TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #579: Bitcoin 101, Chinese AI and Poisonous Modern Life with Matt McCusker

Episode Date: February 3, 2025

Marty sits down to orange pill Matt McCusker. Matt on Twitter: https://x.com/mattwritesbooks Matt's website: https://mattmccusker.com/ 0:00 - Intro 0:36- First steps to understanding bitcoin 12:33 - Fix the money, fix the world 21:13 - Fold & Bitkey 23:08 - Mining and quantum computers 30:10 - AI and China 35:31 - Unchained 36:32 - What bitcoin does to finance 41:46 - Blockchain scams and warped reality 47:10 - V4V 51:05 - Gambling and free will 56:36 - How comedy helps a messed up world 1:03:19 - Modern media and phones 1:07:19 - School, nicotine and writing 1:12:47 - The book Marty would write 1:18:25 - Fiat food, raw milk and MAHA 1:31:36 - Poison everywhere, p*rn is the worst 1:44:21 - Wrap up Shoutout to our sponsors: Fold https://foldapp.com/marty/ Bitkey https://bitkey.world/ Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/

you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free if you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean And that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Curious to learn about it. Yeah, I am.

It's like alien technology to me. Every time I hear about it, I'm like, glad it's doing well. I don't know how. I don't know what to do about that, but I'm really happy about that. Yeah, the, I guess, all right, if you're curious to learn about it, the first question is like, how do you understand Bitcoin? Like, how would you describe it, your understanding of it? I don't understand it.

It's just a thing I see, and I'm like, oh, shit, it's up. it's up it just goes up then it crashes i'm like of course it's gonna crash and it goes up i'm like of course it was going up it can't stop it's fucking i don't know anything about it do you feel like a stock uh money uh do you understand how it works or you mean like stocks well like that's like i understand stocks i don't understand bitcoin i'm like so to put it this way it's like stocks i understand like the stocks that pay you dividends and you can buy those and they'll give you dividends back bitcoins like you buy it and hold it do you just like sell off a little bit like i don't understand how it like like generates cash it doesn't generate cash yeah that's right

there's 21 million bitcoin it is what uh it's called like a digital bearer assets it's like cash it's like digital cash it's like dollar bills on the internet yeah the whole idea is that it's a it's a monetary system like a new money that ultimately will replace fiat currencies like the dollar the euro the yen and so the idea is that there's only ever going to be 21 million and if you accumulate bitcoin use it as a savings vehicle the thesis is that more people are going to recognize that it is a better monetary good compared to the dollar the end the euro you're going to adopt it so what's non-fiat about that's what i don't understand like why how is it not fiat so fiat the term fiat really means by decree um and so when you're talking about the

dollar the euro the yen it is literally decreed by the central banks and governments we're like this is the money here's how it works we're going to decree how many units exist at any given point in time with the interest rate associated with how banks trade it um it's fiat by decree whereas bitcoin it's a decentralized system and you don't have the ability like once satoshi launched it and basically set the parameters and the rules there's nothing anybody can decree to change that gotcha so you're forced and the other part of the decree is uh you're forced to use it like us dollar you have to pay taxes and yeah you're not allowed you're not supposed to use other monetary goods to pay taxes and other stuff and the idea of bitcoin is that it launched and it's

completely external to these fiat systems and there's nothing that the governments or central banks can do to stop it so anybody's free to acquire it hold it whatever it may be gotcha and it yeah so so can they tax it like can you get taxed on bitcoin yeah you do now so you get capital gains taxes viewed as a commodity um and so if you buy let's say if you buy it if you bought one bitcoin at a hundred dollars it went up to a thousand you sold it there you've got a cap gains tax on the gains that's 900 so if you don't sell it you don't get taxed no cool and there's people pushing to basically eliminate the cap gains tax on bitcoin or make it de minimis where you can spend two hundred dollars worth of bitcoin not to worry about the taxes yes that makes sense why

why did he only issue 21 million in total i don't think anybody knows why 21 million exactly um satoshi's written about it on forums he was like i just came to this number i think the more important thing is that it's scarce because that's the problem with these fiat currencies they just print and dilute the value of each individual unit and satoshi he made explicit sort of proclamations when he launched bitcoin and when he was writing about it like this is i'm launching the system to directly compete with the fiat system because central banks governments and commercial banks have proven time and time again that if they have the ability to pull the levers to manipulate the money they will and that comes at the severe detriment to the common man and so

what society needs is a money that can't be manipulated and here's bitcoin it's kind of tight yeah so what happens in the future say it all works out and then like there's 21 million bitcoins and they're they're all bought up and then there's people who have like no bitcoins do they become like serfs no digital currency age or like what happens to them no i mean eventually like if it gets to that point and bitcoin is the money people will work for bitcoin people will acquire it oh it was spread around yeah and the idea too is like even if you don't adopt bitcoin you're going to benefit because it sort of forces better decisions from an investment perspective a capital allocation like i think a lot of the problems that exist today is because you can just print money and

throw it at a bunch of yeah so you look like one of my favorite examples is the university system i think affecting for the they're a million dollar it's like a million bucks to go to school why is that because the government told the millennials and now gen z like if you want to go to college we will give you a loan like you no questions asked we're going to give you a loan how are those loans produced they literally print the money yeah and then the colleges say oh they're going to give all these students loans and they're going to print the money to do it so we can just raise our prices because it doesn't matter how high they go yeah dude i i went and got my master's a few years ago and i was kind of sick over the price it was like once i was in there i was like

Dude, we're watching TED Talks. There's like 18 of us in the basement watching TED Talks. This is 60 Gs. I was like, I don't know about that. I know somebody from back home there went to Bonner and got into Villanova, but they're like fighting for a scholarship because they don't want to pay 90 grand a year to get a four-year degree. Yeah. It's not viable.

And then the product's shitty, too, because the university was like, the government's going to print the money. we can raise our prices and the outcome of the education we provide really doesn't matter. Like the money's going to come anyway. And so we can just have kids in a basement watching Ted talks and that's a document and Netflix documentaries. We've watched like Netflix. I'm like,

dude, I have, I've seen this before. I've watched this in my house. It's 12 bucks. Like I have the monthly membership. Yeah. But yeah,

I mean, I'm, I think it's cool, man. I hope it works out. It seems like a good thing, but what if, what if like some of like governing bodies done to kind of like curtail the

spread of it or kind of like did they have they ever like sabotage like why did it crash out of nowhere um it's crashed it's it like goes through these volatile run up crash run up but it's always going up into the right yeah the government i mean particularly under biden directly attacked the uh the industry particularly at the banking layer so i'm not sure if you've heard of operation choke point and operation choke point 2.0 but elizabeth warren the fdic and the Treasury Department during the Biden administration essentially attacked the banks that were banking companies in the industry. So one that went down was Silvergate, and this was around the FTX stuff.

But Silvergate knew that they were in a risky industry with their counterparts being crypto businesses, and they basically built their balance sheet in a way where they would make it so no matter what happened, and they'd always be able to get dollars back to their depositors. And during the FTX stuff, people were obviously running on the bank, like saying, Silvergate's FTX's bank, we need to get our cash. And since Silvergate set it up a certain way,

they were able to get cash back to everybody. But despite that, Elizabeth Warren, the FDIC, and the Treasury did not like the industry because it directly competes with the dollar. And so they just took the bank out. And then there was another bank signature. They did something similar. And then Silicon Valley Bank came after that. But I think that was a knock-on effect of Silvergate and Signature going down.

Gotcha. And there's other things. They've arrested developers who've written open source code to let people use Bitcoin in a self-sovereign way. So there's cases that are going on right now, particularly developers, that make it easier for people to use Bitcoin privately. So there have been attacks. Yeah, because that was one thing. I tried to buy it a while ago and it was like, I had to put like a picture of my driver's license and I was just like,

like weirded out. Like, dude, where the fuck is this going? Yeah. That's the, uh, that's an unfortunate,

um, if you're running like a regulated exchange, just due to like KYC AML laws, like you have to check that box and it's unfortunate. And that's, that's another thing that like Bitcoin's trying to fix in a sort of indirect way is, um,

all this data collection that whether it's when you sign up for exchange you have to give your social and your driver's license or simply like um buying shit on the internet having to put your credit card in and save it in the browser yeah i didn't mind it like you know if you like if you know what it is it's like just like sign up for a bank account so i was like whatever but i remember thinking like dude where is this like some weird like place somewhere across the country across the globe just like sweet we got his shit now fuck this guy we got this i mean that because all these companies are forced to collect that data and that's like been one thing in the industry that's not good uh is they don't secure that data correctly that's not just um bitcoin and

crypto exchanges this is true for banks and other yeah um entities that are forced to collect that data but like people in the dark web literally target these data repositories with all this information and then use it to basically steal people's identities or what's really beginning to happen in the world of bitcoin which is unfortunate is they figure out where they live can see that they've been buying bitcoin and bitcoin if you're able to successfully get somebody to send it from their wallet to your wallet it's hard to recover so it creates this like perverse incentive for someone can just snag your bitcoin uh it's hard but it can be done yeah i mean they could come put a gun to your head say move the bitcoin to this wall oh okay oh i see

were saying that's why they need your physical location that would suck yeah yeah damn yeah but it's it's most people are gonna lose their bitcoin by fucking up securing it um yeah yeah that'd be kind of fucking nuts but yeah so do you so what about like um cash app and venmo and stuff if you have bitcoin in there is that like a good place for it yeah cash app's good um venmo yeah i would say any exchange that lets you actually take possession of the bitcoin is good in my book when you say possession like you put it on a hard drive yeah

how do you get it off of sorry I'm just hammering you every time I talk to people about this they go I have no idea how it works either no does Venmo let you

take it off Venmo and put it on a hard drive yeah oh that's cool yeah and so when you take it off of Venmo and put it in a wallet

that you control that can be on a hard drive or whatever you essentially create what's akin to like a username or not a username

password you create a private key which is basically a key that only you have gives you access to your bitcoin then it's associated with addresses where you can send that bitcoin to then you use that key to move it from those addresses so you set up a public address associated with a private key outside of cash app and then you take one of those addresses put it in cash app and say put send the bitcoin here and then it goes there and then you control it got you so but the whole point of it is just to buy and hold it and just kind of let it go up and up no no i mean uh it's the best uh place to store your value

