The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - BET Awards Media House ft. Marques Houston

Episode Date: January 15, 2026

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Hey, man, welcome back to the 2025 BET Awards. You got them, Los. I don't walked around this whole one. I've been lucky just for a straight legend. Yeah, ghetto legend, bro. And I'm saying, bro, this dude right, right here, I know he's been making hits since I was about them 12 years old. Because when I was a young nigga on the phone, first holland, and you know what I'm saying,

you have some little R&B playing. Come on, man. Yeah, that's the word. You already know. Sutterly playing. You had to have some immature playing. Yeah. And some Marcus Houston.

Man, when you, shit, dad, go right there. You had to ask naked, man. No, no. Mr. Marcus Hughes. You're talking about, man. Man, I give you all your respect, bro. because I remember all the way back to the immature days. That's what's up.

Then they brought it back with the immature days. Then you came by yourself. That's right. Then you had grown women getting butt naked. We literally grew up together, bro. Don't forget, sister, sister. Yeah. Go home, Roger.

How do you know? 42? I'm 43. That's what I'm thinking. That's what it is. Right there. Come on, man. Yeah.

ABC, all of that shit. It was, man, we had moments. Absolutely. And you was all. always the least singing, I was, I was. House party,

house party, no, three, three and four, house party two, three. Kid and play here. Yep. Johnny Booz,

the stripper. Johnny Boos. Johnny Boos. And Johnny Williams. And Johnny Williams and stripper. And tell them the party's here. Yep. Tell,

and Johnny, she goes, yeah. Chris Tucker first. Hi, man. I'm gonna tell her, man. I'm gonna ring a head, man. That's what you want to bring a head? Because they owe me some money,

man. Two of my girls are getting him the carpet. A car wreck. Yeah, man. Man, big salute to everything. Thank you, thank you. You've been doing your thing. I appreciate it, man.

Yes, sir, yes, sir. That's what's up. That's right, that's right. How to hell you been, bro? I've been good, man. I've just been working. We, we hear, a part of the BET experience, it's an honor to be here. You know what I mean?

We're promoting our new movie run. Myself, Erica Minna, Erica Pinkett, Claudia Jordan, Annie Alonza, you know, Ken Lawson, Obababatune Day, it's an incredible thing. Chris Stokes wrote and directed this movie. We're putting it. It's in theaters, only in theaters, August 29th, so we're really excited about that.

August 29th, man, yeah. We just want everybody to go check this out as a sci-fi thriller. You know, so it's aliens, it's running, and it's real intense, you know, so we're really excited about it, man, and I'm just, I'm excited to be here, a part of this, and to promote it,

and just, you know, I really want everybody to go out and check it out. Bro, sure. I can't believe we, sitting in here talking shit with it. I'm so excited because I feel like I still might get some of us just because I'm on here with you.

Hey, you know, if I can help you do your thing, then, you know, that's, I've always been a part of that, you know what I mean? You know, a lot of people coming to me like, hey, you know, I had babies to your song naked. I'm like, okay, cool. You know, a lot of babies was born to that song. So, you know.

You know. I'm honored. You know, I try. And the acting to the other. Yeah, man. I'm in the same. movie actually run I'm in it I executive produced it wrote it along with Chris Stokes

and you know this is our you know coming to the theaters you know I just feel like you know a lot of it's it's time for black people to get back to the theaters you know it's important for us to be in the theaters and it's for us to support each other you know what I mean? Absolutely sneak a little popcorn and soda

you know what I'm saying? We want to sneak shit in there that ain't supposed to be in there hot wings alcohol pizza box all of that pepperoni making challenges this emotion. Soon as the movie, come on.

All you hear. This is a little bit. You know what I'm saying? It's all good. Let's do all of that. Y'all got a while open to back now. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Get a little champagne in the movies.

Hey, man, this one thing we always love to ask people who've been famous for a long time. Yeah, yeah. Because you got to be famous before social media. Before all of that. That's a different type of fame. What was that fame hitting like in the? You know, back in the day, it was cool because, you know, you didn't have so many people with so many opinions. Like social media, everything now, everybody got an opinion.

