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for the rest of my life what that meant.
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I'm interrupting this program with some more breaking news.
That's right.
That's right.
Return of the ghetto legends.
We're going out west.
January 7th, and guess what the show is?
at the LA form
yep we're right there
I'm throwing up some powder like LeBron
it's going crazy
January 7th go to the website
and get the tickets
or go to the app
you don't got the app
you don't want to come to this show
but January 7 we're in LA
shit
get the tickets
me Chico DC
still ain't found me no new
opener yet though
still ain't found me
no new oven.
Send me those clips.
January 7th,
the turn out of the ghetto legends.
Merry Christmas.
I get with you.
Exactly.
When you take over the club
and get the running along.
It needs to happen.
It's still possible.
Yeah, you ain't lost a stilt.
I'll tell you that.
She gained some stuff.
She was just regular fan.
Now she's a grown woman's fan.
Man, play me some of those great instrumental with the instruments, man.
We're going to get started here in a minute.
I'm just having my morning coffee.
That's it.
You know.
It ain't time to go to work soon as you get there.
That's the thing.
I wish I could smoke weed.
You can't?
Oh, my God.
Smoking the chicken coop.
Oh, hell no.
I'm going to want everybody's high.
Oh, man.
And I hate that.
I want to be cool.
Like, I want to be able to smoke.
That's the mindset.
that you gotta be smoking with.
And if you get high enough, you gonna be that anyway.
I don't know about that.
I've tried to a few times.
And it's always like not-
Well, you by yourself?
No.
That's what you're gonna have to do then.
Smoke by yourself.
And before you start smoking, you need to make,
just go through the house and make sure everything
gets secure and be like, nothing can happen to me.
I'm by myself.
Then you sit there and be like.
I think I will buy the window.
not screaming at the damn window
no edibles either
oh my god that's where I started fucking up
I ate a whole corner of the crunchy brownie
I was high for an entire weekend
I was like I wish shit like that could have me
I wish I could eat a corner of something
and be high the entire weekend
I was just like oh my god
it was just not good
It's not a good thing for me,
and I wanted to be so bad.
I had to start the edible vinegar,
because it wasn't about the weed.
It was about the snack.
Like, I'm just eating a snack.
You're a greening little nigger.
Me too.
I think I was my work from the teak in the dessert.
I ain't even worried about cheese.
I didn't even wait about it.
They replaced it with weed.
It's a little bit like grass.
Where's the chocolate eats?
Yeah.
You gotta get that shit from the dispenser.
That's the real edifice.
Fuck this shit, people make, yeah.
That shit that came from the factory.
So it tastes better?
Yes, it tastes like a regular candy bar.
A candy bar.
Then the next thing you know,
fucking legs and shit, it's like tingling.
See, that's what I'm talking about.
See, my legs start thinking.
I'm gonna be like, take me to the hospital.
Mm-hmm.
I'm gonna be paranoid immediately.
No.
No, man.
No fucking way.
Oh, no, paralyzed.
No, that would be me.
I'm telling you, it's ridiculous.
Well, you know.
Yeah.
You have, which-
Everything is not for everybody.
It's definitely not.
Some people already, you know,
they got some shit going on in their mind,
well, they already-
I might be that people.
Be fighting, yeah.
Those people.
That's, that's me.
Oh, shit.
What's been up, though?
Everything and nothing at the same time
if you believe it.
I know why that shit goes.
I'm like, okay.
You know, I'm just always on the go, on the go.
On the go.
Jay-O ain't got that soft music playing
like he wanted us to join the church.
You want to do the devotion.
If there's anybody with anything on their heart
or their mind today.
Yeah, I feel he's just setting the move.
That's it.
You know, you go to the wake
and they'd be like, is there any remarks from the floor?
Keep it two minutes or less.
Two minutes.
And they never do.
No.
Okay.
The intro will be one minute.
Hey, my name's Carlos Miller and I go to Second Baptist Mount Missionary.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
Synodd.
Church weather, Reverend Wesley Smith.
Tell him.
Is our pastor and head of worship.
And you know, to be absent in the Bible.
the body. Take your time.
Is to be present with the Lord.
Amen, amen.
Now the last time I saw Roscoe,
he had that big old smile on his face.
Y'all know the one, y'all know the one.
Everybody in head hasn't seen that smile.
Oh, that's fine.
And he told me, he looked at me, said,
cousin, I want you to take me fish.
And it blew my mind because we ain't been fishing
since we were little boys.
We should spend our summers down in Mississippi
with my ground.
mother and we used to go fishing every day what lake what lake oh you know that lake
behind miss johnson's house everybody in here and been to that lake behind
miss johnson house and every time we get the fishing good here she come don't you be
fishing that man saying all that to say this yeah it's all been too many i heard him in two
minutes and that's when i got the call yeah when i got there called
and they said, you need to come down here
and see your cousin.
I took off work that Monday.
You see today Thursday.
Uh-huh.
Here we are.
And what was wrong with him?
He died.
What nothing wrong with him?
He didn't die.
He fell off a ladder.
Okay.
That didn't kill him, though.
Uh-huh.
He got bit by pit bull while he was laying there.
But that ain't what killed him either.
Oh!
Yeah.
Went down there to the hospital for the surgery.
The girl left the damn scissors in his chest.
But that ain't what killed him.
Mm-mm-mm-mm.
That ain't sued the hospital.
No.
Because that ain't what killed.
Right.
He wouldn't stop popping them damn pills.
But that ain't what killed him either.
Oh, okay.
He popped two of them pills and tried to go jogging.
passed out
but that ain't what killed him
they don't never get
through the reason
never
then you know
his blood pressure
was high but hell
he used to
love to eat them
baggie sound
but that ain't
what killed him
he's love a damn port
y'all
yeah
I think Ms. Jones
killed him
was fishing in her
lake
I see
I think that's what happened
that ain't what killed
him
because Ms. Jones
did too
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This episode right here, I don't never say this.
This episode ain't for everybody.
This episode is for the grown-ass men.
This one of good niggas that smoke woodtip black and mouth.
It's not with tip.
If you ever owned or purchased a boxshed or crown vick
or grand marquise, anything of that nature,
a four-door sedan, Lincoln Town cars,
or shit like that, Pontiacs and shit.
This your episode,
because we got a real star in here today.
I'm telling you, if you ever seen the movie Players Club,
then you know.
Yes Lord.
Then you know that we ain't bullshit in the day.
No, it ain't ice-cue.
Fuck what you're talking about.
We got the real star of the movie.
What you're talking about.
She turned this motherfucker out.
If she never would have went in there
and bought them shoes,
make the money.
Don't let the money make you.
You know how many people tattooed that shit
across the shit's plate right now.
Listen, man, we got running from Players Club,
but Chris Powell is in here with us today.
Now look, you know, Halloween just passed.
Yes.
And a lot of women picked to your character
to dress up as,
and I wanted to see the girls
and went crazy with it.
She did a great job, right?
She did a good job.
Yeah, yeah.
I mean, I'm just humbled by it, like, for real,
because every Halloween, it's like more and more
ladies do it.
So I'm like, oh, wow, keep me alive then.
Wow, I got to say, I love it.
Right, so, like, you know,
that movie is a cult classic amongst the culture.
So it's like, did you know that this character
would be way bigger than just a supporting character.
No, I had no idea.
I was really nervous about even doing the role
because my mom is like seven day of Venice
and a teacher, so I grew up in a really strict household.
So when I got the role, even though I was good and grown,
I was like, I'm probably just tell my mom,
I'm about to go work for Tony, Tony, Tony.
So she had to hide it on the logo.
I was hiding it from everybody.
And then I was like, yeah, I'm just out here.
