That Triathlon Life Podcast - Finally, Trixie Mattel talks triathlon with Eric, Paula, and Nick

Episode Date: August 18, 2022

The most anticipated guest we've had, the world renowned Trixie Mattel joined Eric, Paula, and Nick on this episode. We started with explaining to Trixie what the Collins Cup is, then did a special version of the TTL spelling bee where Eric had to spell Drag Queen names, and finally we got to your questions about injury, staying motivated, and more! Head over to http://www.thattriathlonlife.com for gear and inspiration.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to that triathlon life podcast. I'm Paula Findlay. I'm Eric Loggerstrom. I'm Nick Goldston, and we have a crazy episode. First of all, Paula, who are you? Who's Eric? Oh, it doesn't matter, but I'm a professional triathlet. Eric is a professional triathlet. Nick is a musician, and we have a... Oh, my God, it's fucking Trixie Mattel. You guys are like, I'm a professional triathlet, but oh my God, a cross-dressor's here. Not just a cross-dresser, the cross-dresser, okay? We have the world-famous Trixie Mattel here for the uninitiated.

At this point, if you've been listening to this podcast, you've heard Trixie's name a thousand times. But for those of you who don't know, Trixie is a drag queen, one of the most successful, if not the most successful drag queen in the world, according to me. Winner of All-Stars Season 3 in Rupal's Drag Race. She's a judge on Queen of the Universe on Paramount Plus, a New York Times best-selling author, her show, Trixie. Motel is on Discovery Plus. She's playing Radio City Hall in September.

She just released a Billboard charting album, which I did some songs with her on. She has skinny legs and a bald head. Comedy, music, acting, dancing. What can you do? I saw these notes in your phone and I thought that was a typo. It is so cruel. Well, you guys, ever since Nick got a Grammy,

which I'm sure you barely talk about on this show because you're so modest. He really has changed. Nick used to be one of my closest friends, and now he's my biggest hater. It hurts. But I'm just happy to be here. I'm happy to be with, you know, paragon's of excellence in athleticism and Nick. Yeah.

I was going to say, you're mostly talking about me, of course. Yeah. Actually, Nick is actually in the best shape of his life right now, right? Yeah. And he still looks like Clippy from Microsoft Word. Just like bent up little angles and the big bug eyes. Remember Clippy? Did Clippy ever help anyone?

No, hey, do you need some help with that? It's like, not right now, Clippy, okay? I'm trying to cram for a paper that's due in three hours. I don't need your help right now. Do you guys remember that, Clippy? In Microsoft? Oh, come on. Remember Microsoft Word?

When we were trying to write papers, they were running. Yeah, yeah, I do. That little paper clip that would be like, did you know you can format your dot, you know? So helpful, that guy. Well, I wanted to start by saying that Paula is tomorrow flying. Paula is here in L.A. with me right now. She's in person. Eric is in Bend.

Trixie is also here in the room with us in L.A. But the reason Paula is here is because there were no direct flights from Bend to Slovakia, where she's racing next weekend, obviously. There are no direct flights from Ben to anywhere, except for L.A. Right. So she thought she would spend a day and a half in L.A. in between the two and just hang out and make the trip less brutal. So she got here last night.

This morning we swam in the ocean, and then she went for a run. I went for a bike ride. And she's flying out tomorrow to Slovakia to race this thing called the Collins, Cup. Yeah, so part of my reasoning for booking that direct LAV and a flight is all of the scares about baggage being lost, and everyone's been losing their bikes and their luggage and having

delays. So I thought the simplest, safest thing was to load my bike on one end and get it on the other end. So that is why I'm here. And yeah, I thought we'd just take a little bit of time to explain the Collins Cup to all the listeners who might not understand what it is. Trixie has no idea.

Yeah, what is it? It is. So first of all, it's nothing like a normal triathlon, right? No, basically there's six men and women on three different teams, and they're divided by region. So there's the American team, the European team, and then Team International, which is all of the other countries in the world.

And because I'm Canadian, I'm on Team International. And they're pairing us up, so each heat, basically, will have one athlete from international, one from America, and one from Europe. So it's one V1V1. So instead of normally Paula races And all of the pro-women Start together Whereas now she's going to be paired

Against one other woman from team Europe And one other woman from team US And just race them And the winner of the heat Then makes the maximum number of points So the whole event is basically like a team competition So if I win my heat I'll score maximum points for international team

So even if you blow people out of the water You have to hope that the other people do well as well Yes Oh Mike do like that? But don't you think that part of the appeal of doing the sport you're doing would be that you don't have to depend on other people doing well? Yeah, it's what makes this particular event very unique is that it is kind of fun to have a team aspect. Not necessarily during the race, but just the whole build-up. It feels like you're like in a college sport or something.

You know, you have this like support behind you. And although you're relying on other people racing well, they're the best athletes in the whole world. So you have a team backing you of five other athletes that are, quality athletes. It's kind of fun. Of the team of five, Paula was the top qualifier for team international. And so she might go against the top qualifier

for Team Europe and the top qualifier from Team U.S., but we don't know yet. Most likely she'll just go against someone who they think she has beef with. They really like to play up these things where they think, oh, you don't like so-and-so, let's put those two together and maybe there'll be a fight.

Do they really? Oh, it's a huge TV thing. They're trying to make a huge TV thing of it. 100% for TV. But like if you're going to to do well, you're going to do well because of your athleticism, not because some girl hates you. Right.

So, like, that's fake to begin with, right? It depends. Some people actually have beef and they really want to beat that other person. Maybe it's like in the movies when you're like in the recording booth singing and then you remember that you're in love and then suddenly you sing really well. Yeah. So like, if you need to stay

inspired out there, maybe it helps to be like, and you know what, that bitch, she did not like my tweet or whatever, you know. Maybe that helps. An extra layer of motivation. Can I ask without naming names, are any of these like supposed rivalries real? I would say a little bit. I could think of a couple that feel real.

Okay, name them. Well, first of all, here we go again. I said without naming names, you and Cat Matthews, like, you and Cat Matthews, like, it's the beef kind of, it's a joke more than anything. But between this podcast and the Pro Try News podcast, now there's a bit like, that would be a funny thing. And I feel like Holly and Ellie, there's a little like, that's interesting. People want to see that. I would love to see like Lionel and Sam go against each other. So, no, it's really not like anybody hates each other, but like that's the extent of it.

One time their podcast said, how good could Paula possibly really be? And we were like, real, real good. And there you go. That's your beef. Yeah, yeah. Oh, it's like my dad could beat up your dad. Yes, yes. Yeah.

But also there's your respect there, right? Because you can't really be like, if you care about. anyone at all, it means that you're, they respect you enough as an athlete to even have you on the radar, right? Yes. You can't be a rival if you're not like, well, that person could beat me. Yes. Totally.

And that's the feeling is like any athlete on any team could beat me legitimately. And it makes it exciting. Because these are all super, super, super top athletes. They're all like the best from each. It's like a mega compliment to even be. Yes. When you win an athletic thing like that, does it get taxed like lottery winnings? Well, it gets taxed like income.

Oh, regular income. So not as much as lottery. No, no, no. It's contractor pay. So it's, I mean, it is still a lot. Yeah. It's like a 1099. 1099.

When I won RuPaul's drag race, it's taxed as lottery winning. So the government takes 40%. So I only got 60,000 of the 100. Yeah. So winning RuPaul's drag race, that should be a million. No, I literally got 100 and the government took 40. So you're welcome. Yeah.

