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All right, well, welcome back to Backwoods backstage.
You already know we live, Dreamville, 2024.
And, of course, we're in the trap, 85 South.
But we got nothing other than cogs just rolled through.
What's going on?
Came through this lid.
Thank you for having me.
How are you feeling today?
Feel great.
Are you performing?
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Tomorrow.
Today my day off.
So you're drinking on your day, y'all.
You're just chilling.
No.
No.
No.
A little bit, a little bit.
I'm keeping it cool because I can't get too liquor tomorrow.
Yeah, you got to work.
Yeah, you're like, you pulled up today.
Who you wanted to see today?
Who you came?
I just saw Tessi Red, man.
She killed it.
She didn't disappoint.
She did not disappoint.
I was excited to see her, too.
Get it sexy.
Go ahead.
Oh.
No, I was just feeling.
Right.
I wanted to see Tizzo.
Did he already go on?
Tizzo?
I don't think.
Oh yeah, he already went up.
He went up already?
Okay.
It's cool.
But yeah, I'll see the rest of the people and shit.
Any artists that you look in the link with while you here to maybe work on some future collabs or something going on?
Nah, I just be chilling, man.
I think I don't want to get into it like that.
How do I say this?
I think.
You can say fuck them niggas if you want to it.
That's what you said.
What's meant to have is meant that.
about the type of nigga that's going to be like
I don't believe in networking like
we meet up and we cool then we cool
you want to be organic
I'm very organic with shit
I'm not the type of nigga that has an agenda
and like oh someone's old year
I'm feeling you feel me so
you know if it happened it happened though
and I love like I'm a fan of a lot of artists here
so that's not me taking away from
yeah no we definitely get what you're saying
it's just more of like
I don't really care yeah where are you from
originally L.A. L.A.
South Central
How did the link up with Dreamville come together?
Random as hell.
So I dropped this song when I was like 20, 1920.
There's a nigga that went to school with Cole.
But it was circulating.
At that time, it was a blogger.
I'm 30 now.
At that time, it was like 20 years ago.
There was a blogger.
It was dominant.
And that shit was circulating.
So it got to this nigga that went to school with Cole.
And then Cole heard the song.
Invited me to the crib he was working out of at that time.
just so happy to be in Hollywood
pulled up
he met me
I played him
some shit that was unreleased
and played him
you know
and we just connected
yeah
something that I got signed
from there so
so how was that
was you a fan of Cole
before you sound
sure
that's why I even met with him
so that shit was
like I said
I ain't gonna say
no names
but I met with a lot
of niggas before Cole
but
Cole was the one that
I was like
the nigga didn't try
to sell me no dream
he didn't take me to
no club
he didn't do all this shit
to everybody else
trying to do
and I was all right
cool
he really was like
looking out
trying to reach
back and link up
and elevate you as an artist.
Yeah, exactly.
And, like, that's what is important to me.
So, bro was like, even what really caught me when bro was like,
he was a look, nigga, whether you saw him or not, this is what I got for you.
This is what you should do.
And I was like, this is a little nigga right there.
Oh, yeah, that's real pure game.
Yeah, I was on God.
So I was like, that shit stood out to me.
And I was like, all right, I can fuck with you.
So, yeah.
I like that about everybody who then came through today said that about cold.
They let you know that he a real person, like, in, in his artistry, but also behind the scenes.
because you know some people be flexing like they really gonna fuck with you like yeah bro i'm gonna get
with you i'm gonna get or i got this and play for you but they don't never fall through man
when i tell you people was i'm gonna fly your family out here i got a bag of money here
i'm just selling your dreams it's like and to me you can't play no player niggia i come like
i'm like bro i seen this like so i played along i got the free shit but i was like
can't be without that i was there but i was like oh y'all ain't fin to get me i don't know what this is but you know
Did you believe his home when you said I went to school with him and stuff like that?
I know.
Yeah, that's good.
Oh, you knew that.
Because he ended up being my manager for years.
He was my first manager.
Shout out to Matt.
