The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Advice 4 Single Wiminz w/ DCYoungFly, Karlous Miller Chico Bean & Kenny Burns | Ep. 245

Episode Date: July 17, 2020

Legendary hip hop lifetstyle specialist Kenny Burns comes through the studio to talk about Jay-z's Honda Civic station wagon, his Black-Owned Whiskey "Uncle Nearest" and freaknik in Atlanta. Plus Kenny Burns explains how he's getting paid to give advice to single wiminz! DC Young Fly, Karlous Miller and Chico Bean hold it down bringing the laughs! #85southshow #mukbang https://85apparelco.com/ SUPPORT THE SHOW! FOLLOW THE CREW KARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/ DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/ CHICO BEAN - https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolFool/ BILLY SORRELLS - https://www.facebook.com/billysorrells/ FAT AND PAID - https://www.facebook.com/Fatandpaid/ DARREN BRAND - https://www.facebook.com/darrenbigbab... CLAYTON ENGLISH - http://www.claytonenglish.com/ JOE T. NEWMAN - http://www.ayoungplayer.com CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/ LANCE CRAYTON - https://www.instagram.com/cat_corleone_/ J.O.N - https://www.instagram.com/heeeyj_o_n/ CRIAG GRAVES - https://www.instagram.com/craigshoots23/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Hey, man, this is a special one. Especially for me, man, for those who don't know who might not know who this gentleman is sitting next to me, this is Kenny Burns, the lifestyle specialist, man. And, you know, for those who don't know, I'm born and raised in Washington, D.C. If you were 85% of course, you know that.

but this gentleman is as well. And when I first was kind of in that transition phase of what I wanted to do with my life, I came upon a documentary that this gentleman put out and it motivated me to do what I'm doing now. So everybody got their person that they say, you know, they look up to, they idolize and all that. For me, I always say, man, Kenny Burns.

And people are like, who is that? Thank you. Well, now you know who it is. It's doing sitting right here. Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate that. Oh, no problem, Judge. Let me hit him with one. before you even do it.

Let me hit him in one. Welcome back to the 85 South Show. This is the only podcast you can tune in to and see the guests get crab leg juice squirted on them. I'm telling you, we got a very special guest in the house of that man, man, Chico was saying, DC getting busy on the crab leg. Fucking right.

And we're in this motherfucking man. Y'all from the same hood, Chico. Ain't nobody allergic to, you know. I am, but I gotta eat them to be allergic. You allergic to what? The crab. God damn it, Chico, man. I eat it, you good.

It ain't like peanut butter. Yeah, if I smell it, I'm good. If you had a peanut butter sandwich. And you smell it, you scrape. Yeah, I had to go through the car you did that. Damn, man. Yeah, you good. You sure.

Yeah, I like the fact that you act like me being allergic would make you stop eating them motherfuckers the way you fucking love. I'm just trying to make sure now. You're just showing a little concern. Yeah, that's all. But yeah, man. Man, let's get to it, bro. Kenny, man.

At first, I just want to start off by saying, man, thank you. You know what I mean, for being somebody who gives somebody from where I'm from, the motivation of, be better and you from the streets and you know you did all of that good stuff but my first question to you is why atlanta uh freak nick shit great answer no real talk my cousin uh i got locked up my senior high school that october he had went to school uh the following september and i was on paper so i couldn't really you know what i'm saying so he's telling me you know there was no social media so he couldn't see what was going on so he's like man i'm telling

this shit is crazy you gotta see these joints name man yeah i'm like i bet you know i can't go no way i want to hear about this shit right so 92 um spring he like man can you can you come down here can you check with your p o see if you can come to Atlanta they got this shit called freaking i'm like what the fuck is a freak in he's like man i'm telling you it's like black college heaven you got to come down there and i'm like all right let me see what i could do so i got with my p i was like look i'm trying to go down to uh i had to pick a school was morris brown because that's the the only one that would accept me the best yeah that's the only one you know what's how about more brown the best for them folks called out of mind i'm going to go down there because i want to go to school

can i go visit the school blah blah blah i ain't tell him i was going to freak nick but he was like yeah no go down there check it out whatever you got to be back by this day da da-da-da i went down there man i never in my life you know dc 10 mile about 10 miles so you don't really see the world i'm i've been blessed to travel my mother moved around a lot when i was young so i got to see things But coming down here, I saw people like me from everywhere. You know what I'm talking about? And then back in the day, you know, you have to go, people had to go talk about you.

You couldn't just post yourself and talk about what you do, this, that, and the third. So my cousin had been evangelizing that I was just gangster and all the stuff. So when I came out, I knew everybody. That's your cousin. That's the one you told her. And so long story short, I fell in love with it. And I came back home, did what I had to do, you know, because I wasn't about to go on campus to get an apartment and some jewelry.

And I got down that fall. I enrolled in Morris Brown. I was here. Best shit in the world. And literally, because of Atlanta, like, you know, I've been here off and on since 92. So half my life, I've been here, I raised my kids here. So I'm, you know, it's my home, you know what I'm saying?

And it's crazy because when I came in 92, that's when, you know, Jermaine Dupreece sold 4 million records with crisscross. Right. You know, So So Devils starred and you had Rowdy Records starting. You had LaFace Records planted in the soil and doing their things. So it was really the start of the music boom here. Right. which was a blessing in of itself.

And I got in when I fit in immediately. Shit, I was born in that. How did you get the title, The Lifestyle Specialist? Like, what goes into that? What does that mean to you? You know, I didn't really like the suck of shit that went on in the music business. So I was always one foot in, one foot out.

You know, because I used to put my hands on people young. When I'm from, like, you know, that light skin, dark skin thing was a real thing. And we used to rumble. They ate some, fuck you're looking at. And so growing up, I had to fight a lot. And I just didn't like the sucker shit that would go on in music, you know what I'm saying?

And I had the opportunity to realize my skill set in my early 30s, which is marketing and branding. And I just, you know, put one foot in front of the other. I didn't really know that my opinion could get me paid. I'm talking about paid. Like, you know, you can get in the door with the right conversation. You can impress somebody with the right conversation.

But I didn't know you could get paid for an idea. And so I had an opportunity. My friend had a $5 million account with Axe Body Spray. And she, and I didn't know how she got the account, because everything I had heard today, it was these big companies, like gray advertising, Unleworld, all these companies, they got all the business. And she's like, I got this account,

but I need your help. I know you know Jay Z and them. I know you know all these people. Can you help me? I was like, absolutely. And so putting the plays together, I was in these rooms in corporate America. And you can't just say, you're the pottenor,

you're the friend, you know what I'm saying? You have to actually have some type of title. And they kept introducing me, I mean, although I had success in the music business at that point, I had signed a girl group named Dream, second biggest debut, behind the Spice Girls. I had, you know, so I'd helped Jay-Z with reasonable down, Dame Dash, and Big, and Monica was my first artist, I had done things, but I was transitioning because I ain't

like the business, and that's when I decided to call myself the lifestyle special. They would call me a lifestyle expert. I ain't, I wasn't old enough. I felt, and had done enough to be an expert, you know what I'm saying? But I just was like, you know what? I'm definitely able to put the pieces together, and that's how I started. What was your introduction? My bad.

introduction to the music game because you know yeah skip over all that shit you named all a legendary group of people and I tell you you know I'm I let you explain but even though I know all this information like 26 oh 2 was your 26 20 26 20 20 my bad yeah 2620 was your party promotion company now and you started throwing parties you know and that's a big big staple here in Atlanta so like is that how you got to the introduced to the artists or was it just your own no I got I was introduced to the artist being in the street. You know, when I was coming up, 16 years old,

I was in all the clubs popping off. And this is when Puff was at Howard. And he, you know, he was Jodicey, man. He was, like, dressing like the niggas. Like, so all the school motherfuckers, we liked to be around because they had all the college girls, you know what I'm saying? And so we just be in the mix,

and that's how I met a lot of them. And then when I came here, I had the opportunity to throw parties. Like, you know, there was this group of colleges that really didn't fuck with the city. Like in 92, the city wasn't fucking, Atlanta wasn't fucking with the school like that. And it wasn't like y'all was, it wasn't like this. You know what I'm saying?

It was like, them school nigs fuck them like that. We fight all types of wild shit. But because we was in the street, we knew everybody. And so when Al Capone's, Deion was a hair salon, like we started messing with all the hairstyle, all the lady hairstyle, you know what I'm saying? And just kind of integrating within the city. And they were like, oh, they all right. And then as like the Shanti Dazas and everybody became industry executives, they would bring

all the outcasts and all that to the school party, because that was the mecca of Atlanta. Like really, it was. Like, you know what I know from that era and obviously prior to mine, they came here and never left. They came to Atlanta and never left. It was quality of living.

You could see your money. You know, biggest spectrum of black colleges, you also had Georgia Tech, Georgia, Georgia State. So, you know, it was one of them things, but like I ain't really need the industry. It kind of came, I'm sorry, I didn't intend to need or want to be in the industry. It kind of came to me by the first.

fault. But it's been exciting because, you know, rappers always want to be like street niggas. It was never, like I ain't never met a, you know, until Jay Z, really, who was doing what they said they was doing. You know what I'm saying? Everybody is big dope boy. It's there and third. You know some dope boys. But I had met nobody until 95 when I met Jay that was actually in the street doing it. So you was around when reasonable doubt was being recorded. Oh, when they started it, the construction of the album, I was around. Goodness gracious. How did you manage to get you? get into that fold because that now 2020 hindsight we know that that's one of the most you

know epic hip hop projects ever released but did you know at that time that it was going to be that major no i just knew i liked them clark kent i had hired dj clark kent to dj for me at the warehouse in the garage a couple of times he ended up taking me on the road with him he saw my light before i saw and he was like come on you know what i'm saying so we'd be at shack house when he played in orlando every two weeks with him and dennis scott like he just started taking me places and I'd be on the mic and he'd be you know DJ and he said you got to meet my guys they want to do something in Atlanta and so we went up to New York and I used to like get on him because he had like black Jay had 560 State Street is a famous address I was

saying we used to go to the spot yeah black lack of furniture and shit I'm like you bamass like how you fuck is black lack of black like piano wood you know what I'm talking about and I used to be on his nigga head like but he was cool because he had a station wagon buggy with BBS he had a Honda chord joint and he had a buggy I being something up but I thought he was You had to like Jay Z, he pull up. A Honda. Station wagons. Oh no, he had a Honda.

He had a Honda core station wagging on BB. Man, shit, I ain't never heard no shit like that before. Yeah. He had a buggy eye, Lexus. He probably still got it. It's probably brand new. Yeah, but that's how I met him. And we just all got cool, you know.

And it's crazy because 20, we said to celebrate the 24 years in a reasonable dog. It's arguably one of the best rap albums out. Yeah, it definitely. Great. It definitely. I mean, so you get to a point where you, you know, experienced a lot of success. But I always personally wanted to ask you, because I know I've learned a lot more from the bump in my head and the failures than I had from the wins.

