TFTC: A Bitcoin Podcast - Rabbit Hole Recap: Bitcoin Week of 2021.02.08
Episode Date: February 11, 2021This week Marty and Matt discuss: - Coldcard multisig vulnerability https://nunchuk.medium.com/the-missing-multisig-standard-5b4092e3ea92 - Tesla buys $1.5B worth of bitcoin https://www.sec.gov/ix?doc...=/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000156459021004599/tsla-10k_20201231.htm - Bitcoin Hash Rate New ATH - Samourai Wallet v0.99.96c https://docs.samourai.io/en/wallet/releases#v09996c - Nunchuk v0.9.7 https://nunchuk.medium.com/nunchuk-0-9-7-6b74b3848c3d - Joinmarket v0.8.1 https://github.com/joinmarket-org/joinmarket-clientserver/releases/tag/v0.8.1 - Sparrow v1.1.0 https://github.com/sparrowwallet/sparrow/releases/tag/1.1.0 - Twitter CFO says they are considering bitcoin purchase https://twitter.com/SquawkCNBC/status/1359501275650547714 - SEC Commish says they are ready for a bitcoin ETF https://www.coindesk.com/peirce-sec-coindesk-tv - Sending large files with blockstream satellite https://medium.com/blockstream/orbital-data-freighting-with-blockstream-satellite-2b9cde6aa79e - Saylor Academy launches free bitcoin course http://sylr.org/BTC4E - Gladstein + Reason Video https://twitter.com/reason/status/1357756578787708931 - Arthur Hayes Vanity Fair https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2021/02/the-rise-and-fall-of-bitcoin-billionaire-arthur-hayes - Castle Island new $50M bitcoin VC fund https://medium.com/castle-island-ventures/castle-island-ventures-ii-and-the-road-ahead-e1dfffe72d8f Shoutout to this week's sponsors. Cash App. Start #stackingsats today. Use the promo code: "stackingsats" to receive $10 and contribute $10 to OWLS Lacrosse when you download the app. Unchained Capital. Check out their white glove vault concierge service that will take you from zero to secure multisig setup in no time. Use the code TFTC and receive $50 off that package that includes 2 Trezor Model Ts and $1,000 in your vault.
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you've had a dynamic where money's become freer than free
when you talk about a fed just gone nuts all all the central banks going nuts so it's all acting
like safe haven i believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to
devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins.
In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.
I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.
If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
Cord.
Woo, doggy.
Caps Odell.
How you liking this wave ride, baby?
Caps Odell is emerging in an emergent network consensus.
Ooh, baby.
Uncle Marty's drinking this week.
Cheers to new all-time highs.
um technically my prediction was 50k by the end of rhrs ascended freaks okay we've got a few hours
maybe this just ends up us we got bozel mexican sir is that mezcal mezcal i've been on that mezcal
kick you know since i'm since i'm coming back i haven't drank for a few weeks i'm gonna i'm gonna
double fist here i got uh some magners irish cider my favorite cider and then uh some knob
creek single barrel my mother got this for me for christmas interested to see what it's like let me
i'll open it up but yeah what a week a lot to talk about dude it's been absolutely insane right
are we allowed to talk about what you just did or is that on the deal nope nope it's already
teased on twitter so i guess we're allowed to yeah how's our boy the mooch doing dude i just had
the most bullish conversation with anthony scaramucci i didn't think i could be more
bullish leading into it but here i am afterwards extremely bullish he is
he just sounds like he sounds like a proper bitcoiner like i feel like we can just retire
and and we can just we can have him do the shills from now on just let the mooch take over hey you
know what we don't need to do this ever i just got a new desk set up but if the mooch wants to
take over it's been a long long three and a half years so next man up that that podcast comes out
on uh tuesday i did that with bitcoin magazine um i got him on the record to agree that it'll be
over 50k by tuesday i was like i'm not gonna make him make him guess that'll be 2k and i mean it'll
be over 50k in two hours but uh i got him on i got him on the tuesday kick um but yeah so that
was a really fun one but fucking tesla man i don't think i don't think people realized this is why
caps odell went extra hard this fucking week i don't think people are appreciating the gravity
of this situation it's pretty massive like this can turn i like this thing i'm appreciating oh
yeah you you 100 appreciate i mean you you're you're basically all caps but just in spirit i
too many lowercase characters coming from your account over there you know i don't i don't want
to steal your shtick you know it's your shtick did you see the novelty account lowercase mart
lowercase marty has a cuck mentality lowercase marty just isn't trying to step on any toes you
know when i'm done all of bitcoin twitter is going to be talking in caps and then we can consider
going back okay uh we we are going up here matthew i'm looking at my tweet deck right now
bitmex wrecked uh there was just a liquidated short at forty eight thousand four hundred and
two dollars less than sixteen hundred dollars away from fifty thousand dollars so all you freaks out
there pull out your phones and market by bitcoin right now let's see if we can get there the
greatest short squeeze the world has ever seen a sad squeeze baby it's coming how is it being
caps odell now like is it it's a lot of pressure do you like it oh it's invigorating if if you're
not willing to tweet it out in caps then why tweet it at all this is good and you were inspired by
zero hedge so is that like we were talking about a few weeks ago is that is all those stupid ass
squawk services you know they they always they just tweet it out in full caps and like everyone's
it's like oh well this is fact there's no source or whatsoever so i felt like if you don't tweet
it out in caps you have zero conviction you gotta fucking do it oh god all right let's ground
ourselves here no show to produce let's start out with the dashboard then we'll get into the
tesla i got a lot of great thoughts on tesla at least i think they're great thoughts we'll see
what you freaks think uh currently the price of bitcoin is 48 480 dollars according to clark
Moody's Dashboard.
One Cuckbuck's only going to get you
2,063 sats. We're about to go
below 2,000 sats per Cuckbuck.
Number go down.
And we're approaching a trillion dollar market cap
currently sitting at
906 billion.
Excuse me, the price just went up
a little bit.
Attacking gold, coming at you
gold bugs, eating that market.
Dave Collum, if you're listening to this, if you're watching,
please, sir, buy a little
Bitcoin. I worry about you. I love you.
or you can just wait you can buy it 100k you can do that as well um and just still be early
uh one bitcoin is going to get you 26.3 ounces of gold uh and bitcoin is currently climbing up
the gold market cap uh and now represents 7.59 percent of the total gold market cap
uh we're at block height 670 169 uh 88.7 percent of all bitcoin that will ever be mined have been
mine that's 18 million 625 981.48 bitcoin have been distributed to the market some are lost
some are in cold storage for a while and some are still floating out there you better try to get
them while you so soon can still can excuse me uh the mining hash rate's all-time high we pumped
this uh in the sat standard over the weekend but it still continue to go up right now uh the hash
rate is estimated to be over the last 90 days 142.7 exahash but over the last mining difficulty
epoch uh that that that we're in right now uh estimated hash rate is 155.9 exahash per second
that's going up uh there are 1159 blocks between now and the next difficulty retarget which is
currently estimated to be 3.6 percent adjustment upwards blocks are currently coming in at nine
minutes and 39 seconds on average uh faster than the 10 minute block target uh fees gone up average
fees for per reward uh is this is an estimated next block either this is the average is this
yeah it's uh 13.36 percent so that's going up approaching one bitcoin currently at
zero point or excuse me 96 million sats um are the fees uh they're currently 105
439 transactions in clark's mempool um and and whirlpool liquidity has gone down a little bit
in terms of bitcoin but gone up in terms of cuck bucks currently in 1994.9 btc in unspent capacity
and liquidity in world pool that's worth 96.8 million cuck bucks at the current bitcoin valuation
in price um mom stop texting me i have a show going on how's your day did you text you 50k by
end of show should i text her back mom go on youtube i'll talk to you there uh yeah dude big
list this week bullishness man it's like are we living in a simulation almost seems too perfect
what's going on right now like too many dominoes are falling like bny melon coming out this morning
yeah we're gonna get access to bitcoin for our clients let's let's focus on tesla to start but
the bullish news just has been raining down on the markets this week i mean tesla 1.5 billion
uh uh deployed into bitcoin at some point last month we don't i don't think we have an official
numbers uh on how many uh sats they officially acquire but guesstimates are in and the crazy
thing to me so this is where i'll start it out it's like mind-blowing to me is that tesla spent
400 million dollar dollars more than micro strategies and probably if the estimates are
correct got about half as much bitcoin which is insane to think about like the amount of money
coming in and the amount of bitcoin it's able to get is is falling right like so tesla spent 400
million more dollars and potentially got half as much bitcoin as micro strategy whose cost basis
was around 16 000 that's pretty insane to think about especially if you believe the thesis that
tesla getting in is going to to start a domino effect throughout the the corporate world that
that begins, that incites more and more of these companies
dumping large sums of cuck bucks into Bitcoin.
The CEO of Tesla happens to also be the richest man in the world.
Pretty sure he front ran his company.
um i'm pretty sure that
this is going to be the first of many companies to follow um tesla completely caught me off guard
i think we agreed on the pod for a while that that elon was was securing a bag for him to
actually do it through tesla this early in the cycle uh caught me off guard i thought they were
going to be a later company um and now it's on everyone's radar you know um kudos to michael
saylor and micro strategy uh and and then square did their small buy but for a company of of like
tesla of tesla's size in the s&p 500 to come in with a one and a half billion dollar purchase
off the bat is a whole different fucking ball game and and you said earlier like are we in
the simulation i mean if you wanted to fuck with matt odell uh and rug pull me like this would be
the simulation you run because like i'm telling you freaks like none of us are ready like i've
been preparing for years i am not ready so if i'm not ready maybe maybe there's like a dozen people
that are ready but like we are about to get our fucking faces melted off like i don't people
cannot fathom what is about to happen and yet i hear over and over again are we near the top like
are the institutions gonna dump and have weak hands is this gonna happen is that gonna happen
like it is all fucking negligible i said on the pod a couple weeks ago i mentioned how
um last cycle i was shilling uh bitcoin in front of uh a bunch of wealthy investors including
multiple billionaires and i said to them i was like it doesn't matter if you buy it 19k
or 13k or 11k or 6k or 5k it's all negligible in the long run and i walked out of the meeting and
i was like is that true matt like i don't know if that's true it's all negligible now it's all
negligible you think back you're like wow i could have bought a 13 i could have bought a 15 i could
have bought at 18 i could have bought a 22 i could have bought at 7 does it fucking matter
no it doesn't fucking matter it's going to be the same exact fucking thing with 48k
is it though yeah tesla spent 400 million more dollars and got half as much bitcoin like
that psychological aspect of this for anybody who's on the sideline still waiting in the first
mover advantage for these types of players is massive man like if stacking sats is your end
goal go to stacking sats.com freaks i uh i was a sellout i had to sell it to elon he reached out
i couldn't help myself did you redirect it let me check it uh where what are you doing matt
let's see
uh tesla.com hey elon congrats on that url that may actually be more lucrative than
some of your business lines in the future if you're listening to this
uh are you going to be buying a tesla with with your uh with your sats
i it's it's it's it's classic bull market and we talked about this in the past
uh we talked about this the last couple weeks like leading up to this because because this
is our first time having rhr in a bull cycle um people get confused about what's bullish and
what's not uh right now they're freaking out about visa's bullshit announcement and mastercard's
bullshit announcement and bny melon's bullshit announcement and meanwhile they're not freaking
out enough about billionaire fomo and that is the signal the signal is billionaire fomo they're
about we're gonna see foam on a level that no one has ever fucking fathomed before the whole
goddamn world is short bitcoin um and meanwhile you're like oh well oh that's pretty cool that
i can send a bitcoin on the mastercard network custodially you know like no one fucking gives
shit about that that doesn't fucking matter do not give a fuck mastercard bunch of patent trolls
if you freaks don't remember in like 2014 they filed a bunch of patents for for blockchain
technology so i wouldn't yeah i agree with you i want to cheer them on as much or or take that as
as like the big news when you compare it to the billionaire fomo because again the billionaire
fomo when you take into consideration how the price has been moving the last couple months
and then you couple that with the amount of coins
that have been taken off exchange,
which we can see via Glassnode
and other types of data services,
the squeeze that could happen is, again, like you said,
it's unfathomable.
