The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - 85 SOUTH SHOW | INFRASTRUCTURE & VOTING W/ KEISHA LANCE BOTTOMS DC YOUNG FLY, KARLOUS MILLER, & CHICO BEAN

Episode Date: August 15, 2026

They kick the show off by revealing that Chico Bean had a childhood experience in the White House in Washington DC. DC Young Fly inquires about Keisha Bottoms Interest in politics and why she deci...ded to fight For the people through politics. With Chico’s daughter coming to Atlanta - where Mrs. Bottoms was once the mayor- Chico asks for advice to give to young women in Atlanta. Karlous asks every hot button question and starts with homelessness, explores flock cameras, data centers, cop city and more. The hosts of The 85 South Show even get an inside scoop on casinos being on the Georgia ballot. This is a real comfortable conversation with the soon to be Governor of Georgia, Keisha Lance Bottoms. Subscribe To Our Streaming Service Channel 85 https://bit.ly/SubscribeToChannel85 Shop Our Merch! https://bit.ly/85Jetlife2024 .................... CHAPTERS: 01:33 FAMILY HISTORY & SLAVERY 03:40 VISITING THE WHITE HOUSE 11:11 HOMELESSNESS IN GEORGIA 15:17 LESSONS LEARNED WHILE BEING THE MAYOR 19:34 ATLANTA TRAFFIC, VOTING AND PROPERTY TAXES 34:41 INCARCERATION AND REHABILITATION INTO SOCIETY 42:54 SLANDER IN POLITICS 49:16 THE IMPORTANCE OF HAVING A GOOD CAMPAIGN STRATEGY 01:09:47 RECREATIONAL AND YOUTH PROGRAMS 01:13:44 SELECTING THE RIGHT POLITICAL TEAM ....................

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Starting point is 00:00:04 We've never been the infrastructure. 85 85 85 We've never invested in the infrastructure that we need to make sure that That's his favorite word. Who?
Starting point is 00:00:27 I'm just glad that somebody said before me. He loves some infrastructure. Some infrastructure. No, that's right. Infrastructure is important. My grandma was born a slave. Really? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:00:38 She was born in 1913. On planet, 1911. On the planet, 1911. On the plantation. And born no slaves? No. No. Well, slavery ended in 1865.
Starting point is 00:00:47 That's what they told you. He ain't like, because I'm from Mississippi. You feel me? They put me and Jesus to the side in a room with other people to be panelled by some people, for them to tell us are we qualified to vote or not. So it was like, because our registration went up to the problem. went up to park, but this is the same registration that you used when I voted the last two times. These flock cameras.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Mm-hmm. They recording people information allegedly. Yeah. Facial recognition. And it's becoming a high thing in Georgia. Have any of that come across your death? Yeah, there's an extensive camera network in this state. Do an August run.
Starting point is 00:01:33 This is the biggest thing that happened in my family. In my, in my campaign, All year long. Yes. So. Oh boy got her like, this big, and we did get you some swag.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Oh. Respect. Now we was doing our research. They said y'all got five generations of family right here. At least. Somebody just sent me a picture of a slave owner. Uh-uh.
Starting point is 00:01:58 I just got it last week. A picture of the slave owner. Uh-huh. Just got it last week. And she believes he may have been, you know, the father because he gave my grandmother's grandfather 500 acres of land. Wow. Yeah, in Crawfordville.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Man. And what happened to the 500 acres? That's a good question. They took it again. That's a good question. You might need to do a little research on that. He on the cotton gin. A fly was just on you.
Starting point is 00:02:30 He's like, so he did a lot that was pretty extraordinary. So we're thinking it must have been, you know, some, Something more than slave slave owner. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. A little collateral. My grandma was born a slave. Really? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:02:48 She was born in 1913. On the plant, 11, on the plantation. Wasn't born no slave? 1911? No. Well, slavery ended in 1865. That's what they told you. He ain't lying.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Because I'm from Mississippi. You feel me? Down five. This shit real down south, boy. He ain't lying. I'm from Mississippi. The slavery ain't officially in Mississippi. To 2013.
Starting point is 00:03:12 2013. Yes, it did. Wow. 2013. I'm from D.C. They freed the slaves there before anybody. Nika, because they all had the industrial going on. No, because they had to build a city.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Now, hold on. You said 1911. Now, you're a Delta. Ain't that the year? No. 1913. 1913. I know what close.
Starting point is 00:03:31 I know it was close. I'm on my Delta. I'm out of. Oh, shit. Oh, sick. Where is she pledged? Marsh Brown. Bumbling brown sugar.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Missed bubbling brown sugar. Oh, oh. Yes, ma'am. Now, have you ever been inside the White House? Yes. You have? In the basement, there's a glass case of the foundation, hopefully it's still there. But it's in a little, like, a janitor's closet, and it's a glass case so you can see the
Starting point is 00:03:59 foundation that the slaves built. Oh, yeah. A lot of people don't know that. The shape of D.C. was supposed to be a full triangle. But when Virginia found out that they freed the slaves, they took the they piece back. That's why I shaped the way that it is. Yeah, damn. What's history on top of history?
Starting point is 00:04:14 And Bannaker designed D.C., right? Mm-hmm. Yeah, I didn't know you had been in the White House. That's what I'm saying. I'm saying messed up by the time. Yeah, twice. I met Bill Clinton. When Clinton was president, they did this program. They had, Colin Powell had this program called the Red Wagon Program. And they sponsored my school, my middle school because it was, you know, it was crazy. We was, you know, like East Side High of a middle school. So they bought them in the kind of restructure everything and I was always one of the people that they would get to talk for the school because I always was good at communication
Starting point is 00:04:44 so we went to the White House and met Clinton twice I walked over his Lord green that he had in his office this putting green he was like so you're just going to trample my green I was like my bad oh daddy I'm dead but yeah I've been in there I've been in there you've been in there last yeah I banned a little bit you've been in an overall yeah I've been in an oval office yes yes yeah I'm the way you have too you've been up there working and making it happen Yes, yes, I have been. But the real question, Ms. Bottles, because, okay, we're trying to bridge the gap here. Uh-huh. Okay, we got... Oh, we feel me? Yeah, we said we've been back.
Starting point is 00:05:19 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. It's part of, baby. It's popped out, baby. We all. We thought this was pre-game chipped down. No, we don't know. This is natural.
Starting point is 00:05:29 We rolled right into it. Get your response. Okay. We got an organic flow over here. Oh, yeah. I was getting warmed up. Okay. We're in the conversation.
Starting point is 00:05:37 The stove is on. No, because we want to bridge the gap, okay? Because a lot of people, they like to steer away from politics. And they don't understand, first of all, the importance of politics, the foundation of politics. And why we need a representative inside that look like us to speak for us. So why did you take on a chance that, you know what, I'm going to be the voice for the people in politics? and why do the people in the streets needs to come in to give their voice?
Starting point is 00:06:12 Yeah, so I always grew up thinking it was for somebody else, but you're a great example. You can see it, you can be it, right? To have people making decisions with you and mine saying this young kid is important enough that he gets to come into the Oval Office of the White House. That's man. And for me, it was just more of a...
