The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Goodie Mob in the Trap! with DC Young Fly, Karlous Miller and Chico Bean

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

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Come on, man. Come on, man. It goes without saying. You can look around the room. We got a whole different set up, bro. I don't even want to get no introduction, because I really feel like I'm in the dungeon family today. Somebody needs to introduce us as the dungeon family.

No, man, we got some real A-Town legend in the building tonight. And when I say A-Town legend, I don't mean they just live in the last. Bro, these are some of our musical heroes that gave us that soulful told us when the exact moment when people stop this. Yes, sir. One of my favorite truth is all day. We still stand again. I'm talking about Sesame Street.

I'm talking about we got Silo, we got the Lumberjack, we got part of the ear 14 game. Yeah. It's a lot of me, yeah. The good guy most of the point, yeah. Come on, go, go, come. Yeah!

Come on, man. Let's go. Stop playing. Let's go. Stop playing. Stop playing. Stop playing. We're going to.

Stop playing with tomorrow. Stop man. Come on. We want, man. We've been waiting on this one. What? The street's been asking for this one right here. Cut the intro.

Cut the intro. Cut the motherfucker intro, J-O-N. Now we didn't have, now Gip came through a couple of times and gave us the 4-1. Uh-huh. That the mob come out like, we hit Gip, he was like, just trust me, but I'm bringing the whole everybody. I ain't believe him.

Yeah, he did. Then he came back here, I'm telling you. We come out, like, man, whenever. Now we got you out here in the travel. Got the motherfucking mark. It's the first mark. And that's what we use our platform for, man. It's the show love.

love to people that we love why they can still hear you feel me why they can listen man for real like i know Carlos like i'm a big silo green fan like the rap the you as an emce i wasn't hit to like that loz put me on how raw you were as the emce like all y'all together i know all the songs but like i wasn't as in tune with you know the fact that you really got down like that like my shit is the is the eccentric Celo Green. I know all that shit. Everybody that's grown got scouts at the moment they got hitting away. Yeah, y'all

was thinking that's all that something that's not to say that. That's my shit. We'll pull over with your girl fuck something in the back of the car. I'm a freak. I'm so exciting. I'm so excited. Y'all. And then came to him. So, like, being as though

y'all came up together, my first question is, like, did y'all ever? How did y'all get to know what each person's style was to make it fit? Because this is an amazing conglomerate of talent. So how did y'all make that work? With all due respect, I got to direct that question to these two gentlemen right here because they are the founders of Goody Mah. This begins with these two gentlemen right here.

Kudjo Goody O-G-G-T-M-M-Goo-Goo-Goo-Goo-G. Give them a brief, a brief. synopsis of how this thing started, sir, please. Well, you asked about like how we came up with like the style. Yeah, how y'all make it all work, because, you know what I mean?

Man, I mean, really, man, I just think that man, all of us wanted to, you know what I'm saying, put Atlanta on the map, man, at the time because you know what I'm saying, we was influenced by niggas in New York, you know what I'm saying, the West Coast, you know what I'm talking about Texas, all those type of folk, man. We was influenced by Cyprus here, all those type

of people. So, then the type of people that we listen to man you know what I'm saying coming up in hip hop so I can I can remember me and Timo listening to naughty by nature all the time listening to cyphus hill listening to god damn cue and just getting our skills together man just homing everything together man then we fought around and made the first goody mark song called it's a goody mark thing you wouldn't understand you know what I'm talking about it never did came come out and that was produced by my partner um edX right camp out so that was our first goody mob song so you know what I'm saying we was fucking around got there had some songs together man and we were looking for some some more tracks so we pulled

up at the dungeon you know i'm talking about fucking we got damn rico wade and got them got there ray murray got damn sleeping brown start getting some more tracks so we started got that home and our skills even more coming to the dungeon because then niggas just felt like man this is what we gonna do nigga ain't fin to get no job you know what i'm saying nigga ain't ain't finished play football so shit man let's gonna see what's going down man then we fucked around and got on that Southern Player Listed, Cadillac Music, man. Well, I don't care now. So me and Timo was on, Colorado the Wilder,

give up, get out, and get something. But, shit, we were still, we'd been grinding in the trenches, so we was just waiting on our time to step up. You know what I'm talking about, waiting on our time to get our uniform out to lock and get that shit dirty. Okay. That's kind of like what it was, you feel what I'm saying?

So we was influenced by everybody, man. The whole hip hop, man. It was just time for Atlanta to stand up, man. It just so happened. The ball jumped in our court, bro. Get up and get out with it. The first CD I ever had. Whoa.

First CD I ever had. I got the CD player for Christmas. We stopped right here at the West End Mall, and I ran up in there, and that was the first CD I got. You know, this one, the single was about $8. Right, right. Because it had the original, the clean version, the instrumental. Then it had an acapella on that.

