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That's what he faces? He's facing, yeah. Shit. What state, California? Yeah. Damn. Then they're saying after that he's going to get deported because he's from Canada and shit.

He fucked up bad that time. Oh, I'm on. I'm going to get deported, mate. Report me. No, they lock you up first. You do the beds, then they're the poor. So you be locked up here. Yeah, you locked up here, you do the time here,

and then after the time over, you gotta go back. Right. Y'all was not outside. When this shit, we came out? Y'all wasn't outside. Then you used to be mad as fucking, you ain't getting a drink by the time this shit, come on. Had the home club with their drink up, then.

Hey, it is it, dude. So much spilled liquor. No cap. Man, that I'm a hustler, the nigga, the problem is that match, man. What? Well, able to stay consistent, man, due to the decade. That's crazy, bro. Think about when you came in, like.

What did you drop? My first hour. My first off. Like, the end of 03, beginning of 2004, 04. The single was out of 03, but the album came out. But the album came out before. You was a young nigga then, right? Like, like 10-8-niggin?

Yeah, well, no, my first album dropped out, 21. Okay, okay. That's a young, nigger. They're young. Yeah. What's that getting your feet with? Yeah, yeah. What's your need?

You need an ass strike. I need to dump this one. Oh, I appreciate that, man. I got my first deal when I was 17, like when I first signed a Ruff Brothers. I was 17. But I ain't dropped no album until I was 21. Okay. Now, we gotta get it all that, bro.

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. If you gain for it, you know what I'm saying? That's awesome. Thank you. We're going to hear that shit, bro. It's going up tonight, D.C. I did this song right here because I just came from jail.

It's trying to give me the death penalty of life. Then I beat that case. Then I came home and gotten an accident. Had amnesia and all that shit. Loss my memory was in a coma. They said I could never rap again and shit. My brain was too badly damaged. They said I was never going to be able to run.

Hold on, hold on, this is deep shit. Hold up, hold up. When I went, when I started recording the album and shit, they wanted, like, a party track, like, something, like, more up-tempo that could rock in the clubs, but I wasn't in party mode. So that's why I did this, John. It was, like, still party song, it's still drinking.

But you had through the whole John, I'm talking about, like, the shit I was going through the accident the case, even in the video, I'm riding past myself getting locked up, riding past seeing myself like in an accident, like shit like that. Like that's what's on my mind why I'm doing this. Yeah.

You know what I mean? I can hear it too, because I'm home, man. It's like, it's sound like a party song, but it's like a, it's a nigga out song. Man, get a drink, man. This is the one flat. But this is the one. Turn it up, J-O-N.

This is the one, but. This ain't got the whole sample, man. It's the first platinum ringtone. ringtone. Well, I told I had the church with the ringtone. Why I bought this motherfucker. I appreciate you now. Well, I bought that motherfucker.

I didn't do. I did it without you. I used to go, my teacher nerve. I'mma, amma, amma, amma, ask about me. Boy, this shit was so hard. But the first platinum ring tone is. That's hard.

Did you reinvent the sample sound? What do you want to say in the millennium? In the 2000? Hell yeah. After this, this is one of the biggest samples, though. This is one of the biggest samples songs. But he also sampled something that was more curved. Like, that's what niggins do it now a lot.

Right. Right, because that song was technically still fresh, though. Classy shit. That song was still technically fresh. Hell yeah. The Jay did it too. Jay did it with the guy shit. Till did it with that bring him out.

Yeah, he did it with the bring them out. He did it with the bring them out. Yeah, Swiss gave that. The TI after Hustler. Like, he was in that zone, so... That's crazy. To have a Jay-Z sample. And get it cleared, too.

What? Yeah. That was undeniable, though. You can see, like, TI and all of them, they sampled, like, um, Pove and, like, we'll bring them out and all that, you know, 50 cents, he had that, um... I run, New York, it's the same beat.

Yeah, yeah, I get it. Oh, there, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get it. I get it. I ran New York.

It's like the same. So did Jay-Z help a lot of motherfuckers? Unintention, isn't it? But that's Swiss too, right? That 50 Swiss or no? No. Okay. Just going with the influence of that shit, huh?

Yeah, it just was the vibe. But this shit here? When I had that great-next-tailed shirt, The flip-balled popper. What? Oh, my ringtone, right after this two came out, that's when I got locked up. When I was in jail, that's when I heard,

Every day I'm hustling. Yeah. Every day I'm hustling. That shit's hard. Every day I'm, every day. I'm like, what the fuck? And I was locked up, and that shit just started going crazy. It's every day.

That's not you. Every day I'm hustling it. That's raw. I know that's wrong. What you're talking about the sound for? No, it's. It's just, I mean, just the hustler vibe was, like, so lit that that's why that shit just worked right away. Right.

Hell yeah. Uh-oh, about that time. About that time? It's about that time. It's about that time. I got to play one more. I shot at the city, too, man. In Philly.

With this all right? Yeah. Until I got to play one more before we did. going into this shit, though, this is. Benny Boone did it, Philly, nigger. The production? No, shot the video, Benny Boone, the director. He's from Philly, though.

So he kept it off Philly? Yeah. Then later on, he put me in Next Day air. Like, he directed that movie. I remember that. Mike Yelps? Little Harris, y'all. Low-key.

You were fucking with Buddy from, what's his name? I can't think his name. He didn't been in everything, though. You took a bad one, that one. Wow, I was a jit. Why I was in the sixth grade, what? What? With the necktailed church with like four minutes on that hole.

I play that one, put me in jail in. Big deal. Boy, you was going crazy on this motherfucker right here. Diss the thing of him, you heard this shit. Yeah, I heard this. Yeah, I heard this. Oh, turn that shit up, J-O-W-A. This is me in game.

I'm rich, bitch. Woo! Get change, big chain to risk. My album went gold in the month. That was a quick flip. No, sick shit, bitch. She makes with the lip get A1 in the gun until they called click click. Click, click.

Forearms so I can shoot straight I'm all to make it hard to eat like Two days My flow dope like I go in the booth And shoot base Duce, deuce Discapes in a cool crate I'm not broke like I got

cloned by the suitcase My boot taste I got bass in the white keys About the copper Converbin Crib like iced cheese What's up, what's up? What's up? I spend a hundred G

In here, right, You work right quick. Yeah Yeah Yeah. See him go kill them. Right. You know what you're doing?

When you see him go get up, what you see him go get up, yeah. Right, right. You know what I'm saying? Live here, direct, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? Yeah, fill it.

Uh, that's in a whole. That's smack before the U.R. Yeah, sir. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, I've been on the Schmack for a minute. Okay, a bit. Come through a couple, you know, that's good. They were right before Schmett era.

Oh, the battle rap shit. He recorded this, like, I'm talking to him right now, but this was before the U.R.L was invented. Uh-huh. Like, when he was the cameraman and shit. Right. That shit. Because you came from the battle-wrap era.

Man. You better rap? Yeah, but. I ain't talking about the U.R.L. I'm talking about actually like street battle rap. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Hell yeah.

That's all I did, man. That shit were big and feeling too, man. That shit was super big. How do you get big battle rapping? Yeah, that's my mom. That, ooh. From the time I was 17, I was in New York too. Right.

So, running all around with the rough riders battling niggas in every state. What? Mm-hmm. Right. So that shit was really like that. They were just pitting you against people. Like, for sure.

Come on, we got somebody, and he's gone. Sure. I did my first album out here, though. Doppler. Uh-huh. I was in there, recording. Oh, at Doppler? Yeah.

Okay, yeah. You're down here in the ATL Street. How would that vibe? You've been down here before, though, right? That show was lit. Yeah. Well, you wrote all four of them. You're fined all four of them?

Eventually. That's crazy. No, I like, that's how I think. I do. I used to do that too when I was on the mileage. Shut up, you always say that. Well, where I said that I wrote 15 blen? Back, that, back, that back.

