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leaders, entrepreneurs, and educators from our community. The show tapes monthly at our studio in Atlanta, Georgia. To submit you or your organization for consideration, go to 85Southshow.com backslash black market I know I asked Ryan I was like you how did y'all dig me up out of the damn man bro you dope as hell yeah speaking to which welcome back to the 85 South Show

black influence spotlight bro we always got some dope people stopping through the trap you know showing us love and today is no exception we got a dope as creative we can't even say an artist

because it goes way beyond that a dope as creative human being, bro. I'm sitting here going through the bio like, bro, D-L did it all, bro. And you got a cold ass name, D.L. Warfield? You like that? Really, only Warfield.

I'm familiar with is Marshall. Come on, Marshall Warfield? Yeah, absolutely. You know what? I haven't met a warfield that I wasn't related to. Real? And it's a good, it was a wide receiver that was really good. There you go. So I know I'm related to him. You know him? And my son is a wide receiver. What's up?

Other Warfield? DL.L. Yeah. So welcome to the trap first and foremost, man. Man, I'm excited to be down here, you know, and I was definitely familiar with your show like I followed on social media, but I knew it was something that was super dope

when I told my son and his eyes lit up. Yeah. So I was like, oh, okay, so this is really the shit, you know. But I appreciate it. I'm glad to be down here. Brother, speak to what you said about your son. Brother, when his generation started embracing the show from us as a, like, not in the way,

It's like, you know, they're doing it. But when they came some cool shit to them, I knew it was going. This is going to be something that lasts for a minute. You know what I'm saying? Because they ain't even start coming to comedy shows yet, like his generation. Right, right, right. These are some fans. So shut out to the money you're going to spend with us in the future.

Young stick. Yeah, that's my investment. Yeah. But, you know, it's funny, I got to give you this because as soon as I told them, he was like, you know they're going to roast you on the show. So I was like, oh, shit. So I brought down a little peace offering. Okay.

So one of my dope teas, you know what I mean? That's dope. I was like, yeah, it's like maybe he will lay off me a little bit. I'll let you make it. You brought me something. When you bring gifts, you get to make it. Taylor, you mind adding this to the rack of things? You know, I like to have ambiance.

I'm going to hang it up as we do this, you know. What Taylor is, I'll be getting on her nerves. I can see it all in her face. She'd be like, right. I do not work for you. Yeah. She came in smiling, though, but I guess you might have changed the, attitude a little bit for it.

I don't talk to her that much because she's fucking me up. She's real quiet. I'm like, why you don't never say nothing? She said, why you don't never say nothing to me? Makes sense. I just walked off because I was like, you're right. You're right.

Yeah. But man, how did you get your start with, you know, bringing the creativity to life, the visuals, the art, the all of that, man? Man, one. Give me your first successful project. I don't give a damn if it was like second grade and you drew the doper's nils.

My first successful project, man. When I was in middle school, I won a logo design contest for American Can Company. American Can Company. I don't even think they're in existence anymore, but they were based in St. Louis. My godfather worked for them. And he was like, hey, we having a logo design contest. Can you draw something? And I was like, sure.

And so the slogan was, let's put management and workers on an even scale or something like that. So I did what you would think. I drew a scale, you know, with just, yeah, like a Libra scale with, you know, some management shit on one side and then some worker stuff on the other, and I won it. So it was like $500, you know, they probably should have paid me about a grand at least. Tell the truth, though, for you to be in middle school, that was a lick. It was a big thing. It was definitely a big thing, you know.

And so all of my successes, you know, I attribute to little marks like that. Like, it wasn't really anything big, but it was a coach. couple things. It was one, people opened up doors and opportunities for me. You know, that definitely happened. And I'm so thankful for all of the people that did, you know, that did it from art, sports, mentoring, teachers, et cetera. Like, I had a lot of people that carved out lanes for me. Right. And my godfather was one of those people that recognized my talent at a young age and brought something to me that probably most people wouldn't have thought to do for a seventh or eighth grader. Right. Now, and I saw you checking out some of the

the fan art, we always, you know, we rotated, but it ain't been rotated in a while, man, you know. You got some nice pieces. Bro, every show we go to, somebody bring us some artwork, like, and it's always people you never would expect to be artists. It'd be like a hood-ass dope dude. Like a dope boy, like, when you draw that?

Man, I was doing, I started back doing portraits in the pen. Right, right, right. And I'd be up through a little something again. Can we get a picture? I don't know why they always got that voice. Can we, me and my lady, we get a picture? Right. No, y'all have had that. We just, can we get You know what, like artists, man, we come in all shape, size and the color, so I think it's dope that, you know, former dope boys are not getting back into their portrait bag, you know,

that's awesome. This show been bringing the hood back together, bro. That's good. That's good. You know what, I think that's a great title, too, bringing the hood back together. So maybe that's another segment or a spinoff. Just bringing the hood back together? Absolutely.

