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Yeah, I got a Ph.D., man.
Hell yeah.
And I'm studying little aerospace technology on the side.
This is independent.
Yeah.
Biopchemistry.
Okay.
rocket propulsion type shit.
I'm talking to the people at
SpaceX about possibly
getting in the program.
Rocket propulsion is the next level, son.
Yeah, that's where I'm at with it.
Niggas ain't up on that.
White niggas don't even know about this shit.
Rocket propulsion, that's the...
They've got different levels of different type of...
You already say, I'm not a rocket scientist.
Most definitely.
Propulsion is the next level.
Exactly.
And not too many niggas know a propulsion nigga.
See?
That's what I'm saying.
I'm already out of niggas league
when they come to the burbush.
I already been studying, like, aerodynamics and shit
for, like, last couple summers.
Only summers?
Yeah, I ain't be busy throughout the year.
Right.
So I wake up early and I fuck with it.
I say that for the summer.
I got time for it in the summer.
They go to aerodynamic summer school.
Yeah.
You feel me?
You feel me?
You can learn airflow.
That's what I'm saying.
And it's all about how you manipulate the digestive tract.
Fuck up.
Oh.
I hope motherfuckers is ready for what we're about to do today, man.
Because you might not know this, but let me give you an 85 South Show quick fact.
What's the quick fact?
Donnell Robbins is one of the first guests that I ever had on the show.
He was in the office, son.
Exactly.
As soon as I came in here, I said to come up is real, digger.
Most definitely.
It was an office with no smoking signs and shit.
Couldn't do what the fuck I needed to do and get my shit done.
But you know, shout out to Steve Hart.
for not charging us no rent.
Yeah.
We was using that space for free.
My nigga Joe sacrificed his whole job for that, man.
That's how you got to do.
You got to jump up this.
Hell yeah.
Had this shit not been successful, Steve probably would have sued him.
He'd been smoking weed out of a pipe.
Yeah.
But he don't want, he wasn't using this shit.
He'd get off at five.
What, in this space?
No, I'm saying, back then.
Oh, yeah.
So I got one of my original OG guests on the show today.
Come on, man.
O.G.
This is the full circle.
Yes, sir.
And I told you when you came to the office then that it was going to happen.
We manifested this shit.
And it was like, I mean, I like to see to come up.
But as soon as I walked there, I was like, hmm, it's a lot different.
And it's like, a lot of times people don't see your vision.
Y'all always knew what your vision was.
Yeah.
And instead of like, blah, my, my, not what we're going to do?
Y' motherfuck didn't.
So, you know, this is an era in a time where giving them motherfuckers they fly away.
So you got to get 85.
to stop the house.
Hell yeah.
Oh, man.
Took it from an office.
Yeah.
Nick, it was not our office.
We weren't supposed to be there.
A spot.
This nigga was not supposed to be there.
Nobody's supposed to be there.
This nigga was opening the door and letting us in and act like you didn't see it.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
Like, niggins try to make it sound like Steve was like, yeah, come on.
No, sir.
The fuck going on?
No, dude.
We was doing this shit for months before Steve even knew the shit.
Steve walked in one night.
What the hell going on?
What the hell going on?
You niggas, you niggas think y'all smart.
Y'all think y'all slick.
The camera must not have been on, Slater.
He said, nigga, the camera was off like my mother.
He was in the hallway.
He walked out and said it.
Yeah.
He definitely didn't say it on camera.
But they don't know.
Steve Harvey, a gangster.
Oh, he talked that shit?
Oh, yeah.
He talked that shit in between the family views.
I'm pretty sure he does.
When that camera, yeah, cut,
be right back to it.
You got to get it all out.
That's the only way.
you gonna be able to be clean on TV.
You gotta cuss.
You gotta get them cuss words out.
Motherfuckers, they never cuss.
Like that Bill Cosby shit, right?
See, you could have said people right there,
but you said motherfuckers.
And it's more motherfuckers than there are people.
Yeah.
Yeah, way more.
Hell yeah.
Because you didn't walk there to spot.
There's a lot of motherfuckers people in here.
A lot of motherfucking people here.
There's a lot of motherfuckers people here.
They don't never see it, but it's like 15 motherfuckers.
everybody working.
This light.
This light.
Oh, I can't,
the crew don't come off with me, y'all like shit.
It's like, no.
Who on the, who comes to the day?
Nah, I'm taking the day off,
dick.
Don't I got some sick leave or something?
I ain't fuck with that assy-assie-ass,
dude.
It's the crew.
Normally it'd be more people
that we don't,
a lot of time,
we don't know who.
I almost fired Thad a couple weeks ago.
Because I finally seen
how that nigga right.
That nigga white.
He right like one of the little rascals
and shit.
He had the,
Our back was like Toys R Us, it was Donnell Rob.
I was like, bro, you're trying to get the fuck out of here, me.
We got in the back with the art.
Hell yeah.
Then he didn't even put Donnell.
This nigga put Darnell.
And I was like, who the fuck is Darnell?
That's racist.
Anybody say Darnell is a racist motherfucker.
And they bought them new MAGA, the MAGA sweepers.
They're darned.
I was like, I'm...
But if you're a bitch, it's just say Dunnell, I like that shit.
It could be Lou Nell, brother.
How do you say, you say, it did Zunel?
I am liking the D.S. I like that shit.
My nigga, you was out there
when I came out to the summer camp.
You was canoeing and all kind of shit.
I was a river nigger, son.
River nigger.
I was a river nigger, but then that was a little too tough,
so I said, let me break it down to the River Ninja.
But I had a good time.
We was in the cornfields for two years doing shows
or nobody was doing shows.
Right.
Doing stuff that nobody was doing.
I tell people all the time,
they was like, well, how was 2020 for you?
Like, financial was probably the one.
university as I had, but mentally, in a piece, it was dope, man.
We was out there, and it was even hard to tell people how much fun we was having
because, like then, people was critical of the choices you made.
You couldn't post a picture without a mask going.
Oh, look at this nigga.
He don't give a fuck about my grandmother.
He out here breathing, no motherfuckers.
He could have that shit, give it to my aunt.
She got diabetes.
You just killed my motherfucker's aunt, right?
But we had, we was lucky enough that we had testing when we was out there.
He was bad at death.
They was like, oh, it must be.
It would be nice to have rich friends that can afford to test people.
I was like, you're absolutely right.
And we was out there living until you came out there.
We tried to give you COVID.
Nah, but he showed up, this shit got shut down.
It wasn't you.
It wasn't.
You came.
You came.
Did you come twice?
I came one time.
You came one time.
And the time you came is when the bubble got busted.
Man, I say that.
What happened?
Somebody had COVID in there?
We had like 59 shows.
The summer was over.
And we had a clean, we had a clean record.
The whole summer was over.
summer's over. Dave, greedy-ass, he wanted to do more shows. I'm like, let's just end with
it with being right now. He extended another week, and the next week he extended it. That's when
the bubble. It was when you came. That's when the bubble. I have shit to do with that down there
the way that you said. You do you keep saying it like he brought it. You brought that shit up. Yeah,
it came with you. Nah, it was unfortunate because I knew how excited. I wanted you to get the whole
experience and you came and I, you stayed one day. Did you even see the show? Did you see a show?
Yeah. That first night. Yeah. And then I was supposed to take him on a river because we was, we were
do activities and shit.
So wait a man, you was like, from what I saw online,
it looked like you was the...
Camp counselor.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You was really taking people.
I was like the camp counselor, because we,
everybody was here, but then we didn't really, like Dave's wife was our,
used to plant activities.
Like, she'd be like, oh, today we're going to do sipping paint, right?
Nobody wanted to do that shit.
And we went on a river one day, and I fell in love of that shit, man.
That river was so goddamn peaceful, and I was like this.
I'm just going to control this.
I roughed the whole river shit out.
And as much as many shows we did, everybody, they liked the shows, they liked the other stuff,
but everybody was dope, everybody was excited about going in the river.
Got damn Chris Rock flute, rolled down the flute, floated down the river.
And what, you're just in a canoe?
By yourself, everybody on their own?
You either can get a kayak or a canoe.
I started with kayaks, but I like the canoe better because you can have somebody in there.
Yeah.
But, I mean, Taliban, the funny thing is to see hood niggas in the fucking canoos and shit.
They don't know nothing about that shit.
Talib showed up with some motherfuck of Timzo on this shit.
That name was Brooklyn and Sheld them fucking you're going to do with him in a canoe like this.
But Kid Rock fucking floated down the river.
Everybody.
Yeah, that was, well, Kit Rock flew down there when he floated down the river.
And, you know, people have questions about him.
And it was funny.
Yeah, I was about to say.
He was like, and I would.
And I would have elbowed that, motherfucker.
That's interesting, man.
Oh, accidentally.
You would have bumped him or hurt him.
One of them.
One of them, all their elbows that make white people turn.
My bad.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
But he rolled down the river.
man, I feel like I've been on this river for 30 minutes.
I feel like I had 12 hours of anger management.
So everybody went down.
It was definitely something zen
and something peaceful about going down the road.
It was dope.
Man, this is what he wanted to you.
Man, Dave Chappelle all the whole fucking town.
Most of it, yeah.
That's what I heard.
This motherfucker on the whole town, right?
And that's Yellow Springs?
Yeah, Yellow Springs, yeah.
Hell yeah.
Every time I tried to pay for some shit,
they said it was all ready to take care of.
Whole Airbnb.
I went to the pieces shop
to get some pieces, they were like.
They might have thought you was going to rob them too,
because there ain't a lot of niggins of yellow strikers.
Why would I be the nigga out there robbing, my fucking?
I think any nigga that pull up in any of those stores,
they would say that.
They owe them.
It ain't enough for y'all, so we can give you something when you come to.
They ain't got nothing to do with the hoodie.
That's like a uniform for robbery right there.
White people see a hood.
They were like, oh, my God, I'm getting nervous.
And they're the main ones to wear hoodies, though.
Yeah, but we...
Now, if you saw a white dude with a motherfucking hood on,
you'd be terrified.
Because you probably
gonna start rapping.
Or blowing up shit.
Or shoot.
Anytime a white dude wear a hoodie,
then that's when your fucking filler
should go up.
That looks suspicious as fuck.
And a white dude with a bald head.
White dudes are baldhead usually
try to date black women.
That's the outfit.
White dudes with fades try to fuck black women.
White dudes with ballheads and hoodies.
Yeah.
They try to embrace.
They like black chicks.
They try to lean into it.
They want to switch.
Dr. Umar said he wanted to swim in the milk.
I didn't go bald.
That's what he said.
I chose this.
Swim in the milk.
Oh yeah, that's me.
You know, Dr. Umah got all the phrases.
You can't fucking white chicks, you bunny hopping.
I don't know if you got to do this to get through the white vizers, but you bunny hopping.
And then if it was a black chick, the fuck with white men, she's swimming in the milk.
I didn't make these, sir.
So he just be coming up with all kind of shit.
Yeah, he got different, they get different.
But swimming in the milk and bunny hopping is a...
Bunny hopping is the most popular shit.
You know, probably saying shit like that
probably get him more white women than
anything. No, he won't get caught with a white chick.
He won't get caught with him, but I'm sure
he'd be knocking him off here and there.
That'll fuck his whole brand up, sir.
You think a nigga ain't going to risk it.
They would revoke his dashikis if he did that, sir.
Hey, man, if you were expert on anything,
you got to look at it.
I don't know, but Dr. Umar, I'm pretty sure
he'd stay away from the pink toads.
pink toes that's what they call
you don't know these terms yeah I heard of
pink toes
where what if I don't know fucking
social clubs are you a part of
pink toes like camel toes
yeah but they're pink
because white too they call it pink toes
no white women actually have pink feet
I didn't get that far
I just stay up close to the vaginal hair
oh man I'm telling you it's different degrees
of white people too
it's different degrees
some translucent white people
them really white people ain't even really white people
that's like an offshoot of white people
You're talking about the red-haired white people?
