The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - 19 Keys in the Trap!

Episode Date: July 15, 2022

19 Keys stops by the Trap to talk about financial literacy, entrepreneurship, tech and more!   *Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || +Our Website: www.85southshow.com || +Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee... omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:48 They're gonna give it to you You be clean Hey man Welcome back to the 85 top show Yeah, man. It's time to take a whole other direction in here today, man. You know, we got a very special guest in the trap with us. Got the sage burn?
Starting point is 00:03:08 Yeah, man. Sitting the stage with the sage. You know, you got to set the atmosphere a little bit. I feel like I'm just going to let the sage burn a little bit before I even tell them who we got in here with us today, man. Hey, go ahead. No, because I want everything to just hit just right. A little bit more?
Starting point is 00:03:27 Alright bet. A little bit more? Cool. You breath. Say what? Alright then. Clives. What'd you say?
Starting point is 00:03:43 Yeah. Hey, I can't hear you though. Alright, man. Very special guess. We gotta do... Got one of them smart brothers in here with us, man. One of those, one of them smart, brother, who didn't figure this shit out, man?
Starting point is 00:04:02 Talking to him from the other side, man. You know, entrepreneur. I just want to make up something. I feel like he's in touch with the information. Contact resources. They possess all those things. Always talking. Some good shit, man.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I've seen a lot of you. videos online people been hitting the comments and telling us we needed to have this brother stop through the trap doing some phenomenal things in the community also teaching people about wealth and you know being financially responsible crypto markets metaversus social media mogul the list could go on and on man we got none other than the brother 19 keys and yeah yeah appreciate y'all have you right here Appreciate you, bro.
Starting point is 00:04:55 At least most of the stuff than you do. Yeah. I mean, I do a lot of different things. You understand me? I definitely try to guide us in the right direction specifically for the moment. Yeah. You understand me and making sure that we're not left behind.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Man, we love and appreciate that, man. Keep doing your thing, because what you're doing is really impacting people in a real way. See what I'm saying? No, that's a blessing. That's your impact. It's the sage. Some evil spirits leaving.
Starting point is 00:05:20 You feel me? I don't even know what the hell that was, but I'm not just. Just the phone dropping. Somebody on that phone ain't living right. There's a lot of people on the phone ain't living right. That's probably the bigger issue. You understand me? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:34 All got to make it hard for people to live right, boy. Everything at your disposal. They want you to have everything that you don't need. Technology made a lot of people dumber because they no longer rely on themselves. You feel me? Like, you would imagine because we got phones and technology that we'd be more productive. You know, but you're not going to be able to find a doctor. be able to find a direct correlation between the amount of smart technology and the amount of
Starting point is 00:05:57 productive statistics that you see in the world. I mean, if you give a dumb person a smart phone, they're still a dumb person. Absolutely. The phone was smart to begin with, really, it's all depending on who operating there, you know, for said. If you take the average person that led a day and you dropped them off 100 years ago, they won't have no skills to survive. You understand, me, no value. So everybody thinks because you live in, you know, an advanced time, because we got advanced technology don't actually make you events.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You understand me? Yeah. Like, I think about that sometime I played it in my head. Like, damn, you dropped me off two, three hundred years ago. What skills would I have? What could I actually invent? Like, what knowledge I got today I can take back then and do something with, because then I can, like, measure
Starting point is 00:06:39 what my actual core value is. I wouldn't be able to do shit, probably a fisherman or something. Nothing but bad shit. Nothing but bad shit. It's selling dope like a motherfucker. What's this? Call Craig, baby. You're gonna love this. You have to know how to cut you...
Starting point is 00:06:56 It's legal, it's legal, man. All that cookie ain't you snort making your nose hurt. You can beat the man to make it Coca-Cola. Come on, man. Stupid. Two, three hundred years ago. Yeah, but I would, yeah. You would be...
Starting point is 00:07:12 Couldn't live in the 1700s, man. He wouldn't know how to hunt. Not as a black man, for sure. Hell no. I'd rather go to the future than the past. Like, you could drop them in the wrong period of time. It's over for me. I take a gamble on that future with you, yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, definitely. Send me forward. Uh-uh. You just drop somebody in the past. You might end up a slave. But then you can go further back and you might end up in some noble society as a black person. So I want to go back just a little bit. You never know.
Starting point is 00:07:37 I want Martin Luther King to hear just one Gucci main mix take. No. So they're going to lose all hope of the future. Uh-uh. Martin, listen to this is. It's that Will Chamey. What's a... Nah.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Nah. No, man, give our audience a brief introduction of, you know, who 19 keys is. Oh, man, peace to the family out there. I go about 19 keys because it represents the way that I unlock minds. You understand me. But I consider myself to be a thought leader. You know, a leader amongst leaders, you know, oftentimes I'm in front of the scenes, but I'm a lot of times behind the scenes giving somebody some knowledge
Starting point is 00:08:14 on how to move in the right direction. You know, whether there's celebrities, whether there's other influences or peers that have platforms and all sorts. so teaching us how to utilize our collective power. What is the right direction? It depends on what context. With the right direction is always the good, to do good. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:08:32 For yourself and for others. I think you can take that as a general and you place that over every action, then you can be like, all right, am I doing good to myself and I'm doing good somebody else? This is the right direction. That's really one of the greatest ways
Starting point is 00:08:46 to measure somebody intelligence is their ability to choose the right direction. You understand me? ability to be able to choose to be with the right people. You understand me? That's true intelligence. And that's why a lot of people have issues with family, with friends, with, you know, making the right decisions for themselves.
Starting point is 00:09:05 What's my purpose? What's my direction? Where should I go? What should I do? If they had that particular ability, most people, like, it's not that successful people often time on the smartest in the world. They know they have a great ability to know how to choose the right direction, you know, what they should do and what they shouldn't do,
Starting point is 00:09:21 they shouldn't do who they should be with who they shouldn't be with and that puts them in the right room setting them up in the right situations so therefore they can win more it's all about them wins man can't be out of taking no loss especially because you lack intelligence with all this technology available no that's a fact like you know you can it's okay to make mistakes you know oftentimes they avoidable but to consistently make avoidable mistakes that represent that you slow in the same while, man. Spanking different results. Especially not in today's time.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Like, I feel like when we're at right now, like we can look at any point of what we want to do, whether we want to achieve wealth, whether we want power. There's a way that we can do it, but just not individually. Right. Right, so now's at the point of all.
Starting point is 00:10:09 I got to pay this my son phone bill. It's about collective intelligence. He just hit me bad. I was damn in the middle of sinning it. No, that's good fatherhood right there. You're making good decision. You feel me? So, for me, man, as I try to teach people in, you know, pour them in whatever direction,
Starting point is 00:10:31 it's simply just getting them to choose, like for a black man, I'm gonna get you to choose to be powerful. I'm gonna get you to choose to be intelligent. I'm gonna get you to choose, you know, your higher self rather than your lower self from every decision you make. And it ain't saying you gotta be 100% perfect, you feel me? But if you can choose the right decision more times than you choose the right decision. Times then you choose the wrong one, you're going to find your life going in a better direction. You feel me? But the average person just don't know who they are.
Starting point is 00:10:56 That's probably one of the bigger issues that exist. And where did you find the knowledge to know who you are? I grew up, you know, luckily I had parents that taught me I was a God at a young age. You know, my mom and my pops, they both converted into Islam in a nation of Islam when I was younger. And, you know, growing up in that particular type of paradigm, it gave me instructions on who I was. Like, I'm a guy, I live in the devil's world. This is what you go out of deal with. Don't get me wrong.