We just had, like, a baby daddy and a baby mama on FaceTag. Mediate arguments or something. So he can come get the kids on Wednesday. Right. But a lot of people were hitting me on the inbox they didn't get back together with the baby mama and stuff

man, I'm not saying it's all our fault but we had something to do with it. But you know what? You could fix a lot of things through laughter, you know, and like me and my wife we've been together since 1985.

Right, you never even tried to get your mom. Right, right, right, right, right, right. His mama, his mama. Right, hey, but listen. Y'all grew up together. Yes, yes, since I was a sophomore high school,

man, but when people ask what the secret is, I was like, you know, because we can still laugh together, you know what I mean? And so everything else can go up and down, but, you know, like if you really enjoy being around that person. Yeah. So comedy, comedy can cure all kind of shit, man. We were about to talk about some art, but, bro, you

you've been with your wife for like 30-something years, man. How old are you? I'm 38. Okay. You got to give us some game on that, bro, because it's black men. We don't get a lot of black men that can give us some successful marriage tips or right woman tips like uh this is a whole another thing we got to discuss you're not leaving us okay okay okay so listen so i think that

one i mean when it gets down to giving relationship advice like the only uh the only person that you have to worry about your relationship working with is you and that other person so like my advice for you might not work but it works for me and my wife i ain't gonna take it anyway All right, listen, fuck it. Leave me. I'm fucking up. But you know, but, yeah. Fuck it.

You're going, she going through it with me first. It's not, we're not just about to be all in love. Hey, you know what? Hey. I need to know if you're here for real. I should drag your ass. Yeah, so you want somebody that's battle tested, so that's dope. And so I think, you know, my wife is definitely battle tested.

I mean, being with an artist, you know, is no easy task. Yeah, because people are weird. Absolutely. You're creative people are very weird. Absolutely. And I would say that, you know, I'm definitely weird. I just like different shit and I think differently. Yeah.

You know, but I think one thing that probably makes me a little different than a lot of artists is I was also an athlete. So I was like football and track and art. That was your way of letting them know you weren't on no nerd shit. I'm not an athlete. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it just made it. I think it brought, I think it brought me down a little bit because when you play sports, And when you have to do things like that

Yeah, it gives you balance And to me, everything was about working my ass off So sometimes I work my ass off and I win Sometimes I work my ass off and I lose But I just try to stay neutral about the whole situation I kind of approach art the same way Yeah Just it's about working my ass off

So creatively, what are some of your favorite pieces or things to create? You know what? I like doing everything, man You've been in the fashion Yeah. I like I like doing everything. You're hot.

You said nudity? Yeah, absolutely. Dunkin' Donuts. Yeah. Chicago Tribune. Yeah. And how's a book. You got a diverse.

This ain't all of them. I'm just running off a few of them. I think like some of the most exciting projects, you know, that your audience probably knows is like the stuff that I did when I was a creator, director at LaFace. Right. And so there I was in charge of like Outcast, TLC, Paint, Goody Mob, T-I, Tony Braxton. And what was incredible was seeing like those artists at the Genesis, like when they bring you what they think is, what they know is the best shit that they got and then they trust you to add a visual to it. Like that's an incredible, that's a credible hand. Or you just named a whole list of musical titans.

Right. like working with them early before the world like you said before the world gets to consume all of this great shit day about to drop it's like could you see the the superstardom in some of these people like off the gate

absolutely you know like it was different moments working there where like they would bring in the music and as soon as you hear it you would be like holy shit you know and at the time you know we were just thinking about what was great at that moment

not like what was going to be great 10, 20 years down the road. And so, like, when I look at some of those artists, just, you know, and what they went on to be become, like, I'm not surprised because they were great then, you know, but you don't think

about the long term when you're working on that shit. Yeah. You're thinking about being the greatest right now. And then you got you can't even really talk about it. You got to wait before, you know, it's true. Absolutely. Absolutely. I mean, people never really get the grand scope of how great and huge

TLC is and was like what was it like working with TLC? Man, working with TLC was great because they are, they just love creative shit and you couldn't go too far for them. You know, you could bring them any idea and

they were open to it and so I think that to me that was one of the qualities that really, really made them stand out like they were 100% about going against the grain, visual musically and everything. And that's the type of person

that I am too. So it was perfect. And so they were easy. I mean, they were one of the easiest groups that I actually had to work, got to work with. Who was the artist that pushed your creativity? Like, that really pushed you,

like, I don't know if I could be able to fuck with him. I would probably say usher. Really? You know, I'm so fucking looted, Usher, man. I mean, and it's funny, it's like, he's definitely a, a rethinker.

You know what I mean? Like, he's not super impulsive. And we've had multiple situations where, like, I've designed, you know what? It wouldn't be the last minute changes as much as it was to get to the finish. So an example, like, when I did the artwork for Here I Stand, I probably did 60 covers. Damn. He went with the first one that I sent him after I, you know, after I did all of those. And so the way that we worked, as soon as I designed that I sent to him, I was like, dude, this is it.