Starting point is 00:06:35 And I didn't think that I would ever go on the politics. would ever go into politics it wasn't something that I grew up dreaming about I always thought that was for somebody else it was more organic I was a judge ran for a higher seat on the court loss started going all around Fulton County and I'm like oh wow this is when you have solid representation this is what community looks like so I ran for City Council before running for mayor but now being on this side of of it, every single thing about our lives are influenced by political decisions.
Starting point is 00:07:16 Did that pothole get filled on your street? Nope. Does the bus come down your street? The bus come, but they ain't fixed that pothole. Yeah, I mean, from things big and small, how much are your taxes? A lot. What resources are put into your schools? It's the hospital.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Will it be zoned for your community? I mean, every single decision goes back to a political decision in many ways. So it was, for me, just the honor to have a seat at the table to be able to represent voices that often don't go heard. So for the ones who don't go, can you give them insight on where they can possibly start? Like, for example, it's a lot of people that got opinions and voices. what should happen in the community. But they don't know that they can go somewhere and speak their reasoning. Yeah, there are people who show up every single day in a city hall somewhere,
Starting point is 00:08:16 and you can watch them on public comment. There are people, and that's the thing that sometimes can be a little frustrating. The people who know how to get to you know how to get to you in demand what they need. And the people who often need support. the most don't even know where to start. They don't even know that they're empowered to go and talk to somebody who's in elected office. But some people show up in City Hall. People send you emails. People will write your notes. When I was on City Council, I saved every single card and note that I got and I had them up in my office because it was important. You know,
Starting point is 00:08:57 you can get beat up a lot, but it was important to also remember there were a lot of people who saw the work and appreciated the work and allowing them to be my visual motivation to do what I was doing. I'm the father of a, about to be an 18-year-old, beautiful, beautiful baby, and she's going to school here in Atlanta. And one of the things that I found interesting about you
Starting point is 00:09:22 is that your dad, Major Lance, was an R&B singer. So you grew up with a famous father. Like, what advice would you give to a young black woman getting ready to navigate the city of Atlanta, one with a famous dad and two, just having to navigate the city that you grew up in, what kind of advice would you give? Because as a black woman, one of the things that they always try to restrict you from is having strength and being able to assert yourself in ways that, and I think that you're a great example of that.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So what would you be, what would be an example that you would set for, give to a young woman that's great, navigate Atlanta? Well, now I would just say for you, you are the first man that she's ever loved. so much of your example will be what she looks for in a mate, what she'll accept, what she want to accept. That means that as young women, we're looking for perfection, but there are, you know, how does he treat me? How does he treat the women in his life, et cetera?
Starting point is 00:10:22 And for her, I would just say, you know, the thing I wish I told my 18-year-old self was that I was enough. that I was good enough and that my willingness to try and conform to certain standards, beauty standards, whatever those standards may be, were me diminishing my light. And it didn't serve anybody for me to do that. And I'm so grateful. My daughter, Lincoln is here with me. She's 15.
Starting point is 00:11:05 I'm so grateful to just be an example, not just for my daughter, but for other young women. Like, yeah, you can go for it. You don't have to be apologetic. And again, it's not trying to offer perfection or for anybody to believe that I'm perfect or anything like that. But I do want people to be able to see flawed. all, you can still be all those things and you don't have to apologize for it. I got a question. I faced a lot of comments and criticism.
Starting point is 00:11:42 I was on the show we were talking about the homelessness issue. What were some of the challenges that you faced as the mayor of a city like Atlanta when it comes to dealing with that particular issue? The homeless challenges in Atlanta are, I think, often larger than a lot of other cities. One, because we are warm climate. So that obviously attracts a certain population. But also, I met a former mayor who said this. The worst thing that you can do when you are addressing your homeless issue is to talk about it.
Starting point is 00:12:19 And I said, that's strange. Why when you want people to know what you're doing, he said, because then you're going to attract more people to your city. Now, I don't agree with that. But that being said, Atlanta has had a lot of success in working with a lot of partners addressing homelessness, so whether it be our veterans or whether it be LGBTQ youth. It's much easier to address those easily defined populations. This is a veteran, okay, vet. We got some housing for veterans, and we got some wraparound.
Starting point is 00:12:59 services where you have the counselors and the social workers come to the door, it gets much more difficult when you are at that population, that's suffering from some type of mental illness. They are hardest to reach, often the least resistant to services. You often got to get to them 12 or 15 times before they will even consider accepting support. So it is a huge challenge. That being said, I just saw a woman a couple of days ago who had shared with me that we housed her brother during COVID. He was a veteran, and he is still in that permanent housing because he was able to get the support that he needed.
Starting point is 00:13:47 But it doesn't mean that any leader should ever give up on addressing it, but it is challenging when you get to that that population that's resistant for any number of reasons. And you all probably know this. I had a family member who was brilliant, who at some point experienced schizophrenia and, you know, was practically homeless. So it's hard trying to break through to people who have mental illness. That's a really difficult group.
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Starting point is 00:15:21 What's your name? Big fan. That's what they come. You call you that you laugh. Let me see your wife, let me see your grind. Let me see your wife. Let me see your wife. You've been a judge, you've been the mayor, you're running for governor.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Which one of those positions would you say impacted you the most or taught you the most in regards to what it is that you do? Uh, serving as mayor. I in each spot I learned something new when I was a judge so much of it you mentioned my dad my dad had been incarcerated when I was eight so much of what I tried to practice as a judge was seeing people not just the number this person coming before you but whose daddy is that what's the story what's the family story when I was on city council it was was very fulfilling because I could see a problem. Hey, we need to do a neighborhood clean up here. And we need to work on that. When I became mayor, there were a lot of lessons just in leadership in how you lead, how you make sure that you bring in other people with you when you leave.
Starting point is 00:16:48 I learned a lot, learned a lot from my mistakes. And then going to the White House, as senior advisor to the president, was affirmation. Like, if I can sit in a senior meeting five steps from the Oval Office every morning at the beginning of my day, and I can hold my own when I sit across in the Reservoir Desmond Despercent of the United States,
Starting point is 00:17:17 then I can do anything. I heard you say affirmation. Now, speaking on affirmation, first of all, being a woman, African-American woman amongst a male dominant situation.
Starting point is 00:17:38 We learn from our trials and our tribulation. Was there ever a moment because with these positions that come with a lot of power and a lot of pressure? Was there ever a moment where you were like, you know what?
Starting point is 00:17:50 Man, I'm not cut out for this. What did you have to learn to say, you know what, I must overcome any situation that I face, especially when the people is dependent on me. I never felt that way. Part of it goes back to my childhood. When I was eight, I came home one day, my daddy was being led away in handcuffs. Everything about our lives changed.
