The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - #BlackMarket - Culture Genesis & All Def with Karlous Miller & Chico Bean

Episode Date: August 9, 2021

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Starting point is 00:01:33 Are y'all ready to jump this off? You know it. Are you ready to jump this off? Let it do it. Welcome back to another rendition. I ain't even going to tell you what it's a rendition of yet. Because today is the day that we switch it.
Starting point is 00:01:52 Yeah. Like we started off doing black excellence. Right. Like now it's the black market. Yep. We didn't have had enough black. excellence that we created the black market of black excellence
Starting point is 00:02:03 exactly you feel what this is going right now bro we've been tiptoeing into the cryptocurrency and tech world and you know people who are tech savvy have been reaching out to us and trying to put us up on game yeah that's a good game to be here too
Starting point is 00:02:19 that's the way of the future so check this out guess who we got to hear with us today man one of them tech savvy ass dudes okay but he a hood dude but he know how to code. I already know. You know what I'm like? He probably know a lot of little stuff, too,
Starting point is 00:02:34 like how to watch porn and not get no viruses on the other kids. I don't know why you had to smut this man's name up off the top. I'm just saying those are the things that they don't get credit for that you deserve credit for. You know what's so cold about this dude, bro? It's like, we don't work with this dude
Starting point is 00:02:49 indirectly on multiple occasions. Indirectly, without even knowing it. Exactly. Man, without further ado, my man, Cedric. What's up, man? Thank you for coming and jumping in here with it. If you need to go Google them, it's Cedric Rogers. We introduce people like real-world introductions around here on the Black Morgan, man.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Because this is going to be the last time you see him. You don't really get to talk to the boss like that. He don't even like being seen. Like Batman. Come on, he got camouflage pants on night. He's hiding from something. What's up, said? Welcome to the trap, bro.
Starting point is 00:03:22 You know we're going to talk some shit. Appreciate y'all have me here, man. I appreciate you coming, bro. He finds out. Be in the trap. Love it. Man, tell the 85% man, give them a quick little rundown
Starting point is 00:03:32 to, like, how you got where you are and then brought it over here. Cool, cool, well, like I say, man, originally from Houston, Texas, like... Age town. Mo City, to be exact. Come on. Slow down and bang.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Shout out to Zero. All the way. You can't bring up Mo City and not bring up King Ki-Ran and Zero. Keyron? Yeah. For sure, for sure. Like I said, man, I'm from MoCity.
Starting point is 00:03:56 Went to No Kill, I,&T, undergrad. Okay. major electrical engineering. HBCU. Already, already. And so my focus was always technology. Always was in them cats that used to take shit apart, put it back together.
Starting point is 00:04:09 What did you start with? Man, you know the first one was a vacuum cleaning for some damn reason, man, I would go in. That's a, I was figuring. Because they were like black people, you got to get in there. When they belt break off, you got to get the butter knife. We got pop the little wheels off. Toaster.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Nah, I ain't fucking no toaster. That's level 10 shit. You know what I mean? Uncle's dad fucking with a toaster But this who I really got business with was a Christmas license shit I used to get home That shit, man That's when I knew I
Starting point is 00:04:36 Keep it real, you from old city You ever stole some electric? No Exactly, good answer That's what I'm talking about The cable, oh yeah Just a little bit till you got back on your feet You know how that go
Starting point is 00:04:48 Well yeah, man So that was always a thing I early on in life had a passion for technology Even though I grew up in this You know, you text, you playing football I ran track too at ANT So I was always, like, trying to do a little bit of everything, you know, while I was there. But, you know, that experience really prepared me to kind of go into a work for us.
Starting point is 00:05:06 So I just went to Apple. And so I started out at Apple really as what they call a system engineer. Yeah. And really kind of learning that technology. Because I started off as electrical and doing a lot of hardware. Brow, how do you get over there, bro? You don't see a lot of brothers that work at Apple, man. Real talk, man.
Starting point is 00:05:21 When I was there, it was, you know, it's been a minute now. But I was one of the few black people in that. So at what stage did you get into Apple? Like, which iPhone was out when you got this? iPhone went out, bro. It wasn't even iPhone. Oh, you was in there early. Okay.
Starting point is 00:05:34 With the computers with the color background, there had big ass on it. After that, you was after that, but before the iPhone. It was iPod. It was iPod. The iPod. The fat was, yeah, the big boy. Okay. So the big boy had just dropped and I was in there.
Starting point is 00:05:47 Them shit still worked, man. Still work, boy, that hard-ass, hard drive. Yeah. Denzel had one after the world ended on Book of Eli. He did What was he charging Is that? The same way he was charging him to-s
Starting point is 00:06:02 back in the day He's just an electrical engineer But yeah So I started at Apple, man And it was a great experience It was cool because he let me Stay here in the A So I was living in the A
Starting point is 00:06:11 And I would go back and forth Between the West Coast and here And so I worked there for several years And then I actually wound up Even getting my MBA at Emory So I was able to kind of Really get entrenched in Atlanta And during that
Starting point is 00:06:24 time, that's when I was kind of enjoying what I was doing, but I really wanted to do something else, right? I always wanted to be an entrepreneur. And that's why I met Paul Judge. So Paul Judge, folks don't know here in Atlanta, big time, serial entrepreneur, very successful. And he took me under the wing. And he was like, yo, man, you got the dreamer's dilemma. He said, either you're going to, you know, have the safety of building somebody else's, or you're going to take the risk of doing your own thing. And so I was just like, I'm about that. So I started with Paul. We actually created a startup called Look Live. We went through this kind of incubated thing called White Combinator.
