That Lionesses Podcast - Stanway & Williamson: 4-0 Win, Squad Energy & Adele Anthems | That Lionesses Podcast Connected by EE

Episode Date: July 11, 2025

Fresh from that emphatic 4-0 victory over The Netherlands, Harriet is joined by Georgia Stanway and Leah Williamson for a celebratory catch-up! The duo reflect on that statement win, what it meant to... the squad, and how it felt to be back playing at their best. They also break down those stunning goals and highlight the power of team chemistry and resilience. Plus they share the tunes that got them hyped before kick-off and reveal who gave a surprise performance in camp. Follow @lionesses on Instagram, WhatsApp and X, plus @england on TikTok, Facebook and YouTube so you don’t miss a thing! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Guys, what a fantastic result. Georgia, powerful shot from outside the box, absolutely huge. She leathered it. Yeah, absolutely smashed it. One goal is a risk. Like, to get the second one, it allows us all to calm down a little bit. And then once we got the third, we were able to calm down and enjoy the game much more.
Starting point is 00:00:16 Thank you. Yeah. It benefits everybody. We love Adele. I love Adele. Adele, we love you. In the schedule, it said, like, surprise act. And we were like, oh my God, like, it's Adele. I love Adele. Adele, we love you. In the schedule it said like surprise act and we were like, oh my god, like it's Adele, like we're going to get a performer. And then Gail just came in and did a quiz. Hello and welcome to another episode of That Lioness' podcast connected by EE.
Starting point is 00:00:40 I'm Harriet Rose and today we're reacting to that incredible 4-0 win over the Netherlands. What a game! We're going to be chatting about how the team rose to the occasion, those brilliant goals and the resilience they've shown throughout their careers. And with me today are two stars of the game. It's Leah Williamson and Georgia Stanway! Welcome, welcome. Wow. I mean, did either of you get any sleep
Starting point is 00:01:07 last night? Were you able to wind down after an amazing day? I actually had a lot of sleep. I slept fantastic, I think I slept about 10 hours. Did you? Is it easy to do that after such a big game? Easier when you win. Yeah and early kickoff. Ah yeah yeah yeah. Like five and it was easier than the nine o'clock kickoff. And it's time to like wind down, I guess, get the adrenaline to like a normal level. What was the vibe like at breakfast this morning? It must have been incredible. Is everyone still on a high? I think it was a little bit sleepy, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:01:39 Everyone was a little bit sleepy. We had some nice talks in the last night. So like we had dinner and then we stayed and like chatted a little bit so that was quite nice and then everyone was pretty chill this morning. I missed all of that. I had doping yesterday so drugs testing so you get taken away and then you don't see anybody basically. Did you like that secretly just have a bit of your own time? It was just me and Alessia we were having a nice little laugh but we're both too scared to
Starting point is 00:02:04 we both waited ages because we didn't want to. Yeah because it's so easy. Yeah. We were having a nice little laugh. But we're both too scared to, we both waited ages, because we didn't want to. Yeah, because it's so easy. Yeah. If you pee too soon, and then you can't like top it back up again, so you have to like get the correct amount.
Starting point is 00:02:14 Wee. Wee. Yeah, so it's all in there. You're going to have to take me through this, because I don't, I don't regularly do dough tests. You have to produce a certain amount. Of wee. Of wee.
Starting point is 00:02:24 60 millilitres. 90. Oh, 90. And if you don't do it in the first go, then you have to wait, but then you obviously have to produce a certain amount of whey. Of whey. 60ml. 90ml. Oh 90ml. And if you don't do it in the first go you then have to wait but then you obviously have to wait for your bladder to fill up so you just wait as long as possible to be as safe as possible. So you didn't pee for a long period of time. And I think we left the stadium till about half ten. Yeah. Crikey. Yeah we just waited out to be safe. No it is better to do that. Yeah. Otherwise you double the time. Oh man. I'm glad that she had a nice time at dinner. I'm glad that you managed to pee an appropriate amount.
