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So I ain't ever want to, I ain't want to be responsible for losing the music before the album come out. Hey, man, I love you, man. I was 12 when that came out. Come on, man. Twelve. I was 12. I'm just saying, that's just how young. When I hear this nigga, this nigga ain't.

This nigga was, by the grace of God, this nigga got by. Because everybody knows me now. This thing was terrible. Bruh. This nigga was terrible. The nigga was wet. The first thing, wet. Right around one deep.

Saw those shotgun. I saw that shotgun. I saw it in my bedroom. Which, fuck my leg up because I ain't know how long it's gonna take. I, like, bought a pistol, I mean a shotgun, and sawed it off. And, man, when I said I was out, I would just ride around looking for trouble. And they get nothing to adjust him. Like, I would be out, like, trying to, what's that?

He got to adjust your mic. Oh, go ahead. The pet. He said, round, round, looking for trouble. Whole shit, now. This is the one be that go get the door with no, ride around with no shoes on. That nigg said round while I went. Nick, don't understand that, yo.

Go on. Play stupid. Off that frack. Big as a mouth. He's been crying, but they now tear drop. He's just, like you been crying? They're now till dropped. And it's an intensifying drug, right?

So if you, if you, if you get wet, you're going to be super paranoid. Right. But if you crunk when you get wet, you can't calm. Yeah. You can't come. You can't, like, every nick can't take you down. Right. That's done.

You don't feel nothing. Nothing. Right. You know what I'm saying? So fighting a wet nigger really don't get you nowhere. No way. Nope. It altered the mental state. Like it's an autumn. It's for sure an alter mental state. It should make you get butt-necked and all. Man, every time you get wet is a bad trip. It's all bad. I'm just looking at it. Like for many years after I stopped getting wet, every now and then if you sweat or you go, you do something, you can smell it coming out your pores. Coming out your spores.

PC feet, man It's a very distinct smell Yeah, that shit stinks It's a very, very distinct smell So would you And every time I go to D.C. I ain't never been a concert or D.C. Yep.

Yes, sir. You know it. I'm from the city. That's what it is, man. Them niggas, I remember walking in the Pop men's niggas with jugs of that shit, man. Stinking like a motherfucker.

And it's different than how every city like in the West Coast is Sherm so they would dip the Sherman's cigarette And where we were there We call it fry out. Y'all call it a little boat. Yeah, dip of a little boat. You know what I'm saying?

In New York. It was down here. I'm glad I didn't get this. New York is, they could say it dust, right? Because New York, they dip tea leaves. Uh-huh. They dip tea leaves, and then they crumble the tea leaves, and they lace the weed with that. Damn.

That's how they get wet. With the tea leaves? Yeah. I add your herb, like another tea leaf that's good for you. But you put that in the blunt. You get super high. One of the first stories I ever heard about my father, they were smoking both. and the nigger got too high and got the tripping

and they, instead of giving them some milk to bring them down, they put them in the tub and ran water on them and a nigger went to a coma. Two days. There. My cousin, I don't know him, I never met him, but one of the first stories I heard about my cousin, the nigger was smoking boat back in the day

they were smoking that shit, you know, because they make you hot. Like they say it make you real hot, that's why motherfuckers take your shit, take all your clothes off and shit. You said they get butt-nick. Yeah, that's why them niggas get butt-naker because they get real hot.

Like, you get internally hot, so niggas stripped. So this nigga stripped down. Went to chasing behind the metro bus. They ain't never seen him again. Damn. Yeah, that shit. I didn't, when I tell you, like, my teenage years, that's what niggas was on. Like, that's why I was all.

I never did drugs. Never did drugs. I'm my contemporary. Never did drugs until I went to college because. Big Mike, Scarface. Yeah. You know what I mean? I smoke dip with gangster nip.

You know what I mean? You know what I'm saying? Like, that shit scared me so bad. Get away with gangsta nip them was wild. Being in the streets. Give me a gangster nip story. Ain't nobody gave us a big. It wasn't even a story.

It was a way of life. Like, you go to nip them house, like it was nipping. And, and, right. So, you have nip there. You have Klondite cat there. And you have, like, maybe Pharaoh and Frye and Icy Hyde. And then I'm from, um, I can't say I wasa. Everybody from.

I never saw a young K in there, but... I'm gonna forget for a street military, but yeah, no, you go in there to be no electricity and I was a dope house. You're so dope out there. My niggas is wet, they eating cereal. They would eat Captain Crunch raw, like out the box. Right. And they'd be slapboxing and freestyle and this shit.

Right. Just in a hot-ass dope house. Yeah, yeah. You're on wet, eating Captain Crunch and tear the roof of your mouth. Man, I couldn't wait. I couldn't wait to get over there. Right. I couldn't wait to get over there.

get over that and just be in that space and just I don't know man it's just wet is not something that you want to do on your own right like you don't want to just be sitting around getting wet by yourself that's just bad business oh trust me that bad because if shit go bad there's nobody to help you no like I got wet one time and we was in upstairs an apartment and I looked out and my car was moving so I ran out and I grabbed the front end of my car and I told niggumann go in and hit the emergency break and come my car is moving and they couldn't convince me for about two I would have two hours. I couldn't convince me my car wouldn't move. I'm outside holding the front end

of my, my Buick Park Avenue. My man got... Oh, it was so Park. God rest his soul. God rest his soul, nigga. I'd never forget. My man thought a nigga stole his feet. He got smoked a dipper. Fell asleep as girl took his shoes off. Nigger woke up.

Tripping. I'm in the front room playing mad and they get to yelling. Ah! Ah! I'm like, man, what the fuck? I run in the back room. I'm like, man, what the fuck wrong with you? Slam? He was like, man. Hey, what the fuck, bro? What you fuck? You're like, they steal my feet. I'm like, oh, this nigga tripping.

So I go outside. I tell everybody, hey, man, come in this nigga tripping. So we're trying to get the nigga to realize the nigga, your feet still on you. This girl had, too. So she in the corner crying lunched out. So my man put his shoes back on him. He's like, oh, I'm back. I'm back.

I'm back. Get the hugging niggas and shit. I say, mine ain't never doing this shit. You probably got up and walked forward. Yeah, I didn't have a hell on. True story, man. That shit is different, man. Like, growing up in the city, man, that's all niggas was on.

That's why I just was, I'm real skeptical about niggas who are on that shit because you end up having to do something to your partner off that shit because they lose your whole concept of reality. It's addictive? Is it addictive or it's just? Yeah, every drug is addictive. Don't fool yourself. But every joint that you be like, no, I'm a chill.

It's literally like people that will suck dick for weed. Damn. That's extreme. It seemed like a lot. It seemed like a lot because weed is plentiful and weed is cheap. My motherfuckers is broken lazy. Damn.

I knew a bitch you would do that. Ask the weed man. Ask the weed man how much puss in head he gets. Right. I was just for the same. Ports seven. Yeah. For a seven.

Just the smoke of blood. I'm like, what are you here? She's like, you got some weed. I'm like, hey, yeah. Pull on. I'm like. I'm like. Cheaper than a steak.

Cheaper. That's crazy. You dig what I'm saying? But then, like, what the crazy thing was, to get the wet, like, what we used to get it from back in the day, shout out. They used to get it from Nord back in the day. And, um, nor to be wet. So that'd be a whole adventure. Trying to get the wet from a nigga that's wet.

Oh, my God. You got it? Because ain't no telling me. Ain't no telling what he going to be on when you pull up at the house. Oh, nigga, what? Oh, my God. He may be on whatever. I've seen niggas do some of the wild this shit.

I'm talking about, man, you think I can jump from this building to that build? No. Oh, nigger, you're going to die. I can't die. I can't die. I'm God. You're like, oh, these niggas. Yeah.

Bunched out, man. You was jumping. I had a nigga jump from, I had a rapper jump out of the driver's seat to where I was, like, telling me it was my, like, telling me it was your turn to drive. Yeah. So he in your seat. We went going down I-10, we had the freak neck. It's me and Big Mike and the dude DA from the black monks. We on the interstate.

Here, you go to social media pay. He told the story. and he ended in the backseat he don't get hot so he in the back seat me and big Mike wet so we're probably around somewhere close to New Orleans

or whatever Mike was like Bunby it's your time to drive I'm like pull over nah I can't pull over I'm gonna jump over and you get over and get the wheel

they're doing about 80 in the state I'm like what you're talking about Mike just pull out one Mike don't do this shit Mike please don't do this shit please

two Lord and the nigga in the backseat is like He's really like please don't do this and he's cream Because he had to ride with us And that was already something I knew God bless D-A, good nigga I've been knowing him for many of him went to school together I knew that was the last car he wanted to be in

Right Like I said I'm a different nigga now Right You know what I'm saying? You can tell I don't ride with them And that nigga said three and jumped from out of there man And by the grace of God

And you go hear that a lot As I talk about my life I got around And this is a big man. And I'm bigger then, too. Like, I'm small or not, but shit, I probably would have been at least $2.80, $2.90 back then.

And Mike, at least the same. And, like, I don't know how I caught their wheel. It didn't swerve and flip on the highway. What was y'all drive? What kind of car was? Suburban. That's a good-assed car right now. That's a good-ass front-in alignment.

Yes, it is. Damn. You saw the Scarface Tiny Death. Oh, yeah. It was beautiful. This was born, Carpey was born for that. That was beautiful. This is the first time I think most people have actually seen Scarface

in the way he's been wanting to be seen. Like him with the first of all, he's a musician. Like, he's a musician. So he takes, you know, playing the guitar and playing songs with the band very seriously. They practice a lot. But it's not something he gets to do a lot because nightclub, it really can't really facilitate it.

And most people that want to see Scarface want to hear rap songs. And he got a very deep music history, you know what I'm saying, knowledge. You can play anything, rap, R&B, rock, soul, whatever it is. But the room don't really be wanting it from him sometime. This is like him finally being able to get into a space that was going to allow him to show everything that Scarface is. You know what I'm saying? Actually being able to break down, like the way he rapped in the room

gave more poignancy to lyrics that were already full of depth and weight. what I'm saying. You really got to be like, damn, this nigga really was saying some very, very deep shit. Reese's father and his hand out. Yeah, I mean, it's all the way. It's beautiful that the world

finally gets to see him how he's always wanted to be seen. Man, and the reward. I saw his face quote forever is real gangst's ass niggas don't run from shit because real gangsts ass niggas don't laugh at. Don't run bad, I'm telling you. Yeah, and then, you know,

being from D.C., man, face was always a pillar in growing up And, like, you'll see a lot of people that really treat Face like he's from D.C. Because, you know what I mean? I remember seeing Face walking up and down. I used to work at a barbershop on Georgia Avenue. Face used to be walking up and down Georgia Avenue by itself back in the day. And then he would go and play live with the go-go bands.

He would just show up and just rap with backyard for hours. And the city loved his music because the way that he set the narrative, I mean, just all of the Down South music. That's how I fell in love with them so much. D.C. feel like Houston. Yeah. Like, it's very strange to go that far east and to be around the city

with that close of a proximity to New York that is so un-New York. Like, there's no element, maybe boots. That's about the only thing y'all have in common. Is the Timberland. That's about it. And it was off-putting because niggas sound like us, talk like us, act like us,

and love, like, between UGK. Scarface and A-Ball and MJG, I don't really know what most. D.C. would want from you. You know what I'm saying? Like, they always made us feel like we was hung. And, of course, I was getting wet, so that was a plus.

Right. You get good wet. But then the whole go-go aspect to everything, you know, meeting Big G. And, you know, getting very close and actually being, like, in the spot. Before I played with go-go bands, I would go and watch backyard play

and just be in the room. You know what I'm saying? like the late night shit and then somebody proposed it was right when Pimp came home it was when first out of town show we did when Pimp came home it was like and I kind of had to explain it

it was like we're going to go and we're going to do our shit the rap version we're going to do a whole show you know what I'm saying one hour Bumc Mbc UGK music for an hour and then we're going to go upstairs and we're going to do it again but with the go-go band and he was like

in the same club to the same people yes that's exactly how they wanted. Yeah. And they're gonna pay us with it. Yes, you're gonna get paid. Wow. Yes, sir. Shit, hell yeah.

You know? And then we came in a little early and sat with the band and, you know, they had already had the song memorized. It was just some of them. You had that little off tempo and, you know what I'm saying? But man, that shit was real easy. It took about 30 minutes for us to be like, oh no, this is it. This is nothing.

Like, let's go. And you just kind of flow with the band because it's very fluid. It's not as concrete as it would be with your normal show. normal show because some songs you might do a song that's normally 3.30, four minutes long and that bitch might go for seven minutes because the band just vibing and they might get into a bass guitar solo or some shit like that. A nigga might go hard on the bongos for a couple minutes and it just be that. Next thing you know, we're doing front, back side of the side for 10 minutes in this. You know what I'm saying? And it feels great. Now, DC always, man, really open up their doors

to everybody from Houston for some reason, man. I don't know nobody from that has ever been to D.C. feel like some kind of automatic kinship. I don't know how y'all built this beautiful southern empire. It's very southern. It's very southern. It's very southern driven. But if you can't get... Maybe because it's so black. So many black people.

I mean, there's more black people in New York, though, because New York got more people in general. You know what I'm saying? And y'all, like, as far east damn as you can go, which is crazy. But then y'all right there with Virginia and Virginia's. Virginia's, they south. What's another place that gave, like, a whole lot

love that you didn't expect like y'all fuck with us like this out here that shocked you really i won't even say the east coast necessarily east coast did give us a lot of love but i think it was like going to detroit and detroit it's the same way kind of like kind of like dc like they got their own identity which is evident but they still not to be that far east coast they're not new york that should be very all putting to me i thought because you know new jersey is so close New Jersey is a lot like New York and Connecticut It's so close to Connecticut used to be Very similar to New York

Connecticut got gangbangers and shit Now it's really wild But like going to Detroit and like Now I'll say Chicago I'll say Chicago I had no idea It was like that for you GK in Chicago even it was And this was like the old Chicago

Like Cabrini Chicago you know what I'm saying And like to go into these cities that were very gangsters are very specific and their gangsterism and how you moved in the city like to be embraced by niggas that don't need to embrace nobody but don't typically really fuck with

niggas like outside town, out of town people to get that kind of love it always was, I always felt like it was different for us. You know what I'm saying? Because we didn't, we never cared ourselves like we'll whip everybody or no shit like that or we the toughest niggas in town. We ain't, after the city we couldn't bring no pistol so we knew we wouldn't know, you know,

if shit got really real things was going to happen, We tried to show people respect when we went to their city. You know what I'm saying? It wasn't about, I don't know, about checking in and nothing to that, but we would always find the realest. We sat around by the realest niggins in time. We would hollet niggas cuck up with us, smoke some weed, chop it up. Back then it was very easy to find out who was a nigger in time.

Right. Because it wasn't no bunch of different crews and shit like that. Oh, you're going up to Detroit, oh, you need to hollet and so-and-so in them. And then you hollet, so-and-so in them. You hollet, bring some weed, y'all talk, kicking or whatever. And then you fucking with so-and-so in for the next 20 years. until maybe a nigga get killed or God forbid or do some time

but niggas I met in New Orleans niggas I still fuck with in New Orleans now it's only really three of us left out of a group of like eight niggas it's only like three of us left but that's kind of how these things happen you tap in with real niggas that are really actually tied into the city

but because they tied into the city should be happening like should be happening for real this nigga here What's wrong with the pack? Somebody was fucking with the pack. They've been fucking with the pack, man. What the fuck that dude? That little twirl.

Just let it go in. It just took it. This is... Don't sit on a wrap it, just let it go in. Don't let your home boy get you in. Don't touch and put the wad tail on his ass. That's what cat said. I didn't say that. Pause on cat.

Dave, what up? Hey, can we cut some of these lights down? 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1. 3, 2, 1. These lives ain't doing nothing? What about these? One, two, three. Three into the full.

I'm a grown man. There's some hair out here. There's some hell that he's close. That Mike is in the bushes. His mic is deep in the backwoods. Let's let you go. Take your time. Bro.

Smoke break. Small break, small brag. Jack is hard, man. I appreciate it. OJ, I got you one too. A jag? Yeah. In green, oh man, that's my color.

Come on, Joan. How did I know, Joe? That's my color. I'm gonna pull that Mary Trillman's hat back out. Yeah, that's her ski. That's our ski. Cory Moe here? Oh, that's what's up?

Yeah, unfortunately. Oh, you see, I'm fortunate. Yeah, he typically want to be where I'm at. Well, good. I mean, I hope the office still stays that you gave him. No, I just left it. I brought the song. That's what I'm telling him.

I went and that's what took me. That's why I got here a little late. I went straight to the studio from the plane and laid the song. Okay. So you would already have some reference for the content and subject or whatever. Oh, it's going up. Going crazy on that bitch. And then I did another song.

Okay. But just because I was there, I did another song. Gotcha. If this is your way of telling us we and U.G.K., I'm about to crack. No. That membership was already like. We didn't add no new members. Oh, shit.

They had no new members. When I'm gone, we subtracted the last niggas. So it's all that's subtracted from here. Yeah. I'm with you. It just, it couldn't be. It couldn't be no more. It couldn't be nothing new.

It's it. It's just, it's nothing to add. Right. There's nothing to add to it. Boy, as a nigger who got your music in my DNA, I just got to say thank you. Man, thank you. That shit is...

That's part of my blueprint. Man, who you, nigga? You already know. There, I mean... This nigga, here, P.M.C. Bonn, B. I mean... Oh, it's evident. Crazy.

It's evident. Crazy. It's ridiculous, man. You know what I mean? The nigga wouldn't even diss me on the rap at the show. Right. He said, I can't do it.

No, man, I'm not doing it. I'm not putting that on my rest of the... Hell, nah, nigga. I'll be ranking on niggas in school, so I were waiting for it. Not for me, you won't get that. I'm saying that, okay, this way. I was just more than all the fact that this nigga knew who I was. Like, you get, I don't know if y'all, you know, understand, like, guys of your ilk or from your era.

But, you know, that confirmation to get that confirmation to know that, to know that y'all paying attention to what we got going on. Because like you said, when you were talking about the niggas in certain places, you don't have to be welcoming niggas. You can, you don't have to be friendly. Niggas, absolutely, no. Just, to be fair, some niggas is just hoes about it. That's kind of like what they feel like it's part of their mystique to act like they don't, niggas know. Niggas absolutely no.

