TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - #790: MMR Vaccines Are Deadlier Than Measles with Nic Hulscher

Episode Date: September 8, 2026

Nicolas Hulscher returns to unpack Pennsylvania's fabricated measles deaths, a federal RICO lawsuit against the American Academy of Pediatrics, and new CDC WONDER data showing over 150,000 excess canc...er deaths since mRNA vaccine rollout. Hulscher breaks down 35 mechanisms linking mRNA technology to turbo cancer, the decades-long suppression of antiparasitic cancer treatments, and why ivermectin remains safer than Tylenol. The conversation closes on magnesium L-threonate research showing measurable cognitive gains in just six weeks. A hard look at vaccine safety data, medical censorship, and public health accountability. Nic on X: https://x.com/NicHulscher Find the Home Mining Playbook here: https://www.tftc.io/home-mining-energy-playbook STACK SATS hat: https://tftcmerch.io/ Our newsletter: https://www.tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ TFTC Elite (Ad-free & Discord): https://www.tftc.io/#/portal/signup/ Discord: https://discord.gg/yHGkvYxdqT Opportunity Cost Extension: https://www.opportunitycost.app/ Shoutout to our sponsors: Block: Cash App: For a limited time, new customers can get $21 added to their balance. Just use code TFTC10 when you sign up, and send at least $5 to a friend in the first two weeks. Terms apply. Bitcoin services by Block, Inc. See the Bitcoin disclosures at cash.app/legal/podcast. Square: Visit http://square.com/go/tftc for up to $200 off eligible Square hardware. Bitkey: Use code TFTC10 for 10% off the new Bitkey. Aven https://www.aven.com/bitcoin CrowdHealth https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/tftc Simple Mining https://www.simplemining.io/tftc Salt of the Earth: https://drinksote.com/tftc Join the TFTC Movement: Main YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/c/TFTC21/videos Clips YT Channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUQcW3jxfQfEUS8kqR5pJtQ Website https://tftc.io/ Newsletter tftc.io/bitcoin-brief/ Twitter https://twitter.com/tftc21 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/tftc.io/ Nostr https://primal.net/tftc Follow Marty Bent: Twitter https://twitter.com/martybent Nostr https://primal.net/martybent Newsletter https://tftc.io/martys-bent/ Podcast https://www.tftc.io/tag/podcasts/ Disclosure: Bitcoin services are provided by Block, Inc. Bitcoin services are not licensable activity in all U.S. states and territories, and not all services are available in all states. Bitkey is not available in New York. Block, Inc. operates in New York as Block of Delaware and is licensed to engage in virtual currency business activity by the New York State Department of Financial Services. Bitcoin is a non-deposit, non-bank product that is not FDIC insured and involves risk, including monetary loss. For additional information, see the Bitcoin disclosures: https://help.cash.app/btcdisclosures Get up to $200 off Square hardware when you sign up at http://square.com/go/tftc! #squarepartner. Offer expires December 31, 2026 at 11:59 pm PST. Offer for $40 off the cost of one Square Stand, $75 off the cost of one Square Terminal, $100 off the cost of one Square Handheld, or $200 off the cost of one Square Register, excluding applicable taxes. Limited to one discount per product type per seller account. Each code is limited to one redemption per account holder. Valid for new Square customers located in the US only. Offer not valid with guest checkout. Square reserves the right to modify, revoke or cancel the offer at any time. Offer cannot be combined with any other coupon. Void where prohibited, not redeemable for cash, and non-transferable. #squarepartner #blockpartner

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Starting point is 00:00:06 You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free. If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts. So it's all acting like safe haven. I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins. In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor. I mean, that's part of the bold case for Bitcoin. If you're not paying attention, you probably should be. Hey, Colcher.
Starting point is 00:00:37 Welcome back to the show, sir. Thanks for having me. Well, it's crazy times out there. I DM'd you, I think, about a week ago when Governor Shapiro was on his media tour, trying to fearmonger the public in Pennsylvania about two measles deaths in the state as a citizen of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania that frightened me a lot, especially considering the draconian laws they were trying to push through and rules they were trying to push through as a pains to this state or the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania's ability to intrude in schools and houses if they deem somebody not on or they deem that somebody is not caught up in the vaccine schedule.
Starting point is 00:01:22 So I figure we start there. What's going on in Pennsylvania? It looks like Josh Shapira has a meg on his face, but that story has somewhat been brushed under the rug of the 24-hour news cycle, but I don't want to let it go. how did that play out in your mind? What exactly happened? Yeah, so this was an absolute disaster debacle. So basically what occurred was, you know, Pennsylvania announced two measles associated deaths and none of them were appeared to have actually been caused by measles. This whole story appears to have been fabricated. And so the first so-called measles deaths, their death that was confirmed by the coroner, was actually due to a
Starting point is 00:02:09 ruptured spleen, a laceration. The infant unfortunately died of internal bleeding and had nothing to do with measles. Again, confirmed by the county coroner at Lancaster County. The second so-called death, there's been absolutely no case details, no age, no contributing factors, no clinical vignette report. There's been absolutely nothing. And so we can probably assume the second one also was not a measles death if it was not entirely fabricated. So that settles that question. They were seemingly wanting to push measles deaths in an order, in order. to push maximal MMR vaccine uptake because it is rapidly collapsing as people don't trust it anymore.
