The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - DJ DRAMA in the trap! w/ DC Young Fly Karlous Miller and Chico Bean

Episode Date: February 12, 2021

On this special episode, Mr. Thanksgiving DJ Drama leader of the Gangsta Grillz movement breaks down how he changed the mixtape game! He's dropped thousands of mixtapes and DC Young Fly, Karlous Miller and Chico Bean ask all the right questions to hear amazing stories about his legacy!SEE KARLOUS IN WEST PALM BEACH! JAN 20 +21st! https://www.palmbeachimprov.com/event...​Drama breaks down how he got in the game, what DJ's inspired him and he explains what DJ'ing means today. Ever wonder who is saying "CANNON" on all those drops? Drama explains it all.Plus Seddy Hendrinx is in the building breaking down how he snuck in the studio for a chance to meet DJ Drama. From Young Jeezy and Weezy to Kanye West, Drama got some cold stories! This is the coldest podcast!Subscribe To our Channel: bitly.com/85tubeFOLLOW THE CREWKARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/​DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/​CHICO BEAN - https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolFool/​Director - JOE T. NEWMAN - https://www.instagram.com/smokingjoen...​Producer CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/​Producer - LANCE CRAYTON - https://www.instagram.com/cat_corleone_/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Spread rumors like a motherfucking punk bitch. My fit is. A bad boy, a kidnap victim. I love. J-O-N. Let's go original, man, so we can get spotted, man. Play me one of them J-O-N tracks, man, that don't nobody even know about.

Yes, she. Yeah, this is something for the census workers right here. We back. We back. What you've been? We back. We back. Uh-huh.

Come on, man. This gonna be on our against the grill. We back. Oh, that's shit. We back. Oh. Oh. Oh.

Oh. Oh. What are here? This one show is waiting for? Oh. Oh. We back. We back y'all we back yeah we back yeah we back again

The 85 South show I'm here We do it We get that money We back on the road and we still let's go We back, huh Got a man for the same Okay Ain't gonna lie, I'm heading to be here with y'all food

Tell him Who this is here? I hear a voice Yeah, look, I hit some noise yeah Mr. Thanksgiving Oh shit Do it one more time You ready? Do it one more time

Uh-huh Uh-huh Mr. Thanksgiving Go! Oh shit We win Uh-huh We living

Because you know why Uh-huh We got Mr. Pay attention Hello We back I mean like a spine

If I said That we was leaving There you know that I'm lying Uh-huh All the girls I had shit They all wasn't fine

But one thing I can say What shit They all was mine. Okay. You think so? That ain't hit no nigger on the fucking law. Uh-huh.

When you ain't looking, you don't think a nigga can d-thro. Tell me, d-thro, to a whole not the man. Yeah. He thought that she was faithful till he felt her only fan. That ain't my business. That ain't my business. What she was doing with it when I was gone. That ain't my business.

Three-99. How much was it? Three-99. How much was it? How much was it? Hold-up. Bitch, he ain't even no nine. It was $3.99, so I paid that shit.

That's right. Damn. I ain't hate that shit. Uh-huh. A lot of niggas gonna hear this. And they're going to hate this shit. Yeah. That's out of eight.

Five, South, show. Oh. Oh. Now, you know that's up. What the fuck is wrong with you, man? I'm like the gunshot on the mix chain. You got my stuff. You can't open the more.

Y'all know y'all can open up. You're a project, baby. This is a project baby. Just open the chip like he was smacking some mad. You don't know? No, that was not that, yeah. Y'all got a bookproof that. They look, man.

There was a point in my life where all the music in my car was a gangster grill CD. I made an actual CD. I'm talking about some classic shit. Like, all the niggas had one. Everybody you wanted to listen to before they dropped the album, they had to go see drama. I drop their no-bans, gangsta grills mix tape.

All the time. So it's like today, the trap, the trap going platinum. We got to go crazy. All the way. Yeah, man, because this is not an episode. It's a mixtape. Oh! We got the word on it.

Mr. Thanksgiving. Ow! DJ the fuck drama! What's up, y'all? In the trap. You went to eight fast. It's only right. You got this motherfuckers' nigga that did the gaster grills in the trap with us, man.

This man, listen. Who are you? It's an honor, man. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming, man. Appreciate you did. I love. You know what happened in the shit you did for the streets.

Nah, good looking. Good looking. I'm talking about when it, like, when it made a whole nother another, you had a holl at them. I'm talking about change the game. It wasn't official. Like, it wasn't invented, but it was like he reinvented the whole mixtape game. The way people fuck with music right now is still going on like that.

like that you feel me like you took you took the attention off an album for so long like niggas weren't even trying to drop an album they needed that mix tape you don't get to scratch this earth ball if you ain't even saying your shit or a minute and a half before the song come on you ain't official right hey you took a hell of a sacrifice for the streets too with you know having to go to niggas and all of that shit like they went to jail for CDs for music For music, bro. And change the game, man. So we're honored to have you here.

Come on. Legend of us. Pleasure to be here, man. Pleasure to be here, Legends only. Is it fair to say? Like, if I ask you all, is gangster grill

is the most important mixtape series of all time? I mean, I'm talking about you made people listen to the whole shit. And it's like, even artists

that we weren't necessarily they're all the way familiar with that platform was so open where it's like it wasn't the pressure of them being at the radio station having to try to freestyle and not fuck up it was like damn run that shit back but i ain't know you can run that shit there you know what i'm saying what i'm saying i'd be telling people sometimes because then you know like the no dj versions became a thing and everything and i've seen people say like you know i want to hit like mixtape without the drops and it's a couple mixtapes out there without the drops but it's just not the same feel like you don't want to listen to trap or die without me you know talking that shit on there. Like, you know what I'm saying? Even for the, for the battle, he was just trying to get his songs together, but Gizi called me like, you got some of them songs,

like, we could play without the drops. I was like, niggas don't want to hit them shits without the drops. You needed, you told you there? Yes, I did. Yeah, they wanted to hear that, they want to hear that shit on there. Right.

You know what? I tell you what. You take my motherfucker drop off there if you want you. Yeah, I mean, but I think so, I think it's in that class. I'm talking about all the way back to, I mean, the old in the 80s, DJ Red Alert and all them types of mixtapes, like, it's in that class where it's a period in time where you couldn't hear no music without hearing DJ drama or somebody saying, when are you going to get a DJ drama gangster grade.

Man, two of my favorite gangster grill mixtapes that I felt like was the two most slept on out the whole series. Okay, slept on means it's not one of the more. No, I'm just, yeah, I'm saying that it's not like, it wasn't the one of that ground, but like it wasn't popular to the He didn't break the artist to the next platform. I think, but they were still two of the dope as one. Motherfucking slick puller. The neck funny. 4-4-day was hard.

Oh, hell. And big country came. Shout to all my gods. Oh, yeah. That was my gang. I mean. Drone did his motherfucking thing. If it wasn't for tip, really, I don't know if gangster girls would be what it was because, you know, he was the, like, when me and him was coming up, it was because, um, him understanding and, you know, grand hustle like getting it.

So we hooked up and did the first tape where it was literally all tip. Like that was like, I was like, okay, finally here's somebody that I can make the type of project I wanted to make with. And we could, you know, do this whole project together because everything pretty much followed that, you know what I'm saying? So he wrapped his ass off. So what was your vision? When you say, okay, whatever you do, and this is what you was going to do, your stamp, what was the vision that you said, like, all right, this is what I got to do for these people? A lot of my vision was really just about, like, was about branding, to be honest. Like, even when I was doing them early, like, when I started with the tapes or just even in my career, like, from early on, I started, I always wanted to make a scene.

Like, I watched how people respond to DJs or the music and things like that. And the thing I always hated, like, listening to the radio or going to a party was like, I don't want anybody to leave here and just say, yo, the music was good. Or the DJ on the radio is doing good. No, DJ drama did his motherfucking thing. So even with Gangster Girls, I was like, all right, if I can make this brand strong, I can kind of create a platform for myself to even kind of get on and everything. So, you know, on the early tapes, like, nobody knew what I looked like. And, you know, they just heard my voice.

