The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - #BlackMarket - How To Sell Art! with ZuCot Gallery! w Karlous Miller & Clayton English

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I'm showing. Yes. Yes. Highlights. Oh, we do a deep today. We get real artistic in the gallery. You understand? This is a gallery?

This is a gallery. Oh shit. Hold on. Hold on. Hey, man, put that cheese down. All right? Put that cheese down. Turn down the house of music, please.

We're getting real artisan today. Oh, for that drink of wine and cheese. Hey man, first and foremost, I got my dog Clayton English in here. You already know it, man. Salvador de Mingo. Yeah. Buenos Dias. Yeah, you know what it is.

Yeah. Welcome back, bro. Yeah, man. Good to be back. You're doing big things in life. I can't even talk about them. I know it. But I know.

I can say it to you. You can say it to me. You're doing great. But say it with your mind. Nick. This text messages. Brough, we got some very dope guests in here with us today on the Black Excellence Spotlight.

Brough, please introduce yourselves to the 85% of us so they can make sure they got it right. Because this dude named Crazy as Hell. My name is Onajey Henderson. See, when he said that, I was like, say, what name is Monsu? Hey, bring him Monsju. Oh, Nagee.

That's dope, bro. Appreciate it, man. I'm Amari Henderson. Yeah. And we're two-thirds of the owners of Zuckeye Art Gallery here in Atlanta. I love it. I'm Carlos.

I'm one-third of you. I'm one-third of the shit that'd be on this show. Y'all fans, y'all watch the show. Watch it all the time. So you already know, man, this is what we use our platform to highlight dope things that's going on in the community amongst us. So, man, tell us more about the art business and how y'all got started and all of that,

the good background story, you know? Yeah, so I'll start. We got started when we went college. We grew up here in Atlanta. See, I was going to let you start, but you skipped, you skipped so much. You ain't told them that's your brother or nothing. All right, yeah, this is my brother. Who's the older brother?

I'm the oldest. Right. Yeah, so I'm the older brother. This is my little brother. Little brother. It's always like that, ain't it? That's the good if your parents get better insurance because they have children. Yeah, so them lads kids, they're like, good, problems, I'm like,

we just had to make it. Yeah, you had to make it when you go. I'm a small person in my family because I'm the only one that was born on public assistance. My mother had a job with the rest of the kids. My baby brother, like six, five. Some stupid shit.

Yeah, big. He was a complete shack in a movie. The little brother healthy and shit. So we started, we grew up here in Atlanta, grew up in Decatur right off Calder Road. Yeah, so we went to school. We went to Tuskegee and...

HBCU, man. So when we got to school, we both got scholarships to go to college. And when we got scholarships, engineering, we both majored in... I majored in chemical engineering. He majored in mechanical engineering. You see how you skipped the whole high school

how y'all was smart and shit? When went to Magnet? We went to Magnet High School. And when we went to college, My dad, who's also an engineer, he's an electrical engineer, and who also went to Tuskegee, so did my mom's family legacy. That's dope enough right there, bro. Because that break down so many stereotypes of what they're not saying about shit like this,

your whole family didn't went to college. Yeah, they went there and graduated. My kid going to be like, my dad went here. My dad said he went to fail. This is the school you quit. That you were close, bro. I saw your trans group. You were doing it.

So when we went to college, we got those scholarships, my dad, who was an artist, decided he was going to quit his full-time job and become an artist. He was going to quit his job. Yeah. He jumped in. Just to be able to put your dad and be like, y'all good. That's exactly what he was. Yeah.

That's exactly what he did. Bro, I want to paint some shit with my feet. I did my job. I've been working 30, so I did my job. So, y'all grow. Y'all grow. So you're straight. I mean, that's pretty much how it happened.

That's what I'm laughing. So we, you know, what we did was he started a company then to just kind of sell his work. And when we graduated, we took over the company to sell his work. Right. And now, over time, we started working with other artists, and I'll let you take it from there. Hold on. Let me ask you out this as a group, though. Like, how important was it, like, to go to have that HBCU experience? Oh, man, you can't, man, I don't think you can even put a dollar amount on it.