I'm just gonna be their assistant.
And she was like, oh, okay, walk
Can I ever come visit?
And I was over there in the G string on set.
It was like, yeah, yeah, I'm just scheduling things for them.
I think that's what made it so good.
What you think, Nav?
I see you're just over there shaking your head, man.
Kind of like I wouldn't think.
I thought she embraced the rolls so well.
Right.
My mic fucked up?
Yo motherfuckers, man.
Oh.
Oh, I.
Oh.
That expensive shit.
Been some shit.
T-T-T-T.
Yeah, she was on set with it.
Yeah, you got to be straight.
Yeah, it's in his head.
Now he can't, he can't go past.
Okay, we're good now.
All right.
Moving on, like, I never, like, not that I had so much love for you,
but like, just.
Well, why, you ain't had no love for how I was.
I did have love for you, but I'm saying when I would see
everything and other movies, just like,
think about the best man.
I was like, look at her keeping up shit some more.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Yeah, she's always keeping up for shit.
She just got that on her.
So it was like, that was you.
Yeah, man, you did your thing,
but that made me not fuck with her.
Yeah, I love how you was in the movie.
And then when you wasn't in the movie,
I felt like you was at the mall or something shit,
like doing real stripper shit.
Like, I felt like you were supposed to be in there,
but you just wasn't there.
Yeah.
Well, you know, I have real stripper friends.
That's, I think that's how I did.
That's how I was able to embrace the role
because I was the only person from Atlanta
that they cast.
And so I was like, okay, you know what, no,
I'm about to, I'm about to represent for Atlanta.
You did a break for you, right?
You're not gonna let everybody from LA
like killing and not be the weak one.
So I was like stripping clubs like,
okay, how they do that shit right there?
I was talking to like just like the most gangster
like girls in the club
that was bringing other girls in like,
oh yeah, I brought her from now,
I bought this little bitch from Alabama.
I'm like, let me talk to you.
You know, how you get her to come from Alabama?
So I was like, oh, that's not to be what Ronnie does.
So I was just making sure that I, like, really embrace who that character was going to be.
So when I went to California, he was like, yeah, so what you think?
I was like, oh, you ask me what I think?
Oh, okay, great.
And we just kind of collaborated and came up with what she would, what she would do and what she'd be.
Because in real life, I looked so much like Lisa Ray, with both being fair skin, both having kind of the same kind of hair.
believe it or not, we are both
pretty much the same height. I'm not that much
taller than her. So the
producers at first kind of gave him push back.
You're gonna need the ass out. I was waiting on you to stay the same
ass. Same head.
I was just waiting.
We got competing asses.
Yeah, what I'm saying?
Competent asses.
But yeah, so the producers was just kind of like,
nah, nah, you know, we don't really think
that she should be that role because they look so much
Hey, names.
Yeah, it was about to be an issue.
Yeah.
And Q really fought for me.
He was like, nah, like, she's killing it.
Like, so we're gonna come up with something to where we're gonna make them different
enough to where it'll be, you know, people won't think like they look alike.
So that's what we came up with a platinum blonde and I might, my, if you look at the
like, I had on heels this high and Lisa Ray had on like a little kitten heels.
Yeah, everybody thought you was like six, seven.
Yeah, they thought I was, I mean, I'm tall.
And I have a tall presence.
You know, I had a bronze shoulders and shit.
So I look like a lot taller and better.
bigger than I really am.
And then people wouldn't have been better.
Damn, I thought she was a lot taller, bigger than that.
And I'm like, yeah, no.
Camera, camera does.
It'd be putting a lot of shit on you.
But it's all that.
Yeah, everybody think I'm tall as fuck.
I thought she was tall.
I'm like, no, you really can't be tall in this business.
Tall people don't do well in the entertainment.
I'm telling you, everybody who you think tall
is fucking short as hell.
I can't get like a lot of roles
because if the leading man is like,
five seven or five eight you know they'll be like yeah no not you could be the auntie or the villain
which is always fun it's fun to be the villain what was your favorite scene in that movie
my favorite scene in the movie was hmm let's see I had a few favorite scenes um I think and it's not
because of the break scene. It's not
because of that part. But the reason that was my favorite
scene is just because
what was his name? Damn.
Now, I can't even remember the other community's name.
Not A.J. Johnson, but Alex.
Alex. Alex Thomas.
He was so silly.
Alex Thomas, and I love him so
much. So he would just
always make different jokes. Every time
I would come out the room and I would be at the
little buffet thing, he would say something different
every time. And I'm like, dude, you're trying
to break me. Because he was like, you
are always on point, like, and I'm gonna get you.
And so that's when he's like, yeah, so something, make your booty clap.
Brank head bounce for me.
And that was like, not in there.
And I was like, about to laugh.
I'm like, get your ass out of here.
Because, you know, back then that was really popular, especially here in Atlanta.
But in the West Coast, they weren't feeling it like that.
So he was like, yeah, I'm about to just say some crazy shit to you.
So that was probably my favorite scene.
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I knew I wanted to obey and submit, but I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
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Why did I think that way?
Why did I allow myself to get so sucked in by this man
and thinking to the point that if I died for him,
that would be the greatest honor.
But in 2014, the youngest of the girls escaped
and sparked an international manhunt.
For all those years, you know, he was the predator and I was the prey.
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your favorite shows. What's your favorite scene in players club?
It'll probably have to be the fight. I said, say the fight.
No, the fight, I got some funny shit about the fight. Like, the fight was not supposed to go the way
it went. For real? Yeah, no, it was not supposed to go like that.
like all that blood and stuff.
It was supposed to go a different way.
And we choreographed the fight.
Like, we practiced and we rehearsed and all of this stuff.
And I knew of my spirit.
I said, the fight is not going to go like that
because I know that this motherfucker Lisa Ray is about to do something to me.
Like, don't give you wrong, we're cool, we're good.
You know what I'm saying?
But at that time, we were both just young and coming up.
And it was just this animosity that came about just because I just think,
you know, just choose just some shit.
It's, because I wouldn't have walked, but,
you're talking about it.
ATL, shoddy, don't disrespect.
Lisa liked this shit.
But, you know, it's all good.
But here's the thing, so we had choreographed the whole fight,
and she ended up pushing me into a mirror, and I hit my head.
That was not supposed to happen, and so the blood came out my mouth,
but it was a supposed to come out then.
I was holding a pellet in my mouth.
supposed to bust it at a certain time.
But when she did that, I was like,
oh, bitch, it's her blowing, but it was like,
some blood came out.
I was like, oh, that's what we do it.
So I got up immediately and, like, grabbed her
and like, if you look back in the movie,
and I pushed her and then I pushed her now.
And Kew was like, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey,
hey, that's not how that shit's supposed to come.
No, it's like, oh, yeah, that's right.
And I was like, I'm like, I'm sorry.
I got to do.
She just got to real, man.
We got to rewind this.
I was like, okay, I'm sorry.
I didn't know if the bitch was 50-50.
So, you just, you know, it just,
but I think that that's just, you know,
without the proper, I guess, training.
And I was new, she was new.
And so shit happens, you know what I'm saying?
And it just went down the way
and I was like, hey, I was very reactive.
Y'all both embrace the role.
Yeah, yeah.
Amen.
So that fight was not supposed to go like that.
