That Gaby Roslin Podcast: Reasons To Be Joyful - Gareth Malone

Episode Date: October 14, 2024

Gareth Malone joined Gaby in the studio for a singsong! They chat about the joys of singing and why it is so good for everyone. Gaby gathers the team together for a rendition of 'Bob's Got A Head Like A Ping Pong Ball' and also tries, and fails, to sing 'Twinkle Twinkle Little Star"Gareth is headed out on tour (you can find out more about that here) and Gaby is full of suggestions for songs that he could do. (We're not sure how many notes he took) Remember you can watch our episodes on YouTube now! Please do follow and subscribe there, so you never miss an episode. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Love ironing. Let's talk about ironing. That's how it's on. We're started. So you want to start with ironing? You love ironing. I'm going steaming. I can't iron. No, no. I raise you a steam iron. Like a proper, you know, I have a unit. And the reason I came to this, this is fascinating story.

I was on Richard Osmond's House of Games. Yes. And on that show, they have to get, they have so many outfits. Yeah. Five outfits, one for each day. Yeah. So I went to speak to the wardrobe person, because she had to do with him

it's 25 outfits per show and she said this is the iron for you I forget it's an Italian iron and it has a steam unit and then I have a whole vat 25 litres of deionised water Oh my word

You're going full iron Yeah but it's amazing It just like it glides over and you're done It's second No but you see For years they're going No no no I've been like Austin Powers in the corridor

Sorry I can't No, you haven't gone to Steam World yet, have you? What's that? You just plug in a steamer. It has a bit of water in it. Steams, you close. Hang it up on a hangar, done. Does it work?

Yeah, I took it to House of Games. Did you take it with you? I took it with me. I take it with me everywhere. Every time I do any TV show, and then you walk in, and the stylist who's ever working on the show, they go, oh, you're nicely hired.

No, steamed. Steamed. And also kills all the Coast Moths. Oh, don't. No, let's not. They do not bring. me joy. No, no, no. I like all animals, apart from clothes, moths. And I've got a fantastic jumper that I got in a charity shop. It's neon pink, because I love neon. Love. The moths love it too.

Yeah. I took it to somewhere to get them to do the secret sewing. Oh, that's good. No, it's not. The previous owners of our house went for full wall carpets in about 1990. And then when we moved in, and it was just this, it was just, you know, you'd move a bit of furniture, there'd just be a hole in the floor. Moths. Horrendous. I didn't know we were going to start with moths. I'm sorry that I brought this up.

No, I'm very happy you did. Also, just before we started recording, you did get concerned that you hadn't shaved. I'm shaved. And that your mum was going to, right into YouTube. My mum, just when I shaved, she sort of just goes, ah, that's better. I don't know what it is.

Is it sort of... Does she really? Yeah, but I think it's, I suppose she's quite into ironing as well. ironing, nicely turned out. She likes to shave. She likes everything like vacuumed, nice, you know, clean surfaces. Do you have to take your shoes off at the front door? Shoes off at the front door.

It's all very, you know. She doesn't have plastic over the sofa. Oh God, no, no, no. We're not at that level. No, no. It's a house. It's for living in, but it's tidy. It's tidy.

It's organised. I imagine you like that, though, because you are immaculate. Whenever we see you on television, whenever I've interviewed you, you're always immaculate. So I love that you've started. with worrying about the shaving and you've talked about ironing. You are, and your hair is always exactly, very Gareth Malone. Yeah, I went to the special Gareth Malone shop this morning.

No, I just kind of ruffled it and that's, I like it. See, I think I like things to look roughly organised, but not like I'm trying too hard. Were you like that as a child? No, I mean, I was explosively untidy as a teenager, but aren't all teenagers? I think teenagers that are like, so. super, super, super tidy I sort of worry about. I feel like it's, you know, you should be worrying about other whole mode or things. You have one teenager and one tween age.

That's right. Yeah, yeah, just about. I'm just about to hit it with the boy. Have you got the grunting? Oh, the grunting. Yeah. We've got a grunter, yeah, yeah. Reachable, but, but grunting.