I mean, to be at the HBCU, to have the support that you have when you had the HBCU, to have the friendship, just all the people you meet while you're there. Like, the people that I was roommates with when I started, I talked to them every day now, you know what I'm saying? So you don't meet people like that along the way. So that, the support, and they, one thing they do at a HBCU, man, it ain't easy. So they get you ready for the world.

So they get you tangible. Yeah, yeah, that's what it is. Yeah, talk to that, girl. When I first got there, I thought I was, you know, you think he's smart. And they were like, all right, everybody, no calculators for the first two years, you know. And it's like, we're going to show you how much math you don't know, you know, stuff like that. But the other thing, too, is like seeing you still got everything you see everywhere else. They just happen to be in college.

So you still got, you know, folks selling dope, you know, on campus. You got all the other stuff happening. But it's just showing you to do the, just how wide of a range of black folks, we exist in all these spaces. But we all can still be smart. We all can still go to school. You don't have to be a certain way With this ex-gang members Everything was in at school

You know what I mean It's like a black world And I think being around a black world And you're going to get all these negative stereotypes You've heard your entire life about you And how you're not going to survive past I think when we were growing up It's past what 20

Then it became 25 We're endangered species All that kind of stuff And you start seeing all this And those same people who came Who may came in that way They executive companies now You know what I mean?

because HBCs are spending time with you, too, and they'll make sure you get right. So by the time you leave at the end of that four years, what you used to be is not what you are at the end. Man, let me see that dope-ass hoodie you got on. Custodian the culture. Explain that a little bit. So one of the things we talk about in the gallery,

or just in the art business in general, is that we all need to be and have a responsibility to be custodians of our culture. So when we talk about it from an art standpoint, we say that the art that you purchase today, we have a responsibility to collect our culture. So we talk about collecting art. And it's our responsibility to collect that, to pass it down, to create value in it. It's our responsibility to do that. And the art's going to outlive all of us.

So what's going to happen is it's going to move from generation to generation. It creates generational wealth along the way. It has an intrinsic value because it's going to mean something to you. Okay, okay, I have a question as an artist. Yeah. What did you get your point of view? I mean, as an artist, we all see the world in different shapes and forms. What helped shape your point of view as an artist?

The thing is, with, you know, with being in this whole space. Yes. We don't want to, we want to take that stigma out of art. That you have to think, that you've got to think. about it like yes we want us to be i like it i like it's autistic to me we want us to be just comfortable with it and make it a part of our daily life it is you know so the the way we kind of cultivate that is we say we all want to be these custodians of culture because while we're here on the planet we have a responsibility to own our culture right right we don't we don't

pay somebody else to go and see it that's what's happening now most of the stuff you think about when it comes down to people collecting work right now African-American work is not being collected by us. It's collected by everybody else. So what happens then is that what typically happens in our community in general, we create something, then another community goes out, monetizes it, and then sells it back to us.

Once they validate it, they'll tell us it's good. When we created it to begin with, they sell it back to us, we buy it from them. It's the same thing that's happening in art. Good stuff, Blackth, man. Exactly. Yeah. And then we'll go by.

Then we say it is. Matternaker tastes better since you taste. Right. Oh, it is? I saw that a while ago, but I didn't know it was good. Let me ask you about this, though. Y'all both say I have a background in engineering. Like, what was that experience like being a black engineer?

You know, it was. Or a black man with it, you know, engineering field. In school, it was very different than when we graduated. So we got out of school and went to work in corporate, and now you're the only black person. Right. So you go from being where it's like all black people and now you're the only one. You're kind of trying to represent for that. And but being an engineer in the beginning and engineer like both of our careers while

we were working corporate kind of moved away from engineering. You get into more business stuff and stuff later on. But doing that, it was always trying, you still have to go out and you got to prove yourself because you went to an HBCU. You know, people looking at like, can he really do what, you know, can he do what I did? I went to MIT or I went to Georgia Tech. And then people start finding out, you're just as good as they are.

Even though you went to this school that they've never heard of. So it was one of those experiences where you were prepared. Like being an engineer from Tuskegee, we were prepared for all this stuff. We were prepared for business. We were prepared for that corporate world.

