The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Devin Haney in the Trap!
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want to fight me.
There you go.
I like that.
I like that here, red.
There you go.
Speaking of wish, welcome back to the 85th.
Shout to me.
Don't ask him, he won't ask them.
We've been kicking so much ass on the ghetto legends tour.
Come on now.
We figured we should bring a ghetto legend in here
who be kicking people ass.
A young guy.
Younger getting started on this legend.
I'm talking back on.
I mean, he's vicious.
The niggins don't even need no long.
All I'm gonna say is that ain't nobody beat them.
Come on.
Mama don't knock you eyes.
Come on.
They're not 29 and old.
Whenever they see his father, they are like that nigger in the ring with Chico Bean.
So some of your head.
You see that?
Yeah.
That's the one I posted.
Yeah.
I posted that one too.
No, don't got to put on the same.
You're going to be the next opponent.
No, I mean, because they know Chico's not going to spot.
So I get tagged in all the shit.
and all the shit that they want to tell them.
A nigga got that time of her in your head like Martin.
Hell no, man, none of the other thing,
the young legend, Devin Hayne.
Hey, hey, let's go, let's go, let's go.
Whooping ass, man.
Man, before we even get to talking about this boxing shit,
let's talk some San Francisco shit.
Yeah, I mean, I was born in San Francisco,
but, you know, I'm from Oakland.
Yeah, town.
Yeah, town business.
You see how I said that up,
I knew he was about to get into that.
Right, right.
Yeah, so it's town business over here.
Town business.
My mom from San Francisco and my father from Oakland,
so, you know, I still got both, both times.
Yeah, that's what it is.
Yeah, that's coming from Hohenia.
Y'all got some, you know, rich history
with the fighters out of Oakland.
Like, do you feel like that's, you know,
more pressure on you to be one of the greatest
because, you know, you got a couple people
that come out of the town?
Yeah, we got some good fighters,
but I just feel like nobody really, like,
did it out of Oakland.
Like, nobody really carried Oakland like,
like I'm doing,
at such a young age, like putting it on their back.
Of course, we had Andre Ward.
That's what I was just about to say, Andre Ward.
Nobody really, like, took it there.
Bro, what got you in the fight game?
When I was young, I was fighting a lot of school.
My dad took me to the gym one day,
because he, like, you know, I got to fight at school.
He's like, if you want to keep fighting at school,
I'm gonna take you to the gym.
You gonna get beat up.
And every time you keep fighting,
I'm gonna keep bring you back to the gym.
And you gonna get beat up in the gym.
And that shit ain't worked.
Whipped everybody at the chip.
So you have that fight,
Wooping ass and he wanted you to come to the gym,
get your hand wook.
Yeah, exactly.
But it didn't work because, you know,
I whipped some niggas eyes in the gym
and then I stopped fighting in school and shit,
so it didn't work.
Right, you got it up, but he was like,
yeah, I just need somebody ask for it.
Hey, my son's cool, fucking up.
You ain't y'all whoop his ass.
Do, okay, do the best you can't,
I ain't know the niggas like that.
He could, good, no, I'm sorry.
Hold on, what you mean, y'all ain't whoop his ass.
You know how that crazy that product was
for this pop, this little nigger winning.
This little nigger winning.
Damn.
He got to fight.
He got some.
We don't smoke in the weed.
Mom, I'll be getting tested, though.
Mm-hmm.
They just...
Oh, I mean.
We ain't going to smoke.
We're going to wait.
I'm going to roll it, but I ain't going to like...
The gym call.
Can you come get your son?
Yeah, all the way.
Doing that same shit, he'd do it in school.
We can't do shit with him.
You know why you brought him down here?
Now, being a, being a fighter in the game now,
like, it's a lot...
It's different than what it was.
I'm sure, you know, you know, as just a fighter, you
probably a fan of the sport, like, do you think that the intensity of boxing and what boxing
was, let's say, in the 90s or the 80s, with your historian aspect of knowing the sport, do you
think that it'll ever get back to that?
As far as get back to what?
I mean, as far as the intensity, like, the, being the number one sport.
Like, you know, boxing at one point, like, everybody was, all the big fights were made,
everybody who was somebody, I'm talking about the Durans versus the sugar rays versus
the, you know what I mean, all of that type.
With the guys, there's not so much of a business.
all the time where it's like the two best people get in the ring and fight for the sake of the boxing.
Yeah, I mean, it's way more money in the sport of boxing now.
So, of course, it's going to be even more of a business than it was back in the day.
They were fighting for, like, crumbs compared to what we're fighting for these days.
So, of course, it's going to be way more business in it.
But I do feel like the best is fighting the best.
We got more undisputed champions than probably ever before, like, you know, guys who unifying the whole division.
So we may not, like, you know, full.
like respected now but eventually like you from years down the line we're gonna
look back and say like this was a good era of boxing okay so who was the
fight that that you want to see as a fan not just as a you know who would you
want to see I want to see Deonti Wilder and Anthony Joshua and I want to see
and I want to see Bud and Spence yeah that's the one I want to see that's that
that's that I want to see bro and Spence bad but I also want to see Ryan
Garcia and Javante Davis too.
I want to see that too. I want to see you fight one of them too, though.
And I would love to fight either one of them.
Have you ever spied any of them?
Yeah, I sparred. I sparred tank and I sparred Ryan.
So when y'all be sparring, do y'all be trying to figure each other out or y'all
you be going to be going to blow for blow?
Yeah, I mean, we shit, I look at sparring like a fight.
Like, because what you're going to do in sparring, the same thing you're going to do in a fight.
You can't just like turn to switch on and turn it off.
What a nigga doing in practice, he's going to do in the game.
So that's how I feel.
So I take sparring serious.
I'm trying to knock a nigga at all.
Hey.
Who ain't go good for?
You and you're in the sparring?
Me.
Oh!
Uh-oh!
Uh-oh!
Uh-oh!
Uh-oh!
Bonte ain't say nothing about that!
That's why I love boxing,
because both of them, if he was sitting right,
I'd fuck that nigga up,
yeah.
I love that.
But that's something y'all don't talk about
a less ass though, right?
Yeah, because, I mean, after the day,
It's practice, it's sparring.
They say what's done in the gym
supposed to stay in the gym,
but I mean, shit, you asked me,
I got to tell the truth.
I didn't, I didn't tell you.
No, this is how you bring fights.
This is how you do it.
But back on what Chico said,
like, looking at how boxing is now,
it's got like different avenues,
different ranges and shit.
Like, my brother was a big boxing fan.
That's how I knew about boxing,
because he probably bought every fight,
every, he sat in the front,
with his recliner, eating the steak,
watching Sugar Ray, all these niggas.
And it's like, when you see like Jake Pauls and shit
going out in the celebrity boxing,
how do y'all feel about this?
This is, we called exhibition.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I mean, I fuck with Jake Paul.
That ain't gonna fight.
I mean, I'm gonna fight.
But he the first one who took it and was like,
I'm gonna be the main front of the exhibition fights.
And called niggas out and whoop their ass.
Yeah, but now he's fighting for real.
So, I mean, he just ruled, it was a, like, you know, a gateway.
Right.
And, like, he bought, like, way more eyeballs to the sport of boxing.
So you got to respect it.
And he actually could fight.
He actually really taking the shit serious.
So you got to respect it.
I mean, but with that being said, like, the level of competition is always something that's, you know, talked about in boxing.
Like, niggas always say you're fighting cab drivers.
You ain't fighting nobody that really got the skill set to really challenge you.
Do you think that on that side of the game, the exhibition side, even though it's bringing eyeballs,
or you think that it hurts the sport
because guys who got the opportunity
to really turn up and fight him
with the skill set on
and getting those opportunities?
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know.
That's a tough question
because at the end of the day,
he's really not even a real fighter,
for real, for real, like,
I mean, he's making his transition,
so, but he's not really a real fighter.
He talked like one.
I mean, because he's trying to make his transition,
and he marketing himself better
than a lot of other people is,
so you got,
I disrespect what he's doing for real, for real.
What makes you a professional and what makes you not?
Because right now, even with exhibitions, right?
Yeah.
I mean, you're being televised, we whoop it ass,
we make the money like the boxers.
What makes it different?
Yeah, I mean, it's different.
When you actually a pro, the gloves get smaller.
The rules is different.
I mean, with an exhibition, you can make up the rules however you want.
The gloves, they'd be fighting with like 16-ounce gloves.
When it's a pro fight, a real pro fight, you fight with eight-ounce gloves.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit is sanctioned.
That shit is totally different.
Boy.
That's another eight ounces on the glove.
