TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #580: Did DeepSeek Pop The Bubble? with Dave Collum

Episode Date: February 5, 2025

Marty sits down with Dave Collum to discuss DeepSeek, Club of Rome, Trump's first executive orders, and more. Dave on Twitter: https://x.com/DavidBCollum 0:00 - Intro 0:36 - DeepSeek and Nvidia 5:05 - Club of Rome and pedo blackmail 12:53 - Fold & Bitkey 14:48 - Election theatrics 21:38 - Fauci 26:03 - Unchained 27:03 - Trump's impact on science 32:00 - Jabs from Polio to Pfizer 44:28- MRNA has no quality control 48:35 - Clearing out FEMA 54:35- The atmosphere has changed 58:38- Vance and big tech 1:03:47 - Did DeepSeek pop the bubble? 1:10:17 - Bessent's reset 1:14:08 - Ozempic 1:19:04 - EOs and Chevron Deference 1:27:04 - Thiel and Chokepoint 2.0 (Dave gets coffee) 1:30:57 - Ukraine and the London bankers 1:34:57- Revised history of WWII - Stalin won 1:41:12 - FDR 1:44:57 - Various controversial women 1:50:37 - Wrapup Shoutout to our sponsors: Fold https://foldapp.com/marty/ Bitkey https://bitkey.world/ Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/

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I don't know if you remember this, but the last time you were on the show, you called NVIDIA a fraud. And that may be, there's some questions about what's going on there this week. Well, so it turns out this deep, deep seek, right? which Fleckenstein calls Deep Six. I had gotten wind of it back in November. And so the Deep Six, and I tried to go through my notes to figure out, and I think what I thought was that China had a better chip.

But my understanding of Deep Six is that they've got a better algorithm that makes the chips irrelevant. Have I read that right? That's what's being marketed. So they launched a couple of open source models last week, and they're multimodal, so they're a bit more modular than what you're seeing with, like, OpenAI and others. They're open source, which is very important, and they're marketing that it took them $5.6 million to train the model, which one would assume due to the sanctions. $5.6 how much? Million dollars.

Oh, that's a nothing burger. Okay. Yeah. So that's been the shockwave sent across the bow of the blister. And you know where it showed up in funny places. So what was funny is it didn't seem to pound some of the big techs I thought it might have pounded. Possibly because I said, now you guys don't have to spend all this money on NVIDIA, right? It hammered, this makes sense, but only in retrospect, I wouldn't have thought of this. It hammered the uranium's place because now they don't need nuclear power plants.

Right. So Cameco dropped like 12 percent. Well, there's still I think it's still an open question that the five point six million dollar to train the models claim. I mean, the models, objectively, people have been running them locally on their own machines and testing them against the popular models, Claude, ChachiBT, 01, 04, and their performance. The question is whether or not it actually only took them $5.6 million. And one of the theories out there is that they're lying about that because they can't explicitly say that they have access to NVIDIA chips due to the sanctions. I'm going to correct you there. I think it's NVIDIA. NVIDIA. Yeah.

What is that, NVIDIA? You're saying NVIDIA. NVIDIA. NVIDIA. Yeah, but there's a theory that they've been sneaking chips in via Singapore and trained the model using NVIDIA chips. It's pretty clear, too, that they were scraping. So the training of the model, do you reach a point where it's trained and therefore you don't need the chips anymore? i i really this i'm way outside my skill set on this stuff there's two parts that make the

chips necessary the first is training the lm and you do that for a period of time and then it gets to a point where it's like okay we can launch this right this is like teaching big blue to play chess yes and then after that you need the chips for what is called inference inference yeah so you ping ping the bottle now is it possible you don't need the chips once it's trained well that's what people have been showing people have been showing that you don't maybe don't need the gpus there was somebody who strung together seven m4 um mac chips and were able to create a completely robust model using their open source the deep seek open source stuff so so someone dm'd me yesterday with a tweet from december that told this whole story yeah there's a somehow this has

been lurking out there without catching anyone's attention yeah there's a journalist george webb i'm actually going to have him on the show next week george webb's the guy big conspiracy guy right yeah george webb yeah but he gave a presentation on january 3rd calling out deep seek before the broader public was aware of it and he actually tied it to that opening i i i didn't mean to say that pejoratively because i'm a big conspiracy theorist too i could only dream of being what george webb can do yeah and uh his theory is that the open eye whistleblower that got suicided um was working with deep seek in a way it was actually deep seek that may have killed him because he had two i thought altman killed him it's a crazy world out there uh it is not

boring no speaking of not boring just before in case i forget um as you know i'm interested in both climate change and pedophile networks. And it turns out there's a guy who seems to be chiming in big on both who I'm on a zoom call with today. He is the former president of the club of Rome. You're, you're wading into waters. I'm wading into deep, deep, deep waters. Yeah. If I get suicide, I am not suicidal. Let's start with that. I was on the, there's a zoom group I'm on that was put together for COVID and they've got

some big swinging dicks in it i mean serious like jerome corsi and and like a week ago i was on a zoom call with steve bannon um how was that what's that how was that well so the problem is my wife had a doctor's appointment so i'm doing it through my phone ducking in and out of the doctor's appointment so it sucked it's recorded so i can get a recording of it um but it was you know right before Trump was inaugurated, and I'm going, this is the guy who can tell me what's about to come, right? Probably. If there's anyone who can, this is the guy. What I'll tell you is he's, the man has passion. He has not forgotten those four months he spent in jail. And then what happens is there's this dynamic of Zoom groups, which you can write a PhD thesis on,

where you get a guy like steve bannon on and you have this opportunity to ask them questions that that are so uniquely interesting and and and they feel it's their job to tell steve things that he ought to know and i go would you please shut the fuck up and ask him a question because i want the information flow from steve to me not from you to him and it's really as it happened so we i was on with uh andrew bridgen the mp from great britain and um jerome course he was there and and um and bridgen has called out the pedophiles and said i've taken data to the to mi5 mi6 no one you know you name it i've done it but but i listened to an interview he had done he named no names and so i tried to push him to name some names and he um he did not want to name

names and i think i think i think the sense i got it was subtle but he didn't want to get whacked right and uh and and so this this zoom group is really a very special group and and and again course he's really interesting because of course he's like alex jones level he really he knows everyone he knows trump he knows them all and and he's deep deep deep into the dark dark recesses do you think we get any revelations on this topic this administration i know people who are wildly wildly optimistic including um matt taibbi is he yes you just don't talk i haven't watched that yet but oh you gotta watch that oh that's a good one because taibbi they don't answer questions they ask the questions they they talk about all the things that they would like to know they think

they think we're going to find out treasonous levels of shit going on in the white house you know who who is making the calls and is this illegal and you know things like that they seem to they seem to think that um this shit's coming out now i've done deep diving on diddy and i'm not convinced now shit's coming out the Diddy story keeps reducing to the occasional famous person gets winged like Obama. Right. And so you see, but, you know, guilt through association is a bad, bad story. So you see Obama and Diddy, but the two black guys who are famous, right. That's just not Oprah Winfrey with Diddy. That doesn't mean anything either. But what it really looks like is that Diddy ran

an operation where they just had a bunch of orgies and a bunch of gay rappers taking a bunch of drugs and there's the raping of justin bieber stories that keep coming up and stuff like that so there's some bad stuff but i i feel bad for justin bieber but but justin bieber getting raped by pete diddy it doesn't get you anywhere it doesn't tell you about how the world works is what i'm always looking for as we've talked about but andrew bridge and then the former president of the club of Rome and guys like that, they tell you how the world works. Like former club of president club of Rome, uh, here, I will, I will read you something. This is, I, I, I,

I knew I had some quotes from that boy and, uh, and I, I went through and fished them out. Um, and, and, uh, hold on. This is, this is, um, And so I got to ask him, did you say this? You know this problem, right? Here's one of his quotes. The oligarchs run the United Nations. We know that they have a pedophilia system, quote unquote.

The second one is the UN can have a fantastic role, but it's not. The problem is that these oligarchs, all of them are related to the system of pedophilia. We know that there are more than 8 million children per year that disappear. they disappear without any information you could imagine why asking him a few questions would be of interest well isn't one of the theories that the club of rome is behind a lot of this well the club of rome has got all these shadowy all the shadowy innuendo what someone said it really well so when you dig into this crap and one could ask anyone who's who's not listening who our previous podcaster hasn't listened to me or whatever, would say, what are you digging into?

