The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Amanda Seales in the Trap | The 85 South Show

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

Comedian Amanda Seales pulled up to 85 South Show to sit down with Karlous Miller and Chico Bean. Amanda explains the things she has to go through as a female comedian and entertainer. The Black Effec...t Podcast Network will be making history again with the first Black Effect Podcast Festival taking place on April 22nd in Atlanta. 85 SOUTH will be hitting the live podcast stage with WHOREible Decisions, Checking In With Michelle Williams, Reasonably Shady, BIG FACTS and many more. Make sure to grab your tickets today at BlackEffect.com  || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:04 We went through the same scenario. Let's just say we both got knock on wood hit by a car when we was young. Now we're scared of the highway. Okay. My way of healing from that might not be the same way you do, but if we both aren't afraid of the highway anymore, why is my journey to getting there different from yours and I'm wrong because it is? Like, that don't make no sense to me. That's just someone who's still dealing with abandonment issues and wants to control everything. Yeah, well, that's most people. Yeah, most of these wishes is lost. There we go.
Starting point is 00:03:33 We got to that quick. See how quick that was? That was very... That's just how you talk it out right there, on the couch with Amanda Seals. There we go. Y'all scared of the highway. I went to jail for whooping the motherfucker ass who hit me.
Starting point is 00:03:49 But you... Why is that wrong? That was your way of healing. I did, money. You healed by... You served your purpose. Yeah. You served your time.
Starting point is 00:03:59 Damn, that's crazy. I was thinking about that. What? Go back and go get some old work. I mean, if they done gone through, you know, a journey or two. It's different, though. Why? Ooh, that's different.
Starting point is 00:04:15 I don't think so. I think it really doesn't matter of who still wants the best for themselves and for you. And sometimes that's, like, as basic as that is, I think that can be hard to find. It is hard to learn It's safe It's safer That's very safe Somebody that you know though
Starting point is 00:04:32 It's much safer Because at least you know what you're getting You know what I mean You don't have to go there was the point of this shit anyway You don't have to go through that Preliminary process Where you're trying to figure out if you like somebody Before you give them a pussy
Starting point is 00:04:44 And then you've got to get to that point Where you don't know if you like the fucking Which is very very very swept under the rug in these relationships That's what I'm scared to go back from See what if you go back and she fucking completely different. Well, that's a blessing.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I don't know. I've had this. I don't know. That's a blessing. But I'm talking about when you don't know somebody. See, most of the time when you just getting to know somebody, you sweeping under the rug like, you know, hey, let's go out to dinner, let's go to the movies. When in reality, you really just want to know if y'all fuck each other well.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Because if you don't, then all of the movie dates and the dinner dates is pointless. But would you say that sometimes how y'all fuck is there? determined by the connection y'all had before you fucked. Uh-uh, see, that's what throws me out. I don't want you fucking me all respectfully. I want you to fuck me like you was raised in a household with no adults. I want you to, all that trauma and shit, bring that to the sexual table. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Suck my dick like your heart broke. Yeah. Like you've been like down. Like the nigger that broke your heart watching. Yeah. Disappoint your parents on my shit. Proof the point. Your point.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Go your home training out the window. Show me your mama made a home. I'm not laughing because I've done that. See? At least you're honest enough to say. Now you're happy. Look at the relationship you in now, you're prospering. That's fucking crazy.
Starting point is 00:06:18 I don't know. I think at the end of the day, you know, I've had that, I've had a scenario where I did dust off another, another, I mean, I think there's a lot of folks that, like, we met each other younger and then we've, we've, we've, we've, double back, so spun the block as they say. Yeah, he spun the block, so they say, as they say, and, um, wasn't the same. Damn. Wasn't the same. Didn't, didn't have the same, to the point where I had to pull him to the side. And was like, you know, I think he had gone through a divorce. I think, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:51 See, them damaged goods. Yeah. She took the mojo. She took your dick off the chaise. Yeah. She took your dick off the Charger champ, and she left with the Charger. Well, if married sex is anything like they say it is,
Starting point is 00:07:03 you ain't putting much effort into that. And he just showed up like, ah, ah. Yeah, it's, it's a protocol. Oh, that was some terrible dick. That nigga gave her some pussy. Yeah, that was a right. Now, you definitely need therapy, your lady leave you for a lady, bruce.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yeah, man. But when you think about it, let's go deep into the wormhole. Let's go deep into the wormhole. Can you really say that? Because the thing about it, we get one dick. The lesbian ladies get a choice. They get a myriad. So.
Starting point is 00:07:40 You're going to be surprised to find out that more than half of them ain't even using dicks. They're using anatomy. That's a niche market. They're using anatomy class. Really? Some of them using toys and some of them, they just natural. Yeah, the system. Oh, the lessee, when you talk about it up there, cut your shit.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Cut your shit all the way off. God damn, what happened? Huh? Us. She called the people? You calling the people on this? Oh, that's you over there. I'm like, I'm like, how are they missing me?
Starting point is 00:08:17 I'm just, this is my nigga that I'm not even thinking she's a nigga to me. I'm just trying to give my guys a second to reset. You see, you still got the red lights on. That mean we're going to hell. That's what that mean? Wow. You can put that in perspective. We back in this one ain't on yet.
Starting point is 00:08:33 You just recently had a big controversy. You was giving you perspective on. Oh yeah. Oh, yeah. You and your relationship. Oh, my God. Though, listen. You had a controversy?
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah, I went on the breakfast club and said that I didn't want to be in a relationship of New America. He said, oh yeah, all the way. See, there you go. That is the perfect response. You're still on that. Me and you have had this conversation.
Starting point is 00:08:54 years ago. Years. Years. Nothing has changed, but when it's new to people, they act like they have never heard somebody say anything that's remotely close to what they believe, or opposite of what they believe. And I'm seeing that in the response because I don't understand how me saying I don't do something is in turn telling you you shouldn't.
Starting point is 00:09:15 And that's been the response. Like the response has been, like I said, you should be in relationship. Because they want to be in a relationship with you. No, I don't know who these women are. women are these are random people in the comments have no connection to any of these people these people are just probably like think if i met him i could have a shot well they're wrong and i'm letting know that they're wrong but the thing but but as a woman i'll say this do you believe this is the most simplistic question that you can ask a woman in my opinion okay do you believe that women
Starting point is 00:09:45 want a man to be honest with them that shit'll never work i tell you about look it'll never work You be out here telling women the truth, you ain't never gonna have shit. Okay, can I say this? I think we want honesty, but we want tact. They want you to be honest about everything else, but lie to them. What honest are you talking about? Because some shit doesn't need to be said on either part.
Starting point is 00:10:09 That's what I'm saying. Fuck honesty. But that's not honesty. I mean, that's not, what is it, lying by omission? Sometimes you have to lie to keep shit sweet. I don't know if lying is the word. I ain't saying like lying high and another family. I'm just saying them lies.