But it was tension built up
because the other scene
when I say I run this motherfucker
and I put my finger in her face
that wasn't like that
that wasn't written in there at all
and what I told Cube is I was like
I don't want her to like rehearse with me
I don't want us to go through this thing
because I want her to be hell
uncomfortable when I walk up on her
and that was that was what made it believable
because anything we rehearsed
it was too rehearsed
she would just be really like
oh well girl
don't back up off me girl and I was like I don't want
like I wanted to be like the hell so I just ran up on there and was like I run this
motherfucker and put my finger in her face and she was like oh no you know what I said so
all of that is real it was almost like oh my god I can't believe she put her finger in my face
so it was a tension there and it worked fuck the screw that's what I said fuck this crap but Q he said okay
he pulled me to the side after like our first few days he said okay I'm giving you Jamie and
Bernie, y'all could just kind of
go. And I was like,
but I'm not a comedian. I'm doing what the fuck
I'm doing really. And he was like, no,
just do what you know and what you feel
is right for that. Yeah.
So it was good. It was good. So that
that's the backstory.
Man, there's so many classic
lines in that movie. When they had
Dollar Bill in the trunk, he was like,
I got to saw me.
Right.
Bernie was just a genius.
He was a comedian genius, but he was just
also was like a brilliant, brilliant person.
That said had to be lit.
Yeah, it was.
It was a good, fun.
Childy Murphy.
Yeah, like a lot of people didn't know
Charlie Murphy was in that, you know?
Just good people.
Oh my God, like Terrence Howard was on in it
and Faison, you know?
So yeah, it was really a good set.
It was a lot of motherfuckers in there, man.
And so many people that we've lost, Tiny.
Yeah.
You know, AJ, was it AJ in?
Yeah.
Michael Clark Duncan was in the truth.
Michael Clark Duncan.
Man.
And, oh, man, when I'm just thinking about that.
And all those guys were, like, so incredibly talented
and just really kind.
Like, it was like a good asset.
You know what I'm saying?
It wasn't stressful.
So I'm thankful for that.
Luke didn't turn to set out.
Luke was a fucking gentleman.
But that's the thing they did the nicest dude.
But it's like, if he walked in a room,
people just start fucking.
That again, no, no bullshit.
Women just start fucking in the button naked
and start eating pussy.
That's what he told me.
Man, when Luke, I was supposed to just strip battle one night.
Luke came from Miami, man,
the bartender had her titty's out serving.
Everybody was in there.
And he just lay back.
He was chilling.
He didn't even tell him.
He just like, man.
Yeah, that's what he said.
He said, if you look at, I never take my clothes off.
He said, I never take,
one thing off it's just people around me just start and i was like damn i he asked me to do a video
after players club um now here lizard lizard he had a group you all probably like what the
fuck is that so i went to go through the video and it was true like all the girls was like well it's
a luke so it's a luke fun look i was like okay well you're having fun i'm over here trying to learn
how to dive off this cliff that man's a legend yeah yeah he he's good people too definitely good people
a lot of videos and it was always a hassle trying to get my money. Always a hassle
trying to get my money. And shit changed. Oh, that's bought in the game. But Luke was one of the
first people. Like as soon as I did the, he was like, yo, here's your, make sure she get paid.
Here's your money. I'm like, damn, my cash. But I mean, I know they don't do it like that.
But he was like, yo, you're going to get your money. And just the set, the etiquette on the set was
super respectable, and it was just, you know,
he's good people. Yeah.
Amen.
So could I ask you one question? What was
supposed to happen at Junior's Bachelor
Party? Like,
we saw what did?
What was your goal
for his part of the... I told
his ass. They was just really coming
there to dance.
Okay. I don't know.
You know, I'm not...
You told him with the fight, I ain't know if you said.
I didn't have to see his ass in.
when the white girl Vanilla didn't show up.
Sooner in Vanilla than she,
and that bitch be everywhere.
Yeah.
Yeah, she goes to everything, everybody.
Yeah.
But no, caffeine.
Shout out to caffeine who played my brother and, uh, uh, uh,
yeah.
Stage turned up.
He played an evil nigger in every movie.
Nobody looked at him the same since then.
I know.
Because you remember him, uh,
well, what's the name came first, don't be a minute.
You remember?
In Minnesota Society.
I meant Minnesota Society.
Pardon me, sir.
But he had been being a villain
before that.
I can't specifically name it,
but this nigga hasn't been
in about 100 shows.
And TV shows, and he always
demeaned nigga.
But, Nick, Kane was trying to get his life
in order, what he'd he go do,
shoot a block of him.
Yeah.
Well.
But he kind of got him on track.
Look at it.
How do you get a lot?
You fucked up, bro.
They're gonna count for you.
She stopped dancing.
She stopped all that.
Like, she realized what the...
Yeah, she realized the cons.
The cons, for real.
I mean, that's true.
She was out there.
Oh, yeah.
Bad.
She got together.
But that wig they gave her at the end, though, the blonde.
Yeah.
That was all right.
I think that's what happened.
She showed up in that wig.
That's when they went laugh.
That shit was...
No, but, man, you, you, you,
We really had a classic role.
I love me.
We gotta show you much love.
Thank you.
Especially being, you know,
we didn't have this reminiscing
and then talking about our favorite
pause, but on some serious shit.
You know, as black entertainers,
we don't get a lot of opportunities like that.
Yeah.
And you know, to have something that's gonna be memorable
and that's gonna last.
Yeah.
I mean, I'm surprised.
Like, it's almost like, um,
Pam, Pam, uh, Greer.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
And it's almost like that.
That's all I'm like, wow.
okay and I had no idea it was that it would be that you know but I'm happy you know
I'm happy I'm honored as I say damn if I'll never do anything else but God forbid
did that happen but I'm just saying if I don't have anything else I did I had the
opportunity to do something like that no we don't get to you know for a long time
people gonna keep watching it shit we're gonna write something then yeah let's do it
let's get it I thought you got to be a part too Ronnie's revenge Ronnie's
revenge so you had auditioned here for it or they okay how do you
end up in there. Okay, okay. Now, who
remembers the catfish station? Roddy,
remember the catfish station? You're in Atlanta?
Uh-uh. Okay. We weren't
around for the occasion. That's an all-a-T.
L.E. Friott. So,
there was this restaurant down on Pines
called the Catfish Station.
And so I remember
E-40 had a listening
party, and Cube was there. But see, I wanted to be a
rapper. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to get my
tape, the Cube, because that's when they still
had tapes. So I
I see him at E40s and I'm like, oh yeah, I was like, yo, can't you remember me, remember me?
I used to open concerts and stuff for NWA because I used to live in California.
And he was like, yeah, you look familiar.
I was like, I'm still rapping.
Can I get with you to get you my tape?
And he was like, you know what?
He was like, you live here in Atlanta.
I was like, yeah, he said, you know, I'm about to do a movie here.
And I said, okay, I'm thinking, I don't care.
Oh, I'm like, I want you to listen to my tape.
And he's like, yeah, I'm about do a movie here.
So maybe you can give me your music and maybe I can put something, you know, whatever.
And I was like, oh, okay.
So he was like, we'll exchange numbers,
but crowd, whatever,
never bumped into each other again.
So a few months later, I hear on the radio,
I was like, yeah, Ice Cube coming to town.
He's having an audition for this movie.
They're going to be at the catfish station.
I was like, oh, my God, that's the movie he was talking about.
I'm about to take my tape up there,
and he's going to listen to my tape.
Still trying to run.
I'm going to take my tape to this audition,
and that's what it's going to be.
So I'm at work,
And so I'm working at a law firm, mind you,
because my mother wanted me to be a lawyer.
Yeah, it gets better.
So my mom wanted me to really be a lawyer.
So I'm at this law firm, and I'm like, okay, damn,
are they going to let me go so I can go to the catfish station
and take you, my tape.
So I'm like, I'm going to tell them this.
So I was like, listen, you guys, I really want to do this.
So I was like, oh, okay, go ahead.
You can go on your lunch break.