And the bottom line for me is I see things happening in the world that make no sense, zero sense. Why would you ever open the southern border? And the answer like, oh, we need more Democratic voters. No, just cheat on the election. You don't need to open the southern border for that, right? That's just a dumb answer to me. And it seems to me that there are people making decisions that are so against any fundamental principles that we stand for that there's got to be a reason. There's got to be a gravitational pull. And I got on the thesis that, you know, Epstein is the obvious case, but Epstein was a sophisticated spook, right? And so he wasn't going to be garish. He was, his stuff you would never know about if it didn't occasionally

pop out but but the darker stuff is where it really gets weird where um you know there's there's a victim who claims that she watched a senator be told look you're either going to bang this five-year-old girl or we're going to kill these three children right in front of you you make the call and when she got pressed to name names she said bernie sanders and that that kind of level of of being compromised causes events in the world to be unexplainable yeah and that's what i've been trying to get at for two goddamn years now sup freaks this is natty you don't want to skip because fold has a great offer for you everyone knows about fold the app where you can earn the most bitcoin rewards for everyday purchases

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I don't think, for example, I don't think they ever intended to run Biden for a second term. I think that was a ruse from day one. I think his job was to knock Trump out. And I've also been thinking, as you know, I have kind of a gag order on Israel-Palestine because, A, I don't want to get my head shot off on a campus at which you stick your head up, you prairie dog it at all, someone's going to shoot you. Um, but, but, but I mean, I've, I have made some statements like, for example, um, when Kamala was choosing a running mate, one theory is she had to find someone dumber than her and Waltz was the

only one. Um, the other, um, they looked at Shapiro and he's very popular governor and stuff like that. His ties with Israel are profound. They're not just like Israel gave him a bunch of money and therefore he supports Israel. Now he tried to join the Israeli military, right? He, he has much stronger ties which um which would possibly be okay but i think the ticket was at risk of blowing up completely um in a period where israel's bombing the shit out of gaza and so i think i think that they look they said we can't put that guy on the ticket as long as israel's bombing the shit out of gaza that that that will become a fatality for the democratic party little did they know they were going to get multiple headshots you know since since inauguration day

i mean truly since the election and since inauguration day well between the conversation when kamala was taking over i forget if like the timeline's so compressed and um fuzzy to me right now but like the assassination attempts on trump too like that obvious they were they were so fucked up weird desperation there was there was well not just that but the storyline is just dead wrong i mean i think i think um i think um what's the first guy's name come on i wrote about it i don't know his fucking name thomas uh thomas uh whatever the young kid i i think he had probably some mk ultra product right and and he did try to shoot trump i don't know why they didn't give him a scope let's start with that shit like that but all sorts of things are wrong with the story

but i think it was an attempted assassination the second one i don't think was ever even attempted assassination here here's a little ditty for you that's really funny so ryan ruth his his origin story so fucking weird you go there's no way that's normal his it turns out i was on a podcast the other day and and i had to i couldn't remember it i said who is max boot married to he's what is it victoria newland or something they said no she's married to kagan i guess was luongo and i said okay he's married to someone important and it's this chinese woman who turns out to be a spy and and and and it turns out that she was ryan ruth's first follower on twitter and he was over like recruiting people he was in ukraine he was he he thwarted a rapist

years ago he he he was filmed by one of the news agencies after a flood in maui he's supposedly dirt broke but there's a portion in his driveway he's married to a victoria secret not married to dating a victoria's secret model who by the way we know where victoria's secret takes you all the way up to epstein and and so his origin story is so preposterous and and he you know he supposedly camped out to get trump and there was no way to know that trump was going to be at the golf course and something the whole story's nuts yeah well that and the first attempt if that was even attempt but this whole storyline leading up to the election and then the iranians the claim the iranians were after him i go that's a great cover story because then you can shoot and blame

the iranians and bomb the shit out of iran yeah that's a twofer well two quote-unquote failed attempts one i think is very explicit bolts for flying second one unclear exactly what happened but it seems like that was a desperate attempt to basically really torpedo the election and get trump biden didn't quit until they couldn't get trump out yeah so i really do think there was a plan a b c and d and and the plans were failing serially and so i guess that begs the question what does that mean now it seems like trump is emboldened a lot of people are saying the moves he's made the first two weeks in office are a product of the fact that they tried to kill him and now he's just pure red eyes like i'm i'm gonna mess this whole system up and gut it completely

leroy jordan yeah jenkins jenkins leroy jenkins um i'm not sure how much how i'm not sure how much you needed the assassination for him to go there because they had already treated him so poorly for eight straight years. So I think the Democratic Party has completely and utterly destroyed itself. So if they recognize that, they have a number of years to try to rebuild it, bring in new blood, get rid of the losers, which is quite a large number. They should be primering themselves, right? I mean, they should just find new people. They should do a cattle call and say, if you got half of a brain, we want you because we don't have anyone with half of a brain right now. You know, put Fetterman up there for Christ's sakes, right? And the Democratic

media, the pundits are doubling down. Some are shutting up and some are doubling down. The democratic politicians right now if i were a democrat and i didn't have to say anything i would be zipping it so hard i would just not go near a microphone right but they're they're boning it they continue to look like total assholes yeah there's no humility and it is shocking because it's also desperation yeah i mean they're saying ludicrous things now i mean it was ludicrous before but now in the context of everything we know well and then then you come out like the last days in office you retroactively pardon um people who have not been charged for crimes specifically so so here's a question that keeps coming up and i've gotten different answers and

i actually tried to get it independently and that is if you are pardoned do you no longer have the right to plead the fifth and i've seen smart guys say yes but when i dug into it and i tried to find out using a little ai and shit to see if i could get through the weeds i got the answer no because you could be charged in the state court or something like that and therefore you have the right to say no i'm not going to incriminate myself well i i guess the question before even getting to that is like can you be pardoned if you haven't been charged for anything i that to me is complete mystery hour i it strikes me as outlandish and can they pardon people going forward for crimes not yet committed yeah and i don't think you can do that well then it's essentially

what they did with fauci though he hasn't committed any crimes quote unquote so no no no no but if he has he committed them in the past at least yeah right now he could perjure himself and things like that and then all of a sudden they got him they get him in a perjury trap now he's done i think i don't think he can pardon someone for crimes going forward i i don't think that's remotely possible yeah have you heard the the theory the rumor behind the scenes that the ukraine russia ceasefire negotiations part of that may be extraditing falchi to to russia i've heard that rumor but you know have one of the problems you have is that you get these leads and the best example i know is actually this trafficking narrative where you always get a

lead that's really provocative but you are left at this point where you have to extrapolate over some chasm to actually draw a conclusion from it and so so you never get the qed moment where you say we've got them we've we've got the facts oprah is a pedophile or oprah is not a pedophile you You just can't. You can never seem to get something that's so definitive. And so, you know, would we hand over Fauci to Putin? That's what we'd have to do, right? Yeah, that's the rumor.

Trump would do it. Of course, Trump seems to be turning on the vaccine finally after years of being stupid about it, in my opinion. He should have just said Warp Speed was a great idea, but those guys boned it. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It would have been trivial to say, look, I delegated. It turned out to be a bad delegation.

He's got witnesses, someone like Scott Alice, by the way, who was in that Zoom group I'm in. I mean, it was an elite Zoom group. He said, I asked him if Fauci and Birx were intentionally nefarious. And his answer, now he might have been positioning for a cabinet position or something so i'm not positive that he was giving completely straight answers but he said what you cannot fathom is how stupid those two are he says unimaginably stupid he said you do not have to invoke a nefarious intent to explain their incredible stupidity

yeah i mean the real anthony fauci the book makes it pretty clear horrifying horrifying and then horrifying by the way his pardons don't go back far enough no well you could get his ass for 35 years ago you know i want to get him for gain of function that was a frustrating thing about the part and they went all the way right before they spun up those labs to work on gain of function i think i have to pardon the entire mainstream media for that matter I'd find some treason charge on those bastards. It's just, it's frustrating. It is.

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The first week, he carpet bombed the country. Blitzkrieg. I couldn't believe it. I could not. It was like reading Annie Jacobs' nuclear war book, right? I mean, he just launched. The first month, I said, well, really. And we got in the first week what I would have optimistically hoped for in the first month.

