The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Derrick Grace in the trap! with DC Young Fly & Karlous Miller!

Episode Date: November 13, 2021

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a new podcast from IHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg and ColliderScope, about the rise of deep fate pornography and the battle to stop it. Listen to Levitown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. What we're at? What you got over there today, player? You're in your funk bag now? Man, you get on TV one time and now you think you, uh... Come on, man.

You think you've been to go to Seinfeld. You're going to cross over already. That's where you're going, man. Now you're on your Lenny Crave's shit again? No, we got to do... Come on, Jay O'am. We've been trapping hard in the trap. We've been trapping hard in the trap. Now you're back on this. What in the head? We can't do no trap shit, this shit. Look at this knicker, man. Man.

That's the Arianda, uh, Grundy package. Hey, you new B-Team coming out, man. You already. Hey, there we go. That's what I'm saying. He's like, all y'all, y'all want nigger's shit, all right. This nigga tried to go already. That shit, five for real.

What you'll do with that? This shit right here. Yeah, what you'll do with that? Oh, up my blood and then I'm gonna get high. No you not, no you, no you not. I'm about to tell my boss he, fuck that nine of a side. No, you're not. I know you're not, hey.

Digger working me, no man, stretching me eye. Come on, come on, and what they're doing, though. Then I realize that my life's gonna be y'all. Okay, okay. Oh, I told them I'm coming to work. What did you say, bro? I said, I'm coming to work. Oh, who, coming to work.

I hope this nigga's falling bump his head. Yeah. When you're going, well, I'm quitting. And I ain't planning And I ain't bullshit Hey, this is my last day Since my last day And I'm gonna quit right now

On pay day Give a fuck what them folks say Man, I'm out this bitch I'm tired of working I'm tired of doing all of this shit And I ain't mopping no flows And I ain't locking no doors They're talking about

I can't holly at no motherfucking hose With my uniform on What kind of shit is that And when I lead it's time It ain't no coming back Unless they pay the tax of fee, but one thing they're gonna be free of is me. I do your job, dance.

Guess what? I'm going to work. He left eye through that ball. I'm going to work. He ain't coming back. I'm not this bitch. I'm going to work. Yeah.

I'm through with it. I'm going to work. This is hard. Somebody needs to get in my car right now. I'm going to do it. Somebody needs to hear that. I'm gonna run every red light. Somebody need to hit my bar too.

Fuck it. I quit. I'm on my third strike. I can't be late. I'm coming to work. I said, you know what, fuck it. I quit. Have you ever been fired at the door of your job?

Yeah. You thought you were gone with you. He said, go back out. You like, what that mean? He like, you don't work in no more. I'm going to work. I bet. I'm gonna get paid one way or mother.

I'm going to work. My coworker sat on fire. Shut your mouth, niggas. Come on then. Hey man, welcome back today to find self-show. Welcome back. I don't know where you been, but welcome back. Like, there's been a lot going on over here.

J-O-N. How you living, bro? Look, look, D.C., man, look. Man, we got, hold on, man. Give me some serious music right now. Some serious music. Give me some serious, man. Hunting music. And give me some, I need something that's like,

some you can get money to from scratch. Mm-hmm. Because, you know, like, I guess in the trap today, It's a lot of shit you could say, but I really just call the nigger a genius, bro. Like, yeah, I want to say like a hood master man. Because any nigga that can figure out the type of shit that he didn't figure out,

in America deserves to be called a genius. Facts. A phenom. Facts. Yeah, you're the prototyte. I'm talking about for real. The epitome. Uh-huh.

You get what I'm saying in this name? Facts. doing by yourself, it's gonna make the whole world have to look at niggas different. Whatever they thought about niggins, they're gonna have to add some more shit to that. None other than the living legend, Derek Grace.

Yes, up. Great father, great educator. Facts. Great business, man. This ain't good, that's a lot of shit, bro. Hey, guy. And this nigga, Tannett. You're intelligent to the matter.

Motherfucker, man. Ain't no reason for no more. You wrote everything. Yeah, no, bro. I mean, I don't know the face for sure. I ran out of room, yeah. No, they said I was crazy, but boy, you got me beat. Pretty good.

What was the motivation? I got the first FaceTat in 2012, and I had lost a job I had as a 911 dispatcher. A lot of people don't believe I had a job. I was a 911 dispatcher. He was a 911 dispatcher. I was a nigga answering phone and say, I don't want to watch you at Merton.

And they're like, well, I'm hurt, nigger? And you're like, what you need? Yeah, yeah. So I'm gonna send you to EMS if it's medical or I gotta send the boys to the crib if it's, you know, some criminal. Did you ever tell somebody on the 911 call, we're gonna send them boys?

No, man. Swip on the way, right? You gotta flood that shit, boy. Can they come in my black? You say, you need hell, they come in my way. Now, bro, on that behalf, I have had like cousins and whatnot that I like just gave a heads up, like, hey, y'all be careful today

because X, Y, Z coming your way. But yeah, no other than that, it was either 911 or EMS. Damn, yeah, bro, so I lost that job, and I just told myself I was never going to fuck with the corporate world again. We were free to tar up. Yeah, yeah. Liga.

So I just told myself, bro, I was never going to fuck with the corporate world again. Unless it had to be some type of partnership. Basically, I wasn't going to conform. So I went and tatted my face in 2012 just to make sure I had to live and die by that. And me too, I'm a procrastinate like a lot of people. So that was one of them things that just, you know, put the battery in my back to really figure shit out on my own. Hey, yeah. Shit hard, man.

Are you inventing a board game, broke books? You know, the board game, the books, best-telling author. Yep, fuck your shit, man. That's what I'm saying, like, how much of this shit do you talk about, man? You do... You put us up, bro.

I really don't... I really don't talk about shit. I'm talking about that shit, but we're comedians. No, but that's cool, though. You got to stop through here at least once a year. You got to talk. and talk some shit. I got you, right.

So bro, bestselling author, in-home banking board game. That's an independent situation we put out. We don't sell like between 50 and 60,000 units independently. Come on. In three years. I love them. I love them. Come on, man.

What's y'all doing, man? Of course, bro, the curriculum is the books. I pride myself when being able to say, like, no school in the work and say they raised. To talk my youngest I did. I did that shit myself. Talk your shit. Let's talk about that for justice.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, talk about that. Like, what, at what point did you see that you, like, did you know that school was just not going to get these kids nothing? In the curriculum, you know that they wouldn't teach you, OG. So, bro, my honest thing 13 now. But, like, I didn't look better then. You put this, I just put it in school. Like, yeah, that's what we do as adults.

We put our children in school at a certain age. But, bro, I kept peeping, like, he would kill the work, but they wasn't really sustaining him mentally. So he was one of the kids out of doing the work, then go break shit or just get in trouble just be fucking around but he had an amazing grade

so when I peeped that brother I started asking teacher like you're all challenging when he gets to that place so what are y'all doing she was like well

basically I can't do shit if he's finishing for the rest of the class that nix just got to sit there like a little soldier you know what wait at fucking five six years old

they got a ball of energy so bro he kept getting this shit and then I really start looking into what they was teaching them and I pulled them out of school and second grade and

you just got figured out of shit out of our sales ever since. So every year, so every year, what, he 13? He's 13, huh? So every year he passed. So between, like, so me and his mama split him. So, like, when he with her, he has to, like, go back into that world. And then when he with me, I kind of, like, got to damn undo all that shit.

And re-teach him what I feel like is the real shit he's supposed to have. But his rest of his siblings and all, like, my daughter, she's 10, but she's never been to daycare, no school, no nothing. So, because I want to miss a shit like that. You saw her busting down the fucking Mac 11 and she know all the billions and everything. You're like, what made you, I ain't mean to cut you all, but what made you incorporate that part into the education? Knowing at a young age, because you know how they, how that shit is. Right.

Two people in 2015. You were talking about that, man. You can talk about that shit, right, aye, I'm about to say. Yeah, that's a big-ass chain. You can't talk about everything. We might need a boom mic. This is a big-ass big-ass change. This shit.

This is the chain that your chain want to be. We're gonna have to mic the chain. That's the whole face on that. You're gonna have to actually put the mic on Nipson. You're gonna put the mic on him. You have to lay your chain on this. So, love, yo chain got earrings. This motherfucker.

The motherfucker got a chain with ears, with ear. With ear. This thing got a chain with ears. With earring. I don't even know what kind of chain. I won't know. That crazy. I can't even go into the jury store no more.

I'm like, that's shit. Don't sell that shit at no jurors, though. You have to know a jeweler. His ass shit, don't we trying to send him. They learn from his father. They learn from his grandfather. With earrings in it. Make my face.

Make my whole batter. I want my whole batter. I'm going to want my whole batter. All right, bet. I'm going to take, I'm going to get my shit straight in. I'm getting me a chain with mega Evers on it. Who? Exactly.

You crazy. Nick, I'm going to get the Jesse Orange chain. Dark-skinned diamonds. I would say that, but... And I'm gonna have, like, some of them gonna be white because it's gonna be like he ashen. When she's about to get burnt with that iron. Martin Luther King's smoking cigarette.

I get that one. One, two, three, four. Okay, after adjusting the, you know, the microphone in the big chain, we were talking about. you know, the gun safety and the gun education, you know, with the school curriculum. Yeah, so I shot two people in front of her when she was three, so at that point I felt compelled.

Like, they knew I had guns because I always been a gun collector, but I didn't really like start educating him. I just realized that's my gun, don't touch it and leave it at that. But once I shot, once that took place in front of her, but I just felt compelled to begin teaching her about it because it's one thing to know your pop's got a gun and be curious, but you see him use it.

You're feeling to be super curious. So I'm big on preventative maintenance, bro, I just try to get in front of shit before I get to my kids so they could be ready when it arrived. That's fast. But to pick up back on the education shit, right? Because I'm into that.

So how did you get qualified to even have the curriculum that is still on the same qualification as the school system? So when he leveled up, when he went back to school, he was like, yeah, he's in the grade he's supposed to be in.

So, all right, bro. So it's two things with that. Right. My stuff has never been approved by their qualification. Because, like, for one, I'm going to be real with you, bro. I wouldn't even seek their approval to begin with. Facts.

Their curriculum and their thought process come from our grandparents' oppressors. So I don't even want to fuck with anything they're talking about anyway. So I did buck them on that end. And I'm not encouraging nobody to do that because it may not work the same way. But you do it how you need to do it. But anyway, I bucked them on that end. So I enrolled him in the online program. I can't remember their name right now,

but I enrolled them in an online program where, like, there was some accountability attendance-wise. Because, you know, if the children not in some type of school, then that's when they want to send him a house for truancy. So, anyway, instead of teaching him their curriculum, I taught him my curriculum, but I just marked his paperwork as completed every day. So basically, like... You can't say that.