Starting point is 00:03:04 And what I did two days ago was I looked in the vaccine adverse event reporting system for 26 MMR vaccine deaths. And it's 2026, there's now been zero measles deaths and at least three MMR vaccine-length deaths, including a one-year-old that received MMR and a battery of other vaccines and died a day later of cardiac arrest. Again, in the CDC FDA vaccine adverse event reporting system, the second one was a one-year-old girl. She died of disseminated rebella after the MMR vaccine, because the MMR vaccine contains live attenuated rebella virus. that vaccine rebella unfortunately
Starting point is 00:03:53 infected her vital organs and led to multi-organ failure and then the third death was in a 76-year-old woman to receive the MMR for some reason she was very old. She didn't need an MMR
Starting point is 00:04:10 vaccine but she got it anyways and she died of vaccine measles so literally the live attenuated measles virus spread into her lungs and she died of respiratory failure. They looked in her lungs and they found the vaccine strain of measles. And so basically, the vaccine is deadlier than the disease, basically in every given year.
Starting point is 00:04:37 And lastly, we published a study looking at MMR vaccine deaths and compared it to measles deaths over the past 30 years. And we found there's been 2,600% more MMR vaccine deaths than measles' deaths since the 1980s. Or since the 1990s. So it's absolutely ridiculous. So these MMR shots are causing way more deaths than measles is. And the media never, never blasts out sympathy for any of these MMR vaccine deaths. They just sweep it under the rug while at the same time propagating fabricated measles deaths.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Yeah, it was funny watching the what's the show in the 70s with Marsha. The Brady Bunch. A Brady Bunch. That clip of the Measles episode where they were having a measles party just to get natural immunity from it. It's funny how common it was back then. It was just accepted. They're like, yeah, measles is a virus that exists. You can get it.
Starting point is 00:05:49 And most people just put up with it and actually look forward to natural immunity. And I guess one of the questions I have is how deadly is measles? Yeah. So, yeah, measles is not deadly. It's very mild. It's more mild than the flu as a much lower case fatality rate. And, yeah, children used to have meat. parties because they wanted to get immunity for it and it was a very mild self-limited illness.
Starting point is 00:06:22 And, you know, you see these hospitalization rates that the mass media likes to propagate with measles. Well, those children are hospitalized for measles for containment measures, right? They're told to go into the hospital so they don't spread it, not because they're, you know, sick and dying. And so that falsely inflates that hospitalization rate. and most vast majority of people will get over it just fine. And in fact, infection with natural measles is associated,
Starting point is 00:06:55 and you can't even make this up with reduced cancer risk later in life. It's insane. And bringing it back to Pennsylvania, specifically, one thing that really perturbs me, it makes me angry, is a lot of, I think, somebody grew up in Pennsylvania and understands the politics of the Commonwealth. The Amish are a problem for the people in power because they are this isolated group, a control group, if you will, that have been doing things their own way
Starting point is 00:07:30 for many decades. They're one of the fastest growing populations in the country. And I think the state, particularly the governor's office, views the Amish has a problem because you have an example of a cohort of people who have not engaged in any of the vaccine schedule. And they seem to be thriving. And it goes beyond just the vaccine schedule and gets into clean food, too. There's a farmer, an Amos Miller, excuse me, who's been attacked by the state for years.
Starting point is 00:08:08 I think, thankfully, within the last month, the case against him has been dropped. but they've really been targeting the Amish because it's a narrative violation, I think. Yeah, exactly. They don't want, they want to smear the Amish and avoid studying them because they'll find they're much less sick. They have way less chronic disease and they have way less autism because they don't take large batteries of vaccines. They don't, they're not subjected to 72 doses by age 18 and 32.
Starting point is 00:08:42 doses by age two. And so they're far healthier. And yeah, they don't want people to know that, that a group that's not following public health recommendations is actually faring much better. And a lot of this seems reactionary from Pennsylvania and a number of other states in the Northeast, particularly reactionary to the Department of Health and Human Services, which has relaxed the vaccine schedule this year. I think many people were waiting with bated breath for something to happen around the vaccine schedule with RFK at the helm.