Starting point is 00:06:58 So we had some success there, and I learned a lot from them. And then that's when I bounced from that in 2018 to create what is now the culture genesis. And so culturegenesis is what it was, is just a, or he is still today, a company that we said, we wanted to focus on the culture. We knew we wanted to take literally what we were seeing in tech, but applied to us. Oftentimes we're not thought about, right? It's always the white folks or anybody else that's kind of winning. So that's how we started with my co-founder, Sean Newsom,
Starting point is 00:07:29 and we started, like I said, in 2018. And cool enough, I got to know Jason Jeter, Tip. Grand Hustle Boys, right? So from there, they saw what we were working on, and they invested. So that was a big thing, too, I wanted to do was, like, have, like, the regular tech investors, but I wanted to have a culture, too. And, you know, with Tim, Jason, that was one of the things that they always wanted to focus on. like bringing that same energy.
Starting point is 00:07:55 Let me ask you this. Where does the culture and tech meet? Where are they in the spectrum? So if you read it, if you take a step back, I'm going to give you an example from my Apple Days and then right now. So if you really look at how the iPod really hit it hard, it was based on music. But if you look at all the music they highlighted,
Starting point is 00:08:12 it was always our music. And it was always showing silhouettes and showing people of color, right? And that's how, at the end of the day, culture leads in this country, but it also leads across the world. our culture specifically specifically makes everything dope and it's the way
Starting point is 00:08:29 that really adoption takes place in tech because we really look at tech dudes man shit you know we're carny geeky you know you're not going to necessarily hit it but if you had the right influences the right people that understand the technology and put it in front of the culture takes off so that's how it was in the apple
Starting point is 00:08:44 but I think today to answer your question it's like look at what we do in social media look at what happens in TikTok like right now there's a whole issue going on there that we working on. We talk about that later. But we actually make everything dope in TikTok. If we stop, it stops.
Starting point is 00:09:01 We didn't actually make white people cool. Right. Net-knit. You know how fucking hard? Yeah. That's true. For real. Like, to wear TikTok. A nigga had his shoes untied and made it a style. Right. And that's been
Starting point is 00:09:16 a style. It's just now you just, a lot of the things, and that's the question I have for you, a lot of the culture that we produce, been around for years but now since you have the transfer of information it's so fast you know you get stuff that look like it's new but it's not so how much of that do you take into account
Starting point is 00:09:34 when you think about putting out the culture like do you just deal with what's going on now or do you go all the way back do you have the open doors for people from you know maybe somebody that was cool in the 80s to come in and say an idea that you can translate now yeah I think that's I think everything is a remix to you to you that's the greater point right
Starting point is 00:09:51 it's a great book about this where it's like really nothing is new, right? It's really an idea that comes back with a little bit of twist and turn. Hell, the iPhone ain't nothing but an MP3 player and a cell phone merge, right? So it's just a mix of the two things. And I feel like in today's time, what we're seeing is like that's, you're right, it's moving so fast. It's a cycle. It's like instant sometimes. I was talking to Patrick these young brothers out of Atlanta. They were doing these dad jokes and they've been really catching on the a, you know, they're doing all that. But they actually took that from a white dude, which is funny as hell, right?
Starting point is 00:10:28 So, but the innovation moved. But I think where we can see a great opportunity is, like, bringing in people like you all, creators, right, because you all are seeing and understanding it's happening in the culture and merging with tech people. That's what really has to happen so that we can own it. Because, like, we're seeing it happen all around us, but we're not taking enough in the ownership. And so that's the big thing for me. How can we own more of this innovation?
