TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #525: Missing Trump Created a New Reality with Tom Luongo

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

Marty sits down with Tom Luongo to go over the consequences of the failed attempt on Donald Trump's life. Tom on Twitter: https://x.com/TFL1728 Tom's website: https://tomluongo.me/ 0:00 - Intro 1:12 -... PayPal Mafia 9:31 - River & Unchained 10:46 - The assassination attempt fractured the timeline 14:39 - Everyone knew 26:35 - Gradually, Then Suddenly & Zaprite 28:12 - Divine intervention 32:43 - Working with consequences 35:33 - What happens next and will they try again? 47:21 - Jamie Dimon and economic plans 53:27 - Open source and AI 57:30 - Perspective of decades 1:01:18 - UK and France 1:05:52 - Jab justice and Trump’s cabinet 1:15:42 - Trump and bitcoin 1:21:14 - They came at the king and they missed Shoutout to our sponsors: River https://river.com/tftc Unchained https://unchained.com/concierge/ Zaprite https://zaprite.com/tftc Gradually, Then Suddenly https://thesaifhouse.com/gradually TFTC Merch is Available Shop Now: https://merch.tftc.io Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://tftc.io/podcasts/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you took your shot at the king and you missed and now you don't even have plausible fucking deniability that you didn't do it we know you did it we can see you did it we can see that you know that we can see you did it it's it's over so now is when they get really dangerous sadly because now they got nothing left to lose this rip of tftc was brought to you by river it's the best place to buy bitcoin go to river.com tftc and enjoy this episode you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free if you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting
Starting point is 00:00:53 like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean that's part of the bull case for bitcoin if you're not paying attention you probably should be yeah is this a low energy podcast that you go on is that is that well you're yeah it's not that you're it's not low energy but i i you know you just you tend to match the energy of the person that you're talking with right i mean you know so you get a lower energy version of me because you because you you know are project common and uh rationality as opposed to you know allowing me to like go off on you know indulge my own you know endocrine system that's just this is a
Starting point is 00:01:40 different thing so it is i don't know if i'm gonna be that calm today because i don't know what is rational what is up what is down it's been a week and i mean i hit you up i think on monday yeah uh after the assassination because i think a lot of what's going on between the last time we've spoken now is really an acceleration of a lot of the themes you've been talking about obviously the failed assassination attempt um and then the aftermath of that which is it seems like trump's gonna win in the landslide he's picked his vp and it seems like there is an intercabal squabble here in the u.s that the tech elite are really taking advantage of in the aftermath of the failed assassination attempt yeah yeah i well that's that's interesting you
Starting point is 00:02:29 know you talk about that because if you want to start with that angle which is the whole J.D. Vance, Vivek, Peter Thiel, what I think my friend Pete Canones calls the PayPal mafia. I'm interested in your take on that because I don't really have a take on that yet. I mean, I kind of do, but it's not one of those things that I've given some thought to it. I've been exposed to the arguments. I chatted with Pete privately for about an hour and a half, one night. And I'm going to have him on my podcast later next week, and then we're going to go over this. right i want to hear some more details on what he you know seems to know about this um you know i've
Starting point is 00:03:07 that's i don't know i'm actually interested in your take on what you think is going on because i think it's interesting you're probably closer to it than i am the i mean to me it just seems like there's been this bubbling movement by the paypal mafia and others loosely associated with them to wrangle control the republican party specifically just kicking out the neocons and the lindsey grahams and mid-romneys of the world and laying the ground for new kids on the block who really want to take america in a different direction and but i'm not so sure that it's not neocon light or maybe even just neocon rebranded with techno with a techno rap in terms of ai surveillance and and AI tech in the battlefield.
Starting point is 00:03:58 Yeah. They do seem more pro-business and more or less willing to play ball with the radical left, if you will. I don't know. I can't tell if it's a good or bad thing or if it's just the continuation of the Uniparty with a different sort of flavor to it moving forward.
Starting point is 00:04:21 it's it's worth it's this it's worth having that skepticism without a doubt i'm not going to argue in that respect at all um it's technically it's in many ways the way i feel about it as well right but we were talking about this in my uh in my community we were chatting about this because people can deal and i don't like it and so in the whole the whole thing started to get out of control and i just kind of stopped it and i just drew cold water on it i said look similar to my argument about the fed and you know in and versus say the ecb or you know davos or whatever you want to call them the globalist this is a fight that's bigger than you me or any of us commenting on it right if you're going to have a fight like this then if this fight's going to happen then you
Starting point is 00:05:12 have to have somebody in your corner who is well powerful enough to actually fight the other side At a certain level, you have to go to war with the dragon. But you'd rather the dragon on your side, this dragon, than not have a dragon at all because you can't fight both these dragons ultimately. And I think that you can make the argument that big tech, Google, Microsoft, that crowd versus little tech, meaning Musk, Teal, the PayPal mafia. well you know in that fight if it's a technology world that you're living in and we're not going back to the 1850s then don't you think we should have somebody in our corner even if we have to
Starting point is 00:05:57 then turn around and deal with them later like first you gotta fight the big fight and then you can fight a smaller fight after that i think i agree with that and and i'm loosely associated with some of those circles in terms of some events i've been to and i feel like i understand the perspective that they're bringing to this administration and the future of america and they do in terms of economics like i think they're way stronger on economics way more willing to unleash american ingenuity and innovation and really let the private sector flourish and they do want to bring back energy abundance and deregulation and lower taxes and from like the defense industry perspective i've heard some of these defense investors talk at some
Starting point is 00:06:51 mini conferences i've been to and they make a very compelling point which is the military industrial complex that's just living off of these government contracts and sucking godly amounts of money away from the 800 billion dollar annual defense budget or simply wasting all that money and the defense tech private industry is basically making the argument we can protect america and do it for a tenth of the cost potentially even less and that is something from uh the fiscal conservative side of my my mind makes a lot of sense to me is and if you're giving those two options i'm like yeah the the second option seems way better yeah that's you know i i i can live with that as well like um and uh you know it's this is an information war
Starting point is 00:07:44 we're in right and so you you're not going to go to war without somebody in the information space on your on your side and so you know if they're if that's their plan if that's their their perspective you know we're gonna have to you know distrust but verify and you know i'm okay with being skeptical of them like you know i'm still really skeptical of people like ramaswami and and whatnot but simply because you know i'm always skeptical when somebody comes out of the woodwork and is all of a sudden presented to me as the new as the new savior i don't care who he is he could be you know i mean i mean if if i hadn't didn't already know him right for eight years previous to that i would have felt that way about ron paul right in 2008 i happen to have been
Starting point is 00:08:34 an eight-year veteran of the libertarian you know mises like sector of the world by that point so i was like i was the guy behind the scenes pushing and helping ron become you know one of the people behind the scenes pushing ron forward and trying to push the zeitgeist but you know had that been you know cold no i'd have been like who the fuck is this guy you know what i mean and um So that's the way I feel about melee in Argentina. It's the way I feel about Ramaswamy here in the United States. So, you know, I'm happy for them to be wrong about them. I've had, like, knock-down, drag-out arguments with friends of mine over this.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And I'm like, I'm sorry, but I'm just going to remain skeptical. And we can agree to disagree or, you know, you can sober up. That's fine. It's all good. I'm not going to – I'm done. This conversation is over to me. And I'm happy to be wrong. I don't have to be right about everything. This episode was presented by River. River is the best, most secure place to buy Bitcoin in the United States. Go to river.com slash TFTC, set up an account today. You'll be able to DCA into Bitcoin without paying any fees. You'll be able to give people Bitcoin via River links.