Starting point is 00:02:50 Yeah, it was great, thank you. Thank you. Welcome. Well I'm glad that you had a nice dinner, you had a nice pee. Now let's dive straight into talking about the game because guys what a fantastic result,-0 congratulations against the Netherlands with goals Lauren James, Ella Toon and the lady herself Georgia Samway what an incredible play it was like it was it was mad. Leah how proud of you of the team and how they responded last night? Very proud there was a lot of pressure on yesterday because if we had lost then we'd be going home and it's just the way it is.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah. So we knew that that was there but I think we were all really calm and just we just stuck together. It was really nice, very supportive like environment which was still really everyone was really pushing each other but I was you lot put in a shift I was proud of you for that. Just from the first minute we kind of just were like, we just need to go for it. And like we had the urgency, we had the aggressiveness. Everything. Yeah, we didn't let them breathe for like 45 minutes.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You really didn't. It was extremely stressful in the best way to watch. It was just like, there was, I think I was sitting for probably 10% of the match, like half off, half in the air the whole time. The crowd were loving it. It was it was really amazing. Do you give a little short speech or anything motivationally before the game or is it straight in? People always make me laugh when they ask this because I think we all just say like yeah it's not like you see in the movies most of the time. Oh my god here we are guys! But no it was actually Serena. Serena did all the talking. She just knew what the talking. She just
Starting point is 00:04:27 knew what to say. She had a really good feel of the group and we were just yeah we were all... You put your hands in and then it's like three two one and then we knew straight away because everyone was like two! Yeah and we're like right we're going. We're going yeah. When we chatted last week to Lauren and Esme it was so beautiful to have a conversation after the game against France. They were so stoic and so energized for the next game. It just, I feel like from speaking to a lot of the fans last night, they felt calm having watched the pod and then seeing the way you guys came out on the pitch, it was just like you guys were ready. Yeah, we've just been really focused.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Literally from Sunday. Yeah. Do we play Sunday? focused. Literally from Sunday. Yeah. Did we play Sunday? Saturday. Saturday, yeah. From Sunday we were like, okay, where's the game? We could have played that day,
Starting point is 00:05:11 that's how much we wanted to. Yeah, we were all ready to go again. France are a good team. Obviously it hurt us to lose, but it's not like a massive shock. Somebody had to win or whatever, and we didn't come out on the right side of it which annoyed us and hurt us so we just got it's just on job yeah and you did you absolutely were Georgia could you feel from early on in the game like
Starting point is 00:05:35 you're saying you felt that energy as soon as you said to but like it did it feel different on the pitch compared to the game against France and we'd spoke a lot in the week about communication and just like even giving somebody eye contact to be like, right, come on, we've got this. And I think from the first minute we were like aggressive. Yeah, Hannah played the first long ball and we were straight away winning the first and second balls
Starting point is 00:05:58 and that kind of set the tone for the whole game then. And if the back line are like super aggressive then it allows the midfield to be aggressive and then the front line to be aggressive so it kind of just like yeah a snowball effect onto everybody that if you're doing your job and you know that yeah your mates got your back then you can also do yours. Yeah absolutely and I want to take a bit of a moment to talk about Hannah because obviously keeping a clean sheet but and of course the long-range pass that set up that first opener was an incredible moment of quality playing. She's really staking her
Starting point is 00:06:29 claim with the Lionesses like what do you have to say about that sort of energy on the pitch it's just incredible really. Yeah I think like Georgia says we had a big conversation about getting our job done first and then doing more which is helping your mate out and what can you do for the person next year. So you guys obviously don't see it but on the pitch there's so much talking and little conversations and have a look at this or you know what I mean, like it's constant communication even though it doesn't necessarily look like it from the outside and then you know when you're having a good day when people just read
