The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Gary Chambers in the Trap!

Episode Date: October 22, 2022

Civil rights activist and candidate for U.S. Senate in Louisiana Gary Chambers sits down with Karlous Miller and Clayton English. || Subscribe to 85 SOUTH on YouTube: www.youtube.com/c/The85SouthShow || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There's a lot of playing in the political games. Yeah. I understood. You gotta be a big player. Yeah. Nothing light. Nothing like, especially when you're coming for Louisiana type shit. Man.

That's how you feel? Bro, we got tears in here and you're gonna play that. You could have been signed the Young Money. You're gonna play that one me and you was working on for Nicky Minaj. Yeah? What you mean, make all? You heard that J-O-N-W. My wife's say, oh, he make beats.

Hell no, he don't make beats. He's a producer, Ted. He plays instruments. No, that little shit, Ryan Lesson to be playing that. Don't nobody know how to play for him? He know how to play it. Went to school on the Sousapone scholarship. Come on, man.

Hey, don't play him now one. Don't play him now one. Don't play him now one. I'm bullshit. Don't play him that one. Jirul already said he wanted that. Yeah, we're going to play. Yeah, don't play him Jaru.

I'm telling you. That's the one. Let me hear it. That sounds like something that you'll win an election too right there. You know we got a song, huh? You got a song? We did a song, Mr. Hanker did a song for us.

Why you ain't, well, we ain't got it? Play, uh, to earn. Can you, can you deliver to Mr. Hanker? Deliver to Mr. Hanker. Can I do what? Get the song, the, uh, I got it on my phone. The, the song? Yeah.

What you want me to air grab this? Yeah, you got the final one. You're over there with him in 50. Cause you-in the final one. And she rapping on it. For real? Yeah. What?

Not the press secretary. We came in there. You did it at the, what's the studio we did it at? No. That's too good, man. It's too good. I'm the blackest person you'd never seen in politics. What a shirt is they say that?

I like to say. Now, that's the, that's the campaign right there. Say that shit again. One more time, please, for the camera. I'm the blackest person you'd never seen in politics. Let's go. That's the name of this episode. Blackest person in politics.

The blackest person in politics, bro. Blackest man in politics. Well, how did you, how did you start your political journey? Because I feel like we're doing this shit. That's better than. Accident. I was a small business owner. I had two of my best friends,

and I started a business called the Rouge Collection. Yeah. It was a black media company in Bad Rouge, and we ended up. up along the way writing these stories about issues that happened around the country. Trayvon Martin got killed. I had a platform, I wrote a column. Mike Brown got killed. I had a platform, I wrote a column, and I hold my first town hall. My first town hall, probably 20 people came to. I knew a preacher, the preacher knew a politician. I had a little panel, I put it on my

website, people showed up. 2015, a brother named Lamar Johnson was pulled over by the police in Baker, Louisiana, which is a little town right outside of Baton Rouge. Ooh, he fucked up. The police stop actually goes well. Lamar had a warrant. The cop says, I got to take you to Paris Prison for this warrant.

Let him call his mama. He calls his mom. Lamar ends up at Parrish Prison. Three days later, they say he hung himself. This is a few weeks before Sondra Blan, and his story don't go viral. I wrote a column about Lamar. Forty thousand people read that column.

A few months later, the district attorney in Baton Rouge was trying to open a misdemeanor jail, which was around the people who had simple traffic violations, bench warrants, put them in this temporary jail for the weekend to basically pay off their debtor's prison. That's kidnapping. So my thoughts were, if you already got people who can't pay a traffic ticket, that's why I didn't come to court. I couldn't pay the ticket. Now you make me miss work, right? So now I don't go to work, now I can lose my job. So the person who's impacted by poverty is more deadly impacted as a result of these type of decisions.

So I go to my first city council meeting after writing columns about this. Two dozen other young black men showed up and we killed a misdemeanor jail. And that's how I got into politics. I didn't get into politics because... But at that same meeting, they had the agenda where you could read all. all of the things that's coming up on the agenda that day. And so I was looking at the agenda and it said 75,000 of this company and 180,000 of this company and 500,000 of this company.

So I'm inquisitive. So I go look up and see, well, what's this company? Who owns these companies? Go to the Secretary of State website. Look at the people. None of the board and directors, none of the CEOs look like me. I live in a city that's 56% black. So then I started asking questions.

Well, how much of the money that the city spent come to black people? None. 2%. Whoa, that ain't none. That's more than I would have thought. 2% of city parish contracts were going to black people at the time. So we had a black mayor.

So I challenged that black mayor. I wrote a whole lot of columns, created a whole lot of controversy. People was pissed off at me. Didn't make a lot of friends in the beginning, but we did make a lot of change. Because now there's an office of diversity and inclusion in the city of Baton Rouge

because we helped elect the first bar. black woman mayor, Sharon Weston Broome, who helped create that. We help put more black council members who would be intentional about putting money and resources in the hands of black entrepreneurs, help pass the biggest Rhodes project in the city of Baton Rouge in support of our mayor. Now that Rose project, over 20% of those dollars are going to go to black businesses. And that's a billion dollar project, right? When we talk about trying to build black wealth, it's cool to build apartment complexes and all of that stuff like that,

but the real resources is in, how can you tap into the government resources to build your companies? Yeah, yeah, that's real, man. We've been, just think about it. That's 2% in Batroo's, what's it like in these other cities? I think that when you look at the numbers in every city, not just the city is the state.

Every local municipality is spending money, right? So every one of them take your tax dollars, put them into the pot, and then they decide where that money, goes based on the people that are the legislators on your city council the cab county fulton county that's two different councils right there's two different bodies of people making decisions about money that gets moved around then you take that up to the state level right that's a different body of people making decisions about your money and the federal level and at every level of that

they're giving out contracts and the people who getting them don't look like me and you right right i've been thinking about starting me a little side business fixing plato over It's lucrative. I know it. I did the research. And I'm black too. You gotta get the money first though. No you don't.

Yeah you do. That's why they don't really want nobody fixing the potholes because they really don't cause shit. Yeah, it's cheap. Yeah. Domino's was doing the shit for free. With piece of money. Exactly.

You got government money. I need to be federally funded. You feel me? Yeah. How much of money, how much of the, of the, of the, of the, uh, Of the, like you said, from the past, how much of it is being stolen, though? I can't tell you how much being stolen.

Why not? I mean, that's the one day next week. These folks stole the whole country. What you're talking about? You're right. They stole our own nations. I can't tell you how much they steal it. Yeah.

Folks stealing every day, man. Yeah. Especially in that type of structure, though. I think that, you know, the reality is whether they are stealing in a form of breaking the law or whether they are, using the law to take resources from our community and not putting it back.

That's the way they do it. That's the way they do it. They know how to word that shit. They call it reallocating resources. Misappropriate funds. Well, reappropriations. Yeah, reappropriation. Reappropriate.

Because miss mean bad. Read mean, we just did it again. If you look at, Republicans will tell you that they're going to cut education and somehow you're going to be smarter. Right. Right. That's like pissing on my leg

telling me it's right now you it's never gonna work in Louisiana we spend $11,000 a year to educate a kid in 19,000 a year to put somebody in jail so what which one do we really care more about shit them criminals coming out smart than a motherfucker they coming out with nothing yeah you know well they know it's college for criminals they go in there and learn more crime but for those who go into that and get that out of it how many of our brothers and sisters actually come out with college degrees out of those programs not enough Oh, I'm not even talking about no real.

Like you said earlier. About 2%. You just go keep that number. Yeah, yeah, I fucked with that number. J-O-N, how you feeling over there? I think it's the perfect time to tell everybody. Hey, welcome back to the 85 South Show. Yeah.

Yeah. We ain't here, we're getting real astronomical with it today. We're politically correct and incorrect at the same time. We make it moves for the legislation. Oh man, not the, not the legislative branch. Yes, the executive branch. Not the executive. Come on, man.

Come on, man. Come on, man. We might take this shit all the way to the state. Oh, man. We might take this shit to the federal level. They might have to call in the Supreme Court. Just to review the information that we're putting on this one today. Well, I've been told economists they've been wrong.

Somebody get Margaret Thatcher on the phone. The GDP. The GDP. Come on, where is Maxine Waters right now? Do you know the median age of Black America is 32? Say what? The median age of Black America is 32. It's 32?