Yeah, anyway, that's good. I mean, I feel like, I feel like taxing. as income, that feels ethical, right? No? No, it is my income, yeah. It's how we make money. The lottery winning thing feels like bullshit. Yeah, that feels fake. Well, I guess with TV stuff too, it could...

But it's not a lottery. You actually earned it. I guess, but like, should somebody on who wants to be a millionaire be able to... That should maybe be... I don't know. Where do you draw the line? I see what you mean. Where do you draw the line, you know? Right.

Well, does that... Do you feel like you vaguely understand what the Collins Cup is? Yes, however, I have a question. Do you like that people are... going to depend on you or do you not like it? Oh, that's a good question. I think it helps. It adds this sense, like it makes me more nervous, but I think it gets more out of me in the race. And you're thinking about, I'm doing this for the better of the team, not just for my own result. In a normal triathlon, you could stop the race and no one would care. But in this race, you better finish and

do your best. Otherwise, there's a total team that'll be disappointed. So it really, even in the dark moments of the race where you're like struggling or if something happens or you crash, it gets you back on your bike to finish. And that happened last year. A few people crashed and they got back on their bikes and finished because it was a team event. So I like it. And how do you handle if somebody performs poorly, how do you handle that? Like someone on her team. Are you about to let that go? Are you like, come on, girl? You know? Yeah, it's everyone knows at this level that you have days. And I'm sure it's like that in your industry too, that you're not your best and we all get it. So if someone doesn't have their best day, it's very relatable and no

judgment, I would say. Plus it's probably easier to beat yourself up than beat up someone else, you know? Totally, yeah. Everyone already feels terrible enough if they do bad. Right. Yeah, and I feel like everybody's pretty motivated like by the ego or just like the storyline of our team winning versus like she said, like everybody's getting paid a set amount to come and everything. So it's not, oh man, I can't pay the mortgage this month. It's just like, well, well, it would have been really cool to be the winners. So, wait, I have a question. Does the Collins Cup try to, for example,

I would be interested in not just knowing how Paula does against the two girls that she's racing against, but how she's going to do against every other girl, since every girl is racing the same course, they're just going off in separate heats. Yeah, they do end up ranking everyone by time. They do, and they let the people see that too. Okay, that's really interesting.

The super, the interesting thing about last year was that there was this crazy storm that came in and like Paula got hit by it. Some people didn't. So yes, they're all racing but they're racing over the course of like an hour because you got to go in heat. More than that. Like four hours. Yeah. So theoretically like one person could be riding totally in the rain and the other person could be in like a tornado. Oh, my gosh. Right. Yeah, the elements are different. There's like a bit of right. And I'm sure you've noticed like running in the heat versus running in the cold, huge difference to how you feel, how fast you can go. So that also changes the race dynamics for the first people versus the last people.

If it's four hours, that could be like 10 degrees Celsius difference. Yeah. Not to be psychotic, though, sometimes I like running with hot. I mean, I don't know. Remember that time in Palm Springs? Did we mention that Chix is a runner? Not yet. I'm a runner, baby.

But we have some questions. And actually... Let's move on to the next thing. Yeah, we can move on to the next thing here. and I think this is, we have the segment called TTL Spelling Bee. TTL Spelling Bee. Wow. And I think we're going to do it this time,

but instead of doing it with triathlon words, we're going to do it with drag queen names. Oh, boy. So Eric is kind of like a spelling savant a bit, but he's never heard these before, so I think he's going to be especially bad at these. I would be surprised if you got any one of these right, Eric. I mean, they could have like an emoji instead of an O or something like that.

Well, good luck. You're already good at enough things. You know what I mean? We need to keep you challenged. Well, we're going to embarrass you in front of all of our listeners now. So the first one is Shea Kou-L-A. And Trixie already told me she knows all these people. So now you're going to be insulting Trixie's friends.

I'm going to go C-H-E-C-O-U-L-E-T. Not even close. Trixie, you want to see if you can guess it? Shay. Right. I like that. It's actually S-H-E-A, like Shea butter. Ah.

S-H-E-A, and then it's C-O-U-L-E-E-E with like the little French exsante goo. So I was like on the right direction with the French thing. Very nice. Very nice. I'm sorry. You're killing it. And then next one is Brooklyn Heights. B-R-O-O-K-L-Y-N-N-H-E-I-G-H-T-S.

I don't know. That was close. That was close. Do you know what Trixie? I know it. It's B-R-O-O-K-E-N-N-H-E-I-H-E-I. Oh, it is H-Y-T-T. I mean, so embarrassing. These are just like, these are just... This person hosts Canada's Drag Race. Oh, really?

I did spell Heights correctly. And I'm just like that I thought of Lynn for Brooklyn. You know what? I have good news. I don't think Brooklyn Heights is going to listen to this podcast. I don't think she is. No. I don't think she's too busy. Did you say she hosts Rupertall? She hosts Canada's Drag Race.

Oh, really? Canadian. And on Canadian television to get the tax credit, I think something like 90% of the people on the call sheet have to be Canadian. On Trixie Motel, I had to fight for executive producer credit because they were like, you're not Canadian. And if we put you as an executive, we might not get the tax breaks. I said, well, I am the producer, so you should put me in it. I had to force their hands. For Canada, though, to have it play in Canada? Yeah.

So, like, to get special Canadian tax breaks, like for productions, they have to use as many Canadians on set as possible. Because you can't fly a bunch of Americans there and call it a Canadian production. Got it. Oh, that makes sense. They have similar things with Canadian radio with how many artists they play that are non-Canadian on the radio. There's a specific ratio that they can't go over. Yeah, and Canada's drag race, all the lip sync for your life songs were Canadian artists. There you go.

It's like Averil Tegan and Sarah, Celine. So interesting. There you go. All right, next one, and maybe we'll make this the last one. This is one of Trixie's best friends. Katia Zamolo do Chil. I can't do it. Trixie, can you say it?

Oh, no, she's got a last name. Oh, yeah. It's Katia Zamalachkova. K-A-T-Y-A. Okay, so far that's so good. I mean, because I've seen that, but I didn't even, I don't even know what you said. Z-M-L-O-L-O-C-H-I-K-O-V-A. Uh, uh, Z-A-M-O-L-O-C-H-I-K-O-V-A.

That's a mouthful. That's a mouthful. I don't think I would have been able to do that. Right. There's a lot. that person for like a decade. Is that her real last name? Is that his last name?

No, that's like her drag name. Katia's like the Katie of Russia. It's just like a random girl name. Oh, I see. And I think Zamolachova was the name of a famous gymnast. Okay. Because she's obsessed with women's gymnastics. Okay.

There you go. What's Katia's name? We're both named Brian. Oh, he's Brian too. Everyone white has the same four names. Eric Nick Brian. Yeah, Eric Nick Brian. Thank God we have last names.

That's all we have. Well, I had some more, but I feel like I want to move on. But the other ones are just. just so everyone knows how great these drag names are. Gigli Caliente, Lagangia, Estrange, Monet Exchange, Plastique Tierra. These are just, there's so much creativity goes into these names.

There's some really good ones. One of them I always loved was Karen from Finance. Karen from Finance? Yeah, Karen from Finance. And then there's a girl named Lisa New Car. Lease A New Car. Very nice. People get so creative.

There's so many good ones. How did you come up with Trixie Mattel? I mean, I was in a production where they, I was in a production of Rocky Horror and somebody called in sick and I had to do drag for the first time and the character's name was Trixie. And then Mattel was just the manufacturer of Barbie. And at the time, I wanted to make a Facebook and you had to have a last name. So I just made it up. Although I was really close to being cupcake. Trixie Matel was so much better.

