The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Busta Rhymes - S Extinction Level Event W Dc Young Fly Karlous Miller And Chico Bean | Ep. 258

Episode Date: October 16, 2020

On this special episode, Busta Rhymes comes through the trap to tell us about his new album but first he tells the story of the birth of hip hop in the way only Busta can! https://ele2.bustarhymesuniverse.com/ Karlous, DC and Chico get into some of Busta's most iconic moments in our culture. All the way back to leaders of the new school to his film appearances on films like Higher Learning, the squad breaks it all down. Busta gets into WooHaa! and how he crafts his famous intro adlibs and Busta breaks down his process and he shows love to some of his favorite rappers that are female like - Rah Digga, Rapsody, and Lauryn Hill. Spliff Starr is also in the building and Busta shares the story of their friendship, how it came to be and what's been keeping it going. Busta's style of rapping is unique and tells the story of his rap battle with Jay-z who was also rapping fast at the time. Busta's history lesson goes all the way back to Dancehall culture and he recognizes the influence of Shabba Ranks, Professor Nuts, Ninja Man and others and explains where he found the inspiration for some of his own elements of showmanship. Busta breaks down how Chris Lighty started Violator records and how many of the record labels we've come to know were birthed. Plus, Busta shares the stories of making music and music videos with the queens, Mariah Carey and Janet Jackson. This is the coldest podcast! www.85southshow.com Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm scared of them, I'm scared. Thank you, Ken. Yeah, we just got this refrigerator off Lailway. That's the most fucking dope shit. O.G, how long you've been out here? I was not expecting you to open that motherfucker. I didn't even know that was a fringe, nigga.

Yeah, we... That's like some fly furniture shit with all this shit on top of it. Yeah, yeah, that's like we had to figure it. That was some shit. I'm gonna hit since some Thursday. Thursday. Yeah. Thurgin.

Got what? You fun with Bousie? Well, I love that nigga. I got something for ya. That's my motherfucking dude right there. I got something for you. What you got for you? Mm, mm, mm, mm, I got some for you.

What? Boosa already got in verse home. Oh, let's work. Yeah, sir, skein. I'm been waiting. You're on. I've seen your little video looking on some sex and some sex. I ain't doing shit with these niggie in your sound,

Good other than one fuck. Y'all got it on camera? Oh, you fuck, niggins. They'll be talking all that here comedian shit. This old g, nigga, knickle, knickle. Nickle stizzam, I got the stamp. B, p'paw, there it is. You bare had the stamp.

Oh, no, no, niggie be playing with me on a nobit, daw. Yeah. I got a shot call, and he's gonna tell, y'all. Yeah. Ain't a motherfucker. fucking gang, my name. I'm gonna stay up in my lane, my name.

I ain't gonna change a damn thing, my name. I'm gonna keep on going. I'm gonna keep flooring. Wooop, whooop. Oh shit, there they go. Put your seatbelt on, niggas, start acting right with the police come. This nigga all way to tripping, man.

He, niggas, come on. We got an OG in here, my nigga. Why we ain't getting no speakers? We got a legend. Oh, look. You scrape. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, we don't want to be bringing too much nice shit in here.

No, it ain't nice shit. This shit made in 1998. What? Make sure the phone cut out. My little nephew put to be calling me in a minute. Y'all. Y'all. Y'all.

Yeah. We in there. What we sound like? Yeah. Everybody good. One, two. One, two. We good, cat. You get that? Check my mic one time for the get back.

Uh-oh. Can you hear that? Huh? My nigger. You're gonna rent that shit back. My nigger. Uh-huh. Gonna check that, right, for the get-knit.

For the get back. Yeah. Did you hear that? What? Can you hear that? Yeah. For the get back. Get back.

Feel that. Get that. Get that. Let me check my mic. Hello. Can you hear me? Let me put my voice up. Get it dearly.

Yeah. Got a couple of niggis sitting near me. Yeah. And we tried. Do a year league. Yeah, y'all. Roll up another one. Still smoke the roast cause you know I got another one.

Y. I'm gonna have to smoke the other one. Y'all. Bustle around got another son. I came through his motherfucker chilling. Y'all. Only had one chain on. I thought he was gonna'em motherfucker dead a scene last time.

Daddy had a chain on. But like, no. This the new shit. New shit. I'mma chill because you know I ain't gonna do shit. New shit, y'all. Get my black. Get my blue shit.

We'd be chilling on some crew shit. Ooh. That's the new shit That's the new shit New shit We gonna get them Bought a whole bunch of New York niggas with them Yeah

They're in here No fear That's this year D.C. Can you hear me? A cat Did you get that? Ooh

Get that. Where did get back? Click, clank When I split that Fuck around I see a bitch Then I get that Ooh A pussy's thing

Get back Oh, yeah, man. Oh, you should have kept your mask on. You want to eat the cushion. But the shit smell like boole. Oh. So I put my mask back up. I said, you know what?

You know what you let on. I thought you was going to say, I put my mask back up. Uh-uh. But I'm a still fuck. Oh. I did anyway. Hey, man. Y'all ain't going to believe this shit.

believe this shit. What we're talking about? Hey man, welcome back to the 85 South Show. First and foremost, first and foremost, you will never believe who in the trap with us today. Who in the trap, though? What?

Mr. Put your hands where my eyes can see? Uh, uh. Break your neck. Huh? Keep talking. Keep talking! That! Who?

That's the only nigga that can do this in a song. Right. The most diabolical, nigger. Toad your shit. Buster rind. Oh, we got the legend of the fouser! Hold up, before we get started, I got to do it. I got to do it.

Hold on, hold, hold, hold, hold on, hold on, go, go, go, go to go. Anyway, I got to go away, I got to spit it. Oh, no, that's, listen, you got to do it, because I'm feeling like I'm running and I'm going to like, I'm going to like, I got to get away, get away, but I know that I don't, and I won't ever stop, because you know I don't, and I won't ever stop, because you know, I got to win. every day, day. Say they really want to pop me. Just know that you can never flop me. Better know that I can be a little flop me. You ain't never gonna stop me.

Every time I'm coming, I gotta sit it, then I gotta go and then I gotta get it, then I gotta blowin, and I gotta show that any little thing and they can be doing, because it doesn't matter because I'm gonna do a lot of things to make it clear to a couple of niggas that I always want and they gotta get it again and again and again and again. And I'm doing the deaf and now moving to the style of nigger

and everybody know my style of niggas when they come to doing this and I'm banging on my chest and I'm banging the east and I'm banging the west. I'm gonna do you more and I would never give you last year You really want to know what's next. See the way we're on it, we all have been a race, and you know we gotta do it, take a door another pace, so we're struggling

in the husband and sitting in and again you know we gotta do it, take a tour, another place, gotta taste it, and I gotta grab it, and I gotta cut all through this traffic, just the beat at the top of the throne, better know I gotta have it. Yes!

You know, fucking talk about it, no, no, no, no, no, no, you killed that shit. You got this, that shit in here, that nigga really started the lyrics. You know how much pussy I got, cause I can do that, I used to do that shit, true story,

I used to do that shit in the club, North Carolina called Lotus. They used to cut the motherfucker and beat off and just let me wrap that shit and I will wrap it every time I was in the club. And, nigga. What? Legender. You studied the fuck out of the lyrics.

No, you know, that's what I do. Now, I'm autistic when to come to that type of shit. Naga. O.G. You're a fool. You know, you killed that. Oh, nigga. I'm gonna tell you the moment.

Oh, no. Thank you. This is the moment where I knew I had to know this nigga in real life. I was watching higher learning and they had just beat the white dude something. And that nigg said, yo, nigger, step mom. I'm gonna be filling me for like the next three birthday.

This type of nigga I need to know in real life. What? Got the motherfuckin' OG in this, man. Thank you so much for, man, Grayson and the trap with your presence. This is an honor, man. Like, you are legend. You wanted the greatest to ever touch a microphone, man.

Like, it's an honor to have you in here that we didn't even get to the status that you will come sit down with niggas like us, man. Thank you, bro. Thank you. I said leaders of the new school. Thank y'all, man. Charlie Brown and Dinko D.

The motherfucker, I'm right. It's interesting that you acknowledge my bros, man, where it all started from with me, because I believe yesterday was the 27 year anniversary of the second in the last Leaders album. Wow. I'm 28.

You're 28, bro? I'm 28. That's crazy than a motherfucker. I'm one year old, my name. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's how long you been going on myself.

That's crazy. That's how long you did. fucking legend. Thank you, my nigga. Thank you, bro. Your shit crazy. I appreciate y'all, man. Man, what keep you motivated to still do it after all this time, man, and all the accolades and the things you've accomplished? What keep you still motivated to make this music? I mean, I think we can all agree just being niggas in their right mindset. Right. You come from canned food, maybe you taste of steak, you ain't want to go back to can't

unless you choose to. Ever. I don't want to eat bologna and cheese sandwiches because I don't want to eat bologna and cheese sandwiches because I I ain't got no choice but to eat the motherfucker. I want to eat it because I just still love the motherfucker. Right. And in my beautiful-ass million-dollar home, I could still go and get me the potato bread slices, some mayonnaise, some motherfucking beef bologna and some American cheese and slapped shit together and sit in front of a motherfucking cartoon network

and watch some shit that I grew up on, like Tom and Jerry, nigga. What you mean? Right. I think we all had same dude at heart. The thing that just keeps the torch lit, though, is the fact that when you taste that other, side of the success that come with the

sacrifice and the hard work that you put into the shit and besides all of that you just genuinely loving this shit and I was putting them records out with leaders I was still living them on mom's crib you know what I'm saying so you know having an incredible

moms like mine's too she signed my deal when I was 17 I wasn't old enough to sign my deal so you know moms got to get the big salute because she could have been on an angry day with a nigger the day that contract was on the table and said nigga fuck your contract you're gonna take your ass to bed because you still live in this house and you acting like you ain't got no

managing here on this particular day talking back to me about some shit because i ain't let you hang out at that party last night past your little two in the morning curfew which was the time that i had to bring my ass home at that time and she could have just been on some shit and y'all would probably never heard of busting rhymes other because maybe that opportunity wouldn't have came around for and i'm glad that shit because who else gonna say shit And I'm gonna swing like the ass on a black chick. This nigga here. Yeah.

Yo, he knows. Oh, we know it. He knows. Listen, man. Like, and I tell you, Lowe's, like, I've always been a B-Rimes fan, but Lowe's put me on to the, you know, it's always the B-Sides that most people don't know and people don't hear. This nigga to put me on some shit, I'm like, mega, because I always said you had the best beats in hip-hop history. Oh, thank you, brother. What?

That one song that he used just as an interlude that should have been the motherfucking single, though. I'm trying to think of the name of it. I think it was just give it to them raw. And you used that as an interlude in like one of them videos. Yeah, I did make a song out of that record. I know, but it wasn't no single. It wasn't no single. It wasn't.

Like, because how I got up on it is I heard the clip. I think it was in a video. It was sitting in the car and you were playing. I was like, what the fuck is that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Found this shit on the album. Big up the mega, who made, who damn? I think, um, Swiss made that.

That beat. Swiss made that beat. Man, you'd be having to be up on shit like before it's the shit. Nah, I love how you dig into the catalog, though, and you know joints. The sketch before, give me some more is some of the funniest shit I ever heard on a rap. I put the nigger on that big cap into a bitch, right? He's trying to highlight the chick and he's like, bitch. Do you know how frivolous I am?

