The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Backwoods Backstage w/ JORDAN the STALLION| 85 SOUTH SHOW

Episode Date: June 30, 2025

Lex P and Drea Nicole of POUR MINDS sit down with JORDAN the STALLION at Backwoods Backstage!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network, Tune in on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Do you remember Vine? It changed the Internet forever, and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend, and this is Vine, six seconds that changed the world.

The untold story of genius, betrayal, and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive. From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. And what's up, y'all, your girl, Lex P. I'm with my girl, Dre and Nicole from Poor Mines, and we with our brother D.C. Young Fly of 85 South Show. Y'all know we're cutting up with a little. the backwoods backstage, all right?

And joining us on the couch, we have the one and only. Who we got? Who we got? Okay, all right, for sure. Period. Period. Period. All right, cool. I have to ask you this. Where did you get the name Jordan Estallion from? Did you get that from me? Well, yeah, see, it was a joke that I, so I didn't change the name before I did the videos. Okay. I played sports before this. I played baseball. What was this? I was an outfielder when they're going to draft me in that. to New York, I was going to be a first baseman. Oh, you was good. Oh, wow.

I mean, I worked on it. Why didn't you go to baseball? We're being modest. I mean, I worked on it. But no, because I obviously baseball, you got to squat all the time. And Megan was obviously on a historic rise. I was like, oh, drawing the stallion. And I just never changed.

I forgot to. And it stuck. And it stuck. And it stuck. So I'm like, I'm just going to keep it. Okay. Hopefully she gives me grace with it. Yeah.

Yes. So I wanted to ask you, how did you get into being a food influencer? because you have amassed so many followers on TikTok and Instagram. Like, how did you even? A boy, I like to eat. Everywhere he goes. But you got to eat. Boy, that's the first thing I'm looking for.

Well, no, honestly, it was just, I mean, I loved just doing, honestly, anything, everything was just so fun for me. I started doing videos as an anxiety exercise. Oh, wow. I'm tremendously anxious, very introverted. So doing videos is kind of just to feel, I don't know, what just happened. It was a bug. Yeah, it was a book. You know, me, I'm from the hood, Whistackie, didn't have to save everybody.

Had to save everybody. Talk about your food. So, I really, what I started doing was I did videos, and I was, like, my 9-to-5 jobs. And whenever I had, like, an awful customer, like a bad coworker, I'd just be like, let me tell you what happened yesterday. And I was doing it that way. And people really liked it. And then when I found out, they liked food, I was like, well, let's do that, too.

Because I've been baking since I was, like, four or five years old. And I just started cooking three years ago. So it was super easy. So TikTok to me is one of the time. of the like fastest rising like social media apps but also what comes with that is you have to stay on top of the trend and yeah

well because I feel like this with YouTube it's long form content so people just like they want to sit and watch 85 they're going to sit and watch 85 they're going to sit and watch poor minds but with TikTok you have to really keep up with the trends and stay fresh with all that stuff

so having 20 million followers that's a lot of followers how do you stay relevant in a world like TikTok. Well, that's kind of the funny thing about it. And people always hate this answer. But, you know, the secret to it is it's not really a secret. It's the thing is, like, you just do what you like to do, you feel me?

Social media is the thing where people are going to love what you put out there. If it's good enough, like, for them, it's good enough for you too. My brother says something that sticks with me to this day where he's in objectively good videos is going to do good. It's going to do something, gives an audience something, right? They can take away from it. Why there's information, education, food, what have you. So you don't have to follow the trends that happening day by day.

hey, you just give them something that you find value in, and they do too, and they share it with everybody else, and then you can continue to do a fun stuff like this. For example, like, fun facts, like, like, like, lemon juice can erase highlighter ink. Yeah. And people will then erase what? Highlighter ink. You need to highlight something. You can just take a cue tip, put lemon juice on and erase a highlighter off.

But people don't know that. So, like, it's little stuff like that. But it's crazy part that we drank some shit that can erase highlight ink. You feel? That's all I keep thinking about. But, like, but again, it's just that. So staying true to that and being appreciative of the audience, they'll feed back into you. So that's kind of how it is.

It's fun, though. Right. Especially with the collaborations. That's the funnest thing in the world. Yeah. So talk about that Method Man collaboration. Oh, man. People always talk about that.

Y'all look like twins and y'all. Like a method man, Cuba good, and Jr. Right. A little Cuba good. A little Method Cuba. Metta Cuba. This boy child. Okay, look.

No, honestly, after we did our first thing with Kev, we did, it was Kevin Hart. And then after that, I watched Soul playing. for the first time, which please be easy on me of that, but I watched Soul Point for the first time and I saw Meth was in it, and I was like, yo, meth is hilarious. He's a funny dude, so I went to Rosco's and I sent to him a DM and I said, y'all I got an idea. And by the time I got done with my meal, he hit me,

he's like, let's do it. And so I flew out to New York the day before the Super Bowl. He didn't know what was going on, he didn't know what we were doing, but it took like maybe 10 minutes to film and I left. And he was like, oh, when's it's gonna go up? In a week or two, I said, it's gonna go up in five minutes. And so I posted it five minutes later and it went crazy.