And he's like, man, I don't know. And so design after design, after the design, and we ended up going back to the very first one. Yeah. You know, and so I don't know if he was just fucking with me at times, but he was the one that is challenging to get him to commit to something. So you create these one-off pieces.

What happens to the other 59? Man, they get ready to become NFTs. Mm. Yeah. That would be a goal, you know what I mean? But they just sit in the vault. And, you know, like with most of the music projects that I have, I mean, I have

just files of shit, you know, from photo shoots to like whatever, so I have all of that, you know. Right. And so now I'm just trying to navigate through ownership and who owns what and can I release some of this material. You know, because I have my fine art,

which is like most of my main focus right now that I can definitely do, but if I can dig back in the bag and grab some of that stuff that's, you know, people never even seen, that I thought was amazing, you know, That would be an incredible opportunity. Do me a favor because you know so much about it.

Like you said, we got a very big, broad audience from your son and age to grandma and them age. Right. Who are some of the black artists that they should look up, get online, and check out? Black fine artists. Yeah, give us some dope black artists to go catch up. Oh, man, Kevin Wack, Fabian Williams, which is occasional superstar, Paper Frank, Gary Kelly, Thomas Blackshear

Throw some women in there Throw some women in there Give us some black women Artists, creatives sculptures Whoever do sculptures Whatever we want everything Man

Female artists I mean I'm just I'm just drawing a blank now But we'll get back to it You can just yell them out Yeah yeah Just random like I got Tourette's This is the trap

We have no format Tasha Yeah yeah yeah yeah She called Yeah That's a black man show, but you know what, like the, a lot of the artists that I followed in with Spire and SpireRourer growing up, they were, they were not like your most well-known fine artist.

You know, they were like people that I intern for, you know, and things like that. We'll check them out too. No, absolutely. So I gave you a couple, like Tony Wade, Mark Scott Carroll, Gary Kelly, like those are guys that really revolutionized things for me as an artist. That's dope, man. So any of your kids get into the art? You know what?

My daughter is a writer-director. You know, she just finished working on Spider-Man. She's super funny as shit, you know, but she's working at production, but writing and director. And my son is, he has my athletic side. He has some creative ability, but, you know, I have to try to pull it out of. You know what I mean? I understand.

Yeah. What about, you got kids? Yeah. Okay. Any of them funny? Well, my son is so sarcastically funny. Yeah. It is so crazy.

Yeah. That's dope. How old is he? 12. Okay. And it's just, it's to the point where I don't even want to talk to him. Because he's fully aware that I'm a comedian. So like you said, it's like, I think he think he has the right to be a comedian. I'm like, bro, I'm your daddy. Right. So y'all go back and forth. A lot. Yeah. But he's right a lot of time. Yeah, that's good. I think having those type of dialogues, I mean, I think to me, creativity is right next to sarcasm. Right. And it's right, you know,

right next to being a smart ass and so like in school I was always drawn to smart ass wise ass type of people yeah definitely smart ass like I always like he always go to my dad house right you know my dad old school Mississippi okay so

every time my son like get ready to get up get a snack or something my dad hit him with some old shit that this generation of kids ain't never used to hearing so you're like grandson there's some good cold water and now like every time my son come home anytime

somebody walked past the refrigerator, he'd be like, there's some good cold water in there. That's some of the funniest shit, too. That's dope, though, man. I think... In 2020, a group of young woman in a tidy suburb of New York City

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You know it's awesome to have those type of bonds with your kids You know what I mean And I think that Just to watch them grow up It's like they go to bed

And wake up be holding other individuals when they come down there. Yep. And then, I mean, he'll probably say shit to pull great bits and things out for you. Oh, yeah. The questions that they add. Right. And some of my, like, as a fine artist, like some of my best, most memorable pieces

have came through joking and talking shit. And so, like. What are some of your favorite pieces that you've personally done? I don't think we get to brag enough as a culture. Recently, yeah, recently I did a piece. it was, well, I do a body of work called the American Flag Remix. So if you look it up online, there's just one word

American Flag Remix. But I did a piece in that series called The United States that we built this shit for free. Oh my God. Yeah. Now that's the shirt. Yes. That's the movie. We can get Ava Duvenile on that. I can see it all ready. Hook it up. We're going to get

Brother Umar. I'm going to have to do some iterations in there. I like that. Can we write that? Let's do it. The United States that we've built. this shit for free. You get Dan Kaluah in there. He's very convincing. I want Jada Pinkett to come back on this one.

I want Lawrence Fishburn to land the motherfucking never connect. And just like all these generations of black people come from out of space and underground. Man, that shit gonna be harder than Planet E. I'm fucking with that heavy already. I think that's a great idea. Guess who else going to be in? Shocker Khan.

