The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - David Banner in the Trap! 🔥🔥🔥 w/ Karlous Miller & Clayton English

Episode Date: April 2, 2021

The 85 percenters have been waiting on David Banner and he pulled up in the trap to drop nothing but knowledge. Mississippi's own David Banner connects with Karlous Miller and Clayton English to talk about how he came up in the game! From sleeping on the floor to being one of the founders of the Trap Music sound, Banner is way more than a producer and a rapper - listen as he breaks down some real world concepts and look out for the GODBOX 2 on the way!Get yourself some GodBox Merch now!https://davidbannershop.com/collectio...​Hit Our Website for more info: https://www.85southshow.com/​Get our custom merchandise: https://85apparelco.com/​Subscribe To our Channel: bitly.com/85tubeWATCH KARLOUS' MILLER's COMEDY SPECIAL! https://vimeo.com/ondemand/karlousmil...​FOLLOW THE CREWKARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/​DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/​CHICO BEAN - https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolFool/​Director - JOE T. NEWMAN - www.ayoungplayer.comProducer CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/​Producer - LANCE CRAYTON - https://twitter.com/Cat_corleone_​It's Jon - https://www.instagram.com/holaj_o_n/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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We need to flip the script because you know how they be. We fuck around and YouTube, been in goddamn, took all the audio off this bitch because they say we don't have no rights to his music. He right here listening to it with us. Now I don't know if you've heard of this next young man that we bring it to the music scene, but it's J O.N. Pink Dureg. Just to let him know he got the courage. All the God box stuff I own, though, just so I own that 100% so that's what you feel.

You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, we know you. You're the type of nigger who when you got on, you ain't working for nobody. Man, fuck it. Yeah, first of all, welcome back to the 85 South Show. Now, we got a whole ass legend in here today. Thank you. I'm talking about,

Come on. Mississippi. Come on. Yay! You feel? Come on. Jackson. But the whole Mississippi.

Come on. I'm talking about we got that fire water. You feel? I'm talking about kamikaze you know. I'm talking about crooked letters. I'm talking about Mr. Bad Table Melas. I'm talking about Cadillacs on 22. You feel me?

I'm talking about me. Mississippi the album. I'm talking about baptized and dirty water. I'm talking about, come girl. I'm trying to get your pussy wet. Worked there. I'm talking about real fun, get down on the floor.

I'm talking about this man from my state, this I won. We ain't held one till he came alone. Now, we had some. but he is that one who brought us to the mother who made them look at us and say it's them kind of niggas down there I'm talking about one of the most phenomenal feats of all times I'm talking about black snake monged what's the coldest niggas to ever goddamn put them headphones on the place when we go when we go on tour this time

any TV show I'm coming on he's starting this one's talking about I'm talking about the shit Let's go. With the motherfucking slide door. With the studio winning, with the Mac 10. I already had a- I was about to say Tech-9, but it was a Mac-T-9. This the nigger who showed Tim a gun and made Tim say, man, what the point of that?

Hey, just because you said that, I got a, I got a present for you, bro. I brought this for you. David, Ben. Come on, man. Come on, man. Oh, man. Oh, man.

Oh, well. What have a pocket knife. This man. Hey. That's the knife from Crocodile Dundee. That's your knife. Hold on the whole time for you that. That's a knife.

That's for you. Salih, we got something else for you, bro. Stop playing. We got something for y'all, man, from ABV. First of all, even before we give all this, Salis, Salis, Salis is actually designer for ABV. So all the clothes that you see. What's up, G.

Y'all saw him on a David Better podcast. You make all the clothes. Oh my. And I want y'all to see the bag, test the bag, the whole nine. Okay. All that, you know what I'm saying? Put that down there in front, Lisa. Yeah, he all written, thank you.

Yeah, yeah. So, before we even start, y'all want to say something, man. I want to tell you how proud I am and what y'all created. Y'all created. Oh, man, I appreciate it. You got to get that side. I created something. Y'all, you all created something for you.

You know, and you created something. something for your friends that did the same thing. I've been watching y'all slowly, bro. You know what I'm saying? And it's just y'all. Doing y'all, doing the South, and I'm really, really proud of y'all, man. Because the one thing that we never had properly was a movement. You know, one of the things that I told people,

the reason why the West Coast took off the way that it did was because, along with Snoop and Dre and all them, there was also menaced to society. You know what I'm saying? It was also colors. So we never had everything. thing to line up at the same time. But now with the comedians coming,

and we're having that real Southern South comedian, because in a lot of cases, man, a lot of people look at the South as a character. You know, there's a real thin line between being real and then being exactly what the fuck people want you to be. You know what I'm saying? That was one thing that I learned from Tip. Like Tip actually taught me that.

He said, man, people are looking at us. We got a responsibility to hold ourselves certain way you know that's why I sort of after a while I sort of clean myself up and stood up a certain kind of way because we don't want to end up being what they think we are yeah we this yeah we that but we also where most people who are black get educated we're also the place where Elijah Muhammad is actually from Cordell Georgia you know what I'm saying these are the places where the real movement happened in Mississippi and South Carolina and

Alabama, all these different places. So I decided, man, that it was my responsibility, bro, to give our children and get us out something to look for. Because I'd never forget when I first went on BET for the first time. They really thought that I was a stone cold fucking idiot. And when I got up there and started talking that shit and started talking about Emmett Till and knowledge of self and all that kind of shit, but I was still crazy, high, and smoked out.

The motherfuckers didn't know how to act. And ever since then, every time something happened, they would call on them. You know, so I'm really, really proud of y'all, man. And keep doing what y'all doing, bro. Man, we will. That's big, man. That's real, bro.

Huge right there. And I, man, we ain't through with the gift, with the opening gifts and stuff like that. You know I brought mine. Oh, shit! I wanted you to know this. Oh, shit! He still got the crunch and shit, dog!

Right. Nothing. No. So let me tell y'all. I knew I was gonna run into you. Let me tell y'all the dope shit about this. So this is actually what sold. My album did well, but what I did was I created,

they said that this was one of the greatest marketing schemes of hip hop ever. And it's crazy when I was signing the big labels and shit, I would have these kind of marketing ideas and they would say we can't do that. It was about seven of us did one of the greatest marketing. They said what was one of the greatest marketing employees, but it wasn't employed. Because what I did is that if I could create a box of consciousness, the shit that made my wild ass straighten up. Like if I could put it in a box for somebody, there was a 50-year-old man that changed his religion because of this box.

I think he played for like Confunctioner, earthwind and fires some shit, and he was older than me. And he was like, because of this God box, I literally changed my religion. You know, so what I did was, I said I knew that this album was on another level. So if people didn't understand it, I had to go teach. So I went on a speaking tour, the same way y'all go on comedy tour. I went on a speaking tour. And the thing that people didn't realize is I didn't go to New York. I haven't even spoken to Atlanta yet.

I never brought it to Atlanta. I went to the country towns where don't nobody go. They think that people from country towns don't want knowledge of self. No, you won't bring your black ass there. So if you come, they're coming. even if it's man I want a record deal or even if it's because a girl like damn he looked good I want to fuck

however I can get them in the seats no I'm serious I'm a good looking motherfucker don't get it wrong don't get it wrong shit but once she come she's gonna get something and not literally come but you know

you don't have no talk so but when she come she's going to get something in her head I said, um, two. Yeah, man. They're underserved. They'd be happy to see you.

Even in comedy, I can imagine those towns. Like, they get overlooked by everybody. I went to Tennessee, a small town in Tennessee, and spoke. This older brother came up to me, said something that shocked me. Because white folks, believe it or not, come to my lectures too. And dude said, these people, old or young, have never seen a black man talk about. black man talk to white folks like that. I'd be on their motherfucking

ass. Dead serious. And he was like, bro, you're showing them how to stand. And Dr. John Henry Clark said something so powerful. He said one of the pathways to freedom is just acting like you're fucking free. That's it. Because if you act free long enough

because to be honest, when I first really started being conscious, man, I felt uncomfortable with myself. I told the girl I was dating. I don't know this motherfucker that's you dating. I'm trying to get to know this nice motherfucker. Because I even still to this day, I'd be wanting to rip a motherfucker head off. This motherfucker said some shit a couple days ago, and I literally almost reverted back to the old me. And what I tell people, it's meditation, it's prayer, and it's also the fact that I believe in vibrations.

I don't know what type of child my son going to be. My son may deserve to get his motherfucker ripped off too, but maybe because I showed that fuck, excuse me, because I showed him some grace, then maybe he may be, Maybe somebody will show my son some grace, or my daughter. Man. Right. Right. Hey.

And then when you said, rip a motherfucker head off, and I was like, he probably could do that shit. Because I remember Def Jam Vendetta. Nobody whoops David Banner's ass. You want to know a background story to that? Tina Davis, who was Chris Brown's manager at the time, she oversaw artist development. And like I play video games for real.