It's down to eight ounces.
Really the gloves.
There's less gloves.
So 16 ounces is more gloves?
Gloves is not to protect the fighters.
It's to really protect your hands.
That's what I'm saying.
So 16 out there's more gloves.
It's more glove.
Them eight-ounce gloves, boy, you ever get hit with one of them, you'd be like,
and there's nothing's in that glove.
You don't feel like a fist.
This man, it hurt it so bad.
That's what the eight-ons of gloves?
That's where retired me, nigga.
You could hear the gloves like when you went out.
Bigger, miss you hear that shit.
Like, you could hear that shit going across.
That shit.
Man, boy.
I thought the bigger the gloves, the harder than it.
I mean, I know the smaller you get,
you might be just punch a nigger, but.
Nah, yeah, nah.
Yeah.
I thought with a glove glove, man, I never forget, bro.
We was fighting.
I was, well, I really started because the nigger was
picked the star and shit with my little nephew.
And he went from my neighborhood.
So I was like, all, nigger, you gonna
put these gloves on, and I'm gonna punch your ass.
And he was laughing like, huh, huh.
I'm like, I'm like, I'm putting the gloves on.
I'm like, nigga, if you don't put them on,
I'm just gonna punch your ass anyway.
So when I put him on, I started walking towards that,
he was like, all right, we put them on right.
I'm beating him, I'm beating him.
Beep, beep, beep, poop, pooh.
I don't know where this motherfucker came.
I don't know where this right hand came, but it came.
When this nigger hit me, all I heard were,
and the whole neighborhood was like, ooh.
But he over here.
You feel what I'm saying?
I'm like, I need to be looking this way, you feel me?
So I knew from a fist and a glove
that was too different.
Now I got hit with a fist,
but that was the harder that I ever got hit in my life
with a glove.
Yeah.
And it was almost-
Because you can just get more protection
so you could really just hit a nigga
as hard as you want
because you can't worry about really hurting your hands
and your head.
But you still can.
You know, I've learned just in the way,
just, you know, I got a boxing shit in my basement, man.
And it's like,
I've learned just in hitting a heavy bag specifically with the gloves on your wrist is really where the pain come in
because you got to know how to hit that bag right and it's like you know how you hide however you
ball your fists and however you hold your hands because you could be your knuckles could be hurting your wrist could be hurting your thumb could be hurting right have you ever had any of those issues because you know
floyd always always yeah always yeah always mom after my hand after my last time my whole hand was swollen like that just they just come with it you get used to it though yeah yeah you just
Get used to it.
Do they have anything like in fight that kind of helps, you know, anything that's, that you're dead?
I mean, nah.
I mean, I'm just saying, I don't know, you know.
When you put handwraps on, like, ham wraps, gloves, that's it.
Ain't anything you can do about it.
Once you start hurting, you got to just keep punching them sheds go numb.
They got to cut them bitches off anywhere, so there ain't no getting in there.
Who you watch?
Like, who is shied?
There's so many boxes.
I'm a sugar ray fan.
Yeah, I'm a sugar ray, too.
At me, I feel like I'm just sugar ray all day, every day.
day, every day. So it's like, ooh, I saw him hit a motherfucker
seven six times in a row, and he didn't get hit. Yeah. For real.
The motherfucking counted. Yeah. He was smooth.
He was one of my favorite. I like Roy Jones. Roy Jones.
Oh, man.
Roe was a monster. Yeah.
Man, that broke my heart one, Roy, not.
Or you gotta watch fucking Sugar Ray Robinson fight.
That's the great stuff. They just recently put a lot of his old fight.
This motherfucker fucking was fighting with the cab Callaway
swoop, smoo-smoo-knit-a-knit. He was whooping his ass and swooping his shit
out the way at the same time.
And the thing about Sugar Ray Robinson is like 60
in his fights was before they had cameras,
the film in his fights.
Did he get hit nine from Sugar Ray Robinson?
He was fighting three times a week.
Did he get hit nine from Sugar Ray?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.
And I know for me, if you was a Roy Jones fan,
you know, you younger, but I remember when this shit happened,
man, it wasn't when he lost the Tava that broke my heart.
When that thing got knocked out by Glenn Johnson
with them white gloves on, man, I thought Roy died.
I thought Roy.
That was towards the head.
That's what stayed in the hospital all weekend.
I was scared.
That she hurt me in the ring, my nigga.
I was hurt because they hit him with the smelling salts and he still ain't get up.
I'm like, oh, this nigga then killed Roy.
That shit hurt.
That was towards the end, though.
No, that was right after Tavel.
Rose.
Oh, yeah.
You don't watch.
Razor Reddy.
Nah.
That motherfucker.
Razor Ruddick?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was a hell of a name.
I love all them, but I don't know.
That's something about Floyd.
Floyd.
The greatest.
That is just different, bro.
That thing is just different.
He mastered it.
He's like master.
Do you have a favorite Floyd fight?
Um.
I like the early ones.
It's a type for me, it's two different times.
The only I love all his fights, like just the art, just the hit and not get hit.
Like Floyd is Shane Mosulner.
That boy, he got caught on that Shane.
Yeah, because he got caught and then he just started.
Early too.
Yeah.
It's only two people who probably really had a chance with him though.
Who's the other people who probably really had a chance with him though?
I don't think.
You don't think Pac, I think, you know why I think Pat had a chance?
No, you want to know.
Zab gave a problem.
Yeah, Zab gave him problem.
But you want to know why I think Pat gave Flood a problem because that was the most
Floyd has been hit body-wise.
He was hitting him like, he was giving him to him, but you got to understand.
Every shot count, even if it's a block, you still hit my hand, you still hit my shoulder.
I don't think he was hitting him a lot.
Pat, I don't think he really do nothing with.
Floyd, like, I feel like he got way, like De LaHoya did more with Floyd than
yeah, yeah.
See, y'all eyes different, y'all see more than what we see to the average person, it's
like, bap, pop, pop, I just hit you three times, but you're like, nigga, you ain't hit him.
Floyd, right, right, right, right.
One of the Floyd most beautiful shows was him and Arturo Gotti, man.
What he did, oh my, my, that's the fight I studied before my last fight was him
Arturo Gotti.
Man, the way he did, I mean, I'm talking about, it was crazy, man, we was watching,
me and my cousin always used to watch fights for my uncle and shit.
And after that fight, my uncle said, man, it's two,
things you never do. You never spit in the wind because that shit gonna blow right back in your
face and you never bet against Floyd Mayweather. And that was the realest shit ever because
that nigger is just like he just so brilliant in the ring just as the defense is the
hardest part of boxing because to hit a motherfucker every time you throw a punch you open to get
hit. So when you throw a punch and you don't get hit after you throw a punch and then you throw
three four and don't get hit it's like this nigga is not a human man. Like the shit Floyd
say when he come back to the corn. I don't have shit to do.
with boxing.
Nick, come on.
Yeah, we're going to the club after this.
Dude, the bitch is right there.
The bitch is right there.
You don't be catching that shit?
All the way.
They don't be giving a damn, bro.
Yeah, the hoses right here.
Who's right?
All right, man.
Hey, Jay Waird is 6 at 8 o'clock p.m.
Guess where I'm gonna be?
In North Oak Virginia, at the Harrison Opera House.
That's right.
Me.
At the end of the day, the tours come to your city.
Make sure you get those tickets and come fuck with your boy,
because you know, I talk to that type of shit
people like this.
Pull up on.
You watched that fight before this?
What'd you pull from that fight?
Man, just, uh-huh.
He was just letting his hands go.
Like, he didn't give a fuck about nothing Arturo or God.
He had no respect for him.
He just was taking it too.
Oh, my God, he hit that name with a six piece
when he hit him to the body around the back.
Wow, that nigg was like, oh, stop it.
But she, this is one thing I like about Florida, right?
In his earliest stages, he was knocking niggas out.
And then he was like, you know what?
Alright, damn the knockout, I need to steady the game.
He understood, it's mathematics.
He's like, okay, I ain't, the knockout is cool.
That can make win you around, but guess what?
If I throw more punches and land, it's all about the school card.
You threw 30, I threw 60, but I landed more.
I won.
That's it.
That's it.
It don't even care.
I won.
His uncle and his daddy, both of them was professional fighters, too.
So when you grow with people who understand the game, and that's what I want to ask you about now, just having your father.
in your corner how much do you think of an advantage do you think that give you having your
dad in your corner it gives me a huge advantage because my dad been there since day one since my
first day in the gym so everything i learned my dad been there through through every step of
the way so he know what i know basically because he learned the shit he was there when when i learned
the shit so so he know like it's like like he know what i got in a toolbox he know like a video
game he know he he he know my moves he know what i what i can do what's the one shit he's
tell you the most. Man, he telling me so much shit.
