TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #781: The Truth About Fauci with Jessica Rose

Starting point is 00:00:00 You've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free. When you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven. I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Jessica Rose, welcome back to the show.

Starting point is 00:00:39 Hello, Marty. I'm so sorry I was late. It was for good artistic inspiration. I'm not one to get perturbed when somebody gets lost in their creative craft. I think it's a lost art or dying art that needs to be nurtured. So I'm more than happy to sit here and wait on my back porch for 30 minutes. Awesome. And for those who don't know, I, uh, I, I do write music and I got a melody in my head on a walk and it was so I had to lay it down.

Starting point is 00:01:13 So I started like doing that as soon as I got back and it's turning into a track and I'm really starting to like it. And I got, I just get lost. I, I don't like nothing exists. Um, so yeah, i looked up at my clock and it was like a half hour into our interview time so thank you for being uh forgiving for the artist well it's a it's uh it's easier too because it provides a good segue into what we're going to discuss which is proximal that's why i think it came out because i need the i need the the the levity the the you know the musicality and the the creative side instead of this probing personal emails thing.

Starting point is 00:02:01 As you can see, I've been busy. Well, you worked two great poems into the piece. You started with one. So we're going to talk about Proximal Origin, the paper that locked in the narrative to usher in the plandemic. A lot of this information in the analysis that you did is coming from Senator Johnson and Senator Paul's paul's um i guess grilling of anthony fauci wasn't really a grilling since he pled the fifth but

Starting point is 00:02:31 i think this is really important i think our conversations over the last two years on this topic in many different facets of the topic of covet 19 the the vaccines the response the reaction to everything has been seeded in we're looking for accountability and it looks like we may be on the path towards that but i think the hearings happen there's a ton of clips but we need to keep beating the drum and like i said you provide a good segue because i really like this poem i have a vested interest in finding what sars where sars was made and by whom it was first arrayed not for the geopolitics game nor to expose the cover-up shame but i fight for those who cannot stand the injured the dead across the land the persecuted the innocent hands uh

Starting point is 00:03:15 this is what it's all for accountability for these people and i think what senators johnson and paul brought to the the hearings in terms of evidence you you sifted through that and really highlighted the contradictions and the overt criminality and uh back backdoor dealing and um really the crafting of the narrative particularly around the topic of how um SARS COVID or COVID-19 I'll just was was created was it in the lab was it at at this uh wet market and it's pretty clear that they were really trying to force the narrative that it was the wet market yeah it's just amazing it's a bottomless pit like um i think jeffrey tucker and i are tied like there's probably a million other people too but like i speak to jeffrey the most um i might be going in and out

Starting point is 00:04:14 of connections, so forgive me for that. What I was saying was, it's a bottomless pit. I mean, these email releases are thousands of pages long. The one that Jeffrey Tucker and I have been combing over was like 1,300 pages, but there's another one I found in my research. It could have been this Proximal Origins one or my more recent one about Robert Gallo, which we should talk about which has um 3 200 pages of emails and these are like there is some repetition and overlap but these are new emails and they it's like you can't go through it page by page you you just can't we're not computers so i've come up with methodologies like my my shtick is like uh bringing to light what they were saying the truth about what they were saying with the mrn

Starting point is 00:05:11 shots you know so i will use the keyword mrna or moderna or harms or adverse events or something like that and i'll i'll pick you know or i'll sift through it in that way which has been very fruitful i mean i can't believe what i've found um it's it's nothing new to me per se because i've been digging through this for so many years but i was saying to jeffrey yesterday when we did our interview um it's still jarring to see it written down in in march 2020 as the the inner thoughts of the person who who maybe he didn't cause all of it but he was the face of all of it and he accepted that role and he you know he reveled in being that person the science and um yeah and now now he he just you know closes the zipper and won't even answer the question what color is the

Starting point is 00:06:20 carpet i mean come on dude like if you're the science you can ask you can answer a basic question for us can't you um so yeah i i'm not sure i'm not sure what's going to happen nobody is i mean he was found to be in contempt of congress uh that's that's a positive note but what's going to happen next i mean i think that's going to depend on what we find in these phone calls because if we for example see the continuation of the phone call between him and francis collins uh and i don't know somebody else some some person who works at moderna you know saying things about the fact that the the lipid nanoparticles are too toxic to put into human beings you know what i mean like that that's gonna be because that's going to be admission

Starting point is 00:07:16 and then in my opinion we can prove intent to harm right that's the problem like we yeah To date, we don't really have the ability to prove intent, because it's really hard to do that, because you can't really know what somebody's thinking. But if they said it in a phone call, yeah. Yeah, it's there. And that pertains to the vaccine stuff. I think for this, the proximal origin paper, I think the backstory of how this came to be is pretty important because, I mean, you lay it out in the article. There was some backroom dealing. Bill Gates was involved, wrote a memo. The the I guess the process of starting the creation or the publication of the paper and the peer review process was something like 45 days, which is completely anomalous for for peer reviewed studies historically. and i think it'd be important for the audience to really understand what was happening behind the scenes between early february and um late april 2020 when all this was happening who was

Starting point is 00:08:24 involved and what were they conspiring uh in the background so i mean we can only hypothesize again because we don't really know what people are thinking even if they say things in emails but there was a crew of guys who are the authors of the Proximal Origins paper, and this paper basically just negates any idea that goes against the idea that this was of natural origin, which completely abdicates, or what's that word that when you can't be found guilty, abdicates and i don't i don't remember the one yeah so it means that they didn't make it they needed this paper to be published in the way that it was published even though in the slack messages that were released christian anderson is very clear in conversations he had with his

Starting point is 00:09:28 fellow co-authors that um they were worried about the fear and cleavage site for example They were concerned that this was a definitive sign that this might have been engineered. Christian is also noted to have said that he didn't want the paper to be published when it was published. He said it wasn't ready and they went ahead and did it anyway. And by they, I mean the people who interjected and made this all happen on the infamous February 1st phone call, which involved Tony Fauci, Ralph Baric, Francis Collins, and a whole lot of other people with a lot of money, a lot of power, and a lot of influence. And Gates was involved as well. So I think that they needed this to, they needed to completely abolish the idea in the mind of the

Starting point is 00:10:26 public that there was a possibility even a remote possibility that this was engineered somehow or that it was a lab leak you know because um first of all because of the chaos second of all because just imagine that playing out if people had known that this SARS-CoV-2 chimeric virus which was made in a lab um if that was if the spike protein of that virus was the coating material that they used for the injections for the mrna lmp so-called vaccines do you think anybody would have gone near it with a 10-foot pole like this is my thinking behind why it was so important for them besides the panic this this is the reason why they had to completely abolish any notion of engineering because they themselves you know came out and said yes we're going to use

Starting point is 00:11:31 the spike protein with a double protein proline mutation and there's pre-fusion contact or confirmation um from the wuhan strain that's why i called it the original wuhan chicken recipe no one would have gone for it even if they did call it a vaccine so um yeah exactly there there's a memo in uh in this uh string of emails this this is actually the ones about gates and his role and in uh april 22nd these are all dated it's just just lovely um he writes a multi-page memo to Fauci, outlining what he thinks should be done in terms of pandemic responses. And of course, he's infamously said that he thinks there are too many people in the world. And here he says the goal is to vaccinate the entire world. And we all remember that he said

Starting point is 00:12:32 every single person, no matter what age or health status or where they live, they have to get injected with this crap um there there was a plan in place and it involved all of these people um yeah i know i know that ran paul i'm sorry i fat fingered the sharing of of this email oh no worries uh i there's no doubt that a lot of people are saying oh i mean our lag is is kicking in now but i said i wanted to bring it up because i think it's After reading your article and obviously covering this for the last many years, I think it's obvious that the importance of pushing the proximal origin paper on the public was to justify the vaccines. And I think this email from April of 2020 is a smoking gun leaning in that direction. Absolutely.