So what would you say was your, when you got to Atlanta and got into it, what was the first time you really had to, you know, sit down and reevaluate since it was the first failure that you experienced after all the success? I really don't look at life like fairies. I agree with you. Like trial and error is a part of our journey for those who didn't have. I couldn't finish school. I was making $3,000 a week at the warehouse. I wasn't going back to school. It was like I, you know what I'm saying? Seeing more money probably than I was in the street because, you know, street money get lopsided. It ain't no win. You know what I'm saying? And so when I like would experience something, I would just take the knot, you know what I'm saying, and keep it moving. I never felt like the things that I wasn't succeeding at was. failure. I just saw it as like opportunity to adapt and adjust or it was time for me to pivot in a certain way. I didn't look at it. I never did. And it's so fucking crazy you ask my question. Like until COVID, I never dealt with childhood trauma until COVID. I just always would get shit would happen. I compartmentalize it, tuck it, and keep it moving because I just, I was taught to go. You know what I'm saying? I've been sitting there for four months. Nick, I'm like, I'm getting emotional and shit for no reason. You know what I'm saying? I'm like identifying with

things that like because you know when you see your you know at my age in my mid 40s it's like you look at like the community that that's part of you it's not it's no longer i'm here doing me and i'm not concerned what happens in the community affects my children it affects my mama if she can't go out and she gets sick or and so i'm just feeling all these different types of things but to your question i just i never felt that because i would compartmentalize and put it away i mean i don't see niggas get the head blown off i don't been shot at i'd have been locked up you know what i'm saying well axel rose looking digger was running the block Not no big burly strong, nobody.

Five foot, he used to carry a little toothbrush with it. I didn't seem the wildest shit you could see. He was at the block. And if y'all don't know who actual. This is gunned roses, the little muff up. The little white man. I don't see the wildest shit. You said something that I want you to speak on a little bit more.

You said street money getting lopsided. Oh, get lopsided. Like, could you just speak on that for the young niggas watching this right now? Can you just speak on that point right now? Go up it down, you little stupid fuck. Yeah, it ain't, it ain't no wins in the street game because you're going to lose more than you making. And it's just, it's the, it's the law of the streets.

You don't know nobody. And you look at the runs. I mean, I've been hearing my motherfuckers come out to woodwork from the 80s that I never knew nothing about because they only had a year run. And they were so busy with the plug and it, da, da, da, but, you know, 50 Cent just got one of these Spanish dudes. He was from the Bronx and come to find out my man, Fat Joe, a lot of people know him. But I was bugging, like, where was he?

But that's the, that's the length of time you get in the streets. You don't know, name one motherfucker had a 10-year run. Name one. Name one motherfucker that had a five year round. I'm talking about really getting some real paper. And it's lopsided. And then you see with the 88 crime bill or not, like, if I got locked them 91.

If I got locked them 92, I might still be in jail. It's lopside. You don't win. You know what I'm saying? And if I didn't have money to get a lawyer, I'd have been twisted. You know what I'm saying? And then obviously...

Especially in Maryland. You get to play with you how they want to be. Yeah, and I got locked in Frederick Maryland. It's not worse than the Commonwealth State, which is across the street but the worst you can catch that's the worst time you can catch but you know you don't you don't win it's a lot side of game man that's real so like you've been lifestyle specialist like i just tell you asked a couple questions about some of the things that i was impressed with that people might not know you did the button down t-shirts like when that was

big button up button up shirts i was about to say this nigga had niggies wearing buttoned up t-shirt You're a cold nigger. I'm glad you caught that. What the fuck does they win that shit too? I didn't realize I said that shit. A button up to you. We need to come with them, nigga. A button up.

Look, I try to say it low like button up. Button up is my bad. But shit, well, shit, fuck it. Niggas fuck it. There ain't no wins, nigga, fuck it. But, like, I don't think a lot of people know that that era, like, what was it? Change clothes era. That's what was the name of the-

Ryan Kenny. Brian, Brian Kenny. Ryan, Kenny. We were the second black designers ever in Sacks Fifth Avenue before. virgin before anybody. The only one before us was Willie Way in the 80s. Keep it two virgins with me. Yeah, yeah. Willie And so we, yeah,

Willie Ware was the first, Ryan Kennedy was the second. And who? Is Sax? Yeah, Sacks with Avenue, Grace of Wals or Sacks. No department stores were carrying black anything back then. There was no, you couldn't get your thing because I shocked so much Terry Zimmerman. Big shout to Terry Zimmerman. White lady

was the manager of the men's department. She was like, yo, you spend so much money in here. I saw your thing. Usher had your thing. on VH1. I was like, can you put it in the stove? Done. And we had already had like 300 boutique doors, but we didn't have but the idea came from because we were growing up. Like, hip hop

was big white T's and baggy sweatpants, I mean, baggy hoop shorts at this point, you know what I'm saying? And we were like hip hopers growing up and we were getting real money. Like prior to our generation, it was you know, 100 million, 200 million, 300 million, we were a billion dollar business now.

It was like, we don't look like a billion now. We run around here. You know what I'm saying? let's let's you know what I mean put it together and so we are I don't like how y'all put the pressure on regular niggas no but y'all because y'all was like man take that shit I'm like nigga we ain't got no hundred million yeah and them motherfuckers and them shirts was what the fucking so now now you know the fuck that bar I went to get one and then I went to put the motherfucker on and these ain't closed I'm like man why the fuck we got the with a button that you got to get some cuff links I ain't know what the fucker yeah I ain't no wrist button

yeah then you would have to buy the cuff links for the range sports was another See, that's exactly what the fuck. As soon as I heard that, I was like, man, these niggas crazy. Another five thousand. But you know what it was, it was like, it was like culture shock. Like at that time, music was changing, everything was changed. I look at music, the music industry in 10 year lows. And one portion of that 10 years will be dark and everything be drugged out and just super dark.

And then it'd be happy and sync and da-da-da-da. And all this. Oh, fuck with no drug. Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm talking about? Not that then. Not fucking with no drugs. Yeah, exactly.

So, but, you know, it gets to you. It's to a point where like you gotta identify when that phase is coming. If you really wanna, we were talking about this outside before y'all came, you know, if you can really identify when culture shifting, you can really enter that real game of monetary game, you know what I'm saying?

That real game of monetary gain. If you can identify like shit. That's the book title. Hello? Y'all heard that? Cameras, okay, great. But I like, I like, my mindset is like, I want to be involved with the next wave of thought process

when it comes to fashion and lifestyle because before me, you know, these spirit companies couldn't prove an ROI on lifestyle. Like, how they're gonna make us some money? How? How he gonna make, how that how? Tell us what we want. You know what I'm saying?

Like how? And then when I did it, it was doubled down. So, and I'm sure we're gonna get in that, but to the line. I hope you didn't tell them how. No, I did, but I kept perfecting it. And that's the thing about black folk. We were talking about this outside too.

It's like the whole shit, with Trump and why shit seems so crazy, but black folk mad because they can't kill us. We don't go nowhere. They can't kill us in business. They can kill us physically. I mean, they can kill one of us, we're gonna come back stronger,

more resourceful, more necessary. And I think that, you know, this has been my mindset. I just knew that hip hop needed to grow up. I wanted to be a catalyst. We ended up becoming the second black designers, Evan Sachs, like I mentioned. And then, you know, we are, you know, we're in the record books.

Good. I love how this thing is just casually throw history out there. So I hired DJ Clark Camp, he was struggling. Yeah, me and Jay Z. He said he was struggling. I did not say Clark Kish was struggling. Tony Rome, I did not say you were struggling. I was at, I was at Jay Z's 520 State Street.

He had black lack of furniture. Jay Z in this motherfucking Honda, right? Nobody can get hold out of this bitch. That's great. You're funny. So I, like, at this point, what he would. Hold on, your boy, that fucked the whole plate. Oh, yeah.

Boy, I got one leg, you know, he won a shit. He's going to say he had some motherfucker until the last leg. He's been doing his mean 60 minutes interviewer looking over crab leg, pop. Y'all know what this part is. You're catching that game. He enjoyed your crabs and catching that game. He got meat over there. Yeah, all of me right there.

Hey, man, welcome to the trap house, Kenny Burns. I love you, man. I'm home. You ain't been in the trap house in a minute, but this is the official 85 South Show trap house. We're trapping right here. Look at Marvin Gate looking at you. He proud of you. All that shit you said,

Marvin Gay, like, man, niggas is really out here getting it. He probably got him. Another DC got. Another DC got there. Another one. That's what it is. Me and Marvin Gay got the same birthday. So that picture is.

What a God? April 2nd. April 2nd. He's birthday every second. Yes, sir. All more with the tarth, fuck it. Exactly. Look at this.

Look at this. Look like he got on some goddamn lip gloss. Hold up, man. You know we got a research department over here, the 85 South Show. We got some more of your facts over here. Come on. This ain't it.

Y'all are journalists. Yeah, we're trying to make it right. You know, when the lifestyle specialist was coming, we got to make sure we get the people that don't know. We gotta have, put some fucking effects on the shit. And people that we fucked with could like, I like, you know, we met on another tip. Yeah.

I ain't know nothing about all that shit. Oh yeah. Hell no. I knew of it, but I ain't know, like, how deep. Oh, I. What tips y'all met all? So no, so we had, I had consulted for this tobacco company.

And I kept telling them, you know, saying that he'd be perfect for backwoods or Dutch masters because they had both right and so they had uh finally came you know with an ex-y you know with opportunity so I had reached out to him he said oh and I need I need to get in cash too can you said you said you said I need to get it okay I think of my boy hey my boy say I'm getting on their plane and I got cash when I get there it's going to be in cash no look I don't interfere with nobody hustle if you want something Mr. client and this the way the man won't get his bread and you gotta apply you don't

think we were doing a draw-up there it was that wide night too he was like I'm like you got he was like yeah I come back in here you got it he went to the back I'm like here you got it he said yeah he lifted out he said the arm blow my said ooh that motherfucker fit boy can't give it all right not doing bread with him with the kid to burn not too a bit with you oh boy hey one yes-ah no that's how I but I you know that's what I've done my whole career though I love identifying superstars early like you know what I'm saying and he clearly obviously had a name that's why they wanted to do business with him but when you got to pair

things with company pair people with companies you got to pick you know you got to make the right choices you know what I'm saying he obviously is what are that what does you feel like you get that vision from to be able to see where you see somebody like a fly who just raw talent and say you know what this will work what it like when do you think you perfected that being able to have that vision to be able to see that you know all right this is he'd be perfect for this if Chico he'll be perfect for for this like I think I think it was my God-given ability I think that's how I survived the street

ultimately I think that's how I've been able to be as blessed as I am you know because people make the world go around like I don't mean that a cliche sense I mean I treat the janitor to to hold the same motherfucking way I always say it don't matter what I got I'm gonna tell you what it is if it changes I'm gonna tell you I just don't believe in misguiding you know what The problem with our people is that we misguide each other. You know what I'm saying? Like doing this whole pandemic, you got a whole bunch of false profits jumping to the front trying to be speakers on activism and politics.