The motherfucker had six tracks. I mean, when we was young at the West End Mall, they had the Sunshine Department store. You remember that? Yeah, yeah. The Sunshine Department store had Sears, the big Sears and Robuck over there. Yeah. I was just going to say, man, the way we make it work is that, you know, we all just got a real mutual respect for each other. You know what I mean? And allow each other artistic creativity, you know what I mean? Just as me and as our creators and as artists, you know what I mean? And we're really true to that. We're that first. You know what I mean? And I know sometimes we're too much of that. So that's why we got to balance with having good managers in place. You know what I'm saying? We're having good producers in place, like organized noise. and other people that we work with you know what I mean so the way that's it's just really like a natural type thing with us it's it's natural it's organic so even though y'all was the OGs what made y'all embrace the young ones and be like you know what let's turn this into a group situation well really on that to be honest with you man I don't like the makeup stuff because it's hard to remember the lie but um the truth is he and burke you know what I mean we we were all featured on our cast first record Southern player listed and

everybody was just hot and ready to go, you know, we were ready to put our music out. You know, me and Kujo had already recorded 18 songs then, you know, and Gil and Sealo were working, you know, Gip was with East Point Chain Game, we're ready to do some solo. Seelow was DJ Win, you know, and DJ Win, and we, and Tyrus McClure, so he was grinding doing stuff. He was ready to bust, you know what I mean? So to make it really work, he and Burke came to us and was like, you know what? why don't y'all just all come up under the goody mob umbrella get in the door with that and then you can kind of break off into whatever instances that y'all got going as far as the lumberjacks me and kujo goody uh seelo green is a solo artist give us a solo so long so it was already pre-plan in the beginning you know what i mean we already had the idea that everybody wanted to do their own thing one day but we were going to come in and sign the deal and get the deal and get the relationship built off goody mob what it felt like moving back as the mob again in 2021 Is it just like picking up where you left off and just finding this strad?

I think it was just more of a more of a concentration this time because we felt like we was in a pandemic. It was the first time all of us been home in a long time. First time all of us being able to get in the studio organized noise. And I think we took our conversation there was on the phone and just started putting in the music. Once we did that, I think that it was just like riding a bus. It was just like riding a bike because we had a real, we had a, at the end of the day, during the pandemic, cell therapy, all of a sudden just started growing as a song. Because it was like people started going back and looking at the actual lyrics and studying the song and saying, man, y'all brought this information 20 years ago, and it's now we're actually living in the pandemic. So with that being said, it was like, after that, it was like, let's finish these songs, put them out and see where we're going to go with this.

But this time, we had an actual target. the pandemic the way we was living i mean what was going to be the new world this is the new world we living in so with that being said it gave us an actual a plane to work with where actually we probably didn't have a target before then you know what i mean and i think that right now the world with the world being that we was all locked in our house i think this was the only time that i think it was supposed to happen like this this was when goody maud was supposed to come back because it was like it was a need for goody model. We just came out tour, too.

So we were still goddamn lit. Y'all still was going out together. They were still ready, man. I mean, shit, bro. I mean. Yeah, we had that third leg of that tour that was defaulted because of the pandemic. Man, we had just got invited to the NASCAR event where Bobba Stewart was coming with Richard Petty. And they invited us to come down to the pit man and everything.

And that particular event was the beginning of the pandemic. They canceled that, and that was it for NASCAR. I let you know how deep y'all run there. Everybody's y'all to a NASCAR, man. The NASCAR, man. The NASCAR, we need it. Who's that peeking in my window? Pipe.

Who's that? Who's that at the door? Hey, it was our 25 year anniversary, too, man. That would be the who? 25 years. So, man, we got to have some new music for our fans, man. And, like, we really never stopped writing, man. I never stopped putting music out.

You know what I'm saying? It's just been on the independent, on the dialogue. You feel what I'm saying? Because of the major record labels, man, we ain't really fucking with them no more like that. And why is that? What experiences, Ben, you know, it's a bunch of new artists out here now.

What advice or experiences if y'all had to make you make that statement right there? I mean, just on and more of your material. That's what I say. There it go. On and more of your material, man, and don't be so eager to sign shit, you know what I'm saying? Right. Don't be so eager to sign shit.

shit man get a lawyer to look over that shit for you man and keep your publishing you feel what I'm saying we did that you know I'm talking about dealing with the face records that's one thing about them they educated us on a lot of shit you know I'm talking about they put us in interview classes man so we knew what type of stuff to say in front of the cameras and what not to say in front of the cameras you know what I'm saying but like right now man shit it's open season man with streaming and everything you're just about say what you need to say you know I'm talking about no not then yeah so so even being in

that in that dungeon family area, like, because niggins don't understand. Niggas don't think they can, like, being in that atmosphere where everybody is at this one location. How was that just being around all this musically, like, talented motherfucker? Man, that shit would like resident camp to be, bro. You know what I'm saying? No mama, no daddy didn't tell you what to do. You ain't got to worry about going to sleep.

