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J-Wam Did you do me the honors? You did me a favor? You can get me a two jelly beans out of there? Jelly bean. Fish.

Yeah, let that shit play Set that motherfucking tone though Yeah Uh-huh Uh-huh I want you to scrap That'd be hard in there

You know what this is Like you know what you need on here You need a nigga in the beginning And say Yeah, yeah Yeah And you don't stop Yeah

And it don't stop Yo And it don't stop One it to the four You already know How will come do the dough, uh-uh, let me bring it back I wanted to the fault

A-W-a-W-W-A-W-A-W-A-to-W-A-W-W-A-to-4 Come on. I get down on the-ha-oh. I get down on the-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. That's hard. We're going to take them up top. Oh, shit. Look at you!

I'm a nai-dose, I'm a nido, teakot, I'm a tom-a-cote, I'm a-coma-cote, getting lined with y'all. Something's fucking do the wrong, so on-sync. Mmm, I like the way you came on top there. Uh-uh, come back, don't stop there, yeah. You were on the 85 South Show. I'm about to show you how we get down with Tide Flo. Welcome to the A-T-L-A-N-T-A.

That's where I stay. I keep the K right there with bay. You know how I lay, uh, like pre-dolet, Because I'm all about my chips when I dip These niggas know what's happened when I trip Ooh, look at the drip Don't slip Oh, oh, don't go play my name

Okay, okay, let me plight in one more time With a big-ass gun You was going off so hard And he didn't save me none The oldest one, my mom was the oldest son I'm gonna start it, so this shit just begun Now I'm gonna through a backflip, Bring it backflip

And you know we're coming through With some black crimps And I know another nigga on the other side And he told me, look the other bullshit rat But I was on some other shit I mean some other shit And I was about to go and see what they were fucking with And they didn't know that they were fucking with a fool

Because I didn't came like a handyman With so many tools So what you pulled? Did you pull the monkey rat? Now what you pulled? You ain't stopping with the sacks? Now what you pulled? Because I know you get fielded

Now come on, shout out, don't play. Go ahead get with me. Hey, you would have thought I was gonna hell with a hamper. But I'm a Mississippi nigga, not Alabama. And so I came through with the big shit that even if they didn't get it, they didn't get it.

Ooh. I like what you. Yeah, you feel me? Yeah, that could have been a cold little St. Eyes commercial or something. They love that with your song. You feel me? A little two shoes. You feel me? Papp! Puck! I got hit with a pang! Taking up with field my left, though. No count. This better have my sweet potato.

I've got them edges. Come on. Okay. Yo, you heard what he said. Yeah. Now, D.C., Uh-huh. This is one of the one.

I think so, my boy. Now, we can get this man all kinds of intros. But I think this is probably one of the most important figures in hip-hop coach. Talk yo talk, no. He was in the room. He sold them record. Um-huh. Them concepts, them ideas, them art shows, them exhibits.

I think they're scared on. Tennis shoes. What? Licker. They're one of the niggas that showed niggas how to be rich. Come on now.

Shit you're supposed to do when you get the money. Don't forget about the clothes, nigga. This is what you do when you get the money. And he is an excellent eye for spot and culture vultures.

Come on, man. He's the nigger that had to be the nigger. Uh-huh. You know how when you need a nigga that say some shit that they need to be said but the nigger ain't gonna say

uh-uh. He's the nigger that'll say it. They're going to say it. I'm talking about En replay it, too. You know him is one of the... Coldest. Coldest. Mm-hmm.

Intelligent. Mm-hmm. Money-making. Mm-hmm. The definition of a hustler. Front-liner now. You the boss and you the janitor? Yeah.

Come on, man. Come on, man. This is one of the only motherfuckers that'll get on a whole interview and speak nothing but common sense the whole time. Come on, man. Never been afraid to speak the truth. Shit. I can't believe in here fucking with us today, man.

We don't... We don't... We don't lost count of the millions of shit that he sold. He then made billions of dollars in revenue. And he was the nigger who walked up in there and told him white folks, give me some! You ain't called me! It's not a deaf jam too.

Right. Why the fuck they wearing death jam jacket? Come on, man. Come on, man. His son got cookies, man. Come on, man. And they're delicious. Y'all niggas gonna stop acting like y'all the only one's getting money.

Come on, man. I'm talking about he put everybody you like on. He was right there. None other than hip-hop royalty. Ooh. Mr. Ooh. Dailing Dad.

Come on. Somebody. Thank you. That's the definition of putting you respect on somebody's name. Come on, man. Appreciate that. That was joke. Hey, man, I'm going to tell you.

The only thing you forgot was the pause. We also invented pause. You definitely, but we don't like to say that shit. I had to say that shit. You didn't stop a whole conversation. Pause. Pause what? What the fucking talk about?

You said this shit. You're like, why you think it like that? I think down here you say it a lot, pause. Hey, man. I was saying, you. It looked like you was having the most fun. Every time we've seen you in the video. Facts.

True. Anytime we saw you, you look like you was the one having the most fun. That is a fact. Being the example, people don't understand, like, you talk it, but walking what you talk. You got to lead that shit. Even when you, sometimes, man, you have to put yourself on the line. You got to show them that, listen,

what I'm talking about is this is the only fucking, Why? Well, I only think in boss. And sometimes I'm not around people that think in boss. So it's a language that people sometimes don't understand, but I'd be like that's the only mentality that you can think in. I don't know any other mentality. So if you're talking to me like I'm not a boss, I'm not going to understand you.

And also I might take it as a sign of disrespect. If you think you're a boss and you're not. If you are a boss, if you disrespect me and talk to me like I'm not a boss, then that means you don't respect me as one. That means you think I think I'm a boss and I'm not. That's a trigger for me. And then sometimes you talk, you know, because also like I consider myself a general, sometimes you talk to soldiers and they don't understand general talk.

They want to be told what to do. They don't want to learn. Just tell me what to do. You know, but I like to make a soldier into a general. because I got a lot of wars to fight you know but you know at the end of the day those wars are for love but yeah so that's what it is

it's just a mentality it's a CEO mentality how do you stay in that how do you understand I think that's why I have a problem with when the soldiers don't want to be generous they just want to be soldiers and you're like god damn

I don't know how to help somebody to stay the same I never I don't know how to do that well then you have to shed them you know the only people you don't shed is your family, but sometimes you've got to shed them as well. You got to give them space. Right.

You know, some people don't evolve at the same pace. That's why I smoke weed. You know, the ideas that I have, they don't realize themselves for decades. But people constantly want to be stuck on a Titanic knowing it's going to hit an iceberg just because they're used to it. Patterns hypnotize people. You put something, pause, and someone face every day, all day, they don't know any better. They just, even if it doesn't.

feel right they do what they're told like you know look at the way the world is set up right you know we're taught to be to sit behind a desk for eight hours a day while the sun is out while we're children so that we're prepared to do that um when we become adults you ever been to a school and they taught you how to pay taxes or have money right or taught you how to pass a law right So these are logical things that should be taught. And also the curriculum that is implemented today is a curriculum that was made by Thomas Jefferson, and this is facts.

And that was for a white man to know how to tell a black man what to do, and for a black man to know how to listen to a white man. And we still have that curriculum today. When we go to school, we're presented a sport, and what pause is dangled is you could break a social class if you try to win lotto and spend your whole life not learning

and doing a sport and while you're in that team they don't teach you about anything that happens after 30 knowing that more than likely you're not going to become a professional and if you do the likelihood of it lasting and you're not getting injured is slim to none

so why if you're going to distract a kid in the school you're not going to teach them about what happens if this shit don't work out, right? Mm-hmm. Why do schools look like courtrooms and jails? Especially the schools in L.A. Everywhere. Every school looks like a courtroom.

It looks like a hospital. They all look the same. It's program. I go to a kid's prison to the school in Chicago. What they're doing to those kids is the saddest shit, and I suspect they're doing it everywhere. The kids don't have outdoor space. They breathe recycled air.

When they go to get, when they get locked up, they're given a drug. The drug makes you impotent. It kills your libido. And they say if you take the drug, you can get out quicker. It's called the cut program. So they all doped up, all of them.

There's no therapy. And the therapy that's available are all white women. talking to children that kill people, black kids. The education, the worst part about it is when they let them back on the street, the average reading score is fourth grade. So that ensures that they build another jail cell. So the recidative rate is almost at 99%. So imagine bringing the kid, doping them up, not educating them,

and putting them right back in the war. with no education but addicted to a drug, and the only way he could get it is to go back to jail. So now jail's not that bad to him. They're just preparing the kid to go and be an adult in jail. Now, the worst part about it is for every kid, the budget is $1.2 million. Every kid is a millionaire once he gets there,

but he can't afford to buy a toothbrush. He gets no commissary. That's torture. And this modern day, that's going on now, to these kids so when I go in there they don't let us tape but like if I have girls with me they cry

it's really disturbing and y'all should check it out one day but you know that's how they're programming our kids to accept things unrecognized trauma where it's cool for us to hurt each other glorify it and also there's an algorithm for

it where you get paid and not ever do anything to the people that are repressing us It's all a program. If you just sit back and don't do, you just got to look at what's logical. You know what I mean? So I just always look at what's logical.

And I'm not going to complain. I'm like, you know, that's a good trick. It's fucked up that is happening to us. But what's been erased from our memory is when we were in control, like Moors. We were torturing them. They were our slaves. They've erased all of that history.

You never got taught about them more in school, right? Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. So there was a time, and I guess when you get abused and you're not that strong, you get very strategic about how you make strong people think they're weak. They've just been tricking us. That's why I laugh at them. But I've just been aware of it the whole time. I think it's because of the family that I go into, you know, we've never been bullied,

and just the people I grew up around. We've never been on that end. We were always like the people that bullied the bully. I'm not saying me, but the people I was around. and I appreciated the fact that I didn't have to do what they did and that I could do what I wanted freely and that's why I was just always felt untouchable

and I still feel that way and you know I'm 52 years old you don't like what I do also is I can time travel so when I was young I would get in my spacecraft

and light speed to where that I would look like when I was 52, and I was like, I don't want to be on the greatest hits tour. I don't want to be old dancing with a gray beard with champagne. I don't want to be pushing old work. So I knew the trajectory of what I was doing

was going to have me doing some corny shit when I was older. So I was like, yo, this shit was too easy. I sold three companies before I was 40, before I was 35. So I'm like, I'm going to do this shit on my own. And I want to make sure everything I do in this moment when I'm 50, I'm prepared

for what's going on now. See, when you hustle or you start a company, you don't start a company that worked in the past. You've got to think about what they're going to be doing in the future. So I started building everything. Like, I looked at the industry as it stood 10 years ago, 15, like the Titanic. As soon

as I saw the Internet, I was like, all this shit is over. I was telling people, but nobody was listening. So I said, fuck it. Y'all can say what you want. Y'all stay on this Titanic and I'll go build a brand new shit. and when y'all hit the iceberg I'll have the ship and when you're building yours I'll be like but I was trying to tell niggas

I'm still telling people that's why you know in this moment everything got to be new so that's why when you said he has sneakers I still got sneakers Nicolette got a pair of them right now those are CEOs and I didn't have glasses before but I got him now

he's brand new the same rock wear this is CEO I'm not trying to bring back some old shit that's corny and if I do some old shit it's going to be different so you just heard me play some freeway shit you can't tell me you take it Rockefeller I'll fuck with it when I feel like it

I feel like it now so now I did I did a project with Cam Ran you don't even see it with A-track but I just did a rock and roll project with freeway I'm dropping a new single new records tomorrow

I just asked you to download America New a brand new network niggas ain't got networks Name a nigger that do And I get the full CPM So I'm gonna teach you something about that Because they robbing us And it's important that y'all realize this

Anyone that's getting their money On YouTube or any platform Where there's a commercial It's called The way you get paid is through a CPM If you're not talking CPM And you're on getting money like that Or YouTube, then you sound dumb

You've got to know about CPMs You got to understand CPMs it means in the ad tech world it means click per million but it really means click per thousand they try to make it so complicated that they put the M up but that's the Roman numeral for a thousand

so you still, you know, it puts shit in code but I'm pulling your coat to it now but like in another world they might say cost per million but whatever but I say click and it's a commercial that runs right and you get paid for a commercial

YouTube takes the money I'll say YouTube Leor Cohen right he works for YouTube but this is what he do right he just is what he represents

and let's say they make $22 off the commercial it's a $22 CPM they're going to tell you you're getting two so you pay for what you do and they make 99 and a half percent of the money

and then they don't even tell you how much they make it off you you just got to take what they give you that's not called digital slavery any place in the world that you work and someone else gets 99 and a half percent of the money for your labor and don't tell you how much they made that's not slavery is it to a certain extent

slavery now I see you got to look at to a boss that's slavery it ain't no extent you don't make more money off me than of my labor I make more money off you I'm not a slave in that tone. Understood. So you're, but then like, oh, it's all right, you know,

may I take what I get because I'm broken, maybe because I never made no money before. I'll take $100,000 a month, but you're making $20, and I'm celebrating you because you robbing me, that's a different voice. Are we speaking, are we speaking, like your own property versus you working for somebody?

What I'm talking about is whatever you put, your content on YouTube, they don't pay for it. Right. It's your IP. You put it on there, and they get 99% of the commercial that comes from it

and you don't get a dollar. I mean, you get maybe a dollar. That's digital slavery. That's what I'm saying. I didn't say like modern-day Kuta Kenta slavery. I said digital. You know what I'm saying? So, my point is they don't tell you that.

But another thing that they really don't tell you is how much they make off your data. So any aggregation of people in the digital, whether it's YouTube or social media, and you'd be like, how they make their money, Twitter or whatever? They make their money because they're selling your behavior patterns to people.

They're just studying your behavior patterns. What you buy, what time you buy it, it's an algorithm. So they sell that data to the people that are doing the advertising. Why would I send a tampon to you? You understand what I'm saying? Or some baby shit to, you know, so they know who to send what to. People buy data now. They don't teach you that.