Starting point is 00:10:54 You hear a lot of people talk about ownership, but talk about some of the responsibilities of ownership and what comes with the response. Because everybody say, own, on, own, but nobody really talks about the responsibilities that comes with being an owner. Well, I think the first thing to your point in ownership and responsibility, right,
Starting point is 00:11:11 is that you've got to truly understand it. I feel like oftentimes people reach into it with a very limited understanding and not understanding the impacts of what they're doing, the creations that they're making. right um and not crediting the true creators oftentimes that are really behind the innovations and i think sometimes it happens accidentally sometimes it may be maliciously but because people are moving so fast right they're not taking the time they're like oh i need a credit so-and-so or at least get so-and-so
Starting point is 00:11:40 or at least get so-and-so involved in the project because shit this is coming from some of their they're thinking from maybe 10 years ago or five years ago and i think that's the biggest responsibility to the innovators, right? We have to really take the time to like understand where it's coming from and bring those people in on the process. But I feel like sometimes that gets clouded because people are, they're on that chase, right? They're trying to get that fast money and oftentimes they don't do it. And I feel like that is sometimes the danger in technology, right? Because it just moves so fast. We got to figure out what we're going to do about the internet and all these social media platforms that are robbing black creators and
Starting point is 00:12:19 influences and just black people altogether. The culture. I mean but this is the crazy thing it's been going on but like you said just to transfer information you just see it. Now is the time where like the money is at the height of where it's ever been. It's so easy for motherfuckers to know where this shit came from. Everybody knows where it came from but it's like where the residuals. Somebody getting the residuals. To your point, to your point is that
Starting point is 00:12:45 the responsibility I feel like culture genesis that what we've now we've taken ownership of all death we have access to so many creators so the way we see it now is that we have a media platform we also as far as a network for media we have a network now for creators and i do feel like our responsibilities is to hop in there and represent the creators not trying to take my in their pocket but really going after up the check yeah to check right so how can i get all our creators who might be in some of our content their own channels their you know, influence it. Well, that's the thing about it.
Starting point is 00:13:21 They have to, as a white folks are getting. They got to up the check. They can't just wait on these moments to happen, and then you 300 million views up, and then they're like, okay, now we've got to figure out of pay situation. Well, that's what's happening right now. Exactly. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 00:13:34 Even with that being the case, how do you get us to stay with us? Because it's so easy with it. Like you said, you know, you have culture genesis, but if you bring in a group of young influences for culture genesis, and it starts to work, and then some major conglomerate, and say, hey, I got this, how do you keep that in pocket to say
Starting point is 00:13:53 this is more lucrative for us in the long run? It's not. Just sell it. They're going to get it anyway. They're going to get anyway. So here's how I look at it. So, like, there's actually some brothers here in Atlanta called a collab career, right? So they got all these young creators, like, they're all, like, 19, 20-something years old, all, you know, from the coach, right? And the way
Starting point is 00:14:09 I look at is, like, our responsibility is, like, to show them the game, right? Partner with them and help them get the bag. And then also making sure the corporations are paying them what they were. That's the thing about the game, though. It ain't no standard in it. You can be creating content and blow up on one small pocket of the internet.
Starting point is 00:14:29 And like you said, sign with some Russian tech company. And you'd be rich before anybody in America even know what the fuck you're doing. Walmart to pick your shit up and make you never know where these people are getting their sponsors. Like all these corporations reach out to who they like. So there is no standard way to say, okay, you got to work. watch these people like ain't nothing to watch Walmart looked out this time. I would say there's one thing that is happening that's
Starting point is 00:14:55 coming to our path is forced culture Genesis right? So like Facebook which includes Instagram, YouTube and even TikTok just last week have all come to us saying that they understand or they're starting to see it's a problem because they start to look bad
Starting point is 00:15:10 behind it right? Because they're starting to in their eyes they've been a problem for a minute but now they're starting to understand how bad it looks, to where you're taking down a black creator's content, but the same Asian or white creator's content stays up. You know, like, why is that? Or why is it the black creator not getting the same, you know, deals
Starting point is 00:15:31 that the white creators or the Asian creators are getting, or whoever it may be? It's just the same game, bro. That's just systematic racism. It's like you're going to waste so many time, so much time, asking the questions that you already know to answer to. So I don't have to go and ask them people, why, you know why. It's time to stop asking why. I think the only answer is it's just equity.
Starting point is 00:15:54 It's the same, to your point, it's the same conversation we have in, you know, anywhere else. So it's just like, yo, how do you give us our equity in the conversation? You got to stop asking to be giving shit. Yeah, just start taking it. Exactly. But you got to also have a structural, you know, balance that is able to deal with the ramifications are coming when you say, you know, what fuck are we going to take it now? You know what I mean? A lot of the reason why I think we can't.
Starting point is 00:16:18 go that route is because we don't have enough structure amongst each other to be able to keep it in a pop. Well, we don't have enough principle amongst each other. Nobody deleted their TikTok page. They're just going to sit there and wait on them to apologize and give them a new filter. They already told you
Starting point is 00:16:34 they don't want you on their app. Just go on Instagram with your black friends and let them have that shit. We got a problem with mass exodus on something. You know what I mean? On everything. I think y'all are doing it. So I look around who is trying to do it. I look at 85, I look at like Kevin Stades, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:16:51 Like, y'all are building your own direct-to-consumer experience. Oh, yeah, wait till I really get my infrastructure. It's titty's in every episode. Only reason I haven't because we use and they shit. When I get my own app, tithes. There's a whole section, T-I-T-V, Titties in the building. And then you could go to Magic City and let you. No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:17:16 I got my own titties. you need to learn about ownership but I was just like but no real time I think I'm just being the voice of unreasoning you got to throw that out there
Starting point is 00:17:32 it's actually right though it's like that's what I stand for is about building but it's unfortunately not as many of us still yet building the platforms for the creators to also tap in and have the ownership in
Starting point is 00:17:44 so that's what I was saying earlier we got to really partner together like you're saying Chico We'll come together and build these direct-to-consumer experiences so we don't need to go. Right. The next social media platform we get on, it need to be black-owned, and we need to be able to be black-owned. Let me ask you this question. How important do you think it is that because this, you know, a lot of this stuff that's necessary for the future is not being taught in our schools anywhere in America?