We had the first night what I optimistically would have thought the first day, the first week. I mean, everything is accelerated by a factor of 10, best I can tell. There's going to be huge collateral damage, and I can see some of it from the academic world. So, for example, for me to get a grant, I just wrapped up my program last summer, so it's not relevant. I terminated the grants and I'm done. But to get a grant, you have to send in a proposal and it goes through a study section. Well, they're all locked down. So my colleagues, I think it's possible there's a mechanism by which those who have, say, a five-year grant, some program director can say, okay, I'm just going to tack a sixth year on.

we don't need a study section for that but if you're if you're brand new and you don't have a grant you have to go through a study section and they don't exist right now now i also heard this morning and i thought it would be there but i hadn't heard it yet and that is that trump intends to shut down the whole climate change bullshit that would be great well but but but there's going to be a lot of collateral damage because under the guise of climate change where you say, okay, I'm studying material science and I'm an elite guy and whatever, and I'm doing good work and I'm going to sell it as climate change. Because, you know, when I write a grant, I mean, I've collaborated with probably a dozen big cap pharmas. So I can legitimately say, this is why

my program is relevant. But if you've hung your legitimate program on the climate change narrative and say, well, that's where the bucks are. So I'm going to say, look, we're going to study this material science to help climate change you just lost your funding potentially and so as i've said and i actually wrote this i said you may be the baby thrown out with the bath water you might be a good scientist but here's where you're guilty you are in a field filled with charlatans and you refuse to clean it up yourselves so if the climate scientists said no no no that's bullshit this is the story it's legitimate it's you know we should be concerned about this but not that that's crap you know if they had

but they all just shut up and took the money they just took the money and so now i have a funny feeling that there could be scientists who are deserving of funding who are going to get clobbered is that collateral damage that's worth it you think or i think it is worth it because i don't think that you know you know my view we have to go through the valley of death before we get to the other side there's no way to avoid the valley of death in my opinion no no yeah we got to take the the the harsh medicine whether it's yeah we're gandalf we're fighting the balrog right now yeah whether it's in this context um obviously the global financial system markets yeah yeah i don't see a way out i that i don't know if you caught up we get back to the deep seek stuff like

and it looks like china's just been waiting in the brush for the trump admin to get in to begin it looked well timed didn't it well yeah they had two days before you had larry ellison sam altman masa oh ellison's presentation was horrifying yeah now the problem is and people really made ellison i don't know if it was intentionally horrifying or what but the trump administration very quickly said that's not our policy ellison's speaking for himself that came off as total nazi bullshit yeah we're gonna have dedicated mrna vaccines for individuals it's complete well not just that for cancers that some blood test tells us you have and we're sitting there going dude i'm already opposed to vaccines now you don't have to keep selling it right

it's it's there's no chance i will take another vaccine unless the system really cleans itself up well by the way have you have you heard the the backstory of the polio vaccine that's surfacing um i don't know about the one that's surfacing now but i know like the ddd ddt theory that yes ddt well it's not dd no it goes further back so so the the polio vaccine one of the claims is that that it showed up at the very end of the polio pandemic so that so it didn't really stop the pandemic as so often as the case it turns out now the backstory is the polio was first written about in 1797. But there was no evidence that anyone had detected paralysis with the polio virus until around 1897. And then paralysis started showing up. And it correlates both temporally,

meaning time and geographically with some super toxic pesticides not ddt worse than those arsenic lead crap like that and that you can actually see time-wise the paralysis shows up and you can see regions where the uh where the where the where the spraying started and that's where the paralysis started showing up now do i believe this necessarily not yet because it just got on my radar but i'm going holy shit no i'm in that camp that the polio vaccine came at the end what really was causing it was the pesticides ddt right once that polio virus is real i think oh yeah but they took they took a bunch of people in africa they studied it and they took some tribe in africa and they tested everyone there's three strains of polio supposedly and they tested

everyone and they all had all three strains and there was no paralysis anywhere well it's similar to the uh hiv aids azt thing yes yes yes correlation causation and you sort of misdirect and claim it's a bigger problem and the cause is the correlation causation argument it's irritate it's It's irritating in both directions, but there's the guys who, you know, it's like I dropped a brick in my foot and it hurts like shit. And they go, well, that's correlation, but not causation. I go, fuck that. Right. And it's like when Pierre Corey started giving people ivermectin and after

about five patients sprung out of bed and went home the next day, he goes, I don't need a double blind study of a hundred thousand people. Right. Every time I did this, they went home and my son i saw it happen he was sicker than shit one morning and i said take ivermectin five in the morning i said take 40 milligrams ivermectin some azithromycin some tylenol go to bed call me when you wake up because he was supposed to go to costa rica with my wife that fucking day and at nine at five a.m he calls it and he sounds sick and at nine he calls he says dad it's gone holy shit and that's what corey and these guys were describing they'd give it to

them and the people would want to go home the next day they go let me out of here i'm done and then they shut it down so uh to me that's mass murder that's crimes against humanity find out the guys who knowingly did that and hang them all i i don't care if you were at the at the top if you're a doctor who knowingly didn't give someone ivermectin now i'm sensitive to the fact that someone said put a gun to their head said you give my ivermectin you're losing your job and you can say well that's the auschwitz guard and i go yeah well i'm sorry but you know i i got jabbed i got jabbed because i was not willing to give up my job on a hunch and i couldn't imagine sitting there with my wife five years later which she says oh let's pay for

the grandchildren's college and say well you know we really don't have the cash flow for that because i had a hunch and the vaccine that i didn't like saved the world you know so so i said fuck it so i waited for people and the evidence was no one was dying from it which was wrong they hid that i read the pfizer papers oh i don't wish that on anybody um but i read them and And Pfizer knew everything. They knew everything. And via the FOIA request that were, I forget who called them, whether it was Schellenberg or somebody else, like we knew.

Well, Naomi Wolf started the process of digging through the papers. I don't know who filed the request. But when it got filed, I think it might have been Naomi with help. And then all of a sudden she had this overwhelming task, and so she put out an APB for experts to read them. and all of a sudden 3,200 people showed up and she didn't know what she was doing and this chick says I know how to handle this just step aside Naomi I'll take it from here and she was like this organizer person and she organized the whole fucking campaign like Patton and so 3,200 doctors

and scientists went through Pfizer's clinical trials and they knew everything they knew all the paralysis they knew all the the deaths they knew all the heart attacks the the the miscarriages massive miscarriage counts. We may have sterilized the population. I would love for someone who is an OBGYN to tell me the stats in their own personal office. There's a woman who did an interview where she said there's five of them in their office. She said, we're seeing so many fertility problems. We're seeing so many miscarriages. We're seeing so many stillbirths now and they're still happening that's the problem yeah i mean just anecdotally in my personal network friends family the amount of stillbirths and miscarriages seems abnormally

high well um my son's main squeeze at the ripe old age of 49 just had a stroke now you could that can happen but no one would blame me for saying i wonder right my research associate her husband got his third jab was in the er that night with all sorts of fucked up heart problems and died of a heart attack three months later do you know that it came from the jab no would you bet a paycheck it did surely that's a good bad yeah then you have the data like kevin mccernan i'm not sure if you're aware of him and they're like i'm very aware of kevin like what they're finding so so tell me what the latest on kevin is because my understanding is they have now found the vaccine sequence in tumor cells yes is that and i asked him and he said uh something about

they're triple checking that now so when i last was in communication with him about it um it sounded like they just wanted to dot the i's and cross the t's before they jam spears through people's eye sockets yeah no it's pretty clear have they proved it now i'm not sure if it's completely settled i'll ask him i had him on the show about a year ago and he was i believe in the middle of the study and making people aware of it but it seems if they're oh i asked him probably a month and a half ago so uh but but it so it sounds like it sounded to me like he was confident but that they were dotting their eyes and crossing their teeth just because this is not something you want to fuck up no no but it comes back to

basically the spike protein lingers and then it replicates and gets in causes of cancer the zoom call i was on with ryan cole again the zoom group was amazing and the zoom call was over we were all just sitting around chatting, maybe a half a dozen of us. And I didn't know it. Ryan had a vaccine injury. He said he can go a couple hours, then he has to take a nap. I mean, he had a problem himself. And I said to him, I said, Ryan, and Ryan's one of these really scholarly fucks. He's the most impressive of all the anti-vaxxers, in my opinion. I said, Ryan, what are the odds that the vaccine got into our DNA, which means therefore that now we are basically all suffering autoimmune problems. I, by the way, have itching all over my body. It could

be I'm getting old, but it also could be there's some low level thing that's causing me to itch. You just don't know. There's no way to know. So name it. So I say, Ryan, what's the odds that it got into our DNA by some reverse transcription mechanism, which could even be if you wanted to make an effective vaccine and want to crank a lot of spike protein you'd put a reverse transcriptase in the vaccine so you say ah we'll just inject it it'll reverse transcribe into the cells the body will produce for the rest of time right and it turns out that if that's true then there's a thing called igg4 which is basically they call it an antibody but i think it's a misnomer because what it actually does it shuts down the immune response and so it's like if you take snake venom

and you inject yourself with small amounts you become no longer responsive to snake bites which is how you not die when you're a snake handler right um that's igg4 preventing your immune system from hyperreacting and the first jab nothing the second jab you get a little tiny flicker of igg4 and then the third jab boom goes up a hundredfold and and that means that you are now susceptible to infection by covid because your system won't fight it yeah well it basically will say it won't recognize it essentially that well it just says this is no longer a foreign entity yeah and and and Pfizer knew all this and they had this catchphrase it drove me nuts they kept saying in their report so they collect some data on something including on babies and

shit and I'm going huh it was never clear from the Pfizer papers whether the bait whether vaccinating babies was intentional or or in the noise of an uncontrolled release of the vaccine but but they would they would say there are no new no new risk factors and you realize they're saying that because they're going we've already talked about that one so we don't need to call it a new one and so they had this over and over and over no new risk factors which meant yeah a fuck ton of old ones showed up again so so i think the vaccine killed more people than the disease i think that's i'm not sure if i bet a huge sum of money and life-changing sum of money but it sure as i'd comfortably