Yeah, I really lucked out. You know, I also, but like I had a parakeet named Bird. So like, I haven't always been so lucky in the naming department. I could have been a drag queen named drag queen. And also, she's kind of really famous, but Bob the drag queen is one of the best names, too. Yeah. His name is Bob the drag queen. Oh, really?

So funny. Yeah. I love that. Bob is... Just B-O-B. The guy's name. His name is Christopher. His drag name is Bob the Drive queen.

Oh, that's funny. Like Bob the Builder. So we'll move on to questions now. I posted a little bit thing on my Instagram story asking if anyone had questions for the Queen of Queens with a picture of you with the double fold of the vinyl in front of Paula. And so people had to know who you were without me saying your name. But we had a few people ask a question. So first of all, this is from Isabel Cody.

Trixie, huge fans, so excited for this co-lab. How did you get into running? Well, COVID started, right? And I used to run. Maybe the most I ever run was maybe a mile. And it would be on treadmills watching television. So, you know, different kind of running. And then COVID happened and I was afraid of the gym.

and my bike got stolen and so I had to go everywhere on foot and with my YouTube channel if I wanted to go to my boyfriend's house during COVID I was scared of cars or renting a car or anything so I would run pretty soon I was running all the time

running to the grocery store running to CVS it was like Forrest Gump like wherever I was going I was running and then I was like wow I ran to my boyfriend's house is 2.2 miles away

and I was like well how much is five and then I was like I remember I think when I did seven I was like well how much is a half marathon and Nick was like you should do Nick has always always wanted me to do running. And he's always bullied me into doing triathlons. And then pretty soon I did a half from my house in Hollywood to the beach here is 13.1. So one day I just ran it. Nick met me at the

ocean and then I was like addicted. I remember thinking how could anybody do a fall that was psychotic. And then a few months later during COVID, I just downloaded the, I downloaded the route for the marathon in Milwaukee and I went to Milwaukee, had an Uber drop me off in a bank parking lot 30 miles out of Milwaukee. And I just ran through like Trump country. By himself, by the way. Not supported at all.

Okay, how many times do you get stopped and recognized when you're running? Every day. Yeah? Yeah, especially here. Everybody in L.A. is gay. Everybody's in entertainment. People just scream out the window.

And you don't stop. No. I always yell the same thing. I say, tell people you saw me running. Tell people I was fast. Yeah. People will take pictures. Sometimes people will scream.

Cars will slow down and yell. people are really nice about it. Because if you see like a six-foot-tall bald man probably running a little gay, it's probably me. It's probably me. You know, and I don't know. You guys don't experience this because you guys have amazing form. When I saw pictures of myself running the half marathon, it was a completely different story than I was telling myself. I was like, wow.

And then I was afraid that I was going to accomplish something like the marathon and then like be done. But I guess, I mean, it's been like two years and I still run almost every day. And I just, I love it. It's my, I am so annoying. are lucky you are surrounded by pro athletes who want to hear about your running nobody wants to hear another story of me running in a circle i that's not true i love hearing about it i call nick and that's pretty much all nick and i talk about but um anyway changed my life and i'm obsessed with it and it's really annoying for everyone around me so but it's amazing for you yeah and you know i was exactly like

triathlon yeah and it made me a better performer better singer better comedian me working into my life it's It's giving me, people are always like, how do you do so much? It's because I run every single way. Really? Like just energy, mood, all of that. Yeah, even if it's like a little shakeout, just like a mile or something, I always find time to do something. Yeah. Okay, next question is from Karen, or actually Corinne, our friend Corinne.

What is Trixie training for? And how many hours are in Trixie Mattel's day she gets so much done? Hashtag hustle. To be honest, I'm training because I'm going to London. and the best way to see London is on foot. Last year I was training for the Milwaukee Marathon while I was doing Queen of the Universe. So I was able to do 14, 16, 20 miles on my weekends there.

And I could see all of London on foot, which was like amazing. So all year I've been looking forward to just being there and running somewhere new, temperate level of heat, strange-looking British people to look at, you know, just... I love running in London. It's just beautiful. I mean, running across the Tower Bridge, like, you're like, this is so cool. It's kind of a refreshing answer to say, I'm not training to go to this race and try to win.

I'm training so I can go to London and be fit enough to run 100 miles in a week. Yeah, because when I'm judging Queen of the Universe, I have a lot of downtime. And so it's nice on days off to wake up and have my only commitment to be like just running. Yeah. And just go pick a direction or a landmark. And I don't love out and backs. I like to end at a destination. So I'll pick like a historical landmark in London and be like, I'm going to run to that today.

And then Uber back. Yeah, an Uber back. I mean, whatever, it's kind of a waste of money, $10, $15. No, I totally support it. I hate own bags. Can you explain really quick what Queen of the Universe is? Queen of the Universe is a singing competition on Paramount Plus where myself, Michelle Visage, Vanessa Williams, and I believe there's a new judge, but I don't think it's been announced yet, but it's fierce.

It's... No way. I know. So I will take that out, right? Yeah. So we sit and we have these amazing drag queens who sing from everywhere. Last season, it was India. Australia, China, and it's a singing competition, and these people sing their faces off.

And I have to find something wrong with their performance to say, because they're all so good. Yeah. And my job is so great. I get to look amazing. Sit down in good lighting and tell incredible singers what I think they did wrong, which is so absurd because they're all so good. But judging, you're not doing your job if you're not trying to give them something to improve on. your job is to respect them by actually critiquing them earnestly and not being like there's cameras

you didn't do good like that's not helpful yeah exactly so if somebody didn't do well that day and everyone else did it does help them to say well just so you know everyone did really well today and you didn't I mean like are they all they're in drag and they're singers yeah okay okay and they come out and they sing and we have to tell them basically judging is you tell them what you think they need to know to win it's very easy yeah oh yeah you know it's not even it's not personal

it's just about, wow, if I was in their shoes, what would really help take me to the next level? Yeah. And they're singing to their idols, basically, the judges. And they're away from, these are local artists, they're way from their normal audiences, their mom, their boyfriend. All they have to go on is a studio audience and the judge.

Oh, so there is an audience. Yeah, it's like 300 people. Okay. And that's fun too, because TV is so weird when there's no one reacting. And when there's an audience, people laugh. It's more like, you kind of forget you're making a TV show. It's a performance then, really.

Yeah. Yeah. singing is unbelievable, but these people like blow the roof off every day. It's crazy. Now, okay, there was one more question. Someone said, would you ever do a relay triathlon where Paula swam, Eric biked, and you ran? Maybe we could do one of those celebrity ones. Well, the Malibu celebrity, the Malibu Triathlon has a celebrity division. And I'm assuming, no offense to anyone, I'm assuming it's not exactly. The Brad Pitt. Yeah, exactly. I'm assuming it's like somebody from trading spaces.

Well, like, it's sometimes like the cast from community did it. Or the cast from the office did it. And Rich Rohl did it. Right. What's his name? The high school musical guy who's like really shredded. Yeah. What's his name?

Zach Efron. Zach Efron does it. You know, it's like that kind of level. But that's pretty high. But sometimes it's like local newscasters. So you would be a huge deal there. Wow. Yeah, I'll do it.

