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We're sitting down with artists that just hit the stage yesterday, did his thing, and we had to holl at him. Oh, man, what's up? What's happening? How you doing? I'm feeling good. Clap it off for me. laughing off on yeah no I'm feeling good I um my set went great so I'm you know I'm super happy with that and I was telling how I'm just relieved because I tried something new this I wasn't

stressing but it was definitely on my mind I tried something new this year so I just didn't know how it was going to go but what did you decide to try new and different in your show and what made you so basically uh you know me and my fans it's been an ongoing thing about when when you're going to have new music coming because it's been a long like absence for various reasons but even though I keep telling them the album's done you know they're like where's the music though so I was like man I don't want to come in another year without new music so I want to do something creative and like the album's done but there's some business stuff holding it up right now so I got to figure something out

so basically I was like what if I just wrote a verse live on stage and made something new in front of them and then I didn't know how it was going to go it was a risky move but I did it I never seen nobody do that it went great I've wrote the verse through the notebook in the crowd and it was it was a dope dope moment god that's some true artist type shit to do it was risky bro i was feeling i can't even lie but when it went well i was just so relieved you know yeah for sure so like now that that you're saying that you'll get like out of your own head like to start for sure trying to do more stuff now yeah yeah i think that like one i could do that again but just like you said just

open yourself to open up yourself to just ideas out the box period yeah that's that's freeing too like you did it but did you recite it live on stage too yeah i like i wrote it on stage and then i wrapped it in front of it up and then you threw it so one of your fans got they like i got the day he wrote it and i signed it and everything yeah that's what's up but what what has like led you to that point though to be free and trying new things as an artist like it was the absence or i think it's i'm kind of a stubborn person like it's like i don't care if everybody's doing something that way and it's working it's like if i want to do it this well i'm gonna do it this way that's just kind of my personality but it's like i don't like getting in my own

sometimes you get on your own way like thinking you know everything and it's like i'm just in a space just mentally just in life wise where i'm just i am being free i am like who cares you know like i came out there with a book bag on i didn't know how none of that was going to go you know but it's just like i think this is the time to be free and be yourself because it's so cluttered Everybody's doing a lot of the same things. It's like it's going to take people to take risk. You know, so I just feel like, why not? Instead of criticizing what everybody else doing, like, it's like looking at me.

What are you doing? That's how I look at it. Like, what am I going to do? It's like the criticizing don't do anything for anybody. So I'm just like in a place mentally where it's like, man, just be yourself, just express yourself. And the people that's going to connect with it. Because it seems like if you're going to win, like I want to win being me. On my terms, exactly.

If I'm a lose, I'll lose on my terms as well. Because the other way, it's like, you got to keep that up. You got to keep that facade up. And it's like, that gets tiring, bro. Like, you go in places and you're like, oh, I got to be like this because they think I'm like this. And it's like, no, just be who I am. And if it resonate, then it resonate, you know.

For sure. Now that you feel free creatively, what's something that you want to try or do or implement into your artistry? I think even before this set, just like musically, I've been in a real, like a more free space. like I'm really excited for people to hit an album because it's like it's familiar to like people that know my music but it's I really challenged myself but like I really tried all types of stuff like doing stuff with my voice singing writing different types to different types of production like I'm really proud of this album and so to answer your question is like I'm just going to continue that like I want to try rapping on totally different types of beat than I would ever get on you know like different genres um but just still rapping like what is could i could i make rapping on a house beat dope not just like it sound good but like could i actually is there a way to like borrow up on a house beat

and still make it danceable like those the challenges i think about like how can i be creative but still be myself and think outside the box but push yourself to the limits it's some features on the album or you can't that's business the way you can't talk about it yeah i can't i would say i put i'll tell you one of the songs has rilinics on it um But that's all I was saying for now. Ari Lennox? Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Okay. Yeah. I'm excited to you. You need you to get that being straight, man. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, okay, we do. Okay, so, all right, Linux on there.

If you had to describe the vibe of the album, like, let us know what we can look forward to, to hear. It's hard to describe. It's, um, it's very bobby. I know that's like a cliche term now, but it's like, it's, um, it's hard to, it's like, if you've been ever.

been around, I'm like, okay, my nickname is TDK, which is like, stands for Turned Down King. It started as a joke because I'm just always mellowed and it's like I just started owning it. Like, yeah, I'm TDK. Like, but the music is I'm not to cut you up. We're homeboy gave you that nickname. Oh man, bro.