Do you sing around the house with your kids? All the time. All the time. Can I come and live with you? Of course, come around. We've got a piano in the kitchen, a guitar in the kitchen. at all times. A piano in the kitchen?

Yeah, we've got a piano in the kitchen. I've never heard... That's the first time in my life I've ever heard of somebody having a piano in the kitchen. We're quite lucky because we've got this sort of back kitchen space that I suppose at some point

somebody must have knocked something through. Well, this back kitchen space and we've got our next door neighbours we're moving out and they said, oh, do you want this old piano we've got? And it's one of those... Do you know about Danneman pianos? I'm really sorry, I don't.

But they do... Yeah, Joe and... Yeah, look at them. They look. They're like... I guess in the 1970s, Danneman made school pianos and any school you went into,

you'd find these pianos. And they're kind of workhorse pianos, but they're actually quite nice. Are they uprights? Upright pianos. No, you can get grounds as well, but this is a small upright. But they've just got a nice sound

and you can abuse them for years and years because they've built for schools. So that's the one in the kitchen, and I got it for free. Oh, how lovely. What's the morning song then? I mean, do you say, good morning, you know, every morning? Well, there's music practice that happens in the morning in our house

because that's one of my big learnings from my own childhood, which was when my mum used to try and make me practice after school. But the brain, just by that point in the day, I'd learned enough. So I decided I would do it in the morning with the kids, and I've just done that every day for the last, how many years? Getting on for nine years now? Every day? Well, not weekends.

We rest on the Sabbath. Okay. So when they... So they both play the piano then? No, string instruments. We've got violin, cello and violin. Of course you have. You've got a whole orchestra.

Nearly. Does your wife play any instruments? My wife doesn't know, but she sings very beautifully. I mean, that's the first thing you check, isn't it? Oh, yes. Although my husband likes punk and reggae and I like musical theatre, but hey, it works. That's good. Where do you meet?

What's the... So what's the vent diagram? No, no. Occasionally, you know what? There's a little match in BZali in the Bee Gees. I suddenly thought that. I'm planning to do a BG song. I'm doing how deep is your love on my upcoming tour?

Oh, I love that song. That wasn't a shameless excuse to mention my tour. No, we are going to talk about it. For the first time. No, we're talking, singing. And the whole, the idea that your wife sings while your children play, I have, please can I come around for, breakfast just once.

Come, come. Well, we do, currently, currently there's a lot of oasis going on because of the, you know. Are you going? Eight hours of my life that I will never get back. I don't have any tickets.

Do you have a hook up? No. No. But I don't know anybody that I know who got tickets. No, nobody. I don't know who these people are. I know one guy and frustratingly

he lives in Japan, so I don't know how, he's going to have to travel from Japan. No, sadly not. And he's only got one ticket. Oh. Yeah. So that's so good. No, I don't know anybody that actually got a ticket.

But if they go, I have to say, I have seen them. Right. Did you ever see them live? Not really in my bag. I mean, it wasn't mine. Musical theatre all the way. Yeah. I went to see Oasis in Glasgow because I was working in Glasgow.

And a friend said, come on, we're going to see. I mean, you know, I like them and they're nice enough. And I've met them. But I went there and they sort of, my friend was going, go, go. I was just going, oh, God, this is good. Right. Why? What?

The sheer umph of the thing. That's a good way of putting it. It was, do you know what? It was rock and roll. Yeah, there's quite a strong masculine energy there, isn't it? And it's also, it's very, the energy, actually, the energy. The energy on stage, as it is with you, because I've been to see you do your live show. So this is, we're going, sing along a garrath three.

We are, yeah. But we know more about you this time. Yes, I'm doing my life in song. So I'm going from the day that I was born, which was number one, was a re-release of, Space Oddity by David Bowie. I'm going all the way through, but through songs that you know and you like to sing. So we're doing the song that was on

when I was in a sandwich shop in Bournemouth in 1993. What's that one? Oh, 19993? Yeah. No, 93, 94. Okay. Oh, okay. Prime, big breakfast.

It has a really good sort of a cappella beginning. Oh, okay, nice. All right, okay. Nice. Yeah. Okay. That would be nice. That's first for listeners at home.