His daddy did his work. We can't say that. You had your 14-year-old back in the third grade. We can't do that. We can't have your 14-old back in the third grade, man. That's going to be like, oh, for real. Yeah, come on. You got your ass and have them two-yo, man.

You ain't brinket, mama. No, bro, that's really how it went. We, um... I basically, at that point, just Christmas tree, the remainder of his school year, then I started teaching him the shit I felt like he needed. That's right. The thing was, like I said, in second grade,

he was grasping their shit so easily that it wasn't no issue for him to really miss a year of their work, do some real shit, and then bounce right back into their system. And with history, you're teaching him history. History, not the... The motherfuckers who matter. Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Facts. Fax. So, man, you've been very successful on the business side, too, man. Like, when did that shit start making sense to you? And how did you adjust? Because, like, you said you, you got to go over here on the business. When they look at you first as an appearance before any time. Absolutely.

Right. So, bro, I'm not going to know. I've been entrepreneurs in 2012. I really ain't make, to me, make no substantial money until, like, year four or five. In the first couple of years, I made some bread, but because I wasn't knowledgeable on taxes, I really, like, didn't make that bread. Right, right. You know, he's just an entrepreneur.

He's ready to get some money. And year one, I only made like 23 grand. By year two, it was like a hundred and some change. So, you know, we just feeling like we went until Uncle Sam hit me and then I had to learn that shit the hard way. So to me, I really didn't make no substantial bread to like 2000, maybe

like 15, 16. Between 15 to 17. That's when I was able to like do shit, like, retire my mama and start, like, creating an actual company where I'm employing people. And then Rose's the second part Your question, you said, I'll just say, like, when it started making sense and, like... Bro, I would say the first time it really started making sense was 2018, and that's when I touched, like, I made my first million plus in, like, a 12-month span, and then just really started learning, like, payroll, tax cuts, how to just implement certain shit just to get away with as much bread as possible, and Uncle Sam get as much, get as little as possible.

So basically what I'm asking you now is going from, like you said, 23 to a million plus. That big money. That big money, what we come from, that big money. Exactly, like, when you get to this side of the spectrum on the million plus, it's like, what changed? Like, did you keep some of the 23,000, may I say, all the way up to the million and a half?

Absolutely not. Right, bro, so I would say... That's the education point. The niggins right there. You spend the million on him right here. Gotcha. So, bro, I'm gonna keep it a buck. When I first bought Nip, Niphead is a kilo,

the chain is a kilo. Total, bro, I spent, I think, $63,000, but because gold has done exceptionally well since then, I know Nip alone worth like $115,000. Come on, man. That's another one. You get what I'm saying. What I will say on the real side of y'all is genuinely,

I got probably like between 50 and 60 pounds of gold. I've only spent maybe six, 700,000, but it does have an evaluation of like 1.7, 1.8 million dollars. And that's because gold, I wouldn't like it, but you know, shit, you worked in my favor. Exactly. And gold is doing amazingly well.

Goal and definitely do good. Yes, sir, brother. That's this nigga right here, man. And then, bro, I answer to yours. So my work ethic never changed. I'm still a workhorse, bro. But one of the, a couple of the biggest things that differentiate me from most people

is I don't sit on ideas. Mm-hmm. It's niggas right now that's been sitting on the idea for two years, two days. I come up with some shit, I conceptualize it, I'm gonna hit my team, and we're gonna jump out the window and execute. Follow-up, that's the most important part

of doing anything. You gotta follow up and follow through. No, for sure, and that's what I say, like the work ethic, the consistency, that stayed the same, but it was more so on the investment side. So prior to that, like, books is no different in the streets. You gotta re-up, you gotta flip them, you gotta make your bread back.

So prior to that, I was doing like maybe $3,000 investments, $10,000. never over, never superseding 10. But when I came out with the board game in 2018 because we was doing business with China, China basically tell niggas like, you need to order a thousand or better. Don't come to me for no goddamn hundreds.

Right. They're not fucking with you. That's right, never gonna get there. Right, no, it ain't coming. So, bro, like, that's when I really had to invest, like, two. I know that first batch cost me like 270 grand. And bro, I ain't gonna lie from that point. I just, the shit sounds simple,

but people still don't know how difficult it is, when you're entrepreneur and you're independent. Right, it's all you. Yeah, yeah, just bet big and you're going to get bigger. That sounds simple, but in 2018, bro, that's when I finally did it, and that's when I started seeing millions of dollars. That's the next question I was going to ask you. It's like, for the people who watching, like,

what gave you the reassurance to bet big like that, like to take that first step, even being on this side where you know you good, it's like do you still feel like this might be a risk? So, bro, that's a good-ass question. Bro, for me, I feel like men are supposed to be actively taking the risk, not only for the wisdom and the intellectual property they take from it, but for the win, but most importantly, to double back to tell your niggas of your village how to do the same thing.

Exactly. So for me, bro, the confidence are always coming in there that, like, I know in my era I'm 32, but in my area, they're going to be able to say, like, bro, I had a cousin or an uncle or a daddy or a brother. I've seen that nigger spend a million in a day, so I know it ain't nothing to get a million because I've seen my niggas spend it in the 24-hour spending. So for me, bro, like, I'm always, I'm constantly thinking legacy and I'm constantly thinking about what type of example am I giving my children, feel me? So if I could be overly aggressive enough to shoot a motherfucker and not have no fear, then niggas should definitely have absolutely none jumping for their vision or their dreams.

So for me, bro, it's a no brain. If you got the bag and you believe in what you're doing, you post a bit big. Hell yeah. Or, like, if a nigga get in the game to play small ball, he don't need to be in the game. If you ain't in that bitch to get a ring at the end of the season, what you signed up for? Exactly. Niggas don't want stats? You know what they say?

I got stats. Niggas just want to be on highlights. I want that ring, though. I need that ring at the end of the year. So what was that transition? Because I know you're being the man. But then you got a certain mentality because you're militant. You understand?

But what was that transition when you were like, alright, the street shit, I ain't telling my shit. So, bro, the transition was... Because everybody, every real nigga I had that level where it was like, they're really some bullshit. I'll take what it was. What I said what it was. In 2009, my brother got sent, his original sentence for 65 years.

They got it reduced to 35, and then they got to reduce to 15. So he's still in there. He's still sitting on that 15. The same year, it was some niggas that I was having issues with. We pressed their line. We ended up catching him somewhere. And nigger stood down, and this same nigger killed, like, two people probably like a week later. And the other nigga that was with him killed two children because their mama owed him some money for some dope whatever.

But anyway, we had a run in with three niggas that totally folded. And when they killed niggas, like, within seven days. And I remember telling my cousin, I was like, and I think we might have to move a little different because them niggas probably only didn't have them guns because we was in the middle of the mall. If them niggas had to call us outside, that would have been a whole different conversation.

I probably would have got shot or would have had shot somebody way earlier than I did. So, bro, that was really the wake-up callers. We was out there fucking with people like, we never started shit, but we definitely wasn't into finishing it. But still... Situation that you were... boarded with like, yo.

Yeah, that's, I'm hoping, like, bro, if he had to caught you, like, maybe five miles away from here at a corner store, y'all shit would have ended totally different. Right, right, right. And it showed me, too, like, niggas may be pussy, but when they got their pistol, like, we know, niggas get unpussy.

See, niggas, like, niggins don't understand, okay, you know how I feel to be up on some shit. But have you ever been on the other end? No, bro. You grew on the other hand, ugly, boy. I used to be in aggressive at you with my gun. And I remember, like, one time, being super aggressive, and it was in broad day,

and I met a nigga that. I was like... Really weak that shit. More into the shit than I was like, because I showed my shit. And I'm like, I'm woofing because they stood down. I get my baby mama to come. Let's get the fuck out of it.

Bro, that nigga pulled out of 38 and broad daylight and empty that shit in the middle of the street. I was like, yeah, he's different. Yeah, he's... I look, I only try to shoot that nigga low-key. That nigga didn't give a fuck. Because when I pulled him out, I basically had him. He couldn't do nothing.

That nigga put lightly walked to his car, came out in the middle of the street and stood like this and let that bitch go six times. And it's different when a bullet coming your way. Right. That heart beat a lot faster. I'm screwed up. I'm like, drive this motherfucking car.

This nigga shut it out. Like, I'm trying. You want to be mean to the niggins. Right. Now I want to blitz me to drive. Well, now you're thinking about it like, I should have handled that differently. No, bro. There's some niggas out here that's more crazy than you.

So if you ain't into what they're into, just leave them niggas. Man. That's a motherfucking gladiator sport right there. That gay shit. That gay shit. What? You went to go fight some nigga got stabbed. I told my partner, I said, we are losing.

You understand me? We need to get the fuck out from down here. You understand? We gotta go. These nigga are gonna hold another level. You needn't wanna kill, they don't wanna fight. Yeah, no, bro. I learned my lesson quick.

I'm at that time I did, these niggins are gonna say, I'm like, okay. Yeah, bro, I learned my lesson quick with that though. It's niggas I had way crazy than me. Yeah, but that's the transition. See, we learned from it, you feel what I'm saying? We took the life lessons and we put it over here. So what we learn from the street

and we go over here with the business side, it's like a time 10, because we're willing to learn the game, but now that we got the street hustles in the streets and it's like, boy. Yeah, and I feel like that element makes us fearless. So like when you fucking with a nigga that wasn't scared to die, he's not scared to lose $100,000

because he know he could get that shit right back, or he got the experience and the mentality that he gonna keep grinding until he get the shit back. So yeah, but that's another thing that helped with the corporate structure and just, whether it be brokering business business or conversations of leverage. Them motherfuckers in them suits are not

accustomed to eye contact and motherfuckers with their chest out and their chin up. So when you can do that and articulate, nine times out of ten shit going to work in your favor. People who come from my side of the world got an element and the animal instinct that they just simply don't have. Can't understand and they

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It's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network, Tune in on the IHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Man, speak on the importance of a network, like the strength of having good motherfuckers besides you who believe in what you've got going on and shit like that. Right, we're on that 1,000% of...

Teen. I love popping shit by my company is like 80% woman ring. And you see, like, my lady right there, more women, Tabby, Cadeja, Jasmine, But, I mean, shit, I got $5.00. I don't know. Women just end my life for some reason in abundance. But, no, bro.