Starting point is 00:13:36 And if you haven't seen yet, Marty, there's a screenshot that I've made go viral that I found where one of the people, forgive me, I can't remember the name because there's too many, is quoted in one of her emails to others in the context of the, I think it was the phase two trials, maybe it was the phase three of the Moderna, that Fauci had his foot on her neck. Or she's quoted to have said that, in his words, you know, I hope you feel like my foot is on your neck. Get this done. Like it was threatening what he said, quite threatening, physically threatening. So it wasn't just about like, we care so much about the public and we need to get this vaccine because SARS is so dangerous. No, there was more than that going on here. nobody yeah there it is i hope you feel like my foot is on your neck right now to get this done in the context of pushing the moderna probably you know through clinical trial testing you know remember remember how fast they got this done remember how safe and effective it was come on now this was this was about money it was about pipelines already being active um this was about like eventually when they were pushing all this booster crap this was about them making too so much product and it's sitting on pallets and they need to get rid of it they wanted to make more

Starting point is 00:15:08 money ultimately i think the whole thing happened was to usher in the age of gene therapy because just now i think it was august 5th the fda approved uh uh what is it called and some one of these dumb names they come up with vaccines for vaccines like flu the mom along i wrote a sub stack about it today just let me check the name uh m fluzy ziva i got it right here yeah so yeah they they they proved that today and uh if you guys don't know i mean it's right there in the safety data and the document that I shared in my substack, more people died on the mRNA-1010, which is the flu, whatever the hell it's called, than in what they call a comparator group. Now, notice that they don't say in the placebo group, because there was no placebo group.

Starting point is 00:16:17 the comparator group had a different flu vaccine. So if you compare the two, still more people died in the context of the mRNA product. But I made a little chart, you might want to put this up, Marty, from my sub stack, where I hypothesized that if there had been a saline placebo used, we would assume that that wouldn't cause any severe or serious adverse events and it wouldn't cause any deaths because it's saline and therefore not only does it show this is how it should be done this is how a vaccine trial should be done it shows 30 times higher uh chance of dying uh if you take either flu product it's crazy it's crazy and and they they pulled the data and they sugarcoat it and and they say yeah yeah it's fine for old people

Starting point is 00:17:16 we're gonna put this in old people it's crazy it's it's like it's so not safe we're not talking about like myocarditis here we're talking about dying like it's it's wild i'm i'm i'm in shock it's it is it is completely insane i think this ties back to the proximal origin i mean your piece on the proximal origin paper i mean if you read through it and just watching the hearings and reading through some of the other emails that have been disclosed from from this process there's a degree of sociopathy with the people involved in this that i think really needs to be understood at a deep level because you can get once you understand it at a deep level you can't take anything they're pushing on you moving forward seriously and i think examples that

Starting point is 00:18:11 highlight this are um falchi's personal journal which was completely insane the way he was talking about this stuff the way he was getting glee in the fact that he was the most popular person in world and he was on all these magazine covers and people were um he was even reveling in in people bashing him and then like the one part of your sub stack on the proximal origin paper that really like connected the dots on the sociopathy behind the scenes leaking into the mainstream was um the CIA officer that came and gave a debrief about potentially being a lab leak and not being from the wet market. And in his personal journal, he was deriding the CIA agent, even though we have evidence that he thought it was at least plausible that it was a lab leak in the beginning.

Starting point is 00:19:10 So he was creating a, he was manifesting a truth in his mind. And even in his personal journal, he was denying that truth, which is insane to me. Yeah, you guys really should read this, this sub stack I wrote too. It's horribly long. I'm sorry about that. But well, it's the same one, actually. We're talking about Ian Lipkin here. He's one of the guys who was on the Proximal Origins paper, and that's an interesting story as well, which gets revealed in these Slack messages, like just because of the fact that the Slack message group did not include Ian Lipkin, but included the other four authors.

Starting point is 00:19:54 So Lipkin wasn't really one of the what I who I call the P.O. boys, the proximal origin boys. He was kind of like on the outskirts. And they even say Christian Anderson says or he asks Eddie Holmes, like in in in colorful language, like who the hell like invited this guy onto the paper? and Eddie Holmes says he invited himself but I didn't you know I didn't object that was his tone and it got me thinking

Starting point is 00:20:32 and jeez I'm so sorry it's been a it feels like a year since I wrote this article even though it was a few days ago but it got me thinking about Ian Lipkin's this is his name right I think so yes uh yeah lipkin i i was saying lipton to myself uh last week so yeah it's lipkin uh i was wondering

Starting point is 00:20:59 what his actual role as a an intel operator was and i can only speculate i don't know but the fact that he's on the paper is weird no one can deny that it's weird like why why was he assigned to be one of the authors, uh, kind of at the objection of the other four. Um, and I wonder if it wasn't to, at one point set the stage for, uh, the possibility of, um, uh, I don't know, maybe throwing shade at the paper, like to cause trouble because I, I really know what the hell the CIA does, but it seems like every time the CIA is involved in something, things get very confused. Like, it seems like their role is to conflate and confuse and cause chaos. And so I don't know. Like I said, I can only speculate as to his role.

Starting point is 00:22:03 Maybe he was benevolent and maybe his job as an operative or as an informant or whatever it was that he whatever role he played was to just bring back information to his people uh about what the the po boys were doing i don't know because he did object the po boys were referring to him he and that but that was a year later right and the po boys were referring to him as the lesion um i'm sure they were referring to him as lesion and i don't know like i say in my article i don't know what started that i don't want to know but yeah they they did describe him as butt lesion um and uh they they didn't seem to like him very much um and uh one of the reasons was because uh Lipkin was uh going against the conclusions

Starting point is 00:23:04 publicly of the of the paper later on like you said and they were all like well what the hell is this guy doing and you know this is a problem for us um um but the thing about it was like you know it wasn't we always have to remember it wasn't just lipkin who who was objecting it was those guys themselves while they were writing this paper like they all when they saw the furin cleavage site when they saw the pangolin thing they all freaked out you can see it in their own words in these slack messages and uh and the public you know there are lots of references to this too the public the grand public was all like you guys are a bunch of liars like obviously you know this this is engineered based on the fingerprints the endonucleases and

Starting point is 00:23:58 and the furin cleavage site and the rarity that you know the or the absurdity of you know these for amino acids being in these, et cetera, et cetera. Like the wool was being like, they tried to pull the wool over the eyes of the public, but it wasn't working. And you really see that in the emails and the Slack messages, like how aware all of these people, all of them were about the pushback from the public.