So put it like this. Let me break it down to you like this. Let's say you used to hustle. Let's say you had a brick. but you didn't cook so well. So you go to your man and say, I need you to cook that for me, 100,000 grams.

He knows how to make it into 2,000 grams. He takes the 1,000 gives you your 1,000, but doesn't tell you he just made $1,000 off your shit. Would you be tight? In the street, you'll put a nigga in the trunk for that, but you're going to celebrate Leorpe, right? Put him on a fucking, a television show, and don't ask him, no question,

and celebrate him when he's robbing. And that's what they, always do. So I'm not going to complain about it. I made my own network. And what I did, let's say they get the ad from Pablo. I went around them. I get the ads from Pablo. I get the full CPM, and I got

my data. And I could give it away for free. And I could now break it down with a co-creator if I want, but it ain't for everybody. Your work got to be good. And I did my own shit. So I look at people that I look at that changed industry because I'm an industry conqueror.

What's his name for Apple? He died? that made Apple? Steve Jobs. So you remember Steve Jobs made IBM or whatever it was and they took his company, he said, fuck y'all. I went away for 10 years.

I said, I'm going to do that. I'm going to do what Steve Jobs did. I'm going to go do my thing and I'm not going to exploit anything anymore. It got to be about me. So I went and learned rock and roll. So I could come back

good at it. And that's what you just heard. I had to come back and learn the fashion business and I didn't want nobody else putting up the bread. That's the CEO is. I had to go back and learn how to have a television network because I wanted to make movies.

Remember, I made paid in full. Right. And that shit, when they give you a statement, it still says it didn't recoup. That's why it ain't no paid in full, too. I ain't make no money off it. I'm fighting in the street over that. I'm going to court over that,

and the motherfuckers is running up on me, and these are the motherfuckers that made the money. Bring it back. What happened? Don't you got to speak on two. You know, you're a street nigga. You know how to talk. What, what, what going on?

What do you mean? In the street? With the painted fool. So this is what happens in tradition. I'll explain the movie business seat right now. So you have, so boom. Let's say I bought the script from A.Z. Right.

I got the rights to his life. Right. Then I go to Merrimack's dimension and they acquired the rights to his life. So now they got it. and they're not just paying me a fee to make the movie. And that's what happens in television and all that. So you don't own it, and they just pay you a fee. So they put up the money, and they pay you a fee,

and then they start telling you what to do. But I got to deal with everybody in the street. You know, Cam got shot over that shit. You know what I'm saying? So that shit was real. To this day, we're still going through it over that motherfucking thing. So I'm making it now, but I had to have it on my own platform. I had to get the lion's share of the money.

I'm the one that got to be fighting in the street If you acquired the rights first That's what happens You acquire the rights first Right You don't have the money to make it So now you have to give it to somebody else You didn't know that

No no no no All I heard was you acquired the rights Again they acquired the rights You didn't know that in general No I know that's how I go I'm just listening to the story I'm just a normal story I'm saying that's the industry standard

Right So same thing with a TV show You go to have your idea You go to E1 They take the idea they take it from you, get your life rights and they go get a network, a network gives them a budget, but now they're just paying them

a fee. So they'll be like, you get 400,000 an episode. As long as the episode's all right, I don't care what you do with the money. So a place, a production company, right, like let's say this, you got cameras. What they'll do is they own the cameras, but they'll act like they renting them for like

$5,000 a camera. So they just, it's called the skim. So that's how the production companies make their money is all from the skim. And then they tell the artist, I mean, it's always a, it's never a black production company. It's always a black person that's down with a white production company, right? And what they'll do is tell the artist, oh, we're paying you short bread, go get your money in the strip club.

You want to see what I'm saying? Like, it paid to be, like, hosting and shit like that. And that's the game. So I'm too aware of the game. Like, I look at it as a boss. I want, how you make the money? See, that's what y'all got to start asking. Stop worrying about how y'all make, you know how y'all make the money.

They're giving it to you. Ask them with how much money they make I don't give a fuck what you giving me How much do you make off me That's it Nobody never asked that In the street we do We ask each other that we don't trust each other

As soon they get And another thing When you get on social media Or YouTube or you sign You actually sign a contract You got kids signed a contract Without a lawyer looking at You're giving away all your rights

Nobody even looking Why? This seems logical, though, but nobody's looking. Just because they say it's so, that means they robbing us. The less we know, the more they robbers. The more we know, the less they robbers. That's why they got to talk to me nice. I'd be frustrated when somebody's trying to sell me fake shit so confidently.

You know, I'd be like, bro, I'm not dumb. It's frustrating. So that's why I smoke weed. And that's why I'm like, fuck it, I'm going to do it myself. And then you put niggas on, and they go jump on their side, and they start selling out. I can't be doing all that shit so that's why I was like I'm only going to do

this network is my family's network I work for my family all the companies they're my families that's not mine I work for my family I'm at work right now for my family and on my network I have therapy I have children's programming I got books

out right now I got Rocky my girl she sold a book called the Dusco Goes in Space about my son she already sold 60,000 books that's a 10,000 And you know how we go into the Board of Education and they let us teach the kids how to dream. See, I'm down with something called the OSG.

It's hundreds of principles from economically challenged places. And when I say economically challenged, I usually mean black, but they always know what we mean when we say black. They know our verbiage, they know how to block what we're going to say already. We've been saying the same shit. So we've got to change the verbiage, you know, economically challenged. And what they do is they talk about the things. things they could do off school grounds. Dr. Dennis McKeezy curated all the coolest principals.

So if there's public officials that are black or from our culture and principals, they're going to let us teach. So we have to teach. We have to give curriculum. All we do is we let them give us curriculum. Why will we let them teach us how to be slaves and not know it? So you know how you keep a slave a slave,

you don't let him know he's a slave. That's the digital world right now. That's what they're doing. So I'm telling everybody, whether you fuck with me or not I still want you to tell them to talk to you a different way. How much do you make off my shit? How am I signing

something and I'm not giving it to a lawyer? When do we do that? You know? Oh no, nigga, we listen. Yeah, I mean, you know I was going to give you all some air. I'm going to I know if you might want to ask me some questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well shit, we just sit here like that. Fuck me, nigga. I won't know

everything. How old ass, digger. So I don't try to tell you what the problem is I have a solution. That's America New. Right. So everyone watching, go to your phone, it's free. This is what I've been doing in the last 10 years. America New. America and you. Just check it out.

That's it. And I have a freeway album coming out, Black Guns and Freeway. So with me, I'm like, I don't want to just make money of artists. I got to be an artist. I don't want to make money or somebody clothing on. I got to design it. I'm going to play a coach. Period.

And it's cooler that way. It's way cooler be the artist than the administrator. I'd rather be the artist. And I'm admitting that right now. Right. I would rather be the artist. I hate business. People do anything for, I'm going to still be the money. I got, I rather own, if you're going to be the artist, you've got to own the business. Or you're going to get exploited. And I try to

teach artists how to own the business. If you notice every time you heard me spazz out, it was never on the artist. You ever see me spas out on the artist? I might tease, we might snap, but I always spas out on an administrator. Niggas, I'm yelling at a robbing artist. That's why I was yelling at him. And y'all acting like I'm bugging.

I'm like, I'm yelling at them because they bully and y'all. Somebody got to do it. Somebody got to do it. I enjoy it. I'd be like, let me call me. I like it. I love it. Ask Norrie.

Ask anybody. I'll be like, yo, I'll do it for free. Let me know. I'll fix your shit. I'll tell you exactly how to talk to them and exactly what they should say. Or I'll tell you. Blame it on me. I don't give a fuck about them

We don't need them Why we who cares that's what I mean I'll be like he's fearless or what Like nerds I don't give a fuck They all fucking group up They all do this all corny shit Steve Stout He even when I'm running all that other shit That shit is that is bitch-ass nigginess

Right period Like I just didn't realize that people Were really like that That they could click up and be like We gotta get him out of here And we're gonna cheat And all this 48 laws of power.

Everybody read 48 laws of power. I read that shit just to know it. That's just, I can't stand it. Everybody does it. Crazy. When you walk into somebody's

office and they have 48 laws of power, I already know what they're going to do. I already read the book. Not to do it. That shit's for cheaters to me. But I know what you're thinking. I know fuck me, reprimatur, boop, boop.

You could do all that. I'm over here doing what I'm doing. They have not stopped me once. Look at all the loose shit I got. All on my own. And speaking of yelling. Of who? Speaking of yelling.

Oh. Mm-hmm. You know, I'm from... Speaking of yelling. Yeah, yelling. Yeah. That shit, fine. I was speaking of yelling.

That ain't... I'm from the South, bro. You know, we pay attention, but we mind our business. You dig what I'm saying? And just to hear you speak on that bullshit, it explains the video of when you walked in death jam. And you popped your shit. You dig what I'm saying.

What you're saying? with the meeting. Where's the time? The white t-shirt time. I always got a white t-shirt. Nah, this was the time when you walked out, like you was in the office for a long time. Yeah, you was walking through.

Like, why you didn't call my phone? I want to know what's fucked up about that situation when I was really tight. Because my man, Bobby Burke, that just died, Bob Laugh. I was the first friend that I left, first brother from the best out, Biggs' brother.

And we was at awake. And that's when I was like, These niggas is vicious, you know? Like when you, in a time like that, that's when they really start trying to get at you. And I was like, you're going to try this shit. And I had heard about it. And that's why I had taped the meeting.

I hadn't already knew they were doing it. But I was like, these niggas really going to do this when my heart is broken, when my whole crew's heart is broken. And then what was really fucked up is later in life, I found out that Jay had set that meeting up. So that really fucked me up later. So I had to get some therapy for that one.

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They're not supposed to do that. So I could have sued them, but the street shit in me, I just don't like going to court. But the motherfuckers is funny. But in hindsight, it was like, you got to remember, I was like 30. 30. In that meeting, I retired at 35.

You understand what I mean? I was 52. I've been retired for like 15, 20 years. I was done with Rockefeller at 35. I got to, I've been able to do whatever the fuck I want to do for the last 20 years. And I have to do nothing they're telling me to do. I ain't got to go to no red carpet.

I ain't got to smell nobody, bad breath. None of that shit. None of that shit. I get to just, it's just, and then Instagram, I'm like, oh, I ain't never got to go out. I'm outside right now because, first of all, I got new companies.

It's time. You know, I was explaining to people, it's like the Godfather, you know, for the last like 10 years, my crew has been like, yo, why you keep letting them do this? And I'd be like, don't worry about it. They could do,

They can hide a block. I don't want that old block. And now, five years later, the Godfather hit all five families in one day. So fashion is one family. That's the CEO and all that. The music. I just played a Maya project.

And again, we don't know what, it's a movie, but it's a whole problem. That's a new music. A freeway project that's coming out this week. And then I just played the white Fuji's, Nicolette and Lee. You feel what I'm saying? So that's just a little clip right there for music.

Just so you know, now, I'm active now. I don't want to talk about the old days. I'm active, what you're doing now. Hit me, I challenge anyone that was doing it with me, give me a new record right now. Here's my new record. Let's talk about that. Let's see what we're at now.

It's easy to be cool when you young. Let me see what you're looking like. A rock star looks like at 50. It should be, I'm not performing old shit. We're performing new shit. And then the television network business. I don't see nobody with one. So now I'm ahead of the game.

Nobody got one. So all the, you know, no disrespect, but this one, like, you know, like that, where we get the full CPM, but the digital world is the world. That's the new world. If you're not prepared for it, you're stupid. Linear is out the window. Cable is gone. So why hustle for that?

Hustle for the future. And your business model got to be pandemic proof. If it doesn't sustain, we just went through a pandemic. You always, so we also broadcast live. So if it's a pandemic, we could be doing shows. And y'all got a whole building. And the other thing is, I'm proud of y'all. You know, I don't want to say that.

You know, Chad, you pull up and he talked to me for hours and pause, pick my brain and listen. But do it on, he was like, he sort of, like, this, I've never had a studio this organized and this well done. So y'all independent and go to, what label got a better built? Y'all got a building. You ain't got an office in your own it. Right? You got to celebrate that. Niggas don't do that.

You know, y'all got studios and, you know, this is exactly what it's supposed to look like. Yeah, we heard you when you said that shit. Exactly, so I'm coming, I'm like, oh, I'm proud of you. Appreciate it. You know what I mean? That's a dang damn moment right now. Hell yeah.

Yeah. But you feel like you're doing some shit right. Fucking right, man. But I want to try to make movies, though. Yeah, most of that. Wait. It's too easy. As well, I said, just get a DP, and with Chad GPT, you got seven fucking cameras.

You only need three. All you got do is put, get adapter, throw some better lenses on it. Good. Y'all got lights, y'all got sets, y'all got talent. The same amount, just now we could have shot like five pages. You feel me? Y'all, y'all got a switcher with a, I never saw a seven switcher. Like, I'm bugging.

You got everything they got. Y'all got better. If you go into a network, like, studio, they don't have updated cameras. They shit is old. Y'all been on ABC or a morning. You see the camera a big and clunky, all this shit? All this shit brand new.

That shit got numbers and all that. I'm impressed. I got to step my shit up. Seven? How many fucking angles? How do you edit that? Nick, dang, Dan, said he got to step his shit up. Man, we're buying seven more cameras this week.

Nah, what I'm saying is you're overqualified for what you're doing. Y'all got too many guys. guns to fight battles, you're ready for war. See, that was always my problem is I would go to war without no guns. So I said, hold on, let me get my guns. Because I have mad beef, balls. I'm like, damn, you're thinking they clicking up.

I'm like, oh, shit. Right. It was wild. I didn't think they would hang out like that. You know, what they do? You know what I'm saying? I think I brought them together. I go, he makes me taking all our girls.

He's getting all the money. He's telling us, we can't rob him. We got to get him out of here. I'm not, I'm still here. Right. Right. Crispy. Right.

