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You already know we're rolling backstage with Backwoods at Dreamville, 2024, and we sit in here with none other than Luke. You just hit the stage. How are you feeling today? I feel good. Yeah, I feel good. Usually I'm a nervous wreck, but I feel good. Is it because you're at home? Like you said, you're so close to the crew?

A little bit at home. Like, I got anxiety real bad sometimes. So, like, every time I step on the stage, sometimes I become, like, a nervous ball. But it felt good out there. It felt like home for real. What make you get out your nerves? A little shot of Jameson.

Let me take a shot real quick. Yeah, let's take a shot real quick. A little shot at all. That ain't had you thinking of you anywhere. He didn't know you at home. But you got that shit on, man. I appreciate you, bro. Yeah, I made this a couple of days ago.

I signed my name and the owner of Raleigh Denham signed the inside. But we made this two days ago. I put the fabrics together. He sold it. And I kind of wanted to be like, you know, like your grandma's quilt, some Southern shit. Yeah. I don't know if we can cuss. No, you know, yeah.

We're rocking and rolling. Yeah. You said you're from Raleigh. I'm from Charlotte. No, you're from Charlotte. Oh, you're from Charlotte. Oh, you're from Charlotte. Okay.

Do you feel like it's harder to perform at home or, like, so close to the. crib or it's easier or you like it more when you like in a different you know what to be real with you i still ain't performed at um in charlotte and i've been signed for a minute only reason why i'm like i don't know i'll be having like i be feeling like ain't nobody gonna show up to this shit and i got to get myself out of that yeah you and you know i mean i'd be one i'd be too afraid to see um who fuck with me or who don't yeah because then that's when you gotta start making arrangements once you know you're like yeah that's a good thing too so you can start wean their ass away you be like yeah pull up to this show and then be like 10 people i'm like

damn but i mean i don't know i got to get out of that though yeah and you just got to appreciate the people who did show up and then be like all right back and i see the ones who could grow with you right for real yeah when you keep moving up and stuff like that yeah but like being out here being on the stage like the stage you just came off of like like what kind of high is that though no it's definitely a high like you know you're journaling and be moving my hand still shaking But I even did some new shit out there And it got received really well So, you know, I had a good time

I had a real good time So you got something to take away from it? Mm-hmm, yeah Is anybody you excited, you know what I mean, Network Witnessy while you're here? Like as far as performing? Yeah Don't judge me, but sexy red for show

Boy, yeah! Look, tell me, look, come on, man I just appreciate the art Nah, for real School Boy Q, Tizo but yeah and that's for the day for me like you know that's what I want to see yeah how does that feel to be like you know from the Carolinas and then Dreamville festival then you sign the Dreamville is that something like you always wanted being from the city growing up to be real I ain't know how

this shit was going to go um but the fact that it happened the way it did um it makes it that much more special um because I ain't know if I was going to get signed what I didn't know how this rap shit was going because you know everybody rap yeah you know what I'm saying so I didn't know this was going to go for me but I just kept it pushing and kept manifesting yeah and it happened you know and that's the key yeah so look you from Charlotte and you was able to do a song with the baby how that was yeah that was crazy too yeah you know what I'm like boy I'm on I'm on a song with the baby and cold I don't know I don't know how this verse gonna go I wanted to change the original

verse that I did put on there but everybody fucked with it so much they ain't give me chance to go back in the studio and change it so what you were gonna do I don't bro I don't know I'm like yo look I gotta have something just in case because the thing is I didn't hear Cole's verse or the baby's I was about to say did you hear it afterwards oh I didn't so they snucked it was a blind you know the blind side so I'm like I'm like I don't know man I might have to keep something in a tuck just in case I hear and be like hey put that other verse on you know what I appreciate it so that's

dope no with itself like who else you want to work with that under the label under the label yeah I don't work with everybody except cold but it ain't It ain't no rhyme of reason of that, though. Like, I've always been wanting to... What you mean? You want to be in the studio at the same time with them? Not even that. Even if I got to bounce something around, like a song or whatever.

But I just felt like it's always got to be the right one. Right. Every song that I did with everybody in the camp, it's always been the right one. Organic. Yeah, very organic. I want to just be like, hey, bro, can you help me on this? Then when you come later down the line, it's one that, like, cold would have been perfect.

