That Gaby Roslin Podcast: Reasons To Be Joyful - Marisha Wallace

Episode Date: December 10, 2024

Marisha Wallace joins Gaby for a chat about all things joy and musicals. They chat about her current role in Panto, her one-woman show which she's putting on next year - and an exciting new acting job she's taking on in January! They also talk about the hard graft she has been through, how she's struggled with weight issues and come through the other side - and how important it is to have a champion fighting your corner. We hope you enjoy the chat! (and the sing along) ) Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So delighted to welcome this week. Somebody I've known for a very long time. And you are looking so happy. Thank you. Marisha Wallace, welcome at last. You know what? I have done interviews with you for so long. I feel like you've seen me through every iteration of my journey here.

It's just been incredible. I love being on the show with you. Oh, well, it's just... You know the whole thing. I do. You know the whole story. From when you landed here, I remember talking to you when you were in...

so you did Dream Girls? Yes. So I spoke to you when you did Dream Girls and then you were put in permanently because you came in and then you were put in when Amber left. So I talked to you then.

Waitress I didn't. No. You loved doing a waitress. But you did talk to me during my Christmas album that I made. Your Christmas album. That was random. And tomorrow.

And tomorrow. You sung that live. I sung that. And I think I sang one of my Christmas songs on your radio show. Yeah, you did on the radio show. and just an amazing supporter. Well, I love you.

The whole time. And also, I cried when you were a big brother. Did you? Because I was just... Oh, that makes me sound like an aunt. No, I'm about to cry. No, I just felt so proud. And what was so lovely is the Marisha that I've now known for all these years over all these shows and albums and things, I thought, now everyone's getting to see you.

Yeah. Because that was you. Yeah. That really was you. That's what I loved about that whole experience. It was like, what the audience saw was how my friends see me. Yeah. That's like, that's the Marryman.

a richa that you guys know. So that was the best thing. Because I was like, I wasn't portrayed in any other way than authentically myself. But you always, do you know what? You have always been. So the very first time that I interviewed you and you were doing dream girls and you kept saying, this is the dream. This is the dream.

Because it wasn't that you were new to it because you'd done it in the States. Am I right? You started as a gospel. So I started as a church singer. So like my whole family's musical. We sang at the time. church that my dad built down the street that my grandparents were the pastor of. My mom was the choir director. My dad played guitar. My brother played the drums and the piano. My sister played the

drums. I was the singer. I was not an instrument person. I did play trumpet, but no one wanted that in the choir. So I was the singer. And yeah, so I grew up in music and I just had some really incredible teachers in high school who were like, you're not quite like the other kids. I think you should think about doing this professionally. And this was even when I was in high school. I had a teacher who took me to my first Broadway show. And she was like, we went to see Disney's Aida. And it was on tour.

And it had a black woman as the lead. It was actually Nina Simone's daughter, which was actually crazy. And when I saw her being exalted and lifted up and she was like the center of the narrative and she was falling in love on stage and my teacher goes, that's you, you need to do that. Ghost bumps.

That's what she's at. See, isn't it amazing how many people that I've interviewed who there's a person, a teacher, an aunt, a friend, whatever, that's a person that goes, that could be you. And then suddenly makes that light bulb, you know, oh yeah, I can do it. Yeah, because at the time, I think all, I didn't think it was even possible, especially where I come from. I come from a really small farm town in North Carolina.

We raised hogs. That was like a thing. We were to pick farmers. And everyone had talent, but no one knew how to get it out of the world. that small town because we were poor and we didn't have access and we don't have a lot of people. My sister was probably the first one to graduate from college in my family. My mom dropped out of school when she was in middle school. So it's crazy that I've made it this far coming from where I come from.