Starting point is 00:09:20 We finally got something that seems like a lot of states are reacting negatively. Another thing that we should bring up with Pennsylvania too being a Philadelphia, a citizen of Philadelphia born and raised on a playground where I spent most of my days, the big pharma city, big pharma state. And that was one of the frustrating things a couple of weeks ago that if you're on the outside looking in, you may not understand that the farm industry is pretty massive in Pennsylvania. Right, right, definitely. Yeah, pharma-captured states, you know, they're going to continue to push fraudulent and dangerous vaccine recommendations, despite what the new HHS guidance. is, and they're going to be following the American Academy of Pediatrics vaccine recommendations, which are extremely dangerous, which includes injecting children with over 72 doses by age 18, none of which were properly tested in a pre-licensing, a placebo-controlled trial,
Starting point is 00:10:28 and none of which were tested in cumulative fashion. So they don't know what happens when you inject that much into a child. And so they're following recommendations of American Academy of Pediatrics, which is being now sued in a federal lawsuit, a federal RICO lawsuit, Racketeer influenced and corrupt Organizations Act lawsuit for a running a vaccine racketeering scheme for the past 30 years. And so this is the situation we're in now. Really? I did not realize this was going on. what is the thesis behind the RICO case? What are they claiming? Yeah, so basically what's occurred or what they're alleging this lawsuit is that basically
Starting point is 00:11:17 the American Academy of Pediatrics receives large sums of money from Merck, other childhood vaccine makers, Pfizer, and Moderna. And in exchange for that money, they push dangerous and fraudulent vaccines. recommendations. And so basically they're pushing untested and dangerous vaccines, including COVID-19 MRI shots on infants in exchange for the industry money. And so this does appear to be a racketeering scheme at the cost of American health and American lives. And it's an organized operation. What's the state of that trial? Is it still in discovery?
Starting point is 00:12:10 Well, that lawsuit was filed a few months ago, and there has not been any updates since. It was filed by Children's Health Defense's legal team. They've been doing incredible, incredible work. And again, going back to the 24-hour news cycle, that's the one thing. That's why I have a lot of people. we've had Jessica Rose on recently who was talking about the fact that Fauci knew
Starting point is 00:12:41 that the COVID-MRNA vaccine was affecting the placentas of women and affecting pregnancies and a lot of people in the comments like why you keep bringing people on to discuss this stuff so we need accountability not only do we need accountability
Starting point is 00:12:58 but it seems like because of the 24-hour news cycle People have short-term amnesia and forget what we just went through with the COVID-MRNA vaccines. And they're pushing new mRNA vaccines. And I know that you've been on top of studies as it pertains to the mRNA vaccines. Yesterday, you tweeted out that a study found that MRI vaccines could induce for accelerate cancer via 35 distinct mechanisms. There is this push for the mRNA flu vaccine right now. And it seems like we're speed running into this MRNA vaccine reality when we don't really have any clarity about whether or not we can have any certainty that these things are safe at all.
Starting point is 00:13:45 Yeah. So they're pushing MRNA now for everything, for flu, for cancer, for COVID, and for RSV, and they're developing it for every other disease you can think of, including asthma. I mean, chronic diseases and other sorts of things. So with the cancer study we just published, it actually is the most comprehensive to date looking at the link between COVID vaccines and cancer. And yeah, we found there's 35 distinct mechanisms that MRNA technology can promote or induce or accelerate cancer. And it spans so many different things.
Starting point is 00:14:24 It spans genomic integration, insertional mutagenet genital. Mence is, transcription errors. So basically the messenger RNA is read incorrectly by your ribosomes and makes monster proteins that contribute to cancer. It screws up what's called the protein to protein interactive network. And so proteins are not communicating. The body's not communicating as it should be. It's causing hyperinflammation, which primes the body for cancerous growth.
Starting point is 00:14:57 It turns off tumor suppressor genes, P53 and BRCA, that the body cannot detect these cancers anymore. And it exhausts the T cells, which are essential for fighting off cancers and tumors. And so you're left defenseless. And that allows all of these mechanisms converge at the exact same time and allow the cancer to just propagate and spread uncontrollably. In many of these cases, there will be, you know, a tumor that is kind of kept in check by the immune system. It wouldn't cause any damage for decades to come.
Starting point is 00:15:37 And then you introduce these multi-concurrent hit cancerous mechanisms with MRNA shots. And the time to clinical cancer compresses from decades to a month. and unfortunately that's what's called a turbo cancer. And so we found that. And then lastly, we looked at the population data, official CDC wonder mortality database data. And we found since 2021, since the MRI shots rolled out, there's been over 150,000 more cancer deaths than normal among Americans. 15,000 excess cancer deaths, right? Since the MRI injections rolled out, the graph keeps going up.
Starting point is 00:16:30 So more and more people are dying from cancer than normal, and it continues to accelerate. And so it's not like it's going down back to normal. It appears these turbo cancers are here to stay. Yeah, it's shocking. And again, going back to what I was saying, the fact that we're speed running into this stuff without having certainty around it.