Starting point is 00:11:23 I lost the path a couple of different times growing up in Oakland and St. Louis. You're going to get into some things. But I found it again because I had a platform. You understand me? I had a basis I can always go back. So I really, I like to give a lot of credit to my parents because, you know, without that foundation,
Starting point is 00:11:40 when I did get lost, I may not have had the tools to find myself again. You understand me? Because when you're going the wrong direction, when you've been told the right direction, all you gotta do is go back to that foundation like damn i know i'm going the wrong way this ain't even the way i was taught you understand me so picking that back up said nah i want to utilize my skillsets and my strength in the capacity where i want to reach my highest height my potential
Starting point is 00:12:04 like boyshitting on myself if i don't take myself from here to here you understand me like every man got to figure out a way to live in their edge yeah like you can just think about and this is an easy way to calculate whether you live in there is like sometimes you think to yourself like damn i could be doing more damn i could be at a higher position damn if i actually just focus discipline organized then i can find myself in a much better place that's because that's your self letting you know like it's way more to you than what you actually doing you understand me and we don't know if to respect men who ain't living at their highest level and their highest caliber thanks you understand when we judge them like brook could be doing way more
Starting point is 00:12:43 but boy shitting on life right now and you can't put that in somebody they got to figure that out for their self, then they got to readjust. So like for yourself, when you know you can be hired, you can have more money, better social status, have more impact and influence, you will kick yourself because you already know you must not be living towards that vision and that goal. And so every day, either you go try to distract yourself from that voice to drown it out or you go do something that's actually going to make that side of yourself happy, like, yo, all right, we committed to it.
Starting point is 00:13:12 We're getting there now. And so it don't matter if you take losses along the way, as long as you're going in the right direction. It's real dope shit. That's all I do, try to stay going in the right direction. You know, it's so easy to avoid bullshit, but people choose it. It's easy for some people, it's hard for some people, man. Yeah, but some people think they're the exception.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Some people think the bullshit find out. Yeah. I mean, because you're always in the environments where the bullshit at. Environment's stronger than nature, so it's like, if I'm in the hood, If I'm in the hood and I know what goes down in the hood, then most likely it's gonna happen to me. Hood shit, hood shit. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:13:54 But we already know it, but we still expose ourselves to it. You feel me? Because for the most part, we just don't know how to control ourselves and change our environment. Man, the damn sage didn't win out, man. Now it ain't deep no more, man. That's just clear out the energy, man. I knew once the sage went out, man.
Starting point is 00:14:11 You're gonna start bullshit. You're stupid. No, I mean, y'all got a lot of people. people right here, man, you know, they say during, like, recession and hard times, people try to, like, oftentimes they start binge drinking, they play games too much, you understand me, they start binge watching TV shows. Specifically, man, like, we got a hard time dealing with our emotions and stress. So we're going to do everything to distract us from accountability. You understand me? And we deal with these times the worst. So I like the fact that y'all
Starting point is 00:14:42 show switch it up because somebody may have just jumped on here at one time because, man, I rock with 85, they keep me going. Damn, this one time they had wrong there. He really gave me some gain that transition my life. Right. People tell us that type of stuff all the time, man. That's what we do it for, really. That's why exactly we... That's the power of black media, though, for real.
Starting point is 00:15:00 That's why we try to have a wide range of people on the show, man, just so people can't, like you said, form their own opinion. Yeah. Come up with your own concepts, because you never know who they're going to hear from. But just think before we had the ability to create our own media, we had to listen and watch everything that they just gave. Right. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:15:18 No ability to project your own thought out there. Like even I was listening to the game, talk about how the fact when he was going through his contract disputes and shit, like he didn't have a platform to go on social media and voice it and get the people on this side. Like that didn't exist. Like our generation got that. It could have came on the trip. It could have came to the trap.
Starting point is 00:15:35 Definitely. And should. And every black celebrity that's out there and somebody that got influenced, they should all come to every one of these media sites. Did you see that Noriega? Noriega from the Drake Champs called out the black celebrities for not supporting the black media. They don't be on some bullshit, man. You know, once they get a part of that bourgeoisie crowd, man, they start to fall in line.
Starting point is 00:15:57 But they don't even understand. We plugged into the niggas. And there's more problem on this side. Hell yeah. Yeah. But we plugged into like, last time I counted like 1,300 communities. Separate entities. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:12 But look at it, though. So let's say I've seen LeBron say he go pick basically a podcast to go on whether he's I hit him up and told him to come to the trap. Come on, Brian. Yeah, LeBron better. He needs to come. You know, I do high level conversations. So, you know, we'd be going all over different universes and shit in our conversation to go.
Starting point is 00:16:30 Different universes and shit. Yeah. So I had Billy Carson on. You know, we was talking about multiple dimensions. Right. You know, and ancient civilizations, a multitude of different things. I had my brought blue pill on. That's when I went deep.
Starting point is 00:16:44 and, you know, people believe in astrology and the chakras and things of that nature. So I tried to have a wide variety of different subjects and topics at the same time because, you know, we need high-level conversations. Like, we don't value intelligence at all in our culture. You don't think so?
Starting point is 00:17:00 No, so who, give me the top five smartest people, smartest black men in the world. Top five smartest black men in the world? Yeah, top five smartest black men fast. Shit, Tyler Perry, um, Bob Johnson. Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, and that black dude that invented
Starting point is 00:17:22 them Super Soaker Water Guns. See, that's my proof right there. That's my fire. That's your fire. We don't know who the smartest is black. It's those two little kids. Tyler Perry, bro. There's them two kids.
Starting point is 00:17:37 They had outstanding IQ. They were way smarter than that. That's probably like 30 now. They're not these kids. These were old men. These were old men. These were old men. They were right.
Starting point is 00:17:48 I see you. Every couple years we dropped their wings and we proud of them too. All the people that I named find a way to finesse the system. But you said smartest though. That's smart. You got to be smart to figure out how they figured the shit out. So let's say if you compare that list. They're smart in a area.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Who's the smartest five white men? Shit, I have no idea. John Leonard. Ellen DeGenerous. I like this list. Mike Myers. Austin Powers. Adam Sandler.
Starting point is 00:18:25 How many left? Bill, oh, Jeff Bezos. Johnny motherfucking Depp. Can he beat his case? No, so in real life, though, let's say, we talk about, like, we don't even really have. a measure on what we would grade as what makes you the smartest in the future. I think this is doing like, yeah, that's what I'm saying, like IQ, pure.
Starting point is 00:18:50 If, let's say impact, you understand me. If you're talking white guys, then most people go look at Elon Musk. No, fuck that. Before that was Elon Musk, it was Steve Jobs. It was Bill Gates. Bill Gates held that for a long time. Yeah, Bill Gates was first and then Steve Jobs. But see how you got actually non-entertainers that you can go towards
Starting point is 00:19:10 when you actually looking at who the smartest in their coach it for real? culture for real. It's not even necessarily that they were just smart as they just had the best idea. What makes it the best idea? My point is is this, that when we think about the top, we think about the most popular in our culture. We don't really think about the most intelligent. I think it's because we have to look at it from a different perspective on being black
Starting point is 00:19:32 because it's already hard as fuck, right? I think the ultimate goal was to get this paper. Fuck the accomplishments, that was the short-term goal was to get to the paper, right? what we gonna do with the money once we can we big getting money let's be on it who is we black people think that we're gonna all be together that's why we're losing it ain't no us i think we we like the idea because we know that our collective intelligence is the only way to get there but the reality of it is on a daily basis we don't believe in that if we believed in it truly we would make it happen that's the thing about it we can say that about a lot of hypothetical
Starting point is 00:20:07 shit but where is who is this we that we're talking about like we as black people like all of us as a group no those that agree to the collective idea everybody don't agree to it some people that's what I'm saying right now like I'm good I'm straight you're all worried about this black shit we're doing good over here we get money we don't give a fuck about that let's see even another culture that don't have to consistently think about being Chinese Jewish, right, white, or whatever, they already have it within their culture, ways for them to collectively succeed. We only have ways for us to collectively fail. You understand me, which is completely different. So the idea, like I always talk about creating a new culture because
Starting point is 00:20:52 our current culture is with a failure culture. We don't know how to win, and we don't know how to win together. There's a lot of people winning in the culture. Yeah, individually, but individual wins don't mean nothing. But hell, that's how all the other groups of people that you say, are winning. You don't never hear white people come out and say, oh, they're making white people look bad. Because they already. Because they're already. They run the world already. They run the world banks. That's because they, right. They don't let themselves be classified as a group. Like all the white people that we named, right? They don't give a fuck about what other white people is doing. Because they have the privilege to not care because they already
Starting point is 00:21:30 run the shit. Right. Because they don't have to save an entire race of people. They can just do they think and be successful by themselves. They just be like, those at the top do think about like right now they're going into a population decline. They think about maintaining that. That's why they goddamn commit terrorist acts because they don't ever want to be number two. They don't want to be the minority. They fight against that every single
Starting point is 00:21:51 day as a collective. That's the reason they keep ningers down because they know if I get out your way, y'all go win. If they stop putting the pressure on you today, you win. You understand me? If we stop collectively creating all of these systems and genders to lock, kill black men, degrade them, separate the families.