I feel like the network is super important. And I feel like it's important. Like, one thing I tell people with building the team is you got to find motherfuckers that's just crazy or more crazier than you. And when I say crazy, I mean by society standards. Because if a nigger say at 12, I'm going to have $100 million by 20, people are going to call you crazy. But for me, bro, fucking with people who believe in, what I believe in, or they just attach themselves to my vision is always a win. I don't want to be around no niggas with the what-ev shit, or maybe we should or, no, when I say go,

we're just going to fucking go. Like, my cameraman, bro, he's a dog. Like, if I'm like, bro, get under the jet and get this motherfucker upside down, bro, gonna get under the jet and catch that motherfucker upside down. So I love surrounding myself with... No, we got other motherfucker that need to hear that.

But no, bro, I love... Get your ass on the plane, nigger. With just motherfuckers who is just as crazy as I am, bro. Exactly. the 85 South Show. Speaking of which, welcome back to the 85 South Show, you dirty, two-sock-wain, mother-off. For two days, too, you know, for two days.

I know you sitting at the house watching this shit with a big-ass undershirt on, for what? Don't tuck it in now, nigga. Big undershirt wearing ass. We got Derek Grace up in here with us talking big shit, man. What would you tell somebody out there? Because it's maybe one or two street niggas out there

who listen to this show what different is man it's like what would you tell somebody who might have who might be up we're trying to who trying to leave that shit alone and be the next day of grace what kind of advice do you give people when they ask you how you do it what should I do okay bro one thing I would tell them is first you got to create your why feel me because that why I'm gonna keep you driving when you got a headache migraines me making no paper purpose marketing marketing ain't hitting on shit advertising Nobody fucking with you, right?

That wise always going to be important. Like, one of my wives is on my wrist. It's say, do it for E. That's my brother that got 15 years. So it's been a lot of times that I've been unmotivated and not feeling like it. But I remember, I want brother to come on to a million dollars cash, a great deal of real estate,

and just fucking just party for the next five years if he wants to. So I'm reminded, but you got to establish your wise. I tell everybody, you got to create rituals, right? Life is fucked up at times. Mentally, this bitch can be draining. So you have to create rituals in which you resort to when you got to, you know, when life gives you too much resistance. And I tell you this, next time you have a happy day, a super fucking amazing day, you need to assess and identify what you did that made your day so fucking amazing. Because when life get too heavy, niggas just got to retreat, go to their happy place, re-rejuvenate, and come out and keep fighting, nigga.

But you have to fight, especially if you're a man. You got to get up off your motherfucking ass and you got to fight. So for me, y'all, you know, take my advice. I like candles. I like slow music. I have a whole lot of sex. I do a whole lot of drugs and I spend a whole lot of time with my children.

That's my happy place. So when anything in the world pissing me off, I retreat to those people, to those things, and I come back out swinging the next day. And thirdly, just a plan of action, man. Like, I don't give a fuck if it's a six-month plan, two-month plan, you're going to have to implement some discipline. I tell everybody that's detached from things of the world.

You ain't going to be nothing. You're never going to be bigger than this bitch if you're of it. You feel me? So a lot of y'all niggas know the stat lines or the playoffs. You know who fucking who, who album the hardest, but you don't know the last time your child had a nightmare. You don't know what the fuck you're going to be doing in the next six months. So fasting is super important.

Y'all, again, you're not going to be anything bigger than this bitch if you're still of it. Exactly. You fast? I'm actually fasting right now. We've been doing no meat. I've been on and off sometimes because the vegan shit get born. Right, right, right. Do you, like, stop yourself from eating at a certain time,

like 8 o'clock. So not necessarily stop, but we typically don't start. So, like, basically the way our morning's work is you have to drink a certain amount of water and you have to have a bowel movement before you even put anything back in your body. So we typically going to just fill up with water in the morning, maybe fruit, make sure we use a bathroom, and then basically you, quote-unquote, allowed to put something back in your body because you pushed out what was previously in there. But yeah, bro, we have rituals, we have sisters.

We have a whole setup. I'm so proud of you. Thank you, babe. I ain't allowed up your shit. To everybody, that shit be looking easy, y'all, but mentally you have to go through a lot of changes. Like, even on the business side, like, that's why the fast and hell with the discipline.

Niggas don't know how to just grind and stay still. What? Nica, want to go borrow with the money or show the money. Like, nah, nigga, I dare you to go run up a million and then go spend that whole fucking million back into your business. So in two years, you're playing with 10 million. So discipline, fasting, all that shit is super important, bro. You gotta stop doing shit before you can start doing shit.

Where y'all pull cake, Nick? By that big, now. Bro, you ain't gotta look it up. I brought all y'all care packages. What, that motherfuck, I'm gonna read that bitch. Stop playing. Stop playing. What?

Jazz, man, here bring me their bags, please. Highly intelligent, nigga from the hood that'll bust your ass. You understand? Man, talk about your hood. Before we talk about all the exciting shit, we got some people out there on the way. And where hood are you from?

You fraud game, throw your hood on. You gotta wrap the set? Yeah, listen, y'all, this is where I'm from. Hold on, let Jasmine drop the badge. If people aren't asking me this question for the law. Thank you, Jasmine. Ha ha ha ha. You're so helpful and amazing.

Appreciate you. Thank you, Jasmine. Thank you, Jack. All right, bro. This is yours right here. Okay, that's okay. I thought of my bag. Oh, shit.

I wouldn't grab that dead. Didn't he with me no more. You got 60 pounds of books. Bro, this is you right here. My boy. And this bag for Chico. I don't chico hand, so we can just put that one on her. Yeah, we're gonna make sure again.

You wrote all this book name. Yeah, bro. Yellow one, the one that made me a best-selling author. So these books right here, these right here really easy, bro. So what I did is just drop the piece of game on each page. It ain't a long read.

Like, you literally can pick that bitch up once a day, catch some game. Somebody bring me to Sharp it, man. I got you, bro. Now, this one right here, that's a 700-page auto biography. That's the first book I ever wrote. And that shit is just about, you know, my crazy-ass upbringing.

Yeah, same. All the wild shit I used to do with the BMs and shoot people. putting all the type of fun shit. You gotta get my brother book. It's talk about it getting stabbed up and all that. For real? Yeah, sir.

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Go get that out right now, Amazon. Oh, look at this shit, D.C. Oh, yes, sir. I need that. Oh yeah, bro, we're gonna jump on that in a second, too. That's gonna get us to that billion. You're Hebrew? No, bro.

You know Hebrew? Bro, I have no religious, uh, no religious grounds whatsoever. Ground whatsoever. Do you seek for it? No, bro, absolutely not. You got toys and everything, bro. No. Said it again, bro?

Robotics. Yeah, so that's Grace Botics, bro. So I brought you out some complimenting robots. But for y'all are the youngians. Bro, all the curriculars, bro, the books, the in-home banking board game. But you do believe in God, though, though? No.

You don't. That concept, uh-uh. What concept? We're the gods. We're God. Oh, yeah, we're having to talk. Oh, bro. All my good and bad in my life

is a direct reflection of my thoughts, my actions and my words. So if I have a fucked up day, it's my fault. And if that bitch was amazing, it's my fault. You need a physical confirmation. Absolutely. No, sir. This is, bro.

You got to jump out on faith, nipple. Hey, you're talking about you gotta fly. Hey, me and my security in the back. Shout out of Lockdown Brown. Lockdown was hanging. He said he's gonna present me some physical evidence on it and then I'm gonna go from there. Some physical evidence.

You need physical, you need to be shown to you. Take me to the kids, bro. So, but look, but then what I'm saying? If you don't see it, you don't believe? No. Bro, you got the whole blueprint right here. You're gonna talk. You're in tanning your motherfucker.

We're gonna talk. It's so long, bro. There's so much good shit to read in here. But fly, check this out. How we made $11 million in the pandemic. Come on, man. Who don't want to see that? Who don't want to read that?

Appreciate it, bro. How did you make $11 million in the pandemic? Well, stay down. I know, bro, just one quick answer is when you find a solution to a problem of a mass amount of people, you're bound to get a bag. And that's just, it's simply, for me, bro, I focus on a related business.

when I teach. I'm able to break down the concepts that confuse a lot of people in a real simplistic way. And I practice inclusion when I teach. So I'm going to give you enough game for your babies, yourself, any sense of shit you can give Grandma-un-unct. So, bro, when you practice in inclusion, you're bound to spread faster

anyway because you're hitting multiple demographics. If I'm giving you a curriculum on how I'm an awesome dad, then one-on guns, then one-on parenting, then one-on finances, you've got six, seven different demographics of people who who gonna invest in that information

because it's clicking on so many, so many different levels. You know what I like about this? Is this this real, real specific? It ain't a lot of, it's not, it's not like a lot of these self-help books where it's a lot of guesswork attached to it. You get what I'm saying,

and it's like, it's right here. Right. It's right there, it's like, these are questions you should ask your kids. How to deal with, you know, anger, all that inclusion. Yeah, mm-hmm, like, you get what I'm saying,

You got a structure foundation, for real. You should what I'm saying? But I think that's what people feel to realize that's how you got to get shit organized through structure. You ain't got no infrastructure. People don't even know what infrastructure is. That's the even breakdown. How you even live, fool?

You feel? You're just up breathing. Bro, that's the fact. I tell everybody, like, time is the biggest asset. So I'm a convenience, man. So, like, we got the yard people. Yeah, for sure, bro. Like, I'm just on that real quick,

when I say inclusion with business, that's what I mean. Those bodies of work will outlive my existence simply because I attach my children to everything I ever made. Man, you got to drop. Where's this available at right now? What's that, bro? All of this. Where are the books? Deeregrace2.com. D-E-R-R-I-C-K

G-R-A-C-E-R-A-C-E-R-A-N-O.com. But yeah, bro, I always been about inclusion. So you'll see the board games got the babies. Each book got the babies, but I want to make sure, like, establishment-wise, The family face is gonna be relevant, you feel me? Until we just decide to stop

for the simple fact that I incorporate them in everything. Right. Do you believe anybody can make a million dollars? Anybody? Anybody. In this day and age, absolutely, bro. Technology and social media, hell, yeah. If you want it, if you want it, man,

you'll go get it. You'll definitely grab that bag. Would you recommend people try it? For people to try it? Yeah, yeah, I would recommend everybody to try it. Then you get money, it's a better economy. Because niggas coming up with shit and more shit for you to buy more shit for you to you You feel what I'm saying like you got money.

You just a nigga with money just buying shit You ain't never doing nothing for your money you just buying shit Definitely got to stimulate the economy Come on man you what are you what identify you you just a M motherfucker breathing buying shit You'd be surprised man how many people are just here And just doing is going through the motion like of what what they, like you said, just what they know,

or what they've been taught or what they saw it. Like, nobody ever even took a chance on their self. Do you think we as a people need to be more, you know what I'm saying, aggressive on those teaching and doctrines amongst each other? Cause we got that crab in the barrel shit, like, we don't want to see a nigga win and we just stick to what we know.