Starting point is 00:16:52 It seems like we have certainty the other way that this is something that we should probably pause and look into because it's severely hurting people. And I think we mentioned it earlier, but the MRA flu vaccine, again, Jessica Rose came on to discuss the study that was released that showed that it had a higher fatality rate than the normal flu vaccine or higher adverse event rate than the normal flu vaccine or higher adverse event rate than the normal flu vaccine. And then the trials, again, going back to the basics, we discussed this in March when you were first on, like, how do you, how do you run a good trial and have certainty, like what placebos are you using? Are placebos even being used? And that's one thing I worry about because the flu vaccine is one of those that many people in my life have just basically accepted. Oh, fall rolls around. I get a flu vaccine, protect myself. and the marketing around the M RNA flu vaccine is going to be very aggressive and you're going to have people rushing to get this because I think it's better when the data seems to be saying that it's not.
Starting point is 00:18:00 Yeah, it's another disaster. So actually, we published that study, that reanalysis of the clinical trial data for MFluC,iva, the M RNA flu shot by Moderna. and we found. It's very, very concerning because the FDA themselves and Moderna, they should have done this analysis. It's called a risk-benefit analysis. What they did in the FDA briefing document used to approve it was they didn't do any analysis.
Starting point is 00:18:31 They just listed these numbers and giant tables hoping nobody would connect the dots. And so we calculated what was called number needed to harm and numbers needed to vaccinate. and compared what would be needed to prevent certain thing. And so what we found was to prevent one flu hospitalization, according to their own data, 4,000 people have to suffer an adverse event.
Starting point is 00:19:02 300 people have to suffer a disabling grade 3 reaction that prevents daily activity, and two people have to die and explain deaths. So it's a form of human sacrifice to administer M fluceva. And so, and then we found, so unexplained deaths compared to the comparator group. So MRNA versus the traditional flu shock, no placebo group, you're 2.5 times more likely to die when getting the MRNA shot. And that was statistically significantly found. and there was a 75% adverse event rate with the MRNA group, only 40% in the traditional flu shot.
Starting point is 00:19:48 And there was six times more severe grade three reactions in the MRNA group compared to the traditional flu shot. And they approved it anyways. So they approved something that costs double the amount of deaths and thousands of injuries. to prevent one flu hospitalization. They approved that. And that's absolutely madness. So we sent that study directly to Secretary Kennedy, and I can confirm he did receive it,
Starting point is 00:20:20 and he stated they're taking it seriously. So hopefully this disastrous, dangerous decision can be reversed immediately because this is, it's so obvious. I mean, when the FDA's own data shows this stuff, action needs to be taken. It makes you wonder. how can they push it i mean you can see how they can push it through they just sign papers and
Starting point is 00:20:43 push it through but how do these people have consciences is it is it is it all greed is it he um you i mean again i think i said this in march when we first met like it forces you to think conspiratorially are they trying to depopulate part of the population when you consider the data and the data's out there it's it's uh mind-boggling almost like the the country in the world a certain extent, under a spell. And they've conditioned people over time successfully enough to just trust the, the quote-unquote, experts that they're going to provide them with good medicine or good vaccines at the end of the day. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Yeah, there definitely is a real conspiracy going on, at least with the fact that the FDA and regulatory agencies are still captured by the pharmaceutical. industry and they will just rubber stamp anything with MRNA on it. It doesn't matter how many deaths or people you have to sacrifice to do anything. It doesn't matter how much more likely you are to die from it. They will just rubber stamp it anyways. It doesn't matter if it doesn't work. They want to just rush everything in.
Starting point is 00:22:02 They want MRNA for every disease you can take of and they want to inject the entire population with synthetic genetic material. Is there any route you could see where MRNA makes sense, where it can be safe, where it's a good option and actually a technology that could help make people healthier? No, and that's the fatal mistake many people make, including tech, people involved in technology and AI, because the recent push was for MRNA for cancer.
Starting point is 00:22:42 Elon Musk has pushed this. He says it has promised for cancer and many other individuals with no health expertise have stated the same. But a recent development has contradicted that quite significantly, Bioentic just had to terminate their MRI cancer vaccine trial because it killed too many cancer patients. compared to doing absolutely nothing.
Starting point is 00:23:10 They had colon cancer patients, like hundreds of them. The MRNA group got up to 15 MRNA cancer boosters administered through IV, and the other group did nothing. And the group that did nothing died less and spared much better. So now we have one of the first randomized tests of MRNA and cancer, and it was very dangerous and did not work. So, and that's because how it works is the same across all of the diseases. It goes to every single vital organ system in the lipid nanoparticles.