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Starting point is 00:11:09 different timeline yes we do we do it's funny it's like we you know it's funny that everybody's talking about it in those terms it's like this is the kind of thing that you know i i just find it funny marty i'm just going to digress for just a little bit and say you know i've been reading i've been reading this kind of fiction my entire life like i started reading phil dick when i was philip k dick when i was 12 right so the high the whole idea of like multiple timeline fractures and you know that i study quantum mechanics in college and like so you know i understand like eigenstates and like at a very deep level i've been doing this stuff for a long long time so to me this is like old hat right you know this is like this is nothing new i've been
Starting point is 00:11:48 talking about forking timelines like for you know most of my adult life as if it's you know just another plot point i'm gonna in a failed movie script i never published right but now i'm living it and now i'm watching everybody else reflect it back at me right and uh and i think it's well aside from the fact i think it's immensely cool um it's also i'm glad to see that everybody is that so many people are are hip to the idea that yeah this was not the way this was supposed to go. Trump was supposed to be dead. The RNC was supposed to go completely different. And here we are. The guy missed, Trump survived, and it's a different world. But it's a different one than the world they had planned. It's exactly the same world we were in.
Starting point is 00:12:45 That's the weird part about this. We were in this world already. Oh, they're going to kill Trump. oh they missed you mean we don't we don't get we don't have to lose but we already lived with all that dread we already lived with okay so yeah they were going to like run the table on us and they were going to replace trump with nikki haley and then bring hillary out from the grave and they were going to run the two of them that's why i said this six months ago i had the feels um honestly i don't you know i i wrote about it in uh the the february issue of my newsletter i i ran with we ran with the theme of of uh demoralization project you know demoralization nation or you know demoralized nation and that was my the the theme of my entire
Starting point is 00:13:27 lead article it's in the newsletter every month is anywhere from three to four thousand words depending on you know how verbose i happen to be that week uh that and um that's where i came down to as i was writing that article i'm like oh i can see what the big the biggest demoralization campaign is to get rid of both trump and biden and then somehow you know biden is easy you just 25th amendment him out or you know you know you create a thing but how do you get rid of obviously he killed trump um and we've set up a hillary versus haley and i i was taking her back then from the argument that why won't nikki haley drop out of the race when she clearly can't win and why is she staying until super tuesday well it's to collect as many delegates as possible
Starting point is 00:14:09 to have the imprimatur being able to walk into the RNC with no Trump and say, I'm the heir apparent. And she was, of course, the one that they wanted, and everybody had lined up behind because she was the perfect neocon, just like Hillary is the perfect neocon for the Democrats. And that was the plan. And that plan's gone. The plan's, yeah, it's trash.
Starting point is 00:14:31 And the one person, the one prominent figure in all of this who has not tweeted since July 12th is Hillary Clinton. i think that's the biggest hell of the wall do you think this is a an attempted uniparty hit like just the incognito like the neocons and the clintons i think it was everybody i'm gonna be honest you got the tape of victorino in hours beforehand smirking she's saying oh you know trump's not going to be the nominee you know this is my smug face like jeremy fucking clarkson for grace sake and um and i and i was saying previous and again i was saying i said this you know i do a lot of i do i speak into a microphone a lot right uh i know we both do but some of it is not
Starting point is 00:15:16 all public some of it is a lot of it is behind the the paywall and i had been saying to people you know we've been talking about this and the thing kept coming up over and over and over again both public commentary and privately it's like i don't understand that meant just like we don't understand why the debate happened when it did. We don't understand why Trump agreed to it. We don't understand why Biden agreed to it. And it doesn't make any sense until I finally put it all together. And I was actually ashamed that it took me that long to figure it out, which was that they were clearly planning on getting rid of both candidates. And they needed to prove to the world that Biden was a mushroom sporifying the White House and that they were going to kill Trump.
Starting point is 00:15:57 and the there was this eerie calm that i saw from everybody of you know everybody of note i saw from all the european leaders they all had this like they all had this unearned confidence you know in the wake of chevron and jarcosy and the the trump immunity thing and and like the all the supreme court um cases falling away by the wayside and then all these other wins that kept getting rocked racked up around the board and like how are these people acting so goddamn smug that they're still winning i'm like it's clear because everybody knew this was the worst kept secret in dc and brussels as far as i'm concerned like everybody who was anybody fucking knew because they were all acting like they knew now either they knew directly or they just you know they
Starting point is 00:16:45 just knew because it was just oh you know trump's not going to be the nominee don't worry about we've got we've got this and everybody of course acted like that and then we're just like operating in the Gantt chart and moving forward. And that's what I think was going on. And I think that was the big tell. And the fact that capital markets wouldn't move because there was something else going on there too. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:09 I mean, and then you just look at how it was actually enabled to happen, the lapse of competence from the Secret Service, the whole situation just stinks to the high heavens now. it makes you wonder like if they were successful like how successful would the um covering up of that lapse be would it be would they not even care or now are they forced to care i think that that was part of their flowchart and what i mean by that is that um they wanted to kill trump and they wanted
Starting point is 00:17:50 it to be so fucking sloppy and so obvious this was an orgy of incompetence that they knew the autists of the internet would figure out quickly that there were at least three shooters i don't know if you listen to or watch chris martinson's presentation that he put together i'm going to give chris a lot of credit here don't peak oil but i absolutely agree with him on this one just listening i actually my wife was watching it this morning i was just listening to his commentary and then listening to the audio and then listening to the audio and i'm like yeah yeah yeah yeah that tracks that tracks yeah no there were three shooters now i assumed that there were at least two because you never like an operation this important
Starting point is 00:18:33 it's not going to be some 20 year old kid it's not gonna be left to some 20 year old kid i'm sorry i just don't buy it like that's just nonsense like i can buy a grizzled ex of that you know dude you know i can something like that i can buy right rack veteran something on those like it goes crazy fine but some 20 year old like freaking you know crazy you know until zoomer like yeah some crazy zoomer like you know like really like with no muscle tone yeah we can barely like lift and they are give me a freaking break so um yeah no i just don't buy it so i think that you know to finish that that thought i think it was part of their flow chart it was going to be so obvious that they killed trump so obvious that they were expecting us to lose our minds and then
Starting point is 00:19:22 they were going to be able to um clamp down against the violence go for gun control go for the whole nine yards cancel the election whatever they had to do i mean they either had hillary versus haley or they give us a distasteful election in order to keep the imprimatur up that we were still a democratic society and that all these evil republicans and these evil maggot MAGA people who we've been telling you for four years are domestic terrorists are running around looting cities. When's the last time
Starting point is 00:19:48 MAGA Tarts looted a city? Never. But it doesn't matter because, of course, then there would be it would be Charlottesville all over again. Okay. It would be
Starting point is 00:20:04 a bunch of plants on both sides creating a fake tragedy tragedy, fake violence, and then hope for tragedy. And that's their operation. That's their own. They've been doing it for God knows how long now. And, you know, I'm just over it.
Starting point is 00:20:22 And I think we all are. And you took your shot at the king and you missed. And now you don't even have plausible fucking deniability that you didn't do it. We know you did it. We can see you did it. We can see that you know that we can see you did it. It's over. So now is when they get really dangerous, sadly, because now they've got nothing left to lose.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Now, there ain't nothing worse than a person with power and guns who doesn't have anything left to lose. And if you think that, you know, and I don't, it's not just the domestic unit party. I'm talking now specifically, you know, international forces like I would consider Davos slash the old British remnant and the rest of them like their their Venn diagram has been the center of all their different Venn diagrams has been destroy Russia. And now that's off the table. and Zelensky knows it Victor Orban explained it all to
Starting point is 00:21:28 Trump that both sides Victor Orban just came out in a radio interview or yeah it was a radio interview I think just yesterday and he said look I went around I spoke to everybody NATO and Trump and I told Trump
Starting point is 00:21:44 everybody still thinks they can win you know Ukraine thinks they can win the russians think they can win everybody thinks they can win and so that it that's two that's that's two things what that means is two things one that there's a framework for negotiation because both sides still think they can win so therefore there's a potential for negotiation where you know they neither of them get everything they want and we can actually get you know get the war ended but the second thing is that it probably told trump yeah we absolutely need to end this and so orman goes to mar-a-lago on on friday trump is supposed to be
Starting point is 00:22:24 sentenced on sentenced on originally on thursday the 11th orman shows up in mar-a-lago on friday and they try and kill trump on sunday and the rnc is on monday yeah yeah so and then today I mean, people are just hand-waving it as a simple bug in some software, but the CrowdStrike debacle that grounded a bunch of flights, messed up a bunch of banks and telecom companies, I don't think that's a coincidence at all, especially when you dig into the background of CrowdStrike and their connection to the World Economic Forum in Davos
Starting point is 00:23:07 and their intent to push digital ID. And that makes me wonder, was that part of the success plan, like kill Trump, have all this chaos, and then throw this on top of it? Okay, Marty, let's take it one step further. I pointed out earlier, I just did a show with my friends Crypto Rich and Alex Cranor, and I pointed it out earlier in the day to everybody as well. Oh, by the way, today was options expiration, and it was the highest-valued July OPEX in history. A lot of people had put a lot of money on particular outcomes in the capital markets. And since 10 o'clock yesterday morning, they have been in free fall to get reset to a particular level. Go look at the woodshed, the woodshedding of silver from 31 down to 29.20.
