That Gaby Roslin Podcast: Reasons To Be Joyful - Keith Lemon

Episode Date: October 26, 2020

This episode is full of giggles as Gaby chats to her hilarious friend Keith Lemon. Discussing everything from their favourite films, dressing up for Halloween, his ambitions to host a fashion programm...e, his proud dad-bod, social media trolls and not keeping your BAFTA in the loo! Hear how his attraction to Davina McCall led to her securing him his first agent. He gives us a fascinating insight into the start of his career when he worked in the same office as Sacha Baron Cohen, Simon Pegg, David Walliams and many more huge names! Plus, his work on the new ITV2 series of ‘Celebrity Juice’ with Emily Atack and Laura Whitmore, his YouTube channel ‘Keith Lemon’s Doing’s’ and ‘The Fantastical Factory of Curious Craft’ on Channel 4 and All 4.  Produced by Cameo Productions, music by Beth Macari.  Join the conversation on Instagram and Twitter @gabyroslin #thatgabyroslinpodcast Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Starting point is 00:00:02 Hello and welcome to That Gabby Roslyn podcast with me, That Gabby Roslyn. In this episode, I'm joined by my hilarious friend, Keith Lemon. I adore him. We chat about everything from his favourite films, scary movies, and what he's dressing up as for Halloween. Plus, his brand new series of Celebrity Juice with new team captains, Emily Atack and Laura Whitmore, who will also be on this podcast in a few weeks.
Starting point is 00:00:28 His YouTube channel called Keith Lemmon's Doings and The Fantasticical Factory of Curious Craft on Channel 4 and All 4. Plus, he gives us a fascinating insight into the start of his career when he worked in the same office as Sasha Baron Cohen, Simon Pegg, David Walliams and so many more huge names. So I just suddenly sat down to record this with you and I started singing a song from fame and you're another person who loves 80s films.
Starting point is 00:01:10 Was it high fidelity, high, High fidelity. No, it wasn't. See if you can guess which one it was. Well, it can't have been fam because I'd guessed straight away. Well, now, I've got, oh, is it fair? No, no. What's another fame song?
Starting point is 00:01:23 Okay, shall I do it? Go on. We sing the body. Oh, Jesus. Do you not remember that one? Sing it again? No. I was sitting here singing the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:01:39 I don't know why. I was thinking of you and I thought of 80s films instantly. Sing it again? Go away. When I speak to you on the phone, when you're Lee, you've got your hair up and your bandage off, and when you're Keith,
Starting point is 00:01:55 you got your hair down and your bandage on. Do you know what I've got today? I've got plaits, because that's my new thing. I've got platt. Platt panther. Your hair is longer than long hair. Is it too long, do you think?
Starting point is 00:02:11 No, I like it. I love it. It's so curly. It's like about an inch or past my nipples. That's okay. That covers them beautiful. I normally get cut to my nipples. What are you wearing?
Starting point is 00:02:22 I've got a shirt that has the print of the carpet from the shining. Because today I'm filming some Halloween stuff at home from my YouTube channel, which is called Keith Fleming's doings. So it's going to be Keith Lemmon's Halloween doings. So the run up to Halloween every day, the week run up, I'm going to do a post, which is Halloween. Halloween-based. So I just thought, oh, this is the perfect shirt to film a YouTube thing. Shining, which is also the character I will be dressing us on the Halloween Celebrity Juice next week.
Starting point is 00:02:55 But you might think, that's not much of a costume. You just wears a burgundy corduroy jacket and jeans and a checked shirt. That's exactly what I thought. So I said, can I get prosthetic makeup? So I look exactly like Jack Nicholson. People, minds will be blown and I'll go, where's Keith? and then I'll just say, there is only Jack now. You've got to do that. I said, well, it'd be great if I'm smashing out of my dressing room, get at the beginning of the show with an axe,
Starting point is 00:03:21 and then I just go, come find my key, and then just walk on set. Red rum. Yeah? Red rum. It's a terrifying film, isn't it? Yeah, do you know, actually, really weirdly, last night we were talking to our younger daughter,
Starting point is 00:03:32 and she was saying, because she's really sad about Halloween. I think lots of kids are, because it's the one night she can just gorge on sweets, and they love them. dressing up her and her friends. They absolutely love it. She says she prefers it to Christmas, which I think is quite sweet. But she's really sad about it. And then I said, well, I've shown you, you can, well, we can call Keith on Halloween night. He'll frighten you if you want. We could do that. Well, yeah, I'm going to be dressed as a demigorgon, sat at my kitchen table,
Starting point is 00:04:01 at sat at my kitchen table dressed as a demigorgon. Well, you see, that's when she loves stranger things. Then she said that her friends are going to do a Netflix party where they all start watching in the film at the same time wherever they are and they watch it together. But they couldn't decide what film was scary enough. But then I started saying, I laugh at scary films. Well, I do when I'm with people, because I laugh that I'm scared. And I go, oh, I'm kicking me pants. It's a bit depressing, I think, watching horror films by yourself.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Because you want to enjoy being scared, don't you? There's some I don't like. I don't like the psychological ones. I don't like the ones that get into your head. What's the most terrifying film you've ever seen? Well, you see, here's a thing. thing. I was telling her that I laugh at Psycho, I laugh at Poultergeist, I laugh at, what's the one where the head spinning, what's the one? Exorcist.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Exorcist. Makes me laugh because everybody has taken the piss in every show for so many years of all of those films that I just can't help but laugh. But I don't like things like dead calm. That's Nicole Kidman, in it? And Sam Neal. Yes. What about the hand that rocks the cradle? Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. It's not scary, but the best vampire film ever made is The Lost Boys.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Oh, I know that, but that's your favourite film of all time, isn't it? Is that number one over Teen Wolf? Oh, and Back to the Future. And Back to the Future is the most perfectly made film I've ever seen. Oh, it is. You're right, though. It never ages. It's a classic in the same respect of It's a Wonderful Life. Wow, would you put it there? 100%, yeah, it's perfectly made.