That's crazy. to do a 10-minute filming for TikTok. And then I bounced it. That's crazy. But I think stuff like that is what people need to hear. Yeah, because that's a lot. But that's the thing is that the purpose of it, there was no purpose behind.

I just wanted to exist in the world. It just sounds fun. It'll feed my heart. It feed everybody else's too. So when I told Method by it, I said, there's no ulterior motive. You want to put something in, you can. But it says 10 minutes in, I'm out, nothing else.

And from there, I mean, we did five videos together at this point because he just, thankfully, he allowed me to have that level of trust. And so, I mean, I know, he's like a big brother. He's really, he's awesome. He's awesome. Coming from, you know, the social media, you know, that's my, that's my stomping ground. Oh, yes, sir. But, no, everything is, has these different times and its different pace.

Yes. T-top. I ain't got the energy, my boy. I hate to go latte. I feel super old when they come to you niggas going crazy on TikTok. I'm like. Oh, that's funny. Uh-uh.

You know the divine. And, oh, I'm like, who is sissing? You're trying to keep the buzz? Oh, she was spraying. Yeah, I'm about to say someone hissing at me. Me too. Like, what? I'm not going.

I was getting fin to get an auntie moh. That's crazy. No, but just speaking on the different, you know what I'm saying, the different waves of the different lanes, man. Like, I admire y'all that's on TikTok because I'm like, bro, I remember when I was on Vine and it takes some consistency to just get there. with TikTok, you can't relax with TikTok.

Facebook, Instagram, you could post cheer, two, three days later come back. TikTok, you ain't going to make it doing that with that process. So tell us that process when it comes to TikTok. I know you're thinking of a video right now

because you've got to feed them people. You feel what I'm saying? I know, I already, I filmed the video 20 minutes ago I just posted it. So that's a... Oh, wow. But you have to understand, like that's the thing is that because you're right.

With TikTok, first off, like, hey, everybody had watched you before and like you're the founding father and people give their respect to you because you know what I'm saying you really you guys in that era set the bar for us to do this anyway so that flower those flowers should be given those tries you know what I'm saying like this doesn't happen without y'all and so

with that yes it's way more fast pace I'm also old like I feel old like I'm not you are not old you have to understand though like some of the other people they're quick that's all they think about as a content for me doing videos it's just so much fun it's almost like you just you got to stop yourself

from doing it and I keep telling people don't don't do this unless you actually have fun with it. It comes to business. That's the thing. If you can answer yourself, I would do this for free. I would do this if nobody was watching. If you can answer those two questions, then do it.

But if you can't, if you're trying to do this for the fame or the money of it, they don't do it. Because I promise he was going to feel like a job. And with this comes anxiety. It comes with pressures. You guys all know. It comes with things that you weren't really, you had to teach yourself how to do, right?

Y'all was like the first generation from your families to break through to get this level up. You know what I'm saying? Like to where you got to set the bar for them. So unless you're ready to take that responsibility, don't do it. But if you are fully ready for it, it's a funest thing in the world. Making videos are so fun. Yeah, it lit.

Like, we even took, like, pages out of book from people like that was before. It was like King Batch and D. Storm. So it was like they was flipping cars at, like, 2013. So it was like they editing skills was up to par. Look, man. And that's another thing, too. There's no manual to this. You feel like?

There's people who have high production videos. Yeah. They be coming out with crazy. And then you got myself, I'm in a bathroom. Like, you know what I'm saying? You have to be popping up in and out. I'm out. But again, like, there's an art to all of it.

So you got to give respect to people who just take the leap to do it. You know, it doesn't matter how big the following is. Like, you take your time to sit down and you talk with them. Like, they have questions, answer them. Yeah. Feel me? Like, because it should be a community. I will say this.

I don't want to take too much of your time. But like, like, when you see social media people break through into the mainstream media, it shouldn't be jealousy. It should be pride. You should be proud. Because think about that. What we y'all can learn from each other. You feel me?

Not only that, like that, if anything, that shows that you can do it. Like, you're breaking through shows them that, okay, we could do this. And if you can hold the door open for other people, you tell them, like, I promise you that's going to spread out more than trying to keep the door closed. So just be prideful that, you know, this is bleeding into the traditional media. Right. I know you talk. How many videos do you post today on average?

Oh, gosh. I'll tell you what. So I post by the day, on the day. It's not written. So I do it right there. Whatever comes in, then I'll out. So because of that, obviously, it keeps me very current by the day. But I'll probably film, I mean, 9, 10 videos at day and maybe one goes out.

And the rest of them, I'll just dump it. And the next day, I'll just do something else. Because my mind, it's just always kind of going. So it kind of eases that. So when I talk to people, I'm less scattered brains. Right, right. You know what I mean? It's like a workout.