And so it made it easy to get through it, but you still had those hurdles of trying to prove yourself people along the way in that space. So would y'all say artists consider the family business at this point? Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, that's what's up. Definitely. That's what's up. Y'all have kids? Yeah, I got, I have three. The artists, too? Yeah, the two. Yeah, yeah. Keep that shit in the family. Yeah. Yeah. So tell me more about the gallery though, the actual. So in like, so we, we partners, so our business partner,

Troy Taylor, we met him along the way doing exhibitions and things like that. We met Troy, and then we did an exhibition with Troy. Troy already had the gallery. And after the show, a successful show, and we specifically worked with African-American artists, artists of the African diaspora. And so after the show, you know, we were talking back with Troy, and Troy's also engineer. And he was like, you know what?

And life is important to do well, but it's more important to do good. I want to do good with y'all. And we formed a company called H&T&T. art partners. So we took our business at the time, which was Premier Art, and his business, Zuckeye Gallery, created H&T art partners, and then we all became business partners inside the

gallery. And now we're the largest Affirmary Gallery in the Southeast. Let me ask you this. That's right. When you say it was a successful show, what does that mean for the people who don't know what it is to have a... So when we said it's a success, now I'm talking about straight money like sales. Like we

sell work. Because when we first started all this, like when we were going out, You know, when we first started, we were using our corporate dollars to rent out gallery spaces. We say, look, give us three days. We'd be up in Buckhead. We'd be up Miami Circle, those areas over there. We'd take a gallery. We'd say, look, we'd take down all your stuff.

How much would it cost us to have your gallery for three days? We'd go in that first day and hang a show. And then we would invite all our friends at the time. We were in our 20s, right? So like 25, 26 years old, nobody was talking to us, though. We all had money. We bought our first houses, all that kind of stuff. And nobody was talking to us about this stuff.

You go into a gallery and nobody even speak to you. so it's like well we know who our market is it's us right and it can't nobody talk to us like us so we start selling work and that one week in artwork artwork it's art work

that's art work you're right but you know you can use drugs in art as long as it's art you can paint with cocaine long as it's not a cocaine based paint That painting ain't going to last long

You're going to put that bitch in a thick-ass Bro, let's get you this Bulletproof This on some black man shit What's some of the coldest art You have seen That the world should have That you think the world should have seen

Is it like one piece that you'd be like I can't believe There was only one of them Well you know because everything is One of a kind That happens all the time In the gallery And you always find something that you love

We got a lot of artists in there now My biggest thing is we try to pull in work That I think at this point Other people are going to like and buy So like the average price point in the gallery It ranges anywhere from about $1,500 Up to about $40,000 right now That's currently on the walls

And so it's a range of it So what we want to do It's just normalize the price of it in general And the value of it in general So we have clients come in and saying And like, you know, if you first look at something, you say, oh, that's expensive. You're basing up the fact that you may not just be familiar with it. So it's almost like if you go and look, if you go to a store tomorrow, you go to Walmart, you can buy a purse or you can go to Louis Vuitton and buy a purse.

They're both purses, but it costs way different, right? So what we do is we'll come in and just by normalizing that, I mean, somebody comes in and says that painting is expensive. And I might say, you've gotten a $4,000 handbag. Is this painting really expensive? It's cheaper than that handbag. It's my outlive that handbag. You may have a handbag next year. So the idea behind is that it's not saying don't do what you already do, we're just saying

consider this also, and we got to start caring more about our culture. The fact that we got to be told to care about our own stuff, that's part of the problem, right? So like, how do we fix that part of it? How would an artist submit something to you? You know what I mean? What's that process? So an artist, the way of the way of- Who got a lot of artists?

Yeah, so on our website, you can go and submit zuccottgallery.com, you can, there's an artist submission form on there. And you can go and submit your work. We ask for two or three pieces from you, a bio, and then we'll, we review those over time and then figure out kind of who we want to work with. We also look for artists all the time. So we'll be on Instagram or wherever looking for artists that we can bring in to those some.

And so, um, I don't know what you call art. Hey man, my art, my view is very long with the rage when it comes to arts. creativity and the thing is we look for a lot of um we look for a few things one we look at the artists and what materials they're using we want to make sure that they're using stuff that's archival because we're talking about this stuff lasting forever right so if you got house paint on a piece of plywood that might not that might not necessarily live for ever right it could be dope it so it might be a dope piece yeah yeah but it might not necessary so you did say you had some fifteen hundred dollars shit yeah we do we do we do Don't call bad about the $15,00 shit. No, nobody trying to buy. Shit, I might just stay up in the front board with the $1,500 shit. I'm like, this nice enough. I like the $1,500.