Starting point is 00:05:36 I'm not talking about Backs at Future 2 or 3, but Back to Future 1, that it's in a future. simply called Backs at Future, not Backs at Future One, because that would have told us a lot more than we need to know at the beginning, back to the future. Oh, there's going to be a two and three. What's going to happen there? He's going to go into the future. He's going to the past, where's going to go?
Starting point is 00:05:50 Back to the Future, it's simply called Back to the Future is the most perfectly made film. Can you imagine if Superman had been called Superman One as well? I was for that when I was a kid, like, because there was Superman One, two and three and four. Four was ridiculous quest for peace. But anyway, Superman One, imagine if it was just called Superman One. How excited would that be spoiling things for you as a kid? Or would you go?
Starting point is 00:06:10 wow, there's going to be some other supermans. I can't wait to see Christopher Reeve flying around with a black line around him because the special effects out of that, but I'm really falling for it. And I did say on the poster, you won't believe a man can fly. And I am believing it. And as I'm running out of the cinema now, I've got my coat around my neck and I've got my hands in the end.
Starting point is 00:06:25 And I'm believing I can fly. I've got the exact same rush as when I saw Rocky. And I came out, I go, oh, I'm doing boxing in the air. You see, I have to say, I'm going to put in a film that I just know you won't put in there. But I'm going to put in my number one favorite film of all time when Harry met Sally. Again, another perfectly made film.
Starting point is 00:06:41 It's incredible. It's probably one of the first films I saw where I thought, oh, I'm getting older, I'm enjoying these sort of films. When I was a kid, when I watched it as a teenager, I guess. I thought, yeah, I can sit and concentrate and watch more mature films now, and it's brilliantly written. Billy Crystal is amazing. Meg Ryan is amazing.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So funny. Remember when she went on parking, it went all wrong, but she used to be really funny and really attractive as well. and I love a big bonsy hair as well. Oh, she was perfect. But I was very lucky that Billy Crystal came on the Big Breakfast, and I did that scene with him live on Breakfast Telly. I think I might remember, you know,
Starting point is 00:07:21 because I've got on DHS, your last day on Big Breakfast. Does make me laugh. And it just says Gabby's last day. Isn't it weird that I recorded that? It is, and that we're friends now. Because it's not like recording a movie, is it? It's not like recording, yeah, we record a movie off telly. But recording someone's last day on their telly show.
Starting point is 00:07:44 That's what sort of kid I was, I guess. No, but you know what? You know I absolutely adore Jill, your wife. I think she's... Oh, you mean Derriss? She's a goddess. Your wife is Derek now, is she? Yeah, to keep me anonymity.
Starting point is 00:07:55 I call my wife Derek. I call me kids Bob and Jeff, but that's not the names. Okay. I love Derek. Oh, Derek's lovely, isn't he? But you, you know, the wonderful thing about you is You don't ever say sorry for having joy. And that's why the two of us, driving in the car,
Starting point is 00:08:13 we drove out to do something for Oxfam. But we just loved. And I came back and I said to my husband, what shall I call him? Gladys. So I said to my husband Gladys, I have just had the most joyful day because I've just met somebody who is equally joyful about life.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Isn't it weird that we didn't know each other? We went for a long drive. I know. Didn't really know each other, but let's go for a long drive to Oxfam. Which you would do if you were on telly, wouldn't you, because it's part of your job. And there'd be a camera there, so you'd play up a little bit to the camera, and you'd have your television etiquette on. And I didn't really know Gabby Roslin then, and I just got in a cat with you.
Starting point is 00:08:56 You could have been a murderer and killed me. Put a bag on me, and put me in a ditch. I said that to Derek, when I turned up at your house, I said, this is the weirdest thing. I'm about to drive on with your husband. He might be a mass murderer. She thought I'm sitting mad, but that's fine. But that's how I met you properly was through your wife.
Starting point is 00:09:15 Because I was talking to Derek. You stalked her? I was talking to her at an event. She's lovely. You two have been together for a long time. Yeah, yeah. But I remember meeting you at something of Davina McCauze when she used to do the charity thing for For Focus.