I mean, the thing is, however. you feel about the performance of these professional athletes that you're going to work with at Collins, you need to lower that because I do about nine and a half minute miles and you need to be okay with that. We both need to be okay with that. We would be totally okay with that. I'm also happy to swim. And die? I can't really swim, so you have to be okay with that. Yeah. His death is to be on your conscience. Yeah. Well, great. So those are the Instagram questions. And now I thought it would be fun if we answered some questions that just came in through the week for from people who had no idea that you would be on the show, Trixie, and they're just triathlon-related questions,

and we're all going to try to answer them together, including you. I think that's great. This is the most, when I listen, it's the most interesting part of the episode. There you go. So, first question, hi, Paula, Eric, Nick, and Flynn. No Trixie here, but once they know that Trixie's answering their question, they'll be thrilled. It's too late. Love all your content and all formats.

No, you comb through lots, so I'll try to be concise. One question for Eric, is there any particular reason in swimming that it seems like most male pros are wearing the speedo slash brief style of shorts when pool swimming versus the thigh length compression shorts. Is it purely personal preference, question mark? It's 100% cooler and its personal preference. Jammers are just not cool in any way.

I agree. It's like what's, I can't explain why, though. Why is it? I also wear a speedo. I don't know. It's just not cool. It goes all the way back to being 12 years old. The only time you would wear the jammer length thing is if you're racing and it's like a technical suit that's actually faster.

Otherwise in practice, like, they wear out and they're like hanging on your knees and there's never a good looking one. They always, like, the speedo is the way to go and it looks good and, yeah, show a little leg. Looks good on everyone. I also think anything long shorts, it's going to show more penis

because the tension of it clinging to your thigh is going to pull the fabric. You know what I mean? It actually is more like immodest. I think it's a good point. It's more immodest. Just like the trisuits kind of do. Yeah, that's true.

Yeah, I mean, on those, like with the trisuit things, the little short things, you can just see everyone's penis. Yeah. I mean, you just can't. That's true. You really need a lot more structure to the jammer sort of situation. It would like need to be a speedo with the legs attached to it. Whereas at least on the speedo, it's just in there. It's not interesting to look at.

It just looks like underwear. Right. You look like a superhero. That's it. Yeah. Well, some of us look like superheroes. Some of us. This side of the room, not so much.

Super villains. We look like super villains. We looked like we used to be superheroes. We look like before and afters. Okay, great. Next question. Content suggestions. Hearing Paula drop F-bombs gives me joy.

I still smile and I remember her saying, why the fuck is it still cold and bend? Hearing a pro athlete bitch about training conditions are a workout so lovely and relatable. So I would like to suggest giving Paula a one-minute expletive latent rant on a recurring basis on anything training, nutrition, or triathlon related.

I want to hear all the bleeps, envisioning Paula looking at a bike workout and saying, oh, for fuck sake, fuck this fucking shit. Maybe it will be therapeutic for her and will give me joy. I love this idea. I think that's great. Not this episode, but I think we should incorporate that at some point. And you should just feel free to go off on any kind of rant you want, Paula. I'm also like, I'm more nervous than usual for the podcast because Trixie's here. Oh, you seem fine. I can't like go on a rant on something. Oh, no, I don't think you should go. I think we should

just incorporate this into a future episode. Okay. Why was she seen the Horrible Bend? I was in Bend for one day on tour and I went for a run and I was like there's this beautiful place called Bend and Nick was like yeah that's where everybody who runs goes and I was like oh I said I love that little cabin out here I opened up Zillow and I looked at the prices of homes and I said never mind yeah I'll take my impoverished self back to the gutter of Hollywood the houses there are so expensive I know well we got lucky I don't know we found a house that it wasn't that

lucky. It's not like it gave it away for free. I was still an expensive house. When we were buying, when we bought our house, like everything that we were looking at the time was, let's say it was a $700,000 house. It was going for like $780. Like our friends tried to bid on a house like a block away and it went up $250,000 over the asking price. And ours was like the walls inside were just this insane yellow, like this wild mustard but not a cool mustard yellow and it just made it not show well. So we got it for like, $3,000 over the asking price, which is wild.

People really won't buy a house based on the doorknobs. Because they don't realize that the doorknobs are what are making them not like. It's the same thing with music. People like, I don't know why I don't like the song, but I don't like it. It was because it was written by someone

doesn't know what they're doing, produced by someone that doesn't know what they're doing, and mixed by someone that doesn't know what they're doing. So the overall effect for you is there's no emotional connection with the song. Do you see what I mean with the Grammy? He's gotten so uppity. You know what I mean?

This is how you're going to be if you win if you win at Collins. It's going to be horrible down to here. Wonderful. Well, thank you, Ron, from Southern New Jersey. Next question is Hey, Paula, Eric, Nick and Flynn. Coming to you all the way from New Zealand,

an avid listener, road and track cyclist and follower of all your content. However, first time question for the pod. The question may relate to Paula more than Eric and Nick. Following Paula's running injuries, I've been battling rehab after breaking my pelvis, oh boy, for the past two years and now finally able to hit some

intensity in training and get racing again. I was wondering your top tips of some things that you find help the most when returning to training and most importantly, getting the motivation to train each day without being scared away from racing, which is where my injury happened. P.S. Keep up the awesome work. So this is especially relevant because Paula has been back and forth with ankle, which now seems to be doing pretty well. Trixie sprained her ankle. Sprang my foot last Friday. Last Friday. And I have a calf injury that I'm nursing.

And Eric is literally bleeding out of his head right now. So he says he's not injured. But that's just because you can't run with your head, although it does seem like he did try to run with his head today. So we get this question all the time, right? Or some version of it. But do you have something? Because I feel like more than any one of us, you have dealt with the adversity of injury

and overcome it more than we have. So have you found something that helps you, even mentally, to overcome it? Well, I've said this before on the podcast, and a lot of it comes down to being able to still do the other two sports. So you're injured on the run, you can bike or you can swim. So as a triathlete, that really helps you get over it. I feel like if I was a pure runner and I couldn't run, I would go way more crazy because cross-training is not as fun. But I always have in the back of my mind this knowledge that everybody gets injured and everybody goes through these times. and I've done it before and I've come back from bad injuries and had good races.

So you kind of have to have this belief, but that's not to say it's not difficult. Like you definitely go through times where you question why you're doing it. And especially me and Eric together, when I'm injured, he's not and he can still train as usual. So I'm seeing it happen, which is even harder. But I think in that case, it's just good to have some life balance and have running or triathlon not be your only thing. you can fall back on other things that you like to do if you're hurt. It's just hard because for a lot of normal people, the training, for example, like for Trixie, the training is what gives you that balance, right?

That's the one thing that you're doing that helps you stay motivated and feel good. So then when you can't run, it's like, oh, like Trixie? Yeah, well, 10 days ago, I, I sprayed my foot and I did it by falling out of my star trailer on set in my Gucci slides. So I can't even like garner pity. So then I get my foot x-rayed and they go, good news, nothing's broken. Tendons are all, everything's good. They said, unfortunately, sprains can be tricky because even though nothing's really wrong,

it might not feel the same for a few weeks. They said it's probably going to hurt a little bit for a few weeks. And then Friday, seven days later, I decided to be really cute to go do my little six miles because I was like, I feel okay, I feel okay. And then the next sale is like, oh. It still hurt. Yeah, so now I'm just to have to bike and, I mean, it's just. swim and then run at the end.

And then do travel. I guess for me, because it does give me balance, it's like, well, shit, where am I supposed to get this energy and, like, how am I supposed to go to bed exactly on time? What's going to regulate my life now? Yeah. Do you like the Peloton bike? Love it. I love biking on the Peloton.

I love anything that they do, but I like being outside. Yeah, that's different. You know. You used to bike everywhere, too. Yeah, I used to bike everywhere. I got my bike stolen. Yeah. But what do you?