The most of that you know he gonna say.
Leave them hoes alone, son.
Now I'm talking about you.
He told you about that.
He's been leading business alone, son.
Man, my dad, when I say we studied the jab for so long, like, and defense, like, I remember
like my dad, he used to set up, like, rocks outside the house, and I used to have to spar
niggas with no head gear, and I couldn't throw no punches, and I had to just do work on all
defense. Like I couldn't throw everything
was deep and they could do as anything that they wanted.
So they used to be tearing the nigga up. I used to have to just take it.
Take it. I used to just be hot, mad,
going to house mad as fuck.
But I mean, it just made my defense so good. Then
he started letting me do my jab. Just my jab. One thing
I can do was my jab. So I started working the jab.
That's how my jab got so nice.
Because it was the only one he would let you throw?
The only one he let me throw. Oh, so you had to make that bitch
He used to put big gloves on me. So I had these big ass gloves
I can, my shit coming slow.
My shit, they, they shit coming fast.
They slip in my shit, pop, pop, pop, pop.
I'm mad.
But it made my jab.
Yeah.
I feel like I got the best jab in my husband.
And it gave you a level of composure in the ring
because not getting mad in a fight is very, very important.
Like, keeping your composure, even if you, you know, I think that's something that he took.
Because if you get hit with a big shot, that's one shot.
You got to, you know what I'm saying?
Stay relaxing.
So what's the biggest shot you think you'd ever got hit with?
The biggest.
When I fought a dude name with Jorge Lenore, is he, like I said.
He hit me.
Boom.
I didn't even feel like he could punch hard into that, to that time where he hit me.
I didn't even see this shit.
He...
Sound like me, my boy.
Yeah.
Ha!
I catch you, baby!
So what is the one you never seen?
He was looking at his own back.
So what, so what?
Do you see that?
No cap.
So yeah, he hit me.
I had to hold on.
I had to tie his ass up.
And what's the biggest shots you think you didn't ever hit a motherfucker with?
Yeah.
I damn there thought I killed him, hitting him on the overhand right.
And I got knocked out of the year for that one because I hate that nigga so hard.
Really?
Yeah.
Damn.
Who?
I was a dude named Antonio Moran.
Damn.
Look it up.
So how do you go pro?
Because I would think about going pro.
I went to the locker room after the fight.
His face was like that.
Nigger had a stack of money on this shit.
He was a friend for him.
Mr. Raine in his neck.
His own face fat.
You don't understand, like, that's the type of stuff that we got to go through to feed our families.
Right.
So even with the amateur, like, anybody can be an amateur.
That means you just trying to fight.
What makes you pro?
Like, how do you get qualified for pro?
See, that's the thing about boxing.
We don't got to go through, like, a league or we don't got to go through nothing.
Like, any, you can be pro right now.
I heard, niggas just signed up and be like, you're talking about you do that?
Yeah, I signed over night night.
You don't need fight.
Okay.
They got some fights on Instagram.
one dude, he was like, yeah, I know you.
I got hit at a look.
And what, get your ass on.
This man came not to miss.
So you can just sign up, right?
You mean you to know the dead man.
Anybody can turn pro.
That's the only thing about boxing.
Anybody can turn pro.
But that means you can't fight on the street no more.
That's not true.
Because your hands are not weapon.
That's not true.
Yeah, that's a myth.
That's a myth.
That's a myth.
That's a myth.
I thought if you were a professional fighter
and you punch a thing that,
you can go to you.
No, you know.
That was motherfuckers that couldn't fight trying to lie about my hands are registered weapons
if I get...
Baa!
Shut up!
Shut up!
That was a nigga camping.
You can't register your hands, man.
That's for all that niggas who can't fight for real, man.
Be acting like he boxing, so I go sign up at a boxing gym and be like, oh, now I can't fight because my hands are registered.
Right.
Shut up.
Get slapped.
You go to any station and say, yeah, I want to register my hands.
Like, the fuck out of here, nigger.
There's nobody.
I just want to tell everybody who watching this shit
don't ever find a nigga that box ever in your life.
Please get your ass on.
It's not.
It's not.
My uncle got beat up by a nigga that box.
No.
They called out.
They called my dad.
They called my dad.
They're like, you gotta come down here.
My uncle in the background, like, yeah, man.
This nigga hit me with a bat.
And we go down now, go to the project and shit.
They were like, nah, that he ain't hit your brother no bad.
That nigga whooped your brother.
No.
No.
No.
This thing, all in the ICU and shit.
Yeah, it's thorough.
Because the motherfucker hitting you so many different ways.
They got it stuck on, what that one hit me with.
That nigga just had to say what it felt like.
Yeah.
You get me with a truck.
Y'all pull up?
The nigga push me in track.
Yeah.
You threw me on seven to buy.
I know I got hitting the kidneys.
He said that shit.
You're shocked me, that.
That pain, that cup.
When you get hit the, it's more,
if you get hit the face, you get hit the face,
but that body.
That body.
You're right.
Oh, Jesus Christ.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
So what is this?
I ain't gonna lie.
A nigga.
What do you hit me in the kidneys?
Yeah.
Kidney.
Oh, the boy it said.
Yeah.
Ryan Williams, say to you, my name.
But they're not getting out.
That nigga hit me in my pities and made me pee on myself.
Yeah.
Yeah, you hit you a lot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it was in a fight.
We was boxing.
But yes, sir.
Did you pee it then or you peed on the way?
Immediately.
Immediately, there's no, there's no, there's no pause in the piss.
What?
It comes immediately.
So soon as you got to hit, you like, who, picky it out.
I didn't say that, nothing, nigger.
I'm talking about, man, I, like, then we're fighting, and I threw it a miss to hit me right here, boo.
Pee-pee.
Down the leg.
On the boot, everything, I'm just on that bitch.
Huh.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.
No.
He felt so bad.
He was like, bro, you good?
Oh.
Oh.
Oh.
You don't want to never make that noise.
man you ever hear a nigga make that noise that uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-huh you peep in this is
no everything's gone you're on your way to see the king like you said you piss blood if you get hit
too old yeah hell yeah you be pissed that's fun them you get hit so hard your body's immediate
response is to piss yeah so you get in no other circumstance than your body chain I'm sure if I
had the shit that would it came too that's what I'm saying that body different man
the chin you get hitting the chain you go to sleep or you're
you get dropped, but that body,
when you sit a nigga hitting the body,
that's my motherfuckers laugh at.
If you street body, you hit a nigga
and the body, it's over with.
It's over with.
How many niggas, average niggas,
you know, just going home and doing some sit-ups
before they go to sit or something?
Right, right.
You need a body plur.
You want to explode.
All you care about at the head,
you're like, yeah, you're trying to hit me in the head,
because I'm going to the stomach,
ugh.
I'm talking about, yeah, the noise that you are
a nigga, it's going to be that.
You're gonna piss, buddy.
You ever had the wind knocked out you?
Nigger, that's why I was
I got asthma.
You caught asthma, nigga out of the niggins.
I was dying.
Niggas go to flow like, ain't a row too.
I'm like, ooh.
You're tripping.
Yes.
You ever had to win knocked out you though?
Hell yeah.
Man, it ended like in sparring though.
Sparring fights.
For real, how you work through that,
to help me, understand how you work through it?
You got to stay relaxed.
You got to breathe.
What you mean, relax me?
You can't breathe.
How you can breathe?
No, you can breathe.
No, you can breathe.
You can breathe.
You can breathe.
Can't be relaxed.
What happened was all of the air got knocked out of you, niggins.
You're going to get that air back.
You need to breathe.
And he's coming back trying to hit you again.
I would have told that nigga, wait.
Let me breathe.
Yeah, he absolutely right.
You can breathe.
That shit just hurt.
Like a motherfucker.
Like all your air is like Sonic.
When the nigger knock all the rings out of you?
So what did that mean?
Like when they add get knocked out of you,
like your lungs trying to grasp.
No, my mother.
Literally that, my nigger.
Your air.
I got hit.
Like, I got hit, like, big nigger.
He was slow, too, but he hit me.
Boom!
And I don't know why he was playing football with us,
but he was probably like 15 and we were like 12.
He hit me.
Boom, nigger, air.
Gone.
I'm just on the ground, shoulder pads, helmet.
They like, look a little june.
I'm like, nigger, I'm dying.
He knocked all the air out.
Out of it.
When we were doing football, the coach would pick you up real fast.
He would grab you by your shit and pick you up.