Starting point is 00:10:27 Yeah, them lies that make shit feel good. You feel me? Oh, you look lovely in that dress, baby. Them little conversational lives. Like, we're happy over here. My girl would never, like that type of shit. Yeah. Little relationship lives.
Starting point is 00:10:43 Them like nails to keep that shit together. I mean, I think people in general want honesty when they want honesty. And I think that's the thing. It's like sometimes you just ain't ready for it. want to hit you, you're like, ooh, I wasn't ready. So it's knowing that you need the honesty, but also making space for it. And I think a lot of people don't make space for it.
Starting point is 00:11:04 Chigo, you made space for? I don't give a fuck what you made space for. I'm telling you. What's it was your last relationship, Chico? This is who I am. So if you're not ready for it, you have the choice to move away from it. What are they getting from you? What do you mean?
Starting point is 00:11:17 What are they getting from me? Like, what is the, like, what is the, what is the commitment? Like, what is the commitment is. What is the arrangement, I guess? Well, there is no conventional arrangement. Like, the thing is, if you, that did, well, I would call it an understanding. If you deal with me, like, people always say,
Starting point is 00:11:34 this is two things I hear, like, you're going, who wants to be old and lonely, and who hurt you? Those are the two things. But the heart you is real. You definitely wanna be old and lonely. You need somebody to run down near the Walgreens to get you some of them shoes with the billcrow.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Exactly, and some of them compression stops. I agree. Yep. Well, look, my thing was your last relationship. What year did you decide? Fuck this shit. Word. 15 years.
Starting point is 00:12:03 What about that made you be like, I'm done with this shit? Self-reflection. I've never had the luxury of running away from facing myself and being and doing the self-reflection that you have to do as a man to be okay with what you present to the outside world. You ever fuck the relationship up?
Starting point is 00:12:17 Huh? You ever fuck the relationship up? I'm talking about... A whole relationship. And the only one I actually count is the one And I followed the rules in, where I didn't cheat and wasn't lying, it wasn't full of shit. You know, we jumped off the porch earlier. So you did it, you did it wrong a few times, and then you did it right.
Starting point is 00:12:32 I did it right. Then I did it right and realized, okay, it's the same shit. It's the same shit. You know what I mean? It's the same shit. And you did it quick. So why I participate in that mental, but back to your question. So what the arrangement is, is there is no way that, in my opinion, I can end up lonely because I'm never put myself in a position
Starting point is 00:12:53 where you would need to leave me. And plus, if you look at the motherfuckers in the world, ain't nobody lonely. And who I am is not conducive to what I need from you. Well, I, but I, huh. No, say what you say. You know, this is what we do. We have these conversations all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:08 No, I think that you won't be lonely just because you're making a choice to be a loner. So that's a choice, you know. Well, very much so. And I love my own best friend. The people who end up feeling lonely are the folks who feel like they are not making the choice, like, you know?
Starting point is 00:13:25 And so that's why you get a lot of women who are like, I'm single bitch, and I love it because when you make a choice. That's hurt. That's pain. No. That's pain. No. Sometimes it's just nice to not have no nigger that can make you cry around. Niggas shouldn't make you cry anyway.
Starting point is 00:13:40 Yeah, niggas should be making you cry anyway. Unfortunately, that's just the reality of things. But that's the thing. If you don't want to be made cry, if you don't want a nigger to make you cry, why would a nigger that's telling you all the things that he's not going to do, make you sad in any capacity. If you know, if you go into a room, if somebody say, hey, when you walk in here,
Starting point is 00:13:59 there's gonna be some crack heads. And they're smoking crack. They're gonna blow it in your face, and then they're gonna rub some boo-boo on your forehead. If you know that and then still decide to walk in that room, that means you like boo-bo on your forehead and crack heads. So where would you have a problem in that if that is being presented to you before you walk in the room?
Starting point is 00:14:19 The only way it would be a problem, in my opinion. The judgment. that would come from other people like you like crack hands and boo-boo. No, I think it's just a disappointment. Like that- That means you had expectations. Well, they know they don't like crack heads and boo-boo. And if that's all you offering, you're like,
Starting point is 00:14:34 damn, I wish you were offering something I could actually get down with. Right, before you walk in the door, though. You don't walk in when you know that that's not what you want. So you're saying that they're upset that you are that you are telling them ahead of time something that they don't want. No, nobody that I'm telling this is upset with me. The people in the comments are just mad because I'm upset. are just mad because I as a man I don't think that they're used to seeing men be honest publicly
Starting point is 00:14:56 most men are afraid to say that they feel the way that I feel out loud it's really just that most men aren't public honest aren't most men aren't honest aren't publicly honest and so the conversation can't even be had exactly how are these comments affecting your love like none because ain't nobody who I fuck would not heard this shit before it's not new to anybody who knows me you just heard her say well you're still on that week This is not new to anybody who really knows me, so it's strangers who is upset with the way that I choose to live, but that's your right.
Starting point is 00:15:29 I'm not mad at you. So you ain't fucking with nobody real, real hard. I'm saying, in the last 15 years, and you was just like. And they're all still around. She might be the- They're all still around. Now that, hold on, all that's the feat in the fucking self.
Starting point is 00:15:43 They're all still around, even if they're not, and that's the thing, people go straight to sex. But do they have the same mindset about relationships as you? Now they do. Do you stop fucking them when they get a boyfriend? Yes, I have to. But that doesn't stop me. Why you have to?
Starting point is 00:15:58 Because I'm not, wait, wait, wait. Why? Because I'm not in the ruin and nobody's happiness. But she was fucking up first. But it doesn't matter. That's like somebody. But I'm not saying it's a position. No, that's right.
Starting point is 00:16:10 If I'm fucking her and if I'm fucking her first. If I trade like, time out, no. You're fucking mom. No. You fucking mopped. No. You should be 30. No.
Starting point is 00:16:21 If I trade in the car, if I trade in the car, I can't just tuck her back and be like, hey, nigger, this my old Cadillac. Get the fuck out the driver's shit. Yes, but if he wrecked this Cadillac, I know I'm the only nigger that can put this barber back on. When this nigga wrecked this shit, who they're going to call to come get this shit? She was leasing this nigga and you're on the, that's a difference. Your name, you are on the title. But the thing is, it's not always about. women go straight to fucking like they don't like the fact that you think a man is just out here just giving bV away and that's not what it is take pussy completely off the table sex is completely
Starting point is 00:17:01 out the last thing on my mind like if i'm able to bill with you then we're able to bill for a lifetime right i don't need no pussy from you i can jerk off and nut like that fucking the pussy can you leave her in the house without her fucking with all my shit and without you fuck it with nothing because i trust you to be somebody that i can depend on to help me the way that you're going to depend on me to help you as a man what makes that relationship different from just a platonic friendship because I have the option of fucking if I decide to right I was just about to say I'm gonna put the I'm never gonna allow you to I'm cool with you know not fucking but can't fucking that's not that's different
Starting point is 00:17:38 that's different we don't ever have to have sex but you're not gonna put me in a position where you tell me I could never have no right who you got on your prize man that's what I'm trying to see man I'm trying to hear my prize place together right now, man. I take Devin Booker. Man, you know he's going to put something up. You know, I got a ride with my boy at Jive, man. You know, he, he
Starting point is 00:17:59 never disappoints. Now, I'll be betting on all kind of stuff, like the three-pointed nade, the rebounds. Oh, I get on the rebound. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're seven-foot, boy, you better pull in something. I can't believe people don't know about this, man. They're paying out, too. And they're giving you
Starting point is 00:18:15 up to $100 matching. That's how I got started. Yeah. So you put 100, they gave you 100, and you had 200. Where are you at now? How much you won? I can't talk about that. For tax purposes? No, because I don't want nobody asking me nothing.