Starting point is 00:24:01 I just checked it while you were talking. um gold the gold closed below 2400 today no 2466 in the cash market okay are you are you fucking kidding me we're we closed two weeks ago at 2499.95 are you fucking kidding me like you know like at the end of the day like clearly markets were reset to a particular level because someone was going to lose a shit ton of fucking money and um that happened on opex today guess what monday morning will look completely different so what do you mean is what i mean by that is that is that what i mean by that is that we saw it's 41 000 on the the the the the dow closes last week at 41 grand it closes this week at uh sorry i'm going to pull it up right now 40 288 287 to
Starting point is 00:24:54 change um close enough to 40 grand that you know not too many people lost lost their ass it's going to go back up to 41 grand next week. This will be a false move down, as Martin Armstrong would put it. It'll be a market move. All of these were market moves against the trend in the same way that we saw, that I expected on the last day of trading on cup Q2 to end the month of June. I said, yeah, they're just holding the markets in amber. Monday morning, the markets are going to explode. And yeah, lo and behold, the freaking bond market moved 13 points that Monday. Excuse me, I have no news. It just moved. It moved because it has been held in place. And when you try and hold markets against the directions they want to go, it's like the
Starting point is 00:25:42 classic example of holding a beach ball below water. And you can only hold it down there for so long. And eventually, you know, the arms get tired and it explodes. And the deeper you push the market against its will the worse the uh you know the the higher the beach ball is going to fly when it comes out of the water it's because it's you're talking about short positioning they had positioned in that case they had positioned oil so short it was like it was they weren't the the speculators were like 95 percent net short it was a historic short position in oil i'm like well that's a clear signal that we've reached the bottom and then I told everybody to go long wheel at like $77 because it's going to 90.
Starting point is 00:26:20 And I was like, it did so in like seven trading days. And it hit a high of like 88.50. It was just a massive short squeeze. And then it held that as well. I mean, it was crazy. Quick break here, freaks. This rip is brought to you by Gradually Then Suddenly, a framework for understanding Bitcoin as money by Parker Lewis.
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Starting point is 00:28:21 the wind and clearly they can't control you know the heat and or you know depending on your you know your ecclesiastical bent the will of god you know and i'm not you know i this if there's an event of my lifetime i will be honest i'm dead serious when i say this that you know makes me question my my renunciation of catholicism as a child it's this i i don't know how to explain this but just don't like trump turns his head while basically while the bullet's in the air or while the guy is squeezing the trigger dude i i got enough you know i got enough other than the universe was like no trump's not going to die because the universe because humanity is not going to wipe itself out that part of the
Starting point is 00:29:17 plan whatever that plan happens to be now i'll admit i'm a man of faith and i definitely consider this um form of divine intervention i mean just when you look at the the videos that have come out of where it would have hit if he didn't turn his head and how it just barely grazed them it's hard not to believe that this was some god putting his finger on the weight on the scale yeah no i you know it's funny i you know i went to a uh conference i spoke at a conference up in Boydminster, Alberta, three hours east of Edmonton, put on by Sean Newman. And I opened up.
Starting point is 00:29:58 I had the opening statement for the day, basically, and a 15-minute speech. And I wrote about, in trying to figure out how to frame that talk, I was working out what to talk about. I said, okay, we're going to talk about the end of the world, because that's what I felt like we were prepping for, right? and i'm like and i remind as i went backwards as i went back in time i went back in time it and i was thinking about what to say i remembered a poem i wrote when i was in as an undergraduate
Starting point is 00:30:28 in college not particularly good poem not one that i was a you know that i would consider you know you know having as i have my poetry is buried deeply on on the on the website you have to go look for it if you want to go find it those are the ones that i'm technically proud of this is not one of them but it was interesting that this one kept coming back to me and there's a line in that poem where it said you know it was just like god put his finger on the empire state building and spun the world and um and the way that it's supposed to be you know a view of the end of of of civilization from a bagel shop in gainesville as the as uh you know communism's falling and all this stuff and and that you know there's this massive collapse of society outside but you know
Starting point is 00:31:10 we're all so blissfully ignorant just you know going about our normal routine who's you know doing the crossword puzzle and who's trying to, you know, and who's being, what waitress is being nicer than the other one in order to try to get a decent tip and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, yeah. And in the end, you know, God took his finger off the Empire State Building. And I didn't really, that's how the poem ends. And I, you know, and I thought about it and I think about where New York is now. God has definitely taken his finger off the Empire State Building because, you know, Wall Street's moving to Miami and New York is rapidly being turned into a museum or worse john carpenter movie right and uh you know there's my 21 year old or 22 year old um
Starting point is 00:31:51 no 21 year old cynical self you know thinking through that and what was funny i said that to people in lloyd minster at the time i was like you know when i wrote that i had nothing but kind of contempt for all these people and when i read it now i don't see anything other than pathos it's a completely different person that watches this now so it's a it's a weird thing just the the arc of you know when you think about it you know how you've gotten to the moment you're in in this life to be standing up on a stage like recount and i wrote and you know and i read the poem out loud and then the speech i'm like damn it's been a weird freaking ride and then here we are you know what three months later and this thing happens and uh wow you know i sometimes
Starting point is 00:32:40 i just left speechless to be honest with you well that might you think it's the best time to be alive or is it uh not the most opportune time to be alive uh i don't know depends on who you are i guess um i've uh i you know i want to say that i've spent my entire life prepping for this moment right but i didn't really right you know i mean we all like have wound ourselves up and these like where we are you know we're all the sum total of every decision that we've ever made in our lives and you know and maturity is when you finally take if you know we can call it that call it that in my case taking trying to take responsibility for every one of those decisions um and you have to if you want to be an adult and you want to be taken seriously
Starting point is 00:33:27 as an adult um but you know we're all here now and then you got to say to yourself well was that part of the plan and then you know whose plan was it was yours well you're barely in control of your own behavior on a day-to-day basis you know like it's just it is what it is like and then you start thinking about like i'm i've said for a long time now that the universe is far more interesting a place than anything i have to say about it and that's my that's my that's my way out you know of of of you know i get to stand on both i get to have my foot on both islands and that's fine because it what i'm trying to do is say look i'm willing to submit to the um to the whatever the universe has you know in store so at the end of the day the best you
Starting point is 00:34:19 can do is comport yourself the best way you can speak truth do the thing try and you know and try and be the best version of yourself you can be every day now do i do i achieve those goals every day oh fuck no like it's not even close i think my spiritual scorecard is not a you know it's it you know it's pretty fucking thin margin but you know whatever you know you do your best And the same thing goes for Donald Trump and the same thing goes for a lot of other people. And this is one of the things that I've always liked about Trump. I've always felt about Trump. I don't know if I liked it about him, but I felt about him, which is that, you know, Trump knew he wasn't a good guy.
