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Episode Date: November 24, 2023

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I did. I knocked one. You know what I'm saying? Back in the day. Because they get knocked now. Huh? They get knock now. You know what I'm saying?

It ain't new. It ain't nothing new. Hey. Hey. Hey, but it's a cold twist to it. game no more. It's insanity. No, yeah. You feel me? So y'all know I'm gonna have to sprinkle. I come

with you, but I gotta late this. I gotta tell the truth. You feel? There's too many of us out here. We, you know, we're dying and don't even know why the hell we live in. Come on. Real. For real. For real. For real. I love what y'all got going. Thank you. Thank you. I love you. I love you, sir. And y'all get to sit around and just Check it. Y'all getting paid and traveling the world, checking it.

I mean, look at the work we do outside the camera. I had to find you. I already know. What I'm saying, it's a part of your journey, your passion. You ain't out somewhere doing something because you've got to get paid. And you ain't knocking on somebody over the head. I can't stand a thing. Hey, no disrespect, but that ain't no game.

And I get upset. Every time when you walk, see y'all don't have it, much. But in the town, man, they're busting windows and robbing people's cars like, it ain't nothing, bro. They're doing a hit. I know y'all were. They doing it? Man, we got it bad. Man, they're doing it bad out there, bro. They said, you got to bring the national

gun out there. Man, it's bad. But we didn't, we, like the brother said, as a culture, we didn't let shit get out of hand. We let, what they call, the Asians become the mayors. They're running everything and letting us run ourselves into the ground. Right. You feel me?

Damn, we don't have a mentality because we stuck on I got to get mine to see the game being played on us. Yeah, and man, that's a cold piece. I know you can sing the change

Is this to everybody? Same to change, yes. Just say everybody? It ain't even, it ain't, you know. All right, we'll turn the cameras on. What you got to do to keep your energy. Clacks, play me some pimping, man. Yeah, yeah.

You're gonna go? My fuck walk up and he ain't get a contact for real. I thought about when I walked there, everybody had the blood. You feel me? Hey, crazy part, we were doing this before the cameras. We was doing this in his living room. We were doing this in goddamn, yeah. It's a mobile party.

We've been international You feel me See? See Yeah, we got music for every culture, bro Okay See? You don't even know what that is right there It came on like the 80s

Biddy Bum Bum I put Saline on now Bidie Biddy Bum Bum You don't even know I'm gonna hit two cultures with that one It's gonna be Well, I'm going to hear the Africans, the African-Americans, the Asians, and the Hispanics. Anybody from the Western Pacific Islands going to feel that? Whoa.

What about the Samoans? Lower Mexico. Most definitely. See, that's going to go crazy. I might put a future on now. I don't know. Hmm. You see what I'm saying?

And just to get the Hawaiians on it, I might throw a little ukulean now. You see how it came in right when I... There you go. Don't play with me, man. Let's see it right there. You don't even hear the little oboe overtones on there. That's the oboe. Oh, that's the Andre D.000 flute.

Exactly. That's who really need to be on it. Man, that boy, a bass. That's an artist, for real. Man, I think him whatever he wanted if I had an album and he said, hey, I want to talk. Just leave him in the room. I want a hug.

You know, just give him some water and some weed. He don't want him. He don't want no weed. He don't want no weed. He probably won't record in the studio if somebody smoked in there that week. Oh, he didn't got that. He went over there. He is weed.

Hey, this is a great song, I call it that instrumental to do the intro today Because it sounds royal It sounds real royal Real regal real regal It sounds like it got some prestige to it It sounds like it stood the test of time And aged like a fine cognac Come on

Now, we really thought we were doing something when we were bringing our ghetto legends on the show. Come on. But then, we learned about more ghetto legends. Through one of our ghetto legends,

he told us some of the most magnificent tales Oh, come on, man. Of black man ism. Ism. Made me go do my research. my homework. I had to search high and low.

It hit different. I had my glasses on. I was real studious with this because I couldn't believe the things that was saying this man, his legend precedes some of the coldest tales of street adventures. You see where I'd clean that up. Street adventures

from middle school to the streets to the town business. Town business, baby. None other that. O.G. Frank the Banks.

Yeah. Frank the bank. Come on, man. Welcome to the 8th. I feel at home, baby. You are at home. Yes, I am. You are at home.

Yes, I am. How you been? Man, I've been good, man. You know what I'm saying? Sticking and moving, moving and grooving. You know what I'm saying? No faking it. You know what I'm saying?

Shaking it, baby. Come on. You know what I mean? So it's an honor. You know what I'm saying? I didn't come to riddle and rhyme, but I'm in my time. You know what I'm saying?

With the freaky-tail shots out to two short. Most definitely. You know what I'm saying? Exactly who put us up on you. And the coldest part about it, it was a little bit over a year, and he told you to give shots out to my boy, Kenny Red, rest in peace. It's a year and a month. You know what I'm saying?

When this show had aired, so it ain't by chance that I'm here. Right. You feel me? And sitting on this couch, man. Y'all know y'all crazy as fuck. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, man, like, you know I'm spoiled, right?

Okay. So, you know, the manager, she hooked, you know, which is my wife, you know, the gaming change, all right? Hello. The kids send me now, you know, I got four daughters and two sons. One of my sons, shouts out, Jugg, he's still in the game, you know what I'm saying? He's pivoting going north. I ain't, you know, hey, get to do what you do. But it's a difference now, you know what I'm saying?

Because, like, when I was coming up in the game, wasn't no trafficking. We weren't hijacking holes, you know what I mean? you know what I'm out of Oakland if anybody didn't know the big old baby so like we you know you got down or got a leg down you know what I'm saying I ain't gonna drop no names so there was a lot of them that was in the game

and they was trying to get me to be on Nate lang you know what I'm saying I started pimping at 14 I started hinting pimping at 14 I started full-fledged pimping at 15 hold on you guys you got what's the what's the hinting is when you're trying to get the girl to go you know what I'm saying

when you're seeking out your mama You know what I'm talking about because I still was in school. So I'm sneaking out of mom's house, you know what I'm saying, tiptoeing. I ain't got a job, I ain't got no car yet, but I got a boy that got a car. That's what I'm talking about happening. And then I'm getting over to the track, you know what I'm talking about. And I got all them grown men trying to, you know, tell me to get in their car and try to spit at me so they can get my game.

So I'm hinting pimping, I'm learning the game, you know what I'm saying? But I'm self-employed, you know what I'm saying? So I, by it took me, you know what I'm saying, go through that little, that little trimet. Then by 15, brother, look here, I was too deep. Because I felt like one, she might get jealous, might try to, you know, play them emotional games, but if I got two, that's going to keep her busy.

You feel me, keep in the competition. So I always had the mindset of an entrepreneur, not an entrepreneur as an entrepreneur. You know, I always had the mindset in the town. It made me grow up fast. In my household, everybody thought They was, you know, like, you look like me. You want to be a player, a gangster, or whatever.

I didn't have no dad in the house that, you know, was teaching me how to take care of the women or be, you know what I'm saying, decent in the community. I had hustlers. I had gangsters around me, so that's what happened to me. And when I looked up, you know what I'm saying? I went from, I used to dance and whatnot, so I went from Pony Express to the Playboy Smith to Frank the Bank.

Okay. And, you know, I was like, It was two of them. Check us out, gee, what would you do to do? I'm 15 years old. I'm 14, going on 15. I got a 22-year-old and a 24-year-old telling me I could do it. Now, I'm still a baby.