Starting point is 00:22:10 We can't allow black men and women to come together. Y'all focus, it's no way to stop y'all. So you got to think about that. Naturally, we're attracted to each other, but they keep putting shit in the way to wedges against each other. They wouldn't have done that if they know if I just left y'all alone, y'all will win. But anytime we've been left alone to our own devices, we build and fast. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:22:31 So that's why they had to destroy every single black town. They destroy every single group that's created because they know if we just leave y'all alone, y'all got messiahs, y'all got generals, y'all got builders, y'all going to win. So they make sure that their interests as a group is protected by keeping ours down and keeping us separate. That's the way it works. Like the greatest collective group will be the unabuladija Muhammad, accomplishment-wise in America, most influential man ever in America. So if I'm a grade intelligence, I'm going to do it by influence and impact. You understand me? And your ability to create sound solutions and be effective.
Starting point is 00:23:17 So we don't have too many ways where we measure like, damn, who is the most intelligent? Because when we think about problems, we put out the most popular, not the smartest person that can actually solve the problem. So therefore, we never hear the voice or the smartest one in the room, just the person that's popping the most. That's a matter of opinion, though. Everybody got to have their own answer to that question. If we got a problem that definitely deals with engineering, I'm going to bring an engineering scientist. I'm not about to bring Oprah or Beyonce to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:23:49 You understand me? So I don't want to bring them most popular. I'm going to bring the most qualified. Shit, I'm bringing Oprah and Beyonce because they're going to bring all the top scientists out to that shit. But why not just put the top scientists and make that the person that speaks for? How are we going to find them? Somebody got to be connected
Starting point is 00:24:05 They already educated You think if Oprah don't promote this shit The top people ain't coming When was the last time we had a scientist In the culture that was like Who is we? When I say we when we do like That's what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:24:17 I use the word we a lot Because I'm black people And so I consider all y'all we It ain't no we First of all If that's the case We have to establish we First like
Starting point is 00:24:27 What are we It's a week Gonna get together to make a collective decision It's a we We wanted to be a we because they look at us as a we. That's what I'm saying. We don't have a we. There is a we.
Starting point is 00:24:38 Because the moment we come up with a we, it's still, like, we ain't going to work tomorrow. It's still gonna be some nigger like, shit. So I don't know who the fuck we. We're not together, but they'll put us together. Nigger, ain't no we. It's just us. No, they're telling us.
Starting point is 00:24:52 Ain't no we. Okay. Who they get the vote? Who they get the vote? We need y'all to vote. Y'all. Yeah. See?
Starting point is 00:25:01 Because they call it. us weed. They put the we on us. But then once they let us vote, let us vote. Then we find out. You vote. Amen. We didn't say that.
Starting point is 00:25:13 Well, we also don't need everybody. Like I'm not talking about all 45 million black people. I ain't trying to save everybody just those who collectively agree. That's the only way it's going to have to happen though. It won't happen like that. The only way it happened like you, when you want to go save a people, you don't go to the people. You don't go to the people, you go to the people, you go to the leaders of the people. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:25:30 You go to the people that got their attention and their influence. and you get them to change the direction. We don't listen to nobody. We listen to the most popular. I mean if the beat hard. We listen to the motherfuckers if it's the wrong shit. If every black media channel decided to say, okay, every once in a while we're going to sprinkle something about financial literacy on there.
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Starting point is 00:30:18 We felt ourselves the most, because now we don't have no excuses. There ain't no excuses. Now you say we. We. Black people as a whole. black people the black community yeah yeah people with black and brown skin people who had black mothers I think it's this when I say black I ain't even really talking about skin I'm talking about those who share the same ideas and values you understand me because there's a lot of people who may share the same skin color but don't share the same ideas on what's progress nobody does and I feel like that's what what's keeping the whole community so stagnant because we don't
Starting point is 00:30:55 have a collective agreement of what that vision looks like that I agree to like let's think about how long it took the constitution like it took them to lock it into a room and white men came together and they wrote a constitution for everybody so that they can win over time right and it's never going to change and so if you look at a blueprint that's already successful it means that if you implement the same thing they already showing you how to win yeah but who's defining the success When you look at impact, when we look at how many black men get locked up with our black families generating, how many products do we own, what's our gross domestic product, what we actually producing? You can start to, what's our education levels? You can start to look at statistics and be like, okay, they're improving.
Starting point is 00:31:41 You understand me? Because if we got 1.6 trillion spending power, we ain't got a problem getting money. We got a problem putting money somewhere where it's productive. We got a problem producing things because everybody else utilizes our spending power. Because we buying up, they shit, because they're producing something. We're not producing. We just spending. So that means that if the influence now is, yo, all right, everybody can keep talking about
Starting point is 00:32:05 design a brand, but what we talk about just designing our own brands, right? Well, we're making our water bottles, we're working our drawers, we're making our soap, we're making everything that's essential products, and then we buy it from ourselves. There's no way you can't lose. You become a prosumer. You produce what you consume. You understand, you keep it in-house. but everybody else they market to us
Starting point is 00:32:26 can look how much money we got. We got more money than the whole continent of Africa. So that means that it's a mindset shift that happens and that ain't going to happen until the influence shifts where it's like, all right, collectively, if you got 5% of people that's only influencing people in a good direction, the other 95 is the ones who pushing them over.
Starting point is 00:32:46 So inside the courtier, the we, we fighting against each other because I'm trying to decipher attention from you because you're putting them in our own direction. I'm trying to get them in the right direction. But shit, now I've got to fight my own brother and sister just to keep us in line. So it ain't going to happen until the dominant influence is like, all right, this is what we're doing.
Starting point is 00:33:06 And it ain't got to happen in no corny way. It can just be embedded in there subtly of messages because that's how it happened to us. Somebody go sprinkle some seeds in there, everybody getting high and drunk. Damn, I said something real. Then the next time you run to some person, Man, bro, said the same thing.
Starting point is 00:33:24 It must be a sign. You start repetitiously putting it in somebody's head, planting the seed. So it's not impossible, but we got to work as a collective intelligence. And then, like I said, it don't take everybody. It can take a group of 24, 48 people that got enough influence that can move the whole quarter. Hmm. I don't know. I'm telling you, it's too many holes in that plan.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Well, I ain't gonna get a full proof plan on here, but... There's too many holes. I was saying that the reality of it is... I don't think we're gonna be able to get everybody on the same plan, Phil. But you don't need everybody. We ain't gonna be able to get the information now quick enough. Hell, I... When was the black pal with me?
Starting point is 00:34:09 Shit. I wasn't on Facebook. I full fact, no, you can find... You can find 24 or 48 people to show up. It ain't gonna be for everybody. Some people are just gonna get influenced by the people we bring. Oh. Plus, our culture was ran by money.
Starting point is 00:34:24 So we put our money together. We go buy people that don't want to be a part of it anyway. See, somebody going to steal the money. We didn't try that shit 400 to 7 to 8 times. When we tried that? Every time somebody steal the money. But that's a fear of my sense. Every time we put some money together, somebody steal the money.
Starting point is 00:34:39 That black lives matter. They just stole the money. Oh, that wasn't real. They just stole all the money. That wasn't real. Y'all don't want to talk about it. See, that's not a problem. We don't never talk about shit.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Because that was never a power movement. It was some black folks who stole some money from some black people. What was ever their end going? I don't know. Exactly. Should to buy that crib? So, exactly. So what was, everybody gave money to a cost, but they never told you what they was going to do with the money.