Real rap niggas know every nigga that's out here rapping down there. You know what I'm saying? Some of these niggas is funny. They're just funny niggas. And then you get funny niggas money, and they feel like the money and the fame co-sign their behavior. It confirms the funny niggins. You know what I'm saying?

You ain't hit a ball And people tend Look, if everybody was a real nigga And everybody was solid More people would be successful You know what I'm saying But it's more of fuck niggas than it is real niggas And that's why there aren't more successful real people

Because a lot of fuck niggas held a lot of people back purposely Like made it their life's work To just make sure this nigga wasn't going to be nobody Because people when you grow up like when you grow up niggas, you be around niggas and you assume this nigga gonna be exactly who he is at 12, he peed in the bed, you assume he gonna grow up just be a grown nigga

that peeing the bit. All this type of shit, you feel like when you go to high school, like the picking order is already laid as who gonna be the shit, the basketball, nigga, the football, the cheerleader. You know what I'm saying?

It's like they already decided who's gonna be the shit and who ain't. And then life happens. And niggas start coming up out of nowhere, getting money and making something out of their That's the part I love. And it throw, but they throw their whole shit off.

Yeah. Because if I said I'm the shit, and I said he wasn't shit, and he's doing better than me. And I ain't got shit who, it's, it fuck up the order of everything. The fine girl in the school never ended up being the finest girl all her life. You know what I'm saying? And then the tables turned and the niggas that wanted her back then that she turned her nose up, niggas wouldn't touch you with a 10-foot pole now. The niggas doing something for themselves, got something they realized you would,

You were cute for about two and a half years. Four summers. You know. Two semesters a whole. Same thing with women dealing with niggas is, you know, everybody don't make it to college. You know what I'm saying? The best football player in your school

might be 25th in the state if he'd lucky. Never get that scholarship. But she didn't got pregnant for the nick. Dicking the nigger for to do something. Now he's just a nigga that used to play football talking about who he was at the 12th grade all the time. That ain't know. Now how my chick was in high school,

She was like, you're in the street. I heard you just got to a shootout. I can't be with you. And I'm like, okay, so the nigger you got here in school. I'm like, but when I tried doing school, you want to fuck with me. Now, a year later, go by, you had a baby by this nigga. This nigga don't even want to go to school no more. I'm in the street, but I've got money.

I'm like, baby, we can go to the movies and talk about the shit. You got to take care of a whole other nigga who you thought were going to be better than me. Nothing look at you. You have to give yourself enough time in life to be aware what the options play out to be you get to nothing in the first girl you fucking you and give yourself no odds you just stuck kind of stuck where you are in that position and when I say stuck I don't mean you you are your next 18 years are predetermined right for you you know

I'm saying whatever it was that was driving you to go and be who it was you wanted to go and be like now you have another another priority that's demanding that you step it up now right so if you had a four year plan or a six year plan or eight year plan to be successful that's cool but But you won't have to go bag some groceries to do something on year one because it's baby here. Right. Now, you know, my brother wanted to go and be in the military and all of that. He got his high school girlfriend, pregnant. Then he called a case, couldn't go in the military.

By the time he got off of paper and he four-five cheering night, you can't go in the military. It just, you have to give yourself time, man, to see exactly how this shit might play out, you know. Are you from Port Arthur, like, that's a smaller town, right? Yeah, one of the smallest. What was your experience growing up in a small town? They had an aspiration to be a big star. So for me it was different because I was born in a big town and moved to the small town. You know what I'm saying?

I had always been going to Port Arthur all my life because I had a lot of family there. When my mom and daddy got divorced, because my mama is the oldest of her brother and sisters, but my grandmother was still having other children. And my great-grandmother was still having children. So, yeah, so my mom was. are really like her cousins because they're the same age. Sound like me. You know what I'm saying? They were all kind of like

the same age. So all her and all my mama's aeney's, all my grandmother's sisters were still living in Port Arthur. So that was her support sister. Oh, I got a huge family. My mama's family, my mama had 13 brothers and sisters

and two adoptives. Like, you know them cousins that you all end up raised. And then my daddy had, I want to say, 10, maybe 11 brothers and sisters. You know what I'm saying? All of them have at least four children and now we all got children

and grandchildren. So I got probably between 85 and 100 first cousins. God, dang. No, but that's a real family. But see, my mama got 10 sisters. Because I got them on my mama's side and my daddy side. One of my cousins is my mama's brother

married by daddy's cousin. So we kid twice. I'm going to see him. I'm going to see him back. And you're in regards. Yeah. No cat. Cug off.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And then all my family from Louisiana, they speak French, but they didn't teach us French. But that's how they would talk about growing shit in front of kids. Okay. They jump in and out the shit, but they never teach us the shit. And everybody was telling you learn Spanish because you lived in Texas and Louisiana. And now everybody that speaks French with my family going to die with it and none of us can carry that on.

I said, see what y'all get. Like me and my cousin woke up. He's like, hey man, he liked it. He was like, did they teach you French? Teach me, not that shit. I mean, I don't think they taught none of us French. And they knew how to speak French. And we were like, oh, no, eloquently.

Like, my family's all, like, Cajun people. So they spoke it very well, but they'd be in front of the kids. And, child, you know, Jean-Fa-sebis, do I have something? Right? You know what I'm saying? And so as you got, the most you, the more you would listen, you could draw some context out of certain things. You could get bits and pieces.

Just like if you be, if you, like I'm in Texas, it's a lot of Spanish that's spoken around me. I can get bits and pieces based on what the conversation is going on in the room type of shit. But, but, yeah, I get, I said all that side. I got a big-ass family. We got it. I'm about to do a family reunion, right? Because I never, not say I was concerned with my grandfather. Now, I'm only speaking on my daddy side.

Now, I need my mom's side, because that's who I've been with since I was a baby. On my daddy side, I know my grandmama, his mama. She had two brothers and a sister. I know the sister never met the brother. Mr. Lewis had eight more kids. So I got a whole bunch of cousins that I just found out that was my cousin, but I'm just thinking they grew up in the neighborhood, but found out they my grandmama, her brother, grandkids.

these are my cousins I'm thinking they just stayed in the neighborhood now I got my daddy daddy who had 12 sisters and brothers and all them all them in Philadelphia Miami

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AXS.com. Now, check this out. I'm going to give you old, just how old my tree here. My granddad, which is my daddy daddy, his niece. You bullshit. I'm telling you. Wait, I'm involved. Listen, my friend daddy, which is my daddy daddy daddy.

His niece, which is his sister's daughter. Right. Ninety-four. My cousin. You got a 94-year-old cousin? I got a 94-year-old cousin. Boy, this nigga, D.C. As a motherfucker.

How would you explain who you are to her? She knows me. Her mind is vividly. When she say my daddy name, like when my cousin says, you know Sonny? Yeah, I know Sonny. That's Woot-Woot. That's Hattie's boy. Yeah, and that was your dad. And that's your dad. And that's your dad. Because she's no me. Yeah. Where I make him your third cousin, right for more.

Hattie is my brother's wife. Nope. Hattie is my uncle's wife. That's what it is. That'd be the best shit, though. The calculator broke, by the way. When it comes to computing how many niggas you can, too, the calculator is broke at this point. But he did the thing that a lot of people, but did the thing with Black family zoo. We only stop at our grandparents. Your grandparents have siblings. That's also your cousins. Like when I have grandchildren, I don't want them to be like, all right, granddad. I'm like, no, you got a crazy auntie, which is my sister, which is your great aunt. She got kids,

which are my nephews, which are your cousins. Your family trees don't just start with me. It goes on and on. And I'm going to tell you how old old your folk really is. The great uncle, 130. 130. This nigga is Ken to By the time they had that car to tape. By the time they had that cover.

Well, about a hundred now. So who's going to be genealogies? I want one. It's a cat that he's been doing genealogy, and my wife found him, and she brought him over to us, and he went through my tree.

And he got literally the dude that came from, like, Italy or France somewhere, and came and fucked and made all of us. like all of us like and I'm kidding to so many people that would a French part come in exactly I'm kidding

to so many people that are like from this one person like he went through everybody like oh your grandmother from here your grand woo woo woo okay so actually your great grandmother and his great grandmother and that dude great grandmother

are cousins because they all have the same aunt and then this dude is from the uncle And so you can to him, too, but all y'all can to this, they send me the picture and everything. He brought me like- You gotta know how the family tree is brought about. You can be kids, but then you can't be kin. If you know where to stop it, because y'all can have a correlated sibling.

You dig what I'm saying? Like my uncle wife, once my uncle wife had kids, right? And they had kids. Cool. That's how we related to my uncle-wife because of my uncle-wife. of my uncle and them of his children. Now, my uncle wife's brother had babies with my cousin.

But that didn't stop my uncle wife from going to mess with my cousin because he's like, we're family. No, the family tree. No, no, Bobby Woback. Yeah, no, no, Bobby, he ain't watching, bro. This thing and this thing, yeah, man, this boy, boy, I'm telling you.

You don't have me thinking about this shit late. For real. I'm telling you. Like, so D.C. cousin was married to his great-un. Be like them numbers in the matrix, man. I'm telling you, brother shit. Lick, bro. You had to be, like, the best little boy in math class.

Didn't remember all this shit? Oh, yeah, I'm a good math, nigga. One thing about it, and I know how it worked. Because I just sat with my cousin yesterday, and we were just going through family trees and all that. And I'm just watching my granddad, like, looking at my granddad. We hadn't trimmed that family tree so much. It's just a bush.

I can't remember. I was smoking with yesterday, much less. But so, I'm just in tree. I'm intrigued about why I know trying to figure out what we come from. Which one? The baby one or the oldest one? The oldest one? He's got to it old at a day He got to be

I think he used to babysit my grandfather I think my older brother is 69 That's hard Got a grandbrother That's hard What y'all do together Argue That why I got an old soul

That you ain't winning no argument With a nigga that got a 69 year old brother He's gonna say some shit to you You ain't heard And you jabs motherfuck You been cussed that real different Yeah I've been cut.

I've been cussed real different. They tried to sit you down. I ain't gonna argue. Oh, okay. All right. Don't nobody. That's why you couldn't read you in third grade. Yeah, yeah.

Don't nobody called. Don't nobody cuss your ass out like an old man. Oh, hell not. When an old niggins say the cuss word in the middle of when he cussing you out, you old motherfucker you? Did that that dig a nigga, did he know you when you was a baby that you was his baby brother? Or did you meet him later in life? He was one of them baby brus.

where he's like, I don't think that child belong to daddy. Oh, well, that was predetermined. I'm like, God, die. Was he the baby before you? No, he was the oldest. Oh, that's, that's that different hate. He ain't like none of y'all. No, I'm trying to tell you, nigga, I ain't been like since I got him.

And you got a newborn baby brother? You're like, nigga, what the fuck? You should be happy that daddy's getting some pussy. You should be more concerned about your grandkids than your daddy kids at that point. That's crazy. That's crazy, man. I ain't but 50. I got grandkids.

Younger then, he's 69 now. I'm 31. So he was in his 30 then. In his feelings. In his feelings. About some cheering. About a month old baby that can't even hold his neck up. Trauma, man.

You hanged on a nigga that can't even see you. Who talking about me? Is he bald now? Who? Your brother, all y'all got half. Yeah, he bar. Yeah, that's why he made. He bawled.

He saw it as a baby. He saw it. This nigga half. No, I fought with him, though. He's a good nigga, though. You know, he's just old nigg. You know, them old nigg. to be mad by anything.

That's me. I'm an old nigger. You know, old nigger now? You consider to yourself, do you, at this point, you consider yourself to be... Yeah, yeah, I'm an old nigga. I'm a survivor, nigg, huh?

That's the only thing you can say about an old nigger, he survived. Yeah. I take pride in these years now. I know what it took to get here. Right. You know, it's a lot of niggas I moved with, man, in this world that didn't make it this far.

Obviously, my right hand. Yeah, you're right. Didn't make it this far. And so I take pride in the fact that I live this long. And I'm still, like, actually pretty good at what I do. I still think I'm good at what I do. Still actually appreciated for doing it.

Got other shit going on. You know what I'm saying? Shows I'm getting paid more now than I've ever been paid before to rap because I don't have to. So they got to pay me extra to give me to leave the crib with I got other shit going on. So it just, you know, the blessings are really coming in, man. I put a lot of hard work in.

I say quiet. I didn't say too much about a lot of shit that happened. and that shit don't really benefit me or whatever, whatever happened, happened. I'm here now, and this is where we're at. So I put a lot of bullshit to the side to just open myself up to be blessed, and it came and rained in the pole.

Man, speaking of your right hand, man, I hear a lot of people speculate about this, but I don't think nobody would have the type of insight that you would have to answer this question. Figuratively speaking, if the pimp was still here, how do you think he would fit in today's society and narrative, whether it be musical, just in general.

It would be boo-sail steroids. It would be bullselle steroids. Social media, it would be bullselle steroids. Content and everything like that. You know, Pimp understood who he was and how he was seen in this world. And you can listen to some of the last songs he was talking about. You know, Pimpin ain't dead. He just moved to the website.

You know what I'm saying? He was very well where shit was going. And pimp would have been, I know this going to sound crazy. If, if, like, I think it was Snoop that just said, the only fans offered him a bunch of money to get on there and show his dick or whatever. That's good. You know what I'm saying. Why?

The fuck. I could. If he wasn't married, which he was married, he had a good wife. She was very, very loyal to him. He had a good wife. But in this OnlyFans era, Pemcee would have been making some money somewhere, some kind of way. Like somewhere between Boosa and South Walker, you would have, like,

well, actually not even in between, but like on the outer parameters because he operated on the furthest. Like, we're going to go there. We're going all the way there. Fuck it. Because it would have been money involved. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I'm not saying he would have showed his dick. Right. But I think some holes would have been showing something. Like, it would have been some money there. You know what I'm saying? for him. He would have found a way to take advantage of, but then also, you know, social media can be your downfall too because everybody ain't going to always agree with everything that you say. But I think the music would have been amazing to see him have an opportunity to produce

for a lot of people. I think him and Drake would have had a phenomenal relationship to light-skinned niggas that can rap and sing. I think the synergy is just, it would have just been really, really ridiculous. You know what I'm saying? And also, niggas like Future that were just young and wild and getting to the paper and moving a certain way. I think, you know, people like that would have gained a lot from being up under a person like Pimp because, you know, the guy that that one of the first people to find Future was one of my right-hand people back in the day. You know, so the proximity that he would have had to a lot of talent today would have really altered the direction of the thing. But then I would think it was a lot of shit that he wouldn't

have been cool with too, you know. But man, I think about, you know, Megan Nostalian produced by Pimsy. Think about Sexy Red and Pimsy on a record. These are natural things that obviously would have happened that I look at, you know. But also, like, on the R&B side, you know, he was very much a singer.

And I think today's R&B lends itself a lot to what he was doing. You know what I'm saying? I think it would have been a very, sweet spot for him to just really be like, hey man, I just want to fuck. Like, but in a sensual way, like, you know, I really, I'm really, I really want to fuck you though. Like, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to just fuck with you. Like, I'm really trying to get you and fuck put some dick on you.

Like, for real, I want to put some dick in you, like, for real. You know what I'm saying? That's the way the ass right there is. Look. I just want to put some dick in you. You know what I'm saying. I just want to put. Because, because, I mean, when you get down to it, when you get down to it, when you get down

to it, man. If a woman decided to give you her body, she don't want you wasting her time. You know what I'm saying? Don't just come over here playing and fucking around and try to get you a nothing. Like, come over here and fuck me. You know what I'm saying? Come and fuck something. Like, for real. And

he would have been all about that musically. So when you say, I hear you say that's your right hand. Like, coming from where we come from in our environment it's that's not a title we just give somebody that's earned, you know.

And what would you, what kind of like attributes or characteristics you could say that you saw in Pimp when you was like, oh yeah, this my right hand man. Loyal to a fault. Like, loyal to a fault. Now was the thing about us

that superseded everything. Because when we started, there was a lot of people around. We was all trying to make music. We all wanted to be in a game. And then life started to pull. and people in different directions. And me and him kind of looked up. It was like, man, we still really want to do this shit.

And we realized that nobody really wanted to do it as much as we did. And so as we went through shit and got the deals and got fucked over and got the new manager and got fucked over and all these different things, the one constant was that we got each other. So there's times where I get frustrated

and I don't want to do this shit no more. We ain't making no bread. Fuck this, we can be doing different shit and get some money. People keep me focused. keep me on my note and in the meantime when Pimp would get frustrated

tired of dealing with these white folks and these labels man they don't understand us they won't let us do what we're supposed to do I keep him focused I keep him centered you know what I'm saying

and that's really what it was about because like Pimp had friends right Pimp had his own circle of niggas because he Pimp moved a different way to not move so I had my own circle of niggas but none of our friends

from our circle were closer to us that we were too because as much as they was around us they still hadn't really been through the shit that me and him had actually been through. Real

like rap street wars with niggas looking for you with guns. Like real shit. You know, niggas come to concerts. They weren't a part of that. You know what I'm saying? Getting sued. You know, IRS coming in, freezing bank accounts. Y'all wasn't a part of that part. That was the only person we could call about that was us. Now, I'm not saying they wasn't a part of helping us

to build this company. Right. A lot of people worked. But it's just that. There were just times where y'all could go home and kind of separate from it. And we had to kind of live it every single day. So me and him always had that between us. And then it was the music, the chemistry

was just it's bananas and it's really I could say it and it sounds like Cap but if you ask anybody that was ever in the studio with us or around in the time that we made those music, those songs, those albums, we would be in the same room

right into the same song and would not have to, I wouldn't have to tell him where I'm at unless it was something that was structured, but him They go right after me or something, so he'd have to know my last time. But if we say we want to talk about cars, we can write a whole song about cars. I ain't got to ask him what he's saying, because he don't like the same kind of cause I like. He ain't go do in the car what I'm doing. You know what I'm saying?