to save your money but also there's no i mean i spend bitcoin we accept bitcoin for ad money here so nice people do use a transaction we have got contractors across the world instead of wiring the money it's just much easier for them to send me a bitcoin address and have it settle in 10 minutes or instantly that's pretty cool yeah um no the whole idea is like really we have it out here fix the money fix the world a lot of the world's problems i truly believe stem from the fact that we fucked up the money you've had aristotle socrates the founding fathers it's in the bible you get these warnings throughout history don't fuck up the money because it fucks up society yeah and we're at a point today in 2025 where we've really fucked up the money

globally beyond yeah dude so especially when they're like you know we're in national debt is what like 37 trillion 37 trillion dollars yeah how does i don't understand how that is like acceptable at all to be like well look we're gonna we're still in control of everything it's like dude well 37 trillion dollars in debt in debt it's never getting paid back it's literally impossible yeah but isn't that nobody ever gets in trouble for that it's like a massive like you know bernie made off scam people blah blah blah goes to jail if the governing body owes who china who do they even owe that money to china owns a lot of the treasuries yeah now the fed owns a lot of the treasuries so it's sort of like so inner dealing there um so america's in debt to china and also

japan federal research european countries yeah um that's i mean 37 trillion debt what is that debt treasury bonds when you issue a treasury bond you say this is uh this is a debt instrument we're gonna basically offer it to the market you give us cash up front and then we'll give you the bond and it has a interest rate associated yeah and we'll try to pay you back that interest rate depending on where the bond's trading um but we've printed so much it's mathematically impossible to ever pay back and i mean that's the problem move that's why bitcoin that's why so the move is at that level they've really got two options which is they can hold their hand up and say look at this this is 37 trillion dollars in debt if we're being honest with each other

we're not going to be able to pay this back so we just got to have a debt jubilee and reset and sorry bondholders we're not gonna be able to pay you back that's politically untenable yeah particularly because the banking system it's politically untenable because china japan everybody's like what the fuck you said you're going to pay us back yeah the other problem is that the banking system a lot of what they hold in reserves are treasuries and so if you're the government was to say oh we're not paying any of this back the banking system would collapse overnight so that's the one option untenable not going to happen the other option is you just print the money to pay the debt back but the consequence of that is inflation and the

debasement of the currency yeah then it wouldn't even matter and then the third option is you have this other monetary system that you cannot manipulate that people just slowly adopt and transition over to which is bitcoin damn that's a pretty it's a pretty feasible case yeah it's happening yeah yeah i think so too man i do think it doesn't make sense you know and it's like we don't carry around giant bronze coin like satchels of coins it does seem like it's kind of like an out-of-date out-of-date model especially if it's like france france has everyone has their own weird money but people get bugged out because always like you're trying to set up the one world government it's like i think it's coming i i really do like i think not like we'll have

countries and stuff but there will be maybe like a centralized super government or you know what do you think about that do you think it will actually be totally decentralized or it'll be yeah i think we go back to like a completely a more decentralized distributed world um And I think Bitcoin will play a part in that. And I think we're already beginning to see it. It's hard to perceive it as it's happening. But again, we're talking about COVID before we hit record. Like just here in the United States, if you look at the sort of competition between states who are acting autonomously.

Texas, part of the reason I'm here. Florida, Wyoming, many other states saying, hey, we're open for business down here. Like we're going to do our own thing. i know the federal government wants to shut down we're not going to do that like that that is a signal that um here in the united states at least states asserting their autonomy is a push towards that that uh direction towards more distributed sort of uh politic if you will and i think just naturally what we're seeing today with all this debt with all the centralized i think it's collapsing in themselves you can't centrally plan anything and history has shown

If you try to, ultimately it will collapse in and of itself. And I think we're beginning to see that process play out on a global scale as well. Like the WEF, they were Davos last week, and everybody's calling bullshit on what they've been trying to do. Yeah, well, I wonder though, because then if, so if they, okay, so there's $37 trillion of debt. They're like, all right, we can kind of slowly phase out money and go over to Bitcoin.

Doesn't that shoe drop somehow at some point eventually though, where it's like, yeah, fuck these fucking bonds, dude. We're done with this bullshit. Yeah, and that's something they're acutely aware of and are trying to, I think, I imagine they're trying to navigate delicately because that is, and it's happened throughout history, there's this idea of a speculative attack where when you notice that a currency particularly is weak and on the verge of potential failure, you can see a path over a decade or two that it's going to fail. you take out a bunch of debt in that currency and then buy um a harder money like gold or or bitcoin or something like that and that's starting to play out um i got you you take a giant loan you're like fuck this money's not gonna be basically real yeah it's actually it's funny sam hyde uh he's got a famous two-minute clip from like 10 years ago where he explained that

like when he first got into bitcoin that's what he did he did it on an individual level he ran up like 20 grand in credit card debt bought bitcoin and it was just like and then the collections called he was like i'll pay you 11 a month and they were like all right we'll take it and the bitcoin went up that's so kind of funny bitcoin went on it was like 10 years ago so he's damn pretty no yeah he's probably doing pretty well but that i think that that's at the individual level like eventually that'll happen at um at a bigger level state level country level whatever yeah trump's pretty pro bitcoin that's what i keep hearing he's kind of pro bitcoin yeah it's uh it's a weird time in the world right now like because the other thing too is um u.s dollars

reserve currency of the world and we've weaponized it um pretty aggressively last two decades first like the 08 bailouts basically said we're gonna print all this money save save the banks and that fucked over a lot of people um and then russia ukraine specifically when we froze russia's treasury assets that was like a big shot across the bow to russia china iran india all those countries the middle east that um you may think you actually own own these assets but we can literally hit a button and stop you from from accessing them that makes oh so they're buying into bonds basically to like invest as a country yeah you can just be like using it as a balance sheet asset yeah okay and then we hit a button we're like actually the 300 billion of u.s

treasuries you actually can't can't access and that's the other beauty of bitcoin is since it's a decentralized system nobody can stop you from using your money if you secure it properly dude do you think the so say like okay so bitcoin takes over it starts becoming like a mainstream currency do you think somebody would be like i'm gonna start a new like a you know 2.0 yeah like bitcoin and then you have these competing it's already happened centralized i mean they obviously have like ethereum and stuff but it's like how does i guess it just works the same way they get ones get picked up other ones just kind of fall by the wayside yeah and i don't think people are gonna try they have tried for 13 years now i think was when the first bitcoin competitor launched in

cryptocurrency space and there what you'll find is like bitcoin has almost an immaculate conception where i don't think it could be replicated where if anybody were to launch a bitcoin killer in the future uh it's fucked from the get-go because somebody's got to launch it all eyes are on the space and so it doesn't have this like emergent natural adoption that bitcoin had the economy early days when nobody knew what it was or didn't care about it um and it's the launching of a bitcoin killer would be corrupted from the inception in my opinion because um you can't replicate the sort of natural emergent properties of bitcoin's early days yeah that makes sense you'd have too many kind of big players like manipulating and sup freaks this is now you

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And that's a very secure and powerful network. And to think that somebody could launch something and compete with that, not only out of the gate, over the course of decades is uh somewhat infeasible and yeah that's what my i never understood that either so mining bitcoin is when you dedicate computer power to securing the network yeah securing and facilitating transactions oh okay so you just you set up a computer that's just kind of like yeah you set up a a computer that basically has the rules of bitcoin um and And what miners do specifically is they're all in a race to produce a very special number.

At any given point in time, the network has what's called a target, a difficulty target. And if you find a number below that difficulty target, a hash below that difficulty target, you prove that you spent energy because it's computationally hard and it's probabilistic. And so it takes work to find that small hash. And so the computer that finds that hash presents it to the network. It says, hey, you have a hash below the difficulty target. The rest of the miners go,

yep, that's below the difficulty target. You can add a block of transactions to the ledger. And as long as those transactions are valid as determined by the rules of the distributed consensus. This is where people have no fucking clue. Yeah, exactly. So what's a hash? You're just looking for, is that a mistake?

No, it's a cryptographic hash. It's called a hashing function. It's literally a formula function. Okay. F of whatever. So a computer is just doing math like nonstop. It's just injecting randomness into that function and then hoping that the randomness combined with the function

creates a hash below the difficulty target. What's the difficulty target? See, now we're getting into the weeds. This is where I get in trouble trying to explain Bitcoin to people because I get too into the weeds. I get it. So you're just like feeding a bunch of random math problems into the computer.

It's a difficulty target. so part of the beauty of what satoshi designed there was many digital currencies tried before bitcoin that's another thing people don't realize um but one of the breakthroughs with bitcoin with this energy used to produce these hashes one of the problems was it became very easy to find the hashes and so you would essentially produce blocks every minute what satoshi had was called difficulty adjustment which you basically see how much how quickly blocks are coming in uh there's a 10 minute target that the network sets and if blocks are coming in too fast let's say they're coming in eight minutes the network is essentially like all right we're two minutes away from the 10

minute target so there's too much computing power on the network we made we need to make it harder to find the hash so we're going to lower the target to a lower number and that happens every two weeks so the network every two weeks is like how much computing powers come on or off the network if blocks come in at 12 minutes instead of eight minutes it's two minutes above the target and it's like all right there's not enough computing power on the network so we need to make a little easier to mine got you that makes sense we're going to raise the target so there's a predetermined some sort of mathematical obviously really complicated function that is increasing its difficulty and shrinking its difficulty depending on how much how fast blocks

are coming in funny it was just like the math castle remember the math castle from grade school there's a computer game where you're just like we're in a castle and the only way to get out was like solve like 8 times 8 I remember playing this

8 times 8 and you'd be like 64 yeah so it's just a super complex well that's actually it's not that complex it's pretty simple

the math problem yeah I mean solve it dude and get rich you can literally if you wanted to it would take you forever but with the hashing function

you can people have done it by hand what it's just a computer will do it much faster so by the time you did it by hand it presented you could literally

if you wanted to do the hashing function by hand yeah and if you somehow it's infinitesimally uh small chance did produce a hash below the target you could potentially manually like present it to the network oh wow yeah but it's infeasible yeah you wouldn't do it so what do people worry about like quantum computers like people worry about it but um the developers working on bitcoin have solutions of quantum were to become a thing and then the quantum for some reason whatever it pops up in the news cycle first thing people point at is bitcoin but if quantum comes like bitcoin's the last thing we need to worry about they're going to attack the banking infrastructure like https like the internet literally runs on the algorithm that would be cracked by quantum so if quantum

comes we have much bigger problems but even if it does come like bitcoin developers have basically game plan what we would do if quantum came you can create quantum resistant um sort of Kind of makes sense. Yeah. Damn, that's so fucking crazy. Yeah, it's a mindfuck. We're all going to be too dumb for everything pretty soon. I don't think so.