Like, people used to tell me all the time, like, we thought she was dark skin and fat. Like, when we heard your voice. They came out, light of hell. They're like, that's you? Yeah. All that DJ drama, that's you? Yeah. It looks like he's going to be a shot in a bar, man.

What the fuck? The Shalomah face. You see, you don't drive and you didn't drive? This is the Gangs and Girls shit. A Shalama member. A Shalomah member, for real. So then that, you know, and then outside of that, it was just really going against a grain. Like, at the time, the way I was doing my tapes and then the style that was out, people used to tell, like, when I used to, like, just hand-to-hand them shit,

and they're just like, yo, when you're dealing with music from the South, people that buy mixtapes, they don't want to hear the talk in, like, up north DJs or new shit, or exclusives of freestyles and all that shit. And I was like, man, shit and me, watch how this goes. So I literally applied a format that people say it wasn't going to work. And, you know, I started moving with niggas like killing Mike doing freestyles and bone crushing tip at the time and, you know, just bringing new shit. And that shit was like, it caught.

So I was like, oh, I'm on to something here. It definitely is cool. It definitely caught. Like you, they're talking on the mixtapes like you and I say bigger ranking. Yeah, yeah, bigger. You got to know this. Bigger ranking. You can feel it.

You can feel the song. Oh, he didn't talk. Definitely. The streets don't love nobody, though. And you're like, you know what? I'm going to hear this shit again. Pray that shit back. But you know what?

I feel like you were the one who kind of like definitely started that. You know what? I'm not going to allow them to skip the song. Well, I'm going to tell you. Yeah, for sure. I'm going to bring, I'm going to play it. Matter of fact, I'm going to let you all get to the hook and guess what I'm going to do? I'm going to bring that bitch right back and say another minute before you hear the song.

And I'll tell you why I'm bringing this bitch back. And you like, and you like, I'm bringing this bitch back. You're like, you know what, read a book, because we listen to a book, let's go crazy. I would do all types of crazy shit that I was just learned. I remember even on dedication too. This is a part while I play a song. Like, nah, it's too early for that.

And make niggas go to another song and then come back to that song. And I just was like, at that point, I was just showing my ass. One thing I felt like I brought to the table. I felt that. Yeah. I was sitting there listening.

Like, this nigga just showing his ass. I'm going to head way through this motherfucker. Like, that's just the arrogance of where I was with the shit at the time. I said that. I could just do whatever. Like that. Definitely should get your ass a hand clap, like, because if it wasn't for you, niggas wouldn't even play that shit, man.

It would just listen to it. It would just sound like a regular mixtape, but you emptied up. And I felt like, like, I remember before me, mixtapes, like, there's always been DJs on mixtapes and, you know, shoutouts and saying things and everything. But I used to listen to mixtapes and everybody, be like, yo, shout the one-two-fifth Street or, you know, shot the so-and-so over here and all that shit. You already know, we're in the game. You know what I'm saying.

You know, that shit kind of came from that era, so I was like, all right, if I start, you know, if I'm on top of the music, how do I make it where I'm really adding something? So I just started listening to the music and then, you know, saying fly shit, you know, like every street nigga ain't a rapper, every rapper ain't a street nigga. But if you figure it out, you know, you know, like just fly shit that people would add to that. I'm not just talking about real niggas. I'm talking about real street niggas. Facts is how I came in, too, just like that. So, you know, with that, I think that that's one thing that people. liked and you know once the tapes will come and they understood like oh yeah i get drawn to talk

that shit like it's just different and you you originally from philadelphia originally from philadelphia did that mix tape influence like you said just having that background of being up north right when you came down here was it hard for people to did you have any resistance and people accepting that type of you know DJing a thousand percent i mean i never to be honest i never felt you know Atlanta is the type of city where it's just, you know, anybody that comes here or moves here, you understand the level of Southern hospitality or love. So one thing I learned early on coming from Philly, I always had gotten embraced or, you know, when I moved here to go to Clark Atlanta.

So even in my early years, you know, I met people that were doing the similar things that I was doing and, you know, always offered a help of hand. So I was like, it's just different from Philly. First of all, we don't have as many outlets. And then, you know, it's just a different energy in a city where you don't. You might not have a vibe or city like Atlanta with, you know, so many black people getting so much money in young ages and everything. So that was different. But never, like, you know, I always felt like, damn, it's really loved that I'm, you know, I'm a kid from out of town, even though I had lived here for some time, but getting embraced by the city, you know, bottom music and everything.

So really, no resistance I ever had to say anything was like with DJs that we were, you know, in a competitive sport. But even that was, you know, that's just the competitive nature of it. really be beefing. I mean, you know, it's like anything in hip-hop. Like, it's competitive. I take your motherfucker turntable. You know, I'm gonna bust your ass. So, so, okay, okay.

Y'all's stupid. Come on, I have to get turntech. Okay, now listen. Now, you're a DJ now, can you break down the difference between a DJ that just have a laptop and the ones that used to scratch or the ones that hosting on a mixtape? You see what I'm saying?

Yeah, it's a lot of different, like, DJing is like a tree with a lot of branches, like anything, especially like now all these years later after literally you could pick up your computer and you know, you could technically become a celebrity DJ if you not already haven't. I've been trying. That's hard. I salute y'all, that's hard. So yeah, I mean, I just look at it like, you know, there's no rulebook to this

shit and I didn't want to say if somebody necessarily could push a button or call them not a real DJ or have you. If you can rock in front of a crowd of people. You know, I'll salute you. You know what I'm saying? I'm glad I come from the era where I really had to carry crates and I was the last thing in the club. And, like, if you ain't had no real friends,

you had to carry all of them. Because them shit's as heavy as a motherfucker. Like, and we said I, like, have, like, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. If you had your whole record collection, you had a lot of crates. So, you know, like, this era of DJs gets a lot more women. Yeah, you had to. You had to have an SUV or something with a truck.

a trunk in it or else you wasn't getting around. I remember when I first started getting money, the first car I had was a Benz, and I was like, I'm never going back to SUVs. Like, because of that. But I came from the era of carrying crates, but, you know, people don't know that grind because you can just come into the club

with a Louis Vuitton book bag. And it's a rally. Yeah, with your shit on. Did you have any DJs who you had to carry their crates for them that you get, like, ushered into the game that way? I never technically carried any crates for anybody, but I had different DJs during my career that like definitely showed me the way when i was in philly it was a dj

named ghetto who was more like a scratch type dj he used to win like dmc's and everything because i you know i used to study all the shit so i was into that just as much i was never that good that's why i was focused on the mixtape but then it was a dj you know shout to dj mars who like um used to really be moving around in alana a lot yeah marg my god so you know when marge did the super friends and you know in the early 2000s like he took he pretty he took us under his wing in some ways and I definitely learned some of the game from him and everything and I remember a time when I was

I didn't think anybody was going to ever correlate DJ drama to me because I was like that word is just too popular of a word other people using it ain't nobody going to think about me when they think of that and Mars was like they don't change your name for nobody and then you know I never forget that advice because I didn't

I was like all right make everybody come to you with their name or make another nigga change his name so so yeah so Mars was an early influence for me DJ Shaquim, who used to DJ for Bow Wow. You know, I saw all these guys like when they were like, you know, top of the game. And I was kind of like, you know, just I was still putting together CDs at the crib that I was burning from Kinko. So, so yeah, but I definitely would salute Mars for, you know, help him help showing me the way and things like that.