It is amazing. Your story is incredible. Yeah. And yet what's so interesting is the shows that you've done sort of echo your life story. Every time. It's so weird. Like when I get to a certain point in my life, a show comes along that's like right fitting for the time. It's so crazy. So Dream Girls was, the fit was perfect, wasn't it? Absolutely perfect. And when I got that role, I was going through some of the worst times in my life in New York. I was married at the time. I was young. I was in New York with my ex-husband. And I was carrying us because he was. He was so unwell.

And I was just carrying everything. I was working 12 hours a day. I was doing all the workshops of new musicals and in the Broadway show at the same time. And was like, and I remember like two weeks before I got the call to come here, I was on my knees praying. And I never get on my knees to pray. I usually just pray in my bed or whatever. And I remember my ex-exam was like, what are you doing on the ground? I was like, I'm praying.

I was praying to get out of that situation. Yeah. I was like, God, if you get me. out of this, I'm going to run for my life and I'm going to just focus on this and be the best at this. And then I got the call. That's what I said about looking at you now to how I first met you. I can see happy. Yeah. Because you were and you admitted, I remember you saying to me of fair, you said, oh, this is, I've just come through it and I just don't know how, and I said, you can do this. You can, I remember that. But, but, but you, and also,

Then you were so honest with everybody about what you've been through and also your weight loss. Yeah. Because you were beating yourself up about that as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was a lot of self-hatred which you talk about. Well, you know, you never know how you're self-medicating your trauma. And I self-medicated with food. I self-medicated with the loneliness that I felt.

Because coming here was amazing, but still it had its challenges, you know. You were on your own. I was on my own. And I feel like I've been on my own since I've been about 17. because I left home when I was about 17 and went to college and then straight from college to New York. And I've been on my own a lot. And I never realized that's how I coped with loneliness, with emotions.

So I was an emotional eater. And then I was like, there's got to be a better way. And then in the pandemic, I had gotten to the highest way I've ever been in my life because I didn't have the shows to kind of mitigate it. And I was like, there's got to be. something better than this. I was like, it's a song like that. It's got to be something better than this. That does. And I decided to focus on my health. And in focusing on my health, it gave me the discipline to focus on my career. So then my career started taking off because I was like, wait.

So, because if you change the things inside of you, things start to change around you. I think people don't really know that. Like, that's where the change starts inside. That's interesting because I think a lot of people You know they'll think Oh well she wanted to lose weight to look It wasn't this was about the inside of your head and the inside It starts with five pounds it starts with 10 pounds But then it ends up being no I want to be the strongest person in the room

Physically mentally spiritually the strongest that I can be And so that's when I started heavy lifting And I was like man if I can lift this like 125 kilo 125 kilo Yeah it's 100,000,000 I'm 135. Sorry, you're what? Hip thrust.

135. Wow. I put it on the bar. But when I lift that, it's like some kind of crazy thing to my mind as well. Because I'm like, if I can do that, then I definitely can book that part. And I can go tackle that. And I can do that. Because if I can lift that weight, I can lift this mental weight that I have, like which.

But you've been an inspiration for a lot of people. Thank you. No, you have. I mean, if you read any of the comments underneath, it's thank you for doing this. Because I needed that. I needed to hear it. And it's, I think there's so much pressure about how you look these days on social media, which I can't bear. And you know what?

There's, like, what's right for you is not always right for everyone else. Like, everybody's goals for their bodies are different. And I'm tired of people policing other people and how they should look or feel. It's how you feel. If you're happy with how you look, whatever size you are, great. If you're not happy with that and you want to change it, change it. But do it in the healthy way. Do it a healthy way.

Do the healthy way. I've really, like, worked. But what I realize is that it takes time and it takes work. There's no quick fixes. There's no like get quick, get slim in five days. Actually, there are these days. There are some things you can do, but I don't know if that really is the answer. But then even that still takes work because then you still have to change your habits

and then you still have to eat right and you still, because then the weight will come back. So either way you're going to learn. Yeah, yeah. Either way, you're going to grow. You're going to have to figure it out either way. But I think it's very important to just be healthy because there's so many people in my family with diabetes and with like hypertension, like one of my aunts is like severely obese

and can't walk. So even my mom I've gotten her into like taking care of herself better. And she looks great and she's been feeling great. I've seen her on your Instagram. She's amazing. What you've done for your mom? Man, that makes me cry. The house.