So I get there, and there's a line around the corner,
wrapped around the building,
like, damn, I'm not going to make it back from
my lunch break. So I'm like,
and then no cell phones. I'm like, how
I'm going to call them and tell them I can't come back?
So I get in there and they were like, yeah, you're here for the audition.
You hear it. Read these sides and this and that.
So they give me these sides for diamond.
And I'm like, okay.
I'm looking at it. And I'm like, well, I'm just learning this
real quick so I can get up there.
And I'm still thinking about my tape.
And now my job. So
hours passed. I'm like, I'm probably
fired. And so then they call
me up there. I go up there.
And they're like, okay.
You ready?
They're like, what size they give you?
I said, they gave me the size for diamond.
They're like, yeah, and we've seen too many diamonds today.
Go back downstairs and ask them if they can give you the size for Ronnie or somebody else.
And I'm like, kidding me?
I'm reading Diamond just so I can give you my tape.
Then Ice Cube wasn't up there.
And I'm like, what's really going on?
So I go like downstairs, ask for the size for Ronnie.
And they're like, on the description that says, Ronnie, six foot tall, brown skin with cornrows.
Muscular bill.
I said, this is, they set me up for failure.
I was like, okay, I'm going to learn this real quick,
just so I'll go back to the day and talk to them by my tape.
So go back up there, and they're like, you're ready,
and I'm like, yeah, so I start reading the, the size,
which is the part with Ebony and the car with Ebony.
And I'm like, yeah, so what's up?
You're trying to get this money or what?
And in the middle of it, I just said,
I'm about the bus down into a rap, and I was like,
hold up, hold up, it's a song right here.
And I act like I was turning up the radio,
and I just was like, yeah, daughter.
And then I was like, yeah, so anyway, you're trying to get this money.
And that was like, hey, hey, can you do that again?
I was like, yeah, we're the ice cube.
And I was like, well, he won't be here.
But if you come back tomorrow and just do the same thing tomorrow,
then we'll send your tape to him.
So I was like, okay.
So I went back to my job.
And I was like, I'm so sorry.
And it was like, well, yeah, it's okay.
And I said, now I've got to go back tomorrow.
And they were like, okay.
And I was like, yeah.
So went back the next day.
Cube still wasn't there.
I did another audition.
They was like, okay, you were great.
And we'll give you a call.
And then months later, I get a call at my other job because I end up getting fired
from that job from the arm.
So I was at now at another, like another art gallery.
But luckily, a girl at the other job knew my number and gave whoever was calling.
She saw it.
And I end up answering, like, a receptionist to answer the phone and said,
oh, yeah, Ice Cube is on the phone for you.
And I'm like, girl, whatever, because it's three months later.
And I paid up to him like, hello.
He's like, yo, what's up this Cube?
And I was like, whatever.
Because I didn't really think it was him.
I thought it was a joke.
I thought it was somebody playing with me that I wanted an audition because I was telling everybody.
Yeah, I was this audition.
They said, they're going to sit my tape for you.
And then, so I got tired of telling that story.
and I'd never been contacted by Q.
So I was like, whatever, it's a lot.
So then the girl came back.
She was like, yeah, the same person's back on the phone.
And he was like, okay.
And I was like, hello.
He was like, yo, this is really cute.
Don't like, no, I was like, oh, hey, hello, hello.
He was like, yeah, yeah, I saw you audition and,
like, you did a great job.
And I'm like, oh, shit.
He was like, yeah.
So, yeah, that's what happened.
Then he was like, come to L.A., audition again.
And so then, you know,
But they didn't fly me out there.
I had to fly myself out there.
That's a other thing.
So then I really did have to start stripping
to get the money to get out there.
No.
I just did amateur nights.
I just did amateur nights.
Oh, man.
We need your own
on a song episode.
Shit.
That's what I'm listening like.
Why didn't you say no TV working?
Like, this is a whole little story.
And we're walking back to the director's cut.
Christ out.
Sad, all the story.
Shit.
Yeah.
It ain't too much.
Did you hit us with a little rap or something shit?
No, no, no, no.
It's too much.
She didn't rap, no, more.
She's mad to get the show.
You're like, well, wait, no, no, no.
Man, but did you ever get to be in a song together, for real?
Because I can't get right up in that in that old school pocket.
No.
Did they ever get?
He had to play with the old school shit, too, though.
Okay, okay, maybe I can jump in.
I can jump in.
I can jump in there.
A little show us something in the old school.
Look, not right, not shit.
Not shit.
See, I ain't do.
Look, let me hit that now.
Hey.
Yeah, no.
Hey, hey.
No.
It doesn't have flashback dollar bill had to let me go.
Did you ever get the music to cube, though?
I never got my name.
God damn, you know the whole movie.
Let me tell you something.
Never got my music to cube.
Because.
What ended up happening was when I tried to talk to him
about it again, he was like, yeah, yeah,
but you're gonna be acting, I'm telling you,
that's gonna take off of you.
No, I ain't wanna all even talk about that.
Like, he just kind of was like, yeah, not that.
And so he's like solidified my life, I guess.
Shout out the ice cube, yeah.
No, yeah.
I thought I was gonna be the first little Kim,
before Little Kim.
I wanted the raunchiest rap,
so I was ridiculous.
We gotta hit that shit.
My mom wanna hit that tape.
I know she got one of the motherfucking
I do.
Yeah, I'm in head.
I actually have a video that my mother is very ashamed of.
Where is it?
Is it on YouTube?
It's on VH.
Oh, it's one of them.
What the fuck they're doing up?
Why you know your shit nasty?
You got to put it on a tape.
Shit, you got to close the door and watch.
You know you're going to turn the TV all the way up because of volume lower.
Yeah.
What are they talking about?
Shit.
Oh.
Behind the teens is real as hell.
Yes.
So yeah, that was that.
This shit, more little than the movie.
Yeah, they told me I was just going to go to the club,
but I could just waitress and make the same money
as the strippers, but they lie.
They lied.
That didn't work.
So I said, I got to do something else.
If I'm going to get to L.A.,
this is not the way to do it.
That's expensive.
No flights were high back then.
Hell I hide, like $1,200.
Oh, shit.
I would never been in that motherfuckerball.
You'd have never been in the movie, right?
God, damn.
I would have got that too late.
But I couldn't say that.
I was like, I'm not about to tell them I can't get there.
He was like, can you be here in two weeks?
I was like, two weeks.
Shit, they can't get you there.
That's the same thing.
Yeah.
I understand.
Key, look, I could get out there.
Y'all got to send me back.
Yeah.
Somebody got to take me home.
Yeah.
But I had another good friend, just a good friend who did look out,
who was like, look, I'll fund you the money
to get out here, and I'll give you a place
to stay, and Rafael Sadiq.
Raphael Sadeek is like my brother.
Really?
You're all that.
No, really?
No.
The thing about it is, like,
when you're good friends with people, it's weird
because it's like, you don't never want to ask them
to, like, really put you on or need to.
Bullshit.
I think we're...
I think we're...
I think we're all...
Me and him beefing by some shit.
Like that right now.
Come on.
You're going to.
Tell me.
Tell me about it.
Man, this is what Eddie Murphy.
Oh, okay.
Ain't even mention me.
Oh, okay.
And where I go, I'd be telling
about my little ugly partner.
I'm talking about whether they got
juice or not.
I plug everybody.
But you know what?
That's Aries.
That's how we are.
That's why I ain't really introduce you to him.
I ain't tell you that, nigga name.
I don't know.
know his name.
And me, if you wanna know, it's him.
I'm through putting them on anything.
He ain't got shit coming from me.
Oh, God.
Right.
All I know is y'all
this never failed, man.
That nina been in two movies.
No, I ain't even gonna say no.