Everything new. With new game, new educate, new curriculum. I'm not, the same people that, like, rob you all in music are the same people that are robbing y'all in digital. Like, I told her what Leor did in music. He invented the 360 deal. He did that because of me. It's because with Rockware, she, one side was like, damn, you got to think about it, right? It was universal in Dept Jam, got 50%.

Then me, Jay, and Biggs had to bust down three. And then Jay was double-dipping and getting crazy money as an artist. Because I just didn't give a fuck. We were friends. I didn't care. And after that, there's no money. So I'm like, and then I realized that with Rockefeller,

if I made Rockefeller clothing, then I would have to bust it down with Def Jam. So I made Rockware. So I started to use, I just looked at Rockefeller as marketing. So if you notice, I was just putting all the clothes and all that was a commercial for me. I was like, fuck that. Move my office to Rockware, and I'd be laughing at Leor.

We just made 30 million EBITDA off all the shit you're paid for. You ain't getting a dollar. He'd be like, hey, you got me on that one. Todd Mosca was did the deal. He was a lawyer. How do y'all make, let Todd Mosca was become a fucking record mobile for fucking black people. He's a lawyer because he's just up under Leor's,

you know what I mean? The lint, like Julie Greenwald, how the fuck does she run anything in music? It's just hilarious to me over Sherry. That's crazy to me. I know them. They don't, they can't dance. They can't even bar their head. I'd be in meetings and they'd be, I'd be like, can y'all bar your head or anything?

They'd be like, can't hold a beat. How do these people run, how do y'all flicking up to these people? whoever's in the office with them right now that's black you should be ashamed and I want you to laugh for her when you see her when she walks through the office instead of being like little Julie Julie she'd be like yo dame said you was whack

that's why they'd be clicking up and they're like damn I thought he was done how did you let them become your bosses how did that happen that would have never happened on my watch like I'm back and I'm looking around I'm like, these are the bosses now? How did this happen? No wonder.

And what I know is that these bosses are going to take everything you don't know about, so I'm just going to educate you about it. So just ask them how much they make off the CPMs, the digital, know you, and ask about your data. And if they fuck with you, come over to America, because we're about to just kill it,

because they're not ready. No label got a network. and can make clothes and can make books and can make music and can make glasses and can make sneakers it's all independent

so I basically funded 10 fucking companies independently and I'm broke that's what I call proud broke I ain't got no money to loan nobody we only got money for bills that's a broke that's a monster right there

I like that shit I'm taking that shit with me I ain't got no money to loan nobody We only got money for bills. Money for bills. Is that true? That's the book. That's the truth.

I don't have nobody to throw. I don't have nobody to throw. I'm, I'm fucking buying cameras. Only bills. We build and building. That's it. The bill is to invest in to the company. We only got bill money.

If you got money, that means you a sucker. You should be investing it all. Right. I don't hold no paper. If you got paper to hold you broke. Damn. They even say that. I bet it all every time.

I'm not. I don't know. holding no money, they're going to take it. I'm not holding no money to look at it. What I'm going to do with it? Pay, you know? Uh-uh. I'm broke.

Man, you're fucking the game up. You fucking my head. But these niggas in the street, that's what you get money. Be like, yo, you get somebody. I'm fucked up. Niggins would say that proud in home. Facts. I don't know why they stop that shit.

I'd be like, I'm fucked. You think I can't change my net worth for a name? That shit been saying negative two million. I put that there. You don't think I could get that taken down? I put it there. Leave me to fuck alone I'm broke

I'm fucked up I just got mad companies I'll be broke like that I ain't got no money for you you know what I'm saying because niggins will take it all and not give none of it back you know the thing about

how much you gave away dang I don't even know I don't count money it's more than love I gave away that got violated fuck your shit that's the shit that pisses me off that violation. My currency isn't money. I don't give a fuck about money.

All I care about is love. That's my currency. God made that. You know? And what I try to do is teach people about dreaming because your brain is powerful. You know, you can only use 8% of your brain. It don't mean the other 98 don't work. Only 8% of your brain is all we have the ability to use.

So I know there's some magical shit. So what I visualize is, happen for me, it actually works. But what happens when you're around negative people is they'll put a negative in your visual and it'll stop you from doing it or that's what to realize itself. So number one, you've got to keep negative people away.

And also, you can't hang out with people that aren't dreaming. So if someone doesn't have a dream, what could your conversation be with them other than something that has nothing to do with your dream? They're wasting your fucking time. I don't want to have a bubble gum fucking conversation. It's the money to get.

There's no time to talk about anything but that. You ain't got no dream to talk about and us kick clicking up. Then what the fuck are you going to do but waste my time? Exactly. Literally. So you got to keep people without a dream until they can get one. They got to get from around. Because all they're going to do is resent you for having one.

Because people without a dream don't have a purpose. People that don't have a purpose are miserable. I don't know what life could look like without something to wake up and fight for. Like that's why niggas be depressed. They just get up and just, you know, they're complacent. That's why you got to dream big. Dreams don't cost no money. So why would you dream?

Oh, I dream for a job. Some people dream, like, I just want to pay my bills. That's not a fucking dream. To survive. The dream is to have an island, a yacht, a plane, and be able to make sure your grandkids' kids never have to work. They could all be dumb. Third generation kids be dumb most of the time.

We're going to try to not make shit they dumb, though. Well, that's what happens, usually. First generation makes your second maintain. and then third fucks it up. See, I'm around people that have third generation of wealth. So I understand generational wealth and what that looks like.

Can you visualize a child that you haven't even conceived yet? This is your kid's kid. Still fucking not ever having to work because of something you did. That happens. But you got to own your IP. You can't give nothing away

if you don't own nothing. It's just logic. Do you what I'm saying? Yes, sir. And you're an illness. nigga. I've been through what you've been through but not as crazy but the way you reacted I was like he's a stone cold killer that was ill you put it into being creative and work that's just what I did and that's the shit you never expect and God never gives you anything

unless God thinks you can handle it so he must think you were ill nigger and you're stepping up I said I went through it bro I cried for you bro I promise you I was like I remember that shit sucks and you got the children and you come home I'm hearing you I'm like this is an ill dude

I'm gonna give you another pal I appreciate you know what I mean you know what happens so I have a child now with my girl and we lost a baby

at seven months thank you but then we had a baby a year after but our thing was what you don't want is people feeling sorry for you so what we did is we did

therapy publicly so no one can ask us no questions and then we went rocket cop the car S63 and then we went to Hawaii and we

Nicolette went with us and we had a lot of fun, we healed but we were having so much fun that people forgot that we were in pain when they see you enjoying yourself they forget that you went through something you know I mean

like almost when I see you on like Instagram and shit, I'd be forgetting that you went through something. I was like, he's an ill-nigger quick. But if you could sustain that, shit, you could do anything, bro. You could do anything. And I can see, it's ill. So again, you never get over it. Don't even try.

You just learn to live with it. It just makes you a general. You're not a general unless you fought a war. And you're fighting a war publicly and people have to respect you because you're doing something that my other people don't have the hard to do. That's the thing that I did. Like with Alea, when that shit happened, I was outside the next day. But like I said, that's when they started, that's when they really tried to get at me.

I went to three therapists that day to make sure I was straight the next day. I cried in front of everybody. I couldn't stop. You know what I mean? And, you know, like she still talks to me because I can hear the music. So every time, like, you know, I hear the music, I know there's a sign. So you pay attention to the signs because they, you know. still communicate with you.

I was reading this book called The Seed of the Souls. That's how I connected with it earlier because we both were reading this book and Kadada and it was about the evolution of your soul. And then I had all these other books around I got into it and then

she passed or transitioned and I never read those books no more because it was like I was being prepared to still be able to connect with. I had like a roadmap of things to look for the sign.

So I kind of could recognize them. It's funny because she talks to Rocky a lot. Through butterflies. One time I was kicking it, me and Rocky was kicking it with this girl. She was like, did you hear the new R. Kelly record?

Rocky was like, Dame don't fuck with R. Kelly. And lightning struck. And then one of those like truth like, you know, psychics kind of, they referenced it. Like, yo, she was talking to you threw some lightning one time.

And we were like, oh, shit. We all got goosebumps and shit. Biggie would be talking to me. You communicates with me, too. This is another conversation. But either way, that's that next level shit. Mm-hmm. You know, and that's why I try to prepare myself

in every dimension. That's why I kick it with guys like Billy Carson. So all that shit that's happening with the space, and them talking about alien, he was telling me, I saw a know-too-much 10 years, five years ago. And he said, in five years, they're going to start telling us,

shit. So no one's talking about the future of space travel. We need some fucking astronauts. They're building hotels out there. Are they teaching space travel in school? Are they teaching code? Are they teaching CPMs? Are they teaching AI? If they're not teaching those things, you're not

preparing a person. See, the thing is, what people understand about me, my message is harsh, but what I learned through kicking it with the OSG was that if you give a kid love and hug them and make them feel good, but don't teach them, they're going to jail. It's enabling.

So you can't just be like, oh, I'm going to talk to you nice and they feel good, but they don't learn. It hurts. So that's why sometimes my message is like, yo, wake the fuck up. It's almost like if somebody's in front of a train and you're like, yo, there's a train coming. And they're like, what? I'm not going. I'm like, yo, it's a train coming. Like, you don't hear it?

Paul. Yo, get the fuck off the thing. You know, at that point, you got to be a different way to save them up. And then that person, like, why you had to yell at me? And you got to save your life. You matter how I saved your life? What type of shit is that? But people be on some old bitchy shit.

And then fear is what stops people from even actually doing anything. They always act scared. So just don't be scared or nothing. Just be conscious, but no fear. Don't worry about nothing. Never worry. It's always, that's my, I mean, my, every month is never worry for me. Yeah, you said some real shit.

It's never wear. What month? My favorite month? My or is never worth. How you say that? He gave us two. The one when he said, I don't know how to feel to wake up and not have nothing to fight for.

Nigel, are you fucking crazy? That's why when you said it, nigga, I know it's a battlefield. Like, I wake up and put my boot. Like, I live by that. I stand on that. That's why I stand on that. And I know it's a war.

And I know I got to put my shoes on. You know what you're doing? Can nobody that's a, in front of you ever go through that and not stand up like you. You lead him by example. That's bullshit. You can't send somebody to do something that you wouldn't do yourself. So that's why when I go through it, as a general, I got to stand up

because I can't have niggas folding if these things happen. I'm like, yo, you got to do it like I did it. You feel me? So that's why being a general is like, you've got to be able to fight everybody in the room. who did that three you got to us you know people especially with men they're alpha everybody wants to top

slot you got to earn that top slot and fight everyone around you for it I'll be watching this shit on a TikTok and they be showing the hyenas the animal planet for real ain't it they eat the hyena eats the queen's head to take over

and they eat their cannibals the closest people to them always want their slot and then they eat their head. Pause. Shit is crazy. It can be, I'm telling you, I'm teaching how to, how human is that? Well, if you look at animals, they're

honest. Right. So, the one thing that an animal doesn't have, I don't think, is consciousness of death, so they have no fear. Because when they be getting eating and shit, they still be looking calm. Facts. They don't know they about to die? They don't know how to register pain and shit, like my dogs

and shit, like, but I look at him in their, you know, my, I didn't even bring, you know, Gov is getting old, but he fights the younger one, uh, Astro, every fucking day, my, my, my dogs. And, you know, their way of

doing shit is weird. But, you know, yeah, you just got to look at the way honest animals act. Mm-hmm. You know, as long as motherfuckers is eating meat, they still savages. Pause. Yep.

I expect. Are you a vegan? I'm slowly getting into it. If you think about that, number one, how are you going to trust your oppressor with food? Like, I got homeboys that did everything in the street went to jail, came home, and a cheeseburger killed them. You know, meat is the number one cause of diabetes, cancer, and heart disease.

The number one cause. So why would you still eat it? It's all GMOs, and there's so much dutal all over it. So you got to think about it. right? You have a buss and shrimp? Mm-hmm. That black part. So when they take a body, you know, chicken, they just

put in a blender, but the doodle's still in them. Think about how much shit is in the cow. And fish, people think they eating fish caught out of the sea. That shit is all farm. And they just sit in a toilet bowl shitting. And that's it. It's in the fucking...

There's a tolerance for rat hair because then they got to move the meat paws around to, like, warehouses and shit. They should be having rats. So you have a tolerance for rat hair, a tolerance for doodoo, and a tolerance, like I said, you have this much doodoo on it, this much pus, and this much rat hair.

Now, if a rat or doodoo was on any plate even next to it, maybe even in the same room, I'm not eating that shit. So just because I know about the doodle on that shit, I'm not doing it. Damn. You're gonna laugh, that's been some good-a-dudu. Hey, yo. Pause, man.

That's why I said, I'm slowly with your shoulder, get out of that doo-doo, my guy out there, boss, man. But that's what you're programmed, but there's things that taste poor is better than do-doo that you just don't know about. So that means go explore, look for it. Facts. Like, if I know something, if this block ain't right to live on, I'm looking for another block to live on. I'm scarce when it comes to food. I don't know what to eat. I'd be like, what I'm going to eat.

But just go to TikTok. TikTok, take you everything. Everything. That's the new search engine. Go to AI. That shit will give you a recipe. To eat, there's no excuses now. That's what we don't have right now is excuses.

All we need to do is no. You just have to know. Just think about the future. Fuck the past. What are we going to be doing in 10 years? Right. And then hustle for that. Don't hustle for it now.

You survive it now. Hustle for the future. That's what I always do. So that's why everything I say, it'd be like, this thing is bugging. But when I do it, they'd be like, oh, genius. But every time I say something, people still say I'm bugging.

But this generation is better. It's time to come up with some new shit. To somebody that's bugging, you're bugging. You got to be bugging a little bit. To somebody that's not so smart, they're not going to think you so smart. Right. They're going to look at you.

You kind of have to be smart to recognize the smart in somebody. Somebody dumb doesn't recognize the smart. They recognize the dumb. So somebody that doesn't listen, but he's dumb. No, you're dumb. It's just a reflection. What I find sometimes is the thing. that I find people I don't like are the things I don't like about myself unconsciously.