He actually should be here somewhere.
I don't know what they got.
He still fucked with him to this day.
Good nigger.
Shout out to Matt.
You know, it didn't work out business-wise.
But Matt a good-ass nigga.
We still talked to this day.
And they went to college together.
And, yeah, he's still part of the family.
So that's, I said something right there.
That's good.
How you feel to be?
like on the East Coast, getting ready to perform
and, you know, one of the biggest festivals
on this side, you know, being
from the West Coast. It feels good. It feels good.
I'm the only West Coast artist on the
whole squad, so... Damn, I didn't realize that. You are the only West Coast
artists. Only West Coast artists. Yeah.
So it's interesting. You got to hold it down for Kelly then.
Exactly. Yeah.
So I don't feel no pressure, but...
I'm about to say, no pressure. No pressure.
But it feels good, you know what I'm saying? Like,
nobody could be me. I love that about it.
Like, nobody could, can, who I am, nobody on that squad could do what I do.
No matter whether it's musically, whether it's personality.
I am who I am at the end of the day.
And so it's like, that's dope just to have individuality.
But everybody has that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So it's not just.
Like, all y'all different.
Everybody's different.
Yeah, everybody's so different.
And I think that's what I love about the squad.
Like, they ain't no like, oh, do you sound like, oh, do you sound like, oh, do you sound like, oh, no, I don't.
You feel me?
Like, but we all got the same.
There's like a core that we have that's like to say.
You know what it is, art.
Like all y'all are, y'all are.
Our real artist.
It's real artists.
Yeah, we're true artists.
We true to ourselves.
We humble people.
We cool.
It's reality.
And we know how to fuck.
We do our job really, really fucking well.
Like, we, we don't play on that mic, you know what I'm saying?
So I know I don't.
And they don't either.
And they push some time.
We in the studio together, which is rare, all of us.
Well, I bet that.
Oh, man.
We ain't playing.
Yeah.
We ain't there to kill.
Not saying it's a competition.
but it gets competitive.
It is.
To me,
this is a sport.
They get like...
For sure.
And I come from a sports background.
So for me, I ain't playing.
What sport did you play?
I played football.
I was a running back.
I ran track.
I swam.
I don't know how to surf.
I'm not you a triathlon.
Huh?
I said, not you a triathlon.
Yeah, no, I did it all.
Like my whole thing, I thought I was going to make it in sports.
And then I pulled my handstring it and, you know, should it happened.
But I was an athlete first.
So that mentality, you got to have, like...
For sure.
Like, I ain't going to have a worst.
verse on this song? Yeah, hell not.
And when I do, I just take me off the song.
Like, just take me off of it. And I've done it before.
Like, where I suck so bad on the song, where everybody
got me. I was like, man. I was
about to say, have you ever recorded a verse? And then
somebody else got on a song, you was like, let me go
back and rewrite this shit. For sure.
Who made you step your pin game up?
Yeah, cold, clearly.
I think.
What that is? Besides cold.
Yeah, you can't.
That's tough, bro.
A lot of people don't be trying to rap with me, dog.
They're seeing me.
I'm not even in a cabin.
Like, I really not even head him.
I'm not even a cocky nigga at all.
But I just think, well, come down on, like, really rapping.
Because, like I said, I was going to take the conversation to the left side.
I don't want to do that.
But it's been multiple times where I made niggins, whether change their song or change their line or they never put the song out.
And I say in this new song, I got, it's not out yet.
I just said in this new song I made
and I'm like, a lot of niggas won't put the song
up because I fucking did my
body and you know it and I know
banking on it bro
You're like come on drop that but there's been time
I can't think of the top of my head
I know when I leave this spot
I'm gonna be like yeah
so so that's what it was
Maybe Chameau but a lot of people
made me change my verse sometimes
The whole camp
Like when we did the Atlanta camp
for Revenge of the Dreamers 3
That happened a few times
Like Smino
buddy but I don't think it was about bars
It was just more of like
fitting a song
So it's hard for me to, like, say, maybe change it on some rap shit.