Starting point is 00:09:33 Yes. for drug rehabilitation. And I said, oh, look, Gabby Rosen's there. I think I just went, hello, and just walked off. But she isn't Davina the person that got you into television in the very first place? I read that. I read that she did that.
Starting point is 00:09:48 But what happened was, I was doing a sketch, my first sketch where I was getting paid for it on telly, because I did a lot of stuff for free when I was younger. And we used to have, in the office, we used to have MTV on, and we all fancied DeVina. and I said, well, let's write Deviner into this sketch so we can meet her. And luckily for us, she said, yes. So we'd filmed all day.
Starting point is 00:10:12 And then she said, have you got an agent? No. Because I'm like, what do I need an agent for? She said, here's the number of my agent. I went, oh, cool, thanks. And she said, are you going to phone him? I'm like, no. Do you want me to phone him?
Starting point is 00:10:24 And then she phoned him. And then I got an agent and I started working in tele properly, I guess. That's the discovery. Because I remember she said, I've read that she, discovered me on the stand-up circuit. But that's not true, because I've only done stand-up twice, because I'm not a stand-up comedian. But I did stand-up at Spittelfield's art market.
Starting point is 00:10:44 And it was basically like Bo Sleptor live. And that went well, and I got paid £90 and spent it straight away at the bar. And then the next time I did stand-up, who was it, the O-2? What, you went from Spittelfield to the O-2? Yeah, because I was supposed to introduce Jonathan Ross on stage for stand-up to cancer, I think it was. And I said, yeah, I'll do that.
Starting point is 00:11:07 It's one of my heroes, which he doesn't like me saying, because I was saying nice things about Jonathan and he'll just use expletives at me. And so I thought, I can welcome Jonathan Ross on stage. And then when I got there, my name was up on the thing,
Starting point is 00:11:21 and there's that little piece about me in the programme. I said to Jonathan, I went, why's my name up there? I'm just introducing you? It went, you can talk. Just get on stage and just say some stuff. I went, well, I do that have a set because I'm not a stand-up comedian.
Starting point is 00:11:32 just make some stuff up, but I don't care. And I can remember walking up at the O2, and about two weeks previously, I'd just seen the spy skills there. And I swore, it'll come to me, it'll come to me, no material whatsoever, it'll come, it'll come, and then luckily it came, and I just spoke about the spy girls
Starting point is 00:11:50 and seeing the spice girls there. And then I talked about my friend who's got a job at NASA, and they're doing an experiment about breasts at the moment, which is most common, the left or the right one to be the biggest on a lady, because the lady's always got one bigger than the other apparently. But it's funny, because I've just started Celebrity Juice
Starting point is 00:12:08 with Emily A. Tack and Laura Whitmore, and we did a promo for it the other day. Do you know what we were talking about? I've matured and I think about people more than I used to because I just used to think about getting a laugh, I guess. Or I'm quite frivolous and carefree. And I get into trouble for saying, oh, I don't care. And my mum, I was going,
Starting point is 00:12:28 stop saying you don't care. And I says, Mum, it's my defence mechanism. It's how I cope with things. And I tell you what, that's just remind me. Someone said to me, Keith, how are you coping with lockdown? And I said, I'm revelling in the simple things in life, such as a remote control that doesn't have a wire coming from it into the telly like I used to have when I lived at home.
Starting point is 00:12:49 Not weird. Just looking at things and going, look, I own a tree. Got a tree in my garden. Got a wicked tree in my garden. I want to put Christmas lights on it, but it's too big, apparently. And they get very tall ladders. Did you not watch that on Blue Peter? They used to show us on Blue Pizza.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Did you do Plu, Peter? No, that's what I wanted to do when I was very little, but I got very upset because I thought, I'm allergic to cats, because would they get rid of the cat to have me as a presenter? I am. Oh, are you as well? Yeah, get itchy and sneezing.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I'm a natural redhead. I know you are. That's a secret. Not many people know, until you look at your arms. My freckily arms. Because you know what, as well, Emily Atack has got the same arms as me. She went, look, we're armed twins. Oh, was she another freckily one?
Starting point is 00:13:29 She's got a bazillion freckles. Oh, she's covered in freckles. but she hides them. You I loved her. I knew I loved her. I've known her mummy for years. It's so weird that... I don't know mum that well, but she's lovely.
Starting point is 00:13:41 Oh, she really, really is. And her uncle is one of the funniest... Ted? Yeah, Ted Robbins used to do the warm-up for me on a Saturday night show I did called Whatever You Want. Did you do a show call whatever you want? Whatever you want. Because I did a show called Whatever I want.