What do you think is the most impactful gangster grill of all of them? You know, if you had to pick the, not the necessarily best one, but the one that had the biggest impact on the game. I think it's too. My argument is between Traber Dye and dedication to There you go

I was about to say Yeah Dedication I was like It dedicated And then that boy That's like And dedication

As a series As a whole As another phenomenon Because it's literally Six, seven of those You know Compared to like Trabada

as a stance Still But to me Dedication 2 is the best one And then like impact for Wage Just like Trabidid's that

I mean That shit changed my life Like That shit changed The game You know I'm saying Like Look at where

We are now with the effects of GZ and that influence of that time. But between them two, like, that shit, you know, can't nobody fuck with me, man. Tell them again. No, talk. I'm talking, hey, hey, I'm talking to the new line. That's why we brought you here. I'm going to wait. Don't wait to spin.

Talk your shit like a dick. Now, yeah. Canterby phone. That GZ trap or die come about, like, was that something that you orchestrated or did it kind of, you know, a lot of things just kind of come together just, you know, by the universe. Was it one of those or did you orchestrated? Interestingly enough, I mean, I definitely think the universe played a part. You know, I used to live in the Fourth War. I used to live on Glen Iris, which is right around the street.

Yeah, and they get right. Right around the corner from Boulevard and everything. So, quote, in their own purpose, man. When coach used to live around the corner, that's how I met coach. He used to live right around the street from me. Shout to Coach Kay. And, you know, he came to me like, you know, in the early days. He was like, yo, I got this new nigga I'm working with.

And they had just put a project out called Come Shopping. with me and you know anybody from that era will tell you the old jeez he come shop with me van used to ride around the city and everything so literally uh young used to come to my crib before the gangster grills and i used to make him show tapes um when he used to come to the fourth war i used to just like put freestyles on there for him charging a couple hundred dollars and boom boom so that's how we first got um introduced and then he you know he he pretty much like like so not trabada but the tape we did before that was called uh streets is watching that was our first tape that was literally the first mixtape I ever got paid for.

They gave me like $1,000 at the time. And, like, one thing about Young is that he always had a vision. Like, you know, he knew where, like, he had it laid out in a sense. And I was like, yeah, no doubt. I mean, I don't think at the time I can definitely admit, like, I never saw it becoming what it became. But, you know, gangster grills was already a brand in motion. He was like, y'all, I don't even know if you know how much the street's fucking with you. So after we did the first tape, and then, you know, like, it just caught like that.

Like, I just started seeing the reaction, and my man told me, like, early on, you know, this is around, this is when T.I. is, like, on top of the world. You know what I'm saying? And my man walked up like, yo, that GZ tape you did? That's the best gangster girls you ever did. I'm like, the new nigga, like, word. And he was like, I'm telling you so. And I started going on the road with them just during the Chitlin Circuit days and seeing the response and reaction from the tape and everything. So by the time we got to trap or die where we was about to do it, you could already, you could feel, in a sense, the energy, especially, obviously in the city and everything but when we did that tape like I didn't I didn't see it becoming that like it was life changing it was everything every city I went to I used to be on a road with tip I would hear

that shit coming out on every car like you know I think that you know just just to this day my nigga I see people all the time that tell me how many years they did behind bars and what gangster girls meant to them in there and how they listened to them and those tapes and everything like it just was it just was special like and I

I believe in the universe playing a role in a lot of those things. Like, you know, when the story's told, like a nigger from Philly literally helped change the sound and the movement of Southern rap when it comes to, you know, that time and that place of hip-hop and everything. So that's the universe, point-blank, period. Or the fact that I lived around the corner from fucking Coach K to even, you know, for him to introduce me to the guy that, you know, we're going to change each other's lives. Hell yeah.

Coach got the game in the headlines. Yeah, for sure. It has been for some time, man. You know, it's a, it's a good feeling to see people you came in with, like, still doing their motherfucking things. You know what I'm saying? Shatko, okay. He always had the game. Oh, yeah.

So you get to a point where you got the trapper, the gangster grill, the trap of dial. Like, did you, at that point, did you say, all right, this is what the move is, the gangster grill series? Like, what made you say, you know, I'm going to make a diss instead of just going calling the different shit? Like, you had the streets that's watching before. Matt Streets is watching. Well, it was always still under the Gangster Grills umbrella, but I knew by that time that Gangster Grills was the thing that was going to take me through there. Like I had, I was like, okay, yeah, I'm on to something with this shit.

Like, before those tapes, I was still, they was basically regular compilations, like mixtapes, which is, you know, songs from everybody. So by the time I started getting to that space where, you know, the guys are coming in and we're doing whole projects, like, I knew I was, um, that, that was going to take me in the direction that I wanted to go on with my career and everything. I was just telling somebody this earlier today, matter of fact, I was talking to hit maker Youngberg, and he was just, we was going

back, he was going back, talking about, you know, I didn't even remember this. He said I tried to, I charged him like 30 grand for gangster grills, and I was like, yeah, I was out of my mind. I was just, I was going, I was getting, so I was going crazy. I was going crazy. Mr. Thanksgiving. You guys hearing that and it with a echo.

Yeah, I feed. Bro, I always wanted to see. Kirk Franklin gangster girl that would have been that'd be crazy that'd be crazy raised the root for Jesus there wouldn't have been no songs all the old bitches in the front row

raise the roots and Jesus you wouldn't have been had to like as soon as he yeah me and him would have been on here oh you thought it was just gonna be you yeah and then I'm gonna have to say my shit but now already knows my time and it's time to get down

that had been that had been dope who's somebody that you wanted to do one with that you never got to work with who somebody wanted to do one that I never did um Yeah, y'all You would do a dance

I would You would You want to do your solo He basically saying We got to do our solo Then we can double back He wanted to do his real show He sent me some records

But he knows what I'm mad though So I don't know if he's real about it What you mean? What do you mean? We've been having this comic for some years That's the same by the gangster grill I don't know if you real about it Hey I am the lady

That's kind of hard You hear me? You hear me? I am the label. Don't fuck with it. I am the label. That's D.C. mixtape. You know what I'm at?

Nick ain't never put a dollar in me. I am the label. That's hard. You hear me. Let me think. What's the charge? I'm not. I'm not.

He's going to charge you nothing. He said it before. He's going to pick up the phone. Yeah. I'm not. We're not going to pick up the phone for free money. When he's free. We're going to make money.

We got it on tape. Now, I just keep it. Because that's really, yeah. I see the two of all over the other. Hold it over again. Remember DJ Dr. Because, you know, if you don't want, you don't pay me up front, then, you know, you just got to bust me down on, you know what I'm saying?

No check's coming in. I don't want I'm trying to go. Ain't no chump, man. I've been out here hustling. What do you need, E.J. Drummond? I am the label. I answer to no one. So, so, Gushi and Drake was going to do one together.

Were? Yeah, that was going, that was going to be. We need to put that. Oh, you know what? I've never said. I've never told this. So the be-me-up Scotty, the Nicky Minaj, shout the holiday, that's my brother. But originally, Nikki had hit me about, that was going to be her gangster grills. That didn't happen. So that didn't happen. Damn.

That guy came Drake, though. Yeah, Rob and Drake. Travis Scott, before the rodeo. Okay. That was going to be a gangster grills. It's a couple of projects out there than I'm like, you know. That's a cool, good. Another question. Do you have to be a gangster this?

to get a gangster grill. No, absolutely not. Absolutely not. And that was one thing early on with the brand, even when the direction I was going, I was like, I never wanted to necessarily

be pigeonhole into that, per se. So I remember when I first did like a tape with like Farrell, I did one with a little brother. Like, I remember people been like, they don't, that's, how are you going to do it? Gangster girls with a little brother,

you know what I'm saying? But I was like, watch this. And I just, I knew that, you know, the brand was where I would be able to take it. So I think I've stepped out enough with it that you ain't, It ain't, no, it ain't about being, I mean, being the gangsters up here, clearly, so, you know what I'm saying?