I think I'm, like, focused on a rap shit, right?
Like, when we talk about that, you know what I'm saying?
But.
So you obviously take, like, your lyricism real serious.
How do you feel about the state of rap right now?
We was just talking about how it's kind of been real trendy, like, what sound good versus
the lyrics.
I think it's getting back to that, though.
Okay.
I got for the, you know, real beef to me.
But the beef.
But with that going on, that's real competition.
Was you happy when you heard cold shit?
Yeah, and I think a lot of people think, oh, you've been heard it?
I was like, no.
Well, me, I'm a fan first.
Yeah, so, and I talk to call on a regular, but I don't be asking, like, what's coming next?
I don't be asking the niggins' plans, because I want to find out the, I want to be a fan, too.
I want to just sit back and be surprised, too, so I was surprised as well.
And, like I said, I didn't have a real, I think he's dope as fuck.
the whole shit fire he's an elite rapper
I love the competition in it
I don't think it's further than that
ain't a real beef nigga you know real beef
it's gonna be some other shit
it's respectable beef it's respectable
that's what it is respect
you can tell they respect each other
because they want to respond to each other
they ain't talking about nobody baby mama
I'm not gonna talk to you
yeah yeah yeah I think you was
you know what I mean
responding to exactly so to me it's like
I love that so I think
that's that brought something great to the rap game
it's exciting again and that hasn't happened
in a long time and I hate
that it has to be them because it's been them for so long
and then you being from the West Coast
with Kendrick and then
you know what I mean you with cold? Like
you being from the West Coast with you being Kendrick
so I'm on both sides. I actually got a song
so I'm performing tomorrow. It's funny because
I got a song with Kendrick on my last album and
I was like should I not perform that shit? I was being funny
but of course I am but it's like
I don't get a fuck like I say it's a friendly competition
bro so it's like to me it's like
but like you said I'm on the West Coast so I think people be
asking me like what you feel about it
I'm like I don't give a fuck
it's about the art
like you said all the fans too
who like both Kendrick and Cole
we're excited to see it
oh god
I want to produce a lot of music
I just want I want the best out of them
so I just want to hear the best
so I can be
yeah
yeah like keep
keep dropping music
keep driving music
yeah I keep on so this is
and I think it's really good
for this next generation
to see that you can
like have healthy competition
you know what I'm saying
where it don't have to end up
like it always has in here
pop with artists like sometimes they have
taken it a little way too far
way too far but it shows you like hey you can still think you
the one and then beef with something like you know
go back and forth with somebody as a people's culturally good
yeah it's healthy it's like fighting instead of shooting
yeah it's fighting instead of show or joning we need to go back
to jones like roasting niggins be it from the west coast
what's your favorite album all time
that's tough bro I'm too I'm too
I'm too all over the place to
have a favorite of anything like what's your go to though okay what's some of your favorites i truly
don't have a go-to give us some of your favorites albums and it could be it don't have to you
don't got to stay in the way you got to give us one that you feel like i'm thinking like being from
the west coast like i know he grew up on a certain type of sound and stuff like that but for you
to just expand so yeah i think with me my mom so i'm nigerian my dad from nigeria action and
okay that's what's up yeah so i grew up at a different like and in my mom she's
her mom is from Louisiana
and my mom is from LA
and oh that's a good
that's a different mixture
yeah she creos so
in the household it was just
never one thing so I didn't just
go up on West Coast City oh so you got someone
Southern and the African
music like he was so like it was just a lot of like
just different type of shit you're like you in a house
full of verses I was just fucking yeah exactly
like literally I don't have
a favorite of nothing because I just
listen to so many different things
so it's really hard for me to say
by my mind trying to be difficult
it's just really hard for me to say
but to give you a few of like
I don't have favorite albums
but the favorite artists
like I can say like M&M
Cassidy
Gwen Stefani
Mark Kerry
I fuck with Gwen Stefani
she slept on too
I feel like we forget how many hits
Gwen came out when in the 90s
yeah what luxury
luxurious
yeah
yeah
that shit was so player
Bones. Bones, Bones, all that shit.