bet a paycheck just to just to get the damn answer yeah i mean whether it's the infertility the um what's the heart the heart thing myocarditis yeah the turbo cancers i mean so some turbo cancers are spooky the one that got brushed under the rug that i really i mean it's terrible but like susan muzicki ceo of youtube one of the biggest censors during this period she died of turbo cancer i don't i don't remember i didn't know that okay um and then some of those clots were pretty funky weird too we had john o'looney in the group he was the first um uh undertaker to step forward and saying we're pulling shit out of cadavers that we've never seen in this quantity or size before yeah the white stringy stuff the white stringy shit that looks

like it's made of some fucking you know good year based rubber material um and um and and i think there's probably what we don't know is how much we clipped off everyone's life who took it now um cole in that same conversation said something that hit me like a truck as a chemist and when i took biochem i was a genetics major as an undergrad um which one should not infer therefore i know what i'm talking about that would be a mistake um my genetics major is 50 years old but but i remember when you handle polynucleosides you have to handle very gently so if you want to break if you want to take dna and break it you just put it in a blender it just it shears it now normally molecules don't do that but when the molecule is you know

a hundred thousand times longer than it is wide it's like pulling on a piece of spaghetti um and so i remember that when you for example pipetted it you had to be gentle because you'll just fragment the dna so then the question is you're making batches huge batches and what is basically oil and vinegar salad dressing right saline and one part you know greasy nanoparticles and the other part you got to mix it but you can't shake it you can't stir it you can't agitate it or if you do you're ending up with a bunch of fragmented bullshit and then i realized that the batch dependence could very well be where the samples came from in this big vat and that that you could take out samples from the bottom you get saline

samples from the top you get huge amounts of that greasy toxic shit and it just clicked as soon as he said something about the mixing problem i go oh my god i hadn't thought of that so they're murderers they're murderers they were mishandling it breaking it up and some i don't know whether they were failing to stir it or whether they were straight the specs on the vaccine were so loose that there could have been something like 50 factorial numbers of different vaccines in in in they were given out so you needed something like 55 percent of the so it's at 11 or 1,200 base pairs, you needed 55% of that fragment to be considered up to specs. Which means you could have one that's 55 base pairs, you know, you have one that's 500 base

pairs, one that's 501 base pairs, 502 base pairs, up to 1,200, right? Or 600 base pairs, whatever. And it could be any region of the 1,200. Which means, and by the way, there were no specs there's no way they were testing these these vats and then they changed the protocol so in the Pfizer papers they changed the protocol of the synthesis to make a much more efficient and they did no tests no tests so no quality control no quality control they just said we're what I think what they did is they took a couple of rats and got antibodies okay it still works time we're done the testing was truly extraordinary they terminated monitoring everything after 90 days now that's against the law it breaks all sorts of federal laws

but they terminate now they vaccinated the control group which by the way was healthier than the non-control group. But it wasn't just because of that. What they also realized is during the study that people were getting COVID, they realized that both groups are going to end up 100% COVID infected. And so they wanted to terminate it so that they didn't remove the idea of efficacy, not whether it blocks the virus completely, but whether it does anything favorable. and both groups were going to be fully covet infected by the end i don't even know if i ever got coveted my wife got it and i was a little under the weather and she tested positive but that was it that was my experience too with it yeah that i mean if rfk gets confirmed

is he going to go after this i'm not sure she's been following the oh he will go after this you think so yeah so here's a guy who fought pharma for 30 years and then six months ago decides he's in charge of making sure that we don't eat shitty food he gets confirmed what's he going to do next he's going straight for pharma yeah that was who could possibly not confirm a guy who wants to make us healthy right he turned into a granola supporter right that was just to that was just to sanitize him he's gonna go after pharma yeah i mean it seems like the the pieces on the chessboard are being late pulling out of who i saw yesterday there was um dick tots sent to the fda like stop stop coordinating anything with

the world health organization i mean i don't want to get my hopes up i've got my hopes up too many times uh well but they they're the things they're doing are extraordinary right this this is they they trump didn't and and like um like that press conference in california he just doesn't yeah now i think the press overplayed the conflict i watched much bigger percentage of it than they showed that came on live and i said okay so i put on the background and she kisses ass non-stop so most of it was her kissing his ass. But there was that one moment where she said, yeah, we're taking away all the, and Trump is perfectly qualified to discuss California's problems because he knows regulations. He knows obstructionists, right? He knows how to develop.

He knows how to build. He knows all the shit. And she said, you know, that famous line where she said, yeah, we'll be ready within a week. He said, a week, that's too long. And she said, well, they got to be safe he said they're safe let him in he's dead right let him go the fuck into their house now let's get the dumpsters in there now and he i his no guff approach is really working and i have lefty friends who are very reluctantly showing some optimism yeah i mean whether it's la or look at what's happening in north carolina they're finally getting dump trucks out there Oh, I pray they vaporize FEMA. And I think he's going to. I think once he figures out that FEMA is a complete, and you hear someone say, I had dinner with a woman who runs, I don't know if

she runs, she works for, it was an interesting dinner because the husband was a lawyer who knows all about Chevron deference and shit like that. The wife, I'm sitting next to her at dinner and and she says she tells me she works for a not-for-profit that organizes that serves as an umbrella to 600 not-for-profits that are in charge of um disaster recovery so these are 600 organizations who say look we got to get down there with blue tarps and cover those houses you know that sort of thing and get food and get water and get whatever and i said to her i said And she said, I guess I probably shouldn't mention FEMA then. And the F-bombs started flying like crazy.

And she basically said FEMA is a DEI nightmare, that the hierarchy within FEMA is insanity. They have this hierarchy, and you don't break the hierarchy. And she says, you walk in the facility, and literally the chairs are hierarchically lined up from bottom of the food chain to top. And she says, we train our people to spot FEMA people to stay away from them. And I said, are there good people there? She said, no, there are no good people there because they can't stand it. Now, my wife had personal interaction with FEMA when Hurricane Irene hit the North Country. It was supposed to hit New York.

Everyone got excited. And then it went around and went to Vermont and northern New York. and she helped run a um a help center and people were literally walking out of the mountains with you know all muddy and haven't eaten anything for three days and shit like that and she said um fema showed up two weeks later put up a banner took photos literally put one band-aid on one worker and then left and then left so fema should be vaporized to the stuff just burn to the ground la style fema i mean 29 billion bucks right there during helene in florida the one video i saw was i think it was in the keys or somewhere in that area the the locals and private companies are

coming in with dumpsters and putting putting stuff in the back of their trucks and fema came man said stop like take it literally take it on your truck told me a story about that in one of our podcasts he told a story about some guy was threatened that he'd be arrested if he took his helicopter and got help he said fuck you and left yeah and and took the helicopter when got help but it got all weird he had to save the kids the guy's son he dropped off food and water but he couldn't bring the guy and he said i you know i i can't go back there so i'm gonna drop your son over here and then i'll come back and get you but uh no the fema guy should just be beaten with a stick i mean they're just they think they're good people that's the funny thing i think they believe

they're doing good but they're not they're lefties with you know nose rings and purple hair and yeah i mean you had you had the one press conference too where they were explicitly saying we're gonna we're gonna you'll help people uh uh minorities before if we see don't help trump people don't help trump people that was the other thing so so fuck you right i each hit and die that that it's very simple people died because of you now you should die i i have no patience left we're we're the other thing that the this election did is to cause everyone to drop their guard and so now you can use words like retard again you can there's just this whole sense of you say just i'm not putting up with it again we got our guy in the

white house he's shown us how to go how to go and and so now the left has no clue how to bully us and they're getting bullied mercilessly everybody's simply laughing it's like that's right and they're trying to to do what they were doing before and i'm going you know god you guys need to do a mea culpa yeah did you see the uh the new i forget it was in new york or whatever and the cover photo was like a picture of uh young gen z trump supporters i believe on the night of the inauguration and they literally cropped out all the uh all the black people to make it look like it was an all-white um racist party and you mean so so so look like waltz's cabinet yeah exactly but it got caught the best part was it got called out immediately it was

like yeah these people look like they're having fun um they're well dressed no one's afraid of the bully anymore so so so trump punched the bully in the nose and and now now it's now it's fuck you now you say look transgender is a mental disorder i don't care you know i feel sorry for you i feel sorry for schizophrenics i feel sorry for all sorts i've you know there's i read oliver sacks's book a man who mistook his wife for a hat i might have read it before i can't remember but it's the weirdest neural problems ever and some guy wakes up and he thinks it's someone else's leg he just wakes up one morning and he's totally normal in the next morning he wakes up and he thinks his fucking leg is someone else's leg and nothing will convince him it's his leg

and they go if this is your leg where'd it come from you know nothing will convince him and the first thing he did is he threw it out of bed he flopped out of bed himself and it turns out he's not the only one to to have this problem and so in the modern era what would we do we'd cut off his leg right if you're anorexic we'd say well you're identifying as a fat guy so we'll put you on a diet right this is the insanity right oh you think you're a girl therefore you get to go beat the fuck out of girls in sports and i was going to write about that in part three so to speak and now it's just gone i just patiently waited it's no longer relevant boys are not going to be competing in women's sports it's clear now the only thing that's not explained

is how the left could be so fucked up beyond imagination that they supported that now i don't think most did i think that was this sliver of an elite that somehow is keeping the bullying game going yeah you can tell there's definitely a segment of democrats in the political sphere that are breathing a sigh of relief like all right it's become well i did a poll on twitter on should boy biological males compete in women's sports i said no no ifs ands or buts no maybes yes or no god you know you know what a twitter poll looks like i got 5 000 votes that's a pretty good poll actually um and and i got 98.6 percent no society has long ago determined that this is a fucking stupid idea yeah but somehow we couldn't the 98.6 percent of us couldn't somehow get the