Nicky, you ain't been on the front line of nothing. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got no say-so in politics. You had the whole primary to say X, Y, Z. And I'm the type of nigg, a whole responsible. You know what I'm saying? Because I feel like we all we got, like, in a real way. Like, and if we don't put each other in perspective, it ain't about cancel culture.

That's a whole other topic. This is about holding people responsible. We can't have all this power and not be held responsible. We got a lot of powers telling them before you pull it up. I was like to be able to have all the followers y'all have

and how the conversations y'all have. Y'all are educating. You're doing it in your way. It's like my first time speaking at the college university. I asked a professor, I said, can I please curse? I'm not going to say shit damn motherfucker,

goddamn, you know. But I got to read, they got to hear it. That's the only way. That's the only way you can connect to the younger. And people always like, why the youngest fuck with you so much?

Because I don't discard them. I take their opinions valuably. You know what I'm saying? Not just take their opinion. I value like, my son swears little babies the goat. I grew up working with the goats, nigger. Like, he swears little baby, and I can't be like he ain't the goat. I got a seat.

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He don't. Shout to go hard. Yeah. He killed that record. What's the name of the record? Anybody? Which one? The one with the political joint.

Yeah, he went nuts. He went nuts. A big shout to him. Consistency wins all the time. All the time. Research Department. Give me the name of that song, ASAP. All the time. But, you know, I had John Ossoff, who was running for State Senate for George on my show.

I told, I started the show off with that song, told him how he needed a little baby. I ain't had no conversation with nobody. That's what I do. I feel like, I feel like that's, that's when it comes to OG's, they don't, they don't. The bigger picture. Yeah, the bigger picture. They don't, they don't shed the knowledge. Right.

You see what I'm saying? They always are, what's the word I'm looking for it? Is it pretentious? Yeah, well, they always withhold, you know what I mean? The withhold- But that's what I'm saying. They always trying to showbole and acting like, let me show you what I got instead of saying, let me show you how I got it.

You see what I'm saying? I don't wanna know what you got, show me how you got it. You feel what I'm saying? Because then I can use that knowledge and go get my own. Absolutely, right. You did what I'm saying? You're trying to showbole and trying to say,

oh, this is what you got, so you have left the younger generation to figure it out on themselves and come up with a plan. on damn how you got that well because the curriculum that they're teaching is not teaching them how to get nothing you just were having to break the code so once you broke the code you got to give the younger generation that knowledge and that's why I just bought five more books today and I hate eating you got to do it if you want to know something you got to find out about it but guess what it's in the

book me everything that you even want to think about knowing or you even want to know it's in a book bro like some people don't have have that the ability us to speak out when be on stage in front of a whole bunch of people and you have that ability to speak so some people are just so highly educated they're like well let me write it down hopefully somebody figured it because I told somebody books ain't number notes yeah facts it just what a motherfucker thing and imagine if you wrote down everything you did in your life what your book would be and that's that's real like if you just told stories through your experience real but they're gonna want to read it 20 40 years they

They want to read it now. I want to read your book now. They want to read your book now. If you find an Einstein book right now, you're telling me you're going to read that shit, you're going to like, man, I got to hear what this nigga were talking about? What? Well, I want to address two things you said. I think, oh, geez, they don't want to share the game because they don't want to be out the game.

And what a lot of them don't, I'm just, oh. But not even that they're old. You know, we as a culture, it's almost, it says in hip-hop that once you get a certain age, you're out of here. Right. And when, when this generation, you know, when this generation, you know, brought the billion dollars to the table they don't want to go nowhere but instead of saying

all right let me take these youngans and put some real time into them tell them what I know what happened with us you know what I'm talking about but no a lot of these dudes took them didn't treat them right

made money out for yeah and instead of saying like oh I see your light your superpower is amazing this is what it is that's what happened to me that's why God rest of there Andreirae like I give him

ultimate credit because you know I'm a street guy in a business that is music. Oh, you got to tell that story. You're skipping over it. He said he went home. He had to go back home for some probation shit. Mind you, all this is in the documentary that he put out.

He had to go back home for some probation. When he went back home for the probation, he found out Andre Herrera was coming through D.C. And it was a place on 14th Street that used to throw parties and shit. So he found out that he was coming through, found out that he liked light-skinned women in Don Perriam. And so when he came, when he threw the party, he made sure he had both of them for him.

So a dude was impressed. He said, man, hey, man, he never seen nobody put it together like this. I asked him to come to New York Monday morning. And he said, he told him what, to be there at 8 o'clock. You know what? He ain't come till 10, but he came and he was like, you know, man, I'm here. And then you say he gave him, what, $60,000 first? You do street team marketing promotions.

Went from 60 to 100 to 150 in a year. And the reason I love him and what I was saying to you about, oh, geez, is like, he took the time. Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, time is all a young black mine needs. You know what I'm saying? To show.

Exactly. Time. And that's what he did. He showed me Boskiy out. He showed at first black man I ever seen with a driver, you know what I'm saying, the Rose Royce, had an apartment on the upper west side of New York on Black 4 wasn't even, you know what I'm saying, whole top of the motherfucking apartment. I'm like, damn, this is possible. He's like, yeah, and you got the power to make it happen.

I'm like, nigger. And I'm imagine, you know, I'm fresh off, like, I'm just, I got. I had to, my mother had moved to Atlanta. So we all here now. They came knocked on her door because my probation said, I ain't report in six months. So extradition, they could have held me for six months

while they figured some dumb shit. I'm in the middle of my trajectory. Like, I was popping. I was already the party, nigga, now I'm in the music business. So I'm like, I can't afford that. So I drove, got in the car, like 35 minutes late, drove to D.C., went to get my lawyer.

They came looking for me. He fixed it. Whole time he told you the story, Drake come. And my thing is like, at that point in my life, that saved my life. I wouldn't move and think about them people. It's like I'm off pay. I felt like I was off paper.

And I had reported, by the way, but the clerk had made a file mistake. And this is how they do black folk all the time. Said I could email my shit. I'm sorry, fax my shit. It wasn't even know, I mean, if it was email, but they said I could fax my shit, I ain't have to report.

That shit could have had me, I had 10 years back, I had a fucking meek meal. I had a meek meal, like, and so, but my point is he got me at the most crucial time in my life, you know what I'm saying, and pointing me in the right direction. I met my wife right after that. He gave my first piece of real art, you know what I'm saying, like, and my life has been because of his offering, because he took the time. And that's what OGs don't do now, and the other thing you said, you said some other key shit

that I wanted to address, but you said, I forgot it, but that's the most important piece. So rest of peace, Andre, real. Yeah, and that's what you said about OG's, you know, hip hop being a game where the old is out. I hate that about this because we're the only people that put that standard on our superstar. Like, you look at rock and roll and country, the motherfuckers be older. You still see all of them walking around old and the motherfucker performing for hundreds of thousands of people. Forever. Frankie Bevelin-May, 70-something years old.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, and they, but for some reason. in hip hop which has done the most for the streets no matter where you come from in this country hip hop has done more for the streets than anything else and when guys get older they automatically lose their luster because they old when in reality we don't we need to stop doing that to our people like even if you don't like it there's still a lane for guys who you know made history they paved the way yeah they paved the way and it should be you know something that should be in place for i mean i'm talking about honored yeah but

Me and Lowe's just did, and we always have tried to do that with our platforms, even, you know, in the old school battles and stuff that we do. Hey, what's up? YouTube. It's me, Hannibal Burricks. This cop stupid as far. under control, but you know, it flares up every now. As well doesn't get a lot of respect out here though. As far as diseases go, asthma doesn't get cancer love in these streets. You don't see these commercials, merchandise, cele endorsements.

None of that. There's no asthma walks, because everybody will have asthma attacks. People think asthma's hilarious. When I pull out my inhaler in front of my Friends, I might as well pulled out a kazoo the way they laughed to me. Hey, look at Hannibal, puff, puff, puff, pop, I don't want to die. Look at him, he can't breathe without that shit.

Okay, I'm good now, y'all. Miami Nights. Like, we just did something with Dougie Fresh, did an old school battle with Dougie Fresh. She was classic. And for a lot of youngers, like, has been hitting us like, man, I ain't know who he was. I didn't know who he was. Dougie Fresh. You know what I mean?

Right. I didn't know who Dougie Fresh was. And for us to be able to be cool enough to incorporate that into something that people like us for, but at the same time, give that spotlight and that shine to a legend, it's something that's important. You know what I mean? And that's what we try to do all the way around. And to tap on that too, when I play Slye.

Right. When I play Slide, American Soul. That man, kill that thing, man. I didn't get over that. Ah. My nigga was talking about milked mama. You see how he did that though? He's like this.

Listen. I did. I did. He learned that shit from you. You didn't do that shit this whole time. No episode. Right. When I first did it, it was like I'm acting and actually doing music.

So I'm doing both of my dreams and passes at the same time. With true love, not really, it fucked the dollar. I'm actually doing something that I always dreamed of doing. Like, when I seen Jamie play Ray, I'm like, I can't wait to about it. like, I can't wait till my time to actually perform and be somebody else and really live that dream. But when I did it, it made me, that was the first, I want to say that was the first start

of me tapping into revolutionary because I had to go back and do homework on slide. And when I, because now in the acting mindset, I gotta be this character, I gotta know this character, I got to live through, you know, he gotta live through me right now. I gotta become him. So once I started doing the homework and I was like,

Oh, this, been around in our lives multiple times, but a guy like this don't get that much recognition. Or like you said, older guys, y'all know this. Why you ain't telling us? You feel me? Now, this was the first group, diverse group back then when all the civil rights and all that was going through, this was a whole nother lane.

And he really paved away for you to even be with a group with somebody white or, no, we're breaking barriers. He was making some, like, don't. Don't call me nigger whited. You hear what I'm saying? But Sean, and he won no timeout. That nigga got a song called, don't call me niggily.

Don't call me nigger white. Listen, with my phone at. I got to get that. And it's cold. And it's cold. But listen. And he got white people in his band. He got white people, Asians.

He got all type of motherfuckers in his band. You pick, nigger, whoever. He had a llama. I saw it on the band. In the band. Nigger, what he didn't do. By the way. You see what I'm saying?

That was funny than the motherfucker was. Hey, one thing, that llama, that motherfucker will bite. That motherfucker spit on your head too. I was like, hey, hon, y'all gotta get that motherfucker right here. He buzzed, he, I'm gonna call the left, right, right, left, boy. But no, but even playing that role, it made me what I want to say, respect anybody who paved away or anybody who had some type of impact, because it's really not about the name.