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Starting point is 00:18:43 Right. Yeah. So you can bet on individual players, all their stats, whatever you know, the most about that's where you're gonna get the bread there bruh now they really didn't took it to a whole other level though because it's like right there look this is where i'm at with it oh yeah you in there i flipped it a hundred dollars a hundred times you in there what's the lowest you can bet let's see if you're doing that you probably shouldn't be doing it
Starting point is 00:19:04 if you got if you got to go to the dollar you can win three don't do it if it's your last dollar but i mean what you're gonna do with that dollar anyway trying to win that three million. Yeah, I ain't know about that. Yeah, you can go up to however much you can stand on prize picks. I'm on that now. Yeah. What you doing? Get on now. Hey, make sure you go hit the website, Prize Picks, and use the promo code 85 South. One of the coldest apps out. One of the dopest, like you could bet in game, first half, second half, rebrow, points, assist, tripping falls, how many times the hot dog man going to come through? And it ain't just sports you can bet on call the duty they got uh fiefel race car driving but now we're back
Starting point is 00:19:53 naming sports with the soccer you can bet on comedians who can make you laugh no we got to be in it we got to have some good head eyes we got to be favorite you can bet on mama tennis but i'm trying to learn a little i you know i'm on the hockey too real bad i'm still rocking with the ducks and nobody rocking with my boys at the hires the mighty ducks yeah ain't no other ducks Oh, with the Oregon, but that's college. It's all good, bro. I'm about to see what I can pull off. Look, I'm really on prize picks right now.
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Starting point is 00:24:48 Like, if I grab your ass and you move, I don't even like you no more. I won't say that. I will. I will. Like, if I hug you and you give me like a sad hug, I'm like, whoa, this is not what I thought it was. Because they didn't got a man now. Yeah, I mean, that's cool. But the thing is, like, if somebody, I'm not going to, like, me and you are partners.
Starting point is 00:25:11 If we out, so you got a man and all that. But if I'm somewhere and me and you are having a good time, we partying, we're having a good time. I met your house. We're kicking it with you. I don't want nobody feeling like, what the fuck is she doing with her? Whatever the fuck I want to do.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Like, you don't have the ability to be able to tell me what I can and cannot do with anybody, nor will I allow you to put yourself in a mental space where you think you have that authority over me. I'm not going to allow that to even happen. You need to write a book, but it needs to be a workbook. Yeah, I know. It needs to have spaces where people can fill in.
Starting point is 00:25:42 That's a good idea. It's just different people want different shit. Yeah. Like, you want that. And some people don't. Want to be able to drive a car after they give it away. Like, some niggas really like that there's, like, one person. It's like they like the simplicity.
Starting point is 00:25:57 Yeah, I agree. Salute to them niggas. You know, so there's that. You know what I mean? And vice versa. And then there's people that just, you know, that are fluid. They want a full range of freedom. And that's the thing, America is the only, one of the only places where you have that mentality.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Because if you go other places in the world, the shit that we do is, like, what do you mean? You only have one woman. You're a poor. What's wrong? You're ugly? Nobody likes you. You don't have one woman.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Then they're going to offer you some shit to eat. I tell you, mushrooms. Where we at, though? Where we're at? Is it that time? I think so. Let me hear that just a little bit, Jayo. What's that?
Starting point is 00:26:42 Sound like some shit your grandfather get put out too. Your grandmother's just sick of your shit. It's the middle of the day. About 1.32 o'clock in the afternoon, the mail ain't even came yet. All Johnny shit on the porch. And you better not fuck with it. Yeah. You can pull up on your bike. You're riding your bike.
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Starting point is 00:27:34 I got my motherfucking player partner all the way from Goddamn Whoville, Chico B. All right, all right, we're in here. I don't even think I did it. I thought you was about to announce. No, bro, fuck that. Fuck that. I had to announce you, brother. They be asked, because every episode you're not on,
Starting point is 00:27:52 they try to make it seem like we just then cut you out the old rotation. Well, goddamn, we're a chico with. The nigger didn't fill out with him again. No, yeah, I don't understand why they said, do you think you catch you like, this nigga only show up for niggas. He wants to meet in person.
Starting point is 00:28:06 Like, what? I don't live in Atlanta. Like, that's the only reason. Like, that's the only reason. If I lived in Atlanta and then I said, I don't live in Atlanta. Nigger was like, well, nigga, get a place there then, niggas, you waiting on, nigga.
Starting point is 00:28:18 I'm like, all right, you at least an agent, nigga, find me one. God damn. I wanted to introduce you first because we got a very special guest in the trap house with us today. Yes. You know, it's not often that we get ladies of this caliber.
Starting point is 00:28:32 I'm very nervous. Stature. Of this stature. I'm very nervous. Of this magnitude, of this character. We really have one with us today. us today, bro. I'm talking about a ghetto lecture. All the way.
Starting point is 00:28:44 No, that's the name of the tour. Bray, I've been watching this girl since goddamn, my brother and me. Me too. Since goddamn coping a half. Yeah. Since Amanda Deva was the VJ. Wow. Hell yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:59 Wow. We can do this all day, man. She's smart. She's funny. She's black. That's a major one right there. She'd be on line going out in on them folks. All the way.
Starting point is 00:29:10 If you ain't never seen her, come out the side of the view with the camera. Come on, man. Come on, man. I don't like you. Very opinionated, strong, smart, independent. Cold as a motherfucker on a trampoline. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Real hip hop head. Yes. All that, what, you could say a lot of great things, but none other than. Amanda Seale. Come on, man. Make some noise for it. The screen is among us.
Starting point is 00:29:39 What's up y'all? Welcome to our trap house. It's very nice in the trap. Make yourself at home. I mean, I'm sure you wouldn't live in no shit like this, but you know, it's... Oh, I've done my time. Really? Yes.
Starting point is 00:29:54 I lived in a basement in Brooklyn. Oh, okay. Really? Yes. I lived in a basement in Brooklyn for a summer. When you walked in, you had to go through the kitchenette. You know, when it's a net on the end of it. That means, it's little.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Mm-hmm. So you have to go through the kitchenette to get to the bedroom. But at night, you didn't turn on the lights because it was going to come alive. Oh, yeah, it should be moving. It would be floor is lava. So you would run through the kitchenette and jump on the carpet, you know, and then, you know, you just kind of turn on the light to see what's going to greet you. Sometime, one time there was slugs crawling up the wall that was greet.
