TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #695: Gen Alpha Is Already Building the Future With AI with @somewhatstella

Episode Date: December 17, 2025

Marty sits down with Stella, a 15-year-old student at Austin's Alpha School, to discuss how Gen Alpha is using AI tools like Claude to build real products, why embracing new technology beats negativity, and how autonomy-focused education models are preparing young entrepreneurs for the future. Bibliarch: https://bibliarch.com/home Stella’s TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@somewhatstella STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/VJ2dABShBz Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Bitkey https://bit.ly/TFTCBitkey20 Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Obscura https://obscura.net/ SLNT https://slnt.com/tftc CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/

you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free if you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean that's part of the bull case for bitcoin if you're not paying attention you probably should be what is that freaks welcome back to tftc we have uh a very interesting guest the youngest guest in tftc's eight-year history we've been doing this for eight years and stella you are our youngest guest at 15 years old welcome to the show hi nice to be here how are you doing well

doing well uh like i was saying just before we hit record i'm excited to have you on because we have an older audience i didn't tell you this but there's been a running theme on the show and discussion on this show and the other show i do with matt odell which is how do we reach the younger generations oh yeah in bitcoin because it's a bunch of millennials gen xers and boomers typically that listen to this show and so i'm very excited to get the perspective of somebody who's on the cusp of gen z and gen alpha you get to choose which one you associate with depending on how cool one one or the other generation is um but this came to be because of an assignment you have at school at the alpha school yeah in austin and the alpha school is i'm not sure if

you're aware but outside of um the austin bubble i think with tech forward and investment circles people are looking at what's happening at the alpha school around the country and saying hey this seems like a a pretty cool model like i was mentioning i listened to the invest like the best podcast with uh the founder joe lamont a few months ago and he was describing how he and the team the administrative team at alpha school built the school but i think getting the perspective of one of the students is can be incredibly enlightening so why don't we start there story about yourself um how long you've been in alpha school and what it's like i started alpha in the middle of my ninth grade year i before that i was homeschooled pretty much my whole life

and i was doing dual enrollment at the local community college austin community college acc see. And I kind of just found it boring, to be honest. It wasn't really causing me to do much with my life. I mean, sure, I'm at a college, but it didn't really feel all that inspiring or anything like that, which is why I decided to come to Alpha because I wanted to do something, you know, more. I have plenty of ideas. I had plenty of ideas when I went in. And so I kind of knew that it was going to be great for me because i always preferred the idea of doing being like an entrepreneur rather than working for somebody else and so alpha you know seems like a perfect fit and it was when i joined it you know i can't imagine myself going anywhere

else now and so what what is it like at alpha school what is what is a typical day like what what do you what autonomy and agency do you have over what you decide to focus on we have quite a bit. We start our mornings with like three hours of academics, as I'm sure you know, that's kind of what most people do know, where we do pretty much the core subjects. We do have minimums that we have to do in each of them. But other than that, we get to completely choose what we want to do in what order. I can do things whenever I want. I can do things in whichever way I want, as long as i'm you know getting my work done and we definitely have a lot of autonomy out inside of academics and even like outside of academics we can go roam around the austin city downtown

and then you know masterpiece obviously is a lot of autonomy so there's that what's masterpiece oh masterpiece yes that is our four-year-long passion project um so mine would be that website or i guess later game that i'm working on making there's people making like ai teddy bears there's going to there's like a ai chat bot for helping teens with like dating um there's a lot of really interesting products here that are you know coming up and it's that's that's what we call this the masterpiece which is the four-year-long passion project yeah and that's i think that's one thing that as a father with younger children we had a almost six a three year old and a three month old and thinking about um how they're going to learn moving forward into somebody who's really dove