Oh, man.
No way.
Come on.
And then people just been sending me clips
with all the episodes he'd been on where
he'd be like him fuck with you.
He'd be sitting in like this.
It's a bunch of them.
I'm in here recording some stuff.
Some ants the other night,
one of the pictures that randomly jump off the wall.
Blah!
I'm like, what the fuck?
Look back there, his ad.
God has shown you who to cut off.
Look at his picture over there on the floor.
All the other pictures, look,
that motherfucker jumped out of the wall.
So nobody could nail my shit.
No, no.
Ain't nothing else for him.
There's nothing else for him,
but that little brave for that bitch.
And it's just, yeah.
I guess it's just a same.
Anna, wasn't gonna come.
Oh, okay.
Keep it.
I just started some shit.
Hey, hey.
You definitely did.
The shit started way before then.
The shit started way before then.
You're gonna give me the same reputation
as Monica Kelm.
No, mm-mm, mm-mm.
It's gonna start shit everywhere I go.
Mm-hmm.
You definitely kept in.
No, it was started anyway.
I don't just kick in because you here.
I'm fucking with you.
Okay, okay.
Him, it's real touching go, man.
Sometimes I'd be,
because I'd be like, you know,
I'll be like, don't let that shit go.
Then I look at that niggins,
then he'd be laughing too hard.
You get what I'm saying?
I'm like, hold up, niggins.
You're laughing with me or at me, dear?
You know what I'm saying?
Because there'll be a long laugh.
Like,
uh-huh.
And then I see it.
That's not a rare back laugh.
Yeah, he leaned back with you.
Oh, oh.
You know that don't sit up.
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I'm trying to part
the nigga that block me,
you feel?
Yeah.
I'm like,
is this it?
Is this it?
Yeah.
Get out of the car.
It's him,
bro.
So when I had the premiere.
I'm talking about
some positive shit.
I know, here we go.
Okay, okay.
The premiere was in L.A.
And my mother came.
What she said?
That was her first time, fan, and now.
No, no, so I did eventually, once I saw that everybody on set was, like, really cool and behaved and everything.
And, you know, he had the fruits of vigil, like, security and all of that, this stuff.
So I was like, okay, I'm going to invite my mom finally.
But there about a month already.
And I was like, so, do you want to come to L.A. and visit me?
And so she came and I was like, so I gotta tell you something.
I'm playing and I'm in a movie.
And she was like, oh, that's great.
I said, and I'm a stripper and a lesbian.
And she was like, okay, okay, I see.
I said, but it's really a good set.
And so she came and she met Ice Cube and he was, of course, very kind.
So she was relaxed after that.
She was cool.
Yeah, she was good after that.
So when she came to the premiere and actually saw it, she was just like,
you did a great job.
So yeah, so she relaxed after that.
Can't nobody tell you shit if your mom would like it.
Yeah, yeah.
So it was good.
I don't even know if I saw it because I was like just so, I'm so nervous.
I was like, oh my God, what's my mind?
I don't think was her.
So, yeah, at the premiere, it was like a bluer to me.
That was a whole just bluer.
Damn.
And in the entire, like, 20-some-a-years, I've probably seen the movie three times.
What?
I'm like to move three times and one night.
Yeah, it's hard to watch yourself.
It's really difficult.
difficult thing for me.
Yeah. Really? Yeah. You probably
didn't like it how we liked it.
Yeah, you know, you're going to be like, oh, man, look at
that, you know, it's just that thing. Like, they used to be, you want to watch the
dailies? And I was like, no, because, and to this day, when I do something, they say,
do you want to watch the dailies? I don't want to see the dailies.
Because if you watch the dailies for me, I don't want to see stuff about, oh, well, damn,
I didn't do that right. I could have to change that. And you try to change something up,
me, and wait, and you're really looking crazy. Because, like, first half of it, you
was like this, or second half of it, you, no. I don't want to see.
see the delis, whatever it is is what it is, whatever.
So, yeah, that.
Oh, I do remember one thing about the movie, though.
So, um, Q was like, okay, so I'm going to send you to this appointment.
You got to go to this appointment or whatever.
And I'm like, an appointment.
He's like, yes, and the place called Pink Cheeks.
And I was like, okay, so what am I having done?
And he was like, yes, so they're going to wax you.
And I'm like, what do you?
Like, you got to think about when this was, though.
This was years ago when it was like, and I was like not waxed.
savvy.
I still don't know shit, buddy.
And he's like, yeah, they're gonna wax you.
And he's like, yeah, they're gonna wax you
because he was like, I'm telling you, on camera, on film,
like everything is amplified.
So if you hairy, it's gonna be like, you hairy.
And I was like, okay.
But I didn't know how, like,
they were, how deep they were gonna go with the wax.
Yeah, so that was an interesting thing that happened.
So Ice Cube,
Cube invented women getting their coochie wax.
No, that's right this for a moment.
That's good.
That's right.
That's it.
That's true.
Wow.
We got a shout out.
He brought that to the black community.
No, please.
But I was, yeah, it was painful.
But I guess it was worth it.
Painful but worth it.
Because I didn't want to be amplified
with a hairy ass or whatever else.
of whatever else.
So, yeah.
So, yeah.
That would have made it a whole different movie.
A very different movie.
You would have been watching that, like, this shit real, real.
This is real.
That is already wet, you see it?
Oh, she liked this.
Man, that's got to be on the ESAT.
A clubbed leg.
What?
Yeah.
So I was like, oh, okay, that's what we're doing here.
Got it, got it.
Yeah, classic shit, man.
We only hang out with big stars over here on the 85 South Show.
And sometimes we hanged with NAM too, so.
Now what's your name again?
See, him in the future got the same name.
However you pronounce that.
Okay, okay.
Navadius.
Okay.
His name, Navy.
I like it.
His name Novartius.
Is it really? Tell me.
It's Navarrean.
It's Navar.
He don't never tell nothing about it at the whole.
What's the, what's NAV short for?
Navar's.
See?
Yeah, that's nice.
You see how I mess it up on purpose?
I can tell you're great.
Nicky them ain't nice.
This Navarce.
See, what I'm saying?
I thought it was gonna be a smooth night.
No.
Oh, man, it's me.
What made you think that?
What made you think that?
friends who move stuck to me and they don't know you so I guess we eat he called
himself doing comedy too oh never mind never mind yeah see how that's how good
of a friend now I'm like I ain't never gonna cut him up but I'm gonna remind them yeah
that we could all be in a better position
He just said, man.
One thing.
I'm sure that he was talking on Saturday.
He was like, so now, who you think funny?
Who are you kicking with?
Who in your crew?
He probably was just like, I do most of my shit by myself.
God know how he is.
I really put myself on, you know.
Ever since I warned MTV, your mama,
I just felt like I was better, you know what I'm saying?
I ain't never go through that struggle like that.
Yeah, you can tell.
I'm glad you see through that shit.
You don't know him like I know it.
That's how he gets you.
Oh, no.
That's how he gets you.
Oh, okay.
That's how he gets you.
Got it.
He'll real you in.
He's smooth.
He's smooth like this.
Yeah, yeah.
He probably got a little tape or something he's going to try to give you for you.
You got a little real.
You know, he got a few little clips.
A few little clips.
Mm-hmm.
Little cameos and shit.
I have a few little clips.
Me, that isn't like I do really fuck with loss.
He just don't fuck with me.
Man, he better not have no 85 sexual clips on them.
I see the shit after you about.
You don't own.
You ain't clear my shit?
Nope.
I ain't clearing a motherfucker thing.
This shit like the NBA.
You can't even add this shit
without the express written consent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He dead for real.
Oh, no, no.
Yeah, he showed his head with me.
