The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - GEORGE WALLACE & MYRA J in the Trap! | 85 South Show Podcast
Episode Date: December 27, 2024Two OG's pull up to the trap! GEORGE WALLACE and MYRA J sit down with Karlous Miller and DC Young Fly for a classic conversation! || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85Sou...thShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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You mean your dad look just like you?
I look like my mom.
Don't push me.
Hey, man, welcome back today to fast.
All right now, OG, you get two votes.
Jay-O-N-WIN.
Man, play me some old school today, man.
Play me some old school record.
You got some old school?
Come on, man, don't just be wearing a fuzzy half of nothing.
DC, we got the triple OGs in here.
Well, we got triple OG.
The holidays just passed, and we had, you know,
it's some family members left over in Atlanta.
So we had to call around.
Yeah, to call the real.
Now, these people we got on hill today with us,
they hard to book.
I'm talking about for OG now.
Real OG.
Yeah.
I'm talking about
Representative Lanner
all over the world.
Respectfully.
Talk more shit
and everybody up here
combined.
Funny as hell.
Real legend
in the comedy game.
We got none other
than Mr. George Wallace
and Miss.
Oh!
Yeah.
Come on now.
This comedy legendary
right here, man.
I'm glad you said our name.
I thought somebody else.
Now, as you know this,
as you know this,
We didn't even try it.
Right.
They just watched this.
Mm-hmm.
Uh-huh, uh-huh.
Let me, did,
was that our introduction?
That's you.
Now, let me, okay, you said Ms. Meyer-Jay,
but let me say this.
You guys have no idea how happy we are
to be with you young guys.
We've been watching y'all do y'all little bullshit act
and shit like that.
What's your laughing at?
I work with him on the road.
Right.
He's going to kill and stuff.
And it's just good to be with you and see you.
And to see you.
See this operation that my young black people are doing.
See, y'all are young black people.
See, I'm 88 years old tomorrow.
Man, that's.
Oh, man.
Come on, man.
You was 88 last year.
How many times you're going to be 8?
Yeah.
Set your punk ass down.
I'm 88.
88.
And I'm blessed, right?
Yeah, right.
Still making it.
That's amazing.
That's beautiful.
Shit, I'm 16.
I'm sticking with it because my grandkids watch it.
They're right.
Hell yeah.
They're like, uh-uh, she's a liar.
16.
and they ask, well, how can you be saying?
I tell them because
scientists are studying me.
It ain't ever happened before.
I'll talk.
Hell yeah, and I'm going to be 16 again next year.
You're going to be well?
I'm sticking.
If your ass can be 88 again, I can be 16 again.
16?
Yes.
I don't know.
She owes nothing.
You can't even turn that around and be right.
You can't even turn that around and be right.
Damn.
He'd be like, let him talk about he jokes.
Yeah, they're talking much shit, man.
And we would like to apologize, Jen and Brown are not here because he's sick.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, he got the main.
He's been eating too much of that damn hot sauce.
No, he got the mange.
You got the mange.
No.
He got them, you know what the mange is.
Oh, yeah.
That's a man.
That's a man.
That's what he got.
Right, right.
You know, someone's scratching around.
Like, you know, he'd be breastfeeding.
He's still breastfeeding from his mom.
And the milk is.
The milk is taste.
The milk is tasty.
The flavor's a hot salt.
Oh, he's talking about Jay.
Anthony, I thought you talked like a nephew.
Uh-uh.
Oh.
What nephew?
I don't know.
You know, old people just be talking.
You know, Jay, sick.
Yeah, you got the maids.
There's something wrong with you, right?
I'm just agreeing with him.
Damn, Jay Sick.
I ain't getting sick.
You don't even know what you're going to put your foot on my pressure.
I'm sorry.
They didn't change all the rules because we're here.
Right.
I know it would be some distance.
Just relax.
Oh, no.
We're just going to find a minute.
Give me a real.
We are just happy to be here.
You guys are just happy to be here.
We don't even know what to see.
Safe.
We're just young people.
First, I want to say y'all are some icons, man.
You dig what I'm saying?
Like, legends in the game, man.
It's a privilege that I even, I take those moments, especially when I go on the road with the veterans.
You feel what I'm saying?
I like to call y'all, like, seasoned vets.
You know what I'm saying?
I watch y'all.
I don't watch all in movies.
Yeah.
So for me to even be on the same stage to even share it one time, I'd just be so grateful and I'd be thankful.
I'd be like, you know what?
I know this is what God want me to be.
And then I look at longevity.
Yeah.
They don't even be just.
I'd be like, man, they still cross paths with me.
They're still hot.
They still work.
They still fight.
Like, they own it.
So it's like a lot of people don't get a chance to do that.
So it just, it just be an honor.
Well, that's how we feel about working with the young people to go on on this stage and see you out there.
And I'm standing on the side watching everything he does.
And he's just kill it.
And I get pissed off because sometimes he can get more laughs than I do.
I don't like that.
I don't like that.
Oh, he's a stage killer.
I don't like that.
He's the first OG that ever said when I came out of the stage.
He said, God damn it, little motherfucker.
That was in Washington, D.C.
Yeah.
He said, I love it, though.
He said, keep killing.
He said, keep going.
And you know, we don't be getting embraced like that, son.
You know what I'm saying?
That's why I love the journey that God allowed me to be on,
because the vets that I had come across shoulder,
like even with Carlos, he didn't have to come bring me on the road
him or say come on like that's my first question I want to know why the fuck did you ask him to come
out with you on the road now I was on social media right this was that well he was blowing up
everybody wanted to who is this guy yeah one of his very first interviews he did they said
which comedians do you like and he said my name first and I pulled it up on him and we've been
that's so cool brothers there since that's so cool he could say anybody right there but
him to say that we are kind of different we embrace your social media so you y'all
I follow you on social media.
You say some funny shit.
What?
Funny shit.
Good.
Early in the morning.
He'll say some shit like...
Hey, no, you don't.
I'll be up at 6 o'clock in the morning.
He'll say some shit like...
I'll straight up and cut butter with a steak knife and steak with a butter.
I don't give a shit.
That's what I guess his ass don't go to bed.
George up texting us all damn night.
It's like, when do you sleep?
I like to, you do know that shit, don't get it.
I'll pick my teeth with an ice pick and pick ice with a toothpick.
I don't give a shit.
I'll eat cupcakes out of a pan and pancakes out of a cup.
I don't give a shit.
Not right now.
Not right now.
I love that.
And I was in Cleveland one night and I told the people,
I'll drink a half a glass of whole milk and a whole glass of half and half.
I don't give a shit.
A lady way back in the back.
She's, Mr. Wals!
Real loud.
If you drink a half a glass of whole milk and a whole glass of half and a half,
she said you might not give a shit.
But you're going.
But you're going to take one.
And it's good when people are in the only shout out of something.
I don't care who gets to laugh, it doesn't bother me.
I'm no one taking the check home.
Y'all don't get all the laugh if you want.
I just love it.
And just hanging out with you got, just being here.
You don't know how we feel.
I just love to see people keeping black comedy alive.
Yes, ma'am.
That's good, too.
That's the cool thing, because you all know.
We love everybody, but ain't nothing like a black audience.
When black folks love your ass, they're going to let you.
Yeah, they're going to jump up on the aisle.
They're going to slap the table over and just act a damn food.
My favorite one is the name.
thinking they'd get up and run out the club.
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely.
I'll just get to say, we can't sit through and laugh.
We got to move.
We got to grab something.
Sometimes I see the lady grabbing that stuff too, you know,
so that's when you know.
Oh, no, what they grabbed.
Something.
That's when you know your ass good when the lady.
They might be scratching.
That's the laugh I like.
Sometimes I'll see you laugh like out or go into it bust his ass.
He didn't know me now. He and Jay be like, man, you just got to let him do that.
But see, I'm grateful to even have that sense of humor where when the laugh take over, you just got to let it take it course.
Like, don't try to stop it, just.
Then you'd be like, hey.
I love it when they knock shit over on the table, don't even care.
They'd knock their drinks over and flipped a plate of wings.
I got to hit something.
Like, I got to do something.
I got to.
I have to run.
I have to run.
You got to run.
When I was a kid, I used to fall on the floor.
That's me.
Something was wrong with me a long time ago.
I've been honest.
So you've always been off Dallas like that?
You know, I could have to sit over in that chair, but I don't have to sit here.
I drove all, let me tell you something.
I drove all away from Atlanta.
Who, telephone's still on?
That ain't mine.
Shit, let me turn mine off too.
Somebody got my telephone.
My telephone somewhere.
I lost my telephone.
But I brought their house on with them.
You got jokes, huh?
Talk about my phone.
Talking about my phone.
My mama still got a rotary telephone.
For real?
On the wall.
If you're dialing in the 800 number, you can walk over there by the time you finish dialing that damn number.
Let me turn my phone on because I'm talking to the big shots.
Question number one.
He don't know.
No question?
I got a question.
Where year did you start doing comedy both of y'all?
I was going to say I was.
So now I've got to make up another lie and go back.
Marr, you want to go first?
For me, I don't remember.
It was the early 80s that I do know.
But I was voted most humorous female of my senior class.
Oh, go talk.
And back in the day, they were not encouraging black women to go into comedy.
We had to be social workers and school teachers and nurses.
And so that's what I did.
I was a social worker for years until this guy, he took me to the comedy store in Los Angeles.
I had never, ever, ever been to a comedy show.
And I saw like 12 white boys go up, and I looked at him and I said, I can do that.
He's like, no, these are professionals.
I don't care.
I'm telling you, I can do that.
That was on a Saturday night.
I went on stage two nights later.
I love your stuff at the comedy end.
Oh, oh.
Robin Harris.
Robin was my heart.
You just stand up all pissed off talking.
I love that.
Are you, you experienced that?
I watched it.
Oh, that's amazing.
Because you all are young.
See, I started in, I was doing comedy probably 11 years before you were
born. I'll start in
1976. How long is that?
No, he was like
25 then.
See, I'm the old nigga to them.
Is that right? Now I feel good
because you hear it. Yeah, it's good
sometimes being old. You learn a lot of shit.
When we started, by the way, you guys
really haven't made. We don't have three TV
stations. Three, NBC, ABC, and CBS.
And then we had to groom ourselves
for that so we were very clean.
So we're not like you guys are going straight.
Thank God that back when HBO came
Wolf's name in the first show came.
Jeff Jam came on and you guys were able to express yourself.
And I was a Christian comedian for 47 years until last year I started cussing.
No.
Now what made you start cussing though?
He ran out of words.
Do you want to know the truth?
Yeah.
The reason I started cussing was, it may have been a year and a half.
When we were on the phone together, when Will Smith slapped and when Will Smith slapped,
and when Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, that's when I started cussing.
Because I was hurt so badly.
So Chris Rock is like my son in New York.
in New York City, he grew up watching us in the club,
and he just, if he read his e-office,
I just want to be like George Wallace.
That's what he always want to say.
I know his mama, his family, and all like that.
And then at first I thought, like everybody's thought,
that got to be planned.