32. Which means that the greatest impact that could be made in the voting booth could be made by young black people. That's a secret source. So you already getting in there. I ain't even told them who you are yet. Do the rest. Just look.

No. Do the rest. I'm Gary Chambers and I'm running for the U.S. Senate in Louisiana. There, go right now. You see how I set that up? The U.S. Senate. You see that?

Louisiana, you might recognize them from such political ads as. Do the polls from the ad, smoking the blunt. This is about you, Gary. I think this is it. Right. His whole ad, if you didn't see it, go see it. Go watch it now, man.

Smoking a fat-ass blunt. That's when he got my vote. I don't even live. But didn't the shit he's saying on top of smoking the blood? Even more real. Every 37 seconds somebody's incarcerated for the use of cannabis in this country. Come on. Damn.

While people make billions of dollars in profit of it. Colorado has the fourth-rank education system in the country. They spend hundreds of millions of dollars a year in tax dollars from cannabis to educate their children. Louisiana has the 46th ranked education system in the country. The most incarcerated place in the country. The 47th-ranked opportunity. opportunity. We rank 50 in crime because we rank 47 in opportunity and we're jailing people. So if you have more people incarcerated than anywhere else in the country, right? And your

policies and your laws are stricter than anywhere else in the country, then clearly locking Negroes up and putting laws that are stricter not going to make our community safer because we live in the most murderous state in America. Right. You can talk about Chicago all you want to. Come to New Orleans. Shit. Like real life, there are consequences that happened from the policies of the people who lead us that leave our communities in disarray. When you look at New Orleans today, there was a documentary that just came out a brother drop called Katrina Babies, right? I think everybody should watch that to look at the condition of New Orleans because what you look in at is the

people who are 18 to 25 they're Katrina babies. There are people who went through Katrina, their whole world was destroyed, nobody ever asked them how they were doing, and then we put them back in the city with limited resources and a fucked up school system. Even less than it was before, yeah. With no stability emotionally, no stability financially and no community stability for them. And then we are looking at

the end result of that today of the neglect that we've done over the last 15 to 17 years since Katrina. And now when you see that New Orleans has become the murder capital of the country, right? Well, how we got here? And then Republicans love to say, oh, it's the mayor of New Orleans or the leadership in New Orleans.

Well, damn, you take credit for everything good in all the peaceful cities where they've got Republican leaders. Right. Right. But it's your money and your policies that impact what happens in those cities. Because the mayor of a city still has to abide by the rules of the state. Right? And if the state is ran by a Republican governor or Republican legislature in our party, we've got a Democrat governor. Well, he kind of Democrat.

But Simicrat. Yeah, something like that. I like that. Nonetheless, if you look at the impact that that has, it leaves our communities in disarray and we never hold them accountable. Republicans sit and talk all of this trash

about making our community safer. The worst ranked states in the country are all ran by Republicans. Seven out of the 10 worst state-rate states in the country are ran by Republicans. seven out of ten of the top ranked states are ran by Democrats. Now, I ain't captain for Democrats because they got issues, too. But what I'm saying is, facts are facts.

Facts are facts. Right? And the math ain't madden when it's talking about the return on investment for us and our communities. And I think that the culture is missing it because Beyonce can't loan $2.5 billion to the state of Louisiana for a new bridge. do that anyway. Listen, no. But a white man named Jim Bernhardt can. And he is in negotiations

with the state of Louisiana to loan the state $2.1 billion to build the bridge. Just a random white man. A billionaire in the state Louisiana. Now, watch this, though. On a loan with an interest rate that will be paying his family when he's dead because he in his 70s.

And that interest rate. Let's talk about another contract, right? Louisiana state. university has a cooling system that got replaced that's getting replaced the contract was given to a company owned by this man right to replace the cooling systems at the university then the university pays him for however many years for maintaining the cooling system at the university we're talking about real money this stuff we're talking about with uh hip hop and entertainment that's cool that that that's one level of wealth but we're not even tapping into the level of wealth that we could be tapping to as a people.

Give us the game. And when we talk about how we want to build wealth for real, if you exclude the political process, you are never going to build a real black ecosystem. Right. Right. Like when we talk about, I love what Wall Street Trapp is doing. I love what all of these brothers that are talking about investing and doing. Aren't your leisure?

The second component of that is the political process. You're looking at right night, right here in Atlanta, right? We're talking about folks that are upset about the folks that are locked up with the situation with uh come on uh slime uh young thugs yassel everybody's upset about uh what's happening in that situation right who appoints federal prosecutors u.s senators the president appoints them approved by u.s senators so the people work in the case right not just your local district attorney but the feds that's involved for it to become a rico case right they're appointed by united states approved by United States Senators.

How many of us are having conversations with the United States Senator about what the feds are doing in these cases? I mean, shit, I'm talking to you. And that's happening, not just in Georgia, that's happening in Illinois, it's happening in Louisiana. The most streamed artists on YouTube

is from Baton Rouge. Yeah. Straight up. And they're trying to put RICO cases on all of them. My question is, are you going to make my community safer with that? Or should we be investing our time

and trying to create opportunities that keep us out of this type of street mentality. Now, I do think we have to have conversations about accountability. How many ways can we talk about killing each other in the music? Why is the only music that get spread like that? I'm just saying, like, how many times,

like we crying at every Friday funeral, right? But we continue to play the music that constantly feeds that energy into our system. At some point, we ought to talk about how do we get some hope on the other side of it. And truthfully, as rich as you all, why you still won't kill somebody the last thing I ever want to do is kill another black man big facts like there's two sides to the coin there's a side where the government has to do

his part and there's a side where we as a community have to do our part and we need leaders that are willing to save both sides of that coin yeah i'm gonna go cussing white folks every time they take the money but i'm also ask you to go tell your cousin and stop talking about the same stuff in the music every week because you're making my job harder it's two sides to all it is i wish i could take about 20 of us into a back woman have a conversation because we can change the whole South. Let's do it. We can set that up.

Let's go. That's easy. Who would you want to invite to something like that? I think y'all know better than I on that. Yeah. You know the people who can move the needle in the culture. The question is right now, we've got midterm elections. Leader Abrams is up in Georgia.

Senator Warnock is up here. But there's also people like Mandela Barnes running for the U.S. Senate in Wisconsin. There's Charles Booker running for the U.S. Senate in Kentucky. There's Val Demas running for the U.S. Senate in Florida, right? All of these people, Sherry Beasley in North Carolina, all of them black, right? Question is, for all of the people in hip-hop who have made posts about wanting something to change in the justice system, how many of them made a contribution to any of their campaigns? This is my first time hearing their name.

Yeah. That's important. Yeah. That's important. Outside Georgia, yeah. That's a piece of the pie. You know, and these are the conversations I think that get us to a place of fruit.

It ain't a judge on either side because neither one of us, we all ignorant till we know. What time you woke up this morning? I get about 8.30. What time you woke up this morning? I woke up this morning about 7, right? We all woke up, but we ain't wake up at the same time.

That's the same thing with our people. They're not going to all come to consciousness at the same time. We just got to make sure we put the information out so that they can wake up. That's the number one thing. A lot of us don't know where the information is who these people are.

I think we have to do a better job of making ourselves available on both sides, you know what I'm saying? It is, it's true, it's true. There's been folks who have let our community down. A lot of times people say, Gary Young, wear a suit all the time, where most of the people who came into my community in line, the black folk had a suit and tie on. Stole everything.

So, you know, and when I walk into the neighborhood, I want you to feel like damn, I can talk to him at least, you know, you gotta be relatable to people, you gotta meet people where they are. Right. been seeing a lot of successes, you know, here and there throughout your, you know, you'll rise through the politics and things like that. When did it start making sense for you? I think for me, when I started to see like incremental change, uh, and then talk to like some

of the people who have been in this work a long time. Right. Uh, you understand that every generation of black people have had to kind of pay their dues to this process that we've had to take some shit we didn't want to take, process that, and then navigate forward, but that that little sacrifice ends up with big results in the end. When we changed the chief of police in Baton Rouge, we saw police policies change, I know that there are less people getting their ass with by the Batonish Police Department today than they were when I was a spokesperson for Alton Sterling's family in 2016. That, to me, matters.