Now, everybody wants to throw stones and whatnot at the P-I-M-Ps. But the women got something to do with this stuff, too, and it's different stories out there. Right. But at 14, I got a 22-year-old or 24-year-old. telling me I can do it. And by, did I say that it was fine? Are you going to get to that?

You ain't caught? That's on that yet, now? The sisters was fine. So the next day, they come through and they got, I didn't know about, I didn't know then. It was called traps. You know, I had one, I ain't going to never forget it as long as I'm black. I had one give me $325 and the other one gave me $2.27. And I wasn't even pimping yet, but I didn't understand what it was at $2.27.

How come it wasn't $2.30? How come it wasn't $2.40, $2.50. That's what I knew I had it in me, baby. You know what I'm talking about? I'm talking about it's some money missing, man. It's some money missing. You know what I'm feeling? I'm like this whole thing up in it, you know what I'm saying?

She didn't stop that doggy dine or something, you know? That's how my brain started working. So, bless God, man, when I looked up, I was in it to win it, you know? Straight up, you know, wasn't no sugarcoat, wasn't no plan. I'm sneaking out the house. I'm going to school in the daytime, getting my grades, doing everything, and as one of y'all said, I wondered it was he pimping on the teacher.

Wasn't pimping on the teacher, but I checked the money because I used moms. I said moms had one of them PGE bills that need to be paid. And the teacher, you know, women let you know when they like you. See, we all think that, you know, we're running shit, we big time, we dis, we that.

Man, them women running it. Right. Check this out, man. They already then sized you up and know if they're going to mess with you or not. How many of y'all ever been to a club and you're scared to walk across the floor to ask mama, she's going to dance

because, you know, she might tell you she don't want to. She already knows for you to get across that floor if she's going to dance with you or not. She did something to pull you over there most of the time. They run the show. We ain't running shit. Did I say that out loud? They ain't running nothing.

They run this. That's real, though. I said it. Straight up. They run this. I believe that. You know, so my journey and, you know, Like I told that, I say it went from pimping to parenting to the pulpit.

Right. Wow. I kept the pee in it. Yeah. You feel me? I kept the pee in it back. You had the PPP before the PPP. You know?

No, you just don't understand for our generation. It's just like just to talk to somebody who was out there. You know, at the height of. It's still out there. Yeah. I still got a, you know what I mean? Like, I'm here. Like, when I say y'all crazy, like, I ain't never paid my own fare to go nowhere.

Hello. That's perfect. You know what I'm saying? But I believe in y'all. Let me take these off so you can see my eyes. I believe in y'all. And I love what y'all doing. You know what I'm saying?

And when Short came on the show, in case somebody didn't see it, Short said, protect the bag. We always been in a bag and don't even know it. Why do you think they go out of their way to kill us and devise us and murder us and lynch us? Y'all know why I got this crown on? Because my spirit man asked me what I stopped playing with being a king and be a king. He said, and my spirit man, because I don't look for the Jesus in the sky and I don't do all that. Been there seen that done that. Don't fit me.

Greater is He that's in me than he just in the world. You feel me? So I know I'm a God in this earth. earth realm. And then my spirit man and say, will you stop playing? You got you a leader. I didn't brought you through all this. And you put the crown on for entertainment. He said, but will you wear for my namesake in a time where people that look like you being choked out? Remember the brother out of New York got choked out just for having the cigarettes selling the cigarettes? So in my spirit man, I'm like, okay, I do it. I told my family we was going on a cruise.

my son did not like it oh my god he was he was not cool with it so I had to do the teaching and educating that black man you know we we are who we are as royalty we didn't start this from slavery and I know that's what they teach you in school and you are uncomfortable when you're sitting in them desks in here and they mocking us and whatnot I said let me let me let you up little daddy And it took about eight, nine months for him to feel good with wearing his crown without me telling him, man, I'm going to go.

You coming? Because I didn't want to be in public with mine on it. My little daddy didn't have his own. But I couldn't force it on him. So I had to keep educating them as I was being educated. It ain't for a look. It's for the hook. Because my people need to see that we are royalty.

You know what I'm saying? Don't nobody say nothing to what they are, the other culture, with the turbines. What are they again? Yeah, them, them brothers and sisters. Don't nobody see them, don't nobody ask them, don't anybody ask them why you got that on? And I tell y'all, in the three years, I think going on four years now,

I've been rocking it. I ain't even had a handful to, you know, get at me like, oh, is that a Burger King? You know, every now I did, I got to check them about, oh, like your hat, no, it ain't a hat. It's a crown. It's a crown, for real. And I've been crowned while I'm living.

I'm living while I'm here. You know, as I come through the game, the insane and the membrane, you know what I'm saying? 16 years in and out of crack. You feel me? Five years of being in a day prison. Five years, what was that? 13 different prisons, nine different county jails,

four attempts on my life. And two of them, the guards, was involved. So I'm not sitting on your couch, man, and just acting like, you know, whoa, no, it's a story up in this mother. You feel me? And I'm blessed to be on this couch, man, straight up. When the brother first got at me, we're going to talk to him later on. He ruled that a mother.

I ain't going to say no names appoint no producers or nothing. Now, you feel me? That ain't my job, right? But he said, we didn't took, he said, no, we don't pay for travel, and we don't do this, and we took him off the show me. I'm like, he's straight about his business, right? He takes shit, we then took him off the show. If he in town another time, y'all hook up with us, and I'm like, oh, that's game.

No, no, no, no, no, y'all better hear me, you know what I'm saying, from the bottom to the top. I'm like, oh, keep an expensive down. You feel me? If you don't know who you are and you don't know. know who they are, then, hey, we see you when we see you. You know, so I'm like, man, that's keeping expensive down. So then when I'm coming in, I'm coming in, whatever he did, God, damn. I'm coming in town.

He said, hey, I love him, my ready. And he looked like my nephew. He said, well, OG, anything we can help you with, let me know. Shit, I ask for something else. He said, we don't do that, OG. And then again, keeping calls down Because I said, well, can you send me a ride or something? Yeah, I said a ride.

Can you send me a ride? So I'm just messing with him now. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, send me a ride. I already got the Uber ready, feel me? He said, well, normally we don't, you know, we don't send rides. And is there another way? And the first thing clicked in my brain

because when you send somebody out, you don't really know them people. You don't know what you're going to get involved in. So that's drama. It might be drama. Like when I got here, the lady told me somebody Uber had passed her some weed to pass off. So it's all kind of stuff, man, that, you know what I'm saying? I love how y'all function.

You feel me? As a family, when I walked in there wasn't no mug, even, none of that, everybody was blunts everywhere. Thank God. Hallelujah. You know what I'm saying? You're going to get a contact and nothing else up in this B.I. You know? So, like I said, I felt right at home, right at home, man.

So, you know. We want you two, bro. Man, man, man. But it didn't shift it up, baby. You know, I always say we call it gang, but we don't even know the plays. You know what I'm saying? Straight up. You know, we've been raised and raped and our coach had been manipulated and stole

and told all kind of stuff that ain't even. us. You know what I mean? So I'm sitting here today at 60, like saying, damn, I got to say it out loud. I made it. You feel me? From the gunshots, from, you know, the, you know, they'd be wanting to kill the pimps, you feel me? And I had contracts on my life. You know what I'm talking about? Because I was a little baby. Or just from the street shit. Yeah. Say that again? From other pimps or just on some street shit? No, it was always the PIs and other pimps shit

and other, you know, robbers of the game. You know, folks, you know, especially our coaching, you know what I'm saying? If you don't know who you are and you see somebody else shining and whatnot, we've been taught that crabs in the barrel. And see, and then at the time, I was young, you know what I'm saying? Flashy.