I went back. Did you guess? Yeah, I went back and I got to actually love. live in the house because the last time I was there, there was no furniture. So we should explain. So you got your mom. I bought my mom a house in North Carolina. And like I was telling you, we grew up on this farm.

And the house that we lived in was like a converted mobile home. So it was a mobile home that they like bricked up. So she never had a house that was proper. So I brought her proper home with a nice kitchen. And they have chickens in the back. And she's just so, this is the happiest I've ever seen my mom in her whole whole whole. in my whole life. I was talking to her the other night. And she was just crying because she was like, I've never been this happy. Your niece has never been, my niece lives with her as well.

My niece has never had her own room. Like, I don't think people realize how important is to have your own space as a person. Like, now she has her own space. She got this amazing job because I was like, well, I couldn't do it before. She was like, I didn't have the space. Like, I didn't have, I didn't feel good about myself because I didn't have my own space. I was like, wow. So just, Even that has changed. I never thought buying a little house would change everything about the dynamics of my family and how important that is to generational wealth. As black people who grew up in the South, a lot of people never owned a house, never had access to that.

But I would have friends because I grew up, it was weird because in my area, it was a poor area. But then around us, we were a lot of affluent, like, doctors. And I had a lot of friends who were rich. And I was like, well, how do they have all this? and I can't have that. You know what I mean? So I was like, how can I bring generational wealth to my family? And it's to buy property.

That's how you can do it. Because now that house can be passed down and then we'll get another house and then they can pass it to their friends and made to their family. And it's great. Hopefully not to their friends. You mean to their family?

Yeah, yeah. To the family. So for you, I mean, that was a huge thing. And you put it on your socials. Like I said, you're very honest about a lot of things. let's go to the tomorrow when you brought that out I remember Michael Ball

was playing it all the time on radio too and I was playing it on the BBC as well on BBC London and on BBC sounds but it was it hit a note because suddenly people were going this song the way you did that it was incredible

I remember us speaking on the phone and we did something for Hello magazine together. And it was extraordinary that song then. The whole story of that song is extraordinary because before the pandemic happened. So just this past year in February, my former manager, Bob's, passed away.

And he was like my biggest advocate. I can't talk about him. It makes me cry. Of course. But he always believed. He always believed in me. And he so when I told him about this idea, I was like, I have this idea where I want to do like a gospel version of tomorrow from Annie. And he was like, well, you know what? I'm going to introduce you to Steve Anderson.

He's Kylie Minow's producer. I think you would like this. And then we met in my dressing room at Waitress. This is before the pandemic, 2019. And I met and I talked to him about it. And he was like, oh, yeah. Oh, okay, cool. And then the pandemic happens.

And he calls me and he goes, remember we had an idea about the gospel version of Annie, the tomorrow? I think we should do it. And I was like, but everything's closed down. And he was like, just recorded in your house. And I was like, okay. So I got a mic off Amazon and I like plugged it into my laptop. He sent me the track and I just recorded it in the house.