I got a hummer that I only drive to my. my mailbox. And that's all I use it for. The niggins said, I got custom-made condoms made out of other people's dick. That they would never be yours. This is the whole, like, the sketch before, give me some old come on. That's some of the funniest shit. We used to say that shit every day at track practice.

That shit crazy. I'm in another era, but I still love you. You know what I'm saying? So when you was having your bidding, like, you had some of the most best videos when you were videos when, see, niggas, that video don't be creative, no nothing. Right. You was actually bringing your words to life. I think the lyricism, niggins don't give you the respect as a lyricist, hands down.

Nobody's fucking with you. I appreciate that. I love how you come on the song. You'll say some shit ain't got shit to do with it. But you know, you know, at that time, and always for me, like, you know, I think the most, you know, I think the most, you know, think the most important thing when you had the opportunity to get on the collapse especially because a lot of the times those moments happened on the collapse it was just about how do you make it unfair from the first line because there got to be some sort of i don't give a

fuck mentality that's being applied in order for shit like that to even come out your mouth and out your whole face. And for me, I just, I went into these shits having so much fun because I knew the boss that I was going to include that was going to follow that was going to be the shit that you would critique from a serious place. That's why those type of things would happen in the intro. Their minds wasn't in the bars. We're going to step in on some grand entry shit and just shake the room up and say some wild shit. That's how the

intro was on wooha. What the fuck? Y'all, y'all, y'all got to do with anything. You know what I'm saying? That is, I must decide, that is the song of 2020. That's a testament to you as a nigga. Who's going to be like, yo, what are he doing? Word, that's what it was. Who's going to stop him? Who going to stop him?

If that's only to say, y'all, y'all, y'niggers need to be saying. That's my 2020 thing song. Woo-ha, got you all in check. The 2020 got us all in check. I'm telling you. That's what I had to put it in the perspective. The lyrics in the song. I got to bring up some shit that I know a lot of people.

Never even ask you about. When you did. to turn it up song and you put mother one of your yeah i know like rock digger came up with you and under you and studied under you when you heard her fuck that song up like that what did that feel like what song um to turn it up touch it touch it yeah because turn it up was the join over the I'm an old nigger at this point. I just remember the part of the song and that's the name of you know the one.

Touch it. Turn it around. Love it. I'm cutting in it. That's mad. I turn it up. Kick a bitch in the face and put your nigger to thump. Then I kick a whole bunch of niggas out of my house.

Then we went to the trap niggas all in the couch. Then I had another bitch, but I'm kicking her up. I get low, bup. You can't be trusting me, nigg. Yeah. Don't. Don't know what I'm doing it. Yeah.

Don't know I'm putting it. Bring it up! These bitch, they want to burn in their mouth. When they go in their tongue it and they're all in the hell. I mean, I don't have to know the words. I don't feel it. I know what it feel like. I'm getting on now.

Fuck the words. Hell yeah. Well, I dig her. Best, bro. The best. She's one of the, she's probably the best female. female emcee bar for bar to me. Wow.

Heron Rhapsody is my, and Lauren is my favorite three emcees in the female genetic makeup, but I don't like to call them dope as female MCs. I just think they're incredible MCs because I think they fuck dudes up too. I think they violently, not in the literal sense, but when I'm speaking in reference to competition, we're not going in there to give you flowers and, you know, be nice. I'm on a record with you and we could be the best of friends. I don't want no friendship with you until the song is over, motherfucker. We're competing.

Right. So what I'm saying is Rod Digger and Rhapsody and Lauren to me, they pen was dangerous. I think there's a lot of moments where I might have sat down. down and listen to their shit and was directly inspired to start a new song. I would like cut off their shit while I was listening to it, especially if I was listening to it in the studio. Because I like playing other people's shit sometimes just to get a vibe. And if I'm listening to one of their songs in there, they strike the right chord in me. I'm super driven

because I'm so competitive that I will cut their shit off and immediately start a song sometimes you go in the studio you ain't got a vibe you go on there and sit around four fucking hours

five six hours you leave you ain't come up with shit that happens sometimes shit is like the greatest catch you know I mean is that the name

of the movie on the fucking with the niggas that go out there and throw the fucking fish net in the water and see if they catch the crabs the dead

yeah the niggas stupid motherfuck I do it So I'm a fan of that show personally But that's like That's like the perfect metaphor though Brough I would love to see Buster Ryan Watching Deadly as chest

Yo this motherfucker caught the most phenomenal fish You know This shit was like diabolical This motherfucker was huge I think it was a motherfucking tuna or something shit was crazy Yeah But digger

I ain't gonna find It's been time actually in the studio making flip mode album where she would say shit that was so dangerous on a record I would be like I don't know if you should say that right or let's finish the song tomorrow give yourself some time she went that crazy you know what man this studio costs too much you're gonna have to come back during the daytime when I was The money's a little bit low. I'm glad you brought up.

She's going to go that crazy. She still does. Yeah. She still does. By the way, we completed a flip mode 20 year reunion album. Oh, that's dope. That's coming. That's coming next year.

So. Hey, I'm glad you brought up Flipmode squad and I'm glad you brought this legend over here. Come on. We got the official street corner colonel in the motherfucker. Come on, man. Split star, nigga. Hey, man. Yeah, man.

You're a real nigga. You're a real nigga, man. I'm so glad you brought him to because now I don't have to ask you why you didn't. Bro, this nigga, before we even ever heard this nigga say anything was already a legend of me. Like, this nigga was so funny in the dangerous video. Oh, that's so, God, that nigga crazy. Spliff, the reason why me and Spliff was so magical is because Spliff don't give a fuck neither. That's the beautiful thing about the way we was molded in shape.

from a cultural standpoint like we we Caribbean niggas I'm a Jamaican nigger here Trinidadian niggas so the showmanship that we displayed a lot of that shit come from dance all culture and and I don't think people really understand this whole hip-hop shit was birth from Jamaica like Kuherk is a Jamaican nigga you get what I'm saying the whole concept of having big-ass speakers stockpiled on top of each other and playing loud-ass music outside that come from Jamaica. That's dance hall culture. You know what I'm saying?

So Ku-Hirk brought dance-hall culture to the U.S. and gave birth to hip-hop culture. The only thing that changed was the type of music that was played and how it was played. But the concept is the same. So the thing about dance-hall culture

is the critics the audience the way they was raised it was in a way where and in particular Jamaican people are just a proud people like them niggas is outspoken like a motherfucker and if you if you make people

from Jamaica spending their money and come to a concert they fuck with you if they fuck with you they're going to let you know If they don't fuck with you, they're going to let you know in a way that you ain't going to be able to understand, like, appreciate, digest, or accept it. Yeah, I did comedy at Footprints in New York. Wow. It's the whole crowd is legend, yeah. And if they like you, they're just standing there.

They don't, you don't think the shit going terrible, but then they just be like, keep going. You get one of them. All you need is one. It can be from the most random person in the whole room, but there's, You know you're good I think I would have got long I'd be doing my shit whispering so good

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getting busy. Never ha, but again. Again, like I was saying, the reason why me and Spliff works so well is because Spliff come from the same thing. And, you know, when we were saying, shorties and we used to you know we cut school we was going to the hooky parties and we was at the block parties on the block and all of that type of shit you know we was studying the dance whole shit even though we was love and hip hop too that the niggas that we studied was with Chabaranks and Admiral Bailey and Papa Son and Lieutenant Stitchie and lecturer these professor nuts these is dudes that was legends in dance hall culture and and

music and them dudes was the dudes that really taught you if you would sit back and just look at some of them videotapes and and listen to the sound clashes which was like the battles and shit and you would see the clashes that the artists would have at like sting sting was like a festival that they did every year and like ninja man would go against anybody and fucking But the dance, the big clash would happen at the end of like the fourth night. It'd be like four days straight. I'm just dancing.

Of just whaling out 20, 30, 40,000 people out there not going home and just partying. And those clashes would be so detrimental that some of them just led to violence on the stage and they can get his face bus right on stage because the disrespect would be so crazy. but the showmanship the legs kicking all over the place niggas jumping around the fucking place you swinging your fucking hand you

all of that shit while dudes in hip hop thought it was cool to just walk around with your chain on and you just hold your Johnson and you think you're too cool and really do some shit that seem a little outside of the norm

me and Spliff would look at niggas and just laugh because we knew we was going to come up there mop the floor with their ass because when we get up there we're going to do all of this extraterrestrial shit with all this other dynamite stick energy and fuck makers up

and that's what was the cheat code all the time so you know I'm for the first time really like getting into like the specifics of where the ingredients came from for me and Spliff like

like a testament to what he was saying How's he felt like Spliff was a legend before Spliff said shit. It was. All right, cool. So it was the same way in East Flatbush, Brooklyn. So when Spliff was mad small, Spliff was always like a loose cannon, a loose screw up top.

I can tell that. I can see the video. Yeah, Spliff, Spliff was crazy, but I ain't just talking about on an entertainment and a showmanship side. Spliff was also a crazy motherfucker on some street shit. So I felt like the talent that he was showing. was showing just organically like Spliff one time got into a motorcycle accident and he split his shin bone down this way yep yep that that one leg shit that you see niggas doing to this day like the pop smoke yeah but I ain't

gonna say he created it because it's a dance hole like when they used to call it like skankin right and and and and the old rosters would do this one foot shit But Spliff now, he turned it into a big thing on the hip hop side, because in the funny shit, this is how, all right, so Spliff, he's swerving in the street on a fucking Spree moped. Right? That's when the Spreeze was the shit. And the nigga doing this and doing this. And the nigga curved down too far, tried to go around a double parked car, and he ain't clear the car. Full speed.

And you slap in front of the, in the back of the double part car. nigga flip by six foot seven foot in the sky land the way he landed the shin bone split down this way instead of crossway right so you look into this this nigga leg got a bone sticking out this way so spliff he's he on the street spliff the one crying from the niggas ambulance come he ain't crying in front of no niggas fuck you talking about ambulance come put spliff in the back of the ambulance when the door closed you hear Spliff screaming as the ambulance. So a couple days later, you know,

Spliff come out, he got the cash on, big block party outside on the block. And scratch the tour out with DJ. He was a super young nigga on the block, but was nice with the fast shit and tried to learn all the jazzy Jeff transforms. Jeff transforming and shit and all of that and learned all of that so he was down with a crew called T&T crush and the niggas had the block lock but I had the neighborhood locked his system was super stupid so they was getting booked to do all the local shit and Spliff with his showmanship he's like fuck my broke leg I'm

still pull up in the middle of these niggins desk trying to do a little dance shit and then they go in the crutches and the niggas just start doing the one foot shit with the fucking ass and niggas is around him in a circle and he body in this shit with the way he's spinning around on niggas with the crutches on and the cash on and he carrying on and i seen this shit and i like this niggas incredible at the time i'm back and forth between brooklyn and long island right i'm fucking with leaders and um when leaders broke up i always was like i'm a need because i was so used to the group the group support system on stage yeah i was like all right i'm gonna do this solo shit but um

i'm gonna need to figure this out and well i'm gonna get that's down to fuck with me and just follow my lead because i know what i want to do spliff at the time was still in the street it's even before i was able to buy my own v i come to brooklyn split all the time he was getting his money in the street and we're still getting into trouble in the street and then out of what type of shit and I shot a couple times but I was seeing this talent and I was just like I hope that I could get or garnish enough success to save this man life because I knew bro bro since I was seven and now I'm in a position where I got a deal and this might be the only way to save bro he was willing to listen though

that one more time that nigga was willing to listen you know what I'm saying that's that was the most important part and he was listening at the time when he was already getting his own money because he was giving me rides to the studio right you know what I'm saying like when I needed to get to the stool he was my whip you know what I'm saying one time we going to the studio and they had the gray 325 or the blue one was it the blue one the blue through all right so we ride it to the stool You didn't do a shit. BOM! We get into a wild car accident.