Like all 15? Well, all 15. Three. What I got on that mile and roll up by 20 blund? Back to back. Could wait to smoke all Twitter alone. You went on? You went rolling to extend on?

Well, rolling the extend dog. I was facing the extend dog. Why? Don't you ask me to hit this motherfucker? Facing. I'm facing this bitch. It took me 20 minutes to get the bitch together. Oh, great.

I'm going through some. I'm going through some. You all right? I was great. You know how that is. You know, young nigga acting like he can't dead with shit. This shit with regular life, man. Shut your bitch.

Going through some. I'm going through some, my boy. This shit is hard. Man, shut up. You all right. You ain't know what hard was. Ain't that going on, Nick. Nothing, boy.

Man, you okay. No, but I'm glad. I'm glad my mama raised me how she raised me, because, well, I was fucked up. You were fucked up? Hey, yeah. Long as we had the roof up out here, we had goddamn clothes, I mean, I mean,

long as we had the roof over here. That man took back the clothes. The nigga took the clothes back. Fucked them clothes. No, we had clothes, but I, you know, I grew up on Hammondown. Until the time for me to buy my own shit. Real?

Yeah, yeah. How you feel about it? How I feel. Yeah. Shit, I'm blessed. Well, but your hammondown was different, though, good. My hammondown were fresh clothes.

Yeah, my symbols were older, but they were fresh. So I knew I didn't have a problem with the hammondown because they were fresh. But what was girls' jeans, though? Them were girls jeans. They fit in the waist, but they're skin and the leg. The waist fit, but the legs in the legs. Yeah, skinned jeans before they were out.

That way a leg, look. He had their sister before they was out. Yeah. This is what he knew. He's not about that, girl. Everybody said 501, he won five on seven. That bitch said chick on the back. You got an apple bottle, good.

Lulu Lemon. You got an old apple bottle, but you got an old cat on your ass. Baby fat, DZ, real? You got a cat on your head, boy. You're stupid. My sister wore like Apple One, and she was a tomboy. She was a hot boy. So I just took her shoes.

She did how I wore. I took her shoes, but took my nephew clothes. So he was skinny, but he would like him a little bit. So my clothes used to be big. So I'd take his clothes, but I'd take my sister's shoes. What shoes he had? Who? What shoes he had?

Your sister? Oh, no, she wore like F-O-1 and J's and shit. Oh, okay. Her foot was bigger than mine until I... But they was the girl once, so they were so... Hell no. She was getting... She had all the shit.

She had the Valentine F-O-1. Ain't nobody had on. D.C. got on some kids. The Valentine F-O-1 with the red suede. You went to school with some kids on, I had some kids. I did have some kids. Kids, kids.

If you want some kids, you fucked up. Yeah, I'm girls shoo. No, pro-kid. Not pro-kid. Yeah, just regular kids. No, I had pro-kid. Them kids for nurses. No, I had pro-kid.

No, I had pro-kids for girls. I said, ah, not pro-kets. Pro-kid. I remember, I bought pro-kids. My father, I'm like, oh, no. You got on pro-cats? I'm like, what's wrong with pro-kids? The more you said.

He's like, no, my boy, you can't wear him. I'm like, ready, he's a pro kid. That's fucked up. We probably got trauma from somebody fucking with our shoes growing up. That's why we buy so many of them shit now. Oh, that's shit. Probably. Hammy down.

Still listen to cows? And I clean them. Do I still listen to cats? Yeah, when ain't nobody around. Everybody told you. Yeah, man. You still listen to Arkele? Yeah.

And I didn't that first. and then you know what made me do that shit? I mean I ain't got them out of my my lady was listening to the shit and I was like ooh you fucked up you know I ain't going to tell the me to turn it off that's how I know this shit supposed to be

because you fucked up lady why are you playing this? Right so once I saw that she didn't give a fuck I was like first off this is hard

this is hard this is on this cat is on no sure we live there's I'm listening to your songs. I'm listening to Cashing songs. Sure. Yeah, you can redo this bitch and put some of the hamletting on if you want to.

I mean, we got to find somebody. They're going to be mad at hell though. Hey, turning out six in the morning. Hey, hey, hey, hey. There you go. All the bitches got to be like this and that. DC, you're going to redo the vocals. Yeah, I'm going to redo the vocals, but they ain't going to be mad at me.

Yeah, put somebody else on there and drop that bitch again. That shit'll still go. It'll still go. When this shit can't. It's still gold now. My root key. Cut it up, man. He'll be all right.

If you want to come to my whole cow. All you gotta do, it's all to hurt me. I ain't no cancer dick to say. No, y'all niggas can't be biased, bro. Come on. Stop listening to your old playlist if you're going to stop listening to Cells, man. What, Kim? Oh, yeah.

That's the problem. When this shit do come on, I end up playing the whole fucking playlist. Now I'm talking about all these other artists. I believe about the fly right now still made me crap. Ro boys. So just could be everybody out. It's a lot of I heard when you said that shit accurate bro. Bro, he doesn't, he's, I think he's

about 55% of the record. Him, key sweat, baby fat, uh, what are the, what it is? Baby, baby, baby face? Yeah, I'm about calling him baby fat. Baby fat. Hey man, he's so goddamn disrespect. And rude to the legend. This nigga called Babyface, Baby Fat. We don't know why the nigger won't come on the show.

It was the baby's five. That's similar. The baby's five. You know Baby Fat? Babyface. It's my accent. By my niggins. But they are responsible for a lot of music, bro.

A lot of music, bro. Because he wrote other people's shit. Keith, R.K. And Babyface are responsible for a lot of shit. If niggas want to be real. What they got to do with anything? Yeah, we got to get rid of Art Kelly. Who's that?

That's about 33% of the music right now, man. Got rid of himself, kind of. Hey, man, that's really going to be up to the people who listen to that shit. Because there's a lot of terrible motherfuckers who've done great shit. That didn't get no backlash for it. Right.

Right. I ain't saying that shit right, but it's a lot of other motherfuckers. We don't keep the same energy when it's other persuasions. Who? Like Elvis? Jerry Lee Lewis. Did they ever married a little girl?

Well, both of them did. Both of them married, look. Whatever, like 14 and 3 quarters, whatever. And they act like it wasn't a time where that wasn't the deal. Like, they, like, they knew. But you know, and there are other people with races and cultures, they call that practically fine. Nika, this is America.

I know. There wasn't no other. But you know, that's how they try to, you know, when they're doing wrong, that's what they call it. Well, you know, the other races. That's their culture. I can. I can tell y'all had wild shows before me

because this shit like a battle rap, you know when you're the main event, and you come out and the crowd looking like that, like they're still ready to see it, but they're tired of shit, so they look like this. No, all these people just got here. I don't know where the fuck they were. None of these people come to the, none of these other stuff.

There's about four of them over here. They call time was at six. No, they just got here. You know what? They came for you. I thought they were with you. They're your crowd. Yeah, they can.

These motherfuckers ain't tied. We ain't even started yet. You thought this shit started. We ain't started? Yeah, we ain't even got to none of the this is all. This is the prelim. This is the old way. Yeah, we just talk of shit.

Arcadish ain't going to be in the beginning. I don't got no start button, man. That's why we ain't started just. We got you. Just enjoy your blood, listen to some of these tunes, kick back like you at the crib, all that. You ready to get started sound like. No, I mean.

You ready? We'll start it right now. Jay Wynn. I ain't rush you all. Play me. some pimping, man. She don't even start till we let the pimper play for a few minutes and warm the crowd up.

Yo, I ain't in peace and I was on time today. Yeah, you definitely did that shit. Yeah, you were. We saw you. Yeah. We got the hustler, man. Yeah. You ain't got no hustling music.