1.4 percent to shut the fuck up and where were the women who were no longer in sports but benefited you know i coached two collegiate sports as you know one of them was taekwondo No, the women benefited so much from Taekwondo. But if we made them compete against men, that would not be a big benefit. No. That would destroy the sport completely, utterly. Now, I posted a tweet the other day. I want to yesterday, actually.

And I. I want to explain this. I wrote, I was not thrilled by the J.D. Vance placement on the ticket. parenthetically it was because of his peter teal eric schmidt ties right but i didn't say that and i said i was not thrilled by jd vance placed on the ticket by the election it was clear i was wrong it was now clear i was profoundly wrong i was going to bring that up what why did you have this change of mind well first of all in the debate it was clear that he was the guy to destroy bad ideas and then then you you watch him handle margaret brennan and these guys

it's like the left trying to go at ben shapiro or something right it just it he just he eviscerates margaret brennan could not put a glove on him and she looked like such she might have looked so bad she might have gotten herself fired by that interview i don't care margaret i don't want these people in my country i know i know he destroyed her every step of the way in her facial expression she might have gotten fired because of that interview she might have already been headed for the door but that interview might have pushed her over the edge and and so that's why i posted that now i still worry about the peter teal eric schmidt connection but i'm willing to give him a lot of slack if he can do shit like that now the bizarre thing is this this tells you

something about the psyche of people on twitter 45 000 likes now you know twitter you don't get 45 000 likes no that's every day in fact that's my record i think i had a 36 or once and i don't even remember what it was but 45 000 and it's still growing and i scan comments and it seemed to be the mentality was a supporters people who totally agreed with the idea of i didn't like them and now i do and people who love the fact that i confess that i got it dead fucking wrong now it's not exactly a mea culpa right that's not a big but i that that was one of my you know late some night yeah put it out there for the 50 people who actually see the fucking tweet sort of thing and then it's like you know all of a sudden the shark stepped on the lego

right and uh but i would not have predicted that i i just thought i was just doing my usual you know oh i have a thought maybe i should put it on twitter right yeah just a dumb idea right it's like a comedy club i try out a new joke no i i have to admit i was similarly skeptical due to the teal palantir and i still am actually i still am yeah well that's i mean that's i think that's one thing people have to be vigilant about during this administration and it seems like yeah palantir is buddying up and the southern border needs to be secured but i do worry that they're i mean they're pushing for palantir andrew to go down there and they're slowly beginning to seed the narrative with digital id

um oh i know it's so i i absolutely agree is that a bitcoin counter behind you or something what is it yeah block clock okay okay um i i agree um i think i i think those guys are all psychopaths i'm i'm actually pretty close with gates's second in command the guy behind gates but no guy behind balmer guy named steve sanofsky and and i would love to ask steve about gates balmer or stanowski sanofsky um he was president of microsoft windows right that was microsoft so you know so he was the guy he was shadowing gates 14 hours a day for his career he was that guy and um chief of staff sort of like i think would be a way to think about him and but i can't because his wife works for the gates foundation

and i go okay i'm not going there and if somehow steve gets wind of this i'd love to have you tell me but i don't want to ask um the really ridiculous thing is is that i am the only person in contact with him from cornell here's the number three of microsoft and his only contact with cornell is me i'm going you you guys in the development office are blowing this one you know that right a thin thread of a connection you know cornell's most infamous whack job is their is their connection to the number three of microsoft number two of microsoft after gates left and then he left i think he realized bomber wasn't going anywhere and he said fucking i'm out that's my guess i haven't asked yeah and i mean and i see microsoft very close with

open ai nvidia um it's uh well microsoft so so so here's a question is this deep deep six um did the pin just hit a bubble i think potentially is the right answer i think hopefully hopefully maybe whatever what needs to be determined everybody's freaking i've been talking to a lot of people behind the scenes over the last four days about it and mixed reviews and i think what needs to be determined is whether or not it truly cost them 5.6 million dollars to train these models if that is the case uh the bubble the pin could have just hit the bubble um but it's it would be similar to well but the bubble the bubble i'm talking about it's the bigger bubble the asset bubble oh yeah i mean nvidia is holding

up um the stock market and all the nvidia users and all the you know the whole the whole uh vibe of nvidia right it is it is the the you know the it is the nifty fifty it is the well there's two ways like if if um it really costs 5.6 million dollars that's gonna destroy a lot of capital that's already been allocated and maybe it didn't cost them 5.6 million dollars but it becomes apparent that they got access to nvidia chips while china is sanctioned then nvidia could get some shit um from the government which could perturb their business operations and well also there's the whole problem i i guess we this is what we probably talked about but you know they've been vendor financing with like 35 shell companies and stuff yeah yeah that's the other big question

that needs to be answered like how much of this is enron like yeah and i don't think the whole story i don't think it's enron i think enron to the core was fucked up and the global crossing was doing that. So a lot of bankrupt companies, their final blow off top was vendor financed. And Jensen has a nasty record of shenanigans in his past. And so he reminds me of the guy, he not only looks like, but he reminds me of the guy who ran Archegos. That worked really well. um and so um but but once the market started winding they go emergent and so the the the the original pin does not have to be and it's like a big the best analogy is it's it's this gigantic jenga tower it doesn't really matter which piece you pulled out yep and and they

might have just pulled out this big two by four size piece out of the jenga tower yeah we'll see I mean, I was looking at the chart earlier. It's had some some corrections like this on the way up to where to where it was last Friday. Yeah, but the corrections have not been. So today it's well, today it's trying to rally. You don't knock momentum like that down instantaneously. Yeah, right. You have to keep knocking investors on their asses and shit like that.

As of today, it is down. It's up point to one percent. That's not exactly a rally. it was up three percent earlier before we hopped on here that's right so i i posted that that the nasdaq although appears to be headed for an open uh for a flat open uh could become a wild ride today and honestly honestly if you're the trump administration right now it's 1.79 percent in the green so some money money's pounding those shares up hard yeah and and and and um yeah well if i'm the trump admin i sort of want the correction to happen early

because there's gonna be right away there's gonna be a correction at some point and he seems to show evidence that he knows that his biggest mistake would be to try to to pump the market yeah i i think what he should do is if he really wants to change the world and his narcissistic side wants to and also i think he's a better person than a lot of people thought i i think that i think his firepower was underestimated his heart was underestimated his his anti-fragility was ridiculously underestimated that and another thing too like the fact that he went on this podcast tour and i think many people didn't understand this the mainstream media narrative these degenerate philanderer became clear he's never smoked drank done drugs and he's like a

straight edge guy i think many people were unaware of that and sort of showed another side of him on these podcasts and the other thing that over the last eight years slowly but surely stories of the person for which with no fanfare Trump came to their rescue when he didn't have to and he didn't get any press for it the person just said look I was down and out and the only guy to help me was Donald Trump and and and so these stories started surfacing and I don't think it was just a PR campaign um yeah NVIDIA has had a nice rally today NVIDIA NVIDIA yeah it's had a nice rally going from a bottom of 1903 up to 1906. So it's trying to get legs,

but markets don't correct quickly. You know my model. I think we're gonna have, I think it's purely arithmetic that 40 years from now, the market's gonna be right where it is right now. I really believe it's arithmetic. It doesn't require assumptions about GDP going south or anything.

when you are 200 overvalued that represents 200 growth pulled forward over 45 years at 2.5 percent of your growth yeah it takes 45 years to block and tackle your way out of that overvaluation yeah we've i mean again going back to it should happen they should let the market correct quick and fast because there's a window of time where it's like hey this is biden's fault previous administration if that's right if that's exactly right if you hold on to it for six months a year becomes harder to justify it in that way and then like it seems like with scott besant in place particularly he has a wartime treasury secretary has been thinking about bretton woods 2.0 or whatever maybe it's 3.0 i don't know which right yeah i my opinion of

besant is not strong i must admit he's the most uninspired speaker i think i've ever heard right he doesn't he doesn't i don't sit there and go wow that's impressive i he he he but i must admit i sure as fuck didn't like manukin so steve munching butts yeah yeah i haven't heard that one yeah that's his nickname on the show he did not like bitcoin so what's trump doing with bitcoin because i you know the guy is you As someone said, take him seriously, not literally. And so you've got to be very careful about when he says X that he actually is teeing himself up to do Y. And usually, you know, like when he was saying, let's take over Greenland, let's take over Canada, stuff like that.