Nigger left the shit right there. We break out. The next day, the nigga pulled up in a gray one. Fuck you talking about. You need a ride to the studio today, nigga. Hell no. Nicky, not at the last night. I'm sure.

I'm good. I'm hoping in. You ain't catch no training, no. You're not getting in that car. The rats will bite you. But that's my brother on a whole other level when it comes to just, and he's my elder. He's a year older than me. But it's a beautiful thing when, you know, motherfuckers could respect each other enough to still

be able to say, all right, you know what, bus, if this was the street shit, you would have to listen to me. Right. But this music shit, I'm going to listen to you. You ain't always got to be a drive. You know what I mean? Sometimes you sit in the passenger seat and let the person who know how to drive this road, drive, right? Real shit.

You know what I mean? Like, you say you saw that in him and was able to recognize his talent. When did you recognize it in yourself? Like, when did you write that rhyme that let you know I'm nice? I didn't realize that I was dope. Because I, um, I just always believed that I was going to be the dopest period. That was just the determination and a divine that I was claimed. that I was claiming. But I knew what I wanted to do when I was around, I say about

seven, eight years old, I was being babysitted by a Panamanian woman by the name of Aunt Mitzi. She had a son named Alfonso. My mom's was working nights. And Alfonso used to do graffiti like how you see the shit in the wild style movie this nigger would lead a crib like two in a morning and go bomb subways like for real and he would create his his his pieces of art that he was going to spray paint on the subway in this little black book and the nigger used to make these motherfucking you know the markers that got the thick-ass tip on him and great Yeah, but he was homemaking them shits with shoe polish bottles

and chalkboard eraser. So like, you know the chalkboard eraser from elementary school they were like felt strips that was together. The nigger would rip one of the felt strips off and the nigger would bend it and he would stick the shit inside

the shoe polish. He would empty some of the shoe polish, stick it in the shoe polish, put the top back on, screw it down, shake it up, the shoe polish became the ink to the marker. This nigga was a genius. That's a genius. The nigga go to the subway

and was bombing the subways with the marker and the tip of the marker would be like this thick. So like the thick of the tip, the ill of the fucking tag was that you put up. Then the nigger would bring his bag of spray paint cans. The nigger had his mask on like it was COVID back then because you know the spray. You fuck you up, right. And these niggas would be out there, him in like two of a dudes.

They were going like a little crew and these niggas would bomb subways and just put them on some incredible shit up. incredible shit up. But at two in the morning when he would leave, I was too young to go with him. I understood exactly what he was doing. I was in tune with all types of shit. But they had an old-school underground hip-hop station. I ain't going to front. I wasn't like seven or eight. I would say I was like nine or ten. This underground hip-hop station, W.HBI 105.9. Red Alert, the Supreme Team who made Buffalo Gals. Two Buffalo Gals go around the outside.

The niggas, the guards was called the Supreme Team who made that song. When Malcolm McLaren, who was an artist from Europe, became a classic in hip-hop. They had a time slot on this underground radio station. Africa Islam was a part of the Zulu Nation under Africa Bambata. the awesome tool teddy ted and special k so what they would do was they would get on the radio from like two in the morning or five in the morning a lot of niggas wasn't in tune with that station all the time they was getting on these niggins used to play the live battles from some of the founders and the pioneers and the architects of this rap shit like kumo d with basil battle

busy d that legendary battle you know about that battle sir. Cold Crush brothers, which is who leaders model a whole shit behind against the foursome Ds who ended up putting records out commercially as a singing group, but them niggas was MC's first. So they would play these live battles on the radio that was happening in Harlem World and these different underground clubs throughout the city, and we was making pause tapes so you know when the radio personality talk depending on which one of them time slot it was that they were spinning you were caught in these battles and shit and when they talked you pause the tape you rewind it a little

bit to right where they start talking you wait till they finish and then you unpause the tape to keep recording so it seemed like you was actually at the fucking battle and you ain't get it off the radio I used to go to school with them tapes and front the niggas my little young ass snuck up in the club I got the live Kumo D&B battle you bitch ass nigger yeah how about this you want a copy nigga five dollars and I was hustling these these these these incredibly legendary legendary hip-hop moments while I was just staying up waiting for Alfonso to come home to tell me what the story was when he went to do the the bombing of the subways

because it was nice this nigga would come back with the endless stories of about police running down on them niggas because obviously you vandalizing the subway. And these niggins would come back to the crib and just had these stories and sometimes his homies would come with them. And these niggins are sit there and they're talking these shit

and I'm sitting there as a little nigger and I'm listening to these niggas and I just was like, yo, this is really hip hop in my face. You know what I'm saying? And I'm listening to the battles and I'm like, I want to rap. I'm looking at this nigger

taking pictures of the fucking graffiti pieces when they was finished and how ill they look. I'm like, I want to do graffiti. I'm listening to the way the niggas was DJing and cutting shit up on them underground stations. I wanted to DJ. I wanted to break dance. I wanted to pop. I learned how to do every fucking thing in hip hop. I just fell in love with it.

At that point, I knew I was going to be one of the nicest niggas at one of these shits. At something. At one of these elements in the culture, I'm going to be the nicest. this nigga at it because I just loved it too much. The breakdance and shit, I wasn't fucking filling the bruises and the scars. You can't do this one right here. Breakdance to have a lot. You got to do the next move.

You're a rap by that one. You're like, boss, you, man. Hey, man. You got to find out. You got to find out. I'm about to go. I'm about to ask about another one of my favorite song. Yeah.

I'm about to ask about another one of my favorite song. Get on life with Rick James. Oh, nah. That record is legendary. Shout to Green Lantern on the production. You're a great storyteller, by the way. Thank you, King. Thank you.

I get this. I get this. I can listen to this nigga, say. Talk, all that. You put two motherfucking big-ass eggs in that shit. You can do my documentary. Morgan Freeman boys, you narrate my life. He's doing my life story.

Your bitch, this nigga was born, right? Holy shit ever be born. No C-section. Fagal. Straight out to push it. No C-section. The way it opened up was so magnanimous. It was crazy to see.

He didn't tear up the push it. He didn't tap the push it though. Chico did. I know. I think this is crazy. Feet first. I ain't even going to cap, though. Like my favorite video of all time, you and Janet Jackson.

Favorite. Thank you, bro. Favorite. Go back to the Rick James shit. Go back to the Rick James shit. That's got to be next. Okay, but he got to talk about the janet. Like the nigger closest thing to Jackson.

I just want to know if she's what she smelled. Like, I don't know that mold. Is it real? This is it fucking. Is that mold real? I see it on the other side one time. Buckey like, I wasn't looking at that. He wasn't looking at the mold.

I would look at something else. He's some fucking crazy. What? My favorite. You. All right. So, with James first. DC, you crazy than a motherfucker.

Green Lantern sent me the beat. I'm on Aftermath, and I'm probably like two years into working on this album, The Big Bang. And when I heard the record, I ain't know what the fuck to do with myself. I just thought it was one of the greatest gifts to be bestowed on me as a blessing. Because the beat was the perfect marriage with. the vocals and you know when you hit original it's a whole other bounce

tempo-wise and time-and-wise so I gotta give it up all the way to Greenland the way he married the new bounce which is a double-time slow-down version of what the original upbeat tempo was on the joint which allowed me to do my little

speed rap skiddle on the shit the right way but on some cool shit but I knew what I felt when I heard it it was instinctual shit wasn't even no thought I immediately got to the joint because I wanted to make sure there wasn't no room for possibility or confusion nigga you're not giving this record to nobody else so let me let me let you hear this shit with me already done the song done I'm on it it's mine off the market my nigga when

Dre heard the motherfucker yeah it was it was nothing else to discuss Dre said give me the session so gave the session to Dre and a lot of the additional music and chords and all of that other that's you know the cascade dishwash and like what sparkle was added to the motherfucker mad scientist dr dr dr drs great you know what i'm saying with drae get to it just turns the shit

into some other fucking iMacs movie theater shit so you know when i seen what dray took it to it just was like one of the the highlight moments on the big bang album and i love the shit out the record so had to call my man that could bring that cinnamon shit to life. The director Chris Robinson, the legendary. And which, you know, he also did the Cavarsier video for me.

And he did the, uh, me and Mariah video as well. So all of my moments with Chris Robinson was special, just like all of my moments with hype Williams was unbelievable. And, um, I can't even front. Like the beauty of what's getting ready to happen with my new album and the visuals that I shot for him. I can honestly say proudly that the videos that y'all have known

and grown to love a motherfucker for we took it all the way back to that shit oh that's beautiful you know what I'm saying like it ain't none of that it's too it's too late for me to compromise at this stage in my life like I'm just married to my way right you're way perfect money

and my way it's always worked for me and I ain't trying to fix shit that ain't bro We grew up on all your shit, like, it's moments that are pinpointed in our life with Buster Rhymes songs, my shit like that. And it's like, just know that you appreciated for all your creativity and individual. Thank you. Got to get your flower. We're always fuck with you because we know you ain't going to be sounding like nothing else. Oh, man.

Like I said, you're going to give us those moments that, you know, jump out and kick you in your ass. That's great. So what made you knew, like, you was a, like, sad, rock, Like, you don't change your shit. You just adjust to the beat. And what made me? And they can, like, who do you to go, my nigger? You don't rap like NEP.

You rap like Buster and Buster and you're busing. Thank you. So what made you knew, like, I can't rap that slow, man. Y'all, that shit, I can't do it. Well, to be honest with you, going back to the dance hall culture, like I was telling you, there's a two artists that I first ever seen due to a million words in one session. in like two seconds right this one artist named Papa San and this other

artist named Lieutenant Stitchy them two dudes was so fucking crazy I think back in 86 they did a sting which again is that festival the fourth day yeah they did the fourth day and 86 is a clash against each our battle against each other and And it's different then than it is now, because now niggas get up there and they get so flagrantly disrespectful. Niggas is getting their head bust on stage. But them dudes, they would actually rehearse their battles. You know what I'm saying? Like they would do shit.

One motherfucker do a speed rap, the next motherfucker do a speed rap, then they'll come in together and have a verse together that they say in the same shit, line for line, word for word, just to see who's going to kill them. keep up with each other or who are gonna fuck up and get a word off and mess up from the shit in front of 20 30,000 40,000 so it was a collective effort even though they was battling and displayed skill-sitting how sharp one motherfucker was over the other but I saw that shit one day on one of them hooky party days cutting school and I was in such amazement looking at this shit I just wanted to do it too and at that time I wasn't hearing and no rappers do it. No emcees wasn't doing it.