We was on a, um, we was actually on a, it was years ago, we was on a tour bus. And we had a he was in Virginia. Oh, man, it's on TDK. We was in Virginia on a, it was like a party on a bus. Yeah. And I was just chilling. Like I had a drink. I wasn't even I'm just chilling. And my homie, like, he's just looking at him.

I'm like, what? He's like, bro, you don't only nigga that could play the wall in the middle of the party. And I'm like, he's like, you turn down king. Like, you're TDK. And it's tough. They all kept saying. And I was like, oh, shit, I got to get the heat off me. Like, so I was like, I'm just on it.

So I put it in a song. Like, yeah, I'm TDK. And then the fans started, like, latching on to it. So then the joke was over. Like, because it was like, yeah, that's it. But, long story short, it's like, I'm just a real mellow dude. Like, even when I'm excited. you can't tell like you're like yeah it's hard to tell so it's like I think some people think

like you're okay but I'd really be cool it's just I'm just mellow so just chilling just chilling so I would say the music kind of reflects that but it's real detail like I'm from anybody's been like where you've been it's answered in the album like I'm telling people my story and just kind of using even like vulnerable moments like stuff that might be embarrassing it's like because I feel like we got to be honest like it's again going back to like just B-S-L. Like, just, you know, what's, what's, I don't see any harm in it. This absence that you talk about, how long was it? Oh, man. It's, so this, it's a long story, but basically I had an album called Elephant Eyes that came out, 2000, I want to say 15. And it ran into some, again,

some business issues. And they had, it was like some sample clearance issues. So we had to take it off of streaming. It was just a real headache. And it happened at a time when, like, I wasn't prepare like I was still it was still growing basically so I had done like a small tour for it and everything and then um just a series of events happened where it was just taking longer I had a child the pandemic just a lot of a lot of things was happening that was like I was adapting so you know it's a lot of reasons why I happen some of it just overthinking really and so that was really explaining the absence some of us some of it was out of my control like some stuff is just business people not doing their job so it's been a total like nine years

Has it been that long? Shit. I was going to say what. Well, this is 20, yeah, this is 204. It's almost be nine years. It's crazy. Yeah, so it's time. You know what I mean?

Yeah, I've had new music out, just not an album. Yeah, just put it like a complete workout. Yeah. I bet fans are looking forward to hearing that too. Yeah, I can't post anything without them like, okay, but where's the album? You know, I, some people... You can post a picture of your child. Anything, yeah.

It's like, what are a happy. I'm happy Easter, but what a house? Literally. Happy birthday again. But I appreciate it because it's like They could be not asking at all You know that's how you know That's how you know it's anticipated

But see I would say this though Even with your hiatus in the game To still be on the Dreamfield festival line up Like that Man that's just love You know what I mean I don't take that for granted

Yeah So it's like even though you say You know what I mean You're the turn down king Like I know you'd be like shit They still want me out here though I mean When I say that turned down

I don't say that with like Like I'm saying And you still a show like, yeah, I'm not saying that with like, I'm not confident. I'm confident. I'm owning that. It's like, yeah, I'm a mellow dude, but like I got something to offer. You know what I mean. So, yeah, that's what I mean by owning it.

It's like, yeah, I'm a mellow, okay? Like, okay. Would you feel like one of the biggest lessons life taught you or the game taught you from being in that position for nine years? I would say, I mean, it's going to sound generic, but just like, get out your head. Like, I was, I was so, because of what. happened with my last album it was like it was like a cult classic to my fans and then it got snatched and then I was like oh I got to put some out quick and it got to be classic so I put crazy amount of pressure on myself to make the most amazing possible songs I could make and it was

like nothing I was making was good enough to me because I was just in my head but really the songs was good enough and so I would say the thing I learned really is just one get out your head and two like to be free because life is going to change you got to adapt it's like having a child really changed me it's like that's the first time i real i before that my only responsibility in life was my career for real like so that taught me like just being a man and like realizing everything might not go exactly how you plan but it's how you react how you adapt sometimes how you react could be worse than what actually happened to you so um speaking that's what i'm okay let that sit for me but now even that that gives you some more to even to talk about like

you know what I'm saying you talking from a different like perspectives of life Yeah, Lynn's like, because like you said, you really had no responsibility but your career, but now it's like, I see life totally different. Yeah, totally different. Shit, it's a lot of our dads. We need that music, too. Exactly. I was just telling somebody, I had a song, I actually performed it today as a song of my album called Permanently.

