That Was Us - Happy Birthday! | "Three Sentences" (S1E13)

Episode Date: August 27, 2024

Young Randall didn’t care that only three friends showed up to his birthday party. He was happy that his three good friends were there to celebrate with him. All his life, William dreamed of driving around in a cool car, with his favorite drink, listening to his favorite record. How special that his son was able to help make that dream come true. Sometimes, life’s defining moments aren’t grand. It’s a shift in perspective, the little things, that define who we are and impact our lives and the lives of those we touch. Join us as we recap and reflect on our own birthdays, parenting stories, and more. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On today's episode of That Was Us, we'll be discussing season one, episode 13, three sentences. Jack and Rebecca try to throw Kevin, Kate, and Randall three separate birthday parties. Randall helps William fulfill a lifelong dream, Kevin realizes who the love of his life is, and Kate goes to a weight loss camp. Greetings and salutations, friends. Hello, here we are. Good day to you, sir. Good day to me as well.

Good to see you both. Always great, Amanda Lee. Always great, Christopher. It's always good to be seeing and talking to our fans who are hopefully rating, reviewing, subscribing to our YouTube channel, to wherever they get their podcast and helping us spread the word.

word so that we can keep bringing you these episodes that we love to make content we do we do we want to keep doing this there's all kinds of story that's going on uh we'll we'll save the reveal of the three sentences and where it comes from but let's just talk about in the past jack and rebecca preparing for the kids birthdays i think they were having a little bit of amorous time to themselves at the beginning of the episode sure and then there's a barging in from the from the twins from kate and from Kevin saying we want our own birthday parties this year. And we've just seen a montage of beautiful times of celebrations for Jack and the kids that are family friendly.

There's pin the tail on the donkey. There's a special sort of three-layer birthday cake that Rebecca makes every year. Until I had watched, when I watched this one, it just reminded me like it really solidified. I'm like, oh, right, this is also Jack's birthday. Yeah. It slipped my mind until the very end of the episode. Yeah.

Oh. Right. Yeah. Because Jack is not thinking about himself ever. I mean, how can I do this for my kids? How can you when you got three of them to worry about? Yeah, three. It was honestly not until the end of the episode when the kids present him with the banner of like happy birthday dad.

And I was like, it's this man's birthday too. And he's been running around like a chicken with his hair cut off just trying to make things right. And not only they're going to have three separate birthdays, but it's going to be three separate birthdays, but it's going to be three. separate birthdays in the same house. Yes, three separate themes. Which I want this entire episode to just be Mandy talking about what those days, multiple days on set were like, with how many children? 25? Many children.

30 children. Many, many children. Before having any children of your own, too. It's just like, there's a lot of children. Which for anybody who doesn't know, like, how making a TV show works, when you have 30 kids on set, you all also have 30 parents on set. Yes. Like it grows, like the number of people.

And you are under a time constraint to make these episodes because these children also are required to be educated. Yes. Rightly so. They have a teacher there. There is a mandate on how much they can work, how long they can work before they need certain breaks, obviously, which makes total sense. So yes, the confines of shooting an episode that has many children in it makes it

exponentially more difficult. You now legally have to feed them. Yes, you have to give them. You have to feed all of us. You have to give them water. I mean, different times. They're allowed to go to the bathroom. It's different times.

There is an adage in the business about sort of like kids and animals, right? In terms of like, the show thumbs its nose at all. It's, it's not. So there is like the unanticipated that comes with kids and animals because you can't always get them to do exactly what you want them to do when it happens. to do when you want them to do it. But there is a delightful spontaneity that also sort of keeps you on your toes. Yes.

It's magic. I had wondered, obviously this comes later, but I had wondered if Dan had something against us when Toby and Kate got a dog. I was like, okay, now there's a dog who also has to act in these scenes? Yeah. Yeah.

Anyway. I digress. So anyway, they come in, they want their own birthday party. Keves is, the theme is the principal. Princess Bride, my favorite movie growing up. Yo, hello, my name is Enegromentoia. You kill my father, prepare to die. That joint is off the chain.

I love it. And so I didn't even blink an eye. I was like, yeah, Princess Bride is a good party to do, right? Kate wants a Madonna-themed party. And then Randall comes walking in, and they're like, hey, man, do you want to have, like, your own birthday party? And he goes, in the cutest way, can I have a magician? Yeah. He's like, yeah, I'm in.

Yeah. And he walks right back out. Randall's like, I got grades. I got things to do. You get this party together. Not concerned with the birthday party. We'll be totally fine, right? So, seeing you guys put this together, it reminds me, because I have a son who's about

to have a 13th birthday party like tomorrow, right? At your house? No. Where are you going, if you could say? My wife is renting a house in Malibu. Oh, 13. So he's having a 13th birthday party that Brown could never have conceived of in. his life. What'd you do for your 13th birthday? Had a sleepover at the house. My brother and sister

helped make the lasagna, which was my favorite food at that time. And we just kicked it real hard. What'd you do for your 13th birthday? I don't even remember. Played a sold-out stadium. No, no, no, no. That was way, way, way before that. Definitely like, yeah, a special dinner or something and maybe a sleepover. A sleepover is like a big deal for me. I think I had a, I think it was 13. Yeah. I had a limousine. Oh, okay. It was like a big, it was like a thing. And I was a competitive tennis player growing up, right? And so it was essentially, I didn't have a social life outside of tennis. So it was just all my tennis friends. It was my first birthday party with boys and girls. Okay. That I can remember. That wasn't just like, you have to invite everybody from