Like, again, even if you have 10 of these types
coming in in that size,
like marty we had a nine thousand dollar candle right we had a nine thousand dollar daily candle
the other day the fucking in march we were we were at four thousand dollars and i was told hyperwave
we're going to 1500 we had a nine thousand dollar candle the other day i woke up nine thousand
dollars bitcoin had gone up what the fuck that that it is for us plebs we have to have more
conviction when we stack. Because Matt putting in $100 isn't going to move the market. But for
these CEOs, not only do they get to front run their own company, but after they front run their
own company, their large ass company announces that they purchased Bitcoin, and then it automatically
pumps the price. So even if they disagree with our long term, you know, value prop of Bitcoin,
on the short term it is the most obvious fucking decision in the world it is it is guaranteed
return yeah it's this feedback loop that we talked about last week when we when we read like when we
talked about why this is designed to pump forever the FOMO is real the incentives are strong and
the 21 supply 21 million supply cap is not moving and more and more people are starting to realize
that like the i wrote about it earlier this week or last week i forget now but this is going to
happen much faster than i think most people think like a lot of people are trying to compare this to
the internet and um like that sort of adoption curve and and the timeline over which the internet
was widely adopted and and um by the masses throughout the world but you have to think like
bitcoin's being built on top of the internet on top of that exponential technology and the means
of communication that we have today compared to when the internet was coming up is significantly
superior and the ability to share information about about this breakthrough technology that
is bitcoin and the revolutionary aspect of it with its scarce its scarcity and its peer-to-peer
distributed nature leads me to believe that it's going to happen a lot faster than most people
think even a lot of people that we respect and know and love in this space like the fomo is real
the only question is like you said like set there is a setup for a big rug pull that's why i wrote
about neil wood finds but it isn't because it's not a simulation marty it isn't a simulation but
if you were going to set up a simulation to rug pull just me and the other big corners this is
how you would do it again yes and i wrote about neil's thread yesterday and you have to assign
a probability to that i think the probability of rug pulls your audio is being a little bit weird
is it are the freaks saying this yeah it's going in and out and i kind of hear it too okay um
marty has a new audio setup going
i just while marty tries to figure this out i just want the freaks to realize like i'm trying
my best to stay humble and i i implore you to do as well but at the same time like i need the
freaks to understand that people don't understand the gravity of this situation well now i have an
echo and and and you guys need to understand it because it's gonna run away from us so fucking
quickly and i mean i'm not going to stop stacking i'm going to stack forever but
you know i wish i stacked more 3 000 i wish i stacked you know more 8 000 i wish i stacked
more 12 000 i wish i stacked more at 16 000 and to you freaks that are thinking about pulling
your foot off the pedal consider not doing that i can't i'm gonna have to how do we even know
speak to me show me bitcoin he can't he can't speak to me i'm gonna keep speaking
um hopefully the freaks i'm the host now i feel like the guy on uh
in the movie um so freaks i mean the real question to me is when we pass 50k
do we do we should we people shouldn't uh get excited about thousand dollar all-time highs
once we pass 50k we should only be celebrating the ten thousand dollar all-time highs like the
on the ten thousands so like we can celebrate a 60 we can celebrate a 70 you can celebrate in
between but it's a bullshit celebration um so i look forward to celebrating at 60k with you all
uh next rhr um i'm just gonna keep making bullish price predictions while marty is
can you hear me is figuring out what's going on yep i can hear you oh uh the freaks are saying
marty maybe your mistake is you didn't press the caps lock key uh have you considered that it could
be it am i coming through like as clear as i was before no but now it's not going back and forth
so now it kind of works but not okay are you sure you're on that mic tap the mic i'm not on this
mic i think i'm speaking you're not on that mic you're not on that mic now speaking through my
mac mini but i am recording locally here so the freaks listening on the podcast app can
can hear clearly god this is the tftc difference freaks you know i'm a new setup on the go it's
the first time doing it live every time i've recorded it over zoom it's worked pretty well
um god this is annoying i'm sorry freaks can you guys hear me on the live stream okay like
the mac mini has a mic it seems like it huh that sounds kind of suspicious
yeah well there's a mic you can't turn off like why does a desktop have a mic
maybe it's not maybe it's my speakers or my my desktop one of the freaks rob hamilton says maybe
you should reach out to your mom for audio help maybe that's why she was texting mama mama help
please yeah the quality isn't as good can we switch it back can you try and switch it back
we can deal with the in and out i think what i need you to do is um i'm gonna leave and i need
you to send me an invite link i have to send you an invite link yeah you're the host now i made you
the host okay i can do that okay hopefully it keeps recording um it stays live god i hope it
stays live oh my god it might not stay live wait don't leave why are you gonna leave it's not
picking up my mic as an option for okay the freaks say that we're better off just chilling okay
I'm sorry
and they also want you to ask Siri if she's listening
hey Siri
are you listening to me
we're good
been having important phone calls
in this office
you better not be fucking listening
I threw an iPhone though so she's listening
in there too
she got me
Siri's got me by the balls
that's one thing we didn't have on the list
I know we're talking about bullish stuff but
did you see what happened in Florida
with that water system oh they got hacked yeah that's pretty crazy oh no but but uh krebs thinks
it was an inside job disgruntled employee all right luckily um luckily there was that astute
employee who was on top of it and reversed the uh the poisoning of the water in that particular town
but let's get back to bitcoin billionaires are coming in it's going to be
is the FOMO starting like who's next like is Apple are these rumors about Apple I've heard
rumors about Oracle you think we had Twitter CFO talking about acquiring Bitcoin to pay
employees I don't know how like how much of this rumors are are people just like saying stuff
because they feel like they need to or well the Twitter the Twitter one was fun because it was
the host asked, the CNBC host asked him if they were going to buy Bitcoin, which I love the
premise of. I love the premise of that every time you do earnings, the CFO has to go on CNBC
afterwards because Twitter reported their earnings. He's going to be asked about Bitcoin.
And what happened was he was asked about Bitcoin live after their earnings were good. They beat
earnings. They were up like 8%. The stock was doing well. It's like every CFO's dream. Now I
gotta go do the cnbc show he's doing the cnbc show guy asks him if they're gonna buy bitcoin and he
gives like kind of a non-answer but we're considering it we're thinking about it the
stock goes up another fucking eight percent just fucking pumps just on him commenting that they're
considering it you know so it's like a it's if if if we have if we have the host just asking them
this question all the fucking time and putting them on the spot they're gonna have no choice
but to fucking play ball is this good for bitcoin yeah like yeah fomo is good for bitcoin is this
like when kodak was putting blockchain in there no like the block whole different whole different
why is it different because we don't we had like long island blockchain we had like shit coins we
had like all this fucking shit now we even had like the bullshit where like long island blockchain
like bought miners you know and now we have even the self-professed mining companies like mara who
were like we can't even do the mining we're just gonna fucking buy the bitcoin like the pump is we
buy bitcoin that is completely different than last cycle that is a whole different whole different
ball game we're in um in terms of signaling and whatnot in terms of shit coins and blockchain
and crypto and all this fucking shit versus just we are gonna stack fucking sats we're gonna stack
as many as fucking possible and and if if if you don't stack we will stack them you know and they're
all going to fucking and i think my inclination is that we go back to challenger companies right
this is always what we said on the pod is that it starts with the challenger companies in a lot
of ways even though tesla's s&p 500 pumping is held by millions of people uh challenging the
incumbent it's still a challenger company right like like elon is like the trolliest rich you
know richest man in the world we've ever had you know and and part of the reason they bought
bitcoin was because if you're an elon hater like is there anything more he could do to trigger you
besides buying bitcoin uh like there's very few things he could do so so in that way they are a
challenger company but they're massive and they put in a a fucking chunk of change man yeah it
was like 7.7 percent of their their cash holdings right yeah so yeah i mean one and a half billion
dollars one and a half billion dollars like like we've we've been oh you know big corners are
gonna get targeted for this and that and whatever and these guys just come in you know they just
come in they just make us all their bitches you know fucking massive fucking buys um but yeah
who's next i the the point is is is there's two types of boardrooms going on right now right
there's the guys that realize and are scrambling to buy as quick as possible and it's not a quick
process this shit is not priced in it is not priced in at all um and then there's the board
rooms that are like ah this is a scam we're at the top and they're gonna buy at 100k
right is this last cycle is this
like it's hard it is like is there is the culmination of this billionaire class starting to
move into the market with authority with what's going on in parallel in in the government and
the world of politics and central banking like is it a perfect storm or just like a slingshot
to to a new normal in terms of bitcoin price cycles or is there this time is different
right i don't want to be that asshole no look look
we if if we go by past cycles and like you can believe in s2f you can believe in whatever the
fuck you want you know s2f is like just trying to quantify design to pump forever as far as i'm
concerned it's just designed to pump forever and who cares about the specifics you know what price
it hits it when it hits it it's just gonna go up you know to the right eventually um but if we go
bypass cycles right 3x all-time high is the floor of the next cycle okay three is 60k okay so for
people to say this is the last fucking cycle and we're under 3x last all-time high is fucking
bullshit right it's like absolute bullshit if this is if this lines up with a similar cycle as last
time right then you go up to 400k and then we come back down to 60k right i think this cycle
could be longer and more aggressive than previous cycles because all of a sudden you have this
billionaire class waking the fuck up and as we said there's a different model at play here risk
model at play the risk is reduced because like let's be honest i don't think anyone thinks
bitcoin is going to zero anymore and and the risk is reduced because there's such whales they get to
pump the price themselves just for coming in so i think we could see a more aggressive and longer
cycle here um where we end up at a a new normal uh where you know you end up the floor is 100k
instead of 60k or 150k instead of 60k but to say that's the last cycle is ridiculous like you hit
like 700k and then you go down to 150 i call that winning you know but i i to think that we're not
going to get a dump at some point at the end of this fucking cycle and i promise you joe is going
to be telling us joe weisenthal is going to be telling us that the next halving is priced in
that there's a death spiral that's happening like all that shit is going to happen we're going to
get all the same fucking bullshit fud maybe we'll have some flippening bullshit mixed in there all
that shit is going to be the same it's just the question is what is the top what is the
recorrection but for a stacker who the fuck gives a shit right i don't fucking care and while we
have you freaks stack as hard as you can like today without getting wrecked yes that's why you
stack stay humble don't overextend but today was the day like i sent my my high school buddies in
our group text i was like all right guys like i hope you're stacking sats please just tell me
you're stacking sats so what i do in my group chat which i implore all the freaks to do is every
morning just send them a message if you're the bitcoin if you're the uncle jim of your group
send them a message am i the only one who's stacked today and it it hits them hard like
they might not show it at first but it hits them hard day after day you just hit them with it it's
like a different variation of have fun staying poor yeah a little less uh abrasive right
um yeah i mean and also don't tell people in person to have fun staying poor
i told my god dude it does not i know he's not listening because he's so fucking pissed at me
but like my my cousin who in 2017 like told me i was an idiot because i wasn't buying a ripple
and i was like all right dude whatever back then like he he texted me this weekend and uh and told
me i was an idiot because i'm not buying silver and i told him to have fun staying poor did he
take it horribly you got so fucking pissed at me like so offended i think it like strained
our relationship to a certain extent my lady said it to a good friend and i like
i was like you can't you can't do that you can't chill me ripple and then show me silver
i know i know but it's like there are boys right and even though he was misguided for ripple like
you know way misguided he's your boy right my cut he's my blood right he's your blood he's
your cousin um and like he knows that you've done very well on bitcoin yeah you know so it's like
extra it's like it's like it's one thing you could ride this way from thirty dollars to a thousand i
was like bitcoin's at forty thousand the the funniest part is is the guy she said it to though
he finally did buy bitcoin he wasn't gonna he hasn't he hadn't bought bitcoin the whole time
it did work it worked so ud was right in that regard but it was harsh it was fucked up i i was
i i do not support it yeah tell noriel to have fun staying poor don't tell your boy to have fun
staying poor called jp koenig to have fun staying poor tell tell those types uh the fud that's the
other thing like elon getting in uh the energy fud this week like people trying to virtue signal
like oh tesla is like a green energy company how could you be supporting bitcoin a network that
consume so much energy and that's happening right now at 48 000 like if this well you call that
appreciate like if this explodes like you just described i can't even imagine the screeching
coming from from the no-coiner class that's gonna happen it's gonna do it you have the live chat
open right now no why what are they saying it's all caps oh i saw all the freaks are in caps
right now matthew matthew the people that are listening on the podcasting apps they don't like
you getting distracted by the comments okay i'm not looking at them but they oh you're not how do
you know it's all caps uh it's like no agenda you got it okay it's like no agenda you could
check in on the troll army uh every once in a while okay but this is our show this is me and
you mano y mano okay this is a bullish week uh where should we go next like do you want to
should we like bring it back to some bitcoin technical talk should we talk about cold card
multi-sig vulnerability that that oh yeah we're blown out of proportion by a lot of people we're
supposed to front load vulnerabilities but like when there's a nine thousand dollar candle we
talk about the nine thousand dollar candle first yeah that's it that's a new tfdc rule it's a
cuck buck vulnerability front loaded with that you know um yeah so i mean the cold card had a
vulnerability that was patched in a firmware update v 3.2.2 i think it was december early
january no it was early january january 8th i believe it was patched um so before you use your
cold card again update your firmware um this is a multi-sig vulnerability so if you don't use
multi-sig you're not vulnerable to it um if you use uh your multi if you have a multi-sig setup
with other hardware wallets um then they could mitigate that if they offered the feature but
they don't uh so so so basically the premise is is that when you do multi-sig um you have to
verify all the information that's coming from other the other signers right so you have signers
you have three or five signers ideally it's five different types of signers only one of them is the
cold card um all from different manufacturers all different types you know maybe some are in
hardware wallets some are general purpose computers and you have all these different
types of signers and each signer should verify everything that's happening on all the other
signers and verify every receive address and every change address so there's all this verification
that needs to be going down all this communication that has to be going down between the devices
and we have no standard for it this is all new shit um something that's discussed a lot though
is like we need to get a hundred percent i mean we're we're moving guys we're moving i i've said
on this pod you know six months till easy multi-sig like we're working on it like things
are things are moving we're going quick things are moving um but these are hard problems to
solve and their coordination issues um and and with the cold card the cold card is on the bleeding
fucking edge it gives you so many fucking different features that you can do that other devices do not
even offer um so so in this case it is also on the bleeding edge and it had this issue where it
wasn't verifying um the x pubs of the other devices the other devices that were presenting
it to so so really a key takeaway i mean if you're if you're using multisig a key takeaway is you
probably should have and and so i had rodolfo by the way the day of the of the vulnerability release
i had rodolfo on dispatch and we went for four hours i'm pretty sure it's the longest podcast
in bitcoin history it's definitely the longest podcast in tfcc history you sent that to me i
downloaded the file i was like four and a half fucking hours well once marty marty you know how
it goes once i saw it hit 335 i was like we're going for the record right let's go um how dare
you we got drunk we got drunk our episode was supposed to be that well the next one will be
we'll beat it number go up records are records are meant to be broken um but we got drunk and
like no holds barred like i went at rodolfo and you know there was a lot of things that happened
in there so like i don't i haven't re-listened yet but i'm pretty sure we had a very good
discussion about it in the middle um i told him to fuck himself a couple times uh so i think it
was a good conversation people should go listen to that but regardless my point is is if you're
going to do a multi-sync setup best practice is you probably have a separate device that has
that is just a dedicated like computer um that has all of your xpubs from all of your keys on it
so these are privacy conscious these are privacy important things if they get compromised your
privacy gets compromised and you should be verifying everything on that device right like
if you have like an electrum or a respecter that has all the keys for all the different
public keys not private keys how would you do is would you produce the private public key
pair on the device and then use an sd card or something like that to move it to this dedicated
machine yeah right like you would you you basically build your whole multi-sig wallet on like a
dedicated computer and you should verify your receive addresses on that as well as on the
hardware wallets that support it right like every time you do and and when we talk about verify
receive addresses is the reason is if the receive address isn't your address and you send to it
obviously you lose your money you send it to a to a hacker but what people don't realize is
if you're not using a hardware wallet most people aren't verifying the receive addresses anyway when
when a trader sends like a million dollars from kraken to coinbase there is no way for them to
locally verify the receive address like those people are way lower hanging fruit um and they're
not getting attacked but they could get attacked basically that receive address that you see on
the exchange website could be a hacker's receive address that's why we check them on the device
but with multisig because all this information needs to be shared and verified it's still very
early there and it's not being checked fully it's hard to check all this shit and all this
information to get checked fully you should have a whole separate computer that is is also
generating receive addresses so you can confirm against it then it's like way harder for you to
get compromised um if you have if you have both of those things going on at the same time right
and ultimately so hugo hugo uh hanoi hanoi of nunchuck um and and like i've had a ton of respect
for him even before nunchuck but nunchuck's a multi-stick coordinator uh that competes with
with Spectre and Sparrow.