And it's a line in there, it ain't a bar, nothing to me. I would just, it would just be an honest, which this line was just like hoping I could be a better father. And I remember playing it up for somebody that was like, oh my God, they hit me. so hard. I was like, oh, like, I'm thinking the punch lines. Yeah. And it's just going to resonate. But they're like, no, we just like, nobody's saying that, being that honest. People want to feel connected

to artists. Now, they want to feel like we're going through the same things or you been through what I've been through. And, you know, so I feel like they're looking forward to that. Well, you got to think about it. You, when you speak of your fan base and they listen to your music, but they hear that like, I got to be a better father. Like, wow, I was thinking

that same shit. That's confirmation. They're going to think that's confirmation. But the bars, like, that's going to, they know you're going to bring that. Sometimes they go over your head at the bar. So it's like, and it's like, if I'm being honest, a bar is like, oh, that's clever. But like you said, it's different to something that you were going through yourself. It's like, oh, I'm going through that. So, yeah.

Any dream collapse in the industry? Dream collabs. Yeah, I mean, it's a lot of people. Top three. I love to work with Lori Hill before she, you know, before she exit. Don't we all and I don't even make me. You know, I don't know how likely, but I would love that. Man, I love to work with Nas.

That's just, again, before, is I'm trying to catch my heroes before they leave. I mean, Drake, who else? It's a lot of people. I'm blanking, but it's a lot of different people I would want to work with. And that's a different, like, general. I should say some singers, too. I mean, Jill Scott.

For sure, Jill. You know, I like Cizzer. Everybody loves Cizzo. Her last album was amazing. Amazing. Did you get to see it perform last night? I saw half of it, and then they got a hell of cold. It did get cold.

I was like, I got to get out of it. But, no, her set was dope. Yeah. You left before she did the split? I didn't see the split. Oh, man. Damn. She did do a split.

You know, scissors thick and fine. It was nice. You missed the most, well, not the most important. I know what you said. I missed the highlight. My bad. So good. I ain't going through PR training.

No, I see no real talk. I seen in your Instagram bio, you said you're the black Larry David. What make you say that? Because you know Larry David is a comedian here, writer. Yeah.

So it's really based off like his character on his show, Kirby enthusiasm. Okay. So like if you watch that show, he just, he's just crazy. Like he,

it's the way he looks at stuff. So I would say I think like him. But, like, every time he do something, I dare near agree all the time. I wouldn't do it because some of the other things. It's like you just being an asshole. Yeah, he's being an ass. But you can see. But I can see why he's doing it.

It's like, I wish I could do it in real life. Like, but I just resonate with him. And the show just, it's just funny as hell. I just love that show. Yeah. Do you like comedy? I love comedy. I was literally, and it's still in the process, but I took a break from it to make sure I get my album out.

But I was writing a sitcom, actually. Oh, that's what's up? Based on. I lived in New York a couple of years. and the sitcom was kind of like it was based on me a little bit was more so based on like the personal life of a rapper like what's what's going on behind the scenes so and just kind of like it was based it was a sitcom so it's based on my personality being kind of quiet and passive but living in New York City where it's ain't no time to be past you know like I was always in an

awkward situation because of that so it's still going to happen that New York life different it's different it's way I mean I'm coming from Chicago but it's like it's faster it's like even even then I feel like in Chicago like it's still like a sense of like people will speak for sure. Really? Yeah New York I didn't know. Yeah Chicago Chicago is really like

from the south. So it's like they still got a little bit of that Southern hospitality a little bit but yeah New York is it's a different beast but I will say when I first got to New York I was mean mugging everybody because I was just used to that in Chicago like and I remember Oh you fit right in then? But they was looking at me like

what's the issue I'm like I ain't even realize I was doing it you know so but yeah I love New York it was just it was kind of fast though yeah you should keep writing a sitcom that'll be dope yeah I want to I want to who you listening to it if you're not listening to your own music right now

who's somebody on your playlist that you probably like we wouldn't even expect for you to be wouldn't even expect I would say it's this artist he's not a rapper he's not a I mean he's a singer but it's like a I don't even know what genre to call it um his name

It's King Crew, K-R-U-L-E. I think he's from overseas, but I can't even describe it as music. It's like rock, jazz. It's something different. I never heard anything like that. Okay. I think it's just because I'm in the space I'm in of wanting to hear free different. It's like when I hear it, I'm like, even some of it, I might not love, but I'm like just the fact that he took the risk to try that.