Starting point is 00:18:14 So I always knew I was resilient. For me, it was more, and my dad died suddenly when I was 50, when he was 50. He was 55. So when I turned 51, I started looking at life and mortality very differently. And I know you've experienced sudden loss. When you lose somebody suddenly, it's like that is, that's a marker in time. Sure. And it was, if I have four more years on this earth, if God only gave me four more years,
Starting point is 00:18:50 what do I want that four years to look like? and so I never felt that I couldn't do it. I think, in fact, if I ever felt I couldn't do something, I was going to push harder to prove that I could. It was, you know, what does this mean for my family? What does this mean for me? And then making decisions from there. And my therapist said to me, and I love how she described it,
Starting point is 00:19:21 She said, you were a strong mayor. I want you to be a powerful governor. And I said, what's the difference between strong and powerful? She said, strong people push through. And they have strokes and heart attacks and high blood pressure and they die. She said, powerful people stop and they feel and they process. And they learn the lessons. And then, and only then do they move on?
Starting point is 00:19:46 So I would say the difference with me as I sit here today is I am dead focused on always being powerful and not just being strong. That makes sense. And I got another question. This is major for anybody who live around here. Yeah. What are we going to do about this traffic? Somebody needs to do something about this traffic. We got this traffic.
Starting point is 00:20:13 No, I mean, it really is bad. It can take me from, I was so glad that y'all on the south side, because I was coming from my house on the south side. Because, you know, it can... We're on north side, south side, east side, west side. In Alabama. It can take, you know, over an hour just to go a few miles in metro Atlanta, especially. There are a lot of issues there. We've never fully funded mass transit.
Starting point is 00:20:41 We've never invested in the infrastructure that we need. need to make sure that's his favorite word who I'm just glad that somebody said before me he loves some infrastructure some infrastructure no that's right infrastructure is important I didn't know that word before I got on city council infrastructure I didn't know what I meant um but again going back to why elected officials matters somebody sitting in the room deciding where that money is going and how how money is going to be put toward traffic and how traffic and how traffic lights are timed and all of that's made by somebody in a planning department in somebody's government.
Starting point is 00:21:24 And they, and the government doing that? It's funding. Funding and planning. Now, another big issue is these flock cameras. Mm-hmm. They recording people information allegedly and facial recognition. And it's becoming a high thing in Georgia. Have any of that come across your death?
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah. There's an extensive camera network in this state. When it's used for the right purposes, it can help you help police officers solve a crime. It can find a missing person. They be solving a crime. Yeah. That's it. You can track people.
Starting point is 00:22:00 You can also be prosecuted for a crime with those, you know, depending on... Make them look in your car, Nick. They be looking anyway. That's what I'm bringing the cameras up. Whether they, you want them looking or not, they're looking. You know, that's the double-edged sword. Because if somebody wants police patrol in their neighborhood, for example, you're not going to be able to have somebody on, you know, a lot of senior citizens will ask, well, I need more police patrols in my neighborhood. Well, you're not going to be able to have somebody on every street on every corner.
Starting point is 00:22:36 But sometimes cameras can be helpful, but also there are complaints because people are concerned that it's an invasion. a privacy and that everybody's constantly under surveillance. I got a real question. Properly trained. I got a question because I feel like this is a small city hall council meeting. And we get a one-on-one with the future governor. You know, like I keep putting that out there. Future governor.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Property taxes. Yeah. It's a lot of elderly people that have been owning their homes for 20, 30 years. And we speak a lot on this show about generational wealth and how people, life insurance, that's the one key goal. If you don't have any type of income, at least you know you got that to pass on to your children. How do we sustain ownership when you have tax assessors
Starting point is 00:23:32 coming on your property giving a estimate of what they think you should pay on something you've been owning for you. years and once he goes up these people 70 80 years old on fixed income fixed income they can't pay seven thousand on a property that was once 2,500 at the end of the year and then they pile up if they don't pay how do we I don't want to say take away property tax because the property taxes fund the schools the fires the firefighters the policing it funds that how do we get into a fixed income with property tax I think there there are several things that
Starting point is 00:24:18 you can do one thing when I was on city council in that land I introduced something called displacement free zone legislation so on the west side of Atlanta we created a fund that would help senior citizens offset pay their property taxes when I was mayor we created an affordable housing trust fund that help pay property taxes, help people with affordable housing, you know, down payment assistance gave us a lot of flexibility. I would love to see us do that statewide because that's a huge problem. The other big problem we have in this state is with air property. Your grandparents passed, they lead the house to your uncle and then they're.
Starting point is 00:25:11 then his son moves in and then nobody's ever cleared the title. Never. So it's often difficult for them to access resources to be able to make repairs or help pay the property taxes or whatever it can be. So that's one thing we need to really do a deep dive on cleaning up air property, helping people get clear title to their property. One of the things that I always say growing up in Washington, D.C., I'm from the city of politics,
Starting point is 00:25:41 and one of the reasons why I've never really been too keen on politics is because I say that, you know, people send representation to my city to get things changed in their cities, but we watch these people ride through the conditions that you want change where you're from and can care less. So one of the things that I always say is, you have to have somebody who's willing to fight for what you have going on.
Starting point is 00:26:04 And in Atlanta, you know, that's the big city, but Georgia, you're running for governor. So what would you tell people that you know don't have anybody that they feel like are fighting for them why should they want kisha lands bottoms to be the person fighting for them in washington dc somebody asked me this question i walked into a barbershop in valdosta like what difference does it make to me how's my life going to change because when you go into a lot of communities outside the metro area it feels like you've gone into a time machine that nobody's been there nobody's caring about them they're not
Starting point is 00:26:40 feeling the difference. And what I said to them was, let me tell you things that I care about. I care that hospitals are closing across the state. I care that small businesses aren't getting the support they need. I care that public education has not been fully funded since 1985 when I was in the marching band at Frederick Douglass.
Starting point is 00:27:05 Tokyo. You know. He was in the band. You were in the band. Played Snedra. All right. I could see that for sure. I played clarinet.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Played clarinet. That why you're so soft as well. You know, and going through those things that I want to work on and I want to address. And as we start talking more about these things, I said, I care about people who've been incarcerated and having a meaningful opportunity to have a second chance when they come out of prison. Like, I've got a program for that. So when I started talking about things that were of interest to him, then he's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:27:45 And at the end, we took a picture together. So, like, even what struck me today when I got ready to come here, my 24-year-old son, Lance, who never wants to do anything with me. When I said, I'm coming here, he's like, I want to go. Because you all talk about things that are, interest to him. And whether it's in Atlanta, whether it's in Val Doste, wherever it is across the state, people have to know why it makes a difference to them. What difference is it going to make in my community? And, you know, I don't want to be the person who just shows up for a vote
Starting point is 00:28:27 and then not be able to say I did anything to help the community. So it matters to me. Now, you know, we're in the entertainment business and, you know, for a while, it was a lot of A lot of movies being shot in Georgia. Like when you're the governor, are we going to keep that going, or are we going to bring some of those incentives back to get their entertainment back to where it was in Georgia? It's a big industry in this state.
