TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #603: MAHA Is Trying To Sweep Covid Under The Rug with Dr. Mary Talley Bowden

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

Marty sits down with Dr. Mary Bowden to discuss Covid vaccine injustice. Dr. Bowden on Twitter: https://x.com/MdBreathe Dr. Bowden's website: https://breathemd.org/ 0:00 - Intro 0:26 - MAHA is shifting away from Covid justice 5:30 - Why vax should be pulled 11:21 - Fold & Coinkite 12:59 - Japan vax death study 16:07 - MDs have lost trust 20:16 - Ivermectin over the counter & and rebranding 24:57 - Unchained Event 25:22 - Should the FDA exist? 32:18 - Escaping corporate medicine 38:10 - Texas is turning blue 48:09 - Texas healthcare and censorship Shoutout to our sponsors: Fold https://tftc.io/fold Coinkite https://coinkite.com Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/

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It's been a busy morning for you, I expect. Yeah. Started my day with a summons. It's a first. Is that in relation to the ongoing trial with the medical board? Yes. So they were awarded summary judgment, which basically means that the judges looked at the evidence, denied me a hearing and decided I was guilty. And so now I get to appear before them on Zoom because they are still in pandemic mode.

Nothing is done in person anymore to determine my punishment. and is there is that the final sort of judgment is there an appeal process well i'm going to appeal i mean this this was through a state office of administrative hearing which in 90 95 percent of the time they side with the government so it's not it's supposed to be fair but i don't think it's fair no neither do i especially in 2025 with all the information we have and that's why i wanted to have you on is because i i think with this incoming administration um the trump administration obviously reached over the aisle brought bobby kennedy into the administration running on this maha movement which has really shifted

towards preventative health but i was highly encouraged at the beginning of the maha movement particularly to get some sort of justice as it pertains to what i would consider crime against humanity that were levied on society from 2020 on whether it was the economic lockdowns the prevention of enabling doctors like yourself to to give preventative medicines like ivermectin hydroxychloroquine and then obviously the vaccine rollout which i was highly skeptical of in the beginning and just have i'm not even skeptical anymore i think the data is pretty clear that this is something that should not be on the market and the fact that you're having to go through what you're going through personally considering where public sentiment is is is

mind boggling to me. Yeah, it's discouraging. But I look at this as a war. I mean, COVID is a bioweapon. The pandemic was a war. And we're five years into the war. I guess my biggest concern is we don't have a treaty. And the current administration seems to be sweeping the war under the rug. I mean, this is a topic that directly impacted every single American. So we just must keep talking and must keep fighting yeah and it's funny because callie means was blowing up on x yesterday for his fireside chat i guess you will at some politico event it seemed like in the room of big pharma lobbyists but the topic of the conversation was about um the cuts that have been made recently at the fda the nih and other agencies in the federal

government um and it seems like they're again the shift of maha has become more like preventative fix the food we need to make sure the kids and individuals don't need medicine ultimately because they have good health in the first place and and like you said the conversation the big elephant in the room about vaccines has been completely swept under the rug do you have any sort of thoughts on why that is well everybody assured me we just need to get trump into office we just need to get kennedy appointed and then we'll start talking about the elephant in the room but unfortunately that has not happened and in my opinion it's purposeful it's a misdirection strategy. It's, you know, it could possibly be funded by big pharma to, you know, focus

everybody's attention on processed foods. And yeah, I am not against that message. And I have told the interested parties that I'm not spoken to Cali about this directly. I support their message, but they will not support ours. I mean, Cali means will not go on record to state that the COVID shot should be off the market. And I've had oral, I've had written conversations with him and I just find that mind boggling. And the only explanation at this point is it's purposeful. Yeah. And if you had to put forth the argument for why it should be removed from the market, what would that be? I've never seen anything like this with any other product on the market. I mean, If this were a new antibiotic that had been rolled out and I'd seen the sort of injuries

that I've seen with these COVID shots, I mean, it would have been yanked off a long time ago. It's all risk, no benefit. We have very effective early treatment. We're basically vaccinating a cold at this point. I'm seeing very concerning lab numbers. So I'm checking spike protein antibody levels in patients who asked to get checked. And it's very obvious to me who's gotten the shots and who hasn't, because the antibody levels are sky high in these patients.