That is Kiss from a Rose by Seal. And we've just got lots of, you know, fun songs. We've got big, lots of musical theater. That's what I was waiting for. The musicals. We're doing a Le Mise medley in which I'm just going to be all the parts. Are you, will you do the, because we had Alfie Bow on here and we did. He can sing.

He's got some time. We did the, yeah, but we did. No, no, no, no. No, we did Valjean at last. see each other plane. Monsieur Lemaire, you'll come. Wear a different chain. I don't know if I can do that.

Before you say another word! I've got, oh. I know that. There, out in the darkness, a fugitive running. So you do that all. I'm going to do. I'm going to schmacked that to High Heaven. And what are the musical theatre?

We're doing a bit from... The Greatest Showman. Oh, I... Do you know what? Didn't love the film? Love the soundtrack. The soundtrack's great, isn't it? Love that soundtrack.

It's amped up. Are you doing a million? The one about dreams. Yes, a million dreams. And there's something else. We're also doing a medley of divas. So all the way from Dusty Springfield through to Lizzo and Beyoncé

and kind of all points in between with a Madonna. So now the words are up. The words are up. The words are up. In glorious technicolor. Yes. And photos also from my life and our life. and, you know, historical moments

that happened at the same time. And gags are plenty. Yeah, but you can see the words. And this time, I'm going to do a QR code. So you can also have it on your phone if you want to. Oh, that's a really good idea. You know, sometimes you go into a venue and there's one seat that's restricted view

or they can't see the top of the word. So I thought, I know how to stop there. So everyone has, there's no excuse. Everyone can sing long. You don't have to. It's not obligatory, but most people do. I said to my husband, right, we've got to go and see Gareth because I get to sing along. And the girls are, you know, my girls, I don't know whether they get their love for a musical theatre from.

No idea. It's so hard to figure that out. And David, you wanted me to ask you, do you do any punk and reggae? Punk and reggae is not on the list. What would I do? I'm punk. Oh, no, you could do buzzcocks. Ever fall in love with someone.

Ever falling in love with someone ever falling in love with someone ever falling in love. In love with someone, you should have fallen in love with. I know that from the fine young cannibals version. Yeah, well, there we go. Very fine. They're not as young as they once were. The fine cannibals. It's such a lovely idea.

But what you've done over the years is, and that's why you're so right for this podcast, because you have spread joy. I mean, I suppose, you know, everybody knows the choir and all the stuff that you've done on telly, But the military wives choir seemed to... It chimed. It really did.

Well, it was one of those happenstance moments where I suppose I've been, I think, like all good people working in the Mijjar, reading all the newspapers and trying to keep abreast of what was going on. So I had been aware of that moment where we were not happy as a nation about what was happening in Afghanistan and in Iraq. And yet the bodies were starting to come back. It was absolutely tragic, awful moment. And this letter came through the door. And so it immediately stood out from everything else because I was aware of what was going on in, you know,

just in popular thought. And yeah, and so it was a kind of immediate, yes. And then we had to ask the Ministry of Defence. Now, that is something that does not bring any joy into one's life. Oh, really? Well, yeah, just dealing with, you know, it's... So you can imagine. Can I know?

Lots of bureaucracy. Why did you have to ask them? Because we wanted to go to a military base and get permission to film on the, filming on a military base, you can't film that, don't film that direction. Yeah.

You know, for absolutely good reasons. Yeah. But like makes filming really, really complicated. Anyway, finally, one day the permission came through and we went off to Devon and, yeah, I took my wife and then I just had the one daughter who was about six months old. we moved down to Devon and it was I really honestly from the first day I just thought oh this is this is working

and the narrative of the choir had always been you know you can some TV producers have written down you know executive had gone gareth arise on the base struggles to get women to join you know everyone's terrible at first you can see you could sort of see how they were thinking and we arrived and everyone wanted to do it and everyone was good and they sounded really nice. And so we sort of had to rewrite the rule book, which was lovely for me, because I'd done a couple of projects like that. And suddenly it was about scale. It was like, well, how far

can we take this? And we took it all the way to perform in front of Her Majesty the Queen, which we did several times. It was amazing. And we know that, you know, I know that she watched us and admired it. You've met the Queen? Yeah, she gave me an award

for, in her that was the Diamond Jubilee year. It was 2012. for my work with the military wives. No, like a personal award, a personal gift from the Queen. Yeah, I got this, the most extraordinary, it's like a, it's called a chalice, and it's made out of crystal. It's absolutely extraordinary this thing.