Starting point is 00:35:01 Right. He clearly looks back on that guy that I grew up with in New York. I've known about Donald Trump since I'm nine years old, for fuck's sake. Right. But Trump looks back on that guy. like i'm you know yeah you know i got a lot to i got a lot to to to atone for or whatever like you know i'm gonna put i'm gonna stop putting myself first i'm gonna put everybody else first for whatever reason and now heaven help his enemies that gets a good point i mean it seems
Starting point is 00:35:34 like it's pretty obvious the shot they missed they've got nothing left to lose like what is this wounded animal that's being cornered right now do and what is the next three months leading up to the election look like and then if and when he's elected where do we go from here and is there an actual chance to defeat this dragon and get out the other end on better footing there is of course there is like if you believe if you believe that this was the hand of god that like you know spare trump's life then you have to believe that i mean yeah i'm not even speaking from that you know i'm not even speaking from that that position i'm saying that if you believe that and a lot of people are well then you have to believe that we have the opportunity to slay the dragon because
Starting point is 00:36:25 we've been given the opportunity to slay the dragon right so okay okay well then let's take let's seize the opportunity but let's not be stupid you know it's time to play offense not defense and i don't mean go out and you know beat people up in the streets for being for wearing for having purple hair and a nose ring and saying terrible things about trump that's all i'm saying saying in the information space we have to be on offense we have to not at all in any way um give credence to the crazy people on the left who are now working with the intelligence agencies to seed the zeitgeist with mal-missing disinformation about this event. This was clearly, and I've been doing this a long time,
Starting point is 00:37:12 and to me, I've never seen an information space get so polluted so damn quick than I did after that shot missed. Clearly, this was an attempt by multiple agencies that's going to come out. There are at least three shooters as far as I'm concerned now. And this is partly inductive reasoning, partly it's, you know, i may be wrong fine i don't care doesn't matter i know what i saw i know what i've heard i know what i heard on the day when the first time i listened to it i'm like oh there's at least two people um there's two different guns here and i'm losing my hearing but i'm not i haven't lost
Starting point is 00:37:48 it hasn't gone that far and i'm like so it's time for them to prove to us that they're the that they're not crazy they've done nothing to call us crazy about everything for decades sorry you're the crazy people you get to prove to me that donald trump set this thing up with a blood package you show me the squib you show me that you show it to me otherwise fuck off they tried to kill a former president and the presumptive president and plunge the country into civil war and execute a coup against the american people would you answer for that and piss off about everything else we have to go on that offense and we have to bypass the entire narrative structure
Starting point is 00:38:45 that the IC is currently putting in place to pollute the information space and pollute the zeitgeist. No, it's like the Democrats immediately wanted to go for, oh, Joe's a little senile. Who are we going to replace him with? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. How did we saw this three years ago? You knew he's been decompensating for fucking three years.
Starting point is 00:39:08 You knew we've had a junta. an unelected hunt they're running the country the president hasn't been the president for three years that's treason can we have that conversation before we decide on who's going to be next you're trying to shift the overton windows so goddamn far to the in your direction that everybody's a whiplash off this is what we need to do and i think another thing like the nature in which they tried to do it like it another thing that's odd about last saturday is the fact that it was as widely covered by mainstream media as any of his stump speeches have been throughout this campaign and so they obviously wanted a spectacle um they wouldn't they wanted that
Starting point is 00:39:52 plastered and that is truly nefarious to the point of like demonic where they wanted that that trauma plastered on everybody's tv and on social media over and over and over again yeah no i i i brought that up that point i'm glad you brought that up because i got i forgot i i forgot to bring it up earlier um yeah it's a very very important point and i brought it up at every other public appearance i've made in the last week which is oh by the way this was the first trump rally that cnn covered live all fucking year they knew or at least someone at cnn there yeah it's a you're i mean come on what am i what am i 12 you know that i would believe i would believe this fairy tale you know
Starting point is 00:40:53 yeah and that's and it's what's been very positive last week is the reaction for most people particularly people in the center and even leaning more towards the left to have had this oh my god that is even a step too far for me obviously there's been people like destiny out there have been putting out just utter despicable commentary on what happened but and obviously you have all the people who are commenting like i wish the shooter didn't miss But I do think there's a material amount of people in the center and even trending left who saw that. I mean, gosh, even my father-in-law, who's an MSNBC guy,
Starting point is 00:41:39 he didn't go as far to say that that's a step too far, but even he was like, oh, my gosh, this is insane. Yeah, and that's a good thing. Marty, you and I have spoken in a couple of months, But one of the things I was saying leading up to the debate was that I don't wish this on Joe Biden. I have no wish to abuse him in the same way that his wife and family and handlers and, you know, political apparatchiks are abusing him. Because the Biden administration is now nothing more than an organization for elder abuse. But, like I said, what's coming into the campaign, we need a galvanizing moment.
Starting point is 00:42:20 and what better galvanizing moment would there be than for joe biden to stroke out on stage and just explain to everybody just how bad things really were i was expecting them to to juice him up like they did at the state of the union and get his meds wrong and then he finally just you know like collapse under the pressure because he they can get him to whatever state they want for about 15 minutes with the right drugs but 90 minutes is like you're there's no way so they didn't they punted and they went the exact opposite direction which wound up being its own form of memetic collapse right of oh my god biden's decompensating we need to replace him that's okay because we're going to kill trump next week
Starting point is 00:43:07 well if you do that they're going to handle the election trump no we're not we're going to kill trump next week and then we're gonna install nikki haley problem solved and it was like the whole thing was staring you right in the face once you put it all together why the debate before the nominating conventions why this why this why that all these anomalies why this orgy of anomalies and this orgy of incompetence by the secret service and the police department on scene like it's it just, you know, there comes a point where, you know, I'm sorry, but I don't, I choose not to disbelieve. I'm going to roll. And you know, this is D and D I choose to disbelieve the illusion. Oh, look, I rolled it. I rolled a natural 20. I don't even need to roll a natural 20. I just
Starting point is 00:43:51 got to not roll a three. Like, you know, it's dumb. Yeah. And they don't have good poker faces either. I mean, you already mentioned the fact that Hillary has what we did. Then did you see the the picture of lindsey graham and sheldon adelson in the uh in the uh press box and uh they looked completely deflated like um yeah like they know they just screwed the pooch yeah like they know they know trump knows that they were that they were that they were in on this anything like these people are all in serious serious trouble so and uh they don't know what to do now because they even if they kill him now if they kill him they won't have there will be no excuse that they can come up with that justifies them tamping down the domestic
Starting point is 00:44:46 violence that would come their way because when it happens this time oh yeah the whole thing collapses then people start taking pot shots at fbi and fbi secret services from that one everybody everybody becomes the whole law enforcement apparatus is becomes open season to 85 million american gun owners or whatever the hell the number is like that's what's gonna happen and i got news for you everybody in power right now is doing that calculus do i want to get shot for the next attempt well i mean that gets to a good point like do you think they'll do it i don't think they have much choice i don't know i mean my other it's a good it's a really
Starting point is 00:45:42 good question marty what i'll say then is is the following my modus operandi has been that they're going to allow trump to win because the for months was feeling like well the best thing their best play is to let trump win but leave him with such a shit show foreign policy domestically and everything else that he can't actually get anything done they just poison pill the shit out of him on the same way that obama poison pilled him from november to january in 20 between november for 2015, January 2016. Well, you're just going to get a whole year to do this. So that was the NATO summit and like all the –
Starting point is 00:46:21 and that's why all these 10-year bilateral defense agreements between the EU members and NATO members and Ukraine members, they've all been doing it, like all signing individual security guarantees with Ukraine, Poland and Romania and the UK and this one and that one. Well, because they're setting up – they're trying to set up an Article 5 trigger to ensure that the United States comes in like Rambo without a jockstrap and bails their asses out from another war that they pulled. They're fighting against the Russians.
Starting point is 00:46:52 Yeah, and you have Blinken come out today and say that Iran's two weeks away from having a nuclear weapon. Oh, of course. Iran's been two weeks away from a nuclear weapon for the last, you know, I don't know. How old are you? 33. Okay.