Starting point is 00:13:58 Did you? On LWT years ago. And I used to challenge. people to do whatever I want. And whilst they were doing that, I would do what they would normally be doing at that time. Like what? Like Claudia Wincomen who wasn't as famous back then,
Starting point is 00:14:15 but I knew her, so she would often help me and stuff. I would challenge, I challenged Claudia Wincomen to be a butling's red coat. And while she's doing that, I would babysit because she was babysitting for someone. Oh my God. That's great. Why do it now?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Tell you what I'd like to do. I'd like, just talking about Blue Peter, I'd love to do like an edgy blue Peter, call it Ginger Pete. I don't know. Well, that's what your YouTube is like. And actually, I think the fantastical factory of Fab Curious Craft, is that right?
Starting point is 00:14:47 The show with the longest title ever that's too long. I said that on the day to him, I said, I went, hello and welcome to the fantastic, what's the program called again? I said, the title's too long. I just call it Craft Factory. they originally were going to call it craftwork, which is a miles better title as well.
Starting point is 00:15:04 And I had a meeting of a week because I don't know if it's coming back. Oh no, it's got to. But they've done a focus group thing. And I think they'll definitely be changing the name because they said, oh, in the focus group, it said the name's too long. The only can remember what it's called.
Starting point is 00:15:18 I said, I told you. Yeah, but you're doing, well, I hope you do more. I really hope you do more of that because I actually was a bit like Blue Peter, fully enough. I know it was grown-up version. I loved it. But what you're doing, you're working with creating craft as well, aren't you? Yeah, well, I guess that's come from the YouTube doings, Keith Lemon's doings,
Starting point is 00:15:36 because my agent said do a YouTube channel. I said no for years. Because I just thought, I was honest, I thought that's what kids do, don't do, in it for kids. And, you know, I watch YouTube, I watch reviews, and I watch how to fix things. And lockdown happens, so there was no work. Apart from, I did lockdown juice, we did three episodes at the end of the series. And then they had nothing to do. So I just thought, oh, well, I'll do a YouTube channel then now.
Starting point is 00:16:02 And so I'll just do anything I want, really. I might open a box, I might review something, I might draw something, might make something, might do a silly sketch. And that's how that came about. So then creating craft, I think, must have seen it, and said, do you want to do some makes for us? Now, I said, yeah, I said, but I'm not really a crafter. I don't know what I am.
Starting point is 00:16:25 I just make things. Well, you are? Yes, you are. Oh, they're brilliant. They make like greeting cards and stuff and flower pressing and block printing and stuff. And I said I'll have a go at that. I think the first one was me doing sculpting with Claire,
Starting point is 00:16:41 which I'd never done before. And I made a baby Yoda for my offspring. Who wanted that? Jeff wanted that. So I did that for Jeff. Are we allowed to talk about that room? Or is that still as, I mean, because everybody sees it now.
Starting point is 00:16:54 In your house, I mean, that area of what you've collected and what you've made. Yeah, I have a room of shame. I don't show it on telly or anything, but I do have a room of shame. Yeah, a lot of people have one, but it just depends on the extent of their shame because Gino Di Campo, he collects toys.
Starting point is 00:17:12 Someone who has more shame than me is Jonathan Ross. He's got a building of shame. His office is filled with stuff. I don't know if they've been to his office. He collects a lot of Japanese toys and toys from the 70s and furniture from the 70s. He's got a lot of Migo toys. They're called Meego toys.
Starting point is 00:17:27 which when I was a kid it was like eight inch figures of Superman and and Spider-Man and stuff and I collected them and Jonathan's got a lot of those I've got a few but not as many as in and these are all boxed up as well and all in lovely condition and I guess that's where me and Jonathan connected via toys yeah like middle-aged men talking about eight-inch figures which is weird in it it's just a bit but again I'm at an age where I don't care I don't care when I was making me And costume, I went straight up to camera afterwards and went, I do have a social life, you know. But you, that's what I said about looking for the joy and things, and that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:18:09 But also the clothes, the clothes are your big thing and the stuff that you make and those jackets that you've painted. Wow. I bought another jacket, a biker jacket, which I didn't need, but they're all different because I paint them. And then I think, I just need one that's not painted. But yeah, I love clothes. I'd love to do a fashion program. I've been talking about doing a fashion program. And I said it should be called, what are you wearing?