Starting point is 00:07:05 what's happening you know it's not like Hannah's ball to Les for the first goal is like something that we practice like as a phase of play or yeah it's not like a drill it's just this is a strength that this person has and this person reads it and is on it because on another day Les is on a different page and you know what I mean so when you know that everything's going well, you then have to keep going, which is why I think the first half, we wanted to get that second goal,
Starting point is 00:07:30 because we knew how well we were playing. I think everybody had a catalyst moment. So it wasn't just like you're relying on one person to do something. It was like everybody was just on it. And then like when you see your teammate doing that, you're like, right, I want to get stuck in now. Yeah. It really felt like you were, like you just said, using doing that, you're like, right, I want to get stuck in now. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:45 It really felt like you were, like you just said, using the word on the same page, you could not have been, every single player was on the exact same page. Like it was synonymous and beautiful to see. Like, and the skill level was nuts. Like it was just, you didn't almost at points know where to look
Starting point is 00:08:02 because it was constant. Let's talk a little bit about LJ scored 22 minutes in and then again Obviously in the second half in the 60th minute How great is it to see her back scoring goals for England after her injury must be great to see yeah We've got quite, you know We've got quite a few stories in the team this year where people have worked really hard to be back in a place to be able To represent England and like that's what they've had their eye on, that's what they've wanted to do because they love playing for their country that much so then when they get their moment on the
Starting point is 00:08:30 pitch it's lovely to see G scoring, LJ scoring, two people that have put themselves through a lot to be here and be in the shape that they are. I think it's lovely, it's nice as a team mate. Yeah and it's like everybody else has to work hard in order for those moments to happen. So like you have to do everything like as an 11, as like a bench, as like a full staff. Like yeah, of course like it's amazing, LJ scored that goal, but there's so much behind that goal. Yeah, absolutely. It's every single person in the team and outside is there making that happen. Georgia, powerful shot from outside the box, absolutely huge.
Starting point is 00:09:07 She leathered it. Yeah, absolutely smashed it. And you've also come back from an injury yourself this season. Does it make it extra special when you get those goals? I mean, the picture that I saw on Instagram was one of my favourite pictures I've ever seen. You just that everything about you're like in midair. The capture of that energy was so sick. Yeah, I was buzzing.
Starting point is 00:09:28 I was disappointed with the obviously my performance in the first game. And I was like, right, I've got some work to do here. And yeah, for me, I want to do my talking on the pitch and try and create as much consistency in my own performances. I know that I'm only three, four games maybe into being fully fit. But yeah, for me that was special because one goal is a risk. To get the second one, it allows us all to calm down a little bit. And then once we got the third, we were able to calm down and enjoy the game much more.
Starting point is 00:10:00 Same here. Yeah. It benefits everybody. Yeah, we were all in it with you. That was wonderful. I'm not going to lie. And I also knew that it was like very close to half time. So I was like, okay, if I take my time celebrating a little bit longer than usual, then maybe
Starting point is 00:10:15 we can run down the clock a little bit. Absolutely. Let's talk a bit about fun stuff as well. On the side, Leah, as the DJ in the group, what bangers did you have playing after the match yesterday? I was in doping. Oh, you had to go straight for the wee. It weren't me yesterday.
Starting point is 00:10:33 Before the game, we had classics. The last four songs before we went out were like Young Hearts Run Free, Never Too Much, Texas In A Smile. You did not know the one that I added to the playlist? Hurricane. Hurricane by Bridget Menla. Oh, I don't know it. Well, I'll listen to it after. much. Texas In A Smile. You did not know the one that I added to the playlist? Hurricane by Bridget Menla. Oh I don't know it. Well I'll listen to it after. That's disappointing. We have Tattoo by Jordan Sparks. I'm so sorry. Tattoo by Jordan Sparks. Yeah there were some
Starting point is 00:10:56 good ones. I'll talk over actually. We were there really early, like sometimes logistically I think we had to arrive first, we like we just had a bit more time. So everybody was sat for a bit longer, ready, waiting to go out. So we just put some sing-alongs on. I will say the sing-alongs are the ones that get everybody in the vibe, whether you're a footballer or not.
