The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Freeway Rick Ross in the Trap!

Episode Date: November 4, 2022

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To hear this and more, listen to Good Mom's Bad Choices from Black Effect Podcast Network on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. I just want to take you to the beginning of the game. Oh, this was it. This was the beginning of the game. I'm your mother. I'm your daddy. I'm your mother. I'm your daddy. See, y'all be leaving this one out. They always leave this one out the conversation. I don't know why this.

Why they always leave this one out? Everybody will push a man. You got to have a station wagon. You got to have a man. You got you a station wagon? Huh? You got a station wagon? Not the war.

I only run the part right now. Word? No, I'm bumming. I'm humming. Fuck it's up. Don't put your son and son, too. Who can I just in my road? I'm gonna go though in about, about eight months.

I'm going to all the dealers and I'm gonna buy a car from everybody. Man, I want, you gotta have one wagon in this. You gotta have one wagon in the fleet. Uh. One way, put one wagon in this. flee. I'm going to have so many other things on you. And I ain't doing what I do to buy no cars.

Yeah. But they're going to make me spend the money somewhere. You got to spend it. You got to spend it. Jay Witt, it's time. Let me say. It's time to get back on Tash, man. We got the whole show to do.

Not only do we have a podcast to shoot, but I feel like it's going to be a black history lesson. Yes, sir. For everybody watching this show. You feel me? hear it we'd have heard bits and pieces but now it's official in the trap we have a black street icon with us today legend a legend he did it first bounce back beat the system came back now he flipping it all legit right books doing work in the community man expanding

into the marijuana industry done it all seen it all spend it all to None other than free weight, Rick Ross. Yeah! The OG! Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The OG! First of all, welcome, welcome to the show. Man, I've been trying to get here.

Before the pandemic started, man, I've been trying to get here, I've been trying to get here. You're a busy new. You're finally. We got you. We got you, yeah. Finally, you made it, man. man might not be no jeet I'm excited too man look how many people are sitting around the

room never had this many people everybody wanted to come see you the fact I appreciate I appreciate it but only because of y'all you all make them come see me shit we that's why we had to do it we put the call in you know I tell them all the time right when you was asked me at the beginning when we first sat down why why my movie ain't out right because the only reason you asked me that is because you already know my movie is gonna shake the whole country. You might have to do like three movies. You know what I'm saying?

I want to see it. You might have to be like, you might have to do like three of them. And I'm going to audition. I've been working on my shit. I'm trying to get, I'm trying to audition, man. At least let me, at least on the TV series.

He can play you? I don't know, he might make it. He might make it. Shit, come on, man. I want to audition. So you what you're saying? You said they're scared to take you, they're off in the right chick, man.

Yeah, they try to, we go to a meeting, right? Right. They offer the guy that's going to turn into a screenplay, because I already wrote my story. Right. You know, I wrote the story. Right. It's my story.

It's my story. Yeah, it's your story. So they offer him two and a half million, and they're going to give me $600,000. And they tell me, I got to walk away. So they're going to tell a lover. They want to write your story. And for me to walk away.

Fuck no. The three, the three of four big, four biggest guys in Hollywood took. All them told me that. It's like they all had got together and, in him. Why to walk away though? Why you can't, why they couldn't let you be a consultant? We got the article. You should have been.

That's a cold article there. That's a cold article there. Okay. Bring me the Sharper then. What do he say, what did he say on there? That's my bitch. He was writing my obituary. And the next page, you probably got to pull it to the next page.

But he was talking about he was writing my obituary. But anyway, a reporter from the LA magazine. Give me the back story on this article. Well, I was sitting... Pull it up, Rick Ross is dreaming. I was sitting in USP Lompoc, and this reporter came up to see me, right? Right. And I don't know, because, you know, I'm in jail and studying the law, you know, grinding them law books now.

I'm grinding law books like I used to grind that dope. Right? I'm grinding. Right. Like, hoar! Right. So they called me to the visiting room. They was like, Jesse Katz out there to see you.

I've been knowing Jesse a long time. He used to write for LA Metro when the cops was chasing me and everything. So, you know, they ain't got no case. They ain't gonna catch me. Right. You know, this I used to talk to him and, you know, okay, we're gonna see. So he come to see me this time. He got his tape recording his little pad and he was like,

yeah, man, I'm doing this article for LA magazine and you know they told me to come up here and see you right I don't know that they consider this is the last time they're ever write about me right basically what he was saying he said I'm writing his obituary so he said he's writing me off that I'm dying inside this penitentiary you never go out I'm never getting out but inside this article I'm telling him no no no no no no hold up it's another picture over here see I don't do a picture over here that y'all don't even see so I'm telling him about the box

the music business, books, movies, documentary. You know, my documentary already was number one on Netflix for a year and a half. All right, let's go to the beginning. How did it, how did we get hit? How did all of this start? I mean, just for this. Who was that we was just listening to?

The Sugar Hill game. Sugar, yeah. Tell us, tell us. After that. After that. Who does it do, Curtis Mayfield? Oh, Freddy's dead. Okay.

This is the shit I grew up on. Right. So one of my older cousins, he take me one day. I'm about 15. He takes me to the movie theater. Me and all my little cousins, all of us. He just piled us all in the car, so we go. And they turn the screen on and they're super fly.

And they're playing Curtis Mayfield and Freddy's dead. And then I see this brother, though, really like just did for me I see this brother stare down like 10 white cops yeah like fuck y'all cracker doing my dirty laundry ain't gonna say you I said a brother talking to white folks like because I'm from Texas where my uncle's and my mom them yes sir yes ma'am right to white people right and nothing better not happen to one gorgeous hair on my head you dig right is that what he told him yeah yeah and he said you think I got I got some of them brothers no I got white boys that's gonna get you

You forgot to mention one thing, them pretty white ones that worked for me too. He wasn't playing. So when I saw that movie, my whole life changed. I saw a dude that I wanted to be like. Right. You know what I'm saying?

I wanted to be like Arthur Ashe one time too. You know, that was like my guy before Superfly came along. I was on Ash real hard. I played tennis. I was still playing tennis. So that shit kind of coincided, right? if I like well kind of but not really you know basically what tennis did for me is tennis gave me a strategy okay you know and tennis is a lot of strategy and I didn't

know this but but I got two new babies that that I got playing tennis now but I still want to go to Wilmington and I ain't gave that dream right there you know I'm right there you know Venus and Serena used to practice with my older kids come on that's lit yeah so so I see them when they was little and my kids was right there with them You know, like, they would come to the park to practice with my group. You know, I had a whole little, like a little tennis kind of like 15 kids all together because, you know, I know how kids are, if they got a lot of kids with them, they'll do a little more than if you're just working them by themselves.