And they haven't had a shot in years. And antibodies are supposed to wane with time. That's normally what happens. And then, you know, they'll stabilize, but they don't remain. I'm seeing 25,000, which is crazy. And in somebody that hasn't been vaccinated, it's typically under a thousand. That's very concerning. And it suggests that the spike protein is still active in the body, either just never

went away or it's still being produced. And then, you know, they have they expect all babies, all babies to get three mRNA shots by the time they're nine months old. It's still under EUA status for children under 12. We don't know the long-term implications of vaccinating children who their cells are rapidly dividing as they are growing. And we have suspicions that these shots could be causing cancer. So it's alarming. And, you know, the FDA typically will put a black box warning on a medication after five deaths.

It will pull the product after 50 deaths. Well, according to VAERS, we have over 38,000 deaths attributed to these shots, and we know VAERS is a gross underestimation of what's really going on. This is, I mean, it's such a problem for me personally. I have two boys right now, five and almost three, and my wife's pregnant with our third. And this is a big conversation we're having in the household right now, which is our oldest is getting ready to go to kindergarten. You have all these EUA mandates and we're having to have the hard conversation of of what are we going to do? And when it comes to the covid shot specifically, it's like they're not getting it. um and it's really unfortunate that the government and big pharma the federal agencies associated

with health um for some reason or another do not want to confront this and are forcing uh parents to they're forcing undue stress on on parents throughout the country and throughout the world where where these mandates still exist in other places as well yeah i'm curious is your pediatrician pushing them no we're we're um we have a a private a private pediatrician that we pay like a monthly due to similar to to your setup um we were very early to get on that train because we we recognized that when we when we had our second child down here in texas our first was born in new york um uh the ob like leading up before our second was even born was was already talking about the schedule and what was happening

and we just didn't feel comfortable with it went and found a private practice that's good you're fortunate because uh you know the nine million american children have gotten the latest version of the shot nine million it's hard to believe it is and and like you said the you're seeing the antibody levels at 25 000 and people that haven't had the shot it's been years since they've had the shot and that's i think that's the scariest thing is the the unknown long-term consequences of this right now we're three to four years post the first wave of the shots and i think many people got the first two and then you had a precipitous fall off and the amount of people decide to keep getting the boosters and so if you're seeing people who got two shots maybe three

for with these antibody levels three to four years after the fact like is there the potential that just continues into perpetuity well definitely i mean i think you know if you haven't had a shot in four years and your antibody levels are 25 000 that just doesn't make sense um but you The NIH, it's their job to fix this, to look into it, to figure out what's going on, and to find an antidote. I mean, that's what's frustrating is there are a handful of doctors, and I'm one of them, trying to help the injured. And there's just not enough research. There's not enough resources for doctors like myself. we are you know we just don't have enough information and i you know had the best luck

with ivermectin but even you know there's it's expensive for patients too and you're you're basically just trying a variety of things and hoping some things will work and usually you can get some improvements but it's uh some some of these patients are incredibly challenging and their lives have been destroyed. So we really need the NIH to step up. What's up, freaks? Do you have a credit card? Are you getting cash back or airline points or points for some other service? Guess what? Those are shit coins. You want to be stacking Bitcoin. I have some groundbreaking news for you. The team at Fold has finally released the Bitcoin Rewards credit card. They have a wait list. They're going to be distributing

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that came out of japan that was swiftly pulled from uh the publisher after our discussion about the um distribution the change in the distribution of cancer types in individuals in japan after the vaccine rollout in 2021 and i think that to me was some signal that people should be highlighting and saying hey something something happened here in recent years where you have a normal distribution of the types of cancer that existed before 2021 and that has shifted since then and oh by the way the the cancers that are beginning to increase in frequency are in parts of the body where it seems like this spike protein is congregating right yeah i would be interested i did not even see that studies uh so it was wiped is that is that what you're saying

and just did they give a reason or they just said it's just and that was recent it was wiped two months ago we recorded with kevin i believe beginning of the year and um yeah it was a it was a pre-print pre-print there we go i was gonna say preliminary but it was a pre-print it had been peer reviewed um and it got wiped and that and that highlights another sort of problem of this interweb interwoven web of of corruption you have big pharma with their incentives you have the government um with a lot of people a big pharma planted in important places and then the whole research side of things where i think that's what kevin and i have discussed in our multiple conversations over the last year is this corruption of the research and the inability of