It was incredible. And that's the song that was the song. And it was the darkest part of the pandemic. Like we didn't know what was going on. And I was singing this in my house. house and like I sent it back to him and he was like whoa okay we have something just sing a little bit now the sun will come out tomorrow bedger bottom dollar that tomorrow there'll be sun and then it took on his whole life but it was crazy and then I actually went to Deca records because I had been courting them trying to get

a deal. And I sent it to them and I was like, I have this amazing song. You have to help me. And they were like, amazing. But we have so many other charity singles that we're working on. And I was like, okay. And then Steve says, release it yourself. And I was like, what? Is that release it yourself? You already know how to release an album. Just release it yourself. So I released it myself. I enlisted all my friends, all my celebrity friends. I knew how to be following on Instagram. I was like, can you help me make a lyric. video and I sent them I got this one girl who's a fan who was a good calligraphist to make the lyrics and each person held up a lyric I said just hold of this lyric and film yourself for 10

seconds and send it to me and everyone did it Leslie Hottom Jr. from Hamilton the original Aaron Burr oh my god like we had cat McPhee we had let me see we had oh my god we had then we We had nurses and we had doctors and we had kids and we had families and we had everyone did it. And then I put the video out. I made the video myself, edited it myself and put it out. Your work ethic is incredible. I still can't believe I did that. No, you can't believe it.

I can't believe I did. And then I put it out and it went viral. The video went viral. It was amazing. And then Michael Ball caught wind because we gave it to Stee softly, who was his producer. And I think he gets to play two songs. And he was like, I'm going to play the song because it's good. And then the emails kept coming in.

Play that song again. Play it song again. Who's playing that song? And that was the, and then it became a whole thing. And Decker came back and gave me a record. Yeah, I was going to say. So then Decker go knocking at your door. Hi, Marisha.

Remember us? Remember us? Yeah. So right now you are in Panto. Yes. In the Palladium, excuse me. Three nights. I mean, you've been on.

open a little while. How is Panto? Oh, no, it's not. Oh, yes, it is. Oh, yes, it is. He's behind me. It's, Panto is wonderful. It's so British. Although you're a citizen. I'm going to be a citizen this year.

You know what? Royal Variety Show singing the national anthem. That was wild to me. I mean, you're doing that. That comes out next week. But, like, I've never done, like, this is like, okay. You know Charles and Commer. Sorry, actually, I should call the King. a week. You know them. I know them. You did the D-Day? Yeah, and then they came to Guys and Dolls.

They came to D-And they, and did they come down on the ground and join in? Well, I saw them two weeks later at the Buckingham Palace because they invited me to the palace. Lovely, as you do. So I came to the palace and they were like, and I saw Queen Camilla and she was like, and Arlene was with me. She's like, this is Adelaide from Guys and Dolls and goes, oh my God, it's Adelaide. And she goes, Charles, Charles, come me, Miss Adelaide, come meet Miss Adelaide. And I was like, am I in a sandgirls by the king and queen? And he was like, oh my God, I hear you're incredible.

That everyone loved that. Camilla can't stop talking about it. You were so incredible in it. And I was in that moment going, how did I get from the pig farm to here? I love that. It's crazy. But yeah, the Palladium is such an iconic venue anyway. But then to do something so very British and so for them to invite me in.

Clarion as well. And I'm the villain. I love that. Which I love. I think it's fantastic. So the Royal Variety show, you're going to do your own show at the Delphi. At the Delphi. It's going to be massive.

March 11th. It's already sold really well and we started selling it way before now. But still get tickets because I think it's just going to be an amazing celebration of everything. What are you going to open with? I'm doing loads of songs that people know me for, that people, like from all. the shows, like the big numbers. Will you do? And I'm telling you. Oh, just a little bit now. Tomorrow. A little bit. And I am telling you, I'm not going. Oh! Now you see, everybody's going to be buying tickets because they're going to go, I want more of that.

Yes, more, more, more. So you're going to be doing any Ado. Aido, any, some Adelaide, some of the new stuff. A boy son. A boy son could develop a call. A poison. Can we do it again? You can spray it wherever you figure the strep to cock I like. You can give her a shot or whatever she's got, but it just won't work. Yay! Oh, I loved guys and dolls.