Like you said, you scared to bet on yourself. You'll stack all that money, but you won't even put that money into yourself and do so. And bro, I think that's a direct reflection of the lack of self-love that people have. You feel me? Because a nigger would go get a room at the Ritz Carton and tell a nigger, don't jump on my bed. It's a fucking Ritz Carton, bro.

It's a five-star hotel. A nigger will valet his car. A nigger will purchase the finest of the finesse in weed. But if you ask the nigger how much he invested in books, the conversation probably going to go different. How much as he invested in classes, of course, at a seminar, to just, you know, ask the nigga do he got a free library card. The conversation different, but a nigger's standing outside of a club.

You got a library of a club? I got a library in the crib. Oh, okay. Yeah. But a niggas stand outside the club three times in a month. So to me, bro, it's the lack of self-love. Like, I know a lot with our culture, we see value in everything except ourselves. You know, like, we'll spend our last, so we'll die to be a part of everything except our own goddamn family and ourselves.

Good facts. Just going back, bro, like, so I can answer this question too, not over here. When you mentioned the hood thing, right? Right. This is where I get really confused with the hood shit because, because, number one, if we don't own nothing in the hood, we just providing it with free advertisement. Niggas be holling by culture voters,

but niggas don't understand, like, you spotlight on your hood every time you put it on social media, but you don't benefit from the spotlight when the tourists, who hearing about it a million times, want to come visit that bitch and stimulate that economy because there's no ownership. So at that point, you're just raising the tourist rate for a city that don't give you shit anyway,

and then you're not even able to capitalize off the visits to the hood. Like, just think about hood that's been, publicized at a certain point and now niggas want to go visit and now and treat it like a tourist spot every, I'm serious like that in the A niggas just wanted to come to because they heard this shit a hundred times

in a song. But if the niggas making that same music have no ownership, then there's no benefit. You just free mascots at this point. Right. A nigga gonna come to the A, pull up the little five points, take 20 pictures,

buy some shit from a white-owned company and then draw back to where the fuck they came from. And we still just outside talking about the hood. Right. That's facts. And then to answer your question, bro,

I tell everybody this when they ask where I'm from. I am from my mother's vagina. That's the only thing I'm going to claim. And I feel like niggas get so caught up and claiming cement that they forget to actually cement their legacy. Imagine the nigger knowing you for your hood when you die, but we don't know what the fuck y'all last name is. Your children mean nothing to the neighborhood

because you didn't do anything substantial. So for me, bro, I never really got into, and not knocking nobody that is, but I never really got into the claimant anything. Like, niggas just going to hear grace. That's my only, I got that. That shit, that's all I do is wear my own shit and promote my own shit. So if it ain't unlearn and relearn, my grace tribe,

it's grace, grace, grace, grace bodics, grace essentials. What you're talking about it? DGTV. When I lead this bitch, I need niggas and no grace. So when my children go places my old lady, they still gonna be able to leverage that name and have their motherfucking way everywhere they go. We can't, like right now, bro, when I get jets,

we got such a relationship now that they just give me the jet and have me pay later. I can't go in that bitch and be like, yeah, I'm from 42nd and Fletcher. Let me get it. No, we don't know who the fuck that it. But them graces, though, or them niggas good over here.

Your pops did a lot of business. Y'all get on, get on here and get up out of Florida. So, yeah, bro, I'm from Nohood. I'm from... Straight from the coochie. I'm from Derek Nutz, and I came out of paying vagina, and I just came here and started fucking shit up.

You want your head stay here and start doing drugs too, nigg, I remember that shit, me. Don't be no rude. So, bro, look, when you say drugs, what's you referring to? Because I think a lot of things classified Aw, shit. Nah, come my bar was like, shit.

I do drugs and that shit stuck with me. I was like, what, you know what I'm saying? I can't let my buddy do drugs. You feel what I'm saying? No, bro, we, uh, I stick the acid, weed, and marijuana. Weed and marijuana. Yeah, just weed and marijuana. I mean, no, I'm not.

I'm not. Weed and marijuana. I stick the acid, shrooms, and weed. There I go. Say, yeah, yeah, yeah. My shit is all natural. All natural. Bro, you had me fucked up.

I was like, weed and marijuana. I was like, what I've been smoking? What the fuck? So what Ganges in? So what Ganges? Yeah, bro. Me and the wife took some edibles on the way here, so I'm feeling it's my second time. I'm feeling real good, right?

The little edible kick in. Welcome to the trap, man. We had to get you because I heard you about to retire. You ain't giving up no more free game. So, bro, this is a thing, though. You done? Yeah, bro, I start teaching in August. It's like, it's going to be motherfuckers in the comments on this video that's going to be like,

fuck all y'all, because I've been trying to buy this shit from this nigger for two months and he won't sell it to me. Tell it to me. So no, bro, like, what I just gave y'all, that's not even available no more. I dried up the whole website. And we focusing on DGTV, which is us launching our own independent network. So I'm transitioning from the literature world classes,

courses to running my, just having my own complete network and just being able to do cool shit, say whatever the fuck I want to say. You can't block my live. You can say whatever the fuck do you want to say on it? We don't give a fuck. I got you. I got you.

Yeah. Big pussy. You heard what he said? You big pussy bitch. You big, flat-back camel-looking. And I eat that pussy, so I don't know what he's talking about. Exactly. Sometimes I just have to look at the camera and say some shit sometimes

because people be forgetting you off sometimes. I get pissed, though. I understand. Because they don't even understand. Yeah, bro, I have a similar tactic. I like to troll on social media, so sometimes I just put an outlandish thing. put outlandish things or I may question religion and whatnot just for real we're gonna have a sit down we're have a talk yeah we're gonna have a talk I'm with it bro I love this shit I want to hear I want to

from the physical confirmation people I got bro that's what I want to I want to I want to I want to hear I'm with you I don't need a physical okay I'm gonna give you one one little simple time right here air what about you breathe it right absolutely you know it's there Yeah. Can you see it? I can feel it. I can feel it. Talk somebody.

I can feel it, though. You can feel it. And if it's cold outside, I definitely can see it. When I get close to the mirror, I can see it again. Well, it's in formation of how it was. Bro, you're right there. Come on somebody. This shit can be made up.

Hey hey! Bro, I can see it and I can feel it. Give me my book. We're gonna go to clap. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. But no, bro, that's the physical thing. I can see and feel that.

No, that's more definitely. You know what I'm saying? Faith is, you know what I'm saying? Daring the eyes to go beyond, you know what I'm saying? Daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes can see. Faith is what you make it. That's the hardest shit since MCRien. Great man said that.

His name was Andre 3000. Yeah. But you know, anything is really, if you believe it. Right. I agree a thousand percent. So, like, I'm big on manifestation and speaking certain things into my life. Like, I'll leave on that.

Me too. I'll fuck with manifrey. But see, that one thing about being aggressive and being a hustler, you already know you're gonna, I'm capable of doing what the fuck ever. Right. And if I get a plan and I get people to support the plan, nigger, it's gonna work. Right.

So, bro, that's what I mean. Like, that's exactly what I mean. Like, I don't need to rely on the outside deity for that's what I mean. for that support, because I got that shit covered. You been, bro, to me, it's no different than when, like, somebody go to the hospital and the surgeons say their life and they're like, thank God.

No, bro, the surgeon wouldn't pay his dues for 10 years and bring your ass back to life while you was on the hospital bed. I understand. So spirituality, you don't believe in no spirits and none of that? Like, that there exists? Yeah.

So, okay, so, like, we're alive right now. Absolutely. A damn body dead can't wait to fuck, But are we though? Where that soul go? We could just be a thought. Where that soul go? You can't-

They're still trying to make machines to pump that motherfucker heart back up. I'm telling you, bro, we could just be a thought. What if this is awesome shit that's going on in somebody's brain, which is in a jar? It's like playing down stairs on a shelf. Exactly. Well, bro, this is my theory.

It's like a room full of motherfuckers with that room that they had on the Simpsons with all them computers and this is just a big simulation and they just be purposely dropping certain shit in the game the game to see how they love Sims, which is us going to react this shit. So you think when the soul gone, it's just evaporates? No, bro.

I do feel like we may dwell somewhere else, but I also do feel like it won't be heaven nor hell. I would say this, bro. The Bible, to me, has some great game in it. It has some great principles. But, bro, I just, it's just certain shit I can't surprise. See, in the Bible, it's more so it got prophecies, based off interpretations.

You see what I'm saying? So if the master or the teacher is teaching and you're being misunderstood or being disinformed or misinformed, you know what I'm saying? Because disinformed mean deliberately misinforming you.

You see what I'm saying? Then you have to associate yourself with others to base on, you know what I'm saying, to gather the true knowledge and what they're about. Because one thing about it, they're not trying to turn it

upside down and you can't knock the truth. I got you, bro. And I think that just depends upon what you subscribe to as a truth Facts Because I feel like I am the Alpha and Omega I'm the source

I feel like all life come from me like I am that that Oracle I'm this shit that everything flows from so for me I never I never figured out

or got to a place where I felt like You don't think that you may be you know what I'm saying like prophetic like profound like you may be the divine one Yeah that's because

my pops raised me that way and my mom was on my ass I can't I just I just know for that, bro, I don't get the credit to nobody but myself and the people that brought me here. For real? Yeah, yeah.

Well, let me ask you a question. What's the difference between a man in a suit jumping in a pew and a man with torn clothes that's jumping up outside talking to itself that's dirty? A man in the pew ain't teaching no folk what that Bible really, really saying. You're talking to a Christian slag. I used to be a Christian. I believe in the, in the, what it is when they say,

When you believe in Jesus, you believe in, in, in, in, in what? The, the, the, the, the, the, not the Trinity, no. Huh? Not cold the spirit. You believe in, what was his teaching? He was teaching Christ, but you believe in Christ, you believe in Jesus. Anywho, but I'm a Hebrew Israelite. Okay.

This is basically what the Bible, who's really what the Bible talking about. All right. You sure what I'm saying? Uh-huh. Because you, you think no folk was standing in, who, who Moses went to go say? in 110, 15-degree weather. Yeah, bro, I'm still trying to figure out like how they put mosquitoes and elephants

and all this on the ark at the same time and wasn't no beefing, when there wasn't no clashing. Everybody just coincided, but in 2021 they actually eat each other for a means of survivors. Those are the lost Gentiles. It said it in the Bible that they were going to do that. Look, bro, if it's on the Bible,

you got me. That's all trying to tell you, you got the... I tried to read that shit one time I ate and I was like... This ain't nothing about a cycle. This don't make sense to me. I'm putting this book down, and I ain't never pick it back up. Christianity, you believe in the life of Christ?

