TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #762: July 2026 Is The Portal with Erin Redwing

Episode Date: June 24, 2026

Marty sits down with Bitcoin astrologer Erin Redwing to discuss the once-in-6,000-year planetary alignment arriving in July 2026, why AI and surveillance are the era's defining battlegrounds, and how Bitcoiners can survive the coming identity crisis by staying humble and stacking sats. Erin on X: https://x.com/realizingerin Erin’s website: https://www.erinredwing.com Erin on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@realizingerin STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Bitkey https://bitkey.world/ Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Unchained https://unchained.com/tftc/ Lygos https://lygos.finance/ Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/

you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free if you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency bitcoin wins in the world of fiat currencies bitcoin is the victor i mean that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Aaron, you don't know this, but, uh, there's, there's a few women in my life. They're anticipating this conversation. Actually, my wife is one of them. My sister's another. And then, and then our friend Kelly Kelly, if you're listening out there, hello, I know you're,

you're waiting for this episode. We were actually talking about it last night in preparation. Uh, erin is an astrologer she's been around uh bitcoin for for many years now at this point i am one of those males who has a wife and a sister who are deep into astrology and they're always talking about it with each other and then every once in a while my sister will send me a like this is you i'm a gemini uh and i'm i've always been like arm's length like yeah this is cool and sort of describes me but uh not gonna fall too deep down the astrology rabbit hole but we met in vegas and had a great conversation at a dinner um with a couple of friends and we decided then that you were going to come on the show and particularly at this point in time because there's

a lot going on in your world and so i guess starting it what the hell is astrology why should anybody care and even if you don't care why should you listen to this episode yeah thanks for having me i there i through a mutual friend i heard about you and he basically was like if you meet marty you have to talk to him because you guys have so much in common and that was like exactly what happened we just had such a great discussion and um yeah i think some people are kind of put off by me being an astrologer i actually call myself a bitcoin astrologer that's my twitter bio i just kind of like go for it just to get it out there right off the bat um but you know a lot of people are pretty ignorant about astrology i say that as like a neutral term not

as a derisive term um they probably associate astrology with daily horoscopes in the newspaper maybe they think astrology is witchcraft like there's kind of different associations and um you know astrology is uh thousands of years old it's it's the first sort of attempt to understand universal human archetypes and the timing and cycles of the human experience and so it makes sense if you think about being an ancient person looking up into the sky and seeing that a couple of the stars are moving around in cycles that are not quite predictable like they don't go in a straight line and the same rate all the time sometimes they move backwards sometimes they conjunct with each other um that that the ancients would find this really fascinating and try to

interpret something that's coming from the heavens from it right and so that's what what puts astrology is kind of the um precursor to a lot of the major religions is that it was sort of this um um myth-making sort of divination making meaning of things type of study um that that predated you know by thousands of years many of the religions and so um astrology is like not antagonistic to religion that's something i always like to say is like you know it's not witchcraft um all of the major religions are okay with astrology they don't like if you start to like try to manipulate reality around your understanding of the stars but it's one of these practices that just is kind of like um, yeah, it's, it's mythology and it's, it's trying to make meaning of, of experiences and

of the timing of things. So I, uh, came to astrology through astronomy. I was like a hardcore materialist, um, atheist, like did not believe in anything woo woo. And I was working in astronomy and, um, just because I was looking at planets all the time, that kind of awakened me to just feeling something about the planets. I just thought they were magical. I thought they beautiful and um it also made it very easy for me to learn astrology very quickly because i already knew the motions of planetary objects and so um astrology was basically like you know i had a conversation with someone who kind of sparked my interest and then i went down the rabbit hole and that ended up becoming what i ended up being called to do like i don't work in astronomy

anymore i'm now like a full-time astrologer um so i know like i've done all of the mental sort of like this can't be real this doesn't make any sense you know all of that i've already done to myself. And so I'm used to that from other people, but I think the thing that I just want to tell people, you know, in case they've already not clicked off by hearing that this is an astrology episode is like, you can allow things that you don't agree with, or that you maybe don't think are real into your head. And then you can like, let that flow out of you too. You know what I mean? Like you can, you can let information or perspectives wash over you and you can take what you think is interesting or what sparks inspiration for you. And if there are things that you think

are bullshit or that you don't agree with you can just like let that go you know and so you don't have to take everything dead serious and uh instantly like you know put up a judgment um yeah it's it's you know i because i think astrology basically opens you up to trying to see the world around you through a deep time perspective you know like some of the things we're going to talk about today like the astrology of july 2026 which is part of why we wanted to have this conversation now is stuff that the last time this happened was 6 000 years ago so like you know astrologers are looking back 6 000 years ago to try to get clues for what july 2026 is going to be like so it's a cool lens and i just invite anyone who's watching this maybe a little

skeptical to just like see if you get anything interesting out of this because i certainly did and that's why i've been doing it for eight years now yes i mean so let's jump into it again we we decided intentionally to wait a couple of months to record because of what's happening in july of 2026 and before we hit record uh you said there's some setup we need to do what's already happened and so i guess maybe start with the connection to 6 000 years ago what happened then and then come back to today and what has happened recently and what may we be able to expect next month Yeah, totally. So, you know, when you look at a lot of people know sun sign astrology, right? That's like you said, you're a Gemini. It's just based on your birthday. And so the cycle of a sun sign or sun cycle is one year. That's how long it takes the Earth to go around the sun. That's how long it takes the sun to go around the zodiac. So, you know, this is kind of fun and interesting, but if you want to look at things like the rise and decline of civilizations or, you know, philosophical movements or political movements or the evolution of technology, you really can't look at like a one year cycle.

You know, that's that's not long enough. But because we have the outer planets that are much further away, we get much longer cycles. And so, for example, Pluto, which is the furthest out planet, I mean, you know, controversial planet ID, but we use Pluto as a planet in astrology. That takes 250 years to go the whole way around the sun. And so you get a 250 year cycle. Maybe some people are familiar with Ray Dalio's 250 year cycle of empire rise and decline. That's like a famous one that he talks about. That is the Pluto return cycle. That's like the Uranus return cycle, which is 84 years. Fourth turning is 80 years. Like we see these cycles kind of emerge in other schools of thought that are not necessarily rooted in astrology. But because we have all these other planets, we have these much longer term cycles that

we can look at. And in addition to those individual planet cycles, we also have planets making aspects to each other. So you could imagine Pluto is here and then 180 degrees away is Jupiter. And so they're kind of at war with each other. there's like an opposition going between those two energies. So as astrologers, we look at those sort of, you know, kind of geometric setups in order to figure out what's the dynamic of energies at play. And so 2026 is one of those years where many of the outer planets, so these are the long

term cycles, the energies that have to deal with civilization and societal transformation. These planets are making incredible aspects to each other. It's literally like a perfect basket. There's an astrologer, S.J. Anderson. I highly recommend looking him up if you guys are interested in this kind of stuff. The basket of planets in July 2026, where you have Pluto, Uranus, Neptune and Jupiter all forming exact alignments with each other at four degrees of their respective signs. And this is what I was saying has not happened for 6000 years. And you know, these are these are all of the outer planets interacting. So each of them deals with different themes. So Pluto deals with the transformation and death and rebirth of cycles. That's why there's the empire rise and decline 250 year cycle that aligns with Pluto. Neptune deals with spiritual theses or ideas of what's possible. So, for example, Neptune ends up having a lot of a lot to do with the Soviet Union or, you know, ideas around like we can have like a technocratic civilization and we can organize society this way. Like whenever you get really crazy Neptunian alignments, you often see sort of utopian or idealistic ideas come in of what's possible for humanity. Similarly, Uranus is like the rebel without a cause. There's all these, you know, I could keep going on and on.

But basically, we have all of these different energies that are interacting with each other and aligning perfectly in July of 2026. And historically, like a lot of the astrologers that were before this time period saw this as being a very, very positive time for those people who are interested in like new age stuff. And they're like, Oh, we're at the dawning of the age of Aquarius. We're at the dawning of the new age. They saw 2026 as like the pre and post moment for the age of Aquarius, for the dawning of this new age. And so they thought of it very positively. For those of us that are living in June 2026, or maybe early July 2026, depending on when you're listening to this, it doesn't necessarily feel that way. so i think there's kind of like an interesting disconnect and i think that's something um that's sort of like a part of this as well is like you know you're living in heaven or in hell depending on how you uh go with the flow and kind of surf the wave or fight the transition that's coming um and i don't say that to say like you know you should kyc to anthropic uh in order to use fable five because that's the the way the things are going like there's there's some individual choice there. But you definitely see in people where, you know, there's a lot of people who don't want

to admit that the future is happening, or they think that they can prevent technology from advancing. And they're just finding themselves on the losing side of the battle time and time again. And they're very, very fatalistic about the future. They don't want to have kids, you know, they don't want to be a part of this society. Versus, you know, I look at Bitcoin as one of these things and the movement behind Bitcoin, where, you know, Bitcoin is hope, right? Bitcoin is something that gave a lot of people a path forward to say, okay, maybe technology is not all bad. Maybe there are technological solutions that can emerge that can actually make the world better. Maybe we can have better money, a more fair value system than we've ever had in all of

human history. So, you know, I think regardless of whether you're into astrology or not, you know, that we're living through very transformative times. And the astrology indicates that July 2026 is one of these really big peak moments if we go back 6 000 years so we talked about that before the last time that this happened this was kind of the first time that we got um cities forming like like very primitive urbanization um there's an astrologer dan waits who i also recommend if you're into technology astrology he pointed out that the cylinder seal which was this like archaeological artifact was created around this time that was basically a ledger of verifying identity to transactions. So let's say that you were someone who sold a certain good in a