people to get access to quality data because there are political reasons or political sort of incentive incentives that exist in that arena as well that that really don't allow information that the government doesn't want out there to actually see the light yeah i i've been trying i i've been hearing about a bunch of pancreatic cancers um and you know just friends family that sort of thing and tried to find like the most recent data on pancreatic cancer and couldn't and um when you go to the american cancer society's website they have this nice graph showing you know this huge drop in cancer death from cancer and then it stops in 2022 and there's nothing and i find that interesting like why that graph stop um why you know there i think you can get the cancer data

but to to lay it out nicely so it's easy to interpret is purposely difficult and bringing this back to what happened earlier this week with the i don't want to say decimation but the the cuts at the fda the nih um do you think that's a move in the right direction get get the people because that's the other thing fda specifically you have people in the fda that that revolving door to big pharma exists and is that something that you think is a good signal that they're trying to get the the bad actors with corrupt detectives out of the agencies and after that point you can begin to actually make structural change and begin having this conversation definitely i mean i kind of thought they'd start from scratch i'm actually surprised

you know it's been so controversial that they would be firing people i just uh i don't obviously know much about the political process and how that works but i yeah i was actually surprised that they would even consider keeping anybody from uh the agencies in the prior administration i mean It's as corrupt as it's ever been, in my opinion. Yeah, and it's crazy how quickly the amnesia set in about what happened between 2020 and I would say 2022 specifically. The traumatization of the economic lockdowns, the inability to have early treatment and the taking away bodily autonomy from the government. And I think it's insane how quickly people have moved on. And today, the big topic in the news is tariffs.

And there are certainly larger issues that exist outside of the realm of the pandemic and the reaction to the pandemic from the FDA and the medical establishment. But this is not something that we can simply gloss over and brush under the rug Because, again, as you as you mentioned, the ramifications of what took place are are still manifesting today. And it's not it doesn't seem like something where you can just put your head in the sand and brush it under the rug. If we continue on this path, like how if we continue on this path, how bad do you think it can get? Well, the biggest issue I see in my practice is the lack of trust. So people are terrified to go to the hospitals. They don't trust any doctors. And with good reason, unfortunately. And so if the government wants to help restore that trust, then we can't sweep it under the rug. It's just like a festering wound and we ignore it. It's just going to get worse.

And so we need transparency. We need accountability. In my opinion, we need a constitutional amendment to protect bodily autonomy. And there are a lot of states working on this and it's been a big struggle. I mean, you would think it's common sense, right, that you can't mandate anything that on a person that has a risk, right, that there's a risk that you can't force somebody to undergo any sort of medical treatment or medical procedure. That's that's pretty basic and common sense. And yet that was violated during the pandemic. And, you know, by not stopping them, by just pretending it didn't happen, we just emboldened them. And there will most likely be another pandemic, hopefully not any time in the near future. But we just emboldened them by doing nothing. So we need, you know, if it were up to me, there would be a constitutional amendment. And apparently, I looked into this, there have been 11,000 amendments proposed and only 27 have passed.

So it's a big endeavor. But we need that. We need the mRNA shots to be pulled off the market and we need to make ivermectin over the counter. Well, on that last point, it seems like there's been some progress at the state level, at least to make ivermectin available over the counter. I think I saw you tweeting Idaho is moving a bill through their state legislature. to make this possible yeah there are 14 states that have bills that are under consideration and arkansas recently passed a bill tennessee already passed it in 2022 and there are nuances so it's going to be hard to put the medication next to the tylenol bottles in these instances

you do have to get it from a pharmacist but you don't have to get a prescription from the doctor so it's it's you know it's not as easily accessible as i would like and the only way to make that happen is is the fda would make it over the counter then it could you could put it on the shelf next to tylenol but this is the next best step so the people in tennessee do are able to access the medication more easily than the people in texas and i still have problems getting ivermectin for my patients and i don't i just don't bother sending the prescription to walgreens or cds anymore because of all the pushback i've gotten so i send it to an independent pharmacy which is fine but it's not covered by insurance they're not open on weekends usually uh creates