It's a real shame that's coming off. I know. Yeah. But I mean, what about you man? You and Danny? We thought it was going to be three months. I remember you telling me that. You told me that you were going, you were doing, excuse me, you told me that you were going in to do guys and dolls.

and Danny told me he was doing it. And I remember speaking to you both, you went, oh, so nice, it's just a few months. And then award winning. I mean, life changing, though. Oh, do you think, is that for you, life changing? Oh, like, everything before and after guys and dolls is like a different chapter because guys and dolls brought me big brother,

guys and dolls brought me all these celebrities from like all over finally saw me. They were like, where have you been? And I'm like, I've been at 20 years. I've been doing this. I've been doing this. But like Hugh Jackman came. Oh, my God. Kavana Zeta Jones came.

And I used to watch that Chicago movie every day. You've never done Chicago? No. Would you do Chicago? I would do Chicago. Which one? Who'd you be? It's hard.

I think I'd be Roxy because I don't want to be doing the splits every day. I don't know if I want to be doing the splits. And that role is fun. It's a great show. I mean, all the roles are good. Mama's good. Oh, Mom is fantastic. Film's good.

All of them are good. But yeah, so the amount of people who came, all the film and TV people, it just put me on the radar, put me on the map, even more than Oklahoma. Oklahoma was the start. And they were like, ooh, who's that? And then Nick Hyder came and saw it. I remember sitting next to somebody,

it was two name dropy, so I won't say who he is. Massive, massive movie star. Tell me. No, I'll tell you afterwards, because it's too name droppy, and I'm not going to do it. Why is it too name crappy? Because it's too embarrassing. And we were sitting next to each other,

and at the end of it, he sort of held my arm, and he went, Gabby, this is. something incredible. This is incredible. There is a connection with that person with the show you're about to do at the beginning of next year. Well, there you go. Rather bizarrely, there is an extraordinary connection. So you might put two and two together and two together. Yeah. Let's talk about this show that you're about to do. So it's massive. You are going to be the first black Sally Bowles. with Billy Porter.

I can't even believe you're saying that now. It's just it. Like, I can't believe you're saying that out loud. So you and I, we message because Billy told me. Yeah. And then I messaged you. Yeah. Because I was just, you know.

And I messaged you. And I went, I can't believe that. I mean, you were, you're, it was as if your WhatsApp. I could hear your voice screaming back at me. Talk me through how this has all happened. Well, I, so. I feel after doing Ato-N-A and doing Adelaide, I kind of made it like my mission to take roles

that have never been seen through the lens of a black woman and to do it and to just show what it could be. And because it changes everything. When you change the lens, it's like when you put a filter on a photo, it just changes it. But I actually was like with a friend. I was with one of my best friends. And I asked him, I said, why has it ever been a black Selly Bowles?

And he was like, there weren't that many black people around during that time. There would have been no black people at the Kit Kat Club. And I was like, wait, this was 1930s. This is the same 1930s of Billy Holiday, Ella Fitzgerald, Josephine Baker, who actually did cabarets in Berlin. Like, I saw one of her tour posters and it had London, New York, Berlin on it as the stops. And on top of that, but me as a black person, I didn't even know for sure who was there and what in what capacity of black history was in Nazi Germany. So then I went down a rabbit hole and I just started researching and there was a book called Destin to Witness and it was about black history in Nazi Germany.

But then I read about the Rhineland bastards who were mixed race children of German soldiers and African people. and there were 50,000 Africans living in Berlin at the time before occupation. There were many artists who had moved from the United States, black artists moved from the United States to Europe to find better lives because they were escaping racism in America. And then when they get to Germany and they get to Europe, wait, there's a whole new brand of racism. And then also a lot of performers, there were black performers in the Gikga Club

because that's where you could actually be accepted. Like, you may not be accepted on the street, but when it comes to talent and performing, black people have always had the opportunity to be out front and that way, even if you had to go out the back to use the toilet. You were always going to be able to be on stage because of the talent. So then I was like, okay, Sally Bowles, to me is Josephine Baker. Because Josephine Baker moved from St. Louis to France

and became a fully French woman. She had a fully French persona that she created for herself. And I was like, well, why couldn't that be me? And that's kind of what I've done here as well in my own self. I came from America because I felt boxed in. I felt like I couldn't be the performer I wanted to be. And then I came here and I found all the success. And so I feel like Sally in that way.