your class. Right. And we all went, we all went to Chevy's. Remember Chevy's? Bro, sizzling that's right come on that's right uh there was i mean there's balloon animals sombreros i mean probably pretty problematic um and then i and then we went to see we went to see here we go went to the movies yes and we all went and saw city slickers too oh city slickers is great movie yeah yeah that's a good birthday bro it was it was it was a good birthday i hope my kids is as memorable as yours that's that's that's pretty awesome sounds like it will So, okay, anyway, the parties are happening. And what I am sort of struck by is this idea that you want to make sure that everybody's

having the best time possible, right? As parents, you want to make sure that the special moments are special, right? And so you see, the Madonna's are kicking it, they're having a great time, Kev's having a great time with the Princess Bride thing. And we go out to Randall's party and there's like three people there. Including the magician. the magician and randals are kicking it but they're like uh why there's nobody at his party so he bring randall over and they're like hey man like you're having a good time he's like yeah yeah

a magician's really good yeah it's so cute it's so cute he's completely unbothered completely unbothered because not because not my friends why didn't everybody else come to your party and they're like no because these are my friends and they're like he's so comfortable like, no, these are actually the people who I wanted to show up, who I knew would show up for me. When he said, I have three really good friends, like, and he was so, he's like, that's all I need, basically, like, how great is that? And they all came, they all showed up. Like, he was perfectly satisfied. Totally. It melted Rebecca and Jack, and it melted me to watch too. I was like, oh, that's all, like that kind of contentment. Like, you can't teach that. Like, that isn't, that

is who Randall is at his core. And not to jump in and like take over this conversation, but the realization that that kind of spurned in me was like, oh, this episode is showing us like the beginnings of who these children go on to be that we see sort of illuminated in the rest of this episode and moving forward in the series, it was like, oh, Kevin is a ham who needs the attention and who's fighting for the girl. And all through heart melting moments. Yes, and Kate inherently, like, when dad used to be able to remedy whatever sadness

and turn her front upside down, that she was experiencing, like, this was a real visceral moment where that didn't work and probably would no longer work moving forward. He couldn't give her a shirt at the pool and make up some magical tale about where, you know, the story behind where the shirt came from and sort of like flip everything on its head. God, he tries. That vogueing scene. He is beautiful. I was like, oh, this is the start of sad Kate, of unfulfilled Kate, of just this deep.

And you see those flashbacks to the pool and all of these things that had her looking at the tag in her her shirt versus her mother's shirt. It was just like, oh, wow, this is a real pivotal turning point for all of these characters. I just, I was like, I was very struck by rewatching it. For sure. I mean, there's also this idea, going to that Kate scene with Jack in particular. I feel this as a parent. I'm wondering if you guys have gotten to this place. I think probably. You want to shield your kids from life, also recognizing that you can't. Like one of the things, the lessons is sometimes you have to touch the hot stove to realize that it's hot. And we're like, don't touch, don't touch. But really, they're not.

gonna get it until they experience it for themselves. You know what I mean? Yeah. And that's the weird thing about being a parent is like you're trying to protect. But at the same time, you actually just kind of have to create the space. So like when you do learn that lesson, the fall isn't so bad and you recognize that you can get back up and life continues to move forward. With toddlers, it's literally the fall.

I'm constantly like trying to let, let EFA fall just enough to learn. Please don't climb on that. Yeah. But also I'm catching her. her halfway down. Yes, to not break something. Yeah. Real quick side story, because it's a great example of this.

One of my best friends in the world, his name is Lamar Baker, and he is a judge here in L.A. We went to Stanford together. He tells this story about how he would wear cape when he was a kid, and he put this cape on, and his mom would say, what are you doing, big guy? And he's like, I'm about to go flying. And she's like, really? Where are you going to go? She's like, ah, just fly around the cities from San Francisco.

I'm going to fly around the city for a little bit, and then I'll come home. I just feel like it's time for me to fly. He was like three or something. And she's like, I can't wait to see, hear about your experience. Like, do me a favor. Like, get on the couch and, like, fly around the apartment for me just a little bit. So I know that you can handle it okay. And he's like, okay, fine.

He got up on the couch. He began to fly, fall flat on his face and started crying. And she said, you know what? That's okay. That's okay. You keep practicing. And one day, I'm sure you get it. But just stay in here and do it first before you take it outside.

All right, mom. Hot take. hot take. That's really good, isn't it? That's some parenting. Yeah, 101. Hall of Fame. I love that joint.

I love that. I like that had to share that because I thought it was apropos to what we were going through right here. They all enjoyed a birthday, right? Kate has an, all of her friends start to migrate towards Big Kev. Because it's really interesting. When you see young Parker sort of holding court, like even me, the little girl inside me is like, I get it.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's completely charming. He's in his element, like he's holding court. Yeah. Right? Then you see little moments like, because Sophie is her best friend. And you see moments of-

Which I had forgotten. Which we, yes. Yeah, I had forgotten that connection. Easy to forget. And she's just checking them out, like, okay, this is cool. At the end, like, Rebecca and Jack come over and like, hey, big guy, nobody's in your sister's party or whatnot. Like maybe you should let some of them go.

Like, Sophie's her best friend. Why don't you encourage you to go? And he says, with... says with complete and pureness, I says, I can't. I love her. Boom. And that was my crying moment for this episode. Boom. And so let's tie it in to

present day. Kevin, who goes out and has a day. Toby leaves his fiancee, which is really cool, because she's gonna go to this camp for weight loss, for health and fitness, et cetera. An immersive experience. an immersive experience. And so he's sort of in the city, and he winds up hooking up with her brother.

And they just have a day kicking it. I'm always sort of delighted by Toby's excitement and proximity to celebrity. Yes. It is my favorite thing, because it is so real. When I go home, like all the stories of the people ask and like the sheer giddiness of it all, you encapsulate delightfully.