That's the stuff that keeps me motivated. Now, is it difficult? There are days where I wake up and I'm like, man, I don't want to do this at all. It is not always rewarding. You see the likes on social media, but you don't see all of the trash people talk, all of the things that we have to do to be conscious of safety in a way that other folks don't have to do. Because as many people as you see praising you,

there's just as many people out there who criticize you and feel that you are a threat to what is normal to them. And what's normal to them is detrimental. to people that look like me. Right. I'm a gun owner for a reason. You know, the world is real, and I think that black folk need to recognize

that the Civil War didn't happen because people just got mad one day. It's because there was a continuation and a perpetuation of lies and misinformation the same way that we see today that would lead to something like what happened on January 6th. And I think that we need to be consciously aware

that if we don't stand up right now, that there are people who are really working to take us backwards. Well, I know what happened on January the 6th, but for the people who were watching and may not know,

tell them what happened. When all Brian Kemp Cousins went and stormed the Capitol? Yeah. They were down there trip, man. I won't make it personal for you. There you go. Now, I fuck with that

the debate. They were down the trip. Everybody went. Even the people in the wheelchair to disable the handicapped. All of them going. But think about that, though, right? They're going to.

They were there. That's some of my favorite shit. That a new in a wheelchair would be so dedicated to his call. He made a stand. Yeah. That he would get on a bus or call whatever in the wheelchair to get there. And find parking. We can't get Negroes to go down the street to the boat.

His hate was worth more than the hassle. Come on, bro. You're talking, Doug. His hate was worth more than the hassle. I'm telling you, man. You're telling you, man. I said, you're on the wrong. Come on.

I told you. man you just got to meet me out hey set it up you know my motherfuckers be like he in his bag this motherfucker got one of the big santa claus bags he stay off in that man he stay talking that that's crazy though went down there welcome back to the 85 south show we're getting real political today welcome to pretty private with ebonyay the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebeney and every Tuesday, I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced

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You know, I've had this question about, you know, we dropped this, the weed ad, right? Now, I wanted to ask you about that, too. What made you do that? That was very bold. I think for me, one, I smoke, okay? These are things that motherfuckers usually had, though, when they run it for a certain. But because I recognize that we live in a world where clickbait media can dominate stuff,

I'm never going to let nobody else tell my shit on me. Right. So for me, I'm going to let you know I smoke. So if any, at any point, somebody discovers that I smoke marijuana, it's not controversial, I already told you, right? That's number one, for me on a personal level. Two, from an equity standpoint and where we are as a society, when I went to California for the first time and I bought legal weed and came back to Louisiana, I just had holding a perspective about the bondage that people are in as a result of this. and I felt obligated to use my platform to say something about it.

And to me, I think too often in politics, we spend this time trying to be an image of something that we're not. You're going to take me as I am, because whatever way this goes, if somebody come out with something, you're like, oh, hell, we already need to get a garrette smoke, we knew we cuss, what else? You know, that's it. Yeah. Kevin Allen.

Kevin Allen is in Angola Penitentiary right now for less than a gram of cannabis, for a life sentence. People are in a cage right now with tax dollars paying for them. The real hypocrisy is the state of Louisiana grows cannabis at Louisiana State University and Southern University with my tax dollars and sells it in the medical market, right?

They do the same shit at all. While jailing people for the exact same thing that you're doing with my tax dollars. Right. Hold on, you want to go one more level? Go ahead with it. You can buy stocks in these weed covers. legally make money from this shit on the stock market and people still send in prison. And go to jail for it.

That's correct. It ain't got shit to do with the law though. And 70%- That's just slavery. It is. What you mean? The prison system, that's the whole slavery shit. So it ain't about fucking how you got there.

They just want you to get there. Right. Just gotta let that shit sit for a minute. I'm telling you, man. man, better wake up to this shit. So your shit was a smoking shit, but what your opponent, what, what your opponent said, man? No, one thing you ain't never gonna see

associated with me is crack. Okay. Damn, I was just about to tell you this. It's not gonna be my chance. I was just about to tell you to go find some crack heads and be like, what are you gonna do if people start calling you with their problem? Man, go somewhere with that shit, man.

Don't call me, call me. I got my own crap. Hey, don't call me. with no police ass shit, man. Now that'll be an ad. On straight, I ain't got no problem. Hey, my name Luther, and I approve that man. Hello.

Hello. Hello. What's your next ad? Can we get the sneak peek on the ad? Well, we drop one today on crime, and we got one next week that we're dropping on Columbus Day. Okay. That is kind of like a Jordan Peel vibe.

vibe where we tell the truth about Christopher Columbus with a kid. We have a kid actor who is from Atlanta, actually, who is playing the role of the kid in I have for us. And it's really to address what I feel is a myth. They keep talking about this critical race theory. One, they don't teach critical race theory in any public schools in America. That's a college course or a law school course. Two, they're using it as a way

to take accurate history out of history books so that people don't know the horrors that some white ancestors did to black and brown and indigenous people in this country. They're fucking up because they don't want us to start telling the story. Any time you start taking books out of schools, you really, like, you're in a bad place as a society.

Right. You know, like we should not want to limit people's access to information. We should want to increase the information that you can digest so that. that we don't repeat the mistakes of the past. The only way that we understand, oh, people locked people up and did these things. Now, I don't make it seem like, you know,

black enslaved, our ancestors who were enslaved were joyous about being slaves. Like the kids was playing with each other on the playing. That's what they're trying to tell the kids in school. You know, and if they were playing with each other, your damn show wasn't happy to be playing with them. Right.

You know, and there was something fucked up playing too. I don't want to play with you. It's like your mama take you to the name. Don't pick up that state, nigger. She worked for a house, you know. Bring it to me. You know, you go with your mom and she goes to the lady. She worked for houses.

You got to go play with this kid. That is nothing like you. Nah, I don't want to play with that kid. I don't know. Damn. They don't like the, you know, they ain't know them pictures was going to be around that long. They didn't care that them pictures was going to be around that law. That's what I'm saying.

Now they're family coming out like my grandmother, but she didn't mean to throw the brick at Martin Luther. Like, you know, motherfucker, he spit on the little girl. He was 38 years old because he didn't want to go into the school. go on to the school. A broke clock can be right twice a day. Yeah. Okay, yeah. Telling me that your grandpa was good to you and he was a good man, he was still a broke clock.

Yeah. He just was right twice a day. Yeah, yeah. As it, because you treat your family good, don't tell me nothing. The Bible tells me how you treat your neighbor. Do you treat your neighbor as you treat yourself, right? And the reality is, based on the policies

that people vote for, you don't. Don't treat your neighbor as you treat yourself. Matter of fact, you steal from your neighbor on a regular basis. To make your nice parks and community look good while you built the ghetto and then told us to fix it. Who built the projects?

There weren't no black folk. We didn't fund that. I'm sure if black people were a part of the conversation of building public housing in the 60s and 70s, if we didn't look like it looked. They weren't. Because we would have laid that shit.

it out. We were certainly have given ourselves some money. We're gonna, no. No, what? No, baby. Listen, thousand square feet, man. We need four dollars. Big dead. Two steps down to go in the future.

Two step dead. We're gonna live 15 deep in these one bedroom, baby. Don't put no concrete kitchen in there. We need an island. We need to be able to eat and pray for Lord. Stay out of the white folks' business. Y'all want us to stay in there, right? us are staying now, right?

This is what we need. Let's this what we need. Now we need the upstairs for the kids. Hey, everybody got to live off-staff, now. Don't nobody want to live on the ground. We ain't no got, hey, we're on the new ground, now. Y'all said we scared of height. Yeah, we ain't had no say-so in that bullshit.

None. None. They made them shit a little oven box, just little, hey, here, square. They tore my projects down. I was sad about it, too. That's trauma. I think, I think.

I think that we have to really be cognizant of the investments that the government is gonna make in the next 10 to 15 years, because those investments are what are going to be the communities we live in for the next 20 to 30 years. It broke all the communities up. It ain't really a whole lot of black communities left. The question is, are we gonna build a black community again?

That's for us. This is what we gonna do. Fuck building it. We're just gonna wait on the housing market to bump For that shit to pop, then we're just gonna all move and anecdotal each other again, on our own terms. Or we could just keep building black well and get whatever we want.