Yeah, I think the coach did that,
but I fell back down.
Yeah, like he tried to get your shit back in.
He was like, get up.
I was like, nigger, stop.
There is God.
If you want to see a fight that, you know,
Bernard Hopkins and Delaware,
when he hit Delaware ass in the body,
that nigga Delaware was like,
hey, hey, hey, I was like,
it's not like you're casting a spell.
It was over with.
That body shot, man, that's one of the most
treacherous shots you can catch somebody with.
Like, so do you, I see Florida a lot,
and doing the exercise, we're hanging off the edge of the,
and is that for...
Yeah, that's for your neck.
It worked your neck out to where like,
you know, like, like knockouts be happening
when, like, it'd be like the snap back,
where you get punched and then, like,
you know, that'll fuck your equilibrium,
your whole shit up.
Or if you get hit with an uppercut,
snap your neck back, so you work your neck to keep it strong.
So it's really,
the comeback is what's knock you out.
It's not the actual punch.
That's why when you get hit, he'd be like,
okay okay so like what's what do you think as a box is is the most if you can put in
you know make a list of the most important exercises or training to do as a boxer what
do you think those are I'll put this nigga no plan together pretty I would just say
sparring obviously that's not his own way and out his own self I know the sport man but I just want to get the
perspective of somebody at that level I would just say sparring obviously that
like the most you can't beat that because that's just more situation and everything like that's
that's damn near like a fight so that i feel like that's like the most important but um shit just
everything because you you want to just dot your eyes and cross your teens you don't never want to be
like overly prepared for you know do a trillion sit-ups but you ain't got no endurance you got to you
got to do your road work you got to do your sit-ups you got to do you got to do your strength
strength of conditioning training you gotta do all that shit you can't go to fuck up
we're prepared to throw up then you throw it all that shit up yeah y'all nondstop a real street
fight nigga me time about three minutes no you fought that man for 30 seconds my boy and be tired
and be tired for two weeks bro when we did that shit on wild and out when we was wrestling my
nigga I was so tired I had to sit down hi yeah I'm done so I ain't no way in the world
No, their boxing workouts, them three minutes
are just throwing punches and moving around.
And they keep on.
You want to know how long a minute it is, fight a nigga, man.
So when do you think that your win is now starting to fuck with you once?
What round do you start to fill it?
Honestly, my guys are saying crazy.
Like, I don't get tired.
Like, my team, I don't get tired.
Like, it's just something I just don't do.
When I fight, I don't get tired.
Like, I always feel like I can go like five more rounds.
You think you could afford to 15 round.
Yeah.
What god the niggas was doing that was Jack Johnson and them niggas was fighting with others.
They were fighting with the other men.
Those niggas that hold their shit like this, nigga.
Even Ali, Ali, is fighting 15 rounds.
Yeah.
Were the round shorter or were they still?
Like three minutes, three minutes.
Three minutes?
Three minutes.
Now we do, yeah, now we do, yeah, now we do three, two, two, a minute rounds.
Do you ever go down to ten?
Would you ever go back down to ten rounds or is it in any scenario?
No.
big fights and championship fights is all 12.
So once you go 12, it's, you know.
12 rounds?
Yeah, okay, okay.
What's your favorite city to fight in there?
You got one?
Vegas.
Vegas.
Yeah, man, Vegas.
Can't be there.
You man.
I got to catch a fight.
I got to get my friend Lucas, man.
I got to come out there.
That's one of my goals.
That's one of my goals to go to a fight, man.
My next fight, man, y'all got to come again.
What?
Hey, yeah.
Don't understand.
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I went to go see Tim, you know Tavin?
Yeah, it's my boy, man.
Yeah, I got a car.
Where at?
I forgot.
I don't know.
I flew there.
Yeah, I was there too.
You were there?
The one he fucking lost, though.
I was mad.
Because they were saying that he was going to be the next content of the fight one take after that.
What's crazy?
The dude that he lost to, I fought that dude next.
Really?
And beat him.
Whooped his day.
Be like that sometimes, man.
So what was your first fight in Vegas?
What's the first big fight you had in Vegas?
I fought, when I was in my third fight, I fought in Vegas.
In the third fight, I fought in Vegas, I fought on the Pachiel versus Bradley Undercard.
The first Pachial Bradley?
Yeah, no, the, well, they fought three times?
Yeah, they fought three times.
Yeah, on the third time, the third time.
Okay.
And then I headlined in Vegas, like four fights ago, three fights ago.
So explain the difference between being on the undercard and being the headliner, what's that experience?
It's just different.
I mean, it's just like a different.
Wait longer, too.
Yeah, you wait longer.
You just like, everybody there to see you.
So I was fighting in the daytime when I was fighting on an undercar.
It was like fucking 4 p.m.
Right, right.
So do the people be there?
I mean, people, they'd be there.
Shit, barely.
Like, my only people who was in there was like my family, like, really, like,
there wasn't nobody in there.
It was a whole empty arena.
And then when I fought, it was filled up.
When I was, when I headlined, it was filled up, and it was off with me.
Are you 23?
How long you've been a professional fighter?
Yeah, damn.
I think I've been prone now.
It was like seven years.
That's great.
You've been pro.
You had the same love.
You was pro at 16?
17, 17.
17.
Yeah, you still got the same love.
What?
Of course.
Like, you know, after you, like, you chase the dream so long then you, like, you're living in now.
See, I love it more because, like, now I'm, like, receiving the fruits of it.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
I was doing this shit for free for so long, like, doing it for nothing.
You know what I'm saying?
Waiting for me to finally, you know, receive, like, some money.
Like, I didn't start making money until my 19th fight.
Before that, I was, if I was fighting for free, just, like, trusting in the process on some independent
shit so now it's like damn this shit finally paying off like I made it change it was
going on in Mexico I mean because yeah I was fighting I was fighting in Mexico did
like all the way to like my 19 fight well often no but majority time that after my
19 fight I didn't go back to Mexico why did you go down there just to just because
I was so young I couldn't fight in the US they wouldn't they wouldn't grant me a
boxing license because I was 17 years old so they didn't want to like you know
me to get hurt and then me sue them and like come on Mexico let me
Let me come over there.
You was fighting grown men in Mexico.
Yeah, I was fighting grown men with 40, 50 fights.
These niggins have in the 20 rounds hitting cigarettes and shit in 40, 50.
The young boy's good, man.
I can't do much with him.
How do you smoking a cigarette in boxing for him?
A young boy good man.
So I had a head, so you 17 find a nigga that's grown?
Yeah, yeah, well 17 fighting grown eyes.
I'm grown men is in the ring with a kid.
I'm talking about to knock your ass.
You know what that is.
No, you're not. No, you're not.
You know, confidence when you're 17 and you beating the shit out grown man.
What?
Niggie don't give a fuck.
What a dick is saying to you?
Pay your bills.
Fuck you, sir.
Respectfully disrespectful.
Fuck you, sir.
That's hilarious.
Okay, I got to ask you questions.
I always ask everybody we got.
Now, y'all know you little boxer.
What is a underlying talent that you really like to do?
You'll be surprised.
Shit, shit, you mean going on,
you can't wait to take the gloves,
or I'll be like,
can't wait to plant these flowers,
and like, what the fuck?
Yeah, I don't know, that's crazy.
Nica love tulips.
I don't know, I gotta think about that one.
I can't really say, right?
So it's just boss is everything.
That's just your shit.
Yeah, I can't say I got like another talent.
Like literally, I've been doing that shit
since he was nine, man.
Like, literally, I've, seven since I was seven.
Seven.
Like, when I say, like, I really was, like,
a kid that really, like, I ain't.
Golfed yourself in the sport.
Since the seventh grade,
I dropped out in the seven grade.
I dropped out in the seventh grade to box.
Like, I literally-
You dropped out of school in the seventh grade to box?
Yeah, because, like, I knew what I wanted to do.
I put my aunts.
It was no like, fuck the grades, nigger.
Come on, we're going to Mexico.
Let's do it.
We need the shit out some niggas.
Come on, baby.
The rest of the motherfuckers and get their grades,
right?
We're going to beat the dog shit out of the baby.
It wasn't like nothing.
Like, this is like something that I knew.
Like, I had to make it.
I was going to make it.
Like, I really trusted in my talent.
So, like, it's really, like,
All I know, for real.
So the highest education you got is seven grade.
That ain't the limit on his education.
I was doing, I was doing it.
That's the limited with the school.
I mean, I don't want to make sure
because my boy is in the business,
so I don't want to, I want to make sure he getting all his money.
No, for sure, but just because, well, school don't,
you don't learn business in school, right.