And there's a, there's a sense. celebration that he has that has no shame none but but that is is he walks the line to where it's like in my opinion like my my dad yeah my dad here's what my dad likes to do okay he likes to follow me when we're in public maybe like five or six feet behind and if he sees anybody go is that is that he goes it is it is we all in the same family it is it is and and will sometimes Call me back. Totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Come on back. Totally. And Toby has the same kind of like, he's, he's, he's in all. I love your dad. That this is a thing, like that, that. He gets to be around Kevin. And how different Kevin's life is. Yeah.

And real quick, before we get into the story, I don't know if you guys notice my hair in this scene. Wait. It's all messed up. Is it? Is it? I remember sitting in the makeup chair being like, Toby's into this day. And he's trying really hard. And I have.

I have so little hair, but I, like, gelled it, and it made me laugh that, like, he, like, tried to, like, go, just take a peek at the scene where they go to that bar, the rooftop bar in the middle of the day. And my hair is, like, must. Like, Toby was, like, ready to go out. He put some product in. And when I saw it, it made me laugh. I miss. I will check for it on my next viewing of it. It's clearly not that noticeable because you watched the episode and it went right by.

But sometimes the thing that mean the most to us, there are our own little secrets. There's a few coming up. There's also like when you watch a show with the makeup artist, all they talk about is makeup. Oh, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You watch it with like stunt coordinators. Anyway. This is also the first time that Justin and I had been alone together.

Like in these scenes. And we had a real hard day. Because you're cracking each other up constantly. You can see it in the coverage, because there's, they're editing around like me. You laughing, him laughing. There was like a whole moment where both of that would be like, okay, stop. We're going to, we're going to focus it up because he, he just, I don't know, there's a twinkle in his eyes. Yes, there is.

Oh, there is. When he gets super sincere, yeah, that just gets me better. Yeah. And I'm also just like, like this with him. And he's like getting me. Yeah. I had a good day. I love the line, too, that he had never seen Notting Hill.

What? What? More we learned about Toby, just his love for romantic rom-coms. So this is it, because what Toby is expecting and what Kevin has to give him are completely two different things. Kev is trying to figure out his life, right? And he's like, you know, there's these two women that, you know, whose company I both enjoy and I kind of feel like I keep messing it up or whatnot. And you're like, hey, man, you've come. to the king of romantic gestures.

Like, I got your back, right? I don't know much, but I know how I love you. But I know how to do a romantic gesture. And that may be all I need to know. I had to finish. Lawsuit. Instant lawsuit. Definitely can't clear it.

They'll be like, what do they sing? It's unrecognizable. And so you come up with this thing. It's like, look, you can't half-ass this. You can't come up to. to any person. It has to be the love of your life, right? You get three sentences. It's imminent. What are they? One shot. What do you want to say to this person? Do not miss your chance. You know what I'm saying?

That's it. We can say that much in clear it. And so we're wondering who this person is. Who is he going to choose? Because he immediately knows. He's like, I got it. I know. I know who it is.

And you're like, oh, is it Sloan? Yeah. Is it Sloane? Olivia? I was like, please don't let it be Olivia. At that point in time, I was like, if you go back to her again, I'd, Randall will come and be like, hey, yeah, stop. Now.

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and he knocks on it and it's someone that we haven't met at this point in time in our life but it ties to the past because we know that it's so... Do we know that it's Sophie? Not yet. At the end of this scene

he says her name. Yeah. Right. And in the early birthday scenes somebody calls Sophie by her name. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you would really have to be... We have made that connection.

You would really have to be paying attention to the kids scene. Right. To know. Because I think it is Parker who says it, right? Something about Sophie? Yeah.

Or Kate, maybe. Or Sophie's here. Sophie's here. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The name gets thrown out a couple of times. Yeah. But then Justin Hartley, as Kevin Pearson, proceeds to deliver, like, one of the greatest run-on sentences

in the history of English grammar. Because he says it all, and he'll hit a and. You know what I mean? And he does the punctuation so that his three sentences don't run out. comma, colontheses. Yeah. You look great. Close parentheses.

Yeah. And before we got to this episode, Chris and I were just saying, because now this character is introduced and this actor, Alexander Breckenridge, I have a crush. I think she's one of the most adorable, sweet, grounded human beings and sort of like a wonderful choice to, like, it's easy for Sterling to root for Kevin and Sophie. Because of her. She's great.

We find out then, too, also, that they were married. So we never knew before. Yeah, lots of information. Lots of information. What is my ex-husband doing here and da-da-da-da, and you're like, oh. Haven't seen you in 12 years. Haven't seen you in 12 years. My note just says, Breckenridge is a treasure.

That would be on the DVD box set. Yeah. So it's our introduction to her. But you instantly, because of the way that it's set up in the past, you're like, I want to see more. Yeah, who is this person? He was married? Yeah.

What happened to the marriage? Like, all these things sort of pop up and you're like engaged, okay? Does anybody have Alex Breckenridge is we should just call her. Let's just call her on the phone. Just cold caller? I can get it. I'll get it. I'll get it.

We're Instagram, by you. We'll have her on the podcast. I love her. Oh, my gosh. She has a podcast. I'm sure she would come on our podcast. Absolutely. Have you been invited?

I haven't been invited. No, no, I haven't been invited. I just follow her on social media. Call, Brack and Redmond. Me too. Kate meets with the doctor at the beginning of this episode. Yes. The doctor's the one who says,

have you considered an immersive experience? Instead of surgery. So she fails on the surgery. Yeah. Instead focuses on this camp upstate. Right. Still in New York, obviously, because Toby's been recovering. They're still in the East Coast.