headfirst into incorporating ai into my business here at tftc and what we do on the fun side i often wonder like okay when is the right time to introduce these ai tools into their life and what's the best way in which they can leverage them and like how i get how was ai introduced to to the students at at alpha and how how often do you use it um i'm not sure about how it was introduced to other students because i knew about it way before i joined alpha like one chat gbt released my parents were like instantly hyped up about it i witnessed like the first youtube video about it come out and they were like so excited about it and we all watched it as like a big family fun thing um so i'm not quite sure how they introduce it to the younger kids

since i joined in you know like in ninth grade but we definitely do use it like quite a bit specifically when it comes to masterpiece and academics it's a little more iffy because obviously we can't be doing any academic dishonesty or anything but we can use them for if we're trying to you know better understand something or to help us with a topic we're really struggling with as long as we're not cheating with it obviously um so most of the work with ai goes into the masterpiece section and so how long have you been using i personally said three four years now at this point yeah since like when did it come out 2022 something like that gbt3 i think so and i guess let's lean into it like what's your what's your go-to ai stack these days

for different for different tasks um for just you know if i need help with any random thing i'll typically go to chat gbt but for coding specifically i like to use clod code i share the 200 subscription with my mom and we just work on our own projects with it are you uh were you are you just as amazed as i am at the 4.5 it seems to be way better than the previous iterations so good has it helped you with your masterpiece project at all oh definitely my entire like website i i made it all with plot code um i don't know any coding myself i guess i know like some basics i tried doing the con academy coding course when i was a little kid but i never got further than making the snowman thing um and so you know quad code has pretty

much done all of the coding for me i haven't touched it at all i haven't even opened the files i don't think and then when it comes to like actually hosting and launching the website did you have to go through domain yes i did do that that's not something god can really do i guess but um it was really easy and it's fairly cheap too like the domain name i got is only 30 a year so it's practically a non-expense at that point and you know i just had to upgrade my super base so that's you know getting a little bit more expensive but yeah whatever well let's talk about it um okay what you're what you're building i mean your ultimate goal is this sims like game yes however you have to build fundamental building blocks to to get to that end state and

you've been working on some of the storyboarding prototype yes so since my game is kind of like ai sims you kind of need people's characters to have substance for the ai to go off of for them to be correctly characterized which is why i made my website which is visual note-taking essentially so that you know authors or other people like just with characters that they want to simulate write down every little detail about their character their story they can storyboard it they just it's a visual way of planning out every little aspect and taking notes on it um and that's that's what the website is really for and it will be incorporated into the game but for now it's just the website itself because i haven't quite made the game yet

and what's the website it's called bibliarch.com b-i-b-l-i-a-r-c-h um it's derived from two different greek things bibli from like biblio as in book and then arc as in kind of like monarch or ruler so it's you know there it is okay i'm in okay share this again so let me think of a story i can tell i create a new story what do you recommend i'd recommend the template okay if it gives a it gives a good view of all the nodes let's tell the story of uh satoshi nakamoto let's make this uh oh wow um pre satoshi before bitcoin oh okay very responsive okay now what are you what would you recommend i do here um fill it out to your heart's content you know you can go into the characters and relationships to

put in the characters um and just look at the different types of nodes okay okay we don't have to do this all i think this is really cool to say a finny switching keyboards here yeah so this is cool so then you create like a relationship map okay so yeah we can basically create these relationship and if you press connect characters then you can create their how their relationships would look okay you click one character then the other three professional okay this is really cool so how long did it take you to build this um about the half half a semester it took to build that and then for the second half of the semester i've been just refining it you know fixing all the bugs i like released it to the

public this like the second half of the semester um you know all that stuff okay using this now in such so now i can see what you're doing so you you like to tell stories you like to write yeah um fiction and so as a storyteller somebody's written fiction in the past what problem does this solve for you well i there are other websites like this i've used them before but the problem with those is that they're really expensive um the one that i used before this was millinote but they give you very limited storage and then you have to pay to a monthly subscription after you hit a certain threshold and it's it's very annoying and it's kind of just unrealistic for the average person to be able to afford that which is you know what inspired me to kind of