That's what I meant to say, just in that form of fashion. But the cycle, it's a reliving cycle. We're doing the same thing. It's just in the different, it's coded. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's so, it's society-based right now. Don't let that build-ness and how these taught business shit fool you. It's the same thing going on.

It just suit it up in a different way. You feel what I'm saying? I agree with that. Like I said, bro, it has some good principles in it. Facts. Facts. But I know for me, like, I didn't need the Ten Commandments to tell me, like, that shit not still. Like, I know that shit not mind.

But the crazy part about it, you're doing it, though. What you mean? You dead hole, yo, the way of life that you live? The rituals and all that. Yeah, yeah, sure. You're gonna talk it without even knowing that you doing it. You doing it. Yeah, no, that's why I say, like, one of the biggest things I took from the Bible was the gift of the sermon,

because I definitely feel like I got that. But I ain't gonna lie. Some of the other parts in there were niggas had 800 wild lines on this other shit, I was like, bro, that this is. I was like, bro, that's... Understood, now, it's crazy. They got sisters and all. Like, you're like, hello, you feel me? But I mean, babe, who was the one dude who had...

Which one? We were talking to the other day, he had like 600, he's like, how is he fucking all that on the day? Everyone went crazy. But see, that's not. Everyone went crazy. But see, at that phone, we had to populate. You know what I mean?

You can. She was crazy back then. You had to walk three miles to go find your wife. She was real. It's not enough few really hours in a day to fuck 600 women and maintain all them personality. The nigg were living in light now. My nigga, God said, hold on, look.

Y'all got to live at 125, y'all tripp. We got to cut the life spread a little bit. I mean, y'all live and live in a mile. It's possible to have 600 holes. He didn't say they all stayed in the same house. He had some holes over here. He has some holes over there. Now, if Moses can walk to Egypt,

Abraham can have 600 old. I had to tell his whole house. How do you nurture six hundred home? That would say that hit a hole, but it's not. It's not that you nurtured 600. It's not that you nurtured 600. It's like five hundred and seven of those were independent. It's a nation.

I'm talking about these, if they work, these motherfuckers who had jobs in that time, they were making bread and bringing air and shit. Good money. It was a lot of shit going on. Mm-hmm. Makes sense. I mean, I feel like they might have just,

you know how they just be bluffing? Yeah, yeah. You walk past the nigger writing the vibe and be like, hey, my boy, tell them my ass six on that hole. On me, oh me, hey, for me, you fuck with them. You know I got the holes, that nigga might have six. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, you're gonna be lasting

for all the turnity. You think you're gonna be like, nobody's gonna listen to a nigga who only had six, oh, it might have been over the span. Right, right. I'm sure 200 of the wives didn't talk to him no more. It ain't like he was active with it. Nah, that ain't gonna get sit on the hole,

but they were sitting them all. He was like, ah, and you. Now, this had a time, well, you know, it wasn't a lot going on, so it ain't like you can get jammed up. What the bitch gonna read some hieroglyphics? Oh, oh, so you've been with Sheba. Who are you going to believe? Me or them old-ass hieroglyphics.

That makes sense, bro. Go to the temple. Because they did say they were living to be like $700 back there. Please go to the pier, man. You got to understand. They would find the sculptures, the niggas, tall in hell, man. We don't eat, but like you say, you fasting.

You're doing, you doing the actual spirituality shit. You see what I'm saying? You doing it right. Just so I can continue to evolve. to the God of my world. Hey, that's exactly what you're doing, man. You're providing, man, you're doing, like you said, you practicing your own form of it.

But you know, whatever works for you. Hey, you might have found the closest shortcut to God to get there and not even know it. Mm-hmm. Shit, it is what it is. See, because this sit-down was, it was destiny, it was divine. You feel what I'm saying?

He got out in your footstep. Oh, that's what about? Oh, it was more dead. Okay, okay. Hey man, whoever is the creator of put this shit together. Whoever put this shit together, whether he did or he didn't. Somebody made this shit happen or something. He did.

They're motherfuckers bad. Think of the shit that happened, nigga. You got nuts, right? You fuck a woman tonight and you put sperm inside of her. Another motherfucker coming out. And didn't this thing about to swim in some liquid in a stomach for the... Come on, man. breathing.

Nigger. Amphibian. You don't think babies are amphibia? Come on, man. God, this nigga cold, man. This nigga invented lungs. We be amphibium. How do you need lungs?

Intestants, gallbladders and shit. Bro, I've asked myself the same question. We got a belly bun. That's an important. Touch your belly bun right now. That shit. She's sensitive. This is how cold God is.

The nigga made giraffes. The fuck we needed some giraffes, for. In the top of the truth. Come on, man. Come on, man. giraffes are just horses that God messed up on. I can believe that, bro.

He's like, hold up, this ain't what I thought was going to look like. It looked like the land thing. The fuck is an octopus, man. Don't nobody even know what that shit is. So, bro, let me ask you a question when it. Rhinocry is a dinosaur. With the whole God

concept. Talk. How can we logically believe that he's able to answer all those phone calls he'd get on the daily and nightly basis. He ignored most of that shit. That's my exact cinnamon, bro.

He ignored most of it. So, like, logically as a people, how do we genuinely believe that we're speaking to somebody that's going to put us on the waiting list to then soon come answer our shit? That's because we don't believe in nothing mightier than us.

God already gave us what we're asking for before we even asked. Like, he knew before we knew that we was going to need the shit. The shit already on the way. He's just trying to. and see what you're gonna do in the meantime.

It's like, you might figure this shit out before the real blessing come. But it's like, you know what I'm saying? Girl, can you imagine the diabolical process behind? And he wants you to call it name. Knowing some shit before it happened and intentionally fucking it up and then watching it unfold in a negative manner?

But you can't. What you mean, watching it unfold in a negative manner? Like, bro, if I knew all, before all, I wouldn't send my son to go get killed. I would have just eradicated the bullshit and we went on about our day. But see, that's just like the matrix. This is good intuition.

One action gonna lead to another action. You might save your son life, but you might kill somebody else close to you. Right. It's like you can't, you cannot step outside the divine plan. Facts. You get what I'm saying?

So even when you watch every movie where they say, oh, we can't do this because this happened, like that Denzel Washington movie, Deja Vu, when he figured out that they could fuck with the time in the space, but it's like, everything that you do that's gonna fuck up the future, you can't go and play with the past without fucking with the future.

It's like, that's just the laws of science. Mm-hmm. I just know, for me personally, bro, before I sent my son to go get smoked, I just would fuck tinkers up and kill whoever I need to kill and just went on about my business. You see, that good intuition because, like you say, you're militant.

That comes with, you knowing what going on. You're not no fool. So we said God didn't have intuition at that moment. He didn't know they was gonna kill the time? That's not God, that's called divine intervention. Yeah. When you took shit into your own hands, That's when you intervened.

Well, bro, if you're the overseer and he know all, he shouldn't even create that divine. But see, I'm saying you have the willpower, all right, like how you say, you have the willpower to say this or that. Exactly. All right. Now, the spirit is gonna tell you,

you already know the spirit we're gonna tell you to go here. Now, you could easy, everybody is easy to do the fuck shit. It's real easy to be a fuck nigga. It's so easy. I can just be like, fuck y'all, I'm gonna be a snake. Ooh, that's the easy way of living. But it's hard of being a real nigga.

even want to grab the spirit and want to be a divine, you know what I'm saying, walking those divine footsteps. So it's like, okay, I know I'm battling shit and I know shit is bad. All this shit that you hear it, it's a fight you can't see. You understand?

It ain't that these are your thoughts that you walk around. No, these are spirits and that's really fighting over your soul. You see what I'm saying? So you got to be walking there and divine knowing that God's going to, you know what I'm saying,

be there to protect your footstep. But like you say, you got to be willing to fight. I know I'm going to go out here and be fighting these motherfuckers who fucked up in the head who ain't really walking in the manner that I walk.

Righteousness, but I need to be righteous and be ready to fight. Just like it's the opposite side of righteous. I mean, if you was moving in a fucked up spirit and you was doing evil fucked up shit just on the regular with no remorse, then you would be moving on the side of evil. It's like, like I said, it's science.

You can't have one without the other. It's like, you don't have to subscribe to no religion or believe in these principles, but it's like you're still a righteous man. So that's why you're on the side of righteousness, so... Talk your thought, look. So he feels like even though I don't believe he's still looking not for me.

Oh, he's going to keep people around to let you know. He's going to inform you every time. Hey, y'all brother, I'm here. Right. Because you're a righteous man. You're on the side of good. You're walking it. You're walking it. Like you said, you already been on the side of,

you know what's over there. So when you made the choice to not be over there, you chose up. You chose it. And by you, when I'm here, hearing it, I'm divine, bro. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, that ain't, you know what I'm saying? Because he also said there'll be Gentiles

that are walking that form of fashion, but there'll be fake. Ain't nothing fake about you, brother. You see what I'm saying? You already wanted his chosen ones, because if you weren't, it wouldn't be no stack of books right here. You could have kept all this to yourself. And like you said, this ain't just no gift. This is knowledge, this is wealth.

This is the legacy. This is part of his divine plan, bro. These people need to hear this. This ain't, this ain't, I know what you're doing. You're building a legacy, but so many people that fuck with you, he need the Congress to hit it. They got how many people you don't already touch. Like you say you stop teaching.

But you can't, but you can't stop teaching this shit if you've tried. Your face is famous at this point. It's your calling. Just like how you said, you building the, you're building the name for grace is also building the legacy that people need the doctrines. Exactly. The way of that to live, he's already showing you, bro. He doesn't put it in you.

That's exactly what this platform is for us, for people like us to be able to tell people like you that what you're doing is dope and we see you and we salute you. I appreciate it. Exactly. My shit didn't get heavy, man. We ain't preaching to you, we're reaching to you.

Because we know, like, bro, look at the shit that you didn't achieve in America where a nigga don't stand a chance. Absolutely. The nigga don't stand, this really look like, uh, bro. Yeah, man. When you speak, people listen. Thank you, bro. I appreciate it. You're doing your motherfucking shit. Yeah, man.

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You're doing it. You understand that? This motherfucker don't reach a lot of folk. Hell yeah. With good shit. You don't wrote your own bibles, man. Of course you ain't going to believe it. That is one thing I'm proud of, bro, is I never had to compromise or be anything I didn't want to be.