It's okay.
I think he got a plan, a grand plan.
Business is business.
Okay.
No, it's a grand plan.
It's something good, something great.
Yeah, I've seen him on the road with some more people and everything.
Oh.
Yeah, he didn't mention that.
Okay.
That's how long he cut me off, though.
He don't know.
He don't know.
Never tell the whole side of the story.
And now.
Look, I'm trying to squash you.
I said, hey, Lose, I hope you're having a good day.
Like that shit.
Hey, man.
Hey, man.
Red.
Red.
Cap.
I'm on the all his Instagram picture.
Cap.
And like, he doesn't turn the whole community
that gets me a beat.
No, no, I'm dad.
I can be on a different type of post.
And I make a little comment,
and somebody might come.
That's fucked up.
I love this shit.
I love this shit.
I love this shit.
Look, this real talk.
I want somebody paid.
They had lost somebody.
I was like, I'm praying for you.
You sure weren't praying for Lothman.
You were talking.
What the fuck?
No way.
Don't want to eat.
So take away my codolas for somebody else.
I take him in.
Yes.
I love it.
And that's what type of people follow him.
That's the Lothai.
I love it.
I love it.
They'd be debating the shit on Facebook.
Hey, man, him and Lowe's done let that go.
I jump right under that.
No, the fuck, we ain't.
No, we ain't.
I don't forgive nothing or nobody.
You did any wrong, and I'm going to keep bringing it up.
Oh, I'm going to keep bringing it up.
Whatever.
We're going to be 79, sitting at the barbershop,
arguing about this shit.
But y'all will still be friends.
We're taking this one to the dirt.
He said 79, y'all still.
I know.
That man, he's going to.
Hey.
I feel like one night he gonna be on their liquor
and he gonna want me.
The wife ain't burning this shit up.
Man, fuck that, man, fuck God.
Hell, cool out, cool out.
No, let him go, goddamn.
Let him go.
He can't talk if you hold him and let him go.
Ain't nothing like that old black man argument, boy.
Especially when they're about to fight.
Let him go, motherfuck.
This is my house.
Okay.
I gotta say that.
What's out of time you grew up from?
So I was born here in Atlanta, but I was raised in California.
And I came back here in 93.
You already grown?
Yeah.
So yeah, you ain't gonna go to high school or nothing here.
No, I went to high school here one year, but I went to a school that nobody heard.
It was called Woodland.
Woodland High School, Albaugh Greenbrier.
And that's what I'm saying?
Nobody, everybody's like, well, what?
I don't know that school.
That shit wasn't laying on.
It must not have.
All I know is, like, I think our competition was, like, Southwest.
Is that a school?
Southwest to Cal?
Yeah.
Like, somebody, like, I don't know.
Anyway, it was like nine months.
I went to the school, whatever.
Then that was it.
Yeah, I went to one year.
Then I went back to California.
My mom was like, no, come back.
And so, yeah.
Then I came back in 93 and been here since then.
Yeah.
Oh, so after the movie, you came back?
No, I was here before.
the movie. Yeah, I'm saying after you went out
to shoot the movie, you didn't stay.
Yeah, yeah. You know a lot of people get caught up
and stand. Well, I was bi-coastal for a while
while I could afford it,
but then I had to come back
and strip some more to get my money back up.
No, I'm just kidding.
Shit, stripping in 93, and Atlanta was so profitably.
Some of them women don't even work
to this day. Okay, okay.
Look, strawberry, white chocolate ice.
What was your name?
When I danced?
Oh, gosh, what was my name?
Oh, Sparkle.
Probably had a few of them.
I did have a few.
Sparkle was one of them.
Most strippers got like a real name.
That's a fake name, a stage name, an alternate name.
And the name she used to strip under in her old city.
You got to have a lot of names.
You got to have a few different identities.
I wasn't a real stripper then because I had like my name.
It's just that name.
Oh, just one state.
He didn't go there's a real name.
No, I didn't do it long enough.
either. I think, you know, I was like, I was like, that was like
a part-time job, because I would still be working at the law firm
and then working at the strip club in the evening.
Because I was like, I'm about to buy a house.
Oh, you were on a day shift? No, I had to work during the day, so I was on
night shift. And I remember I bumped into one of my, like, co-workers
is the club, and I was like, Joe, don't you say shit.
Shit, he's a ass and that.
Yeah. But it's different. He's a patron.
Them Joe will be like that.
But he was like, I ain't gonna say nothing.
I'm gonna just come back.
When you work again?
Hey, that's not.
Couldn't keep Joe at the office after that.
Hey, y'all, you gonna get some lunch or something?
We think you're Chinese.
We think in Chinese.
Joe to do it at the office point when he told, hey, Chinese.
But let me say this.
See, if I was on Jason, I should have been.
Take that how you want to.
I was not one of the, like, dedicated dancers.
It's all right.
You have to keep in mind, this is at the height of Atlanta stripping,
brother.
93 is the golden era.
Michael Jordan and was in the club then.
Yeah.
I thought I should have been on day shift.
93.
Yeah, Dominique Wilkins might pull up.
DeYoung.
Yeah.
Oh, fuck.
The Kimbe.
All them niggas.
Yeah.
Anthony Mason.
I met Tupac.
Tupac.
You met.
This nigga lit up.
Tupac.
Yeah.
What song did you dance to for Tupac?
What was he drinking?
And then I worked at a club called Dinners and Pearls.
I worked as a waitress there.
No, hold on.
Were they smoking good weed or were just for me?
But you wanted to know, too.
You asked him about too pop too.
Yeah, because you didn't brought it up already.
Tubebite.
Did you say, was who smoking good weed?
Who was smoking good weed in 93?
Snoop.
Snoop had good weed in 93?
I think so.
So in 93, Snoop and Dre, they was at you.
So in 93, Snoop and Dre, they was,
and everybody else smoking boo, shit.
Nothing, everybody else.
And let me say, you're asking me,
I'm not a, I can smell it.
But yeah, I could smell it.
And then, I, you know, I can see the difference in highs.
You know what I'm saying?
I knew people that was high feeling great,
and then people that was high, it was like,
damn, I don't know how, fuck I mean.
You know, the difference.
Damn, that's a long time to be.
be like holding on just some good weed.
30 years.
Yeah.
Plus.
Yeah.
Good weed.
Good weed.
A consistent plug for 30 years?
Yeah.
You got to really keep your ear to the street.
Hey, man, you try to get him some bad weed.
But you got to think about it as Snoop.
So I think people with good weed look for him.
Hey, I can give him weed.
I don't give a fuck how good my weed is.
It's like an offering.
If Snoop is a ring.
I'm never pulling my weed out.
No, I would never.
What I look like showing up with some weed
to smoke with Snoop?
Nope.
Show me what you got, big homie.
Man, I don't give a fuck what it is.
Sell me some of yours.
I know your shit better than man.
Even if it's the best weed in the world,
Snoop got some shit that they just finished working on.
He's going to tell you.
This is the only true.
I got some of that do it fluid.
I got some of that dude fluid.
Yeah.
Probably so.
Just like that.
But I don't know if pot smoked weed.
I never saw him smoke either, but he would drink.
He smoked a lot of weed.
He smoked cigarettes.
I know that.
Yeah.
He was a smoker.
Okay.
Yeah, I saw cigarettes and drink,
but I never seen him smoking.
Yeah, he liked weed a lot.
Yeah.
That's cold, though.
And bowling.
He liked to bowl.
Nobody knew that.
No.
That's a random Tupac fact for your ass.
This nigga of hell got his own bowling shoes and all.
No, not that deep, but he didn't like to ball.
Yeah.
It's like one of his little things he liked to do.
