The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Backwoods Backstage @ ONE Music Fest w/ Big Gipp

Episode Date: January 27, 2026

Karlous and the ladies of Pour Minds sit down with the Goodie Mobb's own Big Gipp!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:38 Guess who we got over here with us now? Come on, man. I was over here going crazy. Yeah. We didn't all the verses. They had the whole dungeon, man. Yeah. We got big gift.
Starting point is 00:02:51 We got Scat Wilde in here, man. How y'all doing? How you doing? Thank you all for you. for having us. Thank you for joining us. Yes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:59 I got to ask, I got to ask this first. You know, because I always wonder what would happen if they had the whole dungeon family performed. Yeah. In Atlanta, I wonder what, like, will we open up a portal to a third world? Yeah, what was that shit like to have a whole family on that, man? It was an out-of-body experience for me. I got to say it like that.
Starting point is 00:03:20 It was so amazing to see all my brothers on stage, all of them strong. Also to be on the stage with future at the same time. And this all to be about a tribute to Rico Wade, man. It was lovely. And to end it all off, this was the start for the long weekend to take us on into, what, L.A. for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for the Outcast being inducted in that one. Oh, that's amazing.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Congratulations. That's so dope. I wanted to ask you. So, you know, people throw the word legend around so much. Obviously, you are Atlanta legend. You're a legend in the music industry in general. How does it feel for people to use that word when I describe you at this point of your career? It's kind of, it's nostalgic because I feel so like alive again because I was able to start
Starting point is 00:04:12 and continue to do music the whole time. I hadn't laid music down. So, you know, like for me just now to just be relevant at the same time, being. on in a new genre with my cousin, Scott Whiteley, and him putting me on new records. I've been on the radio with him for now two years. Oh, wow. And back in the Chittling circuit where Goody Maher started, I'm back at all the old folk houses, in the field. I feel back at home again.
Starting point is 00:04:39 It's like soul food all over again. So right now I'm living on the high. You know, I swear my brothers are good. My kid performed here today, you know, keep science. So for me personally, I'm gone. man. Your daughter before? Amazing.
Starting point is 00:04:55 Yes, my daughter performed. I missed it. Damn. And y'all cousins, y'all real cousins are y'all like, that's my cousin? We're good, man.
Starting point is 00:05:02 Y'all real cousins. Okay. Y'all know black people, we love to say, that's my cousin. Look it up, look it up. Look it up. Rock Mike, Georgia. My mom from Rock Mike Georgia.
Starting point is 00:05:13 Okay. You're off from your boy, Dan, over there. Right by there. Oh, word? Yeah. It's right there. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:05:20 We're flying now. Yeah, yeah. Well, let me ask you this. We've been asking everybody, man. It's like, you know, Atlanta, when it comes to the black essence, it's like the mecca of the black asses. Right, right. So, for one music fest to be in Atlanta, man,
Starting point is 00:05:35 what they feel like as a Georgia native. Now we got us one. We got us a festival. Oh, yeah, I mean, like experience and, like being able to have an example to the ones coming behind it, like, it inspired them. Like, that's where Atlanta's so great. Like, you see yourself. It ain't too many places you're the majority, right?
Starting point is 00:05:52 You travel outside of Atlanta, man, you're the minority. everywhere but you can see everybody doing from doctor to artists the comedian company whatever you want to say winning though winning so it's just like for me it's big in the aspect like we can do it too we build it you know what I'm saying they're gonna come and they did it you know what I'm saying so it's been amazing just over weekend it's amazing it's amazing to watch this because I've only did this when I was in New York I was in L.A. I was in festivals like crazy overseas with Cilo like doing all those kind of festivals so to see a real actual festival come to Atlanta It's very, very amazing.
Starting point is 00:06:27 And to know the guys that actually put this together, Jay Carter, man, Motown, man, all the family. Man, this is amazing, man. Hey, man, we're in the black mecca, man. As long as we keep staying in the head and showing people how to do it, hey, man, we can't do nothing but keep going. Hey, man, Mr. Clark.
Starting point is 00:06:49 Now, hold on. Hey, we need to make this collab happen, too, that gift. You don't come over there. And put some verses on some of the good trail of rap music, too. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I'm going to get with Claude later. But this man, he'll be putting me on, and I just been watching everything. That man there, he got something special. That's Mr. Claude you that early.