Man, we stayed up all night, you know what I'm saying? Listening to tracks, man. Tracks might be on repeat all night long. they wake up track still going you know what I'm saying rap playing off in your head you know what I'm talking about we couldn't really record down there but shit we honed our skills up in that motherfucker you know what I'm saying so man it was good being around niggas from southwest Atlanta niggas from east point I'm from northwest Atlanta you know what I'm saying then we coming together and just man just comparing notes man just comparing how you saw life you know what I'm saying from from your point of view and we were still like

in our 20s you know what I'm saying 26 or shot of what 23 you know what I'm So we were some young southern pioneers, man, getting this shit out of the ground, you know what I'm saying? Putting this on our back, we're outcast, you know what I'm saying? I wanted to ask y'all this, as a collective, as the group, when y'all came in contact with that book, that Behold of Pell Horse, the impact that it had on everybody. Like, like you said, I want to hear from everybody, you know, point of view. Like, you remember that when that moment happened? Absolutely. We've been talking about it as late, man.

And just re-addressing it. But let me see, man. Was it, was it DARP? Was that DARP? So what was we doing there? TLC, okay. So, you know, and Buster-R-I'm doing whatever they're doing next door. And, you know, just faithfully he would just kind of come by and say, like,

your brother's slug me, like, I just want to pass on some, you know, some good information. that could be of use. You feel me? Like, you know, he was just really, really, you know, a gentleman, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, and, you know, we was always big fans of his, too, so I was like, damn. I mean, like, okay. And I forgot how I ended up going to whatever order, but, like, Big Roole, who's our resident, you know,

spiritual advisor and fucking philosopher, you know what I mean? Like, of course, it's only right that he'd get the book first. I mean, like, he interpreted and so on and so forth. So you're talking about three or four hundred pages worth of reading and shit, man. Like, so it's 12 or 13 of us living over there at the time. So he got it first. Everybody was patient for that time. And I mean, like, and everybody was eager, you know, for the information because

Buster Rahm had already endorsed it. You know what I mean? It's the way that he, it's the way that he presented to us. I mean, just really, you know, like, you know, I was really intrigued about, you know, about it. I mean, so, so, you know, we would go, we would do intervals over there. And I mean, like, you know, I would live over there for maybe two weeks straight and then go home and shower.

you know what I'm saying come back you know what I'm saying so like I remember taking a book home with me and reading it while I was away and then bringing it back you know what I'm saying like I can passing it on but like that was it though man we was young and just kind of just like just just like just you know seeking the knowledge I mean

hell yeah can I say what the book about yeah what is about what is about I thought you was gonna tell I'm so intrigued now. This book.

This is a tax book, right? The book is called Behold a Pale Horse. And I don't even know if it's still in print, you know what I'm saying? Yes, it is. Yeah, William Bill Cooper. Yeah, they did. They did. So it was just foreseen, you know, like, you know, like, you know, current events like, you know, vaccines, you know, pandemics, quarantines,

marking, you know, chipping and things in that nature. or so, you know, plagues and so on and so forth. So it's almost like, you know, when it's so post-dated, like it's almost like conspiracy theory, you know what I mean? And so you look at it almost like

it's reading like a Stephen King novel. It's like it's horrific, you know, like it's terrifying. It's like shit, like this shit can really happen. So we would just, you know, I mean, that was the inclination. I mean, like, you know, like, you know, like, you was just new information

that we were just excited about. You know what I mean? Like, and I just think, you know, even before that, like, I got, the book of my mother and father were ministers and since I have that background, around, you know, guilt, you know, so like, you know, was a member of the nation of Islam, you know, so, you know, we were already bringing, you know, and then, of course,

and then we were just men, you know what I'm saying, like, you feel me, and one thing about it is, I feel like we were, we were mature enough, you know, say, even about adolescents to be, have a deeper sense of significance and appreciation for the opportunity and the people around us, what I mean, like, because how this all happened is we all knew each other from different places, like, I mean, like, these guys went to, they graduated together with a high school together, you know what I'm saying, you know, and they graduated with my sister, so my sister grew up with them, you know what I mean? It was in their class, so, but um, I grew up with Moe, you know what I'm saying? Like, Moe, I know Moe, I know most is

nursing school, but he's like three years older than me, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know what I'm saying? And I've known 103, under 3,000 since elementary school. We went to, we were in third grade together, we went to Sarah Smith Elementary, you know what I'm said? So it was, it was dope. I knew that it was something really significant and special about us being brought together because we knew each other from different places. You know, like I had just, I hadn't seen Dre since elementary school. We end up bumping back into each other going to Frank McLaren alternative school in College Park, which is a school for dropouts or, you know, people who have children or women, you know,

I mean, you know, like trying to go back and get there, you know, whatever. So that's what it was. I mean, so me and Dre had both dropped out of school. I hadn't seen him since elementary school. You know, we just, you know, rebonded, you know, just by talking about music. We was fans of Tribe Called Quest and Das Effects and they kind of shit at the time. So blah, blah, blah, blah. So that's how that shit happened, you know what I mean? And I introduced him, Kujo mentioned DJ Winner earlier, God bless the dad. You know, I started with a group called GA Style. I mean, like, you know, but he did Outcast's first demo because I introduced to them.

Excuse me, I introduced them to him. And so anyway, we went to school one day. They came up back up there one day. He was like, yo, dude is cool, but we met some other dudes. Like, you know, he was talking about organized noise. And I was like, I'm like, you know, like, that's dope. What I mean? Damn, man.