I'm not going back to about a $40,000. I don't understand yet. I'm going to tell you, I got to buy two or three of these 15-100. Your pain will go have bad bugs for that three and under. Now I'm going to be small. I'm going to buy the X-trades and shit, the few changes. I like that kind of art. You don't be no little shit.

You ain't got no mugs? We ain't got no mugs. What about a tumbler? Like a four by six. Yeah. Like we're going to want it's at. Do you y'all ever have a problem with older people like unteasing shit coming in there?

Ma'am, you can't take pictures. I'm sorry, baby. I didn't mean to. We want everybody to take it. We want you to post it on Instagram. We have everybody. tag this all right please i've been i've been to art galleries where you was supposed to take pictures yeah yeah my my instagram picture is me in front of bastiott that i was supposed to take

yeah i told my brother like what you know wrong with that well the thing is when we talk about the experience we're trying to create in the gallery what we're trying to do is create something that's different from those art galleries like you talking about yeah because they make it stuff yeah and And what I hear is all hype to get the price up. They push in certain shit because they won't, it's not, it's not the people. But it was crazy, though, anybody can push the price up. That's why we got more black people involved in it. Because right now, they're even telling us now who's the popular black artists.

Because what they're doing is they're going to auction houses. Tell them me. Tell them me, bro. We got some Real Carlos Miller shit. Oh. This shit is exes. And you know what though? That's all it really take for a lot of them.

When they do is they'll get a writer, the museum. Right now we ain't control of it. That's the big. We got to be in control over there. I saw the shit on Netflix about them selling the fake art. Yeah. And they sold 80 million worth of fake art. They had a dude that could do all these art styles.

Yeah. And these people was just buying it like, it's on tour. It's going to places and it's like, man, this shit. He was making fakes, yep. Yeah. That can happen. I mean, so it's, that's one of the things that's in the art world is just not regulated. Bro, have you seen some of that Michael Jackson art?

So, what do you mean, Michael Jackson? No, I have not seen it. See, I thought she was deep. Bro, Michael Jackson are artists, man. I believe it. You've seen some of Swiss B shit? Yeah, his collection. Yeah, his collection is.

No, shit, he did. I seen, I haven't seen any specific pieces. that he did. I know he's a big collector, though. I unfollow this nigga. He's so good. Bro, I had to unfollow this dude. His life is too great, man.

Yeah, I follow him because, yeah. I unfollow him. I don't need to see all of that, bro. So we got some prominent collectors in the culture. Yeah. Like Swiss Bees. Jay Z, of course, tell you he got $40 million in the kitchen. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Coach K. Yeah, yeah. He told him Lou to lean on. because she own it. Blue just won a Grammy. I'd have got a woman. Get your ass off that. Goddain.

It don't even be the infant just be the black Jesus picture. Just be the ass woman for sitting on the couch with some plastic on it. Go to that room. Go in that room you're supposed to go with it. That was art. That's all right. Exactly.

Bro, give me some art game right quick. What's some of your favorite pieces? Like, historical art pieces. Give me some of that game. I know you got it because you went to school on a scholarship. You know, in terms of, like, where I like, I like a lot of, the artists that we carry are the ones that I'm really, I'm collecting right now. So it's about, it changes over time. You know, you collect different stuff at different periods in your life.

But if I look historically, like Charles White is an artist that's one of my favorite artists. This stuff going for hundreds of thousands now. Give us some, that's what I'm saying. Give us some artists, black people to look up. Hold on, let's say mine, just before, all the ones I really know. Radcliffe Bailey. Yep, yeah. Okay.

Hebrew Brantley. Yeah. Okay. Brandon English, that's my brother. You know, why we adding value. We don't add value. So, but, yeah, okay. That's all I know now, really.

I can think all the top of the head. You got, but even here in the line, you got Charlie Palmer, you got Jerry Lynn, out of Texas. You got Alfred Conte. That's a dope-ass name. Yeah, yeah. He's a dope-ass name. Yeah, yeah. He's a dope-artist. You've stolen money from Alpacomte. There's consequences for this. Conte Cartel.