Now, these stories, there's some merit to them, but they also achieve the goal of getting us to stop talking about his appointments. So it was potentially a great smokescreen. And it might even be a bipartisan smokescreen. I have this theory that we said, look, you guys are going to have to push these through or we're going to crush you. But we'll cover for you by creating a lot of chaos. And while you are getting your ass kicked because our appointments are going through, we'll be talking about Greenland. We'll be talking about Putin. We won't make you suffer.

That wouldn't surprise me. Right. He cut a deal saying, look, you're going to we're going to get these appointments. Now, I even think, for example, when J.D. Vance had to be a tiebreaker at Hegseth, I believe the whole thing was orchestrated that way. I think that was the coronation of J.D. Vance. And I don't think that the people from the Republican Party who voted no would have voted no if it meant the appointment didn't go through. yeah so sort of like we'll make this one look close so it seems like you're putting up some kind of a fight that's right that's right and you know we'll throw mcconnell under the bus

because he's such a douchebag and he's completely losing his mind can't even yeah i mean he's almost out of here and oftentimes they'll say okay this person's not going to get primaried or unelected no matter what let them vote no they're bulletproof yeah and so i i think the tiebreaker totally preordained i want to shock me no that's trump yeah right that's trump the art of the deal did you notice in this california um press conference did you notice his hat no said maga it was black you ever seen him wear a black maga hat elon made that was like the big thing elon was the one who made that one popular right during the uh campaign wow look at this black bag a hat elon designed that himself well what's really important though is it's not red no which

means trump's saying this is not about red versus blue that's a savvy move the subliminal message is i'm no longer maga red i'm just maga yeah red was my my vehicle to get here right to be able to fix these problems he's an extraordinary guy as tucker said he's the most extraordinary individual he's ever met although i might be confusing him with alex jones whose stock has gone way up too i should add right i mean he's getting in shape jacked alex jones is he looks ozempic-y to me i don't know i i the ozempic story is going to turn out to be a nightmare i predict oh you just had one famous singer come out and say she got osteoporosis from taking it and warning all of her friends i don't think you invade the system that way

and by the way giving ozempic to a fat fuck of a little kid without changing his personal habits what you're doing is you're taking what the geneticists would call phenotype the outward appearance you're changing the appearance without changing the health that's saying look if you're skinny you're healthy if you're fat you're not it's like no You're not healthy because you got fat because you ate like shit and you're not exercise, right? That's what makes you fucking unhealthy. When it comes to Ozempic, I just left side of the bell curve it.

There's no such thing as free lunch. That's exactly right. So I said to Brett Weinstein in a DM, I said, I said, they're going to, that's going to be a fucking disaster and they're going to have to pull it. And he said, I agree only with half of what you say. They're not going to pull it. And I go, oh, fuck. they still haven't pulled the jabs so well here's one for you here's a historical point um thalidomide

which was not a hard one to spot right when the kids come out doing this you know that there's a subtle it's a subtle that's like oh that's not like autism that that's that's a big one um so thalidomide which transformed organic chemistry it turns out um because they had to find better ways to make drugs after that um it was released in 59 it was had generated enough signal to be detected in 61 which you go nine months later a couple of fuck-ups all of a sudden we're going wait a minute we're getting flippers out of these women what's going on right so 61 signal shows up They pulled it in 69. That's a long time to watch the flippered kids coming out of the birth canal.

Yeah, full decade. Yeah. And there's a lot, again, it comes back to money, too. There's a ton of money behind Ozempic, Wigabi. Oh, yeah. But I believe, yeah, Ozempic Eyes, the POW look. Yeah, the Ozempic face, you get the droopy. Well, that's because it causes muscle atrophy.

So we're going to have Ozempic heart attacks in my write-up. It costs $1,200. I showed a picture of this wallet. I said, you're going to have Ozempic wallet. So, yeah, Ozempic is going to be a truly disastrous chapter, I think. I think it's going to be. Well, then you have a lot of the health influencers really pushing this peptide, GLP, whatever it's called. They're really putting the narrative behind them.

These are good for you. I've talked to somebody about a Zempik Mongero-Wagovi and talking about, like, a Zempik face and the fact that it's paralyzing people's stomach. And is it something that needs to be pulled? How can that possibly be good? Yeah. And the response I got was, yes, it's not good,

but they're just giving them too much of these peptides or the GLP-1s, whatever they're called. and that's like saying that the vaccine actually doesn't stop it but it makes it less harmful and i go yeah you're rewriting your plot now yeah um uh cheryl atkinson's book um follow the science is a very good book in case you want one um the other one i like to recommend books because i wade through a lot of them and there's a lot that are not worth wading through i try to pick them carefully the other one is the indispensable right by jonathan turley um which is a riveting story about battle for free speech over the the centuries

and it's astonishing things decisions made by the supreme court that you cannot imagine they made like some guy passing out leaflets opposing world war one he gets thrown in jail and the court says yeah sure throw him in jail it's like what have we won have we won the battle for free speech i guess that's he says it oscillates yeah he says during bad during hard during dangerous times free speech gets stepped down and during good times it relaxes he said now here's the problem in his um interviews he does he hasn't done like a book tour in my opinion i haven't noticed book tour flavor uh but in the interviews he's done since the book was released um he sounds pessimistic he says i'm not sure now post inauguration he might be going oh i have changed my opinion on

that right i i how could you not be optimistic now here's what scares me about the election this this this is something to be worried about um trump has completely reconstructed the u.s presidency yeah the executive order is something that we have to be worried about and so at some point the other team will have the ball and when 200 when 200 executive orders are coming out at newsome i'm going to be on suicide watch yeah and so so um i don't think it's a great precedent i think it was potentially required but but now without great risk i mean this is pandora's box that obama opened and we i've been talking about it on my other show we've been talking about it for seven years back during trump's first presidency where it's like yeah we

all like the the outcomes the executive orders but the the mechanism itself is going to be abused and we've just seen there's no way to create stability um across the decades especially if you're ping-ponging between red and blue and then the question is how does this all dovetail with And I can't make a good connection yet with the Chevron deference case that basically said that the administrative state can't do shit just because the law is ambiguous. And that dinner I had with the FEMA lady, her husband knew about that. And he didn't mention much in the talk he gave. He mentioned it in passing. I said, that's the most important Supreme Court decision in my lifetime.

why did you brush past it he says we're watching we're waiting and watching so in theory all the regulations all the way up through the irs and all sorts are potentially unconstitutional and we won't what's he watching for people to sue these agencies well he's watching to see how this decision plays out yeah yeah it's going to start things are going to start working through the court and i believe this i i don't even know what to call it chevron deference i call it but i i never know whether they're referring to the case in 84 where they they gave the authoritarian state power or whether the chevron deference refers to the modern case i i don't even know i wrote about it i forget but basically it neutered in theory it neutered a vast percentage of the

administrative state yeah that's been forgotten my understanding not forgot my understanding it's just like what's really gonna what it's gonna take to show the validity and veracity of that ruling is one of these agencies gonna take years because it takes a while for anything to go through any court yeah one of these agencies gonna have to ding somebody with a fine or something or prevent them from doing something they're gonna sue win and then it's gonna be obvious just don't do this so one of my students went to harvard law school after getting his phd you want to talk about writing yourself a personal paycheck get a phd in organic chemistry and go to harvard law school he used to make he was a summer intern while in law school and he'd make 50 60 000 bucks

in the summer and um and uh he says that um citizens united is viewed within the within the halls of power at Harvard to be the worst decision made. The idea that money is free speech because it opened the gates to huge amounts. They could find a way to reverse it. I read a couple books on the Bill of Rights, and they do reverse decisions. But that one should be reversed, in my opinion in some way and then um and he said that that courses and cases in the supreme court are teed up by the court so there'll be a case presented to them like someone did something to some gay guy and the supreme court will not take it but they'll say this is what the case is missing and it's something like where if we decide on this it's going to be sort of an unclean decision

so so he think he said for example the guys who were uh who who denied making a gay wedding cake for the gay couple he said yeah he said that case was probably headed for the supreme court before the guy denied them the right to a cake that whole thing was teed up they found the right baker they found the right gay guys and they put them together and then they made and and then it worked its way towards towards the supreme court that's how they do it they they tell you this is why your case is not clean enough for us to take and then they go out and look for one where it is Now, there was a famous one, which I can't remember the outcome, but there's a funny story where it set huge precedent. I wish I could remember which one it was.