Starting point is 00:47:09 I'm 56. They've been saying that since I was 33. Yeah. That's the day I was born. And they, yeah. And it seems like Trump is, my base case is that they just try to leave him with a complete shit show fiscally on the economic side.
Starting point is 00:47:34 They're going to begin to precipitate an economic crisis. And it seems like he's reading that choreography. And I thought, you know, obviously I'm not the biggest fan, but I thought the signal that was sent this week of him seriously considering Jamie Dimon for Treasury Secretary is a signal like, I need a wartime Treasury Secretary. Like, if we're going to go into this, I need a seasoned vet who's been through liquidity crisis,
Starting point is 00:48:01 a banking crisis. And he's sort of arranging his part of the chessboard, thinking that that's what they're going to do well and honestly i i i have a i have a really off-color story that i just told in my other interview about when i saw that um diamond was being considered for treasury secretary because you know what i've been saying about diamond and powell that they're the two leading sovereigntists on wall street to get this shit and thing turned around and that it's their part of the infrastructure the foundation for how we could turn the battleship united states away from you know these evil globalists you've got to start
Starting point is 00:48:38 with getting control of the monetary system to put congress into a fiscal crisis because you can't reform anything until you have a crisis and you force the you can't reform congress in congress you can't get congress to vote against themselves you got to do you have to put external pressure on them well how else do you put external pressure on them except by you know giving the fed chair all the tools he needs to raise interest rates to AIDA, right? Well, in this case, five and a half percent, and then hold them there and let everybody squirm. And now we're staring at a fiscal cliff. We're staring at $1.1 trillion worth of debt servicing every year and everything else. Oh, by the way, folks can't run $1.7 trillion deficits anymore.
Starting point is 00:49:18 So time to defund the NGOs, time to get rid of the time for everybody to get serious about real honest to god reform on the one hand on the other hand you have um you know so that's i think diamond is part of that and diamond has been unbelievably clear about what needs to be done and um when i when i heard that diamond was going to be the uh or that was being you know considered for treasury secretary i called my wife i was actually in the bathroom i was like she's like mike come over here she's like no like that's why i just shouted across the room what was going on all right across the house i'm like like jamie diamond is you know like how good am i until i you know your husband is you know brilliant and and and suiting it and
Starting point is 00:50:06 wise and all of these things i was just you know doing my i was just being being me and you know at least in private and she just she just screams back how were you able to sit down on the toilet with balls that big and i'm like one at a time baby i had to slip them in there one at a time and she's like oh you're hilarious i didn't miss a beat i'm like it's just you know like it's just just great it's like and you know again i'm not like it's just i i say that mostly tongue-in-cheek right but we but i can tell you that of all the things that have been like retweeted at me over the last like five days that has hit my inbox either privately or publicly at least 30 or 40 times and they're all like oh my god dude how did you call that i'm like
Starting point is 00:50:56 because i can read a board and uh i was hilarious and even that and so that tells you diamond was putting his succession plan together at jp morgan earlier in the year right i noted when i heard that that he that all these vps would be moved up into presidency positions and blah blah blah law and the one name one name that wasn't involved that i didn't notice in any public discussion of his succession diamond succession plan was mary erdos mary erdos is one of the vps of you know that what is she vp of of uh i don't i don't remember what division she's in but i remember i had talking to a couple of really prime you know really in the know wall street bets and they're like oh she's the snake in the garden she didn't accompany him to davos this
Starting point is 00:51:46 year or she did accompany him to davos this year because she didn't want him and she was on his army entire time why keep your friends keep your friends close and your enemies closer because erdos was the one that actually managed the epstein account at so erdos she's not part of succession plan to JP Morgan. Really important. These are little teeny things that if you don't, you know, and I wouldn't know this stuff on my own. I get this stuff sent to me. I'm so grateful to have just put myself in a position. Again, we talk about the position you put yourself in by doing this work. The decisions you've made previously puts you in a position to get get information that comes to you and you're like oh i can work
Starting point is 00:52:38 with this oh that makes sense and you know you inspire people themselves to do good work and to you know and that's that's what we're here for you know we always wind up talking you and i always wind up talking about this in a certain way certain level which is that you know this is really important that you know so little of this is about you or me or anything else it's about what we're inspired we're hoping to inspire another people by doing what we do and then create a create a room that's smarter than the people who think they're the smartest people in the room manipulating us and moving manipulating reality and and and moving the overton window where they think because they think they control the overton window now we do we control the
Starting point is 00:53:23 overton window and that's the big thing yeah and the the best analog to this is like open source software it's going to out-compete these closed source walled gardens any any day of the week and that's i mean up until three decades ago i think the walled gardens the closed source software or war gaming was the dominant structure of of the day but now that we have open source software and open source lines of communication and sort of hive minds there's no way that they can compete and to your point like they can't come to grips with that and they do not want that to happen at all but it is happening and that's what they think they can they think they can run they can just run their serve their ai servers at you know you know they just run more
Starting point is 00:54:13 ai servers and and do and do and do bad uh relational searches and and and win and it doesn't work that way because databases are dumb and they can be seeded with with bad information I mean, there was somebody who wrote a blog post about OpenAI, ChatGBT, and its limits. And I mean, OpenAI has scraped the entire internet history into using that. And the people creating OpenAI don't recognize that most of the content on the Internet from the time it was launched is written by people who are not that smart. Well, there's not just that. Now, like, if you don't think that the AI wars are not going to devolve down into Philip K. Dick's second variety again and again and again and again and again, And I urge everybody to go sit down and reread Second Bride.
