The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Brother Ben X in the Trap!

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

Entrepreneur Brother Ben X (@brotherbenx) sits down with Karlous Miller and Clayton English. || Subscribe to 85 SOUTH on YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/The85SouthShow || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our We...bsite: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:04:14 Okay. Okay. No problem. No problem. We're working on some. Y'all doing all right? Yeah, what's it? Black-tastic, man.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah, I love to hear that. That's black and fantastic mixed together. Hey, it needs to be together. How are you today? I'm fantastically black. Ooh. Black-tastically. Black.
Starting point is 00:04:45 Mm. I'm hyperbally black. Black. Black is here. I don't know if that's good or bad. Black-tastic. That's good. Is it rain?
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Starting point is 00:05:38 That's what. It's unexpected, too, because you don't think. You get there to them people so nice. Yeah, I did. Check, check. I performed it. I was like, yeah, y'all. A lot of Bay Area.
Starting point is 00:05:49 Everybody good? Yeah. Everybody in their places? Really? Everybody good? All right, bet. Hey man, welcome back to the 85 tap show. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:04 Let's go, let's go. We are here with breaking news and important information today, Clayton. What we got? Man, we got some very special guests in the trap with us today. People have been in the comments like, oh, you know who you gotta get to stop?
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, man, so I had to reach out to make sure they were gotten through the trap. Brother Ben X is in here with us today. Tell us who you brought along with you. This is my business partner and brother, Brother Farrakhan Muhammad Ali. Very Khan, Muhammad Ali. How you doing?
Starting point is 00:06:38 Welcome to the trap also. So what's been going on, man? Give us a brief introduction. You know, introduce yourself to the audience and let them know how we got here. Well, my name is Brother Ben X, a student at the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. My story is I was born in prison. Word.
Starting point is 00:06:59 And I have actually 21 biological brothers and sisters. But I only know of six of them, four of them I know because my mom would take me to, my mom who got me after 10 days old, would take me. down there to East Texas to visit them. I always tell that story because the minister said that the way that we was born and shaped in the womb kind of gives us our purpose. So when I think about how I got here as, you know, the founder of digital real estate, helping thousands of people make money online and scale their businesses.
Starting point is 00:07:38 And now what we're doing with here at the farms, I think it started from that experience because I never wanted to go to school all those times and I want to get up in the morning just to get a degree of diploma and live that same lifestyle working for somebody else and having a job. So my mom, she started me off with, you know, going to Sam's Club and buying me snickers and honey buns and sell that school. So I didn't sell no weed or no crack of them,
Starting point is 00:08:03 but I flipped some honey bonds, some snickers and starboards. Yeah, okay. Yeah, you was a little candy man. You put the candy man lady in your backpack. Yeah, and I started a company called DLW Fly Distributors. So I would come to a company like yourself and say, hey, man, I pass out your podcast as flies for 10 send to fly.
Starting point is 00:08:20 I was making about $500 a week at the age of 14. Then around 2010, because I'm also a basketball player, I'm an All-American basketball player as well. Come on, let's go. We were just talking about hopefully. I wish I could stay a couple more days. Nah, I don't want to get out there with you, not if you know All-American.
Starting point is 00:08:38 So I started off editing my videos and that's kind of how I got introduced into making content. So although I got 21 biological brothers and sisters, I grew up in a child. I grew up in the house by myself. Oh, okay. So I would create skits where I'm talking to myself because I'm like, man, I want somebody that I can talk to.
Starting point is 00:08:55 So I created videos where I'm sitting right here and this is me sitting right here, and I would talk back and forward to myself. And then I was teaching myself how to edit, you know, my highlights. So instead of waiting on ball of his life to come do my film at the high school, I would do my own videos.
Starting point is 00:09:09 My mom would be in the stands filming. I'd come edit it. If y'all don't want to, you know, get me out there, I get myself. So that was my introduction to doing something for myself. Make a long story. story short, I joined the nation of Islam in 2015, so I actually had something to offer to our people. So I had a little bit more wisdom to offer, so my videos start to grow because
Starting point is 00:09:26 I would do current events and do news, but then I would show how the teachings could have really prevented this situation or help us out of this situation. And people saw me, you know, going online. So when I dropped out of college, a brother gave me a job, and I was working at this school. But around December came, you know, the school is out, and I'm only getting paid minimum away, so I didn't go back to that job, so I got a job at Sterolite. And that Sterolite, I don't know if y'all know what that is, but Sterolite is where they, you got to make them buckets. So, like, what you probably put your clothes in with the plastic, I was making that.
Starting point is 00:09:58 So the buckets was coming out. I had to put the wheels on the buckets, putting a sticker. Long story short, that was a slavery job for me because I'm living in, like, I'm actually working in a warehouse job. It's in the summertime with no AC. Then I went to FedEx, and this is kind of when I had my epiphany. I'm throwing all these boxes on the truck, and I said, man, What if I come to work next week
Starting point is 00:10:19 and I throw 1,000 more boxes on the truck? If I throw 2,000 more boxes on the truck next week and my paycheck gonna be the exact same. But if I have my own product and my own service, shoot, the more hard I work or the more smart I work, the more money I get paid. So I start to grow on social media, so now I have over half a billion views
Starting point is 00:10:36 on Facebook alone. I had my first YouTube channel that got terminated, I had over 39. 39 million views. The second one that just got recently terminated about maybe a couple months ago was back up to over 14 million views.
Starting point is 00:10:54 So I pretty much created a blueprint to show people how to impact people, how to grow their father online, and how to really monetize their gift. Because many of- What was the violation that they played? Well, the first one they say was hate speech, but they didn't give me no videos or say why.
Starting point is 00:11:09 The second one, they said circumvention of technology, whatever the hell that means, right? I don't know what that means at all. So they literally just terminated the page, no strikes on the channel on nothing, just deleted it. So they just put some words together. Yeah, it gave you something.
Starting point is 00:11:22 He just circumcised technology. Man, what is you talking about? Yeah, so they just deleted something. And I think it's because, of course, I pushed the teachings of the Honorable and pushed the ministers, I'm well known for, you know, spreading the teachings out on social media.
Starting point is 00:11:36 But the weight I got, you know, as the digital real estate founders, people just saw me growing, posting online. And I pretty much put together the blueprint. It's called Digital Real Estate. No, that's all I was going to ensure. What is digital real estate? So have you heard of in real estate
Starting point is 00:11:50 where you get a fourplex, right? They say, get you a fourplex and you rent out three and let those three pay for your mortgage. Y'all probably heard that. Well, around that time, people were saying you go do this and you go invest and you put all this money up.
Starting point is 00:12:03 But I was saying, man, I'm making $1,000 off one video. Y'all probably know that by now. I'm making $1,000 off one video, $8,000 here off this video. So I said, really, I got over 2,000 properties online. Every time I reshare my video on Facebook,
Starting point is 00:12:16 look, if it's impactful, I'm generating more income. So I have a quote that says, don't focus on passive income, focus on passive impact, because the more people you impact, the more income will come. So I show people how to develop their own digital products, your own digital assets. So for example, would y'all ever have a housewarming
Starting point is 00:12:36 before allowing, which I have a houseworm of what I have in couches, TVs, and at least something to eat in the house? A houseworm is basically you got this new house. Probably not. Well, I ask people, why you ask me to follow you? You ain't got nothing for me to follow. Why are you asking me to follow you,
Starting point is 00:12:52 but you ain't got no content on your page? So I'll show people how to build up your content, build up your digital assets, and then monetize it. Because the scriptures say, your gift will make room for you and bring you amongst great men. Many of us is chasing money,
Starting point is 00:13:04 but I think we should be chasing the gift. And if we chase the gift, the money, it chase us. So I put that in the platform and lay it out for them. That's hard. No, that's hard. You got sold that in? Yeah, man, I mean, social, it's a lot of money on social media.