Right. It tripped people out. One dude had a TV show where you came and played video games. I whipped that motherfucker. I tore his hands apart. He was like, you game. Like, fuck yeah. I'm human.

I told somebody this one time just because I'm conscious don't mean I don't like the fuck. I just don't let it control me. You know, I still like the fuck too, you know? I guess you could say you got fucking control then. Yeah. You fucking right. In control. Yeah.

But the thing was for Def Jam Vendetta, I told you. mom's like man I get tired of southern is always coming in last night I don't say third coast we're at the third coast we're the first coast and in actuality if you study the right knowledge in actuality the map of the earth is actually turned upside down so the south is actually north and people don't know that look up google the real map or the real world map it's going to freak you to fuck out these white folks are so fucking racist that they put themselves over Africa to always, not just that to always make you feel like they're above you. Racism is so fucking deep. That's why the Nile River, they said it flows south, it actually flows north.

And if you really look at the pyramids in Africa, the pyramids, the development of pyramids actually came from the south. The pyramids were lower and lower and they were perfecting them as they moved what people considered. is the north right so in actuality that the information as it pertains to the pyramids actually came from South Africa and they developed them more as it went so-called north but that was actually down so we actually up I don't like motherfuckers saying down south I don't like to say third coast I say we we up South motherfucker we ain't last we cleaned in a bitch you just fucking me up I don't know where the fucking

I'm from no more than I'm in New York sir Mr. Shipp is Hold your fucking balls Bobby How you let this

stand now The nigga come in here Eat my food How you let this nigga come in here Eat my food B I knew he was fucking cold

This fucking's Winner niggins busting my balls B Why isn't You relax Don't busts anybody's Let's relax

Niggies don't want No smooth B B Mom, bring out the good pool away. Bring out the Baxidi, Ma. We got David Banner in the movies. We got David Banner here.

Put some of the screws here on time. Hey, welcome back to the five top show, man. Hey, you're not gonna bunch your balls over here. We got David Bannan and this fucking guy. This fucking guy, man. Look at these shit. You can be crying. It's a nice name.

It's the fucking, you want to fucking jigs. You fucking jigs you on your ass. You fucking cocks sucker. He's fucking cocksucker. I've cut his balls up. I got this knife from David Bennett. I do my own work. I do my own work.

Oh, shit. Yeah. Oh, man. I don't know why it took so long. I got to call this David Banner's story. You had a show in my hometown of Oxford. And I was like, fuck, I got to work. I was delivering pizza.

So I rode by the bitch. You was outside. pulled up with in the caprice with the motherfucking dominole saying. I was like, this shit ain't spotted. Shot back to work, came back, made it to the show, bro. But something happened, you was just outside talking to everybody, bro. Like before the show, I was like, this is the crazy. This nigga famous as fuck.

But you're not always here about Banner. You, you, he gonna talk to people. But I went to, I literally went to about six Banner shows. This nigga, I went like Dreamland, Holly Spring. Bro, when this nigga won the shit, because this shit hit in Mississippi. Mississippi before the world got the piece and he went to every motherfucking city

Coffeeville and Water Valley's and the Bruce's and shit. We went to see about six or eight of this man's shows. I want to tell both you all. I'm going to address something to both of y'all. I'm going to say something I never said on anybody else's show because you're from the career. All right, so what happened was is when people used

to come to the South or come to Mississippi, they should treat the kids and they would treat us like we was dirty dog. My fucks didn't want to come outside of V. Like, I don't do VIP. What I do is wait till right before, because what I did find out is that you don't want to become too common either. You want to keep the mystique and the superhero vibe.

So what I usually do now is I waiting to the end of the show, then I hang out. But you always want to make motherfuckers feel like, is he coming? You know what I'm saying? But what it was was I didn't like the way they made our people feel. And I said I would try to never do people. I have my days. And when I feel like that, I stay in the motherfucking house. But like, I still train at the YMCA.

I still go around people. As a matter of fact, what I used to do, when I would do 106 in Park, it would like, it would show the next day unless it was live. I would rush back to Jackson and go and shop in Walmart just so the kids could see me after 106 in Park to make themselves feel like they was that much closer to their dream. Yeah, yeah. The other thing was people thought that I got on in Mississippi and moved to Atlanta. That's a fucking lie. I got on in Atlanta. Bone Crusher introduced me to everybody.

And the thing that I would like to say from the bottom of my heart is I like to thank Atlanta. Because a lot of artists came here and they had to shed where they were from. They had to say that they were from Atlanta. Atlanta loved me so much and they wanted Mississippi to get on. They held me up and allowed me to use the vibrations from Atlanta to focus sit on my people you know and as soon as I got my big deal I moved back to Mississippi I lost millions of dollars I'm talking about like 12 13 million dollars because I went home because I used to write down all the shit that people

would say about me they said I wouldn't go do this they said I actually had a list and I went down and did all of them right before I went on my big tour I went to just about every small town in Mississippi so motherfuckers wouldn't have shit to say I've always been that way but What I realized, bro, and this is for everybody out there, no matter PEMC taught me this, no matter how much you do for people, there's always gonna be motherfuckers that talk shit.

And the reason is because most people don't love themselves. What I did, and people didn't even notice this, I knew, because I've seen some of my homeboys that would lie and say they was from Houston, say they was from New York, say they was from New Orleans, all these different places, niggins, we grew up together, you mine. So I realized,

that people didn't love themselves. And if they didn't love themselves and where they were calling, they wouldn't give a fuck about David Banner. So I made Mississippi popping first. Every fucking day of my life, I had a Mississippi T-shirt on. The jersey.

No, this was before the jersey. I couldn't afford the jerseys yet, though. I was dead, bro. I was going to get to the jersey because, like, before you did that, you know, besides Mississippi State at Ole Miss, we ain't had no team, so the niggas saw that in life.

You know, I cut the sleeves off the Old Miss jersey because I couldn't stand Ole Miss. but they were the only motherfuckers that spell Mississippi all the way out. Exactly. So I cut the sleeves off of the jackets. My first day of ninth grade was the Mississippi jersey because it had the whole motherfucking Mississippi's... And the other thing that I didn't do, people never noticed.

I never talked about Jackson because I never wanted people from smaller towns to feel like other states made us feel. I always represented Mississippi as a whole. I said I would never ever make people feel bad. And when y'all was talking about my shows, I used to literally do this. I used to, I used to stand up in front of like 5,000 people and say, make the last song, we make the girls get down on the floor, on the floor like a pill. And then I would step to the front of the stage, sit down, and sign every fucking autograph. I really believe one of the reasons why I am still here is because I really believe 45% of every one of my fans I've either taken a picture with or sign something.

And like, that's all motherfuckers really want is somebody to acknowledge them because the South had been shitted on for so fucking long. And one of the things that I did, I took everything that they said about the South and I turned it on the motherfuckers. Excuse me. Nigger, where your motherfucking grandma from? When I say, nigga, I mean it the same way them crackers do it. I don't say, nigga, as a term of them, didn't.

A nigga, what the fuck your grandma from? If you ain't from the islands, you're from South Carolina, you're from Georgia, you from Alabama, you from Louisiana. The first two slave ports were South Carolina and Mississippi. So you can't say you ain't from the motherfucking south. And what people don't know is there was an unsigned law between black folks. It was called the Black Exodus. So if you left the South, your responsibility was one or two things.

You were supposed to go to the north, go to the west, go to the east, and find heaven and either bring us there or come back and teach us. The reason why hood motherfuckers don't like up at these people, smart motherfuckers because they didn't do their job they did the same thing white folks did they went up north and then start looking down on black motherfuckers in the south when nigga that's what the fuck you from and you didn't do your job so since you didn't do your job we created our own culture and now our culture is hotter than you fuck that shit yeah so that is the that is the reason why that was the reason why i wanted to teach our people that there ain't nothing wrong

would be educated because people made folks feel so bad about not knowing if you are God you're supposed to teach nigger most motherfuckers build just to show how smart they are if I'm sitting somebody showed me this about

Malcolm X you know Malcolm X probably had one of the greatest commands of the English language but he never said a word that the ordinary black person couldn't understand if I'm out here pontificating I don't know what the fuck that mean so if I don't get the point

over I shouldn't have my motherfucking job if you don't understand what I'm what I'm talking about I tell everybody when I'm learning teach me on the kindergarten level yeah I'm smarter than the motherfucker but I may have missed something right so it is our responsibility to teach I never forget I was watching Dave Chappelle one of his Netflix uh uh uh uh uh joints and he made motherfuckers laugh I'm talking about the whole fucking show and he came right back to Emmett Till and drop Emmett tear on the motherfuckers and drop the motherfucking mic. I said, that's what you're supposed to do.

Laugh and leave a motherfucker with something to make them want to learn. Because I'll say this and then we'll move on because I know I start talking that shit. No, that's what you hear from, bro. No, that's what I'm telling you. That's why we got this. We've seen you talk that shit and like,

he needs somewhere else to do it. Ain't nobody going to be behind the camera talking about. Well, no. Well, they can't do that to me in no way. We got our own cameras now. That's what I was telling you, but seriously though, bro, what I realized was this, man, it's like, I didn't know why kids listen to me, bro.