extra steps for me because i have to you know enter in a new pharmacy and um it's just unnecessary i mean this drug is safer than tylenol well that's i've heard so many anecdotal stories outside of covid i mean i took ivermectin um in 2021 i got i got covid i got i got i think the delta variant was that one that was the bad one i got that pretty bad um in the first couple days um were hard i got my hands on ivermectin had to go to a mom and pop pharmacy in south new jersey where i was at the time to get it but within a couple days i was back on my feet feeling good and for covid it seems obvious to me that was working for many people but then you hear about these use cases it was it's been described as a miracle drug i have a friend who had

um really bad acne breakout on his face and it persisted for years and he tried everything in the book to um to make it go away and then one day he had a conversation with the doctor so why don't we try ivermectin took ivermectin within a month his face was completely clear and so the the sort of range of things that ivermectin seems to treat seems pretty broad and seems like it'd be something that we would want to have um easy access to as uh as individuals that are looking take care of these ailments that again are broad this may be a stretch but it's probably easier to access vicodin than it is ivermectin in most states um so yeah it's pretty crazy it has 21 mechanisms of action a lot of anti-inflammatory mechanisms of action and it has virtually no

side effects so it really is a miracle drug and yeah it would be wonderful to see some states lead the way and make it over the counter yeah and is it simply because big pharma can't make enough money off of it do you think that's why you know part of it is the fda i mean the fda branded it they uh they put out that horse tweet and with the attractive health care worker nuzzling the horse and says seriously y'all you're not a horse you're not a cow stop it and that tweet went viral that was uh late august 2021 and that's right after that joe rogan got you know smeared and i actually sued the fda over that and won and they had to take down their misinformation online but unfortunately you know the brand lives on and i think the fda in addition

to making it over the counter, they need to issue a statement, a public statement saying that no, you know, ivermectin is intended for humans and is very safe. And basically they need to rebrand ivermectin. The new administration is pushing hard for government efficiency, but can Elon Musk and Doge fix the dollar? On April 16th, PhD economist Peter St. Onge explains why Bitcoin is the most important tool for government efficiency and how the principles underlying the global shift towards sound money can help you protect and grow your generational wealth register now at unchained.com slash tftc that's unchained.com slash tftc well should the fda exist in the first place do you think i think this is a question that many people are asking well i mean you do want somebody to

regulate the safety of drugs i would say that because but um yeah i'm actually getting ready to sue the FDA again, they've, you know, they're too big for their britches at this point. They're overstepping their bounds. So in this situation, what we're doing, it's a drug company that has a great off-label use for their product. And it's very safe. The data looks great in terms of effectiveness, but the FDA is very slow to give them the indication. If they don't have the FDA indication, they can't advertise it. They can't inform doctors. They can't inform potential patients about the off-label use. So I'm going to join this company and sue the FDA to allow them to educate people about off-label uses of medications because repurposed drugs, I mean,

that's what we relied on during the pandemic that say, you know, in my experience, if people use these medications early, they survived. And we could have saved so many people's lives by using these repurposed off-label drugs. And it's important that the FDA doesn't stand in that, in in the way of i mean that's it's just a it's a new avenue uh it's actually much more affordable to uh so use drugs that we already have in different ways instead of reinventing the wheel and coming you know it's very expensive to develop drugs and if we can find drugs that are already out there um that can work in other ways that would it'd be wonderful yeah no as it pertains to the the fda i mean peter teal said too many people focus on the inputs of anything whether

it's a company um sports whatever it is people focus on the inputs of what goes in nobody really what you should be focusing on is the outputs if you look at the output of the fda um the inputs are pedigrees degrees people with experience of big pharma and publicly where people are not as attune as to what's actually going on in in the sphere of of medicine that looks good the inputs look good look at this prestige that that is building up at the fda and look at all these papers and and website articles they're putting up when you actually look at the output the advice that they were giving whether it was the mask social distancing um we need to we need to um we need to flatten the curve uh ivermectin off the shelves you can't take that no hydroxychloroquine

take this experimental mRNA vaccine the outputs are objectively abhorrent and that's only as it pertains to COVID another thing personally again um baby formula like the like the only FDA approved baby formula is filled with seed oils and crap that really um is is not good for children then you have something like serenity kids which is is no seed oils like pure grass-fed um cow milk i believe and they're not allowed to say that their their formula is good for for toddlers and infants because it's not technically fda proof so i look at just those examples that are pertinent to my life specifically. It's like the outputs of what the FDA is producing are not beneficial to me and my family specifically. Actually, they're harmful in a way, very harmful objectively. And I would

agree. I think it is very important. Division of labor exists for a reason and you don't want people simply putting things on the market that could be harmful to individuals. But I think it's clear that the outputs of the fda are are a net negative for the united states populace overall and it seems like maybe this isn't a problem that the federal government should be solving i think in general the federal government needs to ease away from the doctor patient relationship and telling people what to do about their health and, you know, minimally involved in health. And because we saw what happened during the pandemic, it was so mismanaged. And, you know, we had bureaucrats dictating how doctors would treat patients.