And it started making me going back and looking at all the unheard of heroes we got, the ones that's not being praised and stuff like this. So it's like, we got so many people that have so much history. So many legacies. We can't forget the legacy because the legacy is history. Yeah. It's a part of your history.

Right, and when they don't tell the legacy, they get to rewrite the history. And they will write your ass out of history. Listen to me. They will erase you. And that's the thing. People used to always ask me, why you shooting everything? Why are you taping everything?

I thought it was about talking about the street shit again. Oh, no, no, no. Oh, hell now. I can tell it. You gotta give me an intro, man. Like, whoa, Kenny, what them niggas do? What, it was this?

Was this before the parties and shit? No, definitely before the party. Actually, we had a big gun back. So, um, without saying, what was I said? Oh, they were on Richmond. He was a whole station wagon. Then we had that bitch on 14. He had pulled up.

BBSs. I'm telling you, niggas was clean. All right. No, you see, you made me think about another station wagon moment on 14th. Hey, man, don't do that. When you took the door. When you took the door. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He boys, you were just playing. You were, man. They don't know. They don't know. They might switch it around. He already did time for this. He didn't hear that part. He did the time for this.

We ain't got time for them. Talking about the ones with the door pedals that popped right over. Anyway, so I'm saying they will erase you if you let them. I know. So document everything and remind motherfuckers. Like, I have no problem. Like, I just posted my reasonable doubt plaque yesterday. I just, you know, celebrating the joint.

I'm posted every picture I ever had with these muffles. Let me just post a plaque. Right. Just so you niggins know that Bighead Kenny had the reasonable doubt on priority freeze records, not NEPJAM. Priority freeze. I mean, but you got to remind them because they will erase you. Right. I want to see the mother.

And but then this is the thing, too, though, by me being 28, I'm like, I'm like, yeah, because when you said 92, when you were dead getting popped out, I was getting popped out my mama pussy. So it was like, done one more time, nigga. Pop that my mama pussy! I'm like dad The stroke mouth So they're like The nigger turned to the stroke mouth Puffa

Man they don't come You got to understand That's 28 years They're plant cold in the motherfucker But that's 208 years Have you been handling your business You did what I'm saying And for us younger people

We got to know that Because like you said They rewrite history And try to say This is what happened And this is that ain't what happened And then they're like Well how you know

You don't have any references Ha ha ha One day they're done We were doing White men who started the show Right. That was focused on race relations. That's crazy.

Give it time. We already receiving hate mail from the white community. They definitely eyeballing this. They might not try to get it now, but they've been, nice show. They're ashamed if somebody bought it. 85 South is originated by such and such. Yeah, exactly. You got to me the owners.

They can't buy it. I'm going to tell you all this, though. I'm going to tell you this to your point, though, DC. Like, at the end of the day, you got to enjoy your journey, man. Right. I think a lot of the times people get these. lofty dreams. We all have lofty dreams. We all want to be

my shit dumb. My shit dumb. Yeah, but you also got to know that that's probably not going to happen. Some of it going to happen. No, and I'm... No, this shit got to happen. No, no. Listen to what I'm saying though. You can't possibly be able to achieve your dream if you don't appreciate the journey.

We, we get in our own way. Like, we get to the point of like dysfunction because we think it ain't happening with such, such, such, such did it. God damn it. I've been doing that shit. You know how long I've been working before I actually got equity in the brand? You know how much. But I want to say it will work, just like how you said, because you don't, I don't like to kind of like shine niggas dreams and hopes and saying that he ain't going to do shit.

Because I was once one of them children and a nigger told me I wasn't going to do it. And I believe. Well, I'm not telling you you, you're not going to do it. No, no, no, I ain't saying that. No, why am I saying your dreams won't happen? Not saying that, but I'm saying, though, if I was just a little bit more aggressive at that time and standpoint, he wouldn't be able to get to me. Right. You see what I'm saying?

But by me not having a resource or a real reliable backbone to be like, damn, well maybe the nigga right. Maybe I am sorry than the motherfucker. Yeah. But I really wasn't. He just, I really wasn't. You feel what I'm saying? I did he bullshit.

I was really great. But he so happened to be manipulated my mind. I'm like, maybe I am sorry. No, but that's the point. DC, that's the point though. The point is that when you focus only on the dream, you're judging. your steps on the dream. You're not judging your steps

on the things in front of you that you can get right now to get and that's what I'm saying like for me, even when Uncle Neers and I never gonna talk about it, I created influencer programs that all spirit companies use. I didn't fucking copyright

that shit. I'm not getting paid for every, I should be getting a piece of but guess what happened though? I didn't block my blessings by worrying about that shit. I didn't know. It's okay.

It's okay I didn't know. I kept moving in this direction and ultimately my dream my I was telling Chico outside Lowe's in DC for y'all came my dream has nothing like has everything to do with what I want and what I see for myself what's happening is the best thing to ever happen to me out of any business I've ever done and I've done some great shit but until uncle near I didn't really have equity in nothing you know what I'm saying right and that's what trying to just working just putting pieces together because you ain't even no legacy something that

you said that that motivated me throughout that journey is uh to be a brand you have to become the brand itself of course you know i mean and i use that through a lot of because i used to drive a saturn view nigger with like 250 000 miles on it but i was the saturn when i was in that bitch because that was the only way i was going to be able to get the fuck up out that motherfucker yeah as if i am i had to become one with the sadden view and it's like a lot of those lessons that i learned on the come up like i used to have to walk home from the repair shop when the shit will break down and on them walks home i would always think like man if i just allow myself to stay in this space i ain't gonna never get out of it i

will never be able to make myself greater than what it is that i am right now and that's something that i learned from watching that documentary what you need to put back out somewhere we're gonna show it on a page right after this show oh please don't don't be bullshit don't flex listen that's it everybody need to watch this motherfucker because like i I said at that point in my life, I was at a crossroads. I had went to Winston-Selham State University, got a degree in communications, radio television, went down to where I did my internship at, and they told me I was going to be making $6.25 an hour part-time.

And I said, fuck, no, I'm not. Like, if I'm going to be poor and struggling, I much rather be poor and struggling, building my own legacy. And I haven't been getting my own money since I was nine years old, so it's never been about money to me. I know how to make money. I've always know how to make money, but this is, this is my life. This is, I'm about to go out into the world.

This is the legacy. And mind you, my father ain't have a headstone. This nigga I got killed when I was two. I ain't have enough to leave a headstone. Most of the men in my family is in the streets and jail are fucked off somewhere. So I'm like, I got, I know the examples that's been set for me by my people, but what am I going to do? And when I came in contact with his documentary, seeing somebody that was from the city and the shit that you said, it just made me realize that, okay, I got the ability to make whatever I want to make happen happen.

I just got to do this shit and be focused enough to be able to make it happen. And that's why I decided to stay in North Carolina instead of going back to D.C. Because I knew if I went back to D.C. the opinions, not even just more of the same, but the opinions of the people who matter would affect me differently. Like, for example, if you're chasing your dream, like you said, buddy who said you wasn't shit, this had to be a nigga that you respected in some capacity. He was the coach. Right.

Right. You told me, bud, take your ass home. I was hurt. Right. And I didn't want to have to deal with that because I knew that from watching the documentary and just knowing how shit go, when you chase any dream, you ain't going to be rich overnight. It don't work like that. You got to hustle.

So I knew if I was hustling in that part of me that everybody knew me for always being a fly nigger and always having my way, when I wasn't doing that, I didn't want the people whose opinions the matter to be like, damn, Ben, you fuck. up you in the satin ain't you niggins got every light glowing on the dashboard and he's trying to land the airplane yeah I mean I ain't want to have to deal with that so I stayed why I didn't know nobody and I had to create my own following and legacy and everything but I think that a lot of people need to understand that we as especially young black man who watch this shit you have a responsibility to be true to who you are and find out what that is and beat the pavement as

much as you can you'll never get there if you don't like me and this nigga came in contact with each other we don't mind none of us mind

telling the truth about the journey like we was broke them first seasons a while now I'm talking about nigger fucked up

washing clothes at a hotel you know how fucked up you gotta be to wash your clothes in a hotel laundry mat nigga I'm talking about the bitches down

there washing sheets and pillowcases and shit we down there without drawers in the same washing machine but that's

what it was and we knew that we had to get to a greater purpose but if you allow yourself to be stuck in whatever space you in mentally you'll never break you'll never break out i'm gonna tell you said it you said it god damn it ain't said no no i think you said too lozs like i think you did say it lozs but i love what y'all both said about you know saying it not being about the money it's never about the money and i'm gonna tell you why your profits with the ability to speak to these youngings by saying shit like that. Like, money is the root to all evil. It's attention now.

It is, no, but it's the root to all evil. You ain't never met a motherfucker. I watch unsung religiously. You ain't never seen a positive unsung. Hey, fly. That's crazy, bro. And I'm not trying, I love the show, and I love the stories, and I love the history.

But do you ever see from that era, and it's a specific era I'm talking about, 70s to the 90s. It's an era of motherfuckers that's just bad, man, and it went bad. But see, because guess what? You fish out of water. Imagine being a motherfucker that you ain't. Like, imagine looking in the mirror every day you this artist that they made you and you not yourself.

You struggling to deal with your own fucking identity. I know that Chris, but that's money. Money make you do that. Your fucking personality told you not to do the shit. It told you to be you. It told you not to walk to Brooklyn for cheese cake. It told you that shit. That was the craziest shit I ever played.

It told you that shit, but you go through this shit. being not who you are and it fucking comes to bite you in the ass and I respect y'all I respect y'all before the show because I know all of y'all individually on some level but I respect that you saying that publicly

because the young value money too much money ain't shit to get for a motherfucker who can get some money right so anybody with some exemplary creative to offer bring that back bring that back yeah I don't know if I could say it correct again I said it don't matter you educate you educate

yeah but if you have a Exemplary. Did you say exemplary? Yep. If you have a skill set in the creative department that puts you, separates you from the next man, double down on that shit, don't worry about the money. Because you want, I could tell you right now, I've given a hundred ideas away for free to get in the door.

Give me one. You know what I'm talking about? Shit, I mean, I mean, you know, influence a program. You think if I couldn't mind that shit? That's why we saved this. This is what I really want to get at you about, bro. We are. We're going to, we're going to go.

We're closing on this. We're closing on this one. I know that, we're closing on this one. That's a guy, that Christopher Williams on some fucked you up then the day. Don't wake me on you, man. I'm sad for Chris because he was way talented. That was not, I mean, he had changes and it was over. Yeah.

I mean, his album changes. He had New York undercover and it was over. But I feel bad. He told him, Nino Brown. Even like the El Dabar. You saw the El Dabar's unsung. All y'all young is out there. Yeah, DeBars got an ensemble?