Okay. But you know, maybe she just sings the opening. You want her in it? I want her in it. I want her to walk out and give a speech. Okay. Like she's standing on a cliff or a ledge. And she's like, black people, we are here, but she'll do it better.

Maybe Grace Jones, too. Grace Jones. Grace Jones. Ooh. Grace Jones. Yeah. In the movie, Grace Jones and Naomi Campbell are sisters. Okay.

You see how I put that together. Is it a comedy or is it a drama? Uh-uh. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. It's more like Star Wars. It's like our Star Wars. Okay.

I think that's dope. It's got to be like 10 of them. Because we 10 behind our year. At least. Now, yeah, we got a little bit of catching up to do. Right. But I think, yeah, like that piece, you know, it was inspired by enslaved American, enslaved African Americans, transatlantic slave trade.

And the original piece is hanging up in the gathering spot right now. But like I wrapped this whole flag that I built, you know, which the front of it is a cross-section of a slave ship. And I wrapped the entire flag in like this chain that looked like the shit was from like the 1700s, you know. And it was like the most emotional. emotional heaviest piece that I've done, but I think that one is probably the run that I really put my all into it the most. You know, I always, you know, I'm always into like whatever it is I'm working on at that moment. But that piece, like when people see it, it's beautiful, but it's haunting at the same time. You know, I'm going to ask, man.

What was it like working with the dope-ass outcast, man? Man, you know what? Working with those guys, it was great, man. Because these niggas literally came from the future. Right. and came back to do this shit. Right. You know what man?

Like I remember like just having conversations with them just about like their concept of space, you know. And I remember talking to Dre about when he really made the flip and started singing about like things that came to him and his dreams and things like that. And when you end the moment and you're having those type of conversations, you don't really trip off of that shit. You'd be like, yeah, yeah, did you approve this logo? You know what I mean? But when you sit back and. you think and then you see like how you know they told

you something a year before they drop and how everything maps out it's incredible but like those guys are definitely geniuses man I mean I look at them like they're this era's version of like the Rolling Stones or some shit like they're bigger than

hip hop like they've transcended you know let me ask you this for the artist like in the music game or you know whatever how important is it to have that signature logo. You know, I think it's very important for one, two reasons. One, I mean,

you want to have something that somebody can recognize you instantly from, whether it's from a distance or whether it's from up close. You know, and then also just the longevity and legacy of merchandising. So, you know, like it's a shitload of bands, especially like

on the rock side that sells so much merch. Rolling Stones. That, yes, man, like that mouth and that tongue, I mean, then they license it. Absolutely. So it's, it's an, and kiss. I mean, it's an important thing to think about. Most definitely. It's a, but when you think about, uh, Arrow Smith. Errol Smith. Yeah. I mean, shit, the Commodores had it. Yeah. But when you think about like a lot of the big black bands and hip hop artists, like you can't name too many symbols. I mean, I'll cast has theirs. You know, run DMC has theirs. But other than that, like, I don't know who you could public enemy. You know, so maybe it's them three.

but I can't think if anybody that has that symbol than when you see it, it's like the Batman shit in the sky, you know? Yeah. And I think it's very important. That's dope, man. Like your backwoods, you know? Yeah, man, you know what? I'm a sucker for some advertising, man.

This shit was so dope. I was like, I gotta have it. Yeah, they did a good friend over there, backwoods. That's been making sure I stay with some fresh-ass backward shit that's throw with the Js. That's great. Yeah, that's great. And then it's shit out early.

Ain't nobody got this yet. So how long did it take you to coordinate all that? You just like... You see it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's red with the yellow to and then yellow and red. Oh, my God. So did you lay out two different jays or did you, like, have on the red?

Okay. That's how they come. Got it, got it. And I'm just putting them up so they'll know that they knew. Got it. So they can see that the bottom is icy and shit like that. They are clean. I'm putting their hands off on this show, man.

are clean, as you should. Yeah, it's my. Because if you look good, you get paid good. I didn't mean to cut you up. I just wanted to bump him back up and let them know

we're still in here with it. Jay Owen, play me some pimping while we're doing this, man. We got company in the house, man. He's gonna think we ain't

creative enough. Now, he was killing it earlier when he said his name. Don't boost his head up, man. Okay, okay, okay. The nigga named John, but he got us calling him.

J-O-N. Yeah, yeah, I was like, I was like, is it? I don't know, I was like, does this dude? I mean, he's like, nah, he got that in middle school, too. You got your nickname for middle school, right? Yeah.

I think you rock with it. Like, when God has somebody give you a middle name, I mean, nickname, you keep that shit. Bro, this dude is authentically one of the coolest motherfuckers you ever met. This thing that don't never get out of character. That's good. For real. I ain't never seen him yell, run.

I ain't never seen him in a hurry. This motherfucker is on one speed. That's funny, man. Hell yeah. Hey, so what are you working on? What's next? Like, what's exciting coming up for you? What's exciting?