Starting point is 00:30:32 Like more than one? Yeah, you're living in Candyman apartment. I did. It was the kind of place where I had to make a decision. in the middle of the night, if I had to get up to piss, I had to make a decision. Like, am I going to do this at the threat of seeing some type of critter shit?
Starting point is 00:30:47 Like, is there something that's going to crawl out the toilet and crawl into me? Like, I did. You got to put your shoes on and go to the bathroom. Yes, I did my time. I did my time. Like, was that by choice or by circumstance? I mean, I could have gone home to Orlando to my mama house,
Starting point is 00:31:05 but it was like, no, I'm going to be in New York. So. Circumstance. Circumstance. And my choice. Choice. You know, but I, you know, I stayed in New York that summer and I thugged it out. And, you know, I was working at a restaurant like on the Upper East Side and I would come home to Brooklyn at like 2 a.m. in the morning.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And my man would come and meet me because I told him that when I was coming to Brooklyn, niggas would be like yelling out gang shit to me when I was walking from the train. And I was like, I feel like I might get junk. Are you serious? Like, niggas just yelling at random gang shit? Yes. At women, at women, niggas? What the fuck she's supposed to say? I'm interested in that, can I get a little more information?
Starting point is 00:31:50 What the fuck is wrong with you niggas? This must have been the gangs. Bro, I'm so sick of these niggins in these gangs. Everybody not playing, my niggins. Leave regular people alone. Like, God, damn. I was in Harlem. When I lived in Harlem, I remember I had a red coat.
Starting point is 00:32:06 I had a red coat and they came up to me and was like, What's up? What's up? Red? What's up? Red? And I was like, I'm good. I'm good. And he was like, oh, for real? Would that red be bout? And I was like, my nigga, how we go from you hollin to you? What is it? Shit.
Starting point is 00:32:22 Set tripping. Yeah, that's shit. Fuck, set tripping. He was threatening you. How do we do that? Tell me how you got your career started because that shit go back to childhood. I got my career started because I grew up in Orlando. Well, I was born in L.A. I lived there until I was eight. I moved to Orlando when I was eight. And like a few months after moving to Orlando, my mom woke me up one morning and was like, hey, I saw an audition in the newspaper for Disney. Do you want to go?
Starting point is 00:32:53 And I was like, you just want to go for you. I honestly don't know where I even got. You said that to your mom when you was eight years. I don't even know where I got that from. But I told her that. And she was like, shut up. Let's go. So we went to the audition, and it was like 1,500 kids, and we had to do Disney choreography, like, T-T-T-T-T-T-T-T. And then I got a call back. And so... You were already a dancer at this point, though, right? I mean, I was taking dance classes, you know?
Starting point is 00:33:22 But I was eight. Like, I wasn't... I mean, these kids on Instagram are dancers at eight. You know, they're doing whole competitions and shit. I wasn't doing none of that. Yeah. But I ended up getting it. getting it and I was the only black kid and so that was the other thing that was the first time
Starting point is 00:33:36 I experienced racism. Shout out to that affirmative action. Well they let me know that every day. Every day of that show they were like you know you're only here because you're black. I was like that's fine with me. Fine with me. I'll take some jobs now just because I'm black. I swear to God or what. So that was the beginning and then you know my mom started asking around and shit and then I auditioned for cop and a half and Whatever happened to that little boy? You know, he was following me on the Instagram. And I had posted something from Cop and a Half,
Starting point is 00:34:12 and people were saying in the comments that they love the movie and everything. And he was responding to every single comment. He just got a little excessive. I'm sure you blocked him. So then... You're blocked as long as far, Amanda. You get you about it. You get you about it is.
Starting point is 00:34:31 It is. It is. I don't just remove follower. I'm gonna block you. I'm a block you. Cause I don't really like that. Because I feel like if I didn't block you, you're still in my aura. Like you're still in my space.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Like the idea of being able to block people like was incredible to me because you can't really do it in real life. So like the fact that you can do it is like I can really just, that's done. You're done. You're out of here. What brings you to a point of blocking someone because I know you and I have had plenty of dialogue. plenty of dialogue where we disagree or you disagree with something that you said to me. Yeah, y'all ain't disagree for real. You didn't get blocked. I mean, we've had... I blocked you, right? Of course. I've been blocked.
Starting point is 00:35:10 You've never blocked me, so I guess we didn't disagree that bad. No, it's not that. I remember, I'll give you an example of one that we had a dialogue about something about... It's a love block. It ain't like a fuck you block. Yeah, right. I see Amanda in his love. She know I'm blocked. We were having a conversation about something that we did on the show that you disagreed with. And we had a long... conversation about it. So how do you find the balance of, you know, being able to have dialogue where you might not agree versus fuck your nigger, you're out of here. What's the, what's the, is there a point? Hey, what's up? She met Carlos Miller. And you know I kicked off my own tour because at the end of the day, I got to be on tour and I want to go back to one of my favorite cities in the world. New Orleans,
Starting point is 00:35:52 what's happening, baby? Tell me, she never get mad at your side bitch because she asked you to eat her pussy. Man, I'm in a relationship. You think I'd disrespect my lady out here just eating pussy like this? Come on, man. March 24th, I will be at the Orpheum Theater. Tell everybody I need to hold boot there. Boot up! And bring my little boo from across the way too.
Starting point is 00:36:21 And all the people in Mississippi who live down south are gonna dry down there. You know how we're doing. Act like it's my birthday. March 24th, we're in New Orleans. We're in New Orleans with it. Bring me some beads and show me some tithes. Definitely show me some tits. Even if you don't bring the beads.
Starting point is 00:36:37 Alright, I'm sorry. I'm gonna try to be a better person. First of all, you are an intellectual. Like, you will have the conversation. Right. And you will keep it at a conversation. So it's not, you don't go out of character. You've never gone out of character with me
Starting point is 00:36:52 and I've never gone out of character with you. It's just a conversation. And I think at the end of the day, you're genuinely listening. Like, you're not just like, just like responding so that you get your shit off you're like reading what I'm saying and then actually respond to what I'm saying and vice versa at the end of the day you know you're just not a fuckn-n-n-nigger that's really what it is and in the past you've had a fucknick a moment oh well fuck it then but that's just really
Starting point is 00:37:14 been based on you being like I don't want to have a conversation hmm I ain't big on conversation I'll just say my shit and leave I don't give a fuck what you say after that you say whatever fuck you want to sometimes I go back and be like I just type some shit, decoded, fucking. That's why I don't give a fuck about social media. Most of my real friends ain't even on that, motherfucker. I get on that bitch and say whatever I want to. I blocked my real friends from social media for a time
Starting point is 00:37:44 because I went through some shit publicly that they did not, well, when I got escorted out of a party that I was about. Let's talk about it. I mean, you should have called us. We would have goddamn came out there and kicked it with you. I don't mean, at this point, people have their version of the story that they want to believe. And so it's like it defeats the purpose of me even talking about the truth because they don't want to hear the truth. But at the end of the day, my friends saw the shit going down publicly and did not say nothing to me because when I kid them after like, you see the shit go.