Starting point is 00:18:10 So, like, do you feel like it's necessary to start teaching these kids coding and how to operate these things so they can grow with it? And by the time they get to, you know, being adults and out here, they already have a keen understanding of the workings of it, so they can really start putting that effort into making the things that we need for us. Yeah, it's funny you asked that question. So, like, you know, Usher has Usher's new look here in Atlanta. And while I was living here full time, I would go there and do a lot of just that, right, helping the young people to understand.
Starting point is 00:18:37 It's like, it's cool to play the games, but you need to understand how to, like, break the game, how to, like, re-take-it-the-court. Oh, they know how to break the game. They lose. They break the shit out of it. But I mean literally coding, right? Learning how to code. My nephew's sitting out here, literally, he was like my use case for this.
Starting point is 00:18:54 Like, I taught him really about coding because I was at Apple, showed him what it was all about. And literally, he wound up getting very passionate about it, wind up getting a scholarship to Georgia Tech, but he actually got a ride to MIT. So he went to MIT and major computer science. Oh, that's dope. He's smart enough, not, yeah, he's know what to pick.
Starting point is 00:19:13 So he's now he's back here in Atlanta working in the crypto space. so he's big in that right so i think it is about us teaching the young folks right we got we do need to kick that knowledge back and i think it's not going to happen a lot though in the schools though cheek i feel like it's going to happen a lot of times in these like community organizations but i think that's important i guess important for us to use some of that revenue that we might receive and build to start to get guys like yourself and your nephew together to come in on a saturday and just had the kids and teach them you know what i mean like you said how to break the game because a lot of the information,
Starting point is 00:19:47 the information is being taught somewhere, but it's just not where we are. And I think that's necessary because a lot of these young kids are like, my daughter knows how to work the internet in ways that she's showing me how to do stuff. And it's just natural because you grow with it. So you have a different other thing.
Starting point is 00:20:02 You hear what he said? He's saying they want to set up a coding thing. Yeah, we got to. We got to. We got the black market. We got to, just to get the kids to come in. This is easy, and there's a lot of people I know that want to partner with y'all on this, right? Why do you ain't tell us?
Starting point is 00:20:14 Wait, you're talking right now, Bro, what advice would you give to the future black nerds who might be watching that? Those kids who, you know, those ones that they don't understand yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I would tell them, like, you know, stay curious, right? Stay curious. And Steve Jobs used to say this thing all the time. He would say, when you look around the room, you've got to realize everything in that room was made by no one smarter than you.
Starting point is 00:20:41 This chair, this table. You got to kick you with Steve, Your Honor? I did. Was he musty? Tell the truth. Tell the truth, bro. In love and memory. In love and memory.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He's going to put that out there. Love and memory. He, rest of peace, right? But he had got off that whole fruit diet and all that. Because I was on the second iteration of Steve. Remember, he was there, left, and then came back. So I was on Steve Part 2.0. Steve, with the shirts up in that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:10 So those is Simiaki black turtlenex. So he was, he was clear. He was clear. Can they hear us right now? Yes. We all got to ask you. Yes. Real tough.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Now, I thought you might not want to get into that too tough, but like, do you think that privacy is over? Is there such a thing as privacy now? So I'm going to say this publicly. Don't say the wrong shit. No, I'm going to say the right shit. I'll say what I know I can say. Publicly, I know that Apple really did put a lot of emphasis on protecting the data.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Here's why. You always got to look at how a man makes their money. Now, if you ask me how Google makes their money, how do they make that money? It's advertising and selling eyeballs. So it's not answers. And then you asked me about Apple. I thought Google was getting money off answers, my name. I thought it was all correct answers.
Starting point is 00:22:09 All about data. Now, NASA, ask me how Apple makes their money. Apple makes their money out for selling you hardware, the phone, the Mac. So they don't need to sell your data, your eyeballs, because they don't need, it's not a part of their core business. Core business is like at the Apple store. There's got all that hardware in it, and that's how they're killing the game. Now, they have their own software to complement the hardware, but it's not the core business. Facebook, Google, they're selling you to someone else.
Starting point is 00:22:41 so when you ask me about protection there's some companies that are focused on open and having your data flying all over the place and there's some companies that are not so as we sit back and think about that you can kind of make that comparable anywhere you go it's like are they selling my data or are they selling me or are they selling me a product
Starting point is 00:23:00 how can I manipulate the data that they sell it is looking at the phone and they like that nigga brush his teeth this moment like that type of privacy I don't know how I can manipulate the data to work in my favor. Are you in your house? What degrees you have your house set to? Does he need new toothpaste?