So Venus and Serena would come down to the park and play with the group because, you know, it wasn't nowhere else to go and get that kind of practice. And saying that, I saw them, you know, I saw the dream and I saw the dad the way he was working. And, and, because I was younger than their dad, you know, I was a little younger than him. But I was probably more experienced in tennis than he was. Right. But I still watched him, and I remember what he did, the steps that he took to get his kids to where they're at today. And I say, well, shit, all I do is follow his recipe.

I mean, he laid it out for you. Right, right. And that's what I'm doing right now with tennis. But I was playing tennis, and then my cousin took me to that, to that, to that theater. and I'm hearing this music for the first time and I'm seeing Superfly for the first time. And I'm like, shit, I ain't never seen no black man like that. Right. You know, I've seen them make us lay down on our stomachs and sit on the curve and you're just getting out of church with your suit on.

You sit on the curve, boy, don't say nothing. You know, I didn't see no left, but I ain't ever seen no black man. You know, just stand up to no 10 white cops and then, you know, make them back down. So, and I looked at it as if cocaine. looked at it as if cocaine gave him that power. That all of his power was coming from cocaine, so that's how the seed got planted. Because it all started from a thought first. You got to think about that shit before you can actually put it into motion.

So I thought about it first. Just like in that article, I thought about all the stuff I was going to be doing when I got home. See what he didn't know, and he told me when I got out of prison, when we was riding on the freeway, I was speaking at an AA meeting, and he came because he'd writing another story about me. They never published it, the one he was writing in yet. But we riding from the meeting, and I look over, and he was just, like, staring at me, like, really crazy, right? And I was like, damn, dude, what's wrong with you?

He's like, man, we're on the 110 freeway. I said, and? He said, man, did you know when I did that last article on you, 30 days later, you won your pill? I said I never paid attention to that I was just glad I won that motherfucker yeah so there's so many layers to your to your case though

this thing get thick it gets thick yeah yeah come on right right this thing gets big man don't watch that documentary come on this thing get real thick man so I had already predicted

that I was going to be telling politicians what to do do, I was going to be speaking to it. Universities, I don't even have a high school diploma. Yeah. If you go to my school and you put up my records, they're going to say that retarded. They're probably going to say retarded.

Because that's how I felt when I was in school. Because I couldn't spell the and it and cat. But then when I got to prison, And the brothers was like, the way out of here is through the law library, my man. And you're putting all your faith in that dude you gave that little money to. Okay.

Right. Who you work for? Right. And after they gave me that little tip, you know, I said, shit, I better learn how to read. And my partner made me some cue cards two or three weeks. I was reading the newspaper. Yeah, pre.

Yeah. in prison and it just went from near you know reading law books from reading the newspaper to reading law books interpreting the law but you know like with anything if you stay on it constantly right if you constantly make that show so a lot of times we we we say we want stuff or we don't do stuff but that ain't our real intention right you know your real intention is back in the back of your head like yeah I'm going to throw these motherfuckers for a curve, and then I'm going to do what I really want to do.

Right. You know, and hopefully what you really want to do, you know, is be successful. Right. But, you know, sometimes, you know, we want to be successful, but in the back of our mind, we already said that I'm going to doffin out. You know, I'm going to drink my way out of this shit.

I'm going to eat my way out of it. I mean, there's so many ways that people stop their self from succeeding. Right, yeah. You know, you know, I'm doing boxing now, too. Right. You know, I'm about to take over the boxing. I'm going to take that with the weed. Right.

They all wide open. Right. Ain't nobody guarding them. So with boxing, they got a sand where boxers eat their way out of a title. Right. You know, one minute they get great shape and fit. And then all of a sudden they get a little money. Start eating, stop running.

You know, don't want to. trained like they're supposed to and the next time you know he didn't lost and that's the same way basically with with basic life that if you doing things that's detrimental to the way that you're talking about going then it's going to take away from that that you're trying to accomplish and I just try not to do that to myself you know let somebody else do it to me it's okay it's better for them to do it to me than me to do it to myself right because they do it to me they could stop me while they're there but once they leave you know I'm going right back to the program right yeah I'm gonna stick to the mission so when he was 15

and at that moment he inspired you because you say you didn't finish school you just went straight into it just jump right into it not at 15 no I kept playing I kept playing tennis because I was under the impression that that that you could go pro and tennis you can you can you can go pro and tennis in like 14 years old if you got the money right right So I was thinking that, you know, one morning I was just going to wake up and explode. You know, my game was going to. And I ran experiments, too, even when I played tennis, like, I beat a dude who was, like, 101 in the world.

He was like Arthur Asch's right-hand guy. And he was from my neighborhood. But he was coming to get me, every time he'd come off serving, come and get me. I was his practice partner because I did school. You know, everybody else being in school, I did, I didn't, I ain't, fuck that. I ain't going to school today. I'm hitting with cornbread. Right, right.

So he would come and get me. So I beat him one time. You know, he went off on a circuit. So I tell my boy, you know, I say, man, I want to work hard as hell for a couple weeks. And when cornbread get back, I'm gonna be ready for him. So man, we worked for like a month straight. Right.

Hard than I ever worked before. When he got back, I beat him. I beat my other partner who, who graduated. When he graduated college, I think he was like two or three in the nation. I beat all of them because I put that kind of work in, but I didn't keep that kind of work ethic up. You know, I dropped back down after I accomplished my goal.

You know, my goal was the wrong goal. I didn't set the proper goal for myself. But yeah, yeah, yeah, from tennis, I just learned those strategies, you know, put the pressure on when you got it. You know, don't slack up. You know, like right now, people will be talking about a vacation. I ain't had a vacation in 14 years. I've been home 14 years.

I ain't took a vacation. You know, I work every day, Saturday, Sunday. My phone rang at 2, 3 in the morning. I'm picking it up. Somebody owed me $10 million, and I don't want to be able to say that I didn't pick the phone up when they called. Hell yeah. You hear me?

You're going to pick that motherfucker up. Right now. I know you're going to call that phone. You hear you. Because you're a man in your word. You hear me? I hope so. No cap.

Yeah, you're gonna call me. Shit. Yeah, so, you know, Wren, I'm just out here right now, man. I just feel like the luckiest man in the world, man. Right. Yeah. You know, just like you lose your life and then you get it back. But not only that, you get it back in a greater abundance than you ever thought was possible.