So he discovered this vulnerability along with Shift Crypto.
The Shift Crypto team has just acted in bad faith,
just to be completely, completely fucking blatantly honest.
They've exaggerated the claims of this disclosure.
They've made it to seem like cold card is just super vulnerable,
even though most people aren't even using multisig.
They sent out a press release to both Spanish and English publications
uh to try and get it into as many different news articles as possible with an exaggerated headline
um so like fuck you guys like i that it creates so much more issues for us and then you have the
jws that are just scaring the shit out of people i heard people in clubhouse they were like i'm
gonna keep my coins with prime trust because like i don't trust shit so fuck that fuck that shit but
hugo we linked to hugo's disclosure and he has a write-up it's a very good write-up um yeah and
and and one second so hugo proposed a new bip right and the bip solves this so we have the
firmware that verifies it but the bip is really what solves it and what we need is we need a
standard format for the different hardware wallets to communicate with each other so they can verify
all this shit and we're gonna get it okay and when we get it we'll be a lot better off there's
some hardware wall providers that tend to go off on their own uh and they fucked up a stat like
trezor i'm not singling trezor out but like there there was an instance within the last year where
trezor changed something that fucked up the hwi standardization right right yeah let's get it
together hardware wallet providers we need the standardization think of the user stop thinking
about your individual company please the hardware wallets that care about bitcoin will integrate
the standard and then it'll be a lot easier to have uh you know a multi-vendor multi-sig
in a secure way without going through these extra steps of needing like a whole different device
that's verifying all your addresses and stuff my guide we run bitcoin just says single sig
it doesn't say multi-sig because multi-sig should be for advanced users only right now
unless you're doing one of these hosted multi-sigs like unchained capital or casa but then you're
trusting them with your privacy that is a separate trade-off that you're making yes okay and for some
of my stash again disclaimer sponsor but i'm okay with making that trade-off for something like
inheritance stash for my kid like just in case anything god forbid happened to me
that is a trade-off i'm willing to make for that particular right and if you want to be
self-sovereign about it you can use final message.io disclosure disclosure is my service
yeah no it's yeah it's harry we're when it when would you make that six month uh
prediction uh let's just say four months ago i think four months ago it was four months ago
it's probably around there it is getting better shout out to hugo uh like you said hugo before
nunchuck as some of the best content in the space and one of the is one of the best thinkers in the
space he's he's uh hasn't been as vocal in the last couple years uh on twitter or or via blog
post but he has some of the the best content uh in describing proof of work specifically
um and why it's important and and how it it makes bitcoin valuable and why it's important
uh to make sure that bitcoin succeeds so shout to hugo let's get these standardizations like
out there let's work together like the the again the flame wars whether it be between
coin join teams or
hardware wallets
compete
definitely compete but like
be a little
selfless and think about the end goal
of Bitcoin and Bitcoin users
I know but
come on it's bigger
than all of us right
it's
an adversarial environment it's never going to happen
but people should have some self
respect
I agree with what you said
like JW I love you brother
been on this podcast but like going
and like fudding and expecting
people to air gap
Ubuntu distribution
and trade a
7 like a 5 of 7
multisig is just unrealistic it's not
going to happen I'm sorry
it's not going to happen
to the new freaks that are listening
thank you for joining us Bitcoin is designed
to pump forever you should
you should not trust anyone
and you should verify and you should try and learn for yourself best practices um but a really key
uh way to assess things is ask people what are the trade-offs everything has trade-offs
and if they don't have trade-offs for you if they say something is perfect uh then they're
fucking full of shit and using a cold card single sig with my rerun bitcoin guide is not perfect
you know there are trade-offs there are some trust in cold card uh you have to get a shipping
address to them you shouldn't use your home address um you know and and and and the guide
tries to cover as many of those trade-offs as possible to try and create a balance right and
they said and guide says if you want to improve the setup the cool part about this setup is that
you can improve it easily you can you can start adding signers for multisig right um one thing
that craig raw mentioned uh the lead maintainer of sparrow um is is if you use bitcoin core
uh which is what specter uses which what my guy on we run bitcoin.com uses um it it stores it
stores all of your balance information unencrypted on the device so really you should be using at
least a dedicated device for that especially privacy wise um electrum doesn't have that issue
but if you have to run an electrum server that is a massive hurdle for people right so that's a new
trade-off that is entered so there's trade-offs all around and you know some setups will be better
for some people some setups will be better for other people depending on how much they have
also as well right people will graduate between setups and whatnot but if someone's pretending
that there's one perfect way uh and that every other way is a fucking scam uh they're fucking
full of shit they're 100% full of shit everything is trade-offs there's no trade-offs they're lying
to you and everybody's different everybody has different preferences and different levels of
comfort and different technical capabilities do your research and find out what works well for
you um speaking of bitcoin core maybe we can talk about that a little bit i did a little
experiment last weekend and like we mentioned the new mac mini some of you may be hearing me
if you're listening to this live uh through the new mac mini speaker which apparently exists uh
or microphone excuse me uh but i did i've never done this before every time i've downloaded
bitcoin core it's either been um via like just downloading the software and trusting that the
binaries that were handed to me or the package that was handed to me it was going to build bitcoin
core in the correct way so over the weekend i was like i've never done it from source i've got this
new computer people are raving about how how fast it is like let me try to build bitcoin core from
source and i was actually extremely pleasantly surprised to to see how easy it was like the the
bitcoin core guide that they have um to walk you through this process was very easy to follow
and you and our boy jack are doing it together right yeah i mean so jack like unbeknownst to me
or i actually didn't know i saw that he was downloading i didn't realize he was doing on
the mac dorsey yeah jack dorsey i didn't realize he was doing on mac mini but he downloaded bitcoin
core from source last week as well and apparently with the m1 chip uh you need some some additional
dependencies to make uh to build core on this particular computer and i tweeted out saturday
yeah i tweeted out saturday morning like hey uh i'm gonna try and build bitcoin core from source
on my new uh m1 wish me luck freaks and jack saw that tweet apparently and he reached out to me
he's like hey i just did the same thing like you're gonna need to add to add uh these these
lines of code after you clone the git repository and it fucking worked and that like i mean
the the fact that jack torsey is is is figuring out like how to build bitcoin core from source
with an m1 before a lot of bitcoin core developers um have done so it's pretty cool i mean it was
just like wow they reached out he helped me it fucking worked um jonah chanelli has has some uh
binaries as well to help people doing it on on m1 but apparently yeah homebrew needs to add some
things that uh to be compatible with the m1 and right now you need to manually add them yourself
before being able to successfully run Bitcoin day.
That was pretty cool.
And yeah, you saw the tweet that he sent out.
It was like, yeah, here's how you do it.
And it's an open source contribution in a way, right?
No, that was pretty cool.
I mean, Jack is based in a lot of ways.
So I asked you last week,
I mean, I said you should do this, right?
Because I wanted to see how long it took M1Wise.
So how long did the whole process take you?
so it took a couple a few days but what i found out was at my in-law's house uh the internet sucks
the internet sucks but i i thought i thought we were on the best package down here it turns out
i talked to my mother-in-law she's like no we're on a seasonal package like after after september
they like they they rate your internet down to like the lowest package so we've been like
literally using the lowest bandwidth internet for months and then i called comcast and literally
i'm sitting here like i had the terminal open watching like the core index after ibd ibd was
really quick i told you to check this fucking months ago marty no i'm sorry i'm sorry but like
ibd happened within an hour ibd was really quick but then the indexing after initial block download
was taking forever but as soon as i called literally hung up the phone with comcast they
like switched our internet up and it went from like a trickle of like indexing to just like
like um so if my internet was up to snuff from the start i imagine would have been like within
10 hours um it took a couple days uh one and a half of which uh were you was using the lowest
bandwidth internet that comcast has to offer my my little bit of the city i'm sorry brother um
so so the freaks are the freaks are asking about your mic it's because marty is recording through
his i mean he's broadcasting through his mac mini mic but the reason he still has the mic in front
of his face is because we we are we believe it's recording locally on that mic so it is recording
locally i can confirm quality for the podcast he's not just like uh he's not larping with the mic
even no no i'm recording locally on an sd card the important thing for the freaks to realize is
that marty made sure this happened because he tweeted out the other day that he got a full
new setup and there'd be no audio problems on tftc going forward so there's no way that you tweet
that out and and you don't have audio problems like it was a given it was gonna happen i saw
you tweet it out i was like fuck you marty we're gonna have so many audio problems it's like not
even fucking funny the video is looking good though am i coming in clear you look you're like
It's a new camera, right?
New camera, new green screen back here.
Actually, no, I'm in Mavericks right now.
I'm in the ocean in a boat.
This dude's just been chilling inside the barrel for quite a while.
Yeah, I got to figure it out.
That's pissing me off.
This mic has been working.
I recorded some podcast via Zoom, and it's been working beautifully.
I guess the live stream fucked it up somewhere.
I got to figure that out.
I'm working on it, freaks.
The clear looks great, Marty.
That's from the freaks.
Thank you.
Thanks, guys.
Love all y'all.
I will never upgrade my camera, freaks.
Please.
What you see is what you're going to get.
What if I buy you one and send it to you?
I mean, you could buy me a nicer mic, but, I mean, based on your track record,
I don't even know if I want your mic.
This mic is pretty.
This is the mic you used to use when we do it in person.
You say you don't like this mic?
We're not listening to you through that mic.
That's true.