I have to say the only people that was fucking with it on some rap shit was the originators. And the originators was the crew that Hove was down with

after Jazz O. You know what I'm saying? When they did the Hawaiian Sophie joint, they was on their speed rap shit. Daz effects too. DDoz effects is way after that.

J.C. was on his speed rap shit too? J.Z was on a speed rap shit too? He was on a speed rap shit, too. He was on a speed rap shit shit. He started out with that. He rapped fast on what song is that Hawaiian song? Can I get a Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he rap.

Yeah, but Hove was on that shit really early. Like he was on it before Nakers was actually commercially putting records out just from the crew he came from. And he was making records with them. I don't think he was actually one of the originators. He was just, they all fucked

with each other just being Brooklyn. And Hove was always kind of moving on his own shit, but you know at the time again my first influence was lieutenant stitchy papa son and then me and hove ended up going to school together and biggie and hove was on that shit with the originators

in the process of me trying to get my shit together with it me and hove ended up having a battle yeah I heard about this legendary yeah you guys you got a great down with that wait wait whoa gee no I thought we about Jenny Jackson, but since you brought it up. I want to talk about Janet, but I want to know who's lost. But, like, like, like, like, I'm, I'm going to lead up to that because ultimately Hove got the best of the battle in that moment because I was, I was just starting to figure

out how to master my fascination with the speedbap. He was already on it. When? Yeah, he was already putting shit out, doing it at an incredible level of skill set. and was displaying that shit like he was just water spilling all over the place just taking shape and form

and however way he felt like it because he had already been on his shit with it you know what I'm saying me now at that point with my competitive as you know I always wanted to have my rematch you know what I'm saying

it didn't happen which was fine because um you're gonna hit I ended up I ended up getting getting my skill set developed to the point where I don't think nobody want to fuck with it now and I don't think nobody wanted to fuck with it for a long time I mean it's it's interesting though because there's a lot of incredible speed rap in

MCs twist the only two I feel like they can fuck with you I'm gonna be honest though tech nine a dangerous small fucker too now I'm probably like the godfather that's oh gee I thought witch I don't think I mean you I mean, you know, you gotta, you gotta go and do your homework, play, boy. Uh-oh, oh-oh, tell me some, tell me some, you know. I know take nine, too, though, tell me some. I was trying to warn you, this ain't. I'm gonna, I'm gonna be honest with you, beloved.

I don't know what record you heard me get on with an emcee and got my ass whoop. Oh no, I ain't say you, you're the goal. Take an L, whatever you want to call it. My ass work, take an L, lose, I don't get, who. who it was with. You get back to me on that after you do that. No, I ain't saying on no record a nigga bothered you. But you said that?

What you just said about this? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, I didn't take anything on. Every record you got on, you were to go. No, King, but you were just saying. I said a nigga name Tech Nine. Okay, yeah. When he comes to rapping real fans, he might get you.

Okay, see. That's it. And I understood you perfectly. More definitely. Tech Nine is my brother. No doubt. There was absolutely not too many that could fuck with him. But I think if you speak to Tech Nine directly about what you just said, rightfully so, he's supposed to believe that he's the nicest.

On the records that we've got on together, though. I ain't never heard now. Okay, see, that's what I'm getting ready to tell you. You might need to go visit Worldwide Chopper. Damn. You might need to go and listen to that record. That sounds like a gangstass amusement park. Worldwide chopper.

It's worldwide chopper. You got to ride the AK, make it that's a bad. You got to excuse me, O.G. I grew up listening to gospel. No, I don't want to murder. I got a question. I'm going to have to music.

All that. Yeah, she's going crazy. Speaking on that, like, speaking on rapping with other people, some of my favorite albums that she was on that a lot of people might not know it was them violate an album.

Oh, absolutely. Them violator albums. That's the piece of Chris Liding. Yes, sir. We love you. We miss you. But it was so many emcees. You literally were the logo for that Violator. Oh, man. Thank you.

Like, it was so many emcees on them Violator albums. Like, what type of motivation that they give you to be amongst all of them great emcees like that? Because, you know, you had L, L.U. I mean, it was crazy. So when you went in the studio and heard them verses from all of them guys, like, how did that motivate you to push yourself to become a better MC? Before the Violator albums, I was fans in the

dudes that ended up coming a violator. L.L. is the reason I wrote my first rhyme. L.L. My very first rhyme I wrote, I was 12. The name of that shit was called Pulse Rate. L.L. made me write my rhyme. That shit had all type of big fucking words because that's the way he used to rhyme. Back then, it was cool to sound like a hard slant nigger.

And being intelligent was a cool fucking thing. Yeah, because his raps was flawed. You know, then else, and the niggas ain't cursing in their records. They was busting your ass and wasn't even cursing on these shit. I, lemonade parks cut him up in chunks. You know what I'm saying? So neatly. Fucking you up and wasn't even cursing.

So it was like some fly shit to me and, you know, it was everything. It was the whole embodiment. He was hip-hop when you just looked at the motherfucker. No rap I can rap. The can go. I can, I take a muscle bound man and put his face in the sand. Like, yeah, nigga, that shit. You know what I'm saying?

And that shit talk that he had, it just, I believed everything he said. You know what I'm saying? Like, them niggas made you believe it. So it was just me watching this shit and just being a dude that took all of their pictures from the Word Up magazines and the Blackbeak magazines. And I was just hanging on my favorite niggas on my wall where I came and Slick Rick and LL and Chuck D and Public Enemy. All the niggas was on my wall, run DMC, fat boys.

Every one of them was on my wall. I wake up and I'll just be in my room looking at these niggas every day, go to see Brown crib from leaders in the new school. His room was the same way. And we'd be in them niggas, we'd be in Brown room when we was writing the leader songs. Most of the leader songs we wrote

was in Charlie Brown room in his crib because his room just had every nigga you wanted to be like on the wall. So you just look at these niggas, a hip-hop mural and museum a niggas. So being a fan of them before it made it even more incredible when we all ended up on the same team and the same clique. Because now we like the fucking Avengers, niggins. Violator was the Avengers in hip-hop. And it wasn't on click.

Whether it was a group of emcees that were signed to a label like Rockefeller or, Rough Rider, Defro, there wasn't no management company like Valleator, neither. And it was just something else going on because Vali to started, it was given birth to after Rush Management ended. Chris Lydie was a management rep at Rush Management. So under Leor Cohen and Russell Simmons When they had Rush Management and Def Jam

at the same time they was managing A lot of the shit they had signed a Def Jam We ain't gonna get into that No Because you know at this point of the entertainment world We know what that is Right right right right It's not what we're doing right

It was okay it was fine It was they mastered They had shit so So fucking red carpet rolled out for each a nigger that was lined up with him that you wasn't even missing Brad if shit was conflicts or whatever

because it was like just the money was just so stupid but the point that I'm trying to make is they dismantled rush management and I think Leol just came in one day and told Chris Lattie and all the other management reps y'all could pick from the litter take whatever your favorite acts are

and go start your own shit, do what y'all want so Chris took leaders, tribe Dayla, Jungle Brothers, started Violator. Dayla left, Tribe left, Jungle Brothers left. Leaders broke up. I stayed with Chris. So he was all that I knew.

So it wasn't like I even was comfortable enough gambling, fucking with somebody else. I ain't know nobody else like that. And I wasn't comfortable with nobody else like that. Besides Chuck D and Hank Shockley, that's who gave birth to me. I got my name, Buster Rhyms from them neggis, and leaders of the new school came from Chuck. Chuck gave me my name, Chuck gave leaders our name, but he wasn't trying to manage nobody. So I still needed Chris.

Now I was the only violated artist. Wooha come out, golden four weeks, platinum in eight weeks. The coming first album come out in 96. Goal in six weeks. Platinum in two months. Niggas is looking at this shit after everybody was questioning whether we're not.

And then at this point the whole question was you know, all this nigga Bustin'Rombs be doing on record just screaming and with this rattle around the dungeon dragon shit all the motherfucking time. Do we want to hear a whole album and this nigga doing that?

Nah, that nigga had a whole bunch of shit album, damn tell you rap. But this is before the album came. That's how niggas was talking. Right, right. So when the album came and we was able to get it right, and the success came with it and shit started sticking against the wall and the numbers was on the scoring board, niggas respected it in a whole other way.

That's when the attraction and the appeal of Bale decided to look sexier and a whole other dynamic the artists. Niggas was like, oh, we see our niggas. We might need to pull up. Right. That was you who started that Dungeons, Jag and shit. Who didn't know? The younger generation of hip-hop.

Nah, I couldn't agree with that. You know, that shit is 29 years ago. But that's what I'm saying. It's like a lot of people, the younger generation heard it first when Nicky Minaj said it on the verse. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that brought it back to be like,

what, you didn't know where that came from? Right. So that was, that was... Nah, and I appreciated her for doing that. You know what I'm saying? I really... She'd a go, too. I appreciated that record,

and I actually got on the remix of that. record. It never officially became a remix, but I sent her the verse and she fucked with it and she actually brought me out at the Hammerstein Ballroom in New York one time to do that verse live at a show that she had one time. And I got very, very fucking out of control on that record. I was in love with that fucking record, so I blacked on that shit. One of my particular favorite verses. But again, being that violator and then seeing the success that I was able to acquire with Chris being at the head of the helm and then Mona Scott came in like right around my second solo album when

disaster strikes would put your hands and all of that shit came and it was Mona and Chris loving hip-hop yeah Mona Mona ran violator with Chris the The huge shit that Mona contributed to Violator was she wasn't only making sure that this music shit was moving and shaking the right way with Chris. She brought the whole component of the branding and the movie shit with me. Like the Mountain Dew shit that I did back then, Mona broke it that. Higher learning and all of our movies I started fucking with. Halloween. Mona was bringing all of that.

She was making me go to the reading. She was lining me up with the casting agency, the agencies that was bringing in my opportunities to the table. That was Mona. You know what I'm saying? Chris was making sure that the renegotiations for the record deals was in several, several motherfucking M's. And the publishing deals was disrespectful M's too.

I'm trying to get some disrespectful. I'm sorry to get disrespectful. Shut up. You bitch ass, niggas, nigger. Right. All this is respectful money. We got to get some dishes nasty. Y'all, you know, niggas get nasty.

What the fuck you, you bitch out. You bum-ass nigger. I'm no bum-ass nigger money. You bum-ass nigger. Right. Can't talk to him, fuck. Look at this. For me.

You bum-ass nigger. To talk to you, nickers, crazy. I got a cape and everything. I'm gonna get crazy. He got disrespectful in. I got that what you about to do money. Right. What's after this?

Fuck that. Yeah, that management company, 22 years, I never looked to fuck with another manager. And the only reason that I have a new manager now, which I got a big up incredibly, the legendary Steve Rivkin who founded Loud Records, that's my manager, and the legendary A Blitz, who used to manage DOS effects. is my co-manager. So I got some real iconic hip-hop motherfuckers on my team that has been a part of my growth

for the entire journey. And if Chris didn't die, I probably would still remember Chris. You know what I'm saying? And once Chris passed the whole violator just

dismantled completely. You know, Chris was an incredible. incredibly significant leader you know I'm saying and that that that was a replaceable leadership quality you know I mean he was the heartbeat he was the the veins he was the whole shit you know I'm saying so it couldn't move it couldn't continue without him which is unfortunate because again we had Voltron transformers and Avengers all mixed together right you're still in the adventure you got two of the infinity stones on right now.