I don't think so. I know, I'm just fucking around. But, I mean, dude, it is, like, if you have to have, like, be having, like, quantum battles on computers, dude, that's, I don't even know what the fuck quantum mechanics is. I know it deals with super small things. It's basically, the way I understand, I'm not a quantum physicist or a physicist at all, but it's just, yeah, you have, a state can exist at two points at the same time. Yeah.

um and if that's true like you can send data uh pretty yeah remember that's uh what the fuck's it called relativity or no yeah i don't know what it's called oh entanglement but yeah it's like i know quantum is for like measure the measurement of teeny the tiniest shit possible yeah somehow they can harness the tiniest shit possible tiny math and then they can make supercomputers that's like literally yeah it's like i'm just like all right it sounds cool let me know when you guys do holograms i'm down for that i'll be cool i'm like i don't want to say i've scheduled quantum i think we're very far like the whole google willow thing that was popping up like a month or two ago if you actually look at it what they did was like they had a quantum computer running

for like a microsecond and sick if you were awesome if you needed something to break bitcoin they could need to run for like days and not only that you have to be able to do computation on top of it which they haven't figured what do they do with the computer for what they just watched porn really quick they didn't even get to the point where they can they literally just got to the point where it's like all right like the the energy can produce like something for a quantum state for a few microseconds and so they they're saying they were able to do that like entanglement thing for i don't know about entanglement now we're getting like that's what i'm saying like someone has someone has to shake these nerds up a little bit what are you guys doing in here man

you're talking you did a computer for a fraction of a second yeah it's like dude that's great billions of dollars it's great for fear mongering they can have chamath palapapatiya go on and be like oh we need to yeah bitcoin's fucked what do you think about the ai i hear people for you i never worry about ai everyone's always freaking out about the ai you love it yeah i use it a lot what what do you like chat gbt stuff or like to use it uh i like claude and i use it we use it like we'll take so we'll take this conversation we'll get a transcript of it uh and then we have we have like a clips channel where we dissect like different parts of the conversation into 10 minute clips and we have uh like a 15 page prompt that we've been building to feed

claude that will then create the script and then i have an ai voice that reads the script and like adds context to parts of the conversation that we have what in the clip itself yeah it's kind of tight yeah that and then um yeah there's just going to be a lot of people fear monger about ai but it's like similar to the luddites and the the red flaggers when the cars came like it's just going to make us more efficient and more productive yeah that's always that's always one everyone's like it's going to take over and be just that it's like i think people picture like i robot scenario where like like robots come and attack us like when they say like ai is going to take over it's like like how what's it what's it going to do yeah oh and i always left left

uh side of the bell curve it just like unplug the computers if ever it gets to that point hit the mother one of us has to be brave and hit the motherboard dude i'm ready to hit the motherboard yeah no i think ai is i mean it's cool i mean there was i mean the uh the ai headlines the last like five days been pretty exciting it seems like what do they have China released an AI

I heard China's got a pretty nasty AI it's a pretty sick AI that so fucked up they're AI smarter than RAI dude it's bullshit

dude that but they like they did like they did something nobody expected they open sourced it which is like

you compare it's like open AI and anthropic the American AI companies all their shit's closed source I know

did they really to who like who did they open source it to the world or yeah you can go and look at the code

and see how it runs and download it on your own computer. But then you can't have, like, Facebook or something in China? No. Yeah, China's very weird. Well, that actually makes sense because they can open source their AI and then keep their internal dwellings kind of, like, closed off for, like, authoritarian purposes. But it does make sense, like, let's just mine all the data we can.

I've been in the Bitcoin mining industry for seven years now, and being in that industry, you naturally find yourself counteracting with a lot of Chinese. Because Chinese are fucking ruthless capitalists. Like, they get shit done. I know. I used to laugh about it on the podcast. I download a Street Fighter on my phone, and I would just get, I used to play every night before bed, and I would just get my ass handed to me.

And I would just see, like, the names. I'm like, bro, these little Chinese kids are tearing my fucking ass up every night. It was, like, my one win I was trying to get for the day. I would just get, like, double flawless. I'm like, dude, I can't compete. And it's funny. The American propaganda is, like, it's this communist dictatorship, which it is. like the ccp exists but it's from working with chinese people like they fucking all they care

about is making money and getting shit done yeah dude they definitely they get well yeah that's i'll be curious to see how that plays out too i literally i don't know anything about anything but i am curious to see if we actually do somehow go to war do like do we have to geopolitically destabilize china in order to i don't think so exist that's um i don't think i think we need to figure out the money thing that's like the big problem right now and that's the money is why we're in this position with china too this is that like in 1971 when we went off the gold standard when nixon was like we're not tethering the dollar the gold anymore that sort of set in motion a series of events that led to the u.s flooding international markets with dollars because they

need to create demand for the dollar to keep the reserve currency and the ramifications of that were you hauled out your manufacturing base and just moved to china and flooded them with cheap with dollars for their cheap labor and that's part of the reason we've ended up in this hyper um volatile situation particularly with china is they have a lot of leverage now because they make all the that we use and that's part of the reason maga has um has sort of come into power now because trump and everybody behind him are like this is a problem we need to fix and um that's sort of what we're dealing with now 50 years later after the gold standard because yeah i do wonder about that man if it's like if you know i'm sure we do like we make stuff here but

not not like the ratio of stuff we make versus imports it's it's sliver yeah so it is weird like how does a country keep kind of rocking and rolling if it's not like pretty if you like break it down to the basic goods it's like what are you producing you need good money yeah and that's like that's the core of the issues we up the money and it's created these damn he's created these negative externalities to force us to basically hollow out a manufacturing base and send it overseas yeah i mean it does make sense if you know if you start if you try to start a company that's just too big it makes sense that it would just kind of at some point unravel because it's like it's just too much yeah yeah yeah i'm i'm optimistic though i think uh i

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Go to unchained.com slash TFTC. So how does it kind of tie into like, where's like Wall Street sit amongst all this? So if Wall Street, if Wall Street's doing great, but meanwhile, the country's tied to a giant, just like black hole of a debt, how does Wall Street kind of keep its place through like a transition if we were to go to Bitcoin?

Would it just switch to like a Bitcoin-based Wall Street? or is it like how do public companies end run? You know what I mean? Yeah, Wall Street, they're not going to be too happy about it because a lot of the money they've made is because of fiat money they've been able to create this hyper-financialized economy that's based on debt, derivatives, all that. And if something like Bitcoin were to take over,

the ability to do that would be significantly restricted because you can't just print money and issue debt to to do all that stuff um but there is a place for for banks maybe not in their current form but you will need institutions to um basically lend money and to facilitate financial contracts and stuff like that but yeah i think it would be severely reined in we'll go from this economy that's hyper financialized and hyper tech focused we're going to get back to like the physical world like building manufacturing and obviously software and finance will still exist but i think they'll be shrunk back down to the size that they should be like wall street before the 80s before the basically productization and

the emergence of collateralized debt obligations and the tranching of all these debt products it it was boring being a banker was not an exciting lucrative thing yeah that makes sense i think we're gonna go back to something like that it's just something simple like i need a loan blah blah yeah yeah that's that's so and then so bitcoin is finite in the amount but it's infinite in terms of how much they can all be worth so that way it's like even if you only have you know if the price of the fixed thing is going up organically yeah your purchasing power of each unit goes up so you can buy more with less yeah like your money yeah your money exactly it's kind of cool actually the way money's supposed to work yeah that's the other thing really we live in this

anomalous time in human history where money's just becoming yeah worth like look at kovat they printed six trillion dollars yeah that's my friend was telling me that my friend does finance and he's actually he's he's not like i wouldn't say he's anti-bitcoin he just he's like i don't understand it doesn't generate cash flow he's like the companies the big blue chip companies pay dividends throughout like the great depression so he's like they'll pretty much always pay you dividends you're buying in his and i you know i think it makes sense it's like you're buying these like whatever they're called emf type things whatever like like a um the fuck's the word for that thing whatever yes something like a collection of stocks i mean yeah etf that's what i'm thinking

of uh electromagnetic fields but the uh yeah he's like you buy these etf things and it's like a little tiny house you're buying instead of paying you rent it's paying you like 40 cents per several hundred dollar share no and there's i mean there's a place i think that um saying i don't get bitcoin doesn't produce a dividend is just trying to equate bitcoin to a stock or compared to a stock where it's completely different yeah there's room for both like um i run a venture fund where we invest in bitcoin companies and some of them pay us dividends on their profits like you're still going to have business formation and cash flows and um income statements and balance sheets and if you're invested in that company and they have a profit and you're going to get a dividend yeah

if it's set up the right way bitcoin's just complete it's a different type of asset gotcha no that makes sense so that that makes sense because otherwise if you have dollars they literally do i think it's like three percent the value is like three percent every year or something more than that yeah i mean that's the official like cpi number the consumer price index which the government it's their inflation tracker that's where it's right around like three percent now but real inflation is probably closer like 12 15 percent that's what sucks man if you keep your money in your bank you're like i'm doing the right thing i got my money in the bank and it's just getting devalued no you're fucked you're sucks you're forced to become a stock picker pick the

mutual fund picture right etf buy the right house like that just to fight off inflation i didn't know that i was like dude if you work hard and save your money one day you'll have a bunch of it and it's like it's getting just gutted while it's sitting in a bank accounts and you have to kick it out somewhere else and pray to god that like that gets more otherwise it just kind of like disintegrates yeah exactly it's kind of shitty this kind of sucks man yeah you don't want to save your money and and um you don't want to save your money in a currency that they can just hit a button and print more of because yeah that's that's the whole idea of bitcoin you save your money in a currency that nobody can hit a button and print more of yeah and the government

could the government somehow aggress it and just do like a hostile takeover and be like enough no i mean they could certainly um try to make it hard for people to access and use bitcoin but that's the extent to which i think they would do it and even then true you just get like the war on drugs like they try to get people to stop smoking pot yeah like to that's the beauty of bitcoin like you literally download a piece of software you have access to the network and so and that's what people are so because i like my friend works uh he was like working in like the advertising company or advertising department of a company and he'd always be like yeah like my bosses are just like forcing me to read about like the blockchain they're stoked on the blockchain

they had like meetings about it like how is this going to affect our company and that is is there any sort of like non-monetary applications of blockchain or does it just relate to money i don't know people say blockchain i'm like yeah no i don't really know what it is many people think there are and they're trying to make it happen but it's like it's like trying to make fetch happen like it's not um what's fetch it says mean girl thing is that what it is make fetch a thing whatever mean girls it's like stop trying to make it happen like i think it's only for money i know what you're saying yeah yeah because like to run a block what is a blockchain this is distributed ledger tracking it and what incentivizes people to actually spin up hardware to buy electricity

and to facilitate the blockchains the token the monetary reward that you get for doing that when it comes to storing um like using the blockchain to store votes or medical records like the incentive like the reward that makes sense doesn't exist so yeah you're essentially everything that people will say oh we need a blockchain for this you're much better served with just a regular database yeah that makes that makes sense i've never ever had it that makes perfect sense i've never had anyone explain to me what the fucking blockchain was yeah so just an incentivized for So I'm going to do a certain thing to keep the network going and you get the little coin as a reward.