The Dabarges? What? Hey, dog, Bobby Debarge, my nigger, one time for Bobby DeBarge, man. But I'm telling you, but people, my thing is mental illness is a real thing. And I think people should, like, understand that, getting into this business. If you are not a strong, if you don't have a strong mind for your own, your own mind. You don't have to take criticism? Let me tell you something.

A motherfucker can't say shit to me that I ain't already heard. They're going to hurt your feelings. Right, that I ain't, nigger. My dad had all time. My parents was old my entire life. Right. What the fuck can you say to me? You dig what I'm saying?

They're like, who dad in there with the shake is? I'm like, damn, that's my dad in there with the shakey. Yeah, yeah, nigger, yeah. So it's like, I want to tell the young guys out there, bro. Listen, bro, the world is a cruel world, but you have so many genuine people that will follow you, Really follow your leadership and that's what I had to learn. I'm such a barraider You feel me like my partner got something going on nigger. We ride it and he he got some shit that's successful

niggas niggins we ride it me. I'm gonna you let go but then I had to understand I wasn't tapping into my own leadership because I'm too busy just want to support somebody else That's right because it's way the pressure is so much off you when everybody's not looking at you like what's to do You see what I'm saying? Like right now, we are all ahead of our family. And every day a motherfucker know they scrape because they know you up or they know you're going to find a way. You see what I'm saying?

But at that time, I was just like, shit, who way we're going with today? You know what I'm saying? Instead of me trying to figure it out. Because I don't want to enable you guys. Not really just enable, it was just more so everybody got leadership qualities in them. You see what I'm saying? And if you, I always tell this, and I always, you know what I'm saying? motherfuckers who have a team that works together

because everybody have a leadership. You got the CEO, you got the president, you got the vice president, okay, them all different titles. The CEO can't do what the general doing, okay, doing the CEO shit. Right. The CEO needs you, motherfucker.

So you got to go be a general and lead other motherfuckers up under you. So when I see motherfuckers really doing it together and understanding, taking their role, but understanding your role is a leader, man, I gotta give it to them. I gotta give it to him. Round applause for that seat.

He's 28 talking that shit. When he get to be my age, he gonna be a mother. He might run for president. You feel like? That's a lot. That's a lot. No. Well, if you ain't no fella, you're good.

But I can't, yeah. You're good. But I want to say this, though, Chigo. They tell me no, I said, shit. A good woman. A good woman. Give up that stimulus, a good woman, a good woman, which you, you're good. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

A good woman had to ask. Okay, it's all good. Yeah, yeah. But a good woman will help you get to where you're going. And I'm gonna tell you. Can you tell that to the women, though? Because they be acting like they don't know. I'm talking to everybody listening.

My bitch, listen. I'm talking everybody listening. A good woman, and I'm tell you this, speaking life into each other, having the ability to speak life into each. Your partner, your partner, he's going to ride, he's going to be on your side. He's going to say what you want to hear nine times out of ten. Right. But you're woman.

And I'm not talking about confrontation. I ain't talking about petty. I ain't talking about spiteful. I'm talking about a person you respect that you could be friends with, make love to. It's a whole other offering when y'all on the same page.

And that type of information you get from them type relationship, I promise you. It's a missing ingredient. My wife met me, how you got a rotin tooth? You look like that. I was like, I don't know.

My mama never talked me about saving them back. She roasts your head. What's got a right tooth? No, but I'm saying, You got a bad apple ugly, man. Light skin with a brown skin tooth. That's fucking crazy. But my point is I wouldn't have identified it.

I'm a grown man with 30,000 in my mattress and I'm 30,000 in debt. It's certain things materially men ain't going to do for men. And I promise y'all this. Like, I became Superman in 1997. My wife told me that I was Kenny motherfucking Burns. I've been married 21 years in October, 21 in this business. Shit made a different thing with your girl, when your girl bullshit. I give it to you.

I give it to you. I am, man. I respect it. I ain't never doing that shit. But I respect it. I respect it. I respect it. Good woman, man.

I respect it. He said, I ain't never done it. I can't do it. I mean, I respect what you're saying, but I can't do that. Ladies, y'all hear that? So start telling us what the fuck we need to hear so I can turn into Superman. But that's the thing.

What do you think those characteristics of a woman are? Because you said you having one that you respect. What do you think the character risks of a woman? The key word is that you respect. Two men and niggas be looking for the wrong chick because another sick because another nigger right if you can give it heard a nigger rap if you can give general characteristics of what you think from your experience not just from what you because you didn't been in a potty you didn't been around the best the best of the best of the and the worst of the worst

so what do you think the characteristics are the ones that are going to motivate a man that reminds you a man that got some shit going on we never talking the niggas who are afraid of responsibility that's the first thing you got to do right embrace responsibility right embrace your You can't help that. You got to handle all your business, but. For the guys who have and haven't found that one, what do you think that they need to, the courage and riches are the ones they need to look for up?

Yeah, I would say, man, first and foremost, they can't be impressed easily. You know, I think a lot of times you have fans. That one touch jail, win. That nigga said, Nick, I'm going to hit the keyboard. This nigga play the keyboard, the guitar, this bitch is, and this is impressed with the nigger

that can do like this. He was like, fuck. for you my name even Marvin gay peaked from behind the sweater to hear that shit that's her look at that man they peeked up I just think they can't be easy I think first and foremost can't be easily impressed I think what's worked in my relationship she ain't tripping off what I do she ain't tripping on how people trip off me when you come through that dough you you Kenny Burns you my husband you dad is his boy and that's that's respectable and then also too like as men man we

get so boastful just in our spirit even if we're not outwardly saying like you I'm doing it, but our energy carries that. You know what I'm saying? And I think that a woman is the perfect, your woman, or a black woman, woman, period, is the perfect person to bring you down the earth. You know what I'm saying?

I hear you, Nick, watch your draws. You got left this shit over there on the thing, all that. All right, my girl would definitely tell me, hey, you need to go take a bow. I'm like, it's right, sit on both. But for real, though, and I don't think you respect that from your guy.

Your guy's not gonna tell you. Your guy's not gonna even be thoughtful enough to share that kind of shit with you. But it's the intangibles that make them superheroes. I promise you that. I be telling them more women, even though y'all got to understand, we get our script from y'all. Yeah.

Every time we're going to talk that gangster shit at all, it's fucking you bitches. We always be looking like, where's the bitchies? Like, we need the bitches, man. I would never say, we can't motion without these motherfuckers, man. Where are they? We'd have had them conversations. Real.

The energy of a woman. is always going to bring the energy of anything up it's priceless but it's just I think a lot of what I didn't learn from my perspective is just that a lot of dudes ain't who they say they are so you can't never find no woman to give you but you can't find a thing that's why it gets tricky because when the women get around the fuck niggas who ain't been molded right or trained enough you feel me they the women bring their little energy out on it there go this ego that's not them they got to act like they got the stunt and you be like this nigga always flexing when females get around because females is the energy booster to whatever it boosts you like when you see

like you know how motherfuck like i want to go to a party but it ain't a party because ain't no women right now when the women get here okay shit it feels like a goddamn party now you feel what I'm saying so it's like whatever that energy is that's what it is you feel what I'm saying my uncle told me a long time ago he said man and this has always been powerful to me got rest of his soul because he ended up losing his life this way but he said that man whenever somebody he said all these murders you see out here in the streets all your friends know that one or two things always going to be involved some money or girl every time it's always going to be that and I'm like well well why just the negativity he was like because

men don't know how to harness their own energy so the negativity is always going to be embraced in the most negative situations and the money and the girls are the easiest thing to motivate niggas to make fucked up decisions so that makes you know that the power of money and the power of a woman is equal and I would say women is more powerful than money because if you ain't got a dime

and a woman walk in you're going to feel like I got to get some money some money. Some money ain't going to make you feel like you know you can get a woman but a woman going to make you feel like you need to get some money so I just think that you know women got to understand that they had that power and we got a responsibility as men to feed that energy and be better

towards them but at the end of the day ladies you got a responsibility to know that. Mawfuckuck, y'all really run shit. A woman. Accountability. Responsibility. No, you're right, though. You're going to learn all the shit that you know?

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Yeah. Bray, that's, bro. But it's married men talking to single women. Y'all fucking game up. Don't nobody want y'all fucking advice? No the fuck they do. Y'all are married. Y'all is fucking a game up.

We need that shit. Yeah, what advice. Y'all, you're telling these money, fuck, all this old. They're struggling to their shit. You can have a hundred million dollars. No, the fuck you came. No, no.

No. And he's having these meetings at the Ramada end telling all the man women, stop giving away your pussy, work on your business, get your mind together, focus on yourself. Man, shut that shit up. You've been your wife beautiful in the motherfucker, man. Don't be out here putting all that bullshit in the game. No, I'm saying this nigga. Make sure you get my book.

Man, fuck all that bullshit. I think, I think. You know the nigga fucking nigga. It's married me. It's me and my wife giving single women advice for a fucking what. For what? y'all are together leave us to fuck alone

we'll figure it out we'll need to know what y'all did in the second year of marriage when she got rough he gives a shit you're all fucking again me and my home boy baby face man get the fuck out of here

Jay stopped thinking the last one he brought the Honda out believe it the stories is too extravagant and Marie sings the intro get the fuck come on man why in the hell are you out here giving single women advice Look, if I was trying to fuck you, this is what I do.

Get out of here, Ken. Ah, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. You got a piece. Yeah, no, no, no, no. This is why I would never get burned? I can't see myself get burned because just him making that statement. Wait, wait a minute.

Wait, we're not putting that out. Oh, whoa. They say nothing's like that. Nothing like that. Well, I got me a similar. Now listen, you're trying to take like the single women that really respect what we got going on. Why are you talking to?

Why are you talking to? single women can't it what are you doing listen i think that there's a disconnect you can't connect it you know how to disconnect it i have i have it i have what i'm really okay superman your wife give you too much confidence bro you can't you can't connect it it's been disconnected what the fuck said hold me let me connect this for y'all oh shit he already connected yeah if you don't fall to fuck naked let us figure this out I'm trying to have your back I'm trying to give information stop it's easier for you whatever you saying they're in the opposite they're in opposite I get that I mean being out here like I said we were just talk about that like you

you have an extra ain't you an extraordinary nigga you have done extraordinary shit so you are sitting these a lot of these women out into the world with the wrong shit energy and What's that new? If you go into Kendall Barn Seminar, he ain't going to be there. I'm gonna take his spot. There you go. They need to let us come. That's what, bring up.

Are you in the same boat as me? Yeah, I am, boy, I ain't married. Oh, okay. You let me come. Let me come talk. Let me, after you say whatever, now we're gonna have the back- That's gonna be over here. That's gonna be over-deen-dream.