Starting point is 00:11:15 So I feel like it's the energy you sort of need. Yeah. A little, what I like to call a shout sing song. Yeah. A song that you can really shout along to. Yeah, yeah. That was after we had Adele. Yeah. What, Adele? Adele, if you're watching. All of them. Really. The Lionesses love Adele. You love Adele, don't you guys? We do, we do love Adele. This isn't the first
Starting point is 00:11:35 time we've talked about this because Adele's come up quite a few times in a karaoke room. We love Adele. I love Adele. Adele, we love you. Adele, they love you. I think she knows that we love her. Yeah. Yeah. And you. I think she knows that we love her. Yeah, and I'm pretty sure she loves you guys. She's waiting for us to surprise us. She will, oh, and please welcome Adele. Imagine, not got the budget for that. Jill did, she came in to do something for us a couple of, like a week ago and she said,
Starting point is 00:12:00 I know you're all waiting for Adele, but it's me. In the schedule it Hello, surprise act. What's that? In the schedule it said like surprise act, and we were like, oh my God, like it's Adele, like we're gonna get a performer. And then Jill just came in and did a quiz. Oh, but we love Jill.
Starting point is 00:12:15 No, it was great. Her amazing game. And she sings, I've heard, just as well as Adele. Jill and Adele, like that in terms of singing. To be fair, last night at the game, when we were going out at the halfway point, they were like, special guest, and someone was like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:12:31 it's someone performing, it's like, yeah, it's Charli XCX, did you not know? And it was the mascot, and she was really gutted. Oh, like the dress-up mascot. Yeah, the mascot for the, yeah, and I was like, sorry, I was joking. I mean, maybe she was in the crowd, we know. Wales is another tough game.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Yeah. And we need to secure another win. What will you and the team be focusing on in training for the next few sessions to kind of get you in that mental place to be ready for it? I think obviously it's like a derby game. So the physicality that like the need to be as we were yesterday, just like on it. And you almost want to try and suffocate the other team.
Starting point is 00:13:09 That's what we'll be trying to do. But I think we just want to focus on us. And we're growing in the way that we're playing football. If you compare France to the Netherlands game. And we want to keep stepping up our game as well. But the most important thing is we have like we've put ourselves in a good position we've got hope now you know like a little less pressure a little bit more focus can probably go on us and how we want to play but like it's it's funny because in the Euros 2022 we had Northern
Starting point is 00:13:40 Ireland like we always seem to have this derby game yeah tournament so yeah it's we know a lot of the girls they know us so it's about being like the best we can you know it's less surprises and more turn up on the day yeah absolutely do you feel similarly yeah I think we just need to be ruthless I'm loving these words, suffocation, exactly what we want to hear because we don't want to leave it too late, like we did against France. We would like it to be a little bit earlier into the game. But yeah, credit to Wales for obviously being here and obviously that achievement in itself. And it'll probably be cool because we know a lot of the girls as well. Be nice to have that moment as close rivals.
Starting point is 00:14:26 I feel like you can really tell the level of... I'm trying to think of the word of like, it's not decadence, but it's like you guys have this eloquence to you where you treat the other players with such respect. The game there yesterday, you're there and everything, it felt so safe and everyone's so happy and positive and I think that's that is something that you guys bring to your fans and to the team and to the to the to the whole room is kind of with you like I saw at the end obviously you guys with the Netherlands like having those moments like you know with each other and I just it really like shines through
Starting point is 00:15:00 the professionalism of the team and especially to come from the France game where it wasn't the desired result But to be like, you know, we're resilient. We're gonna do this We're gonna give it 110% and it's exactly what you did. So I'm really excited for Sunday I can't wait to be screaming in the stands as I was Terrifying everyone around me this poor I think they were from the Netherlands people sat next to me because they were literally like she was I'm gonna be deaf and I Was like, I'm so sorry, but I'm into this I'm here I'm here for a job and it's to scream the house down. Also I have to tell you
Starting point is 00:15:31 this right but one of the best parts of the game yesterday. I've got no idea what she's gonna say. No honestly this is gonna be out of out of nowhere for you so we were obviously quite close to the pitch and a couple of us noticed that a bird had flown in to the focus puller, which is like the cameraman sidekick. Sorry if that's not the right word, but the guy with the cameraman, a bird flew and was on him, sat on him for like four minutes. He had no idea. So he was so focused on you guys that he had a bird sat on his shoulder for the entire