Starting point is 00:24:29 You also see them using the legacy media as a tool to to push back against the uh the people the public there's even a part where there's they have um they probably spent a lot of money on it it was probably taxpayer money seeking out twitter bots and and people who are saying things online and this was probably what prompted you know people to be removed off of twitter texas lindsey was one of them uh i have a screenshot of that that i don't think i've shared but um yeah people i know like my name's not in there thank goodness but uh they they had uh they had um a lot of operations going on to make sure people shut the hell up about certain subject matters and and this this engineering story is is one of

Starting point is 00:25:28 the ones um that i'm you know razor focused on lasers sorry laser focused on because i i've looked at this upside down and backwards and sideways and i i know this was engineered i mean come on so freaks this rip was brought to you by the motherfucking cash app they're back been using cash app for years makes it easy to buy sell send receive top up to stack bitcoin top of payments to snap Bitcoin, automatically DCA, you can get paid in Bitcoin on Cash App very easily. They've integrated the Lightning Network to make payments extremely fast and cheap. They're the all-encompassing Bitcoin app. I've been using Cash App for almost 10 years now, almost 10 years, the better part of a decade. I've had my weekly DCA on for many years. You

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Starting point is 00:28:24 And then to your point about mainstream media and who knows how much money they spent. And I don't think we have any direct evidence that they pressured the dictionary Webster, Merriam Webster. But I think you open up the piece with the fact that they literally changed the definition of vaccine rather quickly as well to make it so that the word vaccine in January on January 26th, 2021, was redefined as an injection to stimulate an immune response as opposed to providing immunity. So like the Orwellian, the Orwellian nature of the narrative control, I mean, it was spread wide and far mainstream media, the official dictionary that people trust, other researchers and immunologists who are trying to actually find the truth. It was a full on blackout in anybody who was against the narrative. yeah absolutely and uh yeah her name was a li men meng yang sorry if i messed up your name um and she wrote the the yan reports and there are three of them and yeah i write about them here and they really hated them and another guy who published um a paper that they really hated

Starting point is 00:29:44 yeah he's a stanford microbiologist with you know a long career serious guy uh he published a paper called to stop the next pandemic we need to unravel the origins of covet 19 that's a very non-threatening title but they were very threatened by it anyone who even it's so hypocritical too like anybody who even wanted to look at this was like targeted at the same time you can read this in the slack messages christian freaked out when ralph barrack basically called them all idiots in a meeting. I think it was a February 3rd meeting. I could be wrong. Um, when Christian wanted to examine the fear and cleavage site and they, they referred to it like, okay, well, this is Ralph Barrick's baby and he doesn't want anybody else looking at it. And it's like, it's so much to

Starting point is 00:30:38 unpack psychologically. Like, because if you think about it, um, Ralph Barrick might be protective of this for a very very good reason you know what i mean think about preempt think about peter daszak think about their relationship think about the fact that he has the knowledge and expertise to actually build this stupid thing maybe he did maybe he did it at unc chapel hill maybe he did it first maybe he offshored it to china and they reproduced his you know what i mean i'm saying a lot of things here that could probably get me uh removed from the universe but um i'm just speculating because you know this is part of the problem like independent journalists and researchers have to dig through these little cookie crumb you know emails to try and figure out what the

Starting point is 00:31:31 hell happened and it it affected it literally affected every single human being on the planet it's not a small deal if they created a chimeric virus that was able to kill people i mean it's really not a small deal um so yeah there was this conflict between uh they were congenial sorry it was like and then you compound it with the vaccine right like there there is it's very important to understand if this was created in a lab but then if it was created in a lab you know the spike spike protein that you created in the lab is doing all this damage and then you create a vaccine that reintroduces this it's a compounding catastrophe yeah exactly and it like you know one of the first things i did was i aligned the the sequence that was uh divulged online uh from the

Starting point is 00:32:30 wuhan strain with the the alleged sequence that they like we couldn't get our hands on this easily but at some point somebody got somebody sequenced it and they got the moderna and the pfizer sequence and i aligned these two and there are differences like there are proline uh substitutions in the uh gene-based uh coding but these these little regions these uh sequences of amino acids called We just call them peptides that have homology, 100 percent homology with human proteins. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to to look at all the autoimmune reactions going on with people and equate it to that. I mean, and if you if you want to if you want to say I'm full of shit, please, by all means, prove I'm full of shit, you know, and don't use bioinformatics like actually do some lab work. like try and figure out what's behind the autoimmune reactions look at the auto antibodies

Starting point is 00:33:35 that people you know have circulating in their plasma right now um not just that i mean there's i mean i've written about about 20 articles about the different little bits in the spike protein that cause pathology that are immunologically like wrecking balls basically it's not just you know autoimmunity we're talking about like um if you have uh autoantibodies attacking something having to do with immune cell production for example like you're in shit because it's gonna it's gonna wreak havoc on your immune system at the base level i mean there's so many unanswered questions here but there is no doubt that the spike protein is really dangerous in terms of the human physiology and the fact that i was just talking about this

Starting point is 00:34:34 yesterday with jeffrey do you remember at the beginning marty that they were having like some people were raising the the question like why are you using the spike protein like why not use some other part of the virus as the coding material that was that question was on the table and it was a good question and you know there were answers this and that but it was always going to be the spike protein in my opinion and that means that there has to be a reason for that and it's dark but it's like if i just find it impossible to believe that the people who who made these things don't know all of the things that we know about the sequence um about these molecular mimic sites about the super antigen sites about the um even these hiv

Starting point is 00:35:30 inserts i mean i there's they have to know the basic biology they just have to use a simple bioinformatics tool and they can they can find these um these human homologous sites they can find the amyloidogenic sites they can find all of this stuff so you can't convince me that these these super intelligent people who are behind all of this didn't didn't know and if they didn't know then they're still culpable because man you can't inject billions of people with something that's this dangerous and then you know say oh well i didn't know you can't do that um i'm losing my thought because like i was saying yesterday like i'm having to relive all this crap from the past six years through going through all these detailed files and it's i'm just as mad as i ever was that