Starting point is 00:38:20 Why you haven't I heard from me? They're like, oh, I guess because I was watching it on your on your live. Yeah, that I felt like I was. talking to you because I saw it on Instagram and I was like oh well then I know we're going to have to block we have to cut this because you didn't talk to me it was a one-sided situation how did y'all work that out how did y'all work that out because you went back to work after that uh how do we work that because I'm really mature that's how we worked it out I'm really mature and at the end of the day I understand professional dynamics and
Starting point is 00:38:58 And when you work at a place where you are not the boss, you need to carry yourself a certain way and you need to address things a certain way. And so, well, how do you, how do you, how have you, because you have, you have been given the, you have been given the, yeah, we, we definitely know, this nigga, no. I know, you have been given the stigma. I've seen you address this a couple times, but like a lot of, I think this is a, a good perspective for us all black women to have like you've been given don't never say all black women that's true for real for i would say all because a lot of them get this stigma put on in there hard to work with or difficult to work with i don't even know where that started i literally i don't know like i feel like somebody started that shit that never even work with me like i don't know where
Starting point is 00:39:47 that started from well how do you how did you get to the point of addressing it like if you don't If you don't know where it started, did it get to a point where it started to affect you in real life? Not in my workplace. No, I've never had that be a conversation in my workplace. I've only had that be a conversation on the Internet. Like, I ain't never been at a job where they're like, you know, you're difficult to work with. Let's talk about it. I have.
Starting point is 00:40:15 Like, I've never had that situation. I've never had that at Insecure. You know, at the real, my issue was y'all, y'all are difficult to work. with. You know, it wasn't vice versa. And, you know, I think for the most part, at this point, I'm a, gee, like, I'm a veteran. I've been in this game long enough to where I work with the people that I like. And I think that once you get to a point where you've established that, it makes life a lot easier. But also, like, I'm an efficient worker. So I think most people fuck with me because I'm going to make sure to shoot ends early. Like, that's going to happen.
Starting point is 00:40:50 If it's me at the helm, I'm going to read the shit at this prompter and we're going to get out of this bitch early and everybody likes that. Well, in that case, thank y'all for coming to that 85-south show. Nah, but, you know, I always say, because, you know, my interaction with you. Did you enjoy your time on the real? Did I enjoy my time on the real? Um, I mean, I enjoyed some of it. I think that was a real, like, weird time.
Starting point is 00:41:11 Just for me in general, like, I just wasn't, I was going, like, 2019 was, like, a really, like, fucked up, but, like, also dope year, like, simultaneously, and that, I don't think I've ever experienced, like, like that, like career-wise, it was, like, extremely good, but then, like, because I was more visible, like, the shit that wasn't good was, like, more... Magnified. Yeah, it was magnified. And so I just didn't have, like, the thick skin or the real, like, confidence to really, like,
Starting point is 00:41:43 or support, really, to deal with it. And so by the time I got to the reel, I feel like when I was on the reel, it was kind of like... It was what I thought was going to be a solution. And I thought it was going to be like, okay, I get to go over to this place, and it's going to be a different energy, and I'm going to get to talk about things. And, you know, because it's a new vibe, but it didn't change the fact that, like, I just had internal shit that wasn't, like, fully resolved. And so because of the toxicity of that place, like, it exacerbated the internal shit. And then I had a nervous breakdown. I exasperated at work one time.
Starting point is 00:42:21 I'm just fucking with you. Hey, welcome back 1085. Sound show. Legendary one in here with us. Did you think that, or did you know, that Insecure was going to have the cultural impact that I had when you first got on that?
Starting point is 00:42:36 And shout out to all the people who thought you was pregnant, for real. For real. I was also pregnant on that show for two and a half years. I was a long time wearing that shit. I think everybody did. Like, I think, you know,
Starting point is 00:42:49 there was just kind of a, a ground swell, that Issa had already built, you know, with awkward black girl. So she had kind of put herself in pocket already. And HBO at that point understood what she wanted to do. So they were finally, you know, getting behind her with that. And so I think when you have those two things, it sets you up for a win. So I knew that it was going to be something dope also because there wasn't any, like, shit like that at the time.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Like, there wasn't a girlfriend, there wasn't a living single. Like, there wasn't any, like, women, you know, fucking and living life type show for that generation. So, yeah, I knew. I like, she do her sex scenes with her brown. I feel like she do that shit in real life. It's real. That's some shit to notice right there, girl, isn't it? What?
Starting point is 00:43:47 Yeah, you know what I mean? She never said that to tennis me out. You won't watch the show? He's a real. She's the first black woman let a fat dude hit it on TV. Word. Think about it.
Starting point is 00:44:00 She let the fat dude hit it. No, no, that ain't true. Who? Was it waiting to exhale? Now, that was in the... That was 20 fucking years ago. But you said on TV, but still... It's on TV.
Starting point is 00:44:13 Oh, well, I mean, you're right. Yeah, that's different. It's a film. You might be right. Fat dudes got their own TV show and don't get a sex scene. This is absolutely true. You're absolutely right, all the way.
Starting point is 00:44:25 That's a good point. You didn't get some dope-ass jobs. That's why when people be like, you're hard to work with, I'm like, if I'm so hard to fucking work with, how do I keep getting good jobs? You heard that little rapper dude feelings, though. I know. What's that?
Starting point is 00:44:39 What's this rapper that you... DDG? D-D-G. That's a little woo-wop uncle, ain't it? Little woo-wop. You don't know little woo-wop. Don't talk to me, I'll murder you. You know.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Oh, you're talking about I want to kill mine, y'all. Yeah. Got you. Yeah, got you. Now, what did you say? She told that girl to break up with him? That made you make the comment that you made. See?
Starting point is 00:45:08 He made a joke. And then I made a joke. And they took my joke seriously, but didn't take his joke seriously. See, that's the curse of being a comedian. You can't just be using jokes on regular people. What was his joke? He started with a joke. His joke was...
Starting point is 00:45:23 It's cool when they do it. His joke was that he was being interviewed and they asked him about his girlfriend, Halley Bailey's experience with racism, you know, being the black mermaid. And he was like, I thought racism was over. I thought Martin Luther King took care of that. The nigga made racism sound like a movie.
Starting point is 00:45:47 That shit still on. Or a video game, I thought Model of the King beat that game, dude. He did not. He didn't. No, he did not. He said that. And then I made a video where I was like, oh, man. And I was, like, chomping my gum real hard.