But when he hit him and they walked off,
I'm going like, we went up on him,
and we start crying, and it was just going,
I was mad, I didn't know what to say.
Because I had done it.
And Will Smith has been my friend for many of here.
I've done his show and everything like that.
But at that time, that preacher gone.
No, he's still.
No, he's in the cat.
He okay?
Yeah, he good.
So I was so mad, I was crying, and all I could do, I said,
fuck Will Smith.
That's when I started cussing, fuck Will Smith.
I was mad, and they were on the phone, I said, I was so mad,
I said, fuck all the smell.
Fuck Will Smith, fuck, his wife, Jane, G. I jay, the Jones, fuck her.
I said, fuck them two little weird-ass kids,
and went on, and weird, I said, fuck all the Smith.
Fuck all of them.
I said, fuck all of his grandmother.
I said, fuck all of him.
Yes.
With that all of them.
Yeah.
Fuck her.
I said, fuck all the apple.
Fuck all the black smell.
Fuck the locks smell.
Mr. Smith goes to Washington, fuck that movie.
Smith's on an instant.
I said, fuck all of Smith.
Did he say, fuck the Smith funny?
I said, fuck all of the Smith.
Emmysmith of the Dallas Cowboys, fuck him.
Stephen A. Smith,
and you fuck him.
And Bubba Smith, fuck her.
And then I did some research, and I found out that
Smith is the number one name in America.
And now if I happen to do that bit, I'll say
it's the number one name in America.
And I say, any Smith's in here, it's all when I just say,
yeah, I said, fuck you too.
So that's what I start cussing.
But I changed it because of a walk-a-flocker play.
I found another word.
So I use walk-a-flocker now instead of fuck.
Waka-flocker?
Oh, yeah.
Waka-n't-n't-ha-flocker.
It ain't cuss-a-flocker.
It's closer now.
Yeah.
You just say to you said, walker-flock.
Waka-flock.
That's how you said.
Because I was at church Sunday.
You ain't nothing but a Waka-Flock.
You're definitely walking.
I'm a church Sunday.
D.C.
You agree to walk-Wark.
D.C. I'm at church Sunday. My bishop walked up in the pulpit, and I said,
look at this. My bishop in the church.
Oh, I thought you were some bitches walked up.
Some bitch.
I said, Joy.
Wallerton letting me fly to think.
He's playing.
He been holding that shit in for 47 years.
I saw my my bitches, George.
All my fish came through.
I'm like, damn, you still alive?
She found you.
Yeah, I'm stupid.
But that's where I started.
And I'm a good cause, too.
I'm going to catch out.
I'm gonna catch it with my cousin.
But you know what?
This is why we're appreciated and the youngsters got to understand
and got to have appreciation and understand the value
of what was done before them.
That's why I, that's the only thing I know for a fact
when it comes to the comedy,
I must respect and understand who did it before me.
Just like you said, but y'all had three TV shows right now.
Station.
Station, yeah.
The three stations to even try to get in.
And Mark, and they went off.
11, right?
Yep, yep.
So you had a certain time limit.
Go off and just shrink into a little dot.
A little dot.
Yep.
Yep.
On TV is over.
We were time to go to bed and shit.
Talk about it.
No.
So think about the limit on top of the restrictions and the limitation.
We got so many DSPs now.
We can get on YouTube, Instagram, TikTok.
We can become a media tonight if we want to.
We got to appreciate what they've done for us in the game.
in the game.
That's what I was going to ask.
Did y'all see it getting to this point where?
No, we had no idea.
Hell, just, what has been 15 years ago, we just got a telephone.
This thing right here is, you know I'm not married, right?
But this is my wife right here.
She can do anything I need done.
Anything I need done, I can put that guy in my hand right now.
This telephone is amazing thing.
When I grew up and we grew up, we had, we couldn't even,
if we wanted to fly somewhere, y'all not going to believe this because y'all were young.
I believe it's because y'all were young.
We went out to the airport, bought a ticket,
went back home, the day we was gonna fly,
and we didn't get a seat until we walked up
to that gate and walked on the plane.
And now you can do all,
and order your food on this thing in your hand right now.
I can buy anything I want all over the world.
I can buy a car, anything I want.
This is the best wife.
You can do anything with that.
So this probably is the greatest invention of all times.
I would think, I don't know what you think.
So just to see times of chance
and especially the elevation,
how was it for you to adjust?
Like, you know what you've done before
and now you see what's about to come before you now.
So it's like, oh, it's easy to adjust,
but you see your other community that's not adjusting.
Mara, well, it is not easy adjusting
because you guys, it's in your blood.
You grew up probably with a computer in your hand.
So as you get older,
as you guys used to make the joke about,
your grandpa can't even operate the video machine back
that you'll make jokes like that.
Well, that's kind of like us in a way.
We can't go to, I can, but I don't do it enough.
I'm just starting today to really get into TikTok a little more.
I want to talk about the shit I bought today.
Because every night I just buy shit on Amazon.
I don't buy no cheap-ass shit on those T-Moo.
Y'all blow a T-U-A-U-U-S-U.
That's for young people.
You ever buy that shit on T-Moo?
No, my aunt did you do T-M-U.
You can't do T-M-U.
I keep trying to tell it.
Why my nieces and everybody, because I got this.
Fuck that.
Let me tell you one thing.
Hey, watch your language.
We got a piece over there.
Excuse me, P-H-U-C-K that.
Right.
All right.
Uh-huh.
With that space.
I know what going on.
All right.
Before they even had T-Moo, just ordering stuff from China.
Right.
You see your dress?
Right.
Right.
Okay.
Me? I'm going to get an extra, extra, extra, extra,
Why you get that shit from China?
Right.
It'd be this big.
You have to weigh it as a headband.
Right.
This damn big.
You can't order shit from China.
You get what you pay for.
You do?
I don't understand why these people think that they can get a whole bedroom set for 99 cents.
Stop ordering that.
That's true.
You can't buy shit on TV.
I was telling her driving on there.
I'm going to stop buying shit on sale.
I ain't lying.
I even bought some crackers.
You know, them on some crackers.
Get them on sale.
They're already cracked.
All right.
Everything you try to buy, just, you don't buy cheap shit.
Ross and those places we used to go to the good cheap shit,
you get home, you get under the, you get fucking fucking underneath,
you something torn on that.
So I'm like, I'm about everything I'm buying from now going to be full price.
I mean, that's what I say.
Oh, I'm going to sell fiend.
You like to buy shit off that table?
Listen, I'm going to the thrift store right now.
I know when I walk in the thrift store, man, all this shit mine.
I'm just letting you buy it if I don't want it.
I'm like that.
I take it just...
So do you buy every night online also?
No, I love that online.
No, I don't like the online, because it's like
you really don't know what you're getting.
Yes, the hell you do.
You get some shit right?
No, there's a picture.
You can get some shit on there now where you can look at it at your house.
Whatever you look in there, that shit say, show it in your room.
You can plan the whole shit.
Then now they got a whole visual of how your house looks.
You bought a ceiling fan?
I showed it.
I hung it up in there.
Like, nope, I want five days.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, you're hung it up?
You did it yourself?
Okay, you said.
I did.
Well, you said you did.
You said I hung it up.
I hung it up virtually.
Okay, I don't know what that mean, but...
I mean, you can look at it on your phone.
You can look at YouTube and put it up, yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
Oh, you really?
Yeah.
That's how they paint your house before you paint it.
Right.
And you can see it on there.
Yeah.
I'm learning from y'all, see.
Yeah.
I'm learning, but you're learning a lot from us to, like us first,
comedically so, I'm the first, one of the first blacks to go into a room and say,
I want all of the door and some of the drinks.
Okay, now bring that back, bring that back, bring that back.
When was that moment when you realized this is how it got to be done
because you're seeing now that black comedians is getting taken advantage of?
Well, first of all, it all came from, I'm a business person,
so when I got out of, I wanted to be a comedian since six years old,
and doing that, and I had listened to so much from vaudeville
and all of the older guys, and they sometimes starved being a comedian.
and I wasn't gonna have that shit, so I knew I had to go,
we're the first generation of comedians
that went to college, right?
And I got out with a degree in marketing
and advertising and transportation,
and I knew what I wanted to do,
I had to make a lot of money,
and that's when I had the business sense.
Then I did, well, let me tell you,
when I got out college, I sold rags,
I sold real rags.
I sold the chamois when it didn't even have a name.
I sold real rags,
I used to sell shit like what you got on right now.
I saw that shit.
I'm so stupid.
Listen, I saw real, you seen real rags at the gas station.
They wiped the car down or something?
I saw those rags.
I used to walk in with a little pen like this, but it was a scale.
And I could weigh the rags how much they were paying for rags.
And I had to do fractions in my head, and I could sell a brand new rag to them,
reusable like the chamois is
and sell that instead of selling on like a piece
of old shirt like I got on
and I sold that I sold rags and I was selling to her in New York City
and you'd be surprised my first year
a little black kid out of college
made like $35,000 in my first year
this is back in 19702
So that shit down about a like $3 million.
Huh? That was a lot of money
but I was all about it because I'm going to be a comedian
and I'm giving a shit about making that kind of money
And when I stopped me, I went into advertising.
I was vice president of the world's largest outdoor advertising agencies.
I'm sure you've been to New York City,
see the Times Square on the billboards and spectaclers.
And I did all those billboards, I was vice president of that.
And the guy, when that ball, crystal ball drops every year,
a guy from Atlanta, his name was Douglas Lee, invented that ball.
And when he used to go to New York City in time, estate street,
the smoke coming out of the cigarette and the coffee.
So his name was Douglasly.
He invented that.
So then I start selling advertising.
And I make tons of money in 75.
$75,000 a year at the end as a little black kid.
But what?
I wanted to tell some jokes.
I didn't give a shit about making that money
because I'm gonna make money either way.
What we do, people don't understand it.
It's not about money.
The bottom line is to get up there and see happy people
and when you see happy people, it's a drug.
It's a drug.
It's sex and when people say,
if I can do it, you can do it.
I don't never tell people.
Bullshit.
I can't get up in the pulpit and preach like that man over there.
And accountants with numbers and shit like that,
and you can't do what I do.
Because all I do, and I thank God, preach, I'm glad you're here
because I'm the most successful person you have ever met.
And then how much money you make is how you enjoy your life while you're living.
And I love it.
And I thank God for what I do.
And I'm choking up right now because all I do is lie.
I just make up shit.
I just love to lie.
I just love to make up shit and just, and it's fun,
because life is a lie.
We'll talk about it in a minute,
because everything you do, there's a lie involved somewhere.
I ain't lying, you think I'm lying.
I can tell you, but you heard of a cheesecake factory?
That ain't no fucking factory.
That's a restaurant.
So, Santa Claus, it started as we were kids.
You can just go on everything.
It was a lie.
You name anything, there's a lie attached to it.
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I just told my daughter today ain't no damn Santa Claus.
You can't do that.
Yes, I can. Yes, you can?
No, because I told her I said, baby, let me tell you why. I'm not lying to you and then
waiting to you 12, 13 to be like, all right, you remember I've been lying to you all the year?
ain't no day on Santa Claus.