marketplace. The cylinder seal was basically a way of saying, yep, you're that person. And so you're selling this thing. So, you know, think about what we're going through right now. You know, central bank digital currencies, although really, it's more just like privately owned stable coins seem to be doing it. KYC, digital identity surveillance, these kind of themes are coming back around. So he kind of made that point around digital identity and surveillance that this might be a big part of it. And I tend to agree with him there. Another historical example is the Varna Necropolis, which is a burial site in present day Bulgaria. This was the first record of highly wealth stratified society. So these burial sites that we find had some burial sites where

people were adorned in tons of gold jewelry, you know, just over the top ostentatious kind of burial displays. And then some people were just sort of thrown in. And so this is kind of the first time that we start to see the emergence of, you know, think about this. This is 4300 BC. This is like a long, long time ago. This is the first time that we start to see the emergence of that sort of wealth stratification within a single society. So these are the kind of themes again, this is like so long ago, it's very, very difficult for us to pull out what might be happening in July. But basically, what we see is very extreme wealth stratification and wealth inequality, and the need to verify yourself in order to transact. Those are like two very obvious

things that come out and sort of surveillance in general. So you know, I don't know, I'm sure you have like thoughts on these kind of themes not from the astral astrological perspective so i'm curious like what you think of that or if you see any of that emerging yourself i mean objectively the the first trillionaire was printed last week so it's hard to deny that that that wealth stratification in dislocation exists i mean the k-shaped economy has been a theme on this show for well over a year now and obviously digital id is is a battle that we're on the front lines of as well i mean literally talked about it right before yeah i mean my my sort of take i will see if fable 5 is back by the time this episode's posted like who knows but kind of seems to me

like they're trying to just do kyc right isn't that like that's the whole narrative with the foreign nationals and everything is they're like we have this valuable thing that you want like we have super intelligence that you really want access to because you believe that it's your only path to escape the permanent underclass and in order to get it you have to play by our rules you have to dox yourself you have to kyc yourself like that that's to me seems like the obvious setup but i don't know i don't know if that's what you guys talked about or if that's like where your mind's going yeah i mean it seems i think matt and i were discussing as like you could see many many reasons for why this happened like it could simply be the department of war was

pissed at anthropic because they didn't want to give the military kill decision using their models you could see it being legitimate like the models were legitimately trivially jailbroken and systemically um put critical systems at systemic risk uh of vulnerability you can see it being complete k-fob maybe they're maybe they're in the background talking to each other like hey anthropic we really want this regulatory mode we want to be one of the few players that's able to actually um bring these models to market and then profit from them uh and so like if if you uh pull fable five and we get to the table and agree here's how we're going to do things and you stamp a a licensing kyc aml regime uh on top of on top of the industry we're fine with that as

long as we get to to ride ride the wave and profit from it i could definitely see that being a scenario and then on top of that too like earlier today finsen and the fed came out and basically first rule set um coming forth from the genus act is you need to kyc aml all of your users and that one was very predictable in the crypto space i mean matt and i've been basically calling like saying like this is the end state like they're centrally controlled there's no reason to believe that the government will not bring the bsa kyc aml compliance rules to stable points to and lo and behold it's happening and i think similarly with ai being naive i think it won't happen there as well yeah i mean i think um it seems like we're inevitably going towards a

high surveillance state um and i think it's interesting like the concerns on an individual level that you have about surveillance sort of vary person to person i think a lot of times people just say like surveillance and like oh that's so scary i don't want to be watched and it's like well why don't you want to be watched or what you know what are the actual reasons and a lot of people would say privacy right they want to have the the ability to kind of do whatever it is that they want to do without having to live in this like a perfect 100 like social credit score type of situation where they get punished for not following the rules correctly um but i think another aspect of this that's maybe not quite surveillance but i think is tied into it is

narrative control. Like, you know, if you, if you kind of have a sense of these are the groups of people that think X, Y, or Z, and these are the things that are important to them. And, uh, you know, for a lot of people who are using AI extensively, it's like an extension of their brain at this point, you know, they, they can't do their job without it, or, or if they had to go back to doing their job without it, it would be kind of a relearning process. And that's just going to get more and more cemented. The further down this pipeline we go is I think, um, you know, it's not so much that these AI companies or the government or like whoever is like the scary figure that you're afraid of surveilling you, um, wants to punish you all the time and, you know,

send you to jail for wrong think or whatever. It's that it wants to be able to monitor the currents of thought and to be able to control the narrative. And I think, um, something that's happened over, you know, the last 15 years or so is that the mainstream way of narrative control has completely fallen apart for example i just watched disclosure day which is like the new spielberg ufo movie have you have you seen it then i dropped a couple days ago didn't it yeah it was it's honestly not like worth seeing in my opinion it was technically correct like the ufo alien stuff was very in line with what that community uh is saying so that part was cool but um so much of the movie revolved around this idea of like just get the disclosure stuff to the media and put it

on the news station and everyone's going to see it and they're all going to believe it. And it's like, you know, if you saw CNN being like, aliens are real, you guys, like, here's a real alien that we have a video of, you'd be like, oh, I guess ratings were low. You know, I guess they needed to like do something to boost attention, right? Like the ability for mainstream media to control the narrative and to control what people know and what people think is completely falling apart. But I think AI basically creates a new way for that to happen. Right. Like if you have these models that are allowed to give you certain answers and not allowed to give you other answers, that becomes the norm. You know, like, for example, I've had the experience of using ChachiBT to talk through like random medical stuff. And now ChachiBT will be like, you should probably see a doctor, you should probably consult a lawyer, like it's much more deferential to experts and credentialism than it used to be, even though it's like, you know, you're super intelligence, right? Like you could probably know a lot more than any human doctor or lawyer could tell me based on the information that I'm giving you. And so I think like it's not just that we're getting KYC in this sort of like they're going to send me to jail for wrong thing type of way, but it's like you won't be able to tell what's true and they will sort of regain control over truth that they've started to sort of lose over the last couple decades of the Internet emerging.

um again this is why it's like funny to see that the new age astrologers of the 20th century looked at this time as being like we're entering into a technological utopia i mean if you look at um a lot of the early creators of the internet like the the cypherpunk libertarians right they had a very different vision of what the internet could be and so i do think there's this kind of duality just to give a little bit of a positive spin here like just because the major forces that be want you to behave a certain way does not mean that you have to just fall in line right like there are things like bitcoin you can run your own sovereign ai model and get access to a version of this super intelligence without just being completely beholden to however they want to

change it to control your narrative like there is an ability to have individual choice here even if that's not what the majority of people on the planet are doing if that makes sense like i think we've kind of seen this with bitcoin even over the last couple years is um you know a lot of people thought that uh the average person was going to become orange pilled and they were all going to realize the amazing sovereignty that bitcoin could allow them and you know they would totally change their life around bitcoin values like a lot of bitcoiners have done but has that happened in this cycle. I mean, did you see that in the most recent bull run? Not at all, right? So I do think like, there's something to be said for the current of society going in a certain way,

and that being kind of apocalyptic or dystopic. But at the same time, there's never been more tools available to you to live a free thinking sovereign life, like both of those things are happening concurrently. So I do feel like there's a duality aspect. And I think part of that is that a lot of this is is uh gemini influenced actually since he brought up being a gemini there's the the evil twin right like gemini is all about duality trump is a gemini he was born on an eclipse xi jinping is a gemini i believe his birthday is a day after trump's not the same year but they're both like i think june 14th and 15th gemini's so we've got a lot of like this duality kind of um with the good comes the bad there's light and darkness and darkness and light

to all of this. So just to kind of give a little bit of encouragement, like even though this is the way things are heading, it also forces you to think about your own individual setup. Like when Fable 5 was taken away, my household started looking into sovereign AI. What would it look like to run an AI ourselves? What would it look like to invest in a setup that actually gave us answers quick enough that it wasn't such a huge drawback compared to using ChachiBT and Claude? So, you know, just like Bitcoin tends to run up when the Fed is just like printing money and like completely debasing the dollar. It's like sometimes you have to have these darker forces that push you to make the change that you need in order to, like, align yourself with the right path. So, Freaks, this report was brought to you by good friends at BitKey.