Starting point is 00:18:30 Because people often ask me, in these different tones, go, what are you wearing? Well, I'm wearing this. And then sometimes they'll go, give to that party, yeah? What are you wearing? So that's a good title for a program about clothes. And I'd like to sort of indulge in the history of the leather jacket. Some men don't own a leather jacket. Or they might be buying their first leather jacket.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So I'd like to tell them, because I think I have the knowledge, what leather jacket they should be buying at their age and how much they should be paying for it as well and the history of the suit, the history of the brogue, stuff like that. Of course, I'd have to do it with a lady. Well, why don't you do that? I just do it. I phoned Maya Jammer up and said,
Starting point is 00:19:15 you like clobber, don't you? You don't do a fashion programme, but we won't call it fashion simply because people go, who's too niche, even though we all wear clothes. We don't sleep at night because we're just thinking of ideas. I mean, we were saying that. It's like, I can't ever switch off my head. It's a curse.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Yeah, well, it's a nice curse. Yeah, I said my agent about two treatments a week, always. I've got an idea. And some of them land, and I've been on tell you, and some of them just float off. It's a lovely job, in it? I don't understand people who think they're super rad because they're working TV
Starting point is 00:19:46 and think they're better than people, and they're rude to other people. I don't get that at all. The best thing is enjoying your job, no matter what your job is. and yeah, I feel very lucky that I came to that London and it happened because I remember when I lived in Leeds and I said to my mates, I'm going to go to London,
Starting point is 00:20:03 I'm going to work in telly and they all laughed. They're keeping it's going to be on telly. And luckily, Touchwood, I've had a pretty good career. I'm still here. I might not be after this, but I'll keep trying. But yeah, I just love it. It's such a fun job in it. Actually, it's very interesting what you just said
Starting point is 00:20:20 because the late great Sir Terry Wogan and always used to say, you know, if I got, I worked with him for 11 years. And I remember there was one, something that happened. And I was, I went, oh, God, we should have done this. We should have done this. And he looked at me. And he just went, Gabby, it's not brain surgery. It's only television.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yeah. And I went, I know, but I love it so much. She goes, I get that. I get that you love it. And we are very, very blessed to do what we absolutely love. But it's just so that we're not any, we're not special because we're, do it. We're special because we're lucky enough to be living our dreams and enjoy the job. That's what makes you special. I guess that he love your job. My friend in Leeds who is also,
Starting point is 00:21:05 I won't say his name, he's got a simple job, but he works with lovely people. So that makes him enjoy his job. He loves his job as much as I love mine. You know, it's exciting getting up on a Monday, isn't it, I guess? On a Monday morning, I never go, I've got to go to work. I can't wait to get to work. Me too. And also you've made movies. Hold on just TV. you've had your own, you've had your eponymous movie. Yeah, that was incredible because it was in development for three years. And I felt like it was being overdeveloped because they kept talking about Jeopardy and Jeopardy. And I said it's got, funny is most important.
Starting point is 00:21:38 But it did really well, but got panted to bits, which made me think, I probably won't make another film that I am. Did you say, but you are? You are writing one at the minute, yeah. Oh, my God. And I've just done another came. I like doing cameos, actually, because you're only there for a day. day or two. And because when you're doing your own film, you sit in a tent or a caravan for hours
Starting point is 00:22:00 on end and then you do one minutes filming, it feels like, where you know it's like in telly. It's quite fast and you can do quite a lot of telly. But films take ages. I don't know why. Still don't know why. But I did a morning, actually. It was a morning on Rocket Man. Dexter Fletcher got me. I know Dexter Fletcher because he was in the sitcom I did called A Bears Tale. he played the writer under the stairs so I became friends with him and he asked me if I wanted to do a little cameo in Rocket Man
Starting point is 00:22:29 which I had a full scene which got cut down into one line but I didn't care I said Dexter can you just give me that one line in every film you do and he said yeah so what's next then I've just done a little cameo
Starting point is 00:22:45 in the new remake of Oliver Twist as well it's set in contemporary times and it's about, what's it called where they jump all over the place? Park or? Yeah. Yeah, where they jump everywhere. So Oliver Twist is one of those dudes. And I'm the role of Mr Bumble.
Starting point is 00:23:02 That's how old I know. Are you? But Mr Bumble, has not got as bigger role as Harry Seekum did back in the day. And he's a traffic warden. And that's me. And I read the script, fat traffic warden. And I thought, oh, God. I still get into my size of 34 jeans, though.
Starting point is 00:23:17 That's what I wear. When did I become fat? I know, I'm not fat But I do have dad body Which I'm very proud of It's just if you tipple over You can go Oh, I'm not dad buddy now
Starting point is 00:23:30 Now I'm carrying timber I've got a lovely dad body I like this You know what When you were there Having dreams in Leeds Of being on telly Going to that London
Starting point is 00:23:40 Did you ever think You'd be casted Fat Traffic Warden Fat Traffic Warden But they put a very big jacket on me So it looks like I'm fuller it was again it was no pressure i was just there for two days and um it was with raff law jude law son
Starting point is 00:24:00 very nice guy um just like his dad insane looks like him and sounds like him and i think he's going to be massive um yeah i'll hope it's i've seen the trailer for it looks great it's got rita ora in it it's got uh michael kane in it oh yes it's coming out david williams is in it It would have been in the cinema, but COVID mashed everything up. So I think it's just coming out.
Starting point is 00:24:23 Well, not just coming out. It's coming out on Sky, because it's a Sky movie, but it would have been at the cinema, but not now. Yeah. Have you seen anything? Have you gone to the cinema? Have you done any? Did you go and see Tenet? No.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You'd love that film. Isn't it really complicated? It really is, but it's like a fairground ride. When you leave, you think, I want to go again. Did you see Inception? Yes, love that. I tried three times. And then I went, no, not bothered.
Starting point is 00:24:49 No. I like Leonardo DiCaprio, though. Once upon a time in Hollywood was Ace, because a lot of people didn't like that. But, I mean, I think it was Mar-Mite, won it. I thought it was Ace. I didn't like it. You didn't like it?