Starting point is 00:55:11 It's a very short, one of Phil's earliest anti-war short stories. You can find it anywhere. You can find it for free online. It's not even hard. And you'll realize that, you know, it's all about the escalatory nature of weaponry and warfare, that, you know, every evolution in war becomes a different, you know, the weapons keep evolving and evolving and evolving,
Starting point is 00:55:34 and eventually you get to the point where you have, you know, robots that are indistinguishable from humans and doing infiltration but the AIs are going to be the same thing now you're going to the next generations of AIs are going to be programmed to seed bad information into the internet to
Starting point is 00:55:50 limit the opportunity to limit the effectiveness of the previous generation AIs and so on and so on and so on and so on and so on eventually it's all going to just collapse under the weight of its own lack of of good information because you know everything is still giggo right it's always giggo garbage in equals garbage out
Starting point is 00:56:12 and if you know how to solve if you that's what the intelligence agencies do they think they have a monopoly on seeding bad information and there's like guys i got news for you like there's the autists on 4chan that are that are just as good if not better now and they understand they're better yeah exactly exactly they understand that they understood a while ago that that's how you win i mean that's how trump got elected first time around right he was a 4chan president exactly exactly yeah exactly no and and uh and and so i'm at that point now or you know yeah okay fine great you think you're gonna win like we can create bad information faster than you can you can process it in the same way that carl rove or dick cheney whoever said you know we're in the
Starting point is 00:57:00 reality creation business i know it's attributed to dick cheney but i really do think it was carl rove that said it originally that we're in the info you know we're in the reality creation business and that you're you'll be as we create reality you'll be forever chasing us to try and figure out what we just created and then we'll be on to the next reality um yeah dude we're the ones creating the reality now yeah and we're ahead of you because we can see you you know i was i was i said to um i said to my partner dexter white the other night we were texting back and forth it was i think it was after trump got shot this this conversation took place probably was and i said you know you know part of the reason why we're so good at this it's not because we're
Starting point is 00:57:43 so freaking good it's because we've been doing this for so long and the cast hasn't changed we just know the cast of characters so well we can predict what they're going to do before they even do it like these people i mean you know what happens when there's a real changing of the garden we're not like we know mitch mcconnell we know feinstein we know this one we know this one we know that one okay how does this all work well what happens when it's the next generation we don't know these people very well we open this conversation with the you know my you know admitted ignorance about the paypal mafia so this is exactly the kind of thing i'm talking about like you know i'm just you know i i'm part of an older generation of of information warriors for
Starting point is 00:58:21 lack of a better term that you know is trading on all of my experience when dealing with these people but there's all the same people so it's going to be a very interesting time and i said there could come a point where you know we might actually have to work really hard at this he's like thank god because it's not just to be bored it means that the board has changed so much that well that's a good thing it's a different board than the one we've been living with our entire lives like i've been dreading this whole i've been dreading this moment in the metaphoric since i'm nine years old dude like since the west side highway fell down and in new york city in 1976 i'm like if we don't have enough money to rebuild the west side highway how the fuck are
Starting point is 00:59:05 we going to do everything else that we want to do like what's there going to be for me when i'm 25 i was sitting in the back of my parents 1976 newport thinking this exact thing on my way to my on my way to my grandparents house as we were doing the holiday thing where we went all around new york city from my father's family in brooklyn and manhattan over to my my mom's family in queens and like i i distinctly remember this i was like nine or eleven years old thinking this and like you know as we were you know taking the brook i can see the i can see the sign to get on the brookner expressway on the way over to like in my head and it's like one of the few like moments i have from that era of my life that i i can call that image up at a moment's notice and um you know
Starting point is 00:59:51 it's it's again shaped who i am and shaped where we're going and what we're doing so yeah so is this is this week a big white pill in your mind i think um preparing for a moment that turned out to go a different direction oof yeah in a way i think i i think so because i think it red-pilled for that to extend the metaphor a lot of people who didn't want to be you know things were just still comfortable enough you know that i i i coined the phrase you know comfortable wolves last year and uh in a moment of frustration with people who are so blackpilled that they just think that you know humanity is on is on is on unsavable and i'm like bullshit people are comfortable when they're comfortable they don't move but the minute
Starting point is 01:00:43 they're not comfortable that's when the fangs come out that's when things that's when real change is possible and i don't see people as sheep i see them as wolves um and i always have and i've always hated that phrase sheeple for example i've always i've like really we're going to condescend and and insult the very people we're trying to you know inspire to like go out and fight you know fight the bad guys and we're going to call them shit and then we're going to motivate them by what abusing them that's a great that's a great motivational technique you fail at your basic andrew carnegie last i checked and as you're saying this i mean it's not really completely related to this but maybe but we haven't even touched on what else has happened between our
Starting point is 01:01:26 last conversation this conversation which is everything that happened in the uk and france with their elections and it seems like they were they were basically setting up this domino effect where all right we're going to get in the radical left in the uk in france and then we'll take care of trump and like when you talk about the global chessboard like it's like oh fuck the domino and this whole effect it just got ripped away from us yeah yeah what i will say about that is the following is and caitlin long you know reached out to me she's like dude we really need to do a podcast i need to understand what's going on in europe and i'm like okay no problem Europe didn't go hard left in France and in the U.K.
Starting point is 01:02:12 They went globalist. It just happened to be that they needed to get rid of the globalists on the right in order to give you fake change on the left. Now, in France, they got an even worse result than they were hoping for because they got Jean-Luc Mélenchon, who's probably more of a sovereigntist than Marine Le Pen is. He just happens to be a sovereigntist from the extreme old left. Okay. What they were hoping for was, you know, that Macron would wind up in the dominant position
Starting point is 01:02:39 to form the government. Right. And he's not. And that's actually maybe the worst possible outcome for France in a variety of different ways. In the UK, it was a foregone conclusion that, you know, the Tories under Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak were purposefully destroying themselves to pave the way for Keir Starmer and Labour to take over in the, you know, the least enthusiastic, you know, major, you know, supermajority in British political history. I mean, you know, Starmer got fewer votes than any, you know, recent, anybody in recent, you know, recent prime minister in politics because the board was a fracture, right? and it had to be done at that moment so they had to reaffirm davos's control over here over britain
Starting point is 01:03:33 they had to reaffirm france's davos's control for france and then they were going to push which they did push ursula von der leyen through again in the eu kill trump and then bring the united states in for the big win uh on how they were going to you know destroy ukraine or destroy russia on behalf of ukraine and um safe to say that that's not part of the plan anymore and they didn't have enough sense to let von der leyen go by the wayside and and let her um they couldn't let go of her as an asset which was dumb because you know when the european court of justice the day before the the vote you know comes out and says oh this woman is a criminal and needs to go to jail effectively like who do you think allowed that to occur what does that tell you because the
Starting point is 01:04:29 european court of justice is a rubber stamp agency for the year for the eurocrats in brussels and for them to come out against von der land the day before her coronation that was a big deal i don't know who's i don't know what knives who you know whose knives got sharpened enough to get that thing through and what that means but i can tell you it's nothing good for her and then she only wins by 41 votes if 20 if how much political capital that she have to expend to get those 20 people to vote for her because it's all took i mean she only won by 41 votes 401 votes were in the majority of 360. what was the uh what was the crime that the european court oh it was about buying 10 um 10 pfizer and moderna shots for every man woman and child in
Starting point is 01:05:25 all of europe and that's so they they forced open the that all of the contract everything unredacted and incomplete has to be you know for all for all the the contract and she was in charge of all that and her husband works for a German company that's a subsidiary of Pfizer. Yeah. Yeah. Not Canada. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:47 She made a lot of money off of the caught shot. Yeah. Which is another thing, like, do we have a path towards justice for that now? I mean, obviously, one of the big clips going around Twitter this week was Trump calling RFK. That was leaked, but I'm happy it was leaked. I think this is an Overton window that needs to be opened up
Starting point is 01:06:08 and widened and the discussion needs to be laid bare i mean yep i don't think they were talking in the context of the gov covid shots particularly but i think it could be lumped into a broader discussion about big pharma its influence and the products that it's putting on the market yeah what i'll say is the following um i was let's just go let's go through the whole thing i was you know i lobbied hard for telsey abber to be his running mate i'm not gonna make any bones about it because clearly i think in hindsight jd vance is an excellent choice from a strategic perspective i was thinking a little probably a little too tactically um and uh and the same thing goes with rfk i noted a while ago that after rfk visited mar-a-lago that he went really hard
Starting point is 01:07:09 left making himself really unappealing to a lot of you know right-wing libertarians fine that's good you know why because that's actually rfk strategically splitting biden's hardcore base this is important because you don't run to the center of biden if you're rfk and you're trying to spoil the race for biden you want to that's spoiling the race for trump so rfk going harder hard almost crazy looney tunes left makes perfect sense strategically for which is to try and undermine biden's hardcore base in all the swing states in order to ensure that trump wins the election
Starting point is 01:08:03 for that rfk is probably going to be attorney general or you know something along those lines i can go after everybody over covet 19 i think that's what's going to happen because trump is weak on the vaccine it is a massive massive black mark on his record in hindsight but he gains all that political capital back if he puts rfk jr in charge of the justice department as attorney general and goes after pfizer the same way that he's going to probably put i would lobby now i think he should put tulsi gabbard in as something like assistant secretary of state um not secretary of state but assistant secretary of state give her a couple of years at the you know in what should have been victoria newland's job overseeing nato overseeing
Starting point is 01:09:06 russia and everything else and if that's too much fine veterans affairs or something along those get her into the get her get her into the administration somewhere where she can get her feet wet prove to everybody that she is who she is and blah blah blah and do good work which is all she really wants anyway and go from there i think that that's a if you're talking about a unity cabinet trump is going to have to pull from democrats who or you know from people who are nominally democrats um who are just trying to do good work and just want to save the country and he can he can really really um you know put a down payment on that argument and what he talked about last night in the speech i think i think that would be this i think that'd be the smart
Starting point is 01:09:53 move for him politically and strategically and those people are you know but and those people are then in a in prominent positions and then we know exactly where we stand and that's fine I mean, personally, I would love for Tulsi to have a position. I think her experience being a veteran and also being anti-war and anti-intervention is a much-needed voice within any administration. Yeah, absolutely. And she's such a – and, you know, she's turned herself into – I said, you know, my most recent article about her,
Starting point is 01:10:29 I said I don't see her as a natural public speaker. She's someone who has really had to work very, very hard. to be on a decent public speaker. But I, you know, dude, I listened to her book. Like, you know, it's, she's, she's, she is who she says she is. And she has always been this person. And, you know, I think she's got a very bright, bright future ahead of her as someone to help, you know, to lead this thing, lead this thing forward.