Like, I got millions of kids. And Charlemagne pulled me to the side, and he said, you kill a Mike and tip, whether y'all know it or not, a lot of these kids don't have fathers. So the same way they get on the internet and look for pussy or sex or whatever fuck they're looking for, They're also looking for a dad.

So they'll pull up your speeches, pull up the shit that you're talking about, and you all are their fathers, whether you like it or not. And that sort of made me straighten up just a little bit more. And one of the things that I always like to do, I don't know if y'all notice this, man. I always fuck up once a year. On purpose. I got into the fight with the cops in D.C.

You know, I did a couple other things. But I actually do some of that shit on purpose. That didn't happen on purpose. That was anger. But what I try to do is show these kids that I'm not perfect. Doing a great job. And I actually try to do that. You know, I always try to grow and become smarter and get better.

But I want to do like Harriet Tubman did. To me, she was the most successful Freedom Fighter because she went to heaven and she came back to hell and got up people and went back like 80 times, dog. You know, and so that's what I always wrote. do shit like that already. Like when the hurricanes and the bad weather and shit hit the coast and Katrina and all that.

David Banner sent them trucks before anybody. And Lamuff, a lot of people know that, but a lot of people don't know that. You get what I'm saying? Because it's like with the whole way that the media is being consumed right now, it's like everybody has to reintroduce themselves to the internet crowd.

So a lot of motherfuckers who watch our show or fans of this shit, they never really heard a whole Tupac album. Or they don't look at the shit that we think is classic or great the same way. You get what I'm saying? Shit goes so fast. Right.

But like you were saying, why people admire you? Because you can give us a record where we can still be niggas. But then it's like, you're the motherfucker who'd be like, all right, now we're going to do this shit. But hey, let's not forget we got some other shit to do. And then they saw you actually stand on your words. So that's what's always commended. A kid told me one time, David Banner, I'll listen to you because you don't judge us. He said, you say what the fuck you got to say and you move on.

Or you drink or whatever the fuck you're going to do, man. man because yeah I tell y'all something that's personal to me man I just I just want us to treat each other better like like I see how hard motherfuckers say that they are and that's cool but what motherfuckers are me crackers be killing our kids like we know what these motherfuckinckle cops stay at we know what these motherfuckers stay in that don't keep keep their fucking word and I kept quiet because I know how black folks are about Democrats but Democrats ain't no fucking better than Republicans. These motherfuckers shine in front of you

and then they never do anything. The president ain't done shit for you. And what it is is, we give these motherfuckers, we get these motherfuckers our constituency away and they don't do shit for our communities. And I honestly believe that politicians ain't nothing but prostitutes. So you treat them like prostitutes.

First of all, what we don't understand is you gotta invest money into it. We gotta make them look good. Yeah, you do. You got to put some shining shit on it. Then after that, give some commands. Get out there, if it's rainy, you better dog some motherfucking rain drops. And then if you're...

Walk between them. Right. And then, if you don't do it, I'm on your ass. There's repercussions to you not doing something. Let a motherfucker not do something. Let the motherfucker say something about Trump. Let's let somebody not do what they were supposed to do. Their constituency is going to do something.

That's why we have to do the same thing. I believe we should find a kid. No bullshit, we find a kid. Damn, that motherfucker got the gift to gab. He's not scared to speak. And we all, like, about four or five of us, I already talked to Mike and them, me tipping Mike talked about this,

grab a motherfucker and be like, yo, we gotta raise him. Bill Clinton, they was raising Bill Clinton and little white motherfuckers like that since they were, look, kids. Say, hey, dog, we don't take care of you for the rest of your fucking life. But here's the contract.

This is what we want. When we get you in there, we want you. And if, same way you go out the motherfucker, they don't have a dime of your dope back, literally a dime, not a dollar, or your dope back, if you do not meet this criteria, we're gonna come see you. Bro.

Period. We should start a political party, just the niggas. I would love to see Republicans, Democrats, the niggins voted no. That's right, the niggas voted no. Proposition 1899 is not going through, because of the niggas, the niggins came down to the vote.

The niggas said, no. Bro, you know how they to fuck everything up? Where do we be the gods supported by the niggas? The niggas. Right, right. With nigger backing? Yeah, with nigger backing. If you got, niggas, I know.

Niggas is the army. There you go. There you go. With niggins. Yeah. Keep the dracosos, big. Keep your drakones, nigga. You know what I'm saying?

Donate some of that money from the block, man. Let the niggas be the army. The niggas are going to be the gods And then we're going to have the niggas See nobody coming home Be like, I'm going to the niggas Why not? You signed up to join the niggas all the time

They're already doing it I got niggas work for me Niggas in my family We're going to be recruiting We're going to have an office Yo, wait, let me tell you all the hardest shit I got to share this with y'all I got to share this with y'all

I got to share this with you I had actually posted about this And I took it down One of my One of my employees belongs to one of the most powerful black organizations in the United States and he said banner I gave my life to this organization he said but statistics show that the people who belong to my organization will kill me before the ops will he said he

said you help me take care of my family look at how much work I put in for that organization imagine what I'll do for you I was like, ugh, shit. He said, let a motherfucker breathe wrong. He said it's nothing for me to ride. He must don't know you got a knife this big. Well, what the thing about it was, and the reason why I say that, that's how I feel about most of these kids, man.

These kids just want to be listened to and want to know that somebody's going to be there. They're always watching, bro. See if you, that shit that you mean, they're always considering it. Because one thing I say about our children, our children are not lost. You just can't give them that bullshit. They want to hear that religion bullshit. They want to hit that politics shit. They know the truth.

Y'all motherfuckers line. Parents tell you to do as I say, not as I do. What the fuck? We are people or tribal people who learn by what we see. I used to always tell my trainers that, do 4,000 push-ups. Motherfucker, you do it first. You do 4,000?

I do what? You do 4,000, I'm going to do 4,000. You're going to tell you he did them before you got them. I just did them. I just did them. A motherfucker told you to do 4,000 of this shit? At a time? It wasn't quite 4,000.

It was a lot, though. I was about to see. What type of evil shit is that? It's under here now. Don't get it fucked up now. I give you a couple of them. Yeah, man, that shit is just dope to have you in this motherfucker. And you say you get to talking that shit.

That's all we do. And I'm happy. We talk a whole lot of shit, but you know, we mean well also. And you make the South proud because, like you said, we got looked down. that we got talked about so bad from those other places and when you see it you're like oh that's what it really is like you got somebody to point to like what is it like now to see the south where it is and you were one of the people in the front to say this is where it's going to be now to see the end result of what you was like predicting all right fuck

it here come I remember when I was on this radio station I scared the shit out this DJ he literally almost pissed on itself I actually laughed after I walked out of the studios. I kept a G while I was in there. He was criticizing trap music. And I said, sir, let me ask you a question. I said, who would you say coined like the trap movement? And he was like, T.I. And I was like, what album ushered that in? He was like, trap music? I said, what was the number one single on that album? He said, rubber band, man. I said, who produced that? He said, you. I said, so watch your fucking mouth. I said if he coin trap, if he coined the trap movement, I damn show help the coin trap music, the actual music instrumentation of it. Motherfucker watch your mouth and watch who you're talking to and watch who you're talking about. I said because you really only say trap music is because you're afraid of the older

Southerners and so you want to say trap music so you can pick on those kids. Watch your fucking mouth. That's soft music. So you, so check this out. This some cold shit. You don't never see nobody do this. So you, at the height of your career, and you're producing the biggest hits.

How you separate the David Bannerbeats from the shit that's for sale? Oh, man. Bro, if I knew Rubber Man was that, I would have kept it for myself. I didn't go to bullshit. You, that motherfuckerucker was that. I didn't like, like, a pimp.

Shit. Hold on, I'm serious. I did. I didn't like it, but it had, so flip, what I would do, I was barter. I was dead, bro. Like, people used to see me in big cars. I used to rent cars, all kind of shit. Like, I was sleeping on the floor. I was homeless. Right. So, I was a little bit broker. Then, yeah, I was fucked up. I was fucked up. I was fucked up. Naker, but you come

up. When I was in Atlanta, bro. When I was in Atlanta, I was sleeping on floor next to dogs, piss and shit on the floor. I went from bed. I never forget this white boy named Billy Hume. He did a lot of the early little John. He did Big Critty. He did Bone Crush. He did me. I had been renting cars and standing. in a hotel so long, Billy Hume literally came and hugged me and said, bro, you're not homeless no more. Go buy a car. Go buy you a house, man. Stop this shit. I was just on grind. You were grinding that hole. That's all I was doing was grinding, bro. And so like with the beats and shit, like I say, with like a PIP, it had PIPC on the, I sample UGK.