To understand, I knew what I wanted to do,
so I knew, I knew what I had to learn to be successful
and what I wanted to do.
I don't need to go learn about some fucking geology,
some shit down.
Why I need to learn that for?
That ain't know.
Don't know.
Stop.
Stop.
I don't know that shit even.
Stupid nigga just clap like.
Yeah, man.
That's what I'm saying.
All those shit evil, bro.
But the difference is he learned about geography
because he goes all around the goddamn globe with that boxing shit.
So he's going to know more geography than your ass could ever learn.
Then we just got on his ass for not finishing school and taking it seriously.
He finished though.
That's my young nigga, he's all right.
Yeah, no, sir.
So I knew what I had to learn to be successful in this.
Right.
Man, that's important, man.
So moving forward, like, what do you see?
Do you have a goal, like, that you want to see yourself?
Is it like an ultimate goal within the sport that you want for yourself, even at 23?
Yeah, I mean, I want to be a legend in the sport.
I want to be an all-time great, you know what I'm saying?
So I want my name to be remembered, you know, longer than I ever will.
So, I mean, that's what I'm-
You made a hell of a name for yourself in you.
He'll still be in short amount of time.
Please.
You can't get up.
Oh, Eaddy.
We got seven more years, kicking in.
Like, no cash.
Sometimes you gotta check your own height,
you definitely got one.
Like, your name comes up.
Thank you.
One of the top contenders.
When they got the different, like, they got the,
what are the, the IBF?
WBA, WBA, WBC.
They got all that shit out of it.
Now, when you are a champion in all those,
what's the difference between being a champion in one
and then being the under,
disputed like in all the unit so like so like you meet a champion one or it could be
unified is like where you'd be having like two right three but when you undisputed you got
everything you got all the belts like if anybody want to be a champion they got to go through
you there's a time time on time they got to go through you as in the person who has the all the
bells you got all the right you got to beat me yeah if you're to be a champion in my weight
you got to go through me that question like you got you got you're the undisputed champ
Let's say you're the undisputed, or let's say somebody else is the undisputed champ, and you beat them.
Does that make you now the undisputed champ?
You take all his buildings.
So you were meeting to get all the belts.
Yes, but it's very rare that you actually could fight one person for all the belts.
Normally you've got to pick up a belt here, pick up a belt there.
Right.
Pick up two belts there.
That's how you become a good.
I'm trying to think how many people have been undisputed except Mike Tyson.
It's been eight.
Eighth.
I was eighth.
I was eighth, yeah.
You was eight?
I think Agent Brano won two.
Uh-huh.
That edge of Bronon one, too.
He not, not all of them?
No.
No.
It's only that eight in the history of the sport.
It's only been eight in the history of the sport.
I think, I know Mike Tyson was understuted.
That's, that's fucked up.
Devin Haney was undisputed.
Floyd was understuted.
Floyd was never undisputed?
What belt didn't even, what he was?
I mean, yeah, he had, you know, a lot of different belts at one time,
but he never had all the belts in the weight class.
Zab, Zab, Zab was underpute.
What makes you undisputed?
Evan Hall of the belts in your weight class.
All four of them.
All four of them.
All four.
All four, yeah, okay.
So, god damn it, you got all four these belts.
So what if I just got one?
I can't be the champion in one?
No, no, no, no, you're the champion in three.
But you're not undisputed.
You're just unified.
In order for you to be the undisputed,
you got to fight the undisputed.
No, no, no, no, you gotta have all four.
No matter, no, if you pick a one here,
say you fight one, him for one, right,
him for one, me for one, and him for the last one.
I'm gonna beat your ass, you ain't getting money.
Okay, but what if he got one?
No, the bell on the land,
I'm fighting dirty,
But look, but what if he got one,
but he want to fight you to be undisputed?
Can he?
You're not understanding the concept.
So if I got three, he got one?
Yeah.
So if you got three, you got to beat him
and get all of them and then you understand.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, okay.
That's the only way you can be on the dispute.
You gotta get all.
You gotta get all.
You gotta have one.
Yeah, so whoever got them.
It could be four niggas that got the four belts
or it can beat one nigga.
Now, I see two motherfuckers would be at the same time.
Can that happen?
Not the same way, class.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but like...
They got, like, little minor titles, but actually the champ, no.
Okay.
And then you got, that's how motherfuckers be, you know, getting ducked.
Like, a nigga would duck you, like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, he's somebody that has been ducked a lot in this kid.
A lot of motherfuckers ducked them.
You know what, too.
You know what I mean?
He's coming to get it.
He's coming to get it.
Oh, this nigga trying to be undisputed.
Oh, this nigga trying to be undisputed.
Some motherfuckers are turn and fight down just so you won't get all the bills.
No, for sure.
Yeah.
Do you ever go into a fight?
Like, has it ever been a fight that you went into?
Like, I own this one, this one gonna be won.
I gotta make sure that I'm right on this particular one.
If you had that opponent yet?
I would say my first fight when I went to Australia
to fight for undisputed, I just was fight far away from home.
They wasn't letting my dad come in, he was my coach.
It was just like.
What, they were fucking with him?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he made it right at the end.
Yep, yep, they was fucking with him.
The customs and whatever, the government wasn't letting them in.
So it just was like, everything was just like fucked up.
It was like, damn, like, is this the right decision?
Like, should I have to go without my team,
but my cut man wasn't there.
But I was like, fuck it.
You went out of by yourself and came home with it.
Came home with it.
Fuck you're talking about.
Y'all.
Drop me off with you, they leave me now.
When they try to disrupt your process,
you got to who up everybody's and be like,
who else want to fight while I'm over here?
Right.
And why I'm by myself.
Don't talk shit when I get on this play.
Don't talk shit when I get on this motherfucker.
Don't say shit when I get on this play.
After the fight, I would have been talking shit like booze.
And I got my shirt off like my dad.
Fuck, I'm talking about it.
I haven't been to fucking about it before I started talking shit.
It wasn't about a, you know, I was.
Yeah, Australia.
Yeah, it's different.
Right.
What you say, mate?
Nothing.
Let's put another nigger on the ball, babe.
Buggin, I'd cry it out.
You can look at your ass, dude.
Fuck around tell you to a blooming onion over that motherfucker.
People are straight, we're gonna watch this shit and be like,
Not like that.
It's not like it, Mike.
It was cool, though.
It was cool, but I really had a good time over there in Australia.
That's why I really went back twice.
Yeah, them Australian holes here different.
I ain't hit one yet.
I heard they love a nigga, though.
I don't see him.
I didn't have been a boy.
Oh, Lord.
You've been Australian.
I don't have been.
I had the pussy in America.
Really?
Yeah.
You brought the pussy here?
You brought the pussy here, Mike.
You should have seen her.
You should have seen her.
You should have seen her.
You're so big.
Did you see you see you?
Did you see it?
It was round, cranky, Mike.
It was like wrestling the crook.
And then, like, just put it down.
You put it down?
Put it down.
I was all in a kangaroo patch, you know what I mean?
Yeah.
Fuckin' hey, Mike.
That nigga, that's too.
You know, you just put out a beautiful showing, man.
You know, I watched the fight.
You know what I mean?
You did the shit in the fight.
I mean, the whole fight.
So what do you want to do next?
Is anybody you got on the,
in the radar or...
We're gonna go see what Loma Chinko are talking about.
Oh, yeah.
You know, he got a fight coming up.
Okay.
And we're gonna go watch him.
And, uh...
I tell hoodholt that's my nickname.
Oh.
Lomanchinco.
Yeah, it was a time when they was looking at him like he was the greatest shit ever.
Yeah, it was looking at him like that.
But what happened?
It changed.
She changed.
It changed.
Real quick.
Real quick.
You know what I mean?
He's not the guy anymore.
Yeah, right.
But, you know, I will show him that, you know,
if we make the fight happen that he's not that guy anymore,
that his time came and, yeah.
Yeah.
My man.
We talked about boxing.
I want to give a shout out to Clarissa Schill.
She just won.
Oh, yeah.
She did that shit.
She got a lot of show when we were,
Grand Rapids?
Grand Rapids, yeah.
She comes to talk with us.
Hey, listen, uh,
one of the greatest knockouts you'll ever see is Ann Wolf
when she knocked out that big white woman
with them American Shillard.
Shorts on.
Woo!
You know you get your asswood when your shit ain't even
braided on me.
Knocked the braid out,
Nick.
But you haven't seen that Ann Wolf knockout?
Yes, I did.
Oh, my God.
I'm trying to forget it,
but y'all had brought it right back to me.