And then I'm going to take you.
Your ass just cheap.
That's what it.
You don't want to buy that baby no Christmas.
No, I don't want to think that this white fat man
bought her any goddamn anything.
It could be black now.
Just a new day.
Oh, that niggins sitting in the middle of the mall.
He ain't do it either.
All discriminating.
He'll want him.
Ain't do shit.
He can say that in Atlanta.
He can't be black in Atlanta.
He's black in Atlanta.
He's black in Atlanta.
He's black people in there.
But I didn't win in the mall on there.
Anybody ain't anybody taking pictures of Santa Cloud no more.
Is that?
Is that is up to him?
They're up the game.
They're at the speed.
Saturday Cloud down it like there.
Tell me, what time I get off?
He's like, yeah, man.
He got one foot on, one sock on.
He's telling him.
He said, ho, ho, ho.
He's like, ho.
And he's talking to somebody.
And he's talking to somebody when he says ho.
He's talking about, ho.
Come over here.
Let's talk to you.
Salis, man.
Believe, don't believe.
I don't give it down.
Check don't change.
We don't care kids.
We don't care.
But every time you, every time you,
open your mouth, there's pretty much a lie around the corner somewhere.
Can't wait.
Well, we grew up with a lying, you know, even you grew up, then we used to clean our ears or what?
Mm-hmm.
A Q-Tip.
Now, what did they say?
A cotton cloth.
Don't do that anymore.
Uh-uh.
Don't do that, don't do it.
Everything is just, they got something new.
You're twisting you.
Everything, A1 vitamins, one of their vitamins.
Read the direction.
What does it say?
Take two.
It's all bullshit.
It's all bullshit.
You can go down.
line. It's all but you. I do an hour
this stuff every night. All the lies
in life. I do a bit
about the Vix Vaporub.
Remember, Vix Vaporub?
Everybody's sick. They put the Vix Vaporibor.
You ever read the label? Do not
ingest. It says it right on the thing.
It didn't say this.
My grandma gave us that shit like potato salad. You better
eat this Vigna. You want to get better? Eat the
Vipar rub. So y'all ate it?
Then we ate it. No, what you're talking about? See this here?
See these two fingers? Just in. I've really got to
Hell no. You take a swig like that.
I bet you you have. That's why your ass still here.
The way it is on my chest, yes.
No, no, no. You probably had it. You old enough to have that. You're from Georgia, right?
Yeah. You didn't have some. You had some. You just don't know what you're born raised.
I would have told on my mother. Oh, hold on. Hold on. Hold on.
They used to take that thing and put it off in that jar.
See? See? He's from Mississippi. He really got you.
He didn't say nothing. I told you he was 25 in 70.
Shit, I was like on your chest.
Yep, you weed the labor.
I'm gonna buy in a sauce and saltine, baby.
Well, ain't that no goddamn big vapor roll.
Not you.
The first time I see my grandfather do that shit, I said, he'll grown-ass man.
You got that right.
Eat some big paper roll.
Yes.
Yeah.
That's where all those...
Smalling, baby.
Yeah.
My dad used to take...
Pastor.
Pastor, you ate big pepper rum too.
Yeah.
I'm telling you.
My dad used to, he had a cold.
He takes some sugar.
all the young niggins in him.
He takes a sugar, put it on a spoon,
then they take some kerosene
and put it on the sugar.
You better not say nothing about the weed.
And then he lick on it like candy.
And his ad died the next day.
No, no, I'm serious, but old people
had remedies for everything back in the day.
You'd be surprised.
No, wouldn't I grew up around a whole lot of old people.
I went my mother would have told me
she has vip baby rule.
I was a bit smoking in the house.
I was like, okay, you want a bit baby rule.
Don't say nobody we.
Don't say that, this ain't
ain't made for rub.
I promise you to have something to make you take it.
Yeah, you would have made you take it.
See, I used to sell my thorn when I was young, right?
No, one I don't want to shake your damn man.
You had your thumb in your damn mouth.
That's the craziest thing you could ever do in your life.
Walk around.
I'm going to put some shit on my thorn to make me not say it.
It didn't even matter, this.
It didn't work.
I'm telling you.
It didn't work.
When you go to bed at night, you still suck your touch you.
No, I didn't.
I'm talking about not.
Hell no.
I got a tent.
in my mouth, but I ain't turn that time.
I'm like, look, I'm gonna replay this.
Let me get me.
Get sleepy.
He's stupid, he's stupid.
I never fall asleep.
I'll be up all night, all that line.
This is so cool to be with you guys.
Oh, my God.
I love, I want to go back to, I love this shit.
Because this is how we grow.
This is how we get to go back and talk to these
nigger and look at them, talk shit.
And they'd be like, Ray y'all,
they ain't do shit, bro.
Like, it's people who really paid away for us.
When you say, all right,
starting in the game.
First one to get all the dope.
Like, me and him both know,
we had worked before we got all the dope.
You know what I'm saying?
There was deals in between the deals,
and it was like,
but they just game, but whatever,
we just agreed to get to come out of the house.
When, what was it like when you were like,
all right, I know the business.
I'm not going to be like them.
I got to, like you said, I got to get rich.
I got to make some money.
And this is the way for me to make some money.
Well, what had happened is that I had,
Everything I've done, I've worked on commission.
Like I said, come out of college, selling rags, that was commission.
So everything I've ever done is pay me for what I do.
And if you work hard, they'll happen to come to you.
And I figured after, and I want to tell you who made me doing the Tonight Show was really powerful.
But when I started doing Arsenio Hall, that's when the shit came together.
When the black audience has started to come and come to see the show.
And this place is packed.
And I'm in Birmingham, Alabama, and the, what's the name of the place?
on. I'm doing five shows on a Saturday.
And then it's just like, give me some,
and they were making money on food.
And to this day, if you ain't sharp enough,
they would take your money. They would take your lot of it.
You got to go on there and tell them says,
give me as much as I can.
Because if you're going to make money on the food,
but at that time, I was so stupid,
I said, and give me some of the bar.
That started in Maryland.
Let's give me some of the bar.
And they still make tons of money
because they were selling their food.
Everything was,
Any bar in a world would love to make two drinks a night off of about five shows,
what is that, 1,500 people.
Any bar owner would love that, just sell the drinks, and just give me the profit off the drinks.
And so I started to say, well, give me some of the money.
And I wasn't necessarily looking for the money.
I was having fun, but I said, if I'm bringing the people in, then I said, yeah.
I would always encourage all comics, have a plan B.
Have a plan B.
Stand-up is great, getting on that stage, but just like you are doing podcasts, but if you can, I also write, I love writing for television.
Absolutely.
Love it.
When I tell you right now, being in the writer's guild, I get a pension, I got health care, I got my, yeah, I got a 401k, so, okay.
That's so cool.
Your sister's doing okay.
So always know, even though the light is shining brightly, it may not shine like this always.
But if you got this going on, and you got it.
I ain't seen him in the club.
You'd be sitting back like, you're doing fine.
I'm doing fine.
That's another thing you young guys better do.
You got a daughter?
You got kids?
I got a son.
Stop putting that money away.
You're working, you're making all that money on the weekend.
Put $500 away every time you work and build up a fund for your kids, be ready for college.
And if they talk back and get nasty shit, you don't save you some money.
No, that was not a joke.
That was meant to be, be prepared for your kids.
You've got to take care of your kids.
I told a guy, what's the guy that in Joe Clare?
Every time I see him, he thanks me for giving him that advice 20 years ago.
Now his daughter's ready to go to school.
Prepare, save that money for kids.
Save that money for you too.
Because the light ain't always going to be bright.
And light will get them one day.
I think when even when we get into this game,
I think we need to have a form of a union where it's a financial literacy.
where it's like, hey, motherfucker,
when you start getting into a certain bracket,
it's people over here that want to see you stay.
It ain't more so like, let's see,
let's watch the nigg and see if he's gonna fall or not.
You're saying them to spend the money.
You're watching them.
You're like, no man, let's try to help them.
Exactly.
No cap.
You slow, you slow.
And you're in the best business in the world.
I don't know what the other people watching us.
I know you guys know.
Nobody can do what we do,
do, but you also chose the hardest form of entertainment.
Absolutely.
And you're by yourself.
You don't think it's easy.
They think it's easy.
Tell them again.
They think it's true easy.
When we were on the time joining morning show,
Jayne Brown said to me one day, he said,
Maya Jay, we get up, we come to work.
We have the food for a living, and then they pay us.
I was like, that's the coolest shit ever.
You just ask the food for a living, and then you go get paid.
My mama said to me, she said, I'm so glad you got hired on that little
radio show? The family was like, that child ain't going to be able to keep a job.
She's silly. She can't do nothing. She ain't going to be right. She won't get a husband. What's
wrong with her? Well, that's something wrong with all comedians, that's for sure. But you'll make
all the money you can. It is the toughest job. Like you say, they think it's easy. And you've got to do it
every night. And then sometimes one joke, you can't perfect a joke. It takes a year sometimes.
That's what that joke is. You got to keep on going. Got to keep on doing.
And then we be battling shit on our own.
Like, we'd be having to turn that shit right on how soon they call our name.
Like, if you don't understand, when they call our name,
we got to grab that mic.
We can't go backstage and be like, hold up, y'all.
I'm going to be right back.
That ain't how that work.
Like, it's a, it's go time, buddy.
Well, I'll do that shit.
I'll go out there and the joke don't work,
and I'll say, well, I'm going to do this shit again
until y'all start laughing.
And I'll repeat the same joke.
You are paying for this joke.
You're going to hear this joke.
No, no, listen to me.
When you're having fun.
Most important, when you're out on that stage,
enjoy yourself too while you're having fun.
Yes, sir.
Yeah, so it is the greatest thing in the world.
It's not laughing at your own jokes,
but you're involved with them and you're...
I don't do a show.
We do a show.
Right.
We do a show.
They don't know that it's an act.
It's a part of the Renaissance.
Yes, sir.
It's a form of expression.
So it's like, we're going up there
to be the best act that you've seen tonight.
Well, we want to show you the next act of what we got.
Yeah.
Just put it like that.
You know what I'm saying?
I feel good right now.
now. You know what I do? I got to just sitting there listening to you and I see you. I feel
the experience. I guess it's kind of like religion. And when you go to church and people
get all involved, they get so deep in that religion. That's what happens with us with laughter
and saying somebody on stage killing. When I see you guys working, I'm looking at you guys.
And we all learn from each other. Y'all talk about learning from us old people.
We're watching y'all. We're watching y'all come out to talk to the people.
And I don't, I've been watching you. You don't even have an act.
You just come out and start talking shit.
And that's...
Look at that.
That's how good it is, you know?
And when you're really good and comfortable,
you're just saying hello, and people are happy to see you.
People want to laugh.
People need to laugh, especially these days and time.
And if we're able to deliver, oh, my God, is that awesome?
I'm glad I went to work tonight.
There's a lot of nights we don't want to work.
And then you go up and say, I'm glad I went to that show.
I'm glad I went to work.
I'm glad I went to work.