Starting point is 00:07:15 See, this is exactly what I'm talking about. There's a lot of people backstage doing interviews, but ain't nobody trying to make no features happening. Hey, man. Take your career to the next level. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like something so.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Amen. This is the young bull, man. We support this Georgia boy, man. You know what somebody. Yeah. I'm talking about that auntie love. Man. She said she was outside.
Starting point is 00:07:39 I had to go find her. She's still outside so well. We're still looking for her. Where are you at big legs? I mean, hey, Carlo, man, like, Cud's came to me about a year two ago. Like, yo, come down to you. to the, come back down to the family thing, man.
Starting point is 00:07:56 You've been gone and, you know, they got a hundred acres down there, where I get there and I see all this new music. A hundred acres. And I'm like, what is this? He said, man, this is the other soul, man. This is the new stuff, what we're doing. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:10 Started listening, and he gave me this song, Auntie Love. Now, it took me a money to get my bird together because, you know, it was a new thing. I'm listening. I'm like, this blue, this Johnny Taylor. He's like, yeah, but this new stuff. And he put me on Auntie Love. I've been on the radio for two years straight.
Starting point is 00:08:29 I've been on the road with him all in the chint and circuit where Goody Mob started. And I just been loving life because it's like I'm starting all over again. Yeah. We got the Grammy consideration too on Auntie La. Oh, hold up. Oh, wow. Congratulations. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:08:45 We got the Grammy consideration. 8.03 and Mike, they got considerations too for Sutter of Soul. That's a first time. That's a big deal. That he is. See, we're not only going to bring some music festivals through here, give. We're going to bring us some Grammings and some Tonys. We're going to get on Good Morning America.
Starting point is 00:09:03 See, that's the beautiful part about Atlanta. I say it all the time. It is. I've been coming to Atlanta since 1980. Oh, I wasn't boring yet. My dad had the spot right next door to where I started my comedy career. It's just a small world like that. My father's had a little one bedroom on 10th Street.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Street. Wow. Right. I started my comedy career literally two doors down and twisted taco. Oh. At that little, at that little taco spot. Yeah. Wow. My dad had a little, you know, just a little, right before you get there, right? You walk down the steps, and it's just like a hallway, but all the farmers down in there. My father used to stay in there. Wow. Yeah, I started two those. Really old enough. Hell yeah. How you've been in Atlanta for a long? My best, man. Everybody pushing forward, man. That's what you said earlier. The great thing about being this motherfucker like you put that work in it gonna come back and see you yeah
Starting point is 00:09:56 and being Gip talked about it to his life one thing about Atlanta if you're trying oh yeah yeah yeah yeah like they'll give you a chance you gotta fuck your own chance up in Atlanta yeah everybody welcome
Starting point is 00:10:08 you can work every move in the book and everybody start with a question but if you disrespect we will make your head fly out of what a lot of folks that went home yeah but a lot of stars been made yeah and a lot of new family been made
Starting point is 00:10:21 and strong family. So, I mean, Atlanta's so special, man. It is. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This is your boy, Nav Green,
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Starting point is 00:11:02 Where did his phone next at? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro, it's crazy. Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan. But Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams. Hey, he should be in that conversation.
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Starting point is 00:11:31 and I'm looking at, you know, as soon as I sign this, I'm going to get a seven-figure check. I've told them I won't be working here in two weeks. From the underground clubs that shaped global music to the pastors and creatives who built a cultural empire, the Atlanta Ears podcast uncovers the stories behind one of the most influential cities in the world.
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Starting point is 00:13:16 Oh, my God. All the time. I love it. So I'm always like, hi. I try to butcher it up for kids, you know, so they're not confused. Yeah, but you're butching it up is basically like Doris Day. Right? No, I turn into Be Arthur.
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Starting point is 00:13:54 Audible Audio Pioneer Award. Explore the best selection of audiobooks, podcasts, and originals all in one easy app. Audible. There's more to imagine when you listen. Sign up for a free trial at audible.com. Like the Black Hollywood. I mean, I had been on the road
Starting point is 00:14:12 like a couple years before I, you know, doing my thing, working the Tennis Circuit. You know, I own in the mud with it. But, I mean, if you look at Suther's, like Suther's Soul, but you look at the Goody Moll's record, Soul Food, it's sold all through that, motherfucker. So it's like, it was a no-brainer because, like, it's not about leveraging it, right?