No cap.
You're just gracious, man.
And as a fan of the sport,
who is somebody that you, like,
felt like had a bunch of potential
that didn't get to where you felt like
they could have been?
I feel like AB, like, A.B.
Like, A.B. had crazy potential.
Like, he was the next fucking, like, big thing.
Next Floyd.
That's what they was telling him to be, yeah.
A, B, like, he could have made so much money in the sport or boxing, but, I mean, he let
the outside shit, you know, get to him.
But hopefully he could bounce back.
That's my nigga too, man.
I want the best for him, too.
Yeah, I want him to come back.
I message him all the time, like, please, man, get back on your shit.
You deserve it be up here at the top.
Hey, you already know what it is, man.
I'm going back home, y'all.
Hey, man, ATL.
Twice.
28, 29.
Where we at?
What?
Wake Way Center Arena at College Park.
College Park.
College Park, Atlanta.
You know, they was...
Color Park, Color Park.
Returner to Get Old Legends.
We're going to discuss all that.
We're going to discuss what's real Atlanta and what...
Come on, man.
You know, Atlanta, you know, all that.
I can't wait.
I can't wait to tell the nigger.
You did.
You did.
You know, we're turning to get old legends.
The Unfinished Business Tour.
We're back in the 8.
85Southshow.com.
That's www.
www.
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Right now.
Atlanta.
We are coming.
and 20-9th is after Christmas so you can wear all your new shit, your gifts.
Going out with a bang.
Going out with a bank.
We're bringing the New Year in where it all began, you know what I mean?
From Smith's old bar to the Gateway Center Arena and College Park.
So make sure you get your ticket.
And Thursday.
On Thursday.
Not playing.
Hey, you're gonna be all work them days anyway because it's almost New Year so you know how you save.
In your Christmas check.
Come on see.
Spend that Christmas money, nigger.
You already know.
Get it out the envelope.
Out the car.
Buy a ticket.
No cap.
That's what it is.
Get the app too.
And two days.
We're doing two days.
So if you missed the first day, you're going to miss the second one.
Right.
Oh, you're going to hear, bad.
Get on legendary.
Collie Paul.
ATE.
Booty, booty, booty, booty, brook.
Yeah.
Hey, yeah.
Yeah.
Andre Ward retired when he did, man.
I was like, damn, Slim.
Like, why are you, I mean, you never know.
Yeah, I wanted to see Andre Ward, you know what I'm saying,
do a little bit more.
Yeah, I wanted to see him fight some more, too.
But he still had a lot laughing in the tank.
But you never know what he never know.
he was going through like you know i'm saying we ain't in there taking a punches for him so
right exactly what how he's feeling or what's what's going on so you came knocking for retiring
what's the uh what's the guy um who got hit and he ended up being like paralyzed he was he was a
dark shit what's the name he was a great contender i'm talking about what's the name what was
it's on youtube like he was a great contender but he got hit at the end of the fight and
he fell yeah he didn't like preacher or something preacher like do that ever occurred
You know how dangerous the sport is every time you go into the ring?
No, I don't really think about that, to be honest.
I know how I know how dangerous it is, but shit, I've been doing it for so long.
That's all I know.
So I'd rather, you know what I'm saying?
Some shit go bad.
I'd rather be doing it something that I love than.
Oh shit.
Right, right.
Because they could be out with the club.
If something happened, they could be out fucking around, something happened.
But it's something I truly, truly love to do.
So something going to happen, at least something.
Doing the way you're doing what you love.
I got to ask this because everybody want to know, man.
It takes a lot of discipline to do this shit.
How you stay off the pussy.
I mean, yeah.
You got to be strong in the ring.
That shit to make it loose legs.
Shit.
Oh, I get the pussy back.
So, so, so, let you see.
All right.
Knick.
That's why that nigga and knock him out there.
No, that's what I have to get punched.
They're going to pluck your head and they fucking hot.
No sleep.
So you about, you believe.
that you're bad, bad, that's real.
For sure, no, that's not.
No, you can't get no person for it.
Boy, it's, like, a lot of people say some mental things,
but I believe that, you know, I feel the difference
when I go fuck and go train or go spar or whatever,
then when I don't.
I bet you do, this man.
One second, bro.
Because you're probably like, what I'm mad about.
Why am I fighting?
I just got me buzzing.
I don't care.
How can you be angry, right out of the pussy?
Boom, bitch.
No care.
I just feel that shit in my legs.
Like, you know, I feel like my legs do be getting like a little weaker.
So, you know, I do sacrifice and, you know, be disciplined.
So what's the strong?
Yeah, I had this shit lined up right after the fight.
In the locker room.
What?
Hey, cut these motherfuckers off, nigger.
My shit's still ready.
My bitch, stay right here.
So what's like the most, like, even though you got to have the discipline,
what are you making sure that's intact before?
Of course, you know, you got your jab on, right?
Like you said, you want your legs right.
What has to be intact in order for you to be there?
Yeah, like what you mean?
Like you said, like you say, fucking your leg.
That's what we do.
Like the whole training camp, we just, you know,
preparing to be perfect on that one night.
So shit, we try to make sure everything is on point.
Like, ain't nothing that, like,
we just be like trying to make sure everything.
I don't know.
I can't really say like.
The dieting.
I'm going to ask you about that.
What part of that you hate like?
Oh my God, all of it.
Yeah, that's the thing.
That's the thing.
All the time I say that, like, that's the worst.
What's the crazy diet you have?
I feel like discipline from sex, you know what I'm saying?
Like, I feel like all that shit is just moderation.
Like, you know, like, too much of anything could kill you.
So, you know what I'm saying?
I feel like, but when the dieting, oh my God, that shit.
What's the worst diet you ever had?
I mean, man.
Yeah, all that shit be hard.
You know what I'm saying?
When you're cutting weight, you'd be hungry, you'd be fucking craving sweets and craving foods and pizza.
What can you eat? What can't you eat?
I get fish, grilled fish.
Like, just hell of fish and chicken, big chicken.
It's like, if the food don't be nasty,
but you just be tired of it, like, man,
I'm trying to go eat some french fries.
I'm trying to go, I need some Doritos or something.
They got that American Deli Cup.
Let me get a 50-piece fried hard.
Let me get a 50-piece fried hard.
I don't know.
That bitch myself.
Man, for real.
That bitch myself.
part of it that I know just I couldn't imagine man just the working the part of it because
you love the sport but that died like you got to think like you know like once you made it to a certain
level you're eating at the best restaurants in the world you're going to the you're getting the
best dishes the best food whenever you feel like it to where you got to just one day all right
to fight about to sign this contract eight weeks out I got to cut all that shit out and go drink
a gallon of water fucking day and eat some drink some smoothies and shit you're like you're at
one sixty five and you need to make one 30
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So is that about time where it's more than eight weeks than you do, is the higher the tier
of fight, you give yourself more time or is it always an eight-week window?
Yeah, I mean, that's like the ideal time is eight weeks or like just strict, you
will just lock all the way in.
But sometimes, you know, we know we fighting, nine times out of ten, we know we're fighting
like 10 to 11 weeks before, so we, you know what I'm saying, we start training the shit.
Like two months.
Eight weeks is when you just lock all the way in.
Who run your camp for you?
My dad.
But I mean, I got a team, I got a huge team, but, you know, I got my dad, my brother, my older brother,
and I got a bunch of coaches, got a nutritionist, I got a whole fucking stable, you know what I'm saying,
people that just helped for me to be perfect for that one night.
I want to ask you, who you got on your recovery team, like masseuses and shit like that?
Oh, yeah, I got a girl who like stretches me out and, you know, I'm saying,
make sure all my shit and my muscles, everything is loose and all that.
But yeah.
You have to take care of your body, man.
That's the key because no fight you ever go in where you're just 100%.
So you try to be, and you try to be 100%, but it just, you're training so hard every day that you got to,
you're going to get hurt, you're going to get injured, but you got to have somebody that's there to, you know what I'm saying,
and do the ice baths and, you know,
massage you and, you know, get the knots out
and the kinks and all that shit.
What advice you got to the-
train like the next eight weeks?
What about you got to the next up-and-comits, man?
Shit, man.
Come to this bitch looking like,
damn it, I'm like, what the fuck you then done, man?
Just make sure you work on the back.
I'm gonna do, I'm telling you.
I ain't gonna do the diet.
I gotta do that.
I'll do all the workout, right?
Don't do that.
You gotta do that, man.
You're gonna be eating baked chicken.
I don't get papadoes.
No, I don't eat chicken.
I don't eat chicken, so I'm gonna go straight
with the fish, but, you know what I mean?