So we ain't like the same type of women. Let's do a song about girls, okay? I'm going to do this type of girl. He wanted to do that with several women or whatever it was. You know what I'm saying? But the only thing we really had in common was getting to where the fuck we was trying to. know. Sometimes he have an idea, I'd have an idea. Some days

we take his route. Some days, some days people needed to deal with Pimsy. Right? Some day people needed to deal with Bambi. It was those characteristics that we knew would work better in certain rooms or certain spaces, but whatever it took. So when Pimp was snapped, and people

hear Pimp talk crazy with him. Most the time I knew, sometimes I wake up and hear the shit just like, y'all. You know what I'm saying? And I would just have to feel Like, you know, I know he, I know he feel like this. I know he really, really feel like this, you know. If I don't agree with it, that's between me and him. Right.

That's not. Between the world. That's not the world business. Right. You know what I'm saying? Whether or not we agree on a different thing. But we're going to talk past it anyway. That'd be the thing I hate to see.

I hate to see when niggas build something together and they get into it and they make shit public. Like, I never fuck with this nigga again. And then five years, 17 years down. the line. You know damn well you're going to end up fucking with this nigga again. There's going to be a different appreciation of what y'all did. Y'all going to understand and appreciate the dynamic of the relationship better as y'all get older. Realize y'all left a lot of good years and a lot of money on the table.

So my thing is, man, let's just deal with it. There would be shit. We'd be in concert and Pipson say some outlandish shit, nigger. I'm talking about like some wild shit. And I just have, you know, I'm sitting there. I'm playing it calm, whatever, you know. keep doing the show, keep doing the music, getting the wrong. What the fuck was that, my nigga? What was it? And he'd be like, well, shit, you know, woo-woo-wham. I'd be like, man, goddamn, just give me a heads-up.

Because it don't matter either way. I'm riding with him regardless. Even if I don't agree with it. If that's what we're on, it's kind of what we're at with. There's no... You know, I might disagree, but... Going back to Slim Charles, man, Big G, what you say on the Y? Even if it's a lie, we got to ride on that lie.

That's just what it is at that point. I'm not fend to publicly take no other nigger's side. I'm not publicly fit to disagree with the man. I'm telling me wrong when it's just being him. It's a place of the time for everything. But if that's what we're at, if you say some shit whether I agree with it or not, if it's out there, well, we already know what that is.

Well, he said, nigga. Well, yeah. So we get off the state, where y'all niggas know what it is now. He didn't say it's out there. Move accordingly. Let's do it. Just move accordingly.

That's it. He had the, I mean, when you go back and you listen to the way he spoke about you, like, it ain't nobody he believed in more than the bun. Like, I got $250,000 if you think he can. When nobody believed in neither one of them, we believe in each other. Right. She got us a long way. Yeah, you could tell.

She got us a long way. She was not easy. It was fucked up. A lot of people did that dirt. And it was just me and him. And mama pretty much it. You know, mama came in, you know, put her life on the line for a child. I got the residual benefit of that.

So I never I never could give her enough credit and love for what she did. And he lived long enough to see the world actually understand and appreciate what it was. Because UGK. wasn't my, UGK. was his

thing. He woke up with you. You know what I'm saying? He really, really wanted to show the world who he was and what we could do where we was from. And before he left, we ended up having the number one album in the world. But he's not a rap

RV, none of that shit. Bill Boy, 200 number one out. Finally got to present itself in the way that he knew if they just get the fuck out the way. Like, we literally, for riding dirty, we didn't take no money. But not even that. We didn't take no money. We didn't take no money for riding

dirty. We said, give us some equipment and give us creative control. I don't want to pity. And that's why you got riding dirty. Because the first two albums before, like with too hard to swallow the first album. There's songs that got remixed by the record cover there

that I didn't hear till they sent me the album. Like when the sample wouldn't clear in my contract, they had to write at the label to reproduce the record. So like, what is it? One 900 9-76 B-U-N-B?

I'd never heard that from that album until that shit came to my house about three, four days, I'd come out. I'd never heard that shit in my life. You know what I'm saying? So just that type of shit, you know, having a jail or death clause in my contract. So when Pimp got locked up, it was like, what was in the pause made? When y'all go to jail and when you y'all die, you can bring in another member. But I had to reduce royalty rate.

So we just wanted to know if you wanted to exercise that clause. And, you know, they were like, he's gone. So if you want to do UGK with somebody else, we can do that, be very easy. It's already out of track. You know? What do you mean? You mean it? How can you do UGK without

MC? That's the heart of UGK. Like, I'm like, I'm gonna do a solo album. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? What can I go do it somewhere?

Like, where are you going to do it? Rap a lot? Oh, no. No, no. Because he would know what to do. You know what I'm saying? That's fucking crazy.

So, like, the old man just said at the panel, which I didn't know, he's like, I had to sue him. Like, it became a whole legal thing, right? Because contractually, they really did. There was nothing in my clause that said that I had to get my slow album. So that became a whole thing. And they ended up settling for a couple of points, you know what I'm saying, on the album. And I ended up selling, what, 7.50. You know what I'm saying?

How different was that for, you know, when you had to do that? Terrible. As though you recorded with, you know, your whole recording career has been with this. Terrible, but necessary. Was it? Terrible. Horrible. I would typically come in.

Pipp would have some beats. We'll pick some different beats. Either he'd come up with a hook, I'll come up with the hook. All right, well, we're going to do two verses, one you, one meet, and we're going to split a 16. Okay, you're going to go first, so I'm going to go first. So I, you know, do my writing obligation, write my little rhymes, go in and say my rhymes. I leave. But the nigga had already been in the studio a couple of hours before I got there.

I got there and was going to still be in that hole a couple hours after I left every time. That was my job, no. I'd never done it before. Never wanted to do it before. I never wanted to be a solo artist because I felt I was in the best group of all time. I always felt like nobody was better than me.

You could not put two niggas in the room and come up with what me and him did. Not as good as we did. So I had to start, the first thing I had to do was find beats. I never had to look for a beat in my goddamn life. I was rapping with P. Who beats what I want?

So I had to go out and do that shit. You know what I'm saying? I had to go out and find beats. So I started calling my partners. I called KLC. KLC was the first nigga I called. I told him what I wanted to do. I left my voicemail.

I said, I wanted to do a song. And the nigga called me the next day and had made the fucking song. I was rapping and humming in the goddamn phone. I said, I think I'm going to be all right. If I can tell these niggas what I want to do, you know what I'm saying? or what I'm trying to do,

they can give me what I want. You know what I'm saying? So we just start calling partners, friends. You know what I'm saying? Next thing you know, we had an album. We felt comfortable with it. We put it out.

Motherfucker got received well, and I was like, okay, we're cooking now. And this whole free pimpsey shit was getting momentum and energy which I just watched what M&M and G you know, was doing with free Yale.

There wasn't no, you know, praise on for me. They had a partner locked up. They was doing. doing a lot of big shit, and had they big, other partners doing big shit, wearing the shirt, saying the name. I said, we could do this.

I know a bunch of niggas are wearing a free PMC shirt and say free PNC. And I just carried the message from artists to artists, album to album. That became a whole thing because I didn't want the man to come home after that shit and have to be in a position of trying to rebuild this shit. So the whole time I'm getting energy and momentum.

I'm letting niggas know it's still UGK for life. there were people that literally tried to convince me if you want to leave you could go because pimp was not in the best place where he got locked up there was a lot of behavior that I didn't agree with at the time and so people literally was trying to talk I was like well no nothing to do that now if I had a problem with what the man was doing I had plenty of time to say I don't want to fuck with this no more I knew how the man was living I you know I didn't have a problem with the bones that didn't interrupt with the business and it wasn't affecting his family negative.

That's what you want to do on your free time. That's fine. Long as your kids and your wife and your mom and everybody's good, you show up for work. I can't say shit to what you do. People don't, people didn't agree with them. When I was getting wet, nobody. Don't think that shit was cool.

You know what I'm saying? So I'm not here to judge nobody. God damn. Buying some more microphones today. I put in the yoke packet. There's something wrong with my pack. We buying some more microphone today. I want to see the shipment, say paid.

You're always breaking shit on the way, Alex. Stop putting randstones on your skull. Oh, yeah. You ain't got ryanstones on the sculling, man. Got that motherfuck with a Walgreen. That's got R-X on it. They got a description. That's what it is.

Check one, two. You got it from Walgreens. Good. Take this with your code. description, but, you know, be good. The craziest thing about all this stuff I'm saying is that there's a witness in the room that can tell you whether or not I'm lying,

it's Cory Moe. Cori Moe was around for the majority of the shit that I'm talking about when he became age-appropriate. Cory Moe's big brother, Mike Moe, was pimps right-hand for a while and helping him we're recording and moving and do a lot of different things. And then as Corey got older, Cory come around, you know, I make beats.

Good for you, Cory, good for you, little man. Keep it up. Now, niggas called Corey O.G. Right. You know, not dozens. A niggas, a couple niggas. I'm one of them. Not everybody, but it is.

But Corey can testify to a lot of shit that I'm talking about, the good and the bad. And in spite of all of that, we kept this shit together. Because that was all that really mattered to me was keeping this shit together. I saw so many groups break up. I saw so much petty shit break shit up. I saw real shit break shit up. I saw a niggas start to grow in different direction. I never wanted that for us.

I knew me and Pimp wasn't the same nigga when we started. We weren't the same nicks in high school. He wasn't the same niggas as grown men. That was not a problem for me. That didn't mean not to fuck with this man. I knew he did shit different than I did shit. That did not mean don't fuck with the man. Because when you started judging people, that's something wrong with you.

You know what I'm saying? Like I say, as long as people show up to work, long as long as people don't bring their bullshit to work, as long as long people treat their family fine, I really don't see what the problem is. You know what I'm saying? And it's only until it affects the family or the job when you start new. You got to start checking yourself.

But look, man, we loved each other. We didn't have to like each other all the time, and that's a big misconception. You know, Pipp and me and Pimp didn't even live in the same city for at least a dozen years. You know, I was in Atlanta first. He was at home. Then I came back. Then he moved to Atlanta. You know what I'm saying?

But there would be times where we probably wouldn't see each other for two months, two or three months. In person, we talked on the phone or whatever. But get there, what's up, bro? Shit, boop, all right, Pee, we, let's get it. And get on stage and rap, you think me and the think have been around each other all week. There was no need to force the friendship, bro. We were that already. You know, so outside of whatever people thought or people felt or people read or whatever this shit was,

I love Chad, Chad loved me, and at the end of the day, that's all that really matter. And the last thing we said to each other was, I love you. I love you, too. That's the last thing he said to me. It's the last thing I said to him. So I have closure in a situation. That being said, of course, I miss him. I mean, trying not to cry this whole time

because it's so overwhelming how impactful his life was. I see rap niggers all the time. I see that digger. I look at jury. I see that dick. I look at clothes. Cause he left so much for these dickers.

Niggas are millionaires. They bosses. because he left a blueprint for niggas. I'm better because there was a blueprint. Showed me how to do this shit, put this shit together when he wasn't around. And he would have wanted these niggas to win. He wanted niggas to not beef,

not talk shit on each other, get to the paper. Get your motherfucking money. These things are getting so much money nowadays. It's ridiculous. I know that nigga love this shit. No, he do. Man, you're looking at somebody that is, I mean, I can't even explain how heavily influence you, y'allah, or me.

But like I always say, I grew up without a father. My father got killed. I grew up with, you know, losing many men in my family to violence and drugs. I ain't never had to look at nobody outside of my family and want to be like nobody. Pempsie is the only person I ever looked at that was an entertainer that I wanted to be like. I wanted to be like this man. She was raised right. You know what I mean?

the way that, the way that, not just the music, just hearing him talk and hearing how passionate he was and how authentically him he was. Like, that shit, that's where I get there from. Me walking around with half my braids missing and all that shit comes from the confidence that I had within myself and I watched this man throughout my life.

Like, I cried like a bitch when that man died on December 4th. Like, I remember being in a computer lab, I was in school, and my daughter-a-mama called me and told me Pimsy died. I was like, man, and we was beefing at the time. I was like, why would you call me and say some goof-ass shit like that fucking with me? And I had, this was, man, a computer lab. I looked it up and seen it, it was real, and I just started crying because I felt like I lost somebody I knew.

Because I felt like I knew this man through. No, but you did. You did because he never had to really alter his true. personality. The shit he said he meant he said it on the radio interview which is the most pimsy shit of all the shit he ever said is when the nigger

When I'm off the plane, what time is it? It's not even not. When the nigger said, the nigger said if I offended you with what I said then I'm sorry. But I meant what I said. But I meant what I said. That was his motto. That's how he

walked through life and he was going to be him. and move like how we move and you either was going to like it and rock with him or you wasn't going to like it and like you were saying, it's a fight under that. You know? And look, he wasn't the easiest person to like, but he was hard not to love.

It's hard not to love a nigger like that. The nigger was passion in the flesh. The nigger wanted to be great. He wanted niggas around him to be great. He wanted niggas that thought like him to be great that came from where he came from to be great. so selfless. Niggas they'd appreciate it.

They thought it was just rap and music, and it was. But he wanted the best for niggas, especially in the South. We spent a lot of time not being appreciated. And he and Walt, the next niggas, to go through it. So that's why he started saying, country rap tunes and all that shit because he wanted niggas to have pride from what they were from and if they didn't feel accepted it didn't mean they wasn't supposed to be there that's what that shit was really about and now niggas walk through this game and get big money and holy nuts

and they ain't got to say they from the south or that they made it in spite of being from the south them niggas just the south not getting to the paper and it's not just rap niggas this this show is a byproduct of PEMC, of niggas feeling like they could be who they want to be and get to what they're trying to get to and take their niggas with them and do it in a real way. This is a byproduct of all that shit. I look at niggas like y'all, and I know that the hard work and a sacrifice wasn't in vain. That niggas actually watched what that man was saying and listened and got some game, and some of these niggas took that shit and built on that shit and became not just

artists, they became bosses and businessmen and factors out here. You know what I'm saying? And it's amazing to watch because these niggas. And now it's women. You look at Lotto and Megan, glow real. These are pimp C, man,

that's pimp C. By all that shit, that confidence, you know what I'm saying? Or being out and I'm going to show my ass, I'll give him for a nigga better not touch me. You know what I'm saying? Now, Pem, I'm coming out of him. I'm going to shine on it. I'm That better not took my chain, though. You know, bitch, may not touch my dick.

That's that confidence. I know them to shit. Y'all, I'm just waiting for y'all niggas to catch up. You know what I'm saying? I'm just waiting for y'all to catch up. That's what I see as I look through this game. I see a lot of people that not only listen to Pimsy, but they listened to Pimsy. If you talk to his contemporaries, you talk to the niggins like TIP and all in there,

they'll tell you, man. Like, man, Pimp was serious. He was serious about the South. He was dead serious. That's why niggas, like the T.I.s and the killer mics and these new generators, that's why they're so serious about how their business is handled, how their videos is shot, how they clothes is tailored, all that time. Nicks take pride because they're South niggas.

And they didn't know it took a lot for South niggas even getting them rooms. We're going to come through clean. We're not going to show up, you know what I'm saying? Look at what else. Niggas wearing suit. I'm going to have a clean suit. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggas wearing shirt, watch me.

Watch this. I'm going to show you how South nigger do it. I take so much pride in watching the show. I just went to Paris with Slim. Lordy If Slim Thug Ain't learned from Pem C I don't know who he learned from

And he's a yellow nigga too And he's a yellow nigga too That's the other talk He put on And they're putting on for the city Man I'm proud of these niggas I really am They're doing them credit

They're doing them justice By getting out of he and get to this paper Man there's so much money And these niggas is kidding it Right I love it I used to have to sell one record out of a stove These niggas make one song

in silly 13 different goddamn ways Nigel only have to make a album They can make one good record He's out of here Look at the community there Community that came right at the beginning of the digital era Max that whole out

Ringtones Online sales, website All of that shit And then that man woke up one day And say, man, you know eventually this rap shit gonna play out If I record ain't big like the last record The show money ain't gonna be like that

I need this show money forever like I need this kind of bread that I'm getting now forever and start moving on it before the shit started going down and he walked away from the gay niggas the barry sound as a rap

the nigger can still rap can still make music and do all of the shit but it ain't really necessary I did what I came to do I say what I said I see some old paper over down my highlight job look how hard it is to get around model Ross now think that thing over there worried about rapping

that's probably the smallest chick he Well, obviously not because he got the label deal and all that, he got incentives or whatever, but these things he's trying to do, man, and the effort that it takes to make the money that he's making from all these other different businesses and everything that it takes to kind of go into the music.

Now he's where Jay is. When I make an album, it's to perpetuate my other businesses. When Hold make an album, it's not about the money an album make. He'll make more money from the sponsorships than the album could make no matter how many it sells. From the tour partnerships that they'll produce from that type of shit. Raw was getting some money.

He got up and left talking to us to go get something in the middle of the conversation. Nigga, I get into places as a rapper. I could never, I ain't never been invited to Coachella. There's no rapper. They never asked me to come to Coachella and say a motherfucking word. They want them burgers again. Can you come back and can you do this festival too? Man, yes.

You know what I'm saying? You got to be open to change, man. You can't be trying to hold on in this shit for too long. God will be calling you and telling you, man, come over here. Come over here, now I'm good, right here. All right, my nigga. All right. I'm saying, I ain't tell you.

And I ain't going to be here. When you get back. When you get back. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? They ain't going to be here. It came to me with that. I said, let's go. I've been gone ever since.

I've been to the restaurant in Houston, and we had a conversation there. A lot of the stuff that you said to me in that conversation stuck out. But one of the things that was profound was, you know, you get into a point where you realize that, you know, the business of UGK got to a certain point and you realized that it was something else

that you needed to be doing and you didn't know it was this, but the way that the person presented it to you, you knew, is there a way to be able to tell? Like, being somebody that's been in the business for so long, like, is there a feeling that you get, or is there some type of notion that you get to know when it's time to move,

because you've been around it so long? I do the rodeo every year, right? I do the Houston livestock showing rodeo. every year in Houston. It's the biggest rodeo in the world, but it's also the biggest music festival in the world. Most people don't know this. They do 21 concerts in a row

every night in the football stadium. And the rodeo and everything is separate from the concert. So you buy a ticket and you can go into the carnival and go to the pet and zoo and all of that, but if you wanna go to the concert, you gotta buy another ticket. So they'll do about 2.2 million concert tickets. So, and it's a football stadium,

and it's not like when you go see, Beyonce, and they got the big stage, so a piece of the stadium, it's in the, the stage is in the center of the football field. So every seating that bitch is up for sale. You know what I'm saying? They seat 70, and after 70,000, it's standing in room only. I'm the first black man from Houston. It's been happening in Houston. This is the 92 year.