Starting point is 00:23:18 Because that's all data. Wow. I need to manipulate that shit. Because I wanted to be able to bring me the exact shit that I want. Like if it's going to be done it. But I'm saying. Amazon does that right now, right?
Starting point is 00:23:31 With the push button, bring you the product. Like, all these companies are getting access to your data and using it to sell ideas. We should have been talking, Yeah, it's even, it's even, it's even, you know, you, you are, it's to the point now where you feel like you can think about something that you open your phone and it pops up. So it's like, why do you think that is? I'm asking you, man, you know how to break the game.
Starting point is 00:23:54 I mean, I mean, real talk, I mean, like I said, these phones all have a live mic in them for the most part. So that live mic is picking up conversation. And that conversation can be parsed in taking to say, like, oh, okay, he's talking about this. And the next time you do your Google search, that shit pops up. Like, why is that? Or you open up Instagram and that shit is in your feed. Like, why is that? Like.
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Starting point is 00:27:16 The IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. Damn, you got to get a mess out of that. You know what I yell at my phone every day, so. So, I mean, it's... I feel like... I feel like they also do it through our content, which is back to core of what we do, right? So now that we're creating content,
Starting point is 00:27:37 we're engaging, you y'all got the 85% of us, right? Right. Y'all got them all jumping on shit you're all talking about. But, like, brands are trying to listen to what they like. Who's the core demographic, you know, that's coming to all your shows, come, listen to the podcast. You're speaking straight face.
Starting point is 00:27:54 I ain't even going to tell you who reached out to me. And I was just talking about them, and they was like, We want you. Yeah, they know food. I'll tell you. To here, to hear. What's on here?
Starting point is 00:28:05 What are you talking about eating quick trip, hot dog? Quick trip popped up. Oh, yeah. That'd be crazy. Now, that didn't happen to us a lot. We got to do one episode where we just named Brands. Brands. Just see them all.
Starting point is 00:28:16 We could do it today. I'm talking about just name all our favorite shit. Right. Cookie crisp, everything. Shooth strings. All types of shit. Boy. Just whatever.
Starting point is 00:28:28 Just hope we did, hold one catch. That's what it is. That's a smart idea right there. Bro, I'm talking about just about two hours of just brand-horring. Bring the Jericho back. Right. Hey, I think it's real. I think, you know, any day, like I say, I know. Bro, you took too long to get over here.
Starting point is 00:28:48 You should have been came over here and put us up on game. I'm happy to be here. I really feel like it's your fault. They go to Apple people. This thing is fucking out. Shouldn't have said that shit, man. The real time, I ain't gonna say, but there's so much, right? I mean, at the end of the day, it's like, I think, when y'all just related to just data,
Starting point is 00:29:06 just think about that shit for a minute. It's all data. You got the all-depth digital. Like, what made you, did you, did you have a passion for comedy, or did you just see a business opportunity to merge with what it is that you're good at? I have a passion for the culture, and all-deaf and how it was created was all about the culture, right? It stems back from deaf comedy. the gym as we know starting there and you look at what that show represented for us at that time
Starting point is 00:29:34 some of the dopest comedians getting their first looks and just like but it wasn't like a regular comedy show like people engaged all over the place it's like representing who we are um so for me when the opportunity came up I looked at it as you know 2013 Russell Simmons created who he was and has always been for the cultures I like oh this is exactly what we want because it wasn't just about comedy, which was the core piece of it all, but it was about music. It's about poetry. It's about gaming cannabis. Like we were like, how can we take the culture and put our twist on all of those categories? So when I saw that and I went to, went back to Tip and J.G. They were like, oh, yeah, this is a win. So that's what made us quickly pull the trigger.
Starting point is 00:30:20 And real talk, they selected us. Because after we had the whole conversation and had been working with them on projects prior to them going out of business, they said, like, we will, like, catch like y'all to kind of take this and further the legacy because we feel like y'all will understand it and respect it and cultivate it and drive it further. And so, you know, I give us that credit for understanding, but more than that, though, it was all the creators
Starting point is 00:30:47 that have always represented all-death. And more importantly, the core unit, y'all know them as a lot of the squad. But, man, like, I brought, I made sure to bring a couple of them the day, right? So who you got? I brought Meg, Scoop Thomas. Hey, what's up, Cuban, Meg? Come on.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Come on, you get, Scoop. Come on, Nick. Come on, Scoop. Scoop. Come on, let me have a fuck. Scoop. You're told, done. Who else you got?
Starting point is 00:31:15 And walk, of course, Patrick Cloud. Oh, man, this guy. He was a hot man. In the game. You remember that Budweiser commercial. and a dude had the dog on his head. I'm welcome. That's how we're welcoming it.
Starting point is 00:31:30 That's how we welcome to the trip. Thank you for having me. I love you guys. I appreciate you. I didn't know. You don't tell a shit. I mean, listen, listen, before I get back, before I get let them rip, so Meg, you know, Pat, and also even Kevin on stage, I don't want to miss that late.