I get the rambling, man. I'm going to say a long story, bro. I'm going to try to forget it. I'm, my bad man. No, no, fuck this. You could have said anything. Then we stopped, got some chicken. It was cool.

I was about to ask Gibb if you know how I make bean pads. I'm excited. So look, man, so check this out. Check this out, right? So, B and J.D. Killer B and King J.D. they were the homies

there was the hustlers out of the neighborhood and so we all went to high school together me and Kujo we didn't battle each other but we had a cipher out of mutual friends named Glenn Cook O.G. Cook, he just came home

there 12 years man Welcome home, okay. Welcome home. Working home. But anyway his house was the thing to do in high school, you know what I mean? Like, you know The palace. So it's always you know, stacks and stacks

and cases of beer and you know B, the whole shit. So we go over there and get drunk and get the brawling and, you know what I mean, and, you know, fucking talking shit and rapping and shit like that. So anyway, that's what we, that was every day, you know, over his crib. So anyway, I had heard Kujo to come rap, Koojo and T. Through Killa B, he was, he was the hustling in the neighborhood, but he ended up being my manager.

So he had their demo, man, God damn. That's real. That's real. That's right. You're the type of calling, Nicky, be like, I'm talking to you. Go ahead, Nicky, you got me on the phone, Nick. I'm just trying to, I don't know if y'all want to talk about some specific shit. You just want to know.

Niggin, this shit is beautiful. This is history, nigga. Diggins don't know this shit. Nicky don't know this how y'all came about. All right, so check this shit out. So, they stand in there, got them, gudel legend, you know, street legend, you know. You know, and I'm on the way up making a name for myself, too.

You know what I'm saying? So there was the Lumberjacks. He played it for me. So when I ran up on them, Joe said, I heard you can write. I said, I heard you can rock. I'm saying, like, you know. But Joe was also got them voted most attractive in high school. So my sister, you'd be like, ooh, really name.

Watch out, man. Wait a job. Pretty boy floyd, man. Y'all gonna find that yearbook from his flag. Pretty boy float, man. They're gonna find it. They're gonna find that shit. Pretty boy floyd, man. So I had already heard of the legend of Willie Knight, you know what I'm saying?

Like, not only was he like... He was infamous, man, but he was infamous, but a real brawler on top of that. So it's like, damn. You know what I mean? So, anyway. Who won the battle, me? It won no battle, though. We just kind of went back and forth.

and forth. Just like a showcase. Well, yeah, I guess because we, I mean, this is a big dog, like we, we just, it was just hood shit. Okay. You feel me? Like, we're all friends. Everybody from high school, it's a cut party or something, like we're coming from somewhere.

Yeah. So it was just like, back then this one got them DJ Quick album, we're banging. Born and raised. And calmed. But it was that instrumental that it's called Quick Groo. Oh, yeah. Boom. We just put that up the other day.

You just did it. Yeah, you're a G. Yeah. So we rapped over that. Okay. That's a hard-ass album. I might do this shit in segments, man. Like, somebody will talk, man.

Go ahead. So Joe, y'all battle it, right? Joe, take it from that. You don't remember this shit. Yeah, we battled over the quick instrument, man. Yeah, we battled over the quick instrumental, man. And I think I remember Gitt was there, man. And that was the first time we seen somebody kind of rap and singing.

kind of rap and sing at the same time you know what i'm saying so i think later on man we took a trip to the dungeon man and um that's when everybody just started corralling together you know what i'm saying but like you were saying with the uh with the pale or the white the white horse or whatever name of that book was behold a pale horseman back in the 90s man you know people was just getting introduced to you know what i'm saying new information you know at the time you know what i'm saying that you didn't really hear no type of information like that coming out of atlana you know know what I'm saying you kind of really heard with like like a strip club music you know what I'm saying underground gangster music you know what I'm saying like hard boys and

Sammy Sam all that type of stuff so you really wouldn't hearing that type of stuff coming out of Atlanta but when we got a hold of that book and then we got to hold the other information about the New World Order back then it was like VHS tapes out you know what I'm saying like now all you got to do it go to Google and just type that shit in you can pull it up so it wouldn't really like that back in the 90s when we was coming out it was just VHS HHS tapes that I was over some girls house man and they they was just looking at some stuff on a VHS tape and I was sitting down just writing some raps or whatever I think later on that day we're supposed to been going to the studio or whatever but so that shit just bled off into the into what I was writing then went to the studio organized noise had the cell therapy track playing that's like well shit man shit man's like what shit man's shit man we got damn fuck with that shit for a minute so that cell therapy came on then we had that hook came from a long time ago with me and Timo was doing the Lumberjack thing man like pile nobody now who's that peeking in my window but that was like some real kind of like gang of shit man and they just let slide you know what i'm saying so the niggas didn't really

know what the face didn't really know what they had man you know what i'm saying until they really soaked in that these niggins from the south talking about some new world or the shit you know what i'm saying some behold a pale horsemanship you know what i'm saying let's talk them guys see what they know and that beat man that's one of the best beats ever i don't know that's top five beats and hip-hop and bing-p-d-d-d-thin it's like what I'll be so high you know my favorite part is a little shit they'd be like that's cold man so yeah man do you know I make Bing Pan no I don't I mean I was gonna ask you to make me one them shit is good I never got to that you never got to that deep into it I was I was brought in by Conrad