He never rocked nobody.
I'm only three.
Niggas come and bowl with me now.
You're gonna roll a strike.
La-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da.
Yeah, I wouldn't bow.
Fingers in the hole like they're a pussy.
No, stop, stop.
All right.
Man, Lord, you're the funnier,
I know, man.
Too bad, you don't tell nobody else.
Too bad, you don't tell nobody else.
It's all good, man.
I'm really about to just, you know what?
You know what?
You know what, y'all are you?
No, man, because she's going to be in the coming.
with the rest of the Lowe's high now.
Man, she came to see me at Cats, man.
She ain't fucking with y'all, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Fuck you're talking about.
I see how it is, bro.
I see how it is, man.
Y'all get on and just forget who you're real friends are.
I'm still with you, bro.
You ain't, it ain't because you want to be.
It's because they, yeah, when the movement was over, it was over.
I realized there's no.
Yeah, you turn your back on me
and try to come back.
What should you let me back?
Man, because I don't never want that karma.
I know what God do to people who try to punish.
It's not up to me to punish you.
That's the word.
Now, all I try to do is bring you around some real love
so you know what it feels like.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
So tell us, how was it when you were on the movie set?
I do think about my 85 shop.
I'm all here this shit.
Good answer.
Good.
I love it.
Whatever, man.
We're proud of that nigga.
He's proud of it, man.
He does his thing.
You know.
But, you know, I don't never want him to get ahead of himself.
I don't care how successful he get.
I still want him to live with the guilt.
Yeah.
That's it.
That's enough payback for me.
They just, they just so.
out in Greensboro, 12,500 people.
Yeah, I saw that.
Guess who we let go up before we even got out there?
Oh!
Yeah, yeah.
He shot his whole little 30 minutes special.
They couldn't get this nigga out straight.
They in the back.
Nah!
Nah!
Nah!
Niggins making up a name.
Ain't damn short for nudge.
Magic!
So, when's your special come out?
It ain't.
Camera wasn't anymore.
We'll record this part.
Gonna kill the battery before we get up, the hell, no.
Oh, SIM card for it.
What?
We got 30 minutes or now.
No, delete all that shit.
You got out.
You have no footage.
You have no footage.
I said, like how you said by the daily,
I'm like, let me see the daily.
There ain't no daylies.
It started off with cat introducing them.
That what the shit started.
I make sure they record his shit.
I make the cameraman come in there and record me walking to the state.
There ain't no,
when you're none of our airs equipment on this nigga, man.
Nothing.
If he wanted to record it, he can sit his phone down.
Oh, man.
No, I heard he had already signed a little dizzle.
with somebody else that's a recording special.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, they're gonna put it on the YouTube channel form.
Congratulations.
Yeah.
He just signed all the rights away.
I tried to buy them back, but he didn't sign for about $7,500 up front.
Okay.
We're gonna celebrate all wins.
That's a win, okay?
No, that ain't no win.
Okay, all right.
All right.
They own his middle name, everything.
Damn.
I didn't want to read all that shit, man.
13 pages alone.
They gave him a one-hated deal.
Oh, no.
He only go get half the money.
Half of the 75?
Yeah.
Okay.
So after the movie had dropped, right away,
like what you were like, I'm gonna go full throttle
with his ass.
Nope, she went back to rapping and stripping.
You still trying to get your tape off?
No, that's when she made the video on the tape.
No, I did that before I did that.
We should sell it as an NFT.
You probably get some wrecks with that bitch about now.
No, I'm telling you.
No, honestly, it'd be funny.
A one of one?
Yeah.
Then somebody's going to have to transpose it from.
From that, from VHS to, yeah, sucker.
I'm going to go USB dry.
Yeah.
Bump it up.
Yeah, hey, it's a thought.
I got it.
I got it.
Got it.
Block the dust.
What if the tape come on and she had won
Jake Steve parties.
Who?
The rapping niggas, my name is Jake Steve.
I don't know him.
I do.
Everybody who watched this shit know who Jake Steve is.
All the old-haired niggins do.
Look how he was like, oh Jake.
Jake was a fool, man.
The nigga had a bunch of porno movies and he used to rap.
They used to drop videos in between the scene.
Okay, gotcha.
So he's a legend in the hood.
Okay, got it.
Yeah.
Freaks, holes and flows.
He had a lot of movies, and they had crazy titans.
It'd be like, Merry Christmas bitch,
and then here had like, it's a shit like, it was stupid.
He was like a little modern day dolomite-ish type of thing.
Okay, got it.
But it was hardcore.
Yeah, that's hardcore.
Yeah.
Booty talking shit.
It's an error, speaking to my constituents.
Yeah.
What you've been working on recently, man?
And where can these people catch up with you
and follow you and find you?
and find you.
You know.
Because everybody's been looking for their favorite players club movie character.
Yes.
I'm telling you that just still, like I said, it blows my mind.
So I do still act and I'm doing like right now streaming on BET Plus is all the queensmen with Eva Marcel.
And I play.
Oh, I love.
So it's like a male players club.
So it's about a male strip club and she is the kind of
of like the madam per se of the strip club, Eva is.
And like I said, I play her sister.
I'm not a skill, but no, no, let me say this.
It's really a good show.
It's a really good show.
And I was nervous going into it doing it
because, you know, I hadn't worked with any of those people before.
And it just was a lot of dynamics.
It was during quarantine.
I had to quarantine the Tyler Perry Studios
the whole entire time.
And so it just, you don't have an opportunity
you really interact with people and we shot it quick.
Yeah.
But it came out, it came out really well.
So, and I'm sure we're gonna be getting a season two.
So you have to look for that.
If you haven't seen, you guys.
Thank you, thank you.
I thought this show was for women.
Yeah, but no, and Eva's dynamited as well.
So, and it's interesting, our dynamic is really interesting.
It's like, it is like some Diamond Ronnie type of thing,
but we're sisters, so.
And it's a male strip club?
It's a male strip club.
but it's not, it's not focused on that.
I will say that.
So it is, it is eye candy in there for the men.
So I don't, don't be scared.
For the what?
For the men, like, you know,
because it's beautiful women in it.
Oh, okay, okay.
You know, it's not, no.
You need to break them sentences.
No, no, no.
Let me, let me be very clear.
I'm going to say, yeah, I'm going to get counsel.
Don't get the council, please.
No, me.
I'm going to say some crazy.
No.
No, no, no, not that kind of eye candy, it all for the men.
That is for the women, and the men who like that.
But it's, you know, it's more to the story than just this male strip club.
I would say that.
There's some really good acting and all that.
And just fast forward past those parts because, you know.
No, I'm just going to just let them hell that, man.
Like you said, everything ain't for everybody.
Everything and for everybody.
Man, let them people enjoy their show.
Yeah.
But yeah.
We'll be watching Jake Steed or somebody.
I'm going to support you, but I just go back and I just go back.
I'm sure, I appreciate it.
I appreciate it.
So yeah, so that, and then I do a lot of behind the scenes work.
Like I said, I've been doing that since before Players Club, though.
And a lot of people don't know that.
So right now, I'm working on Atlanta.
And yeah, yeah, it's very cool, it's cool, you know.
And I didn't know you was really from the city.
Like, yeah.
I'm really from Atlanta.
And I love, I have a love, just a straight up love for this city.
like that's another reason why I never just totally went to L.A. or any other place, because
even with Players Club, if you think about it, during that time, I was probably one of the first
black actresses to do something major and film like that. Besides Jasmine Guy, Jasmine Guy did.
I think she did Harlem Knights probably right before that. So, but just to take that chance and I was
like, I got a rap for the city. Like, I can't just be corny. Yeah. So yeah, so I'm glad it came
out well and, you know, that I was able to do that. So, and do it from being.
you're right here.