That is like a subculture of white people.
Yeah, you're not supposed to call them ginger, like niggas, right?
I don't think black people would be using a term like that.
Ginger, but not ginger.
Oh, you got to take the e-all.
I said, I'm ginger.
I said ginger.
What's up, my ginger?
You'd be like the motherfucker that said,
a nigga in the classroom.
Jidja, what's up, my ginger?
I said, well, sit,
down. Ginger. You got to be very specific with that. Don't go too far with that lotion.
I'm going to dry up soon. Lead a lotion. Lead a lotion, man. Come on, man. Ash Larry.
Ashter Lawrence. It's a new one. Oh, Asper Lawrence. Let's go.
Oh, before we even do this shit, I got to say this. Welcome back to the eight five
stuff show. Yeah. I ain't want to hit him with it until somebody said the magic word.
You know what the magic word? Uh-uh. The.
The magic word or phrase of the day is Ashford Lawrence.
Ashford Lawrence.
Ashford Lawrence.
He even laughed.
He laughed like this.
Listen here, man.
We got a special guest in the house with us today.
Literally in the house.
Do you see this refrigerator we got?
We are, this is becoming more and more of a goddamn, uh.
Look at the microwave, bitches.
Why?
Because.
Because why not?
We could have got an air fry.
Fuck that.
microwave these bitches.
But what I'm saying is, I got one of my OG guests here.
He's been all the way back to the Steve Harvest Studio.
He got a hell of...
The office, I didn't know it was the studio.
Exactly.
The studio shit upstairs, but we just...
Yeah, I went up and there that first time.
I was like, okay.
But if you could feel the energy, you could feel something that's blowing up,
you could feel it that it was some people that was passionate about it.
Exactly.
Look from the office to a whole goddamn goddamn fucking production spot.
Look around.
A whole studio.
New Netflix special on the way.
Out.
Out right now.
You go watch it right now.
This is going on their shit.
Huh?
They're watching it right after the interview.
Oh, they might have watched it before because he's out.
Birds flying high, you know how I feel.
Come on, man.
Breeze drifting on by how I feel.
It's a new dawn.
It's a new day.
It's a new life for me.
You know him as Ashley Larry.
I call him
Motherfucking Donnell Robbins
in this bitch.
New Day.
Here with us today.
And I'm feeling good.
Yeah.
Bye-da-da-da-da-da.
Congratulations, my daddy.
You got the special out?
Yes.
You said you shot that motherfucker a couple times
so you got it how you wanted it?
Yeah, it was like about two years ago,
Dave came to me.
And this was after we had worked these shows
in the cornfield.
You came out to a couple of...
Yeah, came out.
It was interesting because people always think that, uh, people would think that I came to Dave,
like, could you produce my special?
He saw me rocking night after night at the cornfields, and we had already toured together,
but it was just something different about the cornfields because it was a challenging audience.
It was difficult audience.
It was a difficult time.
And then he really got to connect with my set.
And he was like, Donna, I want to produce your special.
I'm like, all right, whatever.
We had talked about it.
Um, sometime after that, right at the end of when the pandemic was on his heels,
on his way out.
We shot a special to Charlotte.
It was our first stab at it.
I ripped the show.
Did two shows.
Ripped the show.
Quote a standing ovation.
I'm chest bump and Stan Latham.
Ricky Hughes is excited.
We got it.
And then it was announced
that Dave was producing
a series of specials
called The Home Team,
which included Lunell.
She did hers,
Earthquake, Tony Woods,
and myself.
We got to the point
where we had announced
that these specials are coming out.
It was out in the trade magazines, whatever.
It's coming out.
And maybe like a week after that, I'm all amped like,
oh, I'm finally getting a special out.
He called me, and I was about to go on stage in Baltimore.
He called me.
He said, Donnell, I hate to tell you this,
and don't get upset.
I said, well, he said,
but I want to shoot your special over.
And, you know, as a comedian,
if somebody said he wanted to shoot it over,
the first thing you think is it wasn't funny enough.
That's the first thing you're going to think.
You ain't thinking of lightning or nothing.
He said, you ain't think.
I said, I said, why you want to shoot over?
How did I go from the excitement of that night
to you wanting to shoot it over?
And he explained to me, he said, Donnell,
you one of the funniest comedians I know,
I can put you in any room,
and you will rip the room in half.
He said, but don't make it a great special.
He said, out of everybody that I'm producing specials for
because of your relationship with me and the show,
our friendship is that yours is going to be the most anticipated.
He said, if we do it, if we're going to do it,
we got to do it right.
I said, I don't want to put out none of just, okay.
I want to put out some shit that people can watch
years from there some classic stuff.
Yeah.
Right?
And when he told me that, you know, most people would be like,
yo, fuck that, put it out.
But I was like, the check had already cleared.
So I'm like, whatever you want to do,
niggas, is y'all money?
We got to put back up.
Do I got to get this money back?
It's another check.
Yeah.
Nah, it wasn't another check.
Oh, okay.
Now, the check was so big that.
I wouldn't even feel right asking for another one of those.
No, that's why you did it.
You were like, let me go and go.
I wouldn't have felt right.
for no one and then it was like you know the climate we lost half of our audience because
uh netflix turned them away because it was a vaccination car it was just a tough situation period
oh i wasn't even thinking about yeah it was like it was a tough and then another thing he said it's
like it's going to feel old because i did a lot of covid jokes and you could see people with masks
and if we would have shot that dinner came out right now it would have you would have instantly
went to 20 20 you know what i'm saying it would have it would have instantly dated so i'm like i'm like
All right, we're looking for another day.
Maybe a year after that, we was doing some shows in Napa Valley,
and Dave always record all his shows.
So it was me, him and Ricky Hughes, super producer, Ricky Hughes.
We're in the back, Dave said, asked Ricky, how many cameras do we have here today?
Ricky said, I got five cameras.
Dave said, he looked at me and said, you want to do your special again?
I said, when?
He said, tomorrow.
I'm like, who the fuck getting ready for a special in 24 hours?
Right.
I did.
Right.
We did it.
We did it.
Banged out another one.
I called Robbie Proff for Netflix.
I was like, I think we got it.
Because nobody knew we was doing it.
We didn't announce it or nothing.
We was just going to be like on the low, like,
voila, look what we got.
And maybe two weeks after that,
this motherfucker called me again.
He said, I want to do it over.
I'm like, why?
He said, I didn't like the production.
I'm like, nigga, you're the producer.
Is that a form of self-hate?
If you didn't like your own production?
And then he said, like, he didn't like the lighting.
And it wasn't, we just, it was just, we just took a chance.
It wasn't like a production where you know it's going to happen.
We was like this.
If we get it, we get it.
You know, it's a simple, simple set up.
It was super simple.
Nobody knew it was doing it.
And he said, we're going to do it again.
I'm like, man, at some point I was like, I don't think this is ever going to happen.
I was like, well, Netflix and them got of money.
They were like, they hit me off and just say, forget it.
And I started kind of losing faith if we were ever going to get it done
because his schedule was crazy, my schedule was crazy.
Right.
And then last year I was part of New York Comedy Festival, I said, instead of us scouting a venue or whatever, I said, let's just bring the cameras in here.
That was November the 9th.
And I was like, still nervous about it because I was like, this motherfucker going to cancel this one.
But on fucking, what was it, 27th of this month, a new day dropped.
And I'm, I shot in November night?
I shot in November.
Yeah, and I'm happy about it.
That's good shit, man.
Yeah.
And like, we're all in the same business.
Mm-hmm.
And lately, for some reason, specials don't feel like specials no more.
Mm-hmm.
You look at a lot of specials.
It felt like somebody caught a check and they had to dump some jokes.
They were tired of telling these jokes, let me put them out here and get the money.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
It's not like, like, way back in the day, like when it was only one platform, HBO,
when a special came up, because it wasn't that many, you knew it was special.
you knew it was special.
And what you get, like three or four of them a year,
and then the HBO was behind it.
You had dope promos for this shit,
but nowadays it just feels like whatever it is in right now,
that's who's going to get the special.
You're like, just, we need a woman with one titty
and half a leg, and, you know,
that's going to be the special.
It's like what's in the moment.
But I feel, I feel like.
Yeah, before a while,
they were going after a lot of motherfuckers.
And you know what's fucked up.
You know what I meant by that's hypothetical,
but it's going to be a woman
with one titty and half a leg,
swear you was talking about.
I'm trying to cancel me.
Yeah.
I'm the only one titty, one leg,
bitch, tell jokes.
Why he just ain't say a bitch name?
I know he was talking about me.
I know he was talking about me.
No, but I feel good about it.
I feel good.
But another reason I feel good about it
because I've been doing it long enough
and then a lot of people, a lot of fans,
a lot of family, people that have fallen for years,
they always, you know,
when somebody really fuck with you,
and support you, they're like, when you're going to get your special?
So I feel like a new day, it was like an answer for all the people that's been following me.
I got 30 plus years.
All the people that's been seeing me come to clubs, all the people to see me do some of the fucking,
the rawest, most gangster rooms to, oh shit, it's a whole room full of white people right here.
So I think that they're special.
It wasn't just for me.
It was just for people that's been following my career.
I'm like, yo, I want to see him get the opportunity.
But way before I'm rich, bitch.
All of that shit.
It was the Fat Tyrone joke.
It was Fat Tyrone.
That was Def Jam.
That was the first, and then when I did Def Jam, I was doing comedy for six months.
Damn.
The way I got the audition, this is so crazy.
The way I got the audition for Def Jam, Royale Watkins, good friend of mine, right?
He was already signed under Rust Communication.
Bob Sumner was representing him, and Royale was ahead of me in regard.
He'd been doing comedy long to me.
And one day he gave me, I said, I want to do a show with you.
And he gave me his business card.
I'm like, nigga, I ain't want to call nobody.
I want to talk to you.
He gave me his card.
It was Bob Sumner, right?
And I wasn't going to call Bob Sumner to book, Royal.
But what I did was, I took the number and I called Bob's office.
Right?
Chrissy, she answered the phone.
And I act like I already knew Bob.
I was like, yo, this Donnell.
Where Bob at?
Put him on the phone.
She was like, who is that?
I said, well, just tell him to call Donnell when you get a check.
Like I already knew the nigga.
She was like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
I'll get him.
She put me on hold, came back.
Bob, somehow was like, yo, Bob, I just tricked your secretary.
I know I don't know you.
I got this car from Royale.
I just won a shot to audition for Def Jam.
He was like, well, can you come up to Peperman Lounge on Thursday?
I said, I got to say if I can get off work.
He was like, nigga, you got a job?
He said, what type of comedian got a job?
So I had to wait.
Until I got off
I could get permission to leave my job
I went up
I went up to the peppermint lounge
And the peppermint lounge
If you don't know the history
Yeah break that down
Because I always hear that from Bob
The Peppment Lounge
This is when it was Terminal D
There was two places for black comedy
Okay
Peppermint Lounge was basically
It's in Jersey
Prebent Lounge is in Jersey
Terminal D where that's it?
That was in Manhattan by mistake
In my brain I smoke a lot of weed
But um
And then he hands me the joint
But I thought that was the Q.
Pepin Lounge.
Bill Bellamy used to host for it.
Okay.
And that was where you audition.
If you could rock.
If you could rock.
Yeah, that crowd was hard.
If you could rock that crowd at Peppermyn Lounge, then you could rock Death Jam.
And in any given night, anybody could eat it there.
You named some of the best comedians ever performed.
They probably didn't took an L in Peperman Lounge.
It all depends on how the motherfucker's feeling that day.