So I was like, well, I'm just going to put flip on this one. I know here like this with Texas, Texas, let me make that connection. And I was just going to make another beat. to it but everybody flipped and DJ Will DJ Will from Atlanta actually was the one to help change my life I think we were in the bounce I think it was the bounce at the time

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What people don't know is, as a producer, I'd be wanting shit to be creative. That shit was so dope. That tag. That tag. that I didn't, I didn't take no breaks, didn't change up, the same eight bars went through the whole fucking song. Every time I tried to do something else to that motherfucker

and that's what I learned, you lead shit alone. And about that tag shit, any motherfucker who put their name before they beat, they need to holler at me. You did it. You did it first. They will never give us credit. They will never give us credit for the shit that we do. I wasn't the first person to put a tag before my song,

but I was the first person to put my name. And Tilt was the reason why they kept it on the radio, because they used to take my tags off of my music, right? And Tilt was like, you play my mother, he called up the height and was like, you play my motherfucking record the way I sent it to you, that boy worked hard. And the reason why I did that is because Southern rappers used to hide their producers.

They didn't want nobody to know. But Jay-Z would say, Just Blaze, you did it again. Come y'all, you're a fool, boom, boo! And they would go up $10,000 every time he said that shit. Guru, you're a fool for this one. Yeah. And look at KLC from Beech, KLC and Bees by the Pound, who did most of P shit. Yeah.

Like, didn't nobody know who they were. I really believe that they should be right next to Timberland and Farrell. What Master P did in general should go down in music history. He changed the way people put out music. He changed the way people, and nobody gives him his business, business acumen for what he did. did but what they did as producers bro I went to KLC house KLC walls go all way to the top of this ceiling it was platinum plaques from the bottom of the flow on that side all the way up to the ceiling all the way over what most

rappers do in a lifetime them boys did in a year think about the albums they would do albums so much like literally bro and they was putting out what two three albums a month bro we we change culture and We're such kind people that we allow people to take credit for the shit that we do it. Now see, you're talking about credit and that's perfect for what I want to ask you. Because you produce a lot of music that motherfuckers don't even know that you produce. I did 85 major groups and people don't know. 85.

Ain't that a cold thing. Ain't that a goddamn. Hey. Hey. What's that dude that's for Michael Jackson, Quincy Jones? Come on. I did Quincy Jones, Maroon 5. Chris Brown and Justin Bieber, bro.

you know people know about most some people didn't even know about the tip stuff a lot of people didn't know I did my first big record was a thug holiday by Trick Dad that's so motherfucker but people didn't know me so it came out before I got poppy but I'm in the video skinny as fuck mountainers the shit yeah just like the thing though do you understand when you grew your beard long every nigger from the south with a long beard that's the David Bannon yeah you know I I I I I I can't take total credit for that. I think that was me and Pastor Troy.

Yeah, but see. Troy had it at the same time. In Mississippi, though? Yeah. Come on. But what I will say, that I know a lot of motherfuckers started putting, to start showing how old they were after I did. Motherfucking slid that in there, because I was like, man, Eric, I didn't never forget

one of my best homeboys at R&B singer. Right before 106 part went off, what went off TV, he was on TV in front of little children grinding in their face telling them. the drink. I mean, it was the song, but I was like, bro, like, everybody want to be a fucking kid. Like, being indigenous, being from indigenous people, you're supposed to be proud to grow old. These kids don't even know who to go ask a question because everybody trying to look like a baby. When they see this beard, they know I can go ask him a question. Mr. Bannon Wood is publishing.

Mr. Dave Banner, like, what do I do if I don't want to do if I don't want to rap this way no more? What if they try to make me do this or that? These kids know, they can come to me. Y'all would be surprised what rappers call me. at 4 o'clock in the morning, depressed, looking for, you know, vision. And that's the thing that I'm the most proud of. I went to, uh... I wouldn't be surprised,

because I stopped answering rapper calls that late. They can call you at 2.30, he gonna be on the phone. I'm like, bro, what are you on? Because I'm not on that. I am tired. Let me tell you why I... Don't let you have this minute problem before you start calling me me.

We could break this shit down. Let me tell you why I do, though, bro. I went through the worst depression. What? Ever do? And wasn't nobody there for me. And Scott, hold on, Scott was just about to say that! And then I ended up, I was close to die, and I ended up meeting Scott Parker.

He was a trainer at the time. He knocked 56 pounds off of me. And I had never drunk, I had never drunk like more than two glasses of water in the day. I had been dehydrated my whole life. We grew up on Kool-Aid, dog, and the only time I really drunk water was when Mama would let us in the house and we had to get it out of the holes. You know what I said? So I used to play ball.

I actually thought I was fly. I still smell good and shit. You know, after I played six, seven days, I was dehydrated. Scott, man, would come and just sit over at the crib, man. I didn't know what the fuck was wrong with me. It was crazy because I come from one of the poorest places in the United States. Real shit. I just started getting depressed until I had something to lose.

See, when you ain't got nothing to lose, you ain't worried about shit. But like, I had a million dollar problems. million dollar problems and my uncle don't know nothing about no million dollar problem everybody around me at the time I didn't have mentors and shit everybody was broke that was around me they needed me and I didn't have nobody to depend on so I think God let me sit in that place by myself and then he allowed me to meet Scott and Scott helped me get through some of that stuff but I know what it feels like to be alone dude I went from being homeless and two

weeks later being a millionaire can you imagine being in the middle of Mississippi and the motherfucker announced David Banner got 10 million dollars. Hell no. Dog, people don't understand the pressure that I went through. Lucky that I was the person that I was. But I know for a fucking fact, if I would have been an inch weaker, an inch shorter, I would have got eight up, dog. Like, people don't understand that we have, as black folks in America,

there's some underline shit that we got to go through. There's no other race of people have to go through, bro. And so like, bro, for me, when I see other rappers going through that shit, I gotta wake up. Because God put me through that by myself and it was so fucking hard, I said, there's no way I won't pick up that phone. Like, I gotta pick up that phone, man. Not too many people have my number, but those that do. And then I watched these folks grow, man.

I'll never forget this. He may not want me to say this, man, but... When Offset had, it is one of the greatest things that happened. Offset had just got out right when Amigos had blew up. He was walking through Midtown and I was like, what's up? He was like, what's up, O.G.? And he pulled me over to the side. He was like, man, I want to do better, bro, but I don't know how.

He's like, I want to do better, I just don't know how. And bro, for a young man that didn't need nobody, they were popping so far. He might not even remember that. Remember that. Man, that meant the world of me that he literally, I wouldn't even say humble. He trusted me enough to say, bro, I need help. And you know in the streets, especially where the fuck we're from? That's the reason why motherfuckers so mean.

Motherfuckers really be wanting to say, I need help better. I want to make my life better. But they don't know how to come to you so they, nigga, I hate you. I hate you for reminding me of what I'm not. You feel what I'm saying? So to be in that position, bro, I'm honored to pick that call up, bro. You know, seriously. That's shit, yeah, man.

Yeah, yeah, we're in this bitch. Hey, man, that's the phone. We want to talk for four hours, man. Shit. We're in this bitch. Man, we in this bitch, bro. I got to say something before, because they always get on me, man. They always get on me.

Guide box two is about to come out. Man, say it's my God Box. That's really important. That's really important. That's really important. All I'm going to say is it ain't nothing like the first one. Open it up. Same on the white part.

It ain't nothing like the first one, man. Yeah, I want my shit to be preserved. And another thing that I want everybody in this bitch to do, go to David batter.com and go and buy you something directly from me. Everybody always ask you, how can I help? Go to Davebatter.com. That's straight from us. Let me ask you this.

What made you go on the independent route this? on the independent route this time around? Well, between us, I can say this now. I've been independent almost 12 years. What I did was I found out motherfuckers was hurting themselves because when black people think about independent and black, they always, they have fooled us

into thinking that that means low quality. That's why everything, touch that motherfucking bag. Just tell you, don't that shit feel good? Everything that I do is shiny and it feels good. You heard, got some money. Look at them good. But now, seriously, I can spend the night, but this is there. There ain't no Crohn's saying.

I can spend the night. Okay. So what I realized is that that was the mindset of our people. So literally people don't know this. I went to Steve Rifkin. And I said, Steve Rifkin, I can't be you signed to you. Like, I found out, like, a Universal owed me a lot of money. And I said, like, man, like, I went to the head of Universal.