It's about two feet high, and it says E2R on it. It's completely like... I've got goosebumps. Maybe I shouldn't tell you, because it's been robbed. No, how lovely. It's a beautiful thing. So me and, is it Harvey Goldsmith behind Live Aid? Harvey Goldsmith.

Garvey Goldsmith. So Harvey Goldsmith and I both got this award, and it was a person in the gift of the queen. So whereas the honours are, you might be nominated by your friend, and then that gets sort of approved at government level, and then the sovereign will sign it. But they haven't necessarily approved. They haven't come up with the idea, whereas this was actually from...

What a lovely thing! I know, I was unbelievable. I mean, the story is slightly sad because I got this call from the Royal Academy of Music where I'd studied. And they said, oh, there's an event on the 12th of May do come along. Oh, I'd love to. So I put it in my diary. Then I heard nothing. Absolutely nothing.

And about a day before, I was filming in Manchester and I looked at my diary. I thought, oh, I'm supposed to be that Royal Royal Academy thing in the... in London, I don't think I can make it. So I called up Carol from the Academy and said, I'm sorry, I can't come. It's going to be a bit awkward to get to London. She said, I really think you need to be there. I said, oh, why is that?

There's going to be, you're going to be getting something. Okay. So I didn't invite my mom. I didn't invite my dad. I didn't invite my, and what had happened was that the information had gone to our old address. And so I never, I didn't find out. You might have missed your chalice.

I could have missed the chalice entirely. It could have just not turned up, which would have been absolutely disastrous. But anyway, I arrived to discover literally the Knights of the Realm. Who was that they had like 12 dames, that Judy Dent was there, Bono was there, Derrick Jacoby was there. Is Bono a dame?

Well, no, that was a separate thought. Should be. And who else was there? I mean, it was really like, everyone except the Pope was there. And then I... For you? Well, no. All that for you?

This celebration of the Queen and the celebration of the arts and it was at the Royal Academy of Arts and I arrived there and suddenly I got this award from Her Majesty of the Queen it was unbelievable and she, it's huge this thing, quite heavy. Did she actually hand it to you? Well no, I walked up and I said, thank you so much with Majesty and did a sort of clumsy bow

and then she said I think we'll just leave it there on the pedestal I said, yeah, I'll collect it later in a taxi, and we had a little laugh about that. And that was... And then I stood in a little circle with me, Her Majesty of Queen, Bono, and Derek Jacoby. There's a party I'd like to go to. It was bonkers. Anyway, there we are.

Oh, how wonderful. It was amazing, yeah. So all of that time, you know, the young... I mean, you did three different... You did three different courses after school, didn't you? You went to three different universities. Yeah, I did a drama degree. And then I decided actually probably I wanted to do music.

So then I started studying myself, which was much better because I was paying for the lessons out of my own money. And I was kind of really interested in it in a way that when you're, you know, when you're at school, it's sometimes a bit of a chore. This was suddenly really volitional. And then what did I do? Did I do three courses? Didn't you go to... I went to the Royal Academy. Yeah, then I went to the Royal Academy.

No, I did two. Two, right? I lost track. Yes, you're right, two. Yeah, and then I... Yeah, I'd so studied singing at the Royal Academy. What was the question? Was it Mary Hammond?

It wasn't, no, that's the music theatre side. I was on the Vosaurus classical side, and we did lots of... We used to... There's a building to the left, if you look at the Royal Academy, called York Gate, which is where all the music theatre types hung out and sang. And we used to have German leader class, which is very serious with a man called Ian Partridge. We used to have that on a Thursday morning. And somebody would be singing a song about, you know, like somebody dying in a brook

or something really kind of, you know, Victorian and romantic. And there'd be the music theatre singers next door going, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! Like that. Fabulous. It was a wonderful clash of cultures. I was actually there at the same. time as Ian, H from Steps.