So whenever I'm giving any critique, I always go back and make sure I'm not unconsciously doing the shit that's bothering me, that that person is doing. It's like every time I'm talking, it's like I'm really just reassuring it to myself. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Some motherfuckers are just hard to like. I'm not. I'm hard to like to people that I'm beating up. Just, I'm...

Like I said, I'm a superhero. I'm that man, so the joke is always going to be mad. You feel me? Like when you're a superhero, in any wins, somebody got to lose. So it's not, worrying about being liked is like the worst dumbest shit in the world. No matter what, people are going to have opinions. Why would you care? Like, why would you care what someone thinks about you other than the people that you care about?

You understand? And negative gets attention. It's an algorithm. So people, it's a profitable thing. So I never get offended by people that, like, when they post fucked up shit about me and shit, I'd be like, oh, they're keeping me alive. I love it.

And then it gives me a reason to talk. Keep doing it. I think it's funny. If you're, like, in the public eye and you care what people think, that's an oxymoron. Actually, that's a moron. That was crazy.

You know what I'm saying? Might be your oxen, but you're a moron. Like, how could you care? Like, there was a million people out there. You mad if 100,000 don't like you, but they all spending money? Right. Worried about the wrong shit.

People have popularity though People are insecure They get paid in dopamine That's why they robbing you On all those platforms They pay you in fame and not money That's just all that is a distraction bro You got to look for the distractions

Like again we're people that are confident In our physical brawn So we don't hide We be like let's fight People that can't fight are real sneaky That can't fight a real sneaky That can't fight a real sneaky I'd be trying to tear a nigga that.

Them the ones that's not going to physically come up on your home. They don't even want the credit for it. Right, right, right. The ones that are pissing your food. And they just look at you eat, pause, and you're like, oh, trust me, nerds do that type of shit all day. And I'm not talking about like a book reader. That's not a nerd.

It's just a person that doesn't play fair. Someone that's just not, you know, a boy that's not man enough to just confront things and be honest and won't give nobody a fair. If you won't give me a fair one, you're a sucker. If you gotta go get your friends, you're a sucker. If you had to go conspire and have a meeting about me, you should look in the mirror and call yourself a sucker.

And don't be mad at me for calling you a sucker. Be mad at yourself. Or watch America New and I'll teach you how to dream and all the hate. Because what happens when people are dreaming, they don't hate. They're worried about their own dreams, and they celebrate others that are dreaming. People that hate or people that don't have a dream.

have a drink. Who the fuck has time to hate when you want to be manifesting some fucking yachts and shit? I got no time to be putting a visual of someone I don't like in my brain. To me, that's wild homo pause. You know, like, you know, that's, you know, no cancel. Right.

I have no cancel. But, you know, but, you know, when... That's the new shit. No cancel. No cancel. Okay, I'm old, I'm 52, I shit's going to slip, you know what I mean? Like, you can't expect a nigga just change.

It didn't mean the same. Right. It's also you got to be cognizant of people's mentalities as you get older. If you have an old mentality, and it worked in the 90s, that shit ain't going to work right now. So you got to be, like, aware. It's like going into another country. You got to know the laws, you know, you get locked up for some shit. Like, everywhere I go, I always go, like, is we legal here?

Because to me, we's legal here? So I walk around and shit like that And they'd be like, that's a felony. Oh, shit. Like, I've done, boy, houses, not knowing that and been with people. And they'd be like, yo, you know it should not be on the gram. It's not legal out of you.

I'm like, I just closed it on a crib. I can't smoke. If I wouldn't have done that, if I wouldn't know. So you got to like, you just always got to think about what the future looks like and the little things that mean things to you. In the future, you have to make sure those things are taken care of.

And you have to start planning for them now. So also, I'm part of the, something called the commission, and that's a senator, and today he's probably going to be, he is the mayor of Gary and Congressman Andre Carson and Bishop

Pinell and Dr. Pinell and there's therapy, so there's Tajay and his melody and there's Do It All who's the first city councilman first elected official that went platinum. And we also keep each other well versed

in law and education. And then the OSG with Dennis McKee. Law, education, therapy, prison reform, health. So I always try to surround myself with people that are the best at what they do. Like, isn't it advantageous to know, you know, like, literally, like, I've talked to the senator about diabetes, I'm diabetic, and how high the price of insulin is, and he drafted up a law and got to change. See, we don't know, we think we can't change things because we don't know how to pass laws because we're not taught that. But we can change things.

You've got to think most laws were made by people 150 years ago. Those people had slaves. So anybody that made a law that had slaves didn't make a law that behooved any of their slaves. And we still abide by those laws to this day. So the only way to change curriculum is for us to make new curriculum. The only way to change things we don't like. The only way is legal if it's law.

It don't matter how you feel about it. You see what Trump's going through. It don't matter. It's law. I'm looking at them. I'm like, see, I went through four fucking lawsuits last year all bullshit. But I know what it is in that courtroom. The judge is the king.

That's God. They make, you can't do that with a judge. No matter how much money you got or you're the president, the judge is the president in the courtroom. So once you're in there, you surrender everything. You got to go online. That's why I hate going to court. Because it's like...

Yeah, that's why I don't love airports so much either. anywhere I got to stand in line or like people are telling me what to do and they start feeling empowered because they could tell me what to do that's a bit of a trigger for me. For me too, I can't stand it. I hate it.

If you're saying shit, be like, come on, man. But you would never talk to me in your life like that. Facts. So because you're like an attendant, you know, it's like you're saying shit and you're enjoying it too much and you're pissing me. You get on my nerd. They really think you're doing something though.

You gotta let people live in their little world. No, I know you don't. I do let you live. I put the headphones on, you get high, take some mushrooms. I don't mind it, but once I see the respect gone, it's like, hey, man, I'm gonna fuck with you in. Put the hoodie to sleep.

I'll be outside. Please, I just don't want to travel. This is what happens. I'm gonna tell you what happens. Please, please. Okay, yes. To gain your dream, you have to evolve. You have to change as a person.

Right. So what happens is right before your dream is about this come true, there's always a test. Some dumb shit always happens to see how you're going to react to it. Right. You've got to walk away. So if there's like some disrespect,

you'd be like, but let me think it through. Because if you do, then you're not ready to go forward sometimes. I'm sure I've failed that test a lot of times. So I've been trying to figure out how to walk away. Because when you fight, even when you win, you hurt yourself. Like all my knuckles have been broke, and I haven't lost many fights. But every time I fight, I hurt myself.

I got to heal. Just because I knocked that nigga out, I broke my fucking knuckle. Now I got a heel. I'm sore. I ripped something. Every time, fighting is traumatizing. Like, you know, if you got to, you got to be prepared, but if you can walk away and you're not in the street.

See, the street makes you deal with things different because you have to come outside and protect a piece of concrete. You don't own to sell things that are illegal. so now you have to regulate words but when you're not in the street you don't have to regulate words and when you have a lot to lose that becomes the test so it's a hard test for people

because you have PTSD it's hard for that shit not to kick in it happens all the time you know you'll be like now you got it you know what I don't feel like sitting in a jail cell the day like you know what happened with freeway right

he flew in we all flew in we were all coming from because we're all busy. We all flew in and met at the airport to go to this, because where we are is like an hour away, so we could just ride together. So I was getting freeway from the airport, and something happened, we got the shit on tape,

but something happened where the luggage wasn't coming out, and some white people was flipping on the people that work there, wowing. And I'm like, damn, it's not even their fault, you know? So I'm like just waiting and shit. And then the police, came and they went directly because the girl was flipping so much

they called the police but they blamed it on the black girl and us and I went before when it happened I was like I said I bet they're going to blame this shit on us so they came right at me they came at El Boogie and I went to break it up and the cop was like racist like back to like

OD on me right and then I said yeah you got it and then we worked it out the girl was like it wasn't her and I was like yo your man was wrong but either way Freeway was like, yo, Old Dane would have never had that, like, would have dealt with that different. And what I know is that was a test. I knew it.

I'm like, damn, we're about to make the best music, but this shit could have had me locked up. And all that music could have heard, wouldn't have happened. Just because I'm mad, I'm sitting in a hot-ass jail in Florida. So I had to pass that test. But I recognized it. I was like, that was a test. Yeah, I looked for the test, the dumb shit. Walk away from the dumb shit.

It's the shit that never happens. It's random. Like, you know, I remember, you know, I don't know if you know about DD-172, but I just put out this currency record and it was going crazy. And I was telling everybody about the test. At the time I lived in Tribeca and Steve Stout lived up the block. So we turned the corner. I never told this story, so this should go viral free.

So we turned the corner and it's Steve Stout. And this girl, like his baldheaded chick with muscles, I'm with McKenzie, his white chick, and Raquel. But McKinsey, like, McKinsey could fight. It's a white chick. You would never know. I didn't even know. So anyway, so I'm walking up to him because I'm like,

because he's the one that was putting all that shit in the paper and doing all those disrespectful shit. I'm about to wash him right now. I can't believe God gave me this gift. I'm walking up the block to him, right? And McKinsey goes, the test, Dame the test. And I'm like, ah. So now I'm walking past him.

like, you bitch-ass nigger, and he goes, yo, I thought we took care of you, right? And I said, man, you were a snitch, because he told him a puff, right? So I'm like, you're snitch-ass-nigger, and I told his girl, you know, you're walking with a snitch. Every time I would see Steve Stout, if he was public, I'd call him a snitch.

Like, he's a snitch, you know, red carpet, I didn't like that. I never liked any total, I didn't like that shit. Right. I ain't got nothing to do with it, but I just, I didn't like it. But anyway, because he'd be trying to hang out with us, and I'd be like, yo, to me, you were like a rat.

You know what I mean? So get out of here. So anyway, word. So, and me and I got into him before, you know, I smacked him before, right? So we talked about that. But regardless, so now I see him, and he's like, we took care of you anyway. And I started talking about how he's a rat. So he kind of stepped in me, but the white girl starts decking him.

Boom! Boom! She has to do with, like, three right hooks. Right. It was like crazy. So he's all dishevelled and shit. And then the girl grabbed the girl, was like, she was like, you better get your man, bitch. Right?

So I'm like, you know, you're bugging, right? Like, chill out. And then Rocky runs up to Steve and he pushes her on the floor. And the police was around the corner. And I was always like, yo, this thing is a toll on. And also he was a dude that got the lawyer for, uh, and when, Jay Stad So Steve got the lawyer for

Utner and would be hanging out with Jay I'm like this shit don't make no sense You know what I mean? So I always thought the way about it But so I'm like Yo he just pushed the girl on the floor So I'm like oh you're going to jail So I'm laughing and shit

He's looking all stupid And his girl and then the police came He tried to run him like nah We know where you live But I was laughing so much The police was going to lock me up And shit Word I was like y'all not going to lock that thing up

I wasn't telling her They were saying is the girl He just pushed me, so I'm like, I ain't even going to say that. I'm just laughing. I'm like, you're getting locked up. And he had to give us $10,000 for that because he pushed Rocky. Hey. Ask him about it.

So he had to give Rocky $10,000. So with that $10,000, we bought a dog and computers. We bought the dog Dusco. So thanks, Steve. Because I was going to sue him. I was like, nah, I got a lawyer. Because he had did it to us. Right.

I mean, I was like, so you're going to pay her? And plus, he had sued. pushed Rocky. So I was like... Something that's my girl, Rocky. Okay, okay, okay. But at the time she wasn't, but now she is, but, you know, it was like, you can't just be pushing girls with me and shit.

Facts. You know? So he had to send something over. Right. He doesn't tell that story. Sending the wire information now. That should happen. Thanks. I wish I had that on tape. I remember what I had on. I had the Jets hat on.

but it was a currency jet saddle. I had some shelter Adidas and some the satin Adidas pants. Well, you were sliding the family stone. I had the white with the V. I had the gazelles on. I was like, I'm about to showcase. You feel me?

But it was funny. So, yeah, I don't know why I never told us, though. I kind of forgot about it. But yeah, that happened. That dumb shit, jim, you pop up at random. I got a, shit I didn't tape her sometimes. I don't remember. I tried to tape everything.

You know, I smoked. Right. But a lot of funny shit be happening through the years. It's been decades of this shit. Why would you like that, though? Like, just tape it. Because I knew. It didn't make sense not to.

If you're confident, you know, like right now, I know we make history, right? I'm going to make history. I'm going to make history. So tape it. So to get there before, it's historic as well. But definitely right now, because the CPMs, the more content you have.

Like when I was walking around with a camera, everybody was saying I was extra. I was extradame because I had cameras all the time. But I got everything taped, everything, every fucking thing that happened that Rockefeller from before. I got the big VHS tape. I got everything tape. Everything. And on gold. You're not having that shit. No, I don't be watching that shit. It shouldn't, you know.

Trauma time. No, I ain't trauma. I just don't have time. I should watch it. I bug it. Again, I'm not really so worried about my past so much. that if, like, I was fucked up, then I'd be like, yo, listen, we got a button. But again, what I would have did, I'd have put it on another platform. Now that I got my own platform, paid and full.

You're funny. All that shit. What? Tell me if I'm falling up, like, man, let's get these tapes. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Right? You know, I haven't made those desperado moves yet. But I always have that if I got to. You know what I mean? I can have to fuck, bro.

Grab the tape. I got shit. You don't even know. what I got in the cut. I can show y'all. Listen, this and shit. We see, oh, you're treating lit. That's nothing. That's nothing. Clips. I have everything. Everything you said made sense. It's just like

how a motherfucker going to sit here and be like, why, name? Like, okay, might not agree with your presentation. But, yeah, if the CEO, I'm riding with my CEO, man. I'm just ride with my CEO, man.

