The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - CASE in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: January 26, 2024

R&B crooner CASE sits down with Karlous, DC. and Clayton! || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelc...o.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:34 or wherever you get your podcast. This is on a daily playlist. Man, we'll be talking about this shit all the time, bro. You see, just like, opposed to yesterday, some nigger, he said, this is how he picked at the end of the video. And niggins said, a nigger answered the phone. And I'm like, y'all can't say it no more. I post this shit yesterday.
Starting point is 00:02:50 It's so a comedian, nigga. And make a nigger wish they could sing. That shit, it like that, bro. Good lucky, y'all. You came out the gate with nothing but them motherfucking hits. Man, no bangles, what? Number bangers. Man, that was the plan for the beginning to make shit
Starting point is 00:03:04 that motherfuckers went here at 20. That's it. You pulled it off. Yeah, that was the plan from day one. Jay Winn, you got a whole case playlist over there, don't you? I do. I can't feel. Let them rip.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Let them rip, Tater chip. Come on, man. Yes, sir. Oh, boy, I'm sleeping out. Come on, man. Nick. Let me tell you, tonight we made this shit. Niggas have bunch of strips in the studio.
Starting point is 00:03:28 right? Come on, man. So, hold on. Let me tell you about this shit. Let him run down. So this nigga, Joe, his man dropped off an envelope with like $10,000. So when a man had some dice, I'm like, I'm about to get this nigga. So we fucking get him. This nigga hustling me, nigga. He's like, I never played before, nigga.
Starting point is 00:03:46 Nigger, so after I lost the $10,000, I would try to get off him, Nick, I put him on, watch up everything and he was that game over. And then I drove home, like, a good 40-minute drive. Don't remember. I woke up the next day, In my bed with a bag of food, which means I stopped at the diner full of police. Damn.
Starting point is 00:04:04 I'm like, yo, I remember standing outside the studio, and I remember waking up the next afternoon. You left that studio session lit. Yes, sir. You don't remember the song at all? No, I remember the song. Okay. Because I had the song. I remember leaving the studio.
Starting point is 00:04:19 I remember standing in the front telling somebody I'll holler at you. And next day, it was 2 o'clock in the afternoon next day. And then that day was like, yo, y'all sound drunk. You got to do it over. Turn this hit up. Y'all got a point. Turn it up. You got a little bit.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The next week. For real? Hell yeah. I want to hit a drunk version. I wish I had that shit. I want to hit a drunk version. I know that shit was a real nigga shit. That was a real nigga shit.
Starting point is 00:04:41 That motherfucker probably hit way different. They play that shit in the deep South. They play that in Mississippi. Exactly. That's why I want to hear. Hell yeah. That's funny as shit. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:57 No, Beyonce was a happily of after Yeah, yeah Come on, man Now that's crazy Yes, sir I was watching that video the other day The funniest shit is how many people don't realize That was her
Starting point is 00:05:11 But do you understand like We live with a whole generation Of people who don't have no idea What was going on before they was born No, David Your video was just going by the other week Because Beyonce was in Did you know that?
Starting point is 00:05:25 No, social media TikTok and Twitter. Oh, I didn't. You saw that? He said after after was going viral last week. Happily a after video. The 20-year-old kids just found out that Beyonce was in there.
Starting point is 00:05:38 No, I didn't see some 50-year-old motherfuckers like, I just found out today. Word? I block all of them. He blocked all the motherfuckers. He blocked all the motherfuckers. All them got to go. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:51 That's funny as shit. But I ain't had no idea. That's crazy. Yeah. Like in my head. Hey, I'm like that. I think this is you want every week. I don't know what you're faster.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Every street. Oh, yeah, fuck. You're like, group, man. I've been down. Huh? What do you got? What you got? You need ice?
Starting point is 00:06:20 Oh, okay. I told you did ice, nigger. That's what I'm like. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I thought that's what you said. My bad. Oh, that shit. Timeless, man.
Starting point is 00:06:43 This shit was fun times, yo. This shit was fun times, for real. That's cold. That's some cold shit. Look at it, man. It's like you just don't miss with this shit. I look how you kept it so street. The intro of this song is probably the niggins' favorite shit.
Starting point is 00:07:18 So they're here. Yeah. Yeah, of course. What? The funny. I'd be singing this shit is wild weddings while I'm going through a divorce. That's bullshit. Beautiful-ass wedding song.
Starting point is 00:07:36 What? I told my ex-wife, I told my ex-wife, I'm like, we're going through divorce, but any nigga you start a day, they're going to play Touch Me Teeze Me at a party I go to a bitch. That's some nigger shit. They're going to play Touch Me Tees me and A party, go-teach in the niggins. They're all fans. Yeah. That's what I did to die.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Oh, I said you two joints, Joe. You did? Yeah. Said them all. This one of them one. Mm-hmm. This is one for the bras and one about the police killing them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:08:04 Uh-huh. You know I'm his A-N-R. Thanks. Oh, shit. You need your opinion first thing. Yeah. I was just about to hit you with the collab, but I see he already did it. Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:08:18 You love me. He is. So I love it. Yeah. What you do me. You know what this is. This one Coochish still had hair on it. Oh, I'm talking about it.
Starting point is 00:08:30 No, no, no, no. They were wet. They were wet. Right that era when they were saved you. You're in the street. No, no, some of them started shaving it. All right. I tried to stay on that side.
Starting point is 00:08:42 This is genre of music. Before that, nigg, it was all fucked up. Yeah, we called the Harry Coochoochoole music. But the funny shit, I was sitting there like, yo, I was dead-ass. He's Harry Pussy. I still will. I still will. I still will.
Starting point is 00:08:52 Nah, nigg. I will. I'm wrong. You just eat an oligar. I've grown. You see it being right now as a hair and pussy? You like, I know that shit good.
Starting point is 00:09:04 That shit, that shit got to have hair because it's too sloppy. The hell stop. It's too sloppy. The hell got to catch some of the juice. She had that big skit. Her pattern is be fucked up. That's funny and shit. Some friends became just faces.
Starting point is 00:09:25 What do you say? Some people grew up. You get drunk at saying this with your partner walking them to the car. Everybody in the crew sang. You told me. Yo, let me tell you the best shit ever. My whole boy was singing this shit. This nigga gets in the car.
Starting point is 00:09:42 He's like, yo, I'm like, what's wrong? He's like, yo, my shit tripping. What you mean? This nigga got in the back seat and put the key in the hair rest. Like, this bitch won't start. Give me your keys, champ. He was dead serious. I'm like, yo, give me your keys.
Starting point is 00:09:55 God. Yeah, nigga. That shit was awesome. Nicker. We got him there. It was his birthday. This. Brick, wasn't I just playing all this nigger music the other morning?
Starting point is 00:10:08 She came in there was like, what got you so fucking in love today? I said, I just feel like singing that day. I told you this nigga we got them type of song to make you wish you could sing for real. Love is the message, man. This used to be the slow jump for the Sky Room. We played this shit at the Sky Ring. Carine, you're like, man, you better toot, too, get out the way.
Starting point is 00:10:28 Say word. That's where it's it. What? We're here all day. This shit, come on. You ain't doing nothing. You ain't trying to do nothing a grand dick on somebody
Starting point is 00:10:38 daughter leg until the song go up. We're going to burn a hole through these goddamn clothes. I can't hunch. Yeah, that's me. That's me. I can't hunch.
Starting point is 00:10:49 You want to dance? Listen, baby. I want them niggins. You can't even dance. I figured that. I was fucking around the bust whole none of them motherfucking like, I don't know
Starting point is 00:10:58 bitch, it ain't me I bust a nut I'm freshen They gotta bring this shit back Slow dancing Bring this shit back What? These nigga too ready It shoot up the party
Starting point is 00:11:08 I mean one time, boy I was at a bad ass Bitch dance You got your big harder than an elbow I couldn't believe I can't If I get a dance right now We won't even last a hook
Starting point is 00:11:19 It's over Get on me. Can't sing no more. You ain't gonna make it to that point. Nick start snoring. I can't sing no bus. Now I'm too old for this shit. Man, I have bugger nut in my pants.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And niggins is snoring in the party. That's funny and shit. Is that an adult like the buzzing nut in your pants? It depends what it is. Turn that shit up, man. If you're watching this right now, you can hear this. I think there's a black community. We need to bring this type of music back.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Come on now. Now, then when you set the speakers outside, you're going to folk know what your playlisting on. And y'all like, y'all listen to the shit in your house. The kids get here. That's how you know, Coochie used to be better back in the day because you could write shit like this about it. It'd still be cool. I'm telling you. Yeah, all day.
Starting point is 00:12:14 Uh-huh, uh-huh. Think is they can sing get away with anything, bro. If you can sing, your ad lips can be about some shit. They ain't got nothing to do with the song. Maybe like, fix me some spaghetti when I get home, riding by myself in the car all alone, thinking about you. Nick said like Al Green, huh? I was just trying to say that. Man, Al Green said the coldest shit ever in a song.
Starting point is 00:12:41 That nigga said, I've been trying to call you all day, but I don't have your phone number, honey. Yeah, how the fuck would they think of trying? I need to hit Hal. She's going to think about that to the next week. That's some of the cold and shit. She's going to think about that a week later. Right there? Y'all back together.
Starting point is 00:12:59 He fucked up. Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's funny as shit. My niggins. Man, Craig, that's my new shit. I've been trying to call you. That's my new shit. I've been trying to call you all day.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I don't have a phone number of. Your antenna. That's funny as shit. Clay, when you start dressing like a Mexican gags? What's good? Hey. El Chapo. Oh!
Starting point is 00:13:24 Hey, and sell them, though. You sound no good. Man, good talking to. The old condos. Mm. What's what, man? What's what, man? You're coming in the fifth.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Brick in a bit? Everybody in a kid. You're coming tomorrow. Huh? You're coming tomorrow. You come tomorrow. All right. You're coming tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:13:51 That's why you asked. You ain't shit. I'm trying to get y'all on camera, baby. No, I'm gonna do Dane shit and I'm gonna do Tray shit. I'm gonna think I'm gonna do like Skid Kee's shit. Oh, good. They said, Diane won't do this shit. I'm like, well, he took us back.
Starting point is 00:14:14 Oh, I thought he was doing the straight. He ain't doing Mark. No, he did today, but he wanna shoot his shit in Mark. Oh, everybody. Oh, okay. Go shoot in here? Yeah, they want to come early. I'm like, I got those two.
Starting point is 00:14:26 What? I got those two. They didn't early, really. Yeah, like, oh, buddy, toss me. Oh, yeah, me. What other time they're going to be? Because Tray at eight. Got you.
Starting point is 00:14:43 You don't go on with them. I'm smoking some of these DC young flags. Oh, come on. You know, we're holding. This bitch, too. Oh, you see the floor we got in here? I like the floor. Oh, this floor looks nice.
Starting point is 00:14:59 Ooh. It looks good, though. We're coming a long way, bro. It's feeling thick. Hey, hey. They're friendly. The crazy part about it here, right? We got some shit.
Starting point is 00:15:16 We got some shit. She got the honey bourbon, cuck. Oh, yo. Got to fuck with my way. Yeah. Nigger, this shit, I lose 100 IQ points I smoke some weed, nigga. Nigger, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:15:32 No, niggins used to give me weed, and I'm like, why is he, nigger, sitting around like that? I figured that shit out. I'm like, they waiting for the show. No. Nick, I got the best weed stories ever, nigger. I can't wait. What if you, man.
Starting point is 00:15:44 You was in an era, too. Nigger. Nigger, let me tell you. This is the best weed story. That's weed story ever, so this bitch I was fucking with, right? She's real favorite, so he's gonna say a name. Okay, you know. Now me and I used to take ecstasy, right?
Starting point is 00:15:56 But she used to be smoking, chain smoking blunt, so she kept trying to get me to smoke weed with her. So finally it was her birthday, I was like, all right, come on. We smoked the shit. Now, I'm drifting off dreaming and coming back, but still fucking. Yeah, I looked at the bitch, the bitch ride my dick. I'm like, yo, the coach need to put them over three niggas in game, but they get their ass busts.
Starting point is 00:16:16 That bitch was like, what? I was like, I got you. In my head, I'm like, don't say this. But the shit came out anywhere. That bitch was like, what happened? So you watching the game the whole time? Naga, I'm watching them. I'm at a basketball game, nigga.
Starting point is 00:16:27 Oh, so you. Nick, I was at the game. I'm like, they didn't put them up with three niggas back in the game. That bitch was like, what? Like, nigga. You know what? To a coach. Nigger.