And I went up there, Royale was hosting that day.
And I was nervous.
I was a comic, I was, I had probably five and a half months of experience under my belt, right?
I was nervous and shit because everybody got afraid of the New York crowd.
I was like, fuck that, they go hard up there.
I want to say, it's supposed to do, like, nine minutes.
I was five minutes into my set, and then Royale came to the side of the stage, and he said,
Bob loves you, you got this show.
I ain't take no chance.
As soon as he said that, I said, good night everybody, because you could fuck around and try to do another joke.
Right.
And you end up getting born, and you fuck it up.
Get out on a laugh.
We learned that down here.
Early.
Six months I was doing it.
And then when I did Def Jam, I thought I had an okay set.
Because the Def Jam era, if you had a catchphrase, right,
or you could have a stand in a note, and you had a phrase or something
that resonated with people the next day, you was everywhere.
I ain't scared of you, motherfuckers.
Pissed off, man.
Pow.
Yo, these big blips in your little dick
It'd be like giving a whale a tic-tac
Adele give us pop
If you had that moment, you were selling out everywhere
I didn't have that moment
I just had a, I thought was considered
A mediocre set
In fact, I would have probably not made the cut
If it wasn't from Michael Blackson
What happened with Michael Blackson?
Michael Blackson
was on the show, he's probably told this on some platforms
Michael Blackson was on the show
Michael Blackson.
It was me,
Saboor,
Jay Anthony Brown,
Michael Blackson,
Wyatt,
the one-man riot,
myself,
like four.
On Def Jam,
three people made the show,
one person was going to get cut.
That's just how it was.
It didn't matter.
Every show.
Every show.
So they only shoot,
they should shoot how many episodes?
Just one?
No, they would shoot.
They shoot probably like four or five episodes
a night.
Same crowd.
Four people performed,
one person is going to get the chopping block.
Right.
Same crowd, same crowd.
Same crowd.
Yeah.
One person gets a chopping block.
And now I look at it, Michael Blackson, some more was in that show, J.B. Anthony, Wyatt, myself.
Michael Blackson was in that show.
Michael Blackson completely motherfucking annihilated this room.
What happened?
I'm going to tell you what happened.
He ripped it.
The nigger got greedy.
He ripped it.
They're going crazy.
They're going crazy.
Now he's going for the killer killer.
And he said, I'm an African.
You know what that means?
That this is a boy, whatever.
In some ways, he said, he said, I have a big dick.
You want to see my big dick?
And a nigga with his pants and pulled out a prosthetic dick,
a big two-foot dick, big old rubber dick, right?
And they was already, don't ever tell you, he'll tell you.
Hold on, man.
They was already, they was already talking about depth jail and was like getting crude.
Like, and they just, like, he did that.
And the crowd went crazy.
that his big dick
that he poured out
cost him
the opportunity to be on death damn
he'll tell you that story
they ain't even just cut in the joke
they just
can't cut the big dick
the editor's like
we ain't gonna be to cut around
that joint say
yep but that
motherfucker fucking dick
you got circumcise this episode
pause this shit man
yeah I'm telling you
he'll tell you that story
that motherfucker
he lit that room the fuck up
Mike
and had he
you were a fool
you were a motherfucker
a fool. Had he? He had a dick
strapped to his dick.
The whole time.
But the thing was... You're stupid. It's
fun. He got that
dick and his dick. Double his
doses. But
when he did, I mean, when I tell you,
that room popped, it was like
it was fucking thunderstorm.
He killed it, though. They lost
it. The rule was, like you said, it was...
No, he was... I'll tell you,
there was nobody
funnier on that show to Mike Blackson.
He killed it already before...
He went for the...
It was already.
He was about...
He could have got off what he'd done.
Yeah, he could have got off what he'd done,
but he was going for the pop-pop and it cost him.
Yeah, well, you be, you know, you guys sometimes...
But it's...
But, you know, it's shit that happened like that to make some people go harder.
You know, he could have looked at it as a lost opportunity,
like fuck the industry or whatever, but just look with himself.
He's positioned itself to be a favorite comic in the country.
Right.
And he didn't let that motherfucker stop me.
He kept going with the shit.
No, shout out Michael Blackson.
I'm on this show.
So he got great, they didn't play Joe set.
Yep, and my set was like, I did,
going back to what you said.
Made it work.
I had two jokes when I first started.
The Fat Tyrone joke, and I had a joke about people still
in the grocery store, because I used to be a security guard
and groceries before I got this.
And when I did that bit, it used to rip at home.
The story is funny.
And I wasn't happy about my set.
I saw Chris Thomas.
After the set, I was like, man, that shit was all right.
He was like, what you're talking about?
said, that shit killed.
I was like, he said, Donna, you got certain,
he said, you got certain shows that resonate in the audience,
but don't resonate in TV.
He said, the set that you had,
it's going to be one where people are going to look at it,
they're going to remember the character,
and they're going to remember the story.
But your brain was set.
I didn't want to hear that shit.
Def Jam was about standing ovation,
kicking it, falling out the cheer.
Oh, shit, running around.
Not that, but then when I thought about it late on,
people still remember it.
But you don't remember half of the people
that was on Def Jam that had the one-liners and shit?
And half of them not even around no more.
Damn.
The fucking up part is they are around.
Well?
Some of them, yeah.
Some of them.
Not a lot of them.
Yeah.
Not a lot of them.
I'm saying in a certain capacity,
and I told this to the other day,
I just had my first special in Netflix.
I'm 56 years old, right?
Right.
I say at 56 years old, I feel like I'm about to blow up.
And the motherfuckers my age that started with me,
A lot of them can't feel that way because they just,
their heart can feel it, but they're not in a position
and they're not working toward that
and they're not making the connections to get that.
It's tough.
Over 30 years?
Yeah.
After 30 years to feel like I'm about to blow up at the 30 years,
I'm supposed to have been blown up.
But now I feel like you blown up, not to the level you wanted.
I don't think the love.
You're trying to go up through that.
I don't know.
I don't feel it.
I don't really feel it, man.
Okay.
I guess the reason why I don't feel it
because I give a fuck about getting better
if that makes no
like I'm still a fan of it
I'm still as long as I've been doing it
I'm still a student of it you know
I'm not obsessed with like fame
or anything I'm obsessed with
writing new jokes I'm obsessed with when I fucking do
you know we do these clubs and shit
when I come back the next year
they don't hear the same joke
I don't I don't really really
connect with that but I do feel
something different with this special though
I feel like, you know, we all know talented people
that don't get to look
or don't get the equal platform
or equal playing field.
Shit, we've been through like,
this motherfucker, he's doing this now.
I'm nice too, but it's who get the platform.
Yep.
You've got to be seen.
Absolutely.
No matter what the motherfucker want to say,
you can say this nigga funny, this nigga funny,
that nigga funny shit, you can say all that type of shit.
But if you want to go out there,
You've got to get the platform for muffles to see what you do.
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Yeah, a lot of them, it's a lot of talent that's just going to be some great local talent
because they're too lazy to lead that motherfucker and build the profile up
and go be seen in the, in the,
them room.
Work that things, man.
Yeah, a lot of motherfuckers hold
their self back with this shit.
You got to go be uncomfortable.
Yep.
You be getting comfortable
at the spot you go to
because you know this one thing.
The more uncomfortable you can get,
the more everywhere
is fucking comfortable.
You know what I'm at ease?
What do you need to do is shut the fuck up
and write some jokes.
That's the first thing.
I mean, I don't know what else to say.
I don't know what else to say.
I don't know what else to say.
Niggas need to shut the fuck up and write some jokes.
There you go, man.
Niggas need to shut the fuck.
the fuck up and get in the streets.
Niggas need to stop talking about what the fuck
they're going to do and go do it.
And niggins need to stop talking about
what everybody else is motherfucking doing
and go and go do it and go do it.
Niggas need to stop making motherfuckers
excuses.
And I ain't talking about anybody in particular,
but it could be somebody in particular.
But motherfuckers...
Who is in the particular?
Not anybody in particular.
Hey, in particular?
No, no.
I don't know who the fuck in particular is.
In particular.
But this nigga, Nicholas particular.
No, particulars.
It's particulars.
It's particulars out here.
They everywhere, son.
It ain't one nigger.
It's a whole bunch of niggas.
That particular niggers that just talk and talk about what another nigger doing and don't want to do it themselves.
Like, motherfucker.
See, now you're going to make me ask you about the shit because we only got to see the fucking cut in.
What happened?
I don't know what you're talking about.
The laugh factory is shit.
I'm talking about particulars, man.
I'm just, I don't know who you do.
I was talking about that particular.
I was talking about all these things out here.
And the first thing about it, you're talking about, okay, particulars in general.
Just all around particulars.
Okay.
And usually these particulars, they talk about everybody else that used to be a particular.
Because you grow from it.
They talk about everybody else.
And these particulars usually go for the most successful motherfuckers.
They usually go for the motherfuckers that's doing it.
They usually go for motherfuckers that broke down walls for everybody.
They usually go on them motherfuckers.
They don't fuck with motherfuckers.
that's like Lord they go for the big dogs and they make excuses for those people
they make excuses oh he got this because it is he got this because he did that
and this is not anyone in particular but this goes for the industry
motherfuckers so often want to sit back and talk shit and don't realize the way you
make it is by have work ethics the way you make it is by doing what the next
nigger won't do and I ain't talk about no sexual shit I'm saying going harder
You got to say this because niggins be taking words and flipping all.
He did this, and that man, he wong-a-wong-wong-up, you know.
I'm thinking this, man.
I'm just trying to touch the world, though, you ain't got to this.
This is all I'm trying to say, man, for all your young actors and comedians that's coming up right now, you don't have to suck a dick to make it.
Can I say it any clearer than that?
Guess how you can make it.
Okay.
You got to kiss no ass, no, no, no.
You ain't got to kiss no ass.
You ain't got to kiss no ass.
You ain't got to take it in the ass to make it.
What you got to do is go hard and have some work ethics
and be motherfucking good at what the fuck you do.
That's what you got to do.
I think of all these things, right?
I'm in here trying to be all calm, man.
I'm sick of these particular ass niggas.
The fuck out my face, man.
Jay-Z said it.
Women lie, men lie.
But none of us don't, you know.
Oh.
No, I'm just sad.
Man, I'm sick of it.
A nigga worked too hard, man.
So what's...
I don't know what you're talking about, son.
It is not one, isn't it?
It's these motherfuckers everywhere.
You've seen them.
You see them.
Comedy game is fucked up right.
No, it ain't fucked up.
It ain't fucked up.
You've seen them.
It's these motherfuckers.
It's these motherfuckers right here.
Always making excuses.
They don't want to fucking put the work in.
Put the fucking work in.
Niggas, stop making excuses
in blaming other shit.
If you look at most motherfuckers
in this business
that are really good,
you could probably,
Carlos, you could probably say,
well, he didn't make it because of this
or didn't happen because of this.
You go of a life's choice.
A lot of times it's drugs, right?
A lot of times it's niggas get caught up
in the bitches.
You know what I'm saying?
You could break it down.
But you tell a motherfucker that's focus.
Like, I get sick of motherfuckers talking.
They do this to Kevin.
And I ain't here to defend it.
They do this to Kevin.
They do this to Dave.
They want to fuck with these.
What you understand is everybody's path is different.
I can't let nobody say, when they say Kevin Hart is a plant and everything.
To me, that's bullshit.
And the reason why I know it's bullshit, when I was doing them nigger rooms,
peppermint lounge and all them type of shit, guess it was in them rooms?
Kevin.
Kevin didn't fucking start doing showcasing the shit.
That nigger was a nigger room.
was doing an impression of monkeys and cabarets and shit.
Wait a minute.