Muhammad so I was kind of rolling with the gangster oh yeah you know what I had two uncles in the nation to Islam man so I know how serious it was I was kind of rolling with him doing that time and it was serious during that time because that was the time that he kind of like we're going at it with the nation so it's kind of like I got brought into it where I had to choose the side and once I had to choose the side I just say hey I'm gonna let music be my god so as far as being in the nation when I when I got in the nation cool lace was my teacher cool lace was a teacher in the Mars and I went to the Mars so I asked

Street. Brother Tony who run in LA, that was my teacher then. That was who were running the monster in the West End. So for me, like, the nation taught me discipline. I used to go to school there a day with my nation outfit on. I used to have silver rings on on every finger. And I just thought that it was just, at the time, like, it was just giving me a way of not thinking, like, how I was taught. I think that was the first time in my life I started saying, I'm a rebel against what I taught, what I was taught as a child. So that's when I started getting them little books. I mean, I'll start bringing the books around my bit mom.

And I'd be like, Bill Mama, hey, man, what, uh, what Santa Claus got to do with toys? And she'd be like, well, you better get out here with that wood of shit. So it was like, that kind of shit. kind of like I ain't into that but I start saying if you ain't into it it's something about it mm-hmm it's true to it and it was like even when I started thinking about Valentine and what an egg got to do with a rabbit you know I started just thinking about this just started making sense I was like wait a minute now somebody gave me so when I started going to Alabama talking to my other

grandmama I was like shit I can't eat no pork no more she was like you don't want your pig ears no more I was like shit, I can't eat them no more. Elijah Muhammad said, that ain't good no more. And she was like, who are Elijah Muhammad? And my thing was, anything that they rebelled against, I were drawn to. So the story and the structure, first of all,

when I found that Elijah Muhammad was from Georgia, that was something to follow. But the first book they gave me to study was, Eat to live? Yeah. Yeah. Eat to live. Yeah.

I never heard that before. I never, I never, I was never taught that information before. And then when I read the Malcolm X book, that turned me out. Yeah. I had to read that shit when I was a little boy. My uncle Erd gave me that book. Eat once a day. That's it.

Like, and it's so much information in it I advise anybody to read it, but just the way that they used to run their program was so crazy. Like they'd go out and work all day. be out all day and then they'll come home and the women will have the meal prepared for the day and that would be the only meal that they ate and that's just how it worked and it was you only eat from what your woman cook you only eat from what the family cook you're all and just one time per day there's all water eat the lid what about drank water yeah all water i said we can drink water that's it yeah that's it i'm gonna do the other shit that needs water got damn you know what I mean all day long outside spreading the word trying to get them that scene from Malcolm X and they're

standing on them ladders preaching that's what they would do all day and then they would come back at the end of the day and all the women will have a meal prepared for everybody so you know as always man like you you become the product of the environment you know I mean and we we recorded soulful and Curtis Mayfield's home studio we didn't even know that he stayed in the neighborhood so but then you know close in the immediate family was you know sleepy Brown's father, Jimmy Brown from the group, Brick. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? I ain't even know that.

Brick was the niggins, goddammit. So that's him playing the flute. You know, on Dad's. Boom, boom, boom, boom. There I go. Dad's crazy. Just a little chickie little cat. Can I'm about to put his gangbanks shit off.

That's the West Coast gang bang. See no Jr. right now. You know what I'm saying? So listen, man, we literally had living, Legends, you know what I'm saying? Because Curtis Mayfield was still alive and we were in there, you know, we were around when he was doing his last album, you know, honorable mention of Cool A's because he produced his last album, New World Order. You know, you see how you make the connection there. His last living album was entitled New World Order, Curtis Mayfield. And we did our album, our debut album in his home. You know what I'm saying? He gave us some good game. He said, what he was telling Kool-Ace, he was like, hey, you know, you got to learn the other tricks of the trade of the industry, man. Like, I know, I know you you want to be an artist and I'm not saying that you're not a good artist I'm so like but everybody can't be an artist I mean like so you know in this industry you know you have more you know more tries and attempts than successes he says so you know and every try and attempt

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You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? That's that, I mean, that's awesome. I mean, like, that gives us a license to do just about anything we could imagine. Right. You don't always have to be a part of your environment, but you're being a product of your imagination. Right. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I think you embody that, man. No, I try. I try. I succeed, man, quite often. You make, like, that, you know, that I fell in love with was just, you know, you know, like, you're my kind of people is one of my favorites. Yeah. We're going to drink good.