Starting point is 00:16:38 You get one. Let me put these three niggas in the game right quick. No, bitch, you keep playing. You're in the game. It'd have been gazed. You had been the bitch with a bit with a bit with a bit. As soon as I said that. She'd have won.
Starting point is 00:16:47 I'll still be with up. Damn. Yeah, we got to talk about this shit, man. You don't need to understand. Niggins, boys, the men, singing the background. Really? Yeah, they wrote this shit. Mm.
Starting point is 00:17:10 And produced it. But that's them singing the backgrounds. Oh, they hard. Do you ever listen to, like, music from this era and wish you made more of it. Honestly, I think I should have been born in the 70, making music in the 70. It's like more soul, that's my shit.
Starting point is 00:17:26 Yeah, that's my shit to this, yeah, that's my shit to this day. That's what I, that's what I think that should have been. Right, like, um, like, uh, what's the, what's the, you probably from that first wave where they started doing the hip hop. What's the light skin? Yeah, that's exactly right. What's the light skin dude who died from old time? Uh, that died from old time?
Starting point is 00:17:45 From, from the sevenies, man. Man. Right skin, Barry. Barry? No, Barry Gordon, he's still alive. Not Barry Gordon. It's not smoky either. Not smoky still around.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I spoke to him. I smoked it. Damn. He's like a triennial. A light skin, nigga? A light skin, man. He was fine, man. We started, then it started a lot of this shit.
Starting point is 00:18:07 Light skin, nigger, man. You say the 70, so I took it back. Yeah, I know. I know all that shit. I'm trying to think who's the light. It wasn't to me. back then. It was Smokey Robertson and one more knicker. It's a unique name and I can't it right there. A light skin nigga with a unique name. I think it started with a B. Yes. With a what?
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think it started with a B. He passed, bro. I'm tapped out. He in Moatown. He's Motown. Oh, Motown? The beginning of Motown, man. He won the original name. Barrett Strong, but he wasn't light skin though. That's my mom's sister. Not bad strong. Light skin, light skin. It was him and, and it was either Barragore or Quincy, they were both making. No, I don't think it was Motown there.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Let me think. All right, it's not Motown. It's a light-skinned niggins. It's a light-skinned niggins. So, man, all right, all right, all right. He fucking me up right now. When I say the name, y'all gonna be like. So as I hear a song, I'm gonna know exactly what it is.
Starting point is 00:19:14 See, I understand the vibe I'm getting. Yeah, me too. I'm about to fucking have a stroke thing about this. I'm gonna have. You were already? I'm already having. Bro. It ain't Barry Gordon, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:28 That was the, that was like the older, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Bruh. You started that shit. Y'all think it's gonna be like, oh, light skin, bro.
Starting point is 00:19:39 He's a light skin, bro. He started a lot of his skin. That's all you got. That's all I got. Sam Cuck went to a Motown, though. He was the father of Army. Him and Ray Charles is the two pauses and shit. Come on, Jackie Wilson.
Starting point is 00:19:55 Jackie Wilson was color. He was light skin. He's a color. He's overlooking the nigger. Everybody overlooking the nigger. He's light skin. He had like a mini-fro. Like when, not no Michael Jackson's, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Right, right, the mini shit. The mini shit. When it was starting to be eye. Yeah, when it was. He can't be the line of Ritchie. Right on. Commodores, niggins, I don't know. Who?
Starting point is 00:20:19 Bill motherfuckin' wettles, man. He is. Yeah, he is, like skin. He is, he likes skin. He is. He is. He came in like 70. He came to, like, 70s.
Starting point is 00:20:29 They were saying in the 70s. Because he started, he's. No, he was doing that folk shit. He was the first black nigga doing that folk shit. He's, he, it was somebody, I was, it was a documentary. I was watching. I say he was watching. He might be talking.
Starting point is 00:20:42 That's what you were watching the godfather, Clarence Avon. Huh? Aaron Neville. No, no, he's talking about Bill. I'm talking about Bill. But you was watching Clarence Avon joined. He was kept in a lot of shit, Kabir. He started.
Starting point is 00:20:52 He was the first one who had, he got his own publishing and all that. No, no, no. Sam Cook was the first one to do that. And then, and then Oldest Redden did it. Them two niggas had, they own, they own private plane in the 60s. That's gangster. Ironically, both of them niggas got killed. Funny style.
Starting point is 00:21:10 Both of them. Yeah. But that's what the little movie is based, but they tried to make it with Ali. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But both of them, they were the first two niggas that had their own shit. In the streets with that, uh... All day. With that shit.
Starting point is 00:21:26 Sam Cook was the shit. Was out the front line with Muhammad Alina. Right. And then he all of a sudden, mysteriously got murdered. Right. Yeah. You know how that shit did. Same thing with all this ready.
Starting point is 00:21:38 His plane went down. Right. But they thought so. sending in what you call to the prison two years, we're gonna fuck him on, mention him. That didn't can't make our strong. That's that type of music you make babies off for you. Casual Clay?
Starting point is 00:21:49 He said, I gotta go to prison. He was gonna go to prison because. Nobody. Nobody. The nigga, hero. Let me tell you the crazy shit. So I'm 10 years old. I live in Brooklyn, riding down the street.
Starting point is 00:22:01 So it's like a motorcade coming. I'm 10, I just see a bunch of cars. So it's a nigger sitting on top of the limo. So I'm in the back seat. I'm looking. I'm like, I had the Muhammad Ali Do you push him in the back and he'd do this? I'm like, that's Maham and Ali.
Starting point is 00:22:15 The guy, I jumped out the fucking car and went and grabbed his hand. He was like, Little Bram, you can be whatever you want. I got my ass with, but I didn't give a fuck, man. I went home and played with that. I had the Ali Dahl. Muhammad Ali was God in the 70s, me. It was Muhammad Ali, Bruce Lee,
Starting point is 00:22:32 and fucking Stevie Wonder, Michael Jackson. Them niggas. Was God in the hood, nigga. Mr. T. Nah, that he was the Ais. He had an advocate for. What was he? Yeah, he had a figure too.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Yeah. too, yeah. Was he a boxer? No, he's the bodyguard. He's on a serial, niggas. He started out of the bodyguard. He started out of the bodyguard.
Starting point is 00:22:48 Yeah, he was the bodyguard. Everybody, all of them chains? Right. He's from a nigga knocked out. He throwing you out the club and he's taking your shit. That's why that nigga was choked out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Taking your shit.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So all of them chants, too. Yeah. Bound, stats. Get them out of here. Yeah, he'd get like that some time. Did you see the interview he did when the dude was like, why your shoes look messed up? He was like, that's for my brothers,
Starting point is 00:23:08 because they don't have nothing. So I wear these messed-up shoes. He used the shoes with talking of the shit. Late night, we're on Johnny Carson and some shit. It was some shit. I think it was Dick Cabin. So he got famous for knocking niggas out and taking their shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:19 This motherfucker had a cartoon, a TV show, serial. He was in movies. Hell yeah. He was a wrestler for a little minute. This one of the most famous motherfuckers. Oh, word? So how he just got on in jail? He was one of the motherfuckers had that look.
Starting point is 00:23:36 And it was just... Pop culture just loved him. They loved that nigga. I think he got on, too, because he was like, you know, he was the, uh, you know, he was a security He started being bodyguard, no, he started bodyguard for people, yeah, that's what he did. So he secured at the club and then he's weird like, you know, once you got bodyguard, you start meet, motherfucker, that's what happened. Yeah, that didn't mean.
Starting point is 00:23:53 He handled himself probably was like, Nick, I need you to knock some nicket out. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got your name, Mr. T, is it? Hey, fool. Mr. it is. Hey, fool, fool, what I do? You know what? You got a night change. I fitted the fool.
Starting point is 00:24:07 Yeah. I fitted the food. Shout out, Mr. T, man. See, how long this song is. This is a fuck song, right? No, let me tell you, the night we made this, I had to make a 30-minute version with all type of edits, nigga, that shit was-
Starting point is 00:24:18 A 30-minute version? Oh, you know why. They went straight to the hotel, nigga. Nigger. 30-minute? Mm-hmm. When you put it on Loop, that's when it had CDs.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Okay. That's for you all right. Right, right. You got to put me on the name. You put that to your old boy. 30-minute. There were two of them, We was in LA.
Starting point is 00:24:37 It was two of them. There were three of them in the booth where I was singing it. So that's why it made sense. Yes, sir. But it's like, okay, when you're making the 30-minute loop, how many times are you singing the song? This is probably like six times. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:24:52 It's not going straight. Like the song, it's like edits. Some of it is music. Then the song come back. Yeah, I had a whole thing. Yeah, I had a whole thing. I was like, yo, let me do it. I'm like, I got it.
Starting point is 00:25:05 I was like, burn that down. Yeah. It wasn't just a song going. It's like different and shit. And people are like, I just made this. What did you think? So it's not even put together. So it's like words, music.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Yeah, it's like the song didn't it just be music. Then some other shit pop it. This shit was dope. He basically put the whole session on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, not the whole thing, but I had a plan. I had a plan. I ain't ever did it like that.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, we used to do that shit, d'naker. You make some freaky shit. You make it long as fuck. Right. You do the edits, the drops and all that. Right. Yes, sir. So just going to pick out from the best.
Starting point is 00:25:38 All day, all day, all day. Just go pick out the best of the best. Just so you can fuck on them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh-huh. So that's why Jack and they had them songs were so goddamn long? You're like, these motherfuckin-in-in-in-in-it. Yeah, but they said used to be long.
Starting point is 00:25:55 But, nah, that's different. You know why? Because back in the days, you used to get paid. Musicians get paid for every time the music change. You would get paid. That's why the parliament songs be changing. Yeah. Because every time it changed, you get paid.
Starting point is 00:26:08 And that's why they was doing that. Then once they stop that, then they start making regular records. Three minutes. But there's like every time it changes, you get paid again. So if it's playing on the radio, instead of you getting paid once. Like for my shit, that shit changed four times,
Starting point is 00:26:23 you get paid four times. And it was like, yeah, we got to stop this shit. Well, how does that calculate it? It's that through every 12 bars? Because it's like it's another song? No, no. It was every movement. So every time the music changes the song.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Every progression, huh? No, not progressions, but every movement when it changed it. You know how sometimes it shit, like Parliament, they should change it to a whole other song. They got paid for every time. So right down the way Travis Scott is, like that. Yeah. They used to do that type, yeah. Yep.
Starting point is 00:26:49 And so this whole other song. And then, yeah, they usually get paid every time. That's hard. Yeah, they stopped that shit quick. Yeah, I bet they did. Once disco started coming out, it was like, yeah, we got seven. This shit is 13 minutes long. It's like, no, the fuck it ain't.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah But they ain't in there Wait, but they in there making all type I don't even go together, nigga But I like it Right
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah, they change that shit quick That's why the rock songs Used to be long like that Because every time you change it You used to get paid Damn Yeah, make it brad Yeah, blah
Starting point is 00:27:24 Yeah, them niggas knew what they was doing, B, hell yeah That's a whole other check Just for a whole other rhyme scheme Yep Well shit, let's get paid right now J-O-N Move the music to some pimping for me. See you right here, my voice to.
Starting point is 00:27:38 Hey, my boy, I get. He got that, yeah. Yeah, this is the only podcast with his own original music on every episode. No, I just did that get here. Yeah. Oh, we ain't smoking? No, I'm not.
Starting point is 00:27:55 Yeah, I'm good. I smoke cigarettes. Yeah, he's good. Yeah, I want to see that. This will be a whole different interview. He good. For sure. Yeah, yeah, Newface will be there.
Starting point is 00:28:05 Hell yeah. Were that more juice? No, he'd be in for this shit. Damn, New Face! I started thinking you Spider-Man. I've been thinking that. You know New Face too, okay? Hell yeah, I know New Face for years.
Starting point is 00:28:17 Newface, you got to tell me what's your motivation. We got to have Newface on the show. Oh, I mean, no, Newface, since back in the 90s, they think he was there. And he's still there. Newface, when you realize you can get into place. Yeah, yeah. You were just like,
Starting point is 00:28:31 You were just like, what that is? I'm gonna just, let's shit in. I'm gonna just keep doing this. But in a couple years, he was gonna talk to do it in disappear places. It didn't get in with that shit. This nigga don't even get kicked out. He just be there. That's gay man, who you're with?
Starting point is 00:28:45 Even like, about myself. I'm gonna be like, starting to think you were, you were informing. For the police, man. I got your books, I got your tape, got your CDs. You're your first cigarette. You remember that? DNA's still on there. The DNA is still on the cigarette.