So it's not really inspiring with like. No, but I was about to say, I was about to say, and I think that's dope because people, when you think of inspiration, you always think it got to. be the greats, but it could really just be something new and quirky or different and it just piqued the different part of your imagination or creativity. It's just like somebody trying something different and it sounds good

and it being dope. Oh yeah, that's like that's inspiring enough. Yeah. What you think about Cole and Kendrick right now? I mean, you know, it's the talk of the time. Obviously like they two heavyweights. You know, I got respect for both of their pens so you can't

you can't take lightly on neither one of them. But Come on, I'm a home team. No, but I'm saying when you heard the seven minute. Would I think about it? I mean, I was, first of all, I was, I was happy he responded. I wanted him to respond. Yeah, you know, like. And I was surprised.

I didn't think he was going to respond. I wasn't sure. I was pretty sure he was. I knew he was going to respond. I just didn't know when. Yeah. But I was, you know, I was glad he responded, not just because it's home team, but just because, like, this is a hip-hop fan.

Like, we all watch, Nize and Jay-Z. We all seen how cool that battles were, Jay Dickens and Beanie Siegel. Like, so to see two heavyweights with sharp pins going at it, you know, it's dope. It's like, it's fun. It's inspiring. But you could just tell Cole just through a little light jab. I mean, for sure, it's just a light jab. Like, I feel like I really want to see it go there because I feel like, you want to see the last round.

I feel like he wanted to. So I just want to see where, you know, I want to see the capability. Because that's what he was like, that's a nigga, you're trying me. Right. Yeah, yeah, like... Did you forget? Yeah, let me show y'all who I am. I think it's just, it's for the sport of it, you know?

For sure. If you're gonna, you're gonna claim that number one spot, prove it. That's really what it is, you know? I love it. I'm excited. Anybody that you think is up next that you feel like people don't know about that's like... Well, you could put us on. I know you said King Crew.

King Crew. Somebody, you know, like... I know, I'm trying to, I'm trying to. It's like the last, like, I want to say damn near seven months, I've been just listening to my album and try to fix it. But let me, let me think. We're ready to listen to it too now. I know, man. I'm trying to think.

What am I listening to this? Especially that R and Linux, so. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I can't wait to hear that. Because you could just tell, like, both of y'all, like, musically, like what? Like, miss, like, I can tell. What was the, did y'all working to do it in the studio together, or did you have to send it to her? It's kind of a long story, but it's like, um,

I'm real close with her and her producer, Ron Gilmore. Well, Ron Gilmore was working where at the time, but they did like a jam session one night just playing around. And they weren't even going to do that with it. And he was playing it. And I was like, what's that? He's all, this is some shit me I already did last night playing. I was like, send me that.

So I literally chopped it up like a sample and made a beat out of it. And then, like, I don't want to give too much away. But when you hear it, you know what I'm talking about. But, you know, me and Ari, I don't know if y'all know, me and Ari go way back because she was on. On that album, Mellefinized in 2015. And then I was, like, playing her music all the time for the crew. And it just was an organic thing.

And it was playing it. And that's how she kind of, like, became with Dreamville because it was just an organ. We was all playing her music. So I've always been a fan of her. So it's like to see her and how her career, like, blossom. It's amazing, bro. Yeah, I know you was like. It's just a good feeling.

It's like. It's like. It's a warm feeling for you. Like, damn. Not only because I feel like she's a good person, but like just the talent. It's like. Yeah, she's really talented. Her voice is amazing.