We got some hustler music. They had this, man. I know you got some shit. Yo, why you didn't play that from the beginning? That's the one you should have came in with. Hey, why you didn't play that from a little beginning? Because I asked for some pamph from you, I forgot we had the hustler in here. Hold on a fuck, don't fuck with her.

Who we got in this room, we got the hustler. Who we got? Oh, y'all bow with that. Y'all. Yeah. Come on. Come on. Come on.

Bring right. I said, I said, don't foe with her. No. Who we got in this room, we got the hustler. Oh. Oh. Yeah. I said, don't fall with her.

We got in the room We got the horse The Hoarse Okay, what's the one? We got a three-five Shillah Da-Met Uh-uh

Uh-huh Crosset Yeah Yeah Okay Okay Yeah Okay

When you ain't got nothing to say Okay Yeah Okay Yeah Okay Yeah

Okay. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I say, I say, I say, I say don't foe with her. Hold up. Who we got in the room, we got the hustler.

Hustle up. I say don't foe with her, y'all. Who we got in the room, we got the hustler, y'all. What's you gonna say then? Go on. That's when I passed it, Nick. No. You was body and it too much.

Body and there's too much and I didn't want to fuck it up, man. Everybody in too much, I was bobbing. I didn't know that man, but I didn't look at him for like, nah, my bupah. Nica said, we got the hustler. No cap. There you go. No cap.

Hey. These ain't called ye, they just, I guess. I don't know what they is. Chick-filacea chicken, but the mask got a cow. Come on. I don't trust these bitches. I'm wearing a condom right. right now.

I swear to God, just in case something pop off, and I don't want no baby kids to get shot off. I call this bitch a baby sitter. Put the baby shit up, though, and now she a baby spitter. Yo. It ain't playing with her. Told her she want a relationship, get another nigger. Oh, nigger.

Because I'm the nigger on the side. Don't call me when you got somewhere to go. Call me when you got somewhere to go. you need a ride. Yes. It's deeper than rap. If you want me to tell you what I mean, I'm just going to explain it like that. Yeah.

See, don't hit me when you need four times. Yeah. Just hit me when you need a little air on the side. Yeah. Don't call me when you need a refrigerator full. Call me when you want a sandwich and a red bull. Ooh. Because I don't give no fuck.

I'm not going to be stopping every day to go and get you starboard. and get you Starbucks? Yeah. No. Cause I'm just that nigger. We're gonna come by, kick and smoke a couple of blunts with you. Yeah.

Hey, and we don't never take no pensions. Okay. And if you see me, had your kids call me missed. Yeah. Because it's all about respect. And when you asked for that little money, I gave you cash and not a check. Yeah.

And I'd be spinning straight fast. Right. I gave a cash money. No cash out She tried to act like a nigger didn't really do that Okay, and I don't want to get too you know I don't get mad when I talk about money Yeah, see niggas laugh I'm on their ass because it ain't really fun See people get that paper and don't even want to call you back

They don't want to pay you back and they be like I call you back Yeah, that bullshit and I don't play with it Who playing with it? I pulled that better bitch house just to see who she's staying with. Who name is on the bills? I go act like I'm shitting and read the names on the pills.

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Yeah, Lou Gosser Jr. was chicken George. No, that was the other dude. The singing dude. The singing dude. We saw it. What's his name? They didn't see it. Yeah, the ring was chicken joel?

He wasn't a singer, he was, then, Rames. Who was to the Fiddler? Who was the Fiddler? Lou Gossi Jr. played the fiddle. Okay, yeah. And then some kind of way that shit went from LeVar Burton to the daddy from Good Town. He got older turned into, yeah, he turned into James.

He did. He went for Reading Rainbow with the Good Time. a good time. On the same network. Oh, the commercial break. You came back with commercial, this nigga was old and grown. The fuck happened to Cootter. What James doing here?

I never believe that James even whooped the master's a. What? What? They got James enough. That's why I could never see him as just James Ever. He was Cooter Kentay, too. But that ain't got nothing to do with none of this shit, man. We've been on the fucking streak over here and we've been bringing all the ghetto legend

Who we got to guy? Hey, man. Same man. It's just one of the ones that had to be, it had to be had. Man, he ain't, he ain't talking no money, man, get the fuck away from you, man. We only bring ghetto legends, hustlers. Come on, man. People who made something out of nothing.

Come on, man. The best dancers, the best rappers, the best everything. Right. And when we say ghetto legends, that means. I mean like you forever gonna have your name. Your Jersey. The fucking Hall of Fame of Ghetto shit. Yeah, yeah.

Gotta bring the best strippers. Come on, see, that's why you up there. You always got the best fucking add-ons and ideas. Mm-hmm. But you were in the game, still in the game when the shit was actually good to be here. Mm-hmm. And he said he had the number one,

the first platinum ringtone. You don't never run these type of accolades down. down and shit, isn't it? For winning, made all the niggins say, man, put the beat on. God damn. You heard a nigger rap like that. What do you say about the dog house? Right, right.

None other than Cassidy. Come on, let's go. Yeah. Yeah. You can literally sit here and do this shit all day about all the great cool shit you then did for the rap game. You battle rapping now, dropping the music still,

Still got shit, money, iced up, new outfit, match. That's how you know a nigga still got his money. Right. When that nigga match. When a nigga match. Yeah. When a nigga matching. See, when you ain't got shit, you wear clothes.

Right. When you straight, you have outfits. Yeah. No cap. Look at the women. They know the difference between clothes and outfits. That they got an outfit on. That nigh got an outfit on.

That's a hat ain't moved yet. shit you go out on the first day of school. That's an outfit. I thought that one's gonna fit perfect. You don't want to see you in there and be like, that's a nice outfit, son. The bitch of you is bullshit. You just put on some clothes, huh?

You just put on some clothes. You just put on some clothes. This what you're wearing? I thought you said you was just gonna put some clothes on. Did you got on the outfit? I didn't know. I ain't know he was wearing an outfit. Where you going?

No. Welcome to the trap. Welcome to the trap. Right. What's good, man. Appreciate y'all for having me, man. I appreciate you. Man, appreciate it.

We're just being here out of you, you know, just making sure everything go the way it's supposed to go, holding it down. How's a dope story you just told, too? Word. You fuck with it. Sneaking in the bathroom, act like you're taking the shit. I'm gonna read all the pills.

I want to know. Yes, I will Google your medicine. I won't know what the fuck going on with you. with you. I didn't do that before. Yeah. You? Yeah.

I'm like, what's fucking hand in a tonal fin? Bitch, why's your iron lo? Oh, so she got to, okay? She's crazy a little bit. Why's your iron rope? Nah, that's on. What's been up, though, man? Working hard, grinding, man.

That's all we ever do. Fuck, Brandon. Bird. Trying to get it right, man. Put the best project together in my life, I think. Right now, we like this album. I love it. The best project of your life.

What's the name of it? Bars is back. Ooh. People don't even know your name Bars. Yeah. Bars is back. I'm back with my bullshit. So, happy with this project, man.

A lot of dope shit. You inspired a lot of people, man. I hope I could play that shit for y'all, man. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. You know, the people gonna wanna hear it anyway. They send that, hun, trying to figure out what the hustler's been in the safe.

So bring us back, how it all started, because I know earlier off camera, you're saying you with the rough rider, I ain't know nothing about none of that shit, because I definitely had your ring on the church. You know that? He wasn't outside yet. I was not, I was too young to even church. That was out.

That was after. But that's what I'm trying to tell you. That was when you were 21. That was four years ago. I was damn then three. Would you want me to be sad? So bring us back, like, you were... Yeah, yeah, yeah, man.

Three like a motherfucker. Oh, Nicky, three, they... Go to sleep! He was still at that age if you yell at him, he started crap. Your ass in that bed. I'm gonna tell your ass if you're gonna let out. I need to be in the bed so I won't lay down.

I'm like, I won't go into his thing. She helped. This niggins is crazy, bro. That's why you're scared. You all right, that's shit that just let me know, that's why your skin was fucked up all that time. The niggins skin just got right four months ago.