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alarm bells are going off in the valley easy one of the direct or paraphrase quotes from our conversation is like people are actually taking open source seriously now where they thought it was they were interesting pet projects before but to your point fable 5 being pulled really sent a shot across the bow of of the valley and has people seriously considering like okay how do i run this stuff locally on open open models open weight open source models yeah i mean if the government did a great job of running fiat currency like if it managed its money responsibly like a lot of us wouldn't be very into bitcoin maybe there would still be you know a pretty big like privacy contingency that's interested in that kind of thing but a lot of the like dollar

debasement inflation uh value proposition of bitcoin or something like gold would go away if it was well managed so it's like you know part of the um part of the decay of something that's in power or like the uh the institutional rot or whatever you want to call it like then sows the seeds for the thing to come up that is the solution that's that's the external force um so yeah you know i think i think there's there's an interesting thing i mean you know it seems like the focus is on ai right now i will also just say like astrologically uh this is not like a bitcoin price action year this is a year where we have to rediscover why we're all here in the first place I think, um, a lot of people got lost over the last couple of years with the treasury

company stuff, um, with some of these like narratives of like, oh, we're finally here. You know, we made it like, we're going to get 500 K we're going to get 1 million by 2030. Like it's all going to happen, you know? And, and, um, it stopped being about whatever it was that brought you to this initially and just started being like, I'm going to escape the permanent underclass. Like I'm going to make it, you know? And, and I think basically what we're going through right now, if you look at the astrology

of of bitcoin's chart um and the current transits bitcoin is actually wrapped up in this july 2026 stuff the um neptune placement in that in that astrological configuration is right on bitcoin's natal moon the moon is like the inner emotional yeah yeah question how does bitcoin have a astrological chart is it is it on october 31st january 3rd like what this is this is a bit of a point of controversy um i use the january 3rd 2009 chart so this is like the genesis block um i think about the white paper as essentially being conception right so we do the astrology of birth not necessarily when a child is conceived so i view it as the white paper that october 31st 2008 date is like bitcoin being conceived and then bitcoin is actually

born in its form of like being a blockchain on january 3rd 2009 so we have an exact birth time It's like 1815 UTC on January 3rd, 2009, with that chancellor on the second brink of bailouts for banks, Genesis Block, that was mined by Satoshi, presumably. And so we can look at the exact planetary positions from that time, just like I could do for you if I was looking at your natal chart or like any person that's getting an astrological reading. That's actually part of what really drew me to Bitcoin was that I was doing astrology of society and economics before I got into Bitcoin. And this can be kind of annoying because it's like, you know, when was a company born? Is it when the formation documents were filed? Like if you've ever founded a company, you know, that like, that's probably not actually really the birth of the company, right? Like you had the ideas before, maybe you made the handshake agreement and then the forms took six weeks or whatever to be processed.

Like there's a little bit of a, if you want to do astrology of companies or even gold, right? Golden element. Like I can't look at gold as like a birth chart, but Bitcoin has an exact birth. And so like I could do very precise astrology of Bitcoin. Um, astrology is actually what got me into Bitcoin in the first place. and then I stayed for like the hard money sovereign individual of it all.

But yeah, so you can do astrology of Bitcoin. So for example, Bitcoin's a Capricorn sun, Aries moon. So its moon is at four degrees Aries. I mentioned earlier that this four degree point is the one that's getting all of these alignments. So Neptune is just about at or approaching four degrees Aries right now. Neptune, as I said, is that like dreaming a new dream,

like, oh my gosh, is this possible? Is this a world that we could live in? Is this a society that could work? It's something I maybe never thought was possible before, but now I have this new idea and maybe it's idealistic, but maybe it will work or maybe it won't. You know, it's that sort of like push-pull between reality and dreams.

And we're getting that right on Bitcoin's natal moon. Moon is like the emotional inner world. I think of Bitcoin's Aries moon as being like the fighter spirit of Bitcoin. The thing that's like, it won't be defeated. It will continue to fight. The thing that a lot of people are drawn to in Bitcoin is that kind of like um what's like the honey badger phrase you know what i mean like that

anti-fragility of the network all that yes exactly so that needs a new dream i think that right now um you know people are sort of looking at something like micro strategy and they're saying like oh no you know if micro strategy fails like maybe bitcoin's gonna fail maybe that's gonna bring everything down it's like okay well if micro strategy like building a financial rube goldberg machine on top of bitcoin in order to try to get yield which is something that everyone has tried to do for the entirety of bitcoin by the way like causes bitcoin to fail then like this was never going to succeed right so i do think we kind of have to do a little bit of the um kill your heroes figure out why you were here in the first place uh find the heart and soul of bitcoin again type

of thing this year uh it's not not necessarily like a price action year because price is is you know price going up is not when you realize why you're here in the first place right like you need to actually go through the motions of of thinking through from first principles and you know i'm sort of rambling at this point but i've done my own sort of soul searching around bitcoin this year and i think the thing is is like there's really nowhere else to go right like there's no other asset uh for wealth preservation or for sovereign money except maybe gold bars you know but i still think bitcoin is better than gold so i think these kind of conversations internally and in the community are what we need to be having around bitcoin this year um how did i get on

this point what were we talking about so i'm like gone in a million directions inflection point Neptune, um, uh, hitting the four degree marks soon, the lunar moon. Oh yes. I was, I was sort of saying like, I think that, you know, Bitcoin is wrapped up in this, but I, I think a lot of the, um, the drama and the news that you'll see will be much more focused on AI. Like AI is the main character right now, if that makes sense. It's not, Bitcoin is sort of this thing in the background, that that may or may not, you know, be hurt or benefit from the AI bubble, depending on how things go. So I really think that July is about AI, surveillance, digital intelligence, like what it means to be able to access digital intelligence, or, you know, in my in my view, what we're

creating is kind of like a hive mind consciousness as well, you know, it's like being trained on all of our data, and then we're shaping our thoughts around it, and everything feeds back into itself. So, again, there's like a lot of layers to what AI actually is and how it's fitting into our society. But I personally think a lot of the stuff this summer will not be so much focused on Bitcoin, but but AI. AI is going to be the main character for sure. Yeah, I've seen you tweet. I think we've discussed DMs, too. You think Sam Altman in OpenAI particularly, it's going to be a big month for them specifically.

like what like again going into like the age of aquarius and neptune new beginnings that's what i that's what i'm wondering like what i mean you can see the setup for something big happening in a couple weeks here with fable 5 being pulled and um trump coming to to elon's defense of the data center build out in memphis and you can feel this tension in the ai space because things are progressing so quickly and people are on the cutting edge getting access to these models and leverage them and are leveraging them are seeing like oh my gosh this is this is powerful and i want more of this and you have to imagine the government saying like yes it is powerful i do understand you want more of it but uh it may be too powerful to let out of our grasp and so we

put some rules in order here yeah i think that's that's part of the question is who's more powerful the government or ai um you know something i noticed so i live in california and something i noticed is uh there was kind of no governor's race this year um i don't know if you follow california politics or anything like that but you know california is the like fourth largest economy in the world now thanks to the ai bubble it's a huge huge power to be running of course it has its problems so it's like you know it's not necessarily the best job to be governor of california but you would think that anthropic or open ai both of whom are headquartered in san Francisco would care about the outcome of something like the governor's race. And like, I kind of

expected that they were going to put forward, you know, some kind of J.D. Vance type of figure who would be on their side, but kind of pretend that they're not. But, you know, clearly like like sort of like the Peter Thiel, J.D. Vance relationship. I thought that we were going to see something like that happen in the California election. And we didn't see that at all. In fact, no one really even ran. Like if you look at the two people that got through the primaries, you won't know either of their names because they're complete nobodies. And so I looked at this and was trying to understand like, how, how is AI letting this happen? Not like AI, the models, but more like the institution and the money behind AI, because you know, the, the public outcry against AI is

quite extreme, right? Like you could imagine a California that becomes extremely untenable for the AI companies. I mean, for example, like Los Angeles as a city is very anti-AI because that's the home of entertainment and writers and Hollywood, right? Like they're not pro-AI in Southern California. So I kind of looked at this as like, are the AI people just like not wanting to, you know, bring attention to themselves and like get the sort of smoke that someone like Peter Thiel has gotten? What's going on? And what it seems like to me is it seems like the AI companies are basically banking on reaching AGI. So reaching some sort of state where it doesn't matter what governments or businesses or whoever's in charge, like they have ultimate super

intelligence. And so they're going to completely rewrite the world order, or they already know that government officials are using AI. And so they already have soft control over everyone because they're the ones who control the models. These are like the only two scenarios that I think make any sense given the situation with what we are seeing in electoral politics. And so I kind of went on that California tangent because I think that while it may seem like the government has a lot of power, it, the actual reality is that money is what has power, you know, um, whoever has the money that they can donate to a campaign, you know, you look at something like Elon Musk and Trump in 2024 or Peter Thiel and J.D. Vance, like if you have money, you can shape politics much

more than any sort of individual force. Now, that's different from the intelligence agencies or the deep state, like they have their own sort of things that they're trying to do and agendas that they're following. But it's starting to seem to me like tech is taking over the government. Palantir is becoming like the surveillance state that we used to fear from the NSA or the CIA. Um, you know, all of these sort of leaders are getting a lot of power, uh, not directly by running for office themselves or by having candidates openly say like, I'm pro AI, or I think tech is great, but you know, you see something like open AI partner with the department of war.

And it's like hard to not see that as AI and the tech companies becoming the government. Um, I also think like, you know, if you look at, we thought that CBDCs were going to be such a thing, right? We thought that the government was going to roll out their digital currency and force us all to use it. But what's actually happened is that we've just had these like private companies like Tether that are sort of filling that role. And so I think it's more that we're seeing this public private partnership form where the power is not necessarily in the government itself. It's in these offshoot corporations that have immense power over the government. So maybe that's not a useful distinction.