Yeah.
So that's that.
Well, there you have it, folks.
Another one in the books,
the legendary Miss Christopal.
I meant to bring you all a copy of my book.
I thought I had a copy of my book called Sexapes.
And so it's this book that I wrote.
And because I love to cook.
And so it's like erotic stories and recipes.
And so my ass is on the cover.
Yeah, shit.
I want to support.
I want to bring you back a copy.
y'all have to bring you guys back up.
I was like, oh, where's my book?
What's one of the recipes in there?
So one of the recipes is fruit pizza.
And so what I'll do is I break down this recipe,
like how you make a fruit pizza,
and then I'll say what the recipe reminds me of.
And so that recipe reminds me of when I lost my virginity,
and then I tell a story about how I lost my virginity.
Then I have another recipe in there.
Can I read this story?
Can you put your freaking out of here, can't.
I don't know, I can.
Can you listen to audio food?
Can't tell everybody.
What are you?
Tell you lots of virginity.
Now, what the pizza tastes like?
Fruit pizza.
And there's, and there's,
there are pictures in there.
There are pictures in there.
Before I believe-
I love the book.
I know.
I'm so mad at myself.
Because here's the thing.
This is how I tested
if the book would be good.
You sure you ain't got the book?
I'm positive and I'm so mad
because I had a book in a freaking bag.
It might be one in your trunk.
This is about me.
This is about, this is what happens when we work.
Like I said,
I came here straight from work, right?
So I leave work.
When I leave for work, it's dark.
And when I get home, it's dark.
That's what it is about working behind the scenes of production.
So I was like, okay, I got this.
I got this.
I got what I'm going to change into.
Or I would have came in here in a dickie suit
because that's like what I always wear the work.
Like Cleo or something.
Yeah, so I'm like, I can't wear a dickie suit
because they're going to be like,
what the head is you doing anything with the dick.
We need to want whatever.
Yeah.
So I was like, I forgot my damn books.
I know that we're right there on the table.
And I was like,
But I came here, I was like, what are my book?
Damn, I forgot the books.
I'm mad about the book.
Yeah, so I'm going to bring the books.
Okay, I'm going to bring the books.
I'll drop them off so then, you know, it can have me back.
Like, you know, after season two of all the Queen's Men or something like that,
and then we'll talk, and we can talk about the book.
Okay, but how I tested the book out, and I said,
I'm going to give it to a basketball player.
I'm going to give it to a housewife, and if they both read it,
then I know that it'll sell.
So they both got through the book.
Where is it available?
On Amazon, you get off Amazon.
Barnes and Noble.com, so it's online yet.
Okay, good.
Well, send us the link and we'll post it
so people can know exactly how to get fruit pizza
and their virginity bag.
What's another meal?
Another meal is a Ritzie, and so it's a ritz cracker
and it's cream cheese with caviar and tomato and olive.
And I know it sounds crazy, but this rich guy taught me how to make it.
And like, if you're drinking or you're getting fucked up,
You make this and just take a bite of it.
It's so damn good.
It's like amazing.
So then my story about it is like I talk about how like you could be attracted to somebody,
not just because of their money or how they look, but it because they're charming.
And I call it like the ritzie because he was rich and taught me how to make it.
But so it's like all these stories.
And then it says how I met this dude and how I, you know, how I interact with him.
And, you know, it's very interesting.
I learned a book interesting.
He ain't really, it ain't no meal caught my eye yet.
Okay.
else you want to know about.
I have a potato salad.
It's called a trusted potato salad.
You got nothing with no meat.
Yeah, I got meat in there.
I got some meat in there.
I'm talking to a female, can?
Got something with some man in there.
Yeah, like, yeah.
Can you two own that, immature-ass shit?
I'm talking about, oh.
I'm talking to a female.
He told me to say, but let me tell you,
let me tell you why it's not like a lot of meat recipes in there.
Because the recipes in there really honestly
remind me of something.
something sexual that I did or I experienced.
And so it's like, I ain't gonna like,
oh, well, steak, and so you know,
I remember when this nigga was like, bust me out,
now I'm like, I'm like,
so you're gonna lean up when you start doing that shit.
You're gonna freak an egg.
I don't break in my back and breaking the ass.
So you know, so.
The fuck some french fries, right?
The fuck some french fries, right?
So you get some recipes in there,
then you know, you know,
you just have to, you gotta get the flow
All the books.
Man, let's do us a cookbooker.
We can do shit.
And the recipes are tried and true and they're really good.
These broke-ass burgers.
They're not broke-back burgers.
No, we're gonna have all the recipes and shit
we used to eat on the come up.
Y'all ain't ready for this.
Let's do it.
Hamburger Helper strogan off.
Hamburger help a strogan off.
Yeah, that's where you eat half of it
and then you put it in the refrigerator
and then you eat the other half.
There is.
There is.
A day later.
A day, just a day?
Just a day.
You got a stretch.
Let you let you marinate.
Yeah, that's the hamburger.
But yeah, so I have to bring you copies of the book back.
We got to get the book.
Write that down, man.
Sex.
I don't really never ask you to do shit.
It's like recipes, but with sex.
Sex and piece.
Sex and piece.
If you Google it, the book cover will come up.
Let me back while you hear so you don't think I'm lying.
I'm talking to bring it back some copies.
It's good.
Like, that's just how Lowe said he liked to support.
Well, I appreciate it.
As I am, I try to support these.
Me too.
Yeah.
You can't be quiet.
You can't say that.
Bring it up.
Don't bring it up.
Don't bring it back up.
A-P-P, E-A-N-C.
And we do it.
Yeah.
Cat already than butter.
You heard it.
You heard it.
You heard it.
Let's see.
There, it is.
Oh, it's right there.
And you're five by five.
Let me see.
Five by the five.
Oh.
Yeah, that's good.
Yeah, that's great.
Let me see.
Let me see.
Is that that that?
I don't know.
That's probably it.
But I've been glad.
I don't see it on.
She said it's on Amazon.
I can type it in on Amazon.
Oh, there go.
Go to Amazon.
I'm on it, kept it there.
With the strawberry.
The paper, oh shit, that's really you.
That's the only ass I had clearance to,
and rights to.
You couldn't use nobody else's there.
Yeah, I can't use somebody else's.
I'm not trying to get sent.
It's just a blessing to be, you know, still.
Boy, who would buy a cookbook with an ass on it?
Oh, shit, we eat.
Man, if I walked in here and you wasn't here,
and I was like, man, you got to get this cookbook.
And you saw it was ass on it.
You were like, yeah, no.
No, but it has a strawberry.
But you got, if you tell me who ass it was.
Bro, you got to buy the cookbook with the ass on it.
Then you got to act like you don't know you got it.
Like there's a regular regular cookbooks in your,
hey, man, maybe some pancake, get the cookbook out of the drink.
The driver's phone is bringing up wet ones and, uh,
you know, freaking, freaking everything.
There's some freaking, there's a freaking motherfogels around here.
How my shit different?
All right, man.
Are you on Google?
What?
Did it come up that time?
Let me see.
Okay, yeah, this is it right here.
Yeah, that.
Yeah, that's it.
Okay, okay, I'm binding now.
Oh, thank you.
I've arrived to you.
Her brother's Chicago.
It's on the table.
But I still bring copies. I bring copies for you guys.
Look, the ladies are like, I don't want that.
Nah, man, you support this black woman and buy a cookbook
with an Arizona 85 psalchew.
Carlos Miller, Chris Dowell.
Hey.
Yep, we out.
It was nice me to you.
Sorry for the circumstance when we met on it.
That's all good.
That's all good.
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