Starting point is 00:28:51 A lot of young people going to college to be trained for jobs in the film industry. We're not only just competing with other states now. Now we are competing overseas, and you're competing with AI. So I believe we need to do whatever we can do to make sure that the film industry still has a strong presence here because it's good for our economy. It's good for the people of this state. They have an opportunity to train and get these well-paying jobs.
Starting point is 00:29:30 And LeBron on the move, too. That niggas in Philly. They're saying he going to fly in from New York. They're saying it's a 45-minute helicopter ride. I got to have some neighborhood he can be comfortable. All that bike riding in Philly cheese state, that nigger didn't come for that. That nigger is coming for championship on. You don't need no ATV, them four-wheeler.
Starting point is 00:29:49 Man, he don't want to hear all that. He don't want to hear all that at night. That man, at 40 years old, he needs some rest. Come on, Philly, Philly. Hold on wait a minute. Yeah, hey, all right, turn it, cut it on. He can't wait to get in that locker room, tell them young thing cut the music down.
Starting point is 00:30:06 Looking at this lineup, Tyrese Max, Edge Cohn, Jaylon Brown for sure is an all-star. LeBron James at 41 years and goddamn 12 months. Mbid. Is that better than the Knicks right now? For sure. He gonna make them all step up and play like their best game. This is the best team meet up been on with niggas in their prime.
Starting point is 00:30:24 When people stay hurt, like Mb, I have a problem giving them a nod, man. Because the motherfucker can't stay healthy. Yes, I know what he can do. But has the motherfucker done it on a consistent basis? That's what the question mark lies. You use that nigger laying on that table like a bad bitch every year. Every year. That nigga is going to get some work, though.
Starting point is 00:30:42 I don't know if it's for basketball or stuff. Get a lay up in the hotel for a couple days. But that nigga has a fire on every August. Yeah. To October. This year, no fire. He's ready to play. You're fishing me off.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Say you just play 50-60 games. Long as you ready for the motherfucking playoff. Now, my old people wanted me to ask you because I'd be hanging out with a lot of old people. You know they want some casino. Oh, yes. I do too. I want it on the ballot. Tokyo talk!
Starting point is 00:31:16 We did our research now. We went to the people and we had live poker. Please put some live poker in that night. I wanted on the ballot of my son Lance and I were talking about this. He was talking about some other things that he wants to be on the ballot. But it's estimated $300 million can come in a year through casino gambling in this state. And people say, oh, you know, gambling problems, et cetera. I'm like, well, when my mama wants to gamble, she drives to Alabama.
Starting point is 00:31:46 She's still going to gamble. I'm not, because we don't have it here. It's not stopping her. She's going to get in her car and go to Cherokee, North Carolina, or Alabama or wherever she goes. I would like for us to keep that money here. Dealers in casinos are union jobs. Those dealers often make six figures. I mean, it's a whole economy that goes along with casinos.
Starting point is 00:32:18 So, yeah, and I think it can help us fill in some of these gaps, whether it be support of transportation and infrastructure, education, health care. One of the things about another thing about politics is, you know, black men are low in numbers when it comes to, you know, voting and, you know, boating and you know just going out to the polls and I think this because a lot of the things that we care about aren't addressed like in Georgia one of these are some of the you know most disparaging laws towards fathers like you know going to court and getting you know your rights to your child and all of that type of stuff so like what would you say to those guys
Starting point is 00:33:00 who feel like you know man I ain't no point of me going out you know I can't even go to court and get you know legitimized to my child as just you know the child support law is and all the things are making it so difficult for black men to do what it is that we're judged on doing, but people don't know the backstory. Like, what would you say to those men in regards to your care about helping them become more involved in the city life and the government and everything? You know, again, when we show up, then we are seeing. And there's a lot, first of all, I don't, I think black men unfairly pegged sometimes as
Starting point is 00:33:39 not participating. The numbers may be a little lower than some other groups, but it's, you know, black men aren't just sitting out elections. I also don't think it's fair to act like it's the responsibility of black men to carry elections. I could say all of our responsibility. But that being said, again, it all matters. Judges are elected. Those child support laws were passed by somebody sitting in the state capital. Those people were on the ballot and they were elected. So it may not be perfection in terms of your list of ten most important things that you're getting. But if your voice is heard on five of those things, then it can make a difference.
Starting point is 00:34:28 And you can move the needle. And then you can elect people who are more favorable to whatever your concerns are. You know why black maternal mortality is a big conversation topic? Because people recognize that black women show up in big numbers to vote. So it's a big topic. And I would just say for black men having that, whatever that thing is, that, and I'm not seeing black men are monolith, but like what is that thing that black men, want elected officials to focus on.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Like being able to articulate that and saying if you focus on these things, then, you know, we'll come out in bigger numbers. Now, I did want to ask you this. We were talking about incarceration briefly. You said your father was incarcerated. Like, what would you say to some of the young black men who made the mistake and are trying to get back into society? and, you know, do things right this time.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Are there going to be resources and things for them as well? I'll tell you, like, my mom said her neighbor used to tell her, it's the called and uncalled. Everybody's done something. And I would say for black men who had been incarcerated, you know, life is often about second chances. Yeah, but sometimes they come home and they don't have the resources and the things that they need to try. try to get back reacting. When they labeled a felon, so would. So one thing that I want to do, I want most of our prisons in Georgia are in communities
Starting point is 00:36:13 with technical and community colleges. I want to make sure that we have training in our prisons for people who will be completing their sentences so that they can't come out with a steel or trade or even if they want to complete their college degree. I think that should be fully available to people. And we can do it by partnering with our technical and community colleges and our university system. Also, and we did it in the city of Atlanta.
Starting point is 00:36:46 We had a job training program. People who were incarcerating the city jail were going out every day working for the warded department. They came out with full-time jobs when they completed their sentences. They were able to put money away for child support, et cetera. something like that is possible in the state. But then we even got to go more basic than that. A lot of people, my experience, when I was judge, a lot of people who showed up in court
Starting point is 00:37:13 hadn't finished eighth grade, hadn't finished ninth grade. So you know there's a literacy issue there. Like sometimes it's undiagnosed ADHD or dyslexia or whatever the thing is. When you have somebody who's incarcerated, you have their attention. you can address those issues too, helping them learn to read and write
Starting point is 00:37:35 so that they can be prepared to go to the next level. And now I'll tell you another issue I've heard recently, and I think, you know, I go back to my daddy because when I used to go visit him around the state, there's a room full of people who look just like him and children who look just like me. And the choices he made, because his music had stopped.
Starting point is 00:38:00 selling and he didn't feel like he had any other choices but sell drugs to make ends of meat. But when I think about my daddy, my daddy was just a wonderful person. He was a good, you couldn't find a better person. And he made a horrible mistake. So I think when we look at people not as their worst mistake, but who are they behind this? And I'm not talking about violent offenders who've gone out and raped people and murdered people. Those aren't the people I'm talking about.