Starting point is 00:25:00 No. Oh, they were acting their pants off in a good way, because normally I don't like it when people are acting too much. It's not, oh, just stop acting. And but they were so acting, it was Ace. And I wanted to be Brad Pitt, and as soon as I came out, I googled Wrangler denim jacket with Zip, because he had a denim jacket on
Starting point is 00:25:20 with a zip up the front and I thought oh I want that jacket and now I've got it I'd go to cinema at odd times of the day I went at um it might be half ten when I went to see
Starting point is 00:25:29 once upon a time in Hollywood on a yeah probably that Tuesday and it was filled and someone had to go at me for saying this it were filled with a sea of grey hair it was all grey and then at the back was a little bit of ginger and that was me
Starting point is 00:25:44 and um I came out of the cinema and said I don't know if it's sort of pensioners, half price or something. But I've never been to the cinema and it's filled with such a mature audience. And someone had a go to me and I went, well, I would have said the same if it was filled with 16 year olds. I thought I was in the Twilight Zone or something. Why did they have a go at you?
Starting point is 00:26:06 Because people like to have a go, don't they, on social networks? Well, mostly Twitter, I guess. I went out for a drink before lockdown happened with my old agent, actually. And I got painted like I was Peter Sutcliffe or something because I had a drink with my old agent. And I just thought, just done schoolroom. There were miles more people. I'm in a pub with one person.
Starting point is 00:26:30 Nobody else in the pub. Nobody in the pub. Two men behind the bar and two men sat in the pub. And everyone had to go to me. He wouldn't even lock down. No, it wasn't. It was before. Just because I think Boris was talking about not going to social gatherings
Starting point is 00:26:46 and all this business. it was in the afternoon having a pizza with my old agent, nobody in there, nobody there. Yeah, but they like to blow things out of proportion. Well, nothing was going on, was it really? So everyone, I think a few people have been attacked by the media during lockdown just because nothing's going on.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So they just have to make a story out of note, I guess. That was the most serious thing I've ever said. I love you for that. I want to know what makes you laugh because a lot of people will say, what makes you laugh? Oh, it's Keith Lemon makes me laugh. But what makes you properly gop for with laughter? My mum.
Starting point is 00:27:25 My mum and dogs on skateboards. First of all, it's an incredible joy to see a dog on a skateboard. You think, how clever is that dog? It's learnt to skateboard. And look how funny it looks with its little leg pushing the skateboard. I hope it doesn't fall over. It always brings a smile to me face in the same vein as the fat man. noise, the funniest noise in the world.
Starting point is 00:27:47 But then also, silence is a funny thing. If you're on the telly show, you just go quiet for too long. People start uncomfortably laughing. And the uncomfortable laughter always makes me laugh. And the madness of my mum. And I always think, are you pretending to be daft? Because sometimes I think she just pretends to be daft. But she does it because she knows it brings joy to people, her daftness.
Starting point is 00:28:10 So, yeah, my mum's always funny. And people say, like, who's your favourite comedian? and stuff to me. I love Jim Carrey. I love Mike Myers and Vic and Bob. And I thought Sasha Barron Cohen was great as well, still is. I'm looking forward to Borat to Electric Bugaloo. I wish it was called that. It's not called that, is it? I like Sasha Baranconi. He was great. And I used to work with him. Well, say not with him in the same office. I used to work at the Paramount Channel and I was sat next to Dom Jolly and Sasha Barroncoin was opposite me. who else was there? Matt Lucas and David Williams were there. No Fielding and Julian Barrett were there.
Starting point is 00:28:48 Yeah, it was a weird office full of loads of people, just doing funnies, I guess. Did you know that if you looked around that room, did you know that all those people were going to be hugely successful, including yourself? Would you have put money on all of them? Some of them, yeah, well, quite excited to see Matt Lucas there because he was George Dawes to me. And Simon Peg was there with, what was he doing? I can't remember what he's doing. I think they were making spaced as well. But yeah, they were all incredible people. I was in all of them, really, because I felt like they were like real comedians and such. And then I just calmed my way in, which is the same feeling I had when I was sat with, um, um, Fern Cotton at the BAFTAs twice and sat there like, they're going to kick us out some we shouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And then she went to present an award and then sat back down next to me. She went, what are you going to do if you win? Have you got a speech? I went, I'm going to win. I said, Graham Norton, you know, so I'm not going to win. And then what's weird enough, it felt a little sticker underneath my chair and then pulled this sticker off under my chair
Starting point is 00:29:51 and I had my name on. I thought, well, that's weird. And then my category came up and I won. And I just didn't know what to do, so I put a posh voice on, pretending to be posh. You love the fact that he won the award and you could tell that, you know, they're overwhelmed. And that is wonderful.
Starting point is 00:30:07 Those are the people who should win awards, people who work really hard, but also really appreciate the award. awards, not the people that get up and go, oh, here we go, another one. Well, thank you very much to my agent. Do you what I mean? You know, I've been to people's houses where they have their awards in their toilets. It's going, don't put you award in your toilet.