And this is how we can use our art to spread a light on a time period and on people that we didn't know about, that we can kind of spread a light on black history in Nazi Germany. And I was like, I didn't even know. There were so many black people who were sterilized so that they couldn't have babies. Just shocking.

In Mind Kampf, a Hitler's biography, he talks about the Ronald Ambassadors, and he uses it as a ploy to get German people to accept extermination. Because he was like, well, see, the Jews are trying to defile the race by having babies with black people. I didn't even know that. I had no idea. The whole thing, what's so interesting is that cabaret, people go along.

If you've never seen cabaret, go. I mean, I've now seen the Kit Kat Club version. I think I've seen it five times. And I love the show. So as a show, as a kid, I thought, what great songs. Then I learned every song, and it was great. And then you go along, and there is a moment in the show I'm not giving anything away

where you find out that someone's a Nazi and there's the swastika and it's chilling. It's utterly chilling the way they do it and it's a reminder and then you look at the songs

again as an adult you listen to the words of the songs and you just think and the story and you taking on this role with that now knowing all that that you've taught us and Billy as well

and Billy together and everything that he's been through and everything he's been through and everything he's been through and everything we've been through as performers trying to escape the racism just to perform just to do your art. But also he's gone through all the stuff with his sexuality and how people perceive him

and how people perceive you. Yeah. It's going to bring it onto another level. It just raises the stakes. Yeah. Because then now for us to survive is even more important. Do you know how loudly I am going to scream on your opening eye? No, I'm being serious.

I will, but between the two, if you're going to. you. Yeah. I will be, oh, it's going to be insane. When we study the Holocaust in school, it would say six million Jews were killed in a concentration camps and there would be a little sentence that would say, and also blacks, queers, disabled people. Disabled, a socialist. And I'm communist. And I was like, who are those people? I was like, I want to meet those people. The families of those people. Yeah. I want to know who those people were. I And I think doing this is going to open up so much conversation and people are just going to be like, let's talk about that.

Let's get to research that. And that's what art should do. I think that's what I should do. And that's what you do. And you do put that. You do put that out there. And you know what the other thing about you is that you've never denied that you want, and I'm going to use fame in air quotes, okay.

You want no, I hate using the word fame and celebrity, because it's not what you want success, you want people to know that you can do what you know you can do. And now people know it. Does that make sense? I think it's the platform. It's like, well, because I see,

that's the reason why I went on Big Brother because I was like, we need to shine a light on the people who are doing this kind of work and who are in the business and like are doing the business. A lovely friend Hannah Waddingham. Exactly.

I've known Hannah 2000 years when she was a hofer. She was there in the West. been doing the work and she was doing it. And now she's out there and people go, oh, musical theater! But you can do it all. It doesn't mean just because you do musical theater that you can't

have an album, that you can't act in a straight play, that you can't be in a movie. You can. It's the hardest thing. We are the hardest working people in show business, I think, because it's every single night. It's non-stop. If you have a cold, if you're sick, you've got to take your family. You just do it. The show must go on.

The show must go on. And there's no frills, No one's doing your makeup. No one's doing your hat. Like, you have to just show up and do it. And I think shining the light on that, when I got nominated for the Olivier in the Big Brother House, there were so many people who didn't even know what the Olivier Awards were. And to me, that sounded like blasphemous.

I was like, how do you not know what this is? But it exposed to so many people who can't come down for a Broadway show, a Broadway show. It exposed them to the fact that they could have this life. they could be actors or they could even come see a show. Like, you know what I mean? Do you know it's interesting? The one thing that I get on my high horse about, and I talk about this every week on my Sunday show,

is the price of tickets. And I think what the National Theatre have done doing NT Live is fantastic. And I think a lot of shows need to be brought to the regions. I love regional theatre. It's amazing. Touring theatre, fringe theatre. We need to all support it.