Everybody can say what they want. Everybody can, I mean, you could damn somebody that's famous and just. Hey, man, fuck you. You know what I? That's some hateful shit. But back then, you couldn't just do that. You couldn't just get to people. So, you know, I embrace it.

I think it's really revolutionary that we get to be so involved with each other now. Like the artists and the fans, it's not. necessarily that disconnect anymore. You know, you could go to your fans. The fans can tell you what they want. And they can tell you what they like. And I think that's a good thing. It's for me being able to see, you know, the evolution of the industry of where it's come

from to now, I think it's great. You know, I think it's that great connection that you get, you know, to really, you know, get that feedback, you know what I mean, to what they really want to see. You know, you can say, like, what do y'all want? And they tell you what they want and you can, you know, you can deliver it. So I think it's great You got to be famous in a time Where they had to shut the mall

You know They had to shut the mall down Exactly At the time where everybody Was going to the fucking malls Absolutely Going to the mall You know

We shut so many malls down Back in the day man People were following you for real Absolutely Yeah not just Not just I just Little girls

You know Exactly Yeah That's right That's what it was You know That's cold man Beant T awards

2025, anything you're looking forward to seeing, doing, person you want to bump into. Have you seen anybody you ain't seen in a minute? I ran into a lot of people today. I haven't seen them in a lot of my radio friends. Just a lot of people like, because I ain't been out in a minute. You know, I've been in the trenches just grinding, just grinding, popping out movies, writing, producing and everything like that.

You've been put up. Yeah, you know. You're put up in a nice, you watch it. A nice home. He said the trenches. Now I take you to the trenches. It's the work trenches. You know what I'm doing.

That work trenches. If you watch his move to the end alone, it'll be saying written, directed by executive producer. I was like, God damn, we do the whole motherfucking movie. You know, start him. That's what I'm trying to do it all, man. You know, just trying to, trying to, you know, create a nice, a nice future for my son and my daughter. Let me ask you this, bro. Because you did a whole lot of shit, like, before you was fucking 13, 14.

Do you think you did more work then as a kid or now? Now, for sure. Because that was like, you know, when you're artists, you kind of do artist stuff. You go on the studio, you go on TV. But like the work that I do now is more behind the scenes. It's more structural. So it's like it's everything. You know what I mean?

Being an artist, still being out there, still being in the movies, still being behind the scenes, writing, produce it. It's a lot more work now. But I like it. I love it. You know, I love what I do. Hey there. This is Dr. Jesse Mills, Director of the Men's Clinic at UCLA Health and Hope. host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January, guys everywhere make the same resolutions. Get stronger,

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Who your MVP right now then? Drake May up there, Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy. Matthew Stafford. Where did he? He ain't too far behind. He did all this talk. What Matthew Stafford is doing statistically, bro,

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from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. The moments that shape us often begin with a simple question. What do I want my life to look like now? I'm Dr. Joy Harden Bradford. And on therapy for black girls, we create space for honest conversations about identity, relationships, mental health, and the choices that help us grow. As cybersecurity expert, Camille Stewart Gloucester reminds us,

We are in a divisive time where our comments are weaponized against us. And so what we find is a lot of black women are standing up and speaking out because they feel. the brunt of the pain. Each week, we explore the tools and insights that help you move with purpose. Whether you're navigating something new or returning to yourself. If you're ready for thoughtful guidance and grounded support, this is the place for you. Listen to Therapy for Black Girls on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Let me ask you this, since you were a child star, you're still a star, but I'm saying, you started at a real young age.

Like you said, you got kids now. Yeah. your own yeah are they are they like talented like they are they are the same aspect so my my daughter and my son my son is almost two my daughter's almost four they sing yeah you know it's nothing like here my daughter sings my songs and she's like i want to hear daddy's song so you know she uh i definitely would would love for them to be a part of it if they want to i'm not going to force it i'm not going to you want to you want to yeah if they want to they want to if they want to do whatever they want it is and they they sing they dance they're definitely entertainer kids for sure

Definitely my little offspring. So, you know, they love to sing and be a part of it. And they just love it. So I love watching them, you know, do it, you know, and just watching them grow. And it's just an incredible thing for me. It's, you know, that next stage in my life, being a father is the most important thing for me right now. I remember somebody that was asking you, like, which one you love more, the acting or the music. Is it still a bad?