I ain't in the business of asking for permission. Hell no. I ain't in the business of waiting either. I think that too many of us are too patient in this process. I can accept incremental change because it's change. I can't accept stagnation in doing nothing. I think that too many of our leaders have become complacent because a few of us got out the hood.

I think a few of, most of our leaders was never our leaders to begin with. I felt like they was talking that shit good at first and they got in there and then they start playing that game and was just like, hold on y'all, I'm getting the street. I will say that some of them, some of them may have done that, but I've met a lot of people who had a different process

of ascension, right? None of us can understand what the pressure of being President Obama was, right? Right. The first black anything is always gonna be the most criticized of any of them that's in the position. That's another one of my frustration. We shouldn't still be having the first black people

to be the first black people. We should be on at least our fifth black person on everything. I'm in the position right now. I'm running for the U.S. Senate. There's never been a black man elected to the U.S. Senate in Louisiana. We're the second blackest state in America, 34% black. There's not been a black person elected statewide in Louisiana since 1873.

A man named PBS Pinchback became the first black governor in the business country. PBS Pinchback. PBS Pitchback. That sounds like a marathon on TV. Welcome back to the PBS Pitchback. When they play 700 episodes of Andy Griffin. He is, uh... He was elected to the state senate senate and

in Louisiana. He was the president of the state senate. A black man named Oscar Dunn was the lieutenant governor was the governor went out in a scandal and what was it? I don't remember it was something to deal with the election. It was voter fraud type stuff. And Dunn dies. Oscar Dunn dies. Pinchback becomes a lieutenant governor. And when the governor goes out in the scandal, pinchback becomes the first black governor in the history of the country. He's the governor for like 36 days, and there's not another black governor in the country from 1873 until 1990 when Douglas Wilder was elected the governor of Virginia. There have only been four black governors in the history of this country. If Stacey Abrams is elected governor of Georgia,

she will be the fifth in the history of government. I just said that five is the magic number. We need to be filled. I don't give her fuck what she does at this point. I'm just voting for so she can be fit. That's right. And every other black person is. Georgia should do the same and the same for Raphael Warnock because Raphael Warnock is the 11th black U.S. Senator. We had him on him. Yeah. He is the 11th black U.S. Senator. If I win I will be the 12th. I'm trying to make sure you the 12th.

Whatever I can do. Yeah. Whatever. What you can do is go to chambers for Louisiana.com, make a contribution because if we can raise between $550,000 to $600,000 between nine election day, we have the resources to be able to go on TV, do mail, and get our on the ground, game moving in the way that helps us move to vote in the meaningful way in our state. Our opponent is polling that 51%. You saw his ads saying that if you got a problem, call a crackhead. If you got a problem with the police, if you think that that's a problem, go to the website

and make a contribution. If you ain't got $5, share the video with somebody who does have $5 to give a contribution because the TV ads that you see, the radio ads that you see, the matter of fact, they give us higher prices because we're in politics for TV and radio advertising. We don't pay the regular price that everybody else plays. The shirts that you see, the push cards that you see, every bit of that stuff costs money. And I don't have a bunch of rich white men giving me money

because I say the stuff that supports all of us. They'll give you some. Very few of them. No, but you got to let them know that you are willing to accept their white money on the black bag. You got to get outside of Louisiana. Well, that's why I'm here. No, I know you need money, man.

We, you know. We have had, I will say that we have had a lot of support from all demographics and people, thousands of people, we've had people give to us from 49 of 50 states, and so I'm proud of that. Hopefully after this you get money out of off. What state ain't gave you no pay for yet? What money was in? North Dakota, something like that.

Oh, come on North Dakota, okay. Come on North Dakota. One of those states was the only thing that we didn't have a contribution from. Something. Something. Something. And seriously, like, nobody told me,

me that we needed to invest in politics right nobody told me because the reality is somebody paying for your politician the question is who well I don't even know who paying for that shit I just know I'm black and everybody who then been elected and made it harder for me progressing not everybody don't throw everybody under the bus shit I've been out here only the golden years for being black was from 99 to 2003 that's me telling you that because you don't remember like right around 08 that was when the first shit happened the Enron and all that shit the first time the white

people stole America I was out here I remember right before that shit happened they was giving niggins cars and houses niggas had three four houses just out there living everybody had a hummer yeah he's moving out to the suburb black people ain't did that well sense I think that's a real thing that we should discuss too like black folk moving to the suburbs that's how the hood got but see that's why that's how shit happened once they let everybody get them houses and then motherfuckers couldn't afford them then the people who could afford them was like shit we never had five-bed rooms we moved out of who's moving in now they can have it right they're taking the houses that we didn't want yeah they're putting

a hundred thousand dollars into them and then they selling them 500,000 right the truth is that we had gold mines that we let go. Mama house was a good house. It was a good house. We should have paid the taxes. Right? We should have cleared the title so that one of us could have the clear title on the house so we could have succession and pass down property.

These conversations we need to have as black folk. If your mom, your grandmama right now ain't got no wheel and she got a house, get grandma my will. Right? We had a flood in 2016. Get some life insurance too. Life and shit. We had a flood in 2016 and one of the leading philanthropists in our state called me and

said, what are black people going to struggle with in this flood situation? I said, they're going to struggle with being able to get access to the federal resources that are passed down because they don't have a clear access to the title and the property owner of the house. So if you don't have a clear person that owns the house, when the feds are sending you money to fix your flood at home, they can't send you the money because you don't own the house. Right? Don't know one of us owned the house because three of us owned, three of us got left the house

and we don't talk to each other. We're mad and we cussing each other out. fell out about the house, right? That did nobody want to live in? Well, fuck, you stay there. You can't live here, Lisa, fuck that bullshit! So to avoid that, you put the wheel in place, so when you Negroes get married at each other,

it's already on paper. Right. It's already fixed. Yeah. You know, fix all the argument and cussing and fussing. We know you're gonna get mad, mama ain't leave you what you wanted her to leave you. You weren't good to it when you were living.

Don't front. You know what, don't man. Right. Don't make some friend. They robbed us of a lot of information. and that's one thing I can't say now. I'm going to push you on that. They ain't rob us.

We ain't read. I'm straight up. Nobody told. Well, we couldn't go to the library for a long time. Well, our generation has no excuse not to have information. None. I went to my first city council meeting. I was eager when I got there, but I read the agenda like anybody else.

And once I read the agenda, I read the next agenda. And I started understanding how this money thing works. I think that all of us, every one of us should just take time, even if you don't go to a city council meeting, just pull up your local city council meeting one day and just watch and listen to the conversation that the people are having about your community. And if you listen to one of them conversations,

you will, I promise you you will get more involved because you're not going to agree with what you are hearing. I know that because when I sit and talk to people who are in our age group, we think generally are in the same, We might have some nuances and differences, but generally the majority of young people believe cannabis should be legal. Right? The majority of young people believe that healthcare should be universal. Everybody should be able to go to the doctor.

The majority of young people believe that you should not have to pay to go to college. Right? That if it's a state institution, I should be able to get a college education. The majority of the young people believe that, right? Why in the hell don't you show up and go just press a button to say, this what I believe? that's that's what voting is going and showing a press in the button say this person believes in that i'm sending them to go speak for me whether you are a city council member a state representative a state senator or a congressperson that is in essence what you are voting for and those people

vote to appoint a lot of people who make a whole lot of decisions library boards you ever figure out how a library end up in your neighborhood or not there's a library board in most communities. How the fuck you get on the library board? How you get on the library board? The city council. So your city council member usually appoints your library board. Your library board takes tax dollars out of your property taxes

to pay for the library system. Clayton, let's go down the city hall and just get on a bunch of boards. Man, I can't wait. So who? Do you have to be there every day? No, you meet once a month. Oh yeah. You might have two meetings a month.

Oh, yeah. Now you don't get paid. It's not a pay for this. Oh, no. We're taking money under the table. We're not you, we're not you, we're not you. We're getting in this shit for all the wrong reasons. I might, I might get over there with the Republicans.

I don't know, they balling, they balling. They balling. They balling, fuck all this community. They're rocking here, take from the rich to give to the folks. Shit, I'm going over there to get rich, writ the rich and play fuck everybody else like they do it. What if that's the one condition that they got? Look, we're gonna put you on to this money

but you can't help nobody. No, I, no exception. I'm sure that's happening. Probably what it is. It probably what it is. I'm sure that is happening. I think that's probably what happened too, though. Man, they get over there and get the doing evil shit

and the shit feel good, man. They just probably feel good to fuck people over to them. I think what really happens is people get trapped. Yeah. I think that, that I always talk about a, and I probably shouldn't say this, but I'm gonna say it. Okay, hold up. I gotta ask you this.