Shit, it's all exciting because none of this shit was ever supposed to happen. So every show was exciting. Right now, the main thing that I'm doing since the world is so crazy and just to be extra safe is just I'm doing these tour dates with Mike Epps. Okay.

So, you know, we're dropping five or six days at a time. That's great. Just, you know, just taking this slow, you know, day by day, going back into this shit. Creating this, we're working on some animated shit, trying to get the Roach Motel. We got this cartoon.

Yeah, I was taking that t-shirt out. Yeah, man. We had some dope shit on the show, and the fans wanted us to bring that. Okay. We did a song because everybody had roaches. Got it. So we did one of us and exterminators.

So here's a funny one, man, for you. I mean, seeing just like connections. So a long time ago, man, I designed Nick Cannon's hip hop album cover Right shit never came out You're the dude we've been looking for

Because you should have told him Nah I just wish Now that shit never came out though I remember You know like I ran into him at an event It was like Grammy week And I was like hey man I designed your cover

He's like man I'll tell nobody about that shit You don't want nobody did not See this Yeah Nah that dude's so damn cool man He's a cool one too Yeah That's crazy though

It's a small ass world Yeah man Everything is connected And so I think, especially in Atlanta, I mean, you know, it's easy to run in and bump into, you know, a great opportunity. So that's why you got to keep your reputation tight. Let me ask you this. After working with all these people who are, you know, considered legends and, you know, Titans in the music industry. How do you pick now who you work with after having a resume like that?

Man, it's got to be like if I'm working on like a creative direction design type project, it has to be two things that are the determining factor. Do I love the music and do they got a budget? You know, because other than that, it's just like I'm not really into it. But if I dig the music, then maybe your budget don't even have to be as, like, a normal budget, you know? Going back to the music, tell me about you, a Tommy Boy day. Oh, man. I just love that Tommy Boy logo with the three-nivist party. Yeah, yeah, that was a good logo.

Man, so Tommy Boy, I mean, that got me and my wife to New York City. the job wasn't all that fucking hot I mean I was like I started the clothing line It's just the shit you do Yeah yeah I started that clothing line

But what was dope was being in New York City And especially like at that age And being able to freelance for everybody So while I was up there I mean even though work was like Kind of hectic I was freelancing for like Andre Harrell uptown records

Puffy and Bad Boy shit everybody that I can kind of get a meeting with you know and just the city the energy of the city at that time you know it it's one of those things that leaves a stamp on you and so I came from St. Louis which was slow moving like your boy yeah you know and then I and then moved to New York City so it was culture shock for me when I went up there yeah and one of the funniest things that I heard was like in the office people said you're not from here around you and I was like how do you know it's like because you always smile and I'm like damn you know yeah they don't like

they didn't like you to smile at least you know in the early 90s they didn't like you smile in New York City but they don't really have a lot to smile about this is this is true but at the same time they do like I see some of the craziest shit that I ever seen in my life in New York City that was just random you will and it'll be so normal

to everybody and it'll be right next like you can see the craziest shit right next to the most expensive rich shit. I mean, literally, like, right next to him. It don't matter. A homeless dude taking the shit eating a Dunkin' Donut. Yes. Yes. You shit right there, but he'll go

and wash his hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The dude's shit! Yeah, what about it? Yeah, I've seen that. Like, one time at lunch, I just seen the dude pull his pants down, he was shitting on the side of a building. Exactly. And he was still talking to him.

Yeah. How y'all was doing? It's another day at the office, man. Yeah. Let's double back on something that you briefly spoke on, these NFTs. Yeah. This shit is blowing up, man. Can you give us a better description of what that is? Man, I think the NFT, yeah, I think what it does is it gives artists and creators

the opportunity to authenticate whatever it is that they own and they create and then maybe get paid on it for longevity, right? Right. And so an NFT can be anything that people consider worth having, ownership, man, and keeping. So like this conversation right here that we take could be an NFT. You know, you put it up, and you have it minted, and you get your blockchain information, and posting on the site, and then you kind of up and rolling. But the shit is really, really crazy, and I think that it's going to disrupt a lot of business markets, you know. Let me ask you this for the struggling artists who may be watching, um,

What advice would you give to somebody who's super talented? That's, you know, having one of those, you know, those moments that you have as an artist with, things might not be moving. Right. Not to say that it's not good. It's just one of those things that you go through creatively. Trying to get your feet. I think that, like, most artists, you know, like, we really don't think, like, business, you know.

And so you could be an artist and you always painting and you like, well, shit, like, my shit ain't selling, you know. And so I think, you know, if you have in that type of run, and you're confident in your work you might have to position that shit in another lane. Okay, let me ask you this. Because I got this friend that's a dope-ass artist

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Get your tickets today. AXS.com. And so because of that, like... Break things down, Jr.? Yeah. Over there on Facebook What your dad is talking about Hey, I try to tell them

If you're an artist, you have to let the world know it Yeah, and so then I also believe Like a lot of times, just like in everything A lot of things in life, you've got to let shit go So that you can get to the greater things, right? And so like with me, like with all the art pieces that I've done over the years, like I don't feel emotionally connected to anything, you know, like, but

I feel emotionally connected to my ideas and how I came up with that. But after I finished the piece, as a matter of fact, after I think of the piece, a lot of times I feel like I won already. But then I got to go through the steps, which is the working part of the artist,

got to go make that shit, got to go paint that shit. Like, that's the work. But the idea is what I truly love. And so I think, you know, to me, like, I go through the process of, like, I got to get shit out of my sight so that I can have new ideas.