He literally said, Dave Banner. Dave Banner, you're smart dude, I know you're gonna find out soon. He literally showed me all the stuff, even how they work records and all that kind of stuff. It's not what we think it is. That's one of the reasons why I never signed anybody. You know, bro, you know how much money I can make? Because I'm a producer and I make all the beats if I sign artists. But the thing is, the truth is, is the way this shit worked, they throw a thine, they

threw, like I say, they throw 15 artists up against the wall and then they grab the one that stick. But you know what? love the people that we signed today they family now I can't just let you fall on the floor I can't take 10 motherfuckers failing in one or two having a total line I can't do that so what I decided to do I help anybody that want to be helped I help you start your own shit I want to free the slaves most black people and I'm just being honest with you most black people don't want to

free the slaves they want the opportunity to hold a whip you feel what I'm saying so like for me I always wanted to make people help people to get free and then motherfuckers to turn around and hate you because most motherfuckers want to be put on they don't want to do the work they don't know how hard it is for you to be on tour i'd be watching you dog from city to motherfucking city every night having to prove your fucking self people don't understand that shit dog this shit not easy so but i told sallee sali loves music like he got a he got an old soul bro like he listened to the shit that we listen to bro and i say bro if you really

love music like that and you bring artists, I'll help you, bro. But the thing is, I just don't want to take the responsibility of somebody else's life because I take that shit serious. Right. And I end up, man, getting soaked up and used up, man. I never forget, bro, when I did the work for Katrina, we raised all that money, bro. And I never said this nowhere, bro. I'm giving you this because you from where I'm from and y'all representing,

like I love what y'all represent. So I give y' y'all some shit. They're going to have to come get sound bites. from y'all. Come on, man. Bro, we wrote, along with Atlanta, people don't know, we threw the largest urban relief concert in history for Katrina. And it was the first time that conglomerate, different radio conglomerates, they were on each

other station. Like, like, V103 was on hot. Like, they literally got on each other station. That shit like gang banging. If y'all know anything about the radio, they don't play that shit. They put all that shit aside, man, but let me tell you what hurt me. We raised close to a million dollars, and then I realized most of the shit black people want rappers to do, if all the rappers, including Jay-Z, gave their money, it wouldn't be enough.

Like, what's going on at home in Jackson right now? We just raised money to me, Monti Ellis, Big Critt, and Mo Williams. We just sit in gallons and gallons of water home. But that's a structural problem, bro. That's over a billion-dollar problem. That's billions of dollars, bro. What was, like, think about it, let's say if I had a million dollars, right? How many houses could I bill with a million dollars?

Not many, at the most 20. You're talking about tens of thousands of people who are displaced, but people are looking at rappers to do stuff that they don't even expect their government to do, bro. And so people will sit back and talk about what we're doing, bro. You have no idea of how come, when I think, I didn't even as much as people were holding me. That wasn't shit, daw. And it made me feel so fucking helpless, bro.

Like, when I realized, man, that a lot of times we get, that's the reason why if y'all come to any of my lectures, I speak three times better than I actually do in my lectures, but I don't want you to catch the Holy Ghost. I want you to keep your fucking mind intact. We want people that make us feel good, that give us turkeys doing Thanksgiving. I don't even praise Thanksgiving.

That's an evil shit. Fuck that. You don't want a motherfucker to give you a turkey. You want a motherfucker to teach you how to get and eat, how to grow fucking crops, how to create your own fucking shit, dog. And I'm starting to realize this shit, and the shit is so fucking lonely, bro. It's the loneliest shit in the world, bro,

because I see shit being illuminated. That's why a lot of motherfuckers want to stay dumb. There's bliss and being dumb. I ain't know better, bro. So I'd be looking like, fuck. We fucking up. Watch this. I'm serious about this.

I ain't never said. Sally, I know I shouldn't say it. I'm going to say it anyway. I in no way. And I know people are going to try to. Y'all help me on this because I know people are going to try to flip this against me. But I actually wanted the political situation to stay the way that it was a little bit longer. And I'm going to tell you why.

For the first time since the 60s, you saw motherfuckers that were selling dope on the corner talking about politics. You saw motherfuckers fed up. I've never seen black people talk about politics every day for four years straight. We had just started fucking with each other. We should just started realizing America don't give a fuck about us. And I wrote online, don't be in a rush to go back to sleep. You know how Mama told us, don't walk across that street without looking both ways. And we don't look both ways into that motherfucker tapped our ass.

And if you look at it, when Obama was president, dog, white folks were saying this is a post-racial America. Cracker, how the fuck you know? That's like me telling a woman, oh, pregnancy don't hurt that much. How no fuck what I know? So I started watching because of the pain and how America was treating us. We had started fucking waking up. And I was like, ooh, because no lie.

Now, the last year of Trump's presidency was the best it ever been for me business-wise. Black people started seeing the relevancy in that black fist. That sign that I had created had started being like the shield for black people. And if you really even think about Bill Clinton, most of the laws that really affect black and Latino people are passed by Bill Clinton. Let's pass my bill. What's the president now name? Tell me his name.

Who, Joe Biden? Yeah. Go and look at how many bills he was a part of that locked black folks up. All of them. He wrote the show one. Wasn't he the one who wrote it down? I drew some pictures. Drew some pictures to go with it, baby.

So what I'm saying is, bro, is like, I realize as far as to answer your independent question, because I realized a long time, a long time ago, long time ago motherfucker ain't gonna help you it ain't a motherfucker responsibility it ain't somebody told me today if everybody came from a grateful situation like being grateful that you fucking breathe like i tell y'all well i was sick really sick uh about two months ago i didn't tell you how sick i was but i was really sick and there were some things that i didn't even think about bro like i didn't think about smelling you don't think about smell like

you just take that for granted. The fact that I can smell, I can use my eyes, I can touch and feel shit. Some people don't have this and listen to me, this is really important and to make your life better. Every problem that you have on this planet is connected to a blessing. If you lose your mama, well you had a mama.

Some people don't know their mama and never had a mama in their life. If you wreck a fucking car, you had a car. In order for you to lose something, you must have had first been blessed me. first been blessed with that shit. Talk your shit. And when I realized that, bro, changed the whole fucking coast of my life,

Jack. Yeah, you look, yeah. You got me looking for some shit. Smoke that down. If you lost it. If you lost it. If you lost it. That nigga got me.

What a minchin said, what a small people, Scott. What a small people. I got the things with small women. I'm gonna hook you up. You got. Hey, he said he got them. No, no.

Lee, come in. Look at me in my face. Come here, though. He said he got him. And plug you in. I'm plug you in. They love me. I've been on little women of Atlanta and everything.

Really? They love me. They love me, bro. You get that. I'm, I'm... I'm... They love me, Jee. They love me.

They love... Yeah. I'm sorry, I met little people y'all. Y'all, y'all. Can you beep that out? Fuck me, bro. You get to say the M1. Yeah, one time.

That's it. But don't say it where I'm gonna take you at it. Now you're going to make everybody. Listen to me. Look at me in my. One you all in your goddamn fast. Actually, what I would like her to do, bro, I had a, I had a hernia, so my ball's a little bit longer than most people. She can box the motherfuckers up.

What type of shit is you are? Not why I'm hitting the weed. This nigga just, that's an old-ass website fetish. Ball box. Ball boxing. Oh, shit. With a little tingle. Ah!

You know, sir, she literally busting my balls, dude. He's a real bull, bro. I don't even know why you said that on here, because now the comments are going to be like, Hey, bro, he's David Banner is serious, bro. Tiny Tina's down. We're getting 80,000 a month on OnlyFans. Please, can you send me a contact for David Banner?

You want me to open my phone? No. Oh, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that.

I'm going to see you all the dudes. Now it's going to be a gang of little chicks in my... Where you say, Bannon? I'm dead serious. Now I'm going to pull up at your farm with 100 little women. Hey, Scott, what are you coming for? I mean, say it loud so people can hear it. Tell them what I asked you to do when I die.

No, six? Little people. Little people. Little women. Yeah. You're a big guy. guy, I don't know if they go bear the pool. Well, 12.

Yeah, you gotta double up. Yeah. We'll make it a bigger dozen and get 13. Yeah, man. I'm dead serious, though. No, disrespect. I'm serious. I believe.

No, hey. It's gonna be dead. Hey, I do a lot of shit. I try not to lie. I just be quiet. You ain't got a lot to a motherfucker. Just don't say nothing. Man.

Oh, shit. Talk about these cold-ass beats you'd be putting out, man. You know, historic shit. Get like me. Oh, man. It's crazy. Let me ask you on some producer shit. Can you tailor that shit?

Like, you can say, I got some Chris Brown shit over here. I got some. No, and I'm gonna tell you why. The only beat that I've ever made for somebody that they wanted that beat was Nellie Tip Drill. That was only beat. Wait a minute. Let that bitch breathe, David Bellen. David Bellin.

Let that bitch breathe. Tip Drill. You didn't know I did Tip Drill? Yes. I was hoping you would say that you did it, though. That one came out, that one fucked the whole game up. I didn't even know, bro. Like.

The video? The song period. The whole album was a remix album, so that's actually the remix to EI. Right? I didn't know it. So why? I'm gonna tell y'all something that's even crazier, right? And this is when I was, I was still sort of old David better, trying to be better.