Right. Right. I mean, like right now, it just feel like, I don't know, like I don't even deserve it. Like, I don't even deserve this shit, you know, like, how the hell, you know, I'm, I question myself, you know, and I had to tell myself a couple days ago, like, how you're going to sell, if you can't sell yourself to yourself, how you're going to sell yourself to everybody else? And you questioning yourself about should you be in the position that you're in right now? Right, right. Should you be the one who doing the things that you're doing right now? Right.

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against you? See which ones and you know I've been up against a whole bunch of shit FX they stole my story right put it all that you know don't give me a date John, John Singleton, he eating lunch and dinner every day. He's getting a deal, know I'm broke with my homeless,

and he don't give me a job. So let's let the people know out there, if you don't know. I'm talking about the government shit and all of his life. That's what I'm talking about what you think right now. That's the government. Hold on, so F.A. Snowfall is your life. Come on, man.

Everybody know that's my story. I mean, mind of my business, man. Man, I ain't know. That's my story. Me and John Singleton was going to lunch. She was buying me lunch and stuff. We're going over the script. What they did Casabetti rope.

They changed the, they changed your connect. They did a lot of change in the base of that shit. Right, the base is your. What hooked everybody. Right. Nobody believed there's a tiger in South Central LA. Right, right. You can't sell that to nobody.

At least what's up, maybe you could sell it, you know, in some of these other states. You know, they might believe LA dudes got tigers and, you know, yours is too small. Where are you gonna keep it? Yes. Where you go? Come on, man.

So, so. I'm gonna just say that price off. Just imagine. You can't get this grown-assie. You can't get the piss smell out. Man, hey. That shit doesn't. You know, can't be pissing on shit.

They won't. They weigh like seven, eight hundred pounds. That's what I'm saying, fam. He better not sneezed or everybody in there. No cap. No cap. That's in a wrap. So it's my story.

John bought one of my first books. You know, I mean, I was so disappointed John. I'm like, damn, man, don't none of these negroes stand up? Don't none of them hold their own? Can none of them fuck with a real... You see, don't none of them mess with me. What entertainers you know, what entertainers you know that really fuck with me? I'm...

I ain't saying the ones that you see. when they see me, oh, big homie. Right. I'm talking about the ones who really fuck with me, who really come, you know who really fuck with me? Ooh. You know who got me on my feet? Ooh.

Some street motherfuckers. Wow. The motherfuckers out there who sell that dope and buy a book and don't read it. Sitting on their coffee table. Right, right, right. You know the ones who been buying my books. I know who've been, I know who been supporting me.

And how does that feel, though, just being such an inspiration? for what a lot of these people are doing they're running off with the sauce in different ways and you know you got you got to take the bitter with the sweet you know right if you never taste bitter you won't know what sweet is so I got it I just got to take that you know I got to deal with it you know people still in your name and you know won't even throw you a bomb right you know even before the lawsuit you know before I sued him I shouldn't even had to sue him he should have had a car at the front gate when I walked out the gate. At least a car, you don't take the whole name and a lot of the stuff that he heard me say, even some of that's in some of the music. So, you know, when you see all that,

you know, you just gotta say, damn, man, what's wrong with my people? My people fucked up. You help them. You help them. I help so many people, as soon as you help, when they get up and they kick you right in their ass. They don't appreciate it.

They haven't been taught to appreciate a friend. See, when I saw dope, I saw dope as a friend. I wasn't selling dope to destroy nobody. My mind was a little twisted. I didn't know cocaine was addicted when I first started. Right. Nobody was hooked on crack. Nobody know what a crack head was at first.

Right. The pimps were smoking, the doctors, Richard Pryor. You know, these are the motherfuckers. Oh, I want to be like them. Right, right. I used to want to be like Richard Pry. Right. Who didn't?

The man had money. Fucking Pam Grip. They was involved with cocaine. I want to be involved too. That's how I got started. You took that shit to another level. Cause I wanted for my brother what I wanted for myself. Right.

So they knew all my connections. All my guys knew my connections. I didn't hide them. Come on. Talk. Talk. Yeah, go ahead. Shoot your shot.

Just throw my point. You know what I'm saying? Just throw my point. Right. And I'm good. So, so, say, because you know, coming from the dog game, you know, niggas keep they plug. keep they plug and keep it you kept you you gave it away you like this my man yeah

as long as you don't miss use it right use it but don't miss use it the same thing I'm gonna do with the weed now I'm in I'm in five states right now fend to be in Michigan and uh Maryland and I'm gonna probably get a dispensary in Maryland all these dudes who getting that they're going they're going through burning all them people getting deals and they ain't gonna make no money Right. I'm gonna be the first one to open it up where they can really get some paper. Mm-hmm.

Because I ain't working for money. Mm-hmm. You're working to help a friend. That's right. All right. And when I found out when you help a friend sometime, they help you back. Yeah. You know, they say it's like a frisbee, you throw that out, and what you throw out and come back.

Right. If they start selling medical cocaine, you fucking with it? No, I ain't gonna fuck with cocaine. I was just, I might cut a corner again. That's why I almost didn't get in the weed business. I almost didn't get in the weed business. You did you ever fuck with weed when you was up in? I was just smoking.

You thought it was a trap, but you know, you know it's like, okay, it's legal. I could use what I know. But it took a bit of it. Right, right. Because you know, when I got in, I'd only been out. Well, I'd been out like four years. I'd only been out like four years.

Right. So, I was still like, you know, under that institutional thing, you know, like, and I see them all over the corners and everything, but I'm like, shit, I ain't got no license, you know. And then also that, that saying that you start with weed and then you go to how are the drugs. Right, right. And I had to think about that, you know, shit. I said, I started straight with cocaine first, so that theory don't work with me. Right, right, right. But it was hard for me to go into the business.

You know, I wouldn't talk to a few dudes that I respected from the game and ask their opinion about it, you know, what they thought. And I'm gonna be, it's crazy, all three them gave me their blessing and say, man, you're the right one. So here I am in the weed business. I love it. That's what cool.

That's great. I love it. Popper shit. All right. And one of the faces of social equity. Let me tell you a little bit about social equity. Talk it. Social equity.

We started in California where we're going and I'm kind of like if you go Google social equity, my picture might pop up, but I ain't the one started it. They just pushed me out front and I took it. But social equity is where we went to the state of California, the city of Los Angeles, and we demanded that people of color be allowed to participate in the marijuana, What we did is we got them to issue social equity. So if the license normally would cost you $500,000 with social equity, you can get that same license

for $5,000 or $10,000. Because she's qualified. Shit, I'm not getting to go out there. Hey, I'm not going to follow up there. Hey, hold on. I got to say this. This need to be said, because you said some shit, people are probably going to misinterpret it.