You got Charlotte Riley Will. Aaron Henderson. Yeah. I was like, yeah, that's your dad. Don't lead a family out. I didn't see it. There's something to work in this book. Yeah. So my father, from a historical standpoint, My father took the entire series based on the lyrics of Negro spirituals

because he was asking the question of who made these songs and if you think about it, most people made the songs were... They never got the credit for it, isn't? Right, but a lot of was under 30 years old, and they created the whole base of all American music, and we never even talk about those people. So he did about 70 paintings. They're all about

five feet by six feet, huge paintings, and what he did was to create a book about the work, and so... Man, this shit dope is. Those paintings are huge, And each piece talks about the song and just as you knew it behind it all. You may never left a 10-mile radius and you still, it was funny.

He used everybody from the neighbor so that's my homeboy Chris who posed with that piece. I thought that was real slate, stop playing, man. You don't play too much. That was a picture in the backyard. What's the thing called

the complete of all this work? The promenade. The promenized? The provinized. So the dog, yeah, you're on it. That's why I'm putting with you. My dog knew I'm killing shit.

He knows what type of wine to bring to the center of the shit. That's all. I want to make sure I get it right. I'm going to go in that bitch. I want to see the provenance. Clayton English know what a salad for him is, man. The provenance is like the birth certificate of the painting. So every time you buy a piece, an original work of art,

you want to make sure you get the provenance. Because what that does is that proves that you got it. It proves that you, what you pay for, so it's the materials, the artist, all of that. So that's where the value is. It's in that piece of paper. Because you know that paper. That's like, if you had a Picasso and you had a paperwork on it,

the estate can be like, that's not real. And it can be worth $300 million. Yeah, that's what they did with my Picasso. Just check that out. That's dope. So we published that book last year, one, because that story just needs to be told. You know, we need to tell the story.

What can it be picked up? Purchase. On our website. Zuccottgallory.com. Hold on, say it one more time. Zucodgallery.com. Z-U-C-O-T-Gallery.com. And, uh, but the story itself just of, of those slave poets has to be told.

It's like, and so what we did in a book is he created, what you'll see is you'll see the song on one page and you see the piece on the next page. So the songs are songs we all know, like wade in the water. And what he's doing is he's doing. He's talking about the true meaning in those songs and what the messages that were in them and why they sang them when they sang. Yeah, because they was like, Wade in the Water

and they was like, this a nigger named Wade. That's my cousin. They were asking where it was? Where's Wade? Wade in the water. Wade in the water, children. God's going to trouble the water. but y'all know the song

yeah exactly and you think about it they couldn't read or write so the song survived all this time and we're the descendants what if that's all cast what if all slaves knew how to read

right as soon as they got out work now look you got to learn how to read don't tell nobody that's true crazy part is what they find out

you know a lot of them white people couldn't read that's the thing are you reading What does this say? Oh, I thought it said no caffeine. Get out of here for I have to whip you.

What if you was a house slave and then you were master getting ready to go to bed and he'd know you know how to read but he ain't said shit like, come here. Read me a bedtime. Break it up. I don't know how to make. Figure it out. Read aloud. He said real loud. For my heart podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning, River Road.

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But that's don't, we don't get, we don't get talked about. And really, that's the foundation for music. American music is all black music. Yeah, it's all okay. Everything came from that, came from all that. Then rap, everything else came from. But the thing about all the artists in that tell different stories. We've got another guy, Horace Mhotep, who does more modern stuff, right?

Like, you know, talks about now. But my whole thing is that it all connects back and it's telling our story. But you go to a lot of these white galaers, there'd be somebody in there telling our story. Bro, that's what makes me so mad about being blank. We don't never get to make up none of our history. Nope. It's always told to us.

Bro, white people will make up some history and then make a whole fucking show about it. And we believe it. We're watching. And believe everything they say. Bro, we got to start making up shit. Like, we can separate it from the real shit, but man, we can make our shit a little better too, man. White people's history look like Star Wars and shit.

We don't tell no bad parts. I remember when it first started, Neo showed up. And we fought our way to the future. They did do that with George Washington. He never told a lie. Never told a lie. He had wooden teeth. He had negro teeth.