So, like, I may post one or two videos a day, but maybe nine get filmed, 10 get filmed. I'm so glad I popped when I did. Man, D.C. I can't do it. going on so I was recorded but I ain't got oh I ain't got the pastes I ain't got the pages for them now

I'm telling you I didn't post last week I posted TikTok two weeks ago I'm like I did that shit I ain't that up I ain't that all right I see y'all next month that's great

imagine how many videos they don't saw within them two weeks though I know people that are posting like three four every day yeah but then that's the thing with the content space

it's like all right you feed them something to make them come come follow you. Yeah. Because if you continuously feed in a certain situation then your mind

I just only think about that particular thing. So when I was stuck on Instagram, I was like, damn, I can't have an Instagram mind if I want to shoot movies. Right. But here's the thing, though, because you're right. It's a give and take.

You've got to pick and choose from the artist's self. Because with Instagram, the toughest algorithm is going to be TikTok. It is. It's the toughest one. But because of that, it really works you out. It makes you. stronger when you make your content outside of it.

And when it comes to the film industry, even the TV industry, which we've been involved with, it's where they're also trying to find how can we be able to deliver this in the most authentic and natural way that people can relate to. It's all about relatability, right? Within film, within anything else, it's an art. So you can take aspects and put it into the films. I think the bad part is, like, if you don't know what parts to take, because you've got movies, TV, where they're just like, let's get all the most lit people in this and it's

going to go crazy. It don't work. It doesn't work. no chemistry, so you've got to find elements to it and get people that actually makes sense, and it's beautiful, it's crazy. Yeah. I feel me. I know what he's talking about. That's why he got 20 million followers. But nobody's talking about

that. I know you said that you'd be having fun with it, but when was, what was that one video that you were called where you was like, okay, I'm about to be out of here with these. Like, I could really make a living from this, make a career from this. You got to understand. I'm certain all you all could attest to this, but my parents were very traditional.

Nine to five was it. Stability is it. That's what they want. That's what they need. That's what I wanted me because I learned from them. So I didn't quit my job. I wasn't going to. I had 9 million followers, but I was still working my pizza job. I wouldn't quit it. Even though I was only getting like $400 a paycheck, but it didn't matter if I was funny,

if I was sad, if I was happy, I get paid. And I can get that money in my parents and I was straight. So by the time, because COVID, I had to quit because my grandmother was immune compromised, so I didn't want to get her sick. I was applying for jobs while I was going alive. I wanted to keep the job. My management helped me like in just staying. busy with the social media to where I was too busy to go back to apply to jobs.

So by that point on my art, I'm just focused on this. But the moment where I realized, okay, this could be something special was the Kevin Hart collaboration, only because I was the first time I ever had to, like, write and write for someone. You feel me? Because, again, all my videos are just off my, I never wrote. So writing for someone when you got to prep for it, it was hard. They had me write seven different scripts out, and I had to really, like, and just hone it out.

There's all my idea, and they gave me that freedom. So when it came out and people liked it, and they were laughing at the jokes, Kev said that I wrote. I was like, yo, this is crazy. And it was so, I loved it. So from then, I was craving. I'm like, let me, like, I want to keep doing the groundwork so we can keep doing these little side missions because it's a lot of fun. So, and also I want to be able to show people that you can do things in the social media that things are possible, right? We just had the State Front commercial.

I want people to show that it was possible, right? I'm trying to work with names. I don't want to say yet. Oh, say them so they can know they want to work with you. But what I'm the thing is, we're about to do it. I want to jinx it. Oh, so, so, so, so you feel. Ain't no more than gang, ain't a thing.

But I want to show me, but I want to show people that it's possible. It's possible. Just come genuine and be a good human being. Don't try to use people. Just try to learn from people. And don't, if you keep that about you, the sky is the limit. Like, just keep going. Like, don't use people.

Like, know that human beings or human beings regardless of status. Okay. Talk you talk, my boy. Thank you. on TikTok, $12 million on IG. So out of those, all those people, in case they don't, they aren't following you, let them know where to find you at, everything you got coming up, and all that good stuff. Yes, man, thank you guys.

So my name is Jordan Howlett or Jordan the Stallion 8 on all platforms. And, I mean, I'm excited to show y'all what we got. I won't say nothing, but I'm excited. It'll be fun. Period. We can't wait for this. Thank you, guys. Thank you. All right, it's your girl, Lex P., Dr. Nicole, D.C., Youngflop.

reminds at 85 South and we're backstage we're backwoods. We'll see y'all. Yeah, thank you guys so much. Thank you guys. Thank you, guys. For what. The network has launched 15 shows and built a community united by passion. Podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports.

Thank you for supporting IHeart women's sports and our founding sponsors, elf beauty, Capital One, and Novartis. Just open the free IHeart app and search IHeard Women's Sports to listen now. I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant. For My Heart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning. River Road. In the woods of Minnesota, a cult leader married himself to 10 girls and forced them into a secret life of abuse. But in 2014, the youngest escaped. Listen to the Turning River Road

on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney, and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Do you remember Vine? It changed the internet forever, and it vanished in its prime. I'm Benedict Townsend, and this is Vine, six seconds that changed the world, the untold story of genius, betrayal, and the app that died so that TikTok could thrive.

From overnight stars to the fall that no one saw coming, we're breaking down what made Vine iconic. Listen to Vine on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. This is an IHeart podcast.