I came in how I wanted to maintain it and left out how I wanted to. We ain't never had to tap dance or change the tune of our shit and none of that, everything. Yeah, bro, shit, I'm proud of my confidence and just having a boss to fund things independently because a lot of my business moves like, I mean, we first dropped the board again. We had a conversation with a, I can't even remember the people named who made Monopoly. But anyway, Hasbro, yeah, one of the executives told us three things we would need to do is to soften the information in the game. Because that game talked about the sentencing discrepancy from power to the crack cocaine, all type of shit the board game. They were like, we would need to change the name.

You ever seen the other board games where they'd have a city and they say Opelie? So that's basically what they were trying to make me do with that. And yeah, and basically just, basically softening the information, quote-unquote, but the confidence, bro, just the ability to reinvest in myself helped us skate past all that. We never needed their help, never needed their handouts, never needed nothing. And we done done all this shit our way.

That's fact. Hell yeah. That's fact. I know you got a question. Well, my only question is can't keep a good question. Yes, sir. You got your test early

so you're going to have to go work for another body. Now, how do these people receive you when you go and promote everything that you're doing? They're going to look at you one way, but then when they get their information and how smarts you are, but I'm sure they're accepting of change. So how you approach that? Well, I'm going to be honest with you.

I actually like being the elephant in the room. I like the suspense and, like, the shock value that come with them judging me from the exterior, but when they find out we can articulate, we're more dangerous than them. We have way less tools, and we run up a bigger bag. The condensation and the energy always changed at that point, but I actually love being in those spaces. I love going places whether it be when we board in a jet

or whether it be at a dealership or a certain neighborhood I love being in those spaces and bro I just call it disruptive intelligence you feel me we highly wise but we are going to be silently disruptive when we come wherever you at because the energy and the presentation alone

going to make motherfuckers stop and turn their head to be like who is that and what's going on this is another question I got to ask you man you got this big ass chain with a legend on there man Nipsey Hustle, like he cemented in history, in the community, in the culture, bro, it's like, how big of an impact did his life career music have on you?

I got you, bro. So this goes back to something we were just talking about. That boy, that profile. That boy that. Yeah, bro. Nip, to me is what that Bible says Jesus is. That's to me, to me, that was a physical being. I was able to be around.

What if he was Jesus? Just what if? I mean, bro, that's an awesome what if, but I know, like, the times we spent when I was around him, it was definitely either somewhere between Army and St. Nipsey, that's what I do know. Right. But I feel what you're saying.

What if? Yeah. No, Jesus was a real nigga, he had 12 disciples, man. They were some knuck ahead, you know what I'm saying? But most kept a shit. You know, what they don't tell you is, is the 12 disciples, they was called the rolling 12. Nobody ever say that part.

No, they were called the roll. They were on the nigger. You can't say that, because that ganges a disciple. It wasn't just 12. That was deep as fuck. That was just the name of the hood. Neighborhood. I'm telling you.

Look how they did Jesus. No, I feel you, bro. But yeah, bro, we, um... Knit was one of the first people to support me, and it was crazy because they happened to be like one of the only rappers I had really subscribed to that I felt like was giving us that solid, real man, gangster shit, but also fee.

in our minds at the same time. So, yeah, bro, this is the piece I got after his passing, got his birthday, took forever, one of his sayings. And, yeah, bro, this is actually one of my favorite pieces. I don't wear it that often no more. I really wear my light jersey. I don't wear these a lot no more because they hurt a whole lot. But, yeah, this is my biggest piece for now,

but I got another one coming. The piece alone, three and a half kilos in the chain, 1.5. So I'm going to bring that one out sometime around Thanksgiving. What's some of your top nifty songs? Mark My Words. Mm-hmm. Literally, bro, every song he ever made with Ross. The outro to Crenshaw.

I mean, if I had just pick on Victory Lab, I would say, young nigger, him in Cilo. Shit, that's really my favorite one. Bro, that's really why I got the piece two kilos. because he said two kilos on my neck, like the fucking 80s. It was the only right. I went and made sure it was two kilos. Right.

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Um, one thing I want to leave him with, bro, is, y'all the censorship and the controlling of our individual thoughts is fucking like it's shit at an all-time high the shit crazy so that's the whole reason why i took it upon myself to retire from that literature and teaching shit and really go fully independent so we own our own bandwidth we coded our whole shit independently but we're rolling out dgTV this gonna be a platform you know similar as such what motherfuckers can be themselves right ain't no censorship no rules and regulations, ain't none of that. I want to give a shout out to one of our

signies. I want to officially share it on here. My bro was just here, but Black Rambo officially signed with DGTV. Black Rambo. That's my bro. We've got some crazy. We've been working on some crazy shit. I can't wait to y'all see it. That's what's up, man? So what's the submission process for the

independent creators? They're going to be sending it, man. Yeah, bro. So, like, right now we actually cast them for two new shows. Like I said, my brother had been down in 11 years. and he had a lot of loopholes in his case. So any attorney that's watching this that can practice in the state of Florida, we literally have an open castor car right now.

I personally, I'm going to pay you a quarter million dollars if you can get my brother home and you get a one-year contract with DGTV. Another casting call is me and the wife are currently looking for a girlfriend. So we're working on that show. We got like eight other shows that we're doing.

They did say you was a market in genius. I've been on this bitch for this long and I've never thought to do that. So yeah, bro, we, uh... We weird, too, man. Me and my wife, bro, that's a million-dollar t-shirt. I won't have, I won't end on that. Me and my wife looking for a girlfriend.

Bro, we're selling them bitches all that Disneyland everywhere. In church. Me and my wife looking for a girlfriend. You understand? But yeah, bro, man, we got the, we got... It's DGTV, y'all. We got the network coming out in a couple weeks. Man, listen, y'all, we got comedy, fitness.

Comedy. Me and the wife and the kids, we got a whole reality show, bro. That's about the shit going on. Comedy. Pop your shit, man. Sure, bro. You ain't said nothing about no comedy.

So I got the show right nothing. You're going to buy it? Oh, no, bro. We definitely answer that. Let's do it. We definitely put that bitch on DGTV. I know shows like family matters don't airs on it no more, so I know me and my attorney was recently talking about

us licensing that, you know, Tim, really, so people go watching. Anytime we have people on here, I always pitch shows and shit. All right, check this out. Go crazy. It's a show, right? I got you.

The kids is trying to get their mom out the gang. Out of the gang? Their mama is a motherfucking, she's a pimp. She's a whole gangster. Oh, okay. Won't stop gangbanger. She won't stop what? Her 50th birthday coming up.

She won't stop. What side she is? Huh? What side she is? We ain't even decided all that yet, but she's just in the streets real heaven. Kids are successful, then graduated college and everything. But they always gotta go and get their mum to have some shit.

She ain't got no license, be drinking and shit. We'll talk about it. So look, so look, that's the writer right there, Cadeza. So look, you get a thought of her, bro. The name of the show is, my mama thug. I want to go straight to the DVD. You said, my mom is a thug.

My mama thug. I got a good show, because my brother want me to trick. Go ahead. He came on an intervention. He said, that's the only way I do it. Man, we got a trick of him into going into that? See, he want to do the intervention. We need the black version of intervention.

He said, I'm going to act like I ain't going to know they called. Oh, okay. Get off that shit. When we help people get off that shit. See, the tide got to be, you got to be real. It is real. I'm going to act like I'm off this shit. That's the, that's going to have to be the follow-up.

Act like I'm off that shit. That's the follow-up. When you get out, he'll get out here. Oh, so you're going to come in here and act like you ain't on this shit. Man, go ahead, man. Don't play on me. Ain't nobody getting nothing. Man, man.

Go ahead, bro. We gonna throw it to Cadeja, then Cadeja gonna script it out, turning it to a movie shit. Yeah, look ahead, man. I think she's like a three-time, four-time best-selling author as well. Pop your shit.

Okay, Ben. Shout out to Cadez. Which one, Cedia? Because I'm looking at motherfucking mother, like, my name ain't. And we all know Derek like freaking shit. So look, on some late night shit, we need to have a show where it's just ladies

with pretty feet, just come through and wear like new house shoes and shit. Niggas what it's called. He's it got to be pretty feet now. From the ankles down. All right, just feet. Just feet. Just feet.

That's a good idea. We might need to jot that one down. Old-ass niggins, suck-told, man. We didn't have a beach hat on there. Put your feet in my mouth, that is. And you know what? Come on right after that? What?

Fining work pants. Finding work pants. We're doing travel all around the country and just find women that's fine in their work pants. Oh, fine and we're gonna just give them so much respect and love for coming to work fine on a Wednesday. Yeah, no, that would be a good show. Bime lunch.

Find them. and work pants. The more women have been having a little lawyer suits. Ooh. I'm talking about like KFC managers, Topo Bell assistant manager. A little blackie. Yeah. They ship.

Gotta have a little pie on them. Yeah. They ship. You know the whole thing about them pants is like, it's supposed to make you look like you ain't got no ass. But when she came to work and she had like her work built and it got the little din in the back, Lord. You said a little boot crank a little bit.

Bro. When she bent over, you're like, ooh. Lord. Got a little tissue in. Lord. Hey, bro, you know what? I did have one thing I want, one more thing I want to share with you.

Oh, look, before you do that, it's not right if you come on the show and you don't get a piece of something from my guy right here, New Face, he got all kind of shit. I don't know, New Face, what you bring? What you done, bro, because... That's my bro for a long time.

This one thing y'all didn't talk about. Like, if you look at the back of this album, he's not a rapper, but he's a Grammy-nominated artist. Who? Me? He don't even like to talk about. He said he don't like to talk his shit a lot. Look at the back and see what it's on.

One is that you talk about that. My bad, Newfey. We ain't know, bro. He got a whole song on Rush the Five Nine album. He's just, not, no, no, he's like, y'all ain't talk about it, but I'm just, nah man, we're gonna grab a number there and add. Just talk about it. Fuck, nigg.

Look on the back and read. Mr. Grace. Yeah, for sure. Damn. Newface. Early in the interview, he said he don't really like to just pop his shit too much. But I told him. Never seen Newfay mad, bro.

You're all right, bro. He like, read the back. I'm gonna give it a shot tonight, bro. I'm gonna give it. I did. We did. Which one I'm focused on. Take you one.

Okay, so look. I'm gonna talk my shit real quick. My man. Listen, I just want to remind y'all, you feel me. I'm gonna take a line from Brett Hart. I'm the best that ever was. I'm the best that is and I'm the best that ever will be. Ain't no family fucking with mine.