Starting point is 00:23:50 It goes into your brain and into your heart. And for cancer, it instructs them not to make spike protein, but to make mutated tumor proteins called neoantogens. So when you have your brain, your neurons, and your cardiomyocytes in your heart, expressing mutated tumor proteins. tumor proteins, that's going to target them for immune attack and result in brain damage and heart damage. And that's probably why more people died in the MRNA colon cancer vaccine group. So it's the same disastrous situation for all of these diseases. And no, I do not see any circumstance by which this technology is safe for humans. It's already resulted in millions of deaths, hundreds of millions of injuries across the globe and disabilities,
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Starting point is 00:27:13 those to get back to work. Now fast forward to 26, again, with the MRNA flu vaccine being pushed unless Secretary Kennedy steps in and prevents it from hitting the market, it seems like that is going to be marketed very heavily and there will be a material adoption rate of that particular vaccine. And then it just makes you naturally question. Like, how do those two different MRNA vaccines interact with each other? Do we have any data around that? And could it exacerbate things? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:27:43 And that's another thing, this compound MRNA vaccination. They never study the interactions now between all these. So you're right. For the people they're telling to get the MRNA flu shot, they're going to tell them to get the MRNA COVID booster at the same time. And these are what are called high-risk hosts, People who are already exposed to multiple MRNA boosters and then injecting them with a new type of MRI booster.
Starting point is 00:28:12 And two of them at the same time, they don't know how that's going to interact. And some elderly, they'll be told to get the RSV MRNA booster shot, the flu MRNA booster shot, and the COVID-MRNA booster shot at the same time with zero data showing that that's safe. It's going to be very dangerous. But again, it goes back to show they don't care if there's no data for safety on this.
Starting point is 00:28:39 They haven't cared for the past six years. It's a rubber stamping process, and it costs an untold number of lives, and it's destroyed far too many families. It needs to be stopped. It needs to be stopped immediately. Do you have any confidence that it will be stopped? unfortunately I have very low confidence we're trying everything we can to try and stop it you know like we're sending these studies as as quickly as possible we're conducting these studies as quickly as possible and sending it to HHS and FDA and NIH officials but
Starting point is 00:29:21 unfortunately it seems many of them don't care and so while we are trying to help stop it I don't have a high level of confidence that they will. But, you know, sitting back and doing nothing would be even worse. So we're going to continue to try and expose this disaster. And we're not going to stop despite the fact that people are demoralized and they don't want to hear about it anymore. That's irrelevant, right? If we stop and do nothing, then we're for sure screwed.
Starting point is 00:29:54 Right. So we need to do something. and I would put it at, for the MRI flu shot at least, there's probably a less than 5% chance that they withdraw it. But we'll see. That paper we did will be in a peer-reviewed journal very soon, and that will give it more firepower, but we'll have to wait and see. Yeah, again, it's hard to discern whether these pushes are seeped in nefarious.
Starting point is 00:30:26 nefariousness or greed or a combination of two, I would not be shocked if it's a combination of the two, but I think for certain, greed is at the core a lot of what's going on here. There's a lot of money in this stuff.
Starting point is 00:30:39 And I think another thing that you've idled recently is the fact you've done research on alternative cancer treatments and some people are going to be pushed towards MRNA. The big pharma company is going to make a lot of money from that. But in a recent study,
Starting point is 00:30:55 you found that 84% of cancer patients taking ivermectin and Benzol declare complete remission, tumor shrinkage, and halted cancer growth after six months. So this combination of antiparacidic medicines to treat cancer has been taboo. I've heard about this for probably three or four years now, and there'll be plenty of people who hop into the comments. Somebody says, hey, I took ivermectin. and mbendazol and cured my cancer in the sea or quack, you're crazy. Based off of your study, how much confidence do you have that this is a legitimate cancer treatment?
Starting point is 00:31:38 I have a very high level of confidence. And we have to remember the clinical benefit signal of 84% declaring their cancers either regressed, disappeared or stayed the same. that's an extremely large clinical benefit signal that's not seen with chemo and these other drugs, not even close. And so our study was what's called a real world study where it's like people undergoing already. Some of them were doing chemo. Some of them were doing radiation.
Starting point is 00:32:11 Some had surgery. Some were taking other supplements. So it's what you would see in a real world cohort of cancer patients, right? So it's applicable to not just taking Ivermectin, but doing other things as well. And so what our study really shows is at least adding on these antiparacetics to whatever regimen you are on was linked to that major, major benefit. And so what needs to happen is what's called randomized double-blind placebo-controlled trials to isolate the benefit of Ivermectin.
Starting point is 00:32:48 but again that costs tens of millions of dollars and there's nobody funding that. Florida is funding it finally, but we're not going to get results for a couple of years now. And so we have to start making decisions based on these preliminary data that we have now. And it's very, very promising. And chemotherapy is very dangerous. You know, it's the only form of treatment, really, that's administered, and its clinical benefit rate is not 80%. It's down to 20% depending on the cancer, can be of 40% in some cancers, and it destroys the entire body, and your hair falls out, and you feel like you're going to die. And in some circumstances, it accelerates the time to death.