Yeah. And they go to the, I wrote like fiancé, exclamation point, exclamation point. Because even though it was discussed in, two episodes previous, not in 12, but in 11, I forgot, I was like, oh, yes, they did discuss that. A technical proposal. A technical proposal. There was no ring. There was none of like the pomp and circumstances normally around that. But nonetheless, it was, it's beautiful and they're both very excited. Yes. So she goes away to this camp. She goes away to the camp. And this is where we,

we meet, uh, or she meets Adam Bartley, Duke, who plays Duke, who plays Duke, who plays Duke. Duke. Not a fan. So not a fan of Duke. No, Adam was lovely, I think, I don't know. Adam is a lovely. Because Duke is a dick. Yes.

Duke, that is how you spell it. You spell Duke. D-I-C-K. D-C-K. Yeah, not a fan. I was just sort of like, wow, I don't like you. Yeah. It's interesting too because, like,

Chrissy Metz is so transparent. That like, any time he said a line to her, Chris would be like, she'd be like, why are you talking to me like that? Yeah. She was so offended. And I was offended for her, too. I was like, how wildly inappropriate. Yeah.

And I'm not sure if it was this episode. I think it's a later episode. He comes to understand. He's more wild, but we understand the root of his entitlement, shall we say? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Before we get too far into her experience at the immersive experience, there's a short driving scene. in this where we're going to the camp and we were up in Griffith Park somewhere

shooting, driving around with the whole crew spent the whole day up there and we're driving around in this I think the show was sponsored by Chevy right? Yeah, I think you're right now. Yeah, the whole first season we had to like, yeah, yeah, yeah, and Chrissy and I were sitting in this car that we were like, this is a nice car.

It was the first car I ever sat in that had cooled seats, Oh, yeah. And Chrissy and I were both running hot. It was like middle of summer and like... You're in a suit. And I'm in the suit and it's just hot and we're trying to sweat. And we're driving up and down this mountain, you know, and arguably one of the hottest neighborhoods in L.A. And every take we are rolling the windows all the way down and then rolling them back up.

And we go to reset and the camera, what do they call it, the French over? Yeah. Where you shoot over somebody from behind. Yeah. And so when you're watching a television show and you see that the camera person is sitting in the back seat, because there's only so many ways to shoot people in a car in cars. There's disappearing headrests. Yeah, that's true.

There's all kinds of stuff. So Yasu is sitting behind Chrissy shooting me and we go to reset the vehicle. All the windows are dumb and Yasu. And I go to roll all the windows up and have access. suddenly started rolling the back windows instead of the front windows. Crunching a camera. And the camera is sticking out the back window. And Yasu is our director of photography.

Very talented. Very, very, very soft-spoken. Yes. That's inappropriate. He's a soft-spoken man. Yeah, absolutely. All I hear is, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And then a window explodes.

Shatters. I remember this story. The back window of the car explodes all over Yasser. Oh my gosh. I remember this. Because I was just holding, I was just holding the lever. Just like, and he's like going, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. And then just safety glass rains down on the director of photography. Did he get hurt?

No, no one was hurt. Those, listen, those windows, they break into. into little tiny pieces. Yes, during crashes and yeah. The camera was fine, he was fine, but- I remember hearing this story. But I'm- Do you hear what Chris did on set today?

I assume they had some explaining to do when they returned the vehicle. Oh my goodness. Okay, I'm gonna- No one was hurt. No, no one was hurt. I digress. It would have been a better story

if someone had been, but unfortunately. You stop. So her whole experience at the camp, like you see like there's some positive things that are coming from it, the vibe seems, pretty solid for the most part. Like, it's a holistic sort of thing. She's a suspect, right? But they're talking about, she's like, well, where's the gym? Like, what's going to happen? Like, when do we get it in? She was ready for like, biggest loser. Exactly. But she's like, no, it's not

just that. You know, you get to be in tune with nature and sort of like, what is it that's underneath the weight? What is it under that that's keeping in this place so that you sort of address not just it physically, but holistically. And I was like, okay, I like that. I'm in. Right? We meet Duke. He sort of flirts with her in a really weird, nasty way. She's like, I don't like that. I don't like that. You need to back up, though. They wrote him hard.

Yeah, like the writers made this guy. He was coming for it. I mean, it was like a real juxtaposition to Toby as well. Very much so. Okay, this is like... Because it was almost like, will she go for the bad boy sort of thing? Yeah. You feel like, you know?

Yeah, the sort of tortured bad boy who sees her, who calls it like it is. Yeah, yeah. You know? I feel like that bad boy. Good with horses. The bad boy thing is more appealing to the younger ladies, isn't it? Like, think what you get grown? You're kind of like, no, I've already done that.

There wasn't as sexy indifference, as they say about this guy. Like, he was just kind of mean. So I didn't, I was like, he's a bad boy because he's rude. Like, he didn't. That's what, Mandy. Were you a bad boy kind of gone? Sure, yeah. Of course she was.

Yeah, but like not, I did, I never went for anybody, I think, that was like outright. mean that's like that's not sexy it's like yeah she she described bad we said bad boy i clock this mandy more said sexy indifference okay i i clearly went for narcissists unpack that as you will we don't have to go too deep yeah i went for narcissist i was recently on another podcast called broad ideas and they talked about things that were attractive to them and i and my response was talent like i find talent me too very sexy yes and both of the hosts were like essentially meanness. They were like, yeah, but not, I don't think, like,

Duke meanness. No, no, but there's this thing about negging that pulls people in sometimes, and it's like, I used to get caught in the good guy trap all the time. Oh, you're like a brother, oh, you're like a friend. Yeah. And then you do a little bit of nagging, and it sort of creates mystery. Like, I don't like playing these games at all.

Women do it too. Do they? Yeah, yeah. You want, my advice to any young woman out there would be like, you want the good guy. You want the good guy. That is real partnership. That is longevity. That was us.