It's been going on for 92 years. I'm the first black man from Houston to ever headline. That's hard. We've done it twice before. We did it in 2022. We did it. We did 73,000 people. We did it last year in 2023. We did 74,000 people. We getting ready to do it again in March. And I'm putting together the artist for it. And I try to put together a mix of, try to get some younger people. When I say young, I'm 50. So I'm talking about 35, 36. I put these youngsters on. Put you young niggins in the game. You know what I'm saying? But I also try to give it up to my OGs as well. I try to give it up to people that were transcendence for me. And I call the artists. I'm not going to say, this artist's name it out. I called an artist. And I asked this artist to be a part of it. And the artist said, I would really love to, you know, I have respect for you. I think we just

did something together, which we had. We had just performed somewhere together a couple of months before. But she was like, you know, I just, I just don't see it being worth just getting out of my house to go rap no more. I just don't see the value in it. L.L. is out. L.L.'s going on tour, but LL.L. has got liquor deal. L.L.'s got merchandise. He's got several different corporate sponsors that underwrite it. When people sell, you know, certain liquor

in the building, he's getting money from so many different factors. And that's what I want to do. That's the only way I want to move right now. And I don't have to move if I don't want to. You know what I'm saying? So, I'm just going to pass. I

appreciated the fact that that person was able and willing to explain to me something that I felt like I was starting to understand. You got to get yourself to a position in life where you go to work because you want to, not because you have to. My grandfather was, I don't know, probably close to 90 years old.

My grandfather had retired, the house was paid for. He didn't have to, and he would get up every morning and go to the yard and go out in the field and go do all this stuff. And he'd be like, why do you and can't pop up and pay somebody to do that? Yeah, of course he can, but he enjoyed that. He don't want to sit down and get stuck. You know, if you sit down for too long,

stuck. And I'm just trying not to get stuck. You know what I'm saying? Now this artist is not stuck. This artist has other options. They can do a multitude of things. But if they going to do that, we got to do it different. I really can't fuck with it. I really just can't fuck with it. And that's kind of where I'm at now. You know, I got some great business opportunities in front of me that can go a long way. So when I come out and rap now, it's because I'm known to promote it for a while. You do good business. It's easy. and I can enjoy it. You know what I'm saying?

We go to certain cities now. We just go, because we know we can go eat somewhere and we get to see so-and-so in them. You know what I'm saying? Let's go. Oh, we go in Indianapolis. We get to go eat this

and we'll see DJ Princeton. Are we going to Atlanta? So we know we get to go eat him. We'll get to see so-and-so in them like that. Yeah, no. And you just got to, but you got to think about this shit before. Getting paid in the back room with guns.

Man, but, man, look, that shit gets old, bro. That shit get old, man. Getting old, man, getting paid. You know, having to have pistols when you go to work, man. And it's legal shit. And you still got to bring a pistol to work. Like, it's crazy.

Like, I'm working in the wrong rooms. You know what I'm saying? And look, we'll go back, and we'll go to Birmingham. We'll go to Lafayette. You know, we'll go to these smaller markets, Mobile and Jackson, Mississippi. We'll still go back. Because we've been going for 25. I've been going to, I've been going to Jackson,

Mississippi with Stokes for 32 years. Why don't I go back for 33? I already know the two times of you, he's going to call. I know what's going on in town. It's a good time to get a lot of people. Be some good food and shit, get the hangout. It's comfortable.

It's cool. It's easy. You know? Is he going to pay me with my time? Really? Well, not really, but I ain't doing nothing this weekend anyway. I'll go out there and fuck with it. You know what I'm saying?

It's comfortable to be able to be at this level of life to be able to make those kind of decisions. You know what I got, like I said, I got grandbabies now, man. You know, I turn down concerts to go to cheer competitions, my nigg. Like, I turned down good, old-fashioned, hard currency to go spend them some time with them babies because there's times when the kids were younger and I would work on Thanksgiving because they pay extra on Thanksgiving.

And I work on Christmas Eve because they pay extra on Christmas Eve. You work on New Year's Eve. But if you ever worked on Christmas Eve, you come back home Christmas Eve. So good. What's the fuck I'm doing? Well, if you go to work on Christmas Eve,

when you come home, you can't even play with them babies like you want to. They didn't have been up. They didn't open toys and shit, man. You know, I'm building my company now, man, and two of the people that run this company with me, man, they, he missed his child walking. He missed the first word because he's doing things that he know will benefit this child later.

But that shit still hurt. You know what I'm saying? That shit still hurt. Can't buy time. Mm-hmm. And if you live long enough and you're blessed with the opportunity of having children and know that you, are blessed with having children.

You try to, you try to write those wrongs. You know what I'm saying? You try to do things with the grandkids that you couldn't do with your kids. That's why the grandparents always treat the grandkids a little bit better. And you know what your kids say? Who the fuck is this nigga?

Right. Because I didn't get that. Who the fuck is this dick? Your pawpaw? I don't even know this man. Right. Not this gangster. I don't know this man at all.

This man just did makeup and tea parties. That what my brother knew was old. You're getting the good daddy. Yeah, man. They get mad at me, nigga. You're getting the best. Hey, man, ain't even telling you. I ain't even telling you.

I ain't even telling you. Welcome back to the eight fast-help show. Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness. That's the hardest intro of all times, right? That was the day. That's the hardest intro of all the time. She goes, we ain't bringing nothing but legends through here.

Man. That was a great day, it was a great day. It was a good day. It was a great day. And I already knew coming in and talking about. Talking with him, he was going to want to know this deep UGK shit. Oh, man. The very deep profound shit.

And I knew I was going to get emotional, but this is a safe space, I feel. Most, I'm going to do the intro, man. Everybody going to see this, right? Yeah, hey, no, everybody going to see it, man. Good. How old world going to see it. Good, I'm good with that. Man, it brings me great pleasure to have one of the most prolific emcees in hip-hop history from, in my opinion, the greatest hip-hop group in hip-hop history.

You buys, but I give you that. give a fuck. Yes, I am. I'm beyond bite. Keep on. I'm talking about from riding dirty to, I mean, the list goes on in a pocket full of stones. Too hard to swallow. I mean, one of the most profound lyricist, I mean, that has given game all the way through and through for years. I mean, help praise me. Now, one of the most prolific businessmen with Trill Burger, some of the most delicious burgers you'll ever have. And I had one that wasn't even made out of meat, and it was good. You hungry?

I had one before they had the stove. He did. He was making them bitches backstage. That's how serious he is, man. Literally, an honor and a pleasure to introduce the one and only. Bun B. Thank you, K. Thank you, y'all.

Thank you, y'all. Yes, sir, Steve. Come on, I got stand up, too, shit, man. Yes, sir, shit. They don't act like I'm better than niggas, man. Man, that was hard. O.T, man. What I owe you for that, Judge?

Nothing, you don't owe you. Nothing, man. You deserve it. And all you already needed to give. You deserve all love it, man. You know, OG, man. I had to say, man, it's, you know, I'm not, a lot of shit is not lost on me. And I was a fan of this show.

I've kind of been trying to get on this whole. You know what I'm saying? It's y'all and then it's club Shay-Shay, and I think I might be done. I appreciate you. But I remember, I don't tell the story a lot. I remember when I did Big Pam, I'm not going to get into the, the shit about making the record. I remember I was at the office,

I was talking to Dane, and then Hove came in, and there was the day that we were set to record the song, and the niggas say, man, you're hungry, you want to get something to eat? I said, yeah, I'm cool. So we went downstairs, and we got in the nigga Bentley,

and we were riding around through Manhattan. And I'm like, I just saw this nigga video where this nigga was in this car riding around, Yeah, man, and the shit felt so surreal. And that's kind of how it feels like right now in this room because I've seen y'all talk to so many niggas in this room and had these conversations. And I'm actually on the sofa.

And here's the craziest shit of all. So y'all know when y'all came to Houston, I came to the show, me and the wife came to the show. And I told my wife, I was like, you know, I'm going to do 85 South. She said, oh, for real? She's like, well, you're just like, y'all just be talked to. I'm like, no, it's a whole video show. You got to sit down in the room and all that.

She'd say, oh, so that's why the stage got the sofa and everything. Nigger, I was two days old when I realized that this shit was a replication, down to the shit on the hang off, shit completely. But here's why. Because I watched it from the side. I didn't watch it from the crowd. So I didn't get this perspective. I'm going to watch you

you niggas being silly but from the side of the stage it never but to be fair she was on the side too and she figured it out so what they tell you by me I married up

right talk you out I'm married up man now you went on a legendary feature run what's the most features you think you've done in a day in a day

in a day in a day because it's hilarious knocking a mouth to you jeepard you ain't fumbled on no fucking verse. Nobody has recorded my vocals more than

the gentleman over there in the hoodie, Corey Moore. Oh, he get a whole separate interview. Well, I already got Cory Moore going to do the follow-up. And when I say nobody's recording me more, I mean more songs over a period of time or more verses in a day. The only project that I don't think

you recorded me at all for Corey was no mixtape. I think you didn't do that. And so that was the freestyle album, but I think on one day I did like seven, but they're not features. That was songs. But you've recorded me for features.

How many features do you think you've seen me do in one day? And when we say one day, explain how many features and explain the time. Because the time is the thing. Like, it's not the number of songs. It's how quick we do these. Turn around. Yes.

I try to come after traffic. It's done in the morning. But I need to be gone before traffic started the evening. You got picked them kids up and all that shit. I wake up full of, I'm ready to go. When I wake up in the morning, I'm a bundle of motherfucking energy, like they say. He laid two today. I landed in Atlanta at 11.15.

I got to the studio at 12 o'clock. I laid two verses and a hook and left the studio at 12.30 and came in. Damn. But you said that... And I'm going to the studio as soon as I leave here. I've seen you say that it don't take you long to rap. Like, it don't take you long. So do you think that...

Well, where does that come from? Having something to say. Having something to say. That's the only thing that complicates you when you have a writer's block, you really ain't got shit to say. That's what right of the block is. It's not a block of thoughts. It's a lack of thoughts.

You ain't taking in enough information. you're not interacting enough with the world you're not paying attention to what's around you so you really ain't got nothing to talk about but what's inside your phone wall and that's going to run dry very, very quick so you've got to be out man, you got to be reading, you got to be

watching, you got to be talking, you got to be seeing, you got to take in the world if you don't take in the world, what the fuck are you talking about? You're going to end up just making up shit. That's the problem. People are not taking in enough information and you don't have to be old. that's a very big misconception

you don't have to live long to have wisdom wisdom don't come from being old and smart wisdom comes from seeing things as they really happen in the world and learning how to adjust

to these things that's what wisdom come from not from being perfect and smart it's about from being imperfect but resourceful yes sir so

I'm sorry I mean to no no that's what we love that we love that like But I would say to ask you a question, seven, would that be safe? And then they're giving us the least, man. Because I'm not in the studio all day.

I'm not trying to do all that shit all day. I'm not, most people go to the studio to avoid home. Right. I work very hard to get to a house that I don't want to leave. Right. I'm not trying to leave my house. People don't understand that point. God damn, I love it.

Why are you doing? Yes, sir. I feed. That's the whole point of it. man. You're supposed to work hard enough to get the home that you can retire in. I learned that from Bruce's Millie.

You know what? See in the movie Bruce's Mill? He spent all that money trying to find the room he could die in. And at the end, when all the money was gone, the woman had finally given him, he was like, this is it. This is the room I could die in. That imprinted on me.

I want to work hard enough to get the money, to get the house that I want to die in. That'll be the next house. I got a nice house right now, but the burger house? That burger house. The burger house? The burger house? The burger house?

We want some yard yard. I don't want a bigger house. I want a bigger house. I want a bigger place. I want some yard yard yard yard. I don't need no more house. Ain't for me and her. We just stay in Texas for it? Yeah, it's where the land is that. That's where it's it. I mean, I'm going.

Yeah, that's too far to move. Everything. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't already start plattin down there. I'm coming. Adventure should never come with a pause button.

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On your feet. Streaming live only on Hulu. You gentlemen, Brian Adams, Ed Sheeran, Fade, Chlorilla, Jelly Roll, John Fogarty, Lil Wayne, LL Cool J, Mariah, Mariah, Maroon 5, Sammy Hagar, Tate McCraig, the Offspring, Tim McGraw, tickets are on sale now at AXS.com. Get your tickets today, AXS.com. You got to be an executive, right, Def Jam? Yes, work on the executive side. So somebody who then had bad record deals and didn't get to work. As an executive, like, what did those worlds collide at?

So what I did, I was basically the A&R for Def Jam South. So by the time I come into it, you didn't already sign your deal. I can't really do nothing about that. If you ain't signed a good deal, I can't really do nothing about that. And I can't knock you because I signed one of the worst deals in history. So, yeah, it's pretty bad. It's pretty bad. We'll get to that. It's pretty bad.

I won't get that. You still dealing with it now? My deal, my record deal? The bad one. Yeah, I'm still in debt. You know what I'm saying? The way my flits worked and everything, I'm still in debt for about $2 million.

But I've also been around long enough that my catalog will revert to me and my balance will go to zero. Because I'm what they call a legacy artist. I was signed before 2000. The only reason that it hasn't all reverted and I haven't got my zero balance yet is because UGK took money after 2000.

you know what I'm saying so we took money in 2007 so technically there's seven years on the end of where we should have stopped so I think from here is it is 24 might be 27 or 28 something like that I think all of this stuff is going to start reverting back I could be wrong by a year or two but I also know that's when you can be eligible for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame I'm very interested to see how that goes yes sir all the way but it's going to be it's to be There's a couple of niggas that's supposed to be in there before I get there. But I am eligible, so whenever y'all, whenever y'all get around to it, I'll let you boy. I'll let you boy. Now, what do you think, being as though you'd have been rapping for so long? Do you have a favorite pimpsie, I mean a favorite bunbee verse that you've done? I do.

Like if you had to put one in a time capsule when they open it up, that defines you when they listen to a witch. Oh, now you say define me. You asked what my favorite was. God damn. The one that defied me got to be like high life or some shit like that. I think blood on the dash, which a record I recorded with Gary Clark Jr. I think that's a very, very interesting record because it's a record about a police interaction

from the perspective of the officer and the perspective of the person getting pulled over. So you get to see why the person got pulled over. You get to see what the cop is thinking as he walks to the car. what the person in the car is thinking as the cop walks to them. It's a very different kind of record and it ends like kind of where they interact with and you never

know how these things go. That's why I left the open the ending open because you never know how these kind of interactions will go somewhere. But I did try to, without taking the police side, make sense as to why a cop would be scared at work. Now let me ask you this. This is a question. I'm talking about a cop that

scared at work. Not a bully cop looking to do something. This is a question. I always. I feel like a nervous police than shot people. I feel like a lot of nervous niggas than shot people, too. I digress. Now, in the rap, on Woodwell, you said that

you was a conservative liberal, yes. That's true? Technically, yeah. But financially, I'm conservative, but lifestyle, I'm liberal. I don't really care what you do in your bed. Just don't fuck with my money.

Okay. Capitalist. That's a good. Look, I'm still a philanthropist, though. Right? I'm charitable, so I'm not about just making money for me. Typically right now at this point,

a lot of the money that I'm trying to make won't even benefit me. I'll be dead and gone. You know what I'm saying? So it's more about generational wealth, but also with financial empowerment on top of it because it's easy to leave somebody's money. But if a nigga don't know how to manage $500,

giving you more money and I'm going to help you. People don't get financial education when they get money. They get financial education and then they get money. You want to the guys that the hip-hop community that liens on, like, the one that they grab up when they need somebody to go talk sense. The nigga turned in to Charlie Rose like a motherfucker.

Like a motherfucker. Let me cook. It's 24. But like, you want to be able... Huh? No, nigga. Oh, why you fuck me up? You fuck me up.

I was like, wait a minute. Where that boy's going to come from? He got the ones. I'm just saying, when they want to hear somebody to talk sense or, you know what I mean, be the voice of reason. something. You're one of the guys that they go get like, how does that feel

to be that in that position? Out of all the rappers, man, they go get you to make sense of some shit or talk to them white people when they need somebody to make. You're not lying because you were there I don't seen them in the cover bar. I'm like, you can go talk, you can go downtown and talk to the mayor and get shit.

Why would you ask somebody that ain't been through nothing to talk about something? Right. That's the problem. We put a lot in the lap of the younger artists and think they're supposed to, they ain't been through enough shit. Some of these dudes just ain't really been through enough shit. Politics really hasn't come into playing their life in that way.

You know what I'm saying? So why would you ask them what they think about politics? They probably don't think about politics. You know what I'm saying? And maybe just don't have a frame of reference. It ain't that they don't know. Here's the day. Sunday morning in the black household, it's music.

It's like maize, earthwind, and fire, maybe some church music. That's what's playing in the house in the black home on Sunday morning. And the white home is meet the press. this week with George Stephanophilus. You know what I'm saying? Face the nation. That's the shit I'm talking about. You know how to say shit like Stephanophilus.

But it's just a name, my nigga. It's not a noun. What they ain't what you said about? She's not a noun. George Snuffaloavlovak. But that's just it, man. Other people and other cultures typically have an earlier entry point into these conversations.

Black people don't even really talk about election in politics, but every four years. Meanwhile, it's... How important it is. Yeah, but, but, Meanwhile, it's the niggas that's on your city council and your school board. They get elected every two to three years, depending on where you live at. Those are the people that are really making decisions that affect your everyday light.