So y'all saw the video, right? Nellie never told me that he was shooting the video until the day of. day up I didn't understand so I was like I'll be he said I'm shooting videos because he shot like seven videos right he said I'm shooting videos I'm like well I ain't tripping like you know I want to stand in most people be looking for the camera he never told me he was shooting my song so I roll up right at the end Benny boom I'm cool with Benny boom and I saw all that shit I was like Benny shoot me in as many places as you can and sprinkle me through the whole video y'all I wasn't I wasn't I

I know this gonna break a lot of my home boy's heart. I was only at the tip drill video for literally about 15 minutes. So I missed the credit card and I missed the data. Like literally it was at night, I was there the last 15 minutes. But everybody always, they held me up when I went back home like, it was in the video

and I was like, sorry, oh. Like yeah, I caught the video last 15 minutes. I don't even think it was no more, it wasn't that many women even left there. They were tired. Yeah, man. Started out, hustle. Ended up bawled.

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Like the visionary behind a movie pass, Black founder Stacey Spikes, who was pushed out of movie pass the company that he founded. His story is wild and it's currently the subject of a juicy new HBO documentary. We dive into how culture connects us. When you go to France, or you go to England, or you go to Hong Kong, those kids are wearing Jordans, they're wearing Kobe's shirt, they're watching Black Panther. And the challenges of being a Black founder.

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Devin the dude, Fing. I know you fuck with Devin the dude. Who are a dead man from Mississippi? Yeah, I always made big beats. And a lot of artists are not really, they rap, but they're not rappers. Oh shit. So like, I'm the type of person, like,

I grew up like in, like, lyrics of fury, rock the bells, like them really hard songs. I used to tell people, because people didn't even know, like, I used to be a freestyle. champion. Like, people are surprised about the Godbox. I did rap a certain way just because I wanted my people to get it. You feel what I'm saying? Like, I started off. I started off a fucking battle rapper. So when Pete, and if you go back and listen to all my albums, I would always have

one of those songs on every one of my albums, right? But what it was was that, is that most people are intimidated. Like, when I make a beat, a rapper is just another instrument to me. I really, no lie, I think my beats are bigger than most rappers. But, like, I would tell people, I would always look at a beat like a fucking dragon. And I ain't even have a nice, I had a rusty ass spoon. And I'd run that bitch down the back of the dragon neck and drag that motherfucker down. Like, that's how I looked when I used to go. Like, when I only had like a pimp and I had to prove myself.

Like, I never forget, we did Canada with 50. And they had never seen, like, if any of y'all, you didn't see my show. It's like a black rock show. Hey, man, this nigga will do about four songs. Then he's going to stop. He's going to say some real-ass shit. Go to the hard-ass shit. And then he might say, hold on, hold, up, man.

Do that motherfucker over. And then the niggas will be like, hold up, baby. I'm talking about backflips. I used to spit fire. Yeah. All kind of shit, right? So, my time we left Canada, they said that Dave Banner is one of the best artists

that ever came through Canada. But that was before people really even knew who I was. I appreciate 50 because 50 gave me my first tour opportunity. Like we, I literally went, I got to tell y'all, I literally went from doing like 5,000 to 15,000, 20, 30,000, bro. And that shit was something different. I'll tell y'all the funniest shit, this shit happened, for real. Like, I never really wore Timberlands and shit that much.

I always wore J's because that was our shit in the South. But since we were up there in the cold, I had got some black Timbs. I would never wear like the construction till, because I was like we from the South. So if I had some tins, I wear some black tins, right? So I used to flip off of the stage. This time I decided to do a frontwoods, no-hand flip off the stage. And the heel of my boot hit this white girl in her head.

Bown, knocked her out. We were so crunk, she got up, and her boyfriend said, fuck her, keep going! He was so crumbed, he was like, yeah! And I was like, what about you, girl? Like, fuck her! And I was like, yo, I was scared for like a month. I was waiting on the motherfucking lawsuit.

I'm not lying. He literally kicked her to fuck her. Okay. Now let me show you how the 85 South show work, Matt. Just by you saying that, there's going to be somebody in the comments like, that lady was my aunt. I swear to God, she wants to come on the show. And she's going to have a mark cross her motherfucker.

I'm going to sign that bitch. So you flip kick into the. crowd yeah bough yeah so let me I want to ask you this how long did you have that play beat before you let everybody else here before the world got it all right was that one of the ones you were sitting on no I actually didn't produce that college park produced that and it was funny because when it came out people thought that I was biting off the Yan Yan twins and that's that wasn't the truth Kotlin Park wanted to create something that was called Intimate Club music.

So the lyrics are hella hard, but you're whispering. Like I can't. It's the nasty shit ever. You know, it's in your mouth, like your random mouse. Like it, anyway. So what happened was I would always keep, actually I had it today and NAA. I keep a checkbook. Like, one of the things that people always talk about their bosses and they see, you know,

they're CEOs, but you're still waiting on that check from New York, L.A. Like, not me. I mean, I can give you what other people can give you, but I can pay you today. So, actually, me and E-40 are really tight. He wanted that beat, but he told Kyle Parker's going to get back. I heard the beat, and I was like, I got 10, I got 10,000 right now. I know you get paid more, but I got 10 stacks right now. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you.

I never said this before. You, I get paid a lot of money for my bee. You got 10 sitting right there in front of me long as you don't tell nobody you tell motherfuckers you gave me 50 racks. Run that bitch. I'm from, man, I'm from the crib.

Fuck that shit. So I told Colorado Park. But the tag ain't gonna be the same. David Bandana. Who is fucking David Bandana? That was funny. So, so, so. So.

Can't afford the real thing on that bit. But the other, the other story behind that, bro, is that, white folks, I had, I don't know if I should say that, I had kicked open 10 doors at Universal. Like, they owe me money. And like, bro, I had tour for eight months. And my mom was at home, hungry, bro. I was at home hungry, bro.

And like, I had tour, I hadn't, because I had, yeah, they owe me money. And so I had done that much earlier, and I was actually about to be blackballed. And I heard this from two different people that I trust, actually three people, that like these executives are scared of you. And if you don't change something,

they're gonna make sure that you never do business in the music industry again. I just signed a publishing deal not too long ago, and I signed admin deals. men deals. Don't give all your publishing away. I would teach you something. Like do, if they give you a publishing deal, your money is already in the system. All you need to do is go find a publisher to free your money up. If they give you a million dollars, you got $3 million in the system. So then they end up taxing you like it's a loan for money that

you already have. Won't nobody tell these kids that the publisher shit is a bullshit. It's the biggest farce of all time. But anyway, publishing with David Banner. Yeah, man, that shit. Very good. Real quick, too. But they told me that if you don't change something about yourself, they're going to blackball you. You'll never make another album again. Don't play with me. Don't play with me. I got cool as a motherfucker on that bitch.

And it was so funny, if y'all go back and look at play, I'll tell y'all something I'll play in like a pimp. You go back and look at play, I look like a motherfucking maniac. Because I was so used to thugging it out, throwing bottles and it was crazy. And it was crazy, bro, because I just didn't know how to be cool. So if you look at play, I'm actually like, I don't know how to two-step. Like I'm used to this. Like it was the most awkward shit and no bullshit after that, my whole life changed. Like women came from everywhere.

I'm talking about the most ratchet bro to queens of company. Like, bro, I had a model one time that called my manager and asked could she book me. model what the fuck she booking me for ah ha it was that good like it my whole fucking life changed but i wasn't raised to be cool i was always raised to be aggressive i was always a hunter my whole fucking life so from being the hunter to now women hunting me oh so what happened when she booked you when you got there okay come on man all right i'm just saying it was a photo shoot it was a dope shoot well it was dope because, you know, to get booked

and work. You know, we're going to put that work in. Got to work. Mississippi. A lot of stuff we may not be able to do. But no. That's a hell of an alias right now. So I'll tell y'all one other thing.

Like a Pimp, a lot of people thought that I just got conscious recently. I'm in conscious since the 11th grade. We just come from very violent backgrounds. I was conscious in my head, but I didn't know how that shit worked in real time. Like the truth is you can't leave the people if you can't feed the people. I don't give a fuck how much knowledge you give them. If they don't see how that manifested in the money, then motherfucker don't want to hear that shit.

I know if I got some crap, I'm going to get something. Arrested, some money, fucking AIDS, some pussy. I'm going to get something. If I got this smoke, I'm going to get something. This other shit y'all are talking about is hypothetical. So if you go back and turn the music off on Like a Pimp and just look at the video, we ran the Ku Klux Klan out of Mississippi, we pushed the fucking cross down. I took the Confederate flag and threw that bitch back. And actually I had an album, a mixtape that was called Sex Drugs, the Video Games.

It said sex drugs and something else. It was so serendipitous. It was so close to the fucking future. but nobody ever fucking listened, even lyrics. Nobody's been rapping my ass off. My only thing was my diction, I sound like I had fucking cotton in my mouth, but I always been fucking rapping. That's one of the things that pissed me out, actually even more than the beats, is I am

just now since the BET Cypher was the first time that I actually started getting fucking credit for my verses, bro. You know, but we're gonna strangle their ass. You got to. Yeah, but you know, fuck that. Don't never change shit you're doing because you're doing it right. You just get, man, I think, bro, with me, I just got tired, bro. Like, I don't have no kids yet.