Starting point is 00:33:42 And so we got to get away from this dinosaur medicine, and that does not mean going to messenger RNA. And so that's what they're trying to do. They're trying to say it's an upgrade to go from chemo to MRNA and other patented biologics. And again, most of the time, they're only going to be studying and pouring large sums of money into patentable drugs, right? drugs that can be owned by a company and can be sold for hundreds of thousands of dollars. And so that's why we don't see studies on ivermectin and metazole. But we have another one planned. Instead of 200 cancer patients, we plan to be looking at over a thousand.
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Starting point is 00:36:39 My wife drinks it. I drink it. our boys drinking, stay hydrated. It's a beautiful thing. What is your thesis on how the antiparacetic medicines help with the cancer? What is it that Ivermectin and Benazol are doing? Yeah, so there's actually across hundreds of preclinical studies now, there's over 12 distinct anti-cancer mechanisms across over 12 cancer types.
Starting point is 00:37:07 So in the laboratory, when they expose human cancer cells to ivermectin or Membondazole or Fennbendazole, it kills those cancer cells with 12 mechanisms. The main mechanism is it literally induces apoptosis or programmed cell death, specifically in cancer cells, not healthy cells. It cuts off angiogenesis, which is the blood supply to tumors. so it literally stops that tumor spread by cutting up the blood supply. It inhibits the glycolysis in these tumors, so they cannot take up sugar to help grow anymore. It disrupts microtubules in cancer cells, which is a cell scaffolding essential for cancer cell division.
Starting point is 00:38:00 Mbenazol does that quite potently, and it also targets cancer stem cells, which are the source of a lot of these cancers that literally spawn from these cancer stem cells that chemo doesn't get rid of. Ivermectin targets those quite potently, and it interferes with cancer cells signaling, which is how cancer cells kind of communicate to each other and to themselves to help grow. And so you cut off that communication chain, and the tumors are going to end up shrinking and the cancer cells dying. How long have people been experimenting? with this for cancer treatment?
Starting point is 00:38:39 It's really only started to blow up at least pre-clinically over the past 15, 20 years. Before that, there was only a few little isolated studies here and there. In fact, the CIA had a document in the 1950s. They had a Soviet study that found antiparacetics have anti-tumor activity in the 1950s, But they classified it. They classified it for over 60 years. And that wasn't declassified until 2010. And so that significantly set back this research for over half a century.
Starting point is 00:39:18 So that was very concerning. So now we're picking up the pieces. And we are finding that this is that antiparasitics are very promising, very promising cancer treatment. I mean, again, going back to being forced, be conspired like why classify in information information that would be beneficial for the public to know as it pertains to cancer which especially when you consider how terrible cancer is for individuals and their families going
Starting point is 00:39:53 through it I mean cancer sucks is a meme for a reason it is one of the worst ways to go can be a slow painful and monotonous death can be very quick with turbo cancers but either way it's not to a dignified way to go out. And you would think that if the government had any inkling that there was a way to cure people of their cancer in a better way, in a less harmful way compared to chemotherapy, they would be all over that. Exactly. So the main problem here now is the conventional oncologists, you know, patients will bring up to their conventional oncologists that they want to take ivermectin, and end it on to their treatment they're already doing, not replace it, add it on.
Starting point is 00:40:40 And their oncologists are telling them, no, it's dangerous, it doesn't work. And so that's the main barrier here. And so they're going to be forced to obtain the ivermectin from either India or other sources in the US from a different doctor. So cancer doctors are firing their cancer patients because they want to take a alternative treatment. So that's a major issue that's currently ongoing. And that's why doing the research is so important. We have to start showing these oncologists that hold on, there is some benefit. And unfortunately, many of them don't even read any of the literature because they don't even
Starting point is 00:41:20 understand that there's 12 anti-cancer mechanisms across hundreds of studies. Because they don't bother to look. They just assume, oh, antiparic, that can't possibly be used for cancer. So they're not using critical thinking skills. So, you know, this is, this needs to be navigated. And then also the cancer cartel or the chemo cartel, is heavily attacking this anti-parasitic trend. They send out fact-checking organizations and mainstream news sites that receive money from cancer biologic developers to smear it
Starting point is 00:41:59 and say it's dangerous and doesn't work. So, you know, again, we're up against another large behemoth. It's not just the vaccine cartel. It's the chemo cartel. Well, is there any efficacy to the, it's dangerous? Because from what I understand, diving into ivermectin, specifically, I don't know much about Mbendizal, but you have people taking ivermectin daily as an anti-malaria drug in countries throughout Africa and from what I understand when I was diving deep into it during the
Starting point is 00:42:33 COVID times like it is pretty I want to say benign but it's you're not a high risk if you're taking a low dose of Ivermectin every day and like how could they claim something like that is dangerous it's been described as a miracle drug exactly it's it's safer than Tylenol it's safer than Tylenol it's less toxic to the liver you know then one of the most commonly used a pain killers. And so, you know, it's safer than ibuprofen. You know, it's a very safe compound. No, obviously, you know, you can't take 50 pills. You know, you'll probably die if you overdose on it. You know, it's not inert, but comparatively to every single other drug people take on a daily
Starting point is 00:43:18 basis, it is safer. And so particularly if you have cancer or a severe illness, it's not going to be very risky. It's not. You know, the only time it can be risky is if you have liver failure already and you can't process it. Okay, then, okay, I would understand the concern. But, you know, other than that, very low adverse event profiles. In our study, it was very, there was no major adverse events. The main adverse events, you'll see are gastrointestinal upset, right?