Starting point is 00:13:24 Yeah. It's a lot of money on there if you play it right. Because a lot of people want to get a thousand views. I want to get 10,000 views. But if I tell you, stop, switch from getting a thousand views to where you impacting a thousand people. What's a thousand people times $5? You can get your nephew $5,000.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He's going to cut you out because I'm going to give it with $5. But if I'm giving you $5 a month and you giving me something impactful, That's $5,000 a month you have created from your mind. And then it's a lot of people that say, man, I ain't got nothing to offer. I say, man, you line. You do got something to offer. Even if you've been molested,
Starting point is 00:13:55 even if you don't want to prison, even if you don't did something wrong, would you rather go to jail or learn from a brother who went to jail? Easy. Would you rather be molested or be going through a sex trafficking, you know, a little circle,
Starting point is 00:14:09 whatever the case, maybe or learn from my sister and see, how did you get in that? That's an e-book. You know, I'm willing to pay you, so I ain't got to go through that. I'm willing to pay you so I don't have to make these mistakes. So God, when he allows us and permits us to go through certain things,
Starting point is 00:14:23 you still value, but even though you think you're not worthy. So I always tell people you are who make, you are what makes you unique. It's only one Carlos. It's only one Clayton. We may be talking about the same thing, but the way you're going to make it funny, the way you're going to put your sauce on it, man. I want to hear your perspective, because
Starting point is 00:14:39 you don't have been through something different than I have. So your perspective is going to impact me, and I'm willing to pay $25 because money is a medium of exchange of value. People buying pictures for $500. You mean you ain't got nothing valuable to get a world for $25? So I see y'all, y'all got your own platform now.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yeah, you're getting your monetization money, but you're also saying, shoot, give me some little money first before you even get to see the full program. That's digital real estate. Then don't let y'all come out with an affiliate program. They say, good dope seller self-right, so if I got some weed or whatever the case may be,
Starting point is 00:15:09 I'm going to give it to you, and then what you're going to do when you give it to him? You're going to get him a little discount. You know, you're going to cut him in. Well, what's the difference between you doing that in a digital world? So in a digital world, it's with your platform, let's say it's $9.99. You can say, hey, all my platform subscribers right now, I'm starting an affiliate program and y'all get 30%.
Starting point is 00:15:28 Now, how many people promoting the program? Now, y'all still getting 70%, but everybody else, they're getting their 30%. Now I really walk with 85 South Show because y'all put money in my pocket. I ain't got to make the videos. I ain't got to do the studio. I ain't got to get the guests, but I get to make money off y'all. Now I really love y'all. Now y'all all over the world with affiliate program,
Starting point is 00:15:47 not only y'all making money from the views that y'all got coming in, but everybody below y'all making money too. Mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm, mm. You just don't know what you just did. Yep, that pretty much does it for me. Nothing else I wanna talk about. You just opened up the floodgate, brother then.
Starting point is 00:16:13 Because now all the people who watch this, even the people who don't have a Facebook page. Come on, lo, come in. You heard you say what he said. And I heard you talk about something. Come on that, I can get to people watching this. I'd be telling everybody. Like, that ain't even what he said, but okay.
Starting point is 00:16:34 But I heard what you said about people copying your content. Oh, they love it. So that's screen recording. Now you're giving them a reason not to screen recording. Because if I screen recorded, give it to you for free, I don't get my 30%. Now you saving all the people who get to see your profiles or your program for free
Starting point is 00:16:49 and you're still getting your 30%. Because why am I going to give it to you for free if I'm gonna get 30%? Now you're making sure that's protected. Maybe. Maybe. Maybe. They still gonna steal it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 They're still gonna steal it. I think it's just personal. It ain't never personal. You sure? Yeah. Well, if they're just addicted to it and they can't stop. I gotta upload this for them.
Starting point is 00:17:13 16,000 people need to see this. Yeah. I don't know, man. This is the craziest stuff ever. Because we can have, like you said, they can find all the violations for, you know, organic content, but they can't stop the spam, the robots. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:33 Piracy. Yeah. They blow up my page. I can't even see real comments no more. That's what I hate. And they only really, I don't see that on white people's page. I don't know. I don't be on a lot of white people's page. but a lot of times it seems like we got a lot of,
Starting point is 00:17:46 if it's digital real estate, they put in digital graffiti, you know what I'm saying? They're trying to run the value of our digital property down. You're trying to talk about, you know, it'd be the little freaky girls, or it'd be little, you know, let me show you how to make, man, stop, get off my comments, let the real people speak. Am I cute?
Starting point is 00:18:06 Yeah, watch my new video, lady. Don't check my story. Right. Why? They don't do that on all the people page, man. It's the program they got black people set up there. Oh, they got eyes on a different hard drive. But that's neither here's on there.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Ain't no one of the virus protection on that. Right. On our service. You said this your business partner. Yes, sir. Yeah, go here. How did y'all start doing business together? Well, I'll lead you up until.
Starting point is 00:18:38 So he was doing something called the 100 Acre Project, basically, striving to get 100 acres and pooling resources with brothers and sisters and we was getting 27 acres of land and they needed one more person so I told him, man, check your DM and I was the last person and the way that he explained the concept was
Starting point is 00:18:56 you know, we buy together collectively with unity so one person ain't got to put $100,000 down on some land or $50,000 on some land and if we need to get some cows versus one person paying $6,000 or $8,000 we put all the money up together if we need to get attracted which we got our own excavator now,
Starting point is 00:19:13 man, it's $50,000 and we got 100 people, man, everybody put up, you know, spit it even. And what I do with digital real estate, I said, man, I think we can scale this. And our first goal was to get 500 acres by the end of last year. It's been nine months since we've been in business, and thus far we got over 1,600 acres of land.
Starting point is 00:19:38 We got over 1,600 acres of land. We got over 1,600 acres of land. land. We have our own chocolate bars, 200 acres in Ghana. So the chocolate, it's literally, you can go look at it on our Instagram. So I got our own chocolate bars being made in Ghana. We have our own micro community, which here going to that already got 15 living spaces. We have a couple of people that are actually living on the land here shortly. So I just saw what he was doing, man, with the land, coming from the blueprint of the honorableage Muhammad, buy land, do something for yourself, self-sustain, and then sell the surplus. And with the digital real estate that I do, I said, man, this, Let's unite versus me trying to do what he's doing And he's trying to do what I do That's collaborating and take it to the next level So you take it from there Definitely, that's exactly what happened
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Starting point is 00:24:58 Listen to the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. I came to Atlanta. I was looking for land, and it was so expensive trying to do it by myself. I said, why would I take $150,000? Got to buy the land. I got to milk the cow. I got to farm to land.