I have no idea what's going on.
You guys listening live are suffering.
I'm sorry.
We're going to make it better next week.
You know, growing pains, okay?
All you freaks listening at home that aren't commenting live,
you're lucky.
All right, you're getting a high qual.
Yeah, I mean, if you buy me a new camera, I'll use it.
I mean, to answer your question,
if the freaks buy me a camera, I'll use it as well.
I'll buy you a new camera.
But until then, I'm going to stack the stats instead.
Okay.
We can expense this, like tax deductible.
I'm done.
Bitcoin, I mean, we mentioned it when we were on the dashboard,
but hash rates at a new all-time high, not surprising.
I did record a podcast earlier today revolving around the mining industry,
and it's crazy.
It makes a lot of sense that hash rates at an all-time high,
prices at an all-time high, hash rate follows price.
It's the way the network works.
Some people are estimating the hash rate should double again this year,
which is pretty crazy to think about.
But the conversation earlier today, it's insane to think that this time last year, like, especially, or a month, like, 11 months ago, in the middle of March, when you had that, like, crazy price crash, people were selling S9s for, like, $15 to $20, like, in March, April, beginning of May.
They're going for, like, S9s, which are miners that have been around for, like, six years.
they're bricks yeah well they're not they're still i mean at this price they're still profitable but
they're selling like 250 into bitcoin for you they're selling it for 250 dollars now so like
if you were just like really yeah dude it's insane that's uh like the the hardware mine that's like
something i've come to learn working at grand american mining the last few years is the
hardware the asic market is very reflexive to the price as well like the physical options on
bitcoin which are the asic machines track the price pretty pretty tightly it's like a little
bit leveraged almost yeah because if if if if there's a lead time especially on the new hardware
right i i i would probably guess that the old hardware tracks the price better because the
new hardware has a lead time so people have to like price in um if i get it in two months i think
bitcoin is going to be this price and usually it's probably in a bull market it's this price higher
right and then it prices according to that but if you get like an old if you get old old machines
then you'll probably get them right away right so it probably tracks it a little bit better
yeah yeah because yeah the demand the supply is able to fulfill the man immediately and you can
have that negotiating where the supply is going to be fulfilled six months i don't know though
there's like new new batches are selling out at pretty high rates as well um
but yeah that's like something but that's my point right the new batches have a higher premium
because you have like the butterfly labs effect you know it's like bitcoin's gonna moon and i
want the newest asic one day my butterfly miner will come tell tell the uh tell the freaks the
butterfly lab store uh i mean it's just an exit scam yeah it wasn't an exit it was like a failure
that was garza right that's the dude behind that no no garza was pay coin that's what that was
which was had a floor of 20 the coin would never go below 20 butterfly labs too butterfly labs i
think was someone else um but butterfly labs was was i think they did one generation of basics and
the next generation just never showed up um or it finally came and it came like super late uh like
after the hash rate was way way higher um and we've seen that long time in the history of
the other company was asic minor i think they actually called themselves asic minor right and
they had they would share they would trade shares on havelock um havelock's investments the centralized
uh bitcoin based equity market uh well and yeah so i mean so there's a long history of bitcoin
mining companies that have offered pre-orders um that have failed to deliver either in a timely
fashion or ever uh yeah dragament delayed significantly delayed it happens all the time
like if you're pre-ordering miners you're probably going to get wrecked you probably shouldn't do
that yeah yeah sometimes you get lucky and they get delivered on time and the failure rate's very
low but a lot of the times it's not the case it's either delayed or especially if it's like the
first batch of a new generation and the first test like it's a risk that's why if you're in
the mining industry you want to drive your your cost of power production down as low as possible
like try to get into the the lowest five percent of the mining industry and then you can use
later more vetted better vetted models that you can depend on and you can sacrifice that that
decline in hash rate produced by the machine because your your cost of power production is
lower you have that competitive advantage that allows you some leeway in terms of hardware
uh the hardware that you acquire don't order bitcoin miners just don't pre-order bitcoin
miners so i mean some people are if you're a professional consider it fine yeah it depends
fragment was probably a bad pre-buy but like now like bitmain some batches are bad to pre-buy but
like others have paid off my point is same thing marty if you're like an individual miner and
you're just gonna have like one or two asics in your garage because you want kyc free sets or
whatever buy on the second you should only only buy things that are not pre-orders that buy things
that'll get shipped right away that are known that are that's a known it's a known machine that you
know is going to give off this much you know this rate at whatever like buy that don't buy a pre-order
that's that's very good advice yeah for individual miners um while we're on the subject it's not on
the list either but became apparent yesterday samsung announced they're going to build a 17
billion dollar foundry in in austin texas which is massive this is has massive implications it's
going to be done by 2023 which is really quick i was surprised that that was the timeline within
two years um so they're applying for permits uh and again samsung is the foundry samsung
obviously south korean company everybody knows who they are their foundries in south korea
micro bt who makes the what's miners they utilize that foundry tsmc is the foundry that bitmain
leverages and both foundries are both semiconductor companies are building foundries
on u.s soil at the same time tsmc in arizona and samsung in austin texas and there's just
massive for uh the decentralization of the mining industry and bitcoin the bitcoin network by
extension so this is an incredibly bullish uh news item that that is something i've been waiting for
and something i've been talking about i've been bullish on like the incentives i don't remember
you ever mentioning this uh the the incentives beyond bitcoin just from a a national security
perspective for the the compute that goes into our military technology is strong enough that it was
you'd have very important yeah you had to believe that something like this was going to happen
national security issue yeah and so this is massive that this is happening so you have tesla
going down there samsung going down there is austin and is silicon valley i guess that's the
question supposedly biden is himself like the biden administration is prioritizing this
um because i saw it went out in all caps on twitter i'm like if it goes out in all caps
like you know you know it's real uh good good good um is austin the new silicon valley or is
miami the new silicon valley i think it might be austin miami's like like are those people
like are the people moving to miami now like have you ever lived in the south when a hurricane
rolled through there i mean hurricanes hit austin too right yeah but more rare and by the time
austin's pretty far inland that uh the the hurricanes uh are not as strong when they get
that far in obviously there's some outliers i know like it got as far as houston um a couple
years ago i forget exactly what hurricane the austin crew is strong as fuck so when when you're
so you're going down to austin to tour austin and visit our austin bitcoiners uh like the strongest
citadel probably in the world right now to be honest um i mean they don't have anti-aircraft
guns set up yet so i'm i'm not sure like i don't know i wouldn't be strong more in a metaphorical
sense um so there's there can you explain to the freaks there's like some kind of uh a&m
bitcoin conference that's happening while you're down there yeah there's um a conference at texas
a&m i know michael saylor is going to be there i forget the complete while you're down there right
I believe so
I don't know if I'm going or not yet
Oh that's not the main reason you're going down there
No I'm just going to check it out
I promised the Austin Citadel crew
That I was going to come down in January
Due to something
It was going on a great American Monday
I couldn't make it down
And so I wanted to be a man of my word
And when I
Welched on that promise
I immediately booked an Airbnb
For two weeks
yeah like it like um at my in-laws house right now been here for almost a year it's time to uh
to move out my the wife and i are trying to figure out where we want to lay our roots and
the austin crew is recruiting pretty heavy so we're gonna go check it out for two weeks and
see what it's all about and see if we move to austin number one bitcoin citadel in the world
um yeah i mean that that's awesome that that's exciting yeah i forgot what was the oh oh the
camera that you're using the freaks want to know what camera you're using you're using a nikon
uh right now this is a logitech i have a fuji though uh x710 or excuse me ss10
uh that i'm waiting on a lens to come in before this is a completely this is not the camera this
is a different camera yeah this is a logitech a shout out to uh crypto bobby uh who actually
recommended this camera that i'm using now so what you have two new cameras no i've had this
one for a while you just haven't used it i have used it but i always thought it was shitty but
now i have it like in the middle of one of those led lights and it's working much better than it
did so marty has like a big ass led thing going on like all these different lights and stuff
meanwhile marty every time i wake up i'm like i launched a new show like i just want to go dark
like i'm just gone like what the fuck but i'm not gonna i won't leave you freaks i can't do it
i'm here with you we'll do it we'll miss you we miss you too much
why why why are you gasping it's a bullish week good things are happening are we winning i just
i kind of dad i kind of want to take like a six month break and just like come back at like 140k
but like i know i can't do that for the sleep no sleep no sleep till 200 once we hit sats and
parody though freaks like i'm going dark like it's over it was a good run uh we were right
you know and uh we won't be necessary at that point at some point bitcoin becomes water right
right i mean at some point when you want to listen to like your recent bitcoin news you just open
cnn yeah right it's just gonna be it's just gonna but it's just gonna be like channel two news
yeah like you open up channel two news and they're like the difficulty adjusted up today
right the whirlpool all-time high yeah they're gonna change like the bottom right hand is not
gonna be like clock time and the weather and the degree in fahrenheit it's gonna be the block height
and the degree in fahrenheit outside marty how are you gonna surf in austin
let's see i brought this up to parker and i and
there's going to be some trips taken to to central america
south america the flights are cheap and not that long i'm gonna have to take well when
priced in sats everything's cheap yeah and i'm pretty sure kelly slater has a wave
uh ranch down there as well shout out surfer jim shout out surfer surfer jim
long island surf ranch i can't wait to try it out i know you guys are working on permits right now
i'm wishing you luck on that i will be one of the first to come try it out and i have not forgot
about your idea about using miners to heat that pool i think it's a good idea i think we can make
it happen let me know when you get the permits we will figure out a way to allow you to mount
mine bitcoin to heat that pool oh no not even that does he want the spare wave and energy
that as well so you generate the wave and then you recycle the wave you recycle the way you use
the waste heat from the miners to to heat the pool it's a circular it's beautiful beautiful baby i
told i told our boy server jim that i would handle that for him and by by me saying that i just meant
i was just gonna tell marty we've talked about i was like i got you bro talk about a big block
boom for like an hour it's possible i think um how profitable it is is a question but anyway
that's a problem right like being close to the ocean i know it again so i should preface this
austin citadel crew is eager for me to get down there i have a lot of family up here i do i am
a family man i do love my family it is going to be hard uh to be pulled away from them so when i
come down there you're gonna have to sell me extremely hard um if we're talking about negatives
of austin crew there's it's been very lowercase from them i've noticed recently justin moon get
your caps locks on very lack of caps you know like justin what the fuck is going on parker what the
fuck is going on over there i just you know i i trust your guys judgment to a degree but the more
lowercase letters i see come out of those accounts you know the more questions i have yeah i get
worried i get worried is it like is it all larping are you guys larping about how dope it is down
there is there no urgency is there no urgency is there any meat behind your tweets or are they just
is it just all lowercase are you living a lowercase life are you living a stack mentality
it's a question they have to answer you have to look dig deep into their souls
and ask themselves am i a lowercase individual i hope not i hope not now you got me one to tweet
in all caps now just so i don't dude everywhere i look just caps caps rule the run caps rule
everything around me caps caps odell again with a zinger when does it stop when does it stop
uh we should get still keep going down the list uh we're at software updates we're an hour and
six minutes actually we're not we can i'm liking the vibe of this episode right now
we will get to software updates uh samurai wallet version 0.99.96c
is available i actually upgraded my samurai wallet on my pixel i forget what version it is but it's
burning graphene and i did that over the weekend the performance enhancements are are material
of graphene well graphene i downloaded that too but uh samurai like that's what i use my
graphene for oh yeah samurai up is great yeah like uh it's like i was playing around with it
last week or this happened on the 8th or earlier or no the third yeah it was last week um it's
like a noticeable difference am i am i wrong in saying that uh no no i mean the performance in
general has just been going up and to the right i think yeah yeah um so if you're if you're running
samurai go download it um i've used it yeah it's it's worth uh upgrading to this version again
version 0.99.96c um nunchuck mentioned earlier uh the team that that uh announced the the cold
card vulnerability they're out with version 0.9.7 anything notable you want to chat about
was it's nunchuck yeah uh no okay uh join mark i have nothing i have nothing for you for all
these updates okay join market version 0.8.1 is out uh and then sparrow version 1.1.0 is out
that's it very uh very short software update list this week
yeah everyone was too big like the bull market's gonna slow everyone down
we can't concentrate no one can concentrate let's be honest don't get don't get complacent
freaks that are building out there please don't get complacent no one's getting complacent we're
just all getting rich stay humble maybe stay humble please uh one thing i did want to bring
up that i should have brought up last week but i forgot to um a bitcoin core contributor
reached out to me after our discussion about tour uh especially tour version three and the fact that
it was acting pretty shitty after it got attacked.
A question came up of,
are there alternative privacy networks like Tor
that Bitcoin Core is working to implement?
And the answer is yes, actually.
And here's the message.
Is it ITP?