Starting point is 00:16:03 time. Not sure a lot of people questioning on TikTok whether he was a Disney princess. It was absolutely mental. And then that poor guy was out there going, I just had a bird on my shoulder for ages and I didn't even really. He's absolutely gutted. But I did feel like it was almost like a good omen. It was like, it was like a funny, you say that there's in the
Starting point is 00:16:20 Jamaica game and then against France, which wasn't such a good omen, but I take signs for the long run. A butterfly, a white butterfly. The Jamaica game I saw it three times, landed on my boot when I was tying my laces. No! On your boot? That's loud! Yeah, landed on my boot when I was tying my laces and then like went off and then I saw it again. Well, I saw a white butterfly again against France and I thought... Yeah, a white feather landed next to Toonie against Jamaica.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Yeah. And she was like, oh it's my dad yeah but it was cute yeah that is beautiful yeah I think it's really nice when you have those signs especially with a loved one but you could every time I see a Robin I have the same thing I'm like yeah yeah I love that oh that's beautiful well that's the bird yeah let's call him Brian for now. Brian was there watching you guys. He was just chilling, soaking it up. Truly, he was in and out of the game as much as we were.
Starting point is 00:17:12 He was flying in the pit. I was like, I'm kind of a bit worried he's gonna hit someone. He didn't, he just chilled at the back. Also, I forgot to mention, so many of the incredible UK women's players who aren't playing with you this time were in the crowd last night. Beth England we saw, Kim Little, Missy Bo was there. Isn't it amazing to see like all of them coming out to support you? I think that's
Starting point is 00:17:33 the best thing like, I don't know how to, a tournament is just such a big thing to be at a tournament and to get to a major tournament, like to have luck on your side almost to for that to be feasible. That's what's almost sad. I think that we're in the same group as Wales because I think we'd be so a lot more supportive of them if we weren't having to play them because I think it's amazing. It's their first tournament at Jess Vischlok scoring the first goal like for Wales in a tournament. It's like a fairy tale. And I think that's what, when all the girls come and watch and it's because like, it's your family, it's your best mate. It's like me coming to Australia to watch.
Starting point is 00:18:13 There's no way I'd have missed watching you in a World Cup final. Cause you're my mate and I think that's amazing. Which I think is really lovely when they're all out here. It's like they want to spend their off time supporting us. So it's so much more behind it than just going to watch England. It's like proper family.
Starting point is 00:18:35 Yeah, it's like your mates. It's like you're showing up for your mates. And they were all so gassed to be there. They were so excited, brought their families, their partners, It was just amazing. The energy. I mean, I was meeting girls. A couple of girls came up to me who watched the pod. Shout out. From Australia. They'd flown from Australia. Fans of you guys. They were just like, we're here because we love the Lionesses. We love the girls. Like
Starting point is 00:18:58 we're just here to like support them and we can't wait to see what's going to happen. So I was like, that's mad. It's cute. Yeah. It's cause we're in such a bubble. You don't to see what's going to happen. So I was like, that's mad. It's cute. Yeah, it's because we're in such a bubble you don't realise sometimes what's going on in the outside. Of course. Like the same back in England, like I imagine pubs are rammed and like I know, yeah, just random stuff. Like the last Euros they were able to stay out later and open earlier and the things that happen just because we're playing football. Like all we want to do is put that little ball in the net.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah. Yeah, so many things behind it. And it's just really amazing to see how the game is taking everyone by storm and everyone is getting involved in football, people that never watched football ever before. And also the young on the plane here just the other day, so many young girls in full kit on the plane. I was honestly nearly crying. Your parents are probably having kittens thinking thinking I've got to wash that. Yeah, that's it.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah, that was it. We'll get to the game. Yeah, yeah. I want to talk a little bit, actually, about the determination and resilience that it takes and what the team has shown in the last week. You've turned around the fortunes in the group now, Leah. Where does that spirit actually come from?