Those are the people that decide whether or not that pie hole on your mama street get filled. That type of shit. You know what I'm saying? But that's just not something that we're told is important on a daily basis. They don't teach civics in school no more. But even if they did teach civics in school, it wouldn't matter because it ain't got shit to do with test scores. And that's really all they do in school now. is teach kids how to pass state tests

so they can keep funding or whatever. They really don't care about actually teaching kids things that could actually benefit them further in life. Because passing a state examination test ain't got shit to do with making money and prospering in this world, not a motherfucking thing. So when young people tell you, they don't want to go to college, whatever.

Look what school was. School wasn't shit. It didn't even really engage a lot of these kids. If you're not in an AP class or honors class, your intellect isn't even really engaged, right? They're like, and let's be very, very real. We got a lot of kids in school that don't even want to be in school.

Right. In the classroom with kids that actually do want to learn some. That's a big problem. That's a big problem. We got classrooms, 35 kids in the room, 12 kids trying to learn, 23 kids fucking off, right? Because due to the home situation,

concerns or lack of involvement in their life, lack of engagement in home, you know, God knows what kind of environment they see and they live in every day. There's no one pushing them into an alternative that could benefit them. You know what I'm saying? And so they take that frustration. Somebody said some ill shit the other day. Somebody said children should sleep in the bed with their parents till they're seven years old. Because up until then, children are very, very scared. He said when a child is in their bedroom by their self and they get scared and nobody's there, that's when peeing in the bed starts. That kind of stuff. That's to behave. Because they're

having nightmares and dreams and they're alone. They say with children sleep in the bed with their parents, they tend to not pee in the bed because if they wake up scared, somebody's going to rub them, caress them, console them in the moment. You know what I'm saying? We have to do a better job of nurturing our children. We can't keep giving kids phones and iPads it ain't shit and they understand it better than you so how the fuck can you monitor your children social media page when a you don't know enough about social media be you on social media fucking off and DMs and shit you know what I'm saying

Aggie who got who got your daughter your daughter is a teenager right 15 your daughter's 15 did you teach your daughter how to create an email account or as your daughter had to teach you had a great email account. No, I told her. But the thing is, though, that I do with my daughter is I let her lead in regards to the social aspect, because I want to make sure that it's not something that she feels like she needs to have from me. I wanted to show me all the tricks. I want her when some new shit come out, and that's the key, the young as it's doing, I wanted to be like, Daddy, check this out. Look what they're doing now. So I can be like, oh, I'm hip. Because I know that there's no way I'm going to be in tune with this machine the same way she is. Like

something I always say is the etcher sketch, what's the app. at one point that was the most profound technology we had was the etcher sketch and that was the ipad so eventually something going to make the iPad just as irrelevant as the etcher sketch and i want to be in tune with somebody who's going to grow with it to make me understand it to where i'm not coming in blind trying to and looking like an old nigger and getting circles ran around and that's the thing right but you i the way i look i feel like you have a very and i see it in the video i feel like you have a very different dynamic with your daughter like it's very understood that you're the father that she's the child, right?

But y'all get along. Like, you get along with a teenage girl. That's amazing, my nigga. Like, I know nothing of this. We didn't not get along with our teenage daughter like this. My granddaughter is 15 years old, bump heads constantly. Like, you know what I'm saying? But you're right.

You do have to be more involved with your kids. But I feel like you've been involved before the social media and the electronic come in. Typically, I don't know how. how many situations I've been in where the parent is trying to do something, the child is bothering them, and the parents are just take the phone. Just take the phone,

you know? You ever tried to buy a kid, a Fisherpriced cell phone? Man, they look at that shit. Like, what the fuck is this? Is this the box? Where yours? That's how they look at you. They look at that shit. They look at your phone. What the fuck is this?

Give me the app, nigga. Give me the birds and the bubbles and the shit. Like, what are you doing? I remember my daughter found the Game Boy and asked me what type of phone this was. I said, damn. I'm, whoa. She found a Game Boy. She was like, Daddy, what type of phone is this? Like, there ain't no damn phone. That's a

game boy. She was like, well, where the phone that? You know what I mean? And then for, like, for me, I just know that I think it comes from me not having a father. Because I don't have no reference point. I don't have anything to go back to that a father is supposed to do with their child, so I'm making it up as I go. So a lot of things, and I'm sure if I

had my dad, I probably would be restrictive because it came from and just passed down, I don't have that. So I'm more open-minded with a lot of things when it comes to my daughter in regards to letting her lead because I know that when I was her age, like for example, when we was home for Christmas break, she got a little

boyfriend. The boyfriend came to the house. They baked cookies and all at the house. And I just, you know, naturally was appreciative of the fact that this little girl is a much better human being than I was at 15 because I got cameras all in my house and I can see what they was doing.

They really was just, and they're being kids. If my mama had cameras in that house when I was 15, she'd have had footage of me jerking off all around that bit. I'm talking about nothing but me jerking off all around her apartment. Nigger, ain't nowhere in the world. I could have been in there

with some cameras and then let alone a girl, nigga, I'd have been fucking in her bed. Like, ain't nowhere in the world. So just me understanding that dynamic lets me know that, okay, I got a good baby so I can't be, I can't act like she's like me and be as

restrictive like I was when I was her age. They bade some cookies. They looked like biscuits. Yeah, I was dead. But yeah, I wasn't out. They ain't got to be it. Right, that's the thing, right? When you are trying to raise your child with the best of intentions, right,

and you don't let the worst of you be the reason why you make a certain decision. You don't let how you feel in the day determine how you make a decision, right? Whether or not your child gets to go somewhere depends on how you feel in that day. That doesn't sound like that. You know what I'm saying? If the child has earned the right to go and do something, we should do it regardless of how it inconvenienced us. These are the kind of thing.

You have to be very intentional into what you're doing and why you're doing it. But the child has also be aware enough to see that, you know what? I know a lot of friends, they've got a lot of dads. They've got a lot of dads. Like my daddy is really, really like trying to be a daddy. You know what I'm saying? That shit's important for children.

most children want to know that they can depend on their parents whether they show you the appreciation or not whether they you know you butt heads and all of that shit man at the end of the day when the bullshit is going on they call home

and mama gonna pick up and even if mama gonna be mad to the motherfucker mama come and get me you know what I'm saying that right there that shit goes a long way You know what I'm saying? Telling the kids, look, if you fuck up, just call me.

I'm going to come get you. You fuck around and get the drinking with somebody. You know you're drunk. Don't get no call with nobody. There's no telling what they're going to do. Call me. I'm going to come get you. We'll talk about it in the morning.

That was always the thing like, whatever happened, mom, we got pulled over by the police. All right. We're going to come get you. Right. You know, we're going to handle this and we fuck around. Get it to it with the police. You know what I'm saying?

But tomorrow, you have to explain to me about this shit. But we're going to do it. what we need to do as a family tonight. Let's come and see if I can get you before we put you in the car. If they put you in the car, we're going to go down there and get you, you know what I'm saying? It all went bad. My wife ended up in the car. You got the wrong motherfucker, man.

No, that day they had the right one. That's the thing. That day fucking with her child, they had the right one. I think that's one thing I do with my daughter. Like, if I make a promise and she knows, because I'm like, her friends, dad, they do whatever their jobs is. But I'm like, You also got to understand that your friends, parents are successful as well. They just do different jobs.

Your daddy is an entertainer. This is why I be gone so I could through the room. But I'm here to tell you, it's not going to be like that for too long. I'm going to tell you what I got to retire early. Because first of all, I want to. And like you said, you want to retire in the house. You want to die. Absolutely.

So I don't want to be out here doing all this extra work. So what I'm trying to tell you is, you're in the first grade. I got time, but I ain't got too much time. I'm trying to make sure I be the, at least by middle school. So your fifth grade, six grade, oh, baby, dad at home, every goddamn day. That's with the blessing of being, like, almost immediately successful. And when I say immediate, some people, it take 10, 15, 20 years. If you crack that nut in the first five years, you beat the game.

Right. Like, you beat the game. For the first time you pick up the pen to the day you signed that paper, five years, you beat the game like a motherfucker. You got to go. You got to go. It takes way longer than that for a motherfucker to pick up a ball. basketball and bouncing for five years and getting the NBA unless he's seven foot two right right you know what I'm saying some shit like that so no and and and it's kind of hard to designate

what hard work is in entertainment right right because it's not physical labor but it's physically taxing right you know what I'm saying spending a lot of time creative energy it takes a lot out of the body. People don't know that. You know what I'm saying? Travelling, getting up, getting up. My body don't even know how to work when I'm at home now. You know what I'm saying? I will automatically wake up about 5 o'clock in the morning. Not just because I'm old because my body expect me to have to get up and go to the airport.

Right. You know what I'm saying? So I never miss flights. I don't miss nothing because my body already, no. I don't be tired dragging through the airport. They don't need to sleep. Who me? I can't go to sleep.

I go to sleep when I get tired. I fall asleep. I don't go to sleep. I can't lay in a bed and just go to sleep. I can't do it even. That don't just work for me. I get in the bed when I'm tired. But just like, time to go to bed, what the fuck that means?

Right. My body don't know what the fuck that means. I haven't been to sleep at every, I've probably been to sleep in a 24-hour period every goddamn minute. Facts. At the day, at some point in my life, I didn't have been to sleep. What time is it right now? I didn't get to sleep at this time of day. One time.

Many time. Right. Many times. You know what I'm saying? When I'm tired, my past. told me a long time shout out to pastor august wall to august and man i say my wife get mad because i'd be taking naps in the daytime he say why do you take naps in the daytime i say because i'd be tired you say why are you tired say because i work long nights that's just the rest of your sleep yeah

your sleep you're the eight hours that you're supposed to get at night your young man are broken down in three one and a half 45 minutes one 15 like you're eight hours of you're eight hours are accumulant. So when you tired, go to sleep. Like, when you're tired, go to sleep because you're no good to nobody unrested. And me, I can trust my wife out.

I'll have, let's say I got to perform at 1 o'clock. It takes 30 minutes to get from the hotel to the club. I'm going to sleep to 12.15. I'm going to sleep to 1215. Get up, job of the shower, get dressed, go downstairs. Let's go. And she'd be like, what did you get

out of that? How the fuck could you have gotten anything out of that. I'd be jumping around like a rabbit. And I'm over like, what you mean? I'm ready to go. Let's do this. Right back down. My wife lay down for 30 minutes. She's going to continue to lay down. Beyond it. Beyond, for several 30 minutes. People ain't no good, but I don't,

I, because of how we used to move and the place we had to, I used to have to stay in hotels with the front door exposed. Like Lakeitha Inn, red roof, that type of shit. I come up in that era. Well, even the night. hotel you was exposed to the street. Right outside, you go.

You can hit the traffic. It'd be certain days where you have a show and I'm old and I can talk about this shit. It'd be certain days where you'd be like, damn, there was some fine-ass girls in that club. So when the cars start turning, because they already know, they got the idea where the robbers are staying when they come to the time. So when them cars start turning around, you'd be picking out the room and see if it was a car full of a girl that you're going to stand outside and act like you smoke a weed.

But then you go to that gay-s-ass city. Right? Well, you can tell the niggas is lurking. Hey, man, get back to his motherfucking room. Right. Closing blinds. Cut the lights off. Locked them doors.

Don't let them niggas know where you're at. I hope you got ice and sodas in your room. Right. Because we leave this club. We're going straight to that hole. Thanks. Shut it down. And then you see them niggas lurking around that hole.

Because they know they all they need to find out what dough. That door kicked in. That door's kicked in. Well, I tell them now, no doors on the outside. It took a lot. It took a lot for us to start flying. Pimp never got comfortable with flying. Right, yeah.

Because he couldn't bring no pistol. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Because he couldn't bring no pistol. Y'all ain't driving New York. Y'all was, y'all came up during the time when it was really real when you show up and wasn't no way to put no insurance on yourself by going live and talking crazy and letting niggins know. Oh, yeah, we're going to do this.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Well, you were going in the city when there was heavy gays and shit going on. You tried to get in quietly. Right. You know what I'm saying? Lay low, you know the west side niggas and the north side

and the north side beefing out here. I don't even where the show at? Show on the east side. Fuck, that many nicks from both sides coming.

Oh, Chico, I'll tell you. We'll switch again. Let's be room in a minute. We'll be fucking around in the city and then they're a nice leg. I'm switching to ruin.

Hell no. If I get to a city, the mother's too excited to see me at the front desk, I'm not standing at that until. First of all. Like a hell no. First of all, a promoter ain't.

Promoters don't book my travel. No, my hotel and none of that shit. I see you at sound check, my name. You stop doing that shit, then. No, I booked my own travel. I don't know. I'll see you at sound check and at the show. I start booking my own.

But we want to come bring, we want to come drop the money off. I see you at sound check. I said. I stopped booking my travel when I realized this nigga. I was his hanging room. I was his show off. You're going to book the room right next door. No, he doesn't book me to hang with him.

We're going, yeah, man, you know your room ain't ready, yeah, so you can just arrive with me. He'll go get something to eat, feel to go to... Nick, I'm went everywhere, and he's like, I got D.C. He's in the car. In the first year... I'm like, I'm not your bitch. In the first year, U.G.K., we went to a very small town in Louisiana. This is in the first year of UGK.

We went to a very, very small town in Louisiana. And we got to the Ramada end. That's how long ago it was. Got to the Ramada end with the doze on the inside, so it was... Okay, it was a nice one. It was nicer. You know what I'm saying? And then we checking in, and the nigger.

He was like, shit, here you go, my nigga. And they gave me some crack. They gave me some crack. I was like, what the fuck? I thought y'all might want to go hang on the cuts and slagging some shit while he was here. And then gave y'all some crack to sell. That's a nice hotel.

Like, just for us, you don't be, till we would feel more comfortable. Damn. A little cuck of a knicker bag. You turned it down, but I wonder who the nigg was like, man, I fuck with you, bro. You a real nigga, bro. Get out here and sell this.

crack for this show. You said that outside. And I'm the 2-8 ball. I'm going to 3. Now, to be fair, it was like a quarter slab, so I probably would have made about $3.50, $400. That night. That night.

And to be fair, back then, I wasn't making no hell of five money rapping. Again, this first album, first year. You know what I'm saying? So Nick could have used that little extra dollars, but not that case. So tell it, like, the difference from now, because I hear you say,

like, I'm making more now than what I did back then. Now, this is when the album's popping, going crazy. So even still with show money, it was still a little bit tight. Well, it wasn't that it was tight, right? It took a while for the money to catch up to the fame. See, we didn't have videos. We weren't in magazines. So, we didn't even know what we was and shit like that

until we actually went somewhere and did something. So it became more of a word or mouth thing. Like, you know, who are? Did y'all see them niggas? what they look like, all this type of shit. And then we come and we do the shows and the reputation, all the niggas came, it's a real nigga, and they mix was jamming too, you know.

So a reputation started to kind of spread from that, you know, so we, but it's a lot different now than it was then. You know what I'm saying? People would actually go to the club and be willing to listen to a motherfucker they hadn't really heard before do some music. I'm not going to hear that shit now. No.

You know what I'm saying? But at the same time, if your shit wasn't jamming and the girls got off the dance floor, I don't even know if clubs really have dance flowed no more. All that's all I see is tables and shit. You know what I'm saying? But if the girls got off the dance flow, that was it for you. DJ might get this shit out of here type of shit.

But it was... The clubs back then was a lot different than now, and it was the same. Wasn't no bottle service or none of that type of shit. Right. But it was a lot more fighting. I will say it was a lot more... You know, I see now every now and then, like... If it's a problem at the club, somebody will get shot.

Right. That's typically when you know it's a problem at the club. Right. Somebody gets shot. And people ain't getting shot at the club every night. Right. You know what I'm saying? Every nine, then, people get shot.

But back then, no, it was some... You went to the club with four-five niggas. Y'all better be ready to fight. There's some squabbling going on. Yeah, so when we first used to leave, we'd be in by four-five car caravan. So we was only going to small hood. We leave Portland. We'd be going to Lake Chaw.

They'd be ready to fight. Going to Lafayette. They'd be ready to fight. Go to Strawberries. And Bro, Brits, you best be ready to fight. You go to Baton Rouge, you better be ready to shoot. Go to New Orleans. Do you really got to go to New Orleans?

All right, well, you got to go to New Orleans, bring your gun, but we're trying to out to shoot because they got, they got gun guns. Yeah. They got gun guns. That was the first time I saw, like, a plurif, like a bunch of niggas with AKs. Like, most of the niggas in New Orleans in 93 when I went out there.

93, that real. I won. Who we got to talk to about getting us a Trillburger out here? That's far as what? A good franchise. I could have brought you one. It would have been coal and shit. No, we need a franchise.

Oh, no, it's gonna be a minute before you get that here. Why? A minute before you get that here. These things take time. We're not just popping them up like that. This is a real business. It takes time. I gotta figure out where I need to open up in Atlanta.

And see, everybody want a franchise. Right, everybody, man, I need a franchise. I want a franchise. Just tell me you want, let me hold something. Just tell me, let me hold something. That's what you're asking when you had for a franchise. Oh, let me hold something. Well, give me some burgers then.

God's what you're like that. Can't bring to me. I mean, you see, I got a lick and everybody won't end. I get it. It's a lick. It's a look like it's playing. No, see, I don't want the lick. Instead of me going to try to extend and help soul,

I'd rather fuck with a tree or a burger. Just keep buying burgers. You're healthy. Just keep buying your burgers. Because if I just sell a franchise, that means you get to make the money. If I get your franchise, you're just going to operate it. Can I keep the money?

You have the franchise fee. You got to pay the franchise fee, and don't you get a percentage of the store? I get Rogers. As soon as you fuck up, I get it back. I get the whole stove back. Ain't nobody fucking up. Ain't nobody coming in here, man. I might, I don't know, man.

I don't know. I don't know. I don't want to sell the niggas that I know going to fuck up. We ain't got nothing but beef in him, man. You need to buy three months? Y'all going to buy the wrong meat, try to get some cheaper bread. Hell, no. We're going to go through your people.

Now, we're going to go through the S-O-P. We're not going to be in Trill burgers selling Windyburgers. The power they beat. Yeah, I see. Niggins have an especially coming here and be like, these ain't Trill-Burgers. Fuck at this. Pugh, man.

That's why I'm so scared of, like, letting this brand get away from me. You know what I'm saying? Because I know what I'm going to do. Right. I know how I'm going with. I don't know how you're operating. And I know why I'm doing this. I build this, you know what I'm saying?