Starting point is 00:29:06 You got anything to say? I'm like, dude, this feels like cheetahs. This nigga ain't damn and fuck, man. That's funny as shit. Don't put my boy out. He said, I got your first cigarette. Mama put my boy out there like that. Blueface's their informant, man.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Newface there every time. That nigga was there when he was a child. He was like, remember you was 13? I was nine. You signed this little bow wow. Damn. He got the autograph before they new name was going to imagine. I got your first autograph when you was at the park.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I believe it before you did. Remember when you used to sign your autographs with a popcorn? I was there. That's funny. Did he do that for real? I think so. He probably did you with Paul for it. That shit was big.
Starting point is 00:30:00 Fucker, we're going with it. You got what? You wanted that poster in that pop print on your shit. I think he did. You wanted that poster with that pop print. That's funny as shit. Hey, who, uh, shit is that? Somebody dropped their shit.
Starting point is 00:30:14 Oh, man. That you know. Yeah, I was just about to say it. Sitting out with their drunk-ass-cloth. I know exactly who shit that is. Oh, drunk-ass-ha-who. She was a shit right now, bros. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:26 She said it was a birthday. Damn. She's been to go to the club. Shout her She ain't got her ID or car key or shot a friend to get a word Shotta fend to be outside like damn friend to go berserk Cause she ain't got her hurt Why drunk at home
Starting point is 00:30:52 You fucking right, you pulled over Dude start this shit, you know where you go on You start this shit, you know where you go on You know where you go What did you start in? You know where you're going. That's when that second car pull up. When that second car pull up, you by the way, just go ahead and just believe whatever they tell you.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Them niggas pulled up. I got locked up. I'm pulling up like I did it. Now, I got locked up. As I'm going in the jail, the chick is like, hey, too case. Why you ain't say that when he was locking me up? Too late, no. No, she was like, nigga, you were too dead wrong for me to help you. I said, yeah, you got a point.
Starting point is 00:31:24 Damn. Nah, no, she was right. No, she was right. Yeah, I was dead wrong. Nick, I had suspended license, two drinks in the cup holder. I had a pocket full of drugs. I had suspended license, expired insurance, expired out-of-state tags. Oh, you were asking to go to jail.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And then when I got to jail, it was like, wasn't you here two weeks ago? Then stop talking to me, man. Stop talking to me. And I got out because the lady was like, if you sing for me, I get you out right now. I'm there like $8.000. What you want to hear? Nick, I sang Thriller, all that shit. I think everything, Nick.
Starting point is 00:31:59 She got me right about it in. Nick, I say everything. See, they know who they want to help? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but she worked in the jail. The other lady was police. Okay, yeah. I'm like, why you wait till we're walking in
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Starting point is 00:37:20 Oh, man. We're in for a real, real special episode today, D.C. Because I know you got R&B singer ambitious, too. You cold at it too, you're cold. But this right here, this man comes from the golden era of R&P. Yes, sir. When music really was hitting like that, when you know them songs you want to get married to and propose to
Starting point is 00:37:46 and make your kids, too, and go on vacation and ride a jet ski too. You feel me? Like, when R&B was at the hype, where we really did a golden era, man. And it's like, it's an honor and a privilege to have one of the OGs, one of the real ghetto legends, one of the real ghetto legends, stop through here and fuck with us, man, nothing other than Case. Oh, thank y'all for having me. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:38:10 No, it's an honor and a privilege, man. You just don't know, man. Just don't know this. Go, OG. Appreciate you, man. I told you. He ain't lying about that golden era, man. Like, that was, like, that's what I was just saying.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like, that's when they first started kind of putting it with the hip hop. But you're right. Yeah, that was the beginning of it. Soulful as fuck. Like, yeah. R&B was running the radio. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:38:32 Yeah, that's when we were just putting it together. And it was a place for it. Actually, we were making a new place for it. Yeah, because it started with Mary's first album. And then everybody's like, oh, we could do that? And then everybody started, you know, going with it. So what you mean by I do that? I put me up all game.
Starting point is 00:38:47 Like, we could, well, when Mary's first album came out, that's when people started using hip-hop drums and singing R&B over him. We never heard that before. And it actually started with Kid Capri and Ron G in New York. They were hit, get acapellas, and put hip-hop beats under them and put them on mixtapes. And that's where it came from. Okay, damn.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Yeah, and when you heard it, you was like, oh, that's crazy. But nobody had thought of it. Well, they did. And then we just went with it. Shout out to Kid Capri. Yes, sir, and Ron G. And Ron G. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:39:18 But, man, Kit is my dog. You know, he got so much history, man. Oh, yeah. The way that I met him, we were actually, we were in, we were in Punta Conno. On one of those, you know, weekend getaway resort package deals where they got all these entertainers. They got rappers, old school rappers one night, R&B one night, comedy show one night, day parties, all that shit. So I'm over there. Some kind of way they get everybody room mixed up.
Starting point is 00:39:48 I go to my room and use the key to open the door. this nigga in there making beats and smoking a big bag of weed. I was like, oh. Oh, he'd be having to big bag a week. But they didn't pull us in the same. They then gave us the same fucking key to the room and shit.
Starting point is 00:40:02 That happened to me, B. I was in the hotel on a ski trip. So I'm in there chilling, rapping. The door opened is Capone, the comedian, him and his man. He's like, nigger. Like, nigger. He's like, I'll be back.
Starting point is 00:40:14 But yeah, yeah, they do that. Yeah, man. So that was dope. Man, K. Kek's takers are back, man. I want to know. I want the intro. I want to know how you got you. What was your intro to the music industry? Well, my pops was a singer, and I used to sound just like him.
Starting point is 00:40:34 He can't fuck with me now. I love you dad. But I know, it's real. But, you know, he used to say he was with cameo when I was a baby. Word? Yeah, he used to, yeah. No, this is a long before that. They was called East Coast back there.
Starting point is 00:40:46 Oh, shit. Yeah, so he was with them, and he got to a point where he was like, well, you can even keep going to tour with them and trying to get on, or you could take care of this baby. And so he chose to take care of me. And so there was always, like, music in the house. I got pictures in my phone when I was, like, two years old. My grandmother would make us do concerts for a company.
Starting point is 00:41:06 So, you know, it was just always music. Like, I never wanted to be nothing else. Which is crazy, because I thought everybody was like that until I got older. I'm like, I never wanted to be none of that shit y'all talk about. Which is why I didn't do good in school, because I'm like, I'm going to be a singer. which is only good now. Because if that shit ain't work out, I'd have been fucked up.
Starting point is 00:41:25 Right. But that's all I ever... Your dream actually came. That was it, yeah. That was it. Yep. From day one. That was it.
Starting point is 00:41:32 So what was that moment when it was like, uh-oh, this shit, this shit doesn't start. I'm gonna tell you. Touch me, tease me was out. And so,
Starting point is 00:41:43 like, I wasn't really going to clubs like that. So they used to be like, yo, you got to come to the club and see the reaction when it come on. Mm-hmm. So I'm like, Alright, I kept saying I was going to go, and I ain't go. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:53 So one night, we at the Jamaican restaurant. I think Erica Baude was there, Layla Hathaway, so we sitting there chilling. It's like, yeah, go ahead. So I get there. I'm like, all right, whatever. I walked in the club, chilling. That shit came on. I was like, oh, bad.
Starting point is 00:42:07 It came on, the club went crazy. I was like, oh, y'all mean I made it? Right. And then that between that and because, you know, a lot of people got the first time when their song was on the radio, that never meant nothing to me. What meant more to me is to be standing in the hood. and somebody car ride past paying it because you could pay them to play it on the radio
Starting point is 00:42:24 you can't pay nobody to play it in their car that mean they like it you know what I'm saying and so for me that was it like cars going past playing it that was crazy for me that's that moment yeah that was it man what was it like to get that deal like that to get to that level
Starting point is 00:42:42 where it's like okay they think I'm good enough to be assigned talent to have a record deal before even I guess before you yeah well for me it was like, it was something I had looked forward to, but, like, I didn't get excited about it. Because in my mind, I'm like, I got a lot work to do. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, I can get excited later. And so that's always been my thing, like, because you can get excited and fuck something up. You know what I'm saying? So you get excited after the fact. And that's how
Starting point is 00:43:08 I am with everything. Like, I got work to do. And so I was just trying to make the best shit I to make. Because my plan always was, if you look at the first interviews I did, it's like, what do you want to accomplish? It wasn't about money. It wasn't about awards. It was I want to make music because my parents were still listening to Motown from like 25 years ago. So I'm like, I want to make music that in 25 years, people are going to still listen to. That was my plan. That was my plan. Yeah, yeah. That's an execution right.
Starting point is 00:43:33 That was the plan. You did that. Yeah. So, take us on one of those studio moments when you can't believe that you're working with this artist. You sit in there and you like it. Oh, that's easy. Who? Charlie Wilson.
Starting point is 00:43:45 Oh. I wrote a song. I wrote a song for him. Yeah. Yeah. No, I wrote a song for him for his artist. It was a duet. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:52 So, that fucked me up. Just that, because I was like, I got a tattoo, a little gap of tattoo. Like, I was in the gap band when I was a kid. So I'm sitting there, he was like, how you want me to sing it? You can sing that shit, however you want. Right, right. So then he's doing his vocals, and I'm sitting on the floor behind him in the booth. Now, it wasn't no iPhones.
Starting point is 00:44:12 I wish it were. I'm sitting there like, oh my fucking God, and he's recording the vocals. I got up and left, I had to go to a landline. Right. my mom's, all my friends. I'm like, nigga, you ain't gonna believe. Nicky, it was crazy. That was it for me.
Starting point is 00:44:28 That was the, yeah, that was that first moment. Yeah, that was it. And then he said, he would call me. And he, and every conversation, he's like, yeah, okay, baby, I keep gapping and then hang up. I'm like, nigger. You in there. Nigger.
Starting point is 00:44:41 And then he pulled me on stage and do yearning for your love with him. He was like, yeah, we're about to gaptize him tonight. I'm like, niggia, that's, I got gaptized. And that's what all three of them was a lot. was alive he was like we was in um uh what's the island with the with the dutch and the front side uh st martin we was in st martin we was in st martin me and scarface was like yo he
Starting point is 00:45:01 about to call somebody else up there they was like i'm gonna call this young brother up there i'm mad as hell i'm like yo face who they calling up here nigga this is bullshit whole time face new they called me up there i'm like oh bad he's like we're about to baptize him i'm like that was it that was it that was good that was that was You rocked it. You rocked it. Yes, sir. I know you.
Starting point is 00:45:24 Yes, sir. Yarning for your love? Boy, listen. What's your favorite song that you recorded? Like, that's one of them. That's my favorite record. Mine, see, I don't listen to my own music. So, mine is probably something y'all probably never even heard.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Is it a song called Wishful Thinking? And I remember when I heard it, shout out my man, Redhead Kingpin. He produced it and me and him co-wrote it. Yeah, that's my dude. Yeah, yeah. He did half of that. open letter album. Me and Redhead and the other half was Tim and Bob.
Starting point is 00:45:54 And I remember when he played it for me, because he was the type, he would do music and be like he sit there and just smoke weed all day and be playing shit. I'm like, what fuck is this? He's like, oh, I just make music for me to listen to while I'm high. Nick, give me that. And I took it to the crib and it just had the backgrounds on it.
Starting point is 00:46:10 So now I'm high with the nigga. I get to the house, I'm calling. Hey, everybody. Like, listen to this shit. Niggins like, yo, it's 5 in the morning. I'm asleep. Wake up and listen to this. So that was my favorite shit, probably wishful thinking, shine, stuff like that. So that's this stuff that we ain't heard. Well, it's on the albums, but they weren't singles.
Starting point is 00:46:28 Oh, okay. You know what I'm saying? It's like real deep cunts. Damn. You're going to pull it up. Yeah, it's on open letter. Yeah, yeah. I know Newface heard it.
Starting point is 00:46:44 My man. Newface was dead when we recorded. You were dead. He was dead. Newface was there. And what was this every song will be having that lead single off that another professor, was it?
Starting point is 00:46:57 That was crazy to me because I literally That movie was huge And then it's like Yeah, it was What? But see, he got a thing with that We weren't on them soundtracks
Starting point is 00:47:09 Because a lot of them songs wasn't even in the movie The reason why we would put them on soundtracks Because they'd be like If you put it on the soundtrack The movie company paid for half the promotion money It don't come out your body budget. Like, let's go.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Right. Right. Yeah, that's exactly what it was going. That's why a lot of them songs ain't in the movie. Yeah, a lot of music. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, that's what it was. And for me... So you got to keep a little money by being on sound train. Yeah, exactly. You take that all day. And for me, I remember the video, we did the video. The video came out on video music box on a Saturday. On that Sunday, I went to the studio, and I went walking to the store. And I seen people like turn around and pointing. Now, mind you, I'm still in the show. I'm like,
Starting point is 00:47:51 you suck. Right. Then I look, I seen the cup. My man was like, nah, nigga, they've seen the video. I'm like, oh, okay, my bad. But, nigga, it was just that quick. Like, it was out for a day. And people was like, yo, that shit bugged me out. Yeah, that was crazy.