Yeah, so Bitcoin Core's current dependence on Tor
is why we're adding support for other privacy networks,
i2p invisible internet project probably in the next release then cj dns after that i don't know
about the other ones but itp is a shit coin why do you say that itp has been hyped forever tour
seems like a shit coin too no tour works tour tour is very bitcoin-esque in that it gets the
fucking job done you know like there's a lot of haters but it gets the job done and people rely
and it works and and i2p is like well if it's not i2p is like we're gonna have tokens on lightning
or something i don't know you know it's like uh it's like something that is i've it's a constant
two week and we're gonna get it in two weeks i've been hearing i2p for fucking years do you think
bitcoin core users shouldn't have the optionality yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean we should support all
of the privacy focused networks you know technologies or whatever possible that's what
i'm trying to say um but my point is is that we're very much reliant on tor and we're going to be
very much reliant on tor going forward is that a good thing as long as we don't operate under
the premise that we need tor uptime it's fine and you need tor up okay but for on chain we don't
that's true for liquid we don't it's true so okay so that's a lightning thing that we should figure
out and and and the real solution if someone was going to ask is is a sophisticated watchtower
ecosystem yes where we have semi-corporate watchtowers that are operating on both clear
net and tor but for me the point is is like it's a professional watchtower and like a tor node can
pay them via lightning to watch them so even though the watchtower is being run by a known
entity the tour node that is being watched by the watchtower isn't a known entity so like a bit
refill watchtower or something right where like you go to bitrefill.com slash watchtower and then
like you put it in your pub key and then you like pay the invoice and you give them whatever and
then they they cover your ass you can't do private channels without tour right enables the private
channels uh no you can do private channels on clear net okay they're just not broadcast a
private channel the only difference between a private and public channels is not broadcast
the the difference between tor versus clear net is that your your counterparty that has the other
channel with you knows your ip address okay and your ip address docks is so much shit about you
right that's what's like really funny is like funny like not funny uh funny like when we have
people shit talk hardware wallets and they're shit talking hardware wallets because um you have
to get them shipped to you so it's a privacy risk of doxing bitcoiners and they do it on a clear net
app that requires you to upload your contacts to to invite other people uh and and is cataloging
phone numbers and is not encrypted and is listening to every chat you're making and then tells you
They have a back end run by a Chinese Communist Party company.
Yeah, and then they tell you to go to a clear net website
where they could easily be logging your IP address
is complete bullshit.
I agree.
I'm not going to fight you there.
It is.
So is Clubhouse the new TikTok that we're falling prey to?
So Marty, I did actually kind of call you out a little bit on Dispatch.
I forgot about that.
What'd you say?
About TikTok versus Clubhouse.
like you were so so you were pro tiktok ban right yeah i'm pro i'm hey are we pro club
what i think the experience on clubhouse no that's not what i meant though no i think that's
why i haven't been using it that much in the last tiktok versus clubhouse why should tiktok get banned
but clubhouse doesn't get banned so the the ambiguity here not ambiguity but the gray area
here is like it hasn't been confirmed whether or not that company agor is actually officially
associated in running the back doesn't matter like it's coming it's an american company no
my point is neither should be banned and they're both corporate surveillance apps
okay you know i'll concede that yes so like the question really is like the question people have
about clubhouse is like are like u.s government corporations uh u.s government supporting
corporations uh spying on you or is or is also the chinese government spying on you as well
right like that's the question but really at the end of the day all these apps are spying on you
they're all corporate surveillance apps and it's a slippery slope to say that any of them should
be banned so none of them should be banned but like people should be aware of the trade-offs
when they're using these services right and they should try and use burner numbers they should try
and use burner email addresses they should be aware that their ip address is being leaked they
should be aware that all their voice conversations are being transcribed and recorded most likely
and monetized um so like these are things other people should be aware of but like we shouldn't
be banning apps and it's interesting to me where the tiktok back and and the first conversation i
had on clubhouse which i signed up for to be like complete disclosure right i did use it i did use
a burner number i didn't upload my contacts but i did sign up for it right um the first conversation
i had was how tiktok was garbage and and clubhouse was the bees knees it was like the best thing ever
right and it's just an interesting thing it's an interest you know like yeah like come on guys
like it's all corporate surveillance including twitter which we use you know including zoom
which we're yeah youtube recording through right now we're broadcasting this through twitter and
youtube and twitch it's like the three it's the three heavyweights of american corporate
surveillance that we're broadcasting through but like let's not pretend that's not the case
right okay okay you're making a very compelling point maybe i'll concede this point too
cheers that is fucked up it's like ah like dude like again like if you're not paying you are the
product clubhouse is obviously very free tiktok twitter we pay for zoom so they shouldn't be
fucking spying on this though but they still are right yeah that is yeah like that can we flip
this model that rule doesn't guarantee that you're not being spied on it's just that if if you're not
paying you're definitely being spied on exactly but like they might also have a value add out if
you pay that they also spy on you and like that's the thing like the rumor is with clubhouse actually
that their monetization model isn't going to be ad based, which is promising.
Like that's a good thing. We don't want, we, we,
I prefer if a company's business model is aligned with their users in a way
that the user benefits, the user receives more subscription dollars.
And we see this with Substack. The user receives more subscription dollars.
Substack receives their bigger, their percentage. They get their cut, right?
they get their cut users happy user has more audience sub stacks happy sub stack has more
revenue right and and the incentives aligned but it doesn't mean that there isn't games being played
behind the scenes but it is important i think that we support companies that do have aligned
incentives and zoom is one of the zoom is one of them but like they're definitely still spying on
us but but their their incentive is that if they provide us a quality product we subscribe every
month right yeah and i mean it is a quality product we're using it now you're they're not
picking up my mic correctly so maybe not as high quality as i previously thought but uh yeah it's
uh it's uh it's tough right my wife's screaming downstairs she's uh frazzling my brain right now
why is she screaming because uh she just found out that you didn't have the best comcast
package this whole time she's talking loudly to the babysitter explaining things
baby shut up um just kidding i love you uh the that's why i'm very bullish on the sphinx chat
app and the the roadmap they have like it's sticky i like it it feels good as a user that is
contributing to the podcast that i listen to via that app and then as a podcaster as a content
creator is being rewarded um and i think the way they have their uh basically like node services
set up does align incentives correctly i agree why are you laughing are you reading the fucking
comments right now what are they saying they said they said your wife is mad at the package just not
the comcast one yeah i could have told you that i'm like i was i was doing really well at staying
concentrated and then i couldn't help myself on that one freaks you know what it's the ocean in
the motion the wizard not the wand okay that's all we gotta tell oh that's all uncle marty's
gonna say okay i gave them way too much satisfaction they're super happy now
in the comments you sick fucks don't talk about my wife what she thinks about my package please
mind your own business freaks if you would appreciate it uh uh we already talked about
twitter cfo do you want to add anything to that no i mean he didn't even they weren't even planning
on announcing anything bitcoin related they just kind of got ramrodded on that it was just hilarious
yeah jack like let's have some consistency between companies here like you got a very
get a bitcoin message at square yeah i mean jack let's be honest like you can criticize jack all
you want like if he had the leeway to take all of twitter's cash flow and put it into bitcoin
he probably would fucking do it yeah i agree won't think as much control over twitters anybody would
like um yeah so hester pierce came out ready for this is like bitcoin etfs coming she's right
she's ready to work with gary gensler to bring a b etf to market oh so thank you thank you
commissioner couldn't wait like that's why we pumped it wasn't elon
so this is i mean for any any any freaks who are new to this podcast to bitcoin this has like been
one of the biggest memes in the space since what 2016 2015 the winklevoss were like oh we're gonna
an etf in like march of 2017 except except that michael saylor and fucking elon shoved their hand
they pushed their hand here because if these guys don't make a move like every single company
in the s&p 500 is going to be a fucking bitcoin etf so they have to fucking offer it if they
offer it it takes some of the wind out of the sails of the these companies putting it on their
on their balance sheets because there is a desire for bitcoin exposure and that's why we see all of
these gbtc competitors release this week i don't have it on the list but blockfi released their
version it's not a ticker yet this is why i don't have it on the list um but there's like three or
four companies that are doing exact clones of gbtc um with smaller lower management fees than
gbtc to compete and it's because the market desires exposure to bitcoin without learning
about private keys those boomers want access and if hester pierce doesn't give it to them
they're gonna get it through these these companies balance sheets and uh so so so if they want to be
responsible and they and like also after the game stop shit like this whole idea that like
oh a bitcoin etf isn't a responsible thing to do is like fucking ridiculous you know like the
fucking weed stocks are going crazy i got my boys they're like oh i'm trading like chinese electric
car companies you know i'm like trading this and that and they got like 3x short s&p 500 etfs and
shit like fuck you like the everyone knows it's a joke when you say like oh we're trying to be
responsible and there's no bitcoin etf right and it's like we talked about last week calper is
getting exposure to riot micro strategies alone is outperforming bitcoin since they made that buy
right they're up like 800 percent or something like that yeah the freaks actually corrected me
because i said like the overwhelming i said they were like in line with bitcoin they're actually
way outperforming micro strategy because they just assume they're gonna buy more bitcoin and
because the demand is so fucking high for bitcoin exposure like people want bitcoin exposure they're
demanding it and the regulators are the ones being irresponsible here yeah rodolfo just
you didn't listen to the four hour dispatch sorry rodolfo i was actually recording a podcast did he
like dm'd you about it no he tweeted at me he's angry three minutes ago thanks for listening
rodolfo we appreciate you love you you must be listening live yeah it's uh it's an honor
he can't help himself i love my block lock i love your block lock uh the price is getting
further away from fifty thousand dollars in the wrong what the fuck is going on freaks i don't
know what the fuck is marty drinking bourbon plus beer plus ice yeah the ice is melted in my cider
i got bourbon and i try to stay hydrated with the water as well are you reading the live chat now
no i'm checking twitter stop checking twitter what the fuck are you doing bro
if you're gonna if you're gonna reward any freaks for live action it has to be the live chat you
can't like fucking the next thing we know he's gonna be like oh i'm on instagram i just got
like tagged by lindsey lohan lindsey a lot of people got angry at me last night for my lindsey
lohan tweet i didn't i wasn't coming at lindsey i was coming at the bitcoin to the moon like just
force-fed tweet the i think it's it's like literally like what do i tweet about bitcoin
it's like oh publicist like i got the tweet for you it's gonna blow up oh well bitcoin to the moon
right yeah and she did it all lowercase yeah which is like according to very low energy lindsey
very low energy well i used to be a radical lowercase like let's be honest here right
like i i'm a man of extremes i was radical lowercase now i'm radical all caps um but but
the thing with lindsey lohan and we've seen this with soldier boy the tweets look very similar
these celebrities they pretend they're rich okay they they're short bitcoin they don't have any
bitcoin they are poor they have cameos you can go to cameo.com you can make these you can make
these so-called rich people do anything you want for 350 you can they're buying these tweets are
being bought by shit coiners for like a thousand dollars to shill shit coins because these so-called
rich people aren't rich they're poor they don't care about their audience and and and it fucking
shows they're short bitcoin we're going to squeeze the fuck out of them i cannot believe if if marty
if you took like even if you took like five thousand dollars to show a shit coin on your
twitter feed i would have zero respect for you i you would completely be dead to me you we can
share a screen i could show you dms right now of how many i know i get them all the time i get them
all the time you'd be the poorest person in the world to me and i feel like this cycle is going
awake we're gonna like people are like these are top things having celebrities endorse these
shit coins they're not top things we're still very early in this cycle it's just the shit
corners have gotten a little bit more sophisticated the celebrities have gotten a little bit poorer
and and and that combination of the two is is the celebrities are just all being bought off for like
pennies they're getting they're getting bought off for like you can get lindsey lohan to show
your shit coin for like 500 000 sats you know like are you fucking kidding me like what the
is going on yeah it is i mean it's weak right like don't and again like i say a lot it's a
long-term reputation game right like are you willing to blow your reputation on 500 sats
for a shit coin not 500 000 sats but still 500 yeah i mean yeah hopefully you're not doing it
for 500 but yeah you sad sack of shit you're doing it for 20 cents
i can't even rub two pennies together i need those sats
ah yeah i mean it's that is crazy to think like how early we are if
not a financial advice not trying to predict any price action but if we are very early
bozal mescal responding oh let me read that in spanish please
move it move it back a little bit
okay it's uh that's the mezcal of the day that was pretty horrible pronunciation
bozal's great this is good shit
you don't even know what i just said you don't know you can't even speak spanish
you just said it terribly bitcoin moon
hey yeah was it lasana no lasana is dinner right i don't know uh fuck it less lasueña
is dream like dream big a lot of people say uh dinner is what is dinner no breakfast
we're not gonna get into no spanish
that's all i'll say um
this is pretty cool our boy grubel's over at blockstream shout out to blockstream
we announced last week that they uh they are distributing the bitcoin core repository from
the satellite one one-way transmission you want to download the code that allows you to access
Bitcoin, Bitcoin Core specifically,
the Blockstream satellite is streaming that information
to anybody with a satellite that can accept it.