Starting point is 00:25:19 I'm going to be out there all day sweating, you know, like a slave, trying to do all this, just to provide food clothing and shelter for myself. What about my brother? What about my sister? So I said, well, let me make some phone calls. I called my brother. Hey, would you like to go half with me on some land? He said, well, how does it work?
Starting point is 00:25:37 I said, well, you put up half the money, you own half the land. He said, all right, great. But the property I wanted to get was still too expensive. I said, and we call another person. So by the end of the day, I have five people. I said, listen, we pay five ways. We divide up the property five ways. Any money we make, we split five ways.
Starting point is 00:25:53 How are you going to say no to that? As long as you trust the person that's calling you. So they said, yeah, sign me up. So I was like, man, we need one more person. So the next day, I put it on Facebook. And when I put it on Facebook, somebody, somebody messed me and said, well, I have 100 acres if you want it. I said, call me. The next day we talk, they said, I'll sell you 100 acres.
Starting point is 00:26:15 I said, listen, I don't need 100 acres. What am I doing that? I said, but I know our people need a community. I know we need to grow our own food. I know we need to teach our own children. I know we need to secure our own neighborhood and raise our families the way we want to raise them. And so they said, all right, well, if you do that, we'll give you the 100 acres.
Starting point is 00:26:36 If you're going to use it to build a community for black people. And I said, okay, bet, let's do it. I don't know if they knew it was going to take off the way it did. So I put that back on social media and thousands of people reach back out. Like within 24 hours, I was overwhelmed with responses. So me being a student at Honorable Miss Lewis Farrakhan organization is key. that happens to be my background, is organizing. So I said, okay, I need to set up Zoom calls,
Starting point is 00:27:05 I need to make a website, we need to talk, we need to go over bylaws, and so, first thing people wanna know was, what was the rules? I said, well, Donable Ms. Louis Farcon wrote a book called The Restrictive Law of Islam is our success. And it's real simple, there's no gambling, no touching on sisters, no stealing, real simple stuff, but sometimes simple things,
Starting point is 00:27:26 we get lost in a gray area, we get confused. So I just took it right out, the teachings. I said, these are the laws of the community. And then as people ask questions, I had to answer them. And then if I didn't have an answer, I would go find it. Because some people say, hey, I don't want to litter, but I want to help. So then I had this other list of people that wanted to offer skills. Oh, I know how to take care of cows. I got old tractor equipment. I got my grandfather left me land. You all won that. Like, wow. So we set up all these different groups and calls and we had the 100 acres but it wasn't suitable for the
Starting point is 00:28:01 community that we wanted to build after looking further into it so we started looking for other property that's how we found a 27 acre property my brother ben x came on i put it on instagram and he said like you said check your DM and we we talked like the next day or the same day immediately and when he heard the numbers obviously it makes sense who's going to say no but at that time it was only dozens of people, maybe a couple hundred. And just like he said, he said, bro, we can scale this. This is what the honorable Elijah Muhammad teaches us. I said, all, let's do it, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:35 And so, that's what we did. And once again, it just, I don't want to say blew up, but expanded very rapidly, extremely fast, and I think we may have been expecting. But once again, we students in honorable, Ms. Louis Farrakhan. We spent 10 years working on ourselves, trying to stop lying,
Starting point is 00:28:55 trying to stop stealing, trying to stop smoking and drinking and gambling. So we are, I'm not gonna say we ready, but we're trained to handle our people. We love our people. So when they come, we handle them with love. We treat them the way we wanna be treated. People say, what's their religion?
Starting point is 00:29:11 And the religion, Anbulaj Muhammad, say the best religion is to treat people the way you wanna be treated, to do one to others as you have them doing to yourself. Who's gonna say no to that? Y'all are looking out for all people and all we gotta do is not lie, cheat, and still, all we got to do is not, you know,
Starting point is 00:29:27 blow weed in your face, you know what I'm saying? Just respect our neighbor, sign me up. It's equitable terms, it's equal ownership. It's a no-brainer. So my brother came on. You were smoking weed over there. You're trying to hold it. You almost died.
Starting point is 00:29:53 You don't know, man. He talking about me, he talking about me, he talking about me. Oh shit, oh, I forgot that he was scared. I forgot, my man, ain't nobody tell me. Ain't about to tell me. Why don't you say something? Oh, and it took my partner to hell, man. My bad.
Starting point is 00:30:12 No, you're good. So, so that was the concept. And so people reached out from all over the world, man. All over the world, primarily. Africa, the motherland. People like, man, I got 100 acres. I got 300 acres. I got olives coming, man. We... Olives coming from Egypt, bro. We got Seamoss coming from Zanzibar. We got Cocoa coming from Ghana. Brother, our people are so ready. They just need equitable terms. They really just need to be treated right, treated with care and love and a high level of respect.
Starting point is 00:30:46 And then once you get the people, you organize them. So me and my brother, he's a master at attracting our people. God is blessed him with attractive power, and he's articulate, he's good at it. He enjoys it. Inavulaj Mahmast said whatever you're good at, whatever you enjoy doing is most likely what you were born to do. So he gets our people by the thousands. Me, because I have a deep desire for us to go free, for us to live free and independent lives, to love one another and grow the way the honorable minister Louis Fargan taught me. He restored my faith in myself and God
Starting point is 00:31:20 and helped me become a better person. I want to scale that. I want to scale being reformed and retrained into a decent human being. So when he gets our people, we handle them properly and we organize them. And so from that we put together a little teams. Only
Starting point is 00:31:36 a few of us, you know, a handful of people but with the right minds and love in your heart, you can do anything with a few people. So that's how we got to this point. It's hard. Nothing wrong with that at all. Yeah. Seems a very pure message.
Starting point is 00:31:52 So y'all own properties here and Africa? Or it's just, yeah? Yeah, we, we, so people have given us property. Yeah, like, okay. Literally giving it to us. That was 100 you said, and then, yeah. That one, we got 20 in Texas, we got five. So sometimes we can do a partnership.
Starting point is 00:32:13 So let's say you're going to. grandma left through 25 acres you don't want to sell it but you don't want to sit in there either so we got people in Texas that want land we got people with land that's not doing nothing so like Uber we just put them together and we form a partnership contract we don't take ownership we make an initial investment we get a certain number of people we split the profits so everybody wins so we got five acres in Dallas we working on 20 acres in West Texas three acres in Florida 43 acres in Arkansas
Starting point is 00:32:44 saw about seven, eight hundred acres in Georgia. Yeah, yeah, so. And then we can get into, we're actually building a community as a blueprint, like the 100 acre project, but this time we're Brother Ben, and it's a little more well developed, well put together, so we're actually building
Starting point is 00:33:02 an entire sustainable community right here in Georgia. Well, that's awesome. How's it going though? as far as the process. Great. Great, it's going to be. You know, it's always gonna be ups and downs, man. But what we wanted to do differently
Starting point is 00:33:25 was document the process because I'm naturally a filmmaker as well. You know, I know how to document it, put it out there because I know our people all the time when you're giving them money, they're skeptical these days. Man, what this nigga gonna do with my money? Yeah. Just thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:33:42 So for me, I said, man, I think the best way for us to do this in Skelly is to be transparent as possible because we're already scared. Oh, man, they bombed us down there in Tulsa. You know, all they, why are we going to do this? Well, people always say, what are you going to do if they bomb it?