That they got two of them motherfuckers on right now. Who's going crazy, but Jesus is chilly. Yeah. Two of the infinity stones. I've been looking like this Nick got on emeralds and rubies. They're going crazy.

Somebody called Captain Planet and this motherfucker. Yeah, man. We got to backtrack. We didn't even get to go. We ain't get to Jackson. Come on, the mold, man. All right. Biggie.

What you want first with Janet? How that whole thing came together? Listen, that whole thing with y'all in the suits, all that, that shit is. Too crazy. Listen. The craziest record ever, my gosh. Thank you, Kay.

Crazes. Thank you, Ben. I mean, that was a dream come true moment for me. I haven't told the story before. I loved Janet since as early back as I can remember when she was Penny on Good Times. Right. You know what I?

And then when she was, when she was, when she was a Willis, girl in different strokes and shit and you know just all of the different moments but i i think the moment that really just was mind-blowing for me was just to hear her say my name i know what you mean i am where i're so many i just want to hear my name i just wanted to know that i was on her radar was right and she knew you that was crazy to hear my name come out of her mouth when she did the interview with angie martinez at the time the legendary voice in New York boss lady Angie Martinez when she was at High 97.

I think Janet was on tour for the Velvet Rope album and she was doing promo for the Velvet Rope Tour. She was performing at The Garden. So she went and did an interview with Angie Martinez. And I'm driving in the city and Angie asked her, you know, what rapper that she never worked with before that she's interested to work with because she had never collabed with a rapper at this point in time outside of heavy

D. She had already did shit with Heavy D. So after the Heavy D collabs she ain't really messed with no rappers for a long period of time and I guess Angie, you know, thought that that was interesting so she asked her and then she just said

I would like to work with Buster Rhymes And she ain't saying no other Rapper's name That fucked me up so crazy I pulled over Because I knew I was gonna I was gonna do something wrong

No, you gotta call somebody I did I did my nigga What? A cockroach you would came up Niggit I called Mona immediately

And I was like Mona I just heard Janet say my name on the radio. That's crazy. I need you to get in touch with Janet and tell Janet that I have a song for ready to go immediately. Now. Drop my blood.

Yeah. Shit sounds so good. I ain't have no song though. You just had it. It was the place game. It was the place game. I was cap'in. I will.

I will. I ain't have no song, but I wasn't losing this moment. Fuck that. So, Janet, Mornin got a name. got in touch with Janet's people and then they worked it out for us to get on the phone I was nervous than a motherfucker at the time because I didn't want to say nothing wrong that was going to ruin the opportunity kept it short and sweet and immediately got to trying to find the fucking song so we ended up finding the record and the young lady that wrote the hook to

the beat she killed it killed it and then at that point I said, all right, let me do this little speed rap dance to this shit real quick and get this ref over to Janet so she can hear the song. Did that, got the song to the queen. She heard the joint. The feedback was amazing. Now it was time to book the studio session. Book the studio session. She chose the studio because, you know, obviously shit got to be on Obama levels for her to pull up. Security had to come in advance the whole situation and make sure it was appropriate for her to walk into that space. Did the research on what kind of flowers she liked,

what kind of candles she liked. What kind of niggins she liked? Kind of fragrance she liked. I wouldn't have everything lined up. Right. Then we get to the studio and she came a little bit after I got there. And when she got there, when I got there, when

heard she was there I left out the room because I had another room so I could finish my raps and I knew she needed to record so I ain't want to be in there not being productive while she was laying her verses stacking her vocals and all of that so I said I'm gonna go on another room I could just get to my shit so as soon as she's ready and she says she done I could be done so I come in there I say hello to her we greet hug singing her praise

real quick I got the fuck up out of there fast I'm gonna fuck I'm nothing I feel it and no

and I'm just trying to keep my mouth shut because niggas don't know this is happening right you know what

I'm saying so I'm going through some shit because it's like you know what you're gonna do I'm not I want to tell

every motherfucking body but niggas can't say nothing ugly wasn't on Instagram me wasn't none of that what

look it what what's up my nike what's up my nicky You're bum-ass knickers. You are, say it, Janet, say. You bum-ass knickers.

What? I call y'all back. Fuck you mean. Ooh, these niggas. What? What? Yo. Yo.

This nigger, D.C. is crazy. Janet blazed the shit out the record incredibly. Thank you so much, Janet. To this day, I'm forever grateful. Yeah. You killed that. You killed it. One of my favorite record that listened to all time.

Record get done. Now we gotta come with the crazy video. I'm a movie buff, so I'm watching Terminator 2. I'm seeing a liquid robot moving all over the place and shit. And I'm like, this is the illest shit ever. If I could pull this off. Because, you know, put your hands with my eyes to see it's coming to America. Dangerous is motherfucking lethal weapon.

Janet Video is Terminator 2. was Terminator 2. So I was just taking my favorite movies and just putting myself in the movies. You know what I'm saying? I'm sorry. You're just game away. Now you go back and watch you be like,

damn that nigga is doing the Terminator 2. What? I'm doing Terminator 2. So when we did the video, before we did the video, and the budget came back for the video, I was like, You can't nickel and down no situation with Janet Jackson, niggas, so we got to spend one that game.

But I definitely wasn't thinking it was going to be this type of bag. Right. This is a $10, $2.4 million video budget. Yeah. So at that time, it was just... Now, niggas getting $2,500. That's that. We don't go to the gas station by some white cheese.

These niggas, stay in the liver room. Nigger, I'm gonna buy that camera, you press the car. You come-ass, nigga. Three scenes, in the house, in the porch, and in the yard. The whole video. What, but yeah, 2.4 million for the video. The production that was built, all of that silver room shit

with the walls moving in when I was doing all of the little robot shit while I was on it, all of that shit was built. from the ground like it wasn't like you just green screen and shit at the time we was building these production sets in in its entirety the only thing that was the special effects was the liquid shit that i was morphing in and out of but a lot of that budget came from the special effects company that we used at the time which was the hottest effects company because they was a part of the they did the effects for the titanic movie and at that time they was super on fire

because Titanic movie won like 10 fucking Oscars and some crazy shit like that. Crazy shit. And they took, the company was called Digital Domain. That was a special effects company. But the video took about three, four months to get completed because of the special effects. But when I walked on a set and the dress that Janet got on, the whole ensemble, I walked on a set. You know, she had these long nails and she had these little rings on them. on the end of the nails and different size rings

all over the shit. So I'm looking at the situation and I'm trying to understand and she was like, these is cock rings. Hey, man. Hey, yo, you should have laid in to that, my nigga.

No, my nigga, I'm just cock rings. Niggie, she said this to me and I was just like, wow, all right. So what the fuck are they? What's cock rings? Cock rings, Nick rings? Yeah, dick rings. Yeah, niggins stop talking that talk while I'm on this set, man.

I just want to say it one time just so I can put it out there. I ain't know. No, no, but I ain't know me either. I'm like, dude blowing on you. Oh. Nigger, I said the same shit. I was not understand. But see, the song was about, you know, making each other wet, wet dreams, all of that shit.

So it's some sexual shit. But I didn't know she was going to go to this extreme with the fit in the wardrobe. But when she explained all of that, and then we saw the designer do when the outfit was done because the dude who created it, he took that shit home, he took it back. You know what I'm saying? Even though we had to pay to make it, none of you still own this. I'm taking this outfit back home. Fuck what you're talking about.

You can keep all your other shit. This design is legend though. And we respected it, but Janet just made, she just put me in her own other mindset when she said that's what it was. So, you know, and then her willingness to interact with me in front of the camera the way she did, it was, it was really like some, some beautiful shit. I went and put a condom like, you know. Like that, man. I said, don't touch my face in the mother. Latex.

Yo. I bet when bust around left that set, they were like, man, what fuck we're supposed to do with these moving-ass walls? Yo, we left for all that shit. I ain't seen. We're going to put that. But at the end of the day, the shit turned out so magical, bro, that I don't know if I ever felt that. That magic again. I don't know if I felt it like that.

That was that. You know, I've done some incredible. I've done some incredible records with some of the most prestigious, iconic queens to ever do it in this music shit. You know, me and Mary Jay, we got a bunch of collabs. I was blessed and honored to be rocking with her since her first album, 411. She put me on that. And Missy and Mariah, you know what I'm saying?

Big up to Jaunay, too. They was on my first album. not slight nothing from none of these beautiful queens and I'm gonna continue to make iconic moments with them moving forward oh they're remakes without you on that bit oh no especially long remakes maybe a lot of niggas I gotta be a lot of niggins I'm gonna wait to that point the rest of the niggins I don't even care we ain't his buster coming on nah thank you bro but you know it's it's throughout the 29 years of doing this man it's been so many

legendary moments man we're gonna probably need a two three four part series with the interviews with this interview because it's just so much golden moments to share you know I'm saying that the Janet shit was incredible too but then you know it's like shit man I'm the first

rap dude Stevie Wonder collabed with on the Big Bang album yeah I got to grab my penis you see I'm fucking with you He's fucking. He gonna hear about it. Yeah, you're gonna hear about it. Yeah, you're gonna hear about it. Just know as a young nigga fucking with your style, yeah.

You know that. Yeah, yeah. Steve, it heard what. I was like, who is this person? I must be around you. Yeah, that's my tallest big brother, though. That's my big tourist brother. And we actually got some new magic in the works coming soon.

I hope I... That's... We got another monster getting ready to come. I'm getting ready to come soon. This is probably my third collab with him because I also did something on his time to love album that came out through Universal Motown a few years ago. And, you know, he fucked with young bus rhymes.

I'm the young bull. I'm the young tourist brother of his. So, you know, he put his arm around me and give me guidance and he schooled me the shit both professionally and personally, you know what I'm saying? So it's these kind of, Blessers that I don't, I keep getting bestowed on me to be able to, you know, look at these moments and be like, how could you not continue to have the passion and the fire to want to do it? Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, niggins is in trouble if they think that I'm going to stop. What the fuck you mean stop?

Fuck you're talking about bum-ass niggas. Bum-ass niggins. Bum-ass niggins. Knicks? Don't fuck wrong with these niggins. Some ass niggas! Get off to me! Get on me! You heard what this, the next three birthday.

Word is bomb. Fuck that. I'm definitely too much. I'll take in 11 years to finish this new album. In addition to what the new album is going to be as an experience in itself. And it's called Extinction Level Event 2. Yeah. The Rath of God.

Thank you, brother. And, you know, it's ill that you know, the first song you bring up is, is, is not what you ask you for. Don't give it to me, right. You know, that was on extinction level one. That's a 22 year ago album. So 22 years later, you know, we're looking at the shit that's going on. I've been trying to tell you, niggas, all of these animals, what they're talking about? I've just been trying to tell niggas about this time that's coming.