And then Grubel's wrote a, what are we calling this?
A guide?
A guide, yeah.
Orbital data freighting with Blockstream satellite.
You wrote a guide with a very, very nice title.
yes um basically explain how to send big files via the blockstream satellite and this is something
blockstream satellite is like one of the coolest things in the bitcoin space in my mind when we
say blockstream satellite we mean like there's a bunch of satellites and also they don't own
the satellites no they own a channel in these satellites they rent them yes um well that's
what like the tesla news too so tying us in it like that's not tesla or excuse me spacex uh
The Blockstream satellite channels are lonely up there.
They need a companion.
Starlink's a game changer.
Right?
Starlink is a big game changer.
I've seen the data come out from friends that are using it.
Are you a beta tester?
Oh, no.
I was just, someone mentioned that as a capital B.
Stop.
I'm sorry.
You're like, oh, I thought you were like, oh, I'm using it.
No.
Oh, no, I'm not a beta tester.
It's hard to be a beta tester for Starlink.
like you can't it there was there's a freak that's a beta tester though i know a couple
beta testers and they say the data transmission is like insane yeah yeah i mean and rurally it's
it's very difficult especially in rural america to have good internet i mean the internet fucking
sucks and like it like i'm someone who's looking for land like i want to have a large amount of
land um starlink really opens up the possibilities uh in terms of land that has good internet um so
i'm pretty bullish on that i mean if you look at if you look at the elon stack right richest man
in the world he could close the loop so incredibly he's got the cyber truck he's got fucking energy
he's got batteries he's got spaceships he's got vehicles you know he's got internet he's got
tunnels like what did you see my tweet earlier this week let's let's focus on bitcoin though
like he could put a bitcoin node lightning node in wallet and his tesla fleet uh you go to a
charging station you can you can make it machine to machine payable it's lightning network there's a
there's a proof of concept out there already i forget exactly who made it but i wrote a newsletter
about it in the summer and resurfaced it earlier this week uh and then you could have the starling
satellites feeding that fleet of cars block header data like accepting or receiving transactions
or like the way that he can implement bitcoin from a full stack perspective into every one of
his businesses and their business operations is mind-blowing like you could literally create
but all this is bullshit no it's not why no no it's all cool right but really why is it bullshit
because it's fun and and and and when bitcoiners need it it will be like inevitable in the future
right but when we're talking about it's mostly mental masturbation like when we're talking about
why do you say that because tesla stacking you know four billion dollars more of bitcoin
is a way is a way bigger uh okay thing you want the liquidity it's like it's the same thing higher
price floor it's the same thing like uh i'm in it for the tech bro like the uber ceo the uber ceo
was like they're looking into bitcoin payments for taxi rides right like that's bullshit right
and like it's the same thing like like car-to-car payments and stuff is cool like that that's not
car-to-car it's like car-to-charger that actually makes car-to-charger what if you get charged by
another car uh what do you mean you get like my car has full charge you need to go a little bit
farther and we're parked next to each other like i should be able to charge you and you should be
able to take some of my battery is that possible could you do that you know one day in your mental
masturbation you'll be able to do it for lightning but i'm saying it's not that big of a deal you're
the one meant you're the one making up all these fake scenarios i'm talking about is that a cool
scenario that's a cool scenario i'm talking about what's possible this is like legit possible like
i said there's a proof of concept okay i have another we know the satellite exists in block
stream like there's no reason starling couldn't do it too like these are possibly this is a mental
masturbation like you're driving you're driving down the highway you're driving down the highway
the person in front of you is driving very slow and you want to go faster so you just
automatically send them a lightning payment to move out of your fucking way
it works car-to-car payment but way less effect than a four billion dollar purchase on tesla's
balance sheet why would you pay for that when you can just put the pedal to the metal and
route around them i don't know i like the idea of like the slow traffic gets paid and they just move
just move them out of the way automatically see like we have a total convoluted view of this here
in america because of the speed limits we just need to like bring the autobahn to the u.s like
people should just be allowed to drive this i'm a fast driver i drive i only drive under the speed
limit only responsible driving i'm like a consistent between 80 and 90 uh if if there's
no traffic, a little bit above
90 type of guy. But it does feel like
Elon's building a stack, right?
Right? That's
all I was trying to say, Matthew. I agree.
The potential for the stack is pretty
massive. I 100% agree.
Right?
Does he realize it?
Does he realize it? It doesn't seem like he realizes it.
Is he fucking with Doge? Is he
fucking around with us? Does he actually know what's
going on? Or is he
confused about the...
Because you've got to think, a PayPal,
Bitcoin is exactly what they wanted to do
Like fuck the Doge Schilling
But it was kind of cute that he said that his son
Was a toddler hodler
So that makes you like
That little toddler hodler
Is like a little leak
That's a Bitcoin joke
I know what I'm fucking talking about
That's a Bitcoin joke
You don't make that joke otherwise
But like the stack
When you think about
Like you have a toddler hodler
Like that's funny
Like you guys laugh about that
You're like yeah that's funny
yeah yeah a toddler hodler i can hear him right now i think he gets it i still think he's short
bitcoin and if you listen to the scaramucci interview scaramucci also thinks he's short
bitcoin like if you don't like he's he's the richest man in the world right he's he's way
overweight fiat yes that's true so compared to me speaking from these guys yeah these guys
they have to move fucking mountains to not be short bitcoin i mean there's over there's like
50 million millionaires right and they can't each own one bitcoin 47 million or something yeah
that's crazy they can't each own a bitcoin this is something we've been saying for years right but
but but now that that wall street bets has come in and people know what a short squeeze is
now we're trying to meme this meme this hard and and the truth of the matter is every single one
of those millionaires they're short bitcoin and the squeeze is going to be fucking ridiculous
it's gonna be absolutely ridiculous like i literally don't think humanity up to this
point in history has ever experienced like the type of step function change that we're about
to experience right so did you have a typo on that tweet yeah i said compute i had such a good
response and then you just deleted it on me it was perfect and i'm sorry but i literally was like
crawling in my insides instead of comparing like my autocorrects change it to computer it didn't
make any sense oh yeah fair yeah um yeah i mean i don't think humanity is ready like people don't
realize like this has never happened before this will never happen again like this is we this is
crazy this is the what what is about to happen is going to and like i wouldn't we literally
chemically as a species as an animal don't have the prior experiences to react to what's about to
happen like like our lizard brains aren't ready for what's about to happen i don't think maybe
we're being too bullish but like no we're not this is the thing it's like if i'm gonna join you twice
weekly like i need to make clear how i feel otherwise i will feel bad in six months and
it's important that people realize that we're sitting in a ridiculous scenario right now like
right now is the most bullish time i've ever been in bitcoin it's not once in a lifetime it's once
in humanity risk you're talking about all human history risk adjusted bitcoin has never been more
bullishness today i have never stacked more on a daily basis than i do today i stack more today
than i've ever done and i probably should have stacked earlier what we had that little dip into
like the low 30s last week i just kept stacking i bought that tip and like just looking at that like
buying the dips at this point right now you'll be so proud of your future self once you buy that
it's important that we make this clear because otherwise i will regret it
and i do not want to regret it no the freaks need to realize
we there's a sad squeeze going on we are just getting fucking started guys this is going to
be ridiculous it's going to be absolutely ridiculous and none of us have enough bitcoin
no and what do you want to say to your future children when they're sitting there
2035 2040 papa papa what were you doing during 2021 different than that guy marty's owl
yeah asshole what were you doing like do you want to say like i was slacking ass just hanging out
gambling i was gambling oh yeah i gambled on the super bowl i took the oath oh i did gamble
in the super bowl did you gamble in the super bowl fuck no i don't gamble i've never gambled
on my i've made one bet in my life a junior year in high school there's kids at my lunch table that
ran a book and i bet the eagles would cover the spread tom brady's the goat do we agree literally
bet i literally bet ten dollars that the eagles would cover the spread against the patriots i
won that bet i've only ever made one bet in my life i won it and i've never gambled since is
is tom brady the goat yeah i mean it's hard to like seven betting on tom brady as he went to
tampa bay and took them to his championship in one year betting on tom brady as the underdog
was the easiest sats i've ever earned in my life yeah so thank you to all you pigeons out there who
uh who bet on the chiefs what a racist team name oh stop that i'm sorry i'm sorry i win one bet
And then all of a sudden I just
Calling the other team
That was a boring Super Bowl
I turned it off
We started watching The Sopranos
It's not boring when you have a million sats on the line
No, I don't gamble
I'm happy you won that bet
Me too
There was a $9,000 candle the next day
Thank God I fucking won it
Is fantasy considered gambling?
Yeah, fantasy is also considered gambling
It's less effective gambling
It's the extent of my gambling
it's like dollar cost gambling yeah because you you like average it out for the whole
every week right sometimes my cousins will play this game called shut the box
or we'll play like five dollars not very humble caps i agree let's get pretty big
what did you play boxes this this this super bowl uh no so i'm talking about a different game it's
a dice game called shut the box um really fun game i'll throw like five to ten dollars on that
every once in a while so i do gamble but nothing nothing's saying if you're a freak out there
listening to sports gambling fiend i feel like you're coming like don't bet on sports bet on
sats bet on yourself if you do consider nitrogen sports.eu which is bitcoin only no because then
you're telling people to give up sats instead of cuck bucks for i'm just saying like yeah you're
you're you're making them sat poor you're advising people to become sat poor right now i've never
used it but if i were to use a gambling site i would use nitrogen sports.eu they've been fantastic
and they're only bitcoin they're bitcoin only yeah don't don't don't entice the freaks to
gamble away their sets i advise against that don't use any gambling site stack sats and said
say my mother my mother she plays the the fucking lotto every day and i'm like mom
stop buying these lottery tickets like it's literally yeah i mean but designed to make
you poor just literally go on the cash app and use the money you would to buy these lottery
tickets and buy bitcoin with it but if you're if you're comparing lottery tickets to a money line
on the goat then then you know that that is yeah i'm not gonna bet against tom brady but i'm also
completely different it's a completely i'd rather bet on bitcoin than tom brady even though he's the
goat i'd rather bet on bitcoin to be clear to be clear i lost all my bitcoin on sales with clubs
so i have no bitcoin now it's gone i lost it all gambling i was surfing mavs earlier today and had
my hardware wallet in my in my board shorts fucking age shit it's at the bottom of of the
ocean rest in peace god bless that uh that person who goes on the treasure hunt and finds it
we talked about michael saylor a little bit earlier today uh he launched a an academy
for bitcoin courses shout out to our boy stefan lavera uh is very integral in this uh michael
saylor academy uh it's just an aggregation of the best content to help you go from zero to
understanding bitcoin and why it is an important asset in our lives today and will be for our
children's and grandchildren's lives moving forward um really well done uh bj boy potty
uh parker lewis a bunch of magazine bitcoin magazine a bunch of really good content that
we've talked about throughout the years no tftc concept but we're like not but heard about that
at all like uh the the uh i'm fucking with you uh it's if you want to send somebody to like go
from zero to understanding bitcoin i really like the the would you call it a syllabus or the course
yes syllabus so so sailor academy is is the absolute coolest thing that michael sailor has
done beside it's the eighth coolest thing like his seven yachts are the are the the coolest and then
the sailor academy is dope it's free it's a completely free education product um stefan
handled this course he did all the curation for the course it's like a fucking 10 hour course
all completely free to learn about bitcoin um that's badass like props to you bro uh for both
of them props so i don't know if he got paid for it or not props to both we did a lot of work i'll
tell you definitely props to like sailor like billionaires don't have to educate people for free
so that's fucking dope but michael if you're listening to this bitcoin is a currency okay
like i'm just gonna say wait no so we actually talked about this on dispatch and uh rodolfo
convinced me what'd he say this motherfucker is speculating attacking the dollar he's he's
attacking the dollar and he's just like i'm we're not attacking the dollar okay that's what he's
saying right he's like and he's charging horsing it all right he's right but the metaphor i used
was put in put in in ukraine right where he just like took the he took the logo off of his army
guys and he was just like oh but those aren't those that's not russian army you know and like
he just like sent them in and like he just took it over and like that was enough plausible
deniability that everyone was like oh well i mean it doesn't say russia we don't know they're just
guys in camo we don't know who they are right and that's what sailor's doing sailor's just
he's speculating attacking the dollar he's legitimately attacking the dollar
yeah i mean encouraging other billionaires to attack the dollar and then at the same time he's
like no we're not attacking the dollar i i agree with that okay i can get down with that and nothing
is more makes that more evident than the 650 million dollar convertible note at 75 bits
that got rolled right into bitcoin and it's worth something like two billion dollars right now
uh it's insane yeah no i mean i i'm sold i'm sold on that one like he's
he he must know he must know he's attacking the dollar
like he's doing it he's literally living that he figured out the cheat code he's fucking going for
it and i i kind of love that he's at the same time he's like we're not going to replace like
there's no reason to hold dollars in a world in a post bitcoin world like you hold the bare
minimum dollars um and people realize that like we had the the guy i started dan nathan of risk
reversal advisors who i started dispatch with this week on cnbc he was like he was like if we do not
ban bitcoin every single company is going to replace the u.s dollars on their balance sheets
for bitcoin he he owned it he owned it he basically was like bitcoin is the best money we've ever had
and everyone should own it unless we ban it like he he brad sherman the fuck out of it he just
100 understood the value but he was like completely combative right like he's like we can't he's like
mike green like we can't do this like yeah he was like we're gonna regulate the shit out of it to
make sure that companies can't do it because otherwise there's no reason for them to keep
the shitty money over the good money this is this is a perfect segue into what came out of nigeria
today 100 like the nigeria senate had like a hearing um i don't think it was specifically
about bitcoin but i think bitcoin became a topic and i've heard about it in the bend today but it's
just like it's so illuminating like how some politicians think about this and like what
bitcoin's actually doing so again nigeria the nigerian senate they had a tweet thread today
of a basically a live tweet thread of a hearing they had again bitcoin was a topic that came up
and a few senators of the Nigerian Senate
just had a discussion about it.