What's my seminar in a dream? What kind of extreme sport is this? You and your wife go in a room full of fine-ass women. baby I ain't gonna look at no my wife don't go what in the what the what the fuck what what my wife don't go let's talk about feelings today you want to discuss they come in there boo hey we're just being friendly we just don't know all right now skip you skip you know you can't do that we got the dough open in the hallway they got the baby speaker set up in that motherfucker they can hear everything man we got

But I thought you said they was in a sending baby seat. Y'all want to have shit. But what is the grassy? What are you doing? I was the plan. I can't go to the seminar. This is called for women only. I can't go to the seminar.

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I put that on everything. Times is hard out here You hear them for women only like so what what does that accomplish for the women in your opinion at least well i think there's a disconnect where women feel like they have to be quote-unquote as free as men like this generation of women are unapologetic for the things they do which they rightfully should be but at the same time i think there's a certain disconnect where they don't realize the men are judging them for said actions in a lot of ways right so it becomes this whole melting pot discussion of well why why can't I do what I want to do and

what you know and so there there's a whole bunch of topics that come into play because I you know and for me I want everybody to do what they want to do in life I just want you to be thoughtful about the consequences and what happens you know it's like you can go on Instagram and be this whole other person you got fans only but then you want a respectable man you know what I'm saying right you know show that pussy for $2.99 a cent a month but to a nigga in goddamn Connecticut. Right, but I'm serious.

But I'm saying, a lot of people live like that. A lot of people live like that. A lot of people make money. A lot of women make money like that. A lot of, and I ain't knocking nobody who got to understand. I ain't not gonna by that hustle, but you gotta be prepared for the consequence

and you wonder why certain things that happen in your life. Well, that all goes into what you want, because I don't know why a woman who has an oldie fans will want a respectable man. What the fuck do you want a respectable man for? But see, but that's what- Get you a nigger that don't think, don't give a fuck about shit like that.

But then they don't get to have it. If they don't care about nothing, they don't care about two ultimately. If they don't care about nothing. See, it's the bullshit I'm talking about. Talk your shit. No, but I'm just saying. This is the shit I'm talking about, Kenny.

No, but I'm just saying, look, you can have relationship. It's plenty of dumb motherfuckers in the world. Exactly. They need to be with them. Relations with whoever. But I'm trying to say the women that say they want a relationship. This ain't got nothing to do with the women that don't care and niggas that don't care.

We're talking about the women that want to be in a relationship. If you want to be in a relationship, there's things you have to do to be in a relationship. Like men, there's certain things we have to do to be in a relationship. Fuck a relationship. Okay. I mean, me. Me, not kidding.

But this is my thing. That's my thing. That's my whole deal about it. That's fine. We're ready to transition. This is a whole deal about it, right? A marriage is a contract. It's a contract, ain't?

It is. It is. It's a contract. What do you need to do with your girl? Man, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, she gets everything. Wait, we got bigger issues. They ain't married men out here giving single women advice. Uncle nearest, the fastest growing, she.

Listen, I agree. To disagree. But we're going to go ahead and get into this. Man, we're trying to get into the liquor game. We are, because we got Carlos. Hey, let me tell you some. I think they should give a child support to whoever the baby looked like the most. The baby looked like the daddy,

bitch, I wish you would put me on your child, boy, that baby looked just like me. You know I'm gonna run that ketchup on your ass, don't do it. I'm gonna get a fowl. Why we're giving up, boy? And he got my birth ball? Bitch, that's a half of two times.

Don't do that. I also think in America, if you decide to get married, if you decide to get divorced, you should be able to get, you should have to get divorced the same way you get married. So the same way you made me sit and listen to y'all talk all that shit by how y'all were gonna be

together forever I should get to come to the courtroom and hear y'all talk about all the shit that made y'all break the fuck up I ain't no private no if I got to come here Brian McKnight sing and see y'all cry and you get to pick what sad you sit on whoever you agree you get to see the divorce need to be the same way as murray so if whoever you get an invitation to your divorce or whenever y'all go to that court here and I get to be in that bitch just like I was at the wind listening to everything you She did what? Yo, she sucked these balls, y'allama.

Listen to the boys' mail he left me. She sucked my digger line. And then she comes with, Nick, if your balls ain't smelled like motherfucking outside, maybe you could have got your suck. I'm going to go sit on my cousin, saying. Right, digger, that's what it is. But enough of that.

Enough of that. Some more of this. I did not know we were going down the rabbit hole. I did. I was trying to break this. I was trying to add. You started this with this. You started this with this.

You are exposed. We started on the YouTube page about that shit. That shit has to end. Oh, my God. That was the week. That shit has to. This right here is, is amazing, man. Like, like I said, I'm a...

Kenny Burns said, I'm gonna get some of that shit, man. Y'all's like his reparations. Oh, no, no, that's the one he bought you. But like I said, you, uh, one of my biggest motivations in somebody that I look up to, brandy. But when we was outside earlier, you said some shit that, fuck. me up because all the things that I know you have done throughout your career and all of the dope shit that you've accomplished you said that this is the best shit that you've ever done

no question and this is your reparations you said yes so he said now you said now you said that this is I want to do so that why even when we came on Carlo Bernard that hit yeah that's why why why is this the why this yeah so it so there's a lot of variables right So when I actually was doing all the influence of programs, creating all these events and brands within brands, you want that? Yeah, go. I realized that I never owned anything in the business, right?

All the things I would put my money up for that I was actually passionate about, whether it was parties to promote concert tools, whatever I would do, I had never garnered the success that I have just in the short three years. his brain has been, you know, around. And when it happened, I had launched Revolt Television with Puff in 2013, and I moved to LA.

I was- Salute the Revolt, they fuck with us. Salute the P-D-D-E-D-E-D-E. Salute. Salute the P-D-D-T. Yeah, so we went out there, we moved to L.A. But when I moved out there, in my contract, I had that once the senior level executive package

was defined, I would get my piece, right? Because it wasn't defined yet. That's the trickery, right? So I get into it. into the contract, and then midway through, Sean's like, yo, come over to Sean Cone's Wine Experience and help us out with Ciroc, and we got this tequila we want to launch.

So Apple Ciroc was my launch, I launched Delianna Tequila. Now mind you, I'm still on this contract though. He doubled my salary, but I'm still on this contract because I want some ownership. That was all I wanted to do. Like at this point in my career, that's the only thing I hadn't achieved. And when you don't own something,

you don't get residuals. When you don't own something, you can't go, you know, leverage something against nothing. So this was my thing. And so when it didn't happen, I was like, I'm going back. And he paid me out handsomely to leave. I give him that. But when I got back to Atlanta, literally, I was like, damn, like, square one.

Now, mind you, I'm 40-something years old. And I'm talking about square one. Not square one that's not having no paper. That's carried in the motherfucker. Yeah, but not having no paper. But square one is like I'm adapting and adjusting again. Anytime you pivot in business, you're subject to lose it all. Please know that.

Anytime you're putting your own money up for things. Anytime you're putting your all into something, you're subject to lose, but you've got to be willing to lose. Because if you're willing to lose, you're willing to gain. And two months later, literally, after I moved back, a guy I played golf with one time in my law, I don't play golf. I do not play golf. My partner was like, I knew he was getting a bag.

I wanted to be around another bag, another level of bag. He was 40 million up. I wanted to be around the billionaire dudes. A dudes had the had the billion. They was VCs. So I'm like, let me go. It's Trump golf course. Actually, this is way before Trump in office.

This is way before Trump and office. Yeah, he got a golf course, God damn. He got a bunch of golf course. So I'm drinking, I'm on the buggy all day. I ain't swing at eight. I swung just for play, play. I wasn't even into it. Fucking round.

Dude remembers me from that day, one time meeting me, and when he did the series A raise for Uncle Nears, he had reached out and was like, look, I know what you're doing the spirits business. You know, we want you to come and do something with this, but you got to meet the lady Fawn Weaver. And so Fawn Weaver, a sister, Married to Keith, yeah, a black woman.

What's up, Ms. Weidberg? Yeah, married to Keith Weaver, flew down to Lynchburg, and just, where I was in my life, again, it was another pivot. And I'm hearing this information, to your point of saying reparation, I'm hearing this information, right, on what's going on. A slave taught Jack Daniels how to make whiskey. Right. And so I'm hearing this story, but not only am I hearing of D.C., I'm on the holy ground. I'm at ground zero. I'm where all this shit is happening.

So she's taking me through the process. Now, my, let me see you a bottle for a second. She takes me to the square. You know what I'm saying? She tells me about the racial tension and how this family, the Green family, was prominent in this place. And I'm like, Lynchburg, Tennessee,

how are they prominent? She's telling me these stories, and I'm getting hip, I'm getting hip. Then she takes me to this farm. This house is on the farm called the Dan Carl Farm. This is where a young Jack Daniels came as an orphan, and this is where Uncle Nears was the best whiskey maker

in the county, right? So the whole time I'm on this land she's taking, I'm drinking water out to creaking shit, I'm doing just shit I ain't never done you know what I'm saying? Because the limestone purifies the water, they get this whole thing, that's why it's one of the magic sauces or secret sauces to Tennessee

whiskey. But long story short, I'm going through the whole process and I'm getting more and more information. So I'm like, look, I want in. You know what I'm saying? I want 20% of the company. You know what I'm saying? I'm talking because I'm coming in like I can take this to a story I don't blew up shit with less story you'd be like I'm giving advice to single women and shit absolutely so I'm like I want 20% she said

yeah exactly she's a bitch shit I can't give you 20% to company but we can work on something because I love your energy and I think you can help the brain so long story short I can leave we get in the business about a month later kind of find out later on that not only was this the not only did she own this property she bought 300 acres Dan calls a prominent figure in the story of Jack Daniels Jack Daniel does not own the Dan called farm we own the Dan Carl farm and this is the house on it but not only did I not know that this was a prominent piece and she had started like Monopoly Boy she started getting pieces the Talley House which is another prominent figure in Jack Daniels she owned

They live in that property. They're living that property. Hey, Kenney. Buy all that shit. Yeah, no. But she's black, no. She's black. She's a superhero.

But I'm gonna fuck you up even more. This house, the Dan Carl Farm is actually distillery number seven. Oh, number seven is Jack Daniel's moniker. Right, on the bottom. We own distillery number seven. And she uncovered it. God damn. She uncovered it.

Farm Weaver uncovered the shit, right? So I'm a part of all this fucking history. And that's why I was saying to him outside is the best thing I've been a part of because you think it's going to be your legacy. I made millions of dollars. But your legacy is tied to somebody else's legacy in a way that you wouldn't have got on your own.

That was my point about dream. It's cool. Yeah, I'm still, Kenny Burns, so about to be the biggest shit after the corona. All that. But at the same time, you know, I have my dream. This is my dream. I want to ownership.