You get the Bitcoin as a reward. Pretty simple, actually. Yeah, it's not that complex. It's pretty simple. Yeah, it is. That is part of Bitcoin's beauty, too. It's a very simple system. And people will rag on it because it's so simple.

They're like, oh, we need to do all the smart contracts, all this blockchaining stuff. And it's like, no, you just need to not fuck up the money and make sure that the system's set up in a way where it's very hard to fuck up the money and that's what bitcoin does yeah then yeah because i because it's like i guess you have to just go and then under that just figure out how to provide value and like any other economy yeah just get that's what we get back to and like that's like look at all the trends since we went off the gold standard it's a great site wtf happened in 1971

you look at all the charts of productivity skyrocketing income is flat like yeah fertility rates crashing um families with dual income skyrocketing it's like everybody's being forced to run on this hamster wheel to keep up with inflation because we fucked up the money and it has very perverse negative externalities on all of society yeah that's uh obesity rates up um depression rates up alcoholism that's the despair yeah it's because people are on the hamster wheel because they fucked up the money yeah true i didn't think about that's kind of fucked up actually Yeah, we're getting heavy here. I'm sorry.

No, no, no, dude, that's, yeah, then you throw, like, the internet has been, like, a, so, you know, the internet's added, like, a weird commodification of just, like, reality itself, which is, like, that shit, I bug out on that all the time. Yeah, yeah. I mean, just, like, social media, like, you then turn your life into, like, a weird product and, like, kind of, like, how can I attach the hands to myself and get eyeballs on me? It freaks me. That's, like, you know, it's what I do for a living, but, like.

Yeah, same. It freaks me the fuck out, dude. i'm like this is and then like how does that alter people's behavior too knowing like well if i do this thing and then this my like you know my likeness is recorded and be and like acting a certain way what's like the incentive and like everything there's like a huge incentive to be kind of inflammatory and all this stuff and it's like real it's a real incentive yeah then it starts to like get down into people's like they're not even being recorded then they start like acting the way it's like anyone will do that if you know there's a reward just like the bitcoin thing

there's a reward for doing a certain type of behavior that behavior is going to be just like emulated in mass yeah we i mean we had the hard decision to uh capitulate on youtube and make the cheesy thumbnails because you yeah you have to you have to there's there's software where you can i'm sure you've heard of this where you can kind of test yeah you test five different thumbnails swap them with like an ai it's like yeah dude they got to be bright and eye-catching and you know blah blah well the incentive there is um where it's youtube x uh facebook like you are the product like they're big advertising platforms essentially at the end of the day and the data you feed it and uh creates attention that you can then serve ads under um and yeah that

attention economy creates these where like you go on you or x and the algo is feeding you a bunch of bullshit it's turning into like a tiktok like thing bro x is crazy i was i was holding out everyone's like it's and i'm like it's the same shit it always was and i'm on x i'm like this is fucked up yeah it's crazy you know i had like i had to actively like say i don't want to see this anymore to murder videos yeah please do not show me i don't i thank god didn't get the murder videos i don't know what happened i just i get more like uh like race baiting kind of i'll get like hardcore kind of punch out game stuff i get a lot of that yeah i'll get a good amount of that and then i get a lot of just like you know politicians owning other politicians it's just

like that with like yeah yeah just guys being like here's the fucking deal with this thread yeah you read it you're like oh i have no idea what the fuck's this guy's talking about and there's a there's products coming to market we're integrating bitcoin to sort of fix this incentive problem um i'm not sure if you've heard of podcasting 2.0 i have actually i think it's pretty cool that's uh adam curry yeah yeah the podfather himself i know so how does that work again i've heard of that before so when we send this out particularly the podcast feeds it goes out via rss which is an open content distribution protocol and rss is very simple it's just html with info about the episode the file and in the html what pocket what adam did he basically

inserted this block where you can put a bitcoin address in so when i send it this episode out to rss and all other episodes i have a bitcoin address in my rss feed and you're beginning to see spotify like apps pop up that have bitcoin wallets in them and if people go and top that bitcoin wallet up and then listen to the podcast they can stream bitcoin straight to my wallet like a little tip basically being a little tip yeah and then you can you can stream like a hundred sats there's a hundred million sats into bitcoin so you can send like a a half a penny a minute that you want to listen and i mean the theory is in aggregate if people adopt us widely like you can change from a advertising monetization model to value for value is what adam calls it

listeners can stream you a little bit yeah that makes sense it's kind of it's like you know especially like patreon kind of works that way you find out recently you find out eventually like it's not about like you like there's this whole idea of like scarcity and being like if you do this i'll do this if it's just like hey you know appreciate it people will kind of give you money because they kind of they're like they just like what you're doing yeah you don't need to be like if you do this i will show you you know it's like uh you don't have to like not like manipulate but you don't have to you don't have to do all that shit you used to do like an act now like create like some sort of weird feeling in them like pay me no and i've seen it

with this show too it like creates um a good incentive for high value content because what we'll find like if we have a banger of an episode i'm sure people love this episode they'll send us more bitcoin and that's like a signal like hey produce more of this content and i'll send you more bitcoin and it's like a good yeah it's pretty cool valuable conversation that's what adam calls it is value for value if the listener perceives are getting value they will um reciprocate that monetary form of value bitcoin um yes i'm telling you it's one of those weird true things is they like people like you know they take your content they rip it we get it happen to us all the time we should be like what the fuck and now it's like it just it doesn't matter there's like

completely worthless trying to fight it because it really is the thing that is driving it is people being like i like this and i would just like to yeah show them appreciation yeah that's one way you know there's like other average like now you're seeing too there's like social networks with bitcoin wallets attached to them and advertisers starting like inverses the advertising model where an ad sucks your attention and your time and you get no value out out of it where now with these apps like an advertiser can literally send you bitcoin with an ad attached to it and say like all right i'm sending you a little bit of bitcoin to get this ad in front of you instead of just like having the ad and getting no value you're actually getting a little bit of value i'm

like oh maybe i'll read the ad now because you sent me some oh that makes sense yeah i was like trying to figure out i was like wait what they're still paying okay so you send it to the person like hey if you watch this i'll give you so advertisers can pay for your attention um that's cool idea more fair trade who knows how it'll work out and these things will actually find product market fit and but you can see the beginnings of like experimenting with these new incentive models and bitcoin it's a cool idea because they they need to figure something out with the ads too like for podcasts because it's like dude i i like try to tell them like dude if you were to condense it into like a five second like real quick hey this is what it is

boom people like oh cool rather than like a fuck like the minute long it's just like Are you guys selling dick pills yet? I mean, we've sold some dick pills for sure. I worked at Barstool doing podcast ad sales back in the day. It was like Roman and hers started and him's became big. It was like, ah, you're just pushing dick pills on everybody. Yeah, that's all there is. It really is.

I mean, there's some companies that make vitamin this and this and that, but, yeah, a lot of it is dick pills gambling. Yeah, gambling is big right now. It's completely baked into sports now. It's not even, it used to be a thing, like, you know, like your uncles would be, like, quiet with a notepad, like, plus that. Now it's just, like, on TV. It's, like, bet here.

No, like, before the Eagles game on Sunday, like, the Fox broadcast team had to give their prop bets before the game. Yeah, man. Well, it's also, like, kind of depressing because, you know, at least it is to me because it's, like, because you should think, like, well, you know, everyone's doing it anyway. Like, why hide it? And it's, like, for sure.

Like, I totally agree with that. and then it's like well are human beings like genuinely powerless against the in like you know whatever neural whatever happens neurologically when people are gambling it's like people get i don't really i don't really get a huge kind of kick from gambling i mean i've done it before and it is fun i get why people get like so excited but i don't have that like there's not like a hook for gambling with me if i lose i'm like i'm fucking i hate this but it's like is there a huge swath of the population that is effectively powerless against the whatever state is achieved from gambling in a way that is ultimately like detrimental on society as a whole and it's

like i think so like i mean i think it's pretty clear i think it's pretty clear but it's like you know but if for me that's kind of one of those weird things is there's people like robert sapowski who's that guy from i think stanford who's a neural uh neurologist who he kind of argues that there's no free will in general and that we're all pretty much right and i i typically i kind of i don't like that view you know just for no other reason than i just find it like not like offensive and like shocking like you have agency yeah but i'm kind of like i'm just like i don't know and then it opens up a weird can of worms where it's like you know so if you have like a rapist or a pedophile he was like you just treat them like

a faulty machine it's like like smashing them up in a junkyard you mean or like do you mean like what do you mean by that and like how does that actually you know like what do you what do you we destroyed faulty machines no it's like good and evil exist and gambling like people are susceptible to hedonistic degeneracy and yeah i have to like fight it back i do believe you have the free will i mean plenty of examples of alcoholics that have gotten clean it's true gotten clean it is true people do it people do do it but it's like with you know with alcohol the weird thing is like you're out you're crashing your car with gambling is like you know you're like i'm a little tight right now and you're like i'm gonna get them back there's

not like you know until you like blow the college the college savings the big one until you blow the college savings yeah you know you're just like what the fuck did you do you're like yeah the chiefs are gonna do it the chiefs are gonna have all the money right now they're spending all the ad dollars like uh yeah i think about philly like xfinity live and all the casinos that are by the stadiums now like i don't know if i like this yeah man i mean it's became they mainstreamed it and it was just like and again i was always a big legalize everything guy and i still i still kind of am it's like it's on you dude if someone comes up with a trap that can stare you like that like not not like you know like it sucks for you but it's like we all we do still exist in nature man

and it's like there are predatory aspects you know just reality in general so it's like it is incumbent upon every individual to protect themselves from being preyed upon but some people just can't no and it's completely predictable again this is part of the hamster wheel like people are getting so desperate that like you finance they call it the the risk curve like the for like the more desperate you get the further out in the risk curve you go and i think that's what the the product of legalized gambling and then normalization of it is people like fuck it like i'm just gonna put it on this this parlay prop bet yeah try to make it all back that is funny there is a risk curve there there every one of us has at some point it's