Because that really, I'm just thinking all kind of shit, Nick here to be. They go, Mr. Diggs, gangster grills. That was Ron Isley, man. Some of my best ones is, like, R&B ones. The Jeremiah, late-night's gangster grills, is fire. Chris Brown shit is fire. Like, yeah, there's some good ones with some that don't even come in the form of me having to scream over them. Now, you, you know, a lot of people might not know this.

but you, the feds came and got you, like... Can you talk about, hold on, hold on, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, yeah. I know it's over with me, the niggins don't even like to talk about old shit. You're straight? You good? Yeah, enough time is passed. So, what, how did that happen? I mean, was it because you was, what was the reason behind that?

To be honest, I don't know if I ever found out the real reason behind it. I mean, somebody, somebody was in a position. They was, um, back in the day when they would have, like, music stores and everything, I think it was a peppermint. was in the mall. What's the mall? That's the mall. What's the mall that's out there?

Oh, that's all. South what? South Lake is out there. So it used to be a chicken South Lake Mall. They used to have like one of them stands in the middle where she used to sell mixtapes and everything.

And I guess she was booming. So peppermint called the cops on her like, yo, the lady out here selling bootlegs or whatever. So then when they came to her, she was like, nah, these are not boolegs. Like, these is good. I get these from DJ Drama. So I guess they looked into it.

And then they like went to, they like went to my website. They started doing some. some like research and everything and like you know I you know at the time I was like the mixtape king I was on top of the world so 90 million years did I have to think about something like that or that that was even possible you feel what I'm saying like yeah we wasn't it wasn't like it wasn't like we was dabbling in no other shit and like so you know one one faithful morning they just they came to the door with them M16s and them gun's drawn and the black taho's up on

the on the porch with the helicopters outside and for your music my nigger for music bro for music not a not a joint or fucking nigh nothing they're melody's they are called melody they told me so then they and they told me they told me i was uh they was booking me for the riko so you know this is what niggi the riko they got me for the riko for some of my riko bro the next day when i got out and i was i was on the phone somebody was like yeah you checked your bank account And I was like, nah, for what? I didn't get check your bank account. That shit said zero point zero.

Oh, they took everything. Oh, my God. They took that. And that was the first time I had ever seen no real money. So I used to just look at that bitch every day. Right. Just look at them numbers just like this. And that shit said, zero point zero.

I'd cry my little heart out. But I still be crying. In the scheme of things, you know, I mean, I feel like, you know, they made me more famous. Right. They put me in a sense of fascinating. and I was already going, you know, it made me a martyr to the game. And I just, I just never wanted to feel like, damn,

I don't want this culture that I grew up on. I love to die on my shoulders, you know what I'm saying? So, you know, I just, that was my thing. Like, damn, I don't want niggas, I don't want mixtapes to die, and it'd be my fault, you know what I'm saying. So, but it was a hell of a time. It was a hell of a situation. But, you know, now, I mean, it's for some things that literally,

like, we're talking about, like, that is the name of the game now. You know what I'm saying? Like, everything we're doing was literally what we had been doing at that time. And the law that they actually got me on was some shit They called the true name law Where they said if you make a CD You have to put an address on the back of it So you remember how the mixtapes used to be

It was a black case So it wasn't no back So that's what they technically So how did you bounce back from that Like you go from being on top of the world Yeah Looking at the numbers every day Now your shit is in the red

I mean I was still You know my shit was in the red But I still was who I was So And then you know It was like I still it garnished me a lot more attention like they put me on a cover of billboard after that

situation so it was like a newfound fame in a lot of ways and i had i had yet to put out my first album on atlantic i was about to put my debut album out so you know atlantic was hype at the time like oh you can't pay for this publicity like let's let's use this yeah so that out came yeah so that's how they came and then you know so so yeah i never you know i even when i would do interviews i remember thinking like this is only a chapter like everybody who goes to faces adversity so it really just this ain't nothing you know god it's great you overcame that version and look at you you hear me you hear me what some damn melodies man but it's like after going through that and seeing what it did for the culture do you feel like like i don't know

like it could have like you were chosen for that to push this forward or for what um or a victim of whatever they thought or what i'd like to i mean i you know my my glasses always have full so you know if i if i had to be the one for that like i guess i'm thankful for that because of my outlook and never knowing that you know we're going to rise from this like this this ain't nothing you know i'm saying so um welcome to pretty private with ebonye the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free i'm ebeney and every tuesday i'll be sharing all new stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all.

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but saying that's just I never knew that should happen yeah you know that's just a that's to me that's a pat on the back of the things I've accomplished since then you for what I'm saying so you know I look at it like that you know I put I put everything in um in context how does that work like I always see the DJ you DJ Callet yeah like and you have all these artists on the album and I'm thinking this shit got to cause so much money to make because you got all this is the budget bigger for a DJ album or do you just basically like it's all this a phone call it's it's if you were to pay everything based upon what a DJ album would cost that shit would 13 trillion dollars right it got to be I think about my albums and the names on there

so yeah a lot of it is based on relationships I mean there's definitely money involved but you know My budgets have been fair, they have been, like, overly over the top. But when you do an album, I get at that extent, you know, labels or whoever your business partners is, know you're going to have to call in some favors because that shit's a pretty penny. You feel what I'm saying? But, you know, I've been blessed to work with the greats and some motherfuckers to say I got so-and-so on my album. Hey, out of your whole catalog of all this, you know, music you've been a part of, what was the one in your catalog that was like the sleeper that did take off immediately

that people kind of had to go. back and get. That's a good question. Damn, that's a good question. Oh, no. I got to think about that. I'm trying to think if it's a tape or... I mean, that Jeremiah, late-night's

mixtape is still pretty fucking fire. I feel like it's a little underrated to this day. That shit, that's just special. I never heard that. I'd be able to fire. I mean, but, you know, honestly, I technically, in a sense, feel like that with every artist that is, that's,

signed to me or comes for me because, you know, I'm all, you know, one of the things about being in business with me or being a part of my label is I'm going to promote the shit out of my niggas. So, you know, I've, I can look at pictures and look at times when I've, you know, now they're fucking some of the biggest in the world, but, you know, when I was pretty much close on them and nobody knew who they were per se. So I guess, you know, everything, I'm a part of my label in a sense, I don't want to say it slept on, but, you know, I catch it from our early point and then just to watch from, you know, those days to where it's become, you know, I think just today, like, Uzi tweeted, um, uh, Jay-Z said he's like Prince.

So now they're going to call him the new little Prince. And I, you know, the nigger is. Like, he's different. That's it. Did you see that when you first saw Uzi? No, I didn't see this. Like, I didn't. Like, he was always very confident and always had a vision and a past.

I don't know if anybody can see this, though, like, to this. Like, this, like, this thing is the fuck. fucking alien. Like, he's another planet rock star. You know what I'm saying? So I'd be lying if I-sloom Uzi for something. I'd be lying to sit here and say that I saw that, but, you know, we knew he was special. He said, yeah. He's crazy, man. They got an old got-hawn got pink diamond, man. That's what it is. But, like, being from Philadelphia and Uzi being from Philly, like, did you ever feel like been as though you came to Atlanta? Like, all right, I got a responsibility to go back home and get some iron now because I didn't

all my work down here, I owe it to the city. Yeah, for sure. And I feel like I did that through the years. And one thing about Philly is, like, niggas still be like, nah, nigger. What have you done recently, though? Like, you know, it's just... You got to be getting somebody every three months.

Oh, my right. Yeah, man. Come on, man. Yeah. Come on, man, disability, man. So, yeah, I mean, I felt that through, through a lot of times in my career. But, you know, obviously, for me and canon,

like, you know, having Uzi as an artist and then, you know, coming out the gate with it, and his success and him being. from the from the crib like yeah that was special yeah that shit was special what's what's being your fastest turnaround on the mixtape um as far as putting it together from start to finish um oh that's a good question so i was when i used to have to do dedication my i was um i think like i i didn't have a lot of time like i think the the the um the deadline was in a couple days or something the first one has it been an artist that requested you be in the

studio the whole time they're doing this shit. They asked for that, but I don't do that. Nick, you got to be here. I need you. So you know without them? No, it's a process. Yeah, I like that. So do you listen to the song first?