We're going to smoke good. The interior is all oak wood. You know what I mean? It's like the freedom that you chose to jump because nobody, I don't really remember. I mean, I don't really remember. did it a little bit with the outfits and stuff, but just the whole jumping out there saying, I'm going to do what I want to do. Like, where did that come from? Well, you know, there's a saying that says, well, I said, this is my saying. They go ahead. If you get somebody else to

say it being people saying that goes. It goes, well, you know, you know, niggas not scared of fucking death. The niggas ain't scared of AIDS. They ain't scared of jail. They ain't scared of COVID-19. But one thing the other niggis is terrified about is other niggas opinion. Damn. Ooh. Nigger won't get out of bed if the niggas say getting out of bed

ain't cool, right? Right, you know what I'm saying? But if you can defy that for a moment, God's promise it's on the other side of that decision. Oh, like, let me ask you about this since you brought it up,

brought like niggas be scared or other niggas of parents. You know what I'm saying? Let me ask you about the nigger experience one of my favorite tracks. Mm-hmm. And it's like, you know,

it's like on some other shit what it's like what a nigga do what a nigga does what the nigger is what a nigger was and the nigger than red history yet his eyes didn't see the only reason you a niggins somebody else wants you to be where the niggated integrated singing we shall overcome a nigger trying to be white as what it seemed like a nigga had become you call me a niggins in my face can't do nothing but walk away but here it is other niggins the area they're dividing and conquering when they say the black okay but after the middle class they're passing by the projects

laughing at where we stay. Since then the niggas I got grown, had a little bit of my own. She had a little bit of my own. She didn't want to be the clubs as fresh as I can be. But really, it's all for another nigga to sleep. And you know how a nigga get. Would you see another nigga outfit?

Don't want nobody to hell. Well, he ain't got somebody get drunk, get mad, get shot. That's why the property value ain't no good. In a nigga neighborhood. A nigga could understand if they own it. I'm sick of line. I'm sick of glorifying dying.

I'm sick of not trying. I'm sick of. It's a nigga. This is a niggins at home. Like, why they only talking to each? Justin said to this dream that she said she felt lead. I need his wisdom from this little books and a great deal of the black man's downfall. It's not knowing that we were never niggas at all.

Woo. That shit goes. But you don't want to hear the truth. Oh, she looked deep into my eyes and said, brother, don't you know. You complain about being black. When they don't want to be black, well, they don't want to be black. Well, they're mad because they can't be black no more. That's it.

Mm-hmm. You complain about being black because they're mad because they can't be black no more. Yeah. No, man. We got away. We got away with it. And I got to acknowledge each and every equal in this room. You know what I'm saying?

You feel me? There's something, there's a synergy. There's a solidarity. You know what I mean? Like there's something very unique and special about what we were able to acquire, you know, as a collective effort. It wasn't intentional. It wasn't deliberate.

We were comfortable enough to be ourselves because we knew each other from other places. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? That's what it was. You know what I'm saying? And organized. you know their their governing was liberal I'm saying you know they didn't stop us and plus we came in with stripes I'm saying you feel me our stripes

endorsed you know I mean like in empowered their whole situation we came in with street stripes so like they weren't in a position of where you know what I'm saying like oh their that their attitude wasn't that they needed to correct this on anything you know what I'm saying so let's say for like for of example me being and Dre are the little brothers we are the same age You know what I'm saying? You feel me? So, but I'd be running with the O'Gs, you know, my whole life, you know what I mean? So, you know, with that, you know what I'm saying? They was kind of being, you know, curated, shaped, and molded, you know what I'm saying? But we were way up, we've been off the porch. Yeah. We're good at my, you know what I'm saying, you feel me? And it was dangerous what we were doing.

Right. We didn't realize it. We didn't realize that we would be forefathers, you know what I'm saying? You know, at some point later, you know what I mean? But, you know, our persistence and insistence, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, and our patience and our patience and our patience and our patience and trust. with the process is just like playing parenthood you know what I'm saying you feel me

like we wanted to do music that we grow old gracefully and still perform to this day you know with dignified you know what

I'm saying it's one goody mob song that don't never get brought up which one me and I watch all the interviews

y'all do beautiful skin and it's like it's one of those you know it's one of those paying tribute to the black women

but nobody ever bring us up and I think it's one of the hardest goody mob song like give me the vibe Give me the room. Like, how did that come about?

We was early on that. I know. We were so early on that. Craig Love did, that's right. Yeah, he did. Craig Love is a homie out of the neighborhood, man, talented and individual. Mays High School. With the Mays High School.

Greater, you feel me? Yep, you already know. Yeah, you all the time when, shit, Tupac was doing the song. Dead Mom. Yeah, yeah. So I think, man, we was just, shit, being from the South, you know what I'm saying? You love your father, you know what I'm saying? To death and you love your mother, you know what I'm saying?

So it was just paying. So it was just paying hummish, man, because there wasn't nobody doing that, man. So many niggas were disrespecting women at the time, you know what I'm saying? And at the time, man, we just wanted to give black women, man, they flowers, you know what I'm saying? Especially from us. Like you said, man, that shit lasted, man, 25 years. So niggas can't say that we were disrespecting black women back at that time, man. We was definitely, man, uplifting them.