Starting point is 00:14:28 What I bring to the game is playing the line a little bit, if that makes sense, like urban blues, urban blues. So it had to be a specific artist that make it make sense. So we're like, because soul food, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's sold. You know what I'm saying? It was no-brainer. Alley hoop, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:14:45 He's done it. brought that shit straight to the crib. Right at home, man. I always tell the whole, the whole good immob every time I get a chance to get around them, but it's like even watching them start getting successful, they always made it feel like us and the fans
Starting point is 00:14:58 with them. Right, man, as opposed to holding that shit over. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You get what I'm saying? Organic, man. Yeah, you get what I'm saying? Like, the energy is different when it comes to certain shit.
Starting point is 00:15:08 Yeah, and the age group, like with Seller's Soul, like he was saying, like, a lot of people in that Seller's soul, they grew up with the good in mind. So it's age appropriate for a, or artists and a rapper to get on the record like this. And you don't like it when rappers get on Southern Soul. But like because there's certain artists that they grew up with, you know what I'm saying? It made sense.
Starting point is 00:15:24 And they're accepting it. Now, Gil, what do you feel like they're a young generation finding them hits, man? They're going back and they're listening to that catalog. It's great. And I love it so much because we just happen to own all our catalog. We never sold our music or did a publishing deal. So for me personally, it's been great. for me to watch something that was shunned in the beginning because people didn't understand us as clearly as outcast.
Starting point is 00:15:52 But now when you go through the pandemic and people understand what cell therapy finally means. So to watch something 30 years later turn into a hit just because people sitting in the house and trying to figure out what is this we living in? And cell therapy kept coming up. So to be the author or something like that and then to be living it right now. Like we actually live in cell therapy. We're going to have to make a decision. Are we getting the chip or we're going to have to live outside in the field. So it's almost there, everybody.
Starting point is 00:16:25 No more fishing for your fish, Gil. Go, let's go, go, this go. That's my daughter. Come on there, Carl. Carlos, this is my daughter. You think I don't know that? Hi. Hi.
Starting point is 00:16:41 I love the grill. I don't know. I love it. This gift, baby. girl right here. She born into the music, man. Yes. Does she ever think you'd be performing at a festival with your favorite girl on the other
Starting point is 00:16:56 stage? No, I started crying when I seen on stage. I ain't going to tell you no story. I was like, I never thought that we would be on the same stage. And for her to be here and doing her music, music that she wrote and she put together and didn't want no help from me or her mother. And I'm just like, wow, she got her own fans. and I'm just like a fan.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I'm getting to watch this journey. Now, I got to ask you, hopefully your parents are big in the music game. You ain't want no help you wanted to do it by yourself, man. What made you take that approach to? I mean, you have to. Because I'm being clear about what you're trying to get here. Yeah. Pops be giving you the game on that.
Starting point is 00:17:43 What did you say? You said, popps be giving you the game on the music and all that too? Honestly, nobody gives me tips on anything unless I ask. And I appreciate it. I can definitely see it. Good, man. Yeah. I appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I did want to ask you this. We're going to turn this to a whole podcast. Might as well. You saw Slick Rick went platinum the other day on the children's story. 36 years later, man. Yeah. As a hip-hop. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:13 Talk to me, man. What y'all think of that? Just to see. It's amazing because one thing you got to understand it that since Stick Rick came home, he has been totally. about his business and for him to stay out here and stay relevant.
Starting point is 00:18:27 Him and Dougie Fresh. It's always him and Dougie Fresh. I see there are like pillars in the hip-hop industry. So to see that he's still out here and still being innovative, he deserved that. And you also know the default line.
Starting point is 00:18:41 That thing probably went platinum 25, 30 years ago. For real. They just now want to tell him to this platinum. I want to say that. In my mind, platinum back then.
Starting point is 00:18:53 All that shit supposed to be platinum. Yeah, you know what platinum is. It's just a, you know how the numbers. They say watch the numbers. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:01 They didn't have the right people in place during those times, the right business. Because one thing the OGs always say, they're watching the game there saying,
Starting point is 00:19:11 look at all the money y'all getting. That's from media. That's from the artist. Y'all got your business together. Yeah. And that's the difference.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I got to ask this because I'm thinking family, right? So you say you wanted to do the music by yourself, you didn't want no help. Yeah. Now, Gip, when she called you for the feature, do you charge her? She ain't going to call. You don't think she's going to sing your name? No, no.