100% all the time. The whole, back and forth. I go into the songs, I listen to them and I think about what I'm going to say. You don't think it's a better, I mean, why not be there, though? Does that not help the process if you did when the... I don't mind being... No, because I've had some fly shit come out of some times when I was there, because I remember what we did, when me and Meek did Dream Chasers 2,

We wanted us, ready and not. I had some fly shit. I had just read in Time Magazine or something. It was about sleep, and the tape was the Dream Chaser, so it was like perfect timing. So, yeah, so there are some times where some good shit comes out of that. I don't know. I just like to be in my own zone, pretty much.

How many times if you had to do one when you just be like this shit horrible, but I got to. You ain't got a name the nigga, but. That's the hard thing. There's like, you get a movie. There ain't no way you're going to like everything. And they didn't see this. You be like, oh, shit.

I can't talk to get on this. You know what it is? This is some bullshit. This is going to be the best bullshit you ever here. I promise you, no bullshit is better than this. From one to ten, ten tracks of scrap bullshit. You niggins ain't up on this. Yo, that's classic.

Oh, shit. That is crammed. They can be like, well, I got to eat this shit again. Yeah, right here. At all that, all that's, all that's it. Get down to the shit of me. It's the best bullshit you've ever heard. Oh, wait to you.

Wait to you in the next one. I think I'm like, oh, shit, this shit worse than now. I gotta hear that. Oh, yeah, bullshit you ever see about Larry is. What he say? Never mind what he said. Cut the car off my nigger. Oh, shit.

Play your song. Fuck that, play your song. Yeah. Just let it run. Right. Just let it run. Did that ever happen, though? You ever had that happen to you?

Yeah, I think I could count on two hands. I've probably done 500 to 1,000 gangsecreel. I probably can count on two hands at times I've... You was like, ah. Yeah. Spend 11 to 1,000? So how do you... How do you...

It's like 500. How do you spread it out? Because I know you have an intro. You might see it go over every song if you like... No, I don't want to do that. I don't like doing that. Right, right. You had to...

So when you do the intro, the middle, then the end. As time. When I went on and the game changed, I started going on less and less songs. Right, right. But definitely the intro, definitely something at the end. And then where it fits accordingly. I never, I don't be one, like, I never want to be overbearing. I want to, I want to blend in with the music, you feel what I'm saying?

So, yeah. Yeah, that's important. That name is crazy, bro. People have said shit to me like, damn, I want drama to do my, be in my graduation, be in my eulogy. You know what you got to do? Do those? You gotta do a GPS, though. GPS?

Yeah, you'll kill it as the GPS. That's hard. Make a left. Yeah, that's fine. Yo, my nigga, the destination is coming up. Yeah, that's right. You said you what, you're gonna make it, but look at you. You already did.

That's hard. That's fire. No, for real. That's hard. Yeah, that's hard. You haven't thought about expanding and it's doing different shit. Oh, of course, absolutely.

You'd be like Siri. Your voice is famous now. Yeah. We got to branch off, man. No, I would love to do that. You're laughing. You're answering questions, and this, nigga, what to do? You're like, oh, nigga, I'm just trying to figure out this song. That's one of mine right there.

That's old, bro. GPS is crazy. That's on. Don't go up there. The police to the left. You got three pounds in the car. Bustle right. Hold up.

It's another police, nigga, just paw. Dici, you start spinning a little bit. He comes in. As soon as you get over the speed limit, yo, niggas think the police ain't out here. I'm talking about it's a real GPS slow down your transmission slipping right exactly dog that's genius legendary it'll be dope all the DJ niggins that'll be

yeah that's legendary what there him bigger rank and all the diggers on the goddamn GPS my dog I see you on your way don't slow down the streets don't love nobody dog then I'm going that's what it is have you ever have you ever thought about expanding in that capacity though um I play around with it because I know my voice is like, you know, epic and known now,

so I'm all for shit like that. Like, I do shit, like, you know, I do a lot of, like, voice imaging and voiceovers and stuff like that and other avenues and things. I got a real good. Have you ever been able to pick up a phone? It had to, like, stop your DJ voice.

You're like, what up, my... What up, my nigga? Nah, I'd be having my shit under control. I'll be red talk normal more than anything. That's funny. I have to remind myself to turn it on. As a matter of fact, that shit happened to me The other day I was doing some drops or I was DJing and doing something and then like

they wanted me to do a drop at the end and I turned it on and he was like, I would have been nice to have that energy the whole time and I was like, damn, the regular shit was just me like that was just be doing myself. The nigger that's say, damn, son, where'd you find this? I don't know who that. Who is that? I don't know who that. How do y'all be getting them shit like, so you know.

Damn, son, where'd you find this? You know who the gangster girl's drop is, right? Little John, right? Right, so the gangster road drop is a little John. You know who the, on the Cannon, you know, that what was this? That's from the John Madden game. So who does the voice for Madden? Steps Back, that's the guy Pat Summerall's.

That's Pat Summerall's voice. Yeah, that's Pat Summerall. Because Cannon was playing a video game and he made a character on the game. It was like, Cannon, steps back. Take three. Cannon. Oh, that boy, cold. Why Canon, not all along?

Oh, because the Canaan. DJ, Kenon. Yeah. Don can't be. I get it. Trends set us. Yeah, you see what I'm saying? Them shit, them little drops.

Like, do you make your own or is it like, everybody makes their own? Everybody makes their own. So what did you got new coming now? I know you got some. Man, you know. A lot of artists. Yeah, a lot of artists. You know, the label's been booming.

The energy is good. So Jack Carlo just drop, that's what they all say. What's hot. Jack Hollow was coming on a while. Early, you know. Remember, when we did that, when we did while and out, I don't think, I think he had made what's popping. It's on, that it didn't, it wasn't even moving.

He did it. Oh, yeah, I remember he did, he did. The first time was, he was super early. You know what I mean? The second time he had started to pop at that first time. A little bit, but still was, yep. He had the SoundCloud. Yeah, yeah, that's good one.

So that was early on. And then, um, got a new artist, Cedie Hendricks. Setti. Yeah. Go Crane. Go Crane. Dysonville. Dysonville.

Dysonville. Oh, Cranes. dude balls said he's crazy how do you find your artist like do they find you or do you find sometimes they find me I feel like said he found me

I think that would yeah because he was at the studio he said he wound up sneaking in like a couple times before that so he found me he snuck in the studio yeah he snuck in he got a mogulah

how do you do that how do you do that how do you sneak in the studio nigginsett Come on, nigga. Oh, say that, say that. Yeah, he's whispering this. All this is the artist right here.

I don't know. Sadie Hendrix in the motherfucker. Daddy! We don't have to have faith! What's happening? What's happening? Talk your shit, got anybody? I snuck in this shit, fucking, I'm so...

Yeah. I bet. I snuck in the studio on through an engine named David. You feel me? He's from Jacksonville, too. But after that... Oh, so he got you the inside... No, he kind of told him he was like,

listen, one, two, four with the thing. I told him. I told him. story the first time now. He had done with that twice already, and I'm at the house, and I'm like, you know well, bro, you're not just going to be telling me you're going to DJ drum studio. The third time, I'm going. He's like, nah, I'm like, I'm going.

So he said, all right, when I go in, I don't know you. I say, cool. So I go in that motherfucker when I walk in, you know what I'm saying? He goes his way. I sit on the couch, um, meet this one dude. Feel me? Oh, as soon as I sing, you know, I da-da-da-da-da. Right.

Oh, let's go, but let me hear you music real quick. I play him in these songs, molded me. And he gave me the whole, the usual, yeah, yeah, gave me a card. Never heard from him again. Right. I come back, you feel me, I meet Willie Joe. You know what I'm saying? Willie Joe was like, he heard, played him the same songs.

So he's like, oh, nah, he put me in the studio, let me hear some write songs, O&BPs, it bring me to a video shoot. Then I meet him from Willie Joe. And then John heard my music and was like, all, I want to see if you do it again. He heard some more. And was like, I don't know I need him. It's a rap. It's a rock.