Man, they got a bad mouth and fight fast. So I didn't even know I was creating that energy. You know what I'm saying? But I'm running around five, six, seven. I was nine deep at, you know, 17. That's what I was just about to ask you. When you go from starting out with two to becoming Frank DeBank? Man, I was Frank to Bank when I had the two, though.

Word. Let's a let's a let's say, a pony express. Yeah, I was a dancer, Pony Express, Playboy Smith, and then I went to Frank the Bank. I did name myself, the streets, man. Let's be clear. The streets are already, you know what I'm telling you. You know what I'm saying? I heard that.

You know what I'm saying? At a very young age, I knew how to save. You know what I'm saying? Like, sure to tell you, I had the briefcase and whatnot. Wasn't no weed in there. Wasn't no money in there. It was my work assignments. You know, other people carried backpacks.

I had a briefcase, you know. But I was always stacking. I would leave at lunchtime, go to the bank. You know what I'm saying? Put my little chips up. It wasn't my grandfather. You know, back in the day when, you know, men didn't tell you that they loved you or we didn't get them hugs.

You know what I'm saying? You just were supposed to know. He would do his due diligence, pay the bills and whatnot, and I was supposed to knew. But every now and then, I'd quiz him and talk to him and, you know, pick it up out of him. But I made sure as I became a dad, I did that. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney,

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Oh, man. And man, shout to all my daughters. fabulous. I got a daughter named Fabulous. I got a daughter named Fantastic and I got a daughter named Essence. I thought you was about to say amazing. I was like, boy. And then I got my little juju bear. You know what I'm saying? My daughters, bro, they be like at my helmet. You know what I'm saying? Especially fabulous and fantastic. They think they meet. You know, and that's too much me up in one house. You know what I'm telling about? But the parenting thing, man, it shifted the game, it shifted my mental

because I looked at how, you know, the most how I gave me girls first. You feel me? So I ain't crazy. You know, I was raised, right? So I seen the message. Right. So I made sure, you know, they seen me opening doors and so on and so forth. I opened their doors, you know,

from the young age. And I always had that maternal thing, DNA inside me. My baby brother, Chautau, I used to get up with him in the, in the we, we hours, change his diaper and feed him his bottle. For my mama, she's sleep.

Then I get up and go to school. So I was already built in with that parental guidance thing. And when the game shifted on me and I retired, I retired. You know what I'm saying? And the game that's mothered me out of make me quit. You know, and as y'all can see, I still get it. You feel me? But I retired because, to me, it was a young man's game.

And my grandmama prayers, Vernon Nelson, Preston Pete. man, she prayed over a brother, real tough to where when I got to that certain part after coming up out of prison, I knew. Like, you know what I'm talking, mom. Most of y'all, I can hear y'all spirit woman and man speak to you, and it was like, it's over. I want you to do this.

I was traumatized, right? Really? Yeah, man, I didn't know nothing else. And you know, my ex-bottom girl, rest in peace, Donna Bates. she was warning me and letting me know bank the game to change it's it's not like what it used to be and you know y'all don't know if y'all remember pimping pierre crooked mouth pimper pier out open you know he come visit me and whatnot uh and at the time hammer was tanning up stuff and i'm down

there in Vegas in prison in Vegas man and it was just so much that was coming in and out of my my psyche so by the time i got home and then i ended up with what kids Like, that shit just like, wow, this is real. Like walking to the store with my daughter that I didn't know. And she heard so much. So, and I'm walking, walking, everybody pulling up on foothill, honking, or whatnot. Bang you out, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, she's scared.

I'm like, damn, this is what this look like? My daughter's scared of me. She's scared to be with me because of all she didn't heard about me. She don't know. So when I took her back home, you know what I'm saying? I couldn't even see her for a couple of weeks because then you got the religious part of life. And they're, oh, well, we don't want you to be out with your dad no more and all that. So it was traumatizing, bro.

You know, just to know that you got a loved one, you can't be with because of choices that was put upon you. Because when I walked outside my door, I didn't see doctors and lawyers. I've seen pimps, hoes, dope dealers, gangsters, you feel me? So I became a part of my environment. And I took it on wholeheartedly, because in Oakland, you can't play. If you're going to be about it, you've got to be about it, bro. Or you're going to be another one in an obituary. So I really pressed in at a young age, and you asked about how did I end up nine deep.

I had the five that just wouldn't go nowhere. That was just like my family. created a family at a young age, shot you out to David, Bishop David Hartfield. He said one time he had seen me at, because like, in the daytime, I was a kid. And at nighttime, you feel me? They say freaks come out at night.

I'm at work. But in the daytime, I'm at the carnivals. I'm at movies. You feel me? I'm doing kids shit. You know what I'm talking about? But at night, we had to go get it. And I was the type that I would name all my ladies.

I would change their name and give them my name, and then I tattooed bank, you know, put the bank on the end. And that was to create a family because I was broken. I didn't know I was broken. I didn't know I was suffering from lack of direction in the household. So I knew I wanted to create something that was mine and something that was whole. So that's where that anger came out. Like, if you mess with one of mine, I'm going to make you touch it. everything that's, you know, like Pock said, I'm going to make you reach. That was my mentality,

so I passed it on to my women. So in Oakland, the street Brockhurst, because it started with it be, could nobody work on there. But my people, and if you try to, you're going to give, you know what I mean, I had to make an example out of you. That's the mentality. That's why I say, I didn't know I was broken. I didn't know I was hurt. The anger came out in the game. You feel me? But it's also my protection. That's how I was able to move and grew. That's how I was able to send two over here, send two over there. And one thing about being deep, like a lot of people think that, you know, you got to pay or you got, nah, you know, all that, what I want to say, compromising and let's make a deal. No, you just got to keep it real. Whatever you're doing,

Just like I say about the producer, he kept it real. He told me what it was, that's what it was. And that's what it is. You feel all you go. Right, right, right, straight up. And that's what it is. And that's what I live by, even today. That's what I stand for.

That's what I live by. And I wasn't a guerrilla pimp. I was never, let me clarify this. I was never in the game because I didn't like women. My mama did something to me wrong. All that. Now, I liked it money. I liked it women.

I liked it dressing, and I liked it to be able to travel. Right. That gave me the opportunity to do all that. And I love game. You know, I love game. Whether it be basketball, baseball, volleyball, whatever. But you know what I'm saying? Just the art of the mind, that was a turn-on for me.

O.G. Let me ask you this. Yes, sir. You O.G. Frank DeV. Yes, sir. Who your O.G. from the town. Oh, man. Shot y'all against the brown. You feel me? And I, uh, Buddy Bazir, I was always the one, I was a baby, but I was always with the older peas, like Kenny Winston, like y'all might not even know some of these names. That's why we want to hear him for you. Yeah, you know what I'm

saying? Kenny Winston, you know what I'm saying? He was a straight pea. And when I say straight peas, these brothers, that's all they did was eat sleeping drinks, you know what I mean? And like, always had something to tell you, you know, about the game. and about life. You know, I would see them reading books. You know, they was, you know, nails was done. And, you know what I'm talking about? Take care of their cells, but they also took care of their game.