Because everybody that always hit me up about is always like, yo, you need a hit with cold. It's like, I ain't even, that's not really what I'm searching for. If the song right, it's right. I don't want to force nothing on it. Well, that's a good way to think about it. Then you know how Cole is, bro. Once Cole hop on your shit, this is his song.

So I'm cool. I'm cool with my clown. I'm cool with my clown, you know what I'm saying? But it ain't like I don't want to feature what calls. It's just, I always wanted to be the right one. What's the collab that people wouldn't expect you to want to, like, have a dream collab. You might got. Or just somebody on your list that's unexpected from me.

It was a point of time I wanted to do a song with Tim's. Okay. Yeah. And who else, man? I don't know. I'll be so out of the loop nowadays. It'd be crazy. But, yeah, it was a point in time I wanted to do a song with Tim's.

I wouldn't mind doing a song with School Boy Q. Yeah. When you're not working, what are you listening to? Like, when you're not just trying to, you know, be in. You know what? When I'm not working, I'm just writing. Okay. I don't even really be, like, I journal daily.

So when I'm not working, I just... Well, what you don't do? Like, you come up with your own clothes? Bro, I'm just, listen, I paint, man. I'm in the cars. I work on my own cars and stuff. You know, I make music. I do poetry.

Like, sometimes when I get writers blocked from me rapping, I'll pull up into a, like a spoken word or like an open mic type joint. You listen to him to talk, like, this is who I was supposed to be. That's who you were supposed to be. Yeah, like, this is who your mama wants you to go out to be. I'm not like you the other day, right? You were killing that shit in that house. Yeah, that's all I can do.

I'm talking about like, you do anything. You need aside bowls and all that shit, though. I'd just be trying not to, like, let shit limit me, you know what I'm saying? Just got to express yourself creatively. Like, however a way I can. Yeah. So what got you into the fashion, though? Not having shit, for real.

Not having that, not, because of high school or middle school, I wasn't putting that shit on. I still don't think I'd be putting that shit on. I'll just be trying shit. And putting it together differently. Yeah, like, just doing something. That's fashion. No, that style, really. Boy, you ain't got to worry about nobody else having that shit on.

Yeah, and then it's such a, like you said, a creative piece. That's one of one. I appreciate that. It's a conversation starter. If somebody's got something like that, you know they stole that from me. Yeah, they stole it. Is that an avenue that you would want to explore as an artist, though, like on the profit side of, like, maybe having a fashion line or selling your art?

Yeah, I thought about that. But, like, I'll just be feeling like my anxiety and my attention span don't be like, I don't know enough to be even trying to get some shit together like that i just i'm so sporadic with ideas ain't that crazy how artists the main thing everybody be in their own fucking head i do and i'm always in my head but i'm trying to get out of that though i'm trying to get myself grace okay yeah like i'm learning that i think we all are as artists though do that stop you from working with other artists though with that being said it has but i'm not against working with other artists you know because i did like to collab with you in black like you know what i'm saying so it's certain music but

I ain't know of like, you'd be like, no, I don't want to do that. I love to collab, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, okay, okay, cool. Me, me, being the way I am, it does stop me sometimes for reaching out sometimes. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But, like, no, I love collabing. Because somebody might think you, dope and thank you, you, you know what I'm saying? Right, you know, for sure.

But it's just like a conversation to be had, like, yeah, I want to rock. You know what I'm saying? Do you feel like you'll have something that you got to accomplish in your career there to make you feel like, okay, I really, I'm at that point now? I already did that, even though I might be small to some people. I didn't graduate high school. So when I got the platinum plaque for Under the Sun, that was the first thing I had with my name on it

that said I did something. So for me, it wasn't even about the platinum plaque. Why clap that shit? Yeah, for real, bro. You know how many people got a diploma that don't work that shit? No, like, I got a door to it. So for me, it's like, I can hang this up in my crib. And it's a platinum plaque.