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like, where do you gather it from? I think over time it's built as well. I was having a chat with Esme before the tournament started and she said like there's just something about us when we get to a tournament I'm just filled with this level of like baseline confidence of I know that we can. Obviously football's football, so much can happen. Good, bad. The other team could just be brilliant. You know, like there's so much that you can't control, but when we look at each other, we know that we've been to the places that we need to go to again. Do you know what I mean? But I think it's just built together and the experiences that you have and the connections that we have like we are
Starting point is 00:20:45 I don't know we just we value each other and we want everybody to feel good we want everybody to we also just want to have a good time like we come here to work but we want everybody to enjoy it and so we do a lot of work to make sure that we're having a good time off the pitch then when you go on it's like this is my purpose like this is this is why I'm here I'm gonna do it with like full commitment for everything I have to give goes to the pitch so then in that off time we are just spending time with our mates and taking it all in and and it makes you appreciate it I think a bit more as well. Well I think it's logical for any human being in an intense environment to need yin
Starting point is 00:21:29 and yang, light and dark. You need to have fun whilst you are doing something. Otherwise, what's the point? Like, I wouldn't be able to do my job if I wasn't sort of comfortable in my surroundings or had the right team or like everybody is the same. And so you need that. And it seems like the staff and the team and the trainers and Serena and everyone have got your back to the point
Starting point is 00:21:49 where they're giving you the opportunity to like have those moments with your family, have those moments in Switzerland, like seeing the sights, taking a swim in the lovely lake. Have you two done that yet? Yeah. It's amazing. It's lovely, yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:02 As a diving board and everything. Very cool. Georgia, what role do the players and staff play in helping you keep that winning mentality? Getting that goal in the in the net or supporting your teammates in the way that you do. A little bit like what Leah said before but like everybody's here for the same reason. Yeah, we've all got different journeys. We've got experiences from both club and country. Like we're coming into the environment where people have won leagues, cups, champions leagues and like we just have to kind of fit that all together. But everybody's come here for the same goal. So it's kind of everybody's got each other's back, like whether they're
Starting point is 00:22:39 playing or not playing, it's like you just want to push whoever's in that chance because somebody else is going to get their chance at another time. And I think with the staff it's they're always there, like if you need anything they're like come and see me, if you need extra nutrition, if you need extra gym, if you're unsure about something, if you're unsure about the tactics, the doors are always open, like just go and ask questions. Yeah because it's just as much about talking to each other as it is about physically training and being mentally. You spend more time talking than you do training.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Especially in a tournament, there's not much time you can spend on the pitch because you're either recovering from a game or trying to prepare for the next one and you have to be a bit lighter, for example. But I think we have an environment where it's about you take responsibility for yourself and you have to be accountable for your own behaviors but then you know that you've got staff on hand to literally like they would do anything for you but then you because you know that you're not you're not gonna like take advantage of it yeah you know what I mean so it's like when you really need something you know that they're gonna deliver but the rest of the time it's about, yeah, just taking care of yourself. We did a lot in the past, didn't we, where there was different staff delegated to different
Starting point is 00:23:50 talks so if you wanted a football talk or if you wanted a nutrition talk or a social media talk, these were your go-to people and it was like, yeah, if you want more information before we even get into this situation, this is what it looks like and then now we're here, it's probably just about refreshing. Yeah, and I think like what you were just touching on there, it's like the safety net is there that means you're not gonna wanna fall. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Like, cause you're like, oh, well it's there, I know I've got it if I need it. Yeah. And that just creating that safe environment means that everyone is like pushing themselves a bit more cause that will, if anything happens, I can fall back and someone's going to catch me. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:26 And revert to type, don't you? I was going to say, and this is what we wanted to create like our own type. Yeah. And the trust. So then if, if you need to have a conversation, we'll have a conversation as a group. And we'll think, actually, we think this is better for us as a group,
Starting point is 00:24:41 go to the staff and it's not, it's like, okay, they just listen you know what I mean because they know that like Georgia says we are all here for one reason everybody does everything they can to go in one direction and then the trust is there to listen so if we said are we need an extra hour in bed tomorrow do you think that's possible yeah it's like yeah do you know what you've got must be okay because that's what you're asking for. I would be asking for that every day. We do ask every day.