Right. You know what I mean? Gangster Brown, you know, that was one of the short said. That was his hero. Gangster Brown is just a businessman. You feel me? And then he is his name, Gangster Brown. What's up, gee?

Hey, he a fool. Straight up. Gangster Brown story. We got a couple of them, but the word was over a female fantastic. And we both, like we had been hanging out. And Gayson, you know, Gaines, I'm putting to tell on you a little, just a little bit, all right? Gaines is a type, everybody going to like him. He just got that kind of personality.

You're going to like him. And he knows how to make you like him if he wants something from you. I said it. If he wants something from you, he's going to zero in on you. And he's going to give you some game, but he's gaming on you. And I knew it. You know, game recognized game, you feel me? But I liked him, but he liked me too.

You feel me? So we would vibrate, but I wouldn't keep my eyes. I wouldn't close my eyes on that niggero. You know what I'm talking about? So it was one of the times over there in San Francisco, and my buddy, Bobby Scarborough, shots out to him, rest in peace. he got took out, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, we're about 50-50 up in here

because that's how y'allelot brothers, we get it bad. I heard a brother preach and talking about dark skin what they go through and whatever. I was like, let me let him know about us, us karma. We go through a lot, right? They killed my brother because he was light-skinned and had a bunch of hookers, man. You know, didn't like him, call him a pretty boy

and all this old stuff. And Bobby was a good brother. He sang and whatnot. Me and G.B. Gangster Brown, we really loved that brother. And he had about five girls when he left. And Bobby didn't have no, you know, he had top-notches. So it was a couple of them that I, you know, I got the money after he checked out. And then it was fantastic.

And Gangster Brown had already been at her. You know, and he had been doing what he had been doing. So I eased over there. And, you know, I got mine. But gangster already had me whooped. You know, I sent her, but he ended up intercepting and everything. You know what I'm saying? He'd come up and, you know, and then he locked the dough down where I couldn't even get in.

I couldn't make a phone call to her. Shut me down. You know what I'm talking about? Yeah, man, you know, and it was another incident over there in San Francisco where I come up with a white girl. You know what I'm saying? But at the time, I'm leaking, you know what I'm saying? I'm messing with that dope now. But I still had the, every time I put the pipe down,

I'm a bad mother when I come up for recovery. You know what I'm talking about? I put that thing down and stop tripping. I'm back out on it. Hey, I'm not lying to you. I'm saying it on nationwide TV. Look here, man. I messed around there in the game and was towed up from the floor.

If I had a hand grenade, I'd have blow it up. You feel me? But I was pento pimping, man, with seven deep, man. And a green pento. Then I had a red penton on. And I put a bumper sticker on the back. Don't laugh. Your daughter may be in here.

Hello. I'm just telling you about the craziness that I've been through, right? Don't laugh. So, gangsters say, man, say, man, when you're going to peop about that pento, man? When you're going to peop up about that pento? I said, man, shoot, this is working for me, baby. I ain't got to pay no card knowing I'm 70. What?

Little did I know he had the white girl I had just come up within the back of the limo. So he rolled down the window. He said, well, you ain't going to need this one is you. So, you know, but me and gangster, we never fuck. We never, like, went after each other like they do these days. They want to kill you over. You know what I'm saying? It's all about the dollar bill. And the wisdom of the game is not game no more. And the one part that I do have to say consciously now is I hated how For me, when I came into it, it was gang, and I told y'all why. Because I loved women.

I couldn't just be with one because they get on my nerves. For real, you know what I'm saying? I get on my nerves, bro. I'm going to ask you, how did you deal with the multiple? I'm better with numbers. Hey, look here, I'm a multitask king, you feel me? I'm better with numbers. You know, that's how even when I ended up as a same thing.

your dad. I had three of them. I'm like, damn, the game changed on me. You feel me? I took you all three. My children I took them with me. You feel me? So, yeah, I'm just better with numbers, man, how to multitask with them and be totally, totally honest with you. When you got more, they do more. Because they know you know what I'm saying. If I don't take care of the business, she might, you feel me? And the Queens that's in here, y'all know you're all

competitive. You know, you could be out with your girl, man, and walk by, your girl know your flavor and if you walk by another female that look like something that she might think you like oh when you get to the car she's going to tell you yeah you see her red toenails you see that thing on her

I'm like how you see all that so they're very competitive you feel me so I zeroed in off that you know what I mean and I always listen to them I was a therapist even as a child I listened to what you have to to say it's very important to listen to people because they don't tell you you feel me and that's

why i have to say it now that it's a difference because the game is being played on us now they call it trafficking they call it trafficking and when i was coming up i was like well it ain't nothing so what if i go to jail 10-minute-panner ain't but nothing but a misdemeanor i'm gonna get some probation That's how my mindset was as a kid. You feel me? And that's what it was. But these folks been doing this before our time. And the senators, the presidents, and all them golf course men,

they're going to still have their entertainment. But the coldest part about it now where I'm convicted, like I said, I got a son that's in the game. I can walk on any walks of life because I don't judge folks. Because I don't know your story. I don't know what you've been through to get to. You feel? me, but what I have to do is speak on it consciously that in Oakland, 400, 400, y'all, black men and boys are missing.

Missing. Five hundred and fifty-eight or something like that, females, my culture. So we be a rape, rob, stole, and so. So today, as I sit on this couch, doing my best not to get emotional about my folks. He said, my people perish from the lack of knowledge. So I can't just sit on this couch and pop it and don't tell y'all 40 to 50% of the trafficking, human trafficking, is our culture. We don't want to still being enslaved. And now that I wear this crown, when I see my sisters, y'all hear the tremble in my voice, right?

I'm getting there. Now when I see my sisters and whatnot, I see Queens. You know what I'm saying? I don't see a dollar bill. I don't see somebody I'm going after. I see my mother, my auntie, my grandmama, but I had to get here. But a lot of my young geez, they ain't there and ain't thinking about it like that, and they're up in it, and they get more money than we used to get. But the time they want to give them 20 and 30 years, and they don't even know the game. You feel me? And then my sisters, It's more kidnapping going on than what it used to be, right? You know, and they kidnapping them, taking them and selling them off. You know, you look up, they, you don't see them no more. Like, damn, what you mean? She's gone. I didn't have been a part of walking the streets now, you know, advocating against sex trafficking.

You know, I'm an ambassador against sex trafficking now. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. I went through all the class. and whatnot, you know, ironically, in San Rafael, a shot out to my kings in San Rafael. I'm a part of a King movement in Marin City, a millionaire Dr. Germain Rennels.

He told me to give him a shout out tonight. There it is. But my granddaddy, you know, that was, San Rafael was one of the first places that I heard. My granddaddy, you know, he was tricking over there. He worked over there, but he'd get him a little... My grandmama busted all these, you know what I'm saying? He got him a little dooby-doo over there, right?

So I look up. up and I'm asked to come and speak over in San Rafael, DA, police, everybody, you know what I mean? I walk up in there, my army fatigue and I got choked up, man. I'm like, damn, this legacy. I made it to be a part of something good. You know what I mean? I don't never criticize nobody or judge nobody or say nothing about the start off, but I looked up where I was at and I was in a room full of, I call it them, so I'm going to call it them again. Them, you know, the DAs, judges, and the sheriffs and all that, they, you know, they had the front row.