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Oh, let me ask you this. Let me ask you this. You already know, so check this out. We had the big family, uh, Gip from Good and Mibode. Oh, G. He told us that stuff about the experience. exact moment when you brought the behold a pale horse book and now we tell me the story we used to be in first of all big up to Dallas Austin yeah we're real big ups oh yeah that's

super duper big up to Dallas Austin I don't think people understand how significantly important he is to this culture and how the shift of the young black executive was ushered in really via him a lot of niggas don't understand that Dallas Austin was 18 years old with a four million dollar facility called dark studio and had like six seven million dollars worth for cars parked in front of that motherfucker at 18 yeah thank disrespectful at the time at the time at the time my nigga he had TLC three million four million so another bad creation two three million so boys the men 10 million sold this nigga was smacking the shit out of

everybody and was still a child and nobody was doing that motherfucker right he was he was saying that shit without saying it right with his bread and with his resume and Clive Davis loved Dallas big up the Clive Davis too but he loved Dallas Dallas when I brought up with leaders, Dallas reached out to me and told me to come to the A. Dallas gave me the flip-mode logo. Niggas don't even know that. I got the flip-mode logo from Dallas because Dallas heard about Rampage and he was like, I love what you doing, boss. I think it's time for you to become an executive though. Like let's do something with Dallas. I mean

with Rampage, I'm assigned you to give you a production deal through Rowdy and start like your little label shit and let's put out Rampage. So I was like, I'm fucking with everything you're talking about. I'm still trying to figure out my next move because I still didn't have the courage enough to want to do a whole solo album. So I got on my feature game. And when the leaders broke up in 93 to 96,

my way of getting to the bag quick because I was the first one to have a child and leaders of the new school. So I had to find ways to feed my son. And I couldn't get it no more off for the leaders the new school shit because them niggas it was over so you know i'm calling the studios to find out who in there and at the time you know i was already popping from scenario right so niggas wanted to hear from buster rhymes so i called niggas studio sessions to find out of

in there right this how the feature gang got pop yeah who in that bitch i'm pioneered Featured by the way, nigga. Hold up, what you said? I just said, I just said, I pioneered the feature. Fuckin' talking about, nigger, talk your shit! I demanded that shit, you bum-ass nigger, put me on your shit! Because this is a bum-ass nigger right now. Now, but the way, the way, the way that used to happen was, you know, I'm trying to make sure I find money, feed my child, call a studio session, see who and that.

Find out who went there. Go to the bud spot. At the time, this is before any of the drogue, chronic, none of that shit didn't exist yet. Niggins are just smoking indica, sest, skunk, chocolate tie, that type of shit. Everybody loved to burn the chocolate, though. I'll take $100, about $5.20 bags,

go get the slowest burning cigars. Them shit was called White Owls. Still to the day. Yeah. Slowest burning cigars, my nigger. I don't like that. Roll, I don't like this. Just neither they was harsh than the motherfucker.

But they burn slow. They taste like nasty coochie. God damn, nigga. They ate some pussy taste like a blunt. This nigga crazy. Your coochie tell like a white eye. Yeah, but I would go in these sessions and I pop up and I would just, you know,

had a weed steaming and niggas just smell it. Everybody won't smoke. smoke. Right. Pass that shit around. You ain't leaving without your bud, and while the niggas are smoking, you're in a corner. Right. Right.

I get to doing a little grunt, a little dungeon dragon growling a corner. Niggins want to want to. That's what I'm up to. That's brilliant. What about, Nick, don't know what you're doing. They're popping up. What you say over there? No, don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. Keep smoking. They had. They just forgot what they first is in it. So how you did it was like, Yeah, I'm doing all of that, exactly, nigga. Just like that. After I write my shit, I'm saying it to myself.

But then I get to moments where I got to do what I actually got to do on the verse in the booth. So if I got the Dungeon Dragon ground in the middle of the verse, I'm going to do it. I'm going to do it. Loud enough for the room to hear it, but not. Harry. Then they want to hear what I'm saying. Okay, now turn the mic on and then go do it in the booth. I get in there, I spit my shit.

They can't hear the song without that verse no. Right. We come back in a vocal in the control room, playing the shit three, four times in the wrong niggas is high-farm, and anybody happy, the verse stupid. I leave. Chris Lighty, my niggard, listen to this joint I did last night with such and such. Yeah. Can you send you, can you send that invoice for me, please, brother?

You send the invoice, the lawyers get the token, come pick up the check from the label, do that three, four times a week. That shit was very fucking lucrative shit to you. And I ain't had to split it with no crew. And I didn't have to recoup it from no budget. It was just my money for my motherfucking work that I was putting in, just beating the pavement and grinding. But, you know, at the end of the day, it was just doing all of that led to Dallas seeing the way I was moving.

And he was just like, nigga, you want some shit. let's why you hot and got this momentum let's put out an artist but it's yours I come out here come to the Rowdy office I needed a company

name and I just went back to Scenario Remix and I was like open up your mouth if you want the food to get rude flip mode because I'm in the mood uh-huh uh-huh yeah man that's how it goes

if I didn't get broke up blood coming out the nose give me your band-date So I said flip mode in that verse So I'm gonna take flip mode as the company name And I told Dallas Dallas came back with like six flip mode Logo options and I chose the one That the world ended up saying

So that's the first thing Let's big up Dallas for that He helped me evolve Into being an executive Dallas did the same thing with Puff When Andre Horell let Puff go Dallas called them and told him come to Darth Studio. Come to the

A, bro. I introduce you to Clive Davis. Bad boy was born. Dallas had everything to do with that too. Because Dallas was the plug to Clive. Because Dallas was the nigger that Clive was going to to get all of the millions

of records. So his hand was hotter than a motherfucker when EPMD broke up. Eric Sherman, I'm a fan. come to the A. That's how Eric came down here and ended up in the A. Started the Deaf Squad shit. Started producing for illegal. Little Jamal and Malik.

Remember them dudes? There's a group that was, they was two little young boys at the time. He was like 12 and 13 years old. These little niggas was like terrorists though. He was in the strip club. I asked the strip chick to come back to the studio with them. When they come to the stool,

they see these little niggas is around. niggas like puff and bust the rhymes in Dallas Austin and chicks was fascinated by shit like that he drinking they get drunk smoke weed knock out on a futon or some shit the niggas get in the club and 13 yeah people get you in the club these little niggas and take their cargo crash they shit up bring it back pocket and I had them wake up from they sleeping off the high thinking they crashed their own shit and I said these little niggas is illegal Dallas said that that's what we're gonna name these niggas

illegal. The name of the group became illegal. Eric Sermon started producing all their shit and Dallas was producing a shit and the niggas was hard. Little Jamal ended up with Death Squad. You know what I'm saying? And again Dallas was very instrumental in the evolution of Puff just being a dope and R for Mary and Jodice into becoming an executive, a CEO of his own company. Same shit with Eric Sermon, same shit with Buster Rhimes. So back to Gip and GoodyMogg, all of that time when we was in DARP Studio, we used to have these building sessions because, you know, I'm a member of the 5% Nation of the Gods and Earths.

So I was always into knowledge of self and just researching high sciences and things of that nature. And Gip was always there. Gip was the first goodie mom member that I knew. He was always there because, you know, his, the mother of his child, the beautiful and incredible joy. She was working very closely with Dallas at the time. So, you know, I was always super cool with joy. She's a royal empress to me as far as talent and just as a human being.

One of the doves. That ain't that the one of it, I lose all control. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's the shit right there. And Gip, Gip is like my mother fucking brother. That's, that's the God, you know what I'm saying? George Clinton at the time was coming through, and he was busing our head with so much high science because he started hitting us with shit about how

when they was doing a parliament funkadelic concerts and they was landing the mothership on stage that Fed used to pull up to try to investigate, what was these niggas trying to tell people because that area 51 shit was supposed to be classified with them niggas was doing that shit in their shows and you know talking that shit and it just seemed like they was tapping into some shit that was obviously letting the powers that be feel like they needed to pull up so they don't just pull up they need to figure out the fuck you getting into this talk so it was like George was sharing those stories with us and the

crazy shit was as he was sharing him stories with us he put me on to this book beholder pale horse written by william j cooper yeah i think he was a former naval briefing team member he ended up getting killed too yeah he did him great but the ill shit is this book was the book that really took what i was already dealing with as five percent dealing with the guard nation guards and earths and studying my shit and combining it with this shit which was some whole other shit and it just changed my whole perspective which is what turned my albums into the coming when disaster strikes extinction level event anarchy genesis no no it ain't genesis it ain't safe no more big bang like this continuing storyline that's connected by the silver line and

from what the concept is and what the content is and I'm just adding these new different chapters to this book of Eli you feel me? You're dropping knowledge on the one-knit-on-in-know You kill him, oldie! So it's like

George Clinton did that to me. That's the effect he had on me between the shit that he was schooling me with and that book and Gip, being that he was around that shit, I gave Gip the book. and he took it to them goody mom all of my brothers over there

cool Joe Seelow and all and when he when they got that book it just turned them into something else cell therapy was born and they started dealing with the fucking who's knocking at the window

pile and then the videos niggas is paying for their food with the barcode scans and now when you're dealing with what's going on here with these niggas talking about these mandated vaccinations and all of this wild shit

and Trump at the fucking debate talking about we could get 200 vaccinations done a day because I'm gonna deploy the military to give it the niggas and what the fuck military niggas got to do with giving the nigger vaccination shot is beyond me but I'm just saying this information

was fascinating back then never knowing whether or not it was gonna be true or come to life but just the idea and the what if of it was fucking with niggas and I was drawn to that shit so you know Gipping them took it they ran with it

even outcast I believe started to really get into that shit because they were southern playalistic Cadillac music at first and then they turned into this NETA Lian you had shoulder pants yo yeah

Tripp I think I had shoulder pants and the marching boots I'm like a niggum what are you What are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? shit like that legendary shit yeah but but you know all of that too is the showmanship you know i'm saying they there was showmanship it was not being comfortable trying to just do the regular

nigger shit with the baseball fitters in the baseball jersey you know and the tim boots like we could do that all day but you know there is a a nation of motherfuckers that really want to go out there and show niggas how they really feel and how they really be thinking right and how we'd be imagining shit and what if we could pull lows off what would the reaction really be if we just did it and niggas just did it with a chest out like fuck it whatever whatever the outcome is going to be it's going to be but I'm a nosed dive head first without a parachute and fuck it however way I land that's what it's going to be it didn't get to that point I don't want to say that it was just me this is before me you know George Clinton and I was on that but

As far as hip hop is concerned, you know what I'm saying? I pulled from cold crushing and Furious Five because when you look at them, they was dressing up on some shit that was wild too. They had them fucking feathers on and the fucking shoulder pads looking crazy. But see, they was, yeah, they was pulling all of that shit, though. Real shit.

And the album art work, that's how Melly Mellon, the niggas. The niggas are standing up. A group of old pictures of your own. Uncle. Girl shit. Because everybody had that one uncle who had bullshit, but it was clean at that morning. Really shit, my uncle Fred. My uncle don't dope.

He ain't doing that. But I'm saying, like, you did that, Buzz. Like, you, I don't remember what video it was, but you was dressed like one of the niggas, Chris Tucker was fighting at Rush Hour. You had like some Japanese shit. That was his clothing line. Real? Yeah. He had a clone line.

Bushi, Bushi. Yeah. Show up for Buster shit. See? But I just was trying to, you know, I was just trying to maximize it all. You know, I was just trying to maximize it all. No, I ain't saw no damn karate calls, mother. I was like, I'm like, I'm not to fail so wide.