I want to be a part of history. This will be, my face will be in a distillery a hundred million years from now, God willing that everything's still intact, to show people that I was at the beginning of this. And that's, you know, that's fucking history. Hell yeah. That's beautiful.

I know, I know it's some Jack Daniels. That's why I gotta hollets you about the, my mind. It's an old white man just found that out like, I'll be a son of a bitch. You didn't tell me about what? Hell, yeah, phones, Jack Daniels, First NASCAR Now this shit

God So you're gonna tell me next The Michael Jordan owns Harley Davidson Hold up And the reason why I want y'all to be in the Spirit business I'm about to fuck you all the way up

Come on then Casamigos was owned by George Clooney and Peter Gerber I think it's Peter Gerber Peter Gerber a fun fact that for him I think it's Peter Gerber He's a hospitality guy They in four years

were a 79,000 case brand no distillery no nothing they sold for a billion dollars well look we got some shit boy we didn't already make I don't fuck you up yet I ain't fuck you up yet we've been sold 79,000 cases

we in our third year and I'm just saying we have a and we have a distillery that is it will rival any distillery in the business let alone whiskey and so what I'm saying to y'all is y'all got also now that y'all got this platform now that y'all had an opportunity where people are actually buying what you're selling you've got to create the products man give it to them they're gonna buy it we'll be at old number seven yeah and i want to take y'all up there i want to take y'all on the tour man we got we gotta go i got i got to go hug this black woman i'm real hugger for and mind you all these motherfuckers i made money for all these people i've been in business with come on here with the fun fact

you're gonna read that yeah randy gerber that's what i said yep you said peter you said peter huh said Peter oh oh I said Peter so Randy Gerber thank you love but yeah they got but I'm gonna fuck you up though what was I don't know now now all the people you've been in business with 7,000 cases three years all the people I've been in business with all the motherfuckers I made money for all the people that seem my light when I ain't see it for myself right it took a complete stranger to offer me equity and something and y'all got to realize y'all got to realize the people y'all think gonna do it ain't gonna be the people that's gonna do it it's gonna be the motherfucker come out the woodwork because they see you

That's an angel. That's an angel. I tell her all the time. That's an angel. That's an angel. I tell her all the time. But you know what I always tell. I always pray for this, you know what I'm saying?

I ask God to guide my footsteps. And every time I place my feet somewhere, I always try to find my purpose on wherever I'm at. You dig what I'm saying? So by me listen to your story, I'm like, this nigga in the woods on acres with some black lady teacher telling him I hope he's in the life, God, you got this lady in front of me for a reason. Right. It's my duty to embrace all this right now. But that's why I know you special, because to say, like, when you plant your feet, you become aware. A lot of us aren't aware in any moment, let alone to stop immediately.

I do that every time I show up. Before I touch a microphone, before I speak to people. I got to see what's going on. But you also got to be thankful for the moment. Because when you can be thankful walking into the moment, you're going to receive, you're open to receive everything there. And that's why I be trying people, like, tell people it's like, y'all be going into shit with, premeditated notions of what you think supposed to happen. No, be open to receive.

See, the gift is the ability to receive and then regurgitate. See, that's exactly what we do. That defines exactly what I'm giving y'all, y'all props. That's why I'm even, and y'all are older than him. But that's why, like, for him to even be 28 to see that. You know what I'm saying? Like, y'all together is beautiful because one is showing black men that we could do things together. And that's the most important thing y'all can teach a motherfucker, like real talk.

But to walk in your purpose, that's a. anointment that's like all this pool pitch shit they're going on people just want to get in for the likes or the conversation so real shit can happen with this for y'all because of the genuine and authentic nature that you're presenting that's all i want to tell y'all and i respect we appreciate we appreciate you we respect this shit for real like this is just amazing i want i got to go here and then we got we got we came up with the Carlos bernard we was talking about uh yeah that's the next one and uh carlo's middle name is bernard he said that sound like a cheap liquor, but the reality is,

nigga, that shit do sound like some shit the motherfucker get right on, some collar on. No, listen. Don't dumb it. Listen, it is what it is. I wish I would listen to Damon Dash when he told me to take them button-ups from $300, $400 down to $69.99. This before Walter's got a hold on, this before

everybody was selling a button-up. Walters were selling button-up. This is how popular we had this shit. My thing is, I should have listened because it's about the motherfucking revenue. It's not about your personal preference. If you know you got a brand and this is who you speaking to and they gonna go. I know my people.

I know my people. They're not buying that. That's too nice. 1999. It's perfect. Those niggas. My next offering gonna be $20. Watch what I tell.

This is $60 a bottle, but my next offer will be $20. And I'm the fly. I think I'm one of the fly motherfuckers, especially to be my age still in the game. But I promise you, I hear y'all. Y'all, don't dumb down. Y'all should give it to them how they want it. We know how they wanted. You know what I'm saying?

We spoke to her. We know exactly how they wanted. We know exactly how they wanted. We ain't going to talk all the dynamics right now, but we'll get it. We're going to wrap. Whatever I can help. I ain't gonna lie. Shit, you know how.

You know exactly how. You got to stop them seminars, though, real talk. No, what I need to do is bring, you need gross secrets to that bag. Don't let this. I'm not opposed to that. I offered myself up. I offered myself up to come. Let me find out what location is.

I'm going to be outside. You guys. You guys. Stop this madness. Stop this. Kenny Burns must be stopped. Put the propaganda post for it. You see this face.

You can't trust. No, can't be your bedding though, man, because this mobile status, you feel what I'm saying? Don't let you be the last thing you come through here. Please. No, I love it, man. For you to say that you, like, now you, like, finally seeing, like, your purpose. You didn't help everybody out in the game.

You didn't damn their stamp. You're an architect of this shit, you feel, me. But for you, they'd be like, all right, now I'm satisfied. You know what I'm saying? still, you know what I'm saying, implement everything that I learned into the actual product and brand that you want, you feel what I'm saying?

And this is another gangster thing. I ain't put one dollar up for my sheds. Not one dollar. See, we should have stopped you before you said. My likeness and who I am in culture got me my equity. So that's full circle. And I want y'all to know that,

like y'all matter like that. And when you go talk to these folks, you gotta put the weight of everything you've done and who you are on the table. I'm even guilty. of like shorten, you know, shorten myself. You know what I'm saying?

I am guilty of it too. Stop doing that. I'm not going to do it anymore. That's what we're here for. We're here to uplift brothers, man. Stop doing that. And I promise I'm not. But at the same time,

you have to know what it feels like to know your work. You cannot come in nowhere thinking it's automatic because I did something. Right, right. What they say, your best thing you did

was the thing you just did. Right. What have you done for me? So I think we just, for us as a, as people, we got to know our value. We got to know our value and we got to get what we came for. We often go in and take what they give us. You know what I'm saying? I was telling him outside, I got offers out of woodwork for TKBS and like linear radio,

I mean, terrestrial radio, like, I'm wondering, like, do I even want to do that anymore? Like, I don't really need nobody. All my, everybody you've seen coming to Kenny Byrne show from the Apollo, to Kevin Hart, whoever, they all been my partner. I've had 50s, I've actually my 50th episode next week. Like you got resources. You know what I, why should I go around? Like everybody does.

Like this shit ain't six degrees no more, like it was for us growing up. It's time to use your resources. Yeah, it's time. It's easy now. You're talking about this shit. We just did that. You just did that episode. What?

Who? That shit, you did. You did. We know too many, bro. We know too many motherfuckers to be asking niggins for no one. I'm asking what you said this shit. We don't know. What I just saying outside?

Yeah, that's exactly what you said. We know too many of my fucking to be asking a nigga for an opportunity. When we can put money up and create a fund, that's how a fun start. You digger what I'm saying? And then we go on from now, man. Because at the end of the day, I'm tired of asking me for what they got for me when they really need me to help the company. Come on. Yeah, I mean, straight up.

Straight up. There's a bunch of niggas. Look, there's a bunch of niggas. that don't know culture running culture you got to stop right after this after they got control of our culture no for show let it go that's a fact that's a fact but guess what after this everything going to be different let it go after this everything going to be different the way people consume so but you know but you know what we got to do we got to continue to say hey y'all continue to have that corona mindset just because if you back open to free

they start giving our stimulus check don't be traps remember it ain't going to never be like that we ain't got to worry about that if black people will just support their own the world we are the world the world ain't the world the world is just saying that too like the how many times the black dollar don't bounce around our community but the thing is like a lot of people now they don't have the ability to be able to see the profit in

the shit that they've normally looked at for their whole life but now that shit has changed and the world look different now the same places that you've been even if it's to a restaurant when you're going to be going to the restaurant for your whole life now you go on there they got exes on the table nothing is the same even just

the smallest visual aspect So everything changes. So now that everything has changed, I hope that black people realize that we've had this gold mine that we've been walking on for generations and for some reason, niggas just ain't fucked around

and did the right thing, but now we can't. But you know what? I just told my little people in the neighborhood other day, I said, bro, you got to understand because I had this mindset. When you in the hood,

they don't demoralize our mindset that we don't think outside of a little ad, two, three screech that we grew up on. Because they gave us, you see what I'm saying? Like, that's all I know. Adam is for.

Marlute King. Crime and sports. That's what they left. But that's what I'm saying. We got drug dealing, sports, and rappers. If we feel like we don't do the old three, we don't fail in life. My nigga, no, that ain't the case. It's so much of the shit and there's so many jobs out there.

And whatever that you good at, and God gave you a talent that, you should use it. You see what I'm saying? Because like you say, every dough will open up another dog. You got to trust God to guide your footsteps. It's like, all right. You don't, nigger, you have to get your bitch. Watch ass up off your ass and walk and use your feet because the, listen, it's not going to come to you. You feel me.

You got to go out there and be ready for the world, the lessons, the failures, the wins, the losses, all the pain because that comes with the trials and tribulation just to reach a certain point to know that God is real. And second of all, you can do whatever you want to do if you put your mind here. You're sure, niggas want to be successful right now, dude. Word up. And that's what, but, but, okay, okay, but look, though, money don't mean you are successful. It doesn't, come on. It does not. But so, just because you think it's a dollar, man, give me the mother.

You got to fly. You got it. That don't mean that you are successful, my nigga. You did what I'm saying? So every day that you are growing your mind state or whatever, first of all, I'm going to give you another word, attainment. Play me some pimp, attainment. Attainment to atonement. Attainment.

Some people just really be looking for success. They need to be worrying about attainment. Continuing to be consistency to have those attainment because now you're being successful because you're walking in your purpose. Can I tell you the only thing you're missing in your game? The only thing you're missing in your game is going in them boardrooms talking just like that.

That's the only thing you're missing. And eat the crab legs when you get in there. No, no. My last two meetings. See, this is right. No, no. My last two meetings was like that. Okay, but I can't I can't let this go.