You said you sold cocaine as a friend. Right. But I don't think people realize. how all the shit you're doing now is to help people you're trying to get people out of jail out of these undue sense not just social equity you trying to get people sent it's anything to help the people man I wanted to ask you and when you were going through your law work you're saying that's when you're learning to read you go through your law work what did you find in your in your case files that they said

I can this is the angle that I can work oh well it's simple when you read the law under the three strike law, 851 in the feds, what it says is that anybody who has two convictions and receive a third conviction can be sworn to the United States prison for life without the possibility of parole. So my prosecutor, when he got me, it wasn't enough dope in this little sting. They did a reverse. thing on us anyway it was it was a total setup right this shit was total set up but anyway they didn't have enough dough it was only a hundred kilos this that ain't enough it wasn't enough shit not to give you a life sentence only a

hundred not at that time it no it still won't give you period it's less now a hundred kilos won't give you a life sentence yeah you need about I think you about five hundred kilos to get a life sentence you need a ton Is it a ton? Is it a ton? Might be a ton. I don't know. I used to know all that shit when I was in jail.

I knew the guideline book and all that. So, so he didn't have enough. So what he did is he went with the three strike law for me. Because I had a prior, we're really two or three prior convictions. Uh, uh, but they come from one arrest. You know, I never, I never been to jail before, but when they arrest me, they take me to Cincinnati, L.A., Texas, Louisiana. So all of them states was after me. So once I get found guilty of the first one, then I'm like, run the time concurrent.

I plead guilty, you run the time concurrent. So they were like, all right, we don't want to spend no money on you either. You're going to give us our number, and we'll call it even. So I'll give them the number. Boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, so now I got three convictions. So when I get out, they got my supplier who's turning to an informant. Right.

And he's from Nicaragua. He was part of the CIA stuff. That's how all the CIA. He was doing the contra and shit running the door. That's how all the CIA and consry and guns and all that stuff come in because of him. He was the one. So while I'm in jail, he gets busted. And he flipped.

And then he flipped. So when I get out, he's still in jail. He's just getting busted. But I don't know, because I ain't in touch with him. So anyway, he'd find. He'd get my phone number, call me, and start talking to me, you know. And I think I'm through it dope, but, you know, I love that shit. It's hard.

You know what I'm saying? I loved it. You know. I loved it. And then I was building this theater, right? I was building a pile of West where I was going to have a youth center and tennis courts. And I bought the building before I went to jail. And I was fixing it up.

It was going to be, it was going to be cold, like 4,500 people. So it was going to be a place where rappers could come. And then we can hold the money we make from the club was going to go back to taking care of the youth part. for you know all that and then they came to me was like why are you trying to raise money when we got all the money you need we got that thing we can show you how to get that money and it was a setup the whole time was just a cold setup they was trying to lock me up and i wouldn't selling no dope i wouldn't i wouldn't mess with no dope at that time you want I wasn't selling no dope.

I hadn't sold dope then in six years. I was clean. But they got you on buddy testimony, right? So you had an hour to stop selling dope by that time. I stopped selling dope before they ever arrested me. But the cold part about that shit is. They never called me with no dope. I never been called with no dope.

They hit you. You know, like dope right here or them raiding the house and my guy, you know, my guy got the dope. They ain't never none of that. You just called you out of me and said, Hey man, got so funny. Yeah. Yeah.

And they take this testimony as word when they ended up a contract. He got the dog. He didn't want to say he got the dog. And he's going to front it to me. Yeah. And then when I see, the ones to informant going there, he can say anything. Man with and sold 60 million keys, man, me and him together. It was all his shit, though.

And that's on there. Oh, and they used the pack of pistol when you were around. He tried to tell the jury is that I'm the reason that he kept selling dope. He said he was going to quit. He said, I kept giving him money. Right. Right. Right.

And they bought that shit? They buy that shit. But he was also working... For the CIA. He has a CIA operative. So it was a plan from the get-go? I don't know, man. This is complicated.

You know, and I don't even really get into that part, but... Right. Because it's so, you know, it's so, you know, so... People won't understand, you know... Right, right. We don't want to say too much. They're already stealing your eyes and shit. There's...

That shit ever bother you knowing that this is those people. Like, it don't get no higher than them. And for you to personally know how they play this shit. I'm sitting in my cell, man, and they slide a paper up under my door. They say, the president of the United States just mentioned your name. I was like, wow. And then I'm reading Malcolm X's book, right? when I go to Cincinnati and Ross Perrault, Bill Clinton, George Bush was running for president.

And they had all three of their picture right next to my big picture. The $10 million man come to town to go to trial. They had a bigger picture of me on the newspaper than they had of the three dudes running for president. I said, shh. I said, these people are going to do, they're doing something for you. They lining you up. Because I just read Malcolm's book, and I saw how Malcolm was able to flip his situation.

And I was like, damn, you might be able to flip harder than Malcolm flipped. Yeah. So I just went to work. I knew I was going to win my case. Bring me them business books. Credit. I just got a text last night. for one of my students, my best student party

since I got home on the credit game. She hit me last night with a video. She'd been working about seven months. A million dollars were for credit cards. Got a credit book, yeah. See, what, my stuff ain't popped like that yet because I'm an addict. I take all money and dump it back in.

I keep dumping it back in, so mine ain't really, like, exploded yet. But I figure in about six months, seven months, you know, like right now, I'm going to do a mixtape. I'm looking for artists right now. I ain't set how much money I'm going to give to the winner, but it's going to be at least $150,000. I'm going to get to the artist. I'm looking for artists for myself. I want to put an artist out now.

So I'm going to have a contest. I don't know, a mixtape or something for the best artist. that I can find. Yeah, too. Somebody. I got all the producers. I got all the producers, baby. They all fuck with me.

Now, them producers, different stories. Yeah. They fuck with me. They know. Yeah, they fuck me. You're the OG, man. You start all this shit. My boy, Fonderoy,

Bobby Vila called me last night, Brian Kennedy, rock star. Oh. You called me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

You know what you're talking about. We're going to put, we're going to put, well, I'm going to put a mixed tape together. It's going to be five. This thing going to be like, I'm going to make a statement like, because you do a little music don't mean nothing. You know, I'm sure in the box is the same thing, like, you know, my boy Anthony Peterson, he can't get, no, none of them, don't want to touch him. You know what I'm saying?