Starting point is 00:38:37 And the vast majority of those incarcerated are not those people. I'm talking about these people who you know at some point will complete their sentence and need to go back out into society. I had a man bring to my attention. He said, but the problem I have is there gaps in my resume that I can't explain. because I was locked up for seven years. There are programs that we can design, that you are setting aside work for people
Starting point is 00:39:08 who have completed their sentences, that we can work with our private partners to set aside jobs. But it's got to be intentional work. Speaking on the primary care, because I'm on the borderline when it comes to have friends that are elevated and understand and are knowledgeable to the fact of what politics is,
Starting point is 00:39:31 then I got to go to the projects and try to translate everything I just heard into terms of, and I don't want people to look at people in the hood, like they don't want change. Like you said, it's people that don't know how to talk to them in response of what they're asking for. Can you explain why primary is important and what do people know? need to have in order to register the vote because I was a victim of, I voted every time for Barack, and when it was Keisha time to run, I wanted to make sure I voted for the first African-American woman president. But when I went down now, me and Jesus, so that's how I know it wasn't just me.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They put me and Jesus to the side in a room with other people to be paneled by some people for them to tell us are we qualified to vote or not. So it was like, because our registration went up to part, but this is the same registration that you used when I voted the last two times. So why, we're trying to figure out what was the issue and what do people
Starting point is 00:40:41 actually need to register to vote? So there are a few things at play. There are, they've been purging, removing people from the voting rolls. Right. saying you didn't vote in the last two elections, whatever the number is, and they're taking you off the voting rolls saying you got to vote again. I mean, you've got to register again.
Starting point is 00:41:05 So you've got to check your voter registration. You can go to the Secretary of State's office. Make sure your registration is still active. If it's not, you can register to vote before October 3rd of this year. So everybody can go online today if you are in Georgia. Georgia Secretary of State, check the voter registration, putting your name, date of birth, you can see if you are still active.
Starting point is 00:41:32 I did it recently to check everybody in my house who's eligible. And then if not, you can register online to vote because they will take you off the voting rolls. Now, ideally, when you show up, they should just reactivate you. Yes. Because as long as you're still live, you can still show up and vote,
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Starting point is 00:43:07 What's up, y'all? Shaguerre N'Hale. And it's your girl, Drey, Nicole. And London, we are on the way August 22nd. We'll see y'all soon. Yes, y'all. We outside at the O2 Shepard's Bush Empire. Make sure y'all pull up and come see your girl.
Starting point is 00:43:20 Mm-hmm. Poor Mines.com. Get your tickets now. Cheerio. Mm-hmm. You know, politics gets, you know, can get real ugly, you know, and then the other side, especially now in today's time, they're known to get real, real dirty with the things that they put out
Starting point is 00:43:38 and all of the different ways that they try to, you know, make the other party look lesser than. So how are you going to combat that? Like you know, Michelle Obama say when they go, you know, when they go low, we go high. But sometimes you got to go to hell when they go low. So how do you- Cardiffy said we need to scrub the ground? Yeah, you know, I'm thinking.
Starting point is 00:43:59 How are you navigating that? Because you're entering, you've been elected, you've been a part of the process, you've been in the White House, so you understand politics. But now that it's you, how are you going to combat? And, you know, because the other side, the Democratic side, they want to see somebody who's not afraid to, you know, go back at it. So how do you feel about that process? I mean, I went to Douglas High School. Like, I'm not ever afraid to fight back against somebody.
Starting point is 00:44:29 You know, but every fight is not worth fighting. Yes, ma'am. Part of it is the discipline of what battles do I want to engage in. I'm running against just putting $87 million yesterday. Oh, Rick. So, slick Rick. You know, you're going to see all the. the ads and it's going to be on YouTube and it's going to be everywhere.
Starting point is 00:44:53 It'll probably be running it in the middle of this podcast. You're going to see it everywhere. Not in this. No, they don't see it. Not listening. Not this. No, we're not that. We're going to play that.
Starting point is 00:45:03 We ain't play that shit. Can't Bradbuzzle. No. Hello. But if you do try to come, we'll at least get the money. We'll charge them. So. We'll charge it.
Starting point is 00:45:14 He didn't put it through your campaign. He got the money. He got the money. He does. But we'll mess the audio on. And I'm not mad at him about. I mean, what I'm mad about is he got a billion-dollar no-bid contract for his health care company, and he doesn't even want people to have health care coverage through expanding Medicaid in the state.
Starting point is 00:45:34 That is what I'm mad about. Oh, talk your talk, me, Bob. So I've told my family, turn off the TV, get out the comment. Mm-hmm. Like, you know, and for us, for everybody, just don't be distracted. And people may not, they're not going to agree with everything that I said sitting here today. Somebody's not going to like what I said about police. My truth is my truth.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Somebody's not going to like what I said about voting. I mean, somebody's going to disagree with every, they can find something disagree with, but we got to stop looking for perfection. If we can get, if we can agree on not. out of 10, 8 out of 10, 7 out of 10 things that are important. A 6 out of 10, let's go with that. But this is a guy who says, I'm going to be Trump with a southern tone. I'm going to be Trump's favorite governor.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And you just got to ask yourself, does that align with what I want in my life right now and for my family and my community? And who is it who do you believe will better understand your challenges? and at least try and do right by you. So, and let me just say this. Well, no, I'm not going to say it. I'm going to get in trouble. Yeah, don't say it.
Starting point is 00:46:59 I'm going to say it. Okay, I'm going to. We got your back. Don't see it. Okay. Now, without giving them. My team is going to be very proud of me. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:07 But see, that's the thing. Like, you know, the things that you don't say and reserving yourself in those times, like knowing when the, say, you know what now I am gonna say it and I am gonna let the people know because this so many voters who want to know that you know somebody says something about you they want to see that response and just hearing your story about your dad being incarcerated that's connected to so many people who probably didn't
Starting point is 00:47:33 know that about your history and know that you have those same type of experiences that they have so sometimes they want to see you like man let that shit go excuse my language you know and I found this when I ran for mayor people will insert a narrative. Like, people think you just woke up just like this. Life has always been good. And I wrote a book recently, and I talk about, like, my mom on the hair salon
Starting point is 00:47:59 over across the Mall West End, and my daddy was always, you'll never let, like, see you sweat. You better walk out that door looking your best. So you always walk out trying to look your best and present as your best, but people don't know all the other stuff that you leave behind.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Like, they don't know the days when we will fill up those buckets of water at my mama's salon because the water was cut off at home. You had to take the water home so you could brush your teeth, you could wash up, you could flush the toilet. They don't know about those days
Starting point is 00:48:32 when she'd be standing in that shop working and go to walk out, and the car was gone. Because the car had been reposed. So it's, and this is not, is like, oh, woe, it's me. Like, I'm really grateful all that God has done for me and all that he's allowed me to
Starting point is 00:48:52 overcome and generational curses that have been broken. But what I do know is, but for the grace of God, my daddy had an addiction problem. It's nothing but God's grace that I'm not addicted to drugs because I know how that works. I've seen family members
Starting point is 00:49:11 experience mental health. breakdowns and episodes and completely disconnect from reality. So I know it's nothing but the grace of God that that's not me. But what I do know is that to whom much is given, much is
Starting point is 00:49:26 required. So I'm going to go out every day thinking about people like my family and what I wish they had had, and what I wish somebody had thought to do for them. And that's the
Starting point is 00:49:42 part that I bring to running for office. And that's important. Now, you know what you're up against. You already say your opponent, he got the bag. Without giving them too much of the thoughts, what's your strategy approaching as the mayor? It's the campaign run down. It's the governor. Y'all are my megaphones.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Everybody has the ability to influence somebody. It may be you calling a posting saying, did you register to vote? Did you check your voter registration? I may not have the $87 million, and I'm not even surrendering that. I don't know what God is going to send me to have. But I'm saying right now, he may have the money, but the people still have the power.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Still had the power to show up, still had the power to sit in the barbershop and talk to the person cutting their hair and ask them, are they voting? And telling them why they should vote. It's, you know, you used to call it the hotline, you know, whatever to think. We still have our own respective platforms.