Maybe it's like whatever. That's just the capital T they and they're controlling everything. um but i do think it's interesting to then look at what do these ai people think about the future and a lot of them have extremely dystopic ideas like you mentioned sam altman sam altman did world coin before all of this like do you remember world coin yep yeah uh you know world coin for those who are not familiar with sam altman's crypto project that basically wanted to scan everyone's retina in order to verify that they were human and reward them with world coin that then they could like use as one world currency right like this is like an insanely dystopic idea

um but yeah this is this is sam altman's view and sam altman similarly uh really used to believe in like ubi he used to talk about ubi all the time that ai was going to get rid of all these jobs and so we need ubi recently he started talking about universal base open ai stock that's where he's pivoted i'm like not even kidding like now he doesn't even see it like oh we should have like our own bank accounts or whatever. It's more like how bought in to my system and my power structure are you going to be? And then that's going to determine your class in society and how successful you are. So freaks, when you take Bitcoin seriously, you start with custody. You want to control your keys, avoid single points of failure, and make sure your savings cannot

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when i was still in austin so it's a four-part series he did two a week for two weeks i was able to make the first and third uh lectures of the four-part series it was very interesting um actually i think it was the first and last i made one in four oh that's good those are probably the ones to go to right yeah and uh it was very interesting i think a lot of what um basically the whole thesis of and like i can hear freaks listening to this right now like you went to peter shiel it's like we've been talking about on the podcast we've been talking about palantir everybody's worried about like the Illuminati we just talked about them on rabbit hole recap I was like yeah like if we're gonna talk about them maybe we should see them up close and personal

but the whole sure you have to bear witness that's what I always tell people like if you catch me on some like Epstein flight log like yeah I'm gonna go because I need to see what's going on like that's that's just my thing I like to witness things so you know you got to go to the Peter Thiel Antichrist lecture series like yeah and his whole the whole core argument of the lecture series was like too many people are focused on armageddon like the end of the world rapture when they should be more worried about the antichrist and it was like drawing a distinction between the two describing what each thing looks like rapture like god comes down and you get judged and either go to hell or you go to heaven or you have some cataclysmic sort of asteroid event

that takes out the world or some grid failure whatever it may be um volcano eruption and then mostly his argument was that most people are worried about that cataclysmic event not enough people are focused on the antichrist and so the antichrist lecture series is about defining trying to define what the antichrist may look like when it emerges and ai was obviously a common thread at least through the two lectures that i like that i attended um and that was basically what he was trying to argue in this lecture series is like too many people are focused on armageddon uh in rapture and not focused on the antichrist and i think that is basically his argument was like you're leaving the door open for the antichrist to actually emerge

and take over and ai was a big focus is like we have to be worried about ai and i think his argument was like yeah it's it's can turn into a surveillance state it can do all these things and um there's no but this main point was like there's no putting the genie back in into the lamp like you need to lean in and try to leverage the tools in a way that equip you to be able to combat the antichrist for lack of better term this was over a year ago now at this point so it's not exactly clear but that's what i remember taking away from it yeah i think um you know if I put it in astrological terms, because all of this sort of like revelations and the kind of story of Christianity and Christ, all of that fits into astrology. I mean, I've used this line

a million times, but the three wise men looking for a star that signaled the coming of Christ, those are astrologers. Those were three astrologers that were looking for the beginning of the age of Pisces and they found the exact time and place and they showed up at the manger And they were like, yes, we're the best astrologers in the world. We just figured this out like sick. So, you know, the birth of Christ fits into astrological narratives. This is the beginning of the age of Pisces. Jesus is the canonical Pisces.

That's why you have the Christian fish symbolism. The fish is Piscean symbolism. And so the age of Pisces is astrologically like this is astronomical fact. I'm not even like doing mythology here. This is an astronomical fact that it started at the birth of Christ. And then we transition from the age of Pisces into the age of Aquarius around the year 2000. So this is why like new agey people are always talking about like, we're at the dawning of the age of Aquarius, you know, all that kind of stuff, because that's that's this like 2000 year cycle that's that's emerging. And so one of the things that I've always thought interesting about the Revelations narrative and the Antichrist and all of that kind of coming around now where it seems like we are living in end times, as described by Christian faith, is like, okay, well, you know, if Christ began the last astrological age, it does seem like some second coming would be a part of the beginning of the next age.

or like you wouldn't get the second coming of Christ while you're only halfway through the age of Pisces, right? Like it makes sense that it would happen now and, and that it would take a different form. So I think a lot of people are looking for, cause you know, the, the deal with the antichrist is the antichrist comes and we think it's Christ. And then like, he ends up being like, Oh no, I'm not good. I'm actually bad. And then like things go bad. And then after that, the real Christ emerges, right? Like, you know, that's, that's sort of like the TLDR. Um, I think a lot of people are looking for individual figureheads right they're looking to someone like trump you know or uh if it's the antichrist side they're looking at like well peter teal might

be the antichrist or elon musk might be might be the antichrist they're looking for like human beings um this was an interesting detail of peter's lecture is that he thinks like the antichrist has to be almost a direct reflection of the actual christ and so they have to be like around 33 years old like it was one of the core arguments he made is like if the antichrist is going to be human they have to be younger and maybe he was just trying to disqualify himself maybe it's the slight of hand but uh um that was another core point he made which i thought was interesting that is really interesting i mean i think if if there is an antichrist coming around it's definitely an aquarius i'll just say that now like that's that's for sure the situation um

But part of why I'm skeptical of it being a human being or taking shape in like that sort of human form is because Aquarius is a sign of decentralization. That's part of why the age of Aquarius and studying that astrologically brought me to Bitcoin is because Bitcoin has a lot of these properties that are Aquarian in nature. Aquarius is about interacting with other people while not losing your own individuality. individuality. So in the Pisces era, we were much more likely to dissolve into hierarchical structures and say, okay, I don't have direct access to God, but maybe my pastor does. And then maybe the Pope above him does. And you had to go through these hierarchical institutions in order to access God or to access power or to access wealth or whatever it is. And Aquarius basically flattens all of that into a mycelial network. Now, that doesn't mean that everyone's

going to then, you know, we're going to be in like some sort of communist world where everyone is equal. Certainly not. Right. We're seeing like very, very high wealth inequality emerging as the age of Aquarius starts. But what it does mean is that like the networks are going to be decentralized. So you might be here and you have all these connections around you that, you know, maybe Either Peter Thiel or Elon Musk or whoever, and that's who you have available to you. Or maybe you're over in another part of the network and you only have access to, you know, other people that aren't in power. So it's more of this like kind of decentralized, weird power structure that's not it's not like pyramid shaped in the same hierarchical way. um so with that it's like it's hard to imagine that you get some sort of antichrist or christ

like figure who's able to captivate collective consciousness in that way i mean i always actually make this point that like we don't have huge huge superstars anymore like if you look at like someone like michael jackson like it's impossible to get enough people to care about one person because media is so decentralized our attention is so fractured like what matters to you and what you think is like oh my god this is the big news of the day you go talk to someone at the grocery store and they haven't even heard of it you know like if you ask like people at the grocery store like who's peter teal i bet a lot of them have never heard of him right so i don't know that like the i don't know that there's even the ability to have like a person or a character

emerge that becomes as influential as what was possible in the past. Like, I think it has to be some sort of decentralized structure. And that's why, like, I feel like AI is a better candidate, because that's more of the infrastructure of thought and consciousness itself, right? That can easily spread all throughout the world and into your mind in ways that you don't even realize necessarily just by small model updates right so i don't know i i know peter teal also like put greta thunberg like forward like he was like maybe it's greta it's like bro no one cares about greta like it was it was one of the examples he gave but he's just like i think he was trying to basically elicit like this is the the archetype of the person you should be looking for he's

trying to put it put it off him you know he's like no no it's over there it's over there yeah and the um because it's crazy just like the energy the last two weeks like you look at like the the ceasefire deal in iran you look at the world cup in the u.s the ufc fight on the lawn the the 250th anniversary obviously of the declaration of independence right around the corner and you just have to feel this culmination of energy and to be honest in the united states um from my perspective vibes are very high right now um there certainly are that that disconnection and that dislocation of wealth is there but like you can see it in some pockets like ai particularly on the infrastructure build out it is giving blue collar workers

welders and electricians like high-paying jobs the spacex ipo obviously it made elon a trillionaire and if the stock price stays where it is now like he also minted 4 500 millionaires within his own company many of which were low-level cafeteria workers and so um yeah that's what like my big question like what the hell is going to happen next month because again next month too you have 250th anniversary of the united states and obviously there's been a lot of preparation and momentum and energy leading up to that uh you have trump for revitalizing dc i think like the the washington monument um whatever that is called pond like redoing that like like and despite what's happening uh at the political level like right versus left uh i don't

know i'm sensing like people are feeling more patriotic more proud to be american maybe it's just my convoluted perspective or not maybe not convoluted perspective but just my my lens uh and how I'm seeing it and maybe that's what the algo is feeding me but uh that's so funny that you that's so funny that you say that because I feel like I've seen not exactly the exact opposite but a different flavor of this which is uh you see the Knicks winning in New York and Zoran Mamdani kind of like riding that wave and like you know in terms of I think Zoran is is sort of the last figure of the left right like who can you point to that really seems like they're they're able to kind of amass uh interest and power it's kind of just zoron zoron was successful in that

mayoral mayoral race and like to have something like the knicks win for the first time in like however many years and like new york is like all up like they're feeling so good like it's i think it's it's happening in different um again it's like it's not this pyramid structure anymore like trump might have his circle around him that's like yeah america 250 like we love the ufc events at the white house lawn like whatever but that's so separate from other spheres right like so i think i think we have this very um fractured zomra mamdani 34 same there you go wait he i wonder if he was 33 when he got elected he's born october 18th i just checked so yeah i think he would have been 33 when he was elected interesting um we'll see he came out of nowhere dude came out of nowhere

he did yeah um i mean he's kind of like i doubt he'll run in 2028 i mean i imagine he wants to do a full term in new york but um legally be able to maybe too young or no he no he's he's oh yeah Yeah, he's probably right. Just barely maybe old enough to run. I mean, you look at someone like Barack Obama, right? Like Barack Obama was like meteoric, very, very fast rise. So you could see Zoran Mamdani following that track or like someone else who hasn't emerged yet. But I don't know, I do think like, it's like AI people think like, they're gonna find AGI and like, they're gonna be so wealthy, and it's gonna be amazing. Or like Trump fans are like, yeah, like, we're gonna negotiate the peace deal. Like it does seem like vibes are high in a certain way. I kind of, I, I tend to agree with you, but at the same time, you know, look at us as Bitcoiners, right? We're in like, uh, Bitcoin's at like 62 or something right now. Like, uh, not all is good.