I just like the challenge of it.
That's why I love the sport of boxing so much,
because the mental challenge of it is,
it just makes you something different, man, you know what I mean?
I feel like that too, like I said, moderation.
It's good to just be able to like, you know what I'm saying?
Like, just fucking, like, get away from that shit.
Like, get away from all, like, the partying,
the clubbing, to everything, like, just to-
Yeah, you gotta have a strong mental.
and I'm happy that I'm able to do that
just to cut everything off and you say,
all right now it's time to lock it.
Yeah, that's all right,
that's the same shit.
It's just the food, man.
That's the hardest part that died.
That's why I ask, like, cause you be,
you know, we do shit like this.
You know, our job don't start till 8 p.m.
With being, you know, entertaining as a comedians and shit
and you get out of the show
and you're looking around, they go some funnets, fuck it.
And you know what I mean?
And the fact that you gotta train yourself
not to do that, that's the hardest shit in the world.
everybody, you see people around you,
they eat in, they...
Oh, nah, fuck that.
Get the fuck from around me.
That's the, there ain't no way, bro.
Get your bitch, I curse the niggas to fuck.
Get your fits of anxiety with that burger.
Fuck, nigga.
You can't do that, because at the end of the day,
it's your dream and your goal,
so you should be able to, you know what I'm saying,
discipline yourself and...
Nah, that ain't thing, that ain't thing, that ain't that ain't...
I can you get away, I got fat metabolism.
But my body go in a starvation mode.
I go from cutting weight, starving to everything that I'm craved, I'm eating, so my body hold on to it.
So I can gain weight easy.
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So what did you do the night before when you came out with the 50-cent, the skinny, this, I mean, I'm talking about that.
50-cent from that movie, bro.
When I seen you, I was like, bro, what the fuck?
You know, your jaw line was like, nigga.
I'm like, yo.
You were just, I'm like, nah, man.
I'd be happy with fighters, dude, real?
I ain't think that's true.
No, niggins.
You got to understand that this in your face.
I didn't think I look that back.
You ain't used to see you love your head on my body.
The closest I seen to it was in the UFC when Connor had that.
It was not that bad.
Well, he was, yeah.
He was not that bad.
No, I ain't going to say it was that bad because I never said that one.
But maybe you can see your heartbeat.
Yeah.
What the fuck?
I was like, what the fuck, man?
I'm like, nigga, you looked like he was great.
Kickbox.
I'm like, nah.
You would eat that McKell and Spinix.
So where did you eat that night?
Like, to read, to get back up to where, like, did you have something specific?
No, yeah, that's a secret song.
Right.
That's a, yeah, that's true.
A word saying, I need, oh, I think, whatever it didn't tell me.
But you got to do that first.
What?
I got to cut weight first.
I'm already cut.
No, you got to cut weight in the game back.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
I'm crazy.
You got to starve yourself.
See?
No, you don't fly.
Don't do it.
I'm already starving right now.
You're going to look like the Crip keeper.
You start.
Right now, what you do?
Listen to the problem.
I'll wait.
Okay, before I had my first job.
No, no, no, wait.
Before you had your first job.
This is like a woman.
You know this.
This is the other man.
This is your kid.
I got to tell the truth.
I got a baby weight.
Listen.
Before I pick up the baby way.
Listen.
Well, that's like, before I had my first child, bro.
I was at, like, 155.
When I had my first child, bro,
I cannot get over like 144.
I may get back into 143,
but I'm like 135.
Soaking wet, easy.
Easy.
How tall is you?
Six feet?
Shit.
135, ease.
Six feet, 135.
That's like a rubber system, big.
I eat everything.
I eat everything.
I eat everything.
Six years like, I eat, I eat everything.
When I went through the keyhole.
Oh, that nigga came in the house.
I can't keep on.
That's not, there's like a street fight.
That's awesome.
$1.15.
But if I don't work out on do nothing,
I lose all this shit.
Two days.
No.
If I work out a week straight, you'll see the tone up.
If I, two days, if I don't do nothing.
I thought I'd be working out so much that I'd be hungry.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
My body just be craving that shit.
Right.
Yeah.
But you probably got to eat all that.
You probably, your calorie intake probably crazy because you, your output, you're doing more than...
Do you keep a person, do you have a personal chef all the time or just doing fighters?
No, no, only when I go into training, I can't do, I can't do it.
I can't do it.
I can't do it.
Fuck all that asparagus and shit, I don't fuck that.
What advice you give to the up-and-coming fighters, man?
Yeah, I mean, just stay down.
I remember when I was just like them watching, you know, waiting on my, on my, on my,
our time to come. You know what I'm saying? I stay down, stay disciplined, stay watching the
great studying the great studying what they did, they mannerism and all that shit. And it finally
paid off. So just stay down and, you know, one day you're going, your turn will come.
Young legend, 23, man.
Undefeited. Undefeited.
We're coming to the next fight, man. We got out of that.
Yeah. Yeah. Y'all know eight-year-chapter four.
Yeah, what we got?
by two fighters, one is Marcos Mike Dona.
Yeah, what about?
Where the hell is?
Yeah, um.
God damn, I mean, I don't know.
I mean, Marcus Maidonna was a hell of a champion.
Where you go?
Tough fighter.
I don't know where he at now, but.
Yeah, he's.
Yeah, he was going, yeah.
He put him in my dick, man.
Yeah.
He did say that.
He did say that.
He did say that.
Yeah.
He put up a hell of a fight with Floyd, but I don't know.
Where he is at?
Yeah, you know.
where he had spending that money he made off that thing.
That motherfuckers are in goddamn Portugal right now, living.
Fondora, six, six.
Oh, yeah, Fondora, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Sebastian Fondora, yeah.
Yeah, he's a beast.
He's a beast.
Yeah.
You want to do something in this point.
You see them five?
No, I was coming up with another name, nigga.
What's my boy?
The middleweight.
He was a, he.
No, not Chalo them.
The twins is crazy, too.
The other, the young cat, man.
The young cat, the middle weight, man,
would be whipping ass, too.
Middle weight?
Yeah, middle weight.
Yeah, middle weight.
Right, what do you look like?
Young nigger, he'd be cheesing out of time.
I don't know the nigger name, man.
Who can know, you know, you know boss and cat.
I don't know the middle weight.
Young guy.
That nigga gave you nothing.
You know the nigger.
You know the nigger's.
Oh, you got wet gloves.
Smile, man.
The nigger got peace.
He's a new young cat, man.
He's a new young cat.
I don't know, man.
You're not talking about girls, bro, but you're not talking about Earl Spence.
No, bro.
What are you gonna look him up off of?
You have a little bit.
I don't get middleweight, who are you talking about.
He can't be in the middleweight.
You might be a different class.
Why did?
I bet who?
He's young man, the young nigger, man.
He's black, right?
Yeah, he's black.
Man, he'd be cheesy.
He just won, too.
Who?
Shikour.
You're talking about Shikour.
Shikor, man.
So, Cicor Stevenson, not no better weight.
That's he, what he is?
He's light.
Yeah, I could have sworn to middle weight.
I said, he liked with him in the beginning.
Over here.
Yeah, Chicago Steve's in the leg.
I said, I said, I just rock.
No, he's wrong.
You beat him already.
You beat him already.
No, he's undefeated.
He's not your career.
Oh, he is, y'all.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Oh, now why I say middleway can you win up.
You know, that's why.
You know, that's why.
See, I be on the right path.
There's a lot of young niggas,
there's a lot of young fighters that I
The sport of boxing has got a bright future with y'all boys, man,
because there's so many fights that can be made.
You know, Javonte, you know, is a dog.
You know what I mean, Ryan Garcia, you know, all of y'all, man.
You and the sport of boxing is good hands with y'all, man.
It's a lot of young talent.
Young talent.
Do you see yourself by?
I think when people talk about boxing not being in that good place.
So, yeah, definitely.
That's why I said middleweight kid game.
He went up.
Well, I think that.
But he only went up five pounds.
I didn't know he went up.
I think when people talk about boxing, falling off,
is that heavyweight, because I think y'all kicking ass
and that's some of the best, huh?
It's not really just heavyweights like they're going crazy.
Well, no, no, that's what I'm saying.
We don't have, like we said,
Deontzee Wilder the only US heavyweight
that we really got weapon, and that's what I think
the masses be looking at.
But I think like you said, this is some of the,
this is prime.
Right, no, for sure.
And we're all young.
young, like the top
niggas is all young. You ain't never seen
nothing like this, like, all the young
niggas is right. The young generation, the old
niggas is like, they're going out.