It was actually a very nuanced discussion.
There were some naysayers,
and then there were some people like,
hey, people are building good businesses
and doing good things.
It's undeniable that this is actually helping Nigerians
create successful businesses.
and so the tweets i highlighted in the bent today is where it starts so senator sani musa uh who's
like worried about bitcoins and like it's funny because they get the the gravity of what's going
on right now cryptocurrency has a worldwide transaction which you cannot even identify who's
owns what nuance there uh the technology is so strong that i don't see the kind of regulation
that we can do so saying we can't regulate it like i don't think we can actually regulate this
bitcoin has made our currency almost useless and valuable so this is where sonny goes wrong like
and that's what i wrote about today is like the bitcoin is not the reason why your currency is
almost useless and value is like the i looked it up too i went to the what is equivalent of the
st louis fed for the nigerian central bank and they printed they expanded the uh naira float by
30 last year in the last 12 months uh so they expanded the the free float of of nigerian naira
which is their currency by 30 which is pretty significant um and so like it's not bitcoin
doing that like well bitcoin gives people an option to leave their currency yeah so that's
what i said so they they expanded their balance sheet they expanded the free float of of the units
of naira which just naturally devalues everybody's uh holdings of naira within nigeria and then on
top of that like you have the the nsars movement where they shut down the bank accounts of those
uh those protesters and then recently attempting to shut down the ability for banks to operate
with cryptocurrency exchanges and stop using the c word bro bitcoin exchanges we can we can be the
change you want to see in the world you know just switch it with bitcoin thank you for they're
they're closing the bitcoin or bank account i'm reading i'm reading what they're saying they
bitcoin is the reason their currency sucks you know just switch up that they actually did say
bitcoin has made our currency almost useless but it has it has pretty much made their that's
projection it's projection projection was the word two weeks ago and again we're going to bring it
back they're rejecting what they did to their own currency again they printed it 30 and they
expanded their amount of naira in in the market by 30 in the last 12 months and then they've
weaponized the the financial system within nigeria against their own citizens and so like you can't
not expect well individuals that turn to bitcoin in this situation when you're debasing their
savings and and you're inflating away the currency they use and then on top of that you're not even
allowing them to use that currency for they what they want to so they're naturally going to turn
of bitcoin and that's what like it was very interesting about the senate hearing at least
the the peak and that we got with this twitter thread particularly that there seemed to be like
nuanced discussion so like another senator chimed in said um we didn't create bitcoin
switching it out for cryptocurrency and so we cannot kill it and also cannot refuse to ensure
it works for us and that's the thing like they they reference like the young nigerians using
You just said it again, bro.
Well, that's what they're writing.
Just replace it in your mind.
These children are doing great business with it,
and they're getting results.
This is incredible.
I'm so pumped somebody said this.
I mean, they're so out of touch.
Nigeria cannot immunize it.
Well, no, this guy, Senator Bayardin Elujimi,
I think I pronounced that right, he seems to get it.
i think so like i think this might be the our our queen lummis down in nigeria no they're so out of
touch that they didn't realize when they tweeted this out they were going to get ratioed of course
they're going to get ratioed like you guys are just it's like it's such a self-owned it's like
a massive cell phone our lady christine covered it the best um these guys they're going to need
to cover the escapes lagarde if they don't if they don't if they don't cover the escapes
then why would we ever stay with their shitty money why are we going to use your shitty money
if we can use better money unless you block us from using better money and it's going to become
immediately transparent as all of these countries start trying to block the exits from their shitty
money they're proving that their money is shitty in the first place and they can't they they can't
effectively block the exits they're not they're not it's well that's that's a beautiful irony
this particular uh argument from the one senator in nigeria today is like oh they're turning to it
it's like with the nsars movement they literally force people into bitcoin and over the summer
nigerians turn to p2p exchanges over central like paxful i'm pretty sure nigeria is number
one in volume on paxful i could be wrong it's up there at least top five at least and and like if
you speak to any nigerians you know which there's a lot of them on clubhouse we've had a lot of
conversations with them on clubhouse uh recently like a lot of them use these p2p exchanges and
the way the nature of p2p exchanges if you go listen to the episodes we recorded mount alborg
from useful tulips is like you'll do one like above board exchange on paxful and then you'll
you'll basically develop a rapport with a trader and you'll just trade directly without a third
party over whatsapp or telegram and that seems to be a very significant driver of bitcoin trading
within nigeria specifically and that's just like highlights that again and these senators admitted
it like we can't stop this like they're using it and they're building successful businesses
that's the beauty of bitcoin it's fucking happening man it's working that's what like
it's i get pissed like this week with the western journalists like uh energy fud like bitcoin has
no value why is it expending all this energy like i would love for these journalists to go to nigeria
and go to these these people in the nsars movement and the people have been cut off from banking
and and tell them to their face that bitcoin has no utility go tell these people literally
anybody from slash dot bloomberg fucking mike.com box.com you privileged asshole idiots you guys are
ignorant go to nigeria go to lagos go meet one of these bitcoiners in lagos that is literally
using bitcoin to skirt state sanctions on bank accounts and tell them that bitcoin has no utility
i would get it on camera get it on camera and bring it back i want to see that that interaction
when you tell this person that bitcoin has no utility it's fucking disgusting that these
asshole like journos try to say that bitcoin has no utility like it's it's
It's infuriating.
I would love to see the reaction video.
That would go viral.
Tell these people that Bitcoin has no utility, please.
Assholes.
The Nigerian politicians, I'll give them a break.
The reason I highlighted in the bet today is because this is what Janet Yellen and her crew are going to say about the U.S. dollar.
They're going to blame Bitcoin.
They're going to be like, oh, Bitcoin is the reason why the dollar is failing.
It's like, no, you're incompetence and you're mishandling a monetary policy.
and, conversely, the politicians mishandling a fiscal policy,
that is the reason that people are turning to Bitcoin.
Bitcoin is not the reason that you made these stupid decisions.
People are turning to Bitcoin because you made these stupid decisions.
Like, that is the causality.
It's not reversed.
They're trying to reverse the causality, and it's not going to work.
Like, it's too obvious.
You are too dumb.
People are waking up.
It's the digital age.
It's the internet age.
We all have access to this information.
you're losing in the market of truth in the market of ideas you're not going to win bitcoin is
inevitable the sooner you bend the knee and let your citizens adopt it and use it freely the better
off they will be we will be the common man will be accept it the the point i was trying to make
is is that i i think these sub-tier countries um these non-american countries they have to deal
with uh the u.s dollar hegemony to begin with right so they already had to deal with their
currency being way worse than u.s dollars um so i i don't blame them as much um they come from a
society of currency protection where they realize that if they allow free market competition of
currency everyone's just going to use u.s dollars um the hypocrites are the brad shermans of the
world that are like oh but we should control that supply we should not allow free competition of
money um the hypocrites are on the american side uh as far as these uh agreed other countries
that don't have strong i think some of the nigerian senators like got it they're like hey
like these guys are making good business i love how you're talking into that mic and like i don't
hear you through that mic it's fucking hilarious every time the freaks that are listening most of
the freaks that listen to this podcast are going to listen to you the podcast apps and
they're going to be happy i'm talking into this mic i'm sorry i'm just i'm just glad you're all
caps marty you're just all caps marty is is going hard right now and um that's what it's about
caps rule everything around me
brad sherman come on the pod bro let's have a discussion
i spoke to brad the other day
what was he saying not why would i speak down that there's no connection i have there
so we had the gladstein reason video this week um since the last time
best content it was very good and again like gladstein basically said what i just said in
more level-headed and uh articulate way i think i mean like way more but yeah
he's very good at being articulate right he makes me feel way less articulate i'm not very articulate
in any form it's written or so he did it with our boy jim epstein um for reason and it's dope
everyone should go watch it and honestly like send it to all of your like progressive woke
friends who are like anti-bitcoin right and go tell those people perfect for them belarus zimbabwe
Nigeria, Venezuela, Russia, tell them that Bitcoin has no utility.
Tell them it has no value.
I dare you.
I dare you to go do it.
Get it on film.
Please get it on film.
I want to see it.
And shout out to Reason.com.
It's an incredible publication.
Shout out to the Epstein family.
Not only Jim, it's Father Gene, what they do at the Soho Forum,
what they did at the Soho Forum before the lockdowns.
One of my favorite events in New York.
um just like straight uh socratic debates uh over economic issues and other social issues
uh just incredibly um a great family like the epsteins do do great stuff uh whether whether it
be via reason.com or the soho forum so for him i miss dearly i hope it comes back um at some point
in the next year you miss it at all yeah i mean it was dope as fuck i miss new york i miss my city
but everyone should go watch that it was he did a really good job um and then we had arthur hayes
and vanity fair that was i didn't read the whole article i feel for arthur man did you read the
whole thing no i didn't i read the whole thing which i usually don't read the long ones like
these like these journalists they're like i'm gonna write a fucking 20 minute fucking thing
that you're gonna have to read and and people are gonna read like no one reads that shit but i read
it because arthur's a boss and i miss him like we don't have him on twitter right now he's in hiding
he's he's we're not getting his newsletters he's he's somewhere in the seychelles probably
or i don't even know where he is he's in the seychelles where is he i don't know it's a small
islands right so like probably not actually he's probably somewhere else i mean i think he was in
hong kong at one point i i'm not trying to dox where he is because i have no idea where he is
the vanity fair article was really fucking good it was really fucking good um i don't think people
should speculate on bitmex especially now that it has kyc but that dude is a boss he's a true
bitcoiner he's a pioneer like what they did at bitmex before like they got kyc thrust on them
you can speculate about them front running their own customers and stuff like that but like if
you're just like approaching it from a like building a product from a way that's done
in a bitcoin native way that is stays true to the ethos of bitcoin and is uh is um like
they were arbiters of the bitcoin network too like their daily withdrawals
there you can only send and receive bitcoin you can't have any fiat reaction i think the best
bitcoin native business to date in in the bitcoin space by far so i fucking they provided products
for the market that the market wanted it wasn't regulated people regulators weren't happy but
people wanted to use them people did use them and they provided a service a lot of people
lost sats on there but a lot of people made a lot of sats on there too and they did it the right way
like i if you talk about like innovative companies from a bitcoin native perspective
bitmex should be number one i mean i don't know about number one but but they they definitely
kept it real you know they kept it real and i respect the shit out of them um freaks we got 183
of you um right now in the live chat um we have 12 retweets on twitter so if if if you want to
support the show the single most important thing you can do for the show is retweet our live stream
on twitter uh we we would appreciate that that that is a it's a big deal for us yeah we get we
get a lot of dopamine hits when we get the retweets so make sure you make sure you smash
that and if you know me well you know it's hard for me to say that but that's the single request
i will make everybody's on clubhouse dude podcasting's dead no they're not on they're
not on fucking clubhouse they're here with us i'm looking i'm not looking at the live chat right now
um but if i were i would request for them to to give us a retweet on twitter guys or at least
you gave us a little sad squeeze in the comments you know give us a little sad squeeze let's go
let's go go mark it bye all right people are people are retweeting it works it works thank
you freaks i love all y'all thank you freaks thank you matt thank you matt i mean appreciate
you freaks i mean thank thank you well marty should be thanking me i should be thanking the
freaks that's this is how the it should be uh we move along the it's a little uh what do you call
Order of operations
Right, it's math
Science
PEMDAS
There's an order of operations to these things
That's what I'm trying to tell you
Thank you
I've been trying to say this for
Castle Island, our boy Nick Carter
And Matthew Walsh, our boys
Nick Carter, Matthew Walsh
Walsh, Walsh
Raise the second fund, Castle Island Ventures 2, $50 million.