He said nothing wrong, even though you probably don't like it. But so, like you said, somebody got to go in there and say this shit. There's probably a couple of names I said that aren't going to like it. But you notice when they do interviews now, they don't even, you already see what Lear does an interview? Because now that I started talking about the CPMs, they've got to clean their shit up. You notice now they're trying to talk CPM. And that's cool. I want them to change their language.

Yeah, I know that you're having meetings about me. So you could tell that when he does his interviews, don't bring up. Damien Dash. And I don't know why nobody asked him no questions about me. He told him that too? Here's the thing. There's always rap beef, pause,

and they glorify that. I have CEO beef, pause. I'm not doing to win no rapper. I want Lee Orr. I'm not going to, he's not from my culture, so I'm not going to punish nobody from my culture,

except Steve Stout, just because he conspired. You know, and now, the funny shit is now, he's fucking talking all that independent shit and he's the main, he took my business model, raised money in his corporate still. You feel what I'm saying?

And then he had to call me and say sorry and I was like, it's about time. But now I'm mad again because unsaid that shit that they had meetings and shit. And I'm like, now I'm mad again. I'm not fighting or nothing, but we're going to tell the truth. Fuck it.

Yeah. It's natural. Niggas, fuck my money up. Then when you say your money, money, you invests, money, your blood, sweat and tears. Let's take it another level. My family's money. But the thing about it is my kids, I always make sure my children was millionaires. They never had this ever not.

So while I'm compromised, I always make sure their mothers, like Rachel had a company. That's a whole other story. But they all live and go to schools with everybody that got billions. So they, that's all that matters. So to me, I'm like, long as y'all good, I could go hand. And I just love to bed at all. I don't know why. Yeah, you do.

I can't hold a dollar. It's a Harlem thing. Rush. Knowing that you're a hussie, you know you're a hustler. You ain't worried about the dollar. I never do. You got in love with a hustle. But you've been having money for money.

I was never an adult and I've been a millionaire. I don't know what it is to be an adult and not be a millionaire. But I know what it is not to be a millionaire. million. You know what I'm saying? So I appreciate it more. But I made my money relatively quick. Again, I had a whole fucking person's career that they'd have it

in 30 years. I had it in like 15 years. I was done by the time I was 35. I was done. What made you say, man, I have fucked this shit. Look at it. Everybody breath stink. And, for real. And it's just, I'm not, it's not a real model. I'm not, nobody's a boss.

right there ain't no real money like I sold the company I didn't make yo we saw Rockefeller I did that shit was going for that shit at the bank

I never I never looked at that money from Rockefeller I never ever saw it I never wasn't like I was I'm always behind the eight ball because I always dream big

so again I always said like yo my bills are 100,000 a month and I only made 90 I'm 10 short I'm broke but I still made 80 that month but niggas will still say

you know he was late You know what I mean So that's what my life's always been But like my bills be like Four-fifty a month So I might be down a hundred Two months you're down to a quarter million You know

And then you got to regroup But that's the game and publicly With no With no fun Or no No credit Nothing no credit Tax problems

I'm like yeah You know I'm you know Drew was saying it earlier He was like You're like, yo, you're setting up for the comeback of the fucking century. And first I laughed, I'm like, it's literally a comeback. I'm like, I guess it is.

But I never looked at it like that. I just looked at it like I'm doing my own thing. They're doing my shit. Yeah, but yeah, get ready for the comeback of the century. The network comeback, but I never had a network, so this will be some new shit. But definitely the clothing, the sneakers, and the music. And the books is not a comeback. I wasn't doing that before.

And, you know, curriculum. Let me rock with your own sneakers. Hey, we can make a sneaker. You can make one any time you want. Yeah. I can design it real quick. I can show you. That's easy.

I don't want to go through them no way. You don't have to. Look it. See how easy that war? See, I told y'all I want to hold no more means with you, bitch, niggas. But you know the thing is? That's easy, blah. Yeah, but your bottom line will come with that, you gotta push it and do the shirt.

Yeah, I'm winning the one. I'm a general. I'm a soldier too, though. I get it. I know. This shit is all independent. Where? You all got on your clothes.

Like, hey, you know, everybody working here. Everybody working here. This thing is dope. It's a good, I'm, I'm impressed. Appreciate it. You're going to make a lot of money. Because nobody has this, say you're at first. Or people have it, but they,

see, what you have is you have talent so you don't have to pay nobody. So that's why, like, you know, I discovered Kevin Hart. I didn't have to pay Kevin Hart, really, for paper soldiers or for the death of a dynasty. Paper soldiers without change. But that's what you do.

You discover people, then you don't have to pay so much. To me, after people blew up, It's corny to pay a lot of money to fuck with him. It's like, now you bottle service. The cool shit is to discover people, and it's cheaper. You understand what I'm saying? So, y'all... Be the king of the artist.

Y'all could make movies in here all day. I don't know. Like tomorrow, y'all can make one. With these cameras and y'all got sound lights, location and talent, and all these people, I'm going to show you how to do it. But just get a DP. And he's DP, just get a DP.

We got three of them. Where they are? Joe? Where are you at, Joe? Joe's not. There you go. Joe? Where's your?

Bro. Joe said he's not a D.P. He's a D.P. He controls the motherfuckers dead. That's not a D. A D.P. is behind the camera. Director of photography. Yeah, but they're not there.

No, but that's just his second job. Oh, but you, you're a D.P? I didn't ask that. I said you a D.P. It's a trick question. It's not. He tells them all the shot. Why y'all?

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you get your podcasts. Let me, right. I mean, what's your favorite lens? I'm a cook lens. Yeah. I'm a cook lens. Cooks anamorphics. Facts.

So you should direct. I do. So. Go for women. Damn. This is what I'm saying. For certain things, like for, for, for, um. For America New, I'm not the CEO of that company.

And the reason why is because I don't understand ad technology. So Prophecy is the CEO because he understands he built the technology. He runs the money. If you're going to get an operation, you want a real doctor. And there ain't no disrespect because if you're doing all that, then you don't want to be the DP. That person has to focus. You need a line producer, right?

That person will do all the administrative stuff. and then you need an AD which is an assistant director that person will be the asshole on the set that'll tell everyone to shut the fuck up and he's the person that will give a shot list and all of that and keep you on a schedule you need a DP

a DP usually need someone else to help him with the camera if you've got seven fucking cameras you definitely need at least two people to run them and then you need somebody on the lens right period and then you need somebody on sound and then you need a gaffer and lights so that they could move shit around in an electrician.

You also need a DIT, someone that's going to get all the footage. Right? Now, if you have one person doing all that, that's going to be pandemonium. So that's where, you know, if you're going to do that, it's like six, seven people you need. You need catering, you need hair and makeup, and you need clothes. You need someone to do set design.

So someone has to be able to build the set and do that and just that and the third. And that's it. And I like to have an editor on the set so I can start editing and see your shit. And that was easy, right? Yep. Bung, that's what you need.

But if you don't have those things, then you're going to be like, we're going to have a talk, boy. We go have a fucking talk. But the thing is, you got to know that. Right. It's not for him to know. It's for you to know that he doesn't know.

So when you do a business, that's why I have to direct. because I got to know everything because I'm paying for it. So I know craft service. I know how much every potato chip costs. I know how long it takes to break down the set. Oh, I avoid everything that waste time because time is your enemy. You know, I was telling me, you got 12 hours to shoot.

And if you're doing it with the union, then anything after 12 is time and a half. And they got to eat every fucking hour. That's everybody always make sure they know when they got to eat. So if you're taking the time to set some shit up, that's hours, breaking it down, moving it, and now you got to eat. You just waste it like six hours. That's why a lot of times you go to sets, people just sitting around doing nothing. My sets don't look like that.

I make it where it's 15 minutes. I got to shoot 10 pages a date. So now I know how to hire somebody and tell them how to do it, and I'll be like, that's impossible. Nigel, I just did it. It went in theaters. Prince of Detroit, which is coming out December 2nd. 7.

We'll poppy go shit, oh, gee! Right. So I just made a movie. I just made three albums. I just made a television network. I just made some sneakers, some glasses, some comic books, and some books. And I'm selling all of them.

And we're still independent. It can be done. You just got to love it. And you've got to be good at what you do. Everything I do, I don't do it for the money. I do it for the art. I like the process. So if you're just doing it for the bread,

then it ain't going to work out for you. If you make movies, then the process of making it. movies should intrigue you. If it's not an art, then you only doing it for the money. Like sometimes people that will put me in the movie and I'd be like, do you act?

I want to act. Do you look at movies? Do you study the art? Do you like acting or do you just want to have girls and be famous and look cool? That's two different things. If you're a real actor, you want to suffer, you want to show some kind of poor, they call it chops, you want to show your range.

I just want them girls that look cool. That's the type of movie. you're going to make. But me and them. Don't nobody never take that option. Yeah, but like... But that can come, though. Well, no, the thing about it is

if a person's comfortable and, because also the most loud people, you could ask Nicolette. So when people come, because sometimes people come in the studio that don't have any talents so they just talk too fucking much. I just put a camera on them.

Then they shut the fuck up. They get shy in front of a camera. You talk so good, but you won't do it in front of people. So I'd be like, yo, make some money if you want to talk so fucking much. Talk That's how you hold it

Yeah Because I'll be working some time They discount because what I'm doing It's fun that I don't have to focus Like you don't come into the doctor's office While he's operating You're dirty, you're unstirled You know what I'm saying?

Merth Ford So You know Some people talk shit and get in front of a camera And they get nervous They start talking like a weatherman you know

so if you're comfortable in front of a camera you can just be yourself then you know I find that most of the actors that go to school for acting aren't that good you know I usually get people that just have a natural personality and I just be like just act like that so if you look at my movies I never have bad acting

and they don't be actors both Beanie and State Property like the only thing that might I ain't going to say no Mm-hmm. Been tested. Nah, yeah. The person I was going to say, he can fight.

He's my man. I didn't want to do that to him, you know. No, but we appreciate you. Oh, gee, whatever. Woo. So, again, whoever's watching, go to your phone. Mm-hmm. Download America New, America at NU.

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They're just going to keep making movies. It's the funnest shit in the world. And you're funny niggas. My girl loves when I'm making movies, comedies. Because the set, everyone's heating each other. Like, what Kevin was a fucked-up dude. Because what he would do, if a comedian, like, Smokey, was getting ready to get on in front of the camera, he started heating them up

so they don't feel so good in front of the camera. It was a thing they did. And then, like, Charlie Murphy, you know, Charlie Murphy wrote Paper Soldiers. Hell yeah. Yeah, rest of the piece of chocolate. That was my man. Oh, geez, man.

That's what I'm saying. I was able, like, those things, Now, in hindsight, seeing how they've, like, you know, he passed and all the things he got, like he became really, like, he's like a legend. Like, not Eddie, Eddie's a legend, but his brother was like a legend. And I got to, like, really be around, like, Biggie, I can hang out. I got to, like, hang out with all these people, and I'm still cognizant of it to appreciate it and celebrate it.

Like, it bugs me out that. I knew Biggie. He's there? Yeah, I could tell you a Biggie story. Come on. Give us one. That damn it Usually I saved this for my network

But I'll tell you Now we all together I don't care I fuck with you I ain't gonna laugh I appreciate So Biggie used to smoke

And at the time I didn't smoke At all That's the shit we didn't do We didn't smoke It made me paranoid Because we were doing illegal shit

So And this was kind of When Biggie was beefing With the West Coast So we were like kind of didn't really, we weren't in that shit. So we were like, fuck that. We'll fuck with you.

And we were trying to get him to come to the video. This is for dead presidents. And what we used to do, I'd have meetings about, like, what are we going to do? That's going to be the most big willy shit. We always wanted to do something that was crazy. So, like, in my lifetime, we went to St. Thomas and had the boats.

So we would go to the BBQs, and I would just think about fly shit. And we came up with, let's play Monopoly with real money. so it was like bring 100,000 and when he comes through and also our thing was Christal no one knew about it so we always had the drinks so when he came through

we had like five things of Christau and at the time I had felt the way because Puff I felt was copying me you know so I was like they would see us in the club and then I would see them kind of like emulating our lifestyle because we was hustling and they wasn't but they started acting

like hustlers and shit so I felt the way had a little chip on my shoulders. So when he came through, I kind of was like fucking with him and like we got into a drinking contest and we drank like maybe 10 bottles like a ridiculous amount where I didn't remember the next day what happened. And you got to remember bigies like big. I'm not I'm not as big as him. And if you look at the video, you'll see all the bottles and all that other shit and on the table. And the next day, I called Jay and he was mad at me and Jay never, like that's why I was always surprised about how we, you know, shut, because we never had an argument. And he was kind of man and I was like, what happened? So I called Biggs and Biggs was like, yo, you wasn't no good, bro.

He was drunk, got in his car, you told him he was his favorite rapper, like all this shit. I was like, so I was so sick, right? I feel sick now. I was so sick that we went to Daddy's House, pause, Damn, that's a big pause. Whoa, that's a pause. I said pause.

Right. And we met, and I was like, yo, fuck all that. Now we got to get money together. And we ended up booking them because my strategy was to have biggie headline so Jay could perform

and open for him. So I was like, I fuck it, I just book them. So we would just book them so we could and we did it in New Orleans and it was a brick. But that's like a biggie story. And so every time I would see him after that, We would have drinking competitions.

So, you know, I'm going to say the other story for another show. There was another drinking story that's funny, too. But that, yeah. But that drinking story led to Jay opened it up for Biggie. Yeah. And then, like, we became, like, we were, like, really cool. Like, our crew and their crew, because they were funny. Like, Biggie was a funny dude.

And, you know, Seas and D. Rock. That whole crew, those are my brothers to this day. Like, when we see each other no matter what, It's like, yeah, because we were just, like, silly, but, like, gangster silly. You know what I mean? And their crew was similar to ours in respect that we were funny. Like, we liked to snap. Right, right, right.

So they used to snap a lot. Biggie was a funny motherfucker. He had jokes. He had jokes. Yeah, I could see the way he laying back sometimes. You got to remember, he put my name, like, say my name, I make him dash like, dang. Like, we were that cool, like he was saying. I'm like, Biggie said my name in the rap.