Starting point is 00:25:08 It's not always a yes, but you do ask every day. Yeah, I mean it having I'm a fan. I'm not an expert and being here It's been such an honor to learn like how well looked after and how incredibly I guess Organized and unique the training experience is. It's incredible to see, to be honest. Leah, what keeps you motivated when things, I guess, when you have to keep showing up 100%,
Starting point is 00:25:35 but even when you're hurting, even when things haven't gone the way the team wanted to, how do you keep that momentum keep showing up every day? I think the most... everybody will have a different reason and I think that's the, we do have chats about that as well. Like what's your why? So there's no point, my why, like just as an example, I missed the last tournament so I'm like probably a little bit more giddy
Starting point is 00:26:03 or like a bit more excited to be here because I know what it's like to miss out through bad luck kind of thing. So that's my why in one set of circumstances. You might have somebody that's never missed anything and their why is because they're doing it for the family or so you have to know those things about each other to then when times get tough it's like bringing it back to that. Obviously you're never gonna know everything about everybody but it's more yeah when you've especially if you've already had a bad experience it's a lot easier to be like okay today is tough, France perfect example no matter how nervous or whatever you felt before that game and
Starting point is 00:26:42 how hard the game was if I offered you a chance to do it again tomorrow, you'd say yeah. So it's like, if you know that you'd walk back into the fire, no matter how bad it was, why would you not then be better tomorrow? Do you know what I mean? Like to make sure you don't go back there. 100%.
Starting point is 00:26:58 Does that make sense? Yeah. I feel like I was talking about the houses there. No, no, no, it absolutely makes total sense because it's like, you wouldn't be here. You wouldn't have this like passion and resilience to be a footballer in on the global stage Yeah, unless you were like you said willing to get burnt and willing to walk straight back exactly. Yeah, Georgia What advice would you give to younger players out there who are facing challenges and how can they reframe and reset during the difficult times?
Starting point is 00:27:23 Um, it's normal challenges and how can they reframe and reset during the difficult times? It's normal. There's always ups and downs along the way, like nothing is ever smooth sailing, both in life and in the sport that you've chosen. I've always said not to put too much pressure on yourself, especially while you're young, there's so much room for improvement but also room for error and the times when you do make error I'm most likely the ones that you learn from the most So yeah, probably stick with it Don't put too much pressure on yourself and when you do that you end up enjoying things more and then you get more out of it
Starting point is 00:27:56 Yeah, it's kind of a sense of being present as well Yeah, definitely being where you are when you're there and I think that's what we have to be in tournament is like you can't get too high and you can't get too low because at the end of the day, there's another 90 minutes around the corner or there's not. So you want there to be another 90 minutes. So that's why tournament football is like, so. Yeah, we have to stay just a plateau. You have to stay neutral.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Yeah, because there's always another opportunity to fix it. And there's always an opportunity to fix it and there's always an opportunity to almost get over the hangover. Well, I think that you've proven that in this tournament alone by keeping that sort of level of mid, you're then not dipping like you didn't dip after France. In fact, it was anything but that, which means that keeping that medium is beneficial both sides of it because you're staying where you need to be to get to the next step, right?
Starting point is 00:28:47 Yeah, I think emotionally you can stay where you are, and it's also like a sign of strength to say, okay, look, against France, we weren't that good, but against Netherlands, we were decent. So like- You were incredible. So like, you can take responsibility for the situation without actually including emotions.
Starting point is 00:29:02 Absolutely. Guys, you are amazing, and if you guys want to know more about how football can support you and help you build resilience, search EE Squad, where EE is helping girls build resilience on and off the pitch. And as you can see here, we have got lots of incredible girls with a lot of confidence over here in Switzerland. Georgia and Leah, thanks for being such good sports today. It has been a pleasure to have you on that Lioness's podcast connected by EE.
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