make my note-taking look like this i had a different initial idea for how the note-taking would look but when i thought about it i thought hey this could just be another like grab for the game another feature of it rather than you know kind of setting the note-taking aside since it's kind of a major aspect of the game and so with the game is that the intention and the goal is to allow individual users players to build their own universes and characters yeah it's pretty much aiming to be you know as i said the sims is my major inspiration but more so it's meant for plot simulation than life simulation so you'll be able to simulate scenes built like a world map um all of that stuff that usually games don't allow you to do because they have you know smaller ideas of

what of playing you know it would be like ready player one where individual universes created by individual players can interact with each other or oh i never quite thought of other people's characters interacting with each other but that could actually be great um it's more so for creating the universes themselves and like simulating the characters together that like exists in the same world but i guess i mean you could create different worlds if you have different stories as well or maybe share them with your friends yeah this is fascinating somebody's been away from uh the gaming scene for quite a while it's been a while since i picked up the sticks or downloaded the game on on my desktop but um i think that's that's one

thing that's really sort of illuminating to me with this ai wave is just how there's a lot of people worried i'm sure you may be aware of it in the mainstream many people are worried that ai is going to take people's jobs yeah and that there's not going to be any use for for humans anymore but i having used it and leaned into it myself i find it hard to believe there certainly will be some job disruption but i think for individuals with creative desires and more importantly agency and the will to actually use this stuff. It's incredibly powerful. What's your perspective?

That's exactly what I think. I don't think that AI is exactly a harm to the job market, just rather, you know, putting it in... Oh, I got a pop-up on my screen. I don't think that AI is exactly a harm to the job market, but rather that it will change the kind of jobs available. So rather than going to work for some big gaming megacorporation, people will be able to make their own dream games.

You know, before AI, you would see everybody saying, oh, I wish I could quit my job so I could just make my dream game or, you know, growing up, all my friends wanted to make video games. But for the average person, you know, it's not really available to them with the time and money since it's expensive. And AI, I feel like just allows more people to be able to do what they want rather than work for somebody else. so i don't necessarily see it as a harm to the job market but rather allowing more people to be their own boss and make their own products no it seems like that's a very big focus of alpha and that naturally leads me and i'm sure you interact with plenty of kids your age outside of alpha do you think there's going to be um i'm trying to think of the way the frame like are you worried about people your age that aren't interacting with these tools to be honest a

little bit yeah i feel like it mostly boils down to motivation issues i see like some friends of mine they kind of just don't really have drives and so i'll tell them hey why don't you try out doing ai coding for this idea you have and they kind of shoot it down because they aren't really willing to put in effort. And I feel like that's, that's kind of the biggest issue here of people are just instantly shooting down things when it could be good for them. And that's, you know, probably the biggest problem is that they won't accept, you know, the responsibility and, you know, working towards things that they want. I just hope that AI will help them realize that it's going to be much easier than they think and that's uh i mean the generation above you

where you're straddling the older generation that you strive to see that's uh one of the one of the big problems that at least we discussed on this show a lot this year is this this idea that um a lot of particularly the older members of gen z don't think that there is enough to be inspired about and enough motivation to go out there and actually put effort in because they think the system is working against them but again to your point and what i truly believe it's this if you have these ai tools and you lean into them and you show some agency and some drive you can actually do something productive and that's what i hope and one of the things that i've been saying on this show is i hope gen alpha is sort of able to um really lean into this opportunity considering

how much time they have in front of them and take advantage of it definitely um i think that gen alpha has a better chance at this because they're being introduced to it much younger so like you know i'll go babysit my younger cousin not will's kid the other cousins and my little cousin elton will be you know talking with chat tbt about a game idea he has and like creating ideas for his pokemon fan game dream. And so I feel like the younger generation of Gen Alpha definitely has a much better chance of learning how to adapt to AI and use it to steal their dreams. But I feel like Gen Z specifically is stuck in kind of a negativistic state that's harming them. So freaks, this rip of TFTC was brought to you by our good friends at BitKey. BitKey makes Bitcoin