Starting point is 00:48:05 And you got to be famous before the internet. Right. Real fame. Oh, boy. That's real famous. That's different. Yeah, you can do it to fuck you. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Boy, did I. I get it. Oh, boy. What the fuck you won't? What did that? Where? 96. That was cute.
Starting point is 00:48:25 You know. 1990. Oh, boy. Yeah. The Olympics were in Atlanta that year. I was in the studio because my kids, my son was living down here. And I seen that the thing blew up and I called. They was like, nah, we're okay because I knew they were supposed to go down there.
Starting point is 00:48:40 But y'all was in the studio working on my album. And the same studio, Tupai got shot him. got shot in. I was in that studio when that shit happened. You got to give us the storyline behind the famous line. I can't sing no more. Shit, that was it.
Starting point is 00:48:59 So missing you, Tim and Bob had the song and they was like, yo, we want you to record it. I didn't really like it. Man. Which is how he'll tell you. That's how you know if the song is good if I don't like it. You know, Cisco said the same shit.
Starting point is 00:49:13 You said the same shit. Y'all song, we don't like that song. I don't like it. I got a better one for you. I don't like that one. I got a better one for you. I'll be sure as one of my mentors. Devante went to the studio when they was mastering the first Jodice album,
Starting point is 00:49:29 and DeVonte took come and talk to me off the first Jodicy album. And Al took a cab and was like, don't tell them I'm coming. It was like, no, the fuck you ain't, because they didn't like the shit. No. That's how they go. So usually the one you hate the most is, that's going to be that one. Man, why is that too thing? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:44 I don't know. I don't know. The artist never have a connection with the head. Right. He's like, I don't like that one. He'd be like, phew. Go sing it. I want to sing this one.
Starting point is 00:49:53 Yeah, that's how to go. But, so I got there, I got to L.A. like, on a Monday. Right. Lost my voice. So I'm like, okay, I lost my voice. So they're like, okay, we put you to Tuesday. Tuesday, still can't sing. Wednesday, still can't sing.
Starting point is 00:50:07 Thursday, my voice came back, and I'm hanging out with Jai and Irv Gotti and them. It's like, yo, we got this song. This Steve Wonder. record. Now, me and Jai had did like three songs before that, that we did some print shit, Prince wouldn't clear it. It's like Stevie Wonder said he'll clear it, so I need you to sing on this song. So I go sing, I'm living it up with Jai. Hey, man, hold up, bro. Man, that's at the height of Jaroos. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:34 Yeah, yeah. We'll get to that one later. We'll get to that one later. And so I sing the song, and then we go hang out. Right. Well, now I lose my voice again. God damn. And now it's, because I, I'll, I'll, I got happy. I'm like, I'm back, nigga. So we out all night. So now it's Friday. It's like, if you don't sing missing you today,
Starting point is 00:50:50 you're not going to be able to do it. Now I can't talk. So I'm like, all right, I try, but I'm telling you, I can't talk. I'm typing this and having my man tell him. I'm like, he can't talk. He's like, well, if he don't do it, it ain't going to happen. Get to the studio. He was like, yo, he can't talk.
Starting point is 00:51:06 He'll try it. I'm like, all, cool. So they played a whole song from the beginning to the end. I go sing it. is like, can you do it one more time? Like, I say it one more time all the way down. So at the end, I could feel I'm like, this shit about to be over.
Starting point is 00:51:22 So I'm like, I can't sing no more. And I can't sing. And I look, and I look, because I felt it. And so I look, I look, and these niggas in there with the lights out like this. So I walk out the thing and go and tap. I'm like, and that's how, that's how, and they kept it. And people was like, I thought you meant you was too emotional.
Starting point is 00:51:41 Now I was dying. That's what happened. But he goes the best part about that. But he goes the best part about that. Both them songs got nominated for Grammys that year. Which is crazy. Which is crazy. What?
Starting point is 00:51:58 You're killing me. But you ain't got no voice. Yeah, it wasn't nothing left. And that's crazy because as an artist, we always just want to feel at our 100% or at least somewhere where we're like, I could take control of the little. room, but it was like one of the moments when you're like, bro, bro, I never want to force myself the same. Yeah, it's over.
Starting point is 00:52:21 But you know what I noticed? When you know that there's that you're not 100%, I think it's in your head that you try harder. Because I always do my best when I'm not 100%. Always. So I think that's mental that you know you're not 100%, so you just say, fuck it and go for it. Right. Because you kind of like, you stretch yourself to do anything. extra shit that you normally wouldn't do
Starting point is 00:52:44 because, you know, when you're chilling, you just, you hit the notes that you just practice. Right, you cocky. Right, right. But now you've got to work. Right. I think it makes you work harder. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Damn. Like, so what type of breathing exercises do you go, you know what I smoke cigarettes? I do a type of shit. See, that's why I don't never like to get it back some niggies. They always say, man, listen. I just say, my nigga.
Starting point is 00:53:08 I just said. God, damn. Nah, I just, yeah. I just, yeah. Yeah, and it's terrible. Right. Yeah, yeah, but it is what it is. Damn.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Because I'd be trying, like, sometimes I can tell, like, I got allergies. This nigga be singing, though. That's an honor coming from you, OG. No, no, no. I forgot what the video was. I'm like, I'm looking at it. I'm like, I thought he was joking. I'm like, wait, hold up.
Starting point is 00:53:32 I'm like, no, this nigga is singing for real. Oh, y'all don't play no game. Man, I already seen it. I'm like, okay, bet. Let's go. That's a nigga buddy's inspiration, even from you can come to tell him. you and my playlist, I'm listening to some of your shit every week, nigga.
Starting point is 00:53:46 That's dope. I appreciate that. Every week, I'm talking about a playlist. Yeah, this dude be singing. You feel, me? So it's like, you're an inspiration to me too. Man, I appreciate that. You dig what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:53:55 So it's like, sometimes when I go in the studio, yeah, I may cut your shit on first. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. I got, I got this. For sure.
Starting point is 00:54:05 That's like, whoa, I get on stage every now. I got a whole live playlist of all my favorite artists live on stage. I was rubbing some cootry earlier this week to some of your song. My name. I ain't no singing niggie. But like when I'm in my house and in my car with me and my lady, I'm doing the lead vocals. You really be my, you backing me up.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I can't wait. And she's the biggest fan. Man, what? And then she threw her little part in. Man, we'd be rocking that shit. That's how you're supposed to be. Can't neither one of us sing, but only we accept each other. As long as you feel it.
Starting point is 00:54:36 Right. But the shit be sounding. Like when I'm at the career about my. myself my shit sounds just as good as the rest of y'all yes sir yeah that's how it's supposed to be like it's some stuff you hear some stuff you feel like i sent him a video earlier this girl i'm gonna get on a song name is stout she's oh oh my god so i sent that a record to get on for my new album and I'm like you don't even hear her what you feel what the fuck she'd be doing this shit is just crazy so oh what was your like inspiration like where you you say your people listen to the music
Starting point is 00:55:08 Oh, yeah. So when you go in the studio, like, who was your inspiration that were making you do the sheet you would do? Well, for me, well, first of all, my grandmother, all the grandkids, whether they could sing or not. Right. Y'all better know all James Brown or all Ray Charles. Everybody, you're getting out. Yeah, she was gangster like that. You're getting out.
Starting point is 00:55:27 Yeah. So we knew all that. And then over the night, it was Michael Jackson. Remember, I was a little kid. I'm like, this nigga just did the robot. Right. I seen that live. Right.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Nick. Oh, what you went to do? Yeah. So, yeah. Like, why, what the fuck? Everybody was outside afterwards trying to do that thing. The whole project was trying to do the robot.
Starting point is 00:55:46 That's when it started right there. They thought Michael Jackson was an alien when he hit this. When he hit that shit so smooth, my fuck, swore Michael Jackson was an alien. I'm still not sure. Tell me, when he had that fruit. Yeah. That day, when he went over there,
Starting point is 00:55:59 when he went to inside and kept going. And they dropped right back in with the rest. I'm like, yo, dog. And me and my little cousin, when my grandmother used to make us do constant, We used to fight over which one was going to be Michael today. But he was younger. I used to whip his ass.
Starting point is 00:56:12 He was Jermaine a lot of time. Yeah. Yeah, he was Jemaine. At least he ain't have to be Tito. He could have been, I don't know, as long as he wasn't Michael. Jemaine could have been Mike. Mm-mm. When Mike won there.
Starting point is 00:56:25 What? No, no. Which one that was? I get him confused. Have you ever seen that video of Michael Jackson on stage and his brother trying to out sing him? And he's looking at them like, do you see this? No time when he was dancing. Marlin, yeah. But that was part of the show, but that's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Bro, I didn't know that's Marlon. They told him when he was dancing. Yeah, that was part of the show. And they were singing, and the nigga kept singing over with Mike, and Mike were looking at the other brother, like, Oh, this nigga tried me. Yeah. What one of them, nigga can dance, though. I think it was Marlon. It was Marlon. It was like, it was mollum.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yeah. But it's just Mike was starting to have extra shit about telling him. Mike was on some other shit. Nobody's a robot shit. Yeah, that's, when I saw that be, I'm like, His was funny. I ran into some of my cousins from back then about 10 years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:09 They was like, can you still do the robot? Like Michael Jackson? Like, baby, I was seven. Right. My shit would work like that anymore. Yeah, I was seven. No, I didn't. Man, it's crazy.
Starting point is 00:57:20 That nigga went over that hour. I was like, hold a little, hold on, right there, this shit. Yeah, he was serious. It was him. Yeah, it was him, Stevie Wonder, Donnie Hathaway, Marvin Gay, Gap band, Earth Win the Fire.
Starting point is 00:57:32 I listen to the Beatles. I listen to fucking. Black Sabbath, Les Zeppelin, all type of shit. Okay. Because you can pull something from all of it, and it's all black music. People don't realize that. Why are you saying that? Well, all rock and roll is, is the blues, but instead of acoustic guitars,
Starting point is 00:57:48 electric guitars, and heavier drums. That's all rock and rock, it's the blues. Yeah, it's the blues. Facts. But some of it is the same exact songs. It's just heavy drums and electric guitars instead of acoustic, and people, that's white people's music. No, that's our music. They took it.
Starting point is 00:58:00 I can't listen to the music guitars. What? Nah, I'm telling you. I know what I'm just saying. I got something you can listen to. I can listen to them. All that's scratch. No, no, no, no, no, you listen to the wrong one.
Starting point is 00:58:09 You got to listen to the ones that's the blue. That's all of me. I got some, I got some shit that's crazy. I know what you talk about, though. Yeah, it ain't that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the fuck is that, right? Cocaine music.
Starting point is 00:58:21 But no, it's all our music, though. I like that shit. I love it. It just, no. You don't even be sounding like the shit be connected. Like, I'm rhythm. I'm rhythm and blue. That's why I got so few to hear.
Starting point is 00:58:32 So, let's see me whew. Nah. That shit sounds like you want. She's punching your eyes. It's this white boy. He did his rest of the pieces of Dianbeg Daryl. Dynbag was gangster. Dianbag.
Starting point is 00:58:42 He wasn't the best. He was cold. He wasn't one of them. Oh, yeah. Dyebag, Dynbag, yeah. Dynbag. Didn't he get killed? He got killed on the road.
Starting point is 00:58:50 Yeah, Dynbag. I know Dian. See, that's my range. My range of music. It started. My mom wanted to let me touch the radio. She didn't listen to rap. So she listened to gospel.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So I more so understand, you ain't got to be the best single. But if you can hold a note and go with the beat, you damn damn can sound better than the best single. It's where the music placement. It's like where you hit the note that. Yeah, it's feeling. Let me tell you. You just got to have some shit to say.
Starting point is 00:59:28 No, no, no. We'd be little kids singing hard as we can. My grandmother would be like, get up and walk out the room. You'd be like, so now you've got to follow her. Or she'd be like, let me know when you're ready to sing. It just walk out. You'd be like, oh, so now you're singing harder, harder. She'd be like, now you're singing.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Right. But she'd be hard on you. She'd be like, yeah, let me know what you mean that and get up and walk out. So she was kind of like. She was the Apollo. She was the Apollo. No, she was the Apollo. How they boo you?