Starting point is 00:33:58 What are you going to do? They bomb you at your house. What are you going to do when they come shoot up and put a bomb in your house? Nothing, I'm dead. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to die. I'm going to go in the brain.
Starting point is 00:34:07 But I always, the minister said, man, listen, we're going to die anyway. So you might as well die striving to do something for your people. Striving to be impactful because I believe that's what true eternal life is. It's not my physical body because this is a finite
Starting point is 00:34:24 body that's going to go back into the ground. But, you know, they say that if I am pregnant a woman or you're impregnant a woman, you live on through that child, right? But what if I impregnate your mind? And then now you are passing that knowledge and you passing those seeds to other people. Now I'm living on through other people. So the Quran says
Starting point is 00:34:40 speaking out of those who are slain in a way of a lie is dead. No, they're not you just comprehend not so the knowledge that they have given us from the past all of our great leaders if we living on that and we are doing something that's effective and sustainable from what they said they alive in us so i'm saying all that to say we want to do something different and uh we denied all donations so a lot of people's like man i love this process man i love what y'all doing let me donate and we said no we don't want no donations he said we wanted to do what we could do with our own money first what our own efforts first with our own organizing first then you put
Starting point is 00:35:13 fuel to the fire but a lot of times man we are getting money for ideas and uh we want to have meetings about meetings and i don't like meetings about another meeting no me either right you know i mean so i wanted y'all to see the execution so when we traveling you see the traveling you see the time flights ain't free obviously hotels ain't free obviously so we got to pay to do these type of things man we got to go look at the land we got to get the soil tested so we let everybody know how much we're paying for the members you know what's what's being paid paid for, let them know the site map and that things are coming. But the main thing that we're doing is documenting the whole process.
Starting point is 00:35:49 So we went to go clean up the land, what was that, Friday or Sunday? You know, we documented that, to let the people know, hey, man, we cleaning it up. We documented us uprooting the floor, we're going to put the new floor in. So everything is documented so that you can follow the process and see what's going on. So I think with that, and we have had a situation with 63 acres, we put it out there, or we allow some people to come see it who, wasn't land owners yet. So we learned some lessons from that.
Starting point is 00:36:17 And they lied, they start calling the agent saying, hey, man, these ain't good people. You know what I mean, they're doing a go from me. We ain't got no go for me, but they're doing a go for me to get the land. Don't sell it to them. So do you know that they changed their mind and decided not to sell it to us?
Starting point is 00:36:30 Well, they were doing all kinds of things. Guy came through, right down the street, how many acres was that? 3.50. 3.50. Better land, great pricing, right down the street, we end up locking that in through Unity as well.
Starting point is 00:36:45 So it's been some, you know, here because people trying to stop us here and there. There's fake here out the farms pages, so our only page is here after forums. They are already inboxing people from other pages, DM&M and them talking about buy land with me, pay me through cash up, all kind of crazy stuff. But it's been going pretty smooth thus far, man.
Starting point is 00:37:02 We've got a lot of like-minded individuals. People are real excited to help out because this is something that they've been waiting on, you know, just having a vehicle where I can unite and do something for myself without, religious game banking. The minister said we'd be intellectually masturbating. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Man, yeah, because we go through a debate and we don't debate at 10 minutes and I feel good that I don't prove the brother wrong and I'm in the same condition you're in. You Christian, I'm Muslim, or I'm Christian and you Muslim, I'm saying you're wrong and you're wrong. The minister said, look here, your mother said three plus four equals seven.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Your says six plus one equals seven. Mine says seven plus zero equals seven. and because we got different equations we argue with each other online to try to see who the best. He said if you get down to the root knowledge, not the branch knowledge you'll see hey man we got different equations but we all get into the same answer
Starting point is 00:37:54 seven. And so what we've been able to do and say hey man, like he said the honor Blanche Muhammad said the best religion is to do unto others as you want done it to yourself and the Muslim simply means one who submits their will to do the will of God so if you Hebrew is allied or you whatever the case may be and you still believe in God
Starting point is 00:38:10 long as you submitting your will to do the will of God that's literally what a Muslim is. So we know who you are, but you can call yourself what you want to. Right, yeah. That's heavy. Yeah. Driving that game, Ben X.
Starting point is 00:38:25 Yeah. It's driving to. That makes sense, Tommy? What you said? Intellectual masturbating? It just sounds crazy. But it is crazy, and that's what people do all day. Yeah, because you know you feel good,
Starting point is 00:38:40 but it's unproductive. Right. So I got that nigga with the, with the collegiate, he didn't know the quote. All right, now what, you're going back to the same inter-figerator I'm going to? Right, yeah. So if there's no progress, man,
Starting point is 00:38:52 the message says that's just simple without substance. Got to make progress. Yeah. And that's what this whole platform right here is about, man. It's all about putting the information out and letting people, you know, picking shoes what they want to hear. How did y'all come up with the name, 85%? Because we knew that it wasn't gonna be accepted
Starting point is 00:39:11 by everybody. We don't need everybody to watch our show. We know 100% it's, they can never approve everything. Like people, we get more dislikes than likes. But the people that we're talking to, we already excluded the people that we're not talking to. You know what's funny about that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:32 We have some lessons. And in our lessons in the nation, we have the 5%, the 85% and the 10%. And the 5% are those who understand the reality of God. And you know that there's not some spoof God and that you are God. You got force and power within you. You have the ability to have a thought in your mind and really bring it into existence. So when we hear this Bible quote where it says, God said being it is, that's what y'all did.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I'm pretty sure this podcast refers just a thought. And one of you, you're the host, right? You started this in his mind. It was just a thought in his mind. Then he had to whirl it into existence like the God does. And 85% of those who are dumb, deaf, and blind, these are the ones who are being manipulated by the 10% bloodsuckers of the poor. So they understand the reality of God,
Starting point is 00:40:20 and they understand cause and effect. But they're going to give them trick knowledge to get them to, you know, continue to live their side of his life. So to hear you say that, we already understand the majority of people are not going to understand, and you're going just to those people, I feel like y'all are doing that work as a 5% of. You know, y'all bringing people on the platform
Starting point is 00:40:38 that can give them knowledge, wisdom, and understanding, but you know, majority of them probably go dislike it. But he said that's the work because he said this was the hardest job given to man, giving life to the dead. You ever tried to raise a dead man from the grave? You can't do it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 Yeah, pretty hard. But think about it, we're the dead people. If you ever went to a friend of which I'm sure y'all have, who dressed the man in the casket? What did you got? Somebody else did, right? Who put his shoes on?
Starting point is 00:41:08 Yeah, somebody else. Yeah, who dressed up his herd and made them look good. Yeah, mortition. So think about us as a people. Who growing our own, who growing our food for us? Who's colding us? Right. You know, who housing us?
Starting point is 00:41:20 Somebody else is. So we're dead people. So the honorably, Muhammad said he wanted to get life to the dead and make us living people to get up and do something for ourselves instead of depending on white people. The minister said white people is actually no longer the problem. He said it's the fear of white people. That's the problem.
Starting point is 00:41:36 We're scared to go out and do something for ourselves. We're scared to go out and build for ourselves because we're afraid that they're going to kill us. Right. And if we do die, all right, cool. But if I put the idea... You're not cool. We're not cool.