Starting point is 00:46:04 I was being completely unlike myself, which is an indicator that it's a joke. And I said, you're going to have to break up with him. You got to break up with him. And, like. That shit went crazy. That shit went. I would, by the way, I was in Toronto doing shows. I, like, I'd, like, post that video and went on stage.
Starting point is 00:46:26 I don't get to my phone. I was like, what's going on in my phone? And that was all kinds of, you bitter bitch! That's why you still single bitch? But this is what happens. You know, they're going to say all of that, and then they'll go look at my page and then, like, send me, and then come back like, okay, you got a man, but he don't love you, bitch.
Starting point is 00:46:44 Yeah, they're going to find something. It don't matter what it is. There's no need to even address it because they're going to find. That's why you need to get a dog. I'm like, I have a dog. Fuck your dog, bitch. Exactly. So there's all that.
Starting point is 00:46:56 I don't think social media get to see like a certain side of you. They don't get to see the side of you that we know. How do you beat the angry black woman label? I don't need to beat the, I am an angry black woman. Most black women are angry. About what? What's your I'm mad about? We mad about how they treat black man.
Starting point is 00:47:15 We mad about, yes, we are mad about that. I did not know we made. The list of shit, you all gave a fuck about. You do know that, because we are always in the street for y'all. Black women give a fuck about her. She goes. It's back on, niggins. All right, man, I've been to do that.
Starting point is 00:47:30 It's back on. We are always in the street for y'all. Every time. We are always in the street for our brothers. And, I mean, people always say, oh, I mean, it's stills hate black men. I'm like, okay, whatever. But that's bullshit. The truth is...
Starting point is 00:47:41 I told them to say that after you block me. Well, you always say that, you know I'm not mean. I started that. I'm sorry. Since we let shit go, I put that in the street. Watch this. Watch this, goddamn, man. But I don't know. I mean, I think it's not even that if people followed me on social media, they would see a range. But if you only see me on, like, blog site, like gossip blogs,
Starting point is 00:48:10 like they're only going to post me when I'm saying something controversial. And when I say controversial things, I say them loudly. You know, I usually use. I want to do a social experiment. What you want to do? I want to just... One day I want you to just agree with some shit that they ain't going to even think you're going to agree with. Like a Trump supporter.
Starting point is 00:48:26 Not even, not. No, that's too far. That's too far. Nah, I mean, we're going to go there. Let's go. Let's do a real social experiment. Like, you know, I'm going to still get the same shit. It's just like when you, you know, was not fucking with a relationship
Starting point is 00:48:39 and then you tried to fuck with it, you got the same results. Like, if you go extreme, to extreme, you see how that's... Yeah, you got to be some subtle shit. Subtle like what, though? Like what? Like what how subtle could you get like she's that's a thing about you like you have you have Yeah, you have you have you always make sure that you like you said you front line when it's anything That is you know Detrimental to the the black people to black causes to whatever cause you believe in whenever it's something that's opposite of that
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Starting point is 00:53:34 He's a genius. I see why you like him. Well, why would I do that? Just the fuck with them people. I don't want to do shit on the internet just to see what the fuck going to happen sometime. But you know what happens on the internet? When you do shit like that, nothing happens. Like there's no...
Starting point is 00:53:53 There's no response. It doesn't catch. It doesn't catch. You know, like when you are actually just chill or you agree with some shit, people don't want to hear you agree with some shit. That's right. People get riled up because you don't agree. or because you saying some shit. Actually, you know, even when I say some shit
Starting point is 00:54:14 that I feel like is 100% just a legit statement. I remember, I did a video where I was talking about how a lady, I was in a fitting, and I was talking about my man at the time, and I was like, you know, he just fucking up. And she was like, that's why you need to get you a white man. And I was like, no, I just need the nigga that I'm with
Starting point is 00:54:37 to get on a. a good foot and these white boys ain't no better like why are you why would you act like that so i made a video talk about that this turned into Amanda seals feels like she can tell black women who they should be dating and needs to stop trying to dictate other women's lives wow people made YouTube videos about this like oh it's one day you got a whole channel dedicated to you he just responding to everything you say on social media
Starting point is 00:55:15 he'll play you for like five seconds then he'll like see that's exactly what I'm talking about black men pay attention listen to the bird she's a lot of action words notice how she talks with her hands yeah all the way see that's what's wrong with black women right there they love to talk with they hate I don't get this shit I have a real fan
Starting point is 00:55:37 That's a fan For me and this nigga We watch a lot of media I send him a lot of shit Back and forth bro It's like Sometimes we hear some shit So ridiculous
Starting point is 00:55:45 I don't even know If I'm black Especially like with these Relationship podcasts and shit They don't I don't want them to I definitely do not want these people to know me Yeah I want them to think
Starting point is 00:55:56 Exactly what it is they think I'm good right here in this spot See that's my problem I'm a cancer So I actually do be caring Like, people will be like, oh, I love that you don't give a fuck. I'm like, where did you get the idea that I don't give a fuck? Oh, because I'm, like, verbose about my opinion.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Yeah, but I still absolutely care when, like, a community that I love misinterprets me or, like, tries to call me. Like, being called an op is, like, hell. First of all, I don't even know where op applications are. Like, I don't know where you pick up the op status. People are, like, you're getting paid. And I'm like, who is getting paid? And how much are they getting paid?
Starting point is 00:56:34 because I've never heard of anyone actually getting paid except for one person, and I don't even speak their name. I know that person you're talking about. Yeah. They got paid, though. They got paid. But it's public. But it's publicly known.
Starting point is 00:56:45 They fucked it up, though. Yeah. Well, let me ask you this. Have you ever been wrong on something that you went? After the fact. After the fact. Have you ever been, you know, took a stance on something and then turned and said, you know what?
Starting point is 00:57:00 That wasn't it. I'm wrong. I was wrong. Have you changed your mind about anything I'm asking? As of, like, well, first of all, let me just say. I don't just say shit flippantly. Right, of course. Because that's the other thing.
Starting point is 00:57:14 I think people really be thinking I'm talking on my neck because I got a bonnet on or because I don't have makeup on. But it's not. Like, that's a fully formed thought. That's what makes the shit believable, though. If you feel strong enough to jump out there with no makeup and a bonnet. I don't think it's that I was wrong on certain things, but I think there's been times where I wasn't sure.
Starting point is 00:57:34 And so I didn't speak on it, and I think I could have maybe spoke sooner. Okay. You feel me? And then, you know, there's times where I feel like I feel like I got to say something because everybody's saying something. And so I cut that shit out, though. I'm not doing that no more. Like, at the end of the day...
Starting point is 00:57:56 Just because it's something to be spoken on. Because people will be, like, pressuring me. People will be like, bitch, you better to say something. What you think about Kanye? What do you think about this? So what you think about that? Like, how do you decipher? Like, does it have to be something
Starting point is 00:58:07 that you're really passionate about? Or, playing devil's advocate, you've put yourself in a position where you speak for so many people when they come to you and say, hey, we need you to, we want to hear what you think. How do you turn them away and say, nah, not this time?