They're looking at me like, I wonder what he's for the same. What does he have to say? And I didn't let them intimidate me because I had a message. But how many y'all know that I was embarrassed? because when I come up it was game now I'm going out speaking and teaching and it ain't game it's insanity and it's slavery

but how do you tell youngsters that's getting 20 and 30 racks a month that this is going to lead you to somewhere you ain't going to be able to enjoy that money and also it's a booby trap it's called game for a reason and we're the ones getting played. You know, we're the most consumers.

We buy the most. We spend the most money, but we don't own shit, man. We had Fubu for a minute. You feel me? So I'm hoping, you know, the South, 85 South, I'm seeing the gear and whatnot. It's going a long ways, right? But I'm going to get back to that in San Rafael,

where I got a chance to speak. I was embarrassed because I'm standing there and they're waiting for me to, you know, I felt like the energy in the room was like, what does he have to say? You know, what is this? And I have to keep that energy down that it's because of y'all aspirins that I'm here. Y'all keep raising these little Tommy's just going to the school, shooting up everything and whatnot because y'all want to give them all the privacy. But then y'all want to tell us how to raise our children. So I had to, you know, keep the balance and bring the message.

And by the time I got done, man, it was, you know, grateful that I came through. But the embarrassing part to it was the numbers, how many men and women are enslaved and just taken right from up underneath the families. And it's people that look like us all day, every day. And they get away. You know, they do some stuff. What was that boy name? I know we ain't supposed to say names on the show and whatnot, but Charlie, two dads or whatever.

Man, he didn't touch them and everything and did everything on the set and still got paid. Matter of fact, what's a goofy name right now? Little Chucky, what y'all call him? President. They still call that nigger old president. Trump!

Salute to Trump. I got to get Trump as props. He trump every day. He's straight Trump every day. He'll tell you. Look at him, though, don't he look like little Chuck, you know what I'm saying? Hey, hey, look here. Y'all mess with Trump.

He's going to tell you. They're telling y'all fake news anyway. Trump going to keep it real when y'all busts on him. He's going to tell on everybody, right? He's going to tell on everything, you know what I'm saying? But being honest, man, you know what I mean? It's set up for us to fail. You know, so that was the other reason that I say, well, shoot, I'm spoiled.

But I ain't pimping no more. They asked me to come. I gotta be grateful somebody who wants to hear my mouth. You feel me? Somebody that's coming up and doing stuff and got atmosphere and an audience to people that's listening. See, I ain't crazy. You know what I mean?

And this money, I don't spend money. I exchange it. So I didn't go in, just so y'all know, I didn't go in the roller decks and pull up one of my ex-women to get the money to get here. Come on, y'all. I got here out of my pocket and I'm blessed to be here, you feel me?

So I said that to say, man, to the youngsters that's out there, man, I'm a financial educator now. I'm helping people know how to spend their money and put their money in the right places because there's a lot of stuff we do not know because we don't read. Let me speak for me first.

I wasn't reading the fine print. I'm buying cars and all this stuff and not looking at, you know, the percentage rate and this, that and other. It's a lot of stuff that we don't look at because we just want what we want. Am I the only one guilty of that? No, a lot of us do that.

Man, a lot of us. A lot of us. And the thing when you asked me about the parents, do you know I ended up driving Uber? Yeah, man, when you become a real parent, and I was a single dad. I'm so gang goofy about, mine, when I left the woman, the kids had to come with me.

Can't a woman just raise my kids? I'm crazy, so you know, with my kids. And I wouldn't even put that kind of pressure on them, but so I asked. You got five stars, too, do you? Huh? You got five stars in the drive a movie. You better get you there, man. You're going to get you.

Look here, look here, man. You're going to get to get you, ma'am. Oh, man. I'm telling you, man. You know what I'm talking about, man. You know all the streets. You're a nigga, all the gang. Hey, man, don't be out here after two, niggins.

Oh, man, man. But I tell you, this, the conversations are different. When you pick them up, because I was working in San Francisco, right? When you pick them up in their other culture, our European family, I call them the vanilla beans. Their conversation is totally different. from ours. They're taught at the breakfast table

to expect to get that million dollar deal. They're taught at the table, well, Jeffrey, Joey's dad is working down there and he's going to set you up. We don't know nothing about the business, but he's going to be set up. You feel me?

That's the business. Come on. And that's what I'm hoping tonight that somebody catch out of my vocabulary. When Short talked about us protecting the bag, we the bag, man.

We're the bag. We always been the bag. We just didn't know it. And then instead of being scared of somebody going to take something from you, give it. Give it. And watch how it come back.

Well, you ain't even expecting it. And that's the other thing that we don't really recognize the power and giving. You can get more back by giving. Like I told my brother when we first rolled up, I said, man, I don't even get traumatized by road rage and nothing. He asked me, how was Atlanta treating me? I said, shit, I'm treating Atlanta.

You see, you know what I'm talking about? Wherever I go, man, I got to keep a smile on my face. I got to keep my energy up. You know what I mean? Because I'm grateful to be here. Because I did tell y'all, 13 different prisons. nine different county jails, four attempts on my life, 16 years in and out of crack.

Insane in the membrane. Damn. Yeah, man, come on now. I'm talking about, I didn't smoke with, you know, some of the, you know what I'm talking about? Up in that Hollywood. Mayor, can I tell on me, look here. This is the crazy part about them drugs, man.

How are you going to hop a bob wire fits to get some dope? a bob-wire fence with some gator boots on I got a tailor-made leather and mink suit with the mink on and I hopped a bob-wire fence to get some dope

I can laugh about it now you know what I'm talking about but y'all know when I was in my regular mind how much I spent just on that gear right and how I felt encouraging you know I'm a bitch when I put this on.

But then I took a hit of that bullshit that brought out to us. And it did something to my mind. It was trying to take me up out of here. Why I'm hopping a bob watch this, man. To go get some drugs. Matter of fact, I know ain't none of y'all

did it before, but I'm talking about back in the day, it was like you had to call the cab. You know, because I didn't want to drive and be tweaking. You know what I'm saying? It's like every car is the police. they're going to come get me. I'm just telling on me. You know what I'm saying?

Two short says it's freaky tales, okay? So I'm going to tell on me. I'm talking about, man, calling the number, calling somebody to pick, man, take my money. Like, do you tell me, man, I'm on, I'm on freeze right now. I got to, man, go and pull something out of her. I don't care what you get it from, just get it. That's a cold place to be, my brother. And right now, I'm telling you the most high so cool with me,

It didn't shift it around. I work for backs, Bay Area Community Services. I'm out in the trenches. I work in the streets are open. I'm out there feeding the homeless. I ain't scared of them. I don't worry about the smells. I'm a part of three generations.