Ain't none of y'all children cooler, more dangerous, more wise. Ain't nobody fucking with me. Mentally, I'm the most dangerous niggas the planet got right now. There is not another nigga that came out of 1989 that's fucking with me. My family gonna be one of the most dangerous One of the most unfuck woodable And one of the most wealthy And I told y'all

We done chasing them M's If it's not a beat I ain't got shit to talk about So we leverage in our own platform I put all my own dough up We got a 40-something person team And they're killing shit as we speak I'm on set with the bros

And they back in Florida Shooting running shit down I'm turning niggas in the stars We don't look for deals We sign people and we give them deals You feel me I'm gonna wrap it up My old lady finer and more nurturing and nastier

and fly than anybody's. You feel me? And y'all know, I ain't got to take too much, you feel me? Shout out to my mom and daddy why I'm on here, Dad. You a stand-up, nigga. Listen, my daddy from a hundred-25th in Broadway.

He's from the hood. And he retired, Secret Service. He gave me the best of both worlds. That's why I'm one of the most dangerous niggas y'all ever come across because I can play on both tracks. I know more than a lot of people in our world and I know way more than the motherfuckers

y'all think are actually our oppressors. I run them niggas in my world. And there we go, I just talk my shit. Man, man. Man. Man. I know the white folks, man. Like, God damn it, boy, that motherfucker.

I don't know who he's talking to you. Ooh, that's the one way. Turn that goddamn shit off. Turn it off! No, he had me all the way up until the end. Turn it off. He had me. I was a mistake.

We have watched the goddamn shit again. Hey, y'all, and we put our own door up, and we got our own guns, you feel me? So however motherfucker ever wanted me to meet us in life, in life, we practice preventative maintenance. We'll be there and we'll push right past you. So y'all ain't canceling shit. I'm gonna talk my shit to the day I die and we're gonna keep winning and y'all gonna keep

send them happy black children running around ruling shit and being mentally dangerous. That's right. Because we're about to make some more. I mean. As a bro, I'm actually working right now. I'm a 7. See? Seven? Yeah. I won't team. I'm gonna catch up. I'm gonna get two. I'm gonna just get, I got one. Okay. I got one. I had to make sure I was doing this That nigga, why he's gonna have a bunch of them at once

and then I didn't fucked up all three. Nope, I had to make sure I was good. No, bro, I respect that, bro. Look, people, bro, people don't do that and they subject their children the 10 years are fucked up living because niggas just want to be irresponsible with sex. Children don't ask you for this welcome party

to the world. You forced it on them. You post to make this shit as breezy as possible. I respect that, bro. The best fucking birth control I ever came across in my life. What's a baby mama? That's it.

Why the fuck, man, come on, man. You got you tired of that. Man, you know how, like, in life you can fuck up, and then it's like, if you don't just, if you stop doing it, it'll just be like, there's just some shit you did. If you don't tell nobody, they don't know. Yeah, everybody knows when your fuck up is the baby mama.

It's right there. Oh, damn, so you're saying the baby mama is the fuck up. I'm just saying. He's like, that the fuck up. I mean, man. I fucked up. It's just like when your uncle or somebody pick you up in school, they were like,

Who rat is that? Mine. He said, I can't run from it. Y'all was fucking, we did. I feel that, bro. And then, that's do it, we did. We did. It's not me.

I just know some niggas with some terrible baby mammas. I know one niggie, man, this niggie is he can't, his face don't even. smile no more. That nigga ain't been happy. It's so long. It's just, he's just, he's just a great dad, but.

Bro, look, he probably need to check out the co-parenting curriculum I wrote. No, it's not about co-parenting. It's just, it's done at this point. It's old. That nigga, hope gone. It's out of there. He's just, oh, you ever seen a nigga with no hope?

Yeah. That's unfortunate, bro. He just don't even try no more. Like, hey, Eddie, what is it? He's like, you ain't never have it, bro. Some niggins this thing gave up, bro. What? Shout out to all the baby mommas, man.

There's a lot of baby dad's doing shit. I'm not trashing or, you know, making fun of the baby mommas. Shout out to all our baby mommas. I love you. Hell yeah. Shout out to my baby mommas, too. You're right, man. Shout out to baby mama.

I would shout out to everybody. Baby mama. just bring some positivity to the community. Shout to my baby mama. She's a great mother. Yeah, yeah. Eat your pussy. Yeah, I'm gonna catch up with y'all, man.

Me and my girlfriend, look for a girlfriend. I'm about to find me, I'm about to give me some new baby mammas. New baby mama's coming soon. Bro, you got to pull her up. No, I ain't get no baby mums. Get you 600 wild, that's something. No, I ain't gonna get 600 wild anymore.

I'm like, man, he's sad. Yeah, my man, he's sad. I'm all real. I'm already a whole baby daddy out here. I got it. I don't know how I'm gonna make baby number two yet. I don't know if I'm gonna be like, I don't know what approach to take.

I don't know if I need to take like the sucker-in-love approach or do I need to be like, do I need to just like pick me who I like and then trapper? I don't know what I'm doing yet. Bro, just grab who you like and let her know you're in the rush right now, so you just need her to carry it in a rush, though.

Okay. I'm just trying to see like. Right. You just don't want the relationship, you want the baby. No, it's not even that. He didn't want the baby. It's not that. Because I told you, that shit too rough.

Right. Co-parenting. That's why you write a book about it. Because if it was easy, everybody could do it. Right. It is a struggle, bro. It definitely could be a struggle. Yeah.

Especially when my motherfucker ain't on the same page. Yeah. That's a fact. Hell yeah. You're trying to teach the baby about guns and shit, and she ain't with it. Right. Well, that's why I tell everybody, parenthood is a competition.

You feel me? child biggest influence or the music, TV, the home girl, the homeboy, whatever the kid, or the teacher's shit. That's fact. Even sometimes with mom and dad, when I say competitive on me to try to take each other out, I mean, whatever game and information you're trying to impute until your child, you've got to be overly consistent because somebody's going to get their mind. Right.

Yeah. Shout out to all the teachers out there, man. The good ones. The good ones. The good ones. And I always wonder, you know how everybody had that story where they were like, My teacher told me I wasn't gonna never be shit. Shut up, you just ain't shit.

My name was Dr. Freeman. She told you you weren't gonna be shit. Yeah, bro. It was King High School, Dr. Freeman, 12th grade. She told me, she was like, well, that's why she didn't say I wasn't going to be. She was like, that's probably why you're not going to grow up and get a decent job or be able to make no real money. That's not even how you make no real money.

That's a sign thing just in the corporate world. Like, you ain't going to grow up and get no decent job and make no good money. Like, bitch, I ain't shit. Yeah, that's basically what she wanted to say, but she ain't said like that. Bitch, I wouldn't be shit, dude. Does every school have that teacher this growing up right to tell the student? You ain't never gonna be shit.

Yes, bro. Facts, I had that shit said to me, too. I'm like, I laughed at that, though. Real? And then one day their children bring them the phone, then I'd be like, Mom, look at this dude on YouTube, and you'd be like, God damn. Look at that motherfucker, he not only became shit,

but he influenced him my children. I see my teacher, he tried to hide from me. Caught his ass slipping. Mm. We had one teacher that sold weed on the side. I knew shit was hard then. I used to sell weed in my teacher. Nah, I'm talking about the teacher.

He would sell weed on the side. Y'all couldn't have that. You're talking about the trade. You're talking about the trade. I did it. No, the teacher, he had, he tried to, like, supplement the income. That was his side hustle.

He was a sell weed on the weekend. On the weekend, like after school, school, he was, I can't, I ain't, whatever. I ain't gonna give him to teach some weed. I hadn't got caught gambling. I had gave him some weed, so he wanted to snitch on me. I ain't gave him to teacher shit. He was like, give me some weed, cause y'all know you said it.

I was that motherfucker who used to have, like, the teacher used to have to come get me out the hallway for leaving early, like, you know. You were one little kids, your lead kid. I was the first motherfucker out of the class. He said, get out. Hold on, hold on, all, all, all on. Uh-uh, she used to stay by the dough.

You're not leaving out of here until three o'clock. I'm like, well, you gonna be standing right there, because if you move, you're out of here. I'm out of there. Yo, your classroom has had no doze or something. That's what I'm saying, she was standing in front of the, why the fuck would I be in a class with no doors? I don't know, cause my class ain't had no doors.

Yeah, I was good at school, like. Huh? How y'all got in? It was just like a little dough. Like inside, some class had doze, then some it was just like, you just walked straight in the clad, guys. I went to a great school. We had doors.

Y'all ain't no push. You just walked straight. in the class. Right, right. Like, anybody can walk in and be like, who in this class? I went to a grade school. We had all doors. It was great.

He was crazy. Yeah. I learned a lot of shit. But the shit that I know is obsolete now. I knew that when I was trying to help my son with this schoolwork. I don't know none of this shit no more. No, bro. I understand.

I've struggled with... No, kid, for real. Great shit, because it's just been so long since I've seen it. So how you do it? So you got five girls, so I got two. And I know them girls, you gotta be attentive. Absolutely. They needy.

Yeah, bro, so like one, like one of my children, my three-year-old is autistic, so she's very needy. Like, she requires a lot of attention. So bro, just having a schedule in the system, and I retired my mom in 2018. What? The wife did the same for her mama last year. So, like, in my neighborhood is 13 cribs.

I got a couple of them, so my mama literally down the street. So between us as playing like the mom and dad role, they got her mom. in the house, and then my mama two houses down. So it's a good foundation. Yeah, yeah, bro, it definitely, it takes a village, just a village of graces. I don't do that village shit.

So if you, a nephew, an uncle, or a neighbor, please don't hit my children because you're going to get probably fucking around and get shot. When I say village, I mean between me, my lady, and the mammas. Not all that old school village shit, but yeah, bro, we have a good foundation. So, bro, I'm just, especially with my daughters, I do have to be nurturing, and, like, that's something I'm learning,

even more so now just being emotionally intelligent. Or don't, like, we can't keep this missing our daughter's tears by saying you too pretty to cry. Niggas really got to start breaking down. Why is she actually crying? How can I rectify that? You feel me? We don't want to build them up to where they genuinely start to feel like at 20.

I shouldn't express myself because I'm a pretty girl, so I'm going to hold these tears back and suppress how I feel. So just emotional intelligence, bro, learning how to nurture them more and just teaching them how to kill people if they ever have an issue. That's fast. See? You always get extreme. I always gotta throw the extreme shit at the end.

I'm gonna play with the Barbies all day. And I don't wanna help. Like, she's like, come play with me, Daddy, and I don't be like, well, hold up, baby, then I'm missing time on playing with my daughter. I gotta grab that Barbie. Man, get your hands over there, man, and talk your shit.