Go ahead. Because you might say some shit. I ain't want you to say that. I feel like you, I don't know. I promise. Go ahead. A $60,000 Negro. That ain't enough.

Listen, I'm gonna break it down. Negroes cost way more than that, though. Listen to what I'm telling you. Somebody who makes $60,000 a year in Baton Rouge is just between the median income of a black Baton Rouge and the median income of White Baton Rouge. White Baton Rouge median income is $8,000. income is 84,000 a year, black median income is 42, right?

If I make 60,000, I'm right in the middle. I don't want to go back to the hood, and I'm trying to get to where they're at. So when I'm in this position, and the question comes, am I going to speak up on this black issue? Well, my baby had a good school. I live in a nice neighborhood, and if I say that, the man on the job might get mad.

Now, I understand the frustration and the situation. but the question is are you going to be bound to that for the rest of your life? Because don't call me then when it's your son on the side of the road with the police in the middle of the night

and the last time the dude was at the store selling CDs you were saying I was doing too much when I was out there for him but you don't know I was out there for a 16 year old kid named Jacoby Davis three months before and if we had dealt with the cops

who was on Jacoby Davis Alton Sterler would have never got killed because the same cop who punched Jacoby Davis in the back of the head at Earth Day in April shot Alton Sterler July 5th, 2016 at the Triple S Grocer Store. I wrote columns on both of them.

So you can say I'm the crazy man howling in the wind all you want to. The truth is the truth. And $60,000 black folk who are more concerned about their salad, and that neighborhood create a problem for us as a people because we need all of us to use our platforms in whichever way we can to say,

nah, that's a bull. It's that simple. All of us gotta be a little uncomfortable. You don't get to say you don't care about politics. Politics get in your business every day. Yeah. You're tired of being over-policing your community. Did you vote? Don't get on the internet talking

all that trash to me about protesting and being mad when the police whip your ass and you don't vote? Don't call me. Call a crackhead. Call somebody, don't call me. Now, what if that was our disposition? What if that was the disposition of the advocacy in our community?

It's not. We're going to show up for whoever call us, whatever the situation is. I've been fighting for a brother named Ronald Green. I never met that man. State police in Louisiana killed him on the side of the road. He hid the video for two years. I stood on the steps of the state capitol and told the governor,

they say you was a good white man, John Bell, be a good white man. See, you can't be saying that type of shit. Yes, you can. John Bell, next campaign. You know why I can say that? John Bell, being a good white man. Let me tell you why you can say that.

Because black people make up 34% of the state of Louisiana, and when that white man was elected, black people was 450,000 of the 700,000 votes he got. And you owe us something. And what you owe us is justice. I'm a math person and God we trust everybody else bring data

black people are 900,000 registered voters in Louisiana 1.2 million eligible voters John Kennedy, the crackhead candidate had 536,000 votes to win

it's 900,000 black people in Louisiana 900,000 registered black voters 1.2 million eligible black voters 536,000 votes is what he won with mess you up again, 30 days before that,

and I'm high while I'm telling you this, 30 days before that, okay? Hillary Clinton got 580,000 black votes, right? But 30 days later, this man wins with 536,000 votes because 28% of black voters in New Orleans showed up, 32% of black voters in Baton Rouge, and 28% of black voters in Treeport showed up.

If just the black people that showed up 30 days before that showed up again, John Kennedy would not be the U.S. Senator to talk about crackies today. So you're saying if black people just went out and voted like hell, just one good time. We sent him home. I'm saying like it'll fuck the whole shit up. So like the next time

it's election, all the black people sure. If November the 8th. Okay. In every state that black people have a voting power block, we show up in masses, we will flip the whole scale. Worldwide. All over this country. You can

go. That's the type of shit. That need to be seen. No, seriously. You can elect. We've had 11 black U.S. senators in the history of the country, right? If black people show up, you can elect Mandela Barnes in Wisconsin, Val Demis in Florida, Charles Booker in Kentucky, Sherry Beasley in North Carolina, and me in Louisiana. Man, you got to put five new black U.S. senators in the U.S. Senate.

It ain't never been that minute at the same. They have never been more than three at the same time. Okay. This is the type of shit black people need to hear. There's never been more than three. There's never been more than three. With all of them people you named, they need to come down here too. We can do it.

It's nothing. I could give you Charles Booker number before we leave. Okay, bet. It's nothing. Charles Booker is doable if black folks show up. Mandela Barnes is already the lieutenant governor of Wisconsin, so he's already been elected statewide. statewide, the question is, is Milwaukee gonna show up in masses?

Right? How did Joe Biden become the president? Because he was chilling with Obama, and we thought he was good white folks like you said. Because on election night, we was waiting for black cities to show up. We was waiting for the votes in Philadelphia for Pennsylvania. We was waiting for the votes in Atlanta for Georgia, right? We was waiting for Phoenix in Arizona. That's brown people.

Okay? Yeah. Right? In every state that Joe Biden made, made a flip, it was black votes that they was waiting on. Right. Every one of them. When Leader Abrams didn't win in her last election,

I wasn't looking for white women. You know what I said? I was looking for where were the 40,000 votes of black folk in Fultland, DeKalb County. You know what I said when she lost? What you said? They stole it from them. They did steal it now.

We got to, we gotta throw that out there. We can't let them get away with this shit. Let me tell you what I appreciate about. You got to make it unstealed. Let me take what I appreciate about Leader Abrams, that she understands that they cheated. And now she say to hell with it, I'm going to run up the scope. Because when somebody cheats on you in the game, right, they can't beat you. The way that you win is running the score up so that no matter what the refs do, they can't beat you.

Right. So Leader Abrams said, all right, you SOB stole it from me, I'm going to register 800,000 voters. Yeah. election shows up and you think, oh, you stole 100,000, 200,000, I got 800,000 steal him. On your ass. Right? I'm on your ass.

I'm on your ass. Stacey Abrams, no lie, is probably one of the most gangster people in politics in America. That's why I hate it so much. That's why you see so much advertising attacking her. Because when you stole something from me and I said, okay, cool, all right, fuck it, you stole it. I'm gonna go register 800,000. And I'm gonna take two U.S. Senate seats for that one governor's race you stole from me.

That's a badass black woman. Man, why you ain't came on here earlier to talk about shit? I've been trying to get, hey, I've been trying to get here since this summer. No, I'm just saying, bro, you know. I'm trying to get his sister's solid. Who wasn't letting you come through? It wasn't the whole lot. It was a scheduling thing.

Who was the whole up? I ain't blaming nobody. No, I'm just booed. We hit it. We hit it. We hit. We hit. I'm just boo.

Damn, bro. And I ain't, and I ain't never said that publicly because, because, not because I don't support her, but because I think that we just don't have the space to tell the truth a lot of time. Bro, drop, what's the, what can they pull up your columns, man? We have a very, like an audience, wide range. The Roach Collection's down, but if you,

it's down now, but you can go, if you look up the Rouge Collection.com, you can find the stories, or you can go to the Rouge Collection on Facebook, all of the old stories are there. Yeah. I haven't really in a while, though. Yeah, come on, man.

That's your, that's your gift and your power. Well, we, we did that in my. That's how you reach the people. We do ads now, and the weed ad did 30 million people. That's a whole lot more than 40,000 people in that cop. That's what sucks. That's hard. Touch it, man.

He got it. That's real. 30 million. 30 million. And we ain't paid for that. You were just smoking a blood in the swamp. Telling the truth. I don't know if it was a swamp, but it looks.

We is a city park in New Orleans. It looked. Okay. We went to the most legal place in Louisiana. The most legal. New Orleans, we helped pay. You got to get with Pete, man. We do.

Call it. Listen, because you tell- Huh, nigger, what? We voted. You know we had a song last year about Big Frieder. I didn't know that. Big Freedom did a song for us last year.

It turned New Orleans House for us in my congressional race. I missed the congressional race. I'm not here to play with you votes. That'd be crazy. I need to be on the marketing team, though. We know let me vote us. I thought I told it.