I used to love all that shit.
It's wide, man. It's so wide, yeah.
You in line.
Line in line.
But I like that.
I feel like more artists should be open to different genres, different type.
You don't got to just like regular hip-hop.
You know what I mean?
Good music is good music.
Hip-up is my core as far as, like, how I started rapping, but the genre range is
incredible.
I listen to everything.
If it's good, it's good.
And I know good music.
I could take some music
I would like to believe
So you said you play sports
Growing up, when did you be like, all right
I think I can really rap
Like I think I could really do this
I'm like 17
I met this rest in peace
I met this dude
So it's funny
I grew up in South Central
But then I got bust out to this
I was getting a little bit of trouble
In my neighborhood
And my mom wanted me
Go to another school
She wanted me to go to my home school
So I ended up going to this
Like white-ass school and by the beach
and she was mad because I made friends with all the inner city kids still
so she's like nigga light
but I was like that's who I relate to you felt me
you defeated the purpose
but one of them dudes raps
and he was amazing for his age and
I was like like I said I'm a competitor and I was like if he could do it I could do it
and so like he started and I was doing it
and then we had a bunch of us but me and him were the only ones that kept going
and at the end of the day I was the one that kept going
and then yeah that's how I started
I kept going from that
If somebody is listening to us right now
And it's their first time ever hearing of you
What song would you tell them to go back and listen to?
Oh, so tough.
Or album.
So tough.
I guess cause and effect
That's what I'm known for most is cause an effect.
Yeah.
So I guess it started causing effect
But I've grown so much from that.
I sound younger on that album
I've grown a lot
But the subject matter, the lyricism there
If you could get past the voice
And then like I said,
I was very new to the game and new to rapping
If you get past the bullshit, you'll hear it.
I think causing effects are out there than after that.
Come up today.
You'll see the growth and sure.
What's some things that you really want to see yourself achieve in your career?
Like you like, I really want, if I get this, I feel like I'm good.
Nothing.
I want to be, I want to find peace.
I don't give a fuck.
To be honest, when you sound crazy, I don't give up about none of this shit, man.
You said what?
I said, I don't give the fuck about none of this shit as far as like, I love it.
Don't get me wrong.
I would never do nothing else.
I just want to be happy in life and be peaceful.
I've been through a lot.
So I just kind of like...
As long as you can make music and live.
Yeah, I want to be the best version of me.
I don't have like, oh, I want grant.
I don't want, I don't care.
If it comes, it come, though.
Yeah.
I just want to do the best I can do.
And whatever the best I can do brings, I'll take it.
But you see the progression, though, you can tell?
I see progression.
And that's what matters.
I love progress and I love being better.
So I love that.
But also, the wars don't need shit to me.
it just don't mean
shit to me
I don't know
I just live in the real world
so it's kind of like
I think you don't
reach the point
where you see the bullshit
in it
so it's like
just be happy
with this shit
you gotta find
the happiness in it
I'm happy
I'm not content
I want better
that's a big difference
I do want to be bigger
don't get me wrong now
I'm gonna work towards that
but at the end of the day
I just know
peace is more important to me
so let's see what happens
never happens
that's good though
that's the attitude of gratitude
Like I'm just grateful I'm doing what I love
And can make a living for it
Exactly
Yeah, and bills pay
I can't complain
I can't complain at all
So
How do you see that the festival
Like you know
An expanding in group
From when it first started
How do you feel like that's big
For artists as well
Said it again
Like how the festival
When it first started
Like how it's expanding
And group
Like to the level that it is now
Like
How don't feel about it
Yeah
Like how did you see it
Even being this big
Like
Yeah
Yeah
Because he did, so I believe in that nigga
And the whole team, he cold
The niggas I know from that
I know if they could
They already achieved something crazy
So I had no doubt of my mind
You know
You always got to do the first one
They get the bumps and bruises out
So, you know
It's definitely better
Way better
It's the fourth time
I think so
I think it's the fourth year
Yeah
Yeah so
One year I think
This is way
It's way more organized type of shit
You know what I'm saying
So
And it's like positive vibe
like everybody you don't see nobody on no bullshit
that's the that's the energy of the dream
like the whole squad why I fuck with them
because it's never been no weird shit
it's never been no like
it's always positive
there's never been no fights at none of these things
it's nothing
it's safe yeah it's like it feels good
and like you want that
because you could be your best self
when you just feel safe
like you would judge somebody like
you will find that the dream feel
yeah like if you find that dream
like what's the wrong with you
like you can't go nowhere
yeah we can't take him nowhere
yeah yeah
it's so peaceful man
which is great people complain about that shit with me please who on your radar right now like
who you listening to um that's a good question i gotta i gotta start digging because i'll be in my
i'll be in my shell so much and i've been working so hard on my shit that i think i kind of lacked
listening to new people i just got to be sticking to what i know so i don't really had that
question i mean i'm i'm i know that answer i know that i'm uh i know when i walk on from here
I'm going to be like, damn, I have been listening to so-and-so.