Starting point is 00:31:50 Bro, they came through here. We laughed. Rifted it. Yeah. Shout out to the whole stage crew Tony the Baker That's what I never knew
Starting point is 00:32:01 Look at who you came See You know what I mean So when we took ownership It was like November of 2019 Right And real talk I had already been able to work with
Starting point is 00:32:15 Kevin and Meg for sure to hear Because of the other project we had going So I like, oh We were taking over like let's build this thing back up and they hopped in feet first right you know hit first too shout out the doughboy man
Starting point is 00:32:28 and teddy ray been down since day one day one man day one hell yeah so what what meg you know a lot of you don't realize y'all see them often as the talent but they don't see the boy goes on behind scenes and so man yeah because they're behind the scene she behind me
Starting point is 00:32:43 it makes shit if they're behind them if they're walking up to see it they'll release them so with Meg head of production like she's she's the mom of running everything around there and then of course basically a partner in crime is pat who was like all of them i know he was he was shooting the sketches and shit when i was out there we was in that remember we was out there early on that was in corbara city or yeah oh yeah hell yeah out there in the street with doboy and teddy
Starting point is 00:33:13 ray in the office in the office oh shit so how much how much as uh you know the i would say you the business side of it, how much do you involve yourself in the content side or do you just trust them to do what they do and you just, you know, is it like a situation where... That's a minute. That's me. That's how he really is. Yeah, I'm mean.
Starting point is 00:33:34 He'd be like, I let y'all do it, but what y'all doing? And then, or, you know, but he's really good. He's pretty good. I mean, he, because he understands, this is what we do. We've been doing it for all there for a while. So it's like, okay, I trust y'all's vision, but he still is like, he's very hands-on. So he's still like, okay, so I still want to know what's going on. He has really good ideas.
Starting point is 00:33:50 He comes from the tech. world so it's like combining you ever seen him fix some shit fire I don't know if a toaster I was gonna have all this knowledge and not fucking use it fix this
Starting point is 00:34:04 because we got this hard drive that's been crashed for about a couple years you think we can get your nephew on that bitch man because we got some people who put us on the hit list because some shows didn't come out
Starting point is 00:34:18 because the hard drive got fucked up plug me in to some people okay we got you might know what we could do all right then and pat what would you say on the uh just the creative process what you've been able to do lately
Starting point is 00:34:30 um I think it's really just about like making new formats and especially now that we're out here in Atlanta and we get to like work with so much new talent but also like new style you got tired of that LA shit you were like well fuck it
Starting point is 00:34:41 we're going to Atlanta with black people are free right right well first of $3,000 we're getting more than a closet $3,000 a month and be paying $3,000 a month of living the Trump. And you're like,
Starting point is 00:34:52 you don't have a child. You don't have a child. You're going to fuck with me now. Just talk about me, like moving out here, because I love it out here. It's dope. And it is way less expensive.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Like, LA is, and it's, like, people are, like, actually nice out here. Like, everybody sucks in L.A. Everybody's just, like, super mean and faith. But aside from all that,
Starting point is 00:35:12 just, like, talent-wise, like, we're just really excited to be working with, like, a lot of new people, and we're going to be out here, like, expanding shows, like, roast me. And just, like,
Starting point is 00:35:19 you can use, a trap whenever you need to. Hey, that's, that needs a lot. I know, we're looking at this, like, we like this place. We've been, like, running behind you guys. I'll be honest, I think. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's a very famous couch.
Starting point is 00:35:32 Like, we've been kind of, like, looking at y'all for, like, six, seven years. Just, like, because I feel like 85 South, you guys do things well, but it's also cool. And it's, you usually don't get one without the other. It's usually cool, but not well done or well done, but not that cool. So, you know, there was a lot of, like, um, Besides you guys, a lot of formats and a lot of businesses that we got to, like, look at and see how things worked. So, yeah, thank you guys for even having us. That's a fantastic.
Starting point is 00:35:58 I appreciate that. That's a show. Hey, man. You got your hoodie? No, my booty. Oh, I thought you said you got your hoodie. I mean, that one worked too. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:36:09 You got a booty and a hoodie. How about that? There you go. Living with a hoodie, okay. Yeah, we're gonna make sure we get you straight. But man, yeah, Atlanta, it's a different energy here as far as just creating. Like you said, it's new looks, new feel, new talent, man, take full advantage of it. You know, it's a lot of people out here who are definitely open to working and building and creating and, you know, being part of the takeover.
Starting point is 00:36:33 Like, roasting is just a southern. Oh, man, the funniest motherfuckling you don't find ain't going to have shit to do with comedy. Right. Just some dude walking down the street. Fuck everybody. Stupid-ass shirt. We love it. We love it.