Yes, like you always say that. I love that. My claim to fame is that me and there are other claims to fame, but me and H did drama together. Have you ever studied, have studied, have you ever performed a step song in your sing-along-a-gall? No, but that's a good idea. You've got to. Yes.

Five, six, seven, eight. Tragedy. No, you're hoot and scooting, baby, driving in a cruising. I bow to your superior. I can only think of S Club songs now. Is that a harrison? And don't stop, never get up. I like S Club.

I love the variety of stuff that you cover as well. And you're passionate about spreading the joy of music. And it's when we've chatted before, that's the thing that a lot of people, I find it really sad. I'm very lucky. I mean, I couldn't read music. I went to my grade one piano exam and I did it and they went, that's great. Can you do some sight reading? I went, no, I can't read it.

And they said, what? I said, I can't read it. I said, well, you play it, and I'll copy you. So they played it and I copied. And they said, we can't pass you. But, well done. But I'm very lucky because I've trained as a singer and I've done Western shows and things.

And I love singing. And when I talk about singing to people, they always look at me and say, oh, I can't sing. That's annoying. Anyone can sing. And also, it's because somebody has said to them, oh, don't know, you can't sing.

It's a not annoying. to me that they say that. It's annoying that somebody has made them feel like that at some point. Because the joy it brings. It does. It endorphins and all this way. But everybody sings at some stage, don't they? Even if they say they'll sing on their own in the shower or something. But some toddlers are not great at singing. But at that point you have the potential to learn. You know, when you have a class of 30 kids, there's going to be one or two that can't sing. But it is possible to get everyone to some level of singing. But, you know, but it is possible to get everyone to some level of singing. But if you don't tell that toddler that they can't sing, that's the thing, isn't it?

No, that's definitely not good. But if you don't do it at that age, then you've kind of, you know, the brain doesn't make those easy connections, I think. You need to get in young. You need to be singing twinkle, twinkle, little star every single night like I do. Still? Yeah, yeah, I sing every night to my youngest who's nearly six. Twinkle, twinkle. Yes, because it's so good.

good. That and happy birthday. It's so good for intervals. Do do, do do do do do do. It's just very good for kind of getting the ear in. Okay. Can we sing twinkle twinkle now then, please together. Are you having the key? Yeah. Twinkle. I can't actually sing Twinkle Twinkle Little Star with you. That's pretty weird. Musical theatre, fine. But Twinkle twinkle twinkle because it's suddenly, when you said, they break it down.

Yeah. Twinkle, twinkle little. going to do it now. I'm embarrassed. I can't believe that I've... That's really weird. That's not... That's the opposite. A female, dear, happy.

There you go. Well, you're fine, aren't you? There's no problem with your singing voice. The thing about singing is, I mean, through the shows that you've done, you've, everybody sort of thought, oh, I could do it. I think a lot of people... Then there's so many choirs that, but what you've done is created the rock choirs, created all the different choirs that have sprung up.

And in lockdown, you do. did the choir as well. And that was bringing everybody together. And that's the thing I'm passionate about is a lot of people are on their own. And choirs bring them together. It's clinically proven to give you a better feeling of community and, you know, serotonin and all of those things that make you feel nice. It's, I don't, I can't think of any other activity because we can't all get out and play football.

But most people can hobble along to a choir. You know, my friend who's just lost her mother, you know, one of the great joys of the last year of her life where she was very ill with dementia, she was still able to go and join a choir for people with dementia. And that's amazing because there are so many other activities that were taken away from people. But music is kind of the last thing.

Why is that? Why is it that? It's such a deep brain activity. I feel like, I mean, I'm not a scientist, but the, it's so absorbing. It uses so many parts of the brain, motor skills, and it's using, it's using all the deep stuff as well because you're having to coordinate your breath, and breath is so basic to life. And, you know, your emotions are just sort of hardwired into those songs. So I think it just goes beyond language. It goes beyond, it goes beyond the conscious mind.