And these bureaucrats were sitting in their bedrooms over Zoom calls deciding what the standard of care was. It's completely absurd. And so we never want to see that again. But, you know, they have discredited themselves so much that, you know, I don't know if it matters what they say anymore. Anybody with common sense is going to ignore them. Are you seeing more common sense amongst your peers? It's hard to know. I mean, it seems like on X, I see a lot more doctors following me and commenting than I have before that, you know, names I don't recognize, which is encouraging. I do have people, you know, doctors reach out to me here and there, you know, you know, like they stop by my office or they call that sort of thing, which is nice. um it but i do think there's still a large contingent of doctors out there that still don't get it um and you know haven't really learned anything unfortunately um and i i do

worry about our young doctors the people in the in the medical schools um and in training because you know those academic centers are the most rigid in their thinking uh and it's just a ripe atmosphere for um you know brainwashing and uh you know in training you you're you're trained to comply uh and it's it's i've never been in the military but i imagine it's similar you're just you stay in line and you don't deviate outside the lines and um that's concerning uh but yeah I just think we'll see what happens. I mean, a new administration has the potential to change the course of that, but it just depends on what they want to do. And right now, it just seems like they're talking about red dyes and processed food.

And for the students studying medicine right now, is it somewhat of a funnel to the very corporate medical system Where you have these big behemoths of corporate-owned hospital systems and pediatric practices that basically get a mandate from up above from corporate headquarters, which is typically corrupted by close ties to big pharma and insurance companies? Well, 98% of doctors are employed. 77% are employed by a hospital. 20% are employed by an insurance company or private equity group, and 2% are employed by the government. So that leaves 1% who are truly independent and third-party free. That's what I call myself because I don't contract with insurance companies, hospitals, or the government. And the only people I work for are my patients, but that is a rare breed, unfortunately. And

The government could encourage more doctors to go this route and they could encourage patients to use doctors like us. They could expand the use of health savings accounts so that any money that you spend on physician fees is tax free. That would be helpful. They could give us small business loans to help doctors get on their feet as an independent doctor. because it is hard it's harder to be independent in a lot of ways because you're running a business at the same time you're treating patients and that's it's time consuming uh but i do it because i appreciate the freedom and the flexibility and the ability to you know treat my patients the way i want to treat them yeah and on the patient side it's hard as well to get to untether yourself from the insurance system like we use crowd health uh in our family which is this um is a crowdfunded

health care model where we pay a monthly fee and then we help crowdfund other bills but if we ever have a health event we pay the first 500 and the rest gets crowdfunded and i've been on that for three years now and it is way cheaper than insurance but it's much scarier at least at the beginning it's not scary to me now but in the beginning it's like oh it seems this is a new model it's foreign uh not familiar with it insurance i've had it it's like your fish and water you're taught growing up like oh you go to the doctor your mom how did you pay for that well we have insurance um and i feel like that insurance sort of tether that exists on the patient side as well is a big stick in the mud because it makes it harder for people to make the jump to private

doctors like yourself that are running your own firms and so like we haven't even talked about insurance but insurance plays a big role in this as well yeah it's hard but you know so many people their deductibles are so high now that they're basically a cash paying patient unless something catastrophic happens which in some ways is good because you know when you think about with your car. You don't use your insurance to get your oil change. You use it if you get in a crash. And you could look at health insurance in the same way. And if you pay out of pocket for your basics, you're going to get a better experience and save the insurance for the more serious catastrophic issues that might come up. And hopefully you get lower premiums as well.