My age, nowadays kids, and their kids, kids. And God didn't put me in a position where I'm giving housing to them of somebody else's money I'm still getting that you feel me I'm using the grants whatever I can use

to take mine up off the street but then I go a step further with them because it's one thing to come up off the street being homeless but now you've got to learn some education you got to know you can't be bringing Jimmy in all time because

it's your spot Jimmy ain't going to treat your spot the way he would treat his because he ain't got one yet. So it's a lot of stuff that we have to teach them how to just live normal life again. Right. And unfortunately, I see a lot of that goes through the cracks. But I'll be down, ten toes down, man, to take care of the community,

not trying to put everything on my shoulders, but I know I'm here for a reason and a purpose. And it's more me and my people that I see that's out there. And I hate it when I see a grown man pushing a damn baby basket. What a hell, they start that. But they take all their belongings and whatnot. They put it in a basket and they're pushing it. So if I can go by it and sprinkle them and bring some old life back to them,

oh, gee, frank, my man, I remember. And sometimes they come back. And if I can just give me a spark, then I've got something to work with. Because I'm really about this there. You feel you? I'm really about this. here, man. I'm really about lacing my brother's boots so they can catch up. There's this game that's being played on us. And that's why I'm here tonight. I really came that strength of

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Get your tickets today, AXS.com. That's exactly what I wanted you to come through here, man. Yeah, man. It was just hearing about who you are and knowing your story, man. It's just amazing. And to see where it took you, man. You know that journey. Yeah, man.

And where you're going to? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. It's beyond here. Yeah, man. So we want to bring you on the platform and give your flowers, man, and let you know. There's love and respect. And just hearing the things that you've done in your life is just amazing, man. It's just dope to be able to sit here and hear it straight from you. And do you know, they talk about us like with dead beat dads and whatnot. You know, when I go to the laundry, man, I see more men than women in there, especially our culture.

But most of my brothers in here, y'all didn't been there. We took care of your little cousin, your little nephew, a little niece, or whatever, walked them to the store. I feel the flavor that's in the building. We don't get credit for that, so we got to give it to ourselves. Yeah. And then we got to bless these babies. You know what I'm saying? I don't get credit for what you're supposed to do.

Nope. They say black fathers spend more time with their kids than any other race, but they don't never talk about it. They're not supposed to. Yeah. They're not supposed to Why would I tell you Are y'all doing good When I'm already intimidated by you

Right You feel me? Right, exactly So that's why I'm saying We gotta stop looking at the race card The race card is real But let's win the race We gotta start looking at the face card Come on man

Come on man Come on face the face card is you You gotta face you Like I told y'all and laugh With you about the demons I had to face within me You think the streets gave you PTSD Hell no

That's too many damn alphabets. What that mean? Post-traumatic stress. He heard that CD, it was like, the priest ain't gave me shit. I didn't get shit from the street. I didn't get shit from the street. I wasn't out here like that.

I did a little job, lady. I know what I'm saying? It was lame, baby. Get a little drugs and they ain't never getting nothing, though. Nah, I can't even sell out like that. I remember being at school and hearing the teachers talk about somebody else and they would call their parents

and talking about a regular, riddler or something to make them calm down. Oh, some reddler. Yeah, talking about he, too active or whatever. I was like, no, don't call Sharon Smith because she's going to, and she won't. My mom won't play that. Talking about, oh, he too hyper, he too this.

Oh, okay, just leave his little ass right there in that office. I'll be there. You know what I'm saying? I go back while. They used to whoop you, you feel me? And I had to even bring that into

a thing, shots out the Village Connect. We were sitting at the Village one time, chopping it up, men on Fridays, and we was laughing about how the Mamas used to tell us to go out, go get the Switch. Y'all remember that?

Yeah, yeah. Because I couldn't understand why my mama had to whoop me with an extension cord. My mama whipped my nation on my leg one day. How the hell you do that? I had an F-L that's on my leg, right? And my mama Sharon Smith,

rest of the piece, I love you, girl. Hey, um, if you mess around and block that bill, try to block it, you know what I'm talking about? And you hit her hand? Oh, man, Sherry's going to put them things up. You're trying to hit me? You want to, oh, woman, I just want you off me.

You're right? Sheriff put some things up, right? Tell everybody in the family. Yeah, the little motherfucker trying to fight me. too. You know what I'm saying? I was trying to keep him getting hit in the goddamn face, right? And then that it hurts me. So you're trying to fight your mom

put your hands there? You ain't even got your fistball to put your hands there. No, no, no, no, no, I got one better for you. Hush up. Hush up. I'm crying. This thing hurt. They tell you, shut up, before I give you something to cry for. Y'all remember that one? I ain't you all want to go back that far, right?

Right. So I remember sitting at the table and we chopping it up about that. And I'm like, man, It's saying funny. Because they did what they were taught. Massa told them to go get the switch and whatnot. Y'all remember the movie they didn't want it to come out to him or birth of a nation? Anybody remember that one? Yeah.

They had so much knowledge up in there that to see. Mad Turtles. Some of y'all are going to get mad at me, but y'all watching the show, so leave me alone. The Christians was taught. what to preach and they did that because they wanted to keep them in slavery and at a time in the union I guess they started acting out or filling some type of way they didn't want to whatever so them Gilmose got in and said yeah I know your boy know how to read now remember they used to hang us cut us whatever for reading right but they would pick certain ones and

they pick the scriptures that you read only you bet not read nothing else and the boy in that turning, he was like, enough is enough. And he started reading the other part of the scriptures. And then he was like, we ain't doing, we ain't taking us no more. And they stood up. So when we're sitting there at the table, we're chopping it up about how our mamas

used to whip us and whatnot. Just my spirit, man, came alive. He was like, this ain't funny. Your parents did what they were taught. Because if y'all watched the movie, when the woman told, the lady, she said, I hear your son is really a good reason.

She said, oh, I'll take a switch to him. I'll beat him. She's like, oh, no, you ain't got to do nothing. We're going to take him from you. We're going to put him in the house now so he can learn to read more because we're going to teach him. They just took her child.

And back then, that's the way it was, that we would easily be taken from our own. So right now, in this day and time of 2003, if you don't stand for something, you're going to fall for anything. And if you don't know your history, you don't know where you come from,

then how's somebody going to tell you what to do? Because you ain't hearing. So we, as a culture, we got to go in and do a little research, like you said. You had to search me out. You had to put your buddy Bazir glasses on and make you do what it do. Free.

because I wasn't out there that rectible no more. I stopped going to the players' balls and all that. They would call me, you know what I'm saying? Man, move, because I'm a competitor. So ain't no sense of me going, and I got a slick mouth. I'm watching move him, Kevin. All those got cell phones, and I'm wondering. You know, I got issues.

So, you know, I stopped doing all that. I retired in 1990. You know what I mean? You know, I'm like, I'm done. That's good. I was in Green Bay, Wisconsin, 14 deep, baby. You know what I'm saying? And then, man, I just, my spirit, man, was like,

it's time to grow up. But, you know, now it's, man, they was all asking, what you're going to do? How are you just going to leave all this? At the time, I had, like, four-fire cars. And I didn't know, but it was my faith. you know, that little boy in me that I'm working with now

because I'm going to flip y'all on something. You know, I go through trimasters. If you don't get in contact with the little boy and you, I'm speaking to the Kings, then how are you going to deal with the man? Y'all ever pouted in your relationship? Don't say nothing, just look at me like I'm crazy. You know what I'm saying?

You and your woman and got into it. You're playing mad. You're going through it, whatever, whatever. You know, I'm an actor, too, you know what I'm saying? I didn't ran out the house, got in the car and all that, dried down the street, hoping she texted me, whatever. I ain't going to answer it, but I just want to see it. You know what I'm talking about?