I think it's deep singing. and we, well, when you've learned a song when you're eight years old, you never forget it, do you? I can still sing all those hymns and things from... But isn't that incredible? So my younger daughter knows songs that I grew up with because they play them on the radio, and she knows every single word,

and she looks at me, how do I know every single word? I said, you will. And then you'll start not remembering every single word, but you will always remember every single word of the ones that you're singing now when you're 80. Yeah, it's an amazing thing that, isn't it? And it's sort of sad when you lose that ability to take on the new material

because obviously I have to learn loads of stuff. I do think it's a very good thing about being a musician, at whatever level, of keeping the brain going. Oh, good, we've got to keep our brains. It's so important, isn't it? I mean, I'm going to be 50 this year. And I feel like... That's a good song to sing, you just told me, yeah.

I love that song. Yeah, and I think I still want to learn new instruments and keep. So what do you play? What instruments do you play? Well, I currently play. Yeah, piano was my first instrument. And the conducting, yeah.

Well, yes, that's kind of an instrument. But it's not my specialism. I played piano. I sing. I play guitar. I play bass. I really like, bass is kind of my favorite thing to play. It's really fun because you're sort of in charge of,

you're promoting the rhythm. You're locked in with the drama. I have a great drummer, Lauren Kosti, on stage with me. And she's just great fun. And that, that's, feeling of being locked in together is really, it's hard to describe. Just a great teamwork.

Lovely. And when you get something right and you do a hit together, you know, just get everything lined up and it just kind of happens. That's very satisfying. So I love playing bass. I play electric, play acoustic. But I'm, I've watched my kids play string instruments and I'm really, so I'm toying with taking up viola.

Oh, no wind instruments. I played recorder at school. but I wasn't really into it. And then I think it was the... I found the spit quite off-putting. It doesn't go with the image? It's just a bit gross, isn't it? But what about saxophone?

Because I can see... I know, but I love a saxophone. I wanted to learn the saxophone, and my mother said, you can't... You've been doing piano for 10 years, you still can't read music. And I said, I know,

but I love drums and I love saxophone. Probably have held, because then you're reading a single line, it's probably easier in some ways. You don't have to do too hard. Channel is really difficult. Like, reading the... I like to play piano, just don't want to read it.

No. But the saxophone would be good. I love the sound of saxophone. The piece that I always wanted to play on the sax is, do you know the film, Remancing the Stone? Yes. There's a great bit of... Michael Douglas.

Do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do do. I forget who wrote the piece, but it's a really, it's really iconic 80s thing. As Michael Douglas and Catherine Turner get onto the boat and it goes down on like Broadway, I think, and it just goes off into the distance. Really, really long shot. And is it on a sax?

It's a saxophone piece. Okay. Well, you have to learn the saxophone. Do that and sing along a garret four. It's not really a sing-along piece, but... No, but you can't know. But you walk on. No, you get pushed on on a boat.

Yeah. Doing that. Wow. Yeah. I mean, that's definitely the budget. You've just doubled the budget. But also, you should do an 80s one because everyone loves 80s movies.

I've got a lot of 80s in that. Yeah. I've got a lot of 80s. I'm looking forward to like a prayer. this time because we have a local choir, we have a music theatre choir in every venue. That's so lovely. They're a lot of fun and we're doing

Life is a mystery, which is good. I'm not singing. No. Yeah, I'm looking forward to that. You're not singing. Not singing that one. Oh, okay. But you sing.

Yeah, so I sing. I mean, there's not masses of conducting because it's the audience just looking at the lyrics and singing along and I do a bit, a bit of organising. But mostly I'm playing. I've got two singers with me. One of whom was in the swing.

There's an Acapella group. She's in that for 10 years. Very good at Harmony. She's an incredible performer. And I've also got Laurel, who's also an incredible performer. And she's on stage singing, playing the guitar, playing the bass. We kind of swap with each other. It's great. It's really fun. How do people get tickets, though? Please. Do they go and find you? Garethmalone.com. Of course. All your tickets needs. Yeah. I'm everywhere except for Scotland this time. But before you write in. We were in Scotland last year. We'll be there next year. So will that be Sing Along a Gareth fall? Yeah. I don't know what I'll do that.