The nigger gave himself accident. You're an elbow hard than motherfucking sleeping in that pissed-ass bed every night. With the fan on. You might be on. You might as well pour the ammonia on yourself, Nick. How are you going to piss in the bed with the fan on, man? No, you're pissing and cold.

Piss don't drive up. That's funny, boy. That's funny. This nigga here, man. Catch him up. Tell him how this shit started out. And I remember when you came on the rap scene with a big-ass hat and a big-ass t-shirt.

Everybody who had, though. Me had a big-ass head and big-ass t-shirt. Got damn chain hanging down to his belly. Big shit was in, man. I mean, look at them old pictures like, damn, niggas were super baggied, man. We wore way too many clothes. I don't know what the fuck we thought was going to happen.

This is, what, like 01, 02? Yeah. This nigga's dumb as hell, bro. This nigger dumbness hell, bro. Oh. I told you he fucked up, bro. Oh, shit. Oh, that's funny.

Oh, you stupid. Hey man, I can't be around this nigga too long, man. I can't be around this nigga too long, man. It's been too long. Yeah, everybody was in that bag back then. No, for real, the big clothes was the shit. Everybody had extra fabric, man. Tall T's, nigga.

I'm talking about it's to the point now if you see some jeans that's too big, it just pissed you off. That's what they all know of y'all people. They're wearing the bag of shit. No, I think we're coming back at a point because of the internet. What we're at right now, like anything go. It could be tight, baggy.

Could be in like any time period right now. And I mean, be an individual. I think it's different right now. I don't know, Craig. I couldn't fuck with them big-ass jeans again. I tried. I couldn't. I was like a size 12 when 34.

12? That ain't even no pants size. That's when I was a child. I was 12. That nigga wasn't even in a dope pants yet. I'm like a 12. Look, that's that. I was seven.

Would you want me to be to 32? I was wearing kid clothes. All right, man. Tell him how this shit started. He won the three. It started in the city in Philly. Into this radio competition called Decipher. It was like on the first.

radio show. Started winning battles for like once and months at a time. That's how I got popular in the city. Met Swiss pop in the barbershop. He bought me out New York to meet his brothers D&W. They were the CEOs of Rough Riders. And that's how I got my first deal, like in 9-9. Damn. You was how old? 17. 17? And you got your whole deal just off the radio shit and really from that intro. And you just... Well, the radio show is what made me get popular enough to meet Swiss Fava when he came through the city. Okay. He bought me out in New York.

I ain't had no demo or no music done. When he introduced me to Wye, I just started rapping. You were crazy. Y'all loved me. He waited. I had to meet his brother D. D came through. I started rhyming for him.

And at this time, I was in a three-man group called Larsonie Family. You go back and do like, look at Ruffman. Rough Rider Ride to Die Volume 2, Volume 3, we was on there, you know what I mean? Little niggas, you know what? That's how I built my relationship with Swiss being signed the Rough Riders and all that. So, I was grinding with them for some years, and then I, Swiss wanted to do his own production company, one of the artists, so he came by me, we started Full Surface Records, got a deal with J Records, Clive Davis, and that's how we put out all the music, like I'm a hustler and all

that shit you fuck with. Mm-hmm. That's crazy, man. Tried to make a long story show this possible. No, you did. I want to hear more shit. I didn't really. You can make them off on the lawn.

I think it's longer than that. You're like detail. Because Ruff riders was popping at the time. Man, you're our DMX, what? Jay to Kiss. E. What? What's shorty?

The Charlie Baltimore? No. She won't with child? Nah, sure. What Charles? Entertainment. Yeah. Like, I always thought she was a rough rider.

Her demeanor was a, I don't know, I always thought she was a rough rider. She did a lot of shit with murder ain't. She's from the same city. Oh, okay, okay. That's what she did it with, murder in. And some early, like a few little Rockefeller joints in the beginning.

Right, right, right. I don't know why I always thought she was a rough rider. She was a gangster. Eve was a rough rider. He was a rough ride. Drag on. Right, that nigga was cold. Now, they had it on Smash when I was, when I was 17, when I first signed to them, they were super lit.

Like X was moving heavy. The whole label was like moving. They had, they, they was like the biggest thing around. So it's one of your favorite DMX story. DMX? Yeah. The time when we did the BETCIFA, it was like when they first started, like, having niggas rap on the BETT awards and shit. And there was me, D.E.

and Max Eve and Murder Mook. And we had like a cipher. So it was dope. I ain't never dead. Yeah. Because he was down with Rough Riders at one time too. Okay. So we was all representing like Rough Riders.

X, Eve, me and Mook. And it was like a cipher. We was all around. And Mook went first. I went second. Then Eve went. Then X went. That's hard.

That's hard. Yeah, but that was a memorable moment because I never did no records with X. Like, even though I was on Rough Riders for that period of the time and he was super lit, we never did no records together. So that was, like, the closest thing

of, like, you know what I mean, having some edge in the stone that I did with him, that BET, Cipher shit. Okay. Eve out there doing billionaire shit now. What? She's going hard. She got a whole-ass billionaire out here.

He didn't know how to get to it, man. Hell yeah. For sure. That's Philly too. Philly shit. Yeah. City. Philly got some motherfuckers that came about that bitch hitting, man.

Y'all got a strong music, like just seen. We were talking about even earlier with the battle rap shit. So, like, how that shit, that's got you going, right? And how long did that continue on? What made you, you know, get back into it? And why is battle rap part of y'all culture? I mean, that's how I learned. I learned from up top.

top, some moth shit. Like, that's how y'all were rapping. Like, that's what y'all call music. Um, it's real competitive in the city. What I mean? Niggas was always trying to be lyrical because we, like, close to New York, like the mecca. It's, like, right there.

Close to Jersey where a lot of the legends is from. Like, we, like, right there. Right. So we knew how to be lyrical. knew all of the slang and all of the terminology we knew how to jump in that bag but at the same time we further south and like in a different place

so we got our own accent our own way we put words and sound so it was like distinctive you know I mean but it's like a real competitive place like with everything with sports with just living grinding whatever you do is like a competitive place

so because niggas was trying to be lyrical and niggas was competitive You get battle rap, you know? Right. But it was different forms of it. Like, you know, as hip hop evolved, the way people battle rap evolve. You know what I'm saying? Like this way y'all look at battle right now, and it didn't always exist.

Like the way people battle was different. And a lot of times it was like cipher style. Like you rap, our rap, like we just ciphering and it's like who the best or who could last the longest. Right. Okay, y'all weren't going at each other, like, necessarily. But, like, you know, directly saying shit about the person that's across from you, looking at the nigger face and, you know what I mean, being aggressive and disrespecting the nigger and trying to destroy the nigger in front of you, like, with just bars, like, not really no flow.

Right. Like, you know what I'm saying, not trying to flow to a beat or make a song, you just trying lyrically just break this nigger down with bars. like that form came later and I'm a big part of that right you know what I mean so when you say you're a big part of that what do you say that when it switched

when you came in the game and you showed them how to stop being aggressive and we're going to be lyrically wow now battle rap was always in the city but like I said it was a different version of it so I was on the radio on this cipher show

winning for months at a time I got super famous in the city all of the big people from the city know about this show listen to it was fans of it like you know I mean the ratings was crazy it was a radio one station so the power station was suffering

when this shit came on it was like that lit right you know I mean so I was holding that shit down for a long period of time but this is back in the day before the internet like now if I was winning a radio show like that

it'd be something connected to it niggas go to social media see what I look like when I'm from learn about me you know I mean get into my music. But back then, this was before the internet. So niggas were super fans, but nobody knew what I looked like.

Right. And I mean. Word them out. And they were saying that I was young and they could hear in my voice that I'm probably like a young boy, but I'm super nice. So, you know what I mean?