Starting point is 00:35:03 They bought a crib. They told us they were going to get some nils out of jail and shit. They should have came out. Look, we bought the crib. Thanks for the money. Every time we try to do something. But they never said, yo, we're going to start creating banks and schools and mental health clinics. They ain't said none of that.
Starting point is 00:35:18 People assume they was going to do that. You really think that's going to help. People didn't know it was a group. group. I'm saying though, do you really think that that's going to help? No, I never thought that Black Lives Matter was going to help at all. But education will always help. How? Because education allowed people better options to make better decisions. No, it's not. Absolutely every time.
Starting point is 00:35:38 Man, look at, we're talking about a system that's ran by white people. Exactly. So you already see how they treat you when you get a degree from my HBCU. You could just, you're not about to go get no corporate job. Look at all these colleges. It's not about to let you in because you, what high school did you go to? The black people. But we don't, we don't even recognize that.
Starting point is 00:35:59 It's skill-based, not degree-based. What you mean, skill-based? So like, if I'm going to educate you to get a degree, I'm going to educate you to get a skill. Like right now, when you teach the average black man and woman coding, they're going to be able to get a job in or create their own business. They're not going to get a job because they're black.
Starting point is 00:36:14 That's what a system going to come right back in the place. Or you can create your own business. You don't need a job. But at the same time, I know for a fact what the internet did is it made it to where you person don't even have to know who you are. They can't even discriminate against you. But people ain't really caring right now. If you got the skills, they hire.
Starting point is 00:36:31 Most people ain't got no skills. Like the top jobs we go, the top degrees we go to, we're doing the African American studies in psychology. Right. The top paying degrees is engineering. So everybody that's flooding into schools ain't even getting the highest paying degrees when they get out. So they ain't got no skillsets to do nothing.
Starting point is 00:36:47 So it's a bunch of educated, unskilled people that went into debt without a skill set to even pay off the debt. So now the family's worse off. They don't represent me. They never said they did, bro. No, I'm just saying, it just sounded like a long list of complaints about what niggins ain't doing.
Starting point is 00:37:04 These are just choices that people made. They made the choice to go to school and go to be a social worker. They did that goofing shit. They don't rock with education system. They're paid $90,000 for a degree that make $40,000 a year. They do shit like this.
Starting point is 00:37:20 That don't mean we feel. fucked up as black people. I never said it did. But we just never knew how to make the right decision because oftentimes we was doing it because that's all we knew. That's what the family told us. That's what's going to make the family proud.
Starting point is 00:37:32 Somebody got us living through them. You feel me? So therefore, we thought that was the right decision to put us in place. By the time we get the wisdom and figure it out, shit, we're already in debt. That's it. But that's the game, though.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You have to look at this whole scheme of what America is from the inside out. And once you get to a certain level, it ain't about, it ain't even about colors no more. It's about money. So once you figure out one system, now you've got a whole other set of problems to figure out. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:59 So that's why I say if you use the money, you can buy what you want in America. Pretty much, but you still. We never really tried to buy our way into freedom. Even if you do use the money to buy what you want in America, where are you going to take it? You go globally and in America. Like, I still want to, like America's still ours.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Like, we've been here forever. You know what I'm saying? Like... America don't belong to nobody no more. This is what I'm saying. In the future, in the metaverse, don't nobody own shit. No, nobody ever own shit.
Starting point is 00:38:32 It's owned by corporate when it comes to America. Exactly. Yeah, I mean, those who own it, you got to go to the UK, and you got to go to the Pope-owned America. See, that's what I'm saying. That's what's going on right now. They're starting to show you who really run this shit.
Starting point is 00:38:47 I mean, it's been that way for, you know, a hundred years. or a thousand years or so. But look at the way that they can just instantly cut some shit off. But at the same time, that shit was created by some frail white boys with an idea. And that's who still got me. So I'm just the type of person that will never believe that my mind can't generate or there's not going to be a generation that generates an idea that rules the world.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Because they were the same folks that got together with an idea, implemented it, and now they run the world. So for me to believe that means that I've just effectively, they became God and I'm they slave. You understand me? Like, there's a, there's something in the black man that won't even allow him to consistently believe that I've been conquered forever. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:39:25 That's the thing that they try to consistently suppress. You understand me, that belief himself because, like I said, black man focused, he's gonna do anything. When I'm focused on my solutions, how to get us together, I start figuring out the whole machinations, how they did it, how to system work, how to create my own.
Starting point is 00:39:41 You understand me? And eventually, while they fighting all the wars, we're gonna find the cracks and build our own. Right. But it has to consistently be tutored into the minds, like, nah, this shit ain't over. See, that's the thing about it. You said that black men are gods and kings, right? When have any gods and kings ever thought to join up?
Starting point is 00:39:59 If everybody's a god and a king, it's just going to be a bunch of gods and kings. You get what I'm saying? Like, there's an individual entities. You have a nation that guy on earth like the 8'clock. Oh. The idea is that you have people under the same guys. You understand me, collectively believing in the same thing for a collective vision.
Starting point is 00:40:20 But that's the thing about it. But God don't mean that I've got to rule of you all. So that's the goal. It's to create a collective vision that everybody are here to. It isn't going to happen. Because like you said, you are God, you are God, you are God, you are God. So if we're all different gods, we're going to move Godly, right? But it ain't never going to be like, okay, us is God's, we agree to this.
Starting point is 00:40:42 We won't use our powers on each other. It'll never happen. Yeah, okay. Why not? That's just not the way that hurt. I mean, not in, not in what you call? Not in nature. Not in, what's you called?
Starting point is 00:40:52 Not in the Christian Bible, man. Right. Yeah, no, but as we already got the same enemy, we really got the same goal, we just don't sit at the same table. But we don't, though. Because listen. And not everybody, see, you focus on on people who don't have the same goal. No, it might be for me,
Starting point is 00:41:08 your goal might be to reach, your goal might be to reach the people. His goal might be to become a trillion net. trillion that. So y'all gonna, your morals and your principles about how you gonna go about this shit gonna be totally different. Yeah, if you build it with people who don't have the same mission, vision, and values. Okay. If you build on people got the same mission, the same vision, and the same values, y'all going in the same direction. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So it's black people, the black community as a whole, right? We can all collectively agree that it's fucked up, right?
Starting point is 00:41:40 But when it's time to sit down and figure out why it's fucked up, everybody got a thousand ideas of why it's fucked up. Like, there's gonna be some people who say, well, we need that education. Some people gonna get up and say, nika, we need some money. Some people gonna get up and say, fuck that, give us our land and we wanna go back to work
Starting point is 00:41:56 in the field like we used to and grow our own shit. Like, so then you separate people. Those who agree, y'all go over there. Y'all go over there. Those who rockin with this, y'all stay, we're gonna build. It's super simple, that's really the best model. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:42:10 Everybody, they vote. Okay, 10% of the people say they ain't rocking with it. another 15% they said they want to go do something else enough 50% fell out we come down to it we got 19% left we're rocking with those we're going to build with whoever want to go yeah you understand me like i think the idea of trying to build with people like i said ain't got the same mission vision of values is where you lose right that's why i don't need everybody i just need those who ready to go it's always going to be some soldiers it's always going to be some suckers you're going to build with the soldiers and lead the suckers that's how it's got to be yeah but see We've been some confused for so long, man. Y'all got some water? Yeah, it was some random. You think we wouldn't give you no water?
Starting point is 00:42:51 Oh, there ain't water. There's all kind of shit in here, just falling out. Nah, man, I'm not debating you. I'm just being objective. I don't mind it, man. I need a little objective opinion at some time. You know, we talk shit like this at the barbershop and shit like that. Well, look, the niggas came from the earth, then. Why ain't no moon? You see what?
Starting point is 00:43:14 what I'm saying? What is the moon? The moon is white. At night, though. They won't even let us have night. They had to throw a white moon up there in the black sky of the night. Stupid. Right? Right? Wrong. No, I'm just fucking around. Just making sure you're welcome to the trap, bro. Oh man, I appreciate it. Hell yeah. Gotta keep you on your toes, man. Oh yeah, I stay on the So what else we got going on, man? I've seen you on the Marvel show, man. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was watching.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Yeah, make some nice for it. Yeah, shout out Hawke out, man. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, we're working on it. You know. What you got in the worst?