It's a rock. That's how you do that shit. Pull it back up. You get it? You mean. Yeah. I thought when you said snuggling in the studio like the nigga leaned on the wall

and weight on the dough that in close Stuck it full of the bitch. Nah, a nigger would say that. They're like, hey man, who fuck that smugging that I know. It did sound like that, right? Right, right. You put your ear to my phone.

That would have been a hell of a story if it happened like that and I signed a nigga off that. We had people in the door. I mean, damn nil. But see, but when you see in drummer, when you seen drummer, when you seen drama, you're like, I can't stop the pommel. You're like, I can't stop the pomm. You know, I know he's, I know he's in there.

He's someone. I like how you brought up Willie Joe, because that's black history, right? That nigga Willie Joe looked out. What? That nigga, Willie Joe, bro. His name, Willie Joe. He come from a long history of niggas that looked out. Willi Joe ain't the type of nigger that's do some shit with you.

But he ain't gonna stop you from doing it. Right. Overcombe in there kill master. I ain't going to tell him the front door of here a lot of it. Willie Jones. Who is it? So what do you have to hear? Like, all the music you did, you said he did the thousand mixed things.

What do you have to hear to say that's it? Yeah, for sure. I feel like as much as I got to trust my ear, I don't trust my ear. So if that makes sense, like, all right. So boom, like, you say, what do I have to hear? Like, I'm not fucking, I'm not to know it all be all. So it's shit that's, if I listen to it, I might say, like, you know what, I don't really hear it. But I'm also 42 going on 43.

Like, I'm not supposed to. So if that's not from my ear, yeah, let's rock with that. Let's see where that go. You see what I'm saying? And like he said, I wanted to hear it again and, like, get an understanding. Now, I ain't going to lie. SETI shit I liked off top. It wasn't, though.

He made the type of music I listened to. But there's other artists that, per se, like, that are huge right now, that I remember the first time I heard it. I was like, eh, but I was open enough for myself to understand, like, you know. Growing. Yeah, everybody is different. That's what I was about to ask. What's more important?

The music that they're currently displaying or the star power. Some motherfuckers, they might not be where they need to be musically, but they are certified star. Right. Well, I think that's interesting because what a star is now is different from what it used to be, like what we think a star looks like or sounds like or how a star comes like comes in that form. So, you know, that in the sense is,

that makes it in different when you hear people's music because there's a lot of musicians now in 2021 or even the last couple of years that people might not say look like a star off top, you know what I mean, like, or just how they come in. So, you know, the music speaks volumes in a sense at itself, You know what I mean? Like, I mean, look at our, like, in Cardi, for an example, like, you know,

like from where she started as, you know, on Instagram and her personality, like she had the personality of a star, period. But it wasn't, the music wasn't attached to it. So in her sense, you know, that work where star power overpowered enough to where the music kind of caught up per se. But somebody you missed on somebody that you heard and had the opportunity to jump on You were like, I don't know. There's a couple.

That happened. There's a couple. They give them one. You ain't gotta give one there, man. I really wanted to sign Torrey Lanes. Ah. And, you know, me and Tori got a great relationship. But I also don't know if I feel like things work out, how they're supposed to work out.

So, yeah, so, you know, that was before we kind of had Generation Now, kind of moving, and, you know what I mean? So it worked out how I was supposed to. Generation Now, what did that name come from? That name was actually a mixtape that made. That name was actually a mixtape. me and Kenan came up with because we was doing a tape with this new guy that wasn't really gangster grillish but like he had some shit to him and he was a producer and he gave me some drops to host this tape and then I was like damn like we work with this guy it's saying gangster

grills we call it something else and me and Kenan was like so Kanye West is hosting the tape the new nigga and then we was like let's call a generation now so the first generation now has Kanye and Joe Button on the cover that was a mixtape we did in like 0304. You just got, don't skip over that shit. You know, Kanye West, that was the new nigger. Damn. Generation, the first Generation Now mixtape we ever did, was hosted by, was by Ye. And this is like before college drop out and all that shit.

Damn, man. So the name literally comes from his movement of what he was, what I envisioned at the time. And, you know, just Generation Now, like, this is what's up next. Like, this is right now. And then I literally said, we sat on the name for years until it was time to, like, start the label. And it was like, you know, Generation Now is perfect for what. we represent. You lost a lot of music, right?

Yeah, at times. I'm saying like when that shit happened. Yeah, when the raid happened, yeah. Hell yeah. So what was some of the shit that you had that you... That's gone in the wind. Some Wayne versus... Damn, what songs?

It was a couple songs, but on the other side, what I didn't have at the time was the Outcast record. I had been trying to get Andre to fuck with me for, like, the last, like, seven, eight months, because they agreed to do a song for me. Because we were supposed to do a mixtape. We were supposed to do Alcass Gangster Grills. And then they got kind of busy.

But they was like, yo, we'll give you a record for your album. And I was like, all right, bet. So I started sending Dre, like, beats literally from everybody that was anybody in the game. And he was, like, passing on him. So then after this, the raid happened, I went to Cannon. I was like, yo, can you, well, Canada had made this beat for me that was kind of similar to something else that was out by Jim Jones at the time. So I went to Marsha Ambrosis.

I was like, listen, I need a hook that's going to be like, yo, nothing can stop us. Like, we can't be stopped. Like, you know, we're going to still be here. She banged this shit out. And I sent her the three stacks. And, like, literally, he was like, yo, I'm going to hit you back tomorrow. And he sent me this fucking verse for the artist storytelling for, you know, for this record I got with him and big. And it was like, I just, you know, that's my favorite group of all time.

Right. You know, Andre 3000 is literally the goat. Outcasts are the goats. You know, just to have him on my record, my debut album, and for that song to come out, it was like, this shit's crazy. The universe again. It's crazy. It's probably some FBI agent son around. Got some shit, right?

All unreleased Wayne versus. You ever heard this, bro? Get in the car, bro. Get in the car, bro. I got something he had never heard, bro. Thanks to grills, bro. It's a fucking car, bro. He said, hey, bro, you're listening to rap.

Take these. That's funny. Black guy. And mine, I know, no pot. That's funny. What was that surprise? Like, what was this? surprise person that hit you that you never thought would want to be a part of your series.

Well, they're in the artist name. That came to you. I'm saying, like, motherfucker. You want to fuck with me? Um, I mean, I know this is probably like a literally, this is not politically correct right now, but when Kel's called to do a gangster grill, like, that was, I was like, this thing, R. Kelly wants to do a gangster grill? Yeah, they want to do it against the grill?

Yeah, that's the one that had that sex or lyrics on it. Yeah, I remember that Texas Olympics. That was one of my favorite. I wasn't going to say nothing, but since you said it, fucking. What? That was my shit. I ain't going to hold. You know what I said?

That shit was cold, man. Was that the Lamaid? Nick, the whole shit was amazing. Yeah, it was fire. Yeah, that definitely was one. Like, when you get the old songs and them artists that's legendary already, and you get them, and now it's up to you to put your spin on it and put your flavor on it, is it more pressure when it's a legendary artist?

Oh, yeah, 100%. That's a lot of pressure. I also know they come to me for that reason, like, you know, I mean, they reach out because they know I'm the bells and the whistles. Like, my kitchen is better than everybody's kitchen. Like, I'm chef boy, R. Drum, you feel what I'm saying? Like, they come with the chicken. I put that bitch in the oven. I turn that bitch in 375, like, my seasons is impeccable, you know, so when I deliver it, they're like, oh, this is Burt.

This is a little bit of it. Like, this shit disgusting, nitty do it over. Like, you know what? GZ mixtapes. So, every time me and G. would do a tape. I was so used to him, like whatever intro I did, I know he was going to come to me and be like, yo, you got to come harder. You gotta come harder. So what, so a couple times like, that's great. We ain't got no shirt. So get your ass up. So a couple times when we did tapes, the first time I would do it, I wouldn't give my awe because I knew I was going to have to do it again. So I would just say some shit. And then I go in, he's like, you got to come harder. And I'm like, all right, Pat, let me put the real shit on there now.