Starting point is 01:10:57 But Trump's going to need some, some good hardcore Gen X, some good hardcore Gen X badasses, you know, with a chip on their shoulder. in very important positions like we can't just skip over the gen x and go to give everything to the millennials we can't do that you know you have he has to put some hardcore you know some you know hard pipe hitting you know gen xers to quote marcellus wallace from pulp diction which seems to keep coming up everywhere today um to get in there and do some do some hard work and And maybe that's what the PayPal mafia is. That's where people like Teal and Musk and others are going to exert their influence.
Starting point is 01:11:40 But we'll see. We'll see. We don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves. But if we get to November and the summer violence, which I expected, is going to continue. It's not going to get any easier. um you know there's going to be more attempts at cyber fuckery you know bird flu like it's they're going to throw everything at us right between now and november there's going to be an october surprise of some form or another after libor ends in in the in september 30th like there's
Starting point is 01:12:13 going to be dislocations and they're going to try everything imaginable to you know um boomerang any any financial unrest in europe back on the united states and force powell into a very difficult situation um well that was that was another encouraging thing this week if we're we're aligned with your thesis which i think i have very much come around to which is like trump went to powell was like you're good to your term you're good to 2028 well he was he was good i mean powell i mean honestly to be a memory everybody is that once powell's confirmed by the senate there's not much the president can do other than change the the other than revoke the fed's charter like that's that's i mean he's been confirmed by the senate he can't be recalled
Starting point is 01:13:01 but the president can't recall the fed chair um so powell was what would it was trump's public affirmation of Powell when he had been critical of him previously and people kept asking me like well I don't know about Trump and Powell and all like you know Trump says a lot of things let's see what happens when he's actually the nominee yeah like what Trump was doing was telling Powell don't pivot don't give Joe Biden a way out that's Trump's way of saying those things publicly um I don't know about this Powell guy I can't I mean like he could like you know that's the way trump operates and you got to remember that you you know this is how this is how he rolls so it was very good for him to say that along with you know the news about diamond
Starting point is 01:13:52 potentially being treasury secretary and yada yada like you know you brought up a really good point about about having someone who's been through the real wars of how to deal with you know financial crises in as treasury secretary and not one of these you know these academics will freeze and panic like bernanke and yellen or bernanke who froze and yellen who's always been a freaking commie so right but bernanke literally froze like when you read daniel d martino boots book it's it's pretty clear that her picture of bernanke when she was at the fed was that you know he he was out of his depth oh yeah he did not know what was going on that's what um i don't know if you ever read this but i'll send you a link my good friend parker lewis
Starting point is 01:14:35 bitcoiner he wrote um a paper called ender's game and he basically went and dissected the fed minutes that were released 12 years after the fact or maybe 10 years after the fact and just meticulously went through and um basically highlighted everything uh bernacki said from 2005 through 2012 and juxtaposed it to what actually happened he was completely wrong about everything yeah yeah yeah yeah and bernanke was said just bernanke was just terrible he was not capable of handling they it's almost like oh look we put the most unqualified man imaginable in charge of the fed at the exact moment when we're gonna like destroy the the the dollar reserve center like so that's i i know we're coming up on time here but maybe we should
Starting point is 01:15:36 touch on it which is the rumors that i mean that's going back to last saturday and as a bitcoiner thinking about what would happen if the assassination attempt was successful i think bitcoin would have tanked wasn't successful bitcoin's pumping we're at 67 000 right now up 15 this week and now you have rumors circling that next week at the bitcoin conference which trump will be speaking at on saturday afternoon that is he or somebody else is going to make an announcement that bitcoin will be viewed as a strategic treasury asset under his administration um and it is pretty insane to think that we're at this point where this is even being floated and taken seriously um oh god i just want to shout out to one of my patrons here who first
Starting point is 01:16:34 put the idea in my head that this is exactly where where they were headed and that tether in Bitcoin where he was doing some plumbing analysis in the markets about two years ago. He said this to me. He said, he posted up his work and everything on our private server and chat server. And he's like, I think Bitcoin and Tether are being used to undergird the SOFR markets, the repo markets. At this point, they're being used as collateral. And he was the first person to put it in my head. And then I started seeing other people talking about it i i you know threw it out there to see if i can get any you know i threw the chum out there to see if i get any you know bites back right to see if i'm some sharks would you know
Starting point is 01:17:16 chum the water and and uh and here we are and it's become more and more obvious to me that tether was the stable coin that was not executed to remain as the antipode and a liquidity agent for bitcoin to allow for bitcoin price discovery in the trade in in markets and on exchanges that are approved by federal government bitcoin is now a strategic asset the same way that gold is um we need collateral we need hard collateral you need you need opportunity cost based collateral in the system and um bitcoin is a proxy for energy tokenized energy in the same way that oil is tokenized energy right their oil futures as energy so very very important and you know this was this was a big deal under trump in some ways as well that i remember i remember having
Starting point is 01:18:11 long discussions early on in gold ghosts and guns with extra white behind the scenes about how we can see the united states becoming a leader in bitcoin mining and it was we did this we and we spitballed that during the trumpet during the first season of the trump show and uh we were right i think and uh if he announces that that would be hilarious and cool and awesome and all those things and again i don't care about being right marty it's not about this is about me this is like but all this stuff keeps happening because if you can read the board and you understand the people right and you understand the incentives then you can make roughly good you can throw big darts at the board and and you're gonna be near the bullseye you're not gonna be a hundred
Starting point is 01:19:02 percent near the bulls on on target but i don't think i think you're on it i don't think you're near it um maybe and if i am i am like whatever i'll i'm not but i but you know this is the business this business is this business is easy you can be right a thousand times in a row and then you can be wrong catastrophically once and you're done you know i mean that's the that's the tightrope you walk when you're in that position and and so you have to so understanding that you have to you know remind your mind everyone that these are ideas they're hypotheses that you throw out there and then you discuss them and you error check them and you counterbalance them and you try to balance your deductive and inductive reasoning in order to come you know to come to
Starting point is 01:19:45 you know conclusions that you know could be correct and then if they do happen well then you you know you don't the thing is is that yeah every once in a while you you you you say something in private like i i said you know about my me and my wife and in the bathroom earlier like i i you know i don't like i don't care like i you don't the market humbles you every day geopolitics humbles you every freaking day there's so much to learn there's so much that you don't know that we all just have a pretense of knowledge and some of us have a pretense of knowledge in a particular subset of areas that work but when i sit and chat with you about you know we even bring up like the shit you've already brought up in bitcoin tonight i hadn't even thought
Starting point is 01:20:31 about you know i hadn't even considered oh what would trump do in terms of being a strategic asset i mean you said it i'm like of course he would do that and you know what i mean like Like, so, you know, these are always valuable for me as they are as much as anything else. I'm not, you know, I love doing these things because it's the only way I'm learning anything, frankly. And, you know, there are so many smart, connected people who are subject matter experts and things that I'm not, I am not one that I got to learn. And we just got to keep doing that every day. And eventually, you know, we'll get close to some version of something that looks like the truth. and we'll go from there we've got the uh volunteer fire department alarm going off behind me so
Starting point is 01:21:20 yeah i can hear it it should abate uh in a few seconds but it is surreal to see it all come together in this way where the quitter's been talking about this asset as a strategic asset and a part of the geopolitical game theory and it seems and again going back to that's what it earlier this week i was like who do i need to talk to about this trump thing i was like tom uncle tom because it is when you again going back to what we said in the beginning of the episode like this timeline that we've been thrust on is completely different than the one they wanted us on and now it seems like the conditions to bring about the world that i certainly want to see and i think that you want to see have really improved
Starting point is 01:22:11 massively in our favor um due to that horrible thank god that that uh failed assassination attempt but it's horrible that it got to that point but again like you said they came at the king they missed and now the the world is our oyster and i think really taking advantage of this opportunity that we've been given is imperative and we cannot this is the worst time to get complacent and to not get on the offensive and and take the ground that we need no i thank you for saying that this is so very freaking important like we're so used to playing defense that was just like look dude we're the ball we got the ball and we're on the 25 yard line all we gotta do is like you know you know we got first and 10 and you know and the refs are in our
Starting point is 01:22:59 pockets like you know you can hold up in the front like we can do this um i can come up with bad football metaphors all day long where's bill parcells and three cart three three yards in a cloud of dust and we'll like we'll go 25 yards and take 18 minutes to do it you know what i mean and uh how how are we gonna take how can we take 18 minutes off the clock and only go 25 yards and score a touchdown um and uh so you know and um in the early versions of his giants we went back to the 40 yard 40 yard line first and then went forward um but oh god i then watched every one of those freaking games um and bit my nails the entire time but yeah no we're we really do have um a great we have a a great kind of weight has been lifted in some ways like
Starting point is 01:23:49 somebody mentioned earlier that like a near-death experience is one of those things that changes the way you view the world and the way you view yourself and everything else. And some study, I was listening to somebody talk about this and they become liberating.