Starting point is 00:44:03 Marathon. Uh, good thing is coming. It's a little kid movie. I think I shot a while ago. I don't know. You know, I don't never know what stuff drops. So I do it to try to forget about it. I want to get into action, man.
Starting point is 00:44:14 Come on, man. You should do it. Yeah. You should do it. I want to play like a black man with the ability to just change anybody mine. And I can read minds and stuff. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:28 That shit is scare you, though. Yeah, so I start just figuring out ways to change the whole world. I start going big. Where at first I stay low, I stay private. Nobody know about it. You understand me? I'm in my hood and I'm just running things. What's the first thing you would do to change the world?
Starting point is 00:44:41 First thing, it depends on what part of the world I want to change, because that's very... No, it's the world, it's a whole. But the world is just a collective of ideas and people and shit. Like, what about the world I want to change or economic, I want black people to get money? So, and you're talking about in my movie sense
Starting point is 00:45:00 in real life? What if you did that shit, right? Yeah, if you did that. You were like, you was like, I want all the black people in the world to get some money. And then you look around and don't shit change and then you're like, Why ain't shit different?
Starting point is 00:45:12 You're like, niggas had money the old time. Yeah, no, we've been had money. I think we just don't have self-knowledge and education. You understand me? Some people chose the money over that shit. Yeah, and that's why they did dumb shit with the money because they ain't had no knowledge for it. So if, like, first thing, it'll have to be educating us to a higher degree.
Starting point is 00:45:33 If right now, of all black people who got reparations, we're going to soon lose it and give it back to them, folks, because we don't know what to do with the money. Understand me. Because we're going to buy a bunch of shit. Yeah. Huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:45 We don't buy up everything. Yeah, because all we know how to do is spend. We don't know how to produce. That wouldn't necessarily be the wrong thing, though. You got to hurry up and spend it before they change their mind. Nah. Because they'll fuck around and give us the reparation money, right? All niggins be straight.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Yeah. Everywhere we go, they only excepting Bitcoin. They don't even fuck with cash no more. By the time we all get our money shit, they're going to be the mood on to some other shit. We only take Buffalo Nichols now, Pat. We go and buy land. We're going to make connections with other countries.
Starting point is 00:46:18 You feel me? Like, Africans need black people right now. We slide over Africa and we make hill. Yeah, they found all that gold. But shit, for the most part, like I said, they only be knowing what to do with the money. You understand me? They got resources, but oftentimes they don't even know
Starting point is 00:46:32 how to take advantage of the resources and they own backyard. So that's why they always had the Chinese, always had white folks coming in there. You understand me, pulling their resources, giving them pennies on a dollar, and then shipping it off to make billions. So like, if you take the intelligency of the black community, those who are educated, and go over to Africa and make deals with the different countries, different presidents, you can
Starting point is 00:46:57 go build over there. It's right right now. You understand me? Jack Dorsey, he building over there, a bunch of people building in Africa, because they know, number one, African population about the double, right? They got the youngest population over there. They got all of them tech geniuses. And we're not really looking at Africa as a source for the future.
Starting point is 00:47:16 You feel me? But if we did, that's where all of the new, I feel like the trillionaires and the next wave of billionaires are going to be created in Africa. And it's hell of land to build on, like, it's just we don't have that in our imagination. Like, I really believe in being able to give us certain thoughts and certain ideas and certain visions. And everybody ain't going to do it, but it's going to be a small percentage. of us that really take that and run with it. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:47:42 And if you can impart that wisdom on a few, then you change the world. Not right now, but over time. Because sometimes we want shit done in such a short amount of time, but you never go see those results. But the fuck-up part is we're gonna actually get to see the world change in our lifetime.
Starting point is 00:47:58 I've seen the change a couple times. This ain't the world I grew up in when I was just young. Right. Everything changed. Hell yeah. All the men want to be women, all the women want to be men. Not all, I don't.
Starting point is 00:48:09 It's a big change. Not all, but Atlanta got a lot. You feel me? So for me, I didn't see the dynamics change, even principles in the streets. Everything didn't change the... Yeah. You feel me? Technology to change the world.
Starting point is 00:48:24 We didn't have what we got now, today, back then. Like, the world has changed so drastically, and sometimes we don't even look around to see how much has changed, so we don't even take advantage of all the changes and the resources. Because if you really stop, like, damn, I'm living in the best time to do whatever. time to do whatever I want to, because I got more access than just about all of my ancestors had at any point in time. Information, media, money, people. If I really sat down and you got ideas, you can do whatever you want to. But it's more so just the lack of good ideas and execution that people had. It ain't a lack of resources. That's why, you know, what we do with
Starting point is 00:49:02 the financial literacy, I call it the financial liberation movement, you know, by teaching people financial literacy and educating them now you give them the options to change their life in a different direction because a lot of people just be stuck don't know where to go so it's like all right number one let me even tell you how to deal with yourself because before i'm gonna teach you how to deal with money i'm gonna teach you how to deal with your mind you understand me because that's where all your issues from money come from you don't know how to stop spending you got insecurities you don't love yourself you understand me you you do all these different things and then if i can help build that to help you get to know yourself, you stop spending because of your insecurities or your issues.
Starting point is 00:49:41 Now I actually can say if I can fast from things, I can stop when I want to do something. But most people ain't got control over their self. If I ask the average person right now, stop smoking, stop drinking, tomorrow. They're going to say, I can do that. But if they try to, they'd be back smoking and drinking tomorrow. So who has control over you if you don't have control over yourself? You understand me? And so it's really getting people to see themselves and giving them too.
Starting point is 00:50:05 to be able to stop fast, which detox from all of that shit that you got going on in your life, and then you start correcting yourself from there. And I ain't saying do that shit overnight, but I'm saying that specifically for men, when I be talking like this, it ain't about it being easy. It's about you going and doing the hard thing,
Starting point is 00:50:24 because that's what's going to make you a man. You understand me? If you really grade yourself by them details and you consider yourself to be a man, you have to stop, oh, well, that's not easy, he acting like it was just, nah, yacking like that. that you a man, drop your nuts and get it done.
Starting point is 00:50:37 If not, then be happy with the consistent life of a sucker. But I think that, you know, we got that ability sometimes. We just need somebody to talk to us. You feel me? And we under mother, under father, under brother, under sister, we ain't really got that family energy no more. You feel me? And that family energy, we got principle.
Starting point is 00:50:58 We got value. Everybody live by this. This is the code of the family. Ain't no codes, no structure. So everybody just trying to figure out life. they go and they just fell in everywhere. You feel me? Yeah, families don't work together like they used to,
Starting point is 00:51:12 you know, just, you know, for a lot of reasons. Nah, and I love my family. It ain't got stable. But that's the thing about it. It never got bad. It's just like it's been. It's been the same story for the whole time. We always, family actually was silent.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Like, during the whole time it's slavery, family stuck together still. You understand? It really can get up all the way to the point of welfare state and the government start breaking up men and women and family started dispersing, which means that we went through that whole entire time of slavery, eons of history, and it didn't get to government programs of welfare that started to break up black men and women. So when we really simply look at it, it ain't that hard to fix it.
Starting point is 00:51:56 Black man gotta get money again, you feel me, and then start doing the right thing with it. We just can't, for the most part, can't be depended on. Like, so a woman becomes independent when a man can't be depended on. That's just a simple formula. You understand me? And now, they can't go together. She can't depend on you. You understand me?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Because you're not dependable, and she's independent. So she depends on no one. So who's she going to at the end of the night? So it's just switching those dynamics in, you know, that's the conversation I like to have with the culture. The plot twist is. She's going home. She got a nigger. They're meeting over there.