It's just entertainment. Yeah. I love to entertain. I love to tell stories. I love to just do what I do. And, you know, I think being an executive for me, it's just everything is stages in life. And that's just the stage that I'm in right now. And that's what's working for me.

That's the crazy part, though. You've been added for so long, but you're still a young man, bro. Yeah, I'm still, I'm still, we still young, you know. They don't know that. They don't know that. We're young old. We're young old. We're going to go out.

We don't leave early. We're going to go out, but we're going to leave early. That's right. You're going to bed. You're not staying the whole time. No, not at all. Yeah, but that's what a, we were just outside. That motherfucker's talking about

They twitching 24 hours And all that They don't take no naps I'm not twitching 24 hours I'm gonna twitch for 30 minutes You know They gotta get some rest You gotta get some rest

Hey man you still stay in touch With your band members Actually I do You know I try to do that as much as I can You know But you know when you grow up You know I'm a father

I'm a husband And just you know Just doing all of that You have your own lives And it's just You know you try to keep up As much as you can But you know

Everybody's just doing something different Man, what's next for you, bro? You didn't get movies, TV, film, stage plays, world tour, solo, group, albums. Well, right now, like I said, run. Run is it. They can operate parachutes. He can fix wheelchairs.

And they can read Braille. Sign language. Well, right now, we focus on run. It's out in theaters. August 29th. I want everybody to make sure that you go support that. Run. You would put all your own stunts and shit?

I did all my own stunts. Yeah, I actually did. All right. So this is incredible. This is where we at right now. And who knows what's next? We'll just, we'll figure it out when we get there. Hey, man, we got to do something.

We got to. I don't know what it is, but like, like, all the people that I graduated with and all the girls who, like, had you on their wall when I was calling their house, bro, it's time for us to link up and get some get back. Absolutely. Oh, that's going to be hard. You already know. But bring immature back and put me in it. I always want to be.

in that goddreble. Never lie. I want to be on the beach with y'all. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? We had a motion back then. I was only 12. We're sure. It's just like, y'all was some grown young niggas. We was. We was. Looking at y'all like, man, they do whatever they want to. They ain't got a go cart, man. They ain't got a go cart. With his name, airbrushed down his leg.

My grandmother thought I was in a game. One time she's seen that shit Why your name on your pants, let That's how it had to be You know? Man, bro, we grew up in one of the best eras We did, we did, absolutely And for you to be able to still

Fuck with this entertainment industry The way that you do You definitely don't get your flowers The way you're supposed to be You know, the thing is You were not wrong for Likin Tia and Tamara Both of them You was not

You know what it, you got to stay focused You got to stay focused I don't get what fuck if they was real sisters That's right the shit before future. You know? An icon, a legend, even. You know, it's how we do it.

This is the first scammer of our generation, technically. When they hid their luggage and got the check. Oh, man, you already know. Send it to 1637 Blass Avenue. You know? Come on. Hey, Lucy.

Yep. That ain't turtle. That's a ad. Bray, you were part of a lot of culture. Yeah, man. Absolutely. It's just so dope to watch you grow up. Thank you.

all the cool shit that you did. Like, we're watching TV. We getting to see you do the cool shit, man. With the go carts and the airbrush and the... Digger, you was the young fly, nigga. You was already rich, nigga. You did the whole video with no shoes on, man. That's what's up, man.

So, hey, it's much love and respect, man. Thank you. I appreciate y'all, man. Please keep doing your thing. Oh, but before we go, hold up. Wait a minute. Before we go. Before we go, we got to do this.

We got to do this. to do it now. All right. I'm ready for whatever it is. Tell him what's coming, bro. Lowe's man, you know, he researches a lot. He practices. Okay.