Oh, we were early on that, yeah. A lot of love. We were on the face records, man. They went for letting us come out with no bull or shit, right? Yeah, you made that point that other day in the interview. You made me, it dawned on me that we, yeah, man, we was on, we were signed to an R&B label. Yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, coming around record label like death row.

Yeah. Those niggas was coming through there, man. Those niggas was on fleak. Yeah. You know, coming in that, niggas was never keeping secrets. You niggins of that big rapping by the streets. This one thing in the next studio, never keeping secrets, you were in the best. So how would that?

How would that keep your shit, that's joke? You know, just it looks furious. I mean, it was dope because you got to see another side of entertainment up close. Like, you got to see L.N. Babyface up close. You got to see the difference between rap and R&B and the money difference. You got to see the way Usher got treated, TFC got treated, Tony Braxton got treated. Like, you know, to go on them family trip from them and be around those types. groups at that time it was just like it gave us a lot to look at that other groups

couldn't see so that's why we we had to make sure that the songs that we talked about was at a certain level the music was at a certain level because I the label we was on we couldn't brain holes ain't shit in them yeah no not when the nigga don't want to keep no secrets in the next studio no never meant to lie to you you can't call her a bitch no She's not a bitch today. It's not today, my nigga, in no way. That's crazy.

That's crazy. But you know what? I think that y'all's so mogul because, once again, you know, they always talk about us being country. I always think we're slow. I always, they think we're just the slowest are the slowest, you hear me. But y'all brought a whole intellect side. You feel what I'm saying? Even though the book was the book.

You know what I'm saying? Because you got niggins who didn't even know nothing about the book. You feel what I'm saying? It's the way y'all was coming, and y'all did. and what y'all said it was like oh these niggas ain't just no country right because like gibb came in on dirty stuff like he was reporting live from the news now the boys on the low got them boys on their back what else happened right right right they didn't get track oh yeah man tell me about that mutant mind frame that was uh that was we we were one-footy and one foot out

doing them time man we was uh you're moving in delo guild was you was doing in half school you was trying to follow coojo over there in dizzy hill i was working uh i was working camera the road car wide you know what i mean shoo man we were six down man some of that We got you. We got you. That one and six. Look. That one and six the hours.

That's right there. That's what I'm going to do. You know what I mean? You at school, when you're still in your day of the car, man? Man, I'm trying to travel in day of the car, man. You remember them day? I took the truck, man. Then he came back.

You don't know what, busing up in the driveway. And he's standing up with the hands on the hill like this. Give it my car. You know you fuck. But not. But, no, it was just them times. We was all still in. Everybody was still working, and we were still, we were still, we were still doing a lot of shit that we weren't supposed to be doing.

But me, I had, I had, I was working in a warehouse. I was going to half school, an MLK behind the goddamn, the church in the plowl, you know what I mean, in the corner. And it was just like, shit, we're going, we still got to get to the money, though. Because got down Dixie Hill down there, Jodden. Right. So it was like, I'm going. Look at Joe. But you know, but look.

All that shit were going on, man. All this shit was going to go with Jodda, man. I hear y'all creeped through the window, but I'm going to take the block. Now, everybody got them double dribbling, man, you know. So like Rico opened up his door, excuse me. Like, Rico Wade, man, one-thirty y'all, mighty OMP, organized North Production Truth. Man, shout out the Sleepy Brown and Ray Murray. aka Yoda, you know what I'm saying?

But anyway, he opened up his doors, his home, man. He doesn't mean, like to, you know, to a wretch like me. You know what I'm saying? You feel of it? So, you know, shout out to the big bro, man. He just had a birthday recently, too, man. So much, you know, we go on. Happy birthday, Lee. You know.

Yo, they don't make him like him no more, man. I mean, like, you know, open up his doors, open up his home. I mean, like, you know, everything that's sacred and pure and private, man. He gave it to us to share it with us, man. you know when the niggins was coming over there broke and like I said man we was living over there two weeks at the time not showering shit like that you feel me like you might go get one big box

of Miss Winner's chicken with a big gallon of sweet tea man and feed everybody man or like a hundred piece of Mojo's you know chicken wings you know you know I'm talking about this hoods nah hell not but I want some you know what I'm saying so it's a love thing man it's a devotion thing

you feel me like we really got down for each other. You know what I mean? We really got down. So when you y'all realize, nigger, we are there. This is it? What's saying to you? Hmm. Coming from the hood, being nigger from the hood, like, we did it. I probably say, man, that we presented at the Soul Train Awards for the first time. When we seen, uh, P. We seen Tupac and Shug and all them, man. That, that, that felt like, man, Y'all know that scene when on the movie where Pock and Big run up on each other.

They jumped out to Hummel. We got on fatigue. We were standing right now. Standing right there. Right now. Right now. I really wanted to be in good in mind like that, for real. Damn.

Man, I'll tell you the story on that. We used to perform a lot at the spot car warehouse, man. Right. That's kind of where hip hop really kind of originated in Atlanta, the city of Atlanta. That was really the only outlet where people were going. They were kind of had like an Oprah mic. type of thing going on on Friday night, every Friday night, pass the mic contest. So me and Joe used to go down there, and then, you know, we kind of made our way through

that, made our name through that way. I said, had one, one event where we battled against Gip and his group on the East Point Chain Gang game. We didn't even know it's going to be like that. We just went, we signed up, and then we got there, we were like, hold on. And they go get up there. They go, all right, shit, what's up, y'all. Y'all performing, too?