like a one of those like Pareto's distribution like you know like when they take like behavior and mathematical function at some point all of us will under some circumstances like blow a guy in a truck stop it's like at what point do you get there that'd be a cool butterfly effect where a guy is just about to blow a dude in a truck stop but gets the butterfly effect that's like go through his life to like stop himself I think it was actually like a part of that movie yeah I think there was like a was it really it was a timeline where he became like a degenerate really dick sucking drug addict I didn't know that I I there were so many movies I saw when I just like smoked so much weed from the time just like I'm not bragging or whatever it was just high school

it's all I did I just smoked weed constantly so I saw so many movies that are like really well known couldn't tell you what happened I'm pretty sure that was one of like the I don't remember that believe you i there's so many movies they're like you saw that and i was like maybe i think it was the girl who's the girl what yeah yeah she did the girl becomes yeah the oh okay and then he has to kind of like go back and into like dream world like fuck yeah gotta stop myself i forgot about that movie it's a movie's kind of sick the movie was awesome it just seems like an impossible i don't remember how it ended i don't remember it resolving i remember the top spinning and being like fuck leo still trapped in dream world oh dude but yeah i mean yeah that's it is a tricky

thing again i'm i don't you know i'm not saying i'm like qualified to talk about like global solutions but it is weird like how do you organize society in a way that's like maximally beneficial that's like the question is like is like you know should you adapt society for the man or does man have to adapt himself for society and how do you kind of you know how do you organize in a way that is good while also not being like babysitting every like there's like the utopian dream of like you know like we'll just have you know bread and honey for everybody versus like no we we exist in nature and like there's you kind of do on some level have to fend for yourself while also the whole point of society is to kind of buffer us from like the literally horrible terrifying

you know fact that is nature where it is like utterly predatory and like you know what i mean yeah no and that's i think actually i don't think it's that complex that people make it again going back to this idea i think we get into these massive problems because you have sociopathic leaders who come to power and centralize power and say i know the solution i'm going to do these things we're going to fix the world just makes things worse yeah i think i would believe are like free market economics and like i think individuals making decisions with data and information that is very close to their lived experience would produce a better society overall instead of having central planners in dc try to make decisions for everybody

not only in the 50 states but the whole world yeah that makes sense and when they're also obviously beholden to lobbyists people being like dude i need you to do this for me yeah which is like okay that makes sense i get it but it's like yeah i understand how that would eventually not work out for the rest of every pretty much everybody else it would just kick off a domino effect where they're like yeah actually what are you a terrorist stop fucking complaining well i mean you said uh i don't know if i'm equipped to but i've always found comedians and don't i don't want to paint a wide brush at all comedians but i think part of the art form and what makes me a huge fan of comedy is that you guys are able to really get

to the core of shared um sort of problems or lived experiences and articulate it and sort of point out like we all have similar experiences so at least identifying problems or things that are worth talking about that maybe people don't vocalize is that no that makes sense i mean it is uh it is weird to be like all right i have to somehow elicit like a semi-unconscious spasm out of people yeah it's fucking weird man to be like i have this this thing triggered some weird feeling in myself and i'm betting that if i say this in a room full of people it'll like you know invoke some weird subconscious spasm that everyone will be like that's good like fuck i try not to think about it actually at all because it freaks me out it is powerful though it's nuts dude it's

fucking crazy i think particularly post-covid like the comedy world has played a very important part in helping people grapple with all the shit going on in the world and develop the confidence to yeah maybe something is wrong here like i had that feeling too yeah i mean there is something to that man where it's like that was like sigmund freud's big thing that laughter is like the release of psychic tension so it's like you know if you take all these big scary things and you can kind of package them and aim them at that part of your brain that like shuts down and just kind of like produces like a weird good feeling all tech you can like talk about anything people will laugh and it's like you take like the most fucked up stuff but you can like hit you can target somehow

a part of people's brain that just bypasses the amygdala and they're like fucking pedophiles are fucking weird yeah it's kind of nuts it is weird it is kind of crazy did you ever uh uh stumble upon that what was it the uh mind of ideas youtube page they had this like they had these youtube uh videos they're putting out like 20 minutes the one was on mass psychosis academy of ideas academy of ideas yeah i love like i'm on their page i i uh do their patreon i love those guys yeah the they're incredible yeah that's like they had like the two or three part mass psychosis where they basically explained like what was happening with the lockdowns and why everybody was being compliant and then part two is the solution which was you literally make fun of

these people and embarrass them and let everybody else know it's cool to make fun of these people because it erodes their power at the end of the day no that's pretty cool i remember i've seen a lot of their videos and it was funny because i did kind of get it was like you know that guy if you've watched the videos it's very it's very like calm kind of like you know it's just like kind of scholarly tone and his video you could tell the guy like got pissed because his videos became like slightly he had like a bit of edge to his voice like all right what the fuck are we doing everybody trying to make my cool youtube channel the fucking world's going crazy it was kind of that was kind of funny to watch yeah but his solution to having the amygdala shut down and

just um sort of throw yourselves at the whims of the authoritarians was like no we need to start making fun of these people yeah well i mean dude and it was like it is weird because i don't know maybe some people like this but like they it did it does seem to me that like they obviously did co-opped a lot of the comedy stuff like the authoritarian like what we could argue is like the more authoritarian class so like every late night show is kind of like it's like dude i call bear dancing with vaccines they all they all it's like dude if you want to make fun of trump knock yourself out i'm not gonna be like you can't do that but it was like they all did it under the exact same kind of like it's more like they were just like this place of like moral disgust at like

anyone and it was just so like it was just bizarre that like they all did the same they all had the same take and it's like how you know what i mean there's no way unless there's just like the natural pressure of being like i can kind of perceive that if i step out of line it's either that or operation mockingbird yeah but it is bugged out it's just kind of like dude you guys all think the exact same thing like you guys don't have anything else to say about anybody it was just kind of like i don't know no there's even one point where and it's not funny like it sucks nobody watches it i remember my 16th birthday we were a big fan of conan growing up this was before um jay leno sort of

cucked him yeah my 16th birthday we went up from philly to new york to see conan o'brien he maybe was everyone loved him we all watched him naive high schooler but he was hilarious yeah he was edgy and it's completely changed since then yeah what does he even do he's as a podcast now right Yeah, Coco or something like that. Yeah. Dude, I don't know. I think if you want to kind of like, there's only so many networks,

and if you kind of want to do your thing, I'm like, yeah. The networks are dying. Cool that shit down. I was prepping for this. I watched the episode they did with Theo Vaughn a couple months ago. That had like 1.2 million views.

That does more numbers than any singular episode of Colbert or Cheney Fowler. Oh, dude. Well, I think they do it just to pump out clips because it's like nobody's why i like i can't even imagine a world where i'm like staying up in bed with my wife being hold on hold on the colbert is about to come on let's catch this before we fall asleep like nobody does that no they're competing with your phone it's like dude yeah right man and then they're interviewing people making shitty movies that

yeah nobody wants to see anymore it's like yeah yeah wow yeah it feels yeah and if who knows if it's like the natural degradation of the form and just like the internet's just completely torpedoing all of it but your phones is what you can't compete with that man it's like i can if if anything good happens on tv it's going to come up on my phone and i have at the same exact remember like flipping through channels and like oh yeah 61 32 maybe take it up to 95 for a second come back yeah spice and spices 95 you had like comcast in your house your neighbors had direct or your buddy had direct tv you know you're like fuck i don't know what channel anything is yeah exactly but you were like bounced between like all right i know like storage wars is on this i'm

gonna jump back to this thing i was kind of watching now you can just be like boom boom oh that was kind of funny or oh wow i stumbled across a 20 minute video i'm gonna watch this whole thing like it just the like the like the rush you get from your phone tv can't compete with that dude it's like not even it's not even close dude i feel crazy if i'm in a hotel and i'm like that's what i was just about to say like you're like trying to navigate that menu i'm like bro i'm gonna kill myself too this is so boy it's like do you ever read infinite jest no they talk about sorry i don't want to drop it like such a snob have you ever read ij but the central theme of that is it's called it's like an entertainment cartridge where that that was david foster

wallace's big thing he was like dude entertainment's the technology technology's growing in every other sector it's going to grow in tech it's going to grow in entertainment to the point and this is in the 90s he wrote this it's going to become so addictive that we're going to be kind of powerless against it yeah and then dude like you know that he was like he was combating like usa like rambo like one two and three he was like this is i can't get anything done this is so enticing he's an uncle ted accolade the what an uncle ted kaczynski accolade no no no i don't know maybe he'd vibe i mean that was ted's whole thing was like yes he could have vibed with ted as well but he was like bro we're not going to be able to it's going to surpass our ability to contend with you

know like our you know whatever if you want to believe you want to reduce like your willpower down to like you know available magnesium and electricity and water he's like either we're not going to be able to compete with this and it's going to suck us all into it and then he killed himself in like the 90s i think and then you know lo and behold now we have the internet and it's like yeah i think he nailed that one yeah your phone's so addicting it and purposely so and it's fucked up and that's the um especially with young kids now trying to figure out how to make sure they don't grow up like with crane necks because they're looking down yeah i think we're doing an okay job so far but i mean at some point it's just gonna be like

dude well the schools like i'm tour i was like touring schools for my my older my oldest kid and it's like there's just tvs in the class like a giant not a chalkboard a huge fucking screen it is a tv i'm like why do you guys have that they're like well it's like our projector i'm i'm like that's not a fucking projectors were shitty handwriting on a like dimly lit thing that's a screen with like you know like the settings they do in best buy where it's like the brightest colors imaginable yeah you get the blue light it's like why do you need that like take that shit the fuck out of the classroom and they're like well this is just what we use and it's like jesus christ that's one thing i wonder is going to change too like we're still running

on like purely communist austrian style of schooling and particularly in public schools but i don't know going back to like ai like i'm pretty motivated to create like uh an at-home not saying that we're going to homeschool our kids but like ai is getting to the point where you can create like a curriculum like in college i skipped classes and just taught myself everything on cotton cat me i don't think classes are like physical classes um are as necessary as they may have been and one could argue they weren't even necessary i fucking hated school growing up Oh, I fucking hated it, dude. I still hate it.