You want the good guy. And also, there aren't any out there. Good luck finding them. But that's the goal. Good luck. Many more's got the last time. So the one thing that I really do remember in this thing is that the drum circle, right? Yes, was a real pivotal moment.

She comes into the circle and, you know, she's, and the instructor's like, you know, let it out. you know, stay on the beat and da-da-da-da. And like, you feel like this sort of compulsive. And it's interesting thing because percussion does have this sort of like primal thing that it can bring out of you. Like you see it in church, you see it in ceremony, like the drum pulls things up that other instruments don't in a certain way. And so she starts going and she's going hard on the drum. And then we go into this montage in her head and we go to the funeral. Yes, we start to get that.

The funeral flashbacks. We see his urn. Yeah. We see a pamphlet from the funeral with a picture of Jack. That's right. With a mustache. Yeah. Which still is open-ended, could be a younger, a picture from a younger time.

Sure. But as the montage progresses, and I will interject with the piece of score here from Sid, the first time we hear that, oh. Yeah. Like that Jack theme and do-da-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's just like there is something so compelling about it. And we come over the course of this montage as it goes a little deeper to see flashes of the teenagers. Yeah, that's right.

And it's like, oh, I've got chills watching it. I was like, okay, we've pinpointed a real moment in time. Right. Like, Jack passed and these guys, we've met these characters. We've met this age group. Yeah, right. And holy cow, like, how does it happen? When does it happen?

Which means it's coming soon. Which means it's coming soon. Like, we've been introduced to this storyline in this timeline. And then when Kate lets out that guttural scream, when Chrissy lets out that guttural scream, it just really took me back. Yeah, me too. Yeah, and again, a testimony to Mets.

She just... Yeah, she's in it. She's in it. Like, I would say that more than anybody else, Chrissy doesn't really act. Chrissy is. Yeah. Feels, yeah.

Chrissy is. Like, it's all just right on the surface and permeates through her whole being. She excesses. Yes, she does. Yes. She does. She absolutely does. And so I was like, okay, so there's things to come.

Yeah. Right? There's things that she's processing still clearly. And maybe she wasn't even fully conscious of it until that moment. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's now a good time to surprise Mandy. I think it's a great time to surprise me.

I mean, since we're talking about Jack. All right. he's here he's here he's with us he's with it so someone from my crew for the new show because a lot of our crew carries over from this is us was like somebody we were taking things to auction and if for some reason this didn't feel like the right piece to auction off and so i thought it might be good with you guys in your home holy cow that's it like that is so for anyone For anyone not watching on YouTube right now, what we have in front of us

are the ashes of Jack Pearson. That's right. That's wild. Right. That's a wild piece of memorabilia that I don't think any of us really thought about. When things were up for grab at the end of the show and people were like, what do you want?

I mean, an urn was not going to be top of mind. Feels a bit dark. Sure. I'm like, I want the moon necklace. There you go. Did you get it? I did. I did.

You've got the car? So we got the wagon here. What did you get? They didn't give me. You didn't take anything? Just a picture. What picture? It was like a family picture of like with the young kids and whatnot because that's like a time capsule.

I wish I had taken more. I did too. To be honest. I do too. Like now I'm like, oh, they let me go through my wardrobe. Yes, I did go through the wardrobe. I took a few pieces of wardrobe as well. Yeah.

There's some choice. But I wish I had like gone into Toby and Kate's house. there were a few things in there that I think about now that like were there from the like there was a young Frankenstein poster that was in Toby's apartment yeah that moved to all of their different houses that I was like I could have hung that in my office yeah you know sure yeah I feel you but now we have the urn but now we have JP so right here does he does he live here with us struly was that was that from our props department it was yeah absolutely was very cool so anyway um That's that sort of anything else in that storyline with with Kate I believe it's like it kind of ends in that this this montage It's a bit of a cliffhanger. Yeah, it is I will say that the that the instructor's response to her primal scream was like bro, know what we're here to do? Yeah Like she screams and he goes like whoa, okay? Yeah, I'm like yeah this is what you just asked us all to do is to go to this place. Yeah. Yeah, you're all right? No, no, no, not okay.

I'm screaming. Why do you think I'm here? I'm having a fully immersive experience. From my home. Let's go to William and Randall. William Randall. Last time we saw William, this is really, he was talking about how the medicine's not working, not feeling better. He says, do you want to stop the chemo? He says, yeah.

He says, okay. So next time we see him like he seems full of energy, vibrant, bouncing off the wall. And Beth, because her father passed away from cancer, goes, that's the chemo bump, right? Like, once you go off the chemo, you have this sort of renewed sense of energy, Vim, Vigor, et cetera. So that's all really cool. First time we've kind of been introduced to maybe the history of Beth's grief.

Yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yes, it is. Small seed planted that gets watered and germinates a little bit later on in the course of the series. Randall is dealing with things at work. there's a new person introduced, a brother by the name of Sanjay.

Sometimes Sanjay, depending on how Tyler likes to pronounce his name. He'll say Sanjay and Sanjay, which I find like the definition of privilege. Just say it however you want to, sir. Yeah. Don't worry about how it's actually pronounced. You know what you're going to worry about it.

Because he says both pronunciations throughout the whole show. Yeah. But this guy's clearly introduced as a rival to Randall. Played by an actor named Harri Dylan. Yeah. He pronounced his last name, Dylan. Good dude. Very cool.

Great actor, great times. And it's the first time you sort of see like, okay, Randall's position of sort of like alphaness and his arena is being threatened to a certain extent. Yeah, because Sanjay, I loved the attitude. He was just sort of so unbothered. Like, I love the work. I'm just here to do what I do, you know?