Starting point is 00:59:53 Yeah, she'd be like, let me know what you mean that. Just get it. Now, imagine you sing a hard. This is all for her. Right. She's like, yeah, let me know who you mean that. And just leave. She don't even look back.
Starting point is 01:00:01 So she made you cold. Yeah, she's like, I'm like, if I could press her, I'm a win. She's like, yeah, let me know when you mean that. And just leave, and you like, me and my cousin, like, yo, she's talking to you, niggins. My mom was just sitting there and just like, you can do it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm glad she didn't make me dance because I can't dance for shit.
Starting point is 01:00:22 At seven. You want me to stand James Brown? You're damn right. No, she wants you to sing Ray Charles at seven. Dang. See, I went from gospel. Michael Jackson. and then this was
Starting point is 01:00:33 this is where my music went everywhere. I went from gospel then I went from like I that's from being forced to listen Right, right, right, right. Now I'm at an age where I can pick and choose Cool, let me go grab some mic then So I'm mic that from like six to eight
Starting point is 01:00:52 Right, right. I listen to ABC that was, I had a cassette, I come from cassette Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I hit the cassette ABC, I look to the same shit for fucking Years, nigga, I'm ABC. Then I get the CD of Mike, and then I go straight to M&M.
Starting point is 01:01:11 You went from Mike to M&M? That's not even the... Nah, that's not a thing. Nah, it was some shit in between that. You couldn't away from Mike to MN. I went to Mike to M&A. Not ABC, Mike. No, yes.
Starting point is 01:01:22 You ain't fucking off the wall and thriller in between? You didn't get no dirty. No. Nothing? Hold on, let me tell you. But your movie was the shit. That's a 50-year.
Starting point is 01:01:31 That's a fift. 40-year gap. Let me tell you my John music. This was a gift. So you all understand. I got introduced the music off of accident and it was a gift. I got a gift as a cassette. So I'm listening to Mike. So I'm like, I'm a fan of mic, so my
Starting point is 01:01:45 mama bought me a cassette. It was nothing but Christmas songs, so she don't know what to pick out. So I had that Christmas song condition. Nick, it's April. Yeah, yeah. I'm listening to Christmas and shit. Yeah, you're trying to hear that. Say, yeah, Kevin. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:59 Yeah, yeah. Oh, next month, that's coming out. That's coming out. That's coming out next month. Yeah, yeah. And I'm talking about Santa Claus. So I got, uh, look, as of age, I still listening to Mike, but Brainsfield one. And I went to Eminem.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Mm-hmm. Nick, it was a rap. I said, this shit lit. Yeah, Eminem is a shit. And then I got back to Army while I got a little older, where I'm like, alright, let me go listen to some soft shit. Oh, I'm Drew here that you. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:29 Joe this here. Yeah. bro, that's why it's like he didn't introduce me to hip hop he would just He was your interest That's why I was like shit is great He was your introduction
Starting point is 01:02:42 He was like fuck you white man That's funny shit I heard rap But he was my first rap that I had I'm still tripping I'm going From ABC to M&M n nigger
Starting point is 01:02:57 I found this CD at my house My sister was That's crazy. It was like chipped a little bit. That's like, what the fuck? The CD? What's the M&L? It was the, it was the, it was the, uh, the red carpet motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:03:11 The M&M show. Oh, so you wasn't even, oh, you weren't even, oh. I was, nigger, I would never diss my own mama just to get recognition. Take a second to listen, who you think this record is this, and I was, what? I was at four friends talking about, I'm sorry, mama, for a knicker. I never meant to have you. Who is this, nigger? Nah, my friend.
Starting point is 01:03:31 When I heard it till I collapsed, I was like, hold on, I got to start listening this mother. When I heard until I collapsed, I'm like, I didn't start listening to this month. I thought every now with black. I did. I'm thinking you're talking about the first album. Me too. Me too. That's the one nobody, nobody even heard that one. No. That the red, the red.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I know the one you're talking about. The M&M show. That's the M&M show. All I knew is, I put that bitch in my CD player. Go to the track number four. It was like two on it I could listen to. All the other shit I couldn't listen to. I already know what the phone were going on.
Starting point is 01:04:01 I don't know what he's saying. Don't nobody listen to Eminem appreciation right here. No, I miss Eminem. I for Eminem, he's an artist. He's creative. Until I collapsed. When I heard that, I was like, and people used to get in my car,
Starting point is 01:04:15 why you play this shit? I'd be like, just listen this. He can rap. I'll play that, think he's like, oh, okay, okay. But you know what I admire, I admire a motherfucker who knew a lot of words. Yeah. I don't know why I am, I'm like, bro,
Starting point is 01:04:26 anybody that know a lot of words, you can rap. I'm like, bro, listen to this shit. This nigga know a lot of words. And you know I put them together. I'm talking about going crazy. Cate is going. Nigel, you press number four.
Starting point is 01:04:35 Listen to eyes just don't give a fuck. And hear that. But you know I told me, you know why? Because if you black and you rap, you can be good and niggins are like, oh, he dope. No matter how good M&M is, they're going to be like, ah, he whacked. That's why he had to keep trying harder.
Starting point is 01:04:49 Black people was like, my grandmother, the M&M. He's like, let me know when you make that. My name is, bicketitit, baby. Boy, you better talk. You got it. You got to get, white people a lot. credit for, like, mediocre stuff and just knowing black shit, but he wasn't them taste rich.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Because when it's kind of rap, we don't. When it's a rap, we don't. When it's right, yeah. Yeah. We're giving mediocre black dude. He'd be like, yeah, he's dope. He don't be dope. He'd just be your cousin.
Starting point is 01:05:17 That's daddy, come on. But M, no matter what M speaks, he can be like, nah, fuck this white boy. You know what I'm saying? Shut up. Like, his shit was angry. You can see why the motherfucker would wear a baddle. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:27 Because he had to always try harder, because he ain't never going to get the props that he deserve. But see, this is what I'm trying to do. It all started with my mother took my bike away because I heard of my ghost feet of stuff.
Starting point is 01:05:37 After that, it was grade for 40 hours. Yeah. Snap the teacher. Jacking off in front of my counselor. Yeah. Yeah. Him too?
Starting point is 01:05:44 He'd be him too. Sorry, listen. Yeah, that nigga said, yeah. Yeah. What school was this? That nigga said, uh, uh, uh, damn, what's the world where he's in?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Nan, na, na, na, na. Ne, ninn'i, na, na, na, na. Na-na-na-na-na-k na-na-na-na-ha-ha. Get me back, back. Back again. It'd be so empty without me. Yeah. I would say that to my kids' over day.
Starting point is 01:06:09 I'd be saying that to them. It'd be so empty without me. When I'm back, Nana-na-na-na-na-na-da. Then you're gonna... Yeah, that's my shit right there. Yeah, that's my shit. Too-tell-tall.
Starting point is 01:06:21 Yeah, that's my shit. What he was doing. It was a superhero shit. With the superhero shit. That is fuckery All day I'm fucking with Mnob That motherfucker is crazy
Starting point is 01:06:35 I'm fucking with that dude But you know how you know though Everybody be like Yo don't nobody listen to Eminem Nah literally everybody listens to it No but what I'm telling you is Any other white rapper Anybody would have came at him
Starting point is 01:06:49 It's a reason nobody Come at that white boy You don't want to deal with it Because you don't want that on your jacket That he ended your career Yeah you don't want that That's why nobody can come at him Hell no
Starting point is 01:06:59 Yeah In public They said I want two things To come outside and give me head Yeah he's a wild dude Hey boy y'all ain't finished in here Play, bro That's about a nigga, bro
Starting point is 01:07:12 I don't get a fuck, bro Yeah now I ain't mad at you about that He was part of my reason why I rap How I rap too, bro Come on 85 man And he asked something by Dr. Dre He was like, nothing He's locked in my basement
Starting point is 01:07:21 Hey, boy It's only a few Like I don't know how to say this Then you do it Yeah, you do it. Just though it's only a few that I fought with Not a whole bunch?
Starting point is 01:07:43 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Actually, that's probably the only one I could think of. No, he's him and Jim Carrey. Oh, I thought you meant rappers. Oh, Jim Carrey got a album. Jim Carrey be rapping now? Hold on. Yo, hold on, I thought you meant rappers.
Starting point is 01:07:58 I was gonna talk about it. Let me tell you something. Yeah, I think you've been rappers. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. He said all that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You won't all, man. That's why I say, hey, boy, I fought with you.
Starting point is 01:08:13 That's funny. White rappers don't even get features from white rappers. Because everybody shoot them down no matter what. But I'm saying even white rappers don't get features from other white rappers. That's my shit. That's my shit. That's my shit. They probably want to take each other around and date each other.
Starting point is 01:08:36 So that's my shit. They made fun music, bro. I felt like they were entertaining their film, bro. I'm like, bro. You can't get mad that niggins having fun, bro. My niggins said, I'm the lead singer in my band. I make all the girls take off the underpants. My nsa.
Starting point is 01:08:50 My sasta. My sasta. Check out my nitsa. Check out my new single, it's called my salsa. Yo. These chicks don't even know the name of my bag. Nigger, when that nigger said, check out the name of my single is called my salsa,
Starting point is 01:09:03 nigger. That's away with this shit. New face from Detroit. Brough. And the nigga had a sombrero on. That thing had a sombrero on, man. I'm not going to like this. Yeah, I'm not even going to laugh.
Starting point is 01:09:16 It's entertainment. That's exactly what I have written. One of my favorite rap songs is him and Dr. Dre. Which one? The Guilty Conscious shit. The guilty conscience. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, my goodness, that is, that's art.
Starting point is 01:09:27 Actually, it's a bunch of them joint studies. Like, come on, man, you got to respect the art and the craft. Like, all right. It's different. It's different. It's different. It's different. It's different.
Starting point is 01:09:37 You cannot mock that. It's a concept. But you know what it is? My motherfuckers don't make no concept album or, like, these don't even. No, this is the thing about. We're black. We're black black. We nigger black.
Starting point is 01:09:50 He gave us an insight in his culture. check this out he gave us insight of his culture he okay what we already thought a million people like and then the difference is making some shit 150 million people like that's a big difference that's a huge difference if you put yourself on a stage that big big you ain't never had to walk on stage and perform for 80,000 people ever you might can make the most coldest lyrical shit ever but you can't rock you don't got shit that can rock this crowd it's hard to run it's hard to They go crazy when you say you about to sue your mama and throw your bitch in the trunk. Okay, so that's what it that's the type of shit you got to talk about when you headlining the festival for 200,000 drunk white
Starting point is 01:10:35 kids. Yeah. Yeah, that shit that you, yeah fuck all that shit. Yeah, they can have all the flashy shit, but nigga I got some I got to go ahead and actually perform this shit and close the festival. Now, fuck the niggas who went up at 2 o'clock and had a good set. He up there 10s. Yeah, he's going to have to
Starting point is 01:10:51 have the 22 motherfuck. You know, he performed for the world. When X performed at Woodstock, he was like, just singing performed for the world. Right. That shit looked crazy. My nigger. Yo, that shit was crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:03 And it was only seven niggas in the crowd, but everybody's singing my nigger. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah. I love that clip. That clip is the best.
Starting point is 01:11:15 It's like when DMX before a whole country. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yo, that's the best. They said that's true. It was crazy. See, I've been on X since, like, 1990. We grew up, we grew up close to each other. This nigga X used to go rob the drug block with a dog,
Starting point is 01:11:31 a straight dog that he found. On the first, it robs a drug block with the straight dog. Hold on him. How are you robbing niggas with a dog? I don't know, but he used to do it. No, he used to do it. You know how? He'd hold a dog round the neck.
Starting point is 01:11:42 I'm going to let this motherfucker go. No, it was a stray dog. Hey, nigga. Yeah, nigga. Hey. Don't get this motherfucker's, I'm going to let him loose. Shit, Martin did that shit. He had a stuffed dog.
Starting point is 01:11:56 Nick, like, shit. So he just run up on a nigga block with a stray dog. With a stray dog, but that was his dog. I don't know what the fuck, but the dogs would love that nigga. He just met this straight dog. I mean, I don't know if you know,
Starting point is 01:12:08 but this is the dog that would cut it was back. Yeah, yeah. No, no, no. I'm saying, he would find a stray dog. No, that was boomer. Okay. But this was back, this was back before he was DMX. That was the dog.