You know what I can hang this up for nothing. Me, nothing at all. You ain't missed none? Yeah. My shit still rolled up. But see, when people say that, it's like telling somebody that's like telling somebody that a work area, they did a car over you get what I'm saying

that's deep it is but that's deep but yeah because you know you know what you would or would or wouldn't do with it I don't even have that option to say I got you got you that's dope though I didn't do this with it because a platinum black way harder than the department I appreciate that I'm still trying to go back to school though because I don't want my daughter

to have the excuse like oh nigga he didn't do it see now you thinking like that that's what's up so you got kids I got a daughter how old is your daughter she'll be 10 in June 10? Okay so she really know what you do now like she knows no She's no daddy artist. Yeah, she do.

What is that like? It's crazy sometimes because she'll be on or she'll come home and be like, yeah, my teacher said, can you, can you come down and do, I'm like. Can you perform and can you come to talk to kids? Can you tell her old day? Can you tell Jay Cole to come do this? Yeah. Has she started to find her own thing yet? Oh, yeah.

Like what do you think? She did. She did bring my mama hair. She'd be trying to break my hair, but I'm like, I don't know where your hands been. But she do a lot of stuff. She be tapping into, like, doing her own clothes and stuff, too. She make beads, like bracelets for her students or her classmates. So it's like little things that I see where I see myself.

And I'm like, damn, this crazy. You can just tell, like, it's her redatory. But I could also see that it's like her own thing, though. I can see her evolving into her own self. And there's nothing you forcing on her. Yeah, nothing. Yeah, yeah. So that's bad.

I was chilling one day, and she was singing some future lyrics. So I'm like, how do you know that? But I was like, you heard March Madness yet? She's like, no, I was like, well, I'm going to put you on. That you put on March Madge. She'll want to walk around singing Future and shit. Yeah, put on my savages, I think. Right, right.

Do you ever, when you create music, are you, like, thinking about that, like, what if my daughter hear this? Or do I care if my daughter hears this type of music? I always wonder what rappers do they be thinking about that. Not in the sense of, do I care what she hear? It's just that if my daughter have questions, I got to be able to answer that. And if I can't answer the question,

then maybe I shouldn't be doing it or I shouldn't be saying it. So you want to be transparent. Yeah, no, I want to be as transparent as I can. So if I can't explain that, because, you know, my father, my dad passed like two years ago. But, like, it was mad questions that I had for my dad that I either didn't get when he was alive and I still can't get, you know what I'm saying?

So for me, it's like my daughter got questions about anything that I do or even, like, in relation to when she grew up and she got questions to how she was raised. I got to be able to answer that. You want to be upset of life. That's good. That's accountability.

Does that come from like your spoken word background? Like, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, because it's like... It just comes from where I was raised. You know what I'm just like? I feel like it's just how me and my dad relationship was. I don't want my daughter to go through that.

Gotcha. And not to say that me and my dad didn't have a relationship, but it's just it was things that I needed that I had questions about that I won't get questions to, or me to answer to. Yeah, that's tough. First album you ever bought? It was Eminem's, Um, fuck, what's the name of that album, bro?

I never forget how I got it. So, I'm from Bates Ford and Charlotte, and they used to be a record store. You know what I'm saying? You already know, foals up. But it used to be a record store on the corner called Willys, right? And the dude that was working at the record store, I was riding my bike. I went up there, Eminem shit, just dropped. I go in there, I had my money.

I had, bro, I had cut, like, mad grass to get this album because that was when I was, like, $14. I went up there Handed it like trying to give brought my money to get the CD He's like nah little man I can't let you do that bro you got to come back up here with your moms He's like I get it to you but you got to come back up here with your moms I like I bet Went to go get my mom's wait till she got out of work

Come up there Get the CD or trying to get the CD And he like nah ma'am I'm gonna be real with you I wouldn't advise you to buy that shit for your son I'm like yo Oh hey you go all the way to do that Anyway

Anyway, my best friend, his sister, he's like, fuck with his sister. Like, he liked his sister. So I told her, I gave him my money, told her to go in there and get the CD. Like, he got the CD for free. She came back, gave me my money in the CD. I went back by that, like, ah, nigger, I got this CD. So was it worth it, though? No, it was definitely working.

Yeah, that was my, that's like literally like one of my first. So you could never forget that. I never forget that. Yeah. It was the album when he was on the dock. It was like the doc, you know what album that is. I know what you're talking about, though. And that's the one with cleaning out my closet on that?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, nah, man, my own advise you to do that because, you know, he on here talking about drugs, popping. So bad. This music. Are you stepping in that? Man, you know where I stay at?