And I think a lot of people feel a lot of uncertainty about their jobs, right? Like they don't know there's a lot of tech layoffs. Um, they don't know if they're going to be able to continue working in their field of expertise in three years, five years, 10 years, whatever, uh, college grads everywhere are like booing the commencement speakers because they're like bro I don't have any jobs coming out of this degree and I just spent three hundred thousand dollars on this and I'm you know that much in the hole and I'm only 21 so I don't know it's I think that that maybe speaks to the uh the heaven and hell experience that I was talking about before where um you know if you're able to

kind of notice what's going on and just align yourself correctly such that you can get what you want out of it, you know, that's sort of like a materialistic, like negative way of saying it, but just that you can find your own way and forge your own path through that, but not expect that the world is going to form itself around you or go back from what it seems inevitable, like, like the cat's out of the bag, right? Like, this is what's happening. And you kind of just have to accept that those types of people, I think, are finding a lot of opportunity. We're living in a time of extreme opportunity, right? But at the same time, there's a lot of people who feel extremely like stunted like they they can't picture themselves in the future they can't

picture what their future will look like and if they do it's negative right so i don't know we have both things i think that are happening in terms of just giving a little bit of the astrological timeline just so that people have exact dates so the peak of this alignment is july 15th through 25th these are very slow moving planets so it's not like you know it gets into alignment and it's like, ah, and then you have, you know, your crazy moment in the sky and then it's done. These are very slow moving planets. So that's sort of just the peak. We're going to be feeling it all throughout July. And then August, we go into eclipse season and eclipse season is always chaotic. So kind of what I expect is that the pieces will come into place during

July. And if you're like a noticer, if you're paying attention, if you're reading between the lines, you will see what's happening, but it's not until those eclipses in August that there will be those like tower collapsing moments. The eclipses specifically are August 12th and 28th. So those are like two dates that I would, for example, FTX collapsed on an eclipse. Like, I think that's a great example where if you could see the writing on the walls, if you were paying attention to how Sam Bankman freed and FTX was operating, you might've known that this was inevitable and you might've thought like, okay, this is like a tower that's going to collapse eventually, but you need like that, you know, stark moment of something like an eclipse to actually make it happen. And

then it feels inevitable in retrospect, but at the time you're like, whoa, I can't believe this is happening at this moment. Right. So I kind of suspect that we're going to see the pieces falling into place, you know, over the next six weeks, but we won't actually see those, those sort of revelations coming out into the public, um, potentially until August. Um, I also looked at MicroStrategy's chart because I was investigating that and I will say like Michael Saylor and MicroStrategy are both very uh implicated in the eclipses in August so um if you're like a strategy investor and you're looking for like um are things going to turn up like in my favor are things going to go up eclipses are not the time for uh favorable things I'm not saying

strategy is going to collapse or anything like that um but I do think there's going to have to be some like major major reconcilings on Michael Saylor's part in August that's definitely something that I think will be happening for him um so I don't know I mean I'm looking at my notes just to see like what else I have to make sure that I'm not missing I mean really I think that the main thing is like we are moving into an era of decentralization for better or for worse and so if you're looking for some sort of like institution to make everything right or you're looking for like a silver bullet where you don't have to do anything and things just get figured out for you like that's not that's not where we're going if you if you allow society to make decisions for you

you're gonna end up in that like permanent underclass bucket right like you're gonna be highly surveilled you're gonna be paying subscription service and rent for everything that you use you're not gonna own anything uh maybe you'll be happy i don't know maybe you'll own nothing you'll be happy like they said but that's not the future that i want so i think a lot of this is about figuring out like okay just because society is headed in this certain direction or uh you know things seem like they're they're taking shape in this way how can i forge my own path along that such that i am traveling with it but not just like going with whatever the mainstream version of it is like how can i how can i use this to my advantage to carve out

the life that i want that's not me just like fighting against the current over and over and over again um yeah which is individual right like that's that's an individual journey what do you think the the do you think it's a big event or you think it's just a series of events of well we didn't talk about ufos yeah well was trump on the front lawn with representatives from agartha last week he's there with the nordic aliens was that real or is that ai generic dude i don't know i have like there's really no way to know um i heard both but it's like i i have no idea i mean i you know if you didn't already think i was crazy for you know an hour of astrology ramblings like maybe now you'll think i'm crazy i definitely believe that we've had contact with other

entities whether that's like angels and demons or aliens like maybe that line is kind of blurry and you know like we have like a sci-fi idea of what things could look like which is like aliens living on other planets and then we have like a religious narrative which is things like the catholic miracles or um you know interactions with angels and demons or the coming of christ or whatever right like kind of depends on your language how you interpret these sort of events but it does seem like these things are real and that they're being admitted that said like the rollout is so garbage it's like hard to it's hard to see like what they're trying to do with this like it doesn't even really seem like oh they're gonna like co-opt disclosure and like use it to like

form a new world order whatever like they're not even doing that they're just like vibe coding a website with claude and being like hey guys check out the documents like let us know what you think it's like the lamest disclosure ever but it does seem like that's happening so i don't know i i kind of wonder what that will look like or if that will play into things here uh at all because that seems like the other thing where you know if you're looking for some sort of ontological shock event like what else is left like there's no other thing that could happen besides alien reveal um that i think would would even have that sort of like ground shaking type of energy to it maybe dropping a nuke but i don't think that's like where we're headed either

hopefully that doesn't happen yeah agreed yeah i mean honestly hopefully the alien reveal doesn't happen if it's going to happen in like a fucked up way either you know i'd rather it stay a secret so yeah the newscast is going to start going the uh they're going to do a flash mob on cnn and they're all going to start like clicking on their their desks in hopes that you'll watch their programming yeah it is i mean because you've you've had a just the the teasing of the disclosure going on for years now and i think it had way more momentum last year um around this time than it does now it seems like it died off i don't know if it was the war in iran whatever it may be but um i think people can't handle it like they don't

even you know if you went to a lot of people and you were like hey aliens are real they'd be like okay and i have rent due you know like i don't i don't want to deal with this it's like i think it's a bit um it's a bit too much i think for people because because the problem is at least how i see it from my understanding of a lot of these uh ufo experiencer types of interactions is like we don't know what they want you know it's not like it's not like these events happen and they're like hey you know we're gonna take over your your planet or uh we're gonna you know get you guys to be a part of the galactic federation council like they're not coming and saying, this is what we're going to do, or this is what you guys should do. A lot of these

experiences and interactions are, you know, it's just, it's ontologically changing for the people that it happens to, but it doesn't necessarily tell you anything about what's going on in terms of like, are these beings real? Are they time travelers? Like, you know, like there's a lot of different theories coming about. And so I think part of it is like, in order for people to be able to digest a narrative like that, they have to have a story. Like think about how important mythology has been to human understanding of complex ideas. I think that whatever's happening with these UFO interactions and experiences, I don't think people can just take them for what they are. I think they need some sort of mythology and narrative to explain them. And I just don't

think we have it. And so I think that's part of it is like, if you just do a document drop with no explanation, people aren't really going to care. I mean, you look at something like the Epstein files, like QAnon and that sort of narrative has been going on for decades at this point. There's a narrative for people to grasp onto about billionaire pedophiles and the ruling elite and all that. That's something people can actually digest, even if they don't ever look at a single document. But with the UFOs, what's the story? Does it refute religion? Does it change things fundamentally like we don't really know you know so i don't know if that will change if some sort of coherent narrative will emerge potentially that's what what we might start to see um but

until that i don't think people are gonna care like bringing it back to the the antichrist i mean they're um i mean the the catholic perspective is that the aliens are angels and demons and uh uh, who knows, maybe, maybe we're led to believe that an alien race has, has made contact and they're here and they're going to work with us and they have a leader. Um, it was, he was going to tell us the ways in which we can right the wrongs of, of what we've done on this planet and accelerate into the future. Maybe he's the antichrist. I mean, certainly we see like common characters, like, uh, I mean, it's slightly different, but like the DMT clockwork Alps, right like these are characters that people see we're talking about that why are people getting

kicked out of the dmt world it's such a maybe they're preparing you know maybe they're preparing for some sort of uh revelation i don't know um i've heard a lot i mean i've spent like the last eight months going to ufo conventions and talking to ufo people because i'm i'm actually like writing a novel about all of this so it's sort of like for my own uh creative process as well as my own like intellectual curiosity i'm like using it for both but i have heard so many narratives like it it is no one no one really knows and i think um it's hard to imagine what kind of experience would have to happen for people to actually believe one thing like we would literally i think have to have like a message telepathically delivered to all of our minds at the same time for us to

believe that something like this was really happening and not just be like did trump really meet with those nordics on the white house lawn or was that ai i don't even know you know like it's like like there's no way to verify like a universal truth anymore so i think that if there are entities out there that have any interest in establishing themselves as like a part of our lore or a part of our human story like they're gonna have to do something really big and and i don't know it seems like uh maybe they don't want that you know like that that sort of seems like they uh they don't necessarily want everyone to believe in them or they don't want to be discovered so i don't know if that will change um it's it's very hard to say but i'm i'm personally