I go into school. I was talking to my cousin about this, and his daughter will be like, I love my teacher, and he'll be like, I fucking hated my teachers. But, I mean, I think you do need the socialization is good. Getting kids together, letting them socialize is good. But, yeah, I'm on the same page, man. I think school should be like just cut all the stupid bullshit of memorizing. It's like learn stuff, identify, like, all right,

what does this kid seem inclined towards from a young age? and kind of plug and play with the interest give them like the obviously the basics of like math like get them reading math all that stuff and dude it should be like you should go to school it should be like in my opinion the first hour and a half should be like intense physical activity yeah like i the idea that like we're gonna wake you up prematurely and then sit you in a chair and just just spout fucking bullshit at you it's it's literally it infuriates me to think about it should you get there all right you got to get a little early whatever but then it's like wild physical like intense physical activity and then it's like all right let's cool down blah blah blah and now

we're going to like try to like identify interest and do like i think a lot of schools do this now though it's like project-based learning where it's like we're all going to get down on a project we're going to study penguins yeah and it's like how many penguins are there in that picture that way with like kindergarten and stuff now we're doing we're like sneakily kind of doing math now you see why you have to do that and then we can learn about like well this is where these guys learn you know this is how cold it is there and like i love that but like the block style math so it's it's pisses me off dude i fucking hate it so bad i found a somewhat degenerate way to begin teaching my son math ever play the game shut the box oh you're talking about the dice game

yeah yeah i have it so fucking fun that's how he's learning math and counting and that's awesome yeah that's what dude it's like i mean it kind of ties in but that's what i've been doing with writing recently where it's like, I've, one of the things I, you know, I always write, I try to write, I'm trying to write another book right now and all this stuff, but like just getting yourself to sit down and do it every day. And this might, maybe this is like kind of bad, but what I've recently doing is I never, I've never done like nicotine. I never did like the pouches is, you know, I've smoked cigarettes here and there, but like, I never was like, whatever. So I started doing the nicotine. I have lozenges that I only do when I write. So I've essentially addicted

myself to writing via nicotine it's been kind of working lately that's uh i mean i've been woefully addicted to nicotine since i was 15 as you can see here i keep telling everyone like i don't think it's addicting and day by day i'm like i think the world's got a point on this nicotine's good for you i i think so too man it's like they literally can't write caution this may cause cancer because it doesn't it doesn't exactly it's always addictive which it is um but it's like a it's like a what do they call it um nootropic like you get your neuroplasma or whatever they're called yeah the only thing i've heard is that if you are very addicted to it it'll wake you up in the middle of the night because it's like solution to that fucking rub

magnesium cream on your feet sleep what eight hours a night really yeah i take the magnesium you in pills i got this cream that i put on the bottom of my feet what what yeah dude that sounds awesome actually it is it is but going back writing like so that's how i got into this i started writing i wrote a daily newsletter about bitcoin every day for six years damn it's hard like i have not written as much as i used to it's the output but writing is incredible um i love writing just because it helps me get like it helps me better understand what my thoughts actually are when you actually have to sit down and articulate it it's a sad moment when you find like that first when you first put it like this is oh this is the best idea and you lay it down

on paper and look at it like i'm a fucking idiot but that's the thing with writing i really like it's like once i got over like the fear like i guess yeah it was like a fear like self-worth kind of issue where you're like you have all these fantastic dreams of like i'm gonna write this i'm gonna write that then you do it you're like this fucking sucks but then once i was able to be like oh now that i have something i can improve this and then that like for me it was like oh it's so easy all i gotta do is get a like my shitty idea on paper and then just keep passing over and passing over and pass and the next thing you know it's like this is actually pretty good yeah the um what it was the book about right now it's we're still determined i'm writing it with

my friend pedro salinas but it's loosely based on a guy who uh has kind of like him and a girl have like a mystical experience when they're like 10 years old and then she ends up in a nut house and he ends up becoming a psychologist and then he kind of loses his mind and they they like come back together and then it jumps from like the 70s to like now and they kind of are like she comes back to kind of haunt him as he's like trying to live like a normal life that's like the most basic description i can give that's pretty so non-fiction yeah fiction excuse me yeah fiction that's what um that's what we need better fiction too like the uh i've always and i've had a lazy idea but i think it needs to be written um the death of a salesman for the modern age which

actually would dive into a lot of the shit that we've been talking about about the money fucking up like i think yeah yeah there's a book to be written particularly about like finance bros in this era um that'd be pretty cool there's a ton there's a ton of them like dedicated their education their life their careers and then they got there and it was like yeah it's not as great as it was in the 80s or 90s yeah dude drove a lot of people crazy yeah my my friend who was like he's deep into finance and i really like him too because he's like he's like my one of my best friends i know him from psychology but he takes a very like nuts and bolts like easy approach to finance where it's like people should understand what they're getting when they buy investments

like he's like it's incentivized for people to kind of sell you an investment product for the fees when it's not the best one for you and that's like his big thing he's like it's it's so you don't have to do that it's such an unnecessary uh aspect because you're fucking with people's like literally their livelihoods they're the thing they're going to retire on you think about like your parents working their whole lives and someone being like yeah i'm going to clip a bunch of that value just you know and give you some shitty financial product yeah it's it's evil it's so evil dude it is it's a product of money printing right yeah finance got to the point where it's like similar to universities where we don't have to do our job we can just raise our prices like

finance it's like the name of the game is aum assets under management you get that up typically funds will charge anywhere from one to two and a half percent and many people in a fucked up way they really don't care about the product that they're selling at the end of the day yes they want it to be flashy and most don't even understand it that's the thing they don't understand how it works no they're just like they have someone else be like sell this this one make you the most commission and they have like a little spiel obviously yeah dude there was a people who approached my parents and they're like they hit you it's called crash proof retirement I shouldn't name them.

I'd probably get slew me for slander. But it's called like some sort of something like that. But it's insurance-based. And from what I understand, I should say, there are these insurance-based investments where they're essentially just having you pay into this thing and then letting you use your own money eventually that you've saved and then charging you.

They're giving you interest, but then they're matching your interest in a better financial product. So they're like, all right, we'll give you a guaranteed five, six, whatever it is five six percent they take your money then they just invest in better products and make more money and kind of get the difference and then like but you're not allowed to access it and then once 30 years later they're like here's your money didn't we do an awesome job for you and it's just like it's like it was just your money the whole fucking time yeah like you can

dip into it but then you get penalized it's it's ridiculous yeah you take the tax it no i mean this is i guess that's what all banks do really but it's like the way they phrase it for people to be like those other things are bullshit and then they do that with your money i mean we talked about 37 trillion dollars in debt that's not the real debt that's on balance at the federal level it's considered on balance sheet debt when you factor in medicaid and social security which are very similar what you just described it's those two alone are like 191 trillion so altogether it's like 230 trillion dollars almost of debt and oh no so medicaid and social security alone you know 190 trillion and but it's a similar story it's like you give us a piece of

your paycheck we put it into this social security fund and the government's going to invest your money and make sure that you're paid out and it's like they're still taking aren't they still taking social security for people and they know like it's they're not going it's not going to work yeah but i know this it's one of those politically unpalatable third rails you can't touch your approach that's so funny you just have to suck it up and pay your social security no you're never going to see it yeah as my mom's always like you i'm sorry you're not going to see that no it's like i'd have never ever banked on social security i've never felt that was going to happen yeah and that's an important point that the real debt is like 230 trillion dollars

that night and then 37 um damn yeah and that's it's like as a millennial like i think we should like i'm i've advocated for this with politicians like just stand up like i know i'm not going to get it i'll pay it to a certain point i'll pay it till i'm 45 and after that i'm not paying anymore i'm done yeah i don't expect you to pay me like let's just come to an agreement here where draw a line in the sand anybody above the line is going to get paid out until they die anybody below pays until a certain point that makes sense yeah yeah you should be able to opt out of that at a certain point yeah how much is how much they even take for social security like i don't know i don't know what a six percent maybe seven percent whoa really i could be wrong but it's something that's

at least four or five and if you wanted to look at damn so they're that's that's a fucking decent chunk yeah oh wow see i'm like i always whenever i think about taxes i have to like six percent i always have to like imagine one of my paychecks from like back when i had like jobs in like high school or college i was always like social security is nothing because my paychecks were like two hundred dollars yeah so i was like yeah it's like five bucks man who cares i'm like no that's a lot man yeah yeah and there's just there's nothing you can do they just got to take it out then what does the government do with your money i think nothing yeah i would argue like nothing too valuable let's say we need the roads we need the health care we need the university

system and i think my my belief is that we'd be much better off if the government just cut their hands out and let us figure it out yeah just totally private health care and all that stuff yeah um yeah i mean that's the other like the the health care system's completely fucked yeah from seven different ways i mean there's a there's a book here too fiat food it goes into like how when you fuck up the money you fuck up everything there's like these rippling effects so like fiat food gets into when we got ripped off the gold standard in 1971 like to quell social upheaval um because around inflation they basically changed remember the cpi the consumer price index they changed the index they moved the goods around so they took out like a ribeye

replaced with ground beef put like a lot of corn and shitty products in the cpi yeah so their tracker they're tracking uh what are deemed to be lesser substitute goods and those prices don't don't change that much but um they uh manipulated the cpi and then subsidized the corn industry and all this slop that has proliferated over the last 50 years and so they printed money to create all these cheap food goods to make sure the cpi didn't go up but all that shit's unhealthy for us everybody gets fat as fuck gets diabetes and then 50 years later everybody's unhealthy and so health costs are going up whoa and then you subsidize the health care cost and with like the american care act and that fucks up the incentives in that system so you just have these compounding

sort of shit show because we fucked up the money yeah that's kind of bugged out but what i yeah that's insane actually but the thing is is like all right so if you have a purely for-profit model running everything unregulated then it's like well does that happen anyway because they're like well fuck it i can sell but then i guess if people like you reintroduce accountability there's no accountability for any of it that makes sense yeah especially with the government's being like this is what you need to eat remember the food pyramid that was part of the psyop yeah that's dastardly i guess if you have free open information you really can't do that you can't be like oh well i can read the ingredients and you have a bunch of fucking corn oil or so you

know soil and all this all these different like oils and bullshit yeah it's like oh meat's bad for you butter's bad for you milk's bad for you meat grains uh seed oils and all this shit you know what's fucked up i was eating so i like fully i mean i was like for real like lactose intolerant like i was like i i'm in tall i can't have gluten that fucked after when i was 21 that started fucking me up and then uh and then later on like dairy i'd eat dairy and just get congested and it was just like felt horrible and then i in like a kind of a last-ditch effort because all the like substitute milks they saw they're terrible man and i can tolerate like bad tasting kind of healthy food like almond milk oat milk there's fucking the first time you have it it literally

like makes you sad it's repulsive it's so bad like and i i like dude i coconut milk i will say coconut milk is the except coconut milk's actually really good but you know it's whatever it's good but then you put it up against whole milk dude from a cow and it's like it's not it's like not even close and i spent years drinking like the fake milks and then um you know because it's like i have to have something and i for real was like in my head like milk is actually like the effects were right there it'd be like a one-to-one thing i had milk congested cold like symptoms if i had enough and then i i was like a last-ditch effort literally this year tried raw milk and it was i mean dude you're like better i was like you know i would even sink so low as to have vegan

cheese like that's how bad like no one will just eat vegan cheese unless there's a real reason you ever have vegan cheese yeah it's so just dude it's so bad dude it's for real it's gross like it's for real it is gross there's there's like artisanal kind of ease that are like is it is it just like i don't know dude it's like it's like potato starch and it's like you can people can make it artisanally with like nuts where they can take like coconut oil and it's not bad but i would hesitate to even call it like it's more of like a spread if you make like good vegan the big the holy grail for vegan cheese is to make a good meltable and it dude it doesn't it's just like it's crispy and it's so fucking gross and i ate it for years like i was like no i can't have dairy

this is the healthier option and i just dude i would get like the most insane gas from eating this shit and i had to like because you know it's hard not to eat cheese cheese is delicious so i was just like fuck man this is the cheese i have to eat but i was like internally i was like man this sets off like a fucked up chain of events my body every time like hands down when i have vegan cheese my body's like nah man this is not it so i went through all that stuff and then eventually like now you know i'm in texas and there's a farmer's market near my house and i found out i could get raw milk and i was like fuck it man i might as well try it richardson farm or uh what the fuck's the name of them no it was um ash acres yeah dude the local

pastures i mean the access to good raw milk down here is bro unlike anything i i drank it being like maybe so i think my thought was like i heard if you drink raw milk it helps you start to tolerate dairy better in general because like your body it has like whatever the enzymes that break down dairy get taken out if you pasteurize exactly so i'm like you know and i had but so that was like my basic expectation like all right i'll like not be so like if you're out to dinner and they cook it in butter i would get like congested and stuff maybe raw milk will help with that dude i got the first day i had it i poured myself a tall glass of it like all right well here goes first of all i was like a baby on the nipple and then when i started drinking it i

was just like oh my god oh my god and then i like i like that day particularly in particular i had like kind of like weird brain fog that i thought was just from taking like zyrtec i'm like i took allergy medicine i'm like foggy dude i'm not lying within like 30 minutes my brain i was like what the fuck's my brain feel like it's working like it should and i'm like this is kind of weird maybe it's like placebo and now i dude i was feeling like great i started drinking it every day i felt fucking like amazing then i looked into it it's like all the nutrients are bio like super bioavailable yeah it's like it's so good for you that's one of the biggest psyops raw milk as a term is a psyop it's just like how it's just milk it was milk for thousands of years and you

can test it like that's my thing but you can go like get a fucking malaria and it's like not malaria but it's like you can get a fucked up bacterial infection it's like dude you can just like you test a kid for bacterial infect bacterial infections at the doctor you can test a vat of raw milk yeah it's like oh yeah they're not present now just don't let it spoil yeah like that that to me was like because people get freaked out because i have it at my house and i'm like you know you have kids over and i'm like oh i have milk but it's like raw milk and like no no no I give it to my kids. I'm like, they're fine.

Yeah, my boys love it. Yeah. It's a deep rabbit hole. It's the Rothschilds started that. Did they really? Yeah. It's evil. That's evil.

Because once you drink it, because I was even like, man, I feel like a dickhead if I went blind or whatever they try to say. It started in the UK in the early 1900s. One of the Rothschilds made a point like we need to hyper pasteurize all the milk. It was like one of the two sort of issues that he brought up the whole time. Dude, I'm all for making a couple bucks, but if you have to trick people about milk, it's like that's so evil dude yeah well like the food pyramid in general like that i had a similar thing i was in um lactose intolerance i had fucking debilitating eczema for most of my life until

i was 20 i used to get it from you actually get it from gluten all that stuff and it was like more of a recent thing but you had it that shit sucks it was embarrassing like in the winter like it'd be all up my arms my armpits it was like embarrassing like it was very self-conscious about it and then i figured out it was like sugar and carbs and i cut them out for like two years i I drank Gatorade like fucking water back in college. Everyone did. We all had iced tea. It was, you know.

Cut it out two years. I haven't had eczema in like a decade. That's crazy. Yeah. It was just I needed to reset my body from. And it was sugar and carbs. I think fructose corn syrup. Yeah.

I remember when he thought like the green tea Arizonas were like healthy. He still Gatorade. That's ginseng, bro. Yeah. But yeah, I've done something recently. i've i've learned you like just from like messing around stuff because my a1c was high my dad has type 2 diabetes so i'm like i you know i don't feel like i don't want to have to have diabetes and all that you know that like raises all these other mortality markers or whatever

just like your a1c being like four point like you know 0.5 higher increases heart attack whatever just not good for you so i started doing like you know a keto thing that i don't do like strictly keto but it's like i've reduced the amount of carbohydrates i eat daily for since pretty much like before the new year um by even before that like thanksgiving on um probably by like 80 percent yeah you really don't like you don't need it it's easy to do down here they don't have sandwiches down here it's actually pretty yeah they really they only have a couple places yeah i can't eat bread anyway but i was i was crushing potatoes rice all that stuff uh so it was easier for me to do but i still started sneaking like you get like addicted to that like just rush of fucking

carbs and sugar even if it's not refined sugar and um but yeah i like really took that down i did like keto for a while then i was like all right well i still want to like you know be able to like exercise and all this other stuff which you can still do on keto but i noticed like there's something to having like carbs right before you work out that for me kind of works and like yeah i'm like dude i like was eating so many carbohydrates a day and it's like make you hunger they do dude that's the other thing too now i just eat like a big breakfast I just do my thing all day, and I eat dinner, and that's it. It's like you don't – lunch is bullshit, dude.

Lunch is fucking bullshit. Psy-up of the schooling system. We need the kids to do something between the hours of 12 and 1. We're going to give them lunch. Yeah, true. I don't know. Could be, dude. Actually, I think that psy-up is actually the factory worker.

It's like they were working so hard. They needed to eat, and then it just became normal as they eat. That's what I've heard. No, I've heard something similar about that where it's like it keeps people in like a certain rhythm. was that that was the uh maslow the guy who did the uh hierarchy needs all this stuff he was big on the whole thing of like just the fact that like yeah just a lunch bell in general he's like so a bell's going to tell your body it's time to eat he's like just wait till you're hungry dude

like yeah that's just be hungry then that's like if you're not hungry don't eat yeah it's like well it's lunchtime i have to eat now that was the thing too you're like you're in an office fucking sucks you finally get that little like window of freedom and you just run to a place you're not even hungry you're like i have to eat right now it's fucking soul crushing that's what uh when i'm not traveling i'm pretty good at the intermittent fasting yeah i won't eat until like dinner see i'm good with traveling actually weirdly really it fucks me i go away on like weekends for shows and i come back and i lose weight because i'll just like i just won't eat until like i'm like all right now i'm really hungry and i in order to do stand-up i've done

before i'm like lightheaded for not eating i'm like that doesn't work so i'll just wait wait wait eat like a big meal and then snack on something like during the stand-up hours like you know while i'm waiting or whatever and you know it's like but i understand it being obviously if you have the uh the options are available to you it's like yeah it's impossible not to gain weight yeah like i gotta go to nashville tonight and i'm uh i'm already thinking like i gotta fucking eat at the airport my flight's at seven i'm like fuck yeah it's the thing i'll just be hungry i won't eat at the airport and every now also the airport's decent because they have like tacos and shit yeah but i try when i the days that i fly just fast i don't eat at all until i land

maybe i'll do that and then once i get there i'm like really hungry and i'm like fuck yeah now i'm gonna eat yeah we're just gonna be hungry i'm like fuck it i'll wait eat when i'm when i wake up yeah but if i have a thing where i need to use my brain i need to i can't be like fasting it seems like we're again solve a problem you need to recognize it because it seems like more people are waking up like the maha movement and my wife is maniacal about it she's like get the seed oils out like we take the raw milk raw cream she makes butter she makes her own pasta it's awesome yeah he's right then people who i mean it's like again it's like i get if you don't like trump whatever that's fair i would never be like no you're a fucking idiot it's like i you you know we live different lives

i'm sure you have reasons for stuff but yeah to be against like kennedy and be like for like wanting to not poison ourselves with food and i get through like the you know food propaganda it's like what's your problem what's the problem dude it's like we we literally have been being slowly and not even being dramatic like poisoned like the food is literally when you heat for fryer fryers are like the bane i i hate fucking fried food it's like you're it's a vat of just you know carcinogenic chemical sludge that's not supposed to be heated dude all like the polyunsaturated fats and like well they're on like a whatever molecular level whatever it is they're little they they give and that way when they go through your arteries they're not like a

bad saturated fat that like like it's like super stable and blocks it it's like sure when you you know olive oil raw great but it's like once you fucking heat that shit at like 600 degrees for 12 hours it turns into literally poison like literally poison it's disgusting i've worked over fryers and you feel sick after you get done at the end of the day you're just like oh i worked at uh i mean we weren't frying it but like i worked on hot dogs saying we were boiling hot dogs all day still you're smoking cigarettes all day sitting next to a propane tank yeah i'm the same as you though i'm i am like i'm uh i'm really really optimistic i think things are going to like kind of pan out pretty well yeah um i'm not into like the whole doom and gloom stuff and it's like

you know if i'm wrong fucking at least i didn't waste my life dooming and glooming so it's like i i do think people are going to slowly kind of wake up and like all right like i'm very away pilled right now i think uh yeah i mean obviously my focus on bitcoin is a big source of that but i think again i think it's like i'm 33 born in 91 like like the food just thinking about like fruit loops uh lucky charms like cookie crisp fun dip like and they knew too because they're like cookies for breakfast in the commercial like cookies for breakfast it's crazy it's like that

and then like I feel like Nickelodeon was molesting all the kids you watched on TV all that God bless all that cast Laurie Beth Timber

damn if you think about it it's crazy we're being poisoned from the inside our entertainers are just being fucking molested at Nickelodeon it's pretty

the 90s were like a true dark age yeah yeah and luckily I was a child like unaware of all the shit

so it was naive to it but now looking back and then you roll into like 9-11 yeah the wars the financial crisis it's like what the fuck i feel like it's really bad when you put it that way it's pretty dark yeah but we've also like the first internet generation i feel like 20 years

into it now and when the internet was popular a lot popularized i feel like we're just like learning the lessons like how it's fucked up and learning how to deal with the flood of information of filter like signal for noise and get good information out there i agree and you know the flood of obviously feedback which like people like being like you know like cyberbullying and all that stuff yeah it's like you really have to learn how to like i mean there's a i get it there's a thriller i see on youtube and like just going people's videos and be like you weird old fucking weird like you know it's just it's just fun and you also there's a pull like well maybe if i do this i'll get noticed and blah blah blah but yeah i mean dude it would be cool there there

is like there's the possibility of like i think we're under utilizing the internet like a lot right now where it could be used you know in a way that'll be pretty cool and it's like this sounds like naive and stupid but it's like and i'm not just saying this because i make youtube videos and people like call me gay online and stuff but it's like just imagine if we were nice online dude we can make each other so happy it's never gonna happen imagine if you guys just like told me i was like the man like we're like pumped for me rather than call me gay and stupid annoying but no i do think yeah i think the um i think if we can have a couple generations grow up where like the internet's on this you know i mean it's already happened where it's like people are coming

to age where like it's just always been a part of their lives i think people will figure out yeah that kind of more useful applications of it yeah we were the first to the door got fucking kicked in the dick and now we can tell our kids like all right yeah here's the deal stay away from uh um stay away from the chatbot stay away from me go into the forums delve into the forums let me know let me look at it me and my brother are off porn i i mean we're just i was gonna bring that up thank you for being as i've been an anti-porn advocate for for some time now too yeah dude it's people people hiss and they don't like it i get it because you know if i was i was addicted to it like and it's like when you're addicted to a thing and somebody kind of

points out that it's not the best usual reaction to be like oh you're a fucking loser blah blah that's how i was when people didn't smoke weed when i was younger i was like i would get like offended i'd be like what yeah why not i would get like pissed but it's like yeah dude it's uh my brother just sent me he was telling me he's like now he was like thank god you know i'm off because he was like now there's full content houses he was like sending the thing it was like it's college kids just kind of like just almost like open cam you can kind of tune in and just like watch real it's it sounds gross even just muttering these words but it's like he was like thank god he was like this would have been my fucking i just put it on mainline spike

literally like big brother like tuned into the house i think so i don't know that's that i didn't i didn't look at it that was just like i like there's something i glimpsed on my phone i was like well it's like it fucks your brain up so much dude and i'm telling you and it's like when you're in it you're like it's just porn dude like relax I I've been off of it for not even that I did like almost like guts of a year a year or two ago off of it and then I obviously relapsed and fell back into it but now I'm off of it again it's like dude it really does something to like just like my baseline like physical attraction for like being married and stuff like it's just your libido it totally changes your libido yeah and I didn't have anything I had

like a like a libido issue in terms of like having like not enough libido but it's like it's just like being like like simple things of like being touched and like like i'll see my wife in her underwear i'm like fuck like i literally get before when you're like on porn you're just kind of like my wife's in her fucking underwear now i'm like you tap back into me like holy shit there's a naked vagina in my bed right now this is crazy let's go yeah it's kind of it's the way it should be just for a just for the reasons of like staying together in a marriage because it is like it's going to be annoying you're going to annoy each other she's going to annoy you blah blah blah and if there's like there's times where i'm like fuck you're bothering the fuck out of me

and i'm like i want you to change this about yourself but then i get so horny that i'm like it's fine fuck and then we have sex and i'm like that their need that's like a memory wipe i think dudes need to have yeah otherwise dudes go like purely into their like cognitive mode where they're like wait what are we doing here why are we it's like no dude like your fact you're you're losing the fact that like you know you're just horny and you're having sex with your wife and you don't think about it too much yeah she's gonna bother you it doesn't mind fuck for people like you stop watching porn or like i'm on i feel better dude and i had the ultimate test i'm sure you're doing this we're like i'm in hotels by myself and that i was like i was for real like i can't get through

a hotel like it's just unfathomable for me to be in a hotel alone and not fat myself to sleep and i've now have two successful weekends under my belt of hotel being alone in a hotel room and being like no i'm just gonna go to bed i'm like uh i'm not looking at porn i'm many years in and at some point i don't know when it happened i don't even think about it anymore you really do get i'm telling you the pool is the same the pool's not there and there's like a weird switch and this is the same thing for like you know we're mentioning like addicts of like alcohol addicts of gambling there and this is why aa i mean people i think a lot of people know this it was founded around that guy bill whatever his name is but originally it was lsd was supposed to be like

the final step where you're like there's this whole tie-in between like having what's like you know essentially a mystical experience or like a unity experience blah blah blah which is apparently like part of what human being being human beings about like our our brain is wired in some way to somehow facilitate like peak experiences like maslow or just this kind of like weird unit of larger than life experience um but my whole point is like if you can kind of tap into some shred of that anything that's addicting you is like laughable in turn like the pull of all that stuff just completely like does something where it just wipes it out where that's like literally your god if you're a heroin addict like heroin's your god yeah and there's this weird kind of backdoor

circuit in our brain to have this sort of experience that just like wipes that off and it's like you know i with porn especially you know you can really kind of look at like you know the family unit unit per se not in like a preachy kind of like what do you like porn better than your family but if you can kind of like somehow learn how to put those two things in perspective it's like yeah this is it's not i'm not saying it's evil or you're evil but like it truly doesn't serve you to have a family and lead a family to just be like any chance you get to be like it's like it's literally in my opinion

they're mutually exclusive things people are like oh it's like I just like you're gonna have it on your phone the kids are gonna see that they're gonna walk

it's like you have to get rid of that shit imagine your kid walking with your pants to your ankles your laptop over your neck I mean that's yeah exactly that's like

that's the nightmare scenario or even like seeing your porn it's so gross to like be like oh fuck it's unpleasant no as soon as you're done

the moment you're done you're like ah fuck you know you go Jesus Christ it's literally a weapon of war used to demoralize populations like i can see it man i think it's not good no and uh it warps your feedback loop and your dopamine and all that shit the uh if you're out there i recommend taking a

break if you're into it at least take a break and you will notice you're like oh shit okay like yeah this is i i was you know i was depleting myself unnecessarily and it has like it has a fucking effect dude yeah and now i'm on the retention game like i don't know retention game sick retention game my problem with the retention game is when i retain too long and then i finally get to have sex with my wife i'm done almost all it's ridiculous dude it's like you know you know i'm like sorry man you know but i don't know she's always like no it's kind of like weirdly flattering but it's like yeah i hear you but like dude let's work out a system where like it's kind of because whenever she's ovulating that's when she gets like super horny so i'm like let's start working

in some hjs like let's get like kind of like you know soft launch and then and then that way you know we'll be friends and family and then that way once you're like once you're up and running i'm not just like a kind of starving dog that's going to be like fuck it right as soon as i start i'm like this is not listening it's done but the retention game is it's that was that was the thing that launched me really with the uh my recent not watching porn was um dude i like i had been off it for like months and then like me and my me and my wife had sex one night and it was like you know when you read the kama sutra and you're like people have like divine experiences through sex i never really wrapped my brain around it and then like he had sex and i'm like dude this

is like fucking unbelievable this is like what they talk about in the bible i'm like this is i had for real like you see it wasn't like it wasn't like a mystical kind of thing but it was like i don't know something like happened where i was like oh yeah this is what you're supposed to be doing like not like it is an intimate oh fuck i just fapped today of course this is the day my wife wants to have sex and you know like you just do some like semi-soft dick shit on your wife this was like days and days of like just pent-up experience being like oh my god it's almost like there's some wisdom there like whether it's karma search or the bible like it's a spiritual sort of yeah act and you should take it seriously i do i totally agree yeah yeah no thank you it's

hard to be a public i get i get made fun of a lot whenever yeah people like to trash it i don't bring it up too often anymore because people are like people that think you're closetly addicted to porn when you bring it up they're like oh you're projecting i am i've talked to people i am addicted to pornography like when i try to stop watching it i can't therefore i am addicted like totally like 100 i think everybody is and now what now it's again like degenerate hedonistic acceleration like only fans and now yeah man it's all going to be ai at some point soon too like all those pornhouses are going to notice that they can produce the same because you're going to be fapping to uh artificial artificially intelligent depictions of yeah i didn't think about that oh

it's all going to be yeah what about where are all the porn ladies gonna go i guess they can verify somehow they're real and that'll give people an extra like oh fuck it's gonna be hard yeah yeah damn oh yeah even they could do chat yeah all that stuff could be i mean this is predictable it was a demolition man yeah it's been predicted it's true it's like we're getting to the point where it's possible and that's like the push and pull of the technological digital age and that's like the beyond that's like the beyond burger of porn yeah think about how soulless that is yeah you just got got by the computer yeah dude i mean dude it's like that fucking uh shane was laughing at me when i brought it up on rogan the supernormal simuli where they're like

there's like butterflies or moths that like are attracted there's a butterfly that like they have a built-in program to be like if you see this shade of purple that's your mate the more brilliant the shade of purple is like the better for these butterflies then you have scientists who like create these shades of purple that just won't that their female butterflies can never produce because they you know they use like technology and then they'd have these like male butterflies just hovering over this it's supernormal stimuli it's like they can't be produced within its own kind of realm but it hijacks its own neurology neurology to kind of just like dedicate its life to something that's just inherently fake fake and it'll just yeah

and it just dies the butterflies just like it but they're heading up against this thing they're like why isn't this working but they can't stop doing it and then they die and it's like damn it's so sad porn is a weapon of war yeah i believe it dude it is uh it is fucking ruining people but this was fun thank you it was awesome i know you gotta go thanks for explaining bitcoin that was nice was it okay i guess that was that actually makes sense i can actually speak with some confidence now because i'd always people would talk to me my eyes would spin i'd be like i don't want to get too preachy but uh a man your level of success everybody in your realm should seriously be considering like saving in bitcoin yeah man no i i've i've i've warmed my wife up to it because

you know she was skeptical and she was kind of like but i'm like look just taking them out they can't hurt you every month and just start just allocating it into it every month and yeah that's the way that's how i got into it in college yeah 50 bucks a paycheck there you go that's what people should do nice like square away some money don't put in a bank account it's just eroding your purchasing power bitcoins or savings account that's how i like to pitch it it's gonna move all right thank you thank you dude this is great peace and love freaks