Starting point is 00:19:38 You didn't have one for pop to jump on? No. No. But no. I do believe in pulling from. So as I'm putting things out, you'll be able to recognize certain things. So I did want to ask you, who would you say is like some of your main musical inspirations? And then how would you describe your sound?
Starting point is 00:20:01 Honestly, okay, I've always been more inspired by songwriters and producers more so. So the dream, this is random, but the dream, that's a big piece of how I approach, like, writing a song that just, like, is head on. like boom Stacy Barth is another songwriter um
Starting point is 00:20:27 my mother yeah um yeah obviously dungeon close influences anybody that is
Starting point is 00:20:39 a family legacy I mean it's not hard to figure out who I'm attached to but I'll just put it like that anybody that I'm attached to has a level of influence over how I approach music, but it is mine
Starting point is 00:20:51 and it's nostalgic and I make music for my eight-year-old self. Yeah. And that's how I've been approaching it. I'm just having fun. There's a lot of vulgarity. I feel like I'm approaching it with a palatable approach.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Like, I'm for everybody. Everybody in between. Kids. You got some great mentors around. Thank you. You got a lot of family that's deep, a lot of uncles, a lot of aunties. Yeah, a lot of... Cuzzers and Kim folks. A lot of love.
Starting point is 00:21:19 Definitely in the music. A lot of family. Okay. Yeah. This is true. Gip, this is amazing, man. We got everybody watching. We got to get you come back to the studio, man.
Starting point is 00:21:32 I'm going to come back. I'm going to come back to the studio, man. Coming, man. We're coming, man. I'm going to add some unctures to that function. Unconditionally. Come on, man. You know, hey, man, I just got into the unc community.
Starting point is 00:21:47 Yeah, yeah. And I finally think. why they made us unks. Somebody got to pay for this shit. They're really just using us. Pay for a lot of shit. We love the unks. You don't even know you, unc.
Starting point is 00:22:02 I'm standing in line. A little fan of that girl, niggins. Like, what's up? Hunk? I got to give me away. I'm the old nigger. I can't do it. But this dude, though.
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah. We in control. Yeah. back then I said man if I had this much knowledge as a young man oh man I would have been so much father you gotta earn this. No. That one thing you gotta earn to be an ump. Yeah, I feel like unk is like a prestigious title.
Starting point is 00:22:31 Rep. Every father is bro. Was it any hesitation when she said she wanted to get involved with the music where you like, but you know how to end the street? She didn't tell me. She didn't tell me. She went over her uncle house Dallas Dallas, Dallas Austin House and her and her and her her play brug got on, got it.
Starting point is 00:22:49 in that studio and she came out with a song and went straight on the radio. So for me, it was amazing to see. Her first song that she wrote went straight on the radio, DJ Jellie. Hold on the-up, man, we celebrate shit like that. Celebrate shit, mate. So it was amazing to see.
Starting point is 00:23:09 She didn't ask for no help. I just found out in the end. She was like, I do it. Yeah, I pretty much had like half of the catalog already by the time I started sharing music with them. Oh, wow. And then by the time, and really when I'm sharing stuff with them, I'm just like, say something. What you got to say?
Starting point is 00:23:27 Who was more hesitant, mom or dad? A mom? Mom, but not really because she trusts my judgment. Yeah. So anything that I was doing, she knew that I was going to be able to navigate how I needed to. So, yeah, and that's what I'm doing. Whole family doing it, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:47 That's how we love it over here, man. We love the family atmosphere. We live here at One Music Fest. Y'all stay tuned. We're bringing everybody on the couch right now to the show. We need the whole family. We do a family reunion. Period.
Starting point is 00:24:00 I do it. That'll be hard, man. We're out of here. Four minds. We out of here. One Music Fest. Backwoods, backstage. What if mind control is real?
Starting point is 00:24:11 If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have? Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car? When you look at your mind. your car, you're going to become overwhelmed with such good feelings. Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you? I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused. Can you get someone to join your cult? NLP was used on me to access my subconscious.
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