Starting point is 00:43:54 So you can get a stomach ache or nausea if you take too high of a dose. And you can experience some dizziness. That is a side effect. Not severe dizziness, but just a little bit. Again, if you are on a high dose, like four capsules a day. But it's not causing any severe harm in the body. What can people are listening, you agree, maybe not agree, but are listening to this, have listened to the first,
Starting point is 00:44:23 discussion we had earlier this year and have listened to other conversations we've had with doctors who are on the same tip saying hey these things may be dangerous there are safer ways to do this there is a perverse incentive that enters the equation between big pharma governments and stakeholders who have an incentive to push this on the public what does any engaged worried citizen need to be doing as this stuff is getting rolled out and how can we turn the tides? And again, I've had dozens of conversations like this over the last five years, six years now. And it's always, I will always come back to it. How do we hold these people accountable? And what can we do to turn the tide in the other way? Does it need to be a, does there
Starting point is 00:45:14 need to be a mass shift in public perception and narrative around this? And if so, how do we begin to do that? And I think you're on the tip of the spear. really appreciate what you do to get out there and try to educate people getting on big shows much bigger than this one coming on small shows like this and doing it as well but yeah it's something that is still nagging nagging me on almost a daily basis like how can we shift public perception yeah well the the easiest thing people can do studying at home is to just share this information, share these new studies with your friends and family, right? If everybody did that across the United States or across the world, people would simply just refuse these new
Starting point is 00:46:06 MRI shots and, you know, they would be forced to not give them anymore. So that's the easiest thing you can do is just at least warn your close family members, warn your friends, and show them the evidence. The second thing people can do is start your own podcast. Start. Start your own social media accounts and share it online, which will reach a far larger number of people than just your friends and family and just grow that and start sharing that. And so that's the easy. And then you can also contact your local representatives and just tell them your major concerns with what was just approved and provide them this evidence, provide them these studies. And so people sitting at home watching this podcast can make a difference.
Starting point is 00:46:54 It doesn't matter how big the difference is. You can make at least a small difference. And if enough people do that, it will contribute to the overall trajectory of where we're headed. And again, if we just sit back and do nothing and sit back and be demoralized, then we will lose. we will lose if we do that. And so what we're doing as researchers is we're trying to do these studies and get it to key individuals. And that's our attempt at helping to stop this,
Starting point is 00:47:32 as well as, again, spreading this information as far as we can. So there is hope. And I think we can get out of this, but only if people do what they should be doing. and raising the alarm and not sitting back quietly. Yeah. Don't be afraid, share it. Because I think of the elderly in my life.
Starting point is 00:48:01 You were picking up the remote, turning on mainstream media, getting the directions from the newscasters. We're like, oh, they have a new RNA flu vaccine. And that is one thing I'll be doing is saying, hey, if you're going to go get the flu vaccine, I haven't gotten. it since I was in high school. I don't recommend it, but you do, what you do.
Starting point is 00:48:24 At the very least, don't get this new MRNA vaccine. Just go with the old one. That's one thing. But it is, it is, it is crazy the grip that the mainstream media and just a group think around Big Pharma has on some people's minds here. You're quickly cast away as a quack
Starting point is 00:48:44 for even trying to broach the subject in many, many cases. But I've found, personally that don't get too discouraged when you get cast as a quack. There have been some successful conversions through very light touch, nudging people towards the research and the data. Yeah, exactly. You can't be afraid of what other people say about you.
Starting point is 00:49:10 And, you know, that's the main barrier to people speaking out. You know, they don't want to be labeled a conspiracy theorist or, you know, an anti-Valiener. or, you know, whatever. So what do you just have to do, you just have to block that out. You know, it's irrelevant. It doesn't matter because there's actually a larger proportion of people now that will actually not label you those things, and they want to hear this vital information.
Starting point is 00:49:39 And those using derogatory terms like anti-vaxer and conspiracy theorists, you know, they're on the losing end here, right? people don't trust them anymore. So really it's completely irrelevant what they say now. As long as we follow the actual data and we report what the actual data is showing, you just got to tell the truth.