Because God know that we need it too.
We've been to a lot.
Yeah, Gardner, we've been to a lot.
I don't know whether you've been to any death.
My mom is dead and things like that.
Your mom just, and you just, if you can go up there and laugh,
something can make you laugh.
Unfortunately, well, fortunately, us, me and Jay,
and it's really kind of stupid talking about death because, you know,
we talk about each other's mama,
and you can't talk about each other's mama unless your mama dead.
That's pretty low.
Let me tell y'all something.
You're crazy, right?
I know what you're going to say, go ahead.
Jay Anthony Brown,
and Mama died.
And we went to the funeral.
They all got there before me.
I got there late.
So they all sitting up in the funeral child.
Place is packed.
Place is packed.
And so Jay is sitting on the front row.
And his mom is sitting right there.
Just the coffin.
Jay sitting right here.
I walked by Jay.
I said,
I just come down here to make sure that bitch is dead.
Yes, he did.
Now.
Now, they sit in the corner, they go, oh, shit, what did he say?
He was, they're hugging.
George rushes out the door.
I'm thinking, oh, he didn't get caught up emojis me.
I'm going to go out there, check on him, make sure he's okay.
I rush out to the parking lot.
I'm like, George, you're all right to me.
Did you hear what he said to me?
No, what he said.
He said, you black motherfucker.
You better have come to my mama's funeral.
That's what he said to me.
You better have to come to my mama's funeral.
So that's how good, powerful, loud.
is the greatest medicine in the world.
And we'd like to tell people it's also free medicine.
Right.
That's why we encourage people to overdose on laughter.
Right.
Keep it in the reach of children.
Absolutely.
And when you start laughing for more than four hours,
if you laugh, then you call your doctor.
Right.
No cap.
And let the doctor laugh with you.
Give the doctor the same prescription,
and laughter is, boom, that powerful.
Yes, sir.
When you can have friends who are comics as well,
as funny as you all are on stage.
I know, both you all know,
there's some of the funniest moments you've ever had.
All-stage.
Offstage.
Offstage.
It's the best.
Oh, my God.
It's the best.
It's when you're having a good time.
It's like the offstage is who we really is.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like this the shit like, ooh, boy.
See, we be trying to critique this and be strategic with it on stage and be politically and correct.
Just be you.
Just be right down on you.
Outstage.
I don't get my fuck about making a nigger bad, nigger.
Ah!
Get the fuck out of my state, man.
He's something wrong with him.
He's been busy. Pray for him.
He's no. He's been praying for him since I was 17.
Well, that damn show prayer ain't working.
We've had, between all of us on the time joining morning show,
it was such a great experience,
and we've had so many crazy stories.
One particular time, the show is just about to start, you know,
the sky's showing, you know, the curtain is down,
the audience is screaming, ah!
And the jingles playing, thump, thump, thong, thong.
And George had some L toys.
Oh, no.
And he's taking...
I keep alt-toy's.
Jay said, hey man, give me altoids.
Fuck you. Get your own, Al-Toh.
Get your own Al-Too.
Curtin goes up, show stars, blah, blah, blah.
Two hours into the show.
It's time for George to go out and do his stick.
He'd go out there, and he's in the middle of his acting.
He looks over, and he had left his al-toys sitting on the console over the other.
Jay got the al-toys looking dead in George's mouth,
taking him out one at a time, licking him and putting him back in the can.
Hey, George Kay said, me and Mr. Pierce said, we are laying at,
the time don't know what's happening.
We lay out on the stage, laughing so hard,
because we know Jay King, I mean, George can't say a word.
He got to keep doing my little bullshit.
Oh, God.
Just kidding.
Oh, God, we would die.
Just at the time, I didn't have Walker Flock.
I said, you know, you can tell jokes in your mind being thinking,
this motherfucker licked and all of my.
Yes, he did.
And you can keep telling your jokes.
That's how good we are.
Keep delivering your jokes, but you're thinking something else.
And they're going, listen, I couldn't wait you get on stage.
But we used to do shit like that.
Oh, yeah.
We would do shit like that, just having fun.
We've had some.
One time we went to South Africa, it was actually me, J.
Sibble, and Yogi.
Now, I encourage everybody.
Visit Africa.
It's life-changing.
But we go to South Africa, and they have in Botswana,
where they have a safari.
Now, normally, people go to all the safari stations.
You see all these little tourist things, safari, safari.
We black people in Africa.
We just going to stay.
We got Brumman on the street.
We're not going to go to one of them touristy things.
So we did.
We just stopped somebody on the street.
Hey, we're from America.
We want to see.
He said, come tomorrow.
Okay.
We came tomorrow.
He drives us out to the jungle.
We sitting there waiting.
We see all these white people getting in a nice little air-condition van.
Here come Brumman in a pickup truck where he didn't just put, nailed on a couple of pieces of wood for the bench.
We ain't got no covering or nothing.
Y'all just on the back of the truck.
Now, Jay, he sitting up in top of shit.
He whispered, whee-wee, he and lion, lion, where the lions is at?
We don't pay that much.
We want to see the lions.
He said, oh, no, it's too late in the morning.
The lions, they get up at dawn.
The lions are sleeping now.
Well, we want to see something, man.
We want to see something.
So we see a few gazelle and some giraffe.
We turn and face-to-face, we're in the deep in the bush with these tall trees and stuff.
And as clear as that wall is right there, a big-ass elephant raised up on his high legs
and came down, the whole earth shook and Jay screamed like a white woman.
Turned to jipo out!
He said, I want to see some concrete and linoleum.
Turned the jeeple.
This shit is over.
The man, he turned the gym and said, take the picture.
Is this not why you come to Africa?
Yeah.
They were like this shit is over.
But y'all in the middle of the jungle.
We were in the middle of the jungle.
That's fine.
That's important, too.
Do you guys travel?
Yes.
You've got to travel.
Young people watching right now more than anything.
If you would never remember anything I ever said,
make sure you travel.
Why?
I teach young people, life is backwards.
Don't you hear old people say,
when I turn 65, I'm going to retire and travel all over the world?
For what?
You're too damn old.
You can't do shit.
People at the Iper towel.
Old people at the Iper towel looking up.
Oh, it's too hot.
Make sure you travel to go to the new beaches
to get all that shit out of your system
and have some fun.
I'm serious.
It's the greatest thing in the world
is you travel?
You've been to the new beat.
Yeah, we were so sorry that he went.
That's when I became a comedian.
People started laughing at my shit.
They started laughing.
They started laughing.
Oh, people at the Africa.
I was talking about, oh, it's too hot.
If you,
and make sure you travel.
You've been to Africa?
You've been to Africa?
I haven't been.
You make sure you go.
You gotta go.
Do as I do on stage every night.
I tell people, now if you really want to go Africa, I don't care why.
If you really want to go to Africa, you ain't got no money, you call Delta Allies, and they're going to fly you to Atlanta.
That's close enough.
Yeah.
You won't know the difference.
There's more black people.
Now, this is a true story.
Now, y'all know Wakanda.
Wakanda?
Wakanda, the movie.
Yeah.
They wanted...
Call it.
Whaconda.
Who that is?
Who that was?
The movie.
Wakanda.
Black Panther.
Black Panther.
They wanted to make that movie in Africa.
Right.
It's your story.
And they went over to Africa to make the movie.
But when they got over there, they didn't have enough black people.
So they had to call Delta.
And bring their head right back to Atlanta.
We had that back to the eight.
All this shit is true of making up.
Right.
Oh, but, uh, mm-hmm.
That would work on the road a lot.
Now, you had worked on the road a lot.
Now, about how many weeks a year do you say you work?
I used to work, uh, well, when I started as a committee,
our goal was to, at the time was opening for big time
entertainers.
Like, when I started, I did the tonight show on a Thursday,
and the next night I was in front of 17,000 people
with Natalie Cole.
And then I left Natalie Cole and when I was
George Benson for a few months. I left George Benz. This is the goal. And even at that time,
back in the 70s, being an opening comedian, he was getting like a little money, like $5,000 a show
or a week. So I left that, left Natalie Cole with George Benson and Donald Sommer.
Hold up. Let me clear that up. You was getting $5,000 a week or a show. A lot of people
wasn't able to do that.
They don't understand. You know, these young folk be like,
Hey, no, I told you.
No, they don't understand, like, that's a true hustle.
Right.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and then, you know, then I went to with Diana Ross for a year and a half.
And then I went left Donna Ross, a man named, a white man named Tom Jones.
I don't know if you ever heard of him.
Mm-hmm.
He says, come work with me.
And I thought, I'm with Diana Ross, 17, 18,000 people every night.
So Diana Ross went on vacation.
Next night, next week I went out with Tom Jones just for make another $5,000.
There's a hustle, right?
And I knew it was a start, but I didn't know.
how international, it was 17,000, 18,000 people just like that,
and I stayed with him for five and a half years.
Learning how to be a comedian,
doing theater in the round,
doing theater, 70,000 people that racetracks
and things like that, I learned to be a comedian.
At the time, at Caesar's Palace in Atlantic City,
we were doing these shows, you do two shows tonight.
And that was a dinner show.
So you were out there doing jokes while people were eating,
and you had to be clean.
And so, but that's when I learned how to be a community.
Most comedians do 15 to 20 minutes when they open.
When I got to Tom Jones, he says, 45, I had to do 45 minutes.
And that's when I learned.
I got to be good.
I had to learn something every night and go out and, you know, as far as gambling.
I was doing shit like, see those chandeliers out there?
And I took to pay for all of those, pay for all that shit.
You know, it's because you lost money on everything.
You can't win.
Only way you can double your money on Los Angeles is mug somebody at the airport and get your ass on an airplane.
Okay.
But that's when we were really learning to make that money.
and Don Rosses, and just, I forgot what the question was.
I'm so into this.
No, we just listened.
It's just so great to have done that and to make money back in the day
and learn how to be who we are.
And then come and we see you guys with your platform on television
that you guys can do this.
We couldn't make it on TV.
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When they speak of the, you know, what they call it, the chicken circuit?
Chitlin Circuit.
Chitland Circuit.
Yeah, did you get a chance to experience the Chitlin Circuit?
No, they were before, Marr, you're from Chicago.
You know something about that, don't you?
Well, actually, Luanda Page, who played Aunt Esther.
Mm-hmm.
Press on the left.
Yes, yes, yes.
She was a fire either.
Yep, yep, on us.
Yes, a beautiful dancer in Marville and stuff.
But me and Robin Harris was supposed to be doing this comedy special for HBO.
It never aired.
No.
But I'm sitting there.
I'm going over notes and stuff and there's sitting up everything.
And this lady walked in and she said, what you're doing, baby?
I said, I'm studying.
I'm going up.
And she took my paper from me.
She said, either you know it or you don't.
I looked up, it's Aunt Esther.
I don't want to say nothing like.
Okay, I'm just going to go on stage and do it.
So I did it, and she must have sat me down afterwards
and talked to me for about 30 minutes,
and I'll never forget this, because it meant so much to me
because I admired her so much.
She said, baby, you got something special.