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now at unchained.com slash TFTC. That's unchained.com slash TFTC. That's like it. And that's why i'm really um inspired by your entrepreneurial spirit and leaning into this and i guess building on that like bibliarch and the games that may flow from it like do you see this as something that you can monetize um i mean yeah i guess like anything that you can make you can monetize i suppose um people use ai for you know making personal projects and you know projects they can monetize it it's really all just the same as long as it's you know driven by motivation you know yeah and i'm seeing here you know it looks like there is a paid tier on bibliarch and you can pay in bitcoin are you only accepting bitcoin that is a donation page and i do accept non-bitcoin

but bitcoin is obviously an option i would prefer bitcoin frankly i'm right now working on a paid tier though which will you know allow users to do multiplayer multiplayer has kind of been the the biggest like step up in this website and i've been working on it for a while because it it requires real time and all this stuff that's just kind of a pain to make but it's almost done And when it is, it will be under a paid tier since it, you know, takes up a lot of real time functions, which I have limited of before having to pay extra. So, yeah, it's going to be paid under a subscription, something like that. And yeah. Why do you prefer Bitcoin?

Well, because inflation, really. I've mostly just heard about inflation from other people. but in a way i'm pretty sure that i did dodge it from what i've heard like half of the u.s dollars have been printed since 2020 and i've been investing in bitcoin since like way before 2020 when i was like 5 and 2015 that kind of stuff and so i had pretty much all of my savings in bitcoin and so because of that i pretty much avoided all that massive inflation that would been caused during that time and it's kind of crazy to think about that because on top of it i was making money through bitcoin going up and so you know it's incredible to hear i mean that's

the other thing to start young in bitcoin it's about time in the market not timing the market and so yeah back that you're 15 and have been able to recognize the upside potential of holding bitcoin for long term is again i think another benefit that gen alpha has yeah moving forward what what is your peer group think of bitcoin are you unique um no i have other friends that are like you know kind of in the bitcoin space but i feel like i'm probably the biggest into it i'll try to get my friends who you know my friend lily is saving up for a computer and i'm telling her lily put your money in bitcoin while you save up for it or you know other stuff like that so i'm probably i'm the biggest into it but they don't have like negative feelings towards it

or anything just sort of indifferent if you're not really into it it's like oh yeah something can exist because that's always been a long long-standing assumption uh in the bitcoin space is that hey gen alpha is really going to get this because um you're 15 you were born gosh it's hard after bitcoin launched after bitcoin launched so you've never lived in a world where bitcoin didn't exist which is hard for somebody like me to fathom because i spent more than half my life uh with bitcoin not existing which is uh yeah it's um it's interesting to go through but like building bibliark what were some of the biggest challenges and sort of the roadblocks that oh yeah you ran into um i say the biggest challenge was just claude code not listening to

me sometimes it likes to go off and do its own thing or messes everything up in one go and it's really annoying thank god for backups because i have almost lost everything at times um it's actually the biggest struggle just the ai being kind of incompetent at times i think with four five i've noticed i don't know if you've noticed this the uh cloud code has been way better oh yeah it hasn't like made giant mess ups in forever for me that was pretty early in development that it was doing that and so what's that flow look like when you're do you just use claude you connected the cursor just claude i go in the terminal you know cd blah blah blah get into the correct directory and then claude and boom i i got it are you using their mpc framework at all

mpc framework it's where they're agentic framework that lets you contract agents within claude's app to do particular micro tasks well i've never heard of it so i guess not yeah let me see uh no mcp excuse me um i haven't heard of it yeah no i was just thinking about uh if you lean into that and create little agents to do little subtasks for you oh this yes my mom has um my mom's been doing this i haven't yet i've been meaning to but she says that it's like really helpful and she gets them to write all different documents on different things and then she tells the main clod um go over these documents and review and tell me which way is the best way to do this in all subjects yeah no it's and to be honest i haven't leaned into it as heavily as