She went up there. She was like Beach Street, one. Yeah. Yeah, we got it rocked that thing. He rocked that thing. And it came down. And it's funny, it came out of us two groups. You know, anyway, when we won that one, give it.

We won that one. We got that we give it. But it was all good, man. That's what the family came together. But anyway, man, right after that, Goodymark came together, and we performed them together as a group with all four of us. And his publicists, two-part publicists, came up to me. me after the show and she was like yo Tupac trying to get with y'all and i didn't believe her you know

i'm like man who is this like who are you i don't know you know i ain't ever seen you with pop before like i didn't say that but that was kind of the energy i was giving right and uh she came at me and she was like no no um i got real information on him you know he's at clinton something so then i was like okay you know what you're talking about what so i said well what he's trying to do she's like you know he just wanted to get with y'all and just kind of talk to y'all he just trying to figure out how to get up out of jail right now. So I was like, you know, I ain't got no money to get him out of jail. I was like, damn, bitch, doll, you know.

He's got no money in the club, ain't much. Meanwhile, get over there like, shit, we get all some of that men. You know what I'm talking about that? It was a million dollars to get him out. Straight cab. Yeah. Then get them all up first. Okay.

And fucking up. I love that, though. I love that though, man. We, we, our legacy is, you know, attached to his, man. You know what I mean? Like, we was in the company of that greatness, man. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah.

Speaking of Atlanta, like you said, like Flats said, Atlanta wasn't known for being the type of guys that y'all displayed. Like, what was it like when y'all started hitting the road and going to these different cities as a goody mob? You know what I mean? It's what Gil said the other day, man. He was just saying how, you know, that was the era before internet, all this shit

you know what I'm saying you feel me cell phones with cameras any of this shit you know I mean so we weren't seeing niggas until we saw them you know what I mean and we was the first to go

that's hard that's great I'm saying like yeah and represent I mean like so like I think the first time like the whole hip hop

community came together was that one of those one of those first maybe that second or that third source awards where uh was sure you know

you know the famous quote yeah but we was out there we was right there as you know is that the same one with Dray said yon. Yeah, that's the same one. That's the same one.

That's a lot. Man, that shit was lit. It was lit. The energy was thick. And I'm going to tell you, like, if y'all remember the clip when Snoo was like, y'all don't love, y'all, y'all don't love a dog. You seen that police baton they had. All the niggas had the batons.

They whole crew, they were 50 deep. Everybody, I don't say, well, I said, who licensed these things? It was all. It was like, at least Celo size, but it were all about six, five. And it was just us. Football line, man. But, you know, one thing that were good about us, like, it's what you say, man.

We, we intellects, we're eccentrics, we gypsies, all that kind of shit. All the other, all the other extra shit. But that real nigga shit is stink off of us, you know what I'm saying? You feel me? So, like, yeah, we were using the dog pound, man. There ain't smell no place on her. Hell yeah.

Nicar, you said y'all. I'm going to say it's all right. I don't want to keep it real, man. I want to talk it how it really, really is. You know what I want a nigga to know Yeah, that's it Welcome back to the 85 South show We're in here with a good ball

Come on, man I mean, so It was with pride and with necessity Bro, we had to do it. We were the first, right? We couldn't take no guns, We were no next cross lines So it was just us

They were, man, it was the lyrics, man We weren't talking no crazy We were just talking some real Atlanta shit, man You know what I'm talking about And they ain't, them, they They ain't never been to Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? They ain't never been on Camino Road, been on Cascade. They ain't never been to Green Bride.

They ain't never been down on the interstates, none of that stuff. So when they heard all that stuff in the music, they wanted to know what it was all about. I'm talking about it. When we hear some stuff from when NWA came out, I'm like, man, I'm scared of them, bro. I'm scared, bro. I'm scared, like, if you listen to how Timo come in, and you wasn't, like, say you ain't knowing me, you just heard the nigger come in and he say, you know they're making it hard on the yard. Fuck, Chris Darden. And fuck Marsha Clark.

I believe every rap you ever rap to him. I don't get to fuck, what you're talking about. Because it's like the way that your boys come across, it's like, you ain't about to bullshit a nigga. With that much aggression, but he's like, I ain't going to get too mad because I need niggins to hear how mad I have. We loved it though, man. In the time that we come up, man, Atlanta was like gladiated school.

What did you say, OG? Alana was like gladiator school in my time because this was the era before gunplay any of that even came in the play. It was two of the things that they had guns. He even made little girls jumping rope sound gangster. To me can't siting outside,

tripping and skipping rope to the beats from my Jeep. I'm like, nigga, that ain't that ain't that ain't some gangster shit that's sound gangster. But that's some real shit

and niggas listening to it got to respect it. You know what I'm saying? Why he ain't say shot a nigga