but you know there's direct primary care is a growing movement it's doctors that don't take insurance usually take you usually pay a monthly fee and the fee is comparable to a gym membership in price it's usually not super high and you get a lot more access to your doctor and it should equate into a higher quality experience and not all of them are like-minded when it comes to covid so you still have to screen for that i mean i've run across a few that are definitely not on my side um but you you stand a better chance of getting a more objective uh care that is not uh you don't have a third party whispering in your doctor's ear yeah all right yeah the the experience we've had has been incredible you have the ability to text at any hour um seven days a week and you

get a pretty quick response i mean we had an instance a couple years ago where one of our boys was uh had a high fever middle of the night we were able to text at 1 a.m and got a response within within 30 minutes wow you're not you're probably not going to get that at your run-of-the-mill pediatric doctor involved in a in a health care system yeah what what state are you located in i'm in texas oh so what is what part of texas austin oh so you want to share the name of that practice so i can send people or is it uh the x my wife handles the site i'm uh we had to switch we were using uh veronica max um for a while but she she closed her practice to spend time with her family but we moved on to another i don't know the name off the top of my head but

that was our first experience with this primary care um private doctor and it was incredible and so i think the experience for veronica has convinced us like moving forward this is the way that we're gonna we're gonna this is the way we're gonna interact with the health care system yeah yeah it's great yeah the um so in terms of a call to action for anybody listening to this Obviously, you got your summons this morning. The government here in Texas does not seem keen on coming to their senses and recognizing that something is wrong here. They're just going to take the orders from the government and do what they're told. um obviously we have the maha movement planted in the administration but they don't seem focused on what i believe you and i would deem to be um a a more important topic which is making sure that

people aren't getting poisoned with these mrna vaccines outside of conversations like this like what do you think anybody who is listening to this and agrees with us that there's a problem that is not being addressed? What do you think people need to do? Well, it depends on how much time you have. If you don't have much time, you can send an email or call your representatives about legislation that would help our movement,

especially in Texas. Texas is on the brink of turning blue, in my opinion. And I believe that healthcare is part of that. I think, you know, mandates started here. So mandates started April 1st, 2021, when Houston Methodist declared it was mandating the shot for its employees. And that's sort of how I got involved in all this, because I had privileges there and I spoke out against the mandates.

And then they suspended my privileges in a very public fashion. And this was five months before Biden. So they really led the way and they paved the way for the rest of the country. And I believe it was purposeful. They knew if they could get away with the mandates in Texas, they could get away with them anywhere. And we have the largest medical center in the world in Houston, 61 hospitals are the largest cancer center, we have the largest children's hospital. And it brings people in from all over the world and dilutes our values. But we can fight back. I mean, there are a lot of bills under consideration. Now, I was actually just in Austin yesterday and the day before testifying on these bills. um yeah and but you know the house is moving so slowly it's hard to believe that much is

going to actually happen because we're only nine weeks left and um they've heard very few bills so it's a little bit discouraging but there's one bill in particular that would would help me it's SB 2422. And it is a bill that would exonerate any doctor that was disciplined by the Texas Medical Board during the pandemic when it regards off-label use of medications or masks. So I mean, there's one doctor, Eric Hinson, who had his license removed temporarily because he wasn't wearing a mask in his clinic. Stella Emanuel has said over 30 complaints against her to the medical board, no patients harmed. And, you know, my legal fees now are $260,000 just fighting these medical board complaints. And, you know, there was not a patient harm involved in any of

them. But this bill would clean the record and reimburse us for our legal fees. It would be wonderful. And then yesterday, I was testifying for a bill. And I can't remember the number. But it was Shelly Luther. So Shelly Luther, not if you know her story, but she was put in jail for three days, because she refused to lock down. So she had a hair salon. And she knew, you know, she's like, I've got people that are depending on their income. And she refused to shut down her salon and when she was imprisoned for three days. And she ran for office and won. So she is a state representative and she introduced her first bill yesterday. And what it would do is if a pharmaceutical company that has a vaccine, if they decide they're going to advertise their

product, so on TV or online, et cetera, if they advertise in Texas, then they are liable for their product so vaccine manufacturers have no liability for their product but this bill if they're going to advertise it they would be liable they could be sued if anything goes wrong for their product so is that a way to get around the eua well it's a way to get around the prep act yeah so yeah so it would just be a way that you could actually because right now you can't sue them you go to a vaccine injury compensation program. And it's very difficult even going to that court to get reimbursed. And the average reimbursement is low. I know for COVID, I think it's only 66 people have been reimbursed and the average reimbursement is $3,000, which is really pathetic. So you have