Starting point is 00:41:50 I say cool because we're going to happen. We're going to die anyway. It's got to happen. Yeah, we're going to die anyway. I didn't mean to make it that right. But if I put the idea out there in millions of people have the same idea, now they don't know what to do because now you've got to kill the idea.
Starting point is 00:42:02 But it's already in millions of minds. Yeah, you can't kill it. It's harder to kill an idea. It's a good point to say. because one of the first things that comes up when you talk about land, separation, providing our own food clothing and shelter is fear. First thing that comes up, how are we going to do it? Why are we going to be out there by ourselves?
Starting point is 00:42:22 How many weapons we're going to have? What are white people going to do? And one thing I noticed is that our people are only like, you know, when we're fearful like that, it's a condition. It's not who we actually are. Because after having a brief conversation with them, with them, they start to lose the fear because courage is passed down. So the honorable minister Louis Farcon, he's so courageous and brave.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Now you've got people like me walking around. I'll poke my chest out. You know what I'm saying? I don't laugh if it ain't funny, you know what I'm saying? Because honorable Mr. Lus Farkon teaches us, man, you got nothing to be afraid of. He didn't told Satan everything there is to tell him. He didn't told the devil everything there is to tell him. And he's been unscathed up until now.
Starting point is 00:43:00 He's a fearless black man. It's not many of those walking around here. So he transfers that to us. And now we're walking around here, like, we're sharing that and projecting that to our people. So when they come to here after farms, they may come slightly afraid, but by the time we've done talking to them, they're ready to go, they're ready to live, they're ready to farm, they're ready to bring their babies. And when they get out to the land, man, it's unbelievable how our people, all we need, man, is a better environment. That's it. We are amazing people. We're literally the builders of civilization. We are the leaders of the entire world. black man of America. Where's the farm? So it's, it's, um, we got 450 acres in Sandersville.
Starting point is 00:43:43 And when we got that property under contract, we didn't know that it had a whole micro community inside of it. What did you mean? So it had 15 tiny homes in the middle of it. So the seller, they were hunters. They were leasing the land and they had built a little community. So he told them, you got 60 days to get out. I sold the land. But they approached us because we had a man on the ground, once again, using that unity, we had a man on the ground. They approached us through him and said, well, it's cheaper for us to sell it to you guys for hardly nothing than it is for us to break it down and try to take it somewhere. So we bought an entire 15 tiny home community for pennies on the dollar. We got some houses for $500. What? Yeah, they liveable. We got something
Starting point is 00:44:29 for $1,500. We documented this. I know. So, well, our people... Toil is flushing there. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's hard. You see those are saty homes on all the HGTV, that's all the, yeah, they're going crazy. Electricity, bathrooms, kitchens. We got a brother that moved from Phoenix. He just moved on to the land already. We just closed on the land. He already moved him and his wife and his four children.
Starting point is 00:44:49 He in there right now, as we speak, redoing the floor. And he feels good because look where he can show his wife and children. As a man, he got his own home. He got his own land. If he need to feed his babies, he don't have to beg the white man to feed his children and give him poison and GMO and food by zip code like Dr. the west he's been saying he can go out there and put a seed in the ground and teach his babies how to be a man how to get how to grow and and and do what god told you to do as a man so it's
Starting point is 00:45:17 the environment when you change a person's environment you change their nature and our people literally just need that new environment and we'll get a whole new nature I ain't gonna say I gotta go to the bathroom. Can you get them books right there? I was just gonna ask you to give me your top five books. Yeah, I'm gonna give you some of them right here. Oh, beautiful. So this is our gift to you on behalf of the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan
Starting point is 00:45:57 and here at the farms. That book right there is called How to Eat to Live. Yeah, okay. Show you how to eat. how to fast, how many days you know you eat, like we eat one other day, the fall of America, a lot of stuff that's going on right now, you can get right directly from that book.
Starting point is 00:46:18 This is our savior, has arrived. And then this one, I'm pretty sure you I may have heard of this and seen out Muhammad Ali and all that with these books, message to the black man. Thank you, brother. So that's our gift to y'all. So those are my top here.
Starting point is 00:46:33 Yeah, thank you. Right there and then another one would be closing the gap by the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan and then outside of the nation I would say this book called Think and Grow Rich. Yeah, because it talks about, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:46 just how to think it, man, how to really manifest it from my mind and really tap into your gift that you already have and the riches that you already have from within yourself and just bring it out, you know. Give me your top five books.
Starting point is 00:47:01 Top five? I would say we got something as registered Muslims in nation Islam called the supreme wisdom and that right there allows you to develop a mathematical theology it gets you out of an idea waiting on a mystery god to provide food clothing and shelter for you but it allows you to tap into the god within and connect him to the creator or the god without and solve your own needs and solve your own problems so it says well you sit at home and wait for that mystery god to provide you food and says emphatically not we've searched for that mystery god and we have not found one therefore we concluded that the son of man is god so it it forces
Starting point is 00:47:39 you to get up it has clear instructions on how to move how to carry yourself how to protect yourself who to listen to who not to listen to it breaks down to 85 10 in the 5 clearly where you can say like j z said what percentage are you the percentage who don't understand is high than the percentage who do that's a clear reference to the 85 10 and 5 in the supreme wisdom lessons given to us by massifar muhamma his servant the honorable Elijah Muhammad at that time in the 1930s. So I would say that book right there is pretty much the foundation
Starting point is 00:48:09 for the entire life that I was able to build for myself starting with less than nothing and being able by God's grace and permission to build a life on the word of God. The supreme wisdom, I would say that's number one first and foremost.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Okay, Bill. Brother Ben X, what can we find you online to get some more knowledge and all of that type of stuff? Brother Ben X on everything. So that's Instagram, Twitter, podcast, YouTube. And if y'all are interested in my program, I'm about to drop it again.
Starting point is 00:48:41 Soon, www.digital, the number four, real.com. So digital for real.com. And I encourage them to check out all the testimonials. Many people are paying thousands of dollars for these programs and ain't really getting much out of it. So I like to leave with impact so y'all can check out all the testimonials on the page and things of that nature.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Other than that, man, Brother Ben, on all platforms. Where can they find you? So I'm Brother Farrakhan, but I've been shadow band, so you can't at me on Instagram. No, we're gonna find you anyway. Oh, we're gonna get you about it, that man.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, for sure. I'm at Brother Farrakhan on Instagram, Facebook. I don't have a YouTube, yeah, I'm working on it. You gotta get that digital real estate up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Absolutely, that's a fact. And then also we on Instagram as at here after Farms, just one word here after Farms.
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Starting point is 00:54:49 oppressed women you know because of what they saw like movies and things of that nature But in fact, if you go look at, you know, Dr. Sister Ava Muhammad, she's the national spokesperson for the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan. So the women are freed in the nation of Islam. The Honorable Laj Mahomet said the home is her base, but not her place. But when you do have children, you know, that is the first, you know, priority. Another thing, I think, is all we do is sell bean pies and newspapers. That's why everybody laughed, right? So inside of that newspaper is news and something that can really say your life.