Starting point is 00:36:23 any of this happened i mean the human race was preyed upon in such a big way yeah and they're and they're continuing it like you like the mrna flu vaccine that they're pushing out there and it's still i mean we discussed this the last time you were on but it was a big a big point of maha joining up with magas that we're going to get this off um the schedule and um it doesn't seem like that's happened i think it's still being recommended for for children and these shots are still out there getting injected into people's arms and that's again i think that the running theme of our conversations over the years has been like we need to hold these people accountable and even though it it does seem

Starting point is 00:37:15 like we're making progress and you have to i guess trust that the process is slow and arduous and it's not going to happen overnight and these hearings are very good to see the fact that we'll get the transcripts of this phone call again we're one foot in front of the other more data is leaking but i mean the inability in the maybe it's not the inability they certainly have the ability to but the um the refusal of the mainstream media to pick up on this and really educate the populace like nobody knows about this unless you're on twitter seeing the the clips of the hearing of Fauci pleading the fifth like he didn't really didn't really become aware of that exactly and and it's like what I haven't seen well maybe there's a couple legacy media outlets like

Starting point is 00:38:07 reporting on all of this like explosive material but like you know that that woman on CNN who interviewed RFK the other day I mean she she she was so defensive of Fauci and what happened and the establishment and her her role as a journalist you know to tell the truth she thinks she's doing that i mean i couldn't i couldn't believe it when i was watching it i'm like you can't you can't be that stupid you can't just deny you know what all of these people are saying you're sitting across from the secretary of hhs he's not full of shit whatsoever he's a very accomplished lawyer he he He has, by my, you know, assessment, he's never made a false statement about vaccines. There aren't any randomized controlled trials.

Starting point is 00:39:13 Like this, this stupid flu vaccine that's coming out is a perfect example of what he was telling her. There's no placebo comparison. They're comparing this stupid new product that's completely experimental with another flu vaccine, which probably comes with a horde of adverse events as well. They don't tell you that. So it's like, you know, beating a dead horse. And the remarkable thing is that they're doing it willingly. Like she was indignant that he would even suggest

Starting point is 00:39:50 that she wasn't telling the truth and doing her job as a journalist. But it's so clear to all of us. I'm like, dude, you're brainwashed. You know, I'm not trying to insult her, but, like, you really sound brainwashed. You can't defend what happened in the last six years. There's been too much damage and loss, and there's been too much lying, and there's been too much censorship. As a journalist, you have to be aware of that. Come on.

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Starting point is 00:43:28 megalomaniac and cares deeply about his self-image and how people perceive him um maybe some sociopathic tendencies there it's like we now have evidence from tony fauci's personal diary that he is a legitimate sociopath who in the midst of the world shutting down and his pandemic pandemic uh blowing through the world like he all he cared about was how people viewed him in the public and he was getting glee in the fact that he was getting so much attention and it's like okay if you're against sociopaths and positions of power this is we have clear examples reading this guy's diary as all this is unraveling it's clearly sociopathic i don't know how you can read any of that to not come to that conclusion so the fact that that information could be laid

Starting point is 00:44:17 bare and you could still try to defend the guys when your whole shtick for the better part of a decade has been we need to get away from this one sociopath is is mind-blowing Absolutely. And there's a photo on X circulating now of Fauci looking very sad. And I'm an empath. I'm a female. It pulled on my heartstrings for a fraction of a second. He's taking out the garbage. He looks very sad. And then it's side by each with him in his car, driving with his wife and his wife is flipping off the media. And somebody said they defended the fact that it's not all on Fauci. And they made this point. It was congenial. And I thought about it and I looked at his face and I felt sad for a moment. And then I'm like, no. I said, there's probably a good reason why that particular photo was posted on X. It's to do exactly what it started to do to me. And I'm like, no, all I have to do is go back and think about what that guy was doing in a two faced way.

Starting point is 00:45:27 One to these people in secret rooms, he was saying one thing. He was saying natural immunity is the best. He was saying masks are bullshit. He was saying the six foot rule was pulled out of somebody's asshole. meanwhile everybody was terrified and and he you know that we were being locked up we were being forced to be injected people were held that i mean oh i can't even think about it and it's he endorsed that shit if he wasn't fully responsible he was completely 100 behind it and he was proud like you said he wore like a badge he then i mean jeffrey made a comment the other day like he did 16 legacy media interviews in one day or some shit and jeffrey tucker made a comment like he does three and he he needs to decompress like it's a lot and i can relate

Starting point is 00:46:23 you know the maximum number of interviews i think i could pull off in a day's three you know like and so no no man like he he was he was really really reveling in all this um and i feel compassion and empathy for most human beings but there has to be like everybody even the softest of us has to realize at one point like no you have to like a good parent you have to punish your kid if they do something bad man because if you don't they're going to just grow up to be an asshole. It's just that simple. If he's not reprimanded, and that's why Rand Paul is, you know, I think going for him specifically, he's going to be one of the first. And I think there's going to be a snowball effect after this if we actually get him held accountable,

Starting point is 00:47:21 despite his pardon. You know, somebody needs to go first in all of this. And again, I know I sound a little like disjointed but like i cannot believe it's been six freaking years and nobody's been held accountable like one guy has been indicted that's it you know they were trafficking shit bio like samples on airplanes and getting the powers that be to make sure that they didn't get their bags checked at the airport from china did you see those disclosures yeah completely insane what what uh for those who haven't seen them what were the particular details of that uh just let me let me go back to my uh uh again forgive me i've written like about 20 uh

Starting point is 00:48:17 um 20 articles in like five days uh let's see if i wrote it down let's just go to this airline um basically it goes back to uh i think absolutely morins was one of the people who was transporting stuff but it also involved I don't want to out speak here or say the wrong thing let's see where did I put that

Starting point is 00:48:54 just let me check I really want to let everybody know like the names of the people who were involved in this No, while you're looking for that, it is I don't want to throw you off your trail, but something we should discuss is how do we get to accountability, particularly for Anthony Fauci

Starting point is 00:49:23 who has the presidential pardon going back to 2014 and obviously he pled the 5th when he didn't need to considering you have that part 111 times yeah yeah accountability man i don't know i don't i don't know if it's ever gonna happen because it just seems like um it's a soap opera it's like theater um i do think that we're making progress i want to stay optimistic with all of this and I realize that it does take a long time because of bureaucracy and anything having to do with the government is like a slow-moving train. But we have a real opportunity to write a better history for ourselves, if you ask me. um and all the people who might be listening to this who are like kind of scared that their names

Starting point is 00:50:23 might show up in certain phone calls or emails like it's not too late for you to come forward and be a good guy either this is another thing i've been saying forever i'm like i know you've been scared i know you probably got threatened and you know they they might have something on you but man you know what what's more important living in truth and having your kids be proud of you or being a coward and dying guilty you know what i mean yeah yeah i know what you mean it's all right i'm almost there yeah i just want to get the names right because uh i don't want to speak out of turn because i know they're listening to me do you know that somebody sent my my uh the sub stack that i think