I mean, I don't know. it's not easy and it's it has just as much of a mental tool if not sometimes more than it does that physical tool. I mean, like, I think the biggest thing for me is, is you look at it as like, hey, what else can I do to improve so that when I am able to run, I can come back and theoretically I could come back even better. Like Paula, for example, does ankle exercises. When I get injured, I like make sure that I do a bunch of core routine and stuff and kind of like try to figure out maybe what are some weak spots that now I can take that time that I would have been. and running and work on that. And like my mentality is always like, as soon as I'm running again, like, I'm going to ultimately have a better body and be more prepared and not get injured the next time. And that's like very motivating.

Yeah, I mean, for me, if I don't have the calorie burn, I'm like, well, I'm going to have to eat a lot less exciting life right now. But also, I hate strength training. And so while I was getting my foot x-rayed, I was like, well, I guess maybe this is the time to like just get over it and find a way to like it. If it's going to be like a month, let's say, I'm like, I guess I just better get really into that. You know?

Yeah. Yeah. For sure. Eric, do you want to explain why you're bleeding out of your head, by the way? What did you do today that garnered this gash? Well, I don't know. For people who were like older fans and stuff, I used to, I did a couple of films called Overland Triathlon.

And just the idea was that you're like doing a triathlon, mostly off road and like kind of crossing terrain in a more interesting way than just on a road and then doing a loop back to the lake where you started. And I kind of, since Paula left, I wanted to do some. something fun this weekend. So I rode my mountain bike here from the house all the way on single track up to the Mount Bachelor ski parking lot and left it with Heather and Wadi in their van. And then Heather and I ran all the way up to the summit of Mount Bachelor and back down. And then I rode back home. So it was like a seven hour adventure day thing. And on the way back down on the run, this is like

the gnarliest trail running I've ever done with these lava rocks that you're like scaling your way through and just one caught my shoe and I actually like hit my head on a rock on the ground amazingly. Oh my God. Yeah. But it's okay aside from the bleeding. I mean, I mean, I think it's okay. It kind of, it hurt and I was all the way back down. I kind of felt like I had a headache, but not like a deep one. So I felt like it was okay. And I don't know. It was the wildest thing. I feel like I'm really good at falling and I hit the ground and I was just like, I think I just hit my head. I actually cannot believe that I just hit my head. And then

yeah, I touched it and I was like gushing blood down the side of my face. But yeah, it all worked out. That's adventure. You know what? Based on the terrain though, that sounds like it could have been a lot worse. Yeah, I agree. I would think scraping up your legs or something would be a lot worse. The knees, the hands.

You definitely could have like tumbled down and it would have you would have scratched by every single thing you touched. The lava rock is wild. Oh my God. It was awesome. I was within like five minutes or like four minutes of the up and down

KOM by just running. Wow. And that was in the middle of your little... I was in the middle of my little cute duathlon thing, yeah. Yeah, cool. Cool. Well, thanks for that, Eric. I guess we're always worrying about you

and now we're going to be even more worried about you. Next question is from Jay. Dear all of us, a long-time listener, second-time emailer. I was curious, do you find in weeks a lack of motivation for filming or making the vlogs, and if so, what helps you break through? I find myself running into this a lot more than I thought.

And Paula, have you ever looked at Eric and thought, please no filming today? Love your show, thanks in advance. Nick, bonfortuna per your voyage to Iron Man in Wisconsin. That is clearly some Google Translate garbage, but thank you, I appreciate that. Hope I did it right.

I'm sure it made sense in English, but in Italian, you said, good of luck for your trip from Ironman in Wisconsin. So it's close enough though. Thank you, Jay. So Eric, first, like, do you feel like you lose like... I mean, I also find it very interesting that, of course, Eric, you do the vlog. It's a ton of work.

But Trixie also has, like, her hand in five pies doing the motel, her comedy, her music. I'm serious to hear about that. I'm interested in, like, both of you and Paula, I also want to hear about, like, days where you're just like, please, no camera. today. Like, I can't handle it. So, Eric, do you want to start? Yeah, for me, it's usually like Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, because I go pretty hard on filming and stuff like Wednesday, Thursday, and then I spend all, like, Friday and Saturday editing, and then Sunday to, like, Tuesday again is before, about the time that I feel, like,

creative enough to want to point a camera at anything at all. And just so everyone knows, Eric put, Eric and Paula put out a YouTube show every Sunday. So every week, they have to come up but some kind of story, something interesting that's captivating enough to be a whole show. And it's like between nine and 20 minutes, depending on the week. People don't understand how much goes into one video a week. Oh, it's so much. One video a week is very often. I know beauty channels that do like three videos a week.

I'm like, how? Yeah. Not just the editing. Not just the editing, but like how do you feel like sitting around and doing this three times a week? Yeah. You know? Do you get burnt out of being filmed? I go through phases.

Like right now I just went through a phase where I was filming a lot because of Queen of the Universe. So when I get inspired to do YouTube, I film constantly because then when I get over it, I can quit for like two months. Right. Because I'm usually like eight videos out in the can, six to eight videos in the can. So I just feel like if you're inspired to do it, do it right now. And then when you're sick of it, graciously move on. I mean, that's sort of why I have so many disciplines in like what I do on stage.

Because for a few months, I'll get really in a stand up and I'll get bored of it. and then I'll want to write some music and play with the band, and then I'll get bored of it, you know. Yeah. And you're talented enough and all of them to go between me. Also, Trixie and I are starting a band, just the two of us. I'm thinking a good name would be Run, Paula, Run. Or Run, Eric, Run.

I think Run Paula Runa, it tracks a little more. I think Paula is a little better for sure. Yeah. Again, I named a bird, bird once. So anything's up. Bird. Not even Bird-e, just bird. Do you guys, this is what also helps me.

Do you guys watch a lot of other athletes channels? because when I get bored of making make-make-up videos, watching other people's makeup videos makes me want to make videos. Absolutely not. No? Eric doesn't like it. I do. Really?

I do. Sometimes it's the only thing that, like, gets me back into YouTube. It's, like, watching more YouTube. The hard thing, though, like, Eric will watch ski videos or surf videos or some other creative artistic channel. But in triathlon, the options for channels that are as artistic as Eric are zero. It's people. People aren't even necessarily.

trying to do that. It's more of like a straight ahead vlog thing, whereas Eric goes a little more into like the cinematography and there's more of a vibe aesthetic to it. And honestly, I bet a lot of the content is speaking to first time. So you're doing your first triathlon, you know

what I mean? That's probably a lot of it. There is a lot of that. Yeah. Yeah. Most every other channel out there does a really good job of like information delivery. So if you're trying to kind of learn how a pro athlete trains, great. And I just, I've never been into that. So I make ours more about like the beautiful scenery and

just like try to make it more like a little mini film and so to get inspired in that way I need to go look at other sports it's the same way that like Ralph Lauren did their advertising whatever and then like Abercrombie and Fitch capitalized on that too which is like no we're going to advertise a

whole lifestyle and the clothes are just kind of a part of that lifestyle so I think what Eric tries to do is it's less about the needy gritty about the training and it's like look at this whole holistic view of triathlon and what it allows them to do. And like Eric does this thing today

where he's mountain biking and running up a mountain and running back. There's no race. No one was timing it. He was just doing it because he felt like it was a fun thing to do. I do want to say, just before I move on,

that Paula was watching Lionel's latest video about, I don't know, completely changing his training plan or whatever. Yeah. Talbot, who filmed that, he crushed the intro. The intro was, I was really impressed. It was beautiful.