It was hard for niggas to know what I look like. So I started traveling around and just battling, spitting. Like, you know what I mean? Challenging everybody so that they could connect this nigga from the radio with how I really am and how I really look. Right, right.

It's a place called Broad Islanding in the city. It's like where a bus depot, where a bunch of buses and trains come to. So it's like, no matter what school you go to in the city, like, you know what I mean? A lot of people meet up in this place after school. Like, it'd be like hundreds of thousands of kids out there. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Just all meeting up in this one location. But my high school is like right up the street. So after I get out of school, I walk down the street, Broad Nalini and this way, not just people from my high school, but from high schools all around the city would meet up at. And that's why I would have ciphers at and battle every day.

So you know, a lot of famous artists that come from the city passed through there, seen it, you know what I mean, experience, they witnessed it, because it was every day, like, we was out there just going crazy, like, you know what I mean? So a combination of me winning this radio show cipher and then battling in the street like that and carrying it is what made me super popular. So anybody came through the city, like, who's hot or who's next? My name was coming up.

Yeah. So that's how I was getting wild opportunities and, you know what I mean, meeting people and figuring shit out because of that. You know what I mean? So you had to do your own promo. Like, I need to go out here,

let it be known that I'm fucking out here. Right. How you knew to do that? Like, at the age, you just figured that shit out? How'd fuck you was just like... Yeah, because... Um, I think the best marketing, marketing plan is like staying true to the culture.

And I found out that I wanted the rat when I was in the fourth grade. So this before I had bills, kids, and responsibilities. I just wanted to be the best. I ain't care about the money or the business. I just wanted to keep impressing people with what I wrote down. Right. So for that reason, you know, I mean, there's a reason why I made a lot of decisions. So me, winning this radio competition, it steps in the direction of me being the best like I want to be. But now I need people to know what I look like, who I am. So now I'm in the street battling anybody that say they rap. Then I told you I got the deal with Rough Riders when I was 17. I thought when you get a deal, it's over. Like, you get a deal and you get money and you

just out and it's just like, it just make a song and they just put it out. That's what I thought the deal was. But it was just a production deal to Rough Riders. Like, I didn't have an actual deal. You know what I'm saying? To a major. So it was no budgets, no money. They had studios that I was able to record in and I was able to be around all that energy, like you said, X, Eve, all these people. But I didn't have a budget for myself or for my group to record music or to put it out. And get it on the radio. We ain't even had no marketing and promotion budgets. So it was like a test period like to see if you had what it takes to take it to the next level but it was difficult when you were around people like DMX and all this energy that's already selling all these

records it's like yo when you're going to get your opportunity so years is passing and like i said we was on rough rider ride a ride ride ride a dive volume two and volume three so we was doing stuff but it's one record like you know i'm saying it's not like me the main focus so me knowing that is what made me jump back in that battle bag. Like, in order to get what I need and get people to focus on me and know that I'm a priority is the battle everybody.

So anybody that say that they rap, anybody that I ever see that got bars, I'm going at them. And prove that I'm better than them because a lot of niggas got situations and opportunities. So if I'm better than them, then you know that I need one too.

So that's what I start doing. And because I was signed the Rough Riders and we like from a, it's like a battle type of environment I said now DMX, the locks, drag, Eve, none of them don't got to battle no more. Like anybody that come through here, they got to go, they got to battle me. Right.

Like, you know what I'm saying? They can just chill. Right. You the gunner. Unless they run through me and nobody couldn't. You know what I'm saying? So every since I came around, they ain't have to battle no more.

Right. And by me battling so much as well. got my name known and what made Swiss want me as a solo artist which helped me get out the Rough Riders deal and get into a new deal. And then get the real deal, which was with J. Records

and Clive Davis, to open up the budgets to be able to get in the studio, get niggas like R. Kelly on records. You know what I mean? Put it out on the radio and millions of people hair it and it's right in your face. You know what I'm saying? So the Swiss, come to you personally

like, yo, I want to up with you. Even to sell, like, I went gold. Like, you know what I mean? I went gold my first project. But, you know, now with the streaming and all that, like, you know what I mean? It's probably even more than that. But from the very beginning, I went gold on my first project, right? It is by yourself. Yeah, and this was not, like, the digital days. Like, this is when real physical, hard copies were selling out the store. Yeah, you don't get that big, right? Yeah, but to get a CD printed up, you know what I'm saying? You know what? it might cost a dollar or two.

You know what I'm saying to make a CD? And I mean, with the artwork packaged up, you know what I mean, and then put in the right place for a nigga to buy it. So if you're paying $2 a CD and you want to go gold and sell 500,000 records, then that's a million dollars that you need to just put into buying CDs alone.

Right. Not including marketing and promotion, not including your recording budgets, not including your events, and you traveling around and trying to make the shit, make sense. Right. Not including your features, your producers, your studio time, none of that. Right. I'm just talking about just for CDs alone, if you want to go gold or platinum,

if you want to go platinum and sell a million records, you had to get a million CDs printed up. Right. So even if you could get a good rating as a dollar CD, that's still a million dollars that you need up front. That you need up front. So that's why it was hard for the average nigga to come out and pop, because niggas ain't got them type of budgets. So you got to get a deal. You got to go through them companies. Same way now. Like even though we got technology and niggas feel like they're more independent, niggas don't got the type of money to own like a portal to like bring out your music right now. Right. So you got to partner up with somebody that own a portal big enough to release your music. Right. And

they're taking all the money. Yeah so niggas not really independent now. It's the same shit. Did you hear that shit Snoop said about the streaming? What he said? About how it's like, yeah, it's cool how you can run these numbers up and And he asked the question, like, how can the artist get a billion streams and not have a million dollars? And he was like, yeah, this shit sounds good, but what the fuck is the money?

Whoever's running this stream and shit is hiding the money. Oh, they definitely hide. They pay you, then you gotta, you got a damn nil, or somebody I listed in your shit, $25,000 for you there to get like $5.00. Yeah, it'd be some unreal shit

that don't even make sense. You get $5. It's up to the artist to figure it out. You can't expect the people that's, Like, in the position of these labels to figure out how streaming going to work, get their legal team to put together a plan, figure it out, and just present it to the artist. Because what do they get out of that? Right. It's up to you to figure it out before they figure it all the way out, which they're doing right now.

Right. The same way, like with physical records selling, how they had that figured out, the same way they're going to figure this digital shit out is just new. But what's crazy about it is a stream don't got... an exact number of what it is like every platform they don't let it be known i'm just saying every platform pay different for what a stream is worth like every platform is say a stream is worth different amounts right so even if you do got a billion streams it's like from where right from a bunch of different platforms that pay all different amounts for a stream right so it's hard to figure out what that that's worth and it's like little percentages

You know what I'm saying? It's different from how it was. Y'all, like you said, coming back from back then when you was rapping, you knew the copies, you knew the money that was being made. Shit, the ringtone bag was crazy. Ringtone. When you have the net, that land

you were like, motherfucker buying a ringtone? Yeah, that was like the first form of technology. 99, but it was like a cup, it was like, the motherfucker was paying a dollar just to get... 30 seconds. It was in the direction of going like digital. It was in the direction of going, like, digital.

You don't gotta go actually buy this shit. Right, like I had to buy it so I don't want to download it and hear it is like in that direction. So it's like the future, so everybody was on it. Plus phones, you know, back in the day, niggas ain't even have phones. Niggas had beepers and you had to use the pay phone. So when cell phones start getting more popular and the price went to where the average person could afford it, now everybody wanted a phone. So everybody got phones or if my phone could ring a certain way, and sound a certain way, like how I want it.

Now I know it different. It's like the future. I mean, you should do it recording their voicemail. Right. Niggas record a song on their voicemail. So you know a nigga wanna ring the song if they should have played. I had the ring tone on my book. That was even the back in the day form of like, you know what I'm saying, like the future.