I got you vote. Hey man, put that man on slogans, man. Put that man on slogans. All you gotta do is hit us in the afternoon after we just smoked a few bloods, man. That'd be crazy, bro. You had a whole Louisiana on the politics, even street niggins.

So I'm fin to go down here with my little ya, fend to vote, you're all right me. Get he folks my opinion, you're right? The slides we said, tell your mama to vote, tell your little you had to vote. tell your side piece to vote uh no was it uh your sneaky link tell your sneaky link to vote uh it kind of moved around for us too we we go straight to the culture though and you see there rum me down here so i can vote real fast yeah

gonna go over here and make voting make and after i make voting i'm gonna get back with you heard me because i'm supposed to be in the studio with tess i got megros i got make Yeah, Ted's gonna sign me to cash money. So I'm gonna go over here and make a move. Then I'm gonna make voting. Stop by giving me a pole boy. Gotta be hard. You can do.

Fuck it, man, I'm just saying. I didn't know, though, if black people all went to just voted all at once, they'd have to fuck everything up. And it messed the whole system up. Damn. It was shocked the system in a way that I don't think black people done since Reconstruction. That'd be hard.

What if we just woke up one day and they was reading the results and motherfuckers won, we ain't even know like black people just took shit too far. Aretha Franklin? Wait a minute, who put her name down all them time? You saw what they said about her? Shit. What's all they said?

The FBI was investigating her all those years for supporting black activists. For real? Now, you know, this is another thing. All right, man, don't fuck this up with me. I've been doing comments. 17 years. Now, if I support you and they start investigating me, you're going to be mad as hell. Well, let's be honest, okay?

No, for the golden. All right? If in any way you are massively influential with the culture, somebody is watching you. But that's the thing, bro, we just... It's the degree to which they watching you. You know what we are? We are what you call provocateurs of information. Shut up. Yeah, we just provide information. Yeah, we're provocateur. We provide. We provide We provide the information and let people make their own decisions. We don't never tell nobody what to do. You know. Hove did that.

So hopefully you don't got to go through that. There's this picture of Malcolm X, Sam Cook, and Muhammad Ali walking out of a hotel in Miami, right? One night in Miami, they may be in. They go in and have a conversation. I don't think we see enough images like that today. and then when we do we criticize the black activists that we do see

with hip hop and entertainment when the truth is Ali and Muhammad Ali I mean Ali and Malcolm X and Sam Cook was home boys right and Sam Cook

and Muhammad Ali were funding the work that was happening to help black folks right and we know that Jay Z and a lot of folks in the industry do do things I think that we should be

challenging all of our artists and all of the people who influence the culture to be putting that same level of influence. If you're not talking to the activists in your network or in your community, you really have a deficit because the change that you could be making happen, you're not really making it happen.

The truth is, you don't need to be a subject. Escape, uh, scapegoat Jones. That's my dog. I was rushing, though. And I had a little smoke in my throat. You, you, you have to have to have, a real pipeline of information and the reality is you don't need to be a subject matter expert. They have subject matter experts. What do they not have in order to do the work? Is it resources?

Is it passing information? Is it connectivity to certain people? Those are the conversations that we should be having. But we got to have a room where we sit in and have that conversation where we're not judging each other on either side, right? It's activists, we should be able to answer the questions about the work that we do and be challenged on that, but the same should be for artists and entertainers of people in the culture. We should be able to have a conversation where we walk in and are able to challenge the things that the culture is doing because we are both impacted by what the other does, whether we realize it or not.

I always argue the back and forth about what we as black people need to do. There's so many point of views on it. I don't think there's no one thing that we need to do. I think that's what I say all the time. I think that we gotta recognize that everybody has their own lane and they all gift and that the value is, let's say you love kids. Well, that ain't my gift, right? And you wanna-

Damn, that's harsh, man. I got one. I love my daughter to death. I'm gonna do everything I can to be a provider for her, but I'm not looking to take care of everybody else's kids. That's not my gift, right? You don't want me any cause. class from teaching chair. For me, this is what I do well. But for those who want to work

with young people and children, we need them. And we need to fund that work. We need to make sure that they got resources for after school programs, tutoring, mentorship, and just stuff for kids to do to stay occupied, right? Okay, so it's going to be people in the community that's going to say, well, what's the hold up? I think the hold up is how many of us have not sat at tables and talked about how we can do it and then actually went out and did it. I ain't looking for like 10 meetings, right? For me, it's really like, here, we all know the problems. Let's sit and I have a conversation, throw some money on the pot and go fix one problem.

After we fix that problem, we go fix another problem. What's three, four things we say that we won't come together and do, and let's do them three, four things. After we do them, we find three, four more things to do. How do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. That's it. One issue at a time.

We cannot fix everything overnight. We can't get here overnight. Right? We did not get into the condition that we are as a people overnight. So if we're going to change the condition of our people, we're going to have to do the work. And the work takes time. That's another thing I think young people got to really embrace. That like, it takes time for these things to happen. You can't get mad, something didn't happen our way.

Somebody lost the election and we say to hell with it. I ain't voting no more. I ain't coming no more because the person I was for didn't win. The system rigged is against us. It is rigged. It is rigged. against us. Let's do something about it. That's real. See, that's why you need more platforms to talk this kind of shit. I do. You do. And that's why we've been trying to get you on here. Yeah, man. I had the backwoods people ready to get them do something.

They campaign in this shit like that. You need this one? Yeah, me need that. Okay, bad. Now this one right here is from Tokyo. This day, uh, Yakimoshi, right? Yacomot. This thing y'all, yeah, I'm telling you, all right. What's that, was there, Yakimae? What y'all got down there in New Orleans? Yeah, Yakimmy.

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The two black estates in America, Mississippi is the blackest state in America, 37% black. What are you trying to tell, motherfuckers, they don't want to hear this. You know, I have this concept of a new black South. I want all black people in all other places to move back to the South so we can take it over. Man, don't let nobody hear this shit. That would be the best movie of the summer. You got to tell it. It's the great migration in reverse.

All black folks in the 1920s, 30s, and 40s, we left the South to go to Detroit, Chicago, New York, L.A., because they had jobs and less racism, right? Black folk getting kids. So insane. Yeah, right, right, right. Because if you look at it, what, Laquine McDonald was in Chicago. Right. Well, I can name somebody in every different city that we went to that dealt with the same things

that we deal with in the South. The question is, how to do that. black people build critical mass. And if we build critical mass, concentration. Concentration. And then you go from two or three black U.S. cylinders to potentially 16. 16 out of 100, when you only need 50 votes to pass something. I'm talking about taking over, Pat.

Man, that'll be hard. I hope that shit happened in my life. Man, if I got a run or so. You know how it happened? Hip-hop. Let's go. If the industry start talking about it, it's over. Yeah, like I said. Hip- Hip-hop influences everything, everything. And that's why we try to use this platform to bring on a variety of people, man, so we can have this information.

You know, all across the board, man, we bring all type of entertainers and people who do a multitude of different things. So we can have the resources and the information. Everybody come through here, drop some jewels, and we just stack them up, you know, Now we just got a whole fucking jewelry store. Crazy. Mississippi, what part? Oxford. Great old place.

Ole Miss, home of the rebels. You know. You got to go. One day you got to go. We get criticized a lot for this. Yeah. You ever ask the question why we never criticize politicians who drink on camera every day? And more people die from drunk driving than they do from smoking weed.

You think we should start, like, ostracizing them? I think we should just play fair. Yeah. And I know a lot of smoking politicians. They just don't smoke publicly. Yeah, they can't. They got an image. They got an image.

A lie. Yeah, D.C. I went out like a few times and like you'll see some political people and they be but I feel like everybody who got like a real like real world job or they have to do serious shit I feel like they get fucked up all the time because work be stressing them out and shit like that for real yeah most of the people that I have encountered that are real smokers are people that got real government jobs and CEOs of corporations and things of that you know it ain't just the hood paying for all this weed and these candy

stores in California right yeah that's real that's the game though man some of the sometimes shit don't even seem real high it's just like you said going out there and then it's weed stores everywhere and the people who live there don't even smoke like that they don't even give a fuck we went to our some grow houses in California and Maryland and my press secretary of Tanisha when we came out of it she said man it's like New Jack City on steroids yeah you know like it was it was to me to watch what we know we've seen our people do for years and get incarcerated for and then these

folks go and profit off of that same thing and by a lot of people still in jail for And you're telling me not to talk about it? No, I'm going to smoke it so we can make it less controversial. Let's stop acting like this so controversial. It's not. Elon Musk was smoking on the little... And he's about to buy Twitter. He worked, yeah, he's about trillion dollars close to it.