I loved that. So just props to Talbot. There you go. Talbot's at first. He was the only other guest on this podcast. Wow. Yeah. When I was learning to use my YouTube cameras, I was watching a lot of channels dedicated

to how to use audio and sound. And of course, people talking about how to use cameras and lighting have the best-looking sounding videos. So you love watching those. Yeah. So they're engaging because it's like movie theater sound with cool backdrops and they're on a set that doesn't feel like a set. And you're like, wow, people just instruct you how to use your camera.

don't have to go so hard showing off that they know how to use their care of. That's so funny because Eric and I do watch those videos. Eric watches those too. Like the camera guy videos, we both love those. I love like review of a new lens. Yes. Yeah, totally. Really pornographic like macros of stuff.

Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Please go overboard. We love it. Yes. Yeah. So, and then finally, Paula, I mean, I know the answer to this question, but obviously you're such, you're like,

because Eric's behind the camera, you're so often the person in front of the camera for the show. Yeah. How often are you just like, oh my God, this? Like, how am I going to once again be on camera when I'm like so tired,

I don't feel like it? Like, does that happen? I think Eric is so sensitive to that. And if I'm in a bad mood or if I don't feel like it, he senses that he doesn't bring the camera out. Like, we know each other so well that he's super respectful of that.

And I also understand the importance of the vlog in our career and what it's brought to us. and our following that we have. So I'm more tolerant of the camera now than I ever used to be, and I realize it's part of our job now. So if it's out on a workout

where I don't really feel like it, that's usually okay. Yeah. And I think, yeah, I can put up with it a lot better. And people respond to honesty, too. I mean, on your own channel, if you say, I just haven't been feeling like being filmed or like this is a part of my training

where I really need to be in the zone. I think people also like that kind of honesty. Yeah. We filmed a few videos last year where I fully had a breakdown and was like not training well and cried. And Eric filmed it and I didn't know he was filming because he was like on his iPhone. And we had an amazingly positive response to it because it's relatable. Because as athletes, you have that all the time and it's easy to look at pros and be like they never have this. Every workout to win.

They always feel great and then race great. Not true at all. You know what marathons, how they have the camera spot and they'll tell people like this is when your pictures come Yeah. They should do that, but really send people a picture from like right after. Yeah. Oh, right. You know, but they tell them it's going to be a beautiful picture.

That's right. Just because I think you guys, you know, you should show people that it's not always. It's not a snapshot of the perfect times. It's kind of, it's a hard thing for me to balance, right? Because when she is having a hard time, like my first reaction is to try to be there for her and fix it or help or whatever. But it's like, but I also realize, man, this is a really good. moment that will paint the entire picture. So like trying to strike this line between I'm the filmer and I'm also the, you know,

the significant other and how to, yeah, it's tough to get that. But people I think, I mean, I did a documentary with David, moving parts. You could check it out. But people also can sense your relationship based on who's filming you. Like you filming the content and her being in the content. That's also a very intimate relationship that you're letting. letting them in on, just the fact that you're letting someone film you. Yeah.

Yeah. So even if you feel like it should be a moment where you turn the cameras off, it's like, letting someone film you is an extremely high level of intimacy. Yeah. Especially when it's just the two of you there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's just like, for example, if she like fell on her face while running and I'm just standing there filming it. I mean, like, helping her up off the ground. Yeah. It seems more like you falling down and hitting your face is more of the immediate concern. That's right.

We're all a little bit concerned about that, to be honest. Great. Well, next question is, hello, all of us. T.T.L. Nash spelled N. The at sign, dollar sign, H3. Sorry, Eric. Oh, my God. First, every, we encourage, or I encourage people to spell Nash differently every time.

And Eric is not the biggest fan of the word T.T.L. Nash. So we'd like to just rub it in his face. First, thank you. Your efforts in sharing your experience and adventures with us are truly appreciated. and can't wait to order the new T.T.L. sweater to support you. Keep on the good work. You truly have an impact on many amateur athletes' journey, including myself. So the question is, and we have a segment called This or That? And this person offered some This or That question. So, first of all of us, Harry Potter or Star Wars? Star Wars. Harry Potter. Harry Potter. Harry Potter. Sorry, Eric. B. Sox and sandals or sandals without socks. Oh, God. What kind of?

I mean, I got to say. Sandals without socks, of course. Sandals without socks. Yeah, socks and sandals. Sandals without socks. But you know, like Gen Z like socks and sandals. I know, I can't. I just can't.

I'm sorry. There's so much about them that I just can't get behind. What about you, Eric? Definitely no socks. Yeah, of course. Isn't that the point of a sandal? Yeah. I don't know.

It's like, okay. See, long sleeve with shorts or t-shirt with long pants or leggings. I think long sleep with shorts is weird. It's very weird. I totally agree. I think long pants with a t-shirt is totally normal. That's fine. I kind of like the shorts with the crew neckline.

Really? Yeah. Cool. Because... It looks good on you, actually. It almost looks like fashionable. It's almost like, okay, the mornings are chilly, but it's going to get hot. Yeah, but what about your legs?

But your legs can tolerate cold more than your, like, core. Interesting. Oh, my God, good point. Definitely, like, in sports. Definitely like in sports. Of course, if you're doing a bike ride and it's chilly, you're going to put on long sleeves and you're going to keep your legs exposed because they're going to be hot from like doing things. It's the same thing with running. You would always have like long sleeve running shirt on with shorts on, never the other way around.

That's true. I cannot stand wearing long pants. I don't care how cold it is. Have you ever worn tights to run? Yeah, sometimes under shorts, but like when I did the marathon, it was 46 degrees and I still wore shorts because I was like refusing to be hot. Yeah. My legs get so hot. It's the worst.

Especially in tights. Yeah, especially in drag. I wear like seven pairs of ballet tights. Seven pairs? Yeah. So, I mean, it's Mrs. Delfire. Oh, my gosh. Do you know what I mean?

Like seven pair at once? We should, when we were driving, I didn't remember when this came up, we had a this or that, and it was like, would you rather live, like, in Canmore, where we go in Canada, where it's like minus 27 degrees

and have to live there all year round or live somewhere where it's like 120 degrees all year around. so you're hot all the time. Yeah, have you guys ever run in Palm Springs? Yeah, I've been there. It's very hot. When we race.

Really hot. It's really hot. And that's where the motel is. Uh-huh. Paula won a race there. Okay, but it wasn't hot when I won it. Yeah, it was December. It gets unbelievably hot there.

Wait a minute. Can I ask a fitness question? My friend, who's a trainer, told me that when you run in the cold, you don't really burn that. You burn more calories than you do running in the hot. Is that true? Because your body burns calories just maintaining like a homeostasis. body heat, but I think the body heat that you generate from running alone is enough to keep you warm enough on the run.

He was saying, like, hot yoga is like a myth. He was like torturing yourself with heat, it's not really like you're testing yourself that much more. It's complicated because if you're going to race a race in the heat, it is very beneficial to train with heat because it actually has physiological implications on how your body, the biology of your body is. That makes sense. It's interesting and different. We don't think of it necessarily in terms of a calorie burn. No. As athletes, I don't know.

It's more like acclimatizing for what the conditions will be in a race. That makes a lot more sense. But that's interesting. I wonder if there's more of a calorie burn running in the cold. Potentially. I guess I understand the thought behind that, but the toll of running the fatigue toll of running in the heat is much higher. For sure. Yeah.