D.C. It was closed. It was close. It was close. Yeah, I'm telling you, boy, he had that guy. No, nigger, I'm gonna keep in a buck. We had the fly regular shit for the street. Like we, we, I didn't.

like Averex leather spinoffs that was bushy shit I did sweatsuits I did denim suits like shit that make us can wear regular like

I'm gonna have to custom shit I'm gonna have to custom shit we stopped doing that a while ago you ain't ever lie you ain't ever lie

you ain't ever lie you ain't ever making about that shit that's that God for that's how you get the disrespect

for me fuck off me you bomb ass niga Bushi I have a bouche That bush is bushy, bushy. That's gonna be our closing line, Dishie, bum. Bum-ass-nigua.

We gotta talk about how you slid on the track with Mariah Carey, and literally slid on the track. Oh, man, thank you, brother. She is incredible. First and foremost, congrats. Salute. To Malaya, she got a whole lot of incredible shit going on. I think she just put out of album, October 2nd.

That shit is moving and shaking. That shit is moving and shaking, streaming crazy. She just put out a book. That shit is the number one top selling book in the world right now. And her season coming up. You motherfucker right, that Christmas, nobody can't fuck with her. Nobody. Period.

Period. I'm buying a gift. Oh, that's the fact. No, no. She got the crown for that. Forever, though. Ever. Nobody's like forever.

In my mind, then the only two songs, you really know. Nah, like she came up with a happy birthday song, like for real, like that shit will never die that, that Christmas joint. So it's like, big up to Mariah first and foremost and shit, but um, that song, bro, I got the beat from Rick Rock, my brother, big up to Rick Rock out there and the motherfucking Baye, you know what I'm saying? Salute to my brother Rick Rock, me and Spliff Star was on a tour bus one time driving cross country. See, this thing Good luck I told you Spliff

He'd be That niggas Spliff with me The whole journey Spliff Wright and shot done with me I can see That nigga

That nigga old shit kicked down I didn't watch A couple time He leaned on the back of the chair Like My neck getting heavy

Yeah now we There was a period That I wasn't fucking with the plane I just wasn't in a mood To get on the plane I'd be getting tired

of that whole plane shit Sometimes, you know, just to take your shoes off and all of that. Yeah, monkey shit. It's monkey shit. Yeah. So, you know, it was, I just, I think the store that broke through cameras back for me one time, this plane took a dip that felt like that shit dropped like 10,000 feet. Thought niggas was definitely finished.

And that was the last flight for about three, four years. Built me some tour buses from the frame, brand new, everything beautiful and that shit. beautiful and that shit exactly how I wanted the motherfucker. And we would live on them shits and drive from New York to L.A. with two of the most incredible tall bus drivers in the planet.

Only time these motherfuckers would stop was the fuel of motherfuckers had to use the bathroom. But overall, it was a relaxing drive. He was able to rest. You know what I'm saying? A lot of the time niggas is grinding so much. Until you're in a situation where you ain't got no

choice put to sit your ass down, You work into exhaustion, you know what I'm saying? So we're on the bus and, you know, while we riding a lot of the time, we're playing video games and shit, we're watching wild movies, getting ideas, we listen to Wild Beach. Niggins are sending us left from right.

You got a studio on the bus. Yeah, we definitely had a stool on the bus, we got the butt on the bus, we got the lick on the bus, but everything is just cozy. Niggas is riding out and the beat came on. And I just started singing this shit was spliff. We just started bugging out, like on some joke shit. And when the melody was done

for the hook and the words was done for the hook, we knew this shit was a smash. You know what I'm saying? Figuring out who to do it now, I was just like, this definitely can't be no record where we don't get one of the creme de la creme queens of this shit to do it. We can't play with that like we got to make sure we get the right queen for this and mariah at that time was just the most incredible choice and she was already my friend and she was she's already like super easy to do shit with you just got to make sure you accommodate the the boss lady the way she needs the queen when she pull up you got to have your shit together you know what i'm saying and and you know rightfully so she earned

write the passes to you know to get that without negotiation or complaining so once I sent her the joint and she heard it man she was all the way on board and that shit was so beautiful she got that shit done super quick turned it around and it's ill because it was the first time that I ever learned about vocal rest like there was times I needed to talk to her about her approving the levels to the song and we was mixing the shit and you know we're sending the back then just get all of the approval processes all done so we could send it to master and get a master and turn it into the label request the clearances and all of that for about two weeks we couldn't get in a talk she would like you can only text me you can't

talk to me and at the time i didn't understand that kind of felt like i was getting shit it all you know what you're saying you mean queen you don't want to talk to me you know i don't understand this shit like but you know sometimes especially when your voice is hoarse you got to shut your fucking mouth and let it heal itself but her vocal rest and we ended up having the same vocal doctor and he's incredible dr. Kessler big shout to Dr. Kessler but overall she was at vocal rest at this point in time and was a weird experience for me because I could only speak to her via text and she really

really really did not speak for like two weeks I try wrapping my head around that like even when you went a crib with your family or with your kids or with your loved ones or whatever no conversation y'all in the same crib and I got to write some shit down so I could tell you what I want you to do or I got to text you some shit to tell you what I need you to do go go get me some something to drink text like that was the first time I'm seeing this with her and It was a valuable lesson because I ended up needing that same process years, years and years later. And I started to frequently lose my voice two years ago.

And Dr. Kessler used to tell me I needed to go on vocal rest too, but I couldn't do that shit. I'm going to fuck buster rhyme's going to keep his mouth motherfuckin' shut. Yeah, what the fuck? You can't goddamn... You ain't doing this thing. Yeah, man. To go back to the breakday and stay. I'm going to go to my face.

Oh, yeah, liga. What? Because that shit it seems like being an artist, like even with me and I know I'd be doing like the stand-up shows and I'd go to the studio and I'd be, ah! Right. I know for a fact in my mind, that is hurting me.

Yeah, bro. I'm talking about literally hurting me. Yeah, bro. So people don't understand, like, how I have to sometimes get off the road, knowing that I want to go to the studio, but I literally have to go to sleep two or three days. book it on Thursday because I have all weekend.

So it's a rap. If I get on the track, it's, I do you want it. It's a right. You see what I'm saying? So the vocal wrestling, and that just put me in mind like, nigga, you have to continue. You got to. You got to.

Don't say nothing. That shit is a long time. Because you got to understand, and your voice at is prime, when you wanted to do what you wanted to do, it's the best. So you go to the studio and you just sound the vast. Well, sure.

Well, you shut the fuck up for two weeks. Ain't no telling you for two weeks. fuck you sound like your boys heal so much you don't sound like you no more like i was say welcome back welcome back like what's white man have a holly jolly christmas called white men boy no that shit that shit that's lit nah i appreciate it but yeah my mariah man it's that's that's my that's my friend i love her and i'm proud of her and congrats to her with all the shit she got going on right now because she's doing an amazing job and um again man it's it's exciting to be talking about all of this shit because shit man i'm i don't

know when this this interview going to air bro but october 30th is 18 days away from right now i don't know when me fucking days is gonna be away speaking the future we like condition coming out friday yeah okay so so today today friday so so what's the date on Friday. Friday? What's the date? Today is the 12th. The 16th. Yeah, so in future, today is 16th. Friday's the 16th? Yeah, that's when the promo run started anyway. Yeah, real shit. That's perfect timing. So, if today

is the motherfucking 15th, the 16th. Right. You see how you still doing your shit? If today is the 16th, then y'all motherfuckers got exactly two weeks and two days before this album hit the fuck the street and shift the climate significantly. Extinction level event to the wrath of God. I am not coming to discuss anything outside of how much I am going to

bust y'all motherfucking head wide open. Real hip-hop! Make you niggas rap again. Make these niggas rap again. They can't rap for shit. Make these niggas rap again. No, you know, you know, I ain't gonna lie. It's so beautiful to be able to put out

an album in this time, especially dealing with speaking directly to the times. I take great pleasure and speaking directly to the times, especially when it's been a part of this storyline for the last 24 years from the beginning of my solo career, not my group career. So 29 years of professionally doing it since the first Leaders album in 91. But 24 years since the first solo album in 96. So to go from the coming to when disaster strikes to extinction level event. And then 22 years later come with my first sequel album. I never did a part two to none of my albums. This is my first part two. And this is my first album at retail in 11 years. So this is a big moment for me. You know what I'm glad?

I'm gonna fucking dropping in two weeks and two days. Real shit. What? I can't wait. Thank you for coming and sitting with us and Let's be a part of you. No, thank you, King. I'm honored to be a part of y'all because I ain't going to front.

I don't watch the few interviews with you. My motherfuckers will be having me in a stool. Wowing. So to be here and y'all, and the thing that I think is dope with what you, think it's dope with what y'all do y'all remind motherfuckers how important it is to still laugh my nigger you know i mean all this wild fucking shit this wild cowboy shit going on there white people lacking a little crazy a little too crazy you know the police department acting really fucking crazy and you know black people out there trying to figure it out but they still

doing a little bit of crazy shit they shouldn't be doing too but for the most part you know to be able to see that there is a struggle that's being fought every day on some very real focused agenda shit amongst the common man that's just out here trying to find their way because they don't took all types of civil liberties away from niggas they literally telling niggas you get in trouble if you breathe freely I never thought that I would live to see the day that a nigga would turn breathing freely into a mandate that really ain't even passed legislatively as a law and make it like a crime. I'm not saying, no, be conscious and not to be careful. Self-preservation is obviously the first survival instinct.

Like a motherfucker, you better be careful. Like a motherfucker, you better deal with self-preservation. but you also need to remember every man has to live and die in his own iniquity which means that with every choice comes an invoice what part of living is living if a motherfucker ain't out here living with proper understanding

understanding is the best part it's the absence of confusion niggas is just going along with shit and complying willingly without asking any questions okay shit we ain't trying to understand some real shit like okay i'm gonna just put this mask on just because niggas told me to i want to i want some real information on that shit because i really want to live i know

scientifically there is some infractions with putting this mask on and recycling the carbon monoxide that you exhale is it carbon monoxide or carbon dioxide i fuck it up too they know carbon dioxide all right cool so you know we don't yeah we're supposed to inhale or recycle what you breathe out and you're supposed to do that Like that's just not, yeah, it's just not what you're supposed to do. You don't eat your own shit, you don't drink your own piss, you don't inhale what your body gives, gets out of its system. So, you know, I think, you know, doing that and then your children doing that and some sort of side effect, there's going to be some damage done in that. But if you really just supposed to be protecting yourself from this crazy shit, let us do this shit with some real substantial information.

can be backed up by some truth that can't be disputed or challenged because niggas really do want to live and motherfuckers really want to find a solution on how to get past this shit but to just be indefinitely telling motherfuckers or type of inconsistent shit and you know the regular man

that just want to go and earn an honest living can't even go do that because you don't took the fucking, you know, shut all businesses down. Right, man we can't even cast the fucking crevasiaeat. Yeah, you got to get their home crevasiating any day. Niggins don't open, though, but we just can't pass it.

They're just six feet away with the cabasier. That's the real, it's the remit. You got the goddamn throw the ball. No, but overall, without getting too off the deep end with the deep shit, I just, again, I love the balance that y'all find and still giving motherfuckers feel good energy. Because with all this crazy shit going on, the motherfucker do you got to remember you need to sometimes take a break from that shit, let the second string niggers go in and fight. And you need to recharge, nigga. Right.