very interested in the ufo stuff so that's kind of my like like i feel like july uh astrology kind of crazy moments are likely about ai and surveillance and you know these kind of like technological dystopic events but personally i'm like maybe it's aliens that's like what i would be most interested in the uh what is so obviously we have this alignment coming up and next month eclipses in august what happens after that like what do we settle into so what's that transition look like yeah the rest of 2026 is a lot of reworking and restructuring so um this spring like the first half of 2026 has been very very active so we started with a saturn neptune conjunction on february 20th 2026 i kind of mentioned like there's already been some stuff

that's happened in 2026 that's kind of teed this off it's not like it's not like we're waiting for the beginning of a new era a lot of us especially those of us who are vibe coding or using ai I like, you know, we feel like we're living in a fundamentally different world than we were two years ago, at least when it comes to our interactions with the computer and our ability to do things. I mean, people are able to be five different experts at once, like have a team of one to build out a website or a product, you know, all these kinds of things that are emerging as a result of AI agents and just the progress of AI. That's what I sort of think emerged with february that was sort of like um like you know i was looking at the time right like as an astrologer

i was like okay this is a big big new beginning moment and i live in the bay area so i was going and talking to a lot of ai people and seeing that realm and those people were like they're like i have 30 interns that work under me and they're all ai you know what i mean like they they were going crazy on this stuff and so i kind of see it as february was this february 2026 kind of kicked things off where we're now in this um sort of like from some perspectives you could call an ai arms race right if you want to tie the geopolitics into it and think about things like us versus china the global world order who has power is that the ai companies the governments etc that kind of got kicked off i think in february um and then july we sort of i think have

maybe like a cementing or an alignment of things where that could be, for example, the US, you know, is aligned with open AI, and they decide that they're doing XYZ. And that's the new power structure. Like, I think it's February kicked off something that will come into a more completed, perfect alignment in July. And then after that, you know, after the eclipses in August, we have a lot of reworking and rethinking around all of those themes. Astrologically speaking, the planets are going retrograde so they're they're covering path that they already went through they're not like foraging into new territory they're going back and saying okay like this idea that we had is this really real uh is this really valuable um what i kind of think

will happen is we have the ipos for a lot of these companies coming up at that time so spacex just IPO'd, uh, those, uh, employees or whoever got, um, SpaceX stock in that IPO, uh, are still locked up. They can't like sell yet. Right. They can't like convert that into something else. Um, but they will, you know, and many of them will probably buy houses or maybe they'll buy Bitcoin even, or like, you know, they'll diversify the millions and millions of dollars that they're making off of that IPO. And then you're going to see, I think open AI is scheduled for September. I mean, it's all very dependent on like market conditions, but they're aiming for September. I believe Anthropic is aiming for just after that. So, you know, you're basically going to be seeing the

public market access to all of these things that everyone is being told is the only way to escape the permanent underclass and the future. And you're not going to have a job. You're just going to have open AI stock. You know what I mean? Like there's kind of these narratives forming that remind me a lot of crypto actually like a lot of like the shit coin kind of like get in get in get in bro it's only gonna go up and then it's like at some point you know it doesn't matter how valuable the thing is it can be overbought at some point and um you know there's a whole other thing but it's like ai might be allowing a company or an individual to greatly decrease the cost of whatever it would have taken them to build whatever they're building but that value

doesn't directly go into the AI companies, right? That's just a $20 a month Claude subscription. So the value that AI is creating or destroying is not necessarily going into these companies that are IPOing, but we're certainly acting like it is, right? Like we're saying that like trillions of dollars, you know, can go into training these models and that's definitely going to reward open AI or anthropic, but maybe it won't, you know, like that, that might be the case. And so I kind of wonder if astrologically speaking this fall, if we see these IPOs happening and we actually see a rethinking of the value around these things, that maybe we had all of this hype that started building extremely in February, 2020. And we were like, Oh my God,

we're in the future. I'm going to be able to vibe code anything that I want. And then you realize, actually, you know, maybe I could use a software engineer to look at this vibe coded code. Cause It's not that good and it breaks and I don't know what to do with it. Or, you know, maybe I thought I was going to get access to Fable 5, but they're totally nerfing it because the U.S. government says they have to. Right. Like there could be these kind of pullbacks that happen around AI and our expectation. And I wonder how that might relate to the IPO schedules for these companies, because that's that's really the next big thing that's happening for AI. So we'll see, you know, things have to unfold. And I think I'm also hesitant to make solid predictions because I think July and August could be so like, you know, if you were trying to make predictions for March 2020 in December 2019, it'd be very hard to to accurately have those play out.

Right. So I'm kind of looking again, not necessarily that we're going to have a covid style event, but I'm looking at something that is sort of fundamentally changing the playing field. and so based on where things are right now and how i could see things playing out i think a reworking around ai but maybe it's ufos you know well when do we get relative calm just thinking of my life like dot com relative relative yeah dot com bubble 9-11 great financial crisis covid ai uh 2032 is like the next big like astrological like uh-oh moment because like 2001 2008 and 2020 were all like uh-oh moments for astrology and you know what you just listed are those three things 2032 is one of those i've actually pointed to that as being my date for um if bitcoin has not established itself at that point it's like not gonna work

like 2032 is kind of my timeline for um you know bitcoin can't just be this speculative asset it has to be integrated in something in some way or it has to be a a clear part of something you know beyond just our hopes and dreams and uh podcasting that we do about it you know um so yeah 2032 i think is basically i mean just actually to give sort of like the roadmap of the next couple years astrologically 2026 through 29 is all new energy coming in so i think we're going to see major major transformations around technology and how we integrate with it themes of transhumanism will probably be coming up you know what does it mean to be a human what aspects of your humanity do you want to hold on to versus which ones of them are you willing to give up for certain uh super

human strengths that technology can give you i think that's going to be really the focus of the rest of the 2020s and then 2030s yeah we have this kind of crazy um like it's it's a saturn uranus conjunction in 2032 among a couple other things that i think will be a little bit of like a stress test again who knows what the world's going to look like by then so it's very hard for me to say how it will play out but definitely as far as bitcoin is is concerned like it's it's gotta have figured something out by then um otherwise yeah it's a do or die moment for sure yeah so we're going to the valley of despair right now we are yeah what's next year looking like for bitcoin it's more positive um i think like again it sort of depends on like what

what restructuring we're we're doing around like the uh the reason why we're all here um you know i think something that i like i've kind of found myself in like an interesting world in bitcoin because like, I'm a Bitcoin astrologer. So it's kind of like a weird take to have on Bitcoin. So sometimes I end up with like the Bitcoin think boys who are doing like, Bitcoin's literally a digital battery, like type of claims about Bitcoin, because Bitcoin astrology is sort of like falls into that realm. But then because I have like my podcast with Casey, who's very much on the Bitcoin technical side of things, I also end up with a lot of devs and a lot of like, hardcore bitcoin nerds and a lot of the groups in bitcoin have very very different ideas of what

bitcoin should be uh or what success looks like and so you know we see all of these forks coming up right um we'll see if they yeah in august i i will say also i have advised all of them to do july instead of august and no one will listen to me i don't know why they won't listen to the bitcoin astrologer but um i've told them like august is not eclipse season is not the time to try to do some big chaotic change that you want to be successful it's the time to do a big chaotic change that's going to flop majorly like that's what august is um so again that's happening in august but uh yeah i don't know i think i think it's yet to be seen what will emerge from like bitcoin culture and the bitcoin movement after 2026 it is looking more positive though like i

think in terms of like price action and um the world aligning in a direction that bitcoin is also aligning and by that i mean like uh you know when we talked about things like the government printing and being irresponsible with money is good for bitcoin like it's not necessarily that everyone's going to be like yeah i love sovereign individual lifestyle it might be that the government is printing money to bail out the ai bubble popping like you know something like that and that that benefits bitcoin that's the kind of astrology that we're looking at in the first half of 2027 again not saying that's exactly what will happen but just it's more positive but i think to get there we're gonna lose a lot of people on the way and i don't mean they're gonna die but i

like they're gonna fork off you know they're gonna they're gonna get wrecked by things like micro strategy potentially having like their rube goldberg machine fall apart so um you know whatever what's the stay humble stack sats like that's always the the way right like it's if you self-custody your own bitcoin no one can take that from you and i think that's the only way to to get to more positive times so don't let uh you know don't let like the the like set of a cantist catholic pope like luke de sheer tell you that you should fork off to his chain and follow his doctrine instead. Don't let Michael Saylor convince you that you should go back to the financial system that you thought was rotten. And it's part of why you came to Bitcoin in the first

place. Like there's a reason to be here. And I think people need to reconnect with that again before we're going to have NGU come into effect. Yeah. No, it's, it's been funny. It's because when a paper Bitcoin summer happened last summer throughout the whole thing, I mean, We were cheering it on tongue in cheek, but also telling people like, hey, you're buying shares in a company that holds Bitcoin. It's not the same as holding Bitcoin. And it's been very interesting to watch, especially like in the last few weeks since Stretch has lost his peg. I think it's straight at like $83, $17 below par. And we're like, hey, guys, like stop.