Starting point is 00:52:39 She's independent, not by herself. Independent don't mean single. No, that's a fact. Amen. We'll be single at some point in time. That shit don't never laugh at. I learned this about women. If you don't physically say the words that, like, y'all together,
Starting point is 00:52:55 like, I'm your boyfriend, we are this. We are in a, if you don't say that verbally, then you can get away with not treatment. Then y'all are not together in their mind, so it's a verbal contract. I think women still believe it, even though you don't say it, because when you act it. Because nowadays, men will act apart as the boyfriend, a husband, all of that. And a woman's going to make an assumption is what we is. So her feelings going to be caught up in it as if in the way that she assumed.
Starting point is 00:53:26 It's only the assumption until she gets, like, if you get caught, then she going to say, oh, I thought we were to But if you catch her doing some dumb shit, it's gonna be, we were never together. Oh yeah, that's the insurance. It did, on the flip side, shit as a dude, you're gonna say the same thing. Like, I never said we was together. But that just makes you sound like more of a terrible man.
Starting point is 00:53:49 But as a woman, and she says it. But it's the same thing. It's like, oh, well, you were leading yourself on because I never agreed to these terms. She goes to see it just like that, too. They call with it like that. You think you're going to see it just like that. You could just approach them using logical sense.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Hell no. Women ain't based on logic. I never do that. And, you know, and I ain't going to say women. I say the feminine energy ain't based on logic. Right. You understand me, which is completely different. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:17 So when you try to approach anything with a woman just based on rational and logical thought you're going to lose every time, even if you're right in the argument, if you're going straight with logic, you're going to lose. Right. You got to go with feeling. That's right. You got to look on with your feeling.
Starting point is 00:54:30 You can't be like, this is what you're going. did. You gotta say this is how I felt about it. About what you did. No matter. You gotta speak about your feelings. They don't care about how nothing made you feel, man. It's about how they felt. And what you did. You ain't supposed to have no feelings. Right. That's how they look at it. You were man. She'd be like, boy, please, after all the shit you did. It's a cold world, man. I think All men should just stop trying to figure women out completely. Fuck it.
Starting point is 00:55:07 It's going to deal with them when they feel like dealing with us, and we're just going to leave that shit secret like it's been. We need to really stop wasting time trying to figure out women. It's not. Figuring out. You've got to find that peace. You can understand your woman, but all women, hell no. I think feminine energy, masculine energy, for the most part,
Starting point is 00:55:25 we do the same shit over and over it. People ain't that complicated. We like to think shit complicated, but we don't like to accept what we already. You know it's men. But trying to figure it out detail by detail, you're going to lose every time. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:37 You just got to understand this is feminine energy. This is how I move. You understand me? I'm masculine. That's how I think. You feel, me? Then when you put them two together, it ain't really much to figure out.
Starting point is 00:55:46 You just got to act accordingly. Hey, man, just leave them ladies alone. Deal with your woman. That's the best advice I can give. Don't try to figure women out. There's too much shit in the game when it comes to that. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free.
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Starting point is 01:00:14 Get your tickets today, AXS.com. But I also think that's probably one of our biggest issues, like men don't understand themselves, women don't understand themselves. I don't understand me. I got a cool, it takes. It takes a long time though. Like, the older you get, the more you learn about yourself and what triggers you and what
Starting point is 01:00:36 you don't want and the people you like and, you know, when it's time to get out of there. It just take a long-ass time to come up with a complete list of who you are as a man. And just, you know, you get to a certain age where you start to know yourself better. Right, and I think it's black men, we think that, you know, we have the luxury of, you know, pick that shit, that ain't me. Like, there are certain parts of life that you can't skip. Certain things have to happen in your journey into manhood.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Like, you ain't going to be a complete man until you didn't get your heart broke or some shit like that or really been in a real relationship. And then you can go back and reflect and see where you were wrong, what you could have did better. But then it's like where you weren't wrong, things that you can, decisions
Starting point is 01:01:24 that you make that you can live with. That's the biggest part about being a man. However, people look at your decision, If you can be comfortable with him and face the consequences that come with him, that's what being the man is. Probably not to around 35. Like, a man stops thinking selfishly
Starting point is 01:01:40 for the most. Right. You understand me? So, like, relationships before that, almost doomed to fail sometime. Just because you don't really know how to stop, not just thinking about yourself and start thinking about the other person, empathetically. Men don't know how feelings work until you get your fucking feelings hurt.
Starting point is 01:01:58 Put that on the shirt. You don't even know that shit. You don't even know what the fuck that shit feel like. This is right, do you, somebody do a you on you? Mm. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:10 Yeah. Yeah. We ain't got a lot of emotional experience, though. Like, when we young, we just, we skip over feelings. We don't have them. That's what I'm saying. We, we, like, that's our developmental delay. No, you have them.
Starting point is 01:02:23 You don't act, you don't use them, though. You have them, then somebody. We ignore them. Some bullshit happened, and then. Then you ice cold. You, you, you, hey, hey, this one girl did. Hey, I'm feeling, I'm hard on these holes. I'm iceberg slim out here.
Starting point is 01:02:42 I mean, shit, I want to talk to tap into my feelings. You understand me? I was talking, you know, rise above emotions. But once you get to understanding it, because you ain't going to really be able to appreciate to understand women until you tap into that side of yourself as well. Yeah, don't rise above it. That's the thing about it, though.
Starting point is 01:02:59 Once you understand that those feelings are there, you've got to walk straight through that shit. That's the only way it's going to work. That's what I'm saying. You can't cut the corner. Some things in life you just got to do. Now, I believe in rising above it just in the fact that your emotions don't rule you. You understand them.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Yeah. Some of that shit you got. But like the consequences of those emotions, you just have to face that shit. That's a fact. You got to feel yourself rather than try to suppress it. Yep. You know, that's where you get a lot of, you know, I hate that word, but toxic behavior. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:03:30 Where it's like, damn, I don't really know how I'm feeling. I'm gonna skip that, and then you just start acting out. Yeah. You understand me? No, I'm gonna take full inventory of who I am, what I feel, because I ain't gonna be afraid of no emotion that come up. It ain't gonna control me, it ain't gonna rule me. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:03:45 But I'm gonna feel it because if I don't, then that's saying I'm afraid of myself. Anything you suppress is gonna come up eventually. Did this shit just turn into Black Man Therapy? Yeah, man. Hey. Some real mental health talk. Hey.
Starting point is 01:03:58 Oh. and my brothers were talking about that earlier it's like mental health just the idea that men never uh when you younger you don't have conversations around how you feel you understand me and how you can see you know that's that whole that's where to go to but at the same time is one of the most masculine things because that's a man logically dealing with shit you understand me it's like it's easy to go fight somebody but to have conflict resolution and communicate that's masculine the feminine is the latter if not dealing with it You understand me?
Starting point is 01:04:30 So we always never taught that, yo, we sit down as a council of men and we actually talk about things. That's masculine as hell. Yeah, we usually do that after the fact. Right. Yeah, we usually having too late. That's why when you see grown men talk, especially in older age, they able to sit down, they able to articulate, they can break things down,
Starting point is 01:04:49 they can talk about all matters of things and get through it. But when you young, if you ain't got a father in your life that can really train you through that, I ain't gonna never pick it up. And my brother and father, they're the most masculine men I ever known, so they definitely didn't talk about it. So I imitated them, so it took me years to understand that I ever even had a feminine side.
Starting point is 01:05:11 You understand me? And what that actually meant, and that didn't pertain to women, it just pertained the balance of energy within myself. Which was a completely different conversation. Then once you were able to balance that out, then you really got all the power you want to as a man. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:05:27 And that's why I draw creatively from, That's where I draw my leadership from. That's where I draw my intellect. I'm able to pull from both sides and understand myself. And I just don't lie to myself. If I'm fucked up in the area, then I'm going to look in the mirror and I'm going to own that until I can control it and let it go. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:05:45 I'm not going to, nah, that ain't me. I'd rather see myself who I am so I can change into the person that I feel like I should be. Change is always necessary. Always. Good growth. It's part of the evolution. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Yeah. So what's y'all next phase in life? Like do you ever, you ever think about like, all right, I think about my future self, right? So like in 10 years, what I'm going to be wearing, the way I'm going to feel, where I'm going to dress, I'm going to be on a whole other level. You understand me? So do you ever stop and have that vision on where you think about your future? Mm-hmm. I'm going to still be me, a little bit fatter, I'm going to be on a boat.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Super. Just out in the middle of the Mediterranean, man. Yeah. Chilling. Watching the sunset. You own the book? My shit. We've been out here for weeks.