Right. I'm like, right. Exactly. I'm like, right. Yeah. But yeah, that was the first album I bought with my own money. That's what sucks. Yeah.

After this, like, what's, what's next for you? What do you see like, I want to do this? Like, because you can't take this from granted, like, being on a Dreamville festival I never take this for granted, girl. Yeah, so it's like, what can you see next? Like, damn. I ain't gonna lie, I've been trying to, like, dab into a little bit of acting. Okay.

And I want to see what that go, either acting, voiceover work, something. Yeah. So, like, voiceover work, give us a little snippet. Oh, shit, I mean, I ain't, I don't know how that shit goes. There's somebody right now just saying they were looking for a voiceover. If you're looking for actors, I'm with it. No, that's what I'm with it. He don't want to do it.

She, he asked him by the voiceover, man. Because, like, I draw, too, right? So I've been doing cartoons. No, we're talking about the voiceover, man. No, that's part of it. You should draw your own cartoons. Yeah. So you do all the voice on.

Like on an adult swim. Yeah. You'll do all the voices. Something. Let me see you switch up with voice, though. I ain't got no switch up. Do you got a favorite cartoon? Like, what's one of the ones you grew up watching?

I was a Rugrats kid. What's the Angry Beavis? That used to be my shit. All Real Monsters. All Real Monsters. I was just watching that the other day. Y'all never watched Rocket Power. I don't know if y'all remember, like, Prometheus and Bob and shit.

Hell, man. I don't remember Prometheus and Bob. What that was on? It was on Cableam. What the fuck is Cableham? Oh, my God. See, you had all the challenges. Right, what the fuck is Cibblam?

It was on Nickelodeon. Oh, good cable. I mean, even on Nickelodeon on some fire right now. No, Nickelodeon. I ain't trying to shout this. You're that fuck about that. I know, I know watching that shit. But don't nobody remember Cablam?

Oh, what was Cblam? Yeah, some couple people right there. Come on, man. with Steve and all of them shit I was the all that I did watch all okay yeah I know I fuck with all that too yeah they under some fire too yeah oh yeah have you have did it how did it feel ruining your childhood it did it did it a lot I ain't gonna hold you I was mad especially how they did my boy Drake right to my drag and Josh yeah yeah no then my man's dirty yeah yeah it's sad it's unfortunate and it messed it up

Because, like, as a kid, I didn't really know a lot of that shit was what they were... It's just manipulating kids like that. Yeah. Because, you know, when you watch TV, you're like, man, I want to be on TV as a kid. I want to be slime, bro. It's that. And then, like, the parents being like, oh, I want to fuck the money up. Yeah.

That ruined it for me. But as I still, I didn't never think about that shit like that. So they put it up, I'm like, them dirty bastards. That shit ruined a lot for me. So when you say acting, like, what's some of your favorite shows right now? Um What is some of my fellas It's just the own spot

Like my brain My brain be goddamn Or you don't got to be right now Just some of your favorite shows Of all time Like show shows I like Martin Fresh Prince

You can't go wrong with that Steve Harvey show Because I'm rewatching them shit Right now I wish we'll come back out With some sitcoms I feel like we don't really have Good sitcoms right now

My wife and kids was good My wife and kids was funny as fuck Jamie Fox Jamie Fox show You know what a lot of people sleep on though the Wayne's brothers No I feel like

Eric DeWan's brother I feel like people sleep on a different world though It was a little bit I had somebody be like Oh I don't vote with that I think that's a different generation

A different world? Different world? Different world was crazy Different world was cool It was fine It was a little bit older That shit made me want to go to college Even though I didn't get that far

You ain't finished high school You were thinking The head of that shit I was saying early on When I was younger Like yeah college it's going to be five. Well, fuck the hospital.

The house going to be fun. Yeah, yeah. HBCU is going to be crazy. Nah, HBCU is going to shit. If you could have went to HBC, which one would you have been? I'm right down the street from John C. Smith. Okay. Yeah, so I would have went there.

Okay. I went to Graham. So you would have to stay home? I would have stayed home. All right would have went to A&T. Okay. I thought you were going to say A&T. Yeah, I would have went to A&T.