So even if you was to just be like, you know what? I'm going to put some of my eye shit. And he'd be like, boy, that shit was hard. You're like, hold up. I really want to do something else. Yeah, I kept it dead. I'm like, all right, but I'd say this shit for something else. Say no more than.

SETI, like, what you being a newer artist, like, is it pressure on you knowing that there's so much history behind who you working with? Like, or you already had that, you know, that major influence or want to just be great or do that motivate you more? Bro, this niggas snuck in the studio. You think he didn't think he feels any pressure? He didn't worry about this, gang. He asked for his life.

Exactly. Like, I knew what came with, knowing that, especially coming from Jacksonville, Florida, like, I already knew what I was signing up for. Like, I, you know what I'm saying? I knew to separate myself. I knew I was going to be, he wasn't feeling to take no bullshit.

Like, if I was going to come with him trying to sign it, I also had to come with it. You know what I'm saying? And know that. You see what? So when you realized that that moment was like, I, this is it. This is all I work for. I have to go crazy. We're in the studio and Joe like, matter of fact, Joe, Joe, Joe, go in the

Joe. Hey, that's the new winning Joe, man. Bob on that Joe. You're living up to the name. When it Joe's going to go. And Joe in there like, hey, you feel me, I'm supposed to be popping in. You feel me, da-da-da-da-da-da. So just, you know what I'm saying? You feel me, gave me a little prep.

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Hold the mother. You know, those bitch is real. Oh, my father. That's up. Yeah, man, he heard Samar on that bitch. He, uh. Yeah, though. He heard music first time.

I was just like, man. Yeah, it was cold. From the very first time you heard it, you were. Like, first time? Yeah, said he was like my favorite. Like, in rap. Gang shit. Game shit.

That's right, too. That's dope. That's dope. I'll do you here, fool. I just turned 25, January, Red, 20. I bought 19, 96. That was it. 90, baby.

90 baby doing their thing. You hear me. Let me ask you this. Somebody might be watching this that ain't never heard none of your music. Like, why do they need to hear it? So for reality street music. Okay.

I represent. I'm going to learn something. I'm going to drop some jewels. I'm going to get you through something. You're going to be able to relate to me. Whether we're talking about the ladies, whether we're talking about the streets, whether we're talking about what's going on in the world. Ladies in the street? All right.

Okay. So what song, if you had to have one song for all those people who don't know you, what song would be the song that you direct them to listen to first to give them that vibe of what you're talking about? Hands down. Hands down. Then what's that? Florida nights. Florida nights. I'm gonna look at it.

I'm gonna look up all that shit. Florida nights go on. I fuck with Florida night. Oh yeah. Oh, I think you're like moving. She just said to me. I listen to the whole bad, that time. Okay, okay, so you're in the game now.

Now you're in the game and you're deaf. It's rap. Who do you look at as like motivation to be like I want to work with just on the artistry, the aesthetics of it. You feel what I'm saying? Right now? Right now.

Right. I'm gonna keep it all. I'm gonna keep it. Honey. Brett Fires. Who? Brett Fires. Got said, right?

Did I say it correct? Yeah, yeah. I think it's, yeah, Brent Fives. I don't know if it's Brent Fives. The way he moved, like, the way he moved with it. Right. The way he, even though, from Instagram to the way he pushed itself, like everything, he laid, yada, you don't know how he's coming, but you know he's coming.

He coming. For sure, for sure. That's how I've been moving my whole time in the industry, and I peeped that in him. So, you know what I'm saying? That right, too. Okay. If you could do a song with one legend, who would it be? Michael Jason.

There you go. Hell yeah. Brother, Michael Jason, we're cold this motherfucker than ever. I wasn't going to say two pop, but, you know what I'm saying? Same thing. Yeah, same thing. Michael make you go in there and do that shit again. I don't like it.

Dirty, Dirty. I don't like it. Why, Mike? I just don't do it again. How do you want to say it, be you? I swear, I was looking at Duddy, Diana. It might be in fuck, man. Dirty Diana, one of the hardest.

Trauma, call him a doo-Doo head. Can you talk your talk, DJ Trama? You'd love to do a mic with Jackson gangster grill. What? What? Oh my God. A Tito Jackson. No.

Tito just coming in trying to do it himself. Yeah. I might have passed on the Cheeto. Yeah. My bad, Tito got it. Tito got a bag. It's the shit out you down. Tito got a belt that still do this shit.

Ha! Ha! Ha! Like, the nigga, all the fuck. Is there any, like, the speaking of, artists like young artists like do you do you have to tune out your own personal liking the music to get into the young people should i hear a lot of guys who've been in the game a long time say that like i can't get into that shit like so how do you know i mean i don't know if it's because i'm a dj or what but i i feel like i'm i've navigated gracefully through like

through music in a sense where you know it might not be what's from my golden era per se what i listen to but I love new shit I'm addicted to new shit I always have been so and I'm thankful for that because it keeps me it keeps me feeling fresh and vibrant and you know like and you know I ain't like they keep me young you feel what I'm saying so I don't got to run around and try to be 21 or 25 I can but I fuck with a lot of young niggas so you know I can stay in the mix but a lot of this shit that's come out to me is you know it's hip hop like it it ain't all it might not all be for my ear but I get it you know I'm saying so I probably I probably listen to more young niggins shit than most people my age per se.

I mean, I don't know. I said in the music business, I feel like you have to. If you don't, like, this just ain't it for you. Yeah, the game will pass you back. Hip hop is a young man's sport, so it's just different. I think every, every genre and every, what you want to say, generation had this time. Yeah, you got to. Man, I don't want to hear that shit.

You feel what I'm going to look at all the history. Even with the Tupac and Biggie, it was the time. Man, I don't want to hear that shit. See, so we got to, we, is. in that time right now, but we just got to embrace it. A lot of people don't understand that that's always been the point of, you know, hip-hop music. You're not supposed to like the shit that your parents like. So even if your parents like hip-hop, you're not going to like the same shit.

You know, that's like the blues to, you know. But I think that gap should be bridged. Like what you said, the perspective you have is dope because the older people who have that music and the younger people, if we had a more open mind and, you know, the game would be open. And, like, I see all the rock and roll artists that can still go out and sell out arenas. You know what I mean? To this day, and they, 60, 70 years old, but for something to be, for a hip-hop artist, I mean, get your old ass all the stage.

Nobody way that shit, man. Fuck wrong with your old ass, nigga. Everybody went in that old hit a hip-ed-de-hopper-ish-year-old. You know what I mean? Like, I think, and then in the same way, with the older generation, where they say, man, nobody want to hear that shit as fuck as you said. He's just moaning on the track. That shit sounds stupid.

Like, if we could bridge that. gap like I think that you know it helped our music last long I agree we appreciate it right I appreciate me I definitely agree to that I didn't listen to that rock and road bullshit you're gonna be out of that in the monocan shit why he's yelling to check the whole point they hurt you're screaming you screaming this this ain't all this is a mother shit it's a mother they got salute if y'all make the they got they make the same type of music figures like they just sound They got the strip club music.

Girls, girls, girls, girls. That's their shit, yeah. Pour some sugar on me out. Yeah. That's art. That's art. That's art. That's art.

They're talking about the other shit. They're talking about the other shit. They're talking about. They do. It's just in a whole different. It's an up tempo. It's real fans. Slow the fuck down.

You ever want to do a rock and roll game for girls? I think I did one. Me and Canada did one. I forget the name of the group. Lankin part? Nah, I forget the name of the group, but they kind of know, no, no. I got to ask Cannon about that. What genre would you jump into, if you could?

Like, one that you haven't done that you think would be dope for you to... Oh, definitely in the Latin genre. Oh, sure. You do some techno? I don't think techno exists anymore. You look like a Puerto Rico. What is that? Daddy.