And it was Randall that just immediately was like. Brings out a different side of Randall. Yeah, that we haven't seen before. I've never met this color before. Right, uh-huh. Yeah. So while things are happening, William comes to visit him at work.

And he's like, hey, what are you doing here? He's like, oh, man, it was a beautiful day. Just thought of, you know, be out, taking some sunshine. He's got, does he have his hat on now? Yeah. Whatever. I wanted to go, he wanted to go shopping. Yeah.

Do you want to go shopping specifically for glasses? Or he just wanted to go shopping. I'm trying to remember. I think he just wanted to go shopping. Like, won't get out. He wanted to go shopping because he just wanted to have a day with his son. And so I'm like, okay, you. You know, I got something I got to take care of, but how much time do I have, right, with this man?

Yeah. And let me seize this moment. He came to visit me. Let me make myself available for him. We go shopping. He's looking at these sunglasses and he's looking through many different pairs. And Randall is attempting not to Randall out because he's like, look, oh man, I appreciate you want to spend time. But I do have things I need to do.

Sure. So he finally picks the glasses. I think you look great. Whichever ones you pick are going to be fantastic. He's like, we got one more stop to me. And he wants to go get an egg cream. An egg cream, right? And he's like, okay.

The oldest drink in yesterday. Which has neither egg nor cream in it. What is it? It's like a, it's like a float. Isn't it? It's like a float or something? Kind of. We just talked about egg cream on the other podcast.

Didn't he? That came up. Did it? Yes. Egg cream beverage. Let's see. Egg cream recipes. What you got?

No. Egg cream, what the, Google. Google, show some weird stuff too. Google, what is an egg cream? I don't need to know anybody's fetish for... I just was curious. And egg cream is a cold beverage consisting of milk,

carbonated water, and flavored syrup. No. Typically chocolate or vanilla. Thank you. As a substitute for an ice cream float. It's like a float. That's what I thought. Yeah.

Yeah. You never had a root beer float? I've had a root beer float, but I'm sorry, milk and carbonated water. But with the flavor. If a flavor mixed in, it's almost like a chocolate soda with the ice cream sort of thing. When the stock market is crashing, you need anything.

You do the best you can with what you got. Got it, got it, okay. To raise your spirits. Hey, what if we put milk in this fizzy water? There you go. But calling it an egg cream feels... It doesn't sound delightful. Are you ready for the least appetizing part?

Yeah. Ideally, the glass is left with two-thirds liquid and one-third foamy head. I'm not touching There we go I'm not touching There's a lot of ways To describe the name

The drink contains Neither eggs nor cream There you go I knew that part Wow that is some terrible marketing I'm not touching that last part About the phone There's a reason it's not on a lot

of menus There's a reason it didn't survive The Great Depression But it's William's favorite drink It's William's favorite drink You catch them in the car And he's like William can ask you a question man

Like we went to like 59 different places so you could find the egg cream. One of them didn't have the right syrup. One of them didn't have the right thing. Yeah. Because most people didn't know what it was. More, that was us, after this short break.

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And he says, because it's not the right time. Not the right time. So he pulls over, he puts on his sunglasses, he puts in his sunglasses, he puts in his This straw takes a sip with his egg cream. He sort of like sits back in the car. Oh, it touched my soul in such a delightful way. That beautiful man, just relishing his moment. It's like, I always wanted to drive a fancy car.

You know, I wanted to know if I could drive your car. And he's like, you want to drive my car? And he's like, yeah. I was like, all right, man, go ahead. And he's like, well, that's the problem. I don't know how to drive. Always lived in big cities, just took the bus, et cetera. And it's nice to see.

It's nice to see and it is a reminder to me that in the midst of the cacophony of life, really all there is is the here and now. Yeah. My dad is asking me to teach him how to drive. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Let me take a breath and honor this request. And I, and Randall gets to have that moment.

Yeah. For the rest of his life. That's right. And it reminds me of how sometimes. And you get to have that moment. Yeah. Sterling. For the rest of your life.

I do indeed. Because it's easy to rush through stuff. Guys, I'm sure we're all guilty of it at different points in time. And it was a reminder. This was one of those things where Randall was reminding Sterling like, bro, when all this stuff is happening in your head, all you have to do is focus on what's in front of you right now. The next moment will take care of itself. Honor what's happening right now.

What a delight to drive in the car, remembering doing the scene. Because, like, to a certain extent, he kind of fooled me to think. I was like, can Ron drive? I mean, he's a New Yorker. He's a New Yorker. So he got behind the wheel a little bit, and I was like, I check your mirrors. And it was like, Brown, be like, hey, bro, I need you not to hit anything. They gave us a bins and we're still black.

They will get rid of this car. We already shattered a window on one of the cars in this. Some doofus broke a window. But just getting a chance to see and experience his delight of wheeling, around in that car being the cool dude that he is. It's one that I like, he like slides down in the sea. He was, he gave a beautiful story to give context about his childhood at a record shop in Memphis where he grew up. And just like the coolest guy in the neighborhood was the guy with the great car. He had his sunglasses on. He was sipping his favorite drink. And William said, you know, I always

admired him. I always wanted to have a moment like that in my life. And then he was living in it. And then he got his moment. Yeah. So also in this, the seeds are planted of chemo was stopped. Story point, right? Sanjay, sort of like doing his thing at work and sort of watching how Randall is sort of navigating all the things that are transpiring in his life. Because it's a color that we haven't seen, like you guys said before, that starts to play out more and more.

It's starting to sense how overwhelmed Randall is. Yeah. Like, the tension of life is getting to him. Yeah. In a way that, like, we've always known Randall to be someone who is adequately prepared for anything. Yeah. Who's the cool dad, the cool husband. He's always got the answers.