Starting point is 01:06:43 Yeah. It's chilling. What about you? I didn't make a billion dollars off imagination. I'm gonna be the nigga bring imagination back. Bringing it back. Hell yeah. All my careers.
Starting point is 01:06:57 Crills, gonna have the Infinity Pool, and I'm gonna be them directed about two movies. Two movies? Yeah. I gotta roll. Yeah, you're in there. And we're doing big shit. We're creating more media, movies, films. Yeah. Probably by the time they get to Jurassic Park 15, me and Clayton being wrote one of them shit, something big, a smash. It's gonna be one of them ones when you ain't even know it was us, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Probably do a few things with Jordan Pool or some shit. Do Wakanda 10 or something. Come on man, hey, we're gonna have to get us another superhero, so we can hold all the right. Yeah, working with three, four different networks. I feel it. So how y'all running everything right now? So are y'all producing movies? Yeah, Bollywood movies.
Starting point is 01:07:46 Nah. They got a song-up over there. They ain't let nobody in that day this year. I mean, we ain't, but we're speaking up on it. No, we might be able to do something in Naliwood. Yeah, Nilewood. Nigeria. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:02 No, for sure. Nigeria. They got a problem. Shit, we gotta go to Uganda. They just got 13 trillion, whatever. Ghana, Nigeria, Rwanda, Rwanda. Those are all the best spots. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:15 We'll plug in over there. Need to. Two American playboys. You got a large African audience. They rock with us. Yeah, I mean, I don't know exactly like if I could give you a count. No, but they pop up. They put their.
Starting point is 01:08:27 flags up they shout out their city they tell us like we know what country they come on the live oh they just tell us hey Loz I see you representing what they know what that mean that's what I'm right the order abbreviated that shit is even the worst just tell me exactly so I can Google it but we pop in everywhere all up in Gabon Russia the ukre the ukli I don't know about the I don't think I don't think we're in Russia, bro. Bro, my fucker just sitting me on Instagram another day watching this shit from Russia.
Starting point is 01:09:03 I thought they pulled the internet. Crimea. He got booedded. Australia. New Guinea. Nigger had showed me the shit. They're watching this shit up in the mountains with the native mountain village people.
Starting point is 01:09:19 You think I'm bullshit? Yeah. I'm not. I want to see it, man. I want to see it, man. I mean, I ain't had your social media. The next time my fans hit me up from around the world I start sending it all the use
Starting point is 01:09:33 so you can validate it. I'm gonna start reposting it. Yeah. Yeah. This lady was having a favor. Guess what she was watching. 85 South Shore. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:42 That's more clear. On a military base in France somewhere, I think. Laughter probably good for the pain. Yeah. We didn't hear all corners of the earth. Name of place. Ireland. They fucked with us.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Heavy over there. Heavy. White girl with the big tits from Ireland said she wanted me to come over there and eat some boiled ham with it. I was like, what the fuck is boiled ham? How can I make that up? Look it up, that's what they eat over there.
Starting point is 01:10:08 Boiled ham, it's soft mushy shit. I got fans over there in Ireland and Scotland. When we was out in London, they drove like 450 miles to pull up on us. Wow. Yeah. See? I do this process.
Starting point is 01:10:21 It was this white guy. It wanted me to crown them. I put like the crown on your head, but I told him on crown one, They were still asking. You told them that? Absolutely. How did you say it? I don't cry on white folks.
Starting point is 01:10:31 You called them white folks? People, folks. I might have interchanged those, but... What was the look on their face like? Oh. I mean, but you feel me, I'm gonna always keep it real with him. Brother asked me, he said, look... You know they found a nigga that ever did it anyway, right?
Starting point is 01:10:47 No, they was cool with it. Like, they followed the platform, so they know... We got the other guy. You still got the other guys in them? He did it. No, nobody can do it but me. You feel me? But no, he asked me, he said it in his accent.
Starting point is 01:11:01 But he was like, man, I really follow you, man. I need you to help me get my power. You understand me? I said, no, I can't help you with no white power. Understand me? I can't be responsible for that. And he respected it. Damn.
Starting point is 01:11:15 But I still gave him some solid good advice on your life. You didn't have made him. No, I still gave him some solid advice on his life. You feel me? and I think the energy I gave with change is like playing after this. Big twice as to go in this bag. It wouldn't give you the black pair, but the white pair's always been in you. That's not my responsibility.
Starting point is 01:11:38 That's fun. Oh yeah, man, whatever we want to talk about. I mean, the crown that, you know, I was originally inspired by the honor boy, Elijah Muhammad. You understand me? and I wanted to merge, like, higher consciousness with the streets. So originally I had it on bandanas. This was a more advanced one right here that you see.
Starting point is 01:12:02 But normally we had a bandanas, and I used to go around the world and I crown people all around the world. You understand me in the streets, Africa, everywhere we went. And it was just a process where, you know, kind of giving them affirmation as I'm doing it, you know, some good energy. And people would make that, it became like a pilgrimage. People would come all over and they wanted to get crowned. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:12:22 And I wanted something that, like, if you look at the Paisley print of the bandana, that represented gang culture. Like, if you looked at colors, it helped people spread gang culture, right? Oh, man, I put on this, I'm gang. So I'm like, damn, what do we have as an opposite effect that represent like you a God?
Starting point is 01:12:38 Something that you're tapping into your higher self. So I'll make sure that we always got them tied up in the back just so it's always that connection. You understand me, to the streets. And now when I see people and they wear to sometimes they meet with each other, We call it Crown Society, where it's just those around the world who crown themselves in representation of knowing who you are, what you stand for, what you believe.
Starting point is 01:13:00 You feel me? And it's solid because when people meet, they got the crown them. They know that they tapped into similar frequencies, you feel me? And so we build like that because I wanted to create something that even when I'm going down somewhere and I see somebody with the crown on, that's my folks. You feel me? We all tapped into that same energy. When we talk about weed, those are my weed.
Starting point is 01:13:20 You understand me? I can't deal with everybody, but those my week, those who tapped in, right? And so I always did, you know, fashion and just knew how to design things with creativity. And Dappendan just followed me, so, you know, I'm officially a fashion icon in that area. Man, that don't mean shit.
Starting point is 01:13:39 That does mean something. He only followed 185 people. You feel me? You can't take that. You can't take that away. You can't take that away. I mean, nothing. Act as Dependon.
Starting point is 01:13:50 Y'all, y'all, let me follow this brother, man. He's got a real sharp eye for the family. You feel me? You feel me? That's a, no, look. This is what happened for real, though. Gucci and Versace coming around. No, this is what happened for real.
Starting point is 01:14:01 He was doing a collaboration, right, with Gap. And he sold out, like, maybe I think 10,000 hoodies. So I put out a video, giving an idea on how this would have went better if you made it to NFT, because you would have got royalties on it if you would put it out there, right? Everybody tag in, Blasee, blahze. Some people are like, man, don't need yo. help, right? A week later, that's exactly what they do. Then a week later after that, Dan followed me. Taped in. Put the stamp on it. He could have followed you the week before and let
Starting point is 01:14:30 him know he was going to do your idea. Whatever. No, they could. I ain't get no money off him, but I'm going to use it for cloud. Free game. No, I ain't going to stop that. Okay. I don't feel like nobody on me, nothing, but that don't mean I can't press play and say that that's something I did. But you real believe that dapper damn following you makes you a fashion not that's just that's just him weighing his opinion on it that's all you feel me you ain't a fashion icon do i definitely i'm just fucking with you dad you know we're gonna talk about yeah you're doing your thing bro i'm up there you feel yeah yeah but you know like even with the nfts and stuff uh it's really not even just nfts it's just the whole blockchain
Starting point is 01:15:13 and web 3 yeah i bought some i made some money off some i sold a lot as well you understand Yeah, I sell ones like I got the crowns. They spend, everybody who buy these, they unlock a physical crown. They're part of a crown society. Like, it also can double as like a membership to an event or something or a discount or special merch. So now I know how many people that's in that community
Starting point is 01:15:34 that really lock rock with me. Like if 85 South Show got their own NFT, right, the 85ers, right? You know exactly how many people in there, how many people spending where they're at in the world. They're all in the community. They're speaking with each other in the discord and everything. That's building out your whole business foundation. Them people are locked in with each other on the grid.