You ever seen some of your shit and wanted it back? No. no no no no no but you know what yeah no no never that but it's things that like that I've done that I didn't care if it ever sold or not because I really was you know I was digging it like that but other than that like I'm usually more excited to create the next new thing you know and so like when I'm working on things I'm thinking of other shit that I could be working like I'm learning from this experience to take to the next experience and so if all you're doing is looking at them same experiences all the time it's hard to get the new ideas man so when you get in your zone what are you listening to bro i listen to everything man i listen to well tell me some of your new favorite niggas the new rap niggas some of the young nigga what's the young thing you're listening to earth gang okay uh shit like from a rap standpoint i mean i like uh Travis scott you know is he is he considered a young okay I like

him. I got the craziest Travis Scott story. Yeah, I got it. We got to hear it. I like, I like DeMani Harris a lot. He cold as fuck. We got to give him on him. Let me tell you this Travis Scott story. So we had the BETT Awards. Everybody outside, like all the people who

performing outside, all the rappers and shit, so it's like, this right when his shit was super on fire. Right. He'd get ready to go on stage, right? So he'd come and like, I think he was on like a truck or something shit. We were walking to the load up. Bro, this mug, he walked and, like, slipped and popped his fucking kneecap.

Oh, shit. On the way to the stage, and I'm like, oh, shit. He's supposed to be first. He, like, toys ACL or some shit, right there in front of me. I'm like. So what did they do? Nigg, they fixed it. I mean, not his leg, but they fixed the performance shit where he had, I think he kind of just, like, laid on some shit or something.

But I know he left right after that. That's crazy. He fucked this shit up. Yeah, that's not good. It was, like, right in front of me, too. So he walking and he missed the step or some shit. His leg gave out, and I was like, oh, somebody get this man. Damn.

I'm not qualified to him. That's funny. Superstars. But I think, like, young, like, is, I mean, is Jay Cole considered young? Yeah. Okay, young. I mean, so, I mean, I love, like, him. I mean, obviously, Kendrick Lamar.

Right. I mean, I like motherfuckers who can, like, rap. For real. And so that's who I mean. You got to give some of the other guys a chance to, some of the ones who are not necessarily great. rapist. No, no, that's what he puts me on like, yeah, yeah. No, yeah. So my son, I mean, he's in charge of curating those playlists for me. But he put me on like, what's the young guy out in California

or Roddy Rich? Like he put me up on Roddy Rich. Yeah, I mean, that's what I mean, he's singing that shit. Roddy Rich, cold. Yeah. But I mean, it's in the ride wave. Okay. He's a big dude, right? Okay. Big singing thing. Rod wave. Put that down stick. He know right way. Yeah, oh, he got it. Oh, okay. And then. Rick want to hit some real aggressive shit. Like, NBA young boy. Okay. Yeah, that's his, that's his guy, too.

I don't know what he did to the next generation. Okay. He is the Elvis of his time. And I like, and I like little baby. I think little baby, yeah, I think little baby's legit, you know. But some of it, I just can't. I'm like, damn, I'm not getting, oh, I mean, I am. Oh, shit, I'll be 53, but, uh, but yeah, some shit, I just like, I can't even.

Yeah, we get too hard on the young movie, you know, fucking move. Huh? We'd be too hard on them. I'm not hard on them. You know, it's like... I'm saying our generation, like... It's hard on them. The generation right in front of the guys who are hot right now.

Right. They were like, man, they ain't got no lyrics. And then you're listening back to stuff of this shit. We can listen to him. Like, that man's crazy. I mean, yeah, I was, I was, you know, the other day, I was just listening to shit like the fat boys and like the skinny boys. Like, they came out when I was like a junior in high school, like in 86.

But they weren't really talking about. shit either. It was just like kind of like party raps, but we loved it. Yeah. The fat boys definitely wasn't talking about shit. Yeah, so I mean, yeah they're cold. Yeah. And so, you know, everything, everything goes in cycles. I just know like the musically

what always moves me is the storyteller. Yeah. You know, and so like when I think about you know, like Andre 3,000's on 16 ain't enough with Rick Ross, you know, I'm like, shit is that like if that, if those bars,

of the standard, you know, and, like, you know, shit, Tia, like the Libra album. Like, I love that fucking album, you know, by tip. I decided, by the way, but. You, I don't know. Yeah, but, so I'm just, I'm into that. I'm into the stories. I want shit to take me places. The coldest young, new storyteller, nigger is, well, he's no longer with us, but King Vaughn.