Starting point is 01:12:18 Like, we were signed to the same production company. Yeah, we were, he had just got out in jail. Yeah, no, yeah, he was Dark Man X. And he was like, yo, he was still doing the spelling rapper. He did a whole record spelling. Oh, Spell Bell. No, no, no. That was Kay Solo.
Starting point is 01:12:33 Oh, that was Kay Solo. But X shit was better than that because he did the whole record spelling. And what he was spelling made sense, but the nigga was so gangster that he made the letters rhyme, too. That shit, I don't know how the fuck he did that shit. This was like in 1990. You got killed my boy, man. Oh, shit. He out of here.
Starting point is 01:12:55 He out of here. He's gold. That's the goal. Oh, shit. I don't know why people are. That's funny as shit. And he was really seeing it. Yeah, this thing can cry in real tears, though.
Starting point is 01:13:34 It's so weird for him. He out of here. He ain't got one. You get one of her. Oh, that's funny as shit. He's out of him. Oh, that's funny. They meant every word.
Starting point is 01:13:51 Yeah, but the funny shit, you write about that shit, though. They meant that shit. Yeah, they went crazy. Yeah. It wasn't just like... No, they knew album cuts. Yeah, no, they knew the album. Like, he didn't even have to sing them songs.
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Starting point is 01:19:15 Oh, that's fucking funny Oh, they dare show was saying that shit They was looking forward to it That's why they came Exactly why they bought the tickets Where do we get to the Nika part We're going to fucking yell it
Starting point is 01:19:39 We're gonna fucking scream it The footage gonna fuck you up Because it's a white girl on somebody's shoulders And she was saying that shit loud as fuck She still saying she'd be getting knocked out once a week Because she still say this shit She'd be running running through the store The supermarket saying that shit
Starting point is 01:20:01 Yeah yeah She'd get knocked out once a week It was funny Shit What shit That's too Got that That's better
Starting point is 01:20:11 Boy It was funny He damn sure Right That motherfuck That's yelling that shit Well You got to be a clip
Starting point is 01:20:20 That shit I didn't see That shit That's funny Boy Damn man D' man Robbing
Starting point is 01:20:26 A nigga A straight dog Bro Rob the block That sound That sound That's some shit That can only
Starting point is 01:20:32 happen in New York I don't know But that shit was wow I'm like, you just met this dog He's my dog I'm about to argue with that, nigga It'd be a stray pit
Starting point is 01:20:46 Everybody else running from this motherfucker He's like, come here, come here, come here, girl This nigga go in a bandah house They eat with the dog and shit Next day they're robbing the whole block This thing ain't got a gun, a knife He ain't got no shirt on This nigga was wow
Starting point is 01:21:03 Hey, all you're here. Word up. Yeah, that thing was wow. That's my guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what it? The drop on me this time, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:21:17 Depot coming. You ain't going to have that dog. Yeah, ain't going to be. That day ain't coming. All right p. To my dog right there, B. That's my dog right there. That's my dog right there.
Starting point is 01:21:33 Man, but what day you ain't go had that dog. Man, I got it. But what day? You ain't going to have that dog. That nigger is brave. Curse you red barren? Only a nigga can do some shit like that. Yeah, that's some nigger shit.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Some real nigger shit. Yeah, that's funny shit. Like, for real. Man, you stupid a fuck, nigga. Him and Aaron Hall. That niggas is dog whispers. Oh, Aaron Hall, too. Yeah, he got the...
Starting point is 01:22:08 You seen the video on YouTube? I think so, yeah. No, he used to have Pressing Canarians, all type of shit. But he used to come through the office with him with no leash. Who? Aaron. For real. And everybody's jumping on tables.
Starting point is 01:22:18 He's like, no, no, not. Because, you know, Aaron study. He's like, it's cool. And then he says some German shit, and them shit, sit down. Don't really want the smarter dogs. I got one. I want them smarter niggies. I used to be out.
Starting point is 01:22:30 I'm not sitting around. I'm not sitting around. hoping that they listen to this German shit. He's saying, I'm out. I'm not doing this shit. You're funny in here, man. He could say one day he can have that dog. Man, you was about to tell me about the Jaru track.
Starting point is 01:22:46 Oh, no, I was saying we did that song on Thursday night, and then on Friday did Missy you, and both of them got nominated for Grammys that year. So it was like the worst week, but it ended up being the best week. Till the night of the Grammys, when I lost both Grammys in 30 minutes. It's okay What you mean
Starting point is 01:23:03 How you lose Just to the winner Yeah yeah Who beat you out We lost to Jaroosha We lost to Gwen Stefani and Eve What did you lose Just to the winner
Starting point is 01:23:13 I was like Once you get nominated You're like fuck that Oh you're on the list You nominated You're grabbing nominated Yeah yeah you're on it But no no
Starting point is 01:23:22 You get so The name was like No No no no no No we lost But like Gwen Stefani and Eve That let me blow you up That beat living it up.
Starting point is 01:23:31 Damn. And then best R&B vocal performance lost, missing you lost till you remind me by Usher. Ooh. Yeah, you have some competition. Who the first, who the first one lost? Who the first one lost? I'm Gwen Stefani and Eve. Ooh.
Starting point is 01:23:45 But that ain't, I ain't gonna knock it, but I don't know if it. That's real competition. I don't know if it's stand up still. I already know. I already know. I even got to say it. I already know. I already know.
Starting point is 01:23:56 You know. You remind me? It's all good. I mean, and who will? Missing you for Best RB vocal performance. Best RB? You remind me it was more of a bop. Yeah, yeah, it was dope.
Starting point is 01:24:10 It was cool, but it was more like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I said I'm I usher the same mode on other side. Right, right, right, right, yeah. I mean, it's part of game, but... Tell me when we did a little hat shit. Yeah, yeah, it was the hat. I didn't have no hat.
Starting point is 01:24:24 He was always doing shit with the hair. Let me see it. I don't know. What you mean? I'm just saying I'm lit, he's, I'm literally, it said vocal performers. It was R&B vocal performance.
Starting point is 01:24:37 I'm going for vocal, so I'm trying to want, because you sung until you literally couldn't sing. That's why I'm trying to figure out. They didn't know that. No, they need to listen. But I mean, that's how the game goes. You know, that's how the game goes.
Starting point is 01:24:50 Yeah, yeah. But that's a, that's, if you want to lose, that's still a good one to lose, too. Yeah, I wasn't mad that we lost. All right, all right. You come against two powerful women on some shit, Yeah, we weren't, yeah, exactly. And plus, they joint was, though.
Starting point is 01:25:05 What record was bigger? Which one? Did you remind me go a little bit bigger? I don't know. I know, missing you went number one for a few weeks, and then it was number three on the pop charts. I don't know what you reminded me did. Because, I'm missing you.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Yeah, but it's, yeah. My girl said that's poor member. Yeah, that's what's up. Ice school, it was. Yeah. That's summer. If you want to say which one is bad of nostalgia, I'm missing you is better when it comes to time-wise.
Starting point is 01:25:33 Yeah, I take that. Yeah, because it's timeless, right. I'd take that. I shouldn't ran up stage and snatched somebody else's Grammy and just ran out that bitch. Hell no, okay? No, that's fun. Eddie Murphy did it?
Starting point is 01:25:44 He did it do. Lina Richie. He was like, I'm gonna get me a Grammy. And I snatched that shit. In 1980, he walked in YouTube and walked backstage. Now I'm getting me a Grammy. I think that they're probably playing. Nah, it wasn't planned, but he gave that shit back.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Oh, okay. He gave back. Yeah. Not a Richie wife at hands. Yeah, she was like a karate bassist. What year? What year? Oh, Missy, you came up?
Starting point is 01:26:05 2001. And you reminded me came out of 2001? Mm-hmm. They was out the same time. Man, I graduated in number one, so, you know, we had a ball with that one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What? I had a ball ball.
Starting point is 01:26:15 Oh, yeah, I had both of them joints popping. Yes. Yeah, I already know. I already know. Yeah. So which one, Gwen Stefani beat, touch me? No, um, living it up with y'all. Damn.
Starting point is 01:26:28 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Whistafony more big on pop, though, ain't you? That was a huge pop record, though. Okay. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's what I'm saying, right? Y'all think Dre produced a year. Ain't no way of hell we was winning that. You already knew that. I mean, I knew I wasn't won to either one. A lot of nigginsated. And my mama called me right after was like,
Starting point is 01:26:52 it's good to be nominated, my mom. I love you, but I got to go. I'm on the way to look and start. I call you when I get back. I call it at a hotel. Now you do you. give me the loser speech. I'm like, okay. But Grammy nominated, so you can walk in line. Listen, man,
Starting point is 01:27:02 I'm grandma nominated. You at least. Twice. I can say twice. I can say twice. Grammar nominated. You know you were working with a glam. But she was saying that I wasn't even out the Grammys yet. I'm like, Ma, we had this conversation later. Because it's hard to get in the rooms, though. Yeah, it is. It is. What movie was living it up on?
Starting point is 01:27:24 No, that was just, is it in there? No, that. I thought you didn't rush out. It was in a movie. No, living it up. Well, they may have played it in there. It wasn't on the soundtrack. I'm saying it was incorporated with a movie.
Starting point is 01:27:35 Yeah, I'm sure it was in a movie somewhere. Of some sort. Oh, yeah, it was in Friday part. Yeah, the third Friday, yeah. That's what I'm saying. I was just saying. Right, you got these. It is.
Starting point is 01:27:44 I forgot about that, yeah. Friday game on. Yeah. Yeah. You got these movie hits. Yeah, let me tell you was crazy. I went to movies to see, what's Johnson Family Vacation. Right.
Starting point is 01:27:53 Now, I didn't know my songs in the movie. So it comes up. My son is like seven. he'd be 30 next month. He was like seven, so he's sitting there and should have known better with me and Ghostface came on. He's like, that's you.
Starting point is 01:28:03 I'm like, you're people here. But I didn't know if you came on. I'm like, oh, shit. Just go home and wait for the shit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Damn, OG.
Starting point is 01:28:16 So what you got coming out of there? Sure, I got a Vegas residency that starts day after the mall. Hey. I know. Yes, sir, yes, sir. I might have to come check out of show. Oh, you got the cut check.
Starting point is 01:28:27 Yes, so. Every Thursday through Saturday at Mix the Lounge in Vegas to January 6th. So I got that. I got the new album, Love Jones, Volume 2 is going to come out right after that. Do me in favor when you perform, missing you. Do the ad lib. I can't sing no more. Drop the mic and walk the fuck off.
Starting point is 01:28:47 No, they'd be waiting for that. Every night, they'd be waiting on that part, which I didn't know that. And just walk the fuck off, man. Yeah. But I didn't know that until after. I see, I'm like, yo, these motherfuckers waiting for that, and they all be singing it. I'm like, I didn't know that shit.
Starting point is 01:29:00 See, everybody got a favorite song, but what's your favorite song to perform? Like, you know, like, everybody know they got them hits, but when the band dropped this shit, this bitch finna blow. Happily we'll have to, because as soon as it, because I'd be talking to them, be like, doodoo do, do, do.
Starting point is 01:29:14 I got videos of that shit in my phone. I don't even have to sing that shit. Like, the crowd be singing it. I thought she was about to say the whole. No, no, no, no. I thought he called it something. Man, the whole, I mean, the crowd. The crowd
Starting point is 01:29:28 Go crazy When I was going to say the whole crowd And the whole world Yeah I mean the whole crowd Now the whole crowd The whole crowd be singing it I think that's probably the
Starting point is 01:29:43 I mean but touch with team You like that But for me From what I see on stage I don't know from the audience But from me on stage We're happily after it's over You got to work
Starting point is 01:29:53 You got to work with young Foxy on that one Yeah, that was like a second or third joint on Touch Me Tees Me, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But what's crazy is that we had the record. We made Touch Me Tees Me on with Christmas Eve in 1995. We made the song. You're a pretty on Christmas Eve.
Starting point is 01:30:12 Oh, boy. Touch me, me, he said me putting presents on it. That's the presents. A gift is a gift. What's the gift? But no. You can't put a ball off. on your tinnies.
Starting point is 01:30:28 But we was like, we need a female. We was like, we should get a female to rap on it. So we're sitting there because we're dumb as fuck. We like, let me see, left eye, Laura Hill, little Kim, this one. And then somebody's like, you know, Foxy is on your label. And it's like, oh, shit, I forgot. And that's when she had just did the, I shot you with L.L. We was like, oh, bet.