People like, no, he used to one of his best jokes.
He used to do this monkey.
He looked little, so he sold it.
I don't know he did like this or something.
He sold it, right?
I ain't said to a monkey, he'll tell you.
He used to do this thing like this thing.
He had a joke, and it was a monkey courage,
and he did his hands like this, and niggas went crazy.
That's fucking crazy.
They didn't know that this monkey nigger
was going to be an international movie star.
That didn't know monkey business was going to turn in that shit, says.
That he would like this.
He used to do the joke like this.
He used to do like this, sir.
And then he would run.
I don't even, I don't know if he said it.
He said, but he, I don't know if he said it.
It was his joke, nigger.
You look at me like, he might not want you to see it.
I'm like, what?
That nigga, proud of being a monkey.
Yo, he came up being that monkey, nigga.
They didn't know him until he started being the monkey.
Ask anybody.
Ask anybody.
Ask anybody.
Everybody, Kevin Hart first joke, he was a monkey.
I'm not saying this as Rachel.
He was like this.
He would do like this.
Yo, he would do that.
Yo, he would do like this.
This is what he did, digger.
Nick, I'm telling you this.
I didn't look at this, man.
He did like this.
He would do like this.
He would do like this.
And then he'd throw his hands up like monkey hands.
And then he'd do that again.
And then he'd go back over in the corner like this.
That's what he did.
And the nigga blew up.
Yeah, he did that.
He will never do that joke ever again.
If he see this shit right now,
if he with his friends,
guess what they're going to do?
The monkey jokes.
They're going to be like, yeah.
I bet.
I guarantee you,
the niggas like,
when they get mad at him on the Jets,
when they get mad and jealousy like this.
Yeah, we remember you used to do monkey jokes,
nigger.
I don't remember the monkey joke,
but I do remember the ostrich joke.
Here's a point.
The point I'm making,
they try to discredit a nigger hustle.
The motherfucker had enough sense.
He used to do this.
The nigga used to commute from Philly.
They don't, this story they don't tell people.
He used to do the go-hard rooms.
Then he'd go do the mainstream rooms.
He would mix it up.
He used to come.
I remember handing Kevin Hart $75 for a spot.
And he didn't really do that well in the room.
You know what I'm saying?
Because his comment wasn't edgy like that.
He didn't do that well in the room.
But it was just like a brotherhood that we all had the comedians from the D.C. area, Philly and all of us had rooms. We used to swap rooms. You know how it is. You go do a run. And I saw, this is what I'm saying, I saw his hustle, not just hustle for the streets. Not just hustle for the streets. Not just like, I'm in these streets. He was in the streets. But at the same time, he was like, I'm going to cross that street and I'm going to go talk to them motherfuckers, too. And that's what people understand. They can say what they want. This business, dude, isn't gatekeepers in this business?
you're motherfucking right
is there people that block
motherfucking shit motherfucker right
either you learn how
to navigate your way around it or you do
your own shit
you ain't got to I'm not saying you got to
do what they do but if you don't
want to work
within what this system is
then go do it yourself
right these niggas keep talking about
Hollywood fuck Hollywood
move nigger
go to the country
if you got a problem with Hollywood
get the fuck out of Hollywood.
Why you want to stay in an
cessive shit like that?
And especially the day we and now,
you can do your own shit.
This show is an example of saying
fuck Hollywood, we're going to do it our own way.
And when you do that, and when you do that,
guess what?
When you do that, guess what?
Hollywood comes to you.
Hollywood came to country Wayne.
Holly came to D.C.,
that you can do your own.
I'm so sick of these niggas
out here. It's not. I could make this
about one person. It's not.
You go out there so you don't have to be out there.
Yeah, and then at the same time, you can't knock
a nigger because he knows how to position itself.
One of the things that broke Kevin
was, and this was one of the most coveted
things you could do as a stand-up, if you get
invited to the Montreal Comedy Festival.
That was it. You've been there.
You did new faces?
Now, when you did it,
it wasn't as popular as it was back then.
It was like 2015, so yeah, it wasn't, because back then, if you was on new faces, you was coming out with a whole deal.
You left with a quarter million dollars.
Yeah, you left with, yeah.
You did, you did.
You seven minutes in comedy would get you a motherfucking deal.
It was new faces and the uptown.
The uptown, those are the two biggest ones.
Monique was on the uptown.
Monique did the uptown and her life change.
All executives, all these, the devils, as they say.
You call them all the devils.
I don't get fuck what you say.
You're not going to do it yourself.
You got to figure out a way to be able to communicate.
You don't got to sell your soul, whatever,
but you got to know how to fucking navigate your way through that.
Kevin came up, new faces.
They saw them.
But the thing was, with a lot of black comics,
when I was coming up,
they didn't want to go outside of their comfort zone.
And what I mean about that,
going to the comic strip,
going to the seller, going to these places.
Producers and fucking...
Hollywood wasn't coming to us.
Hollywood wasn't fucking with niggas
you know who was fuck with niggas
Russell Simmons
Stan Latham
Bob Sumner
that show was
came from
we can do our own shit
and we can show you out
what our value is
they wouldn't fuck with this
on the Carson
they wouldn't fuck was on
David Letterman
you get one nigga
one nigga a year
other than that
white boy white boys
we created our own platform
so all these motherfuckers
is talking to all this shit
go do your own shit
when I came in here today
I didn't know what to expect
I know the podcast
well and everything
is like oh there's so and so I said
but what I did know is
I was going to be in a room
with motherfuckers I saw
that went from a fucking
goddamn
office or a room
I ain't even know what the fuck
85 soft was
that nigga kept sweating me about
I was like nigga
what the fuck is this shit
I'm not right with you
oh he said you gotta come
dude you're alleged
I love you man
I was like whatever
I'll come
right
and then I came
sir
and then
this shit
shit blew up and I was like this, yeah, I gotta call them niggins a little bit more.
I was, I'm sorry, nigga, here, I get you, here go your weed back, sir.
No, but the point I'm making, with everything that's going around, here's the thing, with the
all it's shared by like, it's so much beef and black comedy and what the fuck is going
on black comedy, we all always been petty. We always been petty.
We always talk shit about a new.
We don't go. We don't go on the couch.
for three hours and have a third session.
The funny thing about that.
The funny thing about that interview,
that nigga talked for three hours.
Don't sit on that.
Don't sit on that.
Don't sit on that.
The feet never touch the ground.
Y'all, I'm just saying, y'all saw it.
Y'all see his feet touch the ground?
I don't break that up.
But we always, we all, comedians.
We always went back.
But we always left our beef behind the comedy club.
Or we fought.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's why it.
It ain't beef then.
What, to fight?
That's what we did.
And I'm saying, if it's just verbal, it ain't beef.
That's just what comedians do.
You know what?
I'll tell you story.
Well, I remember years ago at the Uptown Comedy Club, Dave Chappelle was there, Mike Epps was there, and Tracy Morgan.
Right?
And I ain't like, tell I ain't got all these crazy stories, but this is a true story.
At that time, Tracy Morgan, Mike Epps was at odds with each other.
They didn't really fuck with each other for whatever.
I'd never understood why or whatever.
But they didn't fuck with each other.
And they was about to go to blows.
We was on the back dock.
We all sit back there.
We talk it.
They were about to go to blows.
And Dave came in the middle of it.
This before he was the goat, right?
Or whatever definition you want to describe it.
And he said, yo, man, he said, y'all don't need to fight like that.
He said, don't fight right here.
And it happened to be a TV in the back, right?
He said, y'all want to fight, nigga, fight on that.
Fight on your career.
Fight on.
I show you.
You know how I whip you?
You know how I whip those particulars that be fucking with me?
Keep eating them up.
And where I do that, just keep dropping the mic on them.
Women lie, men lie, men lie, but numbers don't.
That's all you got to do.
You want to talk shit about me and you ain't shit?
Pop, take that.
Take that Netflix drop.
Pop, take that motherfucking ranking, nigga, charting?
You know that feeling?
Charting.
Not on Netflix, charting.
Yeah.
And when you chart, y'all was number one, right?
When you chart, and we niggas, we're going up against sci-fi shows.
No, you know what I'm saying?
It's like, we're in games and shit.
Yeah, baby shit.
The shit, they spend all their money on.
Millions.
They spent 148 part episode.
And here with this nigga with a new day.
And here are these 85 South, niggins.
What's they doing here?
We did.
That's how you prove it to, motherfuckers.
I know how easy it for it.
before a motherfucker become bitter.
Don't fuck with me, the particulars.
So the other day, I'm in the office,
and it was a monkey, son.
I'm not fucking with that.
I'm not fucking with that, bro.
Because the motherfucker's gonna go looking for my show,
then the whole show gone.
Nah.
I'm gonna cough, Kevin.
It wet a monkey.
It was a, it was a kangaroo.
It was a kangaroo.
You got your animals fucked up.
But the point of that story was that everybody,
this is a point I was trying to make.
Out of all these people that's in this cycle
of comedians beefing and what's wrong with y'all,
the common denominated out of everybody
that's even coming up with this conversation
where you've said names come up,
Ricky Smiley name come up,
all of these names come up.
The one thing that's in common is that all of them came from nothing.
Zero.
There was no silver spoon.
Anybody you named, it was no silver spoon,
and all of them came from nothing.
Most of them from the hood
and came from a place
where them niggas had to work hard
to get what they got.
Period.
I guess that's comedy, period.
Right?
Everybody had to put in work somewhere,
and I guess it's...
To even come up in the conversation,
you had to do a bunch of shit.
You had to, we had to hit these rooms.
You had to get up.
You had to go something.
Like, you know what I mean?
And room, not no, like, not these
rooms.
No, you gotta go somewhere where...
No, the rooms that we came up on,
it was rooms where...
They don't want you to be there.
Fuck you, nigga!
Yeah.
I ain't even saying nothing!
You fucking up the evening, nigga.
Fuck you, niggas!
Tell a joke!
They turn the TV off for you.
Now these niggas mad.
I did T.I. Room the other day.
Yeah. Trap City.
It was fuck them niggas up in there.
Yeah, when I do that room, it is a thing
because some particulars, under the impression
that I don't know what a hard room is,
I don't know any of that, I'm like, ugh.
So part of me, my special had dropped,
my special dropped on the 27,
and I did T.I. Room.
The day after my shit was charting,
I went up into that trap joint.
And you know what, it made me feel like
back in 1999, like 2000
when I first started, you know, watching comedies go up there
like, oh shit, all right, thank y'all.
Good night, I'm out of here.
And you know what you're against.
Like, and I started having flashed.
I know, I was like, all right, this is how you got to work these rooms.
I said, first off, you got margarita machines going on over here.
That's part of.
And these rooms are always, not knocking,
because the fact that there's a place
for somebody to tell you jokes, I always appreciate that.
But a lot of places don't favor us.
The stage, there wasn't no lights on me.
Right.
You know what I'm saying?
You're doing comedy in places that's not made for comedy.
Comedy, right.
They made to be an atmosphere, a lounge, or kicking.
But they're not set up for their comedy shit.
And that's what we...
That's what we thrived on down here.
That's all the shows, lounge, bar and grill.
You just at the end of the mic.
Restaurant.
And the end of the bar.
You ain't got no corn.
And you got...
Niggins.
You got to go in the bar to get the shit off.
Stepping on that little mat
My foot didn't get sticky and shit
And then the Mike keep cracking in and out
Motherfuck's washing dishes
Loud as hell
Who knew that folks
Was so goddamn loud
And you had to do it
And even at night
I felt like I was like
Oh shit
Not all but I was like man
You know you've been in a spot too long
When you know they ain't changed the grease
You can smell
But I didn't say it's just
It didn't be a hot sticky one
And now
I didn't smell the grease
So they're doing a good job in that kitchen
But it was just like the challenge, and it's something I always do.