Like when you had the regular box answering machines. Like, you know what I'm saying? And then you come with cell phones where you could leave a voice message and customize it and the shit just play like that. It's like, yo, this shit the future, right? You know what I mean? But that shit don't last forever. It came a time where niggas couldn't help but leave some type of shit on the answering machine

because niggas was leaving messages and that was the thing. But now when texting come, all these forms of emails and all these forms of communication and now everybody got a phone, niggas just let these shit. Niggas don't even want their shit to ring. Niggas shit don't vibrate or ring like however the fucking shit ring.

Right. Oh, hell yeah. with a ring tone that don't even want the shit to ring at all. Yeah, that's crazy. Make my shit ring like a telephone. Yeah. That's basically the old people ring. Okay, so take us back.

Because like you said, we were talking earlier. I'm a hustler. I want to make sure I'm saying this right. You was quote unquote telling us about the time that you was locked up and you was getting out from, you know, rehabilitating yourself to the car wreck. So how was that transition, going through all that and staying focused?

Like, what was that mind frame at that time? It was difficult, you know. The doctor said I wasn't gonna be able to rap again. Right. You know me? And I was in a coma for a period of time when I came out to coma, I had amnesia. So I couldn't even remember like none of my raps.

Like, none of my raps, like even like I'm a, well, yeah, I'm a hustler, hotel, like, big records that I did a thing. thousand times that I should know it. I ain't know none of the words. I can't remember the words. I look at the video and it's like, you know like when the name on the tip of your tongue and you know you know it,

but you just can't find it in your head. You're like, damn, what the fuck is this name? Like that. It's like, I know that I should know it because I see myself in it. But I don't remember the video. I don't remember doing it. I don't remember none of the lyrics.

So it took time for me to get my memory back and get healthy enough to be able to record. And plus they said I wasn't going to be able to. So to get healthy enough, quick enough, get my memory back and start recording, making music, I felt like it was a blessing. You know what I'm saying? So that's the tight bag I was in, like, you know, not really in battle rap mode like I normally be as competitive.

That's what I was going to add. I was like more thankful to God like that. I beat that case. They was trying to give me life. I was not supposed to be here. And it's cool when you do it. and when you beat it but you even see situations now niggas is losing cases again wild time right right so that could have been my predicament right and i mean then i come home and i get in an

accident i could have died or forever lost my memory or not recovered the right type of weight but i did and i start making music again so that's the bag i was in you know what i mean on that project bars that's what i was going to ask how did that competitive spirit affect in but you just said man like you know but it was with more gratitude bro because you saw it twice like you know I'm saying two times it could have all been over and even though I'm a hustler you was talking about the ringtone and it was a big record I was locked up like you know I mean like two three weeks before the album dropped right so when it was crunch time like it was time for me to go on the main promo tour like to promote this big record that I got out I'm locked up so I can't do it can't

promote it right and I mean and I told you just like before real social media so it's not like it's just spreading around on the internet and niggas can still post on your page you keep you alive it's like I couldn't really do promo because I was booked right so to go through that come home and then start working on music again then get an accident lose your memory it's like damn I went through a lot like you know what I mean so how long with that process I was in a coma for like nine, 10 days. Then I had amnesia for months, you know what I'm saying? But it's like it starts coming back, you know, more and more.

Like every day I would wake up and start connecting stuff and remembering a little more. More years of come back. Like, you know what I mean? Like I ain't forget my whole life. I forgot like 15. to like 18 years of my life. But anybody that I knew before that, like my mom, my name, like stuff,

I knew all of that. Like, you know what I'm saying? Right. But if it was somebody that I just recently met, even if it was like somebody I was close to, like Swiss. Right. Like I, it's like you looking at them,

like you kind of like think like, then I've seen him before or something. But you can't, like, remember, like, where you know him from. Right, yeah. Right. I've seen that shit happen on movies and TV shows and shit like that, like Annesia. Right, right.

But I ain't understand, like, how can you still know how to walk, talk, know how to do shit, but just forget. Like that don't, I ain't get it. So that shit happened to me, shit real, like. That's crazy. Did anybody not believe you, though? Was anybody like, no, you bullshit? You know me.

You ain't running to them niggas like that. Everybody understood it. Not that I recall. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Because I wasn't like dealing with too many people. Right. Like, you know what I mean?

Just the people that probably came to see me at the hospital. And I was in the coma at first. Right. Once I woke up out the coma, I ain't felt right, so I left the hospital. Right. And I mean, I wasn't supposed to. Right. But I left.

And I was just in the house like helling up, so I ain't really come in contact with, like, a bunch of people. Right. Damn. Yeah, I'm glad you okay. That was bad, boy. But my family, for sure, they definitely knew, like, I was, I was fucked up. Like, you know what I'm saying?

So they knew that, you know what I mean? They seen me in the coma, they see me fucked up, and they seen when I woke up, not all the way there. Like, I don't got it right, like, you know what I mean? And this was the time that the record is hot. Yeah, for sure, shit popping. your family telling you stories like and you just don't remember they just telling you this or just not used to you not having your memories so they might say something or ask something and you don't really remember it but you know telling you shit telling you stories making you feel comfortable showing you videos and pictures and stuff and it's just like you just start thinking thinking then you go to sleep wake up it's like closer and after some months I got most of my memory back right like um only thing to this day I still don't remember like I remember getting in the car like that day when the accident happened now I

remember that like what I did before that and getting in the car but like once the accident happened I don't remember all of that only thing I remember is when I woke about the coma but like the rest of my life came back even the rap's all of the reasons like why I wrote the raps like the science like the stuff I was like studying and doing like all that shit came back

that was a blessing your son wow that's a real blessing and you said the two-step came out of that the song drinking my two-step came out of that incident yeah that's why I made that yeah because I was still

with J Records they wanted like a party song like to celebrate the fact that, and I mean, and you know, that was the vibe, like uptempo type party shit. And I just came with like, I'm a hustler, B-boy stance, some records that was like, you know, me, up. So they wanted something like that.

But it's like, I was more on like, you know what I mean, like the record that I had on that project, like I'm an innocent man, misunderstood. Like that record I had, I was more on that bag. Like, you know, that's not really party. That's just like a, that's like pain.

It's like a heartfelt song. It's like some deep shit. Right. So I was more on that bag, wanted to shoot shit like that, but I'm signed to a label, so I don't got the final say-so. So we had to come together.

That's why I did drinking two-step, but did it like that. Right. Like talking about the case, talking about the accident. Like we celebrating the fact that I'm home. It's on. It's on.

It's on. It's on. Get the patron and tell them that it's on. Like it's celebration time that I'm back and they said I wasn't going to be able to rap again. But now I'm shooting the video or you hearing my new record that I wrote after they said that. So it's like celebration time. Right. Yeah.

So that's why I did it. So I don't got a whole new meaning now when I go listen to him. I'm like, I think you know what the nigga went through? I'm home. You know what I'm saying? What? Didn't have to go through that shit back to back, man. Back to back.

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Hands on like that? I felt like that former battle rap, I started. You know what I mean? Like, me and Freeway Battle that came out years and years ago, even before the YouTube. So there was no way for people to see it. After that shit got established,

they put it on their years later. But at that time, before the tape came out, it was like just a rumor. Let nobody know if that shit was real. It was one of them. He was battered rap. Yeah.

Batar Robin Finn, he's going crazy. And the audio. Mix tape DJ got the audio. Took it from the VHS tape and made an audio and put it out on the mixtape. So people was just listening to it. with Ryan playing it, but they couldn't see it. Mm-hmm.