Starting point is 01:30:46 Get her to do this shit, yeah. Easy money. I got pictures of me and Foxy in the studio, in the booth. I still had a 40 in my head, 40th of St. Nyes. We in there with the mic recording that shit. That's a lot of beer Yeah
Starting point is 01:30:56 It was a whole 40 ounces I used to drink Now I'm like How the fuck would y'all let me drink this You don't drink 40 ounces with nothing Ever I know And they used to sell the bitch
Starting point is 01:31:09 Never mind that the smell of that shit though The smell of that shit Nick we used to drink 64s In about 92 I was like nigga We used to see When they came up to 64 ounces That damn That's a barrel
Starting point is 01:31:22 That's like one beer for like Like a week, ain't it? Nigger. I was drinking three and four of them a day. Yo, niggas, yeah. Then my man used to put pineapple juice in it. Half them nights I end up in jail. God damn it, case.
Starting point is 01:31:36 That's what the Mexican is. We're glad you did. Yeah, I don't know what that is, but that's it. That's it. That's it the next day. Yeah. Nah, nigger, you ain't never been to, when you get in jail, you're like, spinning.
Starting point is 01:31:48 You got to stay at the metal sink so the room stop spinning till you fall asleep, nigger. That's the worst. I heard So they say Yeah so they say What wrong with you Nick
Starting point is 01:32:00 I'm sleepy But I can't close this eye Nick you stare at something That shit Because anything else To it's gonna go Fast Nigger when everything
Starting point is 01:32:09 Going like this I don't know You get drunk Yeah what is that about What is that What is that? It's like a spin It's like a spin
Starting point is 01:32:16 But the spin is not as bad As this shit That matrix shit With I'm like You gotta focus on something You got to focus and hold that, like, when you just try to, like... A rest, you're going to die. Relax.
Starting point is 01:32:28 Yeah, you're going to throw up. Close your ass. You're going to throw up. Yep. You got to find something to stare at. Okay. Let me... No, because you'll be...
Starting point is 01:32:37 You'll try to close your eyes in the room. It just literally going to... And it starts spinning faster and faster. Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. Like a fan coming on. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:45 If you stay like that, bro, you go to go. It's over. Yeah. You ain't going to stay that for long. Damn. You got to find something to stare at. But I figured out I could do it with one eye. until I fall asleep. You got to stare something like, shit.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Thanks, now, don't touch him. Yeah, I'm good. You can go home now. I'm good, nigga. I just about got this. Come get me later. I'm glad I ain't drink, man. I was smoking.
Starting point is 01:33:11 And 64. Who the fuck the idea was it to make 64 ounces, though? Yeah. And we went to shit once Ice Cube did the same ice commercial, it was over. I was buying the 64. I used to love Ice Cube back. Go on in there and buying them big ass With the p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-p-wint.
Starting point is 01:33:28 That was the shit right there. Then Wu-Tang, Wu-Tang had it. Biggie had one. Naga, they had all of them shit. It was Ice-Cube, Wu-Tang, and Snoot. I remember Ice-Cube had one where they chased him all the way across L.A. Helicopters, police. He's making left, rights.
Starting point is 01:33:44 And the beat was fucking sick. And then he'd get out the fucking car. He pulled up in the warehouse, get out, run to the fridge. He got a fridge. full of St. Eyes. Yeah. Like, damn. Why would anybody buy that shit if they're going to do all that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. When you put it like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Nick, the whole police force was on this nigga's area.
Starting point is 01:34:07 Because he's drinking and driving. Yeah. For a fucking 40. He only had the 40. Damn. And I'm like, what made me say it? I'm like, what made me say 24 miles is that? But if they followed a loco shit was down here. No, that was the second Cisco. When that shit pop over, you hear it, you hear that.
Starting point is 01:34:29 Oh, God. Are they full logo? They didn't even slow down on the Polo until they found out that that shit made white girls start fighting. But the first, the first Foro logo was Cisco, nigger. When I was in eighth grade, niggins were drinking Cisco and falling out their seat in the class. Cisco was a motherfucker.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah. Cisco, thick as the fuck. That's what the, you know, you know the nigga to be pissing. You been on. That's that. That's that. But you know, yo. Yeah, because when you're young, like,
Starting point is 01:34:58 it's going to get you. Yo, dog. It's the one you can get somebody to buy. And it was cheap. I remember my threw up in this girl's face. We was about to get it on and I had drank some Cisco. I was like, I'm like, y'all, let me see. I'm like, I'm like, stop kissing me.
Starting point is 01:35:12 She's like, why, what happened? Oh, nigger. Yeah, it was terrible. But then I seen it on Facebook and I was like, I dodged one. I seen on Facebook now. On Facebook now, I'm like, hey, Sisko. Ooh, man, I don't think so. That's fucked up, man.
Starting point is 01:35:29 I had to learn your reaction. Damn. Digger. That's great. That's funny. I'm glad I called with my shit. I'm playing. But I shouldn't do the other shit.
Starting point is 01:35:42 I ain't do no other shit. I'm not about saying, what up shit? No, I know. That's why I know that. Is that in the main sense? This is all in the past, my boy. Oh, my goodness. I tried drinking, I was an exclusive.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I'd come in there with a big-a-bought-a-excluse. Thank you on doing, so not knowing there ain't nothing but water. Yeah. We used to have... Nothing to look exclusive. See, like $200, but they beat by the deal me. Oh, anything that big for $20 is all bad. Look, don't come in a clung like these little, boy.
Starting point is 01:36:12 This is all big. This is it ain't talking about a net. You said there was a chaser? Cubs and something. Exclusive vodka. That shit ain't talking about it. Exclusive? I seen that before.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Exclusive? You remember that? I did see that. It was when I first moved down here, somebody had it. I think Mike had it. And I'm like, what the hell is this? With no E at the end. She by my DB for $17.
Starting point is 01:36:35 You think you're doing something? He's right about that. And what's the other? Yeah. Oh, man, what you're drinking? That's when you do it all of the budget. Right. That's going to get my fucking.
Starting point is 01:36:46 99. 99 bananas and that? That shit was terrible. That shit was terrible Taka Vaca He took it back to the 99 I forgot about that Yeah
Starting point is 01:36:59 Taka Vodka Montezuma What about the 5 mall Hold up Whoever had that crystal skull With the glass skull It made out the bottle was a skull Made out of glass
Starting point is 01:37:09 No it was Vaca It was a glass skull And me and my man It was his birthday It's like let's get that Nigger we went And drank that shit I'm like, nigga, I can't feel the front of my face, yo.
Starting point is 01:37:23 So y'all one of them drinking that were trying shit? Let me see what that shit was talking about. And we had some chicks coming. So we're like, yeah, let's drink it. I should have known when the chicks ain't drink that much. But me, I'm like, I'm drinking. Nick, I couldn't feel my forehead, nose, or lips. I'm like, nigga, you all right?
Starting point is 01:37:39 I woke up under this nigga chair. I'm calling my garlic bag, come get me. No. Yeah. She's like, I can't right now. Well, I'm a die. Damn. I couldn't feel shit.
Starting point is 01:37:50 in here. I'm like, I could feel shit in the end. That's the only other option. Straight up. Nigger. Well, I'm here. Yeah. I'm going to be right. It been real. It been real. It been real. Don't be right to fuck in. I'm trying to be who you know I am. I ain't know who I was at that point. B. The whole bottle is a glass skull. He still got the bottle in his crib. I'm like, tell the kids about that. I stopped. I stopped on the great goose way. That shit. That shit one turn. No, I had the small skinny bottle.
Starting point is 01:38:25 You know that the love. Oh, you had that one. He had the international flight bottle. He had the international bottle. He had the international bottle. He had the international bottle. Oh, that's funny. That's a little great.
Starting point is 01:38:38 Oh, that's funny as shit. That's two drinks. The one fucking little two shot. Hey. I'm like, this shit out here. I'm like, nigga. I forgot about those. Man, we had everybody,
Starting point is 01:38:52 birthday was gonna tell you. We got the Magnum Lime. We got two Magnum Limes. Right. And we just kept filling the bitches up with bullshit liquor. Did they keep them going? That's funny as shit.
Starting point is 01:39:05 We're gonna tell you that till later. I used to treat the great goose like it was like an ending. We had a good day, man. Don't feel gonna get some great goo. Hey man, look at people get some great goo. And they're gonna put it in. You ain't drinking this.
Starting point is 01:39:19 shit, niggas put it in on the great goon, niggum pull over the great goose and all that. I don't take it out of the brown band like it was a trophy. That's what Belvedere was out at the same time and niggins didn't know the difference? Yeah, that was the same. I thought like first, my motherfuckers were going to belved it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Greg Goose. It was just like,
Starting point is 01:39:39 I don't know, man, was just something by goose, man. If you don't give up, there's no gouged in my cup. Uh-huh. I still drink that shit. Really Goose? Hell yeah. Got a foot with it. But I was scared of that brown.
Starting point is 01:39:54 I never tried brown. No, me and my man, we used to drink, we used to get a fifth of Hennessy a piece and drink it hot out the bottle. Hell is wrong with you, Case. That's some New York shit night. I don't know, but, nigga, it was so many times that I'm like, yo, what happened last night? Right. Like, it used to be five, six hours missing. I went to a club out here, a chick was like, you know, hey, you remember me?
Starting point is 01:40:18 you sang for my mama, I never seen you in my life. Like, yeah, you and your manager came and you sing, you don't remember? I never seen you in my life. I ain't know the chick. I had to call him. He was like, yeah, that's so-and-so. How I get there? It's like, he was there for hours.
Starting point is 01:40:32 I woke up home. Right. That's all I know. Yeah, I woke up home. So you get to, you got to get with the Army party. Like, what's the Army party? Like, you know, you got no more kids. You're firing on our service.
Starting point is 01:40:45 Yeah, but I used to while out, though. I used to wild out. Oh boy. No, no. I used to wow out in the party. That's why I'm glad it's for social media. Right. Yeah, I had, uh, we was at Virginia. Yeah, after party. So these chicks kept following us around. Well, it was one girl. And then I had to go to the bathroom. So my bodyguard was like, here, go to the bathroom. But I ended, it was two girls went in there behind me.
Starting point is 01:41:10 So then we was in there talking. I would tell them about, you know, the goodness of Jesus Christ. And then, but the one that was following me was still outside. Right. So Hadoo trying to come in. I even know this. My bodyguard's like, yeah, homie, you can't come in here right now. He pulls out two joints on him, so he goes sit down. So now we go to the VIP, it's them two, and this third one that was following us,
Starting point is 01:41:30 and they all in the VIP in front of everybody just rocking. Niggas like, yo, niggas is like, is this happening? I'm like, I feel like, this is happening. I'm like, go get niggas because they don't think I'm on you. Right. So everybody's with us, because you know, niggins would be like, you lie, you put something on it. Yeah, I was like, go.
Starting point is 01:41:48 get anybody who with us. Niggins came. I'm like, yeah, then they got the limo. This nigga came, open the door. His boyfriend showed back up. Oh, so you were like, go on with your nigga, girl? I got to go. This is he could open the door.
Starting point is 01:42:02 My man jumped, he jumped from the front of limo and he jumped and landed with both joints out. He's like, don't do that. I'm like, yeah, let them go. But they was friendly. I just want my girl, man. Yeah. I know she in there.
Starting point is 01:42:15 Yeah. Hey, man, I saw you in the club, girl. You, you've been in that, I saw you for a whole hour. Yo. Every day, I'm doing this motherfucker. Which I'm doing that bathroom. You are to shoot me. That's my baby in there.
Starting point is 01:42:30 Yeah. Yeah. I spit everything on that motherfucker, man. Yeah. Tell me, come on. Hey, Case, case. It ain't in the name. Case.
Starting point is 01:42:40 Case, hey. I'm fucking too. This ain't got nothing new, too. Yeah, this ain't about you. This ain't about you. This ain't got nothing new to. This ain't about you. I got kids by then one.
Starting point is 01:42:53 This shit deeper than that. You're out. You're out. Oh, you're not out, bro. Yo, that'd be the foul shit. Hey, bro, what I had to not fuck with you. Yeah, that's the foul shit, though. Oh, what has to not fuck with you?
Starting point is 01:43:10 I'm like, nigga, that's a sale. Y'all got to go. I'm like, y'all gotta go. Y'all gotta go. sell. Be bruh. Be me, bro.
Starting point is 01:43:18 Let the eye, bro. Let the eye. Yo. He said he's like that. Yeah. Yeah, that's funny as hell. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:43:30 Yeah. Shout out to homie, man. My bad. Oh. Yeah. He did show came to open the door. I didn't stay there when you thought to go and put a scrap in the club.
Starting point is 01:43:41 I was jealous. This ain't. This ain't. Don't do me like this. Yeah, that's funny. Yo. Yeah, you don't do me. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, I'm like, yeah, you know what?