I just practice a lot, you know. Man, have some kids. You can't afford them. Oh, I can. Like, what people, people never even knew. People never look at shit. Don't nobody study. If you look at my career, bro, I was either producing, acting.

acting, activist, doing my own album, speaking. I went 10 years, bro. This is a story I never told them, but I went 10 years. And I was supposed to go on Carter 3 tour with Wayne, because my manager at the time was really good friends with Cortez. And I was so burnt out that when I tried to get up, I couldn't stand up. And I stayed in the house for seven months and couldn't move. Literally, Wayne, they was like, you come on this tour.

And I tried to get up, and I couldn't fucking stand up. I literally worked. I just started enjoying my career to about three years ago. All I ever did was work. Damn, yeah. And then you spend all this money, bro. Like, the money be gone, bro. Like, what, Seylos said that, little money be gone.

It'd be true, bro, I don't know what a fucking money, because I never was no big stunter on, no shit like that. And like, bro, I ran through it. You still drive fast as for? No. You know you was notorious for driving fashion. Yeah. The government had wrote me a letter and said that they was going to suspend my license indefinitely.

One time a cop asked me why do I do shit like that and I told him because I can afford to. Yeah. Good. That's a Jack Johnson type. Surprised he to shoot my motherfucking ass. I showed did. I looked at it. He was like, huh.

Yeah. Yeah, man. In Mississippi, too. Yeah, y'all got it out me today, bro. That's it, man. Hey. You don't understand. Like, me and this man right here started our comedy career together, and he'll tell you we've been everywhere.

And motherfucker's like, bro, you got to get with Banner. You in Banner when y'all think that shit gonna be crazy. I'm telling you, man. I'm telling you. So just for this shit to happen right here, the way it happened, this big-ass knife. Come on, man. I will keep this sword in the family. than the family.

Father Power! He would tell you, you see, this is the knife I had in my pocket. I will guarantee you, I would do a whole lot of Mississippi shit with it. I will not let you down. Stay with a knife in the Cadillac. Come on, man. You got a little motherfucker chopper. You got a little motherfucker nubball.

What you say you slewfoot, motherfucker? This, what's the last day before we go, bro? What you want to know for? What you want to know if I leave, anything? Shit. What's next? I was asking about that cartoon. Yeah.

Before the... Because you know we're trying to get in the animation industry. Who better to get in it with than... Alright, well, you ask me what's next, bro. Is that I have a company that's called a Banner Vision. And I remember when this dude told me a story about this little black girl, she ran into the kitchen crying uncontrollably. and said, Daddy, Daddy, Daddy, are there going to be any black folks in the future?

Why you say that, baby? She said, because I was watching the Jetsons and I didn't see none. When people do futuristic movies and sci-fi, they're telling you what they want the future to look like. And most of their futures are without us. So it's our responsibility to put ourselves, think about it. When you make a song, when you make a movie, when you write a skit, You could literally be anywhere in the world. We usually put ourselves back in pain.

I see so many people, man, when I watch black movies, it'd be the same bullshit that the crackers be doing. Like, we can't even win in our own fucking films. I ain't gonna even call out this film. I watched this motherfucker did it. Both of the motherfuckers die? Like, what the fuck? We can't even win in our fucking dreams.

These crackers got our head so fucked up. Every American Vision movie that you see, I got a Crocker Kill quota, And we always go win. You can best believe that shit. That's a good model. Bro, American gangster is about the police. It's the hero.

Like, what is they really saying? The police is the gangsters. Wow. As far as the cartoon is concerned, bro. Come on, man. Talk to me. I'm actually, bro, I'm trying to create. And people always think that I want to do everything positive.

It's that I just want us to control the narrative. Everything about us isn't positive. But I do know that I want our children. Like this is how I feel about racism now. I used to be really angry at white people. I'm no longer angry at white people anymore because that brings your vibrations down when you hate. In order for you to keep a motherfucker down in the ditch,

you got to get down there with them, right? Right. So I just want them to leave us to fuck alone. It ain't their responsibility to do for us. We sit back and don't even know that. that we're talking like slaves we don't even know when something when a cracker kill an innocent black person and we post that shit and don't do nothing about it we become the poster child for white supremacy and I don't believe

that's supreme at all but if you're gonna post some shit and then you ain't gonna go do nothing about it you're fucking coward you actually showing that's like if you whoop my ass right now and I post that shit posting you whipping my ass and ain't nobody did nobody do nothing to body didn't nobody do that make you look like the jee So why we keep posting that shit if you're not gonna do nothing? But let a motherfucker not bring your dope back. You'll run up in the house and kill anybody.

So why is that? We will throw our fucking lives away. I know, I know me. I used to go to a club every fucking week that people would literally die in that motherfucker. I don't even want to call the name of the club. Like, motherfucker would die and people would stop dancing for like an hour and then throw back that ass up from juvenile. And motherfuckers will wipe the blood up and get right back out there, right?

So if we, if we go places like that, that knowing. Like my mama told some bits of people in the country where she stay at, my mom always go on, I always go on boat rides, cruises and shit. That lady said, you ain't scared of that water. You can't drink all that water. My mom said you drive every day. You can't swallow all that concrete. So if we're going to be that bold against each other and be quick to throw our lives away over a bullshit, why we can't stand for somebody raping and killing kids? I don't get that shit, honey. But anyway, about the cartoon. The cartoon, bro, I just want to take...

The cartoon is not all that shit he just said. Actually, in a strange way, it always is. It actually always is. But what I'll tell you, man, is that we just want to create stuff that's meant for us. The only thing that I want to say, man, as far as I'm concerned, bro, is I just hate the fact that people that give the most to our communities are the people that we give back to the least. We always talk about how much people sacrifice, but we give our money away to people. money away to people who treat us like white folks do.

Motherfucker tell you, I'm coming to your motherfucking town. I'm gonna fuck your old lady and leave a pussy with. We give him all our money. They're like, oh man, please go fuck my old lady. You know what I'm saying? Like seriously, I started peeping that shit. Like, motherfuckers that treat us like white folks treat us as the motherfuckers that we give our money to.

We're supportive, motherfucker. Like, I give you an example. I'm doing better than most people on this planet that talk the shit that I talk. But I always ask this when I speak. I said, do y'all think I'm the antithesis? to Donald Trump and people say yes that means the opposite am i opposite well yeah i said why ain't rich as he is because white folks made him rich so if i'm the direct opposite then i should be as rich as donald trump right now but the problem is is most black people see themselves through the eyes of

white people most of the time when we look at some black person's suffering on tv in the back of our mind we say that nigger probably deserved put my black people what was we doing yeah yeah we'll make you It's proven guilty until a motherfucker innocent and even when he's innocent. They passed the law about somebody. Hey, fuck that. Take care of me. Don't wait to I die. Dave Vetter.com right now and this motherfucker.

Go subscribe to Dave Vetteredomber podcast right now. Get you some podcasts. I want all y'all to come. I got an idea of something I want you to do on my podcast, bro. Let's get it. You're going to show your ass. Literally. Yeah, bro.

Literally. Yeah. No, not literally, but yeah. No, whatever the assignment is, I will go there. I won't do this with my knife. But what I said to y'all... I have the knife. Would I say, y'all, oh, you know, you remember the golden child?

I, I, I, I. Where's the knife? Yeah. But what I say in closing, man, I appreciate y'all for giving me access to y'all fans. Because what people don't understand, bro, is when y'all bring them on your show, y'all give them the opportunity to touch. Like you said, some people may not know. remember you know what i'm saying and i want to be reciprocal to y'all want y'all to come on you know what a lot

of our fans probably was some of your fans first yeah they probably won't because we keep this it's a big crossover yeah we keep this show so thorough man we this the type of people that they're going to say how they roll to you in the comments that's what it's going to be they're going to be he will let you know that it like he can verify that i have actually rode a Cadillac and played your music at an obscene levels yes came on stage of around the world because they was like, I needed that to represent. So I can say, yeah, we got one.

Yeah, man. I'll say this to the people before I leave and then we gotta go. I'm one of the few rappers that the general public allowed to grow up. Most motherfuckers who grow up get smarter, they broke or they sell out, you know? And I'm one of the few people, man.

I decided to grow up in front of people. and motherfuckers didn't ostracize me. You know, and I'm grateful for that, man. Last year was literally the best year of my life as an independent business man. Because we were independent, other motherfuckers was trying to find a way to get their shit set up online with COVID.

We had all our shit ready. And like literally when people were looking for a flag, when people were looking for something to go to, we had it already ready for. It hurt us a little bit because we have been struggling so long. You know, and I tell people this. Oh, I still got my flag. Yeah.