Starting point is 00:50:45 For you all, it's millions of people. For some people, it may be the 20 people on their contact list on their phone. But in May, we were outspent by $100 million. I raised under $3 million. This man wrote himself for a check for $110 million and put it in his campaign. And Democrats still out there.
Starting point is 00:51:11 voted Republicans by 150,000 votes. Ain't the money. And that's another thing. Like, you know, race is such a big issue now, especially with all the things going on in the world. You know, you go on social media, you go on these different platforms, and you see that it's just split down the middle
Starting point is 00:51:33 with all of these different perspectives, and it's based in skin color. So as a black woman, how do you feel the best approach is to get the people who don't look like you to know that you're for them just like you're for us. Yeah, because again, my truth is my truth. I'm not going to sit in a room
Starting point is 00:51:52 full of white people in Emerson or wherever I am and say anything different than I'm staying here. There may be five other things they disagree with, but my truth is going to be my truth. And as I'm moving around and I'm saying, everybody really wants the same things. We want great communities.
Starting point is 00:52:11 We want good health care. We want good jobs. Education. We want great education. We don't want our taxes to be too high. I mean, we all want the same. We want to be able to support our businesses. We all want the same things.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Just how do we get there is the question. What's one issue in Georgia that you feel like has been, that's not talked about as much that's vitally important? You know, something that comes up on every stop that I make. especially with young people's access to mental health care. Young people especially are talking about anxiety and depression and how do they get help not just for themselves but for their family members. And then caregivers are saying I'm burned out.
Starting point is 00:53:02 I don't have support. I need access for my mental health and to be able to help care for my loved one. That's something we don't talk about enough, but it comes up in rooms that I'm in enough that I know that it's a big issue. And our teacher still being severely underpaid, too. Average starting teacher pay in Georgia is $43,000 a year. That's horrible. That's the average starting teachers pay.
Starting point is 00:53:33 So you've got teachers working two and three jobs just to be able to go teach our kids. So that needs to be raised. I do want to eliminate income taxes for our teachers. I think that can go a long way in helping support them. Yeah, for sure. They're watching our children
Starting point is 00:53:49 along. I couldn't do it. That's a long time. I wouldn't do it. In one room? Yeah, you got to have a level of... I said, I know I can do anything. I cannot do that.
Starting point is 00:54:00 I'm certain of that. We were just having a conversation earlier when I was like, you know, where teachers should... Because that's been a big thing for a long... time teachers been underpaid, teachers been underpaid, but if you really sit back and look, the teachers is the main focus point when we drop our children off. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:20 They are with our children the most. That's right. Often more than anybody. Yeah. Yeah. Without question. And me, I'm not a resident of Georgia, but I'm probably going to be very soon because my daughter is going to school here.
Starting point is 00:54:35 And one of the things... Okay, we need you to come on there so you can register the vote. But one of the things that I've noticed is, you know, we've been blessed, you know, all of us. So, you know, we have a little bit more access to information and to do things, but a lot of people are being priced out, especially in the city of Atlanta. Yeah. They're being priced out, you know, people who've lived here for years of, they can't afford to stay in these places that they were raised. And coming from D.C., gentrification has been something that has broke my heart over and over again. So how do you, not just in Atlanta specific, but just in the state of Georgia,
Starting point is 00:55:12 how do you feel like you can combat people being priced out of the city that is, you know, abundant. There's so many opportunities here, but so many people who are from here don't get to benefit from them because they can't afford to live here. Yeah, I mean, it's the, it's the, the rose and the thorn. You got these neighborhoods redeveloping, amenities are coming in, all these things that people often need in communities, but then it's at the expense of the, people who built the communities. So it is, you've got to
Starting point is 00:55:42 be intentional about if somebody is coming in and they are getting money to help build or whatever, making sure that you're carving out affordable in workforce housing saying you've got to set aside this number of units for people
Starting point is 00:55:59 who can, so they can continue to live in this community. Grants, low-interest loans, helping people with down payment assistance. hoping people like I said those property taxes, this taxing people out of communities. A lot of people lose their houses, again, because they can't pay the taxes. My grandparents paid off their house, you know, 30 years ago.
Starting point is 00:56:26 My mother now has that house, but every year when she gets a tax bill, she's complaining about how much money those taxes are and wondering if she's going to have enough to pay the taxes for that year. Because their house is on the west side of Atlanta, and it now sits almost directly on the Atlanta belt line. So, you know, the belt line is cut through a lot of communities in Atlanta, and it is, it shouldn't be at the expense of the people who built these communities. And stuck with these communities when these communities often didn't stick with them. I did notice when you were the mayor, you did get a lot of pushback on some of the things that you wanted to do from the governor, right? In the state of Georgia, what's your plan to not be like that?
Starting point is 00:57:15 You know, I want what's best for the people. So there were things that the governor and I, some things we got along with, a lot of things we didn't get along with. But going back to, am I ever afraid to fight back? No. I was never afraid to fight back against him. And God willing, when I'm elected governor, you know, you get input and you try and work with people as best you can. But there comes a time where sometimes you're just going to have to agree to disagree and everybody's going to have to do what they need to do. Another thing that's very important, I'm an HBCU graduate and you know in comparison to
Starting point is 00:58:03 you know the PWIs and all over the country HBCUs are tremendously underfunded you know what I mean it's so it's difficult to get the financial aid and the scholarships and everything that you need to go to school so in the state of Georgia like what would you say to people who are looking to you know go to HBCUs and support HBCUs and being in a position of the governor how would you help them to elevate and be kind of you know not necessarily on the same playing field as like a Georgia or you know the bigger schools but to be evenly killed in regards to what can come out of HBCU because we produce greatness
Starting point is 00:58:42 but it's so difficult because we come out in a tremendous level of debt we're competing at the same level but you know we're starting down here so how would you just you know close that gap up as the governor I was just having this conversation on my husband this morning I said one of the best Netflix documentary reels I saw was somebody in a folding chair on the sidewalk and it's like me doing the documentary on trying to get my financial aid at my HBCU. Right. Because that's so real. I mean that line. She was going on at Howard. Yeah my my little cousin. My nephew was a victim that they unenrolled her at Howard, you know what I'm saying, because of the money issue. And that's how we started talking about. He's like, how'd that happen? No, I know how.