I mean. But I felt like that's the first time nigger seen niggas like, you know, really hungry and being competitive, face-to-face going hard at each other with no beat, like that. Right. And that's what like paved the way for these leagues

and this type of energy that started. So I always felt as though I was a part of it. I was going to events before I started getting back in battle rap. It was always like dealing with league owners and you know what I mean fucking with battle rappers I was always like

feeling like I was like a part of the culture I just was on some other shit told niggas that they gotta give me $250,000 for me to come back in battle I told them niggas that 20 years ago

like when niggas wasn't even getting a dollar like so it just seemed impossible like how the fuck you're going like that shit don't even make sense but I just felt like it was possible and I stood on it like I got offers

they used to blog and talk about Caz got off of 30,000 he ain't getting out of show right now why won't he take it and then he got off of 40,000 he should take it and come back but they didn't understand that I said I'm not coming back

till I get this number So the first people to offer me that number was like the king of the dot team King of the Dot Alki David they got with him and he put together a event and those was the first person

to give me the money that I was asking for once I did that and the views That's the motherfucker with the dog. Remember him? Mm-hmm. Yeah. Once the views went up and people seen that it was a success, that's when the U.R.R. reached out, and I mean, to make it happen for...

Right. It made that happen. Yeah. You're back in the bag now. Yeah. And on the last battle I did with Hitman, that was with ARP, RBE. So that's red-grade entertainment. So, I mean, I ain't really connected to no league.

I fuck with all the leagues. Right. energy period, so I bounce around and make it make sense, you know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Sure. It's hard though, man, that you can actually, you know, be in the, not just a rapper, be in the entertainment game, and it's staying around for so long, girl. Like, what do you feel like it's been a big trick to you? It made me hungry again. Right. Yeah.

Because learning the business, I shi-stee. niggas is in the business going through ups and downs, seeing twists and turns, seeing people that tell you that they're your brother and they love you and they do whatever for you, but when you go down through down times, they're not even picking up the phone no more. Like, you know what I'm saying? Then you see you go through shit where you back up again and then they call in you again and then it's like, you see the shit that happened, you know what I'm saying? You see niggas act like they best of friends.

Then like, right after they separate. They talk crazy about each other Like that bitch ass nigga But they just like When you see how this business is It's like hard to keep the love after time You know what I mean Especially when you're getting robbed

You feel like you're not getting the right percentage For what you're doing or the work you put A lot of people that's been in it as long as me A lose job because of those reasons But that's not why I do it for the business You know what I mean? I feel like Whether I do that for business or not I'm still rat

Because I said I wanted to start doing this since I was a kid to be the best. So I'm still in that bag. Everything I do it for is for that reason. And everything else comes second. Like when I first got my first deal, I wasn't worrying about the business or recording no music and nothing like that.

I just knew if I had the best rhymes, I was going to get a deal. And now that I'm reinventing myself saying bars is back, I'm taking that same approach. Doing podcasts, running around, doing different platforms back rapping and making music and just showing people that I can do it

and once they see it you get the right response because out of sight, out of mind you just got to put yourself in people's face so they could be aware of what you're doing and you're going to get the response you're looking for so that's the tight bag I'm in right now after that you know you

I want to say you want to underrated most respect you feel me that I would like to say because even in the South we adapt to your music ASAP. You feel me? And when you came out,

I was a young man, I was like, you ain't rapping like the up top, niggas. It's like, yeah, we knew you from up top, but it was like you said, y'all had like your own country swan.

You had your own swan to it. Like you weren't rapping like nobody from New York or up top. Yeah. So when you came out, it just struck with us. And I've been fucking with it. Since day one.

Appreciate it. Even if I were three. I've been listening to your shit since I was three. Three and a half. What are you doing like for you, man? What are you doing to take it to next? No, but, you know, the coach had just turned 50. So I'm in the same bag with you.

Right. With legends that, you know what I've been around. Like, when Grand Master Cass and all them niggas was doing what they was doing, I was a baby too. Right. Like, a lot of them niggas was doing shit before I was born. Like, you know what I mean? But once you fall in love with this shit, you do your research, you backtrack and shit that's like legendary, never die. Right. But look back on that shit whenever you're ready, this shit's still gonna be effective to this day.

You know what I mean? Big Daddy Kane and Rock Kim and G rapping all of the niggas that I looked up to that inspired me to want to do this shit. Niggas was doing that shit when I was a baby. Right. Even my mom and my dad both rap before I was born. So this shit was around before I even came into the world. Hold on, your parents rap, both of them? Together or just like separate and then they...

Both, like, you know... There was a group? Nah. I think my dad was like really rapping and going hard, but because he was like rapping and going so hard and my mom was a fan of hip-hop, she just started playing together her own ball. and they gave her own bars.

But she ain't, like, go as hard or take it as serious or when to be famous like him. Like, he was the main one that's, like, really... So how would you say your style of rap? Because you got the metaphors, the punchline. How would you say, what's your style of rap? Bars. Freakley bar.

That's my style. That's the main thing I focus on. Like, I've been doing this. so long I can do anything. Like, I could rap to any beat per minute. Like, that'd be difficult for certain rappers. They might be dope on one beat per minute, but they can't

do them all. Right. Like, I can rap on any beat per minute, on any topic about anything. Right. You know what I'm saying? But what I feel is, though, is most important is when I do rap about anything, it got to have some type of bars in it. Right. It got to have

some figurative language, something creative in it. Something I'm saying that everybody in the room don't feel like they could have thought of. That's my main thing. You know what I'm saying? That's what I give a fuck the most about. Music came later.

I told you I ain't had no beats, no demo tape. I ain't get a deal with no demo. I ain't had no music yet. You know what I'm saying? So I wasn't connected to no producer. I wasn't connected to no music. I wasn't trying to make that yet. It's just about my bars.

Like it's about me. Right. So that's most important. I'm going to always put that first. Everything else that I learned is just accessories to help me, you know what, I mean, get to my final destination. Yeah, most definitely. Yeah, yeah.

But, like, say for instance, something happened with technology or electric is out, and niggas can't even pull up no more beats. Or producers, all the producers in the world just like, I ain't making beats no more. Right. And there's no more hot beats. that mean as a rapper, you're just like, well, I can't rap no more because it ain't no more hot beats.

Or you're just going to keep rapping off the same instrumental from back in the day that's already, y'all. You're just going to keep remaking songs to them same beats? Or what? Who are some of the artists that you know? I don't give a fuck. Even if niggas stop making beats, that's why I start producing because I can make my own beats.

I can just rap, bro. I don't need no beat. Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. Who is some of the artists that you were around that you feel like makes you better as an artist? that I was around personally. Yeah.

All of the legends that I ran into is making me better even before I met him. You know what I'm saying? But when I met him and I got a chance to be around them. Like early in my career, I was in the studio with the goat, LL. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm like a baby. I don't even got no album out, no single out yet. I just like fucking the mix tapes up.

And I mean, I'm going crazy, but I ain't even really that established yet. He's all ready to go. You know what I mean? And I'm in the studio, vibing with him. And I mean, and the way that that shit made me feel after looking up to this nigga before I even thought I wanted to be a rapper, and being in the studio with that nigga, and he really fucking with you.

And the shit that I'm saying, taking heed and vice versa. Like, you know what I'm saying? He's not looking at me like I'm something like he's looking. down on me like he respect me for bars so and I mean I've been in the studio and their records with Nause another nigger that I looked up to him before I even

got on like you know what I'm saying and these niggas respect me like you know what I'm saying we and they're smoking we vibing we coming up with shit and the records is out it's not like it's like something niggas can pull it up right now Cassidy featuring Niles and and then go Nause featuring cast

because I'm on his records too Like we didn't work on shit I don't Work with the niggas that I looked up to Been in the studio with Jay-Z When I battled freeway You know what I mean He cleared that for me to use his vocals

On I'm a hustler You know what I mean A nigga I looked up to doing that I mean I've been in DMX house Did the BET Cipher with him That's like a legend Like you know what I'm saying

Niggas I looked up to Niggas like Fat Joe Noriega Niggas that was already selling records And doing their thing was calling me to the studio to jump on record to Wyclef. When I first got down, put me on records with Patty LaBelle and Yad Clef.