Let's get on. They're scared of them. What way class in? 35 40. He said he don't care who it is, what their name is, how many belts they got. You know, and he got a story too, man. His brother is Lamont Peterson. Uh-huh, uh-huh. And they went through a lot, man, people took advantage of them, you know, because they had that street love. You know, you know, you know how dudes is, man, and like a lot of people don't understand why these gangs are so tight.

You know, why they'll kill for each other, why they'll die for each other, or with each other. or with each other, you know. That's a mentality that these people don't understand, you know, and if you ain't from that, you won't, you won't get it. And that's how we allow so many people to take our money. Yeah. You know, black people, we allow other people

to come in with all kind of schemes and things and wind up. But in your documentary, they were saying that you were able to move around the whole city. amongst all the people and shit, like different gangs and all this. I do that right now. Yeah. I just left Memphis. I ain't got nobody go out.

Right. I ain't got nobody going. Right. Right. Go to Chicago, I ain't got nobody. Matter of fact, Chicago, though, I brought Bible and swag. And me and y'all coming together, man. They got a thing.

They want to stop all this youngsters from killing me. Right, facts. Well, you know, when you got to the PIN, remember, I showed you how to shepherdsize, because somebody had to show me how and I knew you probably fit the same category I fit. So I taught you the same thing. Right. Instead of having a lot of spread.

That's the only way we're going to lift ourselves up. You know, is if we take the time out and help each other. Right. But we can't keep supporting the same systems that has taken us down. That's what I was going about. That's what I was going to be. Like, how did you know you just say you knew you was going to win your trial? I was just going to say you got that appeal.

Because I could read, I could read, right? I could read. And once I read, remember, I told you about the three strikes. Right. So I didn't finish telling you that, did it. My bad. I get, I go, I go all off track. Go ahead.

Oh, man. All those shit is we won't head off. We won't head off. I get arrested one time. No drugs. No drugs. No drugs. No drugs.

Never. Some of I'm on the phone saying, no, motherfucker, I don't fuck with you no more. And they still indict him. Damn. Hey, guess what he told me? Guess what the prosecutor told my lawyer. He said, oh, no, we don't think, we think Rick might win in trial. But if he lose, he's going to get 44 years.

Fuck that. He wanted you to take that plea. He said, take the plea. He said, I just want the conviction. Why? What was the police? They need a head. They need a head to put on the wild, bro.

Ten years. Ten years. That's all that. That's all they wanted ten. The first time I got ten. But see what they thought they were setting up at is they, they was thinking that I was going to have three convictions, which is three strikes. Right. You would think they'd three strikes.

Right. But then when I started reading the law books, the law books started explaining what the strike was. So I find out that a strike is if you commit a crime, go to prison, get out, commit another crime, go to prison, get out, you got two strikes. Right. Now the difference in my case is that when I went to prison, I got three strikes. Off one. Off one. I never got out.

So technically, I had never been punished. punished right see prison they consider prison of punishment so once you've been punished you come out there's a strike that's a strike right but that didn't happen to me so when I saw that I was like oh man they gonna have to rewrite their whole book I'm going on right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and then they all got twisted off of where they're different states I said the book don't say if they different states right They don't mention different mistakes at all.

This was federal. This was... The one thing they mentioned was intervening arrest. Which is... Got out of prison. Right. I never got out. I never got out.

There was no intervening arrest. And that killed it for him because the court stood on that. The appeal court stood on it. They gotta be that intervening arrest. But they should have threw my whole case out of it. Because my informer shouldn't even been over here, man. He ain't had no... I got him kicked out the country.

He ain't had no... He didn't have no papers. He didn't have no papers. They forged his paperwork. Oh, no matter. The government. Not all. I got you.

So now you got a fake person. Yeah. Testifying in court. Yeah. You ain't supposed to be over here, bro. I'm glad I do cover it. Damn, they wanted you off them streets bad. Oh, man.

That is fucking insane. They're going to force a nigga paperwork just to tell. I didn't stop. I didn't stop. I kept, hey, I kept swinging so he could be the plug. I kept swing. And any sting that was going on. Hey, he wasn't saying, no problem.

I kept swinging. They put my story on TV. I kept swinging. I ain't going to stop swinging. I'm going to keep it. It's the whole operation. Do what you do. Do what you do.

I'm going to keep swinging. I'm going to stop swinging. So how long did you do in Chang? 20 and three months. I thought the business was teens. Yeah, but I did two, two bits. I did two bits. Oh, God.

The 10 got knocked down the fire. That's a whole nother story. You don't even want to get into that one. That's another show by corrupt cops and shit. Cops stealing money, beat motherfuckers in the head, letting dogs bite them while. I got ramparts on. Huh?

The rampart. No, that's something. The ramp park was an offshoot of the freeway. freeway the freeway was the first ones then was the ones that didn't go to jail they got away yeah they got away because you know I I put a problem investigator on their ass that's a whole nother stuff I'm telling us snowfall y'all y'all think snowfall is something you're gonna see a real smart motherfucker when the movie come out and we financed right the movie financed I won't eat man

Hold on, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Hey, wait. I can't. I can't, wait. Independent. Call me. Independent.

So all I'm saying, when you, when you hired. All of y'all was saying that I wasn't going to get it done if I didn't go through you. You ain't going to get it done. I'm going to speak for everybody here. We, we won't roll. I won't even. And I love the goddamn whatever you've got with this.

I got you. I got you. I got you. I want to play some gangster shit. So, look. So what was it? You not told one of your homeboys the other day. from California, one of the old-school rappers.

I can't mention their name. I don't believe me. Say, man, this movie here bigger than money, man. It's shit bigger than money. Facts. Hold on, I'm trying to figure out what the private investigators found out. You're saying it's low budget? That ain't going to be no low budget.

No, they ain't. Like 20. It's going to be slow budget. Like 20. Hold on. I want to know what the private investigator found. Me. Flip.

you hired a pro- man what if he came back it was like man these niggins some goddamn freaks all they like is flat-booted women they cut the bitch's ass off no I spent any too much money for that I don't want to know about no ass so the prep some dirt how many we need some dirt he found it oh he said it was all over the place he was dirty he said it was all over the place on the river's and Houses up in Aspen, Colorado. They were dirty.

He's by the whole bunch of dirt. He said dirt was everywhere. He's like, damn, I can't believe. These are narcotic agents. Look. Robbing all the drug dealers. Robbing them. But they was colder than that.

They wouldn't just rob you, right? See if they come over your crib, you got a million dollars at the crib. You ain't got no dope. This is your crib. Right. When you're back your mom, I mean, your old lady, your kids. You know, this is where the family. I don't know why they come out there, you know what I'm saying?

