The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - BET Awards Media House ft. That Mexican OT
Episode Date: January 28, 2026Karlous and Navv sit down with THAT MEXICAN OT at the BET Awards!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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It's tough, boy.
That's my partner, me.
For real.
The way you and Chico go back and forth and shit,
y'all are the greatest to me.
Man.
You know what I'm saying?
You got to understand.
I was watching that shit since, you know,
a puppet child when Kevin and Kat was still on there.
Hell, you.
You know what I'm saying?
So, you know, it was always a cool thing to me, you know,
as a rapper, you know what I'm saying?
That's what I always wanted to get on there and talk shit
and just have fun.
And I like that, man.
I like how you got to have thick skin to be.
You should go on now.
Well, you know what I'm waiting on y'all.
You ready?
I'm more than ready.
I'm putting the call in.
There's work, baby.
I know it's going to happen.
Thank you, cousin.
I'm putting the call in.
Hey.
I didn't know.
Bro, your shit, you didn't blow up so much.
We didn't even know that you was fucking with that.
Oh, bro, yeah, hell, yeah.
I mean, you got to understand, bro, the whole reason why I'm doing it is why?
Because I'm a fan.
That's crazy.
I'm a fan of the music, you know what I'm saying?
I'm doing it because I like it.
Well, really, because Sophie wanted me to do it.
Sofi wanted me to be a rapper.
Real?
Yeah, hell yeah.
She knew you could rap, but she just wanted to do this.
She just wanted me to write.
You got to understand.
My mom was real, like, thug, selling crack, you know what I'm saying?
People tried pimple, but she was beautiful, but she was already fucking with my brother daddy and he, you know, they got down.
So, but she was already jamming that rap shit.
Like, who your mom's favorite rapper?
She's like Ashanti and Jaru and shit like that.
Oh, alright?
My mom passed when I was eight years old, so I wouldn't be able to tell you a lot, you know, but I'll tell you what she was jamming.
I mean, my mama used to be sitting on the floor.
used to be sitting on the floor ironed in her money i've been saying this all day today we at bt
my mom's be sitting on the floor ironed in her money i'd be standing on the bed rapping to whatever
music video was being played on one-on-six and part you know what i'm saying my mama she's like
them black boys and black boys will come over with their CDs rapping and shit you know what i'm saying
they thought they was hard till i dominated you know hey man i was in the seventh grade i moved in
my daddy right and daddy was wild bro he he he got all the clubs jumping selling it to the owner the
the owner giving it to the bitches bitches know who they're getting in front they love chuck he tall handsome
and swole, cock of a horse.
Take him home.
Every night, Monday through Sunday.
You know what I'm saying? It was an after party.
And at three, four, five o'clock in the morning, he would wake me up, and he'd be like, son,
you ready to whoop ass?
And I'm like, man, I got to go to school.
And I'm like, he's a fuck school.
You know, you don't even want to be there anyways.
You ready to get down there and whoop ass?
And I go down there, and there'd be a house full of women.
And there's a few dudes there, and those dudes are there because my dad met him at the club.
And he's like, oh, you're up?
Ben, watch this.
Come on.
And he wakes me up.
He never did it.
He wasn't making me do it like, oh, this is gonna make you better one day, son.
Like this is what's gonna take you to the top.
He wasn't thinking like that.
It was pure selfishness.
It was all his entertainment, you know?
Like he woke me up and knew I was an animal.
And I remember he'd be like, son, cuss, say whatever you want to say.
And if he dared even try to touch you, it's going down.
Damn, man, you had a very interesting childhood.
Y'all know, it gets wilder, bro, you know?
But I love my story, man.
You know what I'm from the sticks.
I better start coming to the city
when I was doing this rapping shit
You know, so it's cool, man
What you say to Stix where you're from?
I'm from Bay City, Texas
Bay City.
I'm from Be Careful Thayas, you know what I'm saying?
Hey, man, you were just like D.C.
Get comfortable, bro.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, I love D.C.
I met him a few times.
Another great.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
That's sick as fuck.
Yeah.
You ain't seen the clip.
Yeah, I have, I just don't know
if he's done it multiple times or now.
Oh, that's actually.
That's his walkout.
Oh, that's his song.
Oh, that's a song.
It's so hard.
There you know what my walkout song is?
What?
You know Alice in the Chains?
Allison Chains?
Yeah.
I know the group.
Yeah, man in the box.
Man of the box, that's the song.
I walk out, that bad boy right there.
It feels like a wrestler.
I come out.
I'm like, y'all, in the crowd.
Hey, man, your shows be off the motherfucking chain.
Oh, yeah, bro.
I'm talking about everything, bro.
I've had prosthetic legs on stage.
I've had bras and panties.
You know what I'm saying?
I've had some crazy shit at my shows.
I like it, bro.
I have some crazy times at the shows, too.
Some shows can get crazy.
Crowds are everybody singing word for word.
You got to understand, man, I'm from bumfuck Egypt.
So when I see these motherfuckers know me and really like that shit, it's like, damn.
I always wanted to ask you this, though.