Starting point is 00:51:15 the one we're talking about where robert gary's name he's one of the people in the po paper they sent it to robert gary they sent my sub stack to robert gary i know i was like what the are you trying to get me killed um let me see do they get a response they're not gonna probably but the point is that he he received it um unless it went to his spam and he just deleted it but um he did receive it my god how much did i post here like a wrecking ball uh yeah that's the yeah good stuff my internet's also slow so it's not loading things quickly

Starting point is 00:52:12 that's all good but the high level explanation is that while all this was going on they were trying to move materials between borders not trying to, they did they successfully did

Starting point is 00:52:28 had yeah yeah they were vials of once i get to this uh this um screenshot i'll be able to tell you um it was i know that it was called biological materials and one of the people who was in charge of uh like i think it was national security was like pushing them i was like listen you know i know this came from on high from the FBI and said, don't check this guy's bag. But yeah, we kind of have to. And then I think that it was just kind of like tumbleweed after that, like it's not clear what happened. So and it's not an isolated event either. So we have to assume that, you know, there was biological material being brought into america from china uh and you know only the people

Starting point is 00:53:29 carrying it knew what it was really i mean it's it's just preposterous and then and then they turn around and they tell us we're freaking crazy for even suggesting that you know they're screwing around with bats in china and then bringing over you know dangerous chimeric viruses that they made for example um yeah it's like you can't have it both ways guys if you're gonna be batshit crazy just be batshit crazy but don't call us crazy when we call you on it okay here it is so um this was released in um the the ran paul releases uh this was when i uh okay It was the final CBP release package, just in case people want to look this up. 20-26-07 final CBP release package.

Starting point is 00:54:32 I think if memory recalls, it was at the end. And it's kind of a, you know, the old computer style font with a lot of redactions. um and the paragraph that i highlighted was we're gonna get kicked off the internet no i shouldn't read this because we will get kicked off the internet it's very touchy but um really i'll read the second one uh it's highlighted something something something classified research projects redaction redaction stated he has never mailed biologicals to China, was notified that he has failed to declare and misrepresented biologicals in his possession twice, concealed his ties with the something that starts with P

Starting point is 00:55:23 with three letters during interview, misrepresented his status, redacted, possessed redact devices with utilizing with another person's login credentials and stated he understood. The box of vials so we know that it was vials was detained on and the whole rest of the paragraph is redacted except for the end which says boarded his flight upon conclusion of inspection so um this one i don't know who the name is because um go ahead he so he also used somebody else's credentials to sign into his system oh yeah yeah it goes deep so this one says the federal officials intercepted undeclared

Starting point is 00:56:13 biological materials tied to u.s china coronavirus research network as early as 2018 so the executive summary which was written on 2018 um vials containing suspected coronavirus were intercepted on an inbound passenger at Detroit Metropolitan Airport port. The vials carried by a third-party individual from a researcher in China were for a recipient, Fang Li, a professor and virology researcher at the University of Minnesota associated with NIH grants. His research fellows and collaborators have connections with the two other letters I don't want to say, cause we're going to get kicked off. Um, and dah, dah, dah, dah. So

Starting point is 00:57:01 yeah, there, there were multiple reports of this. Um, not just this two, 2018 one, this, this, this other one that I referenced is a different one, which came from Fauci's emails. Um, and there was another one, which I could, anyway, you guys get the point. They were, they were trafficking biological materials of unknown designation let's call it and it's conceivable getting back to the po paper that what they were carrying to the u.s was samples of the chimeric virus that they'd successfully made and when was this uh well i mean that could have been the one they were referring to in 2018 some people say that uh you know if this does predate when this so-called outbreak happened

Starting point is 00:57:56 um there's lots of theories i mean i don't know maybe that maybe um if i could find the the latest one in the email i could tell you the date of this more recent interception i'm still looking for it um i was hoping i wrote something a little bit more clear well i think what we're getting to too again don't want to beat the dead horse of accountability but again what's happening behind the scenes with this new mra flu vaccine to get it to market with no placebo testing seems relatively rushed uh looks like it's not even better than the flu vaccines that we're using well it's the same it's the same in terms of killing people that's what their data shows yeah yeah and so how much of this is still happening behind the scenes

Starting point is 00:58:53 and again getting to the the crux of the accountability question what happens to anthony falsey can anything happen to him does this pardon give him true immunity or is there that's i've been trying to find the words to describe my thoughts around this because the presidential pardon is nothing but it's like a social agreement between the government and the governed that you sign this piece of

Starting point is 00:59:21 paper and boom accountability or the person is not culpable for anything they did all of a sudden you're not guilty in the past but I just I don't know exactly you're not guilty yeah and the human I found

Starting point is 00:59:37 it's like well sorry okay now go ahead and we'll finish that all right so this is the one that i was talking about and i can answer your question it was january 11 2021 this was the one i was thinking of so there's um an email in the uh in the fauci releases that is sent from an unknown person at HHS. RE, the subject matter, is Peter Dajak inspection. So this was Peter fucking Dajak. Oops, can I swear? This was Peter Dajak that they were Okay. That they were trying to avoid inspecting. Okay. So it says it might be more beneficial for

Starting point is 01:00:30 an inbound inspection in the event that he is hand carrying biological samples. Below our recommended questions, redacted might have a few additional ones to add as well. And there's this long list of questions that are quite sensible, which probe, you know, what the hell, what are these biological samples? And this was from the agriculture specialist in the Office of Field Operations for the U.S. Customs and Border Protection. But the watch commander, if I'm understanding this properly, this guy got overridden. And all of his sensible questions, I suppose, were just like written off. And I imagine I'm you know, this is this was my impression that Peter Dajak just got off like he didn't get checked at all when when he was coming from China into JFK, I believe it was through Doha. It's crazy. It's absolutely crazy.

Starting point is 01:01:33 like i i i don't even that alone to me is like i just i don't know i can't even i can't even no it's uh it's all insane and getting back to like the human nature like we know that they know that we know that everything they've done is wrong and yet yeah but they they know that we know that you know that they know that we know and like with fauci it's again the human in me is like i don't care about the the president's signature on a line that gives him a pardon like this man needs to be held accountable there's crimes against humanity there's evidence of conspiracy there's evidence of cover-up there's evidence of hubris and it is unconscionable that this man wouldn't be held accountable when you consider the

Starting point is 01:02:37 the cost that it burdened the world with i mean you shut down the global economy you murdered millions of people you destroyed millions of small and medium-sized businesses you ruined the lives of children my son was born in february 2020 he had a speech delay because everybody was wearing masks and he couldn't see their mouths and didn't know how to talk correctly because of this stupid policy that behind the scenes falchi was admitting wasn't doing anything to prevent the spread of the disease that in my opinion based off of all the research i've done over the last six years seems to have been created in a lab by and funded by u.s tax dollars in a certain way the gain of function research like this is a level of criminality and evil that