I'm just talking about me, you know what I'm talking about? I'm sitting at a green light that's saying, go, Frank. And I'm sitting here tripping off of the little boy stuff that I didn't went through with Mama back at the house, you know? So I'm just like, man, okay, so I, this thing is really. It's trimesters in life, especially for us males. You know what I mean? Like we have to educate ourselves about who we are and our triggers. You know, because we all got triggers.

Like I used to really, like, I used to really have issues with people telling me what to do in public. You didn't know me, don't tell me what to do. Then I had to look up and witness it on my children. My children was like that, bro. You feel me? I see them. I'm acting out like, mm, you can't tell them nothing. I'm like, dang, they got that for me.

That's me. And I had to witness it at the airport last year. The man was just doing his job. And he's strolling by with the garbage can and woo-wooop, and then he's going to ask me to move. I'm like, what you mean, move? All that room over there, you move. He had work.

I'm in there, you know, with my kids, crown. I got a crown on them too, you know what I'm talking about? I'm like, Frank, you got issues still. So that's when I start doing the detoxing on me, you know, and understanding me more about my personality. Right. You feel me? About the stuff I go through, and then if I'm going through it,

who else I'm taking with me? And my wife, shots out to my queen. Boy, she didn't really push the king and me up. As the old folks would say, I got a gooder. Okay, I got, I didn't even know they still made them like this word. Woo, sexy and talented and a beast. Got my back on every level and continues every day to push the king and me to rise up higher.

You know, now with all that, you know, y'all know what I'm talking about. I don't go through that. I got it peaceful. When now and then, I might have to, hey, mama, I am the elder. I'm older than you. You know what I mean? But other than that, man, a blessed woman, man, and I'm grateful for it. And that just, it helps to be able to see yourself.

You know what I'm talking. Y'all know, y'all know this one is special, right? Not special ed, neither, you know what I mean? Like, this one here is really special. I love everybody that's in the room, but it's funny that you, it's funny that you, looked for me because when I first seen the show your energy we connected

I'm like that brother different or you feel me that brother different man so the producer looked like my nephew you know when I when I seen my nephew my nephew in Minnesota you feel me he ain't got no

I don't know if they cloned or what but you know what I'm saying you know he just greeted me when he greeted me. It was so much love that was there, you know, from the first time, you know, after we got off the phone and seen each other face to face, you know. It's just love. And we need more of that. What y'all doing, man, it's powerful, man. And I told you I was going to speak on it. Let me get this list out for it. I forget everybody. Y'all please in Oakland, MacArthur, y'all go up to 2020 MacArthur Boulevard. Y'all get some of that

Kimmy Fresh Food, okay? I had to get that shot in there, all right? I had to get that plug in there, you know what I'm saying? And y'all know we're doing game, recognized game, shots out the Papps, shots out the picks, y'all going to give us the money to go out and bless these union, these kids, we're going to go around. Me and Paps, he used to be MC Hammers or Cargopher. I don't know how he taught Hammer the moves, but he used to teach Hammer how to dance

and manage with Hammer. Me and him hooking up, you know what I mean? We're doing the game, recognized game. You know what I'm saying? So we're going to take the game and sprinkle the youth, you know, because a lot of the young children. Mr. Fab doing that. Mr. Fab, shots out the Fab.

He's doing thug therapy. Next October the 4th, we're going to be in the ballroom. And somebody was like, well, man, you know, Mr. Fab, he got a bunch of people and a bunch of men there, but they ain't got no direction. Let me say something to that. anytime you can get a hundred men together and there's no fighting there's direction a hundred men now the last time we had 150 i haven't been there yet but last time it was 150 men that look like me

and what mr fab is doing is allowing us to have a space to come together with our wounds y'all know how it is you know what I'm saying I think we're the only culture that really do this sometimes you know people another man look at you and look at you in the face first thing you're looking at we've been traumatized you know what I'm saying

that don't nobody really want to talk about truth because we're too busy being cool but back in the day you was not allowed to look another man in the face they beat us down or whatever so a lot of our triggers come from somewhere, you feel me? Like I had to do my research

while I was scared of height. Well, I found out they used to take us up on after they called it but-buck-ething they take us from our family and screw us in front of our family and they throw us off the cliffs.

Now this is real. This is stuff that happened and we become so normalized and normal to our, oh gee, I just got to get mine. We don't want to hear the history because the history hurts, and it sounds some type of way, and we don't want to identify with that. And the first name, a lot of times, people say, well, you're using that N-word. No, it's not an N-word.

It's called a nigga. And we didn't took it in a sprinkle with that bad boy and changed it up. It ain't what it used to be. Well, our ancestors died over that. Nah, our ancestors died over a lot of stuff that didn't know. Some of the moves they made was not cool. like when we had a black community they still want to ride the bus

with massive kids and whatnot come on it so so it gets deep it gets deep and there's a lot of stuff that until we sit at the table like what mr. fab is doing until we sit down and really talk about it and go around and around and it hurt and then we vomit up some of that pain you're gonna keep spinning around man

so I really salute what Mr. Fabb is doing The next one he's doing is October the 4th. I think it's from six to nine. Yeah, the California room. You know, Oakland's standing up. You know, we're rebuilding. Unfortunately, it's a lot of crime, like I told you. We didn't mess around and let it get away from us.

Now the Asians or whatever was running it, but they run in taking care of theirs. It's a reason why there's been so many different police sheets and whatnot. lease cheats and whatnot. So again, this is that part of me that, you know, I can't come on the show and sit here and don't. You feel me?

I got to be honest and, you know, be real with what I see every day. But I know just by being in this room, when he took me over there, he showed me that other part, I seen the creativity, I seen the far away. I'm like, man, they own it. They own it. Literally. Man, come on. brilliance

brilliance and just think of just keep going different cities different whatever and it ain't like if somebody else start wanting y'all gonna lose nothing and that's the mentality that we have to understand we move up what was the warriors

say we're stronger together stronger with numbers Strengthen numbers Strengthen numbers Strength and numbers Strength and numbers Most different You know

Oh gee Uncle Frank the team This Frank the bang, baby You don't play with my name Hey Hey Fucking with your Jeep

Hey Hey check this out He ain't put it on the wrong No he ain't getting nothing wrong No he didn't get nothing wrong And you know You know It wouldn't be right

If I didn't You know Just say that In parenting Straight up in parenting It's gonna pull everything You got out of you Especially you over 40

because all that stuff they're doing now and telling the kids they can go get their sex change without talking to us. I'm mentoring out of school and they tell me this person is a furry. A who? A furry. Yeah, that's that California shit.

No, no, no. Hey, they're doing it more than California. They got it in the Wisconsin. What I'm saying? In the South, you don't really meet a whole lot of furries. What y'all got, the emo's? And the furries, that's the ones that like to put on the suit, the animal. They want to be an animal.

Yeah, brigh. They had a suit on at the school. Like the furrow. And then the morning got the little hair and the whiskers or whatnot, the cats, and they don't use the bathroom. They use a little by and stop it. Come on, man. And this is the, and this is the, you know, a lot of them. And this is becoming the, come on.

That's good though. You got to be educated. I was on the road, comedy show, the hotel, a bunch of motherfuckers head. their little outfit with their heads off, found out it was a furry convention at the hotel, I'm staying there. And you see how that affects us? Like, we look at that, like, wait, what happened?

What happened? Well, it started when they started taking, when they took prayer out of school. And when they started saying that we couldn't discipline our children, it was all game. If we go all the way back to, y'all remember the movie, Clotene?