He's about to spend $40-something billion to buy Twitter. That's some high-ass shit right there. Niggins was just sitting there. I'm gonna buy Twitter. $1,000 real shit, though. about Twitter. I love that shit. Rubber chain that logo of Ferd.

Make that bitch a big, yeah, yeah, nigga. It's electric, baby, it's me. Elon, fuck you me. Yeah, Twitter, bitch. Might get Facebook too, if they make me mad. This motherfucker gonna change the world. He built a robots and shit. I don't know about that.

I'm with you. I'm telling you, he coming up with that Terminator shit. He's more hype. I ain't, I ain't gonna say it, man. He ain't gonna send the drone to me. Hey man, has he put some stuff together? Yeah, but it's other people doing that stuff,

and the shit he do don't always be for the purpose he'd be doing it for. That's the shit. Let me say what I think is something that we need to be able to accept, that somebody can do something exceptional, right? and still be of no value to us. Wow. Yeah.

Yeah. You fucking right. I knew the game. I can't deny that what he's doing with his companies is exceptional. That shit is exceptional. Is he a value to black America? Black people anywhere? No.

No. But who is? Who is? I think that there are folks who are. We're going to come out with the first black electric cars. They plug it to a regular socket. You know what kind of battery we're going to use?

We're going to put them Nokia phone batteries in that bitch. We're going to have 87 no key of phone batteries bundled together. The car ain't going to go around the car. Shit. That's all you need. You charge that motherfucker every 30 days. They can go around the corner up the street, down the block. Yeah, that's about it.

That's about it. That same car that go through the hood. That's it. It's what the people that know they don't really be going nowhere. Ooh, had a safe driving mode. Do my keys in here mode? Ooh. I don't really even need to be gone that long mode.

Your car just started beeping, like in the long. You got a button on there where you could just make static come back on your phone. Hey, I'm in the car. I hit your back. Shh, shh, shh, shh. How the fuck you got static? The button. That'd be dope.

We're getting our shit together, though. We are. Black people progressing like a motherfucker. I'm proud of us, man. man. To see, if you put it in the perspective, black folk really only been free in America 50 years. Hell yeah. Now talk that shit. My dad is 79. My mom is 76. Both of them were born without the right to vote. The right to go to public schools. They were not segregated. Even in public. They were not. My mom was about to go to college or

or so when they were getting their rights, right? So in my family, I'm the first generation of black people in my family born with all my constitutional rights. You too, though. I'm gonna check, I'm from Mississippi. I know they ain't gave us all our rights at birth. I know that Mississippi just, Mississippi just don't do shit like that.

No, no, don't even tell me, can't vote. Don't break your spirit all the way down. All the way down now. segregation, all that. So you're the first generation of your family born with all your constitutional rights. Yeah. And when you put that in- And they still don't be giving me all the shit they're supposed to give me.

That's what I'm saying. I want to double-check. But when you put that- I'm mad by that small business loan. I need to talk to you off camera. They could have gave me that little money. No, I would just say when you check what? When you check into how we got here, right?

And you look at where we have progressed in that 40-50-year time span, most folk couldn't have done as much as much as you got here. couldn't have done as much as black folk have done since we got off of the plantation or off of the Jim Crow system that exists in America. It's just not going to happen. I dare us that put white folks in the condition that black folk were in in America and see what they produce in 40 years. Wait a minute now. Wait a minute. There's no need to get hostile. I want to tell the truth there, bub. Listen here, buddy. Hey, hey, listen. I'm going to tell the truth, bub. beautiful part about being black man their resiliency.

Yes, sir. You never know, man. This shit might, like you said, at any moment, you never know when we might go and just show up in numbers and just, you know what I'm saying? We might, you know us. Once we get to fucking what some shit is over with. And then I think people gotta twist it too.

I hear people say like, you know, oh, we can't keep blaming stuff on white people or that. And I'm like, man, first of all, people act like, we got, they be like, oh, you gotta do what you gotta do. Nobody complains and not does anything. That's the thing. Like, I don't know where these motherfuckers that you see in, like you, you know what I'm saying?

Like, motherfuckers ain't just sitting back. And we're making away every goddamn day despite all this bullshit. So, like you said, the resiliency is there, but that, I don't know. All we're saying is we won't play by the same rules. Come on, man. And we want you to address the deficits.

Come on. That's it. I'm not asking for anything exceptional. We recognize that there are policies that you have done that have been detrimental to us. If those policies that you have done have been detrimental to us, you owe us policies that weren't to make sure that you undo that wrong. That's all I'm saying. That's it. It's not complicated.

Right. You know, we can put shiny bubbles on top of it. We can do whatever we want to. But at the end of the day, that's what we're saying. Exactly. You know, that if you had policies that said that black people couldn't get these loans, then there ought to be special loans. It's created specifically for black people. Interest free.

If you gave money. As long as I'm alive and I owe you, I'm gonna put something on it. If you gave money, 08% . If you gave money, which tax dollars came out of my pocket to do this for GI bills and all of these things that allow people to go into these communities

and purchase homes on the government, then you owe me the same. The same way they built the ghetto, build us a little suburb like you were talking about earlier. They didn't just build a ghetto. They built the suburbs because they gave them the loans to get the property in. That's what I'm saying.

We don't want to, we do all that, and we're moving out there. Give us our chance. I feel like I could really excel without all this extra racism and shit like that. Might fuck around and create, you know, time travel or some shit with the right resources. You never know.

Shit, nigga might come up with a liquid metal like they put in Wolverine body or something. I can get on some next level. type shit. You do that. What if I find out how to motherfucking transcend through dimensions and shit like that?

Okay, all right. Teleportation is real. Fuck around and end up in serious beat because all they want to see me in is the Milky Way galaxy, but I know it's a billion galaxies and then it's a billion more. You're in the Matrix, huh?

Yeah, and shit like that. I got it. Because I'd be wanting to know too. He in the Matrix, y'all. Yeah, shit, anything possible, if we can live on a fucking big ass rock that's floating through out of space, we could do all kinds of shit.

Don't tell me that I'm just a nigger. I am the aliens that they tell you about, nigger. Think about it. At some point, everybody lived in a dick. It's the fuck they did. He lived in the sack. Everybody lived in the nigger. He lived in the sack.

That's poor. What of the dick. You didn't get to the dick till it was really time to go. Everybody in his motherfucking came in. If you was in the dick, you was on deck. You was about to get in the game. How do you think you made?

Do you know the chances of you becoming a human, nigga? So you think all the, so you think all the sperm just hang out in the dick already, like, man, I'm just gonna be ready when he get rid. Nigger, you could have. They right there about, oh, hey man, I was here first. Nigger, think about it. You could have been feet.

You could have been skin, nigga. You could have been the part. the part of the sperm that wasn't the human. Yeah, you don't think about this shit. This shit is amazing, briff. How did I get here? We had now, now we have. You was had talking about the political shit.

I get had to talk about hypothetical shit. Because what are the chances of me being able to speak? They can Google that. All right. I'm just saying. Shit is strange when you think about it. Think about that. He's talking about traveling through dementia.

Hey, you remember those crackheads? I was telling you about. Garrett Chambers is hanging out with him. It smokes dope with him. Oh, boy. Oh, wow. Hell yeah, man. Keep doing your thing, man.

Disrupt the justice or whatever it is. I want to see you make it, man. Get some justice. Disrupt, you know, the system that's already in place. You got some great ideas and you got great energy. And you seem to be very knowledgeable on the subjects that you're approaching. Now, keep sharing the knowledge, you know, with the community.

Keep us in the loop. Take advantage of all of these platforms, man. You know exactly what we located at. Anytime you hear some groundbreaking information like the shit you were saying today, bring that back. We will. Bring that back.

You heard of mine. Yeah. Yeah. Call, have the press secretary hit me. We got some breaking news. We gotta get back in there. God damn it, Mom, I'm asleep. What is it?