Starting point is 00:36:46 We're trying to do combines out here. It's not like really out there yet. but we really want to go to different cities and, you know, shout out to Ronnie Jordan. He suggested the idea of, like, the combine. Like a roast combine. Yeah, but just, like, finding people in different cities that, like, you said, they don't have to be comedians
Starting point is 00:37:01 or, you know, it's just, like, a new way to kind of, like, get new people in without, like, filtering them through comedy or acting. Have y'all started the screening process? Not yet. Like, somebody dropped an email or something. 85% is going to send their clips in, bro. Oh, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:37:15 We'll have to be a wheelchair man, bro. Well, wheelchair man. He won't have a roast. Oh, yes. He works up. My hair, every time I get a new hairstyle, he's chic-o. Like, there it comes. It's just like those people, like, that's what this, I would say this city creates,
Starting point is 00:37:32 like it creates an environment where it doesn't have to look like Hollywood. When it's in Hollywood, it has to look a certain way. It has to be polished and, you know, professional. You know what I mean? And here it could be whatever it is. And that's what the culture comes in, bro, because we make that shit look good. Exactly right. I think that's the biggest thing.
Starting point is 00:37:49 thing, like, just being authentic, right? That's what it means, genuine and authentic to the culture. Right, right, right. Not being unapologetic about that. And I think sometimes, like, getting out of certain areas like LA and coming to a city like Atlanta, you can just kind of get in by. It's a good time to regroup, man, especially with, you know, the world slowly walking itself back, man.
Starting point is 00:38:07 So, yeah, hit everywhere you can go. It's, man, we'd be all over the place. I just was in, what, OKC? More black people out there than I ever imagined. It was for the Juneteen? Oh, my God. They literally took over. And be surprising, like, when we go to that,
Starting point is 00:38:24 I was just in Columbus, Ohio, and it just be like, man, we must got a direct connect to all the black people. But the white people that come, it's like, wow. I didn't know. We reached this far.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Brough. Last black show, you look like you watched this dude. Who knows? You know what I mean? I'm talking about. I'm talking about. I'm talking about you. I was like, where are you watching me?
Starting point is 00:38:46 Right. You know, I watch everything you put up there. And I always ask, like, do you know who I am? Or did you just want to do something dangerous tonight? You know what I mean? And they like, no, we love you. You guys are the greatest. I came to see you.
Starting point is 00:39:01 You know what I'm the same white guy acts. They'd be the same one. That's who there. I come up here two times. I come see Chico and D.C.'s up here. Nice thing you. That way? Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:15 That is kind of white. Yes. That's the beauty of technology, y'all. Because at one point, we wouldn't have had that reach to the houses where they could break down those barriers to see like, no, I like this shit. But see, I think a lot of it don't even come from the household. You got a lot of people that watch, like that part of it, but they're watching us on their phone.
Starting point is 00:39:33 So, you know, you might work with that dude. And he's like, man, what's that you always watching over there on your break? And, you know what I mean? That is getting introduced in that capacity. So now it just spreads. That's crazy. Just knowing that something. we're the only black shit in the whole house like they don't watch nothing else
Starting point is 00:39:53 not wild and out nothing 85 sounds exactly crazy they probably learn a lot from it too and I'm talking about everybody in the house quiet listening paying attention dog everybody we didn't got videos my dog loves you they don't give me fucking what they don't get the shit about the content it's the pace of the conversation No, that's not a joke Like, no, no, how many videos have you got The people are sitting their dog in front of the TV?
Starting point is 00:40:19 Man, the fucking cat, like, be sideways watching this shit like this. Y'all, y'all, real talk, y'all didn't get new videos that Tony and let them come back with a voice up. Oh, we'll start saving. Man, when you send them now, make sure you send them what we can save them, bro.
Starting point is 00:40:33 It's this one lady that had a house full of cats like 11 cats, and they were all of them. I don't know what it is, but animals fuck with us hard. New animals and newborns. But not for like the owners of the animals, they just turn the TV up. I don't even, I'm figuring.
Starting point is 00:40:51 They shoot the video. You know what I mean? That's their job, I guess. We get some strange shit, man. That's a whole show in itself. Just 85% of family. Somebody made us this. It's a whole rolling trade that holds the lighter.
Starting point is 00:41:06 It got splots with a blunter. Oh, my gosh. Look around and the paintings and all this stuff that people create and stand in, man. I mean, we didn't have had all sites and stuff, and that's the beauty of this, and that's the beauty of what you guys are doing, too. You create an element of just peace of mind for people that they don't usually get from places that they go for their entertainment, you know what I mean,
Starting point is 00:41:30 because they're not saying anybody that looks like them or that they identify with. But with us, we can create content where people say, I understand that because I went through that. I did the same thing, and that is, you know, something that we got to take it back. We try to take advantage up as much as we can over here. Y'all are doing a great job, bro. I mean, like, real talk. Like, I like giving people their flowers while you've got a chance to see him. I smoke my flowers.
Starting point is 00:41:53 I tell people that, getting the flowers, it's cool. Flowers, why you can smell them. Now, I want my money while I can see it. That's real, too. But now, y'all are killing. Y'all leading away. A lot of ways, y'all are innovating, seriously. Well, let's take it to another level.
Starting point is 00:42:07 All the way. I mean, y'all came here for a reason. You know what I'm saying? I'm saying. We both have these platforms. We both creating this content. Clearly there's a working relationship. Let's just elevate everybody's shit, man. You make it look good.