Starting point is 00:30:24 That's where you do a shit. Yes. Something to look at while you wait. But where's yours then? It's in my office, what I'm sat in now, on my shelf. With all me others, everyone could blow me on trumpet. It's on my top shelf next at a 12-inch figure of a robot. actually that Jonathan Ross gave me when I went to his office for the second series of shopping,
Starting point is 00:30:49 which is called shopping and not shopping, because we filmed some of it before lockdown. And you're doing that now, though, aren't you? Have you finished? Finished. I've finished. I think I've got probably one day of voiceover unless I did that yesterday. Celebrity juice, of course, as you said, that's back. I forgot to go to the voiceover for celebrity juice. And I was going for a pint with my agent, and she said, how did celebrity juice go? What do you mean? You did voiceover for that today, didn't you? Oh, no. You're supposed to?
Starting point is 00:31:15 Oh, no. And I just ran there. Luckily, I was like five minutes away, so I just ran there. Did the voice, I went, and she just waited outside. I'll be two minutes. It's just for the title sequence. It's a little bit of a revamp because we've got new team captains. Does it feel different as a show?
Starting point is 00:31:34 It feels different for me, simply because it's with two different captains. And we've had different captains before, when Holly and Thurn were off having babies and stuff. So I'm used to that. But sort of knowing that they're there, you know, that's their job now, these girls. And the two girls, who I love dearly, and have known for years.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And so there's no gambling of chemistry. We know we're already friends. But the weirdest thing is the small audience of 46 people because of COVID. Right in the corner, there's a bunch of tables and there's microphones coming out of the floor. And so there's, audience sit on these tables with masks on. I can't even see them. I guess the good thing is you can go
Starting point is 00:32:18 and have photographs of them because there's only 46 people, but I can't step over the line, which they're in, they're in like a roped off area and I can't step, I can't go into it, but I go up to them and do a photograph, socially distance photograph. And the first episode is, it's so weird because not hearing laughter or claps or anything. You can hear it a little bit, but not much. So on the second episode, I was like more prepared for it in my mind. And I've done loads of telly without audiences, you know. So I just kind of look at like it's not a show with an audience anymore until it goes back to normal.
Starting point is 00:32:55 But so it's just sort of make the panellists, giggle and laugh, hopeful, and entertain them. So you have to ramp it up a little bit more for energy in the same vein as when we did lockdown juice because that was by myself in my garden. And I'd seen a lot of. of lockdown telly and I thought I'm going to give it more welly because I thought I don't like watching lockdown telly
Starting point is 00:33:15 when it's just filmed on my computer so I'm going to ramp it up as much as I can as I didn't sit down because yeah I thought I can't sit down I've got a lay an egg and I did I laid an egg a laid an egg but you love
Starting point is 00:33:30 you love laughed at you love people laughing at you and with you and you love applause and I think all performers do and suddenly having that reduced or taken away I was a guest on with Lisa Tarbuck and Sue Perkins
Starting point is 00:33:44 on their show, the Games Night. And there was no audience. There was no audience at all. And it was. Weird. Yeah, it was. And we were all trying,
Starting point is 00:33:53 I found myself trying so hard to be daft and funny just to make the others all laugh that you go over the top. But you feed off the audience, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Normally.
Starting point is 00:34:04 And when you're not, you're getting an applause or a laugh, you get, I don't know. It feels like you're peeing in the, wind a little bit. So you've got to do it for the panelists, really, entertain the panelists. But we've got Halloween juice next week, which is amazing. I love Halloween juice.
Starting point is 00:34:20 It's my favourite one. We all get dressed up in. What's the easiest way out of Halloween? Bit of blood. I tell you what I do like on Halloween, though. People doing zombie versions of people like zombie Alice in Wonderland or zombie little red riding hood, that sort of thing. I like those as costumes because you're like, oh, I don't know what to go on.
Starting point is 00:34:39 what shall I go on as, but he could go as Gabby Roslin, but zombie version of Gabby Roslin. Well, that's easy. Well, I think, in my mind, if I was dressing as you, I'd go vintage and go big breakfast. I'd probably put you in a red suit. And with some sort of hair coming up at the front, probably. There's fringe coming up at the front.