Starting point is 00:58:25 I just say, if I don't got nothing to add, I ain't going to say shit. If I'm going to say the same thing everybody else is saying, Why do I need to say anything? People want to hear it in your voice. Sometimes it just feels like I'm being redundant. So I, you know, if I will...
Starting point is 00:58:42 See, they want to hear you say that type of shit. But I'm a philosopher. I do say this. I'm saying they want to hear that shit like redundant. Niggily be like, hell, yeah. I knew she was going to say one of college. Yeah, that was intelligent. She went to school, bro.
Starting point is 00:58:57 What she said that she's more, bro? That just needs to repeat herself, bro. Oh, redundant. Redundity. You know what I mean? I would have said repetitive, but I ain't even think redundant. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:08 So you gotta remember sometimes when you don't want to react, you got to remember what Rick Ross said. Don't never forget about a little brother now. I mean, honestly, I don't even be knowing that little brother them is even paying attention anymore. Yeah, they fuck with you. Little brother them there too.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Little brother them fuck with you. Because sometimes... Even if they disagree, they still, you might be their favorite motherfucker to disagree with. Right. You know what I mean? Just, and that, you know, that right there gives people another option, another level of thought, you know, because if you, you know, sometimes, like you said, we watch a lot of media. Sometimes I'll just all day don't watch nothing but Fox News.
Starting point is 00:59:47 Just to see what the fuck you disagreeing with. Just to see what the other side is saying and thinking. But, I mean, but it's like your, my ability to be able to do that is just so I won't be shocked when I see. this in the real world because these are people they're speaking for a demographic of people that we are amongst so I think that you shorten yourself by not allowing yourself to have that perspective and that's what you provide for a lot of people even if they disagree with you they need to hear it coming from you because you speak a language that they understand versus some people that you know well I will say this there's times where I feel like there's things being spoken on
Starting point is 01:00:26 by folks that may have the heart but not the articulation to like articulation is not the word but They may have the heart, but not necessarily, not necessarily the, the, the capabilities to really get what they're feeling out through their words, you know? And so then it ends up getting fucked up, and then it ends up getting used against them, and it ends up getting discombobulated and towards it. Is this about me? You know? Is it? Is this my life? Sometimes.
Starting point is 01:00:59 But you just don't give a fuck the correctness. That's all the difference. I was born like that. You don't mean no harm by none of the shit you say, but you're going to say what you say. And there's a place for that too, but I think people specifically come to us for those type of things.
Starting point is 01:01:13 And that's what you have that same. Yeah, you know how to dress that shit up. Huh? You know how to dress that. I remember telling you, you were smart, and you were like, I don't know. You like literally knock me down. I don't want these.
Starting point is 01:01:23 I've got an image to uphold. You are smart, Carlos. Oh, this nigga's brilliant. And he was like, shut the fuck. And he was like, I. They lied it. Pussy, we need and alcohol.
Starting point is 01:01:35 I fuck school. I'll never forget it. Drive vans, automatic weapons. This nigga is brilliant, nigga. I'm talking about, for real. That was like 0-6-07. Brilliant. That's how far back that was.
Starting point is 01:01:47 I will never forget it. The text is probably still in my phone because I'm a text hoarder. And I said, it's probably in a T-Mobile side of it. Side note. Why? Why do you do that? Why are you a text hoarder? I think I, I mean, it's a transcript.
Starting point is 01:01:59 I love being able to go. I do love seeing progress. I love being able to go back to things. And I really, like, will, like, remember something and be like, oh, shit, you know what? That was, you know what? I think Chico had said that to me. And then I can, like, go back to the transcript.
Starting point is 01:02:15 And just in case the nigga ever tried you on some shit, like, ha ha. Yes. I mean, I had a situation like that recently, and it actually allowed. It made the argument, not an argument. Because I had the transcript. So there was no, he said, it was my homegirl.
Starting point is 01:02:27 But it was no, she say, she say. It was like, see it right. And it was like, oh damn, all right, all right, all right. And now we was on the same page. But I want to state the fact that you told me, well, I mean, ain't nobody going to sell me a bucket with a hole in it. That was your exact words. You're like, I'm not stupid. Ain't anybody going to sell me a bucket with a hole in it, but I ain't going to say I'm smart.
Starting point is 01:02:48 And I never understood why you didn't want to be given that title. Is it too much pressure? No. It's not. It's just that I don't even know how to I don't even know just trust me on this one I'm fair trust me on this one but I know you smart well if they but I'm saying smart just like y'all know that I love black man right so you know yeah exactly that's the same shit that's funny and black like weird with brand now what was the inception of that it's like that's her 85 song I know but what I've done and it's very very fun you know I mean
Starting point is 01:03:30 Like, you got mad at me for one of my answers. What was the last question you asked? If you could take two black people, what was the... I can't remember what it were. Well, I don't know. It was like if you could... Another time in 2019. Yeah, it was like something about if you could take two black people something.
Starting point is 01:03:45 And I said, O.J. Simpson was one of my answers. And you got mad at me. Because I said O.J. Yeah, he was like, no, we're not fucking no. Not OJ. I'm like, why not? That nigger is essential. He don't even consider himself black.
Starting point is 01:03:58 It doesn't matter. That's the reason why you need that. In certain situations, OJ had to be the first. I'm not black, I'm OJ. That's what I'm, and you gotta think like that. Like being a nigger, sometimes you have to be a nigger. Like, sometimes you have to be black. Sometimes you gotta be OJ.
Starting point is 01:04:17 When have you ever had to be Carlos and not a nigger? When have I ever just had to be- I can tell you a few times. See, that's what I'm saying. I don't have to be, I had to be a nigger. I couldn't be nothing else but a nigger in this situation. And that's the thing, in this situation with us, we'd have been around each other at every type of situation.
Starting point is 01:04:37 So I've seen him be Carlos, I've seen him be a digger, I've seen him be black, he'd see me be Chico, he'd see me be a digger, he's seen me, we've all been putting these situations to know, to be comfortable with anything was to happen, you're cool with knowing that this person is beside you. And I think that's what a lot of people see. Because if you just go out here and just try to be black,
Starting point is 01:05:00 You're gonna get take advantage of oh without question when they push your blackness you have to be a nigger Absolutely yes do not keep the nigger you Let me tell you as a woman when they push your womanhood you have to be a nigga right That's a whole and then you turn into Queen Latifahs because I feel like who you call it a bitch No I feel like any nigger or a bitch gonna just like try Queen Latifah Like tiger had tried me at a B E T awards and he would sound like some shit he'll do He would not move out of my seat. And I was in a beautiful tangerine dress.
Starting point is 01:05:36 I would have spit that nigger lyrics at him. I wouldn't shake that nigger hand with a broke hand. Shout out to my nigga, brother. That's my daughter. No, I had to, like, really dig in my nigger bag and was like, move the fuck out my goddamn seat before this shit turns up into something else. And the security guard was like, come on, bro, let's just, let's just move. But like, I don't want to have to.