Starting point is 01:43:56 Y'all got to go. Y'all got to go. I know this, niggas. I didn't know I knew him. I didn't know him. I just want him to go. He making me feel bad. Y'all got to go.
Starting point is 01:44:04 Oh, yeah. Dr. King ain't died for this. Look, Dr. King ain't die for this. Y'all got to go. That's funny. I don't want to have to not. I would have to not fuck with shit. Man, don't make me not fuck with you.
Starting point is 01:44:20 That my baby, that my everything. Oh, that's funny as shit. Hey, boy, them nigger like that, you got to respect it. Hey, man, let it go. He's just going to say that. He's glad to have it back in the car. Nah, that's a hell of a ride home, no. Looking crazy, y'all.
Starting point is 01:44:37 That's crazy, y'all. Don't talk to you. No, no, no. Nah, because you know what happens? She started bringing up, Shorty that she heard about this, she ain't bought up yet. That's what that happened. He ain't never seen, let me tell you something.
Starting point is 01:44:50 Yeah, yeah, that's what they do. Never seen this girl actually do what he thought she would do when she did it in his face. With her friend. Oh, shit. Yeah. Bitch, you can't even control it. What about them heartless-ass-ed women? Hell no.
Starting point is 01:45:07 Hey, Finn, bro. Hell, she don't even know what she's doing. She don't even know. So I need you to let her go I need the educator She ratting on the passenger sad all the way home What please I'm daughter since you did That's what that go
Starting point is 01:45:24 Oh you thought I ain't know about Oh damn We didn't like I know him Well I'm gonna see him again I don't know him So you and Jake gonna get in the car Didn't he? It's what we're supposed to do
Starting point is 01:45:36 He invited us You can't So you're going to leave I look for you I look for you I didn't see you. What were you when I came out of the bathroom? I was texting you while you were answering your text.
Starting point is 01:45:49 Where did you go? But a woman goes stand on her shit. We was not going to go nowhere. We was not going to leave. He was told us to listen to Simone. And eventually they'd be like, yeah, that's probably what happened. That's how that I go? So you're just listening to songs?
Starting point is 01:46:04 How was it? Yes. Yeah, how was it? He got another song. He bought the job. He said he was going to put me on it. I'm trying to get some money. For us.
Starting point is 01:46:15 It's for us. She's doing this for us. Ooh. Boy. That's what I'm trying to say. Like, in the 90s, bro, fame was, that shit was like, great credit. It was great credit on the street. But that's why I tell people, they'd be like, yo, so-and-so is more famous than Michael Jackson.
Starting point is 01:46:32 I'm like, Michael Jackson was more famous than anybody. It wasn't no internet on no cable television. It wasn't no cable, and he was more famous than everybody now. That's pandemonium. He can't go out. Yeah, his shit was some other shit. This kid shun shit down. When you pull up to the hotel
Starting point is 01:46:45 and there's a thousand people in front of the hotel in another country, that's different. It ain't no internet and ain't no cable TV. When people passing out like that, when a little bit of the window.
Starting point is 01:47:00 And waving, yeah. Yeah, that. Remember that. You know, it just took the glove out. Yeah. All the people at them shows that it was safe. And then they passed you back.
Starting point is 01:47:10 And then they passed you back. You had the stretches in the back. He was feeling baby, that dude, he was like, everybody thinks I was about to throw my baby over the balcony. They just wanted to see my baby. There's nothing wrong with showing them my baby. He was rocking the baby like that.
Starting point is 01:47:26 He was like, go to sleep. White bed up in the bull. It's funny that you brought that baby up, because I knew right then, as soon as he said that that white lady gave him and them children, that was it. That was it. That was it.
Starting point is 01:47:42 I was like, whatever happens that, after this, just, that's why. What, what happened? Man, he, remember he said that white lady gave him them, them babies? That was just like gay. And then he just snatched the little one out of it as soon as it was born and ran up out that motherfucker. That was the next one?
Starting point is 01:47:59 Blanket? Blanket. I thought he had it. It was the nanny. The seed, right? Oh, no, no, no. He said he had a different mother. Blanky had a different mother than others.
Starting point is 01:48:09 He said that as soon as she gave birth to him, he took the baby out. the hospital and brought him straight home. You can look that interview up. I don't know about to leave that one, no. He said that. I know, he said a lot of shit. But I don't know if I believe that one. But anyway, there ain't no white woman about to just get no kids.
Starting point is 01:48:26 No, but his mother, I don't think his mother's white. I don't think Blake's mother was white. She might not have been. I don't know. Yeah, they said she wasn't white, but he don't look white. Shit, Paris Jackson, act like she black is up. Yeah, she's been hanging with. His daughter.
Starting point is 01:48:41 Yeah, she. Oh, she. She's been around The family That's royal, though She ain't brown Everybody ain't royal The Jackson 5 is royal
Starting point is 01:48:51 That's a royal family Yeah, but they're some niggas too Of course But they're niggas But they condition They're like, look Don't you ever let folks See how nigger you in
Starting point is 01:49:01 Outside this door But did you see Remember the town with Paris When they had the beef And ran up In the camera's car And Janet slapped shit out of her No
Starting point is 01:49:08 You remember that? Remember they was like She's missing And they was at the mama's house They were saying, I almost missed. It was a big beef and Janet slapped shit out of Paris. I got to see that.
Starting point is 01:49:16 It's on the camera? Nah. You saw that? You don't remember that? You know what I'm talking about? Because they was like... Newface, you should have told me. Newface rubbed their cheek.
Starting point is 01:49:28 Newface, why do you hear? You can't slap. Yeah, that's crazy. Janet slapped you. I heard Jenny slapped you. Newface. Sorry. Why was you there?
Starting point is 01:49:41 That's funny. shit. Well, you think you need to change your face, the slap face. Yeah, man, Michael Jackson Gold, man. Yeah, that was the crazy shit to me. Mike Jackson ain't supposed to be caught. Michael was a real nigga.
Starting point is 01:49:55 Mike was my imaginary friend when I was a kid. I thought of Mike. That's why I'm glad, bro. See, bro, Mike was a real nigga. You saw that other interview when he was talking about that lady with some titty. She was like, he was in the car. He was in the car.
Starting point is 01:50:06 He was in the car, in the limo. Some huge teeth. And the chicks was at the window. He was like, look at the tities. He was like, he was in the tities. saw the camera, he was like, oh, he cleaned that shit out real quick. That they could clean that up real quick when he saw that camera. Michael Jackson loved Titties, too.
Starting point is 01:50:25 You know he had two boys, too? I didn't try to hide. I think he'd try to hide from a camera that was in here called. You're not recording, are you? He forgot. He did sure did. He's about to get all the way to do. Yeah, he's like, look at this one. Look at this one.
Starting point is 01:50:38 Yeah, I remember that. He did get him on the voice. Y'all didn't see that interview with it. He said it. But he, he changed. Now, did you see, he got on stage to do an award? He was like, uh. He was like, um.
Starting point is 01:50:47 Yeah, he changed. He was on stage. Yeah. Yeah, he slipped up, yeah. Okay, y'all. Hello. I mean. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:50:55 Hello. Hey. Bray, I got a play with this nigga in New York to play. If you ain't ever seen Michael in real life, this close started to it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. My daughter, I said my daughter's going to see it. She loved it. She tried.
Starting point is 01:51:11 Bro. That shit good. Yeah. nigga on there doing the word. What he's doing? Bro, they got a nigga in there playing Michael. He didn't tell him something. Listen, I just wanted to go correctly. And I'm like, oh, that nigga good. The music come on and they got the band.
Starting point is 01:51:24 Yeah, they're dope. Oh, he's got on the theater. That shit, fine. They dope. They dope. They dope. When I said that shit, dope. I be speaking that little Chris Vance dude when they play with their little kid, the last kid. Yeah, he's dope. That shit dope. So, the play in New York, the Michael Jackson. It's like a biography. On Broadway. Yeah, so Broadway. Yeah. No, no, no. It's MJ the musical.
Starting point is 01:51:42 It's on Broadway. Shit fire. It's going around now, but it's starting out of Broadway. It's in New York right now. You can catch it. On Broadway. No, it's on tour, too, though. It was here.
Starting point is 01:51:52 It was here last month. Yeah. And I think now it's in North Carolina. It's on tour now. We ought to make Michael Jackson like Elvis, man. Like, for the next hundred years, black people should just swear they've seen Michael Jackson somewhere. Yeah, basically.
Starting point is 01:52:08 Yeah. I've seen Michael Jackson. Where? At the Atlanta airport, he ran through that. White people still see Elvis. They still see him. And he's 137 years old. Where?
Starting point is 01:52:20 Something like that. They still say they see Elvis? They still be seeing Elvis at the mall. Where they say it. I ain't never seen the nigga that changed his whole self to look like Mark and Jackson. It's a bunch of them like that. But they just actually walk around like...
Starting point is 01:52:33 Look, I got to kiss like a Russian racehorse right now. They ain't trying to take those piss on your fake ad. You ain't in the mic. No, it's a bunch of them dudes, though. You see the nigg. You see the nigg. I met Michael Jackson when I was joking. Fake dick.
Starting point is 01:52:45 I was like, who the fuck was this? I did see that. That's a meme. That's funny as hell. You met Michael Johnson. You're pictures. Ain't anybody taking those pictures, you bitch. You don't get the fuck out the way.
Starting point is 01:53:02 Yeah, the memes is funny as hell. That's hilarious, bro. Damn, bro. Man, what took you so long to get through him, man? This is your first time. stopping through the trap. Don't let it be the last. Oh, I can't wait.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Me, a new favorite photographer for a year. He was like, yo, I'm going to set it up. That was like a year and some change ago. We were just talking about that. Hey, man, we got to get, we got to lock in and get you in the studio with Flap, man. Oh, I just sent him two joints. I just sent him two joints. I just sent him two joints.
Starting point is 01:53:29 We're going to do it. Yes, sir. Say that. Yeah, I can't wait. Yeah, most definitely. What's your social media so they can catch up? Instagram is I am underscore case one. Facebook is
Starting point is 01:53:43 Case Music, Twitter is Case underscore Music 1 Man, what Let me be In TikTok, I forgot with TikTok I need to be your manager I got about a hundred wins I needed to sing it
Starting point is 01:53:54 Oh, let's go I stayed doing with us For real? Yeah, yeah Yeah Yeah, I just I did one like maybe two weeks ago In Ohio
Starting point is 01:54:04 It was the last one I did Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah Yeah, because they're gonna play it Yeah, because they're gonna play it Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:54:12 But the best shit is when you surprise the bride. That's the best part. And they come out of nowhere. It's just come out of nowhere. The last one I did though, the song was almost over before she realized that it wasn't the record. And then she turned around. He was damned at the end of the record. She was like, oh shit.
Starting point is 01:54:27 He kept trying to turn around. She wouldn't turn around. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the sign, my boss.
Starting point is 01:54:36 That's the son. Get off me. That's the son. You filthy ape, unhand me. You know you gags, you tell my fucking to unhand you. That's the side, my brother. It's your head on my shoulder. I don't care what we're at.
Starting point is 01:54:56 I don't give a fuck. I don't care where we at. You take your head on me. That's funny. What's wrong with you? What's wrong with you? You can leave me. Who are you?
Starting point is 01:55:11 I'm not turning around. You turn around, bitch. That's funny, is you? Yeah, she would not turn around. They were dead. The song with them, they're over. Damn. This is for you.
Starting point is 01:55:21 This is for you. Yeah. That's funny. Oh, man. Hey, man. Y'all niggins is crazy. What is this, nigger, bro? That's funny as shit.
Starting point is 01:55:34 I mean, said to wipe you out of that time. And they were saying it, too. When somebody hold their hand in like, they're saying that shit with all their mic. They need extra strength. Jesus, put the extra E and the R at the end. That's funny, bro. That's funny, because that concert,
Starting point is 01:56:00 no white folks say that nigger word, but I don't give them fuck. All day. They did see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No doubt. Nellie ain't stopped smiling since he got a shanty back. That's a beautiful thing, though. That's a beautiful thing.
Starting point is 01:56:13 That's a good smile. Oh, I ain't never had to piss this bad in my life. Man, we got you some 80% self. Oh, I can't wait. Appreciate you, man. Papio G. Good looking. Popio shit.
Starting point is 01:56:25 Oh, yeah. Oh, that's, I was looking for some of these, too. We got you some. Oh, that's going to be in Vegas tomorrow. Come on, Joe. Let's go. Well, look, man, we appreciate you stopping through here, man. Appreciate y'all, man.
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