Starting point is 00:59:27 And I was telling him, I said, when I was at FMU, I said, you could always tell when fees were due because you have a class that you couldn't get a seat in. And when those fees were due, class would be emptied out. Everybody, yeah, gone. So it is, but all that being said, like, there's so much support that our HBCUs need from the infrastructure support, the facilities, the buildings, to helping our kids. kids with scholarship opportunities. So I talked about when you put casino gambling on the table, our HBCUs, they can access a little bit of the Hope Scholarship in Georgia. That's if you have a certain GPA and some other requirements you can get a scholarship, but it's not fully funded. I think there
Starting point is 01:00:13 needs to be intentional funding for our HBCUs. Part of it is that infrastructure issue because the facilities are often not updated. There's still a dorm on on Spelman's campus, I think they're replacing now that doesn't have air. Yeah. My freshman dorm didn't have air. They just got it like two, three years ago. And that's the thing about going to an HBCU that it's the same everywhere. It doesn't matter which one you go to.
Starting point is 01:00:39 You can ask, what's the nasty freshman boy dorm? What's the nasty freshman girls dorm? All of those things are the same everywhere. But somewhere like Georgia, which has two of the most prestigious and more house and Spelman, like for them to still be going through the same things with that, what the alumni that they have, it's like, it's a bigger issue. But, you know, we often don't know what we don't know. Like, we often think we send our tuition, that's enough and it's a lot.
Starting point is 01:01:07 And often families don't have enough to do more. We're not educated in how you create endowments and what that means for schools. Morehouse and, or Spelman especially does better than most, but trying to condition alumni to even give back because for a lot of people who had such a traumatic experience they don't want to give back and that's and I was having this conversation with my 18 year old he was frustrated with some stuff about registration and I said baby whatever HBC you you go to it's gonna be the exact same thing there their consistency so part of that is administrative support I'd never forget when I
Starting point is 01:01:50 got the Georgia States I graduated from FAMU and I got to Georgia State for law school. When I was at FAMU, my financial aid check for the fall always came in December. It was my Christmas money. And when I got to Georgia State and somebody said my check was ready and I went across the street, went to the office, and I saw this window. And I'm like, no, this is not the office. I turn around, I walk out.
Starting point is 01:02:15 I'm like, I thought you said it was across the street. They were like, yeah. I'm like, there's no line over there. I don't understand. Like it was an empty office. Now what? I gave a guy my license and he pulled out my check. And I remember standing there and this is like the end of August.
Starting point is 01:02:30 I was like, this is my check for the fall. Like is ready? Is he here? I was blown away. So I don't profess to understand why we still can't figure out that piece that our HBCUs. But I do believe if in a state like Georgia, if we're able to, get it right at Georgia State. In Georgia and all these other places, there's some best practices that we can help
Starting point is 01:02:56 support our HBCU with. Now, you're really from Atlanta. I want to ask you this. Do you have a favorite era of Atlanta? Oh, that's a great. It would have to be the 80s. I mean, I was in high school in the 80s. I was in middle school in the 80s and high school in the 80s.
Starting point is 01:03:17 So Greenbriott Skating Rink, Greenbriam Mall. You know, like all the things. Greenbri had a skating ring? You just put me on some. Greenbri had a skating ring? No, the skating ring. It was called Greenbri's Skating Brin. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:03:32 Where? Over off Fairbrook. It's the A.K.A. House now. That was the skating rink. I ain't know that. That was the skating rink over on Hogan Road. You put me up on. Greenbri's skating rink.
Starting point is 01:03:44 Greenbride skating rink. Now, you grew up where you, with the Atlanta Child Murder of Time. I did. You remember that? Very well. I remember that very well. That was between 79 and 81, I think, that was a scary, scary time.
Starting point is 01:04:10 Because literally children were disappearing. I remember being at church one Sunday, I went to church at First Corinth, missionary Baptist on Bankhead. Kmart used to be across the street. It's where K. Mike and T.I. built some housing there now. And a boy, his name was Curtis Walker, disappeared coming from that Kmart. I think he lived in Bowen Holmes. He was helping people, like, load their groceries. He had disappeared from them. They found him on Camden Road. First or second child disappeared leaving the skating rink.
Starting point is 01:04:50 walking home from the skating rink. So, like, so much was happening in our community. And I remember being at church one Sunday and standing in the parking lot and people talking about the little girl who had been, I think it was Angel Lanier, who had been taken out of her window. Like, so you remember a lot of the names. Yusuf Bail, I remember his name very well. He went to school with my cousin.
Starting point is 01:05:19 my cousin later told me they questioned him because he was one of the last people who see him alive. So it was this era in Atlanta that a lot of people didn't even know about. When I was mayor, I reopened the cases. And we did a memorial that now sits on the grounds of the City Hall and honor them. And we had their portraits hanging up in the airport. Because, I mean, these were kids like me. I mean, I was of the age that these kids were when they were disappearing. So we had some of the DNA testing done just to try and just close out any questions.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And then Wayne Williams lived on Penelope right there in Dixie Hills. My great aunt lived on Penelope. Like it literally was happening in our community. Do you remember what the community response was to that time? Everybody was on it. And I just saw a clip recently of the Jackson's at the airport. I remember when they came to do the concert for the reward money. So every day on the news, it was another child is missing.
Starting point is 01:06:28 Another child's body's been found. There was one child who was never found, Darren Glass. And when I was mayor, I was working with the police department and some others to go back and see if they could locate his remains. they believed he was somewhere off a red wine road near Camp Creek Marketplace. Like, it was so impactful to me. That's why I remember these details. So it was a horrible, horrible time in our city.
Starting point is 01:07:04 Yeah. Did they ever catch the person? Wayne Williams is incarcerated. based on what I know, you know, it looks like the evidence was directly connected to him. You know, the governor is, you know, it's a big position. But like you said, you're from Atlanta, born and raised in Atlanta, and this is, you know, the black metropolis, you know, just as a city overall, how is Atlanta being the mayor of Atlanta, the councilwoman, the judge, how has that prepared you for running a state of Georgia?