I still go to the grimy spots.
Yeah.
And I'm saying, you want to test your armor and get grounded again.
And that's how it's mean.
I went up there and smoked them next.
You got to.
I'm like that too.
I'm going, I still get up places.
I pop out places.
Sometimes you regret it.
What?
Going to.
Going somewhere.
He'd be like, what the fuck did I come to?
Like, man, you know what I'm thinking about as you're saying that?
All them grooms that I had.
to start from the ground up.
Man, we built so many rooms.
That first night where it'd be 11 motherfuckker.
That next week it'd be 7.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, no.
The other guy.
Yeah.
Then you get a good 50 in that bitch.
You have a good one.
Then it fall back off to six.
But then when it pops.
Oh, it's ignorant.
And you don't never know what one that's going to be.
And they stay coming.
You just pump and it's cars down the fucking street.
But the way you get it,
When I used to do that, I used to go to the same room.
I would start, just like you say, it would be like 10 people.
And I would tell people, one thing I always did was make sure they had a hell of a show.
I said, I wanted to make sure they had a type of show where they, that you would read, you like, yo, I'm telling y'all, y'all, y'all should have been here.
Y, I've got to come.
Like, I tell them like this.
Yo, if y'all 10 people come back, bring one more person, I said, we had 20.
Next thing you know, we're going to be gone.
But the key to it, you still got to give them a good show.
Hell you.
I like them gutter-ass rooms.
Man, Tabu 2, when that bitch popped and I was pull up to that bitch,
and I was like, ah, it got to the point where I was just like,
all right, here we go, 30 people, and that bitch would pack the fuck out?
Yeah.
I was like, oh, okay.
And then that bitch kept going, and then it kept going.
I'd rock that bitch with no power one time.
And then we had to do them joints because the mainstream rooms,
they, for every, if you look at a lineup, the mainstream rooms,
if it was 15 comics on the lineup
it usually be one black person
so these rooms that we used to do
it was because we had to create
our own opportunity
and doing our money matters faster
what they say black comedy money come quicker
but it's not as much as it could be
if you do the mainstream side
but that's how I was when I was in New York
you do the black rooms
you know what I'm saying whatever they pay
it paid probably like four or five times
more than the spot in the mainstream
in room. Right. So you could like, the average
comic that moved to New York,
if you was popping, you could
make enough, for the most part you had a roommate. Hey,
what's that, Ricky? For the most part,
I don't have no potato salad.
She loves my potato salad. Riki
is super producer. I was just saying so many nice
things about you.
Absolutely. He was singing
you're praising. I was.
But damn, what I said, she always
throw me off.
It's like the principal came in me
like, what are you in here talking about?
When I said, when you did those rooms, the money, how the money was different.
So, like, if you were living in New York, you got a roommate, you know, your cost of living wasn't that much.
So the black rooms, you could live off of the mainstream rooms or whatever.
It'd be a $20 spot here, $25 spot here.
And most black comments, like, man, fuck that.
I can make fines over here.
But what they didn't understand was none of those people that could change your life was looking for talent.
but they was never going to go to those spots.
So at some point, you, and back then,
you couldn't blow yourself up like this with just a phone.
You had to know the people,
the other people had to know people,
and you had to go there.
Yeah.
That's what a lot of people did.
A lot of people didn't do it,
and they struggled with where they are in their career now.
Well, you go to those mainstream spots,
like we were doing,
I was going and getting money from the black spots,
but the mainstream spot,
that's how you get in the running for when it's time
for auditions, for shows, or whatever the fuck.
You got to stand in the long.
line they recommend you because they know you coming through and they know like was the
laughing's called that for you um before that was later yeah i didn't know i don't know the history
yeah that came later so like mainstream one we had was the punchline and that's how i got on
last common standard but then we had an improv for a minute but when we started with nothing there was no
comedy club bro the uptown wasn't even back it was no uptown it was no yeah it was the punch line
and then it might have been something way up.
That's it.
That's it.
That's it was the only comedy club.
They used to be scared at Uptown.
Yeah.
That's why when people talk about rules
and rough rules and stuff,
we just, like, you can't show us nothing.
But they're saying that, like,
he's saying how motherfuckers were scared of uptown.
We was literally in that bitch every night.
We was in that bitch before they had a lick of life.
But when my motherfuckers used to visit all the Uptown there,
and we just talked about the club show.
Oh, I don't know how many motherfuckers.
We seen not one of the thing
and do the Sunday.
What?
They could not fuck with that stuff.
That Saturday getting paid at 3.45 in the morning.
I know.
And they let a million comments going on.
Oh, everybody going up.
Everybody going up.
Hey, but you better say something.
Everybody going up.
You can say something to get up.
Everybody going up.
And I'm gonna go, I can say it now that it's over with.
A lot of niggas got to go up because sometimes it was like fuck them out of town niggas.
Niggas then went out of town and got their feelings hurt and got shit it on.
So when a nigga from Atlanta go to New York and then he got to go behind 51 motherfuckers,
Of course, when you come to Atlanta, we're going to put air.
Oh, we knew, yeah.
A lot of that shit was intentional.
Fucked them up top.
Man, one night, I went to uptown and Capone was up that bitch.
It's because the niggins that came down of this shit was so rude and just
talking about great New York, man, this shit, we could fuck.
Y'all ain't got shit, so like, man, shut on.
But Capone, the only nigga that came down here from New York who was like,
man, somebody, please go rip this motherfucker before I go up.
Because I was down there, I went to see Capone one night
And it was like one of them nights where they had
All the terrible motherfuckers
And he was like, you mean it? He's like, man, please go up.
These niggas is terrible.
No, but that I got off stage and he said, thank you.
That's terrible though.
I'm the motherfucker.
They put all the garbage up, though.
That's got heat and we're going to ride a wave
And these people are going to have a good time all evening.
That exhausted and just seeing them happy for a moment
When you go up and then you know it's back to book
Like you know what I'm saying?
unless you got a motherfucker.
That's what I'm going to talk to.
I stay away from you.
You had them nice, but motherfuckers be bombing,
and then everybody's all of a sudden,
they just start having bombing conversations.
Oh, man.
You know, thinking like, it's like,
the bombeteer.
The bomb committee.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were rough.
They ain't shit, right?
I remember this one time,
somebody do a plate of chicken at me.
I'm like this, man,
get that conversation away from me,
so I'm about to do my monkey joke.
Get me out of here.
Yeah, I ain't got it yet.
Why you got so many bombings?
That's the crazy part.
Motherfucking going back and forth.
Hey, man, but I didn't see
some niggas bomb and it ain't
have shit to do with them.
What?
The crowd just hated them motherfuck
That is them.
You just got to deal with it.
It's you.
And this nigga never had a chance.
I've seen it.
We know.
We know.
Mew was on the show.
I seen the nigga bomb
and go back up
and got booed again.
Why did they let them go back up?
I don't know.
He could not accept the bomb.
That's something I would have done.
Man, let me do it over.
I was like, nah, I'm going to keep getting my bomb.
Fuck that.
Let me get this nigga in a time loop.
I remember the first time I moved.
First time I worked did Carolines.
One of my good friends named Lou McGill, he used to work for Lewis Ferranda.
Lewis Ferranda was the booking guy in the general.
He ran the club.
So he'd be telling Lewis Ferranda, like, this guy from D.C.,
I want you to see him.
I want you to see him.
and I was excited
because I wanted to do the mainstream clubs
I already had the black clubs on lock
and the reason I want to do the mainstream clubs
because it wasn't like I want to be accepted
but I'm like okay where is
the bad where do the baddest motherfuckers
perform? If the baddest motherfuckers
perform in this club I want to work this club
not because oh I'm past
but like if y'all say it's the baddest motherfuckers
so he said
I was going to do a showcase
right Lewis Ferranda was going to come
watch me he don't never
go watch.
And Ed Love and Dr. Dre,
they had a hot morning show at the time
and they had a comedy night, right?
And I wasn't auditioning for that.
I was auditioned for Lewis Ferranda, right?
Nigger, I started off wrong.
I had pants with pleats.
I wore pleaded pants because I'm like this
on the do Main Street.
I had a shirt with a tie.
Why do you want that shit off?
Because the reason why?
Because I'm...
You didn't know who it was for?
I didn't know that show.
I just had a spot in Carolina.
I didn't know it was the 11th of the Dr. Dre show, right?
Man, I went out there with them pleads over with.
Digger, with that tweed belt, I had a towel up the head.
Man, when I tell you, the motherfuckers, let me have it.
And then what it was was, and I was doing clean material.
I was doing clean.
I did not pay attention to the room.
You heard Anne Love for Dr. Trey.
But that name wasn't bigger than Lewis Ferranda who booked the club.
I wasn't, I wasn't.
But you looked at this.
Right before him was like, kiss my head, suck my dick, good night.
They go, they did.
You went up there.
Hello, ladies and gentlemen.
What the deal?
Paperway.
I didn't, I, I, I, I was so into trying to.
to get past in that club and not doing what I was supposed to,
what I was supposed to, you know,
you know, they just tore my ass up.
They, no, you know, back then all you had to do is hit one person and go,
eh?
It went, it did like this, eh?
Then somebody said, eh?
They were saying you with the same man.
No, here's the worst.
They were doing cowbells, ooh, boo.
Right?
They had to come grab the mic out,
He had to grab the mic up.
It sounded like a George Lopez thing, so.
He had to grab the mic off my hand.
You wouldn't get on?
Then at him, this is the worst.
When you get booed, you hear this.
The DJ, and then the DJ jump going,
U-K-U-K-U-K-K-U-K-K.
Hey, what you're saying?
What you were saying?
Nah, son.
Nah, son.
I was like, I ain't going nowhere.
U-K-U-K-U-K-U-K.
I fuck that.
U-KU-U-KU-K.
They were saying.
He started in a few words playing.
Yeah, I'm like, Ouka, then I said, shit, y'all can't, I can step it along to y'all.
You don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck.
And then I didn't hit that, Oka, Oka, hit the road, Jack.
Yo, I went, I went, man, I was so defeated.
You refused to get off.
I refused.
I had to get on.
At the end of him, at the end of him, he's talking on, yeah, nigger, you better tell him, you know I'm from DC.
He was like, you better tell him jokes in D.C., we don't, yo, he said, he was, you better tell him jokes in D.
We don't, you know, he just fucking dog me.
Damn.
Cut to, cut to,
25 years later,
Lewis Ferranda is the guy that I work with
to do my special.
That's great.
You know, because they had the venue.
It was Caroline's Broadway, their company.
See, that's how you gotta look at shit.
Hey, man, you need to come up here.
They might have to hire these motherfuckers one day.
Yeah.
But I always, I always got to get y'all a job one day.
Listen, there.
Fucking with y'all ain't gonna do shit for me.
So I'm gonna put you on.
the newest hot shit in comedy.
Me.
And I always remind him on that story, too, not the bad way,
but just to see how the relationship changed.
And I will say...
Oh, he didn't fuck with you after that?
No, he forgot about that.
Oh, okay.
And then I started working a club.
One thing I would say about that club,
as, like, every year, they always grew with me.
When it came to money or whatever, like...
And he was like, I was one of...
I probably one of the only comments
they used to work that show, like, twice a year.
Caroline, you do it every year or every two years.
And I used to see who had some concern.
I was like, man, I don't know.
I was just there seven months.
And Lewis was like, kid, you're funny.
That's what he said.
That's his tone, too.
He said, kid, he said, you're funny.
He said, we get a lot of, it's tourists, walk, or whatever.
He said, people want to see a funny act.
And I would come in there, like, twice a year.
People are like, you're planning too much.
And they always gave me more money.
They always respected me until I grew up to a relationship where we all partnered up and did
a dope special.