What? That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. That's hard. I know, right? I'm saying, like, I could be asking it. Like, I'm like, word. It's a lot of good moments. It is. But, like, him in particular, like, I cried. Yeah, like, the thing is, I'm just sick of crying over people in this business. You know, it's like, I remember talking to Dolf the day before he got killed.

And because he used to just come through for advice. That's why I like Chad. He just comes. I like when people come through just for advice. So you would be surprised at the people that I've, like, given advice to. And he just would come through for advice. He'd be in the studio and shit. Never, we never even, it would just come and just for respect.

And he was on the phone and he was asking me how the best way to, you know, he just was stuck. He wanted to get pause. He wanted to get at a major level, a level, but he didn't want to, you know, had all these deals on the table, and I was explaining to him who to hire. Because I was like, I could just tell you who to hire, because they'll work. It doesn't matter. And he was like, all right, when I come back, I'm a senior, and he got killed the next day.

And it was like, it was like crazy to me. I'm like, I'm still going through this shit. Like, just even mentoring people, there's a, there's a like, now it's like, before, like, it was like Pock got killed and Biggie got killed. And then there was like 10 years apiece. And that's why I was like Wiz Khalifa and currency. and, you know, all the, everyone from, like, all over, like, Styley, that was what DD-172 was.

It was, like, uncool to be beefing. It was cool and just smoke and chill. So that's why I did the DD-172 thing with the galleries, and I started making records. I got so many records with Wiz Khalifa and Most Deaf and J. Electronica. But all those people were from different places. So it was like the first time. I saw harmony and then social media came and that was like the average it's like I wouldn't even want nobody that I love to be a rapper because it's so dangerous you know I mean it's like there's an algorithm there where people go to jail or get killed it's not like sometimes my daughters want to go to to concerts certain festivals and I'll be like it don't be really more about the people in the crowd it'd be like

everybody's beefing, so crews run into each other. We've got to worry about crews. And again, that's a program. They want us to fight each other for sport as a profession for an algorithm. Like, it's so profitable. And now it's like popular, and it's always happened where they have these insurance policies on the artists. So if they die, they make more money. So the more dangerous you are, the more bigger contract they're going to give you,

because if you die, they make more money. It's crazy. Like for any, like, major label, and again, no disrespect to drill. It's the way the kids talk, but it's dangerous. So as an artist, I mean, as like an executive, if I know someone's doing something that's going to put them in jail and they're rapping about it, I'm not selling that. I'd be like, yo, you're going to put yourself in jail, and I'm not pushing that.

Like, if I know you really doing that and I'm like, I'm not, what are you doing? Like, the one thing I'm going to, I tell people when they come around me, I'm like, yo, I'm hot. If you are active, don't even think, like, when we used to, when we first started, it would be times that our friends

would, like, be on TV with us, and we land and the fed would just take our friend. Or we go to a show. Like, motherfuckers, we make you hot. We're on TV. So if you're doing criminal activity, it would be best not to get in front of a camera or talk about it the record because the police now

I mean, you just can't do that. So I would say it. Like, you know, if you active don't even do it. You're going to jail. I'm hot. They look at me. You know, they're looking at me. That's what they do. Like, why wouldn't they? They're not stupid. It's logical. So I don't understand it. Like, how does

an executive, knowing that they're now making that person hot, also knowing that it's going to maybe make some kids think it's cool to do it? or usually the people signing it are from our culture see music is like drugs so certain kind of drugs they say keep it in their shit let the niggas have the drill

they're all animals anyway right let's make an algorithm we can make money like they make money off of our dysfunction every time we have like literally and I guess no one even talks about this but literally they paid Cam to respond to Mace YouTube, like they gave them money

to respond to a beef, a rap beef. Now, look, they worked it out and they get money, and I love that. But what if they was built different and they killed each other over that? Do you know how many paused beefs are funded? They put money, like,

you look like, yo, like, I can tell you so much shit that I'd be like that I've had to regulate, that I had to get out the business. I'd end up in jail. Because the violations in the street that they do, you would be putting niggas in the trunk. every fucking day or else you couldn't be outside on the street hustling but because it's

different unless you want to like you're like court tolerant or you have see the reason why niggas are getting at me like legally because they know I ain't got no money for good lawyers right now because I'm not like if I got a million dollars you think I'm gonna pay a fucking lawyer I'm gonna buy some make a movie and make 10 million dollars I'd rather lose I'm not if I ain't got it you ain't getting it I ain't got it and I'll pay you when I get it but I'm not paying all that money for lawyer but when I get some money I'm putting money on everybody's head. When I got like a million just to put on,

like y'all got it right now and you're playing, but it's not long. When I get some money for lawyers, I'm regulating. So everyone that kind of fucked up, I'm almost there. Don't think it's over. I'm putting money on your head. And if there's a statute of limitations,

then I'm gonna just make a movie about you. I'm telling you now. Dead ass. It's never over. Never over. And that's just me. You know, like, I don't know, like certain moods I be and I have certain demeanors. I don't know why I'm in this mood right now.

You're talking your shit because you know they watch? Yeah, I want them to hear it. Facts. America New. Download, America New, the revolution will be televised. America and you. And I'll show you how to get money in, you know, you'll be able to do it on your own

and get paid more than they pay you and you'll have more fun. Just look at what you want yourself to look like at 52 or 62. And now I'm like, damn, I can't believe my next decade is 60. That's amazing to me. It goes so fast.

When you have fun, it's like, every day it's just so much fun. I have fun. Like, as Rock and Nick Nick, like, even when we go to court, I have fun. I love that position I just ain't paying for him everybody won't be the boss but they don't want to

scratch when it's time to pay they don't you're not a boss until you've been a boss this concept of boss is not a light term it's like general you cannot say you've been a general unless you went to war when do you know you are a boss I'm my mother died and I had to take care of myself at 15

that's when I was like you know once I had a better card than my teacher once I was like making more money than my father and I'm still a teenager I remember I made my first millions I'm first generation and what do you think it looks like to be

like 19 or with a record deal and then like 20 like with millions of dollars like what do you think that even looks like now that I'm older I'm like I wish I could see a kid that young doing that and what that look like I know why everybody body's butt hurt.

I was a lot, and I still am. This is what you would want me to look like if you knew me back then. You would say at 51, you wanted to see him like that. You don't want to see me like fat doing the dance. You know what I'm saying? Like you're not crispy. You know what I'm saying?

You don't want to see that or dame dance. You don't want to see that. I don't want to see that. You want to see this game then. This is the dame dance you wanted to see. See, so, you know what I mean? Think about how many people you've met that you thought were cool because you didn't meet him

and then you're like, you think it's corny. How many times that happened? Three, for sure. I know for sure. Can you tell me? Man, I never met you, man. Tell me some shit. Tell me the three times he was corny. Who was corny?

Who was disappointing? Shit, most of them. But you said three in particular. I answered all you. No, I don't worry about it. Who me? Yeah, what's your top three disappointments? Who are corny?

That you just thought were cool. Then when you met him, you were like, that's not who I thought that was. I ain't really had no disappointment, for real, for real. I'm like, man, what the fuck? You tripping. Is the name of this politically correct? No, but we had somebody, no, we actually had somebody like, you could tell, you like, oh, you want to be like,

You ain't tripping, but that's a health issue. You see what I'm saying? You're like, oh. All I know is I didn't get the answer to my question, but I- Yes, you did. Not really. The motherfucker was slow, man. Who?

Who? Who? Now I sound like an owl. Now I'm an owl. Who? Oh, hey, oh. He might not be slow to a miracle. But he'd be slow to us.

Who? I'll let you know. Who? Oh, let you know, nigger! Ah! I think he's a funny-ass, thinker. He's a funny-ass, think. You know?

You're a funny, nigger. Oh, yeah, bro. Hey, boy, you're playing, boy, this motherfucker. He's a fish. The American new shit. Mm-hmm. So this shit for the kids. Applefish, yeah.

I can dialogue this at the crib. Or, uh, Roku. That's why I'm waiting for Roku. for Roku and Samsung. That's why I haven't launched. That's why I'm not like saying I'm launched. I'm just telling people. My goal is to launch

and have at least 100,000 downloads. So I'm getting there. And I want to prove to the world like literally I haven't paid for a dollar of marketing or promotion, I'm going hand to hand. So also as a general, I want to show everyone that

looks up to me that if I can hit the block, and promote my shit myself, if I could get $100,000, like I'll personally give $100,000. Because when you open up a block, you've got to give our samples, right? And usually on the block

there's some other people, so you got to be cut. Oh, no, no, come in, you running the crack, you know? So that's what this is. And I was doing that for illegal shit, for shorts. So why wouldn't I do that for this billy?

So like I said, I sold three companies already. The music business, I didn't make no money. Fashion business, it wasn't enough. With the rate, that shit, was fucked up. I didn't even get my money back in solar business. So I know what businesses and what they yield what the exit strategy is, I'm like, what makes the

most money? A network. You sell a network, that comes with billions. So it's like, I just grind. I'd rather just work 10, 15 years for something for the big lick. Pause. Because it's always about it's always about... Ooh, that was a crazy, Paul. It would have been.

It would have been. I understand, but it's not. But it's not. But it's not. But pause. What I thought about, I like, shit. But I said poor. So, you know, game, I forgot I was saying. The billions, network.

Oh, so, yeah. So, you know, when you sell a network, it comes with billions. So when you have an exit strategy, you want to know how much you're going to make. But you want to make enough that you can sit down. I don't want to make enough

to where I can't buy a football team and a yacht, or I got to keep flipping. I always make just enough money to re-up and then keep flipping. So my model has just been like in the street. I just flipped. So once you know how to flip, you don't have to listen to nobody no more.

I'm like, yo, no matter what, I can make $100,000 a year. I could just live normal, but I can't live normal. So it's just about the amount of bills you want to pay. I want to pay a million a month, and it don't hurt. Pause. You feel what I'm saying? I like the life. But I'm all right with paying $200,000 a month.

But that's when I'm broke. It's all relative, right? Like some people, right, their mentality is ridiculous. Like, no matter what, they think broke. So if you're going to be a thief, I know some people, I'm not going to say any names, but they used to rob 7-Eleven. I'm like, why would you rob a 7-Eleven?

Like, why wouldn't you rob some more expensive shit? You even think in robbing broke. Like, you're not even dreaming in robbing rich. Why don't I go steal a rose or something? I'm like, why if I ain't going to get a twinkie? Right. You know what I'm saying? It's just about mentality.

So you have to think in a certain level, and that's the only game that you're functioning. So I might be losing in the billionaire game, but I'm, you know, I'm definitely winning in the millionaire game. I'm not worried about that. You know, we fuck up millions a year, but it's into business. But again, I ain't got no bread for bills. And I'm always short.

Pause. Taking out one, I ain't got no money to loan. I just got money for bills. Well, you know, I got bills, too. Not your bills. That's the whole way to restructure the financing, right there. We only got money for bill. It's true, though, right?

We got money for shit up. You got to be specific, your bill. Think about, like, the money that you put into your dream, if you could just put that into dumb shit, but like, why? Why not put into something that's going to make more money? Like, why not? And it's more fun. Like, it's only fun when you're active.

Like, I like to be, I have to be active. That's why I don't want to talk about dusty shit. I want everything crispy and new. So remember I'd be like I changed sneakers every day and all that I change companies every day Every 10 years Same shit I get bored

Honestly with the music business and rockify I just got bored I got sick of going to court I got sick of arguing I just got sick of the shit And I got sick of not making that much money I'm like I'm doing all this shit I'm not making enough money Like why this nerd got more money than me

I always wonder like why this asshole he's doing something. They've got to be laughing at me. If they get more money than me and I'm doing the work, then how could I not think they're laughing at me? What is the smile challenge? No, nigger.

There was a stare down because I'm like, Nick, I'm listening. Oh, oh. I'm telling them doing the stare at all. And they were like, oh, you really listening? I'm like, yay, motherfucker, my son. This is my main chair right here. Oh, yeah.

Oh, Cam. Yeah. Because that's how I am, like, with business. I don't, I don't got to a certain standpoint where I'm like, with business, when you get a good lawyer that can show you shit that can cuss motherfuckers out of him on paper. This is what I suggest,

because you have a conglomerate here. Hire a lawyer will be cheaper. Put one on payroll. And he's only focusing on your shit, and you can watch him. I usually have a lawyer, but I would never, I'm like, I got it. Like, one case will cost a million dollars.

And when you're doing shit, you're going to get sued. It's part of the game. So four lawsuits is $4 million. And lawyers do shit to waste time. That's what they do. Like, it's an unwritten law. Like, don't squash it. And let's just make dumb motions all day.

I hate lawyers, bro. I hate them, man. I hate lawyers. They fuck up everything just so they can make money. Like, even this shit with Trump, I'm looking at his shit. And I've been, like, my ex-wife had his lawyers because we know my life.

and Trump, and I knew Trump, but that's another story. No, you're like you didn't say that shit. It's a true story, but so when we was beefing, because she was cool with Malani, and she got lawyed up with all their lawyers. So I know how they play, but it's like, I know a lot of the stuff that they were doing on his behalf. They knew they were going to lose,

but lose or not, the lawyer still gets paid for the time. So sometimes the lawyer will be like, yo, let's do this motion. that shit ain't going to work, but you still got to give him five grand for it. And then you get this bill, and it's like, yo, I didn't even ask you to do that. So they start doing

a lot of, so I'm like, I know all those actions, I'm like, ka-ching, ka-ching. And then I'm looking at the ones that, because he can't possibly be monitoring all of those laws. It's so many. So people, lawyers, they are robbing him. They are knocking. It's like karma.

So whatever he was doing, it's getting done back to him. by the people closest to them because lawyers are the ones you can't trust. Because when you're talking to your lawyer about his son's soccer game, he's charging you for that. I promise you, he was touching a button, pause.