They come in, they find a million dollars, plant two keys of cocaine on you. And what they take? The money. All right. Every dollar. They might leave like 40,000 to go with the cocaine, you know, so when they go in to the judge,

look how smart they was. You go into the judge, Your Honor, the money mine, but the cocaine ain't. Right. Right. Right. Don't look at you like you crazy. Right.

The money is yours, huh? But the cocaine ain't don't belong to you. What judge gonna believe that shit? Right. And then you're gonna tell ya and it was more. Yeah, it was more money. Right. He took my money, man.

Hey man, fuck you, I'm gonna tell the truth. I had way more money than that. I had sold all my cocaine, though. I know for a fact. Oh, my dope a girl. Yeah, but that's, that's, that's, that's, that's, that you can't really accept none of that shit. Like, I ain't, none of that shit, man. You can't, 40,000 or cocaine.

I ain't, I ain't have no money in that motherfucker. Well, I mean no what? I like, yeah, listen, I had a birth certificate in that big, I don't even have enough for two keys of cocaine. Come on, man. He's, I only had 40,000. You have 40,000. That's a cold situation to be put in.

That's gone. Especially when he's planted on you and you know you can't do nothing about it. You're like, man. no damn well. Now, I got to fight out of this. How much was a key when you first started getting? First key I bought was $48,000. But what you, was the, when you got,

I heard, I saw something I think you said you cooked a kilo in the microwave because you had it to do. First time, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. How, what price they was at there? Still 48?

Oh no, I got, I was getting key. The cheapest I got them was not. Oh, shit. Oh, shit. I'm like, can you sell it for $48? No, no, no. When I was getting them for $48,000, I make $200,000. Okay.

So shit. So the price of cocaine was fluctuating like that. So then you got it for now. No, no. Well, what happened is we pushed the price down. We thought that it would be better if it was cheaper. Right. So we pushed the price down to make it affordable for everybody.

Right. And then, you know, a couple guys that I taught how to sell cocaine, you know, they learned how to sell cocaine maybe better than I learned how to sell cocaine. Right. And then we got, because we homey, so we can't have no physical war. Right. But we got drug wars, you know, with the prices. Right. Tommy selling them for this.

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The message from NHTSA and the ad council. What did you say? Because cat from L.A. At the height of, you're letting you know, gee, I just got to salute you. But at the height of, how much money was you making my week? At the height, she's. Some weeks maybe. 11 million, 10 million, but go through my hands.

A week. A week. Yeah. I had weeks like that. But you still had to re-up, though, like all up. Oh then, all over with mine. Yeah, all over, but you still had to cat it up. Of a million, I get like 200,000.

Right. You still got to be made, though. That shit still got to be made. Got them put in the $800,000 work for you to get your $200,000. Well, that's what got the price is that money. Facts. That money buy the price. Right.

You can't get the price. You ain't got no money. Nobody want to give you nothing. You ain't got no money. Right. Same thing with the weed. I'm going to win in the weed business because I'm going to have money. Right.

You know, I'm going to be able to go to him and put money on the table and be like, you're going to take it to leave because if not, I'm going to go right over there and I'm going to buy from him. Fair. And then once, you know, once they're riding it all the way down to the ground like they're doing now. Facts. And then I'm going to say, okay, now I'm going to buy your farm. I'm going to buy your farm. for him.

Right. You don't know what to do with that either. Right. I'll take it. Right. I'll take it. You're talking to the man, man. Oh, I'll take it.

All legal, man. Yeah, man. It's going to be fun, man. This new ride is going to be fun. Man, I appreciate it. I got to come to some of the boxing masses, man. I don't give a fuck what it is. Whatever you need me at, I don't know.

Oh, G. You know, my guy Anthony Peterson, he's going to be fighting in D.C. Uh, October the first. Bishon Champ going to fight October 8th in San Antonio and then Kidd Austin going to fight on the 22nd in in California, Pond Springs. So we're going to be out there, man. Y'all come watching, man, they, I'm going to get me a title. Yeah, I'm going to get me a title. Man, I can't wait to see the movie, man. I'm undefeated right now in the ring.

We're undefeated me in most around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's good. We're waiting on the movie. We can't wait to see you. Oh man, two my boys told me. My boy over Bella said, get y'all this here.

Y'all got free cleaning. No care. Where's it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Y'all see that smile. That's who did my smile. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

You want to smile. You want to smile like me, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So he said if y'all just come about, he's going to look out for y'all. Fats, right. No, man. We appreciate your L.G. We see you've been working.

you've been working with the kids and talking to them. What kind of advice you've given them these days? To the youngsters in general. If you can sell dope, you can do anything. If you can sell dope, you can do anything. If you can sell dope, you can do anything. Okay. Look at Rick Ross.

Look where he comes from. That's all you got to do. Talk about you, though. Yeah. Yeah. That other guy named ain't know Rick Ross. So I would never be caught him Rick Ross. call him by his real name because I know it right William Roberts damn

you know what I'm saying he he gonna go down in history man the guy that stole Rick Ross's name that's his legacy you the real you're real that don't go to the bathroom please Lock the door, man. I mean, besides your story, are you interested in doing any more movies? I'm going to finance movies. My goal is to finance, to be in a position to finance at least one movie every month with a couple million dollar budget. Yeah, I was going to go back to the million dollars.

a million dollars and you said like 11 or 12 million dollars a week in cash yeah hell yeah that 44 million niggins yeah yeah shit the weed business though they say they say they say California weed business is gonna be 58 billion dollars a year and I say if I just card me out 5% of that for myself and my people right it's great would be good you see but you see no no no go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead go ahead go with you play We ain't gonna need nobody to give us computers. We ain't gonna need nobody to house us. You know, we take care of all our own shit

with just 5% of that, $58 billion. So carve it out. I told them to carve it out. They can go ahead and carve it, you know what I'm saying, right now. But look how many people that's incarcerated for weed. But when the government said, well, we won't end, now it's okay to sell weed. It's the same weed.

Not even only okay. You could trade that shit on the stock market. Worse than that. No, you know, it's even worse than that. It's the same fucking weed, nigger. They cutting out the people who started the industry. Right. They are.

They cut out dudes who live off of selling wheat. It's people out here to live or take care of their families from selling weed. And now you're cutting off their livelihood and telling their they can't even get in the market. That's what's real for. fucking. Right. Right.

Because that's all the best weed deal is locked up. Right. I don't like going to dispensary. That's your trade. I want to go to somebody who's been knowing how to sell weed. That's what's going to kill their market. Because they ain't letting the people in who buck the system in the first place. Who started?