parker is a good friend of mine like very vocal on twitter specifically going straight at strive and micro strategy and saying you're saying that this is better than bitcoin when it's opposite not like nothing is and you can you can see this bifurcation it's very clear to me somebody's been in and even the bit 110 people that i would add that into like a separate bifurcation but a modification nonetheless it's very obvious to me and it is funny like to your point like that i think i having been in this for a while and having been doing media around bitcoin for almost a decade now nine years we turned nine years old 10 days ago um first congrats happy birthday thank you first first newsletter i sent out was june 8th 2017 so we're officially nine years and 10 days

old as we record today and i feel like just having the pattern recognition of being in bitcoin for many years before i started writing and now obviously being immersed in the industry it's very clear to me the different factions and their perspectives and i know which faction i sit in which is stay on the stack stats use the tool the way it was supposed to be or the way when you said the way it's supposed to be used people get very triggered but i think the way it's supposed to be used is is actually um applicable here where it's peer-to-peer digital cash use it that way hold your own keys like it is your money it's fuck you money use it that way and uh we've been getting lambasted for for for putting these what i deem to be simple

truths out there like this is objectively the best way to use bitcoin and it's a it's a lot of um it's a lot of nervous energy it's becoming more nervous by the week particularly from the uh from the orange tie treasury cobros because i think they're they're realizing that uh maybe it's not everything that they've been sold it to be uh particularly yeah i mean people are getting wrecked right like that's that's the thing it's like if you just self-custody your own bitcoin you know life circumstances might mean that you have to sell it here and there in order to pay your rent or pay your mortgage or whatever but generally speaking like it's yours and there's nothing that will change the bitcoin amount in there even if the dollar amount of that bitcoin

changes but if you're doing like derivatives on top of derivatives seeking the yield like the risk is coming from somewhere and again i feel like this is a lesson that a lot of us learned when we got into bitcoin initially but greed is a sin for a reason right like greed is very powerful And it can override your rational brain, it can override a lot of the positive convictions that you have. And I think when you are constantly seeing, even if it's not real, you know, if you're constantly seeing things on on x or whatever, of people getting fabulously wealthy off of buying x, y, or z, you're getting in at this time, it's very, very tempting to abandon the stay humble stack sats mentality and say, Well, you know, I'm kind of new to this, like,

maybe i can be the fiat insider for this one you know like that's always the thing that's that's how crypto went too as you said like these narratives are run over and over again in different flavors um throughout all of bitcoin's history so it's like you know i think um i think i think bitcoin has the power to transform the natural instinct towards greed into a system where people can't um like defraud each other that's that's more like a fair value system where you don't need like that trusted third party, yada, yada. But greed is still part of it, right? Like you have your natural incentives that are part of Bitcoin, where you want to make money and you want to protect your wealth. And the structure of Bitcoin allows for you to have those incentives

and not corrupt the whole system, which is part of like the magic of it, right? But I think that greed is still there. And a lot of us, a lot of people came here for NGU technology, right? Like that's it's not necessarily even something to be ashamed of but it's like you know you want to you want to preserve your wealth you want to be able to create a better life for yourself and your family like all of these instincts can be positive instincts that get then can go towards greed and then greed can corrupt all of it so i feel like that's kind of part of it too is like the pitfalls will continue like micro strategy might not be you know the big player in bitcoin in five years because of the financial decisions that they made a year ago or are making now like

i'm not saying that's definitely the case but that could be the case um just like ftx is not around anymore even though sam bankman freed and ftx was such a huge part of that 2021 bull run um but bitcoin will still be here and so i think like that's that's kind of like the most ideal form of this restructuring around the heart and soul of bitcoin that is happening in 2026 is like people need to rediscover while they're, why they're here and hopefully continue to make that hard decision of not just like going for fast and easy, easy money, you know, that, that, that like lure that's placed in front of them all the time. Um, and instead like be convicted, you know, and believe that, that the first principles that you came to in order to come to the decision of,

yes, Bitcoin is the thing that I, that I believe is valuable. Like that you came to that for a you know and and i don't know we'll we'll see how it shakes out i don't like wish for strategy to collapse or like nakamoto to do badly or any of like the bitcoin treasury companies like i don't want to see people get wrecked but i'm sure you can relate it's like you can see this story as it's playing out you know and and i think um yeah it's hard to it's hard to like imagine that it would have gone any other way you know what i mean it's almost like people should have stayed humble and sacks that's you know it's uh it's uh well and uh to put a more positive spin on this while all the attention has been drawn towards that part of the market and i think in recent

months more negative attention towards that part of the market but it's still amassing a large portion of of the attention space of of our industry a ton of incredible like low level protocol development not not on bitcoin protocol but second layer protocol development like arc spark e-cashments and like you can see them silently unless you're paying attention you don't know this is happening but like the the interoperability between all these second layer solutions that can enable bitcoin as as true freedom money that is used as a medium of exchange on top of a store of value and a unit of account like it's happening and that's what i'm very interested to see if um picking up what you're putting down and thinking of like this

as a get back to your roots why we're here i'm very happy to know that there are a lot of people particularly on the development side that know why we're here and have stayed convicted and have built some infrastructure that I am pretty confident will be critical to getting us to a point by 2032 where Bitcoin has at least the potential to be an integral part of our everyday lives. Totally. I mean, the vibe coding stuff helps Bitcoin too, right? Like the fact that people can use AI in order to enhance what they were able to build before AI is amazing. And And certainly Bitcoin will benefit from that. Not necessarily vibe coding, but I just use Bitcoin to pay for coffee at a coffee shop

near to my house, thanks to Square. Like literally yesterday I did that. You know, that's Aaron in 2023 or 2022, like hearing that I would have been like, oh my God, we're finally here. Wow, that's crazy. I just went to this coffee shop and was able to use my Phoenix lightning wallet to pay for my coffee. Like that's, that's a huge thing, right?

But we are, as you said, we're kind of like distracted by the market and and following the price action. And so, yeah, I think we have to figure out what the real focus is here. What would you like to see on the Bitcoin side after we get through this chaotic period of the summer and. Move in the next year and. you know i think that as i said i i kind of get uh like a close window to the technical side of things um through casey and the fact that i was like you know in ordinal's world and all of that and i do think that the critiques of bitcoin core that are coming from the bit one tenors are like not entirely unfounded right like i'm not like on core's side or anyone's side i kind of

think everyone has valid arguments and there's certainly issues i think one of the main issues that bitcoin will have moving forward is um the tyranny of structurelessness that's like a famous like feminist anarchist uh article or essay written i think in like the 90s or something or maybe it was the 70s um but it's basically talking about how anarchist movements suffer from not having uh like figured out hierarchical structures or leaders you know it's like if you're all just like yeah you know like i'll come in and i'll do this part like i'll do the tarot readings on the commune okay i'll do the astrology readings it's like okay well who builds the roads right like i think that bitcoin is suffering a little bit from the fact that uh you know when you have

this voluntary participation decentralized development structure it makes it very hard to make difficult but necessary changes um so you know if you look at like the history of soft forks every soft fork has happened in a different way from the soft fork before it like we have no formula for changing bitcoin we have no protocol for how to do hard things and so you know if anything i i'm actually very um encouraged in a way to see the forks coming out because i do think that we have to try. We have to try to change Bitcoin. We have to try to see what would it look like to, you know, have miners signal that they want this change added or, you know, get different parts of the network activated in order to do something like a soft fork or a hard fork or

whatever might be needed. That said, of course, like Bitcoin benefits from the fact that it's hard to change and that it's conservative. So there's a push pull there. But I think we've really leaned into ossification over the last couple of years. When I first got into Bitcoin, I think like, I guess this was probably like 22 is when I started actually making friends in Bitcoin and like talking to people. Um, like I remember them saying like, we're going to have Opsy TV by the end of the year. Like, no, no way we won't, you know, it's totally going to happen. And we're here in 2026 and it's like, that's, you know, it's not happened and it's not close

to happening in my opinion. So I do think that the, the struggles and the strife that are happening in the development side, hopefully will help us figure out what actually needs to happen. And we'll figure out a formula for how we how we govern something that doesn't have this sort of formal governance structure. Like this is something that's very, very hard to do and is kind of being done for the first time ever at this scale. You know, if you think about how big of an asset Bitcoin is, like there's really no other structure that's that valuable and that important that has this kind of like, I don't know, just like contribute to the GitHub, man, like whatever. um so that's not to say that i i i don't hope that like an institution comes in and says okay here's how we're going to run bitcoin core or whatever right like i don't want to have

a fork that goes off into like one guy maintaining the code or whatever but we do have to figure these things out so that's that's really what i'd like to see throughout the rest of 2026 is like let these forks happen see what happens on the other side of them and then maybe that can be like the purge that we need in order to like move forward more positively because there has to be something that gives on both sides i think um yeah so that's that's from my vantage point that's what i see i think we're very aligned there i've been consistent with this too like i can see both sides of the argument um don't think bit 110 is the solution also not happy with how core has been maintained yep and there's something that's gotta be figured out on the back us radical centrists

in bitcoin but unless you choose a side i mean i think uh i'm uh probably more sympathetic to the core side but i do not agree with everything they did yeah i we're probably very similar if i had to guess like it's yeah it's it's it's both all right i want to end it on something because and give back to astrology right you're talking about energies relative energies between these planets in the alignment like what what gives it's almost like you're anthropomorphizing the planet so like what gives them individual energy and um what is happening when they're interacting with each other yeah so um you know as i said right in the beginning like astrology is this thousands of years old study of the motion of planetary objects and then trying to find