He's like, yeah, my son, think about when you're talking to your lawyer, whenever you're talking about something that's social, tell them to stop the clock. For real. Because, you know, your loyal... And the one thing a lawyer won't... When you accuse them to doing something, their heart is broken.

I'm like, how are you so sensitive and you're a lawyer? No, they play that. I can't believe you would say that about it. It was like how, like, you know, Kev Hart's mad at me because I caught him in Barney's with uggs on and cut his ass up and put it on Instagram and he's mad at me.

And I'm like, nigga, you're a comedian. Like, how could you cut me up every time you see me? You won't post my shit on Instagram or nothing. Post my shit on Instagram. Kev, that's what I want you to do. That's all. You my nigger But damn, man, just post it up

It don't cost you a dollar Damn, I put you in your first movie Help a nigga out And so, not even with money He's like, yo, just re-posed I asked him the shit We were with, like I was with Tiffany Haddis

She's really talented, by the way She's dope She's ill But she was at one of the studios In Burbank making music And she facetide, Kev And I'm like, Yo, why you don't help?

He was like, what you want me to do? Why'd you do rock and roll? You're watching me? Just reposting my shit. I'm not reposting it. In this order. I'm not reposting you doing rock and rom. You're watching me and shit.

You know what I'm doing? Just post up. I gave it back to Tiffany. He was going, get out of there. Get out of there. That's my word, but I don't know if it was a joke or not. You know what I'm going to run, run. I was like, damn, my man.

I don't know. I don't know. But you know, what's the name? name, Tori Hart. She's in the Prince of Detroit. Yeah, his ex-wife is in a printout. She's in a couple of my movies that I directed. Tori Hart. She's good. She's actually

pretty funny. Is she a comedian? Yeah. You didn't know that? That's fucked up. No, I say I'm a permanent. Oh, yeah, yeah. She's a comedian but, like, in front of the camera, she does a drama role. There's a part in the Prince of Detroit that I think

she could get, like, an award. It's just really intense. Like, you know, she's, but But then she's also funny, really funny. She got, she has good chops. Pause. I'm gonna tell her care to repost your shit. I'm like, man, go poll damn shit, man. Everybody pound repost dame shit, care.

Go, go poke, go, go, go, go, go, why won't you repost the dame shit? It's free. Man. You know, it's a whole other business. You got like 80 million followers. Exactly. What do you mean it's a business?

Oh, we need to have you. It doesn't cost a dollar. It doesn't cost a dollar. I do it all the time. If you look at my Instagram, you'll be like, what the fuck was that? I don't even care. I'd be like, yo, whatever.

You're my man or something, and you got work. And my block is clicking. Why wouldn't I put your work on the block? We ain't selling the same drugs? Come be on Celebrity Square. I got to look at it first. Who's it on?

What's it on? It's my shit, nigga. Oh, yeah. It's in here? No, it's on VH1. Oh, you're all right? Yeah. Who else is on it?

Can I'm producing it. If Kevin's on it with me. Y'all can't share the sentiment. Squetto. I don't have to be, I don't pause. I don't want to be in the center square. All right, man. I'm going to talk to the network.

Fuck the cab. I'm a heat cab up. No false? Pause, you're right. Yeah. I wonder who's going to say it. Pawns. Paws.

It's the most pauseful shit. So let me tell you the rules of pause, so you know, pardon me. Pause. If, let's say, I had said something wild, and you would have said, hey, yo, then you would have been able to laugh at me all night. So if I say pause before you say a yo, I'm teaching on another level of the game. Right, because you're all invented this shit. Yeah.

So that's the part that people don't really know. There's a couple of different levels to it. But that right there, so I was thinking, I'm like, but he didn't say a yo, and I did say pause, so now they can't go viral. So a yo is the cold word of, nigger, I got you. It's like a yo is there. Like, oh, yeah, if you say a yo, there's no turning back. You got caught.

Damn. If you were to say a yo, he would have had you. You would have been laughing at me still. But by him warning, you said, you weren't going to say, Paul? So I gave him a pound. He said, who? You saw my natural instinct was like good. Remember I gave your pal?

That was like an assist. You could have killed me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I said Paul. It keeps your mind sharp, too. But you got to remember, our intent wasn't for anyone to know it. It was just like a secret code. So people would ask us, you were like, you got to figure it out.

So it took to now for people to understand it, but if you look at, like, for the whole history of Rockefeller, we always were saying pause. But, like, look at Cam. Can you imagine if I get caught? The motherfuckers, maybe, it's like the jokes are crazy because I made it up. So, you know, but it keeps you young.

You know, my crew to best out. We still argue. We still have fun. You know, and again, Drew went to school with me, right? And again, it just happened that, you know, he ended up doing what he do. Paul's here, but he sat behind me in the homeroom, and he could tell him, pause, that's home room.

That's not crazy. You sat behind me? Yeah, that's kind of thing, pause. That's when they're back, see, now it's funny, right? It's a funny game. Now, Land is fucking with it. Look how hard you have, Paul. But anyway, he can tell you, like, we've been having fun since high school.

That's in fuck with you. Hey, yo. Nah, you're right, though. That's why I don't talk to dudes that much. That shit crazy. And when you're talking to girls, there's no pause for girls. Like, when you're talking to a girl... It's like, you can't wait to get a nigga.

What, pause? But you know what I'm saying? I'm giving me another rule. I'm giving you another rule. Like, when girls be like pause, you'll be like, you're not in the game. They'd be so mad. But when you're talking to a girl or if it's about a girl, it's not a pause. Oh, so she was like, yo, pause, my nigga?

I'm like, chill, man. And it'd be funny sometimes because, like, Like, young kids, when I talk in front of schools, and I'd be, like, pause, and they laugh, and they're like, how do you know about pause? I'd be like, y'all don't even know I invented it. Right. It's so funny.

So even down the slang, it's still here. It's still present. So from slang to style, to everything that I was saying, mentality, it's all relevant now. Hence, I was in the future back then, and that's why I stood out. I was coming from the future, pause, and y'all was like, yeah, this is wild. I said Ports

This is a motherfucker ill, man How you feel, Auntie? Got a little head New face in the building What's going on? You know we had name, man What's happening? He ain't got no memorabilia

Oh, look, this motherfucker's He got every Every He's a hip-hop historian You know how you go to every every show, and there's always one niggins you don't know, but he always backstage, Newface. You're like, who he knows?

Security don't even know. They're like, man, he's good, man. No, no. Everywhere he's supposed to be. You always be back here, he built you. All right. All right. We went to war for this cover.

You know, I heard Benzino, he was saying that, like, he went to war with Jay and we ran into it. His memory's cloudy. Dave was there, but he wasn't. Right. And I'll tell you what really happened. So Dave had promised me a cover and Dave Maze. And, you know, we had some agreement.

I forgot what it was, but he ended up giving Buster Rhymes the cover. So I was on my block, and I don't know if I know about the lunchmower, but I was with some kids, like the younger version of the lunchmower. And I was like, what? went down there with some pretty ill dudes. But like, you know, we had like a standoff, but then we

worked it out. But I remember there was this one dude that came in and I was impressed because he was like, because they were like, they weren't like, I'm not saying they weren't tough in there, but it wasn't going to happen like that for them. I don't think it would end up well. And one dude, and he was like the guy that

looked like he could have been an accountant, you know, like a Colton kind of guy. Right. He was like, Damon, I'm not scared of you, you motherfucker. You were like, all right, I put it with you. I was like, all right. And then we went and worked it out. But, yeah, I was, but Jay wasn't there.

Right. But that was, I don't know if that was this cover. But I could tell you about it. So you know how I ended up on that cover? All these covers that I'm on was punishment because they wrote bad things about it. So what would happen is, I was, I had rockware ads.

I had an ad for whatever movie I was doing. And I had an ad for every artist. So I was spending a lot of money with the magazine. So they would write, if they did some bullshit, I'd be like, I'm pulling my ads. So I would talk to the editor. I would, first thing I'd talk to the editor-in-chief. And they'd be like, I'd be like, yo, if you don't get, put me on the cover, then I'm, you know, whatever.

And they'd be like, no, I'm not doing it. But like, whoever, if a company is run by ads, the person that does the ads is really the boss. People don't know that. So I would go to the ad people and say, I'm pulling all my ads unless you give me a cover. And the editors would be tight. But every single cover was because somebody

did something I didn't like. This one right here, definitely. And that's Source Magazine. Even the one with every cover I was on was not because they wanted to put me on the cover. It's because they did some fuck shit. And you were like, I got some point. I'd be, I would love it. I'd be like, all right, I'm just pulling on my ads.

You know what I'm saying? And then they put me on the So they'd always have to put... Oh, shit. DJ drama. See, that's another thing is what I used to do was because people used to bootleg our shit. At first, I was man. But then I'd be like, fuck it,

free promotion. So I would get whatever DJ was coming up, like a drama, and then I would give them the Rockefeller mixtape bootleg. So I did that. That's why, like, when Envy was beefing with me, I was like, I put you on. Like, I gave Envy a mixtape. Right. So a lot of people don't know that evil,

I was bootlegging my own shit, but this is dope. I would just take, damn, what was on here? Me? You know, y'all. The whole TV show. Oh, shit, right? That's what it was. This is the ultimate, yeah, I'm not even reading.

Yeah, this is, so this is like, so again, back then, I did a TV show on BET, and I made a soundtrack for it. I had DJ drama, so, you know, I was always approaching things in verticals. So, you know, we, it's dope. If we was doing a class, I would teach you about paws, the octopus. But I'll show you how that another time. So it's always been to me, it's like if I'm going to do one thing, it's always going to be a soundtrack with it.

There's always going to be the movie, the doc, the making of it, the clothing line. There's always going to be eight ways to make money from one asset. You understand what I'm saying? If you do anything, it's only one business model with it, that's not very smart. So anything that you do has to have the ability to make money eight, nine ways. You understand what I mean? So every time you make a record,

you have the ability to make the making of the record, which is a doc, you could turn it into a movie, you've got the record itself, you're going to tour, you make the merch, and everything else. It's about the ancillary things.

You understand what I mean? So what an artist has to learn is that they have to become a CEO and make themselves a conglomerate, a franchise. Because usually an artist doesn't make money from selling records. They make money from the other business they do

from leveraging their celebrity. You understand? So once you're a celebrity, you have to bring that celebrity to a product. So that's what I taught Kanye and that's what I taught Jay-Z. So instead of us

putting our celebrity on someone else's product, why wouldn't we leverage the celebrity? We don't have to pay the celebrity, which is what they're paying for, and just make the fucking product. And that's what I taught everybody. How to leverage your celebrity

for your own product instead of worrying about the short check. So why would you let somebody to pay you to sell their shirt when you could make a shirt and just wear it? Right. That's the logic. So that was always my logic. It's just logical.

But, you know, when you're in distress and you never seen no money, if somebody shows you 100 grand and you never had one and you got, you know, some bills, you've taken that. But for me, it was like fuck bills. They ain't got no money for you. No, you pay them. If you pay them bills consistently for like five years and you late, they should have some

tolerance for you. They don't. Yeah, they do. They just beef. They don't put you in jail for paying something late. They just fuck with your credit. Fuck credit. Make cash. Buy a building and loan against it. I've never had credit. I'm cash and carry. I don't like credit because I spend too much.

I'll spend every... I don't care. I don't give a fuck about money. I'm not saying that people should do that. but you know I'm talented enough not to care like I could always I always know I could get on I'm never worried about that and again

when you have like four or five family and baby mothers that went you know hundreds of thousands a year because if I look at how much I paid in child support literally it's millions of dollars I'm like damn I've made enough money to pay my kids millions of dollars

you understand what I'm saying but you know when you have to pay millions of dollars then you have to make millions of dollars. See, what I tell people is never base your bills on your best year. Never settle your child support on your best year. Because it only goes down from there, but you still have the same bills. And a man has to go to court and say,

yo, I'm fucked up this year to get a downward modification or else you'll go to jail if you don't got it. Even if you're honestly really trying to make a company. So I got to go to court to be like, or they'll put me in, you know, I was in cuffs. said I owed her. See, they thought they had me. You know, they had me. That's a long story. But at the end of the day, it was a million

dollars, and before I got there, I paid it. So I didn't really have to go to jail. But if I wasn't had the money, I was still going to jail. I had to pay a million dollars. But I'm broke. A broke man pays a million dollars.

A oxymoron, but that's still how they portray it. It's so stupid. It's funny to me. I've been in the... in the back of a Rose Royce and the bum be like, yo, dame, you're going to be all right? Like, oh, fucking wrong with you? Like, I'm like, I take it.

Man. It's crazy. You'll be all right, man. I see it stress with the motherfucker. I'd be laughing at that shit. I'd be a joint in a fucking Rose Royce in the back with the driver. And they'd be like,

yo, dame, you're going to be all right. All right. Keep pushing. You know what I mean? Pause. Pause. Hey. I bought these shoes for a reason. Oh, ProKez? All right. Again, to Rockware, licensed ProKez, which is a dumb deal.

But now I have my own brand. See, right now I'm doing the collabs with Jack Claire, but starting in January is just going to be CEO. I wanted my entry point to be with a brand that had lineage. That deal didn't make sense because, Stride Wright owned it, and that was like a billion-dollar company that owned a lot of sneaker companies. They owned the tonics, and they owned a lot of shit. Spurry, but they're licensing it to me.

Like, I'm making it and paying them a fee because they didn't know how to... So when I had made the Nike Air Jackson, that was doing all that smelling and all that, that was cool, but then it got played out, but the people ordered a lot of it, and I didn't want to make any more of that shit because my son Boogie was like, yo, that shit's whack. Once my kids say it's whack, I'm not doing... So I said, I'm done. So they wanted me to still make the corny shit.

It was like when they made me make those fucking collar shirts for rockwear. That's why I sold a company. That's why I got out of rock wear because of the fucking collar shirts. I hated them shit. Do you like collar shirts? You will never catch me with a Yankee hat, a collar shirt, and some cuff. I hated that way. And again, when the market likes it, they buy a lot.