She said, you're going to get some offers to do TV and movies.
She said, but never stop doing stand-up,
because if you can do stand-up, you can make some money.
Sometimes TV and movies, she said,
there's too much mustard for the hot dog.
and I knew exactly what she was saying.
And she talked about the Chitlin Circuit.
She said, I used to have to play in a place called Jump Off Mississippi.
And she said, yeah, I had to jump off the bus and walk the rest of the way.
I was like, okay.
Okay, but she just talked about how difficult it was for them
and having to go in the back doors and just how they were so treated as second-class citizens.
But they wanted to do comedy and how kind red-frey.
Fox had been to her, and I will forever be grateful to people like George Wallace and
J. Anthony Brown and Brad Sanders and Tom Joyner, people who just Robin Harris, who I always
love, who actually just pulled me under their wings. So if you find someone, you know,
just like you pulled him in, you like him, each one of us just needs to help somebody
because even though you guys are very successful, you still know what you had to go through
to get to where you are.
This ain't easy, and people see you
online and streaming. Oh, you're sitting at the house.
Oh, yeah. My family shouldn't say, I'm funny. I'm going to do comedy.
It ain't the same. It ain't the same.
And your purpose in life is to give back.
It is a give back. It is to go out and reach.
I love, when I saw you on stage in Washington, D.C., I was so proud
that here's a young man, and he was from Atlanta.
Well, you were out of Atlanta. Are you born-raised in Atlanta?
Mm-hmm. Born-ray.
I'm born-raised here, and I'm so old.
I actually rode the back of the bus.
You don't know anything about that, do you?
Yeah, I do.
Yeah, I do.
You know of it, but you don't know about it.
Yeah, I didn't have the experience.
Yeah, but I'm so...
Talk about the difference of knowing of it and knowing about it.
Huh?
I said, talk about the difference of knowing of it and knowing about it.
Well, knowing of it is that we live in Atlanta has never been a great problem
racially wise.
That's why they have the title, The City Too Busy to Hate.
And, you know, the NWACP and the Jews.
and everything.
They came to Atlanta.
And they got, Atlanta's always been a real, that's why it's the mecca now.
Black people still come in.
There's always been there.
Don't go to Cobb County.
Huh?
Don't go to Cobb County.
When I was a kid, no, don't go to Cobb County when I was a kid.
It's still like that up there.
Sometimes I sit on time.
That's the place that police give a man a ticket for eating a cheeseburger while he was driving.
Yep.
I remember, did somebody laugh over there?
This is true shit.
Mm-hmm.
What?
Police pissing me off.
But it's coming up during those racial days,
and I thank God for people like Judge Pickney, Markham,
the young kids don't know who I'm talking about,
Moms Mabley, Red Fox, and I was, and I grew up to,
when I got to Los Angeles one night,
I was on stage at the Comedy Store,
and the producer said,
we'd like for you to write for the Red Fox show,
and I said, I'm not, I want to be a comedian,
but I don't know anything about writing at all, not just yet.
And then they said, well, it's $2,500 a week.
And I said, I think I'll come up with something.
And listen, this is the 77, and then, you know, and I just wanted to learn.
And then I, how long did you do it?
One year, it was not Samson, it was called Red Fox Show Variety Hour.
Right, right, right, right.
It was an hour, it was an hour show on ABC.
It was wonderful, and I only lasted a year, but I learned how to do that for a year.
And no matter who you write for, no matter how will they do the joke, you always say,
could have done it better, should have, but to meet people and get to work for Red Fox and then travel
and worked the same rooms that he did.
And when I went to Las Vegas,
I went for 30 days, 60 days, 90 days,
and then I went up, been there for 15 years.
So I'm the only black guy that I've went to Las Vegas
and not work for the hotels.
I own the show.
I did all of the marketing, advertising,
the handshake and all of that stuff,
and owned the show for 15 years.
And that's a pretty big goal accomplished.
And then I always wanted to say,
what was your goal?
My goal was to be a comedian in Las Vegas.
And it hit me about three years ago, five years ago.
Like, oh, I need a new goal.
Because I was very successful, made a lot of money in Las Vegas.
And maybe I'll go back.
I don't know, but it was amazing to have done that.
And now that's why I see you young guys going into Vegas
doing your shows and having fun.
And I think that's a great thing.
Huh?
I'm coming.
We got to come and do your show.
You got another to pay all of us.
But your ass I never see it.
No, I used to, that would be really cool.
I used to bring everybody to my show.
My show was different to Los Vegas.
She worked for me, Jimmy Walker, Jennifer Holliday.
And I had to go, let me know who else worked for me.
You're not gonna believe this.
I said, war, I had, I would do some crazy stuff.
You don't even know this group.
There's a group called Sly and the Family Stone.
Yes, I do.
He played Slat and the Family's on a B&T move.
Did you?
Yes, indeed.
I had them, well, I had them on my show.
I ain't stupid enough, it's my show,
but I ain't stupid enough to try to follow him,
so I opened the show.
And so it was so cool,
and then the people, the place was sold out,
there are Oz in Las Vegas, 40 to one,
that he wouldn't show up.
Let me tell you this story to tell you how I know war.
My dad used to run a shoe shop at Colony Square, right?
Okay.
And some guys came in,
they wanted to get some boots done for a show.
Right.
And it ended up being the guys from war,
so they brought him backstage,
and they let my dad kick it with himself.
He always played war.
So I know exactly who you talked about.
Yeah.
Who in war?
George Lopez, why can we be friends?
Why can we be friends?
Yeah, and just have groups like that open for you.
I thought it was a great accomplishment to be in Las Vegas.
That might be my greatest accomplishment.
A greatest accomplishment may be still doing that today,
being able to just walk on stage.
Not even the movies?
You know, Car Wash, you're using food.
Hey, Mr. Washington.
Crazy motherfucker on that phone.
I'll part you before I hire you.
But that kids say, go on and say,
Mother We were thinking this time you're up on our paper.
First of all, you ain't thinking.
Right.
If and when, if and when you find the word up and in the dictionary,
that's what I'm going to up and do it.
Right.
But in the meantime, y'all need to open your ass back on that line over there.
Doing movies and fun when they let you do what you want to do,
and I'm having fun.
And they've never known what to do for me in TV,
but now this year, in the next two months, February 6th,
we're going to drop.
I do have a new TV show.
Good talk.
Want to talk about it now?
Let me go.
It's called clean slate.
Okay.
No.
Clean slate.
So the premise of the story is I wanted to reboot Sanp and son.
Nobody had ever done it.
So I wanted to go back and do Sam, because I got his, I had his hair at a time.
My hair's little short now, but when I take my hat off sometimes, people say I look like Lou Nails Mama.
Judge it.
But I wanted to, I want to reboot, I want to reboot his son.
Son.
Shout out to Luke now.
Yeah, yeah.
Shout out to her.
She's somewhere eating.
I love Lumelle.
Me too.
And my new show, I wanted her to be a part of my show.
My next TV show I'm going to do as old as I am.
It's going to be me and her.
It's going to be like duster and red, bite.
I love it.
Back and poor.
But what I wanted to do was reboot Samp and Son.
I want to Norman Lear to create all of our black shows.
He hadn't had a show on for a long while, but everybody still respected him.
So he said, no, we can't do that.
He says, come up with an idea.
an idea, maybe a twist to it.
A friend of mine has two kids, twins.
One's a girl and one's a boy.
But the boy never identified as a boy.
So my head is thinking, like,
I don't give a damn that's your kid.
You gotta love that kid no matter what.
No matter what.
So it light bulb went off in my head.
No, let me make that better.
The Lord told me, you know people just make up shit.
The Lord, people just, the Lord told me.
Lord ain't told me that I just made that shit up, okay?
The devil told me.
You know, one of my favorite bits that you do is that when you say you hate, when people ask you a question and answer it at the same time.
Oh, you mean my Uncle Bo, right here from Decatur.
Right.
Uncle Bo, you know your crazy uncle?
Uh-huh.
He really wasn't taught me how to cuss.
But he would ask you a question to answer that at the same time.
What do you like?
How y'all get up here, walk?
You ask me a question.
What y'all doing, a home?
Ain't no school a day?
Huh?
Cat got your tongue?
Why's so hot in here?
got the heat on. Ask your question to answer that the same. What's your mom are cooking chicken?
Who preaching my Reverend Brooks? Ask your question and answer at the same time. Oh my God.
You got it, if you listen to old people like y'all listen to us, you can learn a lot. Old people can
really, really sit your ass on fire. If you just listen to some of the things they say and do.
You got a lot of history. That's a very historic picture of you. Y'all are audiobooks.
That go, that I've seen online. If you were, when you were, what, teenager, you read a Martin
Luther King's speech or something.
I was at Martin Luther King Jr. Stennell.
Oh, that's, oh my God, that's so much stuff.
And then you pointed out, you're like,
look, there's me in the back right there.
And what happened?
Like a documentary or a movie or something.
It was a documentary of what happened.
I said, I was at Dr. Martin King, Jr.
And everyone went, yeah, sure.
I said, I'm not lying, I can't prove it to yet,
but I was on a poll next to a utility pole.
There was a poll next to I couldn't get in
because people are already on the pole.
And then they, somebody went and got
to all of the history of the tunnel.
And you always think, yeah, yeah.
And they shoot photos of going,
going in the church, but these particular photos
were coming out of the church.
And it looked, and I said, is that you right there?
I start crying, because I couldn't believe a picture.
Had you ever seen the picture?
I had never seen the picture.
And that was me.
I had told him I was on a pole next to the pole.
And sure enough, that was me on the pole.
And I keep that with me, I turned my phone off,
I can't show it to you, but I was on the pole at his funeral
and just to be at his funeral and go through things like that
and that time.
See, that's the type of shit,
that we can't get that story from, you know what I mean,
That's the history that we get to.
Dude, there's so much history out there.
I wish you could do that.
Just when I was writing the Red Pock Show,
and a man walked in, the greatest comedian,
one of the greatest comedians ever, a man walked in,
and I freaked out.
He said, he walked in, and I just jumped up,
and I said, I'm the greatest of all the time.
I'm not going on. Muhammad Ali walked in the room.
I freaked out.
To meet Muhammad Ali.
You're talking about a comedian.
People never say that, but I'm telling you right now,
one of you ever watched Muhammad Ali and then smiled,
then laugh.
But he tells a joke all the time, no matter what,
It made sense.
No college, but he could just talk to anybody,
on whatever level you're on, from presidents down to Joe.
He was just a nice man sometime in Hollywood,
he'd be walking the street by himself.
And you go, I'm saying, what, y'all here?
Well, I'm doing, all right, George.
Just a great man, I love him.
You see a lot of stars like, get they start.
You've been working out in Vegas, and did you ever meet
Sammy Davis, Jr.?
I met Sammy Davis Jr.
I was with Donna Ross.
He closed, I met him several times,
and that's the death of the difference.
So every night, I thank God on that stage,
I thank God for people like Red Fox,
Simon Davis Jr. and Lena Horn,
because they paid away for me and us
to walk out on those stage and then,
and I always like to mention that,
you know, they couldn't come through the front door
to work the very stage that I'm on right now.