For sure. Drain's you. Is that what we had there? No, scroll down. Oh, right, of course. Okay, next one is Backstreet Boys or NSYNC? So this is, I'll say this, kind of divisive for me because I grew up

with Backstreet Boys and loved Backstreet Boys. I just never had the chance to get into NSYNC, but now when I go back and listen, it does feel like NSYN or the better musicians. We also had like Britney Spears versus Christina Aguilera, and if you go back now, it's like, oh my God, Britney Spears was a fine, singer. I don't want to offend anybody. But Christina

Gilaire is like an outstanding singer, right? I'm going to say neither and say Spice Girls. Yeah. I mean, I know that's not the nature of the game, but I don't care about boy bands that much either. Wow. Eric? Blink 182.

Yes. Yes. That's after either one of those. That's cheating. I also love Link 182, and I don't care who knows it. That's right. Coke or Pepsi? Who's picking Pepsi? Who's picking Pepsi? Who is picking Pepsi, jail. It's either of Coke or neither, is the answer, I feel like. The question is, are you the kind of person that goes to a restaurant and orders a Coke and they say,

we only have Pepsi? Is that okay? And then they say no. When you go to a chain restaurant and they carry Pepsi, my question is like, how much money did they give them? Yes, of course. Because that's the only reason. Yeah. No one wants this. Yeah. But if you order a Coke, do you ever order a Coke? Diet Coke. And if they have Diet Pepsi, are you fine to drink that or will you refuse? Oh, very good. Yeah, you'll drink it. What about you, Eric? I don't ever I mean the only time I ever would have a Coke is like maybe at an aid station or a race

And on a run, Do you know that they have they have they literally, Tricks, I don't know if you know this, they have very, very often as totally normal Coca-Cola on in marathons and in triathlons. Oh, I did know that. Yeah. For a lot of people they like the sugar and something about the carbonation settles their stomach. Oh, I actually do that makes a lot of sense.

Wow. Yeah. Next one, water before or after putting the toothpaste on. Oh, so when you're brushing your teeth, you take out the toothbrush. Do you first put a toothpaste on the bristles, or do you first wet the toothbrush? Is it gross if I just brush without water? At all. You never put out water.

That's the psychopath answer. I was going to say, your teeth are perfect. They're fake. They're so beautiful. I want fake teeth. Yeah, well, you've got to pay a lot of money. When you're at race and use it for teeth money. It's expensive.

It's expensive. Did you have to brush them still? Yeah, because, I mean, most brushing is for gum health more than bone health. Okay. $2,600 a tooth. Yeah. Oh, get this. I was on tour with my band.

Get this. And Corey, my bass player, goes, so I've made to ask if I go, what? He goes, what do you do with your teeth at night? He thinks he took him out? I said, what do you mean? He said, where do they go? I said, did you think that at night, I get on this tour bus, and I put my teeth at a glass? And I explained to him that veneers.

permanent appliance basically. Anyway, I was like, so we've known each other two years. You think I've been coming back here and like your grandpa pulling my teeth out? Right. Anyway. That was like a fake set. It's especially relevant because this other Canadian triathlet, this guy who's very popular, Lionel Sanders, he just was at a race and tried to bite the water bottle open and it ripped his veneer off.

Oh, Mike. And he kept running. And he kept running. And he still hasn't gotten it fixed. It has been how long? Two months. Two months. a little nub.

Yes. That's hard. Why? Why? I'm just so invested emotionally in this story now. I would get it fixed the next day if I could. Next day. He said he doesn't have enough time.

No, one of my inlays, like a crown fell out once in Australia. I was in Australia flossing. And they're like, how'd this happen? I said flossing, never doing that again. Yeah. It was you who told me to do it too, by the way. Yeah, but then you get this. I went to a dentist in Sydney and they had TVs on the ceiling.

So while you're in the chair, they had Netflix on the ceiling. That's nice. Yeah, that's cool. I couldn't believe it. That's great. Couldn't believe it. Every dentist office should have that. They make so much money.

They can afford a... You've seen that before? No, no, no, never seen it. Oh. Never seen it. I would love it. I never seen that before. Yeah.

I avoid dentist office like the plague. But also I thought... There's a hook in my mouth and all that. I'm like, if that TV comes down, like, final destination, like... Yeah, because it's an actual TV. Yes. Well, Alexandra, thank you so much for those very... Well, actually, sorry.

Let me just say. For me, it's wet the toothbrush first and then put the toothpaste on. You too? doesn't use water either. No, I do. I do water after the toothpaste. But you put, so you do toothpaste on the toothbrush and then you wet

both with water. Yeah. Okay, got it. Sometimes he doesn't use toothpaste. It just have all of time. Oh, really? Just brushes. Yeah, Jasmine crazy. Oh, wow. Wow.

Well, it's better than not brushing. If we're camping, I'm not going to, like, yeah, go track down water. I just go for it. Do you think sharing a toothbrush with your significant other is rotted? Oh, man. I'm not doing it.

Eric used mine once. Lost it on him. Lost her mind. I would have lost my mind. Thank you. But a lot of people think it's totally fine, which is fine. I don't think that's totally fine. That seems crazy to me.

That should be, you know, on a first date, you talk about like, do you want kids? What do you do for a living? It should be, would you ever use my toothbrush? Yeah. You know, and then you avoid conflict later. Right. Well, I was just like, I'm here I am stuck in this position where if I don't, Don't brush my teeth.

I'm just going to get five minutes of shit. And asking how my breath is smelling everything. So I'm like, man, maybe I'll just, like, go for it. And hopefully she won't notice. But I'll have a good smell and mouth. And I'll just clean it off really well. And then, of course, she's like, did you brush your teeth? I didn't see your toothbrush.

What did you wash your teeth with? Well. Oh, no. Cats out of the back. I cleaned it really well. And so it was worse. You are. There was an attempt.

There was an interrogator. that was the thing i'm like trying to ultimately do good but i just get you know can't win this is your this your villain origin story did you have that look on your face though like when you come home and the dog and the dog like knows they did something probably broadcasting i love that um okay well last question here oh you guys get a lot of fan mail oh this is nothing this is crazy one more question i think so i i think that's good no i think that's perfect we only have a minute left of the anyway nick took his pants off and it's time for Last question.

So to wrap this up, I put a call out on my Instagram for some questions, and I just have a few quick ones that I will ask Trixie. And the first one is, are there any other places in the world you'd consider opening another motel or bar at? Yes. Wow. Really? Yes.

Dave and I talk about it constantly. We want to expand our footprint in Palm Springs. We want another motel because we want something bigger, more rooms. I want another one. Bigger, more rooms and more. affordable. I mean, ours is purposely kind of luxury. We would love something more $200, $300 a night, which in Palm Springs

is cheap, and make it, you know, just more accessible. We want to open a bar in Palm Springs. I want to do one in Palm Springs, or I want to do one in Provincetown in Cape Cod. I want to do a motel in, like, I think a Nashville one would be really fun, kind of aimed at Bachelorets. Like a Yehaw

vibe. What about Vegas? You're at Vegas. I mean, you know, but we want to do more Palm Springs, though. We've also thought about doing how fun would a camp and Big Bear themed cabins and like drag queens are the counselors

imagine like adults doing like friendship where he sits in canoeing but then at night you do like little raves and parties Yeah very cool

Yeah That's cool So it's on your radar Oh yeah We think about all the time What do you like most about Performing and touring And what do you like least

About being on the road Oh Oh Oh god the second one If I only pick one thing I know The best thing about performing Is that

it's a it's your spinning a will every time no matter how good you are how experienced you are how prepared you are you never know how it's going to go you can leave the stage

feeling like you should literally go kill yourself or like you are the most amazing performer that's ever lived and is that based on the feedback you're getting from the audience kind of but it's also me

like sometimes the audience is fine and I just feel shitty about myself and it's just it's an uphill battle the whole time and sometimes the audience isn't living

but I'm just I'm laughing at my own jokes up there we have the same thing when we race Sometimes we race and it's like technically one of our better times, but we just didn't feel like we got the most out of ourselves, and it doesn't feel good.