Because it was a really good product, and I knew that my culture could help grow this comfort. And it's a great way of showing how hip hop can pretty much sell anything in this world. And so that niggas can think broader. Everybody ain't going to have a burger, but everybody's going to find something from their career, from their lifestyle, from their culture that can translate to something else. The skills that I learn to sell music are the same exact skills I use to sell burgers in terms of promotion and marketing. I knew my album was jamming. So I ain't had no problem going to the city, getting on the radio, going to a club, playing some music.

You know what I'm saying? I know niggas gonna like my shit because my shit jamming. Same thing with the burger. I don't have no problem going to New York, California, Florida, St. Louis, I don't give a fuck. Where we got to go with this burger?

I'll take it anywhere because I know this bitch gonna go. Have you always been over having good burgers or just chefing up shit? Not at all. Nothing about the burger business. I ain't ever been in the food blog. I still got a food blog.

We've been doing about 12 years now. But I ain't no hell of fried cook like that. You know what I'm saying? I didn't make this burger. He brought me this burger. Asked me to be a partner But what did you say That you don't like being in the studio

When I came to the burger spot You was in there walking around greeting people Being in there Like so is there a different passion for that Than you have This burger is for me What UGK was for Chad

Wow Damn That's a hell of a statement I can see all the way to success Just like he saw with the music It was a clear path to success Just let us do what the fuck we do They wouldn't let us do it on

too hard to swallow. They kind of try to let us do it on SuperTay. Only until we say, man, just don't just give us some equipment and get the fuck out the way and don't change nothing we give you. Like don't change one song, nothing. If the sample don't clear, call us and tell us we'll reproduce it. Once they gave us what we needed to have to make the music and got to fuck out the way it all started making sense. That's all I needed with this burger It was an opportunity to cut through all the bullshit and just put the burger in front of motherfuckers and let them try the burger.

So I took the burger everywhere that I could go. And that's why I say Coachella would never give me a credential to even get in that hole. You know what I'm saying? I had artists parking. I had my own golf carts around that hole. I'm moving around these fell. I'm flexing around these holes.

You know what I'm saying? I'm moving around rolling out, man. Shout out to Alex and Terrick and Matton him over and rolling around. I'm talking about I'm having it in my way in that hole you know what I'm saying all on birth first phone call I made a roll in loud they we I set up a call first it's a hey man look OG we have so much respect for you man we're so happy to have you you know wanting to be interested in being a part of the festival but we just want to be very clear and transparent

the way we book talent oh whoa whoa whoa whoa I ain't I ain't trying to rap oh I'm sorry I thought you were no I'm trying to do the burghers oh say no what do you want to go they send us the map where you want to pull you them how you want to do you how you want to do that doors that the music could not open a lot of people think this rap shit is going to get you everywhere you want to go no they want to know how you became successful what is your skill set what did you what did you work hard and train to do how does that transcribe into other spaces when i was a rapper i do the state called gumball 3 000 every year yeah they're doing it for the last 13 years these some of the richest

people in the world, like literally, some of the most liquid people, not just paper money, liquid people in the world. And I had great money, they can just race around and race cars and Lamborghinis and shit. And I've had amazing relationships and made great friends. But because nothing that was really an entertainment

business, there was nothing really, there was no business to talk about. Now that I'm in this space right now, everybody is, hey man, I do market research for this. Hey man, I do capital funding for this. Hey man, I do this. I do all of these kind of thing. Now they can help me. You know what I'm saying? Now people can help you. There's probably somebody right now

are you niggins at home and ladies or whatever, how you ever refer to yourself? You know, you don't have to use a derogatory term like that, but everybody watching right now, somebody out here in your life is in a position to help you. You just won't go there. Most people train for a position. You go to a job. Hey man, I want to, I want to, I'm here for job A, but we're not hiring for job D though. We're actually a good opportunity. Well, I've been training for job A. No, we'll train you for job D. We'll train you for that.

Well, I still need to work. No, no, no, we'll, you know, there's a salary. You'll get some more money and we'll train you because we really need people to work in D right now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but I really want to work in A because A probably a glamorous job and all of that. You know what I'm saying?

Look, we've got some open positions right now. You're fighting against where God trying to pull you because you're trying to go where you think you need to be. I stopped fighting. I just was ready for an opportunity to hit me. And when that hole hit me, I took that horn, I took off running. I knew exactly what to do with it when it came. And I wasn't tied up into some other bullshit passing time, fucking off.

Just to be saying I'm doing something. You know what I'm saying? I went there my little shows, I had my other little investments and shit like that. And I sat back and I waited. And when that boy brought me that burger, I was ready to motherfucker go. And I'm still ready to go because I just touched the surface. I'm just getting started with this burger. Everything people think this burger might be is going to be.

And then something. Trust me. I don't want to cheer burger in H-E-L, man. I got to be careful about talking about the burger because it's starting making niggins hunger. Oh, yeah, for sure. I get to talk. That's my job, though, to make you want to eat that mother.

I give you credit, because you was talking this passionately about it before it even came. When you came to do wild and out, me and me and Lowe's, he was telling us about what you was great dude, like, you know, I'm great getting to the burger business. It was like, the burger business, for real. And you was just as passionate about it then.

Yeah, because I was eating a burger. Yeah, you know what this burger is? people that don't know or the people that ain't ate it. And you eat this burger. All this shit you see online, all these Instagrams and TikToks and all these all that shit, when you see the burger and you eat that bitch, it all

makes sense. Because still right now, people that know me and love me still believe that it can't be that good. It's no way this burger can be as good as these people say it is. I knew that she good. Them people, his friends, dog, they're going to say that. Toby, I was in Coachella with Toby.

Toby was with Earth Game. It was what Earth Game was in. And I think it's Olu. Olu was there eating the burger. And Olu was like, man, this motherfucker good as hell. And Toby said, nigga, when he first brought it to me, I thought I was going to have to lie when they cut the camera on. Because he was willing to support me regardless.

You know what I'm saying? But he wasn't show if it was going to be good or not. But with the camera roll, he still was going to act like, man, ate the burger, the wife ate her, and them cheering started. When them cheering, that's where I'm from, like, kids, cheer. When them cheering started eating the burger. And then my eyes are you being able to do cheering,

you know you're good to go, because you've got to take them cheering where they want to go. You got to get something to eat them on that. That's what them cheering won't. And you know what they're going to eat it and go be quiet somewhere? Well, eat that two, three times a week. Oh, yeah. But I knew I had it.

You got that. I got it. I got to ask just on my own personal end of my own personal end. I will, it's just going to take some time. Just me wanting to know, what's your favorite Pimp C verse? God damn. Molly Shattered Dreams. Okay.

Because it's a very obscure UGK record. It's lost in the middle of a lot of really, you know, very classic UGK-style regs. But Shattered Dreams is really him. Like, that's him. Like, he was the one they said was too young. too short, two this, two that, we're never going to make it.

And I used to be like, when niggas would play me, like, my nigga, that shit ain't jamming, that shit, that shit ain't jamming. And Pimble would be like, man, you can't tell people that shit. Tell them what to do better. Just don't tell them it's bad. You got to tell them what to do better, because if you don't tell them how to improve themselves,

they ain't going to get no better. He would always take, but then niggas can't stand criticism. Be like, man, I ain't going to lie, man. Your rhymes is cool, man, but them drums ain't going to work. Some drums is terrible. That shit ain't going to work. You need to, who make your beats, dog? You need somebody better to make your beats.

Just rap over other nigger beats to keep your old style going, but you got to find this nigga beats is trash, bro. And niggas and be like, hey, man, I listen to my beat. All right, but when it's over, I'm going to tell you how I feel. Right. Say, man, you can't make rap music. I don't know what it is you want to do with your life, but this ain't it. This ain't it for you.

Not like this. You got a lot more to do. Don't play no more music for nobody for about two years. That type of shit. You know what I'm saying? When you put yourself out there, man, you got to be willing to accept the criticism as well as the accolades, you know what I'm saying?

And Shattered Dreams was really about him saying, don't let nobody tell you you can't do it just because you ain't ready right then and there to do it. Right. You know what I'm saying? Because nobody said it wasn't a motherfucker thought we was going to be who we ended up became.

Eventually became. You know what I'm saying? Even his mama who wasn't really sure about it but supported him anyway. Once she saw where this shit was going, she stopped her whole life. to get behind him and support it because she saw that it was actually going to be something real, something tangible, that was going to take her child very far in this world. And so she just wanted to get behind him and help. And that was a very, very unique relationship because Pimp was the only child, Pimp's mama was the only child.

So he didn't have a bunch of Aeney's or uncles, he had him through marriage and shit like that. But it was his grandmother, his mama, and him. Like, one, two, three. and so there was no way that she was going to stand to the side and not get behind them because we had just got it to her with a record company just fired the manager got sued by the manager attacked by the IRS all this type of shit going on and a nice comfortable company you know what I'm saying they owned them all the vending machines to put off so they had good money and she gave all of that shit up the business all the way now just to help him and he

eventually brought back more than the vending machines ever could have made for the family. Just those kind of things, man, those kind of moments that really took us from where we was going to where we needed to go from somebody sewing into us, somebody believing us.

And you got to understand, this is UGK at its worst at its lowest moment. And somebody came in and believed in us enough to take everything they had to help us turn this shit around. And so for him,

it was always about don't let no one shatter your dreams. Don't let nobody tell you you're not going to be who you think you can be just because you're not that person now. You know what I'm saying? Because everybody don't want to be cool at a certain time.

Everybody don't want to be cool and everybody else is cool. You're in high school, you're a freshman, you want to be cool like a senior. In college, you're a freshman, you want to be cool like a senior. You're a young adult, you want to be cool like older people. I always tell people that everybody got X amount of time that they're supposed to be cool. Most people use it up very early and there's no cool left when they get older because they didn't prepare to be old. I was told

take your youth and work hard don't try to be cool work hard stack your money when you don't understand life and you got money

then you're gonna really be cool you got good credit some cash in the bank you know what I'm saying and you hadn't got caught up with nightlife and fucking off and just spending money

on bullshit all you know is about being conservative with money now you got some real money and you can actually now you can really spend money not. Now you're spending on shit that you know you're going to get everything

out of. Typically young people spend money on their company. It's collective. If we got five people and it's $20, we're going to buy $10 worth of weed to bids and some blunts and we're going to all collectively. Do that. And one of us, if we young, get more than the rest we want it, because it's not fun

being by yourself. You get older, you got some money, you're not trying to spend it on nobody. Nobody. I only have a birthday party when somebody pay me to have a birthday. party. I don't want to celebrate my birthday with other months. My wife was very adamant about that shit. We are not

doing no public goddamn birthday parties. No more. Fuck that. Spitting your money to go to a club so other people can have fun. What fuck is that about? But then I'm an entertainer, so I would get paid. I get paid to do my birthday party. But then that stopped being fun.

You book a whole week and a birthday shit. You don't win on Thursday, Friday, you're tired. I'm tired. And he still got Sunday But I walked in the Sunday night Party miserable than the motherfucker I'm good I ain't going

These niggas can hair that shit How many times y'all nigga tried to get money back I won't take it If you ever see me booked at a club A nigger was tripping Because what I charged him to go He must have thought I was somebody else Because I'm not going

It ain't enough money you can pay me to go in there Every night They pay for these head, Bob Every night in me and my wife will go out the road, we be in a certain city, and we go get a good dinner. Mm-hmm. And if I ain't doing one of these little tours that's done by midnight, and I get on a new cuff and call me at 1 o'clock talking about this time to go to the club.

Relax. They get that nigga, that money back, man. I'm about to shit down after 1130. 11.30, my body. Get that money that money back. He ain't going to want to have that money back in. Man, get that nigga that money back. Come get it.

They think you coming. Come get it. Man, I don't care. Come back. You already made your money. And he'll cover you, but you. really won't get them, niggas, ain't money back now, nigga. I had to get out the bed down.

I said, the door, we might as well go. Nah, shit. A promoter thought I would coming in, because there wasn't nobody there. He said, you still coming? I said, nigga, we are the club. I'm going on. I'm going to go down as four people or four thousand.

I'm going to come and give you the best that I got. No, but won't nobody in there. I'm a rap for me as practice. But he ain't had my back end. Who gets paid to go to practice? He ain't had the back end. I can see if you had the back end. Well, he might as well, he might as sit in the car.

Me and him just sitting downstairs at the car. some music and I'll rap in the badger seat. No, my car was still driving out while we were talking. I was like, hey, I'm about to leave. I don't know, nigga, give my money. I've only ever done one show where a nigga didn't have my money because the OG and my recipe, Wicked Crick, told me I needed to do it for the kid.

And that's the first time and probably the last time I ever did it for the key. Did it for the kid. I'll give the kids some money. But I ain't doing it for the kid. I didn't do it for the kid. I don't give the kids some money. Like, let me make my money.

Okay, here you go, kids. You go, the $20 for you, you know. Well, I'm not, I don't know. My kid, maybe. Mm-hmm. My kid, baby. You know, not your kid. No.

You know how I'm playing when they say you got to put the mask on yourself before you have some. But I can't help your kids if I don't help me. Right. And then we need this order to three. How am I help somebody. I can't. On. No, nigg.

You got to put it on. You put it on. You put it on. You put it on. You try to put it on you. You pass out. The baby can't help you. No.

It's like, oh. Man. Then the baby's going to fuck around and take it off itself. Not understanding the situation. That's crazy. Man. So many goddamn questions, man. I remember you saying that, you know, when you went

and when y'all did Big Pimping, you felt like you had something to prove on that record as far as the lyrical part of it, you know, rapping. You know, rapping. I mean, and being, showing that the South got bars and the MC part of it. Do you, did that make you feel like you got there? Was at that point that you felt like, okay,

and now I got the respect, or was it a later point? Sometimes you go and see niggas playing basketball at the YMCA, and most niggas is just there, get a workout in, play some ballhouse for fun. And then you got that one motherfucker that come in there and want to hoop in the wild, like, it's scouts in the goddamn, bleachers in the stands or some shit.

That's how I rap. I decided very early that every rhyme I write could be my last rhyme. So I got to put every goddamn thing I want to put in these motherfuckers song before I get out of it.

And in the case of big pimping, I had every intention on going and just putting up balls on balls because of who I was working with. but he had intentions on doing a party record like that was the thing

it was not like renegades where this is a beat and me and you're going to rap against each other this is like oh this is my party record this ain't one of those records this is my party record and y'all niggas make good party music come get on this party record with me

I wouldn't got on a party record but I wouldn't rapping by no party or no shit like that because I'm already here and I know about bunch of motherfuckers that I don't know gonna be here let me let me just do what I do

and that was the whole point of Pimp not even wanted to do the record because he didn't feel the record allowed him to do what he do he did it you know what I'm saying that's why he only did A-Bahs because he was like I want to rap on this shit but I'm gonna I'm gonna do A-Boy probably the most memorable

recited A-Bahs in hip-hop. You know but that was the thing about a nigga like that and a nigga like that didn't need to say a lot to be impactful. Pimp was, Pimp could rap. Pimp could rap very well. Yeah, he could.

But Pimp never felt a need to import skills and all of that shit, which he could do all of this shit. And there's moments throughout, you know, the career where you'll see Pimp, you know, shows some dexterity. It was always there. But he just didn't want to get confused.

Like sometimes I put a bunch of words in there and I put some big words. You might even know what the fuck immediate. You might need to go read. Presario, Nick. You know what I'm saying? Big Southern rap, him Pasario. What the fuck is a presario? Well, I mean, he's a person held in high regard that typically holds a high standing

system. You go one right here. I mean, I know it was him, but I didn't know the definition. Thank you, Nick. But him, he just didn't want to be misunderstood. That's why a lot of his rhymes are very slow and dragged out. They're intentional. I could rap fast on this record, but I don't need to rap fast on this record for you to know what the fuck I'm trying to say on this record.

Me, I tried to put a word or a syllable everywhere they could fucking go. I wanted to rap over here. I wanted to touch every goddamn beat in the motherfucking record. And this is before you even had Pro Tools. You know, Ryan Derr is the first album done, a rap album done on Pro Tools.

For real? We had beta version of Pro Tools. It wasn't even available for people. The studio we worked at was given the beta version of it to test it because he was like the number one radio commercial producer. He had the largest sound bank in the country, and Joe found him, and we was over there working,

and they were like, yeah, this is going to help us record everything fast. But I didn't want to punch in because I didn't want to say nothing in the studio that I couldn't say on stage. So punching in to me was kind of like a cheat, you know. So I didn't punch in for years. And it was just really like, we just don't have time, man. Just fucking punch it kind of a thing. So you want to do the whole verse at one?

Yeah, always. Always, because when I get on stage, I got to do it all in one. Like, technically, there was no, there was, there was, there was a hype man of UGK for a small period of time, Bobo, the Psycho, Bobo Luciano. Yeah, Super Tight TV, was the hype man for UGK. But that was, I mean, but it was more performative than anything. Like, we didn't really need nobody doing back and vocals and shit like that. He just brought more energy. That's why he was a hype man because he brought more energy to the show, because we were just niggas rapping, walking back and forth.

He made the shit a little bit more. entertaining. But, no, man, I just, I just always wanted to be able to outwrap all these niggas. I never needed to be the best rapper all the time. I just need to be better than a nigga in front of me. I tend to rise. I tend to ride to get the competition. A P.M.C. song, I always wanted to hear a bun, B, verse, or a song that I wish you would have been on. I know you're strapped. Yeah, but that was a personal song. That was a personal song. I know. But that's That shit was... No, the beat is hard.

There's a lot of... Look, man, there's songs that y'all are never heard that has some really flagrant... Flagrant shit on it. Very, very flagrant shit on it. And I always tell people, man, you know, if you got something on your chest, if you're an artist, man,

go to the studio and say, but you ain't got to put it out. Just get that out your system. So you don't be walking around feeling like that on the motherfucking day because that shit can affect your judgment and how you handle the shit in a moment. And he had a lot of moments like that

where he would just be at the house, And again, he's in Atlanta. I'm in Houston. So I don't hear a lie of the shit until I go to the house. And then, even then, they're not trying to play that shit for me. I'm going to be like,

where the fuck of this came from? And then I'm going to start asking, so you know this nigga made this rain. Y'all's sitting around like... And ain't nobody going to say that. And ain't nobody going to say nothing. If y'all ain't nobody to say shit. If y'all ain't tell me,

that means y'all ain't tell him that. Right. You know what I'm saying? So, but whatever, like I say, I would just let these things be what it was going to be. And I'd be like, And I'd have to tell Nick, you know what would happen if this record come out right.