Taken out of Negro mouths. Hey, he didn't tell his lies directly, though. He had people to lie for himself. That was a man with a wig on. Nick of your lying. That goes for anybody. Exactly. That goes for anybody at home, too.

I wish I could just go back in time just to hear a nigga disagree with that. That's the lying-in-his-motherfoy. He thought he's going to goddamn hire me. This time to get paid. He don't want a goddamn... You're lying there. You're lying-ish motherfucker you ever wanted to see.

Same story told us. Hey, that's why they only going to put him on the quarter because he only tell a little bit of the truth. Fuck it. Whatever. We ain't shit. But we're artistic, though. Bro, you got some artistic shit you could play?

Some futuristic art. Like, just imagine we at the art gallery and we've been there for about an hour. The wine kicking in. Your girl's little slip keeps slipping down. Titty is about to pop out. But she'll little tips out of the wine. She keeps grabbing this part of shirt. I don't know why they'll never wear a brought to the art gallery.

Then it seemed like your girl lose weight when she's about. started drinking wine, a clothes start fitting front of it. Nipple keeps slipping out. Like, look, I'm looking different. Why are you slipping? Why are you slippery? Are you shrinking? Oh, they drizzin wasn't that damn big

when we left the house. You're walking on it. Okay, that's stupid. This has nothing to do with art, but I like it. This one we're gonna play in the gallery. Bro, what type of shit? At what occasion would this be playing in the gallery? It would work.

This is all about uplifting black people, don't you? Don't you about missful, man. This is different. That shit he was just playing. It was like, Prince was like, leave that for J-O-N. Go back? Go back. Hey, I want to leave a little gift.

So, what do you think about the beat? Do you like it? Yeah, it's cool. Slave. You can have it. If you look to your left, you'll see a rare black Michelangelo. Only one of one. It's for sale, but it's not to sail.

Restor it back from a colonizer. Keep walking, keep walking, keep walking. So don't touch that. From the largest art gallery in the southeast. Keep walking, keep walking. We have a portrait of madam. Whoopi Gawberd. From an artist from the east side under Cato.

It's a one of one piece. We call it The View. Walka Gopin. We'll open up the bed. We'll open up the bids at $1,500. Get up, bro. This is a $40,000 piece, but we want to get rid of it.

Make room in the collection. Keep walking. Keep walking. Keep walking. We're going to stop and get some more wide. Feel free to mingle about as we commence the walking of the gallery. If y'all ever need a nigga to do that.

Yeah, I would take your head off and be baldhead. I will take the head off and be baldhead. Come on. Carry on. We're going to walk around and see some. of rare pieces today. Some of my real partners from the Swartz.

It's an artistic piece. Three little girls, welcome to the store. Candy Lady Shorty. Gonna open up the bins on Candy Lady Shorty $5,000,000 in the back please. Keep walking. That's a good name for a piece. There's.

There's. There's. Yes, that kind of like is, you said. Keep walking. Painted on the west side. This is titled My Pottledham. And this is the rare Cadillac, 1977. Owned by Rick James.

Yes, that is gold. Interior, that is real gold. Gonna open up the bid is at $75,000. Rick James Cadillac going once. It's some Atlanta art need to be captured, though. Oh, my God. Some local shit. It's always more Atlanta artists.

I think they need to. Fid free, Sean. It's smoke in the gallery. Yes, please roll up, please roll up. Keep walking. Shottifolk, you're more than welcome, shoddy folk. Come on, shardy folk. Ladies and gentlemen, we're gonna go have some refreshments.

Quick comedy set for my man, you know him and you love them, shaltie, shawty. No, that's enough. I'm through being artistic, bro. I know, I'm sorry. When y'all wanna do something, bro, we need a nice space where we can hang some of our fan art and do our own little,

gallery, bro. We need to collab with y'all. We ain't going to waste your time. But just keep in mind, we do shop in the $1,500 a session. So we might not be able to get the whole gallery. Can you get a wall and just put a lot of shit on one wall?

I go up to two. And he didn't know what the shit the receipt called too, so that shit. You need to sit in describing. I'm like, nigga, a receipt. That's a nigga, come back. I'm going to like, we're the provenon.