Yeah. So it's just to, even if I play a 2% role in helping people hear that, that's like I'm honored. You know what I mean? Yeah. Did you meet, have you met anybody along the way where you were like, damn, I didn't expect to run across fast with them? Like Starstruck type moments or maybe? I would say meeting Dr. Dre was crazy because I was in a, I was in like the lobby of a studio actually making a beat with headphones. and he walked up and like tap me and I was like he knew who you were I don't even know if he knew

he said you had on his headphones yeah he I had on headphones and he saw my computer like so he like what you're working on and I like look up like what the fuck is Dr. Dre you know like that's crazy so that was a crazy moment um I would say crazy that's yeah it's crazy that's yeah it's fucking dream I would say jZ meeting jZ was I never really you know how they say people got like her aura about them like I felt that like I was like shit like this what they're talking about like yeah and I remember like I don't really get

Star Shruck I mean I appreciate people when I meet them but I usually just tell them how I feel but I felt the Starstruck I was like damn like I was like nervous and I was like nothing I said something but I was just like oh man I'm big big fan I was like I'm thinking of my head like man man what you doing? Because the energy to presence

you were saying you felt his aura it was so weird I'm not usually like that so but it's but it beat artists like that too That TVK I didn't play it cool Exactly Exactly Turn down king

Yeah But yeah Those was a couple moments I say meeting comment Because he's from Chicago I grew up listening to him That was like a home time That was a moment for me

Yeah I would love to meet Nas Because that's probably my favorite Rapps Top five rappers are all time I gotta ask you I gotta ask you Because when you

The list you've been throwing out there You don't see it Naws come Yeah I mean honestly It ain't got to be in order okay it's changing um i'm gonna say nis just because i have to i'm gonna say j z um man this is tough uh nice j z i'm gonna go i'm gonna go even older i'm gonna say rakem only on the reason i'm saying

rakem you can that's your you can rock the reason i'm saying rakem is because none of us would be rapping or we rap unless he rapped how you did like so you got to give like so he said the foundation the whole before that everybody was rapping like a hip it was the different type of style you know what I mean so you got to put him in there um I must this might be controversial and people might think I'm biased but I'm gonna put coal in there because I don't know that that's that ain't controversial I feel like you that sharp you know I mean um the fifth one this is really

tough damn this a tough one I'm going to say, even though if I'm being honest, I'll give it a slight little asterisk, but I'm going to say Andre 3,000. And the only reason. Why the asterisk? Why the asterisk? Just listen. Just listen.

Why? For what? The only reason, first of all, he's amazing. To be one, number one? The only reason I'm saying is because everybody else I listed, they have tons of solo albums. Oh, God. Well, you got to write three verses every song. So obviously, he got the ability.

to do that and I would love to hear that but I'm just saying he hasn't done it yet so that's the only reason I get a little asterisk but I feel like if he did do that he might go to number one I mean technically he did do it but he didn't do a bunch of them yeah I mean the love below is my favorite of all right I'm about to say the love

below do count because that was his own solo album for sure for sure but yeah okay I like that fine I ain't mad at the list you know who I'm surprised you didn't put on the list being from Chicago Kanye I don't know why how you feel about Kanye Kanye being from Chicago music I am I am kind of surprised I didn't put him in there. You ain't mentioned Kanye the whole time

and I don't know. I thought just because Dubai be in the Chicago. Kanye was a huge influence on me. Like he was one of the first people that showed me like, oh, you could rap and you don't have, you can rap and, like, resonate with people even if you don't have the same story

as like Jay-Z or Biggie. Like, I wasn't a street hustler. I wasn't a game member. Like, he showed me to like, oh, you could be, you don't have Like, before that was kind of corny to do anything else. He made it, like, cool to be normal. Like, so, you know, and just, obviously, all the creative projects he made, even into his best.

Yeah, yeah, just, but he had a gift, you know, with, like, being able to be, say, like, real shit in a funny way in a way that, like, kind of what we were talking about earlier, just real shit that resonates. Join IHeart Radio and Sarah Spain in celebrating the one-year anniversary of IHart Women's Sports. With powerful interviews and insider analysis, our shows have connected fans with the heart of women's sports. In just one year, the network has launched 15 shows and built a community united by passion. Podcasts that amplify the voices of women in sports. Thank you for supporting IHart Women's Sports and our founding sponsors, Elf Beauty, Capital One, and Novartis. Just open the free IHeart app and search IHart Women's Sports. Sports, to listen now.

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