You know what's going to happen if this song will get out there. You know it's going from 10 to 1,000, that type of shit, you know. And he would take your guidance on there probably more than anybody else's. He'd take it into consideration. I mean, we never heard this shit, so he took it into consideration. You know what I'm saying? And a lot of times, you know, Pimp, I don't know if this is the right way to frame this. but

Pimp was fucking with niggas a lot Like Pimp was fucking with niggas a lot Right And really just like Pimp would fuck with niggas because he could I don't know no other way to say it He would fuck with niggas because he could And he really just was like

I'm gonna go on stage the night and diss this nigga Right And then he'll go on stage and diss the nigger And my man, what the fuck with it? I'm just fucking around Nigs ain't gonna do shit What the fuck you know, I'm like

They might Somebody might want it If they stand in next to the wrong niggins When they hear this shit You never know But I mean to be fair Like that that wasn't really

That wasn't a concern for us For many years That wasn't like We weren't worried about Niggas coming back And get doing nothing for a long time You know So I just

You know It's a lot of shit I just were just, all right, well, and I knew niggas couldn't fuck with me, you know, and we couldn't fuck with us. So it would just, these things would be saying, and then, you know, it would kind of just live out there, but it wasn't

social media. Right, right. Right? It wasn't on social media. So, unless you was in Birmingham that night, or you was in Dallas that night, right? Yeah, but that nigga said that shit. But we did go on a little tour, like day for day talking shit, and that kind of got out. That went a different

way, but, I mean, look, man, what you're going to do? The man was a grown man. You know, he felt how he felt. It is what it is. It was just going to be what it was going to be. And I never really felt threatened by most people. And that says that maybe I was young and ignorant about shit

because anybody could obviously get killed. And so many people have died from this culture. But I don't know, man. We just, as I'm about saying, I'm a much older, calm a nigger right now because I don't realize how much shit I actually really was in at certain parts in my life. Like even casually like people could have gotten killed

and everybody's not here man, everybody's not here. You know, some people died naturally. Some people died differently and I just sit back and look at this shit and I'm still going up. I don't, I deal with a lot of survivors' remorse. You know, I deal with it because a lot of people

speak to that. A lot of people sold into who I eventually became and they all and almost all of them are no longer here to see it. So I have to live in a way that these people were expecting me to live. I got to carry myself in a way that people were expecting me to carry myself because that was why they were supporting me.

So when Pimp would always say, I'm the best rapper, I got to go somewhere and sit down and actually be that best rapper because he really believed that and he not been to stop saying it. Hell no. So if one day a nigga could show up and be like, we got 100 racks on so-and-so, because this type of shit was happening, you know, DMX and, you know, you know, You know, Rockefeller and refriders

and all these different niggas was battle rapping against each other and shit and I don't know what I'm gonna be in the room with one of these niggas. I'm gonna wrap one of these niggas under the table if I gotta be type of thing because I don't want to let that nigger down. But then I would go around and tell

nigga Pimp had the best beats in the world. Couldn't nobody make no better beats than Pimp and you couldn't talk shit. Like we both would brag on each other of the thing. He lived up to everything that I said he was and more. And so I'm just really trying to live my life

nowadays to be the best version of myself that they saw when all I saw was the worst version of myself in the moment. People sacrifice for me. Those people are not here, man. And it's hard to enjoy it. I receive it. I acknowledge it. But it's like certain things I do and it feel bad because this person ain't here. They're not here.

She not here. You know what I'm saying? And this is what they wanted for me. A lot of these these things that have happened for me now is because other people wanted it, other people fought for it, sacrificed, prayed for it, you know what I'm saying, put their life on a line. I put my life on the line for friends to see them, you know, get to where we were trying to go. My whole thing was never, UGK for me was never about money and music. I knew we were going to make good music so we was going to make money. I had to get niggas home. That was my thing. I used to drive all the shows. I get up, I wake

niggis up. I used to pack the suitcases because I got tired of the police on I 10 pulling us over and fucking our bags up because niggas just throwing shit in the suitcase. I started packing a nigga's suitcase so when they opened it, they could see it was neat and folded. There ain't no dope in here. You know what I'm saying? We used to get pulled over literally every other weekend on our 10. After like

95, once the interstate got hot, that was just a known thing that was going to happen. I knew I had the license. I knew I knew how to talk to police. So I would just drive. We'd get the show, go to sound check, get to the hotel, check niggas in, go do the show, come back. If it's cool,

little city, we could vibe out. I let nigs, hey, you know, send some little work out there, if I want to hollet some holes or whatever like that, if I knew it was a different vibe in the city, don't come out the room, shut the shit down. And in the morning, I wake niggas up, put niggas in the car, let's go. I was always the older one, the more responsible, one in the group. And that was just the dynamic, man, because we had to get home. All that other shit never really mattered to me. I had people's husbands, people's sons, people's brother. I've had friends that I've had to make that call. My role manager, literally two new years ago, had a heart attack on the road. I didn't want to have to call that man, my man, tell him he didn't make it, no shit like that.

But I'm the boss. That's the job. It's my job to call these people, because I'm the one that told their family they was going to be all right when they left with me. So I've always carried that kind of responsibility with me, because ain't none of us out here doing it by itself for the most part. You know, I could go out and rap by myself, but that ain't really fun. You know, I don't need a hype man. I don't need nobody to pick up the money. I don't need nobody to do sound check. But fucking fun is that. You know, just out there by itself,

that's got to be miserable. I know a lot of niggas that don't want to be with nobody. I've been around you, my nigga. You ain't that cool to be around. You must can't stay at your motherfucking self. And I can't stand you sometimes after about an hour. You spend all your time with just you? Couldn't be me, my nickname.

Right. But I'm blessed, man. I'm blessed, man. I made it this far. I can still see success. down the road and there's a clear path and, you know, I try to leave instructions. I take my wife everywhere to all the business beating so she can know everything from top to bottom.

I try to, you know, leave instructions and be like, you know, this is what this company need to do and she got, she understands these things. Because I don't know. I don't know. So, you know, you all got to have, you got to have a will. You know what I'm saying? You got to have your will and testament. You got to have who this money is supposed to go to.

You have to have all your shit lined up. All your affairs got to have all that shit because they want to take your money and give it to the motherfucker state. Yes, they would. They are dying for you, to take your shit when you die. They are hoping that somebody is so overwhelmed with emotion and grief after you pass that they don't do everything they're supposed to and they can take some shit.

Everybody wonder like, damn, our grandmother them had this house. What happened? What happened? We went. You know how to do the property? Nobody do the shit. Pay the property tax. Nobody did this. Nobody did that.

You know what I'm saying? That's crazy. But people would be overcome with grief. You know what I'm saying? that people don't have I don't understand men that live with women that they don't trust

I don't understand men that live with women that they hide money from why you got her I might have got to know where everything at in case something happened to me because I can't get to it and I can't be on the phone

calling to call and telling you where shit is at hey you got to go to Terry House what fuck me and Terry just go to Terry out to tell Terry you need that from you know how hard it's going to be to get that shit from Terry

Oh, he ain't got nothing over him? I ain't got nothing about What he's talking about? Boy, came back that shit Who he's talking about. Bonn't look here. He got about $2,500 over here, but that ain't going to really help. I think he was at the last stage of his dementia.

I'm telling you, y'all. I didn't see him that three years ago. I'd have seen it from the, from the street side or what happened when your shit ain't together and it go bad. I'd have seen it from the absolute 100% legal side. And shit, some of the most organized, having shit together, people I've ever seen and known in my life, smart, intelligent, sound people. But had no idea what you have to do when somebody died. Like, you got to prove you somebody's husband.

Like, you can't just say that, my wife. You got to go get the license. You got to have pictures. You got to have all this shit. Because they could just say it was a marriage of convenience, and you wouldn't really. It's so much that goes into that type of shit. I didn't realize that to my sister-in-law died. And that's all I've been trying to do is make sure.

Here's the other thing. Here's the crazy thing. And maybe more people know this. I didn't know this at all. So I'm doing my will. They say, well, who do you want to get your money to? I said, I'll leave everything to my wife. Everything to my wife.

Okay, and who else? What you mean? Anybody else? I died, everything to my wife. What if she died before you? Fuck. You think about that? That was like two days.

That was two days in reflection. Just the idea. that my wife could die before me. You know what I'm saying? I hadn't even really, like, thought about that. Like, just as a concept, that fucked me up. And if that happened in the moment,

I know I wouldn't have been prepared. So all that shit that you know is going to be hard and rough to deal with and painful to talk about and all that shit, do that shit while you got a sound mind and some free time. Because when folks die,

you got to get through them children, you got to get through moms and all of that. I don't mean to be getting into this because I know you're grieving, but you understand what I'm saying. This is very real. This shit is so hard to try to fight through dealing with the emotion and grief, and you're trying to keep a lot inside because the children, you know, you want to be there for the kids.

And if the kids see you cry, they're going to cry. And it becomes a circle. So you're trying to be strong and do all this for you. And your parents see you hurt. Your parents waiting for you. Somebody, wait, come on. I can't do it. I got to do this.

I got to do that. And the more you try to make sure your house is together, the more you realize that the system is not, the system is counting on your fucking house to be a part. And they want their money still until you prove who you need. But I'm like, if I'm trying to prove to you and they call it for their money, they're like, yeah, pay that until you can prove them. I'm like, what?

So you're paying penalties. So I'm proving. It's a lot, man. And they ask these people to do this in some of the darkest, deepest moments of their life, bro. I've seen that shit happen, man. That's not cool. I watch people. I love go through it.

And so I'm trying to be ahead of this shit. That's where it comes back when you say, previous in the interview earlier, financial literacy that's part of it. Everybody should have a will. I don't give a fuck. You nine. Keep writing in it until the end of five.

Working class people more than anybody. Nine to five people more than anybody need a will and testament because they're the ones that are going to suffer most if they're don't get the insurance money if they if the house doesn't get those are the people that you know there's enough money that if something happens to me we have shared accounts so that kind of a thing so it's not like i would have a separate account and she got to prove she's my wife to get that money

or anything like that but everybody's life is not set up like that that's why i don't understand why you wouldn't why are you even sharing your life and your shit like that with somebody you really don't even fuck with you know what i'm saying you and you are not supposed to have a woman in your house you don't trust in your house i know too many men that left for the weekend and came home and everything was gone you know what i'm saying like type of shit and these things happen all the time you have to be prepared for the worst you don't sit around and think shit gonna go bad you hope for the best you plan for the worst right and every time like something good happening how you feel be feel good i'm all right you know i try not to get too high so when bad things happen i don't get too

low. My son is like my son Brandon is like this. The most even killed person I've ever seen in my life. I've never seen him get excited and I've never seen them depressed. The man about about two months ago my son was working doing construction. He fell

off a house. I think he said about 12 feet, 12 or 13 feet. Broke his leg in five places. Broke both the tibia and amphibia in five places on the ground screaming, you know, just trying to get, went to the hospital, Game is dope call us.

I'm cool, nah. I'm good, nah. You know, most, and he's, you know, super athletic and, you know, workout and all of that. Now he can't really do nothing. Most people like that get very depressed. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, you all right over there? Yeah, I'm watching football.

I'm chilling. Playing with the kids. I wish I could play a little more, but I'm down. I can't do much. But, you know, I'm all right. Man, if I couldn't go nowhere and do nothing, I'll be about COVID. The only reason I survive COVID is because we had the back. We had a backyard that I could go outside and breathe and walk around and do shit like that.

That being immobile, having to depend on somebody, that don't work for me. Man. That don't work for me. He's over there like a chap, but he's like, yeah, I probably got about a year rehab. So, I'm gonna be down for a minute, oh man, I'm be down for a minute, but I'm gonna be, you know. But he got hopes of knowing that, oh, it's great. Yeah, I mean, he's not, like I say, he doesn't get too down on himself. Right?

I'm having a bad day. bad day. You know, you look at your life, you think about your worst day, let's say, let's say April 2nd is your worst day of the year. Hey, that's my birthday. But we're going to hope, let's say April 3rd. There you go. I want you have a good birthday. I don't want you to do that. But let's say April 3rd is the worst day of your year. Right. If you look at the calendar, you zoom in on the calendar, and you see April 3rd and you see this whole big, deep, dark crevice, right? Then you go out, you see the week. April 3 was on.

And it's not that deep because of the mothership is not. Then you see the month of April, right? Then you see that year. Then you see 10 years. And you see enough of your life that those deep, dark moments are just a little flip on the radar. So you can't get stuck in that moment in that sense about how bad shit is.

You have to trust that, well, if this is bad, let this be as bad as he get. You know what I'm saying? Let this be as bad as he get. And just let it get a little bit better every day. At least I can cling to that. You got to find something to hold on to, man, to keep your sanity in this. You're old-school driven.

That comes from old school. But I know a lot of old niggas is fucked up. Most of the people in my generation did not embrace the next generation, which means they were less receptive to embrace technology. I'm one of the last things in my generation to get on it, but I understood the value in it. And I had people helping me understand the value in it. By the time, a lot of my conditions,

contemporaries tried it. There was no way for them to grow. It was no place and no space for them to really grow in it. You know what I'm saying? People get frustrated with this shit and then they go sit down somewhere. I go do some other shit because they don't want to come outside and not looking how they're supposed to look. The fuck that. What are you talking about, bro? Bring your ass on outside. You know what I'm saying? What do you think? What's you think? What's you think 12 year old? Do you look better than what you look like? No. We all look crazy.

And then we made something to ourselves. Somebody came around clean us up or whatever. You got enough money to start looking like you're supposed to look at whatever. You know what I'm saying? I told my brother that I said, bro, we are the new old niggas. We can't be acting like we're the young niggas. When we graduated in 2010, this opposition, when we graduated in 2010, it was some niggas who graduated from high school in 96,

talking about some, I'm still the new. No, you're not. He graduated in 96. I just had to tell a niggas. Get out of here. I've known for many years. And he recently got locked up and he came home. You know, he's definitely not the man he was before.

You could tell that his life has been hard and he's been through some things. And he come out. He's like, man. I don't know how he got my number. I'm still looking for whoever gave wink my number. Um, he calmed. He was like, man, you know what? I'm just trying to get back, right?

You know, I'm fucking with this music. Now I'm like, what you mean? You fucking with this music. Like, you know, I'm trying to do. do this music, man, I figured you could help me. If you do what? You know, shit, hooked me up with some DJ. I said, let me explain some shit to you. First of all,

what do you think a DJ going to do for you? What are you going to play my record in the club? When is he going to play your record? Tell me what songs he's supposed to play your record in the middle of that ain't nobody going to notice. Tell me the two big

records that's jamming that's going to play in the club. So they're going to play dreams and nightbans and then your shit. Right? That's what you're telling me. DJ loses his motherfucking job doing that shit. Secondly, what make you think I'm going to use my relationship with a DJ to help you? When I know you ain't jamming, you ain't heard my music, I ain't got to. I heard you rap before you went to jail.

You wasn't good then. Yeah, I shouldn't have called this. But everything I said, because he's too old for this shit. He's too old for this shit. So you know exactly what he did. When they got out the phone with you When they got out the phone He called some other niggas

Yeah, you know bun, don't fuck with me Yeah, yeah Bung don't change, man Let me tell you something. Got-tham burgers and shit man, this nigga don't act like you know the fuck I have. Man, we wasn't cool before.

Every nigga in my town know who I was cool with in school. Yeah, I do too. They all know who my little circle of niggas was in his school. Right. So we don't be agging like We and you ain't walked, we had walked no hallways.

Your locker wasn't by mine. We wasn't in homeroom. You ain't your 50. Nothing. And my thing is, I'm not going to lie to you. I'm too old to be on this phone. Talking about, well, let me see what I can do. Let me hit you back.

No, because you're going to be texting. I don't want to answer it to all that shit. I got my phone getting mad. Fuck that. I got a burger. You know what I'm saying? I need to answer real calls on my phone. So I can't be disregarding my phone if I think you're going to call me to text.

Fuck that. Look at him, my name. There's nothing I can do for you in this thing. I don't think there's anything you can do for yourself. Now, if you feel I'm wrong, by all means, go out and prove me wrong. I've had this conversation with my nephew. My nephew's like, Uncle, I want to rap. Okay.

Prove it to him. Go ahead. Go ahead. the same thing? I say, yep, and you know what I did? I moved out the next day. I moved out the next day, and I went to prove to her that I could make it when she said I couldn't. So, there you go. Prove me wrong. There you go. Prove me wrong? Yeah. Let's go out there and do it. Go out there and do it.

Two times a week. My first song, going to be a diss to my uncle. First off, fuck, my uncle, nigga. Let it fuel the fire. Let him fuel the motherfucking fire. Eminem Mama, Eminem Mama, fueled all the pain and hurt inside him to make all that music. And I bet ain't no, no nigga you know living good as Eminem Mama.

Even if he don't give a hundredth of what he got, she's straight. We're not going to go. We're not going to do all of this. Let me tell you something. I'm very good at no. I'm very good at no. I'm very good at no. I'm very good and no.

We're not going to do this, especially in your face. Please don't ask me something in mixed company. Please don't ask me something in mixed company. But then you're going on to fight and all that type of shit because I'm going to take... You really want to have this conversation? Yeah, I would. I'm going to singe some music.

I'm going to get it. This nigger. This nigger is my boss. And I'm not saying I'm right. That's the thing. I'm not saying I'm right. On the podcast. That's a few that people understand, like you said earlier,

everybody don't know how to take criticism. No. Everybody, because I felt like how pimp did. I don't feel like I don't lie to a lot of people. And I'm not saying that I don't lie to you and who am I to tell you you good or bad? That in my opinion, but you came and asked me. Should I tell you the truth or should I just give you some motivation?