I can't let this go. Please tell it to me. Because the problem with us is that business is business. We can be who we are. We can be free. We can smoke. We can do that we want to do. But business is, until we write in the check, until we got the money, we have to handle business.

And that's all I, you ain't got to be in no suit. You ain't got to be able to go talk and connect with the person you're trying to get something out of. That's life. Something words that get them And you don't need nobody speaking for y'all None of y'all. Y'all all are brilliant Like the way that y'all, first of all, timing is probably one of the most

underrated skill sets in the history of the world. You are comedians. Your time is impeccable. You set the whole motherfucking show until you got to fucking for women on it and you murdered it. Because you had, I'm not, that you had your, listen what I'm telling you, I'm talking about all three of y'all are

brilliant, and timing is something you can't teach. You can't teach motherfucker when to say the right shit how you think that's gonna transform the room full of money they need a nigga who need to say the right they need a person they can count on that's trusted by the culture because they don't know culture stop let's stop the dumbing ourselves down this ain't no this ain't rocket signs and the thing about it is y'all proving it so y'all social generation that really benefiting from it y'all proving it but now you got to take it off of instagram and put it on goddamn yo shit

You gotta take it all. And this is what I'm trying to tell y'all, man, they can't fuck with y'all, man. But see, y'all out here that supporting for the last in the moment, y'all got to stay down. LaFace records don't exist because y'all ain't stay down. Motown records ain't exist because niggins want cancel culture. Talk your shit. We don't own shit. They don't let them get the fucking.

Big shout to Ritchie Lou Dennis for buying Essus back. Well, who the fuck? What we got from them days? We ain't got none of that shit. Carcana don't own shit. Nobody own nothing. Fun fact that, but I'm damn sure. But my point to y'all is, y'all can own your shit.

The money isn't in ownership. The money ain't in sharing money with these motherfuckers that don't know you. The only advantage they got is they got the capital to the back you. Right. But y'all don't need the... I'm looking at 1,600 cameras in here, y'all. They got the cameras, they got the guitars and shit. The shit is real, man.

I got that boat. We got about 15. We got about four. Oh. God damn, kidding. They're gonna be over trying to take out of it, bro. That's okay. We ain't got enough to do the job.

That's just saying the shit, yeah. We hold them. We hold them. Holy shit. What's that? Is that a red camera? No, no, that's okay. No, that's okay.

Yeah, it's the Sony. Yeah, it's the one they recorded the Rodney King beat with, but we know how to rig the shit up really good. I feel exactly what you're saying. Just like we were talking on the last joint. Like you said, we got everything we need to have everything we want. Right. Y'all got the power, man.

Power is purpose. Power is not like, please, man. Again, back to your, you got to know of something spiritual out here guiding us, y'all. You might not have to believe in God in church, I'm sorry, church, but you got to believe in God. They better believe. Right. You better believe. I always tell a nigga, I, you better believe.

Let me tell you something, man. God is real, man. You dig what I'm saying? what y'all got let me tell you something god is real and he'll come in any type of form so that's why when i say when you say you're stepping into the room and you got to you got to brace yourself because first of all you don't know who's the angel hello you see what i'm saying you don't know who is the angel so you got to be paying attention to everything that's moving and when you and you're annoyed about off the conversation hello right and the energy is right and like you said it could be the

Janitor, man. They want to know what you doing, talk to Johnson? Man, boy. Well, that energy right there, man, I had to have that conversation. You see what I'm saying? Because I know an angel. Man, I got out of my car.

I was driving, right? I was driving. Nigger is in the middle of the lane. He's painting, he on the car. He's homeless, though. And I like art. That was dope. I pulled up in two-third in the morning.

Boom, boom, get out. Hey, what's that, O.G, man. I like the art, Sprang Tim. He's, you know, he's talking bad. You know, he's on it, but he's gonna say. But he gave me game, though. You see what I'm saying? Game that stuck with me that this is somebody who homes.

You feel what I'm saying? 2.30 in the morning. And I'm just sitting out there kicking shit. Because he ain't thinking nobody from to come out here and kick shit. So now he's, he know this game and knowledge that he got, he can spread it on to somebody. Don't matter the what you're predicting me in here. He got knowledge for a nigga.

And I'm like, and I paid him for whatever it was. But I'm just sitting up like, you know what, OG? Damn, we got to do better. Just on, it's some way you went wrong again, but I'm not going to knock you for that. But guess what, I look at you as an example. Because you know what, we got to keep succeeding. We got to keep scribing.

And that game that you gave me, I'm going to give it to somebody else too. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, you got to understand. I don't know anybody, you know what I'm saying. That's why we appreciate it. Like, that's why I got to say, man, just, you know, big kudos and appreciation to you, man, for giving that game that you gave out in that documentary, man, because I'm telling you a big reason of why I'm sitting right here is

because I stumbled upon that. And what you put down in that, help me understand that I always had it. It's like my favorite movie is The Last Dragon. And it's so much, yeah, it's so much game in that movie that people miss. And I, you know, Salubbery Gordon for putting it out because the glow, it's already in you.

Whatever your glow is, you got it. You just gotta realize what it is. And you gotta come to understand what your glow is and how to put it out. And once you put it out, can't nobody fuck with you. And that was a pivotal point, and me realizing my glow, something that I didn't always have. I'd always been the fly ass nigger.

I'd have always been able to do all this shit that we in the community that I come from think is cool, but I ain't never put my mind to really challenging my skill set and what I'm able to do. And when I saw that challenging myself, I always was trying to impress the status quo and make sure that the status quo fit whatever it is I was doing. But after I saw your journey

and knowing you came from the same streets I came from, And it was like, I had never heard of you before then. That's another thing that motivated me. It was like, I'm 20 years old at that point. And I'm like, I ain't never even heard of this nigga. Like, who is this dude? And from that moment, I realized that, man, I got a responsibility to utilize what I got because I've always been special.

But I ain't ever challenged myself. From that moment on was a bit loser. Right. And from that moment on, and even without me, that's real though. Even without me challenging myself, I'd have always been extraordinary. Even without challenging myself. So if I did, then what would I be at? able to accomplish and here we sit man so I salute you man thank you brother thank you

I love and I want to say this to all the youngest too man like you you you know it's okay to not be on the front line a lot of people can't handle the front line I was never on the front line early you know what I'm saying I was always doing my thing but my light wouldn't let me be behind everybody but for so long but you got to be okay with that you got to be able to embrace that and know that your purpose is going to deliver you to where you need to be. And I just want y'all to realize that, man, because this light, everybody can't handle it.

You know what I'm saying? It brings the worst out of people. It puts you in compromising positions. Right. And everybody ain't mentally strong enough to handle it. And when I tell you, I've seen people commit suicide, got arrested dead.

I've seen people become drug addicts, lose their whole sense of like, they don't know they stink, fucked up teeth. I mean, I've seen the business And this is the majority of the people. This is not, it's like a handful of motherfuckers really made it. You know what I'm saying?

But I want you all to be conscious of what you're getting into. Study, learn about the shit you want to get into. And don't come into this shit blind, man. Because just like D.C. said, man, both of y'all said, you play basketball, sport. That ain't the only shit you could do, man. The best idea wins. Anything I've ever seen. Any business, genre of business, anything, the best idea.

win so niggins good at everything man exactly black people are fucking talented and a lot of shit and you don't even know you good at some shit until you do it yeah trial in there is the best way to learn school to teach you something to be afraid to fail fucking losers you had to play some pepid on this guitar you really live in life you guys you know Prince is my father in my in my mind there you go you got a pick I never meant to cause you in the pain oh you been on this look oh hey I ain't ain't gonna look at I was fin the brace my son but this bullshit I was like I'm glad that they got put that in the documentary I'd be like oh this nigger fake I ain't gonna be like I'm gonna be strata this nigga finesse and that's how he get them single ladies in there I know you be going to do some pain boom one note

we get married it ain't the same so y'all really gonna play the doc after this man I would be honored yes man I want people to see it how long is it 35 minutes 35 is short it ain't even long That's cool, depend on how they edit. Y'all edit, right. Hey, drop some info where these people can catch up on you. I know a lot. You probably made some new fans on here today. At Kenny Burns on everything. The Kenny Burns show on YouTube.

I just started my YouTube page. Congrats with y'all. I really admire, man. I was just telling Chico, before y'all came, man, like seeing y'all do it make me want to be on, like, be more active on. You know, I'm an OG-O-G. Like, I ain't really into, but, you know, the social thing is. But the kids are tapped in, man.

These motherfuckers, like, I had to understand, like, I, even though I'm, you know what I be doing that stupid shit. I got to let you phone know, I'm smart, too. No, you are, bro. And keep, listen, and do it unapologetically. Don't think, because that's, that was my thing. I just told you, I'm finally accepting, I was telling Lowe's before show, I'm finally accepting my,

I'm an OG. Like, I'm at that age where I could share the game, I can push it in perspective. We need it, no, but the gangst and shit is, a lot of people don't want to do that. Right, a lot of people don't want, like, they just don't want to let go. Because you know why?

It ain't enough young nigg that saying, A-O-G, I want you to keep some of that pimpy. You feel me? Like, that's why I say, I'm one of them niggas that want to hear that shit. Like, I want it because that motivate me. It's not no hang standpoint. Like, oh, man, you motherfuckers thing. No, nigga, exactly.

Show me how you got it, because, nigga, I admire that. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, if you got the blueprint already, and I know you, you're a resource. Hey, yes, I know. If you broke the code, you broke the code. If everybody here broke the code, that's 15 different blueprint. I'm at the crib ring, every lab blueprint.

You see what I'm saying? Because that only going to help me in my mind stuff. That's dope, man. Keep going, y'all. I applaud y'all, man. I respect your movement. Oh, look, Ken, before you go, you got to do the famous.

We just started the last show. You got to do the famous shoulder. E, E, double steel, E, E, come on. E, E, E, E. We in the game. We're in the game. Hey! Hey, man, we appreciate you coming from my trap house.

Welcome to any time. We're gonna proceed with this Uncle Nair is hitting on. Yeah, oh yeah. World famous, Kidney Bird, one more time, man. One more time, man. Tune it to the Kenny Burns Show. Love. What my man Roy at, man, man, shoot us up.

Craig, shoot us up. Thank you. OG. I love. Appreciate the words. I love, come, man. We got a book. Yeah, I got a book.

Real. Yep. Dream is real. I'm about to ask you Simon she's about to let me read. I need, I need to, I need to goddamn read some shit. I don't know, I'm going to read shit later. No, it's not here. I don't like all your books.

I don't like nothing that handicapped me. Because I'm going to get used to that. You need to be able to know the words. More words that I know, I realize when I'm reading, I can't even sign out the other words. I'm like, wait, I'm smarter than this shit. No, look, we got some new merchant. Man, come on, man.

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