Like, he is a rock. Yeah. He is solid. Yeah. And to watch somebody start to falter a little bit is destabilizing. For the people who probably who binge, it'll be easier to remember because it's in 102 when Beth says to William that my husband's sort of weakness is his perfection or pursuit of perfection. And like my man drove himself blind. He could not see right when my daughter was for or in the midst of the pregnancy, right?

Yeah. So it's sort of an echo back to that. Is there anything else we need to sort of grasp? As we start to watch more and more of these episodes in a row, I really don't know how people binge this show. Like to watch multiple episodes in a row, is such a roller coaster for me of just ups and downs. It's so much information to take it. Yeah. And, you know, I was saying this to someone earlier,

like, we have the benefit of being the last vestige, perhaps, of the great network television drama, appointment television, if you will, of when the show was airing, every Tuesday, you got, you had to wait a whole week to see how things, sort of where they picked up. And I feel like the way we all are used to consuming content now does a disservice to the content, you know, because it's, it's, we can watch eight episodes or 10 episodes or 12 episodes of a season of something over the course of a weekend and forget about it. So by the time the next season comes starts airing or is available or

or we're sort of talking about what we loved about the show. It all kind of blends together. That time to digest, discuss or whatever is removed from it. Like part of the experience of it is being able to share it with other people and that sort of cements things in a way that binging does not lend. Which is why there's this rush to binge because everyone's doing and you want to be a part of that conversation and you want to like listen to the reports and all these things and And it occurs to me, like, most TV shows are a moment in time.

Yeah. Right. It starts here and ends here. But what you're getting with this show is several lifetimes. Yeah. From beginning to end. Which is, like you're saying, so much information. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

To take in. And it's a strange mirror to hold up to an audience. Exactly. Because it's like, we're not only left. to think about this family and their history and their choices, it inevitably holds that mirror up for us to think about our own life. So it's like that much more information to process. So I agree with you. I don't know how anybody could binge this show rightfully and feel like, I don't know, like some semblance of sanity in the world. Like, it's just, blah. It's intense.

It's intense. But, but, but, but please keep watching. Obviously. Just do it week by week with us. Week by week with us. Yeah. That works. It's digestible. It's doable. Very feasible.

And all through this whole episode, there's the other underlying theme of do we want another kid. Oh, with Jack and Rebecca. Which is such an interesting question to just be like peppering in through all this. And the idea that like, you know, initially Rebecca shuts it down, halfway through the episode in the midst of throwing nine-year-old. a birthday party. Right, yeah. She's like, after she's, it's Randall and his perfection and the answer of how stable

and content he is, she's like, we did that. Yeah. Like, obviously there's nature at play, but there's also nurture. And like, we helped create that and like, why would we deny ourselves the opportunity to maybe do that again? Yeah. Like, you definitely see the allure. She starts to entertain it, whereas in the beginning of the episodes,

she's like, may he must be out of the way. You're out of your mind. When it's hard, absolutely not. Yeah. And when you really look at all the joyful parts of it, she starts to have like a little. Yeah. And then, of course, by the end of the episode,

it's like, we are. No. So in over our head. I don't know what would make us even consider that enough. But then they talk about, well, maybe we'll just have a dog. Jack's is like, maybe we can just start with a dog. And you're like, no. We're not having a dog.

But a dog. But it comes back. No. Ladies and gentlemen, it comes back. Should we take a break before we get to our. our fan segment. All right, we are back with today's fan segment. We asked you, our listeners, what this is us means to you and why.

We have received a massive amount of fan mail. And again, if you would like to reach out to us, you can send us an email at that was us pod at gmail.com. Or you can call the Emotional Support Hotline at 4125013028. But today, we are going to read one of the stories that came to our email. We've received a ton, and today we're going to share a very special one. All right, all right, let's do it. Let's see.

Here's one. Cold read. Let's see how it goes. Hey, y'all. My name is Sarah. No, no, come on. Give me some. Hey, y'all.

Stop, stop. Hey, y'all. My name is Sarah, and my husband, Cameron, and I just welcomed twin boys, Jordy, and Waylon, about six weeks ago. We also have a three-year-old little boy, Crosby. Nice names. I love it. Which means we have our own big three that we were never planning on having,

but can't imagine life without them now. My hubs and I have been watching this is us to stay awake during those brutal night feedings, and it's been a big source of comfort for me. You all are parents, so you know the unique pain of sleep deprivation and what it can do to someone. It's so hard in those moments to remember

how short the sleepless newborn season is. I'm personally loving all the flashback scenes to when the big three were babies or watching Kevin be a parent to twins. Watching the show always reminds me that one day these three boys I have will be grown and gone. And it helps to see a stuff.

And it helps to see a future where they are hopefully each other's greatest advocates and protectors, even if they butt heads and don't see eye. eye to eye, much like Kevin, Kate, and Randall. Unfortunately, that's about all I've got time for because someone is crying, but hopefully you all feel encouraged to know that the show continues to bring so many people joy and comfort.

I've no doubt it will live on for generations. Keep being wonderful people, Sarah G. She also gave us a picture of her children. Oh, come on. Of that delightful Big Three. there's their big three that's pretty cool she's got three boys wow she is in it with six week old by the way just sending an email to to a podcast to finding the time and energy i hope she's patting herself on the back yeah it's impressive these names jordy waylin and crosbie there's

music oh yeah that's immediately what i thought i'd say so who's jordy like if it is music night from the new kids all blah clearly obviously she's like i gotta honor that side there and wailen Jenny. Jordan Knight. Stills in Nashville. No, no, no. Bing Crosby. That's right.

That's right. That's right. It's the gamut of musical tastes. She hit me in the fields a couple of times. There's something that I've been feeling recently. My son's turning 13. And I say to myself, I have five years left. Oh, Sterling.