Starting point is 01:07:45 And I'll just go back to this part. Some believe he was not responsible for all of the killings. There's still somebody out there who was not held accountable. For me, I mean, it's been a lifelong preparation even when I didn't know I was preparing the run for governor. So all the things I've talked about, these life experiences, this, the, ability to lead to make decisions when you don't even have a blueprint for how to make decisions that was the case with me when I was mayor biggest cyber attack in the history of a municipality yeah in the country you know we want one COVID social
Starting point is 01:08:33 justice movement with George Floyd and and and Trump was the president that And we still finished with four years of a balanced budget, $180 million in the bank, those 7,000 units of affordable housing, that's affordable housing trust fund, and these things we were able to accomplish. And, you know, again, going back to spending that time in the White House, seeing how things get done at the highest level was preparation. I didn't even know it was preparing me for this because I wasn't planning on running. for governor. But the day after the presidential election, I got, you know, I cursed and then I
Starting point is 01:09:17 prayed. Like, what am I called to do in this moment? And for me, it was getting out of the comfort zone and say, I got to get back in the ring and fight for us. That's all I know how to do. Now, I want to ask you this. It's still a fairly new thing, but it is being talked about nationwide when it comes to the AI data center. Has that come across your desk at all? Yeah, people have asked me what my position is on that. I think we need to pause on them. Because people don't know the difference with facts and fiction,
Starting point is 01:09:52 because we don't have all the information. You know, people talk about how high their power bills are. I'm like, I can't blame that on data center. And water, too. And water. Like, my bills were already high. So, but I believe people when they say they're driving up their power bills, I believe people when they say their water's dirty.
Starting point is 01:10:13 I just think we need to figure out what's real, what's not, and then figure out how we go from there. So I think we need to pause them. I come from an era of recreational children, to youth programs. And I'm hands-on with a lot of the kids in the city, and I see how some can deteriorate and go this way and go that's way because they don't have nowhere to hang at.
Starting point is 01:10:38 They don't have no programs, and I see a lot of the recreational, especially in Atlanta, they're shutting down. So are there any things into regards of, like, what type of programs we're going to have for the children in the summertime, like camp best friends? We knew about all these things. Like, when my sister was in them, I couldn't wait to be 13s. I could be in the teen program and do all these things. So it's like, are there any programs in development for the children?
Starting point is 01:11:04 Because it's a lot of recreationists that's being shut down. Yeah, you know, again, funding these decisions that come out of government, there's somebody in government making a decision how much money is going toward funding recreation in this state. The budget of the state starts in the governor's office. So the governor says this is what I want as my priorities, and then it goes from there through the legislative process. One thing is I was really proud of when I was mayor. We created a training program for the water boys. And we said, if you come into this program, we'll give you a gift card every month, if you sit through this entrepreneurship training. The November before my term ended, a grandmother came up to me, her son that finished the program, she said, you don't know how much this meant to us.
Starting point is 01:11:57 Last year, we had hot dogs for Thanksgiving. This year, we had a turkey because my grandson bought it with his gift. gift card from this program. They would get a gift card every month. So when you hear stories like that, you know that it's changing lives. But I made the decision with our budget in the city to help fund that program. We had just closed the Centennial Yards transaction right outside of Mercedes-Benz Stadium. Out of this huge real estate transaction, biggest in the southeastern United States, we created
Starting point is 01:12:33 some affordable housing we did an affordable housing trust fund of a child savings account for all the kindergartners in Atlanta public schools so y'all wonder where Trump got that idea from he got it from me in Atlanta we created this this training program for the ward of boys and the list goes on and it is we've got cuts that are coming that are making that more making it more difficult for cities to be able to provide programs. And I believe that's when the state needs to help step in and fill in those gaps. Because for a lot of our kids, especially, if they aren't in programs in the summer, they don't eat.
Starting point is 01:13:18 Right. They don't do nothing. They just sit and right. Yeah. A lot of kids rely on free lunch and breakfast. Those are the only meals they get during the day. And then they often get them in these programs too. Why do you think it's so controversial when the word black comes into politics?
Starting point is 01:13:37 Like anything that may benefit or help black people, they always seem to try to shut it down or try to make it seem like it's one-sided? Because you have Donald Trump saying that's a problem, and you have, yes, people around him who are saying that's a problem. He's got people afraid, which goes back to this guy I'm running against. He said, there's not a single policy. I disagree with Donald Trump on. So when Donald Trump says,
Starting point is 01:14:06 get rid of all DEI programs, DEI is bad, this guy said, I agree with everything that he said. You, you know, as the mayor you know and just as a public official, one of the most important things is the team that you select,
Starting point is 01:14:23 like the people that you surround yourself with. So how have you been able to, you know, what is the process that you go through and selecting the right people. What do you look for in people? Because I think that can help a lot of people in regards to what they surround themselves with. Because a lot of people feel because they surround themselves with the wrong kind of people and look at the wrong characteristics in people. So you've been doing it long enough. What are some of the important things that you feel are necessary in selecting people to be in your circle or on your team?
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah. You know, I've read this book, First Line, Good is the enemy of great. So you want to surround yourself with people who aren't just good. They are good. great. You don't want to be the smartest person in the room. Some people are intimidated by people who know more than them. Iron sharpens iron. You want people who are as smart if not smarter than you because you need experts of all kinds. And then the other thing, sometimes you don't have anything but your intuition to go on. That sixth sense. The thing that says, he looks good on paper, but something just ain't right about that. Remember, there was somebody on my team,
Starting point is 01:15:38 and my husband's like, you need to watch that person. And I'm like, but, da, da, da, da, da, da. He's like, something ain't right. And he was right. So sometimes you just feel things that you can't always process. Look, we ain't going to keep you here all day, But we got a thousand questions. You might have to swing back.
Starting point is 01:15:59 You'll tell you, y'all do a double back. You know, November right around in the corner, you know, do an August run. This is the biggest thing that happened in my family in my campaign all year long. Oh, boy, got 1008 minutes. We did get you some swag. Okay, but you know what's funny? My son, Lance, I walked out the door. He was like, hey, whatever swag they give you, give it to me.
Starting point is 01:16:25 Straight up. Man. Gotta get him another bag. Get him another bag. Get him a bag. Get him a bag. You got to get him another bag. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:16:33 You got to give him a boost for me. Get him another bag. Well, he will be happy. Lincoln, no, you cannot have it even. Lincoln, get her back. Get her back. We open this thing you guys. We just know, we love you and we support you.
Starting point is 01:16:45 You ever need us. For sure. Being from the city. You represent the city very well. You're very stylish lady. We're behind you, 100%. This is, this is been great. Good luck on your campaign.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Well, y'all are very astute. Y'all are up on all the things that are important. I appreciate you all. Thank you. I appreciate the conversation. I appreciate the thoughtfulness. I just appreciate you all being a voice. Speaking to people and being able to translate things that often go unheard, that's super important.
Starting point is 01:17:22 So I'm grateful for you all. We got a hell of the track record, too. Everybody called on this show winning. All right, fan. And, you know, winning. Pudos to you, you know, like I said, you know, I'm a father of a, you know, as a father of a black woman, a young black woman, I know how important it is to have examples that, you know, are set that they can follow and see greatness and see strong,
Starting point is 01:17:47 not willing to deter regardless of what people say and for you to be in the position that you've been in for so long through your background and through everything that you've been through and still be willing to stand tall in the face of all the adversity that comes with this position. Salute to you, Black woman. Thank you. Hey, this is the AFF show and this has been a conversation with Ms. Keisha Landisb. Everybody go vote?
Starting point is 01:18:10 Go vote. Thank you. Thank you. Let's get a great. What's up y'all? It's your girl, XP. Andy's your girl Jory and Nicole. Clayton English.
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