Because everybody screamed A&T, yeah. What's one of the best cities you don't perform then? so far with oakland okay i fought with oakland yeah yeah it make you feel like wherever you from is home yeah yeah yeah i'm real i love Oakland don't feel shit like home i feel like they be i mean i know they be you know what i'm saying i know they be with the shit but like i like being i like being receptive in places where people be with the shit though but they fuck with you you know what they fuck with you like they ain't yeah yeah yeah what's somewhere that you want to perform you haven't gotten to yet whether it's overseas or a certain festival or anything

um probably have to be charlotte huh yeah for real charlotte or um somewhere in like japan or somewhere okay yeah because i don't been over i don't been overseas i don't been uh what 18 countries now damn pop that shit yeah i don't been out of his culture yeah louisette new zealand was like one of my favorite spots in uh south africa new zealand look beautiful i've never been I've been seeing a bunch of the reels on Instagram. You know what I ain't, man. What, you said New Zealand was one of your favorite place in what? New Zealand, South Africa and Australia.

Damn, you went to Australia? What the fuck was Australia like? That shit was crazy. But then Brutcheada played was like, yeah, we got the best, we got the best fried chicken out here. That's what everybody say. I'm like, but I want to solve. I know y'all got a crazy fried chicken I ain't.

In Australia? It wasn't like that, yeah. No. Now, the chicken wasn't like that. They probably don't even season. They probably don't even season. They're bad. So I'm like, who the hell can.

came down here to Australia and was like this chicken is crazy when you get drunk you know all that shit they probably had a shot of that's not crazy bray i only ain't got live and pepper mm-mm right that living pepper make a difference it makes a hell of a difference see i'm glad you came over here bro because now i know if i go over there i need to bring my own yeah bring on chicken my own lemon pepper yeah if i get stopped in tsa for having chicken bro that is now my dog goose always get stopped at tsa where he'd be having nothing that's a thing that's a They just told like that. I don't know if it's the name or what.

My boy Gustavo always gets stopped. Oh, yeah, they stop. You just told, yeah. When we're crossing the borders or whatever. Like, I mean, we're going to need you to. Yeah, we got the flag. I'm like, damn, what goose goes? Goose.

Goose on the search, my boy. Look, you probably walking through with a pound. Goose ain't got nothing of the, some dental floss and some snacks. The yodering and it came. They took my boy Colon one time. Yeah. For real? Yeah.

Like, why? It's the shit that you're supposed to have. They just took the niggins shit Because he wanted it He wanted that scent And he got somebody else got it He had work For you leave

Like what else This weekend What else do you got going Well I had Gold Mouth garage yesterday Which was the car show It was a free event From one and eight Because you're in the cars

Yeah I'm in the cars and stuff Shout out the Losey So um But yeah now I'm to be real I'm just ready to Because now I'm done My job over I don't perform

I'm ready to turn up now I can drink I can drink for real Yeah Oh it's live I ain't really been drinking like that Who you want to stay in Citi Like who you want to see this weekend

I'm saying to see sexy red in Scissor Cicor Coole tomorrow Yeah I don't know when GZ before him Is that tomorrow? Jeezey tomorrow

Yeah I'm gonna see Gizi too So I'm sticking around I ain't leaving until Monday Don't get too drunk We don't want to walk And see you laying in the glass You're gonna see me like that That was the first year

That was my first year That was my first year You're gonna learn Oh yeah I don't learn bro Tell them any other projects or anything you got coming up? I'm working on new music. When I'm going to drop it? I don't know, but I'm working on new stuff.

All right, let them know where they can follow you and stay updated on your thing. My IG and my Twitter is Lute underscore West 9 as well as my, what's it, TikTok. I don't even be on that shit like that. Oh, you got to come out with a little TikTok challenge? I might. I don't dance, but I might. Okay. All right.

He said, I don't dance. You just have some dances around. Yeah. We'll see how that go. Okay. My dog, man. I appreciate you coming through real. Yeah, thank you for talking about the trap.

Stay tap being with Luke. This shit fire, though. I like how y'all got this show up. Yeah, we're just chilling. That how we be with Backwood? 85 south. Yeah. Shout out the Backwood, man.

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