Yeah.
That's close, man, huh?
Yeah.
It's a ping pong shot now.
That's hurt.
Oh, what?
It's a ping pong place.
They play ping pong down there.
You bullshit.
I walk down there, I'm telling you, your heart should start pumping.
When you walk down them steps, the steps are the same.
They redid it, but you can still feel where the steps was and everything.
When you go down there, and I talk to the barter, I said, you, I know y'all can always feel somebody used to come when they walked down here.
Because you're like, it's like 30 years of history, like, gone, just like that.
That's right.
That was one of the, that was the premier spot to perform and it goes back to like.
So that's got to be a front, a ping pong shop.
How the fuck you stay out in London?
Yeah, that's got to be.
That's some, I don't want to put it out there, but.
It don't look like no regular.
It's like, it gives you like, it's like a nightclub vibe.
It's just not, they got a fucking virtual, a robot to play ping pong with you.
So it's not, I don't know, they probably do.
Yeah, that's definitely.
It's definitely.
Money laundry, bro.
Probably for the cartels.
Yeah.
or for, you know, the white collar, you know,
Blue Wall Street.
The white, blue folks.
Yeah, and then I think about it,
it's got to be a lot of ping pong balls
to fuck us pay the rent of that motherfucker.
It ain't that many ping pong balls.
We can't get the jokes to pay the rent.
We're going to get some ping pong balls.
You know what to work?
Bing ball.
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Can we make the robot tell jokes?
You're niggas trying anything.
You've been all over the world telling jokes.
Yep.
And again, about to go all over the world again.
But you went all over the world in the army and shit already.
No, I went to a couple places
and I wasn't really a patriotic nigger like that.
Yeah, you was a nigger.
When niggas were talking to me about the military, they think I'm a go up and start going,
I got in to try to get kicked out.
That niggins said I was not the most patriotic nigger.
I wasn't.
Most things in the military are not patriotic.
Yeah.
It's a job.
Yeah, it's a job.
No, you know, we black people, we look at it as a job.
White people look at it as a duty.
What'd they be doing?
They'd be out there.
Painting they faces this shit.
The man who died.
and gave that truck, and I finally stand up next to her and defend her steal today.
Because there ain't no doubt, I love this land.
God bless the U.S.
Dick, that was the shit.
You're going to go to praise after that.
Yep.
Right.
Yeah, we used to, when I was stationed, when I went through basic tech school in San Antonio,
we had two places where you could, you would party.
One was called Lackland, Arnold Hall, and Skylark.
Arnold Hall was where the black people went, right?
And then they ended the night with six minutes,
Ducky Fresh sure, oh, we was doing all this type of shit.
And then you go to the white boys.
They play that song.
And the white dudes, boy, that song, come on.
They was busting each other in here with beer bottles and shit.
Their best friends fighting each other.
They fight each other, making up kissing and shit.
White dudes get drunk.
They tongue kiss each other.
They fucking love you, Tom.
Grab each other balls and everything.
That's fucking patriotism.
That's why I got out of the military.
They're not patriotic.
That's when they tried to sell it at.
That's what they were doing in your military.
No, they do.
No, that's side of the military.
You're not patriotic.
Oh, you know they, you know white boys.
Be patriotic.
Put your balls in my hand.
No.
No.
Kick me out.
Get me out.
Point Marshall.
And that's why I did.
Four years and got the fuck out.
Out of there.
Yep.
Four years of Air Force.
Air Force and people really think that I was patriotic.
I wasn't, none of that shit.
Man.
I told motherfuckers, if you really thought that I was gonna protect you
and keep you safe doing a war, nigger?
You got the wrong one.
Right, wrong one, you.
I don't know you ain't save you.
It's too late for him.
Yep.
You'd be the left people, bro.
What you are in the Air Force?
Air Force, that's the dude.
Man, you, you weren't no pilot.
You weren't gonna have to get too busy.
If people are, so long as you say Air Force, people like, did you fly a plane?
Hell no.
Nah.
They ain't been letting no nigga fly on my ass plane.
You got to be a special nigga named Bradford to do some shit like that.
Or Thornton.
Yeah, they don't just let, they ain't going to get no plane to no nigga name Donnell, man.
God damn plane.
And Carlos ain't going to never be a copilot.
I'm a mechanic like a motherfucker, though.
You ain't going to be a copilot.
Donnie on the Carlos jet blue pilots.
We don't know where the jet is.
They ain't on radar.
$600 million.
We love the real
niggins flying.
Niggins being
and did took the jet and did all
kind of low-down shit.
Covering over your baby mama
ultimate while she's with that
nigga.
Every morning at 4.30, I'm just
flying straight on the top of that bitch house.
Just enough now to hit the house.
Whom!
Waking the whole goddamn house up.
She going to look like a honeycomb
commercial way I'm coming through the air morning.
They're like, they arguing again.
He slew past five times.
Fuck you, bitch.
Yon!
You got to screw up your house.
Niggins.
Niggins that parked that motherfucker in the middle of the street.
Come outside.
Shit, John Volta got a fucking goddamn flight.
In his backyard, it's 747.
Yeah, he got about 100 planes.
He imagined going on the day.
They said, Tommy Perry, about the airport.
Oh, yeah, in his back.
Yeah.
A whole airport?
Yeah.
Because, you know, he had the, he was flying the little remote control,
but they said he'd been to have real take-off landing type shit.
Yeah, that's great.
What if you fuck around and fall asleep on the plane train
and you wake up at the Tyler Perry terminal?
You fell asleep too long.
First of all, hey, man.
You was tired and shit, you fellas left on the plane train.
You came in on the radar and fellas left.
You went way past the exit.
That's funny.
That's stupid, man.
Right this motherfucker all the way back.
Hell now.
A new day.
So have you haven't had the opportunity to see this special?
Yeah.
Tell them to watch.
Tell them why didn't you watch.
Okay, if you were a fan of mine from back in the day of me doing Ricky Lake, back of the day being on the wire.
Ricky Lake, how's she doing?
She's doing good.
She didn't have a couple of babies.
Her babies are kids are grown now.
I talked to her so often, but she just...
Ricky, like, that's, I'm gonna confess.
That was one of my wife's woman crushers.
Yeah.
It was, you know you have a separate list.
Right.
Or just like hypothetical white win.
You should have pulled up.
Who just happened to be like movie stars and shit.
You should have put, Rick was about that life.
I bet she was.
No, them talk show host.
I knew she was about there like when she had got
the little short bob cut.
Oh, that's the universal cut.
Right here.
And if they colored purple or something,
they're with multiple black dudes.
She had bump curls in the back.
That's how I knew.
And they all drive Honda cool.
White bids with this haircut and a hard-de-court, fucking with dicks.
Next time you talk to her, tell her the real niggins still.
All the talk show motherfuckers, is Ricky Lake, Jenny Jones.
Jenny Jones.
Sally, Jesse Raphael.
Sally.
She got the glad, man.
Vinyl white?
You got to throw her in.
Van der White.
Not much booty, but I wonder what a shape like.
That was all the song.
Man, how you get the job on Ricket Lake, man?
I did, um.
They used to do.
Another example of being in those certain places.
It was a talent coordinator from Ricky Lake.
And they said they wanted to add some a comedy element to the show.
What year was this?
This was probably like 99, probably.
99, no, about...
97, 98.
Probably like early 2000.
Ricky Lake.
Yeah, when I was there, it was when I was on it.
And I might be off about a couple years.
But the thing is, going back to what I was saying about being in the
about being in the places and wanting to work these certain rooms
because that's where the talent, they went to look for talent.
They were trying to do like a panel of experts
like in like relationships and stuff like that.
And they had, they would have showcases at the Boston Comedy Club.
And this girl I know, I know it afterwards,
but they had a showcase there, I audition for it, right?
And then I got, and I didn't think the audition was that good, right?
And then at the end of the show,
this girl came, she said, this is worse thing you can say to a comedian, she said,
I thought you was funny.
If someone says, I thought you was funny, they said everybody else thought you was some shit.
Right.
But I thought you was funny.
Don't forget them.
Right, so I made me laugh.
She came up to me.
All I remember was a woman came up and did and said, I thought you was funny.
I was like, whatever, bitch.
I ain't even pay attention to her.
I meant bitch in a positive way.
Queen.
I wasn't using Queen back then.
I was called bitches, bitches, right?
I said,
I'm sorry, Ricky.
All right.
I said, whatever, bitch.
Right, I paid no mind.
So my manager called me and told me that I had got,
they want me to do some comedy work on a Ricky Lake show.
Right, so I went there, and I was talking to this chick about comedy.
She was talking to me about comedy, right?
And she said, yeah, I remember one time I was talking to this comedian,
and I told him he was funny.
And then he said, whatever, bitch.
I know I'm funny.
It was the same chick.
The same chick, the one, I didn't acknowledge her that day
that I did the audition.
It was the same chick when I got to die.
She was talking and just so happened that when I thought
I had bombed that audition, it got me a gig on the show.
And I was up there, it was me.
And you called up, bitch, she still hired you.
I mean, it's how you pronounce it.
It's the context.
That's all though.
It is.
It's a yo.
That's how I'm gonna start.
Just give me a job.
All right.
shit, that happened with Bob, somebody.
I said, well, put that thing on the phone.
She was like, here, here to go.
So you didn't need that job, yeah, you just went ahead.
I've been interrupted my whole career.
People think I'm an interruptor.
Now, took a mission.
I've been interrupted.
I started as a heckler.
Damn.
That's how you started to come.
I didn't start with the dream to be a comedian.
I started with the dream to be an asshole sitting in the audience.
You was a real live hanger.
I was a heckler.
That's why that's some of your greatest moments as a heckler.
Wait a minute, so you with Kate.
I can't remember.
I used to light niggas up.
Listen, I used to light niggas up.
I used to light niggas up in this club so much.
People start coming to the club to watch me heckle.
Hell no.
I swear, ask anybody.
Hell, me.
Why many of these niggas believe my stories, man?
The fuck was wrong with you and you are particular.
So you was heckling.
You know, I told you the truth.
Why you ain't questioned?
This.
You sound like chat.
Oh, you can't say that.
Don't say that.
Oh, no.
Hell no.
You ain't do that.
You ain't.
Don't say that.
Don't say you heckled.
Don't say that.
You're the day that.
I started.
You had fans.
No, they're heckler.
This is that D-shirts.
Nigger, oh, hold on, hold on.
Y'all, hold on, y'all.
Y'all, y'all.
I'm gonna call, hold on y'all.
Hey, y'all, y'all.
Yo, yo, y'all.
All right.
All right.
All right.
All right.
Fuck that nigga on stage.
Right, I.
Alright.
All right.
All right.
Hold on.
Hold on.
Let this dick answer the phone.
Oh.
Do you.
Hold on.
Hello?
Let this nigga answer for him.
Oh, let me direct your autobiography.
This nigga...
Hello?
When we do the movie about you, let me do it.
Hold on, hold on.
Let me get this.
We got to do that for it.
Because that's how it started.
Hello?
This nigga rocking as a heck.
Hold on, wait a minute.
Be quiet.
This nigga I'm talking to now is the first motherfucker.
I'm on an 85 South show, right?
And I know you see this nigga be acquired,
but they want some secrets.
Right?
This nigga was a first.
First motherfucker that brought me on stage, Mike, how did I start?
Nobody want to hear that story, man.
I ain't saying shit about that.
Light security.
All right, I.
Let it talk.
Let it talk.
Can y'all hear it?
Let it talk.
Okay, I'm going to backtrack.
How did I start?
What I used to do before I first time I touched the mic?
Give me my money, digger.
I wasn't being a monkey, what was I doing?
Say it loud, nigga.
Say it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait.
No, wait, wait, no, wait, no, you ain't going to go on with that shit.