Most people ask you that for you to tell them what they want to hear. Yeah, absolutely. The whole point of actually is this is how they ask you. This is what they say. They don't ask you what you think. They say, that's your jamming, right? Right? Like it's infectious

And some shit Like if I smile Hard enough This nigga's gonna smile too If I like it hard enough He gonna like it too That shit jamming hard Yeah

That shit Not really my nigga But there's room for improvement There's a rule for improvement But that's not no Not right now, no Oh you're a realist Man we got the hip hop

Historian in here Man my boy in new face You know he got something Don't you saw him Some shit he's gonna tell you I'm I'm excited to see what he could possibly have new, because I feel like I'd sign most of everything this niggas had over the years.

I've known Newface for several years now. God damn it, new face! And I feel like every time I've ever seen him, he then brought me something to sign. And I feel like I didn't sign the catalogs. I don't know what's left. No, it's naked. We didn't have done the magazines and all this shit. I don't know what's left.

This is a Nunexie. This niggis is one from the outside the ice wall. So what I had to do, I wanted to say for this platform, I put on social media when Rock the Bells announced that they were ever going to do. The first-ever hip-hop cruise, I put my logo, New Starved, and Rock the Bell's logo, which is cruise, and I reached out to my Instagram supporters and said, can you tag Rock the Bells and show love because I want to be on this boat. And everybody showed love, but I got this one DM from this brother right here.

He said, give me a number. I'm going to make a call tomorrow. Suffice to say I made it on that Rock the Bell's cruise. My collection was displayed on the 7th floor. So I wanted to say personally, thank you for that DM, my brother. That's very easy, man. You do a lot. You do a lot to show people love and give people their flowers.

You extend yourself on your dime, travel around this country. You know what I'm saying? To support. Even before you were knowing these people as contemporaries and friends, you were traveling around the country on your dime as a working man, parent and all of this shit, right? Single Dad? See, you know what I'm saying?

All of this type of shit, but still finding the time to get out there, support people, go to their concerts, keep the tickets, take pictures, get posters, all this type of shit believing that there was going to be inherent value and all this shit at a certain point. Everybody was going to feel about these people like you felt about these people. And look now.

Everybody does, and you are a premier historian of the culture. There's no reason that you shouldn't have been on that boat. And L.L., he did a book sign. It's called L.L. Presents the Streets Win. Fifty years of hip-hop creatives. Right there, in this book right there, they featured yourself. Oh, wow.

I'll show you that. again, so this was just put out, so... Okay, so that's something new to side. They did it. That dick, a new face. Boy, goddamn, boy. I got the first bum-beat, Trill Burger when you came to Atlanta. I thought you're about to pull that fish out of the pocket, man.

Man, if you would have pulled a Trilburger out of your pocket, then would have been hard. Well, man, we said it right there. Look, we got the stuff. He was already inside. And we got the kind of... We got the kind of... So low, we talked about that was difficult to make. Without his brother right there.

This is all. My new thing, new face is here. Yeah. Yeah, sir. Good. Present tense. We got to start referring to you in the present tense. Like you said, it's already signed.

And these are not all in one sitting. Oh, I know. That's the other thing. These are different moments. You know what I'm saying? Catch me in different places with different shit. But that's a negative gay to do with your number. that caused you to jail.

That's cool. How much you're going to cost me? $100,000. And it's crazy. I know the brother. I would love to help him. But whatever he thinks it is that I can do for him, I can't really do for him.

For several reasons. You know, for several reasons. I wish him the best. And I would hope that people succeed in spite of me. You know what I'm saying? Like anybody that I didn't think could make it. And it's probably been one or two, for sure. But I hope you're making it inspire.

you know what I'm saying blow up and shit on me but you know what I'm saying I shit back though yeah I do I do shit back though just when you was doing the cannonball gumball gunball gunball what was your vehicle choice typically an escalate if I can get them they're very hard to get in Europe you know what I'm saying so but it got a lot of room because I typically go four people one of the people's like six foot five six with six and shit like that and I need a car with a lot of room and trunk spaces valuable because you typically gone for 10 days. You know what I'm saying? You fly

in, you got to get your car situated, you drive for six days, and then you've got two days apart in on the back end of them. So I need to call in a lot of rooms. I can bring a lot of luggage. There's some people that are being Ferraris and Lamborghinis, they ain't got no luggage space in that, but these are very

rich people, so they'll have... Another car? Well, sometimes they have another car. They'll have a support car, right? So they just carry their clothes and take pictures and shoot video of them. Or sometimes I know people that have shipped different clothes to different cities and they just leave what they walk and just get to the hotel and it be

closed for that night and close for the next day and then leave whatever they had and just keep going. But I've seen people spend some obscene amounts of money without trying to be like not like capping. They're rich and it's just very convenient to do things a certain way. That's always been something I

want to do. Like that's my meditation that's my leisure. I drive around man at the show's 90% I I say that at this point 97% of the time, that's what I'm doing, just because, you know, it clears my mind and it's, you know, just time for me to be able to gather my thoughts. But the gunball, just being able to ride around like that is something I always want to. I'm not even in the cars, but just the actual.

It's intense, though. It's intense because it looked like it's fun, but it's a lot. So, like, let's say, it's a challenge. You know, the first day of driving is on Sunday. We'll get in about Thursday and Friday. We'll drink and we'll party and party. You get up Sunday, about noon, get in your car.

You're going to drive about six, seven hours. We're going to get to the city. Going to check in. We're going to go to dinner. Going to go to club, party until about three, four in the morning. 9 o'clock in the morning, we're going to get back in the car. I'm going to drive about six hours. Go to lunch.

Anywhere from 4 to 6 hours, depending on how fast you drive. Go to lunch. You're going to drive another 46 hours. Check in, go to dinner, go to club, party, four in the morning, get back up, getting the car, 9 o'clock in the morning. That's intense. No, it ain't. And the more, the further you go, the longer to drive.

I'd be straight. I've driven, I did, I did Atlanta to, we did Atlanta to New York one day. That was the second day. First day was Miami to Atlanta. The second day was Atlanta to New York. Oh, yeah, I can do that. As long as I ain't got to go to the party. And if they require you to go to the party, I might be in trouble.

We left Atlanta at 8 o'clock in the morning. I totally think we're going to do the fastest, most serious driving you ever done in your life. just to get to that bitch by midnight like you gotta do the best driving you ever done in your life you still gotta not get pulled over just to get to that hole by midnight

so how did you come about like how did y how did you like all right this will be us this is us like you said can't nobody come in after this is he no ujk was several people um the ujk was a group before me Chad and his dude named mitch queen were the original uh iteration of u gk

and then me and two other dudes came in and then we became a four man group and then the other two dudes decided to go play football and do other stuff and we was left as a two-man group but we still had the four-man group name and so when we brought the demo the big-time reggae in the flea market in Houston

and we brought him to tell me something good and he was like, I love this record I think this is a good record what's the name of the group and we had no other name so went back to UGK man that's love man what's your favorite old school

car yeah That's a good question. I had an 83 Park Avenue, 84 Park Avenue, and my stepdaddy gave me. That was a good dependable car. But I always wanted a deuce in a quarter. But just because it was called the deuce of the quarter. But, you know, I come up in the era where I come up in the area with the Toyota trucks.

You like the fucking Toyota trucks? No, no, from the era where they were slab trucks, I don't know how they did everybody. Where Cory laughed. Corrie remember that era. Cory was a little bitty boy back then. But that's when black people could typically, the only people that drop cars like that now are typically Latinos or Asians.

But that's when black people, you know, was dropping the toy. Not no big old toy or just a little bit and mini truck, man. We used to have a yacht car. In Port Arthur, we used to have this crew called the Yota Pison. And they had full Toyota and they would drive through the hood and they'd get to the little intersection of your corner. Like I lived off Fifth Avenue and 15th Street.

Stephen Jackson to play basketball and all that. He lived on, he lived on between fourth and fifth. I lived between fifth and six. And then they would come through and they get to that little stop sign and then they're all turned down with a turn and go. And that's when they used to have them. Niggas would make speakerboxes and wood

wood. But they would make them at school though. Yeah. He used to have a wood shop class. And once niggas figured their type of shit out, but that was a whole hustle in itself. You had high school niggas making speaker boxes for grown people back then. We used to take, man, I mean, I used to take my mama, like, home stereo system, right, out of the house, put them in my home boy car, connected, connected through the apps, you know what I'm saying, through the Y, because everything used to have the

wives that were going to back and be playing my mama speakers in the car because he had those big men. I'm talking about, hey, man, that was a house speaker. House speakers, that was done. House speaker was lit. I had some house speakers in my car. I had to say, um, um, um, I had Big Daddy Kane is on this platform. You remember how significant. We are in the same game self-destruction was for our year. And with the current state of violence and things

going on, if we were to put the self-destruction you know, 2024 together, we're like four MC that you think would be vital for that type of movement in this generation. Well, I mean, in order for it to really connect, these things to connect, you would have to have people that the young

people of just generation would respect in that space. You know what I'm saying? I think a killer Mike would be a great person to have, but I also think a meek meal would be a great person to have. I think Freeway would be a great person to have. And we would honestly need like another little baby moment,

you know what I'm saying? Because you need these younger artists that these kids can, you know, look up and respect and see themselves in, you know what I'm saying? Young people have to feel like you understand them, right? You're willing to meet them where they are. That don't mean be childish. That means understand their culture,

understand their frames of reference, understand why kids are wearing hoodies in the summer type of shit. You know what I'm saying? You know, you have nothing to do you know. You have someone who has to have heat strokes. But again, I think, I think, I don't know if it really works because we actually live in an environment right now musically. And this, again, I'm not here to judge nobody.

But we have more people that are active than are inactive. That's never really. been the dynamic in the culture. You'd have a handful of people that were still in the life, but, you know, like Benny the Butcher, you got one foot in and one foot out kind of a thing. But we have people now who are, you know, very prominent artists in the culture who are active outside. You know what I'm saying? Them and they circle, they really still in the element presently, you know, for whatever reason. They still in the element. So I think it's very hard for people who are literally living a life that requires them.

to actively dodge violence from people to start saying stop the violence because that's just not the world perspective that they have. And again, everybody, everybody ain't there. We would love for everybody to be positive and focus and give these good messages, but everybody ain't there. You'd ask 19-year-old me, wet me? Man, fuck what I don't know, a nigga, move around.

I try to hear that shit. And I knew, and I knew more, and I knew more than most niggins my head. But I wasn't trying to speak on no shit like that. I wasn't trying to be active on no shit like that. Then you start having kids and you realize how long life really is and, you know, just people that's going to be living in this world

when you're gone and you start really thinking about am I going to leave this whole better than I found it or did I just take, take, take? You know what I'm saying? So I've lived long enough for the perspective to change for me. You know what I'm saying?

We just got to let young niggas that's active figured out how it's going to go for them. You know, ain't nobody going to stop doing what they want to do, till they're ready. Right. You know what I'm saying? And some people, you know, I know a lot of niggas that's so dope, got away for a long time,

hussle one day too long. How to do it. That's it. You hustle one day too long. I got to ask before you leave, man. He said something about murder. That verse. Was you and Pimp in the studio together, did you record that together?

Yeah. Yeah, I was in this like, what was that like when you seen him rapping? Like, because that was the first time, me personally, that I ever heard somebody rap to where it is three Pimsy verses that for me is murder, a kick dough, and... Oh, a kick dough is my shit. And then the one where you talk about, you know, how versatile he was with, you know, gripping grain, switching lane, selling cocaine out of the can of dame.

Gemma, little Wayne, got a trunk of bang because I'm a hot boy. Like, them three verses are the verses that, to me, if I had to, you know, define pimp to somebody who never heard him before, those would be the three I would play. But murder, I think, is the most profound one. So, like, when y'all recorded that, was that, were y'all in that space? Like, were both of y'all in that space to be able to put something down? Because both of y'all versus are ridiculous.

I would love to sit here and tell you a very deep, profound story. I mean, I want to hit real stories. The reality was, I've only really been, like, drunk about five days in my life because I have a really hot tolerance. That was probably day number two in my life. But I'd actually been really drunk the night before, and I came in. I was fucked up. Now, Skip Holman in the studio where we used to work at.

Corey, did you ever come over, Skip? All right, so again, this is the guy that had pro tools in the beta version. He had probably the most digitally advanced boards you could have. You had an SSL board. It had at least 100-something tracks, right? Beautiful setup, raised off the ground, whatever. So I came in and I went to sleep. I came in, I went to sleep.

Like, they was laying the track out in production-wise. I guess he laid his vocals. I don't know if I was. remember if I was awake or not, but I was sleep under the board. I was fucked up. I came in, I just went to sleep because that was the coldest place, because these big equipment have to have fans to keep them cool.

So where the boy at is typically where it's cool. So I went laid up under that hole and laid it down, right? And so they woke me up and they say, B, it's your time, you know what I'm saying, to rap. And so I got up, I guess I had written the rhyme before. Again, I'm getting old.

I imagine I wrote the rhyme before because I know I didn't wake up and write. I woke up and and went in and I spit it. And what you hear is take two. I had done take one. And they asked me, did I want to punch in? I was like, no, I'm just do it again. Take me back to the top.

And so the murder that you hear is take two. I have no idea, no recollection of what Pimp was doing when he wrote his verse. I don't believe I was awake when he laid his verse. I was barely awake. That's crazy. I was down the way. But here's the thing.

Here's the thing. Murder was not even about. about him. The whole point of murder was me bitching constantly, man, you keep saying I'm the best rapper in the world. I can't show niggas, I'm cold at 73 BPM, bro.

I need some 85, some 88. I need some fast tempo music. And so murder was the one. Murder was the one that was finally fast enough for me to really rap like I wanted to. But it also required him.

It also required him to rap fast, too. Yeah. And come like that on the song. I had no idea really that it was just a rhyme at the time. I did not write this rhyme and lay it and be like,

the game's changed. I went back to sleep. I went back to sleep. And it just eventually became what it was because nobody was really from where we were and what we represented. When I say, I mean the South,

you had niggas that could spit from the South but it was never really the objective to get caught up in that it was really about making sure the niggas understood what you were saying because some of us had very deep and heavy accents and trying to get their neighborhood in what they represent fucked up

we were already good on it so I had been asking a nigga for a rhyme where I could really rap this was the one I went now, felt like I did my thing and then that was it and it wasn't until really because I didn't know if niggas that did It didn't rap would even appreciate it.

And it ended up becoming, for one, like, it was almost like a bat signal to niggas in the South. You know what I'm saying? You ain't got to spend your time being Southern, proving you Southern. We Southern. Ain't nowhere around it. Prove to them niggas, you could do anything them niggas do. Not full-time.

You don't have to. But if I wanted to, I could do anything you doing. Very few people can say the same. about how we move. There's a few people who can who are very comfortable doing more southern-based-type music just as comfortable as they are doing things that are more to their reach.

But it's not for everybody. You know what I'm saying? There's a lot of people. But now, in hip-hop, now, you almost have to incorporate certain aspects to southern lifestyle and culture to even for it to even resonate. See, we woke up one day and realized

that if it's a numbers game, we win. Hell yeah. This is all about numbers. We got the most people. West Coast is California, Las Vegas, Seattle, you know what I'm saying, Oregon, maybe, I guess, some of that shit, right? That's technically, as far as we look on the West Coast as far as hip-hop. The East Coast is New York, New Jersey, Connecticut, Philadelphia, they came claim D.C. You know what I'm saying?

The South. How many of these motherfuckers you want? Texas, Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Florida, North Carolina, South Carolina, Virginia, West Virginia. Tennessee. You know what I'm saying? Kentucky. We didn't even got to these, maybe it's like a Missouri, right, that y'all ain't east coast. Y'all show more like that, you know, and they identify.

The Midwest identifies with the South because there are nothing like the East Coast and nothing like the West Coast. So just based on identity in prison, that's why Washington, D.C., gravitates to the South because you're nothing like the East Coast. You don't have to move that fast. You don't have to talk that fast. So when Texas, they're going to lose that, New Zealand, Stop, niggas come up, make all the sense in the world. It's very easy for us to communicate to each other. Even if it is different slang.

You know what I'm saying? We get each other. We kind of move the same way. I always laugh when you say you'll hit a bitch in the face with a pie out of the mold. Yeah. The way that nigga just looked at you and nodded. Yeah, that's a fact. So there's a very famous movie scene between Spencer Tracy and Catherine Hepburn.

And I think he puts like a cake or something in our face. but I remember that I'd never seen a man do that until one of me before they were arguing about something and he clapped in the face with a cake I was like that's pretty hard I would love to just

you know I would love to put a if I'm mad like because I don't want to fight you right I feel like putting the cake in your face is just disrespectful enough to not but without constituting

abuse ladies is it would you call the police if you're a man put a cake in your face? Do you, when you can sit in that hands on you? What would you say, like if y'all in the middle of a real bad bitch,

you'll be bad, you're going to call a police. You can't get bad on fights. You're going to call the police, right? Well, it's depending on how delicious you. Now, I'm not telling you, niggins. What type of cake? I'm not telling nobody out of here with no pipe, no pile, no cake in a broad face.

Because I don't know what kind of woman you got. Right. I wouldn't recommend. I'm just trying to read the room. Right. You know, the faces in the room and the women, they didn't really seem pleased by that.

So if y'all having to date a woman that worked behind the seas, up here, they ain't about their cake shit. That is what you think about it. They're taking no cake shit off. They ain't had the type. When he wrote that rhyme, they wasn't wearing the type of eyelashes the ladies are wearing now. That would be very detrimental. They take that cake on your eyes.

Let's take your cake off your face. A lot of new things with these new women. There's a lot of new men. It's a lot different. It's a lot different. I'm glad I don't have to navigate that type of shit. I'm trying to spot on here to sign on the tape. man.

I don't want to sign that. Open space right in. You know, I'm gonna get low. That's what's wrong. Some of these niggas, you know, y'all be having some middle-aged niggas in there. They can't get low. Look, man. We got you, we got you some 85 South show shit, too.

And I meant to hit y'all for hats size. I'm gonna have to see y'all some Trillberger shit. Oh, yeah. I got new errors, not. You know what I got to come to the store to get it. Come on, John. We're gonna put some online merch out there, but it's best to, you know, make niggas come in. I want them to come in and get the experience.

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