Let me just get through this one. No, just do... Do 80 movies. Do movies. I've been thinking about this. Like a themed Gareth Malone. Like Sing Along a Gareth, The Movie. Sing Along a Gareth music theatre.

Do you think that's a good idea? Musical theatre, yes, yes. Well, there's a healthy dollop of music theatre this time. But I'm also doing Wonderwall. Just for the... I love that. Just because mostly for my wife because she couldn't get tickets. It's the only way.

It's the closest she's going to get. But it's actually, it's the cross-section. That's why it works. That's why it's great. Now, please can we end with a warm-up? You did this on radio too. And the amount of people that day... They did.

No, that day came up to me and did it to me. Bob's got heard like a ping-pong ball. They came up to me and they said, what have you and Gareth done to me? I haven't stopped singing it, so we have to do it. Actually, I got a love... lot of people texting me. And when you've been on screen as much as you or I have, people

stop, don't they? They don't go, oh, I saw you, they're telling you. They have a nata or yeah. Yeah, but you and they might, but that one really chimed. Bob's got a head like a ping pong. That's the words, isn't it? It's the William Tell Overture. So it's Bob. So, okay, listening and watching, but it's Bob's got a head like a ping pong ball. What I would like is also Joe, Joe, would you like to come in and join us, please? Joe, come on. Joe works on this show. I've seen anything so reluctant. Joe is...

Oh, here comes. Mr. Radio. Mr. Podcast. Oh, both of them. Oh, both of you. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Guy on the street. You should see. They're looking at us, aren't they? They're thinking, what are they making us do? So, Joe is a legend. I'm trying to think of it. Let me think of another one. Everyone.

Well, they'll do two. They don't know that we're planning this because they can't hear it. Right, we're going to do two. Come on. Come on. Come and sit down. Welcome to the podcast. Welcome.

You get referenced all the time. So come on. You're going to sit next to Gowan. Come on. Nozzal in. Right. It's just to prove. Come on.

Come on. This is going on YouTube on the podcast. So we've got Joe Hatter, who is a living legend in radio, isn't he? I mean, you. It's working with him. Must be quite a song. So he's a living legend. He's worked across all radio.

Everyone in the industry knows him. Everyone out of the industry knows him. He has his own podcast about books. He's now going to set. On his own, Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball and you've got something else lined up as a surprise. He hasn't shaved either. No.

Okay, so are we all going to do Bob? About 12 years. And then you'll teach us another one. Yes, I'm trying to think. Mine's gone blank. It'll come to me. Okay, we do Bob. So just talk us through it.

So it's Bob's got ahead like a ping pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping pong ball. Should we warm up? So we should say, let's say, Papa, papapapapa. Papa-papa. Babba-bba-ba-ba-ba-ba. Da-da-da-da.

D-da-da-da-da-gag-gag-gag-gag-gag-a. I say bud-degga. Badda-dig-bid-a. Bidigga-bidigga. Bidigga. And I say, Bidigga-pitt-pitt-pitt-Bidig-Bid-a-P-T-Bid-Begat-Bch. So, just unvoiced.

P-T-K. Burtigga-Ptch. Bidig-T-Bugta-P-T. Bidigda-Bugta-P-T. Expert. There we are. I just warm up the, Thank you.

plosives and the brictives lovely. Get the mouth really working. He's really blushing, isn't he? We have a little shake of the jaw. I hope you're doing this at home. I like that one that they do on the Queen's speech. Do you remember that from?

And he goes, it's her old, right, right, right, right, God, we're getting rid of this TMJ. Yeah. Okay. Now, so now we should be nice and ready to go. Bob's got a... Gob's got a bed? No. Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball.

Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball. Like a ping-pong, ping-pong, ping-pong, ping-pong. Like a ping-pong, ping-pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping-pong ball. Bob's got a head like a ping pong ball.

Like a ping pong ball. I mean, it's my theme tune now. Gareth, you are good for the soul. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.