i probably should be but um it feels like for bibliarch specifically it could help you really accelerate this and i think that's the other crazy thing so over the course of your masterpiece building this um how i mean we're talking about clod 4.5 but like how how more powerful have the ai tools gotten since you started on this project oh yeah definitely a lot more when i started this i was actually not using clod i was using replit and i ran out of the amount of stuff that i could use to code with replit which is why i moved to clod and instantly it was just so much better and you can really tell the difference especially like you know replit versus cloud code or chat gbt versus cloud code cloud is so above all of the

other models and considering it'll only get better it it really makes me think that you know this is like the complete future of coding why even learn to code after this yeah do you feel fortunate to be at alpha to be able to have the autonomy and the ability to focus on stuff like this yeah um i you know you know talk to friends and they talk about how they don't have time to partake in hobbies and stuff like that and it makes me realize you know i'm really lucky to have all the time to be doing this because not only can i work on it at home i can work on it at school and it's so beneficial to me and i feel like so many people could benefit from you know a similar model in public schools or other things do you think it will get picked up

by other other school systems or private schools because that's i mean just outside looking in and um speaking with people like your parents who have sent their children there it seems pretty clear to me that the structure the curriculum and sort of the model by which you um sort of have kids like yourself follow their passions and while doing so in doing so learning some pretty complex things and actually getting a good education seems like the right way to do it to me i mean i went to a montessori um school when i was younger and i think i feel like it's very similar just find when children are passionate and sort of foster and nurture that passion and the best to your ability as a as an educator and it seems like alpha is really taking that to to

another level yeah definitely i wish that you know public schools would incorporate this but i i don't know i don't think that they'd actually do it because public schools seem more like they're trained to they're trying to train you for you know being in the workplace like working these long shifts to be honest i don't know if it's really all that about education at this point it's the exact same as like hundreds of years ago yeah the prussian model of public schooling system so learn how to get in line listen to the bills walk to your next class and uh learn the subjects that we put before you yeah what is your uh what is your great hope for your generation my what oh my great hope for my generation i guess really just to kind of

stopping so negative everything i see online with gen z is just really negative really pessimistic and i feel like a lot of people are holding themselves back because they try to see the worst in everything to be you know correct or like oh you see this ai thing is so harmful i'm so i'm so caring because i say this it's kind of like almost fake and you know since the fakeness is coming in a way of um of negativism it's kind of promoting more negativism and i just wish that you know my generation could be more positive and more like oh this is a good tool we can use we can you know make our lives better with this rather than only focusing on the downsides because pretty much everything has a downside and an upside it's just you got to choose which one to look at

yeah it's a double-edged sword if you will with silver linings in between yeah the moral social signaling is uh it's gen z's not the only ones doing it people i think that is something that is uh systemic throughout society across all generations and yeah especially at the age of social media um it's really it's really easy to be a moral social signature uh signaler online because it's very easy to get social brownie points in the forms of likes and retweets and stuff like that um so it is it is weird i mean being a millennial it was really a i'm at the perfect age to remember life right before the internet um pretty vividly in life when the internet became popular and as it's progressed and um i think that's another thing a lot of

people don't realize is that you me um my parents your parents were born at this really interesting inflection point in human history where we're transitioning from the industrial age the the digital age and how do we yeah how do we sort of um evolve with these new technologies and i that's what we're witnessing what you're describing now is sort of this confrontation with this incredible change in a very short period of time my parents often like they've mentioned to me before that back when the internet was released um like internet started existing people had the same reaction towards it that they have towards ai and same with like the industrial revolution It seems like whenever any new sort of technology comes out, people tend to down on it rather than embracing it, even though it's the future.