basically no rights. And most people don't even know that if they get a vaccine, if they get the covid shot that if something goes wrong uh they're out of luck so this is it's a it's a small step but it's definitely a step in the right direction yeah is the eua the right term is because it's on the childhood schedule that's why they don't have liability right yeah eua is emergency use authorization which basically just allows you to get it out there without full approval from the fda um in terms of liability protection i guess i think the prep act you know that gives them just blanket immunity but that's for more than just the covet shots i mean that's for hospital workers anything that happens in the hospital uh and you know if you give

remdesivir that sort of thing yeah that's that would be great if you're in texas make sure because it's crazy what's going on here like there there's a lot of important bills one uh that we're very um very keen on getting past in the bitcoin community there's a bill about uh texas adding bitcoin as a strategic reserve asset and as you said we many bitcoiners been paying attention to that wondering um when that's going to hit the floor i think what you're i would concede that what you're pushing for is probably more important bodily autonomy and health um uh is probably more important than than getting bitcoin on the state balance sheet but you have examples like yesterday took the time to vote to make it a pakistan day in in texas or um yesterday

what are you serious that was yesterday yeah yeah oh that's crazy yeah it's texas also has a bill to make ivermectin over the counter and they have a bill to ban mrna shots um but neither one of those bills have been sent to a committee hearing yet unfortunately so that i'm sure it'll progress do you think the push to make texas blue is similar to what they did with making the houston hospital system the first to issue mandates is if you can turn texas blue you can really take down one of the biggest dominoes in the in the united states to to push all these Orwellian, uh, collectivist, uh, laws and mandates on people. Right. I mean, as goes Texas, as goes the country. So if they can take down Texas with,

you know, the infiltration from the Democrats, uh, and take Texas and that's a, that's a huge deal. I mean, that's, uh, that would be, um, I, it's, it's, it's just interesting to me that, um people are not more aware of what's going on um but you know there was you know in this last election there were there was an influx of new representatives there was some overturn uh but unfortunately the the old regime still reigns um so there's still more work to do but they did make some progress what do you do are you optimistic that the tides can turn or do you think it's uh i mean this is talked about nationally like turning i mean that was the big meme texas is purple we're going to turn it blue you have aoc out there um campaigning in

texas to to turn it to turn it blue and as somebody i'm from the northeast originally i'm one of the refugees from new york when things got crazy post-covid came down um a lot of the bitcoin industry shifted down here so followed a lot of people to work in peace and i like to think that uh i am not uh one of those people who came here and is trying to uh bring the policies of the states i came from with me i think objectively i'm not my voting uh history would prove that but um it is something that's in it particularly in austin you just look at it austin austin you've got cranes in the sky all over the place there's a lot of people and companies flooding in and one thing having been here for four years now and doing my best to

experience the um the authentic texas way as much as possible getting out to different parts of of the state and talking to to people that were born and raised here and trying to understand what the state is all about uh it is something that should be preserved and i really love the spirit of texas specifically it would be a great shame if um just by brute force people were able to really change the nature of the state? Well, I don't think people realize how much health care dominates our economy. If you look at jobs on Indeed, the number one job in Texas is for RNs. So it dominates our economy.

If you look at health care and how health care workers vote, 10 years ago, it was predominantly conservative. They voted Republican. But that has completely shifted. So now most health care professionals are Democrats. And our state is dominated by health care. And like I said, it brings people in from all over the world. And it's unfortunate, it's unfortunate, but I and I'm not sure how we stop it. You look at TMA, Texas Medical Association. It's the largest medical association or state medical association in the country. And I mean, they support mandates. They still support mandates. They discourage free speech. They were against SB 14, which is the bill that prohibits gender transitioning of minors. They lobbied against that. And that's the largest medical association in the country. And you would think in Texas that that wouldn't be happening.

But, you know, and they went after me. I mean, they joined a group called Shots Heard. And the group's purpose was to attack doctors like myself online who were spreading misinformation and report them to the medical board and try to get them de-licensed. And Texas Medical Association is a member of this group. I mean, it's really bizarre. That seems the whole health care industry, what you just described in Texas, it seems like there's got to be some sort of conflict of interest involved there. That should be obvious and there should be like a clear demarcation between what people can fund and who they can go after based off of the incentives they have. Well, you know, the government, Biden, funded these groups, these influencer groups to go after doctors and to, you know, basically propagandize the shot. I mean, and that that said there's some there was a program called COVID-19 Community Corps, and it launched the exact same day that Houston Methodist declared it was mandating the shot.