Starting point is 01:03:35 a presidential pardon should not be able to protect exactly it's exactly what you said man it's a stupid piece of paper like where where's the honor where's the actual national security like vibe because all of this is always under the guise of national security we have to protect everyone it's like this it's such bullshit and everybody this is what if if anybody who has like high ranking position is listening to me ever like i want you to understand i listen to actual people and i know a lot of people and i hear from a lot of people and nobody's buying your bullshit anymore like we know that those things weren't safe and effective we know at least that there's a very good possibility this thing was made in the lab but that there's a massive cover-up

Starting point is 01:04:30 behind all of this that you guys are trying desperately to protect first of all the the the public can handle it unless you know they need to keep protecting it because there's something more insidious coming in the pipeline which i've also thought um maybe they can't tell us the truth about the nature of this chimeric virus because it you know it would explode people's brains i don't know um that in hiv insert thing the question of that has never been answered all we know you know about this paper marty no i don't think so it's called the prodden paper i've written about this endlessly as well it's a paper that went up on a pre-print server ages ago like ages ago i don't quote me on this world but i'm gonna say february 2020 it was early might have been earlier

Starting point is 01:05:27 might have been later anyway went up pretty soon um after the bell started alarming about this SARS-2 thing. And it hypothesized and showed with alignment data that there were these four short sequences that matched the sequences pretty well with, you know, pretty good identity that you can find in HIV. And so that was fine. I'm like, okay, yeah, that could be a fluke. And it's not functional anyway. Then I went on to read what they said. And when the spike protein is translated and, you know, it folds into its confirmation, all of those little bits, those let's just call them HIV inserts, were in places on the outside of the spike protein that would be highly accessible for binding purposes it was it was really really like i i when i finished

Starting point is 01:06:33 reading this pre-print and i was still i was one of the people watching the johns hopkins death count i was i didn't know what to think back then but when i read that freaking pre-print i was i started crying i looked over at my partner and i said they made it and i'm never gonna forget that moment i was i was absolutely certain after what i'd read that they had freaking constructed this and there was something really nasty about it and i might have blown it off i might have just said no just you're being stupid because that's what he said he said you're being paranoid and stupid and um then it got removed from the preprint server a few days later why why why why would you do that why would you hide a paper that was just a you know let's just call it a hypothesis

Starting point is 01:07:21 paper if you want to do that well what was so challenging about it that you had to remove it from the eyes of the public before like you didn't even know about it right now and it's it's a huge big deal in the community of people here you know that i'm in that that kind of have been looking at how this is constructed and why for so many years i mean what the frick are those things doing in there why they look so much like hiv bits why are they on like like in in functionally uh available areas for binding on the spike protein are they functional well how are they functional well how are they tied to the sphere and clean you know what i mean so it's like i don't even know why i brought that up but you know that paper is like my my instinct is telling me that thing's

Starting point is 01:08:11 going to come around like when all of this stuff starts out in the phone calls like something really gross is going to come out that that i i know but i'm still like i said at the beginning i'm going to be like i don't freaking believe it you know what i mean because you don't want to believe some things even if the evidence is in front of you because it's so bad you know what i mean well it's again you said you're an empath it's like how could anybody do this right and because basically what you're saying here is that the the hiv interceptors being where they were in the spike protein making them extra responsive to combining to to other cells in our body like it's a bioweapon um but there's no reason for them to be anywhere near this thing and so the

Starting point is 01:09:12 existence of them at all if this paper proves if this hypothesis proves to be true would beg questions of like why why have this introduced to to this um to this at all like why is this here Well, I wrote a, if people are interested in this, I mean, I wrote a lot of articles on this, but one of them is called phenotypic, sorry, but phenotypic mixing tropism enhancement and recombination implications of a lab engineered virus mixing with the existing coronavirus swarm. I wrote this in 2022. And therein, you'll show me present another preprint, which basically shows that there's a fingerprint within the spike protein that it can't be explained away. Basically bookended around fear and cleavage site are restriction sites. So that's lab engineering thing. And I go on to talk about HIV. I was an HIV researcher. I know a lot about this virus.

Starting point is 01:10:25 And I remember writing this article, and there's even a little picture that I made that compares the HIV GP120, the spike protein of HIV and the spike protein of SARS, and the similarities. And I was kind of struck, I remember, when I wrote this, at the similarities. The function of both of them is the same. That's why they call them the spike, the corona. You know, they form a corona of spikes or, you know, binding with other proteins that are expressed on the surface of cells so that they can gain entry to the cells. So the function is the same, but, you know, they have co-receptor involvement that are slightly different. So anyway, guys, go read that. um and there's another one uh anyway never mind i if you're interested in reading all about all

Starting point is 01:11:23 of this i i've been documenting it for six years and i didn't leave much um so yeah i'm what i want to know is why why because a lot of people think they actually think that gates was serious when He said there's too many people and then he wants to kind of like take care of that. And considering the fact that he's so obsessed with vaccines and considering the fact that there are documentaries that actually show that some of his vaccines are quite detrimental. It's not a leap to consider that he might actually be trying to take people out. um i'm not saying that's what he's doing i'm literally asking why why like why are you guys so freaking obsessed with your with your weird ass vaccines and your gene-based therapies and your is it just about money is it about power someone holding a gun to your head like what

Starting point is 01:12:30 why are you so obsessed i mean once you get that i mean some people say once you get to a certain level of wealth um the money doesn't doesn't do it for you anymore so you have to get pleasure out of exerting power on people which yes i feel like uh people like gates are certainly in that camp and he's exploring many avenues if we're we're asking why we're not saying he's doing it but uh another initiative from bill gates that is a bit questionable why would you do this is blotting out the sun um yeah why would you do that why would you even want to think about doing that like i don't know man um yeah these people are crazy we're forced to uh live in a world with them but you you mentioned this earlier and alluded to it and i don't know if you

Starting point is 01:13:22 have any concrete ideas but why are they so aggressive with this cover-up why are they fighting so hard to make sure that accountability doesn't doesn't make it to um make it to the world and he said that maybe there's something down the pike like what well listen to this on the lookout for yeah you you already know this story from our chat with kevin so like kevin found you know the he was the first one to find dna in the pfizer and the moderna files right This is conclusive. Every single lab that's tested these vials all over the world, every single vial that they've tested has DNA in it. We use different techniques, qPCR, fluorometry, or sequencing. Doesn't matter. From nanopore to qPCR, it's showing the same thing. There's DNA in those vials, and there shouldn't be. High levels.