Who started it? They're infrastructure. The quiet is going on. We don't get fucking about them bad. Hey, look, I had put it out at one time, infrastructure. We're on good way. No count. Hey man, welcome back today to Fast SEP Show.

We're in here with none other than free weight. We're in here, man. We're in here, man. Real deal, hold it for you. Man, your life has been so entertaining. And we appreciate, you know, you probably putting your story out there. Like you said, it's got the number one documentary on Netflix.

It's some more episodes, man. That's what I'm saying. Like you said, there's so much shit that goes along with this story, like the crooked cops and the setups and the snitches and the station wagons and the... Man, we can keep going. Right. That's why this thing going to run for about 10 or 15 years

when I do this, this real TV, some real TV show. Yeah. Some real street stuff. What's one of the most shocking things that you learned in your case? To you, when you first seen me, you just couldn't believe this shit was real? That the president of the United States said it was okay to sell cocaine? Uh, yeah. He didn't tell everybody that.

If he allows the CIA to bring it into the country, then he okay then he okayed. Right? You know, some people say, Nancy say, just say no and, and Mono said it act like you don't know. Damn. What happened? So the CIA admitted that they knew their guys were selling cocaine. Okay. But they act like they didn't know.

What's the most cocaine you ever seen at once? I don't know. You know, a couple hundred keys. Couple, a hundred. Not a hundred, harnup. That's another number. That's a lot. But I'm gonna be controlling all the weed.

How many tons of weed I'm gonna be controlling? Right way though. See, like I just told my guys the other day, right? I don't know, I get crazy sometimes. You got to. I'm a little off. But I told him, I said, look, man, you know I'm writing this new book. I said, how do you want to be portrayed in this new book?

You know you're going to be in there. Like all of these chumps that I've been speaking to and talking to and giving me no help. The whole story is going to be in the book. I'm putting everything that happened to me in the book. So I asked my homies, I was like, man, how do you want to be portrayed in this new book? We know how you was betrayed in the old one. Mm-hmm. Are you gonna keep that same storyline?

Mm-hmm. Or your storyline gonna change. You're gonna elevate to another level. Mm-hmm. And just had that conversation with him. So I spoke at a black empowerment group, Saturday and Sunday, and I told them the same thing, that today is the beginning.

is the beginning of your new book and you got the right to write your future in this book right now today or where you plan on going in your life and once you write that book then you have to start living that life in order to accomplish that which you said you wanted to be the end of the book if that makes sense no more than that definitely makes it bro because you write the book and don't do it then that book is a false book speaking of the book where can they find your book i didn't get my book at freer rickie ross.com please don't go to amazon this is jeff bezo pays me very little but you can't get it on amazon

uh but if you would but don't And if you get it for mine, I'm gonna autograph it too. Yeah, yeah, that's dope. And then that makes it almost like an NFT. Oh, family. It's gonna be places that you can go with that book. There you go. Just cause it's autograph.

It got no autograph. Now I know you bought it from Amazon and you don't get in. You can't get in. You can't get it. I like your book. But it ain't the one I... Oh, who made that? It ain't the one I gave.

You feel me? No care. Outside of that, Boy, that's your feet. They're going to have it signed by the other Rick Roe. No cap. That ain't mean? No, man, you gotta make sure.

You're going to say, wrong. Okay. When you didn't realize you was in that shit thick with the CIA and the Congress and all that shit. When I was sitting in prison with a life sentence without the possibility of parole. And Gary Webb from the San Jose Mercury News, who's no longer with us, longer with us. He killed himself, so they say, shot himself in the head twice. Twice? With a 12-gauge shotgun, I think they said. That's what, with a 12-gauge shotgun. I don't know if it was a 12-gauge or not, but shot himself in the head twice.

He's the one that broke the story and started this big whirlwind about the CIA planting drugs into the black community. Damn. That's real. Real. That really happened. He was a reporter? Yeah, yeah, he was a reporter from, he was a world-renowned reporter. He wasn't just the reporter.

He was like this big-time reporter. Before we get out of, can you tell us what you know about that particular part about them putting the drugs in the black community? Some people have heard it, but from somebody who actually actually was there in real life. It might just hit different. I didn't really know much about with the CIA. I didn't know nothing about the CIA

until I went to prison. But, you know, my drug supply was a CIA operative. So he was one of the nexus to the to the puzzle. But I didn't know much about that. I was, you know, young ghetto boy,

as long as they brought me good, dope, cheap prices, I was happy. That's all I cared about. If it came from the CIA or the Mexican Mafia, I didn't care of Cali cartel, Medell, it didn't matter to me. You know, as long as they met my price and gave me great stuff, then I was cool with it. So I only found out about that when I went to prison.

But Gary's book is kind of like, well, not only Gary's book, you know, the CIA admitted that they knew the guys were. selling drugs you know they admitted it on their own self you know they had records too many records that was showing transactions that they couldn't say that they didn't know you know they had to they had to admit it so they admitted that yeah we knew they were sudden dope but we didn't sanction it man cold guy you got them niggins up listening yeah that's what I told you man it's

a whole generation of people Even hot pockets. Who think that... Like I'm saying, it's a whole generation who think that shit didn't really happen, man. Yeah, it really happened. In a generation, like, I'm past, but it's still that happened. In real life. Real life.

Yeah. But it's happening again right now, though. Right in a different kind of way, though. It's a different drill. What year that one? Uh, early 80s. That shit was still Jet Popper dog. Popper dog.

You got a nigga talking about the beginning of the 90s dude. What about the early 80? Damn. Any questions? I got one. You know, it's kind of total. You guys are similar and opposite in a way, but have you had any conversation with Big Beach ever, and would you have any advice in any of his case with his history and how you got a similar difference?

Yeah, Meets used to call me when I first got home. Meach, Meach started writing me, Wendy Day wrote me one, one day. And she said, she asked me had I heard about Meach getting arrested and by-da-bye. And I told her, yeah, I wrote it back and I said, yeah, I heard about it. And she was like, will you, will you talk to him? And we started a conversation through the mail. When I got home, he used to call me until my P.O. They took me back to court.

They almost violated me for taking calls from prison when I got out. So Meets was one of the people who used to call me. And I had to stop taking calls from people that was in prison. So I was ordered by the judge to stop taking calls from people from prison. And that was the last time I talked to him, you know.

But yeah, we used to talk. Yeah. What do you think his chances are beating his, getting his appeal like that? I don't know, you know, it's hard to say. You know, I don't keep up with the law anymore. It's, right now, I'm on a paper check. right now.