Starting point is 01:24:04 They don't become, they don't make you scared. They make you liberated. Like, you know, and it's just, it's the hero's journey. It's the Campbellian hero's journey. The hero has to face
Starting point is 01:24:14 their own death before they can confront the villain, like before they can effectively confront their shadow, union shadow in that respect. um it's very important we do that and i think um i think we all started i think we all stared at that the other day and some of us just started right beforehand but yeah no it's important to
Starting point is 01:24:35 mention like trump literally had a near-death experience as an individual but i think america had a near-death experience like the america that used to exist and that we're fighting for would have been completely shot in the head like probably wasn't just that individual They would have metaphorically have executed the myth of America. And I've been saying for a long time that they have to do that. This is about, you know, it's at a big ideal level, right? It's always been the private versus public formation of capital within the banking system.
Starting point is 01:25:20 and then government of the people or by the people, for the people, where individual sovereignty or collectivism. In a sense, our people, you know, America is that one example that stands out that has to fail because this way it validates all of their shitty collectivist ideas. You know, well, look, see, it didn't work. It didn't work. think about you know i was thinking about this last month when i wrote the the newsletter last
Starting point is 01:25:54 month and you know i was talking about aftermath of world war one and world war two and that potentially world war three how gold was used as a means by which to punish germany to pay outsized reparations for world wars one and world war two okay bretton woods did they did the exact same thing they did after World War II, they did after World War I, where they returned the dollar to the pre-war conversion rate, even though the number of dollars in existence did not justify this. Gold should have been $200 an ounce, right? And that's clearly what they want to do to Russia post this environment, hold the price of gold down well below its real rate in order to institute reparations on russia and drain it of all this vitality by forcing reparations
Starting point is 01:26:50 onto ukraine that's what they were going to do they wanted to make russia pay at you know real rates for gold while issuing shitty currency at you know while paying for all the all russia's assets at one at 10 cents on the dollar it's a classic colonialist play and you think about that And you're like, oh, yeah, well, that's, you know, they needed to destroy. So they blame the gold standard both times. This is the point. They blame the gold standard both times as to why everything went bad. When it wasn't the gold standard that was the fucking problem.
Starting point is 01:27:28 It was the price at which they priced. It was the fixing the price of gold to their shitty currency and overvaluing the crappy currency relative to gold. That's what created the problem. They did it on purpose. Churchill knew exactly what he was doing in 1925 and Keynes and company knew exactly what they're doing at Bretton Woods in 1946. And they knew, and they knew exactly what they were intending to do in 2025 or 2026 when they finally defeated Russia on Ukraine. Okay. So they understand what the, what the, what the gig is. And the same thing goes for Bitcoin as it goes for gold. Okay.
Starting point is 01:28:02 you know you keep hard collateral ass collateralizable assets at well below their clearing rate and you know then use that overvaluation to your advantage to steal real assets um and then blame and then and then and at the same time demonize the very thing that you're trying to accumulate because they bought it they got all the fucking gold when they did all this shit and so they metaphorically they want to do the same same thing to the ideas that undergird the constitution of the united states britain has never ever fucking accepted the american revolution they have not accepted the terms of the surrender period they still want their colonies back fuck them they can't have them and everybody needs to have that spirit
Starting point is 01:28:58 in their freaking hearts guiding them forward because they just tried to fucking kill trump fuck you no you don't get my country yeah period i think luckily for us a lot of people have this mentality now they may not be focused on the uk specifically but there's some broad base fire and everybody's belly that they intuitively understand that i just i just i've been studying long enough i know that it's like they're still angry about this it's not and france isn't happy either and all the rest of them that's fine but you know in in particular britain and they need to be and you know and they they need to be um they need to be called out for it like mi6 created and Hillary Clinton created 90% of what the Democrats today
Starting point is 01:29:51 who believe, the 34% of Democrats today that believe that Trump staged his own assassination attempt are the people who were gaslit by Hillary Clinton and Christopher Steele in MI6. Okay, it's that simple. It doesn't have to be a more complicated story than that. MI6 wants Russia destroyed and they're willing to do anything to do that,
Starting point is 01:30:13 to get through that, to make that happen, including help assist the zeitgeist to create a coup against their former colony yeah and install because at the end of the day nikki haley and and hillary clinton that's a british presidency that's a british remnant presidency that's an old neo-conservative british indistinguishable from british foreign policy going back to the milliner group and all that stuff that's that's indistinguishable from cecil rhodes and then the milliner group and churchill came grew out of all that and nothing has changed somehow we wind up with britain's foreign policy well now something massive has changed where they fucking missed it is
Starting point is 01:31:05 and like i didn't i didn't get to get it in earlier but like think about like you just gave the double birds think about what the double bird to this globalist agenda it would be if he put tulsi rfk other centrist based people in positions of power and they just went forward and we're like all right we're dismantling all this fuck you yeah we're not out of the woods yet but you can definitely see the light at the on the horizon you can and you know it's a light that i i i saw plan i saw a path to get us to three years ago and um it was a feeling i feel like i feel i felt like i always whenever i flash back to that moment right after
Starting point is 01:31:59 Powell raised the reverse repo rate five basis points and I started to look at what happened and I said I had that moment like Inspector Finch at the end of V for Vendetta and he goes like through the whole story and he goes I don't know it was just a feeling
Starting point is 01:32:13 that's exactly the way I feel like every time I think about that moment I was like that's exactly the image that comes into my head and I'm like oh there's no fucking way that I'm right about this like there's no way I'm right about this like fuck off with that you're just insane like i said that to myself and i said that myself for literally a year and a half i'm like y'all need to ever check me on this i'm i have to be nuts and here we are today
Starting point is 01:32:40 getting less nuts by the day out of that uh marty i'm exhausted to be honest with you um i'm gonna have to run dude so yeah um i do as well my uh the boys just hopped out of the shower after coming back from the beach so i should go be a good dad yeah it's been it's been a lovely chat and i'm really glad you reached out to me and i wouldn't have missed this for the world um as always uh but i am i've been talking to a microphone now literally straight for five hours and i've got to go i need a cigar go have a cigar enjoy your weekend and i'm sure we'll do it again at some point soon absolutely we will and uh you know one of these days i should probably have you on my show just like this to extend the offer i don't know if you do do you do you do guest appearances
Starting point is 01:33:21 I would love to I would be honored love to is an understatement I will just send a thing and we'll schedule something for next month I can't wait okay peace and love freaks

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