And, you know, I find that very counterproductive and I don't even quite understand why people would be against it because it makes no sense to be anti-innovation, especially since, you know, all of these tools that are created, people always think that they're going to take jobs, but they seem to make jobs. You know, the industrial revolution causes more people to be able to do different things or like, you know, technology coming into play allows all these technological jobs with like, you know, the coding and digital art, all these things. And AI, I think it's going to be the same. It's just going to give people more jobs, just not the same ones that they're used to. Yeah, when I think about it, I think there's great potential for an explosion in small and medium sized businesses. We can have a world of hundreds of thousands, millions of even small businesses of people using AI to build obscure niche products that exist on the Internet and interact with the physical world sometimes and give people agency to control their own lives. And most importantly, not most importantly, but importantly, their their financial well-being. Yeah, definitely.

Yeah. What are some other projects? I mean, you alluded to some earlier in the discussion, but what are some of your peers building for their masterpieces? There's the kind of poster children of the school, like the AI teddy bear, the AI dating coach, that kind of stuff. There's a kid making a running app kind of based off of Pokemon. There's a girl making a kind of um true crime thing for like teenagers to solve true crime cases there's non-profits for like helping voters come into things there's you know multiple streamers streaming is actually quite a big thing at my school surprisingly um you know various topics over different things oh modular clothing that one's one of my favorites yeah fill me in on

streaming streaming culture is a culture that it's the first time where i feel old this uh emergence of streaming culture and i look at the streamers and kids your age will sit there and watch somebody on twitch or kick or whatever live streaming platform and just watch that person sit at their computer and talk about things what in your mind what is what is the draw the allure of of streamers and what are the pros and cons of of that format to be honest i'm not too sure about the draw i've never been in big conscious dreaming myself i've heard other kids at my school say that it's kind of like nice to put on for like background noise if they're like studying or like playing the game alongside them i guess i'm not quite sure all together though because i don't really have my

own experience on it you're a similar spot to me where it's like okay let's get another some uh like-minded individuals and uh on the cusp of gen z and gen alpha well stella this is um this has been awesome thank you for being the youngest guest ever thanks for having me what um what have we not discussed that you think the audience you would like the audience to walk away with whether that's particularly what you're working on bibliarch how alpha works or just um a message from uh a 15 year old gen alpha slash gen z to a much older audience um i guess just you know ai is the future better embrace the future i mentioned that already but you know that's a good message for an older audience because i tend to see you know older

people kind of rebelling against new technology i guess but i don't think that your audience would be like that i feel like they're pretty innovative yeah very innovative the best the biggest the brightest audience in the world here at tftc so uh just an affirmation for for all the audience members who are already leaning into ai you're doing the right thing yes definitely yes awesome well stella thank you for your time good luck finishing good luck um for the rest of your tenure on Alpha School. I think it's really cool what you're building and what you're participating in at Alpha School. Like you said, I think this model should be replicated as widely as possible across the country, across the world. I think it's the future of education. I'm a big believer

in autonomy as somebody who went to public and private school and sat in class, waited for the bell to ring uh walk to the next class yeah and i i hated it i and at high school we had a bit more autonomy not as much as autonomy as you had but grade school public school uh was like a prison to me i think uh i don't think it's changed much since i was uh since i was going to the public schooling system and so hopefully this is a uh a great model i know it is a great model hopefully more people become aware of it because i think the discussion that we had a 15 year old being able to come on a podcast and talk with this much confidence and talk about something very interesting which is building something using cutting edge ai tools like claude is an example

of like hey this is what we should want our youths doing this is what we should want them leaning into so thank you for your time and thanks for having me yeah i wish you luck thank you all right peace and love freaks thank you thank you for listening to this episode of tftc if you've made it this far i imagine you got some value out of the episode if so please share it far and wide with your friends and family we're looking to get the word out there also wherever you're listening whether that's youtube apple spotify make sure you like and subscribe to the show and if you can leave a rating on the podcasting platforms that goes a long way last but not least if you want to get these episodes a day early and add free make sure you download the fountain podcasting

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