And then they found the draft of the Supreme Court justice, the guy who wrote the major opinion, supportive opinion. And he had written in the margin, this should not be viewed as precedence. and somehow his clerk which by the way are elite lawyers clerk is a misnomer right these are people go on to be professors at harvard and stuff right these are these are sharp guys somehow left that part out now one can't help but wonder if it was done on purpose well i don't understand how if there is a ruling you can just wave away precedence by writing well but what they can say is that they can put in the way he says this is a very specialized case okay like for example when they had a rule on the chads right and things like that they do not want to send

sometimes they just have to rule to straighten out a problem and and then want to say now a famous quote by a former supreme court justice um when he was a judge he ruled against the guy not guilty he says i'm finding you not guilty then he says but don't do that again yeah so the courts have a lot of slack i mean there's just a lot of slopping and i'm i'm sure we're breaking some i'm sure we're breaking some serious laws deporting guys right already you think so yeah i'm guessing that there's i'm guessing that somehow they're not using well they're not getting warrants and i'm guessing they're they're going in

like they're they're jackbooting their way through some of this yeah i mean they're in new york city today just running well by the way they also have a list of guys who they know were criminals who they know biden released so you can bet they're raiding those bastards yeah yeah the um let's see like how many are they actually going to be able to deport and what is the left saying the left is saying um this is going to cost too much money it's never been a problem before you guys you guys i again if i were a left winger it would be zip a time i'd be going oh i am not doing any podcast this week i i they're just they're so fucking stupid they're so blinded by their by their by completely failing to read the room well

and by the way i'm i'm being rude i gotta get coffee yeah coffee keep talking you can hear me but their failure to recognize that they've lost and show if you look here carefully you can see that i should take ozempic stay away but that's the question like is this an opportunity for right-leaning the the right to dominate for two terms three terms i mean people talking about like three terms i think potentially um i'll tell you if we know who the odds-on favorite candidate is for 2028 right now now that can change but if you're not sitting there looking at jd vance going holy fuck i want that guy in 2028 you're not paying attention no and uh no he's so articulate and i mean the story is inspiring the fact that

it is inspiring it is even if peter teal's pulling all the strings it's still inspiring i guess that's the question is peter teal pulling all of his strings and eric schmidt i haven't heard about the eric schmidt connection oh suppose it's tln schmidt who funded him right out of yale it was um they picked two it was like him and blake masters that they put their money behind well i oh god i haven't thought about blake masters in so long i it's just a vague memory um yeah i don't trust teal did you watch the rogan interview uh yeah it was very entertaining and whether it's teal musk mark andreessen like when the guys talk like that were there and treason was amazing he he wasn't just chatting he was dropping bombs on purpose and

he was talking his book too that's that's one thing i think he was definitely talking his book but he was dropping truth bombs on purpose that that wasn't just oh boy i didn't see that coming he knew what he wanted to say that day and that debanking story that debanking story was was had to be released oh well i i mean it affected uh the companies that were invested in uh very cute but it had it had to be shown you know level of authoritarianism forget about the bitcoiners just the idea that anyone could be debanked well i mean i think the silver bullet in the story and it does seem like cynthia lemus is tweeting out there's going to be a senate banking committee hearing on operation chokepoint 2.0 the smoking gun what's going to uncover all this and really

um unearth the malfeasance at the fdic the sec elizabeth warren that whole crew is silvergate silvergate was completely solvent they returned every deposit that was ever put in that bank they structured their balance sheet in a way where they had uh an immense amount of short term that was one of the three that went down all in rapid fire yeah so silvergate was first was that just a takedown then it was a takedown it was a takedown oh i wondered how they stopped the cascade you're describing something where it was just a it was just a mug they took they took on a multi-billion dollar bank run and we're facilitating it getting all the money back to depositors and the fdic he just decided to take them in the receivership.

Well, I remember when Jamie Diamond said, your deposits are safe with us. And I go, there's nothing more reckless than saying that. Yeah. That struck me as so odd that I couldn't fathom why the hell he would say that. Yeah. Silvergate is a smoking gun.

Because even after they got sent in the receivership, they returned all the money to depositors. Nobody lost a dime. They didn't need to bail out. Sort of like Trump's loans with Mar-a-Lago as capital. Yeah. right as as collateral yeah um let's let me bring up a topic that i end up in podcasts with guys luongo for example and he knows so much more about global shit than i do um

he and i was on a zoom call yesterday with alex craner who gives a brilliant talk about ukraine here's the part i that you should have you had alex craner on i don't think i've had alex on but i think i've heard him on tom's pocket he's the british guy right he's croatian or something he's he's he's a euro anchor and he gave a talk about um about about ukraine and the part that i had not heard i knew the whole putin kept saying look you can't have ukraine he wasn't saying i gotta have it he's saying you can't have it right the ukraine story is a nightmare of propaganda. But what Alex pointed out is that early on, the EU basically approached Ukraine and said, we want you to come into Ukraine, but here's what you have to do. And it was

a pathetically awful deal. It was like we would do to some banana republic down in South America or something where we'd say, privatize all your business, give up this, give up this, give up this. You're a vassal state of the EU. And Ukraine said, fuck that. And Putin's like, no, that no we won't do that to you so putin just said no we're not gonna fuck you like the eu just tried to fuck you and then you know victoria newland and at all the douchebags of the century started arming the azoff nazis and shit like that and so um so in any event um i was heading somewhere with that fucking thing um tom luongo trainer oh oh tom traces all the all the stuff and alex supported him yesterday when i kind of challenged him um he traces it to the london

bankers and i keep going you know the uk is a pathetic shell of a former empire so so i'm i'm not sure what the london bankers are does that just mean guys who happen to have headquarters in london but they're not london bankers i'm not do you know this story and you can you explain this to me i've been yeah i've been having ongoing conversation with tom for years on the subject he thinks it's like mi6 royal family i don't know if the royal family's involved but like he thinks like intelligence between having sex with children those guys um i mean his whole theory which i'm sure you're privy to most of it like he thinks that jerome powell u.s commercial banks have been engaged is the yanks versus london yes and london is really the the core of the world economic forum

in that communist policy right right and i mean it's pretty compelling when he's like if you look at the moves that have been made at the federal reserve over the last eight years whatever it may be and all the qe shit they yeah started with they bailed out europe like crazy started with changing the reference rate from liber to sofa to sort of take control out of interest rate manipulation from the london banks and then the higher the rate hikes very quickly holding them higher for longer where my brain cramps is i'm sitting there thinking well then why isn't if it's london or london like the vatican at this point yeah you're gonna have to ask your club of rome friend he may have better insight into this i don't know oh that's interesting i hadn't

thought of that yeah um yeah um okay i don't because i can't give you much clarity on it i know you know i just i keep i'm just i've not been able to wrap my brain around how a country that looks pathetic is running the world yeah there's like you said earlier there's a chasm between like things that you can see are visible in the end conclusion that i haven't been able right get over um so i went down the rabbit hole of of the revised history of world war ii oh that's a big one that is a big one i gave a 20 minute talk in the revised history of world war ii how do you do that in 20 minutes is the question 30 minutes um and it was triggered and and what's what's relevant about it is is that world war ii is part of our origin story

if you do high water marks founding fathers world war ii end of tyranny part of american mythology i convinced myself that the world war ii narrative is full of shit yeah we saw daryl cooper martyr made get absolutely rolled across the coals for going on tucker and calling calling out winston churchill and i'm not sure about churchill so the the reading i did did not drag churchill into the muck but it started with a book i copy edited for ben steel the battle of breton woods so I read it really the reason I copy edited it the reason I say copy edit because I read it really carefully and um and turns out Harry Dexter White the guy who battled John Maynard Keynes was a Soviet spy now it's a little vague he was giving information to the Russians

but whether it was because he was loyal to the Russians or he thought that was in the best interest of the United States is unclear now then my brother says you ought to read this great book I'm reading called American Betrayal by Diana West. Diana dug into this without intention of unraveling shit. And she used to be on Lou Dobbs twice a week and stuff. She was very prominent. And her conclusion was that a couple of critical things. One is that Stalin completely controlled the flow of World War II. He completely controlled the flow of World War II. One of the ways he did it is FDR's right-hand man a guy named Harry Hopkins was a Soviet spy in the purest sense that everything that he told and he was FDR's right-hand man they used to joke about how he

was the acting president kind of like Blinken or something like that right so every decision FDR made was pro-Stalin including where to drop him on Normandy and all this shit so Stalin's master plan appeared to be to get all the european countries in america and japan and i wanted to kill each other and he got us into the war with japan he got japan to attack so that so that so that so that he would not have to worry about japan being on its flank and and then he he the war could have ended but he didn't want it to because he wanted germany and france and england all those countries to just wipe each other out and drag everything down to italy with miscellany that's right and so then the question is who won world war ii that question is not who beat