relationships so it started by just being like okay how well how are these things moving like why why does this very bright star sometimes move forward and then it moves back and now it's behind the sun like even just figuring that out was was like a non-trivial part of this of just like figuring out the cycles themselves so that's one aspect and then with that they kind of were like oh my god it's it's pretty crazy when you get two of those right next to each other right like that just makes sense that you would you would think that's like an auspicious moment i mean imagine seeing a solar eclipse like in ancient times like the sun is all of a sudden blotted out for two minutes and then everything's back to normal like there's there's a very long history of

simply observing just not not ascribing uh energies or meanings but just saying wow like this is kind of crazy stuff that's happening in the skies in the heavens you know like so that i think starts to create the more religious narrative of it is like maybe this is connected to a higher power to gods maybe they are gods maybe they are angels or they're representing something right this is like pre-christianity islam judaism right there's like proto-religions um so you start to kind of see like just the basic association of eclipses are the first thing that come out in astrology is you know you have a an eclipse and an emperor dies or an emperor is stated, but then it's a terrible rule. Like it's a bad emperor, right? Like there's, there's that's

ancient Babylonian astrology. That's sort of like the first astrology that you start to see is the relationship between eclipses, which are these crazy, you know, if you actually saw them in ancient times would be like a striking, shocking event. Um, being able to track eclipses and then trying to find relationships between eclipses and what was happening primarily for Kings and leaders, uh, that like first, you know, that's the first recorded astrology we have that still ties in today. Trump was born on an eclipse. Netanyahu was born on an eclipse. And the recently deceased Ayatollah was also born on an eclipse. So like three major world leaders in huge conflict with each other, all eclipse babies. So this was like what the Babylonians

talked about. Like this is predating anything having to do with the astrological signs or the planets or anything like that. That was like a very basic astrological principle that still plays out today then you know you basically have thousands of years of people doing this work to try to tie together okay what happens when this star or you know we know it as a planet now is right next to the sun or is right next to this other star like can we start to suss out relationships and so astrology basically is the formation of thousands of years of observations of cycles and coming up with archetypes and universal energies that emerge from observing those cycles. Carl Jung referred to astrology as being all ancient knowledge of

human archetypes and psychology that like, this was basically our attempt to understand what consciousness is, what sort of energies play out on an individual level as well as a societal level and to be able to track those. So, you know, there's no Bible of astrology because there's no prophet of astrology. There's no like one person who said like, this is what astrology is. It's really just the formation of many, many different astrologers throughout thousands of years that are like building on each other's knowledge. And that's actually what's so cool about being an astrologer now is that the outer planets Uranus, Neptune and Pluto were only discovered in the last like one to 200 years. So I consider myself to be like an outer planet astrologer living in the

golden age of outer planet astrology, like the types of inferences and connections that we make now, by the way, this July, 2026 alignment, all the outer planets, like the ancients wouldn't have even seen this. They wouldn't have even known that this was happening. Like, this is something that is like a crazy time to be alive and practicing astrology looking at, right? Like there's no one throughout human history that saw this and knew what it was. We can only look back by, you know, tracking planetary motions and saying, okay, this happened in 4,300 BC. So what happened in 4300 BC. You know, this is, this is all the work of astrologers in modern times. I, you know, if people are interested in this topic, I make videos, I have a podcast, like I

put out astrology content, but SJ Anderson and Dan Waits are two really, really great technological outer planet astrologers who talk about Bitcoin quite a bit. And they both post on YouTube like once a week. So I'd highly recommend looking into their work if you're like interested in these kind of topics because they've done great work but you know these are two people that i consider to be like on the level of great ancient astrologers in terms of like the the work that we're all sort of contributing to so um yeah astrology is basically like a huge collective group project that anyone who gets hyper fixated on it gets to work on is there the potential for some sort of like quantum effect via the observation of all this like you can maybe

maybe you can push it a certain way or another just by having the knowledge that it's happening and observing and then manifesting i definitely wonder this i mean um you know in in terms of like as i said also in the beginning like i have really interrogated my belief in astrology it's not like i learned astrology and was like yep this must be real i was like this can't be real there's no way it doesn't make sense like and you know it's not the gravity of the planets there's no scientific explanation for astrology. Um, I think that like the conclusion I've come to for myself is I believe it's real for reasons that are sort of external to my own perception, but I'm also okay with it being real in the sense that if you believe something is real and you

organize your life around it, reality reflects you back to yourself. You know, like I do think that there's some aspect of, um, you know, this, this also plays out with religion. Like if you look at like the best athletes in the world like olympic athletes or nba players or nfl players a lot of them are really really into god like they really believe that there's a higher power that they're channeling and like i don't think that that's a coincidence i think that when you believe in something it becomes your reality and so if you believe in something that's very strong or ideally like positive for your life your life will reflect that back to you and for me astrology has been unbelievably positive and has made me a much smarter person and it's

helped me understand the world around me as well as other people so like if that's all it is is it's just you know my reality is shaping around the fact that i care about these things or observe them it's worked pretty well for the last eight years um but you know i think the ancients were on to something i think there's something there too i did too ancient aliens is like a show i fall asleep to like three times i mean we could do a whole episode on that kind of stuff well that's what you you marked 6 000 years ago and in my head i i pin put a pin in it was like well you get into like randall carlson graham oh i mean uh younger dryas impact right 12 000 years ago so that was the age of leo so leo is across from aquarius so we're doing also this weird inversion

of atlantis i talk about atlantis a lot like in my own content but like i think that we're reliving the atlantis narrative and like the fall of atlantis potentially and it's like a question of whether we're going to be like atlantis which was this like technologically advanced society that fell due to its own hubris that's the plato um you know myth of atlantis basically says that that hubris was the fall of atlantis look at a city like san francisco and the ai tech bros like you can see a lot of similarities where we have all the tools to create a utopia and yet we seem incapable for some reason or we're not able to like step into technology in a way that benefits humanity and not just like siphons value for our own personal gain so that's why you know maybe

there's a dark horse in the sea i raised with mid journey i'm sure you saw what they released yesterday i did i did that's great i mean like i didn't know they were doing anything beyond image generation like that's nuts right they've never raised outside capital and they people don't know what they're doing and then they come out and they're like oh we have this incredible uh image uh we call it screening technology what's the word i'm looking for scanning technology that i could compete with mris and it's relatively cheap and will hopefully save lives i was i was very optimistic today yeah after that launch it's like not um dystopian um we're gonna take your jobs it's like oh here's a product that um that

we built using revenue from our image generator to make humanity uh better off yeah it's good to see those every once in a while yeah you have to have like from the darkness emerges light you know it's like the tech the major tech companies becoming more dystopic makes the alternatives much more appealing and so it allows for the little guys to actually win or to get some version of market share when you might have thought as you said like majority would have just been totally out of the race at this point so yeah i'm optimistic i i you know i think that what's coming astrologically will be very difficult for a lot of people change is hard um and certainly we've been living through a lot of change i think a lot of people are ready for change to slow down

unfortunately i don't think that's what's happening um so you know just figure out what your piece of that looks like and also stay grounded to physical reality you are a human being you know you you're you're an ensouled uh you know entity that maybe exists in the ether but here you're you're an ensouled being that is existing in physical space and so logging off going outside going camping for the weekend and not having your you know having your phone on airplane mode or going somewhere where there's no service uh all these things i think are a big part of not going completely insane which also is another thing that kind of takes you out of the the running for whatever utopia we may or may not be headed towards so um touch grass as they say

and just like try to try to stay sane and grounded and you know things like family and loved ones and the natural world like that's part of what the human experience is and i don't i don't want to lose that like that's my version of like you know when we look at something like transhumanism emerging like i still want to have my family and my relationship to nature and i want to own my property and maintain my land and all those kind of things like that's my version so i think figuring out what aspects of being human are important to you and making sure that you're cultivating that even as technology grows and information becomes so enticing to just stay in your mind and constantly be on the internet and looking at things like try to also live an embodied

human experience because you need to have both couldn't have said it better myself aaron this was as good if not better than I was expecting and hopefully not the last time we do this good I'm glad to hear it uh I wasn't sure I was like am I rambling way too much at Marty like is Marty just like what the hell did I do having this girl on here no that is uh I I've I've been told I know when to shut up and just let the guests do the talking people came here to listen to you not listen to me so this is there was no rambling and I I learned a ton and uh yeah I think i think i mean you can just feel it like i was saying earlier like it feels like we're crescendoing to some some event soon and it'll be interesting to observe if something happens

between july 15th and july 25th and then another event happens a month later during the eclipses or shortly thereafter yeah we can check in you know in the fall when everything's slowed down and we're like oh where are the exciting events we can check in and review and then actually it's it's always good to do year ahead. So like looking ahead at 2027, like we can, we can check back in and figure out where we landed based on my predictions for 2026 and then like where things are headed. Well, let's plan on doing that this fall then. Cool. Yeah. Thanks so much for having me, Marty. This is amazing. It's always good to be able to go on a podcast and like, you know, just do my deranged, uh, ideas and not have someone like, look at me like you say that

because you're also deranged that's true it's not deranged to me yeah yeah kindred spirit kindred spirit all right uh we're gonna sign off here but uh hold up because i need to give you some dates to check for me peace and love freaks okay thank you for listening to this episode of tftc if you've made it this far i imagine you got some value out of the episode if so please share it far and wide with your friends and family we're looking to get the word out there also wherever you're listening whether that's youtube apple spotify make sure you like and subscribe to the show and if you can leave a rating on the podcasting platforms that goes a long way last but not least if you want to get these episodes a day early and ad free make sure you

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