And he's real physilosophical. Physiological. Yeah, you know what I'm trying to say. Physiological. This is the world. Fisylosical. He came up with a segment just for the BET Awards. Okay, okay.

Just for 2025 BETT Awards and you only do it right here. That's what's up. Let's do it. The segment he came up with it. What the fuck? you got on. And you tell us what you got on from top to bottom and you pop your shit

only in the way you pop your shit. I would say I got on Valentino. Oh. Shoes Valentino. Okay. Valentino. Rolex watch. A couple of jewelry pieces.

I don't really know what this is. And I got on a tank top. Haynes. Hey, now. I got a stylist. Let me tell you how you know you've been rich a long time. Haynes tank top.

Rolex. No damas. Different ball. We don't fuck it up. No, no, no, no. I got my little work watch on it. That bitch light up. That bitch light up with the green hands.

I can go underwater with this one. That's all. The divers watch. That's the diver's watch. James Cameron, you know. A couple jewelry pieces. A couple pieces. A couple pieces.

You keep your mind, bro. He's been in the game a long time. We own a lot of shit. He's a marathon for him. He got a black-owned popcorn business that I didn't tell nobody about. I looked them up. What flame was a lot? Man, they got honey.

Caramel. See? But a sky. Cheese. Honey hot. Cheese. I got to ask you this. Because I grew up in a generation where everything you did was successful. Yeah.

And I remember watching the house party, right? Uh-huh. What happened to the little Spanish dude? He was Asian. What happened to him? Y'all just replaced Disney game? No, so what happened is his, in the Philippines, they go to school like seven days a week. It's like crazy or six days a week.

and his parents just wanted him to go to school. Y'all still cool? I mean, I talked to him like a couple years ago. Yeah, I'm still cool with everybody. But y'all just straight up replaced this nigga. We just replaced him. We just replaced him. Boom.

That's cold. Yep. Bro, you got a lot of history that you got to start. Absolutely. You got to start saying some shit, bro. You got to pop out and you got to come on the 85thouse out. I got to do that. Man, it's so dope that you stop through.

Absolutely. 829, right. I appreciate it. Absolutely. Absolutely. A. 29, August 29th run. Y'all got to all, you know, buy out the theater, support. Everybody go out and check it out, for show. Listen, man. B.U.T.

awards. That's what's up. 2025. 85 South Show. Navgreen. Legends stopping through here. Marcus Houston, man. Come on, man. Let's get it. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. This is Dr. Jesse Mills,

host of the Mailroom podcast. Each January men promise to get stronger, work harder, and fix what's broken. But what if the real work isn't physical at all? I sat down with psychologist Dr. Steve Poulter to unpack shame, anxiety, and the emotional pain men were never taught how to name. Part of the way through the Valley of Despair is realizing this has happened and you have to make a choice whether you're going to stay in it or move forward. Our two-part conversation is available now. Listen to the mailroom on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, for wherever you get your favorite shows.

A New Year doesn't ask us to become someone new. It invites us back home to ourselves. I'm Mike Delarocha, a host of Sacred Lessons, a space for men to pause, reflect, and heal. This year we're talking honestly about mental health, relationships, and the patterns we're ready to release. If you're looking for clarity, connection, and healthier ways to show up in your life,

Sacred Lessons is here for you. Listen to Sacred Lessons with Mike Deloach on the IHart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. This show contains information subject to, but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man?

This is your boy, Nav Green, from the Broken Play Podcast. Look, it's the end of the season, the playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play Podcasts with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Not a team who ain't going to the playoffs. They're cheese.

It's time to rebuild. Listen to Broken Play with Nav Green from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app. Apple Podcasts or whatever you get your podcast. You know, we always say New Year, New Me, but real change starts on the inside. It starts with giving your mind and your spirit the same attention you give your goals.

Hey, everybody, it's Michelle Williams, host of Checking In on the Black Effect Podcast Network. And on my podcast, we talk mental health, healing, growth, and everything you need to step into your next season, whole and empowered. New Year, Real You. Listen to Checking in with Michelle Williams from the Black Effect Podcast Network

on the IHeart radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. This is an IHeart podcast. Guaranteed human.