You got your own signature cut, bro.
Hair cut.
It's a mullet.
I know it, but, like, what made you?
How long you've been rocking this kid?
That's your shit now.
Yeah.
I've always just had long hair and did different things with it.
Yeah.
But the mullet kind of just what I landed on.
I really riffrabs the king of that shit
riffraff Theo Theo
Joe Dirt all them bad boys you know
I want to grow up and be like them
You never really see a Mexican with a mullet
Oh yeah you do well now you do
Taking that shit over
Well yeah and then now everybody doing it
Yeah feel good to be a catalyst or something
You know what I'm saying
Because I remember growing up like I go to school
And everybody talk shit to me
I go home and I get shit talking to
So it felt like I wouldn't shit
And it got to the point where I believe them
So physically, emotionally, spiritually, I was broken as a human being.
Didn't know what to do.
How you break out of it, bro?
Man, you just figure it the fuck out.
Nobody feels bad for you, you know what I'm saying?
Any problem I ever had, I headbutted it.
And I didn't have nobody to run to it.
So I sat down and was like, look, Virgil.
We don't want to fucking feel like this no more.
And I thank God for the music.
The music is what did it.
So once you figured it out, it went no stop.
I don't think.
I figured it out without figuring it out.
I just kind of walked into it.
Yeah.
It was like, thank you.
Let me ask you this as an artist, though.
What was that moment or that song that made you feel like, okay, now shit is different?
I was in the studio and I was recording, I recorded the song called La Muerte and I recorded the song called Call of the Grito.
And when I laid those two down, I was like, whoa, like, I'm not rapping no more.
I'm making songs.
And like I remember I was recording La Muerre and I was listening to, I'm in the studio.
I don't smoke until I'm done recording it.
I don't like being hot when I'm in there.
Sometimes I do when I'm creating, but like as far as like having it memorized,
going to the studio and laying it down, I don't get high time.
He's mixing and mastering the mastering.
So my boy, C-4 is mixing and mastering the track,
and I remember the verse was ending and that second hook was coming in
and my grito went off and I was just listening to the song, bang,
and I ain't cry about tear it up because I was like, man, I'm a do it.
I'm here.
And I was still a nobody.
But I was like, I'm gonna fucking do it.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
If you believe in yourself so much,
the world has no choice but to believe in you.
I got so much belief,
I can get everybody in this bitch some belief
and still have plenty to dominate everyone.
Pop your shit!
Real.
I believe in you.
I believe in you.
Being from Texas, you know,
like how y'all hold y'all legends in high regard.
Like how was it you and Paul Wals putting on it on?
It's a beautiful thing,
man, slim thug, Paul Wall,
zero, all of them,
could still go to those little small-at country towns and fuck it up.
You know what I'm saying?
Texas is a beautiful market, man, and we just, we love our, we love our OGs.
We're grateful for them.
Texas has been these shit.
We just barely getting our recognition because it needed somebody like Big Exa Plug.
You needed somebody like Mancinoa T.
But we've been to shit, bro.
You know what I'm saying?
Look at Future.
You know what I'm saying?
He's talking that, sir, listening to his beats.
It's all bass.
That's Southside.
You know what I'm saying?
We got Lil Wayne, considered the greatest of all the time.
and he's reciting Big Mo lyrics.
You know what I'm saying?
Sipping Drane.
You got a Canadian that came from fucking Canada.
Moved the Houston, talking about
the arm in the lover, Houston strippers,
candy paint, switching colors in the light.
The fondly love with that syrup,
is that Texas, cousin.
You know what I'm saying?
It's been the shit.
You know what's all going on.
Slim Thug had an interview,
and he was like, man, I remember what motherfuckers was looking at?
It was like, we were stupid
because we were riding on elbows, sipping cough syrup.
They were like, what the fuck of these idiots doing?
You know what I'm saying?
Now I look at it.
You know, it needs a Mexican like that.
Mexican like me.
You know what I'm saying?
They need a big black boy like
X.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm grateful to be...
When you say a Mexican like me, what kind of Mexican?
I'm a Texano.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a huge difference from any other
Mexican in my personal opinion.
I'm from the South.
You know what I'm saying?
And I mean, don't get a fucked up.
Like, rapping wise, I was jamming nothing but the East.
The East Coast is a reason why I kill shit.
But I'm from the South, so I'm forever going to have that groove in me.
And like, I can say nonsense and it's going to sound cool.
I got a song where I say, I can say stupid shit and it still sound good.
See?
Stupid shit.
Fogar running, and I punch out a stupid bitch.
Bullets flying, they hit like a doobie head.
You know what I am?
It don't matter what you say.
Just make it sound cool.
Who's the rapist from the East you listening to?
I'm going to give you three people.
And these three people are like a little pot of gumbo for me and that's who I am.
Gotcha.
And I'm dirty.
I'm player and I'm fast.
Big L, I'm 50 Cent and I'm Buster.
You know what I'm saying?
And from the stilos to the, I'm 26 years old, you know, so I still got a lot to learn,
but from the stilos to the swagger to how complex it was, how they would manipulate words to still rhyme and still make sense.