Starting point is 01:14:20 One of the components of the DNA is this SV40 enhancer promoter. And I haven't dug into this yet, but somebody posted something on X. They went a little deeper into Kevin's original plasmid map. And they were looking at the open reading frames that we still don't know anything about. And he said something, sorry to be cryptic, but I honestly don't know enough about this yet. I haven't looked at it said something about the large t antigen being in there as well so for those of you who don't know i i know very little about this either the the sv40 virus is like notoriously known for being a contaminant it was in the polio vaccine right it was a contaminant um in one of the major vaccine um rollouts in the past and it's it

Starting point is 01:15:23 gives you cancer basically um yeah it was polio virus so um yeah it was i mean enough said right First of all, that proves that it can happen. Second of all, it proves that if you have a certain contaminant like this kind of virus or these components, it can lead to cancer in humans. One of the reasons for that is because the promoter is very strong, and it's a mammalian promoter. That's what Kevin found in the vials. So here's my question. What if the world actually found out? What if the general public actually found out that there was, Kevin would say intentional, that there was introduction of something that is cancer-causing, an oncogenic substance, let's call it, in the vials that was injected into billions of people under mandate?

Starting point is 01:16:28 That would make the world's head explode, I think. and so this is one of the reasons i i believe that this is true but i think this is also why a lot of people haven't run with the dna story there's a lot of people posing as you know the good guys who aren't and vice versa and uh i think i don't know i'm kind of surprised that this hasn't gotten more um consideration thank god for senator johnson he put our paper in the congressional record and we actually have a new one that's coming out uh it just got through um the proofs phase and got the fees paid so we have another paper coming out um well yeah is it a continue continuation of that research or something yes it's so this this group

Starting point is 01:17:19 called ox at all wrote this paper to kind of counteract what we were saying and it was like you know this kaiser center type tone like it's like this is definitive and we've done all these studies and everything they said was stupid and we hold that apart systematically point by point and we're like they're wrong on this they're wrong on this they're wrong on this they're wrong on this and it's a really really really compelling and well-written like counter of their counter so that basically you get back to the original conclusion so it's going to be published in uncle target soon well we'll have to do another another rip there because not to your point like what if people find out yeah this is true and again i mean yeah kevin and i have done episodes

Starting point is 01:18:17 on um i mean just i mean the smoking gun is there too there's smoke who knows if the evidence is definitive yet but i mean the the one pre-print study out of japan that got yanked from the server that was talking about the change in distribution of cancer types um since 2021 and the distribution changed to cancers that emanated in areas where this breaks spike protein from the covid vaccines was um congregating in the body and i think i mean again it goes back to what's so tough about accountability because when you get to this level i mean the web of people and businesses that get pulled into this is so large and so massive and i mean particularly the pharma companies which are um pretty large companies very large companies uh there's stock market um consequences there's

Starting point is 01:19:14 yeah um liability consequences for for businesses that's what i think they're afraid of but again and yeah but it's it's you have to again going back to honor i think that's um the best word um to describe why we need accountability that you brought up on this discussion is like do we have honor anymore as a society like is the stock market and we have morality as well yeah i think like the the notion of right and wrong has somehow been lost in the evil cloud of delusion um you know we're we're just so much better than this you know i i fall asleep almost every night watching the big short i love that movie do you i really do um and the reason i i bring that up is just you know mark baum's speech at

Starting point is 01:20:18 the end where he's just very sad because even though he made a billion bucks off of the tragedy you know the housing market crash even though he knew everything that was going on it was shocked It was just like this, you know, the unfolding of the the horrible stupidness of why it all happened and the hubris and the arrogance and the ignorance of these assholes who just wanted to be rich. And he just says, you know, like. On the subject of fraud, you know, like fraud is everywhere and it never works. And this is the thing. It's like we, we, as the, as a human species could be so enlightened, we could be so much farther along in our journey than, than we are.

Starting point is 01:21:09 And we're, we keep ourselves trapped and low vibrating. And God, like, like he said, like, I thought we were better than this man. Like, I hope we can be in my lifetime. I'm an eternal optimist and I really love human beings. And I really do think we're under attack. i'm not sure by what and i really do mean what um but like yeah i believe in us and i think i think more people need to say that and more people need to believe that like because like a lot seems hopeless you know and even going to a goddamn supermarket these days

Starting point is 01:21:50 makes you feel hopeless because there's like too much stimulation too much choice like nothing is simple anymore and we're simple creatures we're complex but we're simple we we like eating and we like pooping and we like being with people and we like laughing we're pretty basic right um yeah yeah walks on the beach yeah looking at the stars yeah it's uh and again i i'm beating the dead horse and i know people get annoyed because like you're never going to get accountability stop asking but it's like no the eternal optimist to me is like we need to keep beating this drum account accountability needs to there needs to be accountability for for all this and i think persistence um will lead to that eventually

Starting point is 01:22:48 the only difference between success and failure that's my motto i think when it comes to fauci particularly we really need to push the conversation to like hey some signature on a piece of paper from another individual does not exonerate an individual from all the wrong that they've done yeah why don't they just burn it

Starting point is 01:23:18 there is there is right it's you can't let a piece of paper prevent accountability in this case again just thinking of the scale

Starting point is 01:23:34 of the crimes crimes against humanity i feel very very confident and safe saying that um and again that just like the cognitive dissonance and the hypocritical contradictions of um i mean world war ii and hitler gets brought it's like continuously brought up we can never have this again we could never have this again obviously it wasn't in the same form but it was i mean arguably at a scale that's much larger than what happened to world war ii and many wars of humanity's past and just because it wasn't and they wouldn't have to fire as abrasively yeah and that's that's the scary part that's the scarier crime against humanity it's when

Starting point is 01:24:23 they don't have to fire a single gun there's not some visible reaction to the damage being done it happens quietly in the background of families losing loved ones for unexplainable reasons but there's that seed that emanates from from everything that happened with with covid the shutdowns the um the curbing of people getting access to ivermectin hydroxychloroquine eventually the the thrusting of the vaccine and the mandates um it's a bunch of it's a very quiet crime against humanity in many ways if you're not paying attention if you well it was quiet like one of the things i found yesterday was that there there are probably hundreds i only found a dozen or so but there's probably a lot more in the thousands of pages of emails people from all

Starting point is 01:25:16 over the world i mean the guy was bombarded fauci was although he does have probably a team a very large one, bombarded by emails from doctors, from pharmacists, from virologists, from epidemiologists, all suggesting alternative strategies and treatments. And he's on, you know, he's on there writing back like remdesivir sucks. It's dangerous. Hydroxychloroquine is the way to go. Natural immunity is best. This is what he said to a CNN reporter. One of them warned about what's going on in, you know, various and sundry countries around the world on the subject matter of remdesivir being harmful. And I made a big screenshot about this today, like 10 days later, he was touting it. He was saying it was going to be the course of action for COVID. And then there's

Starting point is 01:26:13 there's this meeting with trump in the white house where he's he's all over it he's like yeah remdesivir or blah blah blah the guy was was informed he was informed by a concerned public you can hear the concern in the words of the people who wrote these emails to him like this you know everybody's scared and i just want to help and here's something that i've seen working in my hospital drugs i never even heard of dude deaf ears it's never gonna matter because moderna was being rolled out yeah i don't know man um and this was the guy who was in his scrubs in his kitchen doing videos right i think he was saying pull this up here's an oh yeah this one right yeah i just wanted everybody so this was february 8th 2021 drew was a guy who got the