Starting point is 00:55:34 People say, what do the nation offer? Now, you got brothers who into real estate. It's proven that I have helped thousands of people make money and start businesses and scale. But the most important thing that we can give you is knowledge. The Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan said wealth, generation of wealth starts with knowledge. If I give you $10,000 right now, $50,000. right now, you would say, oh, man, that's a good brother. But if you got a nigger mine, what you're going to go do with it?
Starting point is 00:56:02 You're going to waste it because you got no plan, you got no blueprint, you got no strategy. You don't know what to do with it. So I've seen that happen. A brother giving $10,000 and lost it, didn't even know what he did with it. Because your subconscious mind is not even ready for that type of money. So again, money is only your byproduct. So what we offer is knowledge, man. When it comes, I'm pretty sure by the reason we talked about the vaccines on here, right?
Starting point is 00:56:23 Well, a lot of the things that people was using and sharing to combat that was in the final call newspaper. A lot of things about conflict resolution is in that final call newspaper. A lot of our people are obese, overweight, don't know how to eat. Every final call newspaper that y'all read if y'all open it up, there's a section called How to Eat to Live, teaching you how to eat to live. And the bean pie got a Navy Bean in now. A lot of y'all, pretty much all of us got our cell phones in our hands or buyers. Well, y'all, I'm pretty sure y'all know that that cell phone has got radiation that's going out, right? The Navy Bean fights radiation.
Starting point is 00:57:01 The Minister said that during Savings Day a couple years ago that, you know, the Navy Bean helps you fight radiation. So the Navy Bean soup and the bean pies, they're actually good. It's like an upgraded sweet potato pie. But they got ingredients in it that's coming to save you, man. So I think that's a big misconception of the nation that all the brothers do is, you know, sell papers and beans. but you'll be surprised some of the brothers who sell papers actually making probably more money than you at your job I know a brother right now in California got big paper and all he do is sell the final call newspaper and you know the
Starting point is 00:57:35 bean pie and then they say something about we out there and they he got you out there in them suits and it's hot outside you ain't never said nothing about your nephew outside in 90 degree weather playing pot one of football so what's wrong with me having a suit on to come deliver a message to my people that's gonna save them. But let me be a sports player going D1. I can have on all kinds of paths, face shield, can barely breathe.
Starting point is 00:57:59 That's my nephew, going to, go on to Texas, going to do, but you have a black man out there who ain't, it's actually not as hot as you think. When you got the black suit on, it actually stops the son from hitting your skin directly. So we don't be as hot as y'all, maybe think we are. So yeah, those are some things that I would probably think of and say.
Starting point is 00:58:20 One more other thing. Talk about the discipline, too. To discipline, a lot of people that I know that are most of them are disciplined. What are the more people are? Well, I believe that we are disciplined not only because we are
Starting point is 00:58:33 giving knowledge of self. The minister says knowledge of self leads to love for self, and love for self leads to respect for self. When you get that billing, you don't put 87 in no more, do you? Yeah, when you got that 1999 Ultima that mama passed down,
Starting point is 00:58:50 you can let somebody sit on the hood we're sitting on the trunk but let you finally get that Bentley you treated a little different well when you get knowledge of yourself and you realize you're more worthy than the Bentley you put different gas in your body you know that you put different food in your body you put different food in your head
Starting point is 00:59:06 you allow different things to go in and another thing is that we have a system to where when I joined the nation of Islam I raised my hand and said this is what I want to do so now I'm held accountable to what I said I want to do So it's not one of those religions where I'm just choose when I come to work. I don't go to bedside Baptist or not choose when I go to work, choose when I come to the mosque. We got study group on, you got F-O-I class on Monday, we got class on Wednesday,
Starting point is 00:59:32 we got self-improvement on Friday, and then we got the meeting on Sunday. If I don't show up, ain't no, all right, sister, Sister Samantha didn't show up today. Sama'u, brother. Waleigh Salam. Hey, man, where are you at? Why you didn't come? Oh, man, I was doing something. What was you doing?
Starting point is 00:59:47 see because if I say I raise my hand and I'm going to be held accountable to this it shouldn't be nothing wrong with you calling me so we're a military so when you don't come to class or you don't show up for a certain period of time you went AWOL now you got to take processing over again so you know we don't know what happened to your mind so we got to check on you so a lot of men
Starting point is 01:00:09 haven't been put in a position where they got to be held accountable you know you think oh because I'm 18 I got a mustache and I'm grown now You know, I think that's why a lot of us in the condition that we end, because if I'm the only person that's holding me accountable, all I got to do is have that wicked thought. Oh, you good, and I'm justifying it. So the minister said, devil is deceptive intelligence, rationalizing disobedience. In other words, I know what I'm doing is wrong, but I'm going to try to justify it real quick. So that thought in your mind is that snake that it's talking about in the garden that's in your mind, that's in your head that's telling you, hey, man, God's just trying to keep you away from the phone. You can go over here and do this.
Starting point is 01:00:46 Hey man don't eat pork Here it come Shoot my grandmother Little shoot 90 she ate pork See now you're starting to justify Eating bad Now you're starting to justify doing the wrong Things so when you are in the military
Starting point is 01:01:00 And you actually call when you're doing Something wrong just to call it It ain't like somebody going to beat you Or pat to you But just the fact that somebody is calling you When you want to live righteously and you striving To be upright that's why we striving to be right. Don't think just because you come into
Starting point is 01:01:16 the nation or just because we got these suits and bow ties on that we're perfect. Man, we mess up just like everybody else. The nation is a hospital for sick people. So we there and we're striving and we're growing just like y'all. So when we say striving to be upright, hey man, I make mistakes just like you make mistakes but if I'm striving
Starting point is 01:01:32 to do right, just getting the phone call for my brother to check in and check me real quick is what getting me back on the right pass. So I believe that's why, you know, we discipline. You know, in basketball, you do something wrong. The coach's going to check You do something wrong, your teammates gonna check it. And our world, man, we just out here, man,
Starting point is 01:01:49 and we have nobody checking us, man, until we die. Oh, man, I show, he was out there living bad. Oh, she was out there, you've been on that. But there was never no checks and balances in there to where you can correct them that was living free. And in this world, we're taught that this is Satan's world. So you got the strip club open them to seven days a week in some places. You know, fentanyl everywhere.
Starting point is 01:02:11 You got access to it. So we got to separate. That's why, and here at the farms, we want to have our own community because we got to separate. So when you separate, the honorableized Muhammad said, you never have to condemn a dirty glass. Just put a clean one next to it. Give them another option. I'm going to add something to that real quick, if you don't mind. When I first joined a nation to Islam, I said, I'm going to give this six months.
Starting point is 01:02:35 I'm going to do everything they tell me to do for six months because I want to make sure this works or doesn't work. I don't want to like halfway it and then not understand what happened. So I came up under the discipline their brothers talking about. And within six months, my life had completely transformed, completely transformed. But the interesting thing about it is that where can you go and get trained and develop discipline to take orders from another black man? The Nation of Islam training is so unique because, yeah, it's a military, but everybody in that military is a black man. So we're being engineered to take instructions from black men. We're being engineered to be trained by black men.