Back to Panto. Panto is what keeps a lot of regional theaters going. I think Panto keeps theater alive, period. Because what I've learned by working on as Panto is that some of people, this is their first introduction to theater at all. But kids can't see. Because they start so young and they're like every year they're going to theater. We don't even have this tradition in America.

Well, now you're not American. Now you're British. Yeah, your dual nationality. I'm dual now. So, yeah, so to be able to, that's why your theater here is. so strong because I think Panto gets people already like in the tradition of going to the theatre

from, you know, a young age. So I'm excited to do Panto. I think it's great. I think it's fantastic you're doing it. So Panto, Adelphi Theatre, and in between that, you're going to be salient. Oh my word. The Royal Variety show, you'll

see Camilla and Charles. She'll probably will be in the box. They'll be, Marisha. I think I'll get to do the lot. So I did it in 2020. You've done it before. But it was the COVID year. It was COVID. Do you know what was in the seats, in the audience, flat screen televisions with people on Zoom? I'll never forget it.

It was hundreds of flat screen TV. Oh, my gosh. And I performed tomorrow to flat screen TV. That is insane. And none of the royals were there. It was in Blackpool and it was desolate. And so this time I get the full experience. Oh, it's going to be the full thing.

So I can go down the line and shake the hands. There might be somebody else there, but I'm not allowed to talk about it until everybody sees it. I wonder what I'm on me. I can't say. I can't say. It's very exciting. And the recording was fantastic fun. That's all I'm saying.

So this is the last thing I want to talk about, please? Yes. Him. Oh, my partner. It's just so lovely to see you properly. Look at your smile. You just look at that. You know what?

It's been such a... My love life has been so... You know what they say? When your career is doing well, your love life goes to crap. So my love life has been crap a lot. So it's finally nice to find someone who supports me and what I'm doing and isn't intimidated by me. Because you know when you're a powerful woman and you are a career-driven, a lot of men can't take that. So it's nice to have someone who just is like keep going.

the higher you fly is better. He's your cheerleader? He's a coach. I feel like he's my coach. Okay. Yeah, because he's like, he supports me in every way. Like he runs lines with me. That's lovely.

He runs lines with me. He like makes sure I'm taking care of myself. Like, he'll, I remember a D-Day. I had to go back to guys and dolls randomly because they had no Adelaides. So I ran and did that and got in the car and went to the D-Day celebration rehearsal. and I, but you know when you go back to a show, I feel like I was hit my truck. And I was like, oh my God, I have to do, I have to dance again.

And my feet and my legs were dead. And he has like, he's also a physio too. So he like got my legs back together. So useful. I was like, I couldn't even walk before and he got me back together. But just like little things like that. So he gets you back together physically, mentally and in your heart. Yeah.

He's healed your heart as well. Yeah, because, you know, it's so hard to love again after being. betrayed and going through so many things. And even with him, I've kind of been like, be patient with me because it takes me a while to like break down the wall that I have. And you've broken it down? Yeah, I'm breaking it down every day. I've got goosebumps.

Marisha, do you know what? You're flying, keep flying, keep flying and enjoying it and enjoying the ride. And I couldn't feel proud of like some crazy aunt. Well, you know what? You've been here every step of the way. And I think it takes people, it took, the reason why I think I have flown so high is because of people like you. I love very sweet, but no, you've got it, you've got it. You can't do it without support.

You can't, you can't get to those heights without people being like, let me give you a hand, let me give you a hand, let me just one hand at a time, just taking me up. And it's like, it's great. There's something else I think you should do, which we'll talk about off there. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you very much, Moisha Wallace. Ah, thank you.