I have five years left. And he's out of the house question mark. thankfully, hopefully not. Like this sort of weird sort of feel of like, oh man, so much of my life revolves around the presence of this dude and his brother. Like when he's gone, life will fundamentally be something different.

My mom used to tell me all the time, she'd say that 18 years goes by real fast. Oh, I can't imagine. Yes, Mom. Real fast. I'm like, oh, Mom, I'm still here. I'm still around. I have now lived in Los Angeles for 18 years. Wow. I've lived in L.A. as long. as I lived in St. Louis, Missouri.

It is now like the place that I've lived the longest. So it's like, just like that. Sterling, I already think about the fact that my son, it will be starting like a full day at preschool in the fall. And I'm like, that's it? Yeah. That's it. I've lost him.

Like, in theory, like now he will never not be in school. Sure. For the rest of his life. Sure. And it is a wild concept. Ryan cried. First day of preschool. Oh.

Ryan, like, and he, like, ran in, my mom. Yeah, same, same, unbothered, not emotional, which is lovely. But, yeah, in its own way, I, I, like, I'm like, okay, thank goodness I have two more to, like, hold on two really tight. The feeling, the feel, the bear, bear goes to school full all day and, and the feeling of, that I cannot wait to get him there. I cannot wait to get him there. And as soon as I walk out of the gate and he's there, I'm like, go back, just go back in. You just go back in and get him. Yeah, there's no role.

And go do something. They can't keep him. Like, I can do whatever I want. And, like, it's a lot. And people, people, like, love to throw these things out. And I hear it in interviews or podcast, but someone said, it may have said this on here before, but, like, someday you will pick up your child for the last time. Yeah.

Yeah. And you won't know it. Yeah. Stop. You stop. You stop, Sullivan. That devastates me. And that is horrifying to me.

I told you about pushing on the swings, right? You did. Somebody tried to teach Bear how to pump his leg so he could get the swing going. I'm like, stop it. I'll push him. I will push you on the swings. I'm going to convince him that riding swings at 17 is totally fine. And dad can push you on the swing.

Dude, I was just watching on Mandy Moore's IG watching Ozzy just run into the, and just so she could pick them up and hold him up in the air. And I was like, I remember those days. I remember those days. I still have this thing. You got, and like, I don't know if this is particular to me as African-American, but you let me know. Moisturization is very important to brown. I don't believe in dry skin.

Oh, no. So the kids will get out of the bathtub or whatever, and like, they're supposed to moisturize themselves. But every once in a while, even the 12, almost 13-year-old will lay down, he's like, can you do my back? Oh. And he's just buck booty ass naked. Big old muscles and stuff. And I just knead into him. I like massage, like everything, like all up and down.

And he just lays there, just delightfully happy. Like, oh, thanks, Dad. Because that is your baby. It's my baby. Forever. Yeah. One day I won't get to do it. Ifah's just starting to get verbal and walking up and putting both arms up in the air and saying,

hold me. Oh. And it's, I can't. I just can't. Yeah. It's too much. This is so beautiful. It's so great.

We've like helped birth a generation of, of new children in the world with fans that love the show and watch the show and we're keeping them company and showing them how to do it. Let's talk about sleep deprivation. It's interesting. She was talking about these early days, and I'm sure you remember them from,

because when we first had kids, it was the pandemic. Oh, yeah. And it was kind of the upside of being quarantined was nowhere to be, nowhere to go, no one to see, and up all night, and up all night, And that's fine. Yeah. What other plans do you have?

And so we'll be up and then we'll sleep and then we'll be up and then we'll sleep during the day. Because we know where to be, nothing to do, no one to see. And so the sleep deprivation took on like a weird psychedelic sleepover. I did it really? For me and Rach, anyways, it was just kind of like on, ever ongoing. You guys had bare, though, a bit before I did. I was in work mode. We were back.

We were back. It was like February of 2021. Because we got delayed only like four months. Yeah. Oh, that's right. So you. I vaguely remember that, but I also remember being like a zombie. I recently heard a Navy SEAL interviewed and then they said that the worst form of torture like around is sleep deprivation. Yeah.

Went and got a chance for David Blaine to do magic for me in person. I was at the upfronts for Disney. And he's a fascinating. He just walks around with the dark. of cards and he just does things, I say, bro, you do crazy stuff all the time. Is there anything that you would not do for fear of like your own health and safety? He said, sleep deprivation. That's the one thing that I think that I wouldn't do because it's not worth it. My man walks on coals. Yep. He will hold his breath and like inside of an ice, you know, tank or what have you.

Because what it does to people psychologically is, can be cuckoo. He can. Yeah. It can. And for anything that I said to Ryan Michelle Bathay in the midst of when she asked me to wake up and change the baby at three in the morning. I apologize. I love you. You're a good person. And I know you've sailed through it. I think you're on the other side. We're on the other side. I definitely had a couple of those moments in the middle of the night. You waking me up now? Yeah. We're just like delirious and yelling. Totally. Because here's what would happen with me and Rachel. We had all kinds of white noise going on. Okay. And Rachel would like to like to whisper to me in the frequency of white noise. So white noise

are beyond. And I'm like, and I'd be like, what? And she'd be like, can you do that there? I'm like, what? What? What? Just say it. What? Did the frequency of white noise? Two o'clock in the morning trying to whisper. Oh my gosh. Whispering over white noise and it just comes out as white noise. Oh, man.

Sleep deprivation is real. It's real. It's real. I'm happy that we were able to keep Sarah Company through her sleep deprivation. Thank you for saying the letter. Please send more. We love to hear from you. We may not be able to get to all of them, but we do the best that we can, and we appreciate you. So that concludes this episode of That Was Us. We'll see you all next time. Bye.

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