Starting point is 01:05:59 Do you think that people don't be? Nobody wants to have to do that. That's our internal struggle. That's our internal struggle. And because you carry yourself that the way that you do that, people think that you don't possess that. Because that's not something that you put out into the public. Do you think that that's taking advantage of on your, or have you had that be something that people try to take advantage of until you show like, hey, motherfucker. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 01:06:20 I ain't that type of thing. She wrote a song about it. I literally wrote a song about it. Yeah. Yes. I've definitely, yeah. I mean, I've had that in work. that in work settings, where it's like, oh, you really, why are you trying, like, why are you
Starting point is 01:06:34 trying me to this point? I'm keeping things professional and above board, because that's what we should be doing, but you really pushing me to a place where now I have to demonstrate that I will not be pushed to that, I will not be pushed past that. And then you have to show that, And then everyone's like, oh, okay, now we understand. Now we understand. And that's no fun. That aggressive email. Yes.
Starting point is 01:07:03 So you got to per my previous email, but with a couple motherfuckers in it. Yeah. And, you know, but who wanted to do that? I feel like, see, that's what I'm saying. Like, it's black people. We should have exclusive rights to do shit like that. Like the company sent out an email, right? And then, like, they send it to you.
Starting point is 01:07:22 And then they let you retype it for the black employees. attention all niggas go to the group chat i can't even email it in this one right go to the back page you're gonna find out of white people are sneak in there y'all ain't fin to believe what these motherfuckers doing white people going to sneak in there man they gonna fuck it up so does you go in there to heat your lunch up so uh how's you guys feel about that little situation that happened i'm fucking with you and what you said you know what I mean this is gonna make but this the fucked up part is they got they They don't separate shit.
Starting point is 01:07:59 They got their own separate shit. Oh, no, nigga, we don't even get, we don't live in America. We live in the United States. Yeah. They live in America. Yeah, exactly. That shit totally different. It's completely different all the way.
Starting point is 01:08:13 But we only, that's a long conversation. Yeah, back to smart funny and black because we got that. That's how. You want to get deep because I feel like you could articulate it and not be redundant. That's what I'm saying. Right. Yeah. Because I want to hear more about.
Starting point is 01:08:27 man white people live in America that means they can move freely throughout we live in the United States of America where we have to be subject to whatever we are subject to where we are wherever we're standing we're subject to that law in that area you know what the distinction is like on top of that it's the United States is the country yes America is the company There you go. White people are invested in the company of America. Right. We are employees in the country.
Starting point is 01:09:04 We're not employees. We are property. Yeah, we are. We are property. They're property. Yeah, because I was watching this shit, right? In Louisiana, still. Did you know?
Starting point is 01:09:16 No, check this out. I'm going to show you some shit. This is how crazy it is. They'd be dropping a little shit in other shit because they know we ain't going to watch the shit. So I'm watching this shit, right? Did you know that motherfucking one blue? bluefin tuna.
Starting point is 01:09:28 This is a motherfucking worth a million dollars. Yeah. Did you know they have to have a federal agent there before they could pull this shit out of the water? That I did not. Before they could pull the whole fucking fish out of the water, it has to be a fucking agent there to fucking what. I'm saying they can't even pull this shit all the way out of the water
Starting point is 01:09:49 until he get there. Because. That's the law. And guess who can't fucking. can get none. Nobody. Yeah. And they only give out about, you can only have, they only got a certain amount of motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:10:05 that they even let do this shit. Yeah, you have to have a license. And you can only catch a certain amount, and when you catch this bitch, it's gone. They're sending that shit to the people who buy and for. Exactly. But that's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:10:18 When you say the company, who makes those rules? Who makes those laws? Well, that's, I think that's the real thing that a lot of people are, are starting to understand and, you know, um, and question, you know, who is actually really running this place and who's actually really running the world? If it's a company, who own it? Whoever own the company is the motherfucker making.
Starting point is 01:10:42 And there's a very small number of people. Like, there's a very small number of people. But I think, you know, for some folks, I think they love like bringing shit up like that, but they're not really trying to figure out how to change it. You know, they just like knowing that they know. And I think for other folks, they don't want to know because they can't change it. And it's just like, if I can't change the shit, then why the fuck do I want to still carry that weight on me? Of knowing.
Starting point is 01:11:08 You can't change shit around here. This is not your shit can. I just had this conversation about living in D.C. You can't think that way. You can. Because in D.C. If enough people thought that way, we would not be. I come from the city of politics.
Starting point is 01:11:21 And when you get to see people who make the law. ignore that the people who need the most help and then you get tricked I'm gonna say trick but then you get coerced into being gung-ho about vote vote vote have to come up d nigger man that what we say you want to know what we say on the rest of this video go to that just in case you wonder what we're doing we are now showing you just how important having the 85 South Show app is because you was watching this show thinking oh they then finally put the shit back on on YouTube.
Starting point is 01:11:56 No. They was listening. We weren't. It's on the app. It's on the app. The rest of this, listen. The rest of the audio is on the app. You got to go get the app.
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Starting point is 01:12:38 It is on them. Put it on Roku. Don't say fuck nobody. No, I didn't say fuck them. I think we fuck with it. Oh, we do. My house full of Rokoo's. Oh.
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Starting point is 01:13:13 All of these people that say we should keep putting this on YouTube for free. What about the years of freeness that we've already provided upon you? We gave this away for free for years. Let's move together $85 a year. Why would you let somebody come investing the show and put it on another network and you're buying their subscription? You don't ask them why you're buying their shit. So don't ask us. We're putting it on the app.
Starting point is 01:13:38 Who's over the app? Nobody knows. Get the app. Yeah. We saw what you said in the comments. We saw it. You saw everybody. The good, the bad.
Starting point is 01:13:54 We got somebody read every fucking comment. And the ugly. So you know what? We're folding under this pressure. We hear you. We hear you. We're winning this. We'll just get the fuck on at you all way.
Starting point is 01:14:07 Just for an hour though. That's all you get is an hour. So don't you can't complain. We're the rest of that. I think they should get thirty-seven minutes. I don't see. We gotta hurry up. And we should put a whole bunch of ads in between, like long way and there, like five minutes.
Starting point is 01:14:20 Hey, how you doing? Uh, you, you. You. Slow motion. Slow it now. Waste their motherfucking time. Yeah. Let's just go ahead and make sure.
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Starting point is 01:15:13 That's on the app. You got a sports show, photographer show, documentary. Chico got a handwriting class that he teach. Nobody passed it. That's why the shit looked like this. But we're working on it, and you can see it on the app. They didn't even tell them about the tax course that we had uploaded on that. They don't even know that we got a whole show about Wall Street.
Starting point is 01:15:35 We can turn $5,000 on the app. Right. And we got the alternate end into the color purple up there. Oh, man. We got the raw dishes, all the uncut, all the bluepils. We got all that. It's on the app. So if you want to see some shit that you know they're trying to have from you.
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