I want you to show up and be like, I got the files. Throw the shit on the table, just what they've been doing all these years. Now look, I got some shit that go all the back to 84. All I can find was up to 84. Look at this. I didn't want to tell you about the earlier.

Man, where you get this bitch in? Is that Martin Luther King with a jerker? Where did you find this? Yeah, man. No, I only knew you from the commercial, but glad to meet you and your platform is even, you know, it's even dope. Even what you were saying in the commercial I fucked with,

but to have you here and express all your shit, hey man, we're pulling for you. I appreciate it. I appreciate that. I can't go down there and vote for you because then that'd be a whole other commercial. No doubt. You drove a bus to crackheads down here to vote for them.

You have the influence over a whole lot of people in our community that tune in to y'all that I hope here's something in this conversation that motivates them to be a part of the process. And wherever you are in this country, that if you're part of the communities that we name, that you show up for the people that we name. Can you name them one more time? Val Denner's in Florida.

So that means if you're in Dade County or Duval County, Orlando or any of those places, you need to be showing up for Val Demons, November the 8th. San Marco Rubio Holmes. Sherry Beasley in North Carolina, Mandela Barnes and Wisconsin, Charles Booker in Kentucky, all running for the U.S. Senate as well as myself in Louisiana.

And you've got to show up for Leader Abrams here in Georgia and Raphael Warnock here in Georgia. Come on. Let's go. Let's go. Hell yeah. What's your website again? Chambers for Louisiana.com.

All right. Y'all gonna legalize the week. I think we're not far from it. 70% of people in Louisiana think that we should have recreation. All that farming down there. I mean, when we drive through the state going to different places, we talk about it all the time because I went to the largest, one of the largest grows in California.

And I'm talking about acres of cannabis. Right. And everybody in there got health insurance. Everybody in there making over $15 an hour. Right. Everybody in there is feeding their family, right? That's important, right? I would love you.

And we know that there's medicinal benefits. The other thing I think that when we descheduled from the federal level, that opens up a lot of research to happen at the university level that's not happening. And there's all kinds of things that I think we're going to be able to unlock when we get into that research. They're not even testing the right weed. No doubt. But they need to let the shit grow down there, bro. Can you imagine some of that damn Louisiana swamp weed?

Let the voodoo lady then preyed over. Man, I don't put the voodoo lady in it, man. No, no. Shit. It's that spicy weed right here. Spice. It's spicy. It's like pine sauce.

Yeah, hell yeah. This is that Louisiana. There's three different kinds of weed on here, little yellow, green, and purple, all together. They grow it together. Well, they put the ceded in this. What? They put the little cage to do.

put the little cage of seasoning on the weed. I think we're gonna produce some of the best in the country. I already know that. I believe. I believe in Louisiana. You're gonna have a whole heap of investors from the industry

to come down and buy up a lot of that land and make it happen, right? Right. Yeah. The crazy card is they already got some down there. They ain't gonna have to start. Oh, I know.

I know. They got folks that getting into the hemp side of it now so that whenever the cannabis decide it's fully legal or they're growing CBD right now so that when there's full scale is legal that they can just convert their licenses over okay right we got to do like we got buy a bunch of acres and then just let the motherfucker piece it together then then you get a little I'm gonna tell y'all p one of the coldest to ever do it on buying land in Louisiana uh peeve bought land in bad so much land in bad ruse that

one of the pieces of property that P bought that the state put money in his pocket off that. Like the man was a master at just putting himself in a position to say, I'm going to own some stuff, I'm going to hold it, and somebody going to give me some money for it at some point. He mastered that. Master. Master. You know.

I'm pushing Pee. You better master Pee. Come on, man. No doubt. Master Pee. No doubt. That's one of my biggest influences, too. I got a list of down south ghetto legends that, you know, that's why we named the tour ghetto legends, man. P, the things, the things that Louisiana has done to influence the world of music, you know, when you think about it, you can go back to Fats Domino, you know, Louis Armstrong, and then you roll that up to people, John Battise, P.J. Morton, the, you can't go nowhere in,

Black America. Wenton Marseis. And you buss out that for the 992,000. And the whole energy in the home change, no matter what part of the country you are in. You don't get that without Louisiana. All I'm saying is that as good as the music is and the food is, that we can have communities that are as strong and as vibrant as that energy is if you put a different type of leader in place. Right.

That's it. We got the sauce. There you go right there. You heard. Any questions in the room? Black people? Any questions from the black community? I knew you had one.

I think one, elected officials have to do a better job engaging in the community directly. I think once people get elected a lot of times they get so busy doing the job that a lot of times they're not doing the intentional engagement. When you campaign and you come sit down and have these conversations, right? You should come back and have these conversations when you are in office so that people know what's going on. Because the same way you want to get them to get them engaged to vote, You got to go into those same channels in order to keep them engaged.

You got to meet people where they are. That's just, that's just it. But what if a motherfucker start off as a community activist, they come on here and they'd be like, that's right. We got to get people out here. We got to get them, phone. And then the nigga win it.

And then he'd come back and be rich as fuck. We're like, boy, you're getting that money, man. Watch you out, man. Go ahead. Well, you should. Them send it checks, it's different. We should want to see our people progress. Oh, most definitely.

We should want to see that the people that go out there and make the sacrifice for us eventually see a reward from their sacrifice. Most definitely. The truth is, too, they died without any fruit. Right. You know, think of all that we have inherited from the sacrifice of Dr. King and Malcolm X, right?

Hell yeah. And both of them to rob their lives and their children didn't have them to be their providers all of their lives. Man, I just wish you would have lived long enough to pull up somewhere in a phantom. Indeed. The truth for us has to be that we don't want that to be the outcome for our leaders. The reason that so many of our people end up in a situation

where they're doing something that is questionable is because we have not secured enough to make sure that people are stable while they go out there and do this work for us. On the other side, them folks, they got their bread when they're in there. So, no, they're not taking no money out to cookie jar because they are breaded up. They're secured so they can go down there and vote for you on a conscious level because they're not starving. Right. Right. We said, people in the battle start. Right. And you're not yourself when you're on.

And then somebody else bring food to them and they eat. And we're mad at them. But we ain't feed them. Right? Like that's really what this is. And that has to be a continual conversation for us that we recognize that it's our obligation to take care of our soldiers.

That's real. Because it is. And the government has done a good job putting the strongest of our soldiers in jail. All right. It ain't mythical that they put so many black men in jail, right? These dudes can be running corporations and businesses. If you can run an illegal trap business under the nose of the federal government or the local police,

you can certainly run a legitimate business, right? You just have to be resourced enough. I knew a guy in Baton, white guy, bought a company, but when he started the company, he called his grandmother. He said, I need a loan to go start the business. Grandmama gave him $500,000. He went to the bank. Damn, Grandma. Grandmama had $500,000.

She gave him $500,000. He went to the bank, got a $5 million loan. All right? He needed a certain type of equipment for his business. He went out and bought that type of equipment for his business. Let's say this was eight years ago, okay? And the beginning of this year, he sold that business for an, an unreported amount of money

to the largest company of its kind in the world started with a $500,000 loan from Grandma. Right? Most of us can't go to Grandmama and get $5,000 to start their business.

You did? Grandma had $5 now. We got damn, man. Grandma pressed that little five in your palm, man. Don't do Grandma like that. What you process? that we're not playing with the same deck of cards. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Like when he said, oh, I just got a little loan from my grandma. You know, my mama, when I started a business, my mama bought me a computer. That's real talk. My mama got, I started my first business. I was getting into it. My mom bought me a desktop computer so I could do my work on it because that's what my mama could afford to help me with in my business.

And any little thing I've done, my mama made that little contribution to what I'm doing. You know, my dad, the same thing. But the level of contribution that my phone can make ain't the same. My mom and daddy don't have 10 friends who own multi-million dollar companies that could call the other 10 friends for my first campaign fundraiser and raise $500,000 for me. But I've seen that happen. I've seen people walk in the door for their campaign fundraisers

and raise $300,000 in one fundraiser. We're not playing with the same deck of cards. I got to get mine $25 at a time. And I'm cool with it, because I'm free. Well, folks, there you have it. This has been another 85 South show exclusive. And get your ass up and do something. Gary Chambers.

Yeah. It's your first time in the trap. Don't let it be your last. Shout night, brother. Clayton English, tell them good night. Man, you know what time it is. Come back, 85 South. Get down.

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