Starting point is 00:42:21 All the way. And it'll be an 85 all-deaf summer. Yes. Hey, I like that. You were just stuck in LA watching y'all from across the world. Like, all these people like Miami and New York, so it's a really dope to be out here. Well, let's put
Starting point is 00:42:35 something together, man. It's something we can work on while y'all is. Don't let this be the last time. y'all stop to drop some links, emails, whatever it is that y'all need to get out here to find these people that y'all looking for for the up-and-comments. So what can they find, everybody?
Starting point is 00:42:54 I'll give you all sense. Oh, I'm Patrick Cloud and pretty much everything. What's your TikTok? I ain't given out my TikTok. Yes, you are. You're getting on there, man. I'll just be on that bitch lurking. I ain't posed the shit.
Starting point is 00:43:08 That's creatively smart. Let me send this to cheat, though. No, I don't have TikTok, that shit won't open. But yes, he will. Click that bitch. That's why I get all my kids. Him and my daughter, I can't get on TikTok. My brother, the most anti-social media person you'll ever meet.
Starting point is 00:43:24 He'd be on that bitch just sending me shit all the time. Really? He's one you actually like, but he don't even have a profile picture. He just likes shit. That's how my mom. I'm on there. I'm just on there. Hey, I don't know how to work this shit.
Starting point is 00:43:35 I don't even want to give a fuck to figure it out. So whatever. I feel like a lot of people do that. Just lurking. And they use those to talk. I don't be fucking when nobody, I ain't said. I was on there. I stopped because I try to do a dance and I look stupid.
Starting point is 00:43:48 And I was like, I'm done with this. I can see that. I really just watch most of the shit that they use my voice on. Yeah, voiceovers, yeah. No, that's tough. That's crazy. Like, that's the part of it that when you're not on social media. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:44:00 Time we don't win viral. And I'm talking about, like, my daughter comes like, look dad. I'm like, I'm like, how did that get on there? Clips and memes and everything. Like, it's crazy. Like, just how fast, like, said, the transfer of information. Like you do something that it'd been made its way around the world three times before you do you get the clicking them threads There's always an 85 South show laughing a little clip in there
Starting point is 00:44:22 That's the thing y'all had that with all that too for a long time like them roast me's and you know I mean like uh what's my man name this shit is historic at this don't know that teddy red double cheeked up book a Craig, what is my man? Craig Smith, man, I love that dude, man. That niggas told the nigger that your mama shot a nigga doing the L.A. ride, bro. He told the Asians, buddy, he said, your mama shot a nigga doing the L.A. rise.
Starting point is 00:44:50 But after that, I was like, oh, I am a fan of that thing right there. Yeah, Bucabon. Bucabon. Yeah, Bucabon. Yeah, exactly. You know what I mean? C.P. And all these dudes that we, you know, we've been working with these guys.
Starting point is 00:45:04 You know, I've never personally made Craig, but Bucupon, I met the CP we've known for years. So it's just, we all consume each other's content because, you know, we're fans of each other. So it's like now that y'all back in the game and back doing it, it's like it makes sense to just merge it all and get some good shit that's going to last longer than we're going to last. Hell yeah, I mean. Hey, man, if you ever tried to trim your balls by yourself, you probably have cut your ball sack. Not with this one, though. It's time to bundle up with Manscape Performance Packed 4.0. Their fourth generation tremor features a cutting-edge ceramic blade to reduce grooming accidents
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Starting point is 00:46:44 At Meg Scoop And also at all deaf Okay And shout out to Meg She launched we launched All deaf women All deaf women And so Meg is leading that
Starting point is 00:46:55 With Cynthia Luciette Which y'all may know Yeah yeah Yeah we know Of course You know what I mean But see that's that's That's all deaf women.
Starting point is 00:47:02 You might have a group of deaf women that might feel like you're not identifying. You gotta put some on that. They might not hear about it, but. When they see all deaf women, you gotta have somebody signing on there. You go ahead. That's actually, that's a good idea.
Starting point is 00:47:15 You know what I mean? Because it's all deaf women, so without their representation, you know how that's a stripper out here too. Oh, wow. Oh, for real. They got the deaf girl that's a stripper. See, that'd be dope, you know.
Starting point is 00:47:26 That's good. That's good. You have to ask her. Right. That is actually. Yeah. They tell me. But with that in mind, though, poor minds from y'all camp, right?
Starting point is 00:47:37 Yeah. Yeah. We fought with them. Shout out for mine. And then my shit is Cedric J. Rogers, simple. On everything, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all that. We're going to post. We'll put it in there.
Starting point is 00:47:51 All the way. We're still rolling. Anything else? What's the next joint coming out? Well, we've been here in Atlanta shooting, roast me battlegrounds so i don't know if y'all seen that so y'all used to regularly seeing us in the classroom right battlegrounds is a one-on-one head-to-head and so we still got i'm saying that too that's when is that the one when y'all had my man judge uh uh uh or was that the one
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