Yeah, okay. Daddy Yankee. Techno, the old nigger version of EDM? Yeah. What that shit back day the Yankee? I don't think they hurt the motherfucking gasoline, nigger. Who that I got suddenly? No, no, no, no, nigga, said in English.

Yeah, I ain't did none. I ain't did none in the Latin world. In the Latin world. Yeah, that's fine. Yeah, we putting that out there. All the Latin ones. Ragged tone. It'll be a dope that gangster grills, man.

It's a legendary series. Come get you one. They got this Latin rapper. He's blowing up right now. What's his name? Nah. He's on. The one Jay Z just gave him.

What's the name? Oh, Jay Balvin? Yeah, he kept. I was fired. Jay Balvin is huge. He just did some shit with McDonald's, if I'm not mistaken. So, niggas is big. That's what they.

Well, shit, man. Shit, this, this, d'nagia ain't no exit, d'clock. It ain't nothing like, just go over. Yeah, man, this shit can go on forever. Right, it's not, the history is just. 500 to 1,000 gangsta grills. What's your favorites? It's all, man.

Damn, that R. Kelly, that's one of mine. Dedication, dedication, three. Dedication three. What's the one with the red and he was leaning on the car? Black or white? It got red in the way. He leaned on the car. They all got red.

I think, I don't know. He had the big-a-pants on that long-a-bilt hanging all. You're like, God, done. I told you my two. I'd like, slick, pulled up a macbonny. The one with T.I. All tips shit. Where he said that line.

He said, I'm Huey Newton with a, what he said? I'm Huey Newton with a PhD or maybe Martin Luther King with a GAT. That's one of the hardest lines. I think that was down on the king. Ever, nigger. Let me see him sweatsuits? I got some sweatsuits for y'all. Welcome back.

Yep. Yep. Really neat. You know I bought some clothes, dick. Hell yeah. Hell, yeah. Hey, nobody has borrowed the clothes. What you got?

Newface actually brought some games to real. That's Willie Joe, by the way. Willie Joe. Willie Joe. We get a good. Hey! My brother, yeah, that's a real nickel with it too. My man, Dufels, actually brought some gangster grill.

Some real, oh yeah. Oh, it's a lot, yeah. This is my guy right here. I know he, glassy. I spoke about this moment, right? Oh, shit. Ozone magazine. Yeah, this after they, uh,

before it was the gangster grill. Yup. Welcome to the Stravaganza. He said he got paid for. This take. but I was still moving them on campus myself when I did this one. That's one of my ones too

that blue eminaries. That's public album. Run around the lobby. Oh yeah, that's my first album. One new favorite, we're gonna get you in a museum, man, Willie the Kid first shit. Willie. Willie the Kid?

Yep, remember Willie the Kid. That was our first artist. What Willie the Kid from? He from Michigan. I thought Willie the Kid was from St. Louis. No, he from Michigan. Classic. Oh, yeah.

This where I came-in-time. That's where I came over with Mr. Thanksgiving on that one. Look that boy. Man, how you ain't got no dust or nothing on these motherfuckers, man? The bird friend. Oh, the birth friend was classic. Oh, yeah, that's a classic. Damn, look how long my shirt was.

Yeah, look how long the chain was, me. Fuck. What did it was? Affiliants, nigger! It's like 07. He didn't made 2007. Was this the beef? They was giving them out of adventures.

Oh, damn. This one, they were beefy? Yeah, probably so. Who? With Lou there, too. Uh, yep, I was around that time. Yes, sir. Damn.

Oh, you did both of the disc train, then. Nah, I just was, I was rock. I was, I was, I was, grand hustle at that time. Right, right, right, right. I was, damn, it's classic. Get you up. Oh, yeah, go ahead. What does it feel like to see all this work?

Like, does this put it in perspective for you of how much work you to blaze down? Yes, it's pretty, uh, it's pretty humbling and inspiring and just, you know I'm appreciative but it's like I was telling somebody even back in my my goal I remember thinking like all right niggie you got here how you stay here because by this it's the product right right it's okay well I mean that's why you're right right around the corner they say yeah yeah they're like all this shit's right around some of the bootlegs are actually the real cop that's what I'm saying like the how was how did that work would you I would let them rock I didn't give a fuck because the more bootlegs just men the more

people they want more people wanted it so for me it was like man the more the merrier flood the streets with that shit that's what i used to always anytime i used to see buligs i would get excited i'll be hype well we'd be crazy to hell if we'd ask you what advice would you give somebody who's trying to get into the music business i know a lot of people who ask you like young artists and producers and shit like that honestly man i just think i think everybody should just trust the process you know i'm saying like you know we all stay the course you got to stay the course and you got to you know if you really and you're passionate about it and you know like you know it's definitely important to have good people around you you know and when i say good i don't want to put too much definition on that

because good can come in a lot of different ways and you know i'm saying and and i just think it's important to have real people around you in some form of faster nobody does it alone you know know that you're going to have missteps and know you're going to have ups and downs and everything but i just think in today's day and time like it's you know there's so many different we have so an abundance of so much but it's also a blessing like when I was coming up or a kid I didn't

all we had was the radio at 10 o'clock where I could hear rap shit and catch Rap City and yo MTV Raps other than that I just had to wait till the next time like we have everything

we have y'all podcasts we got other podcasts we got you go on YouTube look up your favorite video so with that being said it's just you know there's no reason why you can't create opportunities

or find creative ways and anything And, you know, you've got to walk a fine line. Like, there's a fine line between being persistent and annoying, you know, when you're trying to get your business off and introduce yourself to people. But, yeah, man, more than anything, I just say, like you said, walk the course and trust the process, you know, and do it because you love it. And then, you know, make something with, it means something to you.

Like, I think about so many things. Just in Atlanta alone, like, Atlanta's such an amazing city of how many people have come from this city, just really try to impress their neighborhood. And it turned into, like, global stars and made these records that, like, You feel what I'm saying like I think about a record like swag surfing all the time like in a million years They ever think like that that was going to become what it became like to the extent and represent what it represented So you know Tom will tell man That's a little to you for having a hand in all of that now

You played a major part and all of this coming together This is like you know what I mean see I just know for me seeing all of these CDs and just remember and you know the CDKs and just remember and you know the CDK and riding and going through and then you get that new that new gangster grills man and when they go on the cd player it just you know you're about to hear something that's going to make you not go home straight away like i got to ride around for a little bit because i got to hit this in the car like and that's amazing man salute to you bro good looking y'all you and dj envy talk yeah that's my guy all right yeah we found him about that shit all the time we go up there yeah we always fuck with him yeah man you know we're always good yeah not I mean, we definitely fuck with them. Every time we go up there, you were sitting over that bitch. Like, Emily, what's wrong, man? Okay, I'll talk about it. So like I said, you know, we're right into it.

Yeah, we fuck with them up there, man. Let me tell you all, and congratulations to y'all and salute to everything that y'all is doing. Thank you, brother. You know what I'm saying? Kudos. I know, skies and limits. You know, incredible things, man.

You know, we supporters, we fans, whatever y'all need a line. And for sure. We'll close us out this well, man. Come on. One time. Hey, yo, listen, man, once again, man. It's the 85 South show.

Y'all know what the fuck is going on. Shout to Setti Hendrix Generation Now is here. Loso. We have this. B.C. You did. I mean, what you want to tell him? What I want to tell him?

Chico. What I want to tell him? Shit, nigger. We got the motherfucking international gangster grills coming, featuring DJ drama. Whoever come and me, I'm speaking. Spanish on that bit. You speaking Spanish?

And like that? We're going! And we go! And we go! Oh! Oh! Oh, I got this. Oh, I appreciate you.

My nigga. That shit, always. Wow. Damn. Come on, shoddy. All right. You ain't got a shit in there through your nigga. Huh?

I got one more. Huh? One more? Yeah. There's one bad for, man. Go ahead. Do you thing. You know, I went around with that show you, that shit you did

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