Starting point is 00:50:02 And if you do that, you will be in a much better situation and so will the world. Yeah. Last thing I went on, selfish topic, because I saw this on your feed and was like, oh, this is interesting.
Starting point is 00:50:16 And it's also focusing on positive things, cheap solutions, and it says nothing to do with the flu or cancer, but you had a new study that found that magnesium made participants' brains perform seven and a half years younger in just six weeks. Placebo-controlled trial found two grams of magnesium L-3inate daily produce significant improvements in overall cognition, working memory, reaction time. I don't use magnesium L. 3 in 8, but I do use magnesium L. Arginine every night. And a magnesium for me personally over the last, I think, three years, my wife and I have been religiously rubbing magnesium L. Arginine on the bottom of our feet, and it helps me sleep better. I wake up energized. What is it about magnesium that is producing these positive results and how should we view the different types of magnesium that are out there.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Yeah, magnesium is critical for thousands of cellular and enzymatic processes in the human body, specifically in the brain, right? Your brain needs magnesium. The neurons need magnesium to carry out their functions adequately. And so when you're deficient in magnesium, like most people are now, because foods are void of it now, the soil is void of it, the tap water doesn't have it and the bottled some bottled waters don't have it um you know you're going to be deficient you drink a large amount of coffee you're going to be peeing all that out and um and then
Starting point is 00:51:58 you'll be left with no adequate magnesium stores so what that specific study showed was it was a double blind randomized placebo control trial literally the strongest type of study you could do and they gave Half the participants, magnesium L3N8, which is magnesium bounded to a certain amino acid, and that particular form of magnesium readily passes the blood-brain barrier. So it rapidly increases neuronal magnesium stores. And so reflective of increasing brain magnesium is increased cognitive capacity, reaction time, cognitive processing. And in that they found that that increase in cognitive capabilities from the magnesium L3 and it
Starting point is 00:52:51 is the equivalent to your brain performing seven and a half years younger. Right. So that it's a very potent, it's a very potent neurological compound mineral. And it is required for it. So that's why we see these these major. effect sizes. Now other forms of magnesium are also very helpful, but many of them will serve different purposes. Like say, for example, magnesium citrate. This one's readily absorbed into muscle tissue, but it's not easily absorbed in the brain. Magnesium glycinate. This one is very similar
Starting point is 00:53:33 to magnesium l3inate. It also gets into the neurological system quite well. and helps with sleep. And you mentioned your version. I'm not an expert in the arginine version, but I would suspect those that are bounded to an amino acid like that will be more easily uptaken into the central nervous system and help with those cognitive capabilities. And these are relatively cheap as well.
Starting point is 00:54:03 Yeah, oh, they're very cheap. L3N8's kind of expensive. L3N8 is kind of expensive. In fact, it might be the most. expensive one but glycinate is very cheap and it does very similar things the one that doesn't do much for this is magnesium oxide this one basically that's if you need to you know you need a laxative you'll take large amounts of magnesium oxide it doesn't absorb very well yeah it's uh the l arginine and my wife and i haven't taken again sleep like
Starting point is 00:54:37 a rock I get eight hours of street sleep straight no disturbance feel refreshed when I wake up I definitely I think it helps the brain but none I think it's another topic that sort of attacks is what we were discussing for most of the conversation from the other end which is preventative like make sure your body has enough nutrients make sure you're working out and get to a physical state where you don't have to even think about having to take an MRNA cancer vaccine or cancer treatment or flu vaccine. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:55:17 And notice that you're deficient in a lot of these minerals, magnesium being one of the most important. Yeah, exactly. Just classic lifestyle things are way more effective than taking a gene therapy. And that's, again, what people need to understand. Like just getting sunlight and adequate vitamin D. I mean, just doing that's going to decrease your risk of cancer death, reduce your risk of all-cause death, reduce your risk of diabetes,
Starting point is 00:55:49 reduce your risk of internal cancers, and basically improve your mood at the same time. And so, you know, and improve your immune system and fight off against the very diseases you're taking the MRNA injection score and does it more effectively. So, yeah, just these basic things is really all we need to do. Yeah. Think about it, Nick.
Starting point is 00:56:19 We're headed into Labor Day weekend. I know it's Friday. I hope you enjoy it. Get some rest. I know you've been on the front lines vigorously defending the rights of individuals and trying to get good information out there. actually not trying successfully getting good information out there. And I thank you for joining us to update our audience because I think, again, extremely important. I'm not giving this up.
Starting point is 00:56:42 This will be a beat that I cover until we get accountability and more sensible medical policy in this country. Well, thanks for having me. All right. Peace and love, freaks. Thank you. Thank you for listening to this episode of TFTC. If you've made it this far, I imagine you got some value out of the episode. If so, please. Please share it far and wide with your friends and family. We're looking to get the word out there. Also, wherever you're listening, whether that's YouTube, Apple, Spotify, make sure you like and subscribe to the show.
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