Starting point is 01:03:18 We're being engineered to live in our own nation, to be governed by our own nation. These are a training ground for leaders. This is a training ground for captains and lieutenants. This is the only black military that you can come to in the name of God and be reformed and remade into an upright black man. So that's another thing that I noticed really from a personal perspective was it really allowed me to get into a whole new mindset of interacting with my brothers, accepting the truth from my brother, and functioning in a highly organized capacity with other black men, which is
Starting point is 01:03:52 something I had never experienced before. And another thing is when it comes to the discipline, y'all ever played sports before? Like, have you ever had an early basketball game or early football game? And when you had that football game, you was up and you was hype listening to music before, right? But you notice how when you got to go to school, it takes you a while to get to. up why is that so for me I think another thing that helps us with the discipline because when it came to basketball I was disciplined I'm up I met all
Starting point is 01:04:20 the practices I'm doing my work out even after practice I'm in there still shooting because I see myself in the picture I had a video they were involved always said the minister said if I took a picture this whole room and I showed y'all the phone who the first person you're gonna look for He said our people are not interested in the education today and what we're offering talking to other people because they don't see themselves in the picture.
Starting point is 01:04:51 So when you come into the nation, you learn who is the original man? Man, the original man is the Asiatic black man, the maker, the owner, the cream of the planet earth, God of the universe. So I'm learning, man, I'm this powerful. So now I'm interested in doing better. I'm interested in myself.
Starting point is 01:05:07 I have this knowledge itself, me learning, about myself is fun. So now because I like it like I like basketball, I like it like college, I see myself in the picture. See, going to the NBA, that's what I saw. So I was doing whatever it took to get there. Now I see myself doing godly things. I see myself doing big things for the community. So that allows me to stay disciplined because if I know, because I know if I do something wrong, I'm going to go to jail. I do something wrong. I'm going to get killed or whether the case may be. I had this mindset playing basketball. Man, if I don't get my grades right, I ain't going to be to play basketball.
Starting point is 01:05:38 Man, if I skip school, I'm not gonna be able to play basketball. So I think a lot of us don't have a mission in life. The minister said, we're walking around, man, without an aim and a purpose. So until you discover what your purpose is and your aim is, it's hard for you to have direction. Imagine you're picking up your phone. Have you ever picked up your phone
Starting point is 01:05:55 and Siri just started giving you direction? No. Be crazy, right? It'll be crazy if I'm driving down the road and I let my window down and I say, hey Clayton, how do I get to what's the name? What's your gonna say? How do I get to, what's your,
Starting point is 01:06:07 I'm gonna call it. Man, you better Google that shit. Man, yeah. Well, what is it to Google if I didn't put a destination in? Yeah. So it ain't until you put a destination into your GPS until you get some direction from Siri. Gotcha.
Starting point is 01:06:19 So that's how I look at it, man. A lot of us don't have that destination in it. So now when you see this picture, man, and you see yourself in the picture and you see these great things, I want to build a nation. Man, we gotta build hospitals, we gotta build businesses. Now I got my destination in and now I can stay disciplined with my direction.
Starting point is 01:06:34 That's real. Well, that's dope, man. Yeah. I appreciate you stopping through the trap and blessing us with this good knowledge, man. No, thank you, yeah. Definitely. I'm success to you and keep pushing
Starting point is 01:06:46 that digital real estate, man. Yes, sir. And the real estate. You know? Nah. I'm still trying to get some money in this world. Well, I think y'all can do something with the NFTs as well. You know, y'all can do your own research,
Starting point is 01:07:00 but with the NFT, it's a non-fundgible token, and it's a digital asset as well. And the power of it, like let me give you an example let's say for example y'all selling a nfti and it costs you know 500 in ethereum or something like that only those people who have access or bought the actual nfti could get access to the website that offers y'all um y'all video but y'all do physical shows so y'all can say if you got this particular nfti then when you buy this nfti only people that can get into our physical shows to meet carlos to maybe do such and such and such and so on so y'all got to have this nfts then y'all got a higher package there's higher packages for black businesses so now this is two ethereum so that's probably like 8,000 4,000 whatever it costs and with this one you get access to be on the podcast once a quarter or once a year so why is it powerful why won't y'all just do it through a website well with the nfts if the more y'all grow and
Starting point is 01:08:00 get bigger the more valuable the nfts is going to be because y'all only got maybe 10 nfts So it's like the dollar or any other currency. As it starts to drop in supply, the demand or the price of it goes up, right? So here's the killer part. With NFTs, y'all can have a royalty put on it. So let's say I bought the, I bought the NFT and it's $4,000 or whatever the case may be. And now it don't win up. Y'all in the bigger space.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Y'all got more perks or whatever the case may be. Y'all audience is bigger, so being on the podcast is more worthy. Now I can flip that same NFT that I got for $4,000. Maybe now it's worth $10,000. but not only do I get paid y'all get paid too because you can put 10% royalties on there 20% royalties on there
Starting point is 01:08:40 so let's say at one point y'all got this package and now with $50,000 and y'all may say man anybody gonna pay $50,000 but the more bigger y'all get the more access and let's say y'all got some shows and now this particular NFT you're gonna have Kevin Gates there or whoever y'all like whoever a big artist is
Starting point is 01:08:57 and everybody who got this NFT is gonna be at the 85% show and y'all get to meet our special guests in the back, only the people that got this NFT. Well, I don't already utilize my NFT. I don't met, man, this person, I don't met this rapper. I'm fin to sell mine. But now we're selling for
Starting point is 01:09:13 $50,000. But remember, y'all got that 10% or that 20% royalty, so y'all get paid off of all the resells as well. So that's just the power of, you know, NFT. That's what I've been telling him, dog. I told him that, dog, thank you for reinforcing, you know, you had a few more
Starting point is 01:09:31 words that made it sound better. I might have messed up on fungible, so I might have called it a fungable. I don't know. But you got it. But that does make sense because every time you sell, you can still get something. Like, if you just go. I'm going to look into it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Okay. I look into it. Come on, man. You're talking about tokens. I'm talking about cash. It is a cash. It's a cash to. In perpetuity.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Yeah. They're paying crypto. See? Yeah. I'm going to cash. Yeah. What makes you want to do? the cash over the crowd.
Starting point is 01:10:04 And I'm not saying you should do the crypto over the cash. Just, hey man, cash ain't never let us down. Yeah. Not one time. You can trade your crypto into the cash. No, man. I've had enough trouble at the regular bank. That's a bad.
Starting point is 01:10:23 Where you can't put your own money out, huh? Exactly. Exactly. So yeah, man, I don't, can't even get cash. Can't even get cash now. Have you ever heard of private banking? Yeah, I heard of it. What'd you know about it?
Starting point is 01:10:39 It's private. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah. So, inside of your life insurance policy. Yeah, so inside of your life insurance policy, you may know, with the right policy set up, you can actually borrow from yourself. Tell them.
Starting point is 01:10:55 From your own bank. I know. Yeah. So you can borrow money from your own banking. You can got to worry about them not giving you $10,000 when you go to the bank. and you redraw a cash free, I mean tax free. And it still grows at 4% to 8% as if you never put it out. Yeah, it does.
Starting point is 01:11:11 You know, that's one of the interesting things we're here after Farms is because a lot of this you already know. A lot of this stuff our people don't know. So one key part here after Farms is people say, well, how can I be a part? And we like, and they think it's just land. Like, oh, how can I buy an acre? And we're like, actually, we have classes.