Go learn to laugh and live a little bit and get to some feel-good energy so that you can get back to the fight with some fuel again. You know what I'm saying? So I salute y'all for that. Yeah, man. People from the OD itself!

That means something, man. It needs something to get them type of accolades from people of your status, because you know, we started doing this out of love, you know what I mean, for each other and just, you know, knowing that we had something to get to the world, but to get recognition from somebody

who has been in the game for as long as you have and has the knowledge that you have, and seeing as many things come and go as you have. I mean the world, thank you. I appreciate it. They say hip hop. Like you said, you were sitting right there watching it.

Thank you, Kay. Being in that moment, like, even when you were young, it was still another hip hop level that even my generation don't even know that about. No question. You know what I'm saying? So just to hear these stories, like, I gotta go look at all these niggas up.

You know, you had a song with Tech Nine. I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call ya. I'm gonna be like, I apologize. You went crazy on this nigger man You feel me So just to have that that gap Just be closed on some

Like I say bro like we've been doing this shit Wait that you hear the mister and bust the rhyme shit Oh yeah yeah yeah That's some of the crazy too I got a big of them up too Twister as hell yeah He got a whole catalog A whole catalog of him just literally just

Hey yo Swiss let's get this verses together And stop fucking playing That sounds like it's already on an album. It's my brother Swiss. That's my fucking... Swiss is like my mom. That's one of my closest brothers in this music industry shit.

Professionally and personally, that's a brother that I could call when I'm really having a headache with a personal issue when I could get some guidance from any younger than me. He's just a super smart, very, very intelligent and very resourceful brother. And he's a giver. the giver. You know what I'm saying? And that's another thing that's important to put niggas to hear. Instead of talking all of this shit about what another nigger ain't gotten on, how much shit you want to throw up in a nigger face? It's too easy for me to stunt on niggas too. From jewelry to car shit to all of that. Niggas know my rep when it comes

to all of that. But I just think in these times, we just need to make a little more of a conscious effort. I'm not saying don't have fun. Have fun. I'm still with my shit and shine too. You know what I'm saying? But what I'm saying is, you know, let's kind of stop including in the narrative you know that we could be there to to keep each other up you know what I'm saying salute to my brother Scarface because he needs a lot right now right now yeah yeah I love Scarface I want to thank Bun B for getting me on the phone with Scarface when I got the kite about what the situation was recently and we've been on the phone speaking pretty much every day since then and you

You know, I'm gonna do everything in my power to be an incredible and a very powerful resource to scarface. Because Face was one of the brothers back in 91 when I went on a PE tour, the leaders of the new school. A nigga used to come out there with this green leather suit on in the middle of the ghetto boys' performance. And it was like 11 of us on stage. Leaders, son of berserk in the hell raises tribe, public enemy, kid and play. Old Town 357. Fucking iced tea. nigga like this tour was so legendary and PE headlined and brought all of us out and Scarface should come out there with this green leather suit with the cane in the top hat Mr. Mr. Scarface and nigga when that came on all I have in this

the whole fucking arena lose their shit and it was just the spotlight so you couldn't even see the face because the shadow or the brim from the hat was dark made his face dark but he just had that walk came out on niggas on some godfather gangster shit and would sledgehammer the venue in the middle of the scarf uh the ghetto boy set because they would come and do their group shit and willie d'll do some of his solo shit bushwick bill to do some of his solo shit uh rest of peace bushwick and mother fucking scarface would sledgehammer that shit and these were shits that i was blessed to be a part of So, to have that kind of history with the bro, and we've still been able to have that brotherhood all these years later, damn near 30 years, man, it's like, we can't sit there and watch and not be able to be crutches and keep each other up. Exactly.

So, you know, I'm just saying that to say, every generation, every demo, you know, even the generations after us, like, beat them resources for each other. You know what I'm saying? Because at the end of the day, no matter how proud. Niggas wanna act like they are. Mawfuggers need. Niggas need each other sometimes. You know what I'm saying? You gotta be there.

He actually got one of my favorite YouTube clips. You in the studio with Timberlin. And then he was like, niggia, you're ain't making no, you know, basically. Oh yeah, and I started fucking with the keyboard and press that shit. Yeah. That motherfucker Timberlin just heard me press that.

He knew what the fuck he was doing, though. What? He knew he had all of them, fucking tricks and treats up in the damn keyboard. And he knew I was going, once I started fucking with it, He knew I was going to stumble on one of them shit that was going to motherfuck me up.

And it did. We got to it, and that motherfucker made the join. I actually wrote verses for that. I wrote verses for it. We didn't finish the song. I think I laid one verse or something, but we never went back to it. Yeah, that's a lost file.

Now, but overall, again, I thank y'all for having me. You know, again, I'm going to plug it, Extinction-level event, too. We're going to plug it up, my God. We are free. Did you know that this podcast was voted the number one podcast amongst black people with no cable? You're lying. Right? No.

The people's choice. We are going crazy. That shit is incredible. Congratulations. I appreciate you. We all. We're coming up in the world. Fuck you mean.

Fuck you mean. Fuck you mean. Fuck you mean, beloved. Fucking legend, nigger. Fuck that. Look that. If you little niggas, look, if y'all fuck with me, all the little niggins is 13 to 12. Hey, hey, hey, hey.

Hey, this is who I get my shit from, you him it? Crazy-ass-A-B-ha-Bee-A-W-A, look at this. This is how you sound after vocal rest. Well, folks, there you have it. Bust the Rhymes here live on the 85 South Show. Good night. We'll see you guys next Friday. You have the vocal rest.

It is already. Wait till you want to sound all after two weeks. Thank y'all, man. No, thank you for heck, hey, man. Hey, we got to take a picture. Oh, what? Just like the first I. iconic, like moment on the 85.

We didn't have a lot of motherfuckold. Wow. A lot of them, bro. Look how Balmigate looking? Like, well, y'all got booby-brams. He had to, not real time, he smirked. Right. He's like, you know what, y'all bitch, y'all there's nothing.

Just to be able to, like, you don't understand. No, you probably don't get it, but we grew up watching you and to be sitting here. I used to ride your high school. Right. It didn't hear with you, but it's like, it is a, it show you the dreams come true. Because if somebody would have told you. any of us when we first started doing this that one day man you're gonna be able to sit down

and chop it up with the nigga that made this this thing who was running like this in front of an elephant before I'm saying like this fucking elephant on me it's just like man it's the most amazing shit ever

because as a young man watching you growing up to know that you know like all that shit he's laying out right there like them buy magazines and And all, it's like, you know what I mean? To be able to sit here and be amongst you and have you give us love is like, my nigga, what? This is crazy, for real.

Thank you so much. God, God, God's your footstance. Oh, man, thank you, King. Thank you so much. God willing, he continues to. Well, shit, ain't no God willing. He's going to continue to God my footstep. All of our footsteps.

Hey, sir. October what? October 30, if you better motherfuckling believe that. On my baby birthday, so I'm going to buy some gifts and buy you. That's a beautiful. That's what's up. That's what's up. That's what's up on that.

Love, man. Love. What? You fussy. It's a legend shit running here, game back. This one's going to go crazy. What? They made that night for me to come get down.

When I come over there, get in the wig. Say we can't do nothing the night because of my kids. They say fuck them kids. They should be asleep anyway. Say fuck them kids. I ain't let them get in any way. my weight, fuck them kid. That's the fact, I bribed them kids

with a bag full of snacks. Fuck them kids, fuck them kids, fuck them kids, with a bag full of snacks. Fuck them kids, fuck them kids, fuck them kids. Fuck them kids, fuck them kids with a bag full of snacks. I came over here, like, hey. Don't make me with you on here. Huh?

A kid did that? A kid did that? Yeah. Which one? Oh, this one. Ah, I ain't even see that one. Hey, boy. Boy.

How old this? Look at my braids. Bring it to you, this. Check out of the aisle. That shit is hilarious. He ain't put nothing in the middle. Yeah, he ain't put nothing in the middle. That's funny as fuck.

But I'm thinking, I'm good time. D.C. They look like, bitch, home with corn. Right. He made our ass feel like booty holes. He even put Marvin Gay in there though. Ha! Ha!

Hilarious! You all have looked like Arcanny. Fuck music. I want to piss on you. Drip, drip, drip. That's that key in ignition, Arkelly. They do look big do got to be looking like kale's on that motherfucker. They got Carlo looking like he's working autosone.

What's up? You look like you're a tumor in it right here in the ear. You said they got our ears look like booty hole. Booty hole is. That's hilarious. I don't know who for that, nigga, yeah. How's you? How's you?

I know. I didn't have a fool like this. I know. You look like you said, give me a piece. American soul. Give me a bite. They got a dick like my name. I'm not looking like you look like you did.

This sounds like the beginning of the movie. Trying to commit the robbery and shit ain't going right. He got down with that one. I can tell he fucked up the tooth. He's just blacking it out. He's blacked it out. He's like, goddick! You got that nigga Lowe's showing some chew.

Me and Marvin Gay had a show. I ain't even flared. That's the cold. He's looking like with my microphone. Who's, who got the mic? It's my turn. to sing. I'm doing the ad-libs. Welcome into the new world.

I am looking for a new girl. If you are her, then I am him. Let's go for swim. Not in the pool, but in your rule. Won't you make me drool when I eat your coup de-j-cool? Cool, cool and after I get fixed, Coochee real good. Then I'm gonna pull out my big ass dick and you're going to lick.

Cooch real good. Lick, lick, she can give it a lick. Coochee. What's up, sir? Coochee real good. Hell no! No! No.

What's energy? Yeah, sir. Oh man, thank you, dude, dog. Yes, sir. How you live? Always. Always. It's beautiful.

It's beautiful. I was telling somebody. I said, man, after all these years, I still get excited every time. Get excited every time. Come on, man. You know what we on. Trying to make this house a home. Hold on, bitch.

Oh, bitch. Let me see them tips. Oh, yeah. I said, hold on, bitch. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. Hold on, girl. Oh, man.

I give me some of that pussy, babe, babe. Baby, give me some of that pussy girl. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl.

When you just came outside, I seen that you were dancing. I wanted some of that pussy, so I took my chance by asking me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy, girl. If you want to be my friend, then give me some again. I'm tired of asking, I'm just going to ask you when. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy, girl. The last time that I had it, it was automatic.

You told me to go touch it, so I had to reach out and grab some, give me that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl. When I take you out dancing, and I'll just take my chance in, and I'll just take my chance in, and I'll I won't hold your hand because I'm not your boyfriend. Give me some of that pussy, baby.

Give me some of that pussy girl. Give me some of that pussy, baby. Give me some of that pussy girl. My nigga, new. I'm living amazing. How are you, bro? Good, brother. Welcome to the trap, man.

I guess we're gonna get you right here. Cat gonna get you set up. Yeah, Kat, you getting them good. Good. Bus a bus. Shit, everything. Oh, gee. Hey Gil!

Hey! Hey! Are you kidding? Last time that you gave me some of that pussy, girl. Last time that you gave me some. me some I didn't want to touch it but now you try to give it to me cause it's in my budget give me some of that pussy baby oh god are you guys are you just re-living time I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.

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