It's like big records. The first video that I had out before my single was big business. And there was me, Ryan Osley, Puff Daddy, Snoop Dog, Jada Kiss, Baby, and me. And Snoop on Swiss beats produced it. So it's like a B produced by Swiss with Snoop, Baby, Jada, kids, nah, my eyes, we puff, all of these big-name people on the record, and then me. Right. I ain't have nothing, no, no records, I ain't had no plaques, I ain't do nothing yet.

So to be in them type of positions, and you know what I'm saying, and niggas respect you and then you execute, that's what motivated me. And like you even said, the boy with the dark house. So like out of all of the people that was on that song, niggas still remember my shit. It's not like I was on a chorus. That was a verse, but niggas remember it like it was a hook. I got a large house, a dog. And that was the first single even before Hotel.

Right, right. You know what I'm saying? So it's dope. That shit crazy. He got an amazing story, man. Yeah, do an audio story. Yeah, do an audio movie. That'd be dope.

That's a goddamn movie you going around. God damn Phillies. Battling. That's a fucking movie. How did I need just went and ripped everybody goddamn. Yeah, it didn't create a real organic buzz, man. Had the buzz off the radio. They didn't know his face.

Y'all going to know me. Real life. Yes, sir. They love to take over the city story. You're going to do any more battles? Yeah, I had a battle set up with the URL. He was supposed to be me and Freeway. He was supposed to battle again.

Words. That's a goal. That's going to go crazy. No, it's not happening. That's going to be diamond platinum. It ain't happening though. What are we diamond platinum. I don't think it's going to go down.

Okay. It's been a long period of time. We've been supposed to do it. You know what I mean? Something on the business side with them. I mean, I've been ready. Right. Let niggas hair my rounds and all that.

Battle rap niggas. I was like in the best shape of my life. I'm ready to go crazy or I'm free. But they couldn't execute. They couldn't pay me the rest of the money. So we're not going to have no battle without the rest of the money. Right.

But if you, if they walk in here and bring the rest of the money, put it on the team, or show me the cash app or show me some shit like the money there. Then we could do the battle tonight, tomorrow. You still with the same rounds or you're gonna write tomorrow? Let's go. Like time passed, so I'm gonna always write some more. I'm always right to the last minute. Man, we never really got your reaction to the actual footage of the first battle coming out.

battle coming out man and people you know that shit did crazy numbers online what was your reaction to it when it got out and the people finally saw it and people coming up you like yo why you do them like that um like when it first came when it came out online yeah that was like years and years after it was already out and i mean even people in my city had the VHS team so people have been white watching it and seeing it for years and talking about it. And a lot of industry niggas that I had relationships where it was able to see it.

So niggas been talking about it. So it wasn't like, you know what I mean? I was like going crazy when it got to the internet because that was already old. Yeah, yeah, I've been posted her, this shit. Yeah, it was like kind of old. Somebody's just not posting this? Yeah.

But I was happy about the technology, like letting a bunch of people be able to see shit like that. Because you reinventing it. You reinventing certain situations. Sure. Nah, it's just that look, that's one of hip-hop moments, man. If it's footage from, like you said, 50 years, that's a motherfucking moment. It's a nostalgia moment.

Like, that's a motherfucking, like, motherfuckers talked about that. Like, that, yeah, man, that whole little mixtape era, like, that bertha just trying to get that shit. And that's the first time Jay-Z got the head me, man. Right. Like, I looked up to that man, I'm listening to this nigga music all the time. Right. And that freeway battle was the first time he got to head me. Like, you know what I mean?

And so Swiss already know how I get busy. I'm already connected to him. Right. He already repping, telling Jay-Z that I'm the best. Jay-Z don't believe it, so this is my first time I could let him hear me. Right. You know what I mean? They heard it, but they got to see it.

So it's dope. Like, I mean, to get around the goats, the niggas that inspired me that I took bits and pieces from and put it in my pot to make my own stoop. Right. Yeah. All of them dudes, they were so. I've been around him, hung with him. Like, you know what I mean?

And they all had good shit to say about me. So that's dope. Good shit, my boy. You're the motherfucking gizzo. Whoa, yeah. No cap, no collar cap. What kind of advice you give me to the up-and-coming, man? You know?

Like you said, you had, you well-known, not just in the music industry, but especially in the Philly area where the rap, every week, it's like every week somebody out of feeling going viral for, like, going to win, crazy ass. Freestyle and it seemed like damn there everybody in Philly can rap good in the motherfucker. It seemed like it's like it's so many Niggas just dropping shit out of there every week you see some shit on the boot leg cab or

nigger popped up at one of the radio station and went crazy on the on a freestyle. So I know, what kind of advice are you giving these guys to you know what type of shit to avoid and all that? The best advice I could give you is believe that yourself more than anybody else stay dedicated and work hard it ain't over till it's over right always keep it moving set your own destination keep going towards it right right you're a hustler you're a hustler don't worry about how long the destination is or start thinking about how long it's going to take to get there best thing to do is just take the first step and then just start stepping towards it. Keep stepping.

Yeah. It's the best advice. That's real stuff. I mean. It's real stuff. Keep your stuff. I can't wait, man. Looking forward to it.

So anybody watching, got some movie scenes open? Fuck, tell me me, audition, man. And I do. And I get my bun to me right now. Yeah. Man, we can do this shit all night. No care. I like doing movies, though.

You do? And I ain't tell myself I wanted to be an actor in the fourth grade. So I don't care as much about the science. It's more fun. Right. But I got advantages because I do rap. So memorizing scripts and lines and then flipping it around, add my own shit, or rewriting the scene and make it doper as easy for me to do

because that's all I do all the time is right. Right. So I'm definitely wanting to do more shit. Yeah, man. Man, what's your social media so that? They can link up with you and hit you and let you know they fuck with the episode and all that. Cassidy underscore larceny, man. Cassidy underscore larceny.

Shit Liddy at Gmail for business. S-H-R-T-L-I-T-Y at Gmail. We need the name of that new project, too. Yeah, Barr's is back. When is it? You got a date? Yeah, I'm about to be on it. Yeah.

That's why I ain't put the date on yet. I'll wait for how much. You gotta get your bars in? I'm gonna do it tomorrow. Oh, let's go. Let's go. You on there? Bars is back, nigga.

Let's get me if you need some bars. I know, no cap. Got bars, let's go, right? No cap. Bars is back. They're gonna do him on Cassie album, nigga, you bullshit. Come up.

No cap. No cap. No hat. No brim. Well, Cass, look, bro. I know this your first time stopping through here. Y'all. Don't let it be the last.

Come on, man. You know exactly. All the fact, when the album's drop, you gotta come back. Cause we gotta promote it. Nah, for sure. No, real shit. And then you gotta kick one all with Bando.

I'm definitely gonna come back as y'all niggas put niggas in a good mood, man. Oh, yeah. Laughing, having a good time, not so serious. Not like y'all got our terrier mood and just having fun, man. Nah, fuck, man. I'll be back.

Yeah, because we ain't journalists. We're just comedians. No, but you gotta come back. You gotta come back and do the 85 with the band. You'd be down to do that? Yeah, for sure. Man, give them about two songs. We ain't having too much.

Yeah. Put bad dogs on the chief. Right, you depend on how you can't. You know what I mean. That's three a half. Yeah, yeah. A hook bird hook. Yeah.

Yeah. You gotta do your part too. I'm gonna do that one, you know what I'm saying. Oh, yeah, okay. That's a hook for a hook, that I'm talking about. Yeah. I knew I said it for a reason. Yeah, no count.

Well, shit, man. We're just gonna keep having to get old letting stop through here and fuck with us over here on the 85 South Show, bro. None other than. Cassidy. No, man.

Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's talk about it. Let's take a photograph, man. For the motherfucking whole thing. That's shit, my nigga.

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