And I'm at the Flamingo.
That's the first big theater in Los Angeles, 46, 47.
That's the stage they were.
They were black and they couldn't go through the front door.
And I always kid the people that I want to be just like them.
If they were alive today, they'd be surprised to know that we're still going through that damn back door.
It doesn't matter who we are.
We still got to go through the kitchen.
Y'all know that.
We still got to go no matter who you are.
The first play I ever saw was Simon Davis Jr. and Golden Boy.
Oh, okay.
And I was a kid, and I remember this part in there because he played, he played a boxer.
And he fell for this white woman and blah.
blah, blah, blah, blah. And I still remember the line when he confronted the white lady about,
you love me, right? The white guy named was Tom, and she turned and said, I love Tom, tell him what.
And how Sammy Davis Jr. looked so crushed. I was a kid, and I cried in the audience because I was so
crushed for him. So I always just had this great respect for Sammy Davis Jr., because it was just such a wonderful one.
You saw him live on a Broadway play?
Yes.
Oh, my God.
Yes, yes, yes.
And then you were just talking about the greats.
Even now, we didn't even have the black comedy clubs.
We listen to albums.
We listen.
Okay.
Tell about the albums.
I said albums.
Yes.
And so.
Yes.
Flip Wilson, Dick Gregory.
We sat down.
As kids, because most of that, especially we at Fox, we weren't supposed to, we'd wait
to our folks got drunk or sleeper was gone.
and we'd sit up there next to the high-fi.
Y'all know what a high-fi is.
And how about if next to this we can just be giggling and cracking up.
But we would have to imagine and picture because we didn't even see these.
I got an extensive collection of party records.
You do?
There you go.
You got just being in Markham?
I got some picnic, Markle.
You got Red Foxer, right?
Most definitely.
You got Wild Man Steve?
Yes.
No way.
I was at the taping.
I was at that taping at the Palo Theater in New York City.
You got to wash your ass.
And I don't mean you got to wash your whole ass.
You got to wash your ass hold.
Right.
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
They're laughing at.
Yep.
Oh, my God.
Did you have you guys experience?
Then after leaving Atlanta and going to college in Ohio, I moved to New York City to get into the theater world and being able to go to Broadway and see people on stage like James Earl Jones.
And I knew I wanted to be in.
I saw him do fences.
And he was, oh, my God, he was so good.
And I was telling my friend.
I can do this shit.
I know I could do this shit.
And then James O. Jones got to the parlor.
He was talking to the son.
He was crying and snotting shit was coming out of the nose.
Oh, he went all the way out.
I can't do that.
You can't do that.
You can't do that on demand.
Just able to see these great, New York.
He can't do the shit on the man at the day.
And to see all of the, what was a fat lady named that we used to run Broadway?
You know that lady.
Give me a break.
Nell Carter.
Oh, yeah.
To see all of these people on stage,
Benson, what was Benson named, Nathan, Detroit?
Robert Guillaume.
Oh, man, to see all these black people
on Broadway back on the day.
Ooh, the whiz?
Man, what's the girl name?
She'd have blown your mind.
Stephanie Smith.
Oh, my God.
To see this stuff live,
I wish you guys were alive to have seen that.
Talked about Neil Carter.
If you touch me one more time,
I swear to God.
When I did,
but Bebe's kids,
I played the evil Dorothea who was chasing.
Yeah.
You didn't know that?
You did not know.
Black history fact.
What?
Girl, you know he still loved you.
Oh, you love me now, for real, for real.
You did not know I was Dorothy.
Girl, he's still loved you.
Well, wait.
She got a green name.
Say it again.
Say it again.
It's you.
That was Mel Carter.
Mel Carter.
Why who figured out fell into the same?
Yeah, that knee!
Wait.
See, I'm sitting here thinking, you know this, you don't know who this is.
Here was the funniest part.
When we actually, and people know, it was Phazon who played Robin.
Robin had passed.
Right.
We're sitting there reading to just stick figures.
They had not done the movie yet.
I never saw what I looked like till the actual film came out, and I'm at the premier.
And I'm sitting there, I'll probably like it.
When I tell you the little kids
hated me.
Get a rabbit.
All right, yeah.
About a bad, the boy was all that was down to my head.
You know you've done a good job.
I was about to get jumped by a bunch of seven-year-old.
That's crazy.
You know you've done a good job.
I'm listening to people hate you in the movie.
They hated me.
No, we loved you.
What are your favorite roles did you?
Thank you.
I enjoyed a gentleman on finish telling you about their TV show.
I enjoyed.
Excuse my language.
Wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait I know god damn well y'all don't order no food and then order non-brugged
I don't give a damn you knew we was coming that's rude that's a rude shit no I knew I was gonna offer you though you ain't offer me shit I don't want no cold you could offer me my own
duh uh where you get you whatever this shit is too late now shit it's time with a crystal clothes no then JJ
Chris is don't close oh yeah that's right fish out Chicago I get some shrimps scrimps or swim
Yeah.
You just say swim.
Swamps.
Oh, she's a country ass.
Hey, man, don't give her you a food shit eat at all.
She's got some chicken.
Well, I grew up off her.
He asked me, I'm black sitting on her eating.
Yeah, I want some chicken.
You know, because I'm tired of that damn turkey.
You got some chicken then.
That's turkey.
Let me tell you.
Now, I'm good, I just say.
Let me have French fry.
Oh, yeah, I'm good.
Now, you got a hot sauce on there.
I know you ain't still eat no turkey.
Oh, so what?
You still eat left over?
No.
So let me, that's a trick.
I may be wrong about this when you have the Thanksgiving dinner.
Correct me, can you from Mississippi?
Is the turkey the least favorite thing and the least tasteless thing on the table?
Yeah, nobody wants the turkey.
Everybody want that ham, high blood pressure.
Come on, the ham, high blood.
What is it with the turkey?
People fly thousand miles away with the turkey.
If you don't get that wing inside with the seasoning on it, you've got some dry-ass meat.
Well, I'm just going to say, so I'm just going to tell you.
So I'm just going to tell you, I think we invented frying turkeys.
Who?
Because we've been frying turkeys since.
Oh, yeah.
That's what happened.
Somebody said the shit ain't good.
Somebody said fry it.
That's how they came up.
They never had no fried turkey.
You never had a fried turkey?
You never had a fried turkey.
You got to have a couple fried turkey.
I don't have a dead meat.
Then you got to have just one of the miscellaneous turkey.
Then we got the traditional.
Chicken gills.
Because you didn't see how many of the turkeys this ain't because he grew up in Mississippi.
They ate the turkeys and they ate the turks and they back yard.
They had the turks.
No what I'm saying.
So frying it was just another option.
And then somebody said, we're tired of this.
Somebody said, we're tired of Uncle Bo, the one that's cussed.
We're tired of this goddamn turkey.
And that's when they said, honey baked ham came about.
And then we went crazy over the honey baked ham.
My mom was going to make us eat that ham.
We was going to have turkey, turkey, turkey sandwiches, turkey soup.
Turkey salad?
Yep, yep.
Turkey salad.
It's really good.
And then take the bones and make jewelry with them.
They eat turkey salad every day for lunch at the University of Alabama.
Is that right?
That's a fact.
Turkey salad is really, really good.
Hey, man, he key.
Not after the...
You're sitting, for real, for real.
You got to watch on the Robin Harris DVD at the Comedy Act Theater.
They were talking good shit on them.
For real.
Robin made me...
Everybody, Robin was a master.
All right.
At the Comedy Act Theater, Robin Harris would come.
People would be afraid to go to the bathroom
because the stage is here,
and you had to walk past the stage and go up the stairs to use the bathroom.
Right. He was just firing off jokes.
He didn't care who you were.
So the women would actually land up at the top of the stairs
and wait for him to bring on the next act
because they were scared to come down the stairs.
So Robin would be sitting there like this.
Robert would come off the stage and go up the stairs and do his act
and still tear their asses up just down to their way.
It was such a great, great experience.
And so one day he said,
Maher, you ought to just come on stage and talk about me.
And I ain't going on stage
and talking about Robin Harris.
Right.
One time I came in the club
and he said, Spotlight.
And what the?
Oh, I used to have a little bitty Afro,
teeny weenie, and it was sandy red color.
And he said, look at your head.
Like sandy sheep shit.
Oh.
Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.
And they went crazy.
I was like, I said, look at you sitting there
looking like a razor with eyes.
And somebody said,
Oh, shoot, give a microphone.
Come up here and say that.
And that's how the Battle of the Sex is started.
He made me do it because I never would have went on stage with him.
So, because Robert had one of my favorites, like, being around him, like, what was it?
Like, how did he get himself together?
Because was he liked, I know he was like that off the stage, but, like, how did he just get himself together?
Robin was one of the quickest people I have ever.
Me, I happen to go off to myself, like, okay.
I'm about to go on.
I got to get my head right,
Bob.
Robin could be talking to, oh, shit, I got to go on stage.
And we'll just go on stage,
kill for 15 minutes and come back and pick up the conversation.
Yeah, man.
So what I was saying was, he was just like that.
And when I met him, I had just gone to this club on an off night.
Wasn't nobody in there.
It was a blues night.
And I said, hey, dude, I'm doing comedy.
Can I just tell some jokes why the band took a break?
He said, yeah, sure.
When I finished, this guy came up and said, wow, you was funny.
I'm a comedian, too.
My name is Robin Harris.
I ain't never heard of Robin Harris.
Because for the most part, I'm playing the little white clubs, you know, the improv and blah, blah, blah.
So he said, yeah, get in your car.
Follow me.
Okay.
Go down, follow him.
You know how to hotels give the black people like one night in a room.
Right.
We go into this room, the room about this big, it's packed, black folks.
And the DJ said, oh, shit, Robin Harris in the house and stop the music.
And I looked like, these people about to whoop our ass.
You don't stop the music on the black people.
I don't even know this man.
Robin got up in the DJ booth.
Ain't no stage.
The DJ booth and started firing off jokes.
Bam.
And I had never seen nothing like it.
I was like, who is this dude?
Great.
And that was the beginning of our friendship.
Ms. Myra, Jay, let me ask you this.
Like, what are the younger, like, women comedians when they ask you for advice?
What do you tell them?
Or what kind of advice do you give
the upcoming female community?
To actually, to be true to themselves, first of all,
I know as a woman, it can be even more challenging
than for men, for myself.
They wanted to pigeonhole me, like,
oh, you'll be up there male bashing and blah, blah, blah.
Men, one of the oldest damn vaudeville jokes is,
take my wife, please.
Old-ass joke.
Men have always talked about women.
It's our turn.
Let us be who we want to be, period.
So I just tell them, just be true themselves.
And they have to love it.
They have to love it and be able to love themselves afterwards.
Now, you can go out here and try to do whatever to think you're going to get ahead,
but are you going to love yourself in the morning?
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Remember the movie pass era?
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When you go to France,
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Well, I know for a fact that it's tough when we walk out on the stage.