Okay. That nigga gave you every detail. Okay. In the car, with the radio on, listening to some music, Erd's song. I didn't like this shit. You know just how I do it. I'd be like, nigga, he gave you every detail. That's funny, man.

Yep. I mean, I love Nip. I love Nip. You know, I guess he's a young guy, too. I love this stuff. I love the way Nipsey rap. Nipsey rap, like you was with him earlier. Yeah.

He's just reminding you of all the shit y'all did. Yeah. You know, it's funny, man. Like, the way that he raps, but I agree. The way that he raps, it reminds me. And this is way off to the left, but it's a book. I don't know if you read it. It's called Relentless by Tim Grover.

I will. But you got it. It's called Relentless. Relentless by Tim Grover. You will finish that shit in two days. And Tim Grover, shit, he should be paying me for his advertising. But Tim Grover was Michael, no, he was Michael Jordan's trainer when Mike was in the NBA. And then he started working with Kobe and Duane Wade.

But the book is written as if you're sitting right next to them on the bench. And they just talking through shit, it's dope. But it'll get you, if that shit don't get you going, nothing can. You know, it's a great book. That's what it's up, man. But it reminds me of Nip when you read it. I mean, it's, you know, because of the quality that you said, it's like you write with him.

You know, it's the same thing. Because sometimes Nip, it just throw a bar in there, and it kind of sounds like he is talking to you. Them your pills, this is my weed. I was like, okay. Talks with that, man. Bro, we got to collab on the project, man. Man, I would love to, man.

I mean, I've been doing a few collaborations with different musicians and artists. We did no comedians, though, bro. No, but let's fucking go. That's what I'm saying. And then I'm the type, like, if we say we're going to do it, we're going to do it. We ain't going to meet 15 times.

I'm going to call you. I'm going to be like, yo, you got that shit? All right, send it to me. That's what I'm saying. It's like. I'm a hundred, I'm a hundred, y'all hearing this right now. I'm 100% in, so whatever is you want to try. You know why it's got to happen?

Why? Because your son is a fan of this show. You think he's not going to let that shit happen? Right. Right, right. Shit. You know. That's crazy.

I got a, you know, I got to have him as my project manager then let him manage this process. Yeah. You know? But yeah, but we could, I mean, whatever it is. Like, don't think here, we got a whole other setup that we're going with. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

We would definitely want to get some real dope shit in that. Mm-hmm. Y'all need a big dope box, actually. For real? Mm-hmm. Like, I make these dope boxes that are like a table. Oh, no, this shit is fly, too. This shit is fly, yeah.

My partner, man, he did. That shit is dope. He did a great job. Tell me more about this dope box. What can I see it? Man. Is there a site where people can hit you? Yeah, actually, yeah, so if you go to D.L.warfield.com,

everything is on there, you know? My Instagram, my Twitter, everything is just D.O.warfield.com. I'm on it. I'm about to get on it right now because, you know, I'm building me a man cave right now. Where at? At my house. Okay. And that shit you said.

I like that, that box shit. Give me some more detail on you. Man, so I started doing the dope series, like, in 2014. And obviously, I mean, everybody knows what the word dope means in hip-hop vernacular. So it was something that I've been saying since, like, 1981, really 1982. And so I started making these pieces. And the very first piece that I made was for a fundraiser for Chris Kelly's foundation. Okay.

And so he had a, I mean, yeah, from Chris Cross. Yeah, you got to tell these folks, but they don't know. Chris Cross, all right, yeah. Who was Chris Kelly? Right, right. No, Chris Cross. Yep, so I got hit up from a young woman named Angela Watts that was curating his, an event, a fundraising event for his foundation. They asked me if I would put work in the show to help raise money.

I think it was for either cancer or leukemia. Right. I was like, yeah, but then I didn't have shit that was hip-hop related. So, you know, I started doing these pieces. It just said dope, you know, and they all sewed. And I was like, well, shit, like maybe I should keep exploring it. So since then, I mean, I started, it went from making two-dimensional pieces

to actually building boxes that say dope all over that you can sit on. We have some that sit on the table. And then from that, in 2019, I did an event. It was at the Whiskey Blue, where I invited six of Atlanta's top photographers to come out and shoot people sitting on my dope box. And so we created this whole series called Sitting on Dope.

And so after they did the photos, the plan was to do a follow-up art show of me making artwork from the photos. But, you know, COVID hit. So I have all of these assets, you know, that eventually I will do a show called The Dope Show. You know, so I did collaborations with photographers. And then I did collaborations with artists like my guy Fabian Williams, Hobo Inc., Paper Frank, Melissa Mitchell, Jeremy Brown. you know, and a bunch of others. So at some point we're going to do the show because everybody has to see all of this work

and all of these collaborations together. And the thing that I like about that dope series, the best, and even when I first came up with the idea, I thought it could be a great mechanism to get artists to collaborate, you know? Because, I mean, I don't know if it's like that, like this in comedy, but a lot of times I think artists really don't work together that much.