So it was April 1st, 2021. It was a $10 billion program. So this is a government program. It was doled out to all these different influencer groups, started with 275 and it grew to over 17,000. The money's untraceable. It's so complicated going to all these nonprofits and, and like, but I,

you know, I do not think it was a coincidence that, you know, Methodist declared the mandate and this program came out on the exact same day. Yeah. It's, I mean,

we were not because of this but like the usaid money that went to ngos um that funded campaigns mine wasn't really an influencer campaign per se but usaid funded the center for countering digital hate which put me this channel this youtube channel on a list for um i was defined as a new denier in the realm of climate change we've had a lot of climate scientists that don't agree with the mainstream narrative that um we are doomed for cataclysmic climate change in the in the near future on just put their case forward and because of that usa funneled money to center for counter countering digital hate which put me on a list and they basically had an ai system to scrape our transcripts to find any episode which we

talked about climate change and then they would send that to youtube and tell them to demonetize that particular episode and that it's happened with covet too i don't know what specific list we're on but early during the pandemic we had a doctor from wyoming doc woods on on the show and he was in his 70s and he was giving out ivermectin and he got his license pulled uh early on in the pandemic because he was giving ivermectin and i had him on the show to give a story and it was at the time um during covid when when censorship was at its peak and so that episode didn't even get them demonetized got pulled down completely but to think that i would not be surprised there were some similar sort of funneling of government money to an ngo to tattletale on this channel to

youtube to to highlight hey they're talking about about wrong think on the show you should you should pull it down. Yeah. It's still, the censorship is still happening. I mean, I did a episode with Danny Jones and Jack Cruz was on there and they had to bleep out vaccines. So every time one of us said vaccine, they had to mute it so that they wouldn't get deplatformed from YouTube. It's insane. And yeah, I just did an interview with Tucker Carlson and he told me that he'd had a meeting with the youtube um head honcho or you know somebody up high about the censorship and youtube has promised now not to censor uh covid misinformation uh they're going to allow us to talk about it now so it'll be interesting to see what happens it'll allow you to talk about but

they probably won't feed it into the algorithm it was it was it's insane to think that it's really scary i think i hope i think people listening to this show understand but that's one thing i hope whether it's in regards to covid climate change whatever that like this should not be happening in america american companies the government number one should not be printing money or issuing debt to fund ngos to propagandize the american people and um tattletale on companies to censor individuals but censorship uh it's like hopefully this trump administration can turn the tide but we're we're reaching a precipice um that if we if we cross over it's going to be very scary maybe before you look over to europe like the uk and germany and ireland and you can't publicly

state certain things without the threat of going to jail and many americans will point and laugh at that but we're we're not too far away from that here as well that's right that's right well i i have hope i mean i was kicked off twitter for five months and uh i got reinstated on christmas day thank you elon um so you know it i hopefully we've hit our low point and we're we're rising in the right direction heading in the right direction yeah i hope so as well well mary i want to thank you for for all you're doing i know today particularly was probably uh um a bit frustrating for you so i thank you for taking the time to sit down with me uh less than an hour after you got that that summons um from the medical board keep fighting um i think what you're doing is extremely

important i think most importantly um little by little i've been following you on x um for years now uh you're instilling confidence in people i think you alluded to it earlier you have other doctors beginning to hop in your replies um with with words of encouragement people coming up to you i think little by little the more you continue to march on the more confidence you're going to instill in others to to speak out against this because i think that's the most important thing right now is just to not let this elephant get swept under the rug keep shouting about it there needs to be retribution the people that really uh orchestrated the crimes against humanity from 2020 on they need to be held accountable and this is not something that i'm gonna forget

it's not something that many others aren't gonna forget and we need to make sure that anybody who's sleepwalking out there needs to wake up and realize hey this is uh this was a crime against humanity and there needs to be retribution people need to be held accountable agree and i appreciate you having me on to help me with that effort thank you mary um keep crushing it we'll we'll be following your story and uh hopefully the next time you're austin we can meet up in person definitely all right peace and love freaks Thank you.