But we know for a fact that when we see a lady who wants to be.
stage, we know it's much more tough for you ladies, because some ladies won't even laugh
at ladies. So it's got to be really tough. When I started with, shoot, it's been, I'm losing
count, close to 40 years ago. And usually even to this day, it's only one woman on the show.
Check your line of us. You know it is. We see it. We see it. We got one woman. Like, we're the
token, like, okay, let's get the ladies. One woman.
but to walk out on stage.
And we're on the side.
We see the guys are out there killing
and the audience is yucking it up.
And then as soon as the woman walks out,
we see their body language.
And they sit back and fold their arms
and look at you up and down
like, I wish you would make me laugh.
So for many of us,
we have to come out harder in the beginning
and command.
We have to command the audience
and demand the respect.
I have earned the right to be on the stage.
Why you, most definitely, why you take it like that?
Because I even said it to some of the upcoming like young women
comedian like B Simone and the Pretty V's and the Just Nishis.
And I'm like, we're seeing Simone and, uh, uh, uh, Monique,
we're seeing these people kill.
Like, why y'all just want to do a lady show?
The women support women and y'all go crazy.
Like, why y'all just want to get this?
like how us fellas get together?
They do.
They have had all women's shows.
And unfortunately, it has nothing to do with the talent.
They don't sell like the men shows.
And I'm just being honest.
They don't.
Women are coming.
Oh, no, I saw her.
Yeah, but you've seen him five times.
Yeah.
So.
Right.
You know, but bottom line, it's a business.
Yeah.
We appreciate you because, girl, I see a little of you.
Mm-hmm.
Let me finish the story on, first of all, I was right down here.
These two sons of bitches sitting in front of me eating.
The worst host.
This is good, too.
He is stopping.
He is stopping off in the corner.
With sauce and everything.
There ain't no sauce.
He's doing the two fingers.
Stop all up in the corner.
They're really the bad part because it's like,
I don't really need that much, no way.
I'm really hungry now.
So the story, I was going back to the Red Box,
the son, the guy that had my friend of mine
that helped me write my book as two kids.
And one's the boy never identified as.
a boy. So the light bulb went off in my head, ah, what if I do a Sanpenter's son and I had,
like my mom died when I was 16 and I went off to do my thing, whatever I wanted to be,
get to college degree and go to, and there's a reason for everything. There's a reason for everything.
Had my mom lived, I've probably been working at General Motors right of State right here in Atlanta, Georgia,
working on a general, but there's a reason to go off and do your thing. And so
the gist of the story is the plot.
is that I'm like Red Fox on a car wash,
just like in the wash.
But my son at 16, 17, left home,
and went to college and went off to New York
to do his thing to be who he wanted to be.
And I didn't hear from him in 23 years.
I get email and says, Dad, I'm coming home tomorrow.
And I go crazy because I'm the man of the neighborhood,
the man at the church, I know everybody,
I run the city, I'm the black guy in the city.
And I tell everybody, my son is coming home tomorrow.
My son, and Desmond,
is coming home tomorrow.
And tomorrow, I'm sitting there ready to go
and just sitting in my chair
and ding-dong the doorbell rings.
I go to the door, the most beautiful lady
ever seen in your life.
I said, look, lady, you selling Avon,
or you selling a watchtower,
and I ain't buying the day.
What?
She says,
Dad, it's me.
Dad, it's me.
And my first word is,
what the fuck?
So it's some, what happened there is that my son has transgendered, uh-huh, and I, she came back.
Transition.
No, no, no.
Transition.
We got to learn how to say this.
There's a transition in the being transgender.
No, she already who she is, so she has transgendered.
Oh.
But you gotta be careful how you said it, because they give you a whole class at the movie studio on what to say.
What do you call them pronouns?
Yeah.
Because they got a he, she hit a day, uh, um, M-I-S, and they got an M-X, and they got an M-X.
I didn't even know you could be more than one person.
Well, listen to me, you kind of like me, and I tell you what I learned.
I just told them, I don't know what you are, you're you.
I'm fucking talking to you.
You know who the fuck you are, right?
So that's what I went.
But what I learned on the show was that people to live and let people be who they want to be.
So me being an old black man from Georgia, I don't want to stop.
Our dads grew up putting food on the table.
That's all we were supposed to do, not knowing what the kids get into or what they want to be.
But what happened is that after I learned who she is, she come back to live with me because she didn't have a good time in New York.
After she's trying to get me to adjust to some of her something, just like Red Box, said it in my ways, you ain't going to change me.
And she's been up in New York and into her little vegetarian vegan station and smoking all of that.
You know, being a vegetarian, by the way, all you vegans and vegetarian, you're going to die on schedule just like everybody else.
I just want to say that.
But my daughter is Laverne Cox.
Yeah.
So you all know who Laverne Cox is.
That's in the show?
That is the show.
So instead of like Sanford and son,
and Sanford and daughter.
So after I said to the pretty lady.
It still be Sanford and son, technically.
See, now you go with technology.
No.
She has transgendered.
She's not transitioning.
She has transgendered.
So she is now, Dad, I'm your daughter.
And so I got to learn a lot of shit about her life and she learns a lot about mine.
And what I learned is that it's kind of like being black president.
They didn't ever think we could have a black president and we got one and turned out to be the best one.
So I learned a lot on set.
She required that a third of the staff beat from her community.
And I'm an executive producer and I thought, that's fine.
You know, mine.
I got my black people on here.
And guess what I learned a lot?
I had never seen this.
The makeup artists see that she required were someday you can see the makeup artists with a
mustache, lipstick, and a dress and boots.
And you know, my head is not right yet, but I got to learn this.
And so America is going to be educated with me to learn how to live and let live.
And what I really learned was that everybody, no matter what they were into, they were doing
their jobs, producer, executive producer, whatever, designer and set designer, electricians,
the electricians with blue fingernails, whatever.
I learned that let people be who they want to be, be professional, get the job, and
the job was darned really good.
Everybody did their jobs very well, but we have to learn that.
Yeah.
Live and let live.
You do, leave people to fuck alone.
Say that again.
Okay.
I'm looking at that man's teddy.
Ah!
Oh, that's this.
I don't know.
That's a bumper sticker.
That's a bumper.
Put that on a Christmas card.
He's stupid.
He's stupid.
He's stupid.
Right there.
I gotta take that with me everywhere I go.
I gotta play that part.
Stop looking at that man titty.
Or the latest dick.
You're stupid.
You're stupid.
You stop.
What a great time this is been.
I don't know whether we're closing up right now,
but this has been wonderful.
Didn't know what we were.
Y'all are more than welcome to come here.
Now, you know, Arsenia Hall said that to me one night,
that to me one night and I came to next night. I sure as hell did. So I'll be back to
morning. No, I ain't driving down here in this damn track. Fuck y'all. I ain't driving this track
down here. And what part of George, I'm in now? You got to leave that damn bins out there, though.
You like my car? That's a nice car. But you got to leave that. If I come back and y'all have
a heater up in here, y'all notice we all got cold.
He looked like he just came from the North Pole. What the hell? This shit is a lot. This shit is
I don't feel a cold.
That's the real man.
Oh, wait, he just wasn't the heat on.
We get ready to join.
Don't turn that heat on, man.
Don't turn that here on.
Hey, she said like the truck.
They had a cat in here.
He wouldn't even lick himself.
It's so damn cold up in this damn place.
The hell.
I thought he was a statue.
He ain't moved since I've been there.
Because he's frozen.
You know, like, you know, like,
you know, like, you're going to some places.
The Indian just standing there like that.
I thought he was like the Indian.
He ain't said shit, he ain't moved.
How you doing, sir?
And he talked, why you're talking to the microphone?
Look, I'm right in here, talking to me.
That's the crazy part.
We had him on the show for a long time, right?
So we were like, y'all don't never let him say shit.
So we gave him a mic.
He can talk him, ever the fuck he want to.
He just don't say nothing else.
You and him, he just laugh on the mic.
He's like, ha ha ha, ha, ha, ha.
I don't know, look at him.
You can talk to him special effect.
They need to be laugh track.
He's a laugh girl, what a laugh track.
Is he from America?
Yeah, he's from America.
Y'all know where you're from?
Because he can't talk to.
He's from Memphis?
No, Tennessee.
You're from Tennessee?
God.
Well, from Memphis, man.
Not one of the good points.
Not one of the good.
Why are you from?
You said Memphis, right?
No, hell no.
He don't even.
Denmark.
Now, you know that's fucked up right off the back.
A small town named themselves after a whole country.
Yep.
Is Denmark the country?
That's a center.
You just got to know somebody who from that.
Are you like Howard number 19 anywhere near in there, Nutbush?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It's the same right on the right.
Same, nuttush, Nudgebush, city limit.
Look at them.
That's one of the greatest entertainment of all the time.
Yeah, yeah.
You're a reference to the Denmark.
That's good.
Are you really that cold?
I mean, it's like 50 degrees outside.
You got a bulletproof vest on up under that, too.
Yeah, my goodness.
It's crazy, man.
I wanted to ask you, how often do, I know you got the red
in Vegas.
Not anymore, I quit.
You quit?
Yeah.
I had made enough money and I need to get back on the road and reinvent.
You say fuck them?
No, my best friend actually went on stage one night with me and told me that we've been there long enough, let's move on.
Oh.
I want to ask you that too.
I got a lot of question now that we're wrapping up.
Like, who was being your opener or like your feature act the longest?
Or do you just mix it up?
I mix it up.
I mix it up.
Everybody I could use, I must have 36 people that have been.
36 people that have, she came in, Jay came in, just everybody, you could think, any comedian you could think of except him.
I ain't having, Ricky Smile. I brought everybody in. That was in my class that I knew at an early, everybody that worked with us, Mr. Dupree, the young kids today, Ron G. I still use everybody.
Oh, Ron G. You know, Ron G. Yeah. I thought it out in Atlanta at the Twisted Taco.
Exactly. Yeah, and all the young comedians, I still use them today.
Yeah.
That's my job as to get back.
When you popped in at the punch line, when the punch line was on Roswell Row.
Yeah.
Did I meet you guys, actually, when you first started, were you at the uptown?
Absolutely.
I made you at Uptown.
I came in and did a guest set when you guys were killing and I'm going to like,
shit, what am I going to do?
Shit, you was killing.
You popped in and, you know, the pain off that motherfucker.
But you don't know that shit.
You don't know that shit until you get up there.
When you see you young guys up there killing, I'm going like,
this may not be my audience.
All kinds of the shit, go through your head,
People don't know what we'd be going through, you know?
And it's just like when I did Dave Chappelle, Madison Square Guard,
with them, I didn't know, you know, this is over there, I know.
You just don't know.
You just don't know it, because you don't look out a lot of times,
and you probably don't even know that I was in the room,
just around the city when you show up and you buy food for the young comedians
and you kicked it after the show and gave it.
Oh, man, I wanted to make sure that I personally told you, thank you.
I benefited from that.
You bought me a few little burgers and shit.
Then he didn't even know it.
Yeah, he would always...
Then he didn't eat no damn cheese on, I ain't let him put no cheese on it.
I don't act like he's standing, you can't.