Anybody remember Clotene? No, it's crazy. What was his name? James Zero Jones was the garbage man. Joe, ain't your mom in that movie? What movie she was in? Oh. That just made me sound like an asshole.

She was in a stage play or something, wasn't it? See, she was on TV. And in the movie... His mom was Loaded from Good Time. In the movie... I'm good time. I had a crush on Home Girl. What was her name?

I'm just bullshit. Man, man. Man. But in the movie, Claudine, James Earl Jones played the Garbage Man, and Carol, I forget her name, Carol. Diane Carroll, he was dating her. She was a single mom, but that was when they introduced us to what we thought we had came up, was welfare. And we really bought that, that boy was the white dude, but a black president.

Damn, that's what Claudine's about. She leave James Earl Jones because she'd get on welfare. I don't need you, garbage man. Claudine, wait. But that's what it caused the separation. When welfare came out, then the women felt like,

I got to hide you. I can't have you here while the worker coming. Now, James Earl Jones was a garbage man. That's when we all became sad, niggas, right there. No, that's what Papa wasn't rolling stone. That's what that came up. Because Papa had to keep it moving.

Come on, man. Because he couldn't be over there because he's going to fuck the wheel for me. But you got home, girl. You got a long girl down the street. I've been looking at you, big boy. You feel me? You feel me?

It's simple stuff like that. I got a family, but I can't stay there. What did that mean? Well, it's... My baby mama's on the well, man. See, everybody thinks Pop Pop was tripping because he had that family across town. Shit, he couldn't be over there like that.

He couldn't be in the city limits. And we created more life. Damn. On the move. So now you didn't start a whole other life on the move. And then you know our jobs take us where, you know, back then. And in the beginning, they wasn't tripping on us paying back child support. When the women was getting all them checks.

Right. Twice a month. And then they was frying them big poke chop sandwiches and shit. How are you going to know? Not falling in love with these big, thick-ass women from Georgia. They make pork chops, freeze cobblers and shit and all times of the gams. All times a night.

They're just big-hand plate full of spaghetti and shit. Of course, you're about you're full. You're going to fuck spending night. Have a big-ass baby. But you're still going to Alabama to work on that railroad because your uncle got you that job. Well, you got to fuck after eating all that food. After eating all that food, you got that.

I owe you. I owe you. I owe you. But it was all part of the setup. It was all part of setup. Most definitely. Now, you know what I'm saying? You're on pay, you know, your driver's license, you know, so on and so forth.

So it was all the part of their plan. Right. So we got to keep planning to do different like what you're all doing, man. Keep a sip eating what you do. Hell yeah. You know, straight up. We own it. I see it.

We own it. I see it. We appreciate you stopping through it. First time, don't let it be the last. To God be the glory. Yeah, man. And if I missed anybody getting y'all shots out, y'all know who my tribe is. You know who you are.

What's your social media so they can hit you in? What am I on? O.G. Frank DeBate, lower case, O.G. Frank DeBank on Instagram. I'm on street rep on Facebook. When they let me in, they shut me down twice. Uh-oh. You must be on there talking this shit. Well, in the place.

Now listen to here, fucking bitch. Don't be in my comment. I wasn't even doing that. It happened in the planetemic. He wasn't to do. It happened in the planetemic. Y'all heard me. I see it planning.

He was on there going live. Don't put that shit on your arm. I still was out feeding because when COVID-19 came out and they told everybody stay in the house, I didn't get that message. You was outside? I stayed outside, man. You know, and you was on Facebook going live. Yeah, y'all let the house.

I'll stay, me and my family, we stayed in the trenches. We stayed feeding folks and whatnot. I got all kind of hate me. What kind of dad are you? I got your children out there. I ain't scared of death. And God didn't tell me to stay in the house? Man did.

It's a planetemic. Y'all, you've been in science class. What they tell you to do with your project? You didn't go to school. They told you to label it. They told you to put a name on it. put it up. You remember now? No, most definitely.

So, when you hear about these hurricanes and whatnot, you don't think it's planned? I ain't got a name to it, family. I just wanted to drop that one on yet. So when they came out with COVID-19 and the people that write them checks told me, if I come to work, they're going to pay me an extra $1,000. And not only that, I went from driving an hour. were in five minutes to get in the work in 35, I said, keep them in the house.

I'm staying out here and play. I didn't catch COVID because I wasn't scared of COVID. That ain't why. Why I didn't catch it? Some people just can't get the shit. And if anything you think of and you fear, you're going to draw it to you, baby. Just like anything that you positively say,

I'm going to make happen. You found me because you're a positive mind. So I do believe we dream. all what we believe. He said as a man think it so surely be. The thoughts is a deep place. So I know I didn't catch COVID because I

didn't want it and I was being arrogant about it. I said I wish a COVID would. Oh shit. Don't think of it. That bitch spinning the blood right now. Hey, hey, that's, that was my mentality. You know what I'm saying? And that's why Facebook shut me down. I know you was on that talking good shit.

Hey, but I stayed out, hey, the people Oh, let me ask you a question. How come to homeless people Weren't scared of COVID? They got some shit worse than COVID. Or COVID, that's all That's all y'all got.

That's what I'm saying. You said it, you said it, you said it, yeah. You said it. Last week it was tubergy longer. Right, you said it. You said it. They are already up against everything so COVID didn't scare them.

They still had the little light. Man, I ain't shit in two weeks. You think I gave a fucking mouth of COVID? I wish I was. I could get it. And no disrespect to those ones that transition. Do it make you sleep because I'm tired, miss. I'm tired.

Yeah, no disrespect to those who have lost members through COVID. I didn't mean, no disrespect. You feel me? Yeah, I love some people to COVID. I did too. But it was planned, and it is planned. Can I say this in closing? Yeah.

How the hell they didn't burn Hawaii? Now, you y'all know they hit us in threes. they didn't burn Hawaii down they didn't put a flood over there and now they just did a hurricane see whenever they had a hurricane coming on the west coast and they don't even have hurricanes over there

I'm just trying to told you see y'all think that black people always got a conspiracy about the weather now you say this was the hottest summer they ever had well at the Super Bowl in New England and in Chicago and the Cowboys

it had never snowed in New England Then it's Snowden, Florida. I'm a true believer that they messing with it. No, but some of that stuff, it don't be adding up now. Oh, it's add up? It'd add up, but we're supposed to be normally crazy. We ain't supposed to say it. Fire supposed to burn up everything.

Everything, everything that burns supposed to burn, right? Tree's supposed to burn up. If the house burn up, the tree's supposed to burn up, baby. It's supposed to. It's cold peace That's cold peace Cold peace Like you said

They got it all Planned out No the trees was wet Don't start Dude this is a whole other hour We waited up the trees We didn't have time to wet your house The trees

Mooh this shit out of the way Hey hey hey Fuck off me OG Frank de Bank We appreciate you stopping through Yeah God be Much love and success

On your journey 85 South Show, Frank the Bank. Thank you. We out of here. Yeah, yeah. Oh, we got to give a little. Oh, I got you some. Okay.

I got you a gift bag, man. I got you a gift pack. Oh, man, that's what it is. 85 South Shore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look up, let's get a flick. Do what? Yeah.

And take a pick. Okay. Shoot. You want to stand up? Man, I ain't put a hat on it so long. I know I still squirking, y'all. You feel I mean? Yeah, yeah.

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