I'm just so bad an on-the-spot questions.
Yeah.
But, uh...
Do you feel like it's hard to create and listen to other people?
I don't think so.
I think it depends on the person.
To me, I like to just...
Like, you got to lock in and be like, I just got to find my zone right now.
It depends on my mood for the day.
I'm moody.
Like, it depends on my mood.
If I'm in the mood to listen to people, I'm listening to them.
If I'm not, I'm just listening to me and I'm going to do me.
It's really depend.
I'm just really depend.
I'm just really.
very like with the wind
type of shit
I don't know
what's sad
Nick
shut up
Nick
give me a drink
honey
oh that's
that West Coast
don't came out
no
so give me a drink
homie
I'm watching
minutes to society
hey homie
hey homie
it comes out
sometimes
I always
want to go
call somebody
a morque ass
nigga
Mark ass nigga
Oh morke
I'm like you're at home
now
you can turn the fuck
up
Buster
What's your sign?
A Libra.
A Libra?
Okay.
What's your sign?
My grandma, Libra.
I'm an Ares.
Yeah, I love Aries.
One of my best friends.
I just had a birthday.
What's your son?
What's your son?
What's your son?
Oh, so you went to Zodiac?
You went to Zodiac?
Do you know?
I just know about the ones that I've dealt with.
Okay.
Yeah, that's it.
It's some good.
I don't judge.
I don't judge nobody else.
Yeah, I don't judge.
I don't judge nobody else.
I made some bad lepers.
You know what I don't, man.
No, for sure.
I'm aries.
I know some areas that I hate.
I hate some of the leavers I know.
Yeah.
Tell me this, because who is somebody like you don't heard recently like you like that is not inspired you but like damn I want to get back to like, you know what I mean?
The studio?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, let me get in the booth.
Right nobody?
Ain't nobody fucking with you.
I think, I think music.
Okay, so if we're talking about, if we're talking about rap like bars and lyrical shit, nobody.
Gotcha.
Except for the, you know.
but
musically yeah
I feel like
I love Tizo's shit
I really do love Tizzo
okay not because he here
but I do
before I didn't even know
he's performing
but
I fuck with Tizo's shit
I'm trying to think
I love
I love uh
I got to look at my
I got to look at what I've been playing
you know what I got to do
I just look at my plate
I ain't gonna do it now
because I don't want to take him
time
yeah
now matter of fact
pull your phone out
well all right cool
let me go to your Apple music
right now
that's how we can see
yeah we need to know right now oh yeah who in your search history let's see yeah oh that's true let's see that
go to your search history i want to know what to let it don't matter in the speculation yeah it could be
some gospel now it could be whatever you've been listening who you listening to homie damn it's been all
old shit old conier old paul that's fine pa oh oh yeah bro this name baby june he had this one song
he had this one song i like um he's from mary he from ellie june oh baby june i'll fuck with larry june
Okay, I thought with Larry June.