Because they ain't making dollars, it ain't making sense to me right now. You're doing what necessary. Yeah, I found out you can't function out here. You ain't got no, they don't nobody respect you, you ain't got no money. You can be the smartest motherfucker in the world. You ain't got no money. They ain't gonna show you no respect. So I said, you know what, go ahead.

Let's put some paper together so we can show them that there ain't a number of paper. Make all this you want. Fuck you're talking to my, all I care about this paper. Oh gee, I'm telling you, babe. Stack it to the ceiling. You're here, that's all I fucking know. Don't care. Well, it's good to see you in good spirits, man.

Man, I'm loving life right now, man. Take control, man. Keep God first. Keep working, man. Yeah, this stuff's so good. You want water as soon as you. I can use it. Yeah, give me a one.

Appreciate it, appreciate it. You've never been the magic yet, die out here, O.G. Yeah, I don't know. I don't been to every strip club. Oh, man. Oh, man. So you probably in here and the strip club in the country, man.

They better let you win. Yeah, yeah. You haven't caught up. You were there with a labra can dabbra. They didn't pay me to come to a couple of these street clubs. Yeah. Hokees. They gave me a little bit of the rural treatment.

Yeah, you know. Put the money in my pocket, you know. I go there and sell them books. That's where the boys and we buy them books. Working home. Yeah. They got them books. Yeah, they got it.

I only got $100 for a book before. You got a book right now? Nope. I sold out. What are they're talking about? I sold out, man. We got any more questions in hand. I got you.

Anybody else? I need me one sign. Say the name of the book. Freeway Ricky Ross, untold out of biography. 21 keys to success. What are some of them? Give us three. The first one, get a hundred.

Determination, you gotta be determined. Without determination, there's nothing. Let's go. Save at least 20% of everything you earn is yours to keep. Make your money work for you. Don't work for money. work for money.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you started clapping out, I was going to see how many more he got me. I know he only going to cut it off. He had to cut him off. Nah, you know he only going to give us a sample. No, he didn't get into it. I can see it. Uh-uh, man.

Y'all are clapping shit. Too damn early. Shit. He was about to be like. I can't remember that. I need the book. You got to get the book. Yeah, that's why I was telling you we need to find this book.

We need the finance book. Because man, niggas is gonna listen to a nigger who made $11 to $15 million a week. In the 80s. Yeah. That's like $40 million now. But nigger, I understand though, even in our culture, bro, respect, it has to be, it's earned. But also given when you know a nigger, none laid down that foundation and they put that work in. It took the chance that came back.

You. Facts. Come on, man. Nick, somebody was here before you. Johnny Cash shit. Falk a low and one. Hmm. So off 11 million, you made two.

You made $200,000 a million. You made about $1.1.1. I don't know. 1.2? No, he made all 11. But that's more than that, though, because that's 2, 4, 6, 18. That 1 million. Just tell me, it was all money.

It was money every goddamn win. I'm gonna like 2.2? 2.2. Offi lemke. 2.4, 6, 8. I'm going off a million. Off 11 million, food. 24, 6, 8 million.

eight million, two, four, six, eight million. Off the other million, two, two point two. Two point two million. Clayton, where are you? I think so. No, man. He black, black man got fifteen million dollars. I'm gonna fuck who they owe, they keeping most of that.

No, you got to pay the plug. Yeah, but the plug, you don't order plug nine million dollars. No, yeah, I pay for the product. not but you gotta keep in mind like you don't already did that you got to pay these little levels of plug-ism when a nigger has to give you some shit that you ever never thought you pay that man his money man yeah he get paid one week but the mother three weeks is proper all we don't work like that all right pay that man him money how you go he left me no you ain't playing you ain't playing with a nigga black i k't in two in two weeks he gonna

send a private jet you gonna bring that fucking money no they know you know you know you You got, that's the thing about it. Ain't no urgent. They're not tripping off the money, like give my goddamn money right fucking now. About that, I need you too. What are you talking about? I need you too.

Give me my money so you can get this other shipment in. They're not worried about that shit. I might give you another load without my money. Yes, they will. Somebody fin to come back at your dough. They literally know you got all the money. They're outside. Man, please hear this thing.

They don't know what the fuck they're talking about. They're outside. No, they want you to have the dope. You're good. Get it. Get it. Get it. But I send me my money.

What do you need? They're not tripping about the money. They're not tripping about the money, but they know at the end of the day, it's not a, I'm giving you this and then you have a certain amount of time to get it. I need my money once you got your, you get your product later. Hey man, it's shit ain't like the movies. I don't know if this actually. You don't even know where to take this money to give it to these people at.

You ain't gonna be the one to get to them. Exactly. That what I'm trying to tell you, so the shipment are already coming because the money on the way. Fuck it. shit hypothetical anyway. Yeah, very much so. You don't know what kind of relationship they had. They might not.

Hey, y'all get this when you get the next one? Yeah. Boy, this is a hypothetical. This is big money shit. They were just in the room laughing at the bar. Who's buying the cocaine? All the bricks on me. They're free this week.

It's Christmas. Rick, take 500 more. CAA. Ah! Okay, okay. Why everybody go to jail? I'm just playing. I'm just playing.

What are you going to do? All right to ask me? Everybody. Please. Police ship, everyone. Police chief. Fuck. Good care.

You stupid. I see you. Okay. Then they don't get a fuck. Well, shit, man. You know, we could literally do this. Oh. We got to do it again.

But this is part. We're going to say that when we post this, we're going to tell them that it's part one of ten. So you got to come back nine more times. Yeah, yeah. But did tag it would be like after like the movie drop. Yo movie, you feel, we want to be exclusive. You drop the website again so people can know how they can support you.

Well, if I win the world title, I should be back in here. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's gonna be, yeah. Or come before to promote the world title. All right, we'll do that too. Yeah, we're gonna work somewhere maybe one of the artists when I find my artist that this gonna be the coldest artist in the game. Yeah, they're gonna take one you see when you find them.

They're gonna take, I was watching 85,000. I was doing it just thank God that you should like you can you can send their music hit me on our Instagram freeway Rick I'm telling you don't do that send them to send them to your manager so they flood in your shit they can flood me all right I'm gonna ask for my I like them why this I like them well we got to get you to sign the table before yeah we need this one all right everybody else doesn't sign it but find you a spot ain't never be excited it is hey hey There it go.

And I'm gonna get you to sign this article for you. Yeah, I need you to sign something for me too. I don't know what. You know I got the book already. What's the name? That motherfucker. I'm gonna tell my son. Listen, this is my mother here.

What's the 23? In 23. And 23. 2.2 million. Oh, he's 85 South show. Freeway Rick, man. Yeah. Yes, sir.

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