This news doesn't really matter, but they're our boys, so it's dope.
Matthew Walsh helped me break the micro strategy news.
It's good to see Castle Island getting some money.
I mean, they're like the signal in venture capital, right?
There's no real venture capitalists in Bitcoin
that are actually targeting Bitcoin-focused companies
like they are, in my opinion.
Agreed.
Everyone else is too.
They're getting tokens and blockchain
and all that fucking bullshit.
Dude, do you see that NFT?
You're going to get your hash mask
or whatever it's called.
What the fuck?
All these NFT shits?
It's all noise freaks.
It's all bullshit.
Everybody's like,
oh no, you want that digital scarcity.
so you're going to want to have, like, no.
NFTs are dumb.
The standard for non-fungible tokens are SATs.
That's why you need to use CoinJoin.
Right?
Yeah.
Do you want, like, to own...
Would you spend $100,000 for a JPEG?
No.
Why would you ever do that?
That's stupid.
Why would you ever do that?
That's some...
Oh, Marnie, they're not JPEGs.
They're unique, like, hash certified.
Like, it's a fucking JPEG at the end of the day.
it's some it's some poor man's logic is what's going on there like that's some like ridiculous
fucking shit that's how you end up shilling shit coins for like 500 000 sacks like that
that's how you end up in that hole it i mean honestly like i i like to think that i
uh approach things with intellectual curiosity and and like earnestness like earnestly it doesn't
make any sense like i would never ever spend a hundred grand on a fucking digital nft a digital
jpeg it doesn't make any i mean maybe i'm dumb maybe i'm missing something that honestly that's
earnestly i feel like it doesn't make any fucking sense you that's it's a really bold claim from
marty bent that he would not spend a hundred thousand dollars on an absolute piece of shit
bitcoin right really bold i'm i'm glad you put your name on that one well they'll gaslight you
man it'd be like it's huge it's huge all the artists it's gonna revolutionize it's gonna do
all this it's gonna do that it's a new wave of art it's like is it is it is the current wave of
art even good is it current wave of art even worth it like no no i respect our bitcoin artists and
i'll buy their art yeah like crypto graffiti making like the the silk road stuff and like
the like dollar like cutting out the dollar making like paper mache art out and then like
maybe there's something there if if my certificate of authenticity is tied into the bitcoin blockchain
instead of you know like like i get the physical art that you actually give i want physical i like
physical art i don't get the jpeg art wait no no so i'm saying i have the physical art and then
it's also tied into the to the you can't tie the physical to you can't tie me space to a blockchain
though it's just impossible well no you could because you can't because somebody could come
and say matt oh i took your physical art you may own it on the blockchain but i actually possess
it no no so you could you could take a picture of of the of of the art and you can hash it into
the bitcoin blockchain and you can enjoy that picture all you want no you can present it you
can present it as a certificate of authenticity for the art that is bought in physical form
and as long like it's still physical art though yeah right somebody steals that physical art and
you own it on the blockchain you owning it on the blockchain doesn't mean dick like okay but i'm
just saying but regardless either way uh art is a horrible store of value and i love all my artists
but like it's gonna it's trending to zero when price insets like with everything else like you're
also in the same boat as the owner of the chrysler building i'm not saying that it's true uh you're
in a different situation there like that's the case like you're still in the same situation as
elon who the majority of his wealth is in tesla stock seems all trending to zero in terms of
bitcoin that sucks for elon though he can't like liquidate that without inciting a mass uh
collapse of that stock sort of stuck in that
until it gets priced in sats maybe it should get priced in sats
um i added these to the list we'll just lightly touch on them uh janna yellen
my bitch lover uh she she made some she because you put the gif i put this this line in our
telegram oh my god me kissing her i yeah i did that i did the marty kissing uh yelling gif i'm
thinking of uh what's his name uh from wedding crashers the brother your owl is my your owl
is saying that that that yellen is hot he's attracted to her she could have been back in
the day is that ages maybe do we have a young yellen photo look it up for you it's kind of
creepy she came out i mean like the prototypical weak fud misuse of cryptocurrencies misuse of
Bitcoin is a growing problem, like citing terrorist financing.
With the FUD, you can still say cryptocurrencies.
And money laundering.
It's like, all right, this is easily debunked.
The US dollar is the vehicle of choice for money laundering and terrorist financing.
But this is the argument, right?
This is the argument we're going to hear.
Yeah.
It's coming.
I mean, it's already been here.
It's been here for almost a decade.
I mean, they did this with Parler.
i mean parlors uh shit coin example of it but still you ever use parlor no i mean but
the it's like the majority of you know neo-nazis or whoever they wanted to say use parlor
use twitter for you freaks listening at home matt put neo-nazis in quotations the majority
used twitter right but parlor was percentage like parlor was the target so they hit parlor with it
right they said parlor was the one who did right yeah but like the majority were using like the
world wide web they were just like using the internet they were using like reddit they were
using twitter they were using like all the mainstream platforms they were using facebook
they were using instagram and but but but they hit they hit the niche platform they didn't like
right and that's what's going to happen with bitcoin we will get hit you know and we'll
let's stand it it's bullshit and and we'll deal with it well this is why it's imperative to build
out these p2p open source apps and access points to bitcoin get the like that's why i love sphinx
app and that's why i say sphinx right sphinx that's why it's sticky like that's a p2p
app that leverages
RSS feed and lightning network
that actually, like,
UX is good enough, right?
Yeah, but it's centralized.
Is it, though? I think in the current setup,
it's pretty centralized still.
No, because I was talking
to Justin from Sphinx last night. It's a Sphinx protocol.
Why is it
centralized? You can hook up your own node.
It picks up your RSS feed.
Maybe the UI is centralized, but
the concept... We'll find out.
I promise you we'll find
out everything that's centralized about everything as it happens do you have any optimistic bone like
maybe like yeah my optimistic bone is bitcoin is designed to pump forever i think we're gonna win
i think we're winning freaks i think we're winning too uh i tweeted out in all caps we continue to
fucking win and we fucking do we fucking do freaks we are winning i am trying not to win it's hard
not to win when you had the truth on your side right like i guess the objective truth in the
form of the bitcoin blockchain too i guess and we're talking our book or just talking your book
i don't even know do we have i don't think we're talking about i think we're talking objective
truth here like anytime we get a no-coiner or pre-coiner like in the realm of like a philosophical
or ideological debate like truth prevails we have better first principles better critical thinking
better answers to the problems
that face humanity today
like bitcoin is a better like it's objectively
true we are objectively
fucking winning
yes
but
we need to make sure
we continue that process yes
never let up complacency
kills
keep beating them into the ground freaks
we will never stop we will never relent
we will keep going
hashtag sad squeeze
seriously don't
we're going to squeeze them all
it's going to be the most
fucking crazy thing that anyone
has ever seen in their lives
it's going to be ridiculous and we're all going to do it together
and
we're going to laugh along
the way
we're going to build strong families along the way
we're going to build great friendships along the way
we're going to build great towns
great technologies
it's all positive
stop being so lowercase
yeah everybody
get your caps
get your caps up
get your caps up
we're going to win
it's going to be peaceful
it's going to be beautiful
the potential of humanity
is going to be opened up
we're going to save the environment
we're going to save our country
we're going to save our children
we're going to save everyone
together they're going to thank us
we're gonna win and they're gonna thank us i don't even want thanks i want again i want to
fade i want thanks and i will say you're welcome
stay humble matthew stay humble i will stay humble okay at 100k turn your hat backwards okay
but look no okay yeah no i mean i'm getting a little excited here but i do believe like we
can do this peacefully we can do this globally we can do this distributed like
the truth is on our side freaks the truth is on our side the objective truth that the bitcoin
blockchain provides is on our side and then the truth of the matter that it is better than the
system that perpetuates the kantian effect that perpetuates a two-tiered system that keeps the
calming man down like the truth is on our side maybe i'm rambling this is the first time i drank
on a thursday and like a month and a half it's about fucking time i'm sorry bro i'm sorry the
freaks what are the what's the uh comment section oh they're loving it they're loving it the comments
the comments are going i mean if i was hypothetically reading the comments uh they're
they're like the freaks are all about it they're the freaks are with us um we're with the freak i
mean i'm with the freaks uh i mean i'm not with i'm not with the freaks you think i'm like fuck
you guys no i'm unhypothetic i'm hypothetically not with the freaks but i'm with the freaks you
know oh yeah we're all together they're fucking killing it it's all right in the wave we're all
right in the way our live chat is not just all caps but it is it's all guys everyone's all in
caps and it's the most beautiful thing i've ever seen and it's fucking fantastic and honestly we
are the haters are going to fucking their mind is going to blow it's already happening dude it is
going to be ridiculous and then the craziest part of this whole process is in three years they're
going to be showing us bitcoin they're going to be telling us like oh bitcoin's this bitcoin is
that bitcoin's this and i'm just going to look at them and be like yes yes oh really okay i'll look
into it look into it interesting i love you guys i love you matthew again positive vibes so much
right we are winning we and we can win in a peaceful way in a distributed fashion it's not
going to be peaceful it's going to be peaceful i think i think it's going to surprise people
no one's peaceful about like losing their wealth and their position and their power and all that
shit that's true maybe i wouldn't be peaceful about it
like if someone was going to take my fucking position in the world enough to realize
if someone was going to take my position in the world i wouldn't be peaceful about it well
what dictates your position in the world right you don't have a predetermined position i think
i guess we're getting philosophical here like if you really do believe in positions in the world
it should be based off of
like
meritocracy right
and if you believe in a true meritocracy
and the Socratic method
then you should be able to concede when you're wrong
yes it may make people angry but
you can't deny reality
or excuse me if you can't accept reality
that's a you problem
wait
these freaks fucking destroyed it
on Twitter after I asked for that retweet
so fucking thank you to all the freaks out there like that's fucking crazy like this is why we do
it you know this is why we come in week in week out um two and a half years like has it been two
and a half two and a half years of rabbit hole recap we started august of 2018 it's been it's
been
probably
over 300 hours of
rabbit hole recap. Easily.
Yeah. Mostly drunk
to be honest.
Always short the corn
also to be honest.
We probably should have owned more Bitcoin.
What the fuck were we doing?
But we did it all with all of you people
and it's fucking fantastic
and I appreciate all of you.
I love all y'all.
Should we end it on this note, Matthew?
yeah absolutely this has been crazy and uh i i marty i want to end it on a price prediction for
next i so i'm anti-price prediction but in bull runs no in bull runs like we're just going to
price prediction everything like there's going to be price predictions all over the place because
we're just going to beat them every week week after week so 60k next rhr above or lower
and and we're currently at 47k just an effort to sound more bullish and you're going to go over
you're going to go over so then i i'm going to go over with you okay this is so you didn't you
don't sound any more bullish than me i think we're going to be at about 61k i'm saying 65 65
yeah fuck you okay done cool i'm i'm down i every rhr this cycle we're just gonna we're
gonna price prediction the next cycle the next i don't know the next price predictions every
episode i don't know okay well i will do it and you can choose you can choose over under
on every episode if you want to or you can just uh lowercase marty it you know
fuck all right i can't lowercase marty it you could just like not say anything
all caps marty came out tonight he's it's great coming out party freaks this is fantastic all
the freaks are all posting their uh price predictions for next uh what are they saying
what's the high i kind of love this i kind of love this post your price predictions in the live chat
if if for next next rhr you know what um freaks i can't my son's downstairs with the babysitter
i don't know what she's doing but he's like giggling like crazy right now she's giving me
immense joy this is why we do it that's sound creepy but like
my son's laughter downstairs is like it's pretty we're doing it for them it's not for us it's
pretty funny that you say that while all the freaks all guess 69k because they think it's
hilarious like the little children they are grow up how many 69 420s come on guys we're supposed
to be rich gentlemen actually i legitimately i legitimately thought about putting on my
tuxedo for this episode because we're at all-time highs i may do that i'm gonna show up just in the
tux one day we're gonna have like the the grand ballroom of uh bretton woods behind me as my
background well i knew it i knew it for the mooch interview well first of all don't tell me when you
do that because that's hilarious you're just fucking running on me for the mooch interview i
said to my lady i was like i gotta wear a button down because i know this guy's gonna pretend
like he's like a hacker and he's gonna wear a hoodie and and she was like no just wear the
hoodie like be be yourself and i wore the hoodie and he wore his hoodie too i knew it i knew he's
gonna fucking wear his hoodie um come on tftc we'll have a little powwow yeah so so pretty much
all the freaks are just like 69k so like freaks like if we don't hit 69k um grow up grow up you
sickos yeah but we don't have to grow up if we hit it then we get to be children again it's true
so 69k by rhr
thanks told you
you heard it here first
peace and love freaks