Larry June from
from LA or something like that?
I don't know where he's from him.
I just heard a song.
I don't know.
That shit all.
No, no, no.
Okay.
It's much of me because I've been practicing for tomorrow.
Yeah.
So I'm like, he's like, all I listen to me.
All I listen to is me.
Fucking.
You got any new, new projects coming up?
For sure.
Hell yeah.
I just dropped this song.
I just dropped the song last week.
last week
it's that shit called
it's called Victoria's Secrets
that shit hard
than the mother's
Victoria's Secret
So it's for the ladies
No
It's not for the ladies
I don't think so
I mean
y'all can play it
you can decide
I don't think
I think it's for everybody
It's just fun
Okay
What inspired the name title then
Because I say
I say something
So like when I make titles
It depends on what I say in a song
I don't make titles in front
I'll make the song first
And I'll be like
What should I call it
What you said in the song?
You said, bitch, take off your...
One of the main lines is like, I could keep a secret.
Ah, yeah.
So that's, I could keep your secret.
So I was just like Victoria's secrets.
And me said, I can keep your secret saying I...
I fuck you and won't say nothing.
I did something with somebody that I shouldn't have did.
I said, uh, oh, fuck the, I fucked the nominee.
I fucked the Grammy Week.
I fucked the nominee, but on the law.
I could keep a secret.
Ah, yeah.
And so it's like Victoria.
secrets. And when she listens, she knows exactly
who you're talking about. I'm not saying that's
true or not. I could be lying.
I could be lying. I might have
never had to hit a game. It's just
entertainment. It's just
the art. The art. I love the art
of it, baby. That's their players. Well, at least
you keep in the players. Because a lot of
dudes be kissing and telling these days. I've been
seeing a lot of dudes. Everybody's
secret safe with me.
I would tell a soul.
I don't want nobody to tell
nobody on me. Yeah, the fella's been on a
rampage lately talking about
the few months that they're in. They're the new age
niggins. I don't know. I'm old
school, apparently. So yeah,
you said Victoria's Secret out now. It's
out now? Okay. You got to check that out.
Yeah, we're going to go check that out. It's fun.
When you leave, we're going to have to speak and play
that shit. Yeah. Yeah, we're going to check that
out. But no, I'm working on a project, though. I'm working on a
field, so we'll see what happens. Okay.
Well, let the people know where they can follow you
and find more. Your stuff. Yo, where the camera at?
Bing, big, bang. Yeah.
Yo, follow me on Ka. It's Ka. It's Ka. It's very simple.
C-O-Z.
Yeah, I'll finish
I spell it because you know.
C-O-E-O-E-A-O-Z.
C-O-E-O-D-E-A-L-Z.
C-O-D-E-E-E-O-D-E-E-E-L-E-E-E.
That's on everything.
You'll find you on every day.
I've been here for a minute, so don't check me out.
If you don't find
Kyle's
Check out Cody Mac
That's C-O-D-Y
M-A-C
But it's cause first
For sure
Oh god
We're gonna be on the lookout
For all
The rest of your stuff
I'm definitely gonna listen
We're gonna kill out
That Vittoria secret
Now though
Yo play that
Yeah for real
I think y'all enjoy it
Well thank you for pulling up
On us rolling with Batwoods
Wait you smoke
Yeah
You were smoking
I stopped a little bit
But I will smoke at home now
Okay
I used to smoke all day
A couple years ago
But
What would be your go-to
variety of
Batwoods?
I don't know.
I don't fucking know.
You're from Atlanta.
I love them all.
I love them all.
I love Backwood.
Good answer.
Good answer.
Yeah.
I love them.
Yeah, he like.
I love them all.
They're like.
We love them all.
We're like.
We're like.
We're going with us.
We're going to talk.
We're out.
All right.
That was fun.
Hell yeah.
That's your natural, baby.
Yeah.
I knew I wanted
to obey and submit.
I didn't fully grasp for the rest of my life what that meant.
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