All right.
What I used to do?
Yeah, what I used to do to people?
So he had people coming to the club just to see him heckle.
Keep talking, nigger.
Go closer to the mic.
What did you say?
Donnell.
Put him to your mic.
No, wait, wait.
With no mic.
That's why I be yelling at niggas.
I don't need a mic.
And then, yo, when I got so cocky, right, I went to, uh, Raj.
Yeah, t-shirts made.
No, I ain't no t-shirt made.
But I tried to get a door deal, though.
As a heckler, digger.
I would, I would say.
He's crazy.
You know, I went to the...
Hey, man.
Seems to me...
Your numbers have increased.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Those are my words, exactly.
You know, motherfuckers is coming to see me.
I was like this.
I told him, I said, well, it looks like I've increased the business here by 30%.
I said, I think it's time to cut me in.
Damn.
They didn't believe it, Mike.
The first time...
What heck of this?
What happened the first time I...
The first time...
I went on stage, what happened, Mike?
I try to tell these
niggas, man.
That's why
when I yell out, people like, why you,
I, I, I, I, I, I,
I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I,
I've been, I've been a asshole.
The reason why I stopped
heckling, because the comedians told me,
I was still trying to heckle.
They told me that the rule is
a comedian can heckle another comedian.
And I wanted to be like, some of these
niggas need to be heckled.
You're going to quit comedy to be heckling?
No, but I tell you.
Man, I'll stop all this shit right now
They go back to what I used to do
Yo, Tracy, do you think I need this shit?
Wait, I'm gonna tell you that conversation was
Me and Tracy Morgan had that
because Tracy Morgan used to heck with niggas too, right?
So Tracy Morgan said,
we should go on tour
Around the country
and just hit on these wack-ass comedians, son
I watched that.
Hey, Mike, you know, I owe you a call, man,
I appreciate you because these niggins ain't believe me.
They didn't believe me.
Stop trying to promote your shit on this show, Nick.
What's the name of it, though, sir?
You and Cheryl Underwood, right?
What's the name of the podcast?
All right, Cheryl on the one.
My man, Mike Washington, the first nigga that ever brought me on stage.
I appreciate that.
Yeah, bleep that out.
All right, my minute.
Don't nobody want the truth.
Joe, bleep, bleep.
They don't want the truth.
I thought y'all said this was a year of the truth.
They got a paper.
That's not what we're here.
Is this not the year of the truth?
You can't handle the truth.
Told you.
Y'all tried to question me, son.
No, the fuck we didn't.
Yes.
You did.
You stood up.
I walked away.
No, you did like, ah, you did all of this shit.
It was unbelievable.
No, we said, yeah.
It was hard to believe that motherfuckers were showing up to see the heck of it.
It was, because it was-
I'm going to see my nigga, darling.
They did that.
Yo, anybody that worked the safe way back there?
No, they did.
People used to come.
Because, well, he didn't tell you about that story.
Mike worked for Hostess Cupcake Company at the time, right?
And he used to give us tickets at the Safeway,
give away free tickets.
So that's where we started going.
It was like, oh, we got a free ticket.
We used to go there.
So at my job, everybody in my job, I saw coming.
I really started, I started, the club started blowing up.
Because they, niggas was like, yo, is that asshole nigga going to be here today?
So.
Prong comedians just come out to me and be like, man, look, I'm working on some new shit, man.
Don't fuck with me today.
I'm like, man, you guys.
You were in storet, niggas?
No, I was like...
Nick, you don't want the heat.
Give me my hush money.
Nah, but I was different.
Yo, I had two jobs at the time, and I used to travel.
Man, I loved comedy so much.
I remember there was a promoter there.
He used to do show.
And like, when the show were bombed,
or he didn't make the money at the door,
I had two jobs.
I was, I thought I was, I used to help and pay the comedians.
I'm like, y'all, man, I need that.
I'm like, man, fuck there you go.
Might as well. You didn't booed him off stage.
Oh, yeah, I got to get him.
That's fucked up.
The nigger booed you, the nigger heckle you, and then be like,
there you go.
I shouldn't get your whole ass nothing.
Then go back up there, let me do it again.
That's fucked.
Nah, but I came out.
And I'm going to tell you, like, the guy that I just talked to, he called me yesterday.
Two days ago, he said, Donnell, I'm so proud of you.
He's talking about the special.
He said, I'm so proud of it.
He said, man, I don't know if this sounds crazy.
He said, I feel like we both had this special.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, it may sound crazy.
And, like, work with Ricky.
Ricky's a dope producer.
Ricky's, like, all about the book.
And I try to call her sometime emotional.
She don't want to hear that shit.
She asked, this is the worst thing.
The producer, somebody produces your special.
And you call them and they answer the phone like this.
What?
That may you don't call them a lot of time.
Yo, but this is, this is a, this is a,
When you know, we shot it twice, right?
And the first set, this is what the producer will say to you.
They'll say, they don't even move their walkie-talkie or nothing.
They're just like, we got what we need.
If you know producer, we got what we need like, I mean, if we had a sound right here,
switch that light right there and bring this and do their pulse, we got what we need.
We can make it work.
And I was upset in that moment, not upset because she was right.
We did have we need.
But I was like, I didn't have what I needed.
And then the way you gauge her is her dimples.
When she ain't fucking with you, you don't see no dimples.
Right?
But when she happened about something, if she'd be dimpled to fuck up, right?
When she came to the first time, I was like, and I don't mean this in bad.
Well, I was like, oh, don't you see this bitch dimples, man.
You know.
Right.
I was like, I got something else to do.
It wasn't bad.
But she likes me in a certain capacity.
She knows when I'm doing a certain thing.
And I knew I didn't hit it.
It was okay, and we could have worked.
I knew I didn't hit it.
That second show, I bullfucking put a hoodie on and shit.
And I was like, it's time to go to work.
And I didn't even have, but she came in the room
because that's the first person you're looking for.
The person that's putting the magic together, right?
I was like, she better come here with some dimples.
She better come here with some dimples.
He came in that joint.
Them joints was like this.
It was deep.
It was super dimples.
I was like, we got them.
She didn't have to say nothing.
And she'd be like this, and then she walked away.
I was like, I got the temple.
That was good.
But the point I'm making, for this, for me, if this special, like 15 to 20 years ago,
like when you know you want something to make your mark of people to know you from,
it would have been a different feeling.
It would have been like, oh, man, if I do this, people get to know me or whatever.
But there's a lot of people to know me already.
You know what I'm saying?
But this one, this special, it really feels like it's for the people.
and the worst thing you can do with the special
is to try to figure out how funny it was
because funny is subjective
to what style you're like
the hardest thing for you to deal was like
is it funny enough?
You think they're like this?
And I had to remove myself for that
and I told myself what I want
I said the thing that I like about is
I said it feels good
the special feels good
and we talked about earlier
how comedy's fucked up
the special feel good
like three weeks before we drive
to Dave told me he said
Donnell, I think your special is going to be a breath of fresh air, you know.
When you watch a new day, you don't see nobody, a guy up there trying to dog nobody.
You don't see a guy trying to expose nobody.
You don't see none of that.
You see a guy that just want to have a good time and to talk about relatable stuff.
Even the subject matter, I talk about this.
Who don't have a goddamn co-parent story?
You know what I'm saying?
Who hasn't been in a toxic relationship?
You know what I'm saying?
Who don't have issues with Dr. Umar?
You got some issue
I ain't got an issue
I'm just
He's not a fan of my life
Whatever
We'll talk about that
On another episode
But I'm just saying
I talk about
He was one of them
Particulous
What
You were talking
Not the bad way
Not the bad way
We all like Dr. Umar
We love him
Brother
But in this special
I was like
Can I put a special
That
Almost anybody can connect
with some kind of way, I think
it's classic. I think
at some points, it's young without
seeing the motherfucker trying to be a kid or
whatever. It's some references there.
Talking about toxic relationships, talking
about fucking co-parenting.
Talking about being older. Talking about being an older guy
dating a younger woman, all that type of stuff.
It's like, I think it's enough for everybody to
at least, you know, sit down
and enjoy it. It's a good special.
Hell yeah.
Go check it out.
No, that went crazy, man.
You know you always welcome to come on here and talk some shit with us.
But you don't believe me.
I believe you, Doug, you don't believe me.
You didn't believe Kevin Hart and did a monkey joke, man.
You want me to call it?
Diggins that saw him do a monkey joke?
That's how he got them to do a monger.
That's why they put him in Jumanja.
Yo, okay, I'm working.
So, no, I'm calling nobody.
Hey, no, no.
You got receipts, d'all were receipts.
Y'all were receipts.
Your heart, kept your ass, by bringing that back up.
He worked too hard.
For you to let that type of shit resurface.
You look at that.
That's crazy.
Yeah, don't call nobody, man.
Kevin Hardin's going to get the whole shit.
Sorry.
Don't go on the chicken.
That's fucked up.
That's fucked up.
Who should be calling Tony?
You're stupid.
You're stupid.
Didn't that nigga have a monkey joke?
If she said, ooh, uh, I would die.
I don't know.
I don't know what the fuck y'all got going on.
No, I mean, it wasn't, he did a pip.
I don't know what.
I can't remember.
I know that he did a bit.
And he was, it was, uh...
Yeah, I don't have shit to do with this.
This is done there telling the story.
A lot of people have monkey jokes.
Yeah, this is true.
His was ripping, though.
You couldn't follow his.
He had the monkey joke.
What?
Diggins, drop it.
He could drop that bike.
Everybody walked out doing how they were...
Hell no.
You had to feed.
I hope y'all came in a wrong time in this podcast.
Y'all think I'm fucked up.
Just rewind.
That is fucked up.
He's been trying to bury that joke forever.
Now you didn't brother.
everybody back to the internet.
What the fuck down now?
No, he'll tell you that story.
Whoa, walk, walk, walk.
He'll tell the story.
It's not a bad story and it's, I'm just saying.
And think about it, it looks like, you can really go deeper.
He did a monkey joke and then look at the evolution chart.
Shit.
You know what?
Think about it, digger.
Y'all don't want to think in here, digger?
No.
Think about it.
The evolution chart is starting like this.
It did a nigger stood up and became a man.
Am I right?
I'm too deep for y'all
to it's right there, son.
I'm telling y'all.
Because if that was the case,
it wouldn't be no more monkey.
If you said Kevin Clark
is going to make monkeys extinct?
I ain't said nothing in the party, man.
This is nothing of this shit.
No more mug getting around.
See, you know what I realized?
You know what I'm realizing?
The Pell Show.
Haterball.
That was your life story.
Yeah, that you was really the hater?
bro, you was already been?
Do you know another thing about that?
That's you?
The story, that joint,
just how much of a hater,
the haters ball,
this is how much of a hating skit it was,
sketching.
I asked Neil Brennan,
I asked him, I said,
so what's the next sketch I'm gonna be in?
He said,
player haters ball,
I was like, cool.
So next day,
I look at the casting sheet
for the next day,
for what was going the next day,
and I see player haters ball.
I don't see my name on the paper.
I'm like,
I thought you said I was going to be in it.
He said,
shit. I forgot, B. That's a white person being cool. They say the word B. They said,
you know, they got one word to make them black, bro, dog, or any of that, right? He said,
oh, I forgot B, and I'm like, how the fuck you're going to forget? Because I was thirsty to
be, I was always on them, like, doing another skit or whatever. So he was like, I don't know,
B, he was like, just come up or something. That's what he said. He said, I don't know,
just come up or something. And I was like, I got to come up something. I was like, ooh.
then I get to build my own character
right at the time I don't
my hair don't grow we all know that
I'm in right in the middle of
I'm feeling like Chico right now
but
Chico got brazed down his back
But just we cannot
You can do all that shit all you want
You think Stevie Wonder
happy with his shit
He got to Stevie Wonder
It's a D.C. thing
This is a D.C. thing.