Starting point is 01:11:32 We have something called Here After Academy. Here After Academy teaches you some basic life skills. One is a farming class. Every night of the week, we have a different class. We also partner with other people, so we have a trust that people can get educated on. They can learn about trust and irrevocable versus revocable and private and land trust.
Starting point is 01:11:50 And they can even purchase that through somebody that we work with. But we have these classes every night. So one night we'll have a farming class. One night we'll show you how to take the seeds that we send you. So every member here at the farms also get seeds. So we send every member seeds because we don't just want people to buy land and live in
Starting point is 01:12:08 the community. Not everybody's going to move to Georgia. Not everybody's going to buy land. Even if you are, that doesn't mean you know how to farm. So we want everybody to be on the same page mentally, not just being the same physical space. So my brother, he's sharing all his knowledge because the more people notice, no man can rise higher than the people around them. The minister said that it's impossible. So we all have to uplift one another, right? So through educating our people, we show people how to grow these seeds. We send them curated seeds. And we have classes on Zoom
Starting point is 01:12:39 with our farmers called seed to harvest, where people learn how to grow these plants in their house or in their backyard. We also have a homeopathy course where a woman teaches you how to be a doctor at home, how to heal yourself, how to take care of yourself and your family.
Starting point is 01:12:54 What if there's an emergency? Plus, everybody don't trust the hospital. I know my mom didn't. So people need to know how to take care themselves at home. with a tiny little home garden. You can literally grow medicine right there in your home and you can break it down and treat it
Starting point is 01:13:05 and put it on your children as needed. Right then you home, you just need to know how. That's it. We have another brother teaching disaster preparedness and disaster prep and survival training. What do he be talking about? So he teaches you how to do the walkie-talkie. He teaches you how to read.
Starting point is 01:13:20 Like how to program the walkie-talkie, how to keep them in a certain place for you and your family. I'm not the instructor, so don't ask me too many more. I thought you took it. I thought you took it. So he teaches you how to program the walk you talk you, how to put it in position, how to have a go back, what to put in that bag,
Starting point is 01:13:37 how to reorientate your mind to be ready for things to come up. Because a lot of us function, and we know life is gonna go a certain way, and we function well within a system that was designed for us. But once you try to break out of that system, sometimes things come up that's unexpected. So he trains you mentally on how to prepare for those unexpected things, also physically.
Starting point is 01:13:56 The honorable minister little Sfarikon teaches us that it's a mental component to every physical thing, you see. So he first comes into mine and then he shows you where to go and buy. We don't sell the stuff. We ain't got Amazon links and nothing like that. We just tell the people what they need to take care of themselves and their families. And we also have his sister that teaches food prep. She tells you how to take food and can it, which is major. Food storage is major. It's a famine coming. There's a food shortage coming. You can take it to leave it. It's going to be difficult to find good healthy food for you and your family
Starting point is 01:14:30 in the very near future. This sister's teaching people how to can at home and how to store food, how to prep food, how to use food, and how to save food, and even how to reuse food. Goes through the whole cycle. Yeah. What you mean, reuse?
Starting point is 01:14:46 So you can, you can. Like leftovers, my mama mastered that. Don't tell me, don't tell me, don't tell my mom's gonna be like, she ain't come up with it, that wasn't me. No, I'm just wait. I'm just ready. We need to get her on a class, Zoom, leftover, dude.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Spaghetti up first and get the cheese milk itself. Yeah. We're talking too much about food, man. Oh, that's crazy. Nah, man, we just mess around, but we appreciate y'all coming through and kicking. You got some, you're doing in the metaverse? You got some, you're doing something in the metaverse?
Starting point is 01:15:18 Yeah, I'm building the world. You ain't even tell me about the metaverse. Is he supposed to talk about it? You didn't. No. Because you looked at her like she did, she do something What I'm doing in the Metaverse, man, a lot of people, when you put them,
Starting point is 01:15:34 y'all ever had the Oculus on, y'all have it? I ain't got one, man. I'm scared of it a little bit. It's like a really a whole world, man. And I really can see that a lot of people are gonna migrate there. It's a whole new way to interact. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:15:47 So like literally, if I got the goggles on and you're in a whole other state, I can look like this and this is you. And then if we're talking back and forth, we can pull up a computer screen and work together in the work room. But what I'm doing, I'm building a whole world on that where people will be able to literally come into my own museum, my own artwork, art museum, my own school, right there in the Metaverse. You'll be able to come in the class, sit in the desk, and literally see me teaching in class.
Starting point is 01:16:13 And I'm going to be selling digital real estate in there. It's going to get to a point where I got so many people in there where people are going to rent out of room. So like the same, I believe that digital real estate is going to be just as valuable as the physical real estate. in physical real estate is value because it's limited, you know, 57,000, 255,000 square miles of land. However, with the Metaverse, it's like so many people are going there, the same way I will pay y'all to do an ad on your show because y'all got so many people there, I'm going to literally have buildings where you can go into the studio, you can go upstairs, you can do a podcast room, and it's going to be built out, so when you see it and you put the goggles on,
Starting point is 01:16:49 you're going to feel like you're really walking through a whole entire world. So that's what I'm doing with the Metaverse, man. It's going to be a whole world where people will be able to put businesses in there. And as they integrate the NFTs, I'll literally be able to have a mall in there where a mall can be built out and we got different storefronts where y'all may have the 85 South Show in there.
Starting point is 01:17:06 A NFT that's literally in there that they can buy and actually you. Yeah, because they're gonna have to wear some t-shirts when they end up. Yeah, yeah. So y'all can sell those shirts as NFTs and get me a comedy club. Put them out of avatars on them.
Starting point is 01:17:17 There you go. Yeah, it's hard. Man, I'm about to go ahead and put more. Man, you heard too much about it. Man, I told them about that too. No, eight five. I'm gonna check out this literature, how to eat to live and all that.
Starting point is 01:17:33 Yeah. Anything else you wanna hit them with before we out of here? No, man, that's it, man. I appreciate y'all for having us on the platform. It's for coming, yeah. My item's been blowing y'all up, tagging y'all. Yeah, they have, yeah. I believe you told them to do it.
Starting point is 01:17:47 Yeah, I did. Yeah. Man, what I gotta do to get on that 85 South shit? Who you got to know? Hey, Ben, it is, man. I have to talk, man. But, no, man, I don't got nothing, man. I am about to drop the digital real estate program again
Starting point is 01:18:01 just to show people how to scale online. So, again, digital for real.com. They'll really learn step by step how I did it, how I grow to all my platforms, all the ones that got deleted, et cetera. And then, you know, of course, follow, you know, at here at the farms, and then just stay tuned for the world that I'm about to build.
Starting point is 01:18:20 It's going to be pretty dope. So we're building a world physically, but for those who can't get out to house, We've been in the world up there in the Metaverse as well, because I know y'all gonna be on it. Yeah, man. Well, there you have it, folks. Step your Metaverse world up, and we're out of here.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Hey. Yeah. Good thing, man. Thank you. Jee. Jee. Hey, good. All right.
Starting point is 01:18:42 Thank you, bro. Y'all like the evil version of each other. You all had to do the face on. They're going to play us in a movie. Well, we should walk off. Right. I love it. When the money comes, we'll be like this.
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