Literally everything that you see that I create, we pay for it. So like when a motherfucker drop a fly on the ground, y'all be like, why they're better picking up flies and shit. Fuck around and throw that bag on the ground. I'm going to repurpose that motherfucker and I said, shit. I know how much all that shit costs, but bro, like, I'll tell y'all this in closing, man. My dream, and hopefully, because you were great at doing this, man, my dream is to be able to create a city, like silent city. I was thinking about going to North, like, North Mississippi right before you get to Memphis.

I was thinking about building. That sounds like Oxford. Yeah, that's close. That sounds like where I'm from. It's close. Yeah. This is the Tupelo earlier. I was thinking Oxford.

You know, August was a great city up there. I want to buy, I want to create a city where our people could come and stay that we don't talk about. We talk too much shit. We let the enemy know that we come in way too early. I want to tell y'all this, and I mean this. We need to get a group of us that when we really get our paper up and say, okay, you start a water company. You start an electricity company. You start a security company.

I'd never forget this. When I went to see the minister, when I saw Minister Farrakhani, he said, Banner, if you really want to be that billionaire, you're talking about, grow organic food. He said, like, these white folks are destroying the food and the earth so much. If you create organic food, they will come and bow to you like a king. So watch this. I don't give a fuck how much we fight. I don't give a fuck how much we jump up and down in March. If they got the food, bro, I think that's the one thing that the South did fail, the world with.

We were supposed to be the farmers. Kids think fucking around with the dirt is whack. That's what you put inside of your body to see. sustain yourself. If you don't have food, water, and electricity, motherfucker's going to get right. They're going to be like, yeah, man, let's get deep crackers. I'm hungry. Let's get deep crockers. I'm cold. Like literally, bro, that's my dream, bro, to be able to build somewhere where our families could fuck with each other and we won't need nobody. Well, I know a lot of places up in North Mississippi that just happens to be my neck of the woods. So if you would like to discuss a plan. Yes, sir. I am with the shit, David Pan.

I have the knife now. Hey man, you heard his here first, man. This is the first time David Bennett came to your track. I'm coming back. Come on, man. Make some Lord, man. It's awesome. It's awesome.

It's awesome. We go. All ready. You all right? Oh, no. I'm about to steal somebody from it. Don't steal. That's your one right now.

Okay. Let's give a flick. Come on. This is how cold the game is, bro. You can meet a visual. With six-pack abs, it still had a little baby mama shit on top of it. Yeah.

That's where I been in life. Abs with stretch mom. Look at me. You ain't been where I been. I've been where you been, young nigger. You ain't seen what I didn't see. I'm trying to get to where you been. You ever seen the clip with the dickhead on it?

Oh. You ain't been out here long enough. Oh. I thought I was ready, but these are you didn't get out of this shit I haven't seen. I ain't ready to pussy long look like some bad wings. Oh. What are you saying?

Hey, young nigger, you ain't seen the shit that I didn't seen. I didn't went over a bit. It was dirty, but it was clean. Yeah. Because you ain't seen what I seen. I ain't seen nothing. You ever had a young bitch who named was Irene. Nah, because you ain't seen what I seen.

Yeah. You ain't seen what I seen. Yeah. Okay. You ain't seen what I seen. You ain't seen what I seen. I'm off the top like Tyson. Bitch pussy lips looked like she fought Tyson.

Big Lone. But I'm a still fuck strong. And that's the name of this song. name of this song. You ain't seen what I seen. Y'all ain't seen what I seen because it ain't working yet. I might fuck a bitch all night on three percasses and wake up in the morning and lick on her perky breasts. Let me stop playing. She gets me turkey now. So you ain't seen what I seen. Uh-huh. You taking percasses. When we was in the club, nigga was first stopping beans. That's when they first hit the scene. Oh. Because you ain't seen what I've seen.

See, the young niggas don't know that when you get my age, you ain't remember shit you did. When you your age because you ain't seen what I seen you ain't seen what I seen and you ain't seen what I seen taking perks I can't go that route if I took three perks my dick is gonna cuss me out like what the fuck is you trying to do nigga you ain't seen what I see I don't really take no perkinses but you tell so every time I go over a bitch house it's nice neat and clean I call my dick codeine because when I hit her she lean and then she knows that Akeem is going probably break a spleen I can do all type of things what you mean I ain't seen so that's cool But see, the world got you fool

Young knicker And let me tell you how it is when you old Yeah Because the world gets colder When I go to a bitch house She own the house And if she gets mad she's putting everybody out Uh huh

Grown woman shit Two bins Good job A lot of inns Right now We're up in here on 85 South I walk in a house full of beaches And I see 85 mouse wide open

Ready to catch everything that I'm about to throw to him, I walk out and I don't go to them. So y'all ain't ever seen the shit I sing because you ain't did the shit I did. I didn't play it hot and seek and you ain't hit the places I head. You feel what I'm saying? Can you get the shit I get? Can you do the shit I do?

Can you fly the places I flew? See, young nigga, I'm about to tell you how life get hard. While you was playing hide and seek, nigga, that was my yard. Uh-huh. Because you ain't seen what I seen. Oh, my God. And you ain't seen what I seen. Okay, okay.

And what you did sing? You, nigger. I'm gonna tell you something about your yard. I'm gonna tell you something about your yard. Okay, for the motherfuckers who know. Uh-huh, uh-huh. I whipped my wing out of seven and I was sliding up with it. Hunting on somebody daughter playing hide and go get it.

I ain't seen what you saying cause you was in the house on the couch while I was out here putting something in their mouth behind a tree man. And I was in your yard. See, you see things, but you ain't never did the things I did, right? Okay. Okay. Hold on. Hold on.

Hold on. And what you said? I ain't gonna say that shit was facts, but why are you hunting in the yard where you think her mama at? Ah! But you ain't seen what I seen. And you ain't seen what I seen.

Hey, and where you think her mama at? Uh huh. You know what he's seen. I'm in the back room fucking on Auntie Arlene. Yeah. Because you ain't seen what he's seen. Yeah. You ain't seen what he's seen.

Hold up. I said your life is getting good, but my life is getting greater. Yeah. You ever fuck the bitch. is shameful. Because you ain't seen what I seen. No?

He didn't seen what I seen. Now, you said, what was her mama? I was outside hunting her and her rumpur. And the way y'all explained in this shit, I think y'all could be my uncles. So what was really going on inside that house, man? You don't want to know, little bro. And you ain't seen what we've seen,

and we're not going to miss. Your shit's strong, but could you get your pussy with shit like this? Come on. And you ain't seen what I've seen. No. Uh. I guess y'all niggas got me, man.

I'm trying to tell you, every since you said it was your house, I was really kind of shit. I didn't know that was you looking out the window the whole time. That was me. We want you to win. That's why we ain't stopped you.

See, young nigger, some old game what you need. When you own the property, they put your name on the deed. My name is Carlos. They ain't got no sense, but if we can stand right here, you can't see my fence. That's how much motherfucking land I own. I'm so old school, got a landline phone. Uh-huh.

And you can call the house. I'd be like, hold up. I'm going to take this shit downstairs because the house got three layers. You want to talk about some shit while I'm a player. And I'll be there in the motherfucking dragon layer. That's the part of the house

that don't nobody know about. Okay. You feel? I feel what you're saying? Come on, Bill. Yeah. We didn't. I feel what you're saying.

What I say? The shit that you said. You know, I'm my old nigger. What? Hey, we twisted this shit out. You heard it? I thought I was the shit, but he can pull him a bitch, fall-headed. We said we were getting pussy, then we turned around and all set it.

Let's just kill it, my nigga, man, we shit all did it. Cut the beat. I told you, you ain't seen what we seen. But you're going to see it. You go see it. You know how much shit we had to do so young niggas like you ain't have to do it. How much? We had to come before you.

85 times. Yeah, and lay the foundation so you can just walk over the stumbles that we didn't already made smooth. So now when I get to him, bawled hit it, they'd be like, I saw him and I know why you're here. Yeah, exactly. You're still going to be the coldest thing in the world because of us. Check out how the ecosystem work. Uh-huh.

If it wasn't for niggas like me and Chico and our demographic coming through and leaving $50, $58. Talk to me, don't lie to me. They wouldn't already be fine when you run into him. Damn. We're helping y'all. It's the niggas behind us. So now all I got to do is pay the 40. Sometimes you're not even going to have to pay the 40.

You just going to have to show up. Right. We made it so we can set it all the way up. Why you think they be in the club talking shit? Like, my nigger got money. Who you think those niggins are? I'm just a substitute. I'm coming out the bench.

Something to do. And you can't even flinch. Come on, man. You just thought fucking. Hot down. 10, 11 years. You hear that, brother? I didn't want to ruin the young niggas confidence, man.

This has been another pimped out, spaced out. You dig what we're saying. Vived out. Addition. They didn't put me on some pimps shit today. You understand, baby. And y'all make sure. Y'all support Akeem Ali, man.

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