Yeah, bro. You flipping all day. All right. Parents, it's like, children can relate to us way more at our level. So, like, a lot of times when I speak to my children, I get on my knees and I get eye level with my daughters. And also, bro, for the adults,

It's almost like a form of, like, decompressing because it actually brings us back to a state of nostalgia when we actually was that size and running around. So that's one tactic I really use every day with my children as I get on my knees and talk to them. We get our level. They don't feel like I'm a superior standing over them, man. You got some good-hand knee, but I can't, I can't.

She got hardwood flow, you understand me? I'd be dragging the pillow with me here where I go. Let me put the pillow down before I get there and talk to you. Nah, man, you came through and you put us up. on a whole lot of game, man. Bro, I got one more thing to put y'all up on. All right, bet. Come on, man, give up the game.

I don't know which business it is. Like, the fifth of the sixth one, buddy. See? What's that? You try to play that shit out. That shit hurt. But yeah, bro, I got an art business. The name of it is the Grace's Centres.

I tell you, I'm big on my last name. So my partner came up with this dope-ass idea. Your last name, Grace. Yeah. I know. Yeah, we stamped that shit with here. I know. You can't avoid it, man.

You don't even know how close to you is. You can't avoid it, man. You don't even know how close he is. Me and my, well, not actually me. I'm giving all the credit to my partner, but he came up with this dope-ass idea to present you all with something. You feel me?

As an honor, a gift of our appreciation, and especially a token of his appreciation, because he's the one that actually created it. So, Alvin, if you could slide up, over here, bro, and show them what we're delivering today. Oh, shit. Oh, that five. Man, look at this.

We got to put it in the trap. You got to put it in the trap, man. Hey, man, thank you. How the hell did you sneak that big-ass shit in here? I seen that, nigga. I ain't know what he was doing. Nah, man, I fuck with it. Thank you, man.

That's dope. We're retarded, Jim. Color and book? Basically, I'm big on representing if people are living We don't want to wait until they did To honor them like NLK and everything and all that stuff

So y'all are doing big games For the back community So what I want to do is The people who we present Hold up, man Yeah, we got to hit that shit Yeah, bro, we've been sitting on this for like a month and a half

What? Shit. Sitting on this? Yeah. That shit crazy. Hold on. I got to get that shit. I'm about through the whole pandemic, gang.

That shit crazy. Thank you, man. We're putting this up. It'd be hard. Move them over. Yeah, move them over. Man, I'm going to the condo today, boy. I'm tired.

I'm going home. Ooh. I want to say a village. You got land? You got acres? Yeah. Yeah. That shit crazy.

He close. He's crazy. He just want you to know he close. It's crazy, man. man. Right. He closed, babe. You're gonna take that initial step.

Damn, they should have put Craig on that bitch. It'd be hard. Good to go? All right, so, yeah, so basically what we do when we're presenting it to all the big people that we present to, we want to make it a way to y'all can earn money as well as an asset. So we're gifting it to y'all, but it's an asset for y'all. you know, with art, it appreciate what time.

Facts. So with this, two ways, it's multiple ways y'all gonna make money. So one, when we do a coloring book, it's gonna have this similar portrait collage, and then we're gonna, you'll be able to get realties when a coloring book sold, because we do like 100, top 100 black leaders

that are currently living, and we're gonna push it to the school districts and stuff like that, and that's one way you get royalties. Another one, I feel all about NFTs. Yeah. So I'm gonna create this as an F.T. Then once it sells, you get a percentage of that as well. Also, when we put this on the website

and it sells, you'll get 30% of the net profit when those prints limited edition sales. So it's just a thing where everyone wins. The art collector wins, as in DG. You win as an art piece. And also, if you wanted to gift this, let's say that you got this piece and you wanted to put it in TI's, a trap museum,

where it could be, y'all can gift this to him. and it would be a tax deductible for the 85 South show. Man, we know the plug! Thank you, man. That's a big shit. We appreciate that. Brought some assets through this bitch.

Yeah, so, yeah, it's y'all, man. So I appreciate y'all, everything y'all do. Thank you, bro. That's love. Go fuck with it, man. 85 South Show, the coldest podcast South Hill, man. Shake your hand, gang. Love, brother.

What are you? Well, y'all want me to lean this up at on. Shit, right there? Right on Jasmine? Oh, my, boy. You know, the old name can't say nothing. Man, blah, man. Oh, you want to get, come on, man.

Yeah, shit, yeah. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Hey, let me want, shit, come on, boy. I said, yeah. You know what I said? Hey, you know what I said? Hey. But you.

Hey. Hey. Hey. Hey. That motherfucker's still moving, man. Hey. Hey. Hey.

What you're talking about? Hey. I ain't said nothing. I ain't seen nothing. Oh, there's got my wife. You better not say nothing. No, I ain't there. There ain't been nothing.

There ain't looking at nobody. Hey. What's you talking about? You saw them fap. Mm-hmm. Got them failed? Did they win? No.

Oh, shit. I ain't mean to bring it up. Alright. Been losing money since 90. Look, man. We've been wrapping this shit up for a minute, but we ain't gonna keep you in here, man. You got great vibe, great energy, great spirit, man. Don't let this be the last time, bro.

I know you're about to get out the game and shit. Come on, man. Come on, I know you get out the game. We need the books, man. But man, you can come in here and talk your shit in the trap anytime you want to, man. Especially when you get the new chain. At least tag us in the photo or something. For sure.

Me, man. I'm gonna take the chain on tour for sure. Most definitely. That's what's up. What's shit? Oh, we got some gifts for you too then. I ain't know if the gifts had got here yet. Thank you, bro.

Let go, my guy. Hold on up, man. Then you know, my people, man. They'll see you get me right, man. They support me at, but I'm gonna make sure you get something this shit. Exactly. Okay.

Coach's podcast. Everybody got feet, so everybody needs socks. We're gonna make sure you get some of this shit too, guys. Appreciate it. I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, man. Get a cameraman one of them hats or something. Or bust the top out.

However y'all dread, do it, man. Yeah, y'all, bro. These going straight in the art room. I got an art room. Matter of fact, bro, can I get these signs? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. You want it on the bill?

I need a friend too. I need a friend. I need a friend. I'm the poet. The hoist one here. No you're not, bro. I'm gonna put Faith on here. Well, yeah, man.

We got you some swag bag and all that shit, man. But look. DC, what's you leaving them with, bro? Man, shit, this shit from Spain. Show him the faith. Hey, you aren't. No, man, no, man. But you know what I'm saying?

More shit popping off. You know what I'm saying? More deals on the way. More TV show, more movie. Matter of fact, I think the move with me. The movie with me wrote him in Jason Milton, Jason Mitchell, and Kerry Hilsson. I just saw the bro last week,

shout out of Jason Mitchell. Mo different, that's OG, that my boy, for the love of money. It's gonna drop in November. Okay. You know what I'm saying? So, you thugging it. Thugging it and loving it.

You did? Hell yeah. I got a movie coming out with me, D.C., and Chico is going to. It's gonna be about the 85 South show. We're working on. We're working on. We're working on.

You can stop clapping. I already, I'm getting Anthony Anderson to play your part. I already talked to him. I already talked to him. He said he went. I was gonna get Terrence Howard to B.J.O.M. But I don't know yet.

I don't know yet. I don't know yet. I don't know how to DJ Mike. It's up between him. and the dude that play Antoine Fish. Hell, nah, you can't put no dog-skinned nigga right there with Joe. Yeah, I could.

That's how, that's what I'm doing. There's too much. There's what I'm doing. You gotta have a light-skinned, nigga. Who I'm getting to play Joe? Yeah. The nigga off Seinfeld? What's the crazy nigga?

Who caught anybody by that nigga? No, we're not using him. Nah. We're not using him. I'm using him. I ain't about the dude from all about the Benjamin's that was the photographer. Who like, no, Francesco.

Nice nails. Frank fucking Chesco. We're getting him to play Joe. Yeah, I'm replacing everybody. I was thinking of trying to get Tracy Morgan to play Nav. I was just thinking, though, I don't know. Either like, either Tracy Morgan or Keenan. Kenan from King of King.

Yeah. What about Corey? From in the house? Mm-hmm. That's a rave, a little brother. Okay, well, no, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Who gonna play Chad?

The nigga off Eve and Steve, what a white boy night? Nees in transform the crazy niggins. Shiley buff. Yeah, you can be shyly buff, Nick. Oh, the little light-skinned nigga from holes. Digging up those holes, digging. Yeah, it's going down though. The movie gonna be crazy.

What it's called? Oh, the 85-saboo? Yeah, yeah. It's gonna be all about how we won the lottery and started a podcast. But it was off the scratch off. It wasn't a lot of money. We don't reveal that until the later on.

We ball out. But then once we find out how much we really won, we really got to take the podcast shit serious because now we don't spend all this money. Like some Martin shit. Remember Martin had an episode, they bought all that shit and won like $4? Exactly.

But it's going to be more than $4, but it just ain't going to be what we thought we had. I got a whole bunch of movies and shit coming out independently. I'm not even making big budget film, so don't even expect it. I got a movie that's coming out that's called the $10,000 movie. It's mostly just me.

But it's from my perspective. You get busy with 10K in the right camera, man. Hey, man. You can do it. No, because nowadays, they got that much, they ain't got that much audio. Okay. Yeah.

We'll talk about this shit off camera, man. We didn't gave them too much shit. What is? Thank VET for the B.E.T. Okay. Hey, we got us to give a big shout out to BET for letting us host to DETAWW. You definitely do.

Come on, BEDEEE. Man. Fucking family right there, man. And we're gonna do that shit again. Yeah, yeah. I hope they better call that. I'm manifesting that shit. Absolutely.

You gotta speak it, bro, bring it to fruition. Then another dope-ass episode. I know we've been seeing it for a minute. But we need it for real this. We gotta go, make it. The big t-shirt wearing that, bids! I'm just playing, a t-shirt ain't that big, but whatever.

We outta here, 85 South show. You need to be at least over your head, man. Ain't for real. We out of here. Hey, y' y'all, niggum, tripping on a pimp-busy. Play us some graduation music, man. What wrong with the carpet?

They might be moving or something. Let's see, let's grab this flick right. Oh, let's do a game dial. I gotta go water the grass. Don't peer yourself. Boy, we don't get old. I can't hold that shit. Pee, boy. I don't have to, I don't went all the spreadway like three times last week. Oh, no.

Oh, yeah. Boy, you're glad to getting weak. Boy, I had to find the gas station. I ain't young no more. Hell no. Appreciate you. Thank you from coming through, man. On your farewell tour.

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