And then the opposite can also happen to. Yeah. In Montreal two weeks ago, it was one of the first shows where I was so nervous that I wanted to actually run. I was backstage with my ears in and I was like, I actually want to take off running from a way, like it would just be gone and not do this show. Really?

Like I was like, if I could hit an ejection seat and not do this show, I would. And then it was like, as soon as I went out, there was a blast. Yeah. So that's kind of the nervous to go away. Yeah. And then the worst thing about being gone, all the time is, I really can't, I just have no life. I mean, I don't get to see a lot of my friends. I can't have pets. I barely see my family. It's hard to even be home and catch up by paying all

my bills, actually sitting down and paying them all. I mean, getting the mail, getting packages, anything that comes from being home, you can't participate in. Having groceries. Today when I get home, I have to throw out everything in my fridge because I'm going to be gone for two months. We'll come over. Good. You eat the groceries. Yeah, perfect. Okay, well, go one more. If you could give your past self-advice, at any point in time, what would you say to them? Oh, my God.

Don't fall out of your Starwagon in your Gucci slides. Great callback. Yeah. Great callback. Don't do it. Don't do it. And there's so many skills I didn't learn when I was younger because I thought they looked hard. And then I'm always like, God, if I had started stand up at 18, if I started DJing when I was 21, I mean, there's so many things I wish I had just had the balls to do younger.

Because you'd have that many more years. Yes, like, you know, why did it take COVID for me to take on things like learning how to operate cameras and do my YouTube channel or learning to DJ? I don't know why I didn't do that when I was younger, but... That's good, that's good advice. Well, where can people find you, by the way? What's your Instagram handle? Who are you on YouTube? Where do you want to direct people?

I'm on every single platform there is at Tricksometel. I'm very lucky I have to see on everything. T-R-I-X-I-E-M-A-T-E-L. That's the T-T-L-S-E-L-T-L-E-L-T-L-L. That's an easy one. Yeah. Sometimes there's running crossover. One time I tested an eyebrow product on a 10-mile run. Yeah?

So, you know, there's... Yeah. So sometimes there's some, you know, athleticism. I think it's just, I don't care who you are. It's extremely entertaining. Wait, can I talk about what Nick does when no one's around? Okay. Do you guys know that Nick has a secret, like, YouTube channel where he records, like, people running,

but then puts it up and never shows it to anyone? So there's, like, prolonged, beautiful cinematic shots of people running that no one sees. They're all private. it so I just send the link sometimes to Trixie, sometimes to Eric. And the views would be like, too, and I'm like, by the way, it's not people running. It's me going on runs with my friends.

It's like him running alone with his friends. But I'm like, you have a right to see this. The 17 views on YouTube? Yes, make it public. Let the people know. You know what, I get it a little bit. Sometimes like I'll film something and I absolutely love it. And then as soon as I put it up, I don't know,

it loses something. And I'm like less happy with it. Yeah. What's funny now, it's like I'm a little bit, because of my relationship with Eric and Paul now, I do feel like I'm a little more careful about the things I put places because it represents all of us a little bit now. So a funny little video that I make with my friends on a trailrun with a GoPro,

I feel like if I'm going to put it out under my name, it's like, wait a second. So Eric and Paul are friends of this guy who makes these like kind of half-assed videos. You know, I want to make sure that things are up to a certain standard. Oh, my, Nick, Nick, when you send me the links and I watch them, I just all of a sudden get real self-conscious about what the garbage that I put up every week and that I'm in such a... Oh, please. Oh, please.

You'll be, like, editing this Yosemite hiking video for, like, two months, and it's just the... Every color and every shot is just so... They are so beautiful. Yeah. I'm just like, I need to go back and, like, learn to do colors. And I'll be like, Nick, is this for a brand? Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

I just, it's just very fun for me to do that stuff. And actually, right now, I'm working on... Are we allowed to say this, a lyric video for Trixie? Yes. For our song that's coming out on, well, it'll be out by the time this comes out. It's a song that Trixie and I wrote that Trixie performs featuring Michelle Branch, who if you guys were our age, you definitely know who she is, yeah. Because you're every one to me.

Grammy award winning, Michelle Branch. Oh, there we go. Your colleague. Your colleague. I have one more question if you guys have time. Yes. Is it being a pro athlete like you guys are and dealing with like, brands and sponsorships and people inviting you to compete in these like, you know,

it's an honor just to be nominated style like events. Is it like Miss America where you guys have to be like squeaky clean? Like in your life, if there was like a picture of you, I don't know, drunk at a bar, or if there was, I don't know, I'm not going to say dog fighting, but like, you know, because you guys have to worry about like the image. Like does it have to be sort of all American in that sense? I think there's definitely more scrutiny and eyes on you and you do have to be careful. And there's some examples of some Olympic athletes who have kind of gotten in trouble for saying something that was a little bit out of line.

But I think our personality naturally is a little clean. Like we don't do very off. It's not just you guys, though. Triathletes in general seem to be. So we've never really had an issue. They don't just pop off like that very often. They're pretty like one-dimensional with triathlon. In terms of triathletes, I'd say we're more dimensional, but not in ways.

that might get us in trouble. Yeah. But it's a good question. Or like, you know, being, like, do you choose to be more politically, let's say, like, closed with. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting.

That's cool. Do you? Well, Trixie gets canceled like once a month. Yeah. So. Yeah. So. Yeah.

So, she has millions of more followers than us. I just didn't know if you guys had to sort of think of everything like, you know, Vanessa Williams getting her Miss America thing revoked for being photographed topless ones. It's like, not that you guys get photographed. Well, you guys get photographed. Well, you guys get photographed. Topless all.

It's all the time. There's a million cameras on them. But yeah, no, it's a good question. It seems like the triathlon audience is still like it feels like a grassroots thing. So there's not this immediate need to like judge people so quickly on it. And still for most people, until recently, it was really just based on your results. And Eric and Paul are a part of this social mediaification of triathlon where now so many pro triathletes have. YouTube channels where they post frequently on it.

But that's a relatively new thing. Yeah. And like most other people, like we said earlier, their YouTube channels are pretty exclusively their training. So it's like you're not going to, there's no opportunity for you to talk about the president or whatever. Like as you're lacing up your shoes to go for a run, it just,

it would feel so out of place. And I feel like it's still the same thing for us a bit. Like it just, it doesn't come up. And a lot of times, like, I don't know, a lot of times I feel like people watch our show to like kind of

to get lost and enjoy and like be in a different place and have fun and if we you know just start talking about politics or or something then I don't know it's like that's people follow different accounts for that I think it's kind of like how it feels well I cannot believe this has finally happened I think we talked about this on episode one and it just come up I feel like it feels like every episode yeah feels like every episode we finally got the world famous dare I say infamous Trixie Mattel on the podcast. This has been extremely exciting. The fact that Paula was here in the room with us, too.

So cool. This is the first time I've met Trixie in person. Yeah. Well, I love following you guys and I love your pod and I love following you guys. By the way, Trixie is wearing a TTL hat right now. Just I am. I'm going to take a picture of us and I'll post it. Great.

So thank you guys so much for listening. This has been a phenomenal guest experience. Trisci, you are welcome back anytime you want. Woo-woo! Thank you. And we'll see you all next week. Bye. Hi, guys.

Bye-bye. That little girl voice at the end. Bye.