Starting point is 01:15:53 You understand me? You go in that room, yo, we're about to be in Chicago. It's already 30,000 people in the Chicago room. You drop the ticket link in there. It's sold. You ain't never got to post it on Instagram because you've got the community in a central place where you can communicate with them.
Starting point is 01:16:06 If you go on Instagram, you drop a post, maybe 3 to 4% of people go tap in. So you've got to send it through email. You got to try to hit them through text. You got to consistently try to put it out there. So enough people see it that click the link in by. But the idea of Web 3 is that, no, we're not asking Instagram to be the middleman. We want to be able to own that audience and own that digital identity that's on there.
Starting point is 01:16:28 You understand me? And put the Internet on the blockchain, so we don't have to go through nobody else for our own influence. Like, it's crazy when you really think about it. Instagram, like everybody creates content for Instagram, and Instagram keeps 100% of the proceeds. You understand me? The idea of Web 3 is that, no, when you make your own content, you get to sell it, and you get to get paid, right?
Starting point is 01:16:50 If somebody wants to throw an ad on there, then that means that you now getting paid for that. If somebody's sharing your content, and let's say, like, if I got something viral and everybody use it as a reel for their voice, right now they're getting paid for that. But let's say a million people didn't utilize my real, my IP, but I don't get paid
Starting point is 01:17:09 because I dropped it on the platform and I don't own it. So the idea of Web 3 is that, no, everything you make, everything you create, you own it. So when it gets monetized, you get paid. So, like, I start talking about NFTs because I just figured it was a good way that people can increase their business models and create communities out of it.
Starting point is 01:17:30 It had nothing to do with no eight pictures, none of that shit. It's about the technology itself and what do it do. You feel me? Yeah. And so, like, the whole Web 3 space, I feel like that's the space that if black people really educate themselves on, you got the opportunity to create billionaires
Starting point is 01:17:45 and multimillionaires now. Like, if your children that's interested in gaming, they can, you know, sit down and actually learn how to create their own guy. And it ain't even that hard. But it's like, we just got to know. Like I said, we go back to intelligence, making decisions in the right direction. Like, most people don't know what their child job in the future will be. 60 to 80% of the jobs ain't even been created.
Starting point is 01:18:09 They're going to have to be created out their imagination. But for the most part, it's like when you look at where the future going, the Asian so I studied this when we talk about wealth standards like if you look at the Asian wealth standard one of theirs is utilize education family right and they always go to the top sectors and they jump in those top sectors the highest paid sectors and that's where they get their education in and whatever's coming next so if blockchain go be in it gets what all our children jumping into blockchain so when blockchain pop up guess what who get paid we do guess what who we selling that to your children right and then the side
Starting point is 01:18:45 continues to go. And that's how they were able to consistently grow and build and build, and that's why China is number one in the world now. Well, there you have it, folks. Yeah. It's all the game. Put that shit together. Black people coming, though. Don't worry.
Starting point is 01:19:01 No, we are. We don't know. Definitely. I mean, listen, we had a lot of ills that we took along the way getting here. So it's like we talk about all the just black people stuff, but at the end of the day, like we've been through a lot before this moment. Yeah, it's all good. We come in heart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:19:17 We got good people like myself, yourself, and other people that's going to consistently put out things that's going to help people make better decisions. Hell yeah, drop your social media so they can catch up with you. Oh man, they can find me at 19 underscore keys on our platform. That's on IG on YouTube. You plug in 19 keys or go to high level conversations. We lock in there where, you know, we talk about health, we talk about wealth. Aliens and shit.
Starting point is 01:19:43 Sometimes we had dropped something that in there. We keep it entertaining for the people at the same time. Yeah, I had to go back and catch it, I had to re-listen. That one just dropped. Actually, that's probably our best episode. We only, for that particular podcast, we've been out like 60 days. You understand me? But all the episodes hit past six figures to seven figures on those.
Starting point is 01:20:01 So we're killing the game. Keep doing your fucking thing, man. I know this your first time in the trap. Don't let it be your last time. No, man, this was fun, man. This was different for me. Yeah, yeah. We're glad you come kick you.
Starting point is 01:20:13 Just open discussion, talk about whatever. We want to. That's how it's supposed to be. What you say, Kat? I want to hear about the A-Ey. I don't hear that. That's the one with Billy Carson, man. We went deep.
Starting point is 01:20:25 That one just hit two million a day, man. People loving that. That's a cult classic. Yeah. I mean, one of the ideas we talked about that, you know, we are the aliens. You understand me? Like, black folks, if there's going to be some aliens, when I think about, I don't think about little green men or little gray men.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I think about black people up there piloting ships. You can't me? And it was something that was done on the science channel where they basically did a study where if it was going to be aliens and we was to live out in space, those who got darker skin can actually deal with the radiation more. You understand me?
Starting point is 01:20:58 So aliens would have to be dark skin. They had to be heavy melanated. Then when there being no gravity, the way you go come out the uterus, your head going to be bigger, because it's not going to squeeze. Then you're going to be less dits because there's no gravity, so you're going to be skinny. So it's going to be skinny black people with big heads in space.
Starting point is 01:21:15 So if I'm thinking about UFOs, I'm thinking this skinny black people with big heads up there piloting and pulling down, coming to see what we're talking about. But then they, when they come down here, they say they were great. Yeah, but you know what I'm saying? They weren't great. You said they were black. It could have been a space suit. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:31 I don't claim to be an alien expert, but I just think that, I don't think of it in the terms of like some reptilian aliens. I think it in terms like, these are just people with advanced technology. They probably look just like niggas. They just got some little gills up behind their ears. And they ain't got no reason to convince them. come visit. It is probably humans that weren't born on earth.
Starting point is 01:21:49 What's your fact? From slave ship to mothership? That concept more so was talking about, you know, we start off on a slave ship where we don't own nothing and we own by everything. You understand me? When we talk about we don't own nothing, that slave ship, that's our bills, credit, that's the systems, the institutions,
Starting point is 01:22:11 everything in America. And then the next stage of that, once you get educated, you go towards ownership. You understand me, you want to stop renting, you want to get you a house. But it also goes towards emotional ownership, where you take accountability and ownership over all things in your life, so you start to mature from slavanship to ownership. Then, when you really get advanced, you go from owning that emotion to controlling it. Like, it ain't even mine no more, but I have control over it. You understand me, I rule it, and that's rulership. And then it's like, I don't even own these assets, but I control them. So you own nothing, but you control it.
Starting point is 01:22:45 everything. So therefore you move on into rulership. And then that final frontier is like with black people, we get enlightenment and consciousness where we ain't worry about money. We didn't worry about none of those things. We get to literally just plan our imagination. And that's where we live above things and we're on that mothership. So that concept is something that utilized to teach us to kind of like put a vision in where we need to go. But some people on the mother, on the slayship. Some people are ownership. Some people on rulership. But you got to make it all the way to the mothership if you want to get out of here. Big facts.
Starting point is 01:23:19 19 keys, man. Clayton English. Yeah. They'll win. Yes, sir. 85 Zapshow. We have this big. Let's take a picture.
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Starting point is 01:25:20 Your entire identity has been fabricated. Your beloved brother goes missing without a trace. You discover the depths of your mother's illness. I'm Danny Shapiro. And these are just a few of the powerful stories I'll be mining on our upcoming 12th season of family secrets. We continue to be moved and inspired by our guests and their courageously told stories. Listen to Family Secrets Season 12 on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Summer's here, and with the kids home and off to camp, it's easy for moms to get lost in the shuffle.
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