Yeah.
Yeah, I love that shit, man.
You know what I'm saying?
It was sick.
I love breaking it down.
I love being fucked up when I listen to it a few times.
I'm like, that's what the fuck he said.
Right.
But you know what?
Like, now that would you put it into that?
I always like to listen to East Coast music.
After I had some, like after I was done already though.
Like when the money, like when I, like on payday,
that's when I would ride around listening to Jay-Z and A-Z and Nas and shit like that.
Because that's, all that, the East Coast music at the time was like, get money music.
Put you in that perspective.
Yeah, but like on the ground, I wanted some shit from the dirty South.
Yeah.
I want to listen to Project Pet.
You know what I'm saying?
Because if you listen to Project Pet, he always scheming on the come up or platinum on the
He ain't never get to the point where he was flexing on nobody.
Yeah.
You feel what I'm saying?
Yeah, it's hard.
I like that.
It's a good mentality to be in.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Keep longevity.
What's next for you, man?
Man, I got his project dropping called recess in August.
I'm gonna do a tour after it.
I'm super excited about it because, you know, I'm just being Virgil on there.
And Virgil do what Virgil wants to do.
The project might piss a lot of people off.
Why you say that?
You know, because I talk to that talk.
I don't get a fuck.
You know what I'm gonna fuck.
You know what I'm gonna fuck.
I don't go fuck these people like my music
because quite frankly I do this shit
because Sophie wanted me to do this shit
You know what I'm saying?
I don't took
Fuck with your music
No and I'm grateful for that
And I love that and I go above and beyond
But letting them know that hey I love you bitch
Thank you so much
You know what I'm saying?
For real
Like for real for real for real boy
This is your first time at the BET award
Yeah
Because we was talking to left
Yesterday right
Left the gunplay
Yeah
And he was like man I ain't know it was like this
Yeah
Bro you got to let the Mexican people
No, come fuck with this, man.
We're gonna fuck around
and turn this shit up a whole other level.
Well, there's a lot.
There's a lot.
There's a lot.
There's a lot of black people
that look at me crazy
because of the way I am, you know what I'm saying?
But like, so that's why I was feeling like it was
like, I'm here like, I'm here.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah, but I don't, you know what I'm saying?
I don't.
You know what I'm saying?
But I, and I'm grateful for being here.
And like I said,
BT is a beautiful thing and I'm glad to be a part of.
But I was scared to come here
because I know a lot of people look at me
What the fuck are you doing?
Who are you?
Why are you acting like that?
I have some other people in here
when you look at that.
Like, it ain't.
It ain't even make the fuck as you doing, let's.
Yeah.
Well, good.
The people who are looking at you like that,
now are we looking at that day.
Well, good.
That made me feel good, you know,
because, like, I like,
being places where I'm accepted
because I want to fuck with who I want,
like who want to fuck with me.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't get a fuck if you're fucking
Pokemon or strides.
I don't get a fuck of your trans.
I don't get a fuck your Chinese,
black, whatever.
If you love me, I love you.
And if you hate me, I love you.
Because eventually you're going to be on my boat.
So I don't want to fuck anything up because I love you.
Like, I need you.
I don't want enemies.
That's a word.
You know what I'm saying?
That's a hell of a philosophy, man.
Yeah.
Yeah, you said even if you hate me, I love you.
For real, because eventually you're going to get on with it.
You just don't understand it right now.
You know what I'm saying?
Which is okay.
I know it's complex.
I know it's a little difficult.
I dig it.
But I promise you, I believe in you, and figuring
Yeah, everything ain't for everybody.
Yeah.
Hey, man.
But I, we had a segment.
Come on what's up.
You ain't got no clothes on.
We can't even ask you.
What?
We had a segment called, man, what the fuck you got on?
And then you tell us what you got on.
You pop your shit the way you pop it.
I got Nike sandals.
Yeah.
Now put the motherfuckers on the table, man.
Yeah.
I got Nike sandals.
Yeah.
Actually, I lost my sandals and I wasn't going to come in here barefoot,
but they ain't want me to go barefoot.
So my cousin.
Lemayers and Slides.
Yeah.
I got my shorts on,
ice cream shorts, I got Supreme Underwear,
and a solid shirt.
But it got hot.
All these motherfuckers walking around this bitch,
I was like, damn.
You just took that motherfucker off?
Boom, got naked.
For real.
When you come to Atlanta,
you definitely gotta come fuck with us at the 85.
I would be more than happy.
It'd be an honor.
I'm gonna fit in my schedule because I wanted it.
Amen.
And much love and success.
To everything you got going on,
moving forward.
Lois, thank you so much,
God.
Shit, I'm gonna pull up
in the country part
of Texas to kick you with you.
You get over here,
I'm gonna have you blowing up pigs.
We're gonna be helicopter shooting shit.
We're gonna be fucking,
I'm gonna get you blue carpet, man.
You get over here,
we're gonna get down.
All right, man.
Hey, BETT Award,
2020.
Bigskin OT, man.
Hey,
okay,
and we ask me.
Peace.
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