Well, you know, comedy is such a sense. solo sport. Right. Unless it's a movie or like a sketch or something. Right. I don't really see

too much collaboration having. Okay, so, but as far as you writing your stand-up, is it just you or do you work with other people?

Well, it works like this. It's just like, say everybody has a circle of friends trust. You might show up to the club and do all this

new shit that you wrote and your partner might give you the best tag. Right. Don't say that. Just throw this in that. Oh, you know what you should say?

Right. That's the way that comedians collab or when you see us outside riffing or Jonin on somebody and it's like that's how we keep the flex the muscles flex yeah and so uh like all of my best creative ideas that came from Jonah you know like I mean uh comedy man it is it is fueled so many um ideas the spontaneity of it being able to think on your feet and so even like with a lot of my artwork just the wittiness of it like when I explained that you shit. People like, oh, shit, you know.

See, when you said that, it's like the wittiness of the comedy, to me, as a performer, as a comedian, it's like, fuck the jokes that I wrote, right? Right. Like, all the laughs that I get in between jokes that I wrote, that's the real comedy. Yeah, because that's the motherfuck's like, oh, shit, you know?

The joke I wrote is supposed to work. Right, right. No, I feel you on that. I mean, it's like watching a movie and you laugh and that's some shit that's off to the left. Like, you know, the scene is here, but it's a motherfucker back here doing some crazy-ass shit and you just see that in life?

Just like the black dude on Robocop. I don't know if people remember that one scene on Robocop where all the cops was rolling out and they was hitting the corner real hard about 20 police cars and there was a black dude selling hot dogs

and he just looked up. He was like, they're going to kick somebody else. Classic most hilarious scene album. Yeah, yeah, because the shit is so off to the left. Right? Yeah, yeah. That was his one life.

Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah. So I did a, uh, In 2019, I did a show at Wish Gallery, you know, a smaller spot. But the whole thing was really targeted towards, you know, Gen Z, the Millennials. And it was called The Million Likes. And it was based on America's, well, really the world's fascination of just, like, fame and celebrity of losing their soul. And so I had a lot of those pieces in there that was speaking directly, too, like, giving you, like, those witty shit.

Like, at first you don't get it, but then you're like, oh, shit. Like, that's what he's talking about, you know. So that's fun, man. And, like, you have, like, your crew that you, you know, that you bounce things off and riff with. Artists work the same way. I mean, I have guys that I could be up at 1 o'clock at the month. I call, yo, Chris, what you think of, you know?

See, I'm that guy. I call everybody way too much. Yeah. But that's good. I mean, I, and you got to have those, you know what I mean? Like, I, when I was in art school, like, I remember at the time when my teacher was telling me about the value of having, like, studio-making.

Yeah, and at the time, I wasn't really tripping off of that shit, but when you get out and when you're working and it's just you with that one light on at 2 o'clock in the morning, you kind of wish you had people to bounce things off of. Yeah, and people who know how to respectfully do it. You know what I mean? Right. It's like, some people like to take over your ideas.

And I'm like, well, shit, you ain't do it. This time I ain't finished with it yet. Let me finish praying. Right, right. Let me finish cooking. Yeah. Yeah. You can always tell when they're about to steal your shit, though.

This is what comedians always say when they're about to steal me. I got a joke like that. Bitch, no you don't. No, you don't, bitch. You don't have no joke like that, bitch. How you got a joke about my surgery, bitch? Right. I was fit to have a surgery.

You're the fucking laugh. You're the lying, motherfucker. That's fucking funny, man. Drop their social one more time. Oh, yeah, the social. D.L. Warfield. just you could find me everywhere just you're putting that name up yeah or you could use the hashtag deal warfield did this and all kind of shit come up because I can't even remember some of the

shit that I did well look bro I notice your introduction to the trap yeah but definitely don't let this be your last time you see what we put down no you know what I'm like this uh that t-shirt right there the cream long sleeve shit I mean I like that shit is cold yeah not saying in the other stuff ain't but man as soon as I seen that I was like oh that's that's that's that's That's a great piece. That's exactly what we're doing. That's a great piece. That's not even our lane.

We're comedians remember. We're trying to figure this shit out. Hey, but you know what? I think it's beauty and not having all the fucking answers stuff. You know what I mean? I mean, I've done a lot of things, but I know I don't have all the answers. And so I think to me that is Ed Litt, I mean, aided my longevity. Because I'm always trying to figure shit out and I'm always curious versus me sitting, well, I fucking know everything.

and then you don't learn shit else. So I'm trying to figure that shit out, too. Man. Well, there you have it, folks. That won't be your last time, but we're going to be looking forward to getting a project in here in the future. 85 South Show, Black Excellence, my man, D.L. Warford.

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