Starting point is 01:27:10 nobel prize with uh carico i think her name was um and he told uh fauci on this date that the the mrna lnps go to the placenta and fetus and that the uterus and ovaries take up the mrna LNPs and translate the mRNA. Now, for anybody who's been wondering why their wife or their girlfriend or their daughter has had menstrual cycles or maybe had a miscarriage in temporal proximity to getting one of these shots, maybe this might have something to do with it. So, I mean, my point was, I've been looking at this again for years, and I've seen i've seen various reports of all all of all of things related to um female reproductive issues going awry fetal issues like going off the charts like like hypokinesia and stuff that's when the

Starting point is 01:28:09 baby's not moving so much um underweight stillbirths i mean all of this stuff has been happening more since 2021 then you read something like that and then you you you start playing it back in your mind about how they kept going with the freaking EUAs in younger and younger and younger age groups until they had a plan they had to get this on the childhood schedule to avoid liability that was the plan all along they had to keep going lower safety data be damned myocardis and 12 year old boys be damned you know and like you said they're still freaking pushing this crap and children and infants i mean i you know let's be optimistic again though i liked what you were saying i mean i i think accountability is coming even if not by the humans by the hand of god

Starting point is 01:29:13 you know like there is such thing as right and wrong and there is light and there is dark and um everybody freaking knows it whether they know it or not they know it somehow um and some people even believe in karma and karma is going to be a bitch for these people I believe in human guilt. I believe that it's real. I believe that most humans are good and that they have a conscience. I also believe that most of the people who are going to be on the chopping block soon have one of those and that they'll probably fold.

Starting point is 01:29:48 Maybe I shouldn't put it that way, but, you know, it is going to be kind of rolling over on everybody else because, I mean, that's why the pressure is so hot on everybody that's colluded here because if one person rolls they're all screwed right yeah if you're out there you're listening and one of the people who has uh the scrutiny on them right now roll you do what's good save your soul save your soul exactly and it's exactly and it is i'm swear i swear to you it is about saving your soul but from the human point of view from this weird material 3d thing that we're in, you will also be embraced by a very large community of people. You will not be shamed. You'll not be ridiculed. You will be embraced. And I don't care about all the people

Starting point is 01:30:39 who are saying, ah, no, they need to be burned. No, that's not how we behave in a civilized society. If somebody has the balls after everything they've been through to come forward and be truthful in even a single moment then that is their truth and they should be allowed to do so and no reprimand well maybe some reprimand but like we we have to be non-hypocritical about this that's very important and we can't shame the freaking victims i i can't stand that shit either you know what i mean a lot of people are shaming people for you know yeah getting the jab yeah i don't i don't fault anybody i mean you people were literally subjected to the largest psychological operation in human history from all angles exactly yeah biggest psyop in human history it's still to

Starting point is 01:31:36 your point still ongoing and just persistence to slowly but surely convince one individual at a time that they were psyoped and it's okay many people made the mistake you can't fault people for falling prey um to the powers that being there i mean they did a very good job it was a very well orchestrated i mean it was very well orchestrated really everybody in the mainstream any information or most information resources that people had access to were telling them the same thing inciting the fear putting the charts up the johns hopkins numbers up of the deaths that were rolling through. People were earnestly fearful for not only their lives, but the lives of their loved ones. And I think most people were acting from a place of self-preservation

Starting point is 01:32:29 and the preservation of their loved ones. But at some point, you have to recognize the objective reality that the people that were pushing all this are evil, and they did not have the best intentions in mind and now we have definitive proof that they were not being as truthful and forthright with their public posturing and may i suggest that the next time which i think there have been many attempts at next times think ebola you know there have there might be lassa coming um be your own authority for the love of god do not seek one out in a white coat just be your own authority because you are your own authority and if if that's not enough think of it this way what if those people that you're putting all your faith in are wrong

Starting point is 01:33:26 you have to at least consider that possibility they're not god you know fauci might think he's godlike but he's he's very very very far from god um even if he thinks he was doing the right thing that's his life he's not gonna come help you if you get injured you know what i mean like you are the authority over your own life and please be the authority over your kids lives too like imploring the entire world right now um you're the parent you know best um kids are meant to play with other kids and get sick and spread germs and this is how our immune systems get strong this is how we build variability and robustness of responses this is literally how we get stronger um you know it's it's absolutely it's absurd what they're doing to children in this

Starting point is 01:34:26 childhood schedule this vaccination thing it's it's like if an alien came to earth and saw that right now they'd be like what the hell are these people doing to each other you know what i mean like how do you alien maybe we'll have to soon and it's i mean it's a great case study and how all right we'll see we'll see disclosures upon us but it's also a great study and just how quickly these norms can can arise i mean this childhood vaccine schedule is only a generation old and started really in earnest in the 90s and obviously it's picked up since then but it's one generation and that is a blip

Starting point is 01:35:12 on the timeline of human history yeah you get one vaccine on that schedule you make a billion bucks a year so and it's liability free why not yeah

Starting point is 01:35:33 um jessica this is always i don't know fun's the right word to describe it but uh i always enjoy our conversations because um me too again i feel like the persistence is key i feel like a lot of people are dropping the ball in terms of staying on top of this i think it's one of the most important human stories of of my lifetime of our lifetime and um we can't let it just get swept under the rug so i thank you for for doing the work that you're doing with your sub stack and the research that you're doing to to prove that that's something um likely went awry with everything in and around the covid era in the vaccines um and i look forward to reading you and kevin's uh next paper and hopefully recording an episode on it we will and you know at this point i'm just

Starting point is 01:36:30 like i wonder how similar to my the development of the story in my own brain is going to be to the the veritable truth that comes out from these phone calls for example like i wonder how right i've been it's it's it's not that i i i don't doubt that i'm right on the things that i've drawn a conclusion on up to this point because i've just dug too deep and i've read too many papers and i have too many people as alternate sources like i go everywhere for my sources because that's the way that you get to the the best idea of of the truth um i don't know how to put it but anyway yeah it was a pleasure and um it's funny you use the term drop the ball because that's exactly what eddie holmes wrote to christian

Starting point is 01:37:24 anderson in the slack message on the subject matter of the pangolins on that note that wraps it right up in a bow the pangolins that was a funny they literally tried to make us believe the pangolins the reason for all that

Starting point is 01:37:47 but we don't have to go too far into that Jessica thank you for your time and we'll do this again when the paper drops yes we will peace and love freaks okay thank you for listening to this episode of tftc if you've made it this far i imagine you got some value out of the episode if so please share it far and wide with your friends and family we're looking to get the word out there also wherever you're listening whether that's youtube apple spotify make sure you like and subscribe to the

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TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #781: The Truth About Fauci with Jessica Rose

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