He popped in and you was on stage and you was revving, man, he always made sure he looked out, put a couple dollars in.
I love that.
I love giving to the young business.
And then, like, I'm gonna put you on the road and then your ass leave for you.
Hank, yeah.
Hank, yeah.
All of the young communities, I don't know.
All these people are yon know.
Man, these young comedians are fantastic, and I just, I think that's my job.
You know, what's a...
Definitely.
for Springer and Definite, yeah, all of these young ladies,
man, I just, who's opening for me next week
in Oklahoma City, Kalia McNeil.
And I see all these people up in Montreal,
they call it up in Montreal, just for Laude.
My job is to harm.
I can put them on a place to work in Las Vegas,
get on stage, do it.
They wouldn't even let me come over there.
To Las Vegas?
In Montreal.
No, they won't let you come, but they want you.
See what they missed?
Sometimes, maybe it's, you don't need them.
You did it without them.
See, look, if you were real good, I'm just kidding.
Fantastic, man, but it's just great.
Did you just get your name on the wall when all of us just go?
Yes, that was, that was, it's like an honorary through a guy, guy, guy, man.
He was one of the greatest, man, you feel, me.
When he called me up and told me, I didn't believe him.
kept going guy.
Stop playing.
Right.
No.
Why for real?
They're going to put your name on the...
I know.
I know that's iconic.
That's iconic.
That's iconic.
Where's my roommate?
Where is it?
I was like, what?
Yeah, that was...
I was truly touched.
That's why I love the game.
It's like, man, you gotta love the game.
You gotta...
The game so big, like you said, it goes back to Renaissance.
Like, it goes back, like, just hearing y'all's stories where it's like, okay,
I've definitely got to take it most serious.
Now, like, we ain't just got three stations.
Y'all didn't act like you got three things.
Let me say some stupid shit we would do.
You tripping, boy.
We got this in Mississippi, too, because they're way behind.
Right now, they still got black and white in Mississippi.
Hey.
You remember?
You don't like no Mississippi slump.
You don't like no Minnesota?
You didn't do much of that shit, Mr. Wallace.
You got to watch what you say.
You're watching what you say.
Nobody talk about Mississippi.
Talk about Mississippi.
That is fun of me.
You're not going to talk about Mississippi.
That ain't funny when you're talking about Mississippi.
That ain't funny when you're talking about.
about this again.
Hey, boy, don't talk about this.
He turned into a slave.
I said,
Morgan Freeman.
I did it.
Oh, man.
Morgan Freeman wanted to work with him.
Oh, my God.
They told him when he got there, that Morgan, George doesn't like you.
George, why don't like me, son?
I said, because every role I ever went out for, you got it.
And it started with Glory back in the day.
And then he got, shut up.
And they got back in, well, he was going to lean on me.
I could have put Mr.
Lovarge, lock your dogs, lock the dogs,
lock the dogs.
Right.
You know, first we're moving nobody likes that first.
Shai Shankman.
I got to play red.
Right.
And the domain crawled through miles of shit.
Right.
Come on looking clean on the other side.
I could have done that shit.
And he played, what's the man, Nelson Mandela?
I could have talked like this.
And he did.
What about Street Smart Williams?
Yeah.
What about that lady from?
I'm from Atlanta.
Fuck, I know more about Atlanta.
He does.
And so he got all those, that's why I didn't like him.
And then after we sat down and stuck.
The first day of acting.
How old is he?
Not.
Listen, first day of actor, this is Morgan Freeman, one of the greatest actors in the world.
Yes, sir.
They were shooting over his head to me and other actors, and all of a sudden, Morgan Freeman says,
wait a minute, I'm a superstar. I don't have to do this shit.
I've got to stand in.
And I never met the man before.
My first words to him was, Morgan Freeman, sit down and shut the fuck up.
And the police went crazy, and some didn't, because they were scared.
But it was so funny, he was hitting the table with that bad hand.
You know, he got one hand.
can't move. Oh, I'm not doing this shit.
Yeah, and guess what?
Morton Street, he got a hand he can't move?
You know, yeah, he had an accident.
Oh, okay, okay.
But that little girl, right?
He was in a car.
Stop this shit right now.
Stop this shit right now.
You stop this shit right now.
But every day after that
That was his granddaughter.
He stopped his granddaughter.
He stopped with his granddaughter.
Every day after he's talking about my daughter.
He talked about my mama every day.
Every day.
I couldn't believe.
That's nothing but love.
There's nothing but love.
Morgan Pramer.
Great.
My favorite, when he said, when Denzell ran away, and he said,
he was going to get him some boots, sir.
Boy, he needs to shoe.
Well, we have some, and I go to church.
Now you get you bringing up other thing.
And I go to church with two actors that go to church,
the West Angeles Church, God, and Christ.
And then one, sometimes.
One sitting over here, one son down, that's Denzel, Washington, and Samuel Jackson.
And that's great, just, you're talking about great actors,
to be able to just know them and sit there and talk to them.
And we like when Sam come to church, because the preacher preacher,
God damn, and I heard enough of that goddamn prison.
But sometimes you'd be thinking, stand up, Sam, come.
Right.
And, of course, Denzel, but life is so good, man.
You start talking, I should, I'm starting to document.
I'm just starting right now to do some of the things that I've done in life.
and just travel all over the world and we've traveled together South Africa and just make sure you travel us life is so good and documenting and shit you guys tape every night that's pretty nice when you guys on stage that's cool yes sir they didn't even have video cameras when we started travel I just got still pictures of you still got you still got what you call them a track
you'll wind up oh that's what you call the wind up thing you just do oh yeah okay you hit it'll fly you hit it
Yeah, you're right.
Crazy.
But life is good.
This has been a wonderful evening, ladies and gentlemen.
I'd like to say to you and you and you and everybody.
Well, I'm George Loss.
Well, it's been wonderful, ladies and gentlemen.
I will let none of us leave without you.
Oh, look at this.
Thank you.
They all got gifts for us.
Wait, this got a little weight to it, too.
This ain't just a different.
This just ain't a deal with television.
When I do television, I go see the little 85 sauce.
More than one thing?
Wait a second.
Let me ask all those stupid ass questions.
People say stupid shit and do stupid shit.
Why on the show called 85 South, and we drove down 75 South?
That's some bullshit.
Well, you know 85 South, they run together.
I know they run together, but to get here, you got to do what?
75 South.
I don't never go to 75, so I'm an 85 maybe.
You come here on 85?
Yeah, always.
And then what you hit to get here?
75.
Hey, 285.
And then I get right on 85.
That's another good thing about living in Atlanta.
If somebody tell you, they're coming over your house in Atlanta,
And they get on 285, you got a good hour and a half to clean up your shit.
Right.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And if you don't want to go somewhere, y'all use this.
If you don't want to go somewhere like somebody to invite you to a party,
you can call them about 30 minutes before the party starts and say, man,
I'm stuck in this traffic on 285, it ain't moving.
Right.
And they'll believe you.
You do your ass to be at home.
Just do shit like that.
That's my job is to make up shit like that.
Right.
I do shit like that.
Every time I go to Kentucky fried chicken, I tell the manager I was in here the other day.
I ordered a 15 pieces when I got home, that was only 14.
They'll give you another piece.
They'll be like, you got your receipt.
I do shit, like, something wrong with me.
The west side, they had your receipt.
No, they were asking them there.
It was two weeks ago.
Well, I'm sorry then.
You had that 14 piece of chicken, my back.
Oh, Popeye.
Let me tell you something.
Let's talk about Atlanta.
The greatest restaurant in the world, number one.
Y'all know this for sure.
Piccadilly.
But you shut the fuck up.
You know, I went to put that in my dog, man.
I've been to the first Chick-fil-A, I've been there, I used to go there.
I need to play his regular son on the show.
That would be nice, wouldn't it?
Then he'll be nice to say, Bob will you shut the fuck up?
You tell my dad, you say, you ain't have nothing to say when you get ready to die.
Shut the fuck us.
What was I talking about?
Piggins.
Piggily.
No, no, no.
Chick-fil-A.
Chick-fil-A.
Chick-fil-A.
Where do they find these employers?
You ever find to see the employers like Chip-A?
They're the nicest people in the world.
You saturday night you can put up in Chick-fil-A at 945.
Right.
And by the time you get to the window, it'd be 10 o'clock.
Right.
And they will say to you, sir, I'm sorry.
We close at 10.
You can say, but I was.
I was already in line.
Sorry, I'm sorry.
We do close at 10.
You can be mad,
and you were, you stupid, son of a bitch.
And all they will say to you is,
it's my pleasure.
But don't try that shit at Popeyes.
Let me tell you so.
They're ready for your ass at Popeyes.
They're ready to fight.
They got all of that hot grease.
Are they cooking chicken or grease at the Papa?
Oh, no.
I know they dig here.
But they will tell your ass to pull over.
They will come outside and whip your ass with Poppies.
Something wrong with those employees.
And still take your...
And still take your...
and still take your money.
See, this has been a lot of fun.
I'm impressed.
How much you think you can sell this shit for a moment?
You know what? You're selling my shit.
I'm going to buckhead right now.
I got here for a week.
Atlanta, Georgia.
I'm so happy to be here.
85 South.
Ladies and gentlemen, I have so much fun for these two icons.
They're icon now because you're trying to mind.
Absolutely.
Awesome.
Absolutely.
It was an honor and a pleasure to have y'all through here.
You got some tour days coming up.
Yeah, too. You're still on too.
Y'all got to go see.
He does.
Don't look at my paper.
I'm right now a little slow because I'm promoting the show.
I got the website.
The website is, what's name my website?
Just look up George Wallace TV, George Wallace comedy,
George Wallace.com, I'll be thinking.com, all kinds of shit.
I'm on everything.
But it's, I'm going to be on the road.
I'm slowing down now because I've got to promote this new TV show.
It's on Amazon, by the way, worldwide.
And it's already, already translated into,
every language in the world.
So they're expecting something already.
Is that the right word translated?
Yes.
Yeah.
Transgender.
See, that's why I don't like to go somewhere with her.
How are you going to transgender a language?
My.
As LeBurne said to me, girl.
So that's what we're doing now and promoting the movie.
And then we're really going to hit the road again.
And maybe I hope to see you guys out on the road sometime.
No, don't see us. Invite us.
Don't just see us. Invite us.
I have loved.
Didn't I just tell him I love fakers already?
How old were you in your mind just got up and walked away from your ass?
All right.
How about this?
Anytime I'm in the same city as you, I'm pulling up.
And I'm on the show.
Fuck it.
I'm going to tell him that you told me when you came here that I was on the show.
And there you go.
And they're going to tell you your head.
And they're going to say?
I'm going to call my R.J.
Know what they're going to say?
Ticket, please.
With a flashlight, not this way, that way.
Listen, man, 85 South Show, Ms. Meyer-J.
Yes, sir.
We will be in short.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you.
We got to take a picture.
Absolutely.
We got to take a picture.
School in here, DC.
Jump on the couch.
We ain't got to jump on the couch.
You know you still love me.
I love you.
That boy, can't stand your ass.
Ah, come on.
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