Nick, you didn't get the problem. Let me see the motherfucker. What the problem is that? Give me the goddamn bill of sale. Where the paint's left. So you meant to tell me that JJ didn't paint this? This ain't an authentic, good thing? Okay, all right.

Mm-hmm. All right, man. Well, look, let them know what they can find y'all online and all of those good things. So we're located in Castleberry. Actually, that's apart from here. And online. The website.

Zuccottgallory.com. I'm buying this, too. We love how you have. Yeah, ZucatgatGallery.com. You can also see some of the work that we have and some of the events that we do. This is a real coffee table book. It is.

That you can learn something. A lot of times coffee table books be on some bullshit. They just show you windows or doors or something dumb shit. But this shit, I like this. Right. I'm getting this. I like, like, when I'm at my coffee table,

I actually drink coffee on it. There's no need. to have a coffee table that you're not drinking coffee. You ain't never put no, if you ain't got no little coffee rings. I mean, if you have a living room table, that's fine. But if you go out and you look at your motherfucking Provalone and that bitch say coffee table.

If the private didn't say coffee table, make sure you drink some coffee on that. How much would I get for a rare four-eyes sticker that I peeled off the back of the side? It's rare, though, right? That's what I'm saying. It lasts. See your four eyes by it back from you.

Hey, man. Well, look, we appreciate y'all coming through and updating us on what's going on in the art world. And shit, one day I'm going to get me something. Come see us, man. I want a rare Michael Angelo. You're going to get that from us, though. You ain't going to get that from,

you're going to have to talk to the Pope. I've been wanting to ask somebody in the art business, though. it's like, how valuable is just like a titty picture? Depending on who painted it. There you go. And who bought it? And who bought it. Okay, I get-

That's the research I want to know. I want another most expensive picture with somebody titty out. I give you one. What if it's the original Andre 3000 ATL is painting with the titty's out in the green light on it? Yeah, but it's the actual painting and it's done by him. You know it because it's done by him. it will be worth something. I like how you think.

He's too realistic. There's no value in that. Keep walking. Because it was done, but like you said, like he was saying, like, if it's just the art, whoever painted it actually creates the value in it. Whoever painted and who collected it.

So if it's a painting that's sitting in entertainers collection, it'll be worth more than if it's just sitting in somebody else's collected. It could be. They can't increase the value. Then when you take it, when you have it as a collector and you take it to an auction, it creates value.

This was all by James Brown. I've been holding out on you. I own some art. It's a picture of me and Rick James. He got his hand over my shoulder like he's telling me, keep doing your thing. It's value with me. Favorite piece of art I ever had.

Besides that piece right there, that shit cold. That is going to go in the $1,500 section. I don't get it from, no one of the second. But that's just what we, if they don't meet the reserve. Marvin Gay, that's not for sale. Keep working, keep working. You ain't selling the Marvin Gay. But she'll sell that.

I said that we could probably work something out. I know the artist's been wanting to get into a bigger form. My partner did that. He's an artist and a barber and a. and he do album covers and I think he'll engineer or something I don't know he might be he's trying to relate everybody's engineered he do software and stuff of that nature I know a lot of people but now that we got the art plug so you like that one you see that J-O-N he back in yeah but now we plugged in in the art we got the t-shirts this is my one though

they could be also purchased online too because we said you know people a lot of people that's how I like that material for this to want y'all got a hit right here custodian of culture is in our custom come on man we got to keep it yeah yeah check the problem alone I got a question how the artists give the galleries make money off commissions yeah from selling the art yeah yeah so we that's what the artist comes in we sign a contract with the artists and we invest in we investing and we do all marketing we have to that we got to pay that gallery travel all that kind of hanging feet storage fee shipping feet all that fee fee fee mortgage and it costs when you start selling expensive things it

costs money to sell yeah so you know you're taking people out to dinner whatever you got to do to sell or traveling around trying to get stuff moved all that stuff calls I love how y'all came on here and let everybody know that everybody was welcome at the art gallery and in the art world man so that's big for culture and we appreciate y'all coming through man, showing us, man. We're going to the art gallery. Davey, get your win together.

85 chapters out for the Cootie's podcast. Yeah, man. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Appreciate you, man. Thank y'all, man. Thank you, y'all. Appreciate you, man.

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