Stevie Wonder braids start right here
Digger
He don't want to fuck the bitch is on the floor
Is it Sheila?
That's why he'd be looking up.
It ain't nothing to do.
Yeah, he's trying to do.
So he said, so Bill says, he said, I don't know, come up with something.
So I was like, every character I play, it's always me, just a ball guy.
I said, but I want to do something different.
I said, I want to get some hair.
I'm built, like, build a bear.
I'm building a character.
Like, I can do whatever the fuck I want.
I said, I called hair makeup or props or whatever.
I said, I want a wig.
I want a jury curl wig, right?
I said I want like a soul glow joint, right?
Nobody knew what I was doing that night, right?
So I want the sole glow joint.
Then I went to the props.
I said, I want some activated, but I want it in a champagne glass.
I mean, a champagne bottle.
Like, I want to be squirted.
They was like, that's going to be too sloppy.
We can't do that.
I was like, well, give me an aerosol can and make it look like ballery, like some platinum or some shit.
They gave me that shit, right?
And then five heartbees is my favorite movie.
I said, I want to dress like Eddie Kane, right?
If you look at that suit, if you look at the suit,
the player hit his ball, if you look at it,
you put it up against Eddie, oh, night like this.
The hang.
I basically told him to give me a hang suit.
I know y'all don't believe nothing I say.
You don't believe this story?
I believe it.
You want to call the words on the parking.
And I said.
Look at me like you believe me, digger.
You look at me like I'm alive.
And then you just supposed to do everything.
No, look.
You started as a heckler.
I'm so scared to trust you now.
You're like, is he heckling right now?
I'm not.
So, look, this is the story behind that.
So I get the can, right?
I go, I went to wardrobe, Whitney and them.
Whitney Kea, she does wardrobe for, for VMF.
Now, shout out to her.
And I got my shit on.
I got the, I got the, I got the motherfucker wig on.
I'm doing like this.
And they get mad because I'm just spurting shit everywhere.
Everywhere I go, they're like, come on, man.
They ain't like enough with the shit.
I'm like, I'm practicing.
Hit me two times.
bitch. I'm like
this, because on that show, I realized
they didn't give me a lot of words. So anything,
any character, whatever I created, I had to
punctuate it with strong comedy.
Everything I did was for a laugh.
I was like this. Nigel, when I squirt,
them niggins are going to laugh.
I was like, they not
let me talk that much, so I've got to
do shit to get the laugh.
I'm walking around,
I'm like this. Bitches laugh at this shit. I mean,
Queens.
Huh.
The queen bitches
are laughing at me, right?
The real bitch is getting it.
Yeah, yeah.
So I'm, they're like, you stupid, you stupid, how are you funny?
And I'm walking around.
I'm not on the script.
If anybody got that original script, the character is not on the script.
He does not exist.
I'm walking around.
I'm like, oh shit, I'm like this.
God damn.
Then I said, Neil, I said, what's, I was like,
he started laughing.
I said, what's my name?
You said, I don't know.
Make up something, B.
I'm like this,
go past the mirror.
I look in the mirror.
I did like this.
I said, I feel beautiful.
I feel beautiful.
Beautiful.
The nigga name, I named them beautiful.
And then I walked past Neil.
I said, I got a name.
He said, what I said, beautiful.
You don't look at a deal.
They were so disrespectful.
We didn't skip.
This is another skip.
We never got on there.
We had one skit.
We scratched, scratch.
It was the, it was a player.
We was going to go back in time.
Dave was going to go.
This was a sketch.
They showed a clip.
Yeah, they showed a little clip of it.
What it was, he went back in time to smack my mother for naming me beautiful.
And this is for naming this ugly motherfucker beautiful.
A dick is slap my mother.
That never, that would never aired.
That's great.
But that's how it was.
If you look at it, if you look at it.
If you look at it.
So y'all was really hating.
on each other all day.
We just hate them.
And it was some funny motherfuckers in there, man.
No, but if you look at it, if you look at that, the way it's cut, you see me yell
out something.
Yeah.
You hear me yell out something, but you don't see me.
If you notice when all of them went up there to talk, I didn't get to, I didn't talk.
I had to, I had the, I had the, when the, when the, when, when, when, when, when, when
niggas was quiet, we'd be on set.
I'd be like this, man.
Ain't nobody, ain't nobody say cut yet.
And I just used to yell out shit.
I was like, I said,
Silky Mother, got one big titty
and one little titty,
and they called it bitch Biggie Smalls.
I was getting laughs, nigga.
The only way you stayed on that show
by getting laughs.
When we did the Rick James sketch,
because they know I'd just be blurring out,
I'm just going to be like,
I'm like this, if don't nobody,
the worst thing, if don't nobody's saying,
I'm going to keep doing it,
you know, until they tell them it stopped.
But when I would throw something,
it would, the shit would work.
We did the Rick James sketch
When it was Charlie, it was at the bar, we're at the bar.
What did the five fingers say to the face, right?
I said, Neil, they ain't mic me.
He said, you're not saying nothing.
They're not going to give you no mind.
I said, but what if I want to say something?
He said, nah, babe.
Right?
I was like, okay, well, since I didn't say that,
I said, I tried to, what's the motherfuckers to be in the park?
The mind, what are they called?
Minds, my face was so expressive.
when they smack
I know I wasn't talking
but if you look at that in slow motion
if you look at that
oh my gun
that's up
true
you're my bullshit
he ripped it off
oh hold your man there
oh you threw all for the white man
you went hard
you just well hard for the white man
I bought a boat from his dad
okay okay all right all right
He took that thing a bird.
It's dead as my pool guy, man.
All right, I apologize.
New him since he was seven years old.
Did you, really?
Yeah.
So what was the story I was said?
I said...
The mic, the ms shit and the...
Oh yeah, if you look at that sketch,
when he said, we said,
we said, what the five figures of his face?
I'm Rick James, bitch.
But he wouldn't give me no mic.
If you look at that slow motion, you could see my mouth saying,
what the fuck.
I made sure I was like...
Just gonna say something anyway.
No, but I didn't say it.
You just mowed it.
I meaned it, whatever they call that shit.
I mimmed it, whatever the fuck it is.
But if you look at it, I'm like, I say,
and I made the camera.
If you look at that shot, I made the camera go to me.
I made the camera go to me.
I would have this...
75% of the shit I did on the show.
I wasn't supposed to be on that show.
Damn.
I used to just hang out.
at the time I wasn't making no money I was like I get free food I get to learn
something and them niggas would be like yo you want to jump in this yeah there's so many
sketches it just so happened that I was just hanging out the wayne Brady sketch when I get shot
at the end I was just hanging out from freeloading what happened with your jacket at the
ear did go another thing that was a one take joint man I used to go so hard on that show
yo damn up for first off Neil came into here I don't know where he said yo you want to get shot
be? I'm like,
I didn't know what it was. So they come out, they do this shit,
and it's about to rank. I was like, oh, shit.
Another thing when people don't know, any time you saw real
niggas around me, it was real niggas that be around me.
My nickers, I was giving my niggas jobs.
Anytime you saw real niggas, it was real niggas.
It was 40 in them. It was Brooklyn Mike. It was my dudes.
I'm like, nigga, come and get this money, get this free food,
you get to do something.
Yeah.
So I pulled them niggins out.
I was like, stand right here.
Niggas, stand right here.
Those two niggas that beside me on that skits is my niggins.
Right.
One of them I still fuck with, one of them, I see them, whatever.
But they my dudes, right?
And then I was like, man, child, I said, yo, we don't know what this skit.
I said, we don't know what this is gonna be.
I said, just follow my lead.
Whatever I do, just act nervous and shit.
That motherfucker said, oh shit, it's Wayne Brady, son.
And I did like that, I ran over there.
When I grabbed the, um, thing, my, my,
Arm got caught.
Yeah.
The jacket got caught.
Yeah, that's what I know.
And there's nobody said, cut,
so I just kept doing like this.
And they said, that was one take.
They said, bloop and they was like, that was it.
Yeah.
That was out nowhere.
That's true.
I noticed that shit.
I used to cast on that show.
I used to cast.
So you were pulling people in, other comedians.
I would look at the script.
Whenever I saw, and I knew casting people,
whenever I saw background.
Yeah.
like street walker chicks.
I'd be like this, bitch, I got you some work.
But where, I'm telling you, I would look at that.
I mean, I didn't cast no, nobody talked, you know,
but it was like, right, but what they said,
background, they got a little money for the day.
There's another thing, one of the bitches,
and not like that.
One of them, she blew up, this is real story.
Which one?
Let me tell you, slow down, niggins.
Oh, now you want to pay attention.
I thought it was the one.
There you are,
now we're engaging.
No, I thought it was the one with the one.
The titty came out.
I thought it was...
No, I got her.
Okay.
Okay.
The pee on you bitch, that was one of my bitches.
You just let your bitch get peeed on?
No, it was for the joint.
It tried to head of her.
I recruited her.
Not my bitch when I knew the bitch.
Okay.
Boom, got her on.
All that.
And a scene on the Wayne Brady joint, right?
First off, they had this one scene.
It was like women of the night, like streetwalkers or whatever, right?
So they had all of these women that was, like,
trained, classically trained and everything.
And then they'd be like, action.
They tell them, get ready, they take this stuff off,
and they have their horse shit on.
Then they say, cut.
They put this stuff on like, well, I don't really want to do this.
I'm much better this.
But one of my friends, she was a real dancer.
Her name was Pearl.
I got her to gig on that joint.
When they said cut and everybody put their clothes back on,
she ain't give a fuck.
Right.
She was trying to make it rain.
The production was happy and shit.
She was like, hey, how y'all doing?
Right?
Told me so.
So, is a camera still rolling, you're eating fish right now?
I'm not.
I'm not wanting some of these french friends.
So.
This is a good-ass story, that's all I'm saying.
But she, the one thing she went from, she was a played woman of the night.
And she, she made everybody comfortable.
They was waving her and stuff.
And then she got, she's the one that says, hi Dave, I like, I don't even remember.
And then she said, hi, Dave.
I like a new show.
And then Dave's like, run, bitch, get out of here.
She used to be a dancer.
Okay.
And I got that spot, and just she blew up in the clubs.
They were like just, he's bitches out here jealous
because I'd be on a Chappelle show.
You had one scene.
But she didn't.
And they freaked it.
Yeah, but she did.
She's a bodybuilder now, like, world training bodybuilder.
It's a million stories from that show
that a lot of people don't know about.
Hey, ma'am.
I told you we had just made fast.
Oh, shit.
Come on, man.
Come on, man.
Who's the darnel?
No, I'm joking.
Thad?
Motherfucking fan, man.
It's Donnell.
Let's say Donnell.
I hope, please.
Yeah, man.
Look, man, tell everybody to check out a new day.
You just did.
Everybody check out a new day, man.
It's a new day.
It's a new life for me.
Birds flying high.
You know how I feel.
Breathe 50 in the own body.
You know how I feel
It's a new dawn
It's a new day
It's a new life for me
It's a new dawn, it's a new day
You ain't never been no singing on me
Stop hating
For all you monkeys watching this
And I'm feeling good
John Nair Rollins, the most believe
for me to see
85 South Show
We're out of here
Let's up a puzzle man, you're right
That's the truth.
That nigga had a monkey bit.
Hey, man.
Ain't nobody fucking with you with you.
I guarantee you.
He'll be like, oh, yeah, I did that shit.
That was this shit.
I'm going to get this episode taken down.
Yeah, this episode is going to get screwed.
That's a good story.
That's a come up.
It's going to get screwed.
Yeah, that's when they ain't going to do numbers.
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