You have to buy a year ahead of time. If it's not in style when it comes back, all that inventory has to go off price. You take a loss. So that's what was happening. I'm like, I'm not going to make all these sneakers. And I had a minimum I had to pay them. So no matter how much I sold, I had to pay them a certain amount. But they were trying to push me to make records,

I mean, make sneakers that I knew weren't going to sell. And I would have to pay them regardless. So I'm like, I'm not doing that. And then the company was worth $8 million pro Kays. That's the volume it was doing. And I was like, if we, We make like $8 million, anything over $8 million, if we sell the company, we split. So if it's 50, then we would split 42.

Right. Right? So Stride Right, sold Stride Right, for the big check, I forgot to who. And I was like, well, ProCats did $24 million. So I'm like, what about my shit? And they were like, no, that only happens if you sell it individually. I was like, I'm out of this deal. Oh, shit.

Yeah. That's why I was like... State property is it? It's about the same thing? No, what happened with state property was when I sold my interest in rockware, I took a couple of million dollars less to take state property and to take Rachel Roy to take Ryan Kinney. And Ryan, from now, he got the bank and Kenny Burns.

So I was funding that and Charlotte Ronson. But I think we had spent about $8 million on it. So I took an $8 million haircut. But then it got real fucked up. So then I was licensing it to somebody, Tom Nassos, and behind my back, he went to Beanie and told him, yo, because I only wanted to make state property looking shit. But he went to Beanie and was like,

yo, they don't want it like that. They want like more rockware looking shit. So they went, and I guess Beanie approved and they made all this. So again, he did a lot of bullshit. I don't like Tom Nassel. I don't like him. And we should have a conversation one day, but you know you was wrong.

I could talk, I mean, it's a long story, but then, like, Beanie and I went out separate. And I'm the kind of guy, like, when I used to be in the street, if me and my man had a block and we start to argue and start beefing too much, I say, man, and I got the block clicking. Like, I actually turned this block into something, structured it, whatever. I walk off the block because I could just start a new one. and I'll just take the customer here and bring them over here so I don't want to be for my people so I just was like

fuck that brain and just walked away from it and it was basically a six and you know it was again them getting in our business and divided us but we're back but you know because of what freeways going through number one he has this thing called

Freedom Thinkers Academy he's been going into schools and we connect we connected through the OSG so because he was doing all that in the kidney and then he like lost two kids and he's still a general and he's the one that's booking the... He's like the general of state property now,

and everyone's accepted that because he's the one, you know, he's organized. So that's why I did a project with him. You understand what I mean? So we're going to bring it back. We're going to break... And again, I didn't have a platform

to put state property part three on because they're getting the lion's share. So that's why I was like, once you become conscious of the robbery, if you're real, it's hard to just let people robbing. So I was like, I got to do this shit myself. So after my experience with paid and full

and my experience with state property and my experience, all that shit, everything had to be done by me. And I was like, fuck it. I just got to put up the bread. It's either that or I have to like suffer. You know what I mean? Like I have to like listen to people I don't like,

be partners with people I don't like, argue. And the brands had to be about the DNA of my family. So that's why it ain't no rock, nothing, except Blue Rock, and that's just, you know... That's probably why you like film, making films. I love making films because I could put everything I'm selling in the film. So with Dame Das Studios, the model was it was a subscription, but when you watch it, you could buy what you see.

But I couldn't get the technology right. So I had it, but it always had bugs, never completely worked. And the subscription doesn't work. So I was like, that's why I has to be free. So then once I realized it had to be free, I had to learn the ad game. learning the ad game, I learned how they're robbing us. You understand what I mean? At the end of the day, I'm a very creative person.

So I like music, I like fashion. I'm like a conglomerant of thoughts. And everything I think about, I actually have to turn into a company. So it'd be real easy to do one company. But I'm always thinking in like eight companies. And all those octopus legs, see, the thing about, well, I didn't explain the octopus, but every leg, every vertebrae, has to have like a brain.

So, and if you can't afford to pay a brain, pause, then you have to be the brain. And it's hard to be the brain for 10 different verticals. But you have to do that at some point in the beginning if you're thinking like that. So some people might focus on one thing. To me, every company has to have a channel. That's dumb not to.

It's a vertical. You have to have a podcast. It's just a vertical you have to have. You have to have an NFT vertical, just even though the market is down. You have to have a fashion vertical. You have to have a curriculum vertical. You have to have a philanthropy vertical.

But now I don't think in company. I think in conglomerate. I used to think in one company. Now I think in conglomerant. When I was in the street, I had a desire to sell dust, heroin, Coke, crack. But I tried to sell dust and fainted. I didn't know how to do it without bagging up with no gloves.

You know what I'm saying? It was like it dries up. But this shit, you got selling in three days, I was fucked. I can't do it. So I just take those ideals and quit all that shit 30 years ago. Because I never was really completely, I was always behind. I always wanted more work. See, that's my problem is I don't have a ceiling.

It's like, I just want to keep being poor as bigger. I just want to be the biggest boss. But of me, not of people. Right, right. I just want to make my own movies. I just want to make my own music. I just want to make my own clothes. I just want to make my own books.

I just want to make my own shampoo. I make vitamins. I make anything that an algorithm could say someone could buy. I'm going to make it. You feel me? I'm going to eat it. Again. But it got to be good.

Right. But the work got to be good. I'm never going to open up a block with bad drugs. No matter what drug I sell, I got to have the best drugs. If you're not getting high off my shit, I'm not selling it to you. But in this instance, I made it like, you know, I made it, uh, uh, uh, I'm giving, I'm giving the American New Away. I don't even want you to buy this shit.

I want you to just download it. It's free. Like even the process, and I know, Chad, all y'all, the process, and I know, Chad, all you all, the process of probably getting to download because, again, we spoke about doing the white label with Vimeo to have it. You know, I'm the one that spoke to chat. To get to the fucking subscription takes too long.

Nobody does that shit. So I had to even make sure that was quick. So that's why I'm like download. You see how quick it was? Real quick, pooh-pooh. Now you could like zap it to people. You could, what's that? Like the Q-I-co?

Nah. Now, with the phone, with the, uh... Air drop. With airbox, like, you remember back in the date? You can now you can air drop this shit. So I can walk around by poop, poop, you know what I'm saying? I can just stand out in time. I'll just, I'm going hand-to-hand, pause, until I get to 100,000.

But I want to launch with, like, $100,000. Because then it's already ready to be sold. And go. But I might now sell it. You know, unless there's, like, a lot of billies that come with it. But I need to look at it, I don't want to be worth for Billy. that's the only kind of money I want to look at, the shit that's so big

I can't even see it. Other than that, put it in the street. And I'm not suggesting people do that. That's not for everybody. I'm not saying start 10 companies at one time and pay for it and start wars with eight, nine different people. I just think I'm a superhero.

I mean, it ain't no think about it. I know I'm a superhero. I told you. I'm a superhero shit. I'm that man. And when you're a superhero, you can't have regular problems. In real. So those are one of the conversations I would have with Kanye, be like, yo, we're superhero.

We can't be worried about regular human shit. What the fuck I'm going to be worried about some regular shit? I'm not a regular nigga. What's the sense of being a superhero and be worried about human shit? I got to be worried about the world and like, you know, if the moon's going to crash or, you know, I've got to be in the future.

I ain't got no time to be talking about. Today I was talking about some shit. I'm like, I can't believe that I have to come back to reality and talk about this petty shit. And the thing about petty shit is it makes you just as mad as major shit if you addressing it.

So for five racks, I'm going to be like, now I need my money. Just like I'm going to say that for that $2 million. That Lee Daniel owed me and I had to go get it. Man, I wasn't going to say nothing. That's something funny as shit. It was funny. In African American history. It was funny. Damien.

That shit was funny. And you know, taped it. Rocky taped it. I was like, don't stop taping no matter what. That nigga changed up for real Soon as he saw you Because I guess he He changed up when I gave him that $2 million And he made a lot

And actually I'm not gonna do that But yeah That's my brother Right And you know Sometimes you gotta go get your money And eventually you run into people So it was one of them things

Like I'm gonna run into him eventually But somebody told me he was there So I was like Get the camera I pulled up on him I snuck in there to get him Pause I was like that

I need it Well, I just wanted to know, like, how are you going to do that? Like, the thing about it is when I do good nigger shit, like, give you some money to go make your shit and then, you know, you don't pay me back and you got it. Like, why would you do that to me? Like, why? Like, I didn't do nothing. And, you know, like, regardless of what he is, he's from Philly. He knows how fucked up that was.

So, but, you know, we worked it out. But, you know, it's like a human algorithm. It's just, I don't even take it personal no more. It happens time and time and time again. Either somebody wants to be me really bad or someone just wants to credit for something I did. That's fucked up because you looked out. You just threw them to $2 million and didn't even say shit.

Here you go. The way he caught me, he would be like Oprah won't give it to me. Like all these billionaires won't get it to me. I think I might have had like six in the bank of four. Like I gave it. And the thing was, this is what was fucked up about. that, right? I was talking to my dumbass at the time, counting Barry Claiburg, who I was paying $2.50 a year.

He's the one that fucked my taxes up. So I was acting, you know how my taxes all fucked up? It wasn't like I wasn't paying for the guy's my taxes right. I was paying this dude. After my taxes was fucked up, I found out this nigga took the rock, took a million dollars off my rockware deal. That's why this nigga pushed me to take the deal. And the fucked up shit is when an accountant gives you bad advice, you're still accountable. It's just fucked up.

I remember, like, again, you got $4.50. I don't even get into it. But what was I just talking about, man? Them niggas taking your money. Oh, no, no. So what happened was, no, no, now what happened was, so I was like, we went to eat Chippiannis. No, I think that was Charles.

And I was like, you know, whatever. I said I'd do it. Well, first I said, let me check. And so I called Barry and I'm like, yo, I got six in the bank. Can you get me a loan of two million against it? But I still went to have a six so I could use it for working capital. And he said I could. So then I gave a man my word.

I said, all right, I could do it. So now when it's time to get the money, he's like, oh, I can't do it. I'm like, but I told him man, I'm going to give him $2 million. I only got four. And I still gave it to him because I gave it my word. Now, in hindsight, I probably wouldn't have did that shit. But at the time, my word, even now, like, if I say I'm going to do something, I'm going to do it. And if somebody in my camp fucks up, I'm not going to, I got to do what I got to do.

So that's why that shit had me tight. Because that $2 million could have went to me making my own movie. And then when I finally got the shit back, I had to give it. But yeah, shit like that. But again, if I was worried about money, I'd be mad about how much everyone. one's kind of robbed me. You know what I'm saying? You remember, I was Jay's manager.

So technically any deal I made for him, I should get 20% of it forever. I don't get a dollar. But I'm not petty like that. You know what I'm saying? That's why I'm like, damn, I could do something and they could get money forever and I got to go to court to do that.

It's hard to go to court with niggas you hustle with. But it wasn't hard for them niggas to take me to court and lie on me. and that shit got me tight now that's what I'm mad about I'm like yo fuck all that other shit we used to hustle young niggas took me to court

and to fuck my money up and it was a lie Big Z and Jay so that's like the conversation I need to have with him and how are you going to take me to court my nigga and lie

like why couldn't you call me now niggas me always humming that shit that shit that shit these niggas fuck with me and then sue me when I'm trying to get the fuck out of there and sell my interest.

Just my interest, not everybody, because they accuse me in selling everybody and putting it on the blockchain. Once it's on the blockchain, it's there. I didn't do that. I was selling my interest. But they just did it to muddy the water so nobody, everyone that would buy it knew it was toxic. So it is a trick. If you make it look

like if somebody touches something, pause, that it'll be a lawsuit, ain't nobody touching it. So that's why old dirty bastard record never came out, because every time it was lawsuits. So no one would want to put it out. You've got to be in a move to fight. I still got that, Rick.

Man, we could be here all night getting game, bro. Hey, boy. Shit getting serious, new. Man, that shit ain't serious. That shit's funny. What's good is everything is new. So I just told you about, you know, history. But, voo, let's get back to now.

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a Hulu. So I got a house channel, but I also can give other channels. So I just did a deal with celebrity boxing, so we'll be broadcasting live fights. And my man Peter called out Burdo. I got that on tape, and Perdo said he would fight him, so he's coming out of retirement to fight, or at least that's what we spoke about. So we'll be premiering now. I don't know if I should have spoke about that, but, you know, we're kicking it. That would be... I mean, these are just the CEO talk, boss talk.

Both talk. Everything I'm talking about is about the future. Everything I'm talking about is what we're going to do in the future, and from the past. I'm only telling you to why I did what I did now. That's the only reason why I'm referencing the past. So based on all that bullshit, that wasn't gossip. That was why I chose to be independent because of all of that robbery, thievery, catty shit, division of culture. I don't want none of that. I'll just do it myself. Fuck it. And then everyone's not going to have as good of a time. But now I'm back a little bit in my way, and it'll be more fun. Man, this is your first time stopping through the trip.

Oh no, I gotta, we gotta make a movie in here. What? You're gonna make a movie. I don't know how y'all not making a movie, yeah? Oh, we gonna make a movie? We got shit, sir. We got three scripts in writing right now. That's $80,000.

Hey, I would write that shit in five minutes for you, man. Do you believe you fuck away AI? Let me show you something. I know what a y'all gonna do. I feel like it's a setup because them thing gonna own your whole shit. Who? AI. Whoever created AI?

They create a whole script. Whoever create AI on your script. You don't think so, Dane? When all that's boss talk. I don't think you're right. Who created AI? Man, this is just part one of 15. We got to bring Dane Dash back on the regular, man.

They on here trying to discover AI. Only AI I know is Alan Iverson, man. Exactly. Look, man, we're about to get the fuck out of here. 85 South Show, Dane Dash. Yes, sir. Just get a flick, we'll sit down. Join Iheart Radio and Sarah Spain

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