Starting point is 00:35:00 And very short skirts. That wave of hair, a wave of hair at the front and a red suit. Oh, don't. It's 28 years ago. Is it 28 years ago? It started 28 years ago. Wow. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:35:15 So I never got to meet Paula Yates. Was Paula Yates lovely? She was extraordinary. She was like nobody I've ever met before or since. Yeah. She was utterly unique. And she really was like a kitten and like a doll. You know, with somebody, she was, I don't mean in a breakable way,
Starting point is 00:35:32 but, you know, she was so, she was very gorgeous and incredibly sexy. Yeah, she was sexy. First thing in the morning, she was just. properly sexy and she had this whole her whole way and how she was with people and people were intoxicated by her yeah we couldn't be more different paula yates and i were the absolute i was the straightest person on television she was the sexiest person and then there was chris in the middle so it was i think that's why it worked really yeah very different eclectic mix do you and chris know each other i'm not to say a lot or i'd imagine you two getting on really well i'd imagine you two
Starting point is 00:36:08 getting on really well. I imagine because you both, you just look at things. You look at things differently and so does he. When you look at something, you don't just see the beauty of the tree in the garden and the blue sky. You'll see what you can then do with that. And that's the same with you with everything, isn't it? Yes, it's weird because I don't like throwing stuff away. And it's the same with my offspring. As soon as I throw some out, where I'll go, I'm going to use that to make one of those things. Are they very crafty as well? Your children? Yeah, my eldest does a lot of art and they've just got we in lockdown we all got into sewing um i got a sewing machine and they like so by hand and they make clothes to their barbies and um but now they do the cat is funny they do
Starting point is 00:36:52 what i used to do they're turning their barbies into stranger things characters by making the same clothes as they wearing stranger things so i'm often going now can you make these jeans for me I'll have a go And I used to do that with my toys When I was a kid Like turn them into characters That you couldn't buy And go oh look
Starting point is 00:37:14 Now I've got a Michael J. Fox figure Can I just share something I have to get off my chest Yeah I hate Barbie Do you? Hate Barbie You hate Barbie
Starting point is 00:37:25 Yeah My wife Derek's got a collection of Barbies And I'm looking at them Now they're on her shelf in the office She's got I Dreamer Jeannie She's got Bewitched She's got Alexis from Both Dynasty
Starting point is 00:37:38 Crystal and Alexis She's got two Greece Barbies She's got a David Bowie Barbie Yeah she's got Cameron Diaz And Drew Barrymore From Charles Angels Barbie Do you know the history of Barbie No
Starting point is 00:37:50 That she's actually Lady of the Night That's where the idea came from It's based on an ad In a newspaper Which was promoting Paying for Romance No And it was the character
Starting point is 00:38:03 So they used in the ad. And initially, Barbie had nipples. And then Mattel was, is it Mattel? I think it's Mattel, in it? Mattel were like, no, no, no, no, no nipples for our Barbie, no nipples. And they got rid of the nipples. And then she just had boobs with no nipples as we know Barbie now. And then they made a Barbie that when you pull her arm down,
Starting point is 00:38:24 a belly grew so she was pregnant. And then they're going, no, Barbie shouldn't be pregnant. She would just never get married. Barbie should always be sort of ready to go on the adventures of a lady and we don't want to tie her down to be a married person or having a baby. Because we don't know it's up to the little girl to decide what happens with Barbie's life, not us. But Barbie comes in all different sizes and shapes now, which I think is glorious. My kids look for Barbies that look like them.
Starting point is 00:38:56 And then, you know, you get a ginger Barbie with freckles and stuff. We were in search for a Barbie that had brown eyes, so she could turn it into Millie Bobby Brown, 11 from Stranger Things, which again, I had to cut the hair and make the trousers for that. You are the dream dad. And you wouldn't think so, would you? Because I'm a right potty mouth as well. But I don't swear at home.
Starting point is 00:39:19 So you know what I did? Not I did? What? I showed them, what's it? Suicide Squad. Because they like superheroes. I thought they can watch Suicide Squad. The only violence is fighting monsters.
Starting point is 00:39:28 and I knew there were no F's and Jeffs in there and obviously when they saw it they got obsessed with Harley Quinn and then they said can we watch Birds of Prayer yeah because I thought it at the same tone even though I'd seen it but just forgot and she's I'm Harley mother effing Quinn
Starting point is 00:39:45 and oh no and F you and all this lot and then I said I'm sorry I said I can't remember not swearing but don't worry dad mum uses these words all the time when she's in a car when she's in a car She uses it.
Starting point is 00:40:00 It ruins off time when she's in car. I may have heard it. It gets Rodridge. Do you know what? I'm going to... All you've got to do is, Robbie Williams, big name, drop, but hey,
Starting point is 00:40:11 I spoke to him a couple of weeks ago. Robbie said you've got to learn to take a compliment. So I'm going to give you a compliment and you just say thank you. I better learn to take it right quick. I'm saying this to Lee, right? Lee, I think you were a genuine...
Starting point is 00:40:24 Gabby, you've got mad, me, Nins, Keith. I don't have an A.K. because people know I am and tell it's just my family. All right, okay, Keith. So they're an ominous. Anominious. Okay.
Starting point is 00:40:36 So Keith Lee. Leigh. Keith Lee. Right. Shush, I'm going to tell you, I think that you were an utter joy and I think you're a gift of a person. And I'm blessed to call you a friend now. And thank you for doing this because you just enjoy to the world. I agree with everything you said, Gavin.
Starting point is 00:40:55 But when do we start this podcast? Is this the sound chair? Because she didn't say welcome. Have we not, have we done it? Thank you, my darling. I thought we were just warming up before we start doing it. Yeah, for an hour. That Gabby Roslin podcast is proudly produced by Cameo Productions.
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