Like, the only, like, older, like,
Bud and Earl's like, they're like, oh, geez
in the sport now. That's crazy.
Yeah, right, right. Yeah, they're early 30s.
Right. How you feel about child on them? The twin? Yeah, I
folk with both of them. I like them. I like to.
Crazy. They go, but okay, how
feel about motherfuckers to go crazy but don't get talked about enough like they ain't the top contenders
mark it's yeah that's just boxing it's it's that happened in every sport that's football
it's niggas and football that's the truth that don't get talked about enough basketball no that's just
what is this that's just anything you know what i'm saying it's niggas would be really really like
the truth and whatever it is but yeah like comedy yeah same thing with comedy oh yeah yeah
yeah yeah it'd be raw as hell the comedy brother you act like and then and then and then be somebody at the
The top, who you're like, he really not even like that.
That's what I'll be telling these niggins daily.
These nays ain't like that.
Yeah, I just, I'm confused.
Did you, did you fall out, Spar Floyd?
Yeah, Spar Floyd, yeah.
How was that?
It was good work.
It was good work?
Was it like, R-B, where you were like, okay.
What?
What?
Up and go away, but this is like this OG.
Man, too, that shit was like crazy.
I couldn't believe it.
First round, I don't want to know about the other round.
The first round, what don't go through your head.
First round, you like, look across the regina, that
nigga Floyd over that motherfucker.
Yeah, when I first guy in there, I was like,
like, it didn't even matter no more,
like who was in there, like, Floyd, whoever.
I just started to do me like it was, like it was anybody else.
You liked your showing?
Yeah, no, for sure.
He really, they're working, he really liked it.
Yeah, hell yeah, and I appreciate
for even giving me that opportunity to even,
you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm saying?
That's like, that's like being able to play Michael Jordan
one-on-one.
What, you know what I mean?
Tells, that's a story, I'm able to tell people.
Right, you know.
Was it set up or was it like, hey, you want to fight for love?
He said, come on.
No, that was, that's kind of how it was.
I was in the gym one day.
Floyd was in there, and he was like,
Flood was like, glove up.
Like, let's get in there.
Fuck, me.
That shit is, man.
Give me, give him to him.
Give me.
That's it, man.
You want to fight.
Give me him to try some shit.
Ah, nah, no.
Nah, man.
I ain't going to hold you.
I ain't able to hold you.
I'm going to be like, hey, man.
Let me run to take this jacket off.
Run to the bedroom real quick.
I'll be right back.
Man, put a Rick Ross sort of a nigga, God damn.
That would cry.
Go get myself together.
But, yeah, but that's, like, that's a show in the heart.
I know he respected your heart for being able to get in there with him.
Man, for sure.
And, like, he know that, like, when I got in there, I wasn't scared.
Like, I wasn't, like, I didn't get Floyd to respect like he was Floyd.
I fought him like he was anybody else.
So that was, like, you know, I know that he respect.
Yeah, he got to respect.
Yeah.
To this day, he's going to respect that about me.
Like, he went in there, and he was trying to really go off.
Yeah, because he probably saw a self in you, you know what I mean?
Because at one point, he was a young nigga that was trying to.
You're going to be all right.
Word.
Yeah, you might have caught him with one and that nigg was like,
this thing don't get me fucking about who I am.
You're sure.
Oh, are you serious?
All right, bad.
But you know who I am?
Okay.
He wouldn't say he'd have another nigga.
Boy, you know who the fuck you know.
So you represent it.
A young boy.
Hey.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, whoa.
That's the money.
Now.
It's money like that, no longer.
You get hit at him, motherfucker.
Don't hit him.
Hit Adam.
Hit Adam.
You hit.
Hey, try to him.
Hey, try to him.
Hey, this is goddamn light work.
We got to help water tonight.
Don't hit him.
When you hit Adam, don't hit him.
Soon as you can, soon as you hit that nigga,
ding, ding, ding, hey, what the fuck did you know?
Let me talk to you.
Let me talk to you.
Let me talk to you.
Hey, come here.
Hey, come here.
You talk to you.
What do you?
What they tell you, fool.
What they tell you?
That ain't that.
This ain't that.
Them camera HBO in this motherfucker.
This ain't good.
That ain't too.
No.
He got something for you, just don't, hey.
We got something for you when they're, hey.
Don't go in there trying to get, hey, this ain't that.
So you're trying to be you.
I need you to go in there.
That's not what we want.
And not be you.
So you got your own team.
You know, Flood got here.
You know, they represent the, you know, people that's up on the floor.
And you can tell, like, the people that's up on the floor,
they're about to go crazy.
Yeah.
What makes you stand out and be like, all right, I'm gonna market myself and I'm gonna do
my own thing.
Really Floyd, to be honest, like just seeing his, like following his blueprint and I just
did it out of your age.
I was able to, you know, get the game early.
And that's when I was like, fuck it, like, the deals I was being offered, it just wasn't
like, I just knew I was worth way better than that, right?
You have a promoter, like, yeah, now I have a promoter.
But, um, so what I did was, you know, me and my dad, we was like, fuck it, like, let's
just wait.
And the deals I think offering you now, if we, it can't be the same deals with you 12 and 0, 15 and oh, it got to be getting better.
It can't get, it can't be the same if you owe and O.
Right.
So we just basically held out until we found that right deal.
And that was when we signed.
But we did a co-promotional deal, so where it was my company and their company together instead of just me signing my whole everything.
You know what I'm saying?
Just giving them everything.
And that boxing business, man, you know, I got to give a salute to Al Heyman, man, just because a lot of people don't break.
recognize him as a businessman,
but Slim got his hands and so much shit,
especially with boxing and just understanding
the promotion of fighting,
because it's such an art to promote a fight,
you know what I mean, to get people interested
and two people get in the ring
and beating the shit out of each other.
That's, it's a gruesome shit,
so you can market it and make it something
people wanna watch and come to, man,
so you taking that opportunity to do it on your own,
salute to you as well, man, that's a hell of it.
We look with your heart
over here on the 85 South Street.
Keep doing your motherfucking.
And shit, we're going to the fight, man.
I'll give my shit.
I'm going to be like me, though, so we can be in hell
my mother, great new dad.
I ain't going to say nothing to the end, though,
because I know how that shit is a distraction, you know?
Don't look at me.
I'm just like, do you, like, do you?
Like an open-second, man.
You know, I'm talking like, I know what the fuck.
I'm saying, man, jam there, boy.
Can't fucking fight you.
I don't know why that man.
I'm not.
I'm the family that want to fight the other fighters' family.
That beat, I'm like, I'm like,
I'm like, why he who'll be on the corner with a thing of wings.
Every time you look like, hey, niggins.
You're doing your thing, we got him waiting on you, boy.
Whatever your favorite is, man.
I got the pussy in the food, oh.
Hey, man.
We appreciate you stopping back.
This is your first time.
Don't let it be your last time.
Don't let it be your last time.
Yeah, that's what he said.
You said he's going to 155.
You said they're going to 154.
That's what he says you're going to go.
One more thing.
One more thing.
Floyd, at 502.
Yeah.
You're wondering what that catch weight is when, say, say, I'm at 135, somebody at 140.
It's a huge fight that we can make so we can meet in the middle.
We can meet at 138 or, you know, sometimes we go a little lower 137 depending on who got more leverage.
and they do a catch weight
to where, you know, I'm not getting an advantage
dropping you down at my weight
and you're not getting the advantage of me.
Making me coming up to your weight.
Right, all the way.
They do a catch weight and, yeah.
But it still don't matter
because at the end of the day
when y'all come in the ring,
a nigga gonna be his weight.
It do matter because sometimes
when you cut too much weight
it takes away from your power.
Yeah, that's why Roy Jones was fucked up
that when he fought up at that first time
because he had went up to the head.
And then dropped all that weight
He could come back down.
Up and down, up and down.
Yeah, he was burnt out.
He couldn't, he was, he lost all that way.
He went up to five weight.
He went to heavyweight.
He went to heavyweight.
He went to heavyweight.
When he went to heavyweight, he gained a bunch of muscles,
because he was trying to get, you know, bigger, stronger to be competing that heavyweight.
So then he tried to lose the weight, and he took away from his muscles.
Yeah.
His body was right.
That's why he said you got any excuses tonight because when he came off that,
dropped all that weight to come back down.
They knew that, you know, just him coming to losing all that muscle,
he was done in that first fight against toggle.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, that shit hard to do.
Damn.
Look, man, we appreciate you stopping through.
Don't let it be your asses.
On the way, man.
Let's get a photo, man.
I can smoke my weed now.
Let's get one with the channel.
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