the germans that question is who won world war ii undeniably stalin he got half of europe and the soviet communist sort of right mind virus has spread throughout the world over the last That's right. And so Stalin got what Stalin wanted. And then, so I'm having these semi-visible chats with Diana. She happens, this is one of these odd stories. She happens to mention a guy who was in my Zoom group named Stephen Coughlin, who was the Pentagon's goat on radical Islam. he was the man and he was in my doctor zoom group and i gotta confess he said shit that was so sort of deeply meaningful to me and and and it just changed the way i think about the world just these little subtle hints that he put out and um and she mentioned him in the book and so i reached out to steven said steven you know diana west did you read american betrayal are they both credible he said oh oh my god yes they're both incredible and he said she had to go into hiding after she

wrote it and then she wrote an epilogue and and then I set up a I don't even know if I set it up or Mike set up he just spotted it I think he spotted us talking and he he set up a three-way between Diana me and Mike and then for like an hour and a half or two hours or three hours we talked about her worldview and and for example stalin was not our ally we might have been fighting hitler together but he was not our ally he gave us nothing he gave he in no way in any way compromised on any point with us so an american pilot would go down in russia territory straight to the gulag really yes american soldiers found themselves in russian territory straight to the gulags the end of the

war we had an estimated 15 to 20 000 guys we left in the gulags for decades i never knew this i didn't either for decades rumors of americans inside soviet gulags just kept surfacing oh yeah there were americans in tons of them and and i asked her why didn't we get them back and she said Well, in part because Stalin didn't give a shit about getting anything for himself. He didn't care about trading. Russians, the program to send Soviet soldiers back to Russia at the end of the war was named,

you're not going to believe this, Operation Keelhaul. That's kind of a warning that maybe it's not the best thing. Russian soldiers were committing suicide to avoid going back to Soviet Union because they thought that Stalin would send them straight to a gulag. I mean, they're all used as cannon fodder during the war anyway. Well, he also killed 40 million.

He killed 40 million people before the war started in his own country. Yeah. I mean, he was just sick beyond comprehension. And he knew about Pearl Harbor. We knew about Pearl Harbor. We knew to the day when Pearl Harbor was going to get attacked. I chased that down. Turns out I chased FDR down.

FDR was such a psychopath. path. He was not just a lefty with big government on his brain. Every penny he spent during the Great Depression was to buy votes. If you weren't on his team, you didn't get any money. And all the shit he did during that, we know the shit he did during the Depression didn't help. But it was all just grift. It was Biden levels of grift on huge scale. His right hand man, Morgenthau, got to the end and said we've taken on huge debt we've got nothing to show for it yeah and the vestiges of the those policies still live on to this day well every time someone wants to do big government shit they they cite fdr yeah fdr was a compulsive psychopathic liar

his inner circle was constantly covering for the fact that he'd say shit and then he'd say well fuck you i don't care yeah and and so fdr really was arguably by far and this is not about his left right politics he was just the worst president although biden's giving him a good run for the money well biden wasn't really the president right that's true too um so in any event so so i'm having this these chats with diana and a guy named sean mcmeekin reaches out and says and i didn't notice i had gotten emails from him years earlier he says now you have to read stalin's war Who wrote that? Sean McMeekin. Now, that's an even bigger book, and it tells the same story. You know, we gave the Brits the Lend-Lease Program, right? So the first hint that our

best friends, helping them in every way we can, came out of Ben Steele's book, Battle of Bretton Woods, where he pointed out that we bent Britain over and fucked them like dogs in the Lend-Lease program. The deals we cut fucked them like dogs. Now, what McMeekin points out is we gave the Russians about 20 times more stuff than we gave the Brits. Interesting. The Russian army was incompetent. We buried them in armaments. We sent millions of tons of the war is over we kept sending them shit which basically funded their superpower status after the war this this and i and the problem is so so so diana had to go into hiding essentially one of the book there's one guy i mentioned her in the podcast about the soviet archives

which always troubled me and she said well that's a fiction i go it had to be because they probably had a billion pages no one went through the billion pages right and she and and then i and i also realized i said that's because the soviet leaders are still alive and they didn't want them open and the americans who were the focus of the archives they didn't want them open and so they just got buttoned down now one guy named bukowski got in with there in in in the early 90s with this revolutionary technique of having a hand scanner sounds like an iphone doesn't it and he got some information but it was just trivial amounts but he was the best source of that and then i find a book report about diana's book from bukowski saying it's a brilliant

book i go oh wow that's a plot thickener so in any case that was a chapter i wrote about it was really the message being there is no narrative that you can take at face value ever the world's a grand stage and and that's where for example which again i have largely a gag order in israel gaza the reason i do is because i have i don't have any mechanism to understand what's going on in israel gaza that's i just there's just no way for me to know what i do know is is that if you think you understand what happened on october 7th you're delusional i'm sure it should happen but if you think you you know what happened you're out of your mind yeah very odd very odd the most secure border in the world and

yeah that chick have you interviewed effringston effringston i haven't interviewed her but i've met her before she's uh she's big in the bitcoin scene she's awesome well well you should interview her she's got ovaries the size of cantaloupes yeah she's awesome yeah i've told her a couple times i said you're you're a heroic figure for no other reason just the guts that she has yeah and uh why is whitney webb drawing fire people think she's i mean if you she's drawing fire now because there's people on the right who think this incoming trump admin um is a big win that people care about freedom need to in free speech need to be supporting and she's attacking yeah and they're attacking her for being a quote-unquote black

pillar and um i i think whitney is i think he's trying to get it right all the time yeah like the palantir stuff is what she's focused on and i think right and that's and that fucks up part of the narrative yeah and i think it's very well merited i'm going to catch up with whitney soon on the show you should you shouldn't say hi um candace owens she said at one point she wanted to be president now she's gone down these very dark paths yeah and what i'm going to write about is um i am now confident at double digit percentage levels of confidence meaning somebody 10 and 99 right um that kamala harris was an mk ultra product right i'm now reasonably convinced that that story is at least um credible enough to consider i mean yeah you just go back to her

has truth it was a willie what's his last name um brown willie brown i almost said well well but mixing him up with seth green um well what's also true is is that what what candace has been able to do is track down that that picture of her with her uncle that's not her uncle picture of her with that her aunt that's not her aunt and her mother was not a cupcake her mother was an authoritarian who had a position at mcgill and her dad was an overt marxist right right yeah but a position at mcgill we go what'd they do at mcgill they did mk ultra yeah and and uh and and then when i'm on a podcast with consular and he mentions a woman named elizabeth nixon who was time magazine's european head i mean she was not small at one point i think she was life

magazines us had and in the middle of his podcast so i'm on the podcast like two days after he interviewed her it's spelled n-i-c-k-s-o-n i'm on with him and he he brings up her name and then he starts talking about how all of a sudden out of the blue she says her mother was a victim of mk ultra and and and and he said in canada i said yeah mcgill and he said how'd you know i go because that's where they did it right she quit her job and studied mk ultra for three years that's a dark rabbit hole yeah well she also said kamala has all the traits yeah and and i had been pondering it but i didn't study mk ultra non-stop for three years likes to booze many people multiple personalities multiple personalities inability she said she

has she has no ability to access her intellect remember when the the teleprompter went off remember when the teleprompter went off yeah and she froze and and she froze and she became like a robot with a short circuit yeah and i remember thinking that was weird because you and i could have ad-libbed that one yeah especially like in the context you're campaigning just say the most broad statement. Just start babbling. Trump has made a lifetime of that, right? But she was like, what was it?

32, 32, 32. Someone nicknamed her Kamala 32, 32, 32 Harris. I think it's possible we almost had an MK ultra Manchurian candidate. That would not have been fun. Well, and she scared me more than Biden. How much research have you done on this? on what pamala mk ultra uh not a ton okay but but it's enough now where i'm going okay now i'm gonna do it i write my way to wisdom when i can the um all right can we pick that up next show

because i've got somebody coming in here in four minutes um no problem i've got my three o'clock zoom today so i should probably recharge and my brother just called let me know let me know how goes with the clipper room guy right so by the way i still have the markets at 200 over historical average valuation which means we're completely fucked there's no way around it are you gonna you're gonna tell people to buy bitcoin yet uh not yet what i'm gonna do is i'm gonna tell them when i buy bitcoin and and you guys have to get through the next big non-bitcoin global downturn could be upon us i'm gonna be watching how bitcoin behaves under those conditions i also think by the way and this will piss off your audience i believe that the bottom for bitcoin some next big low that

that if you survive that low will include michael saylor being completely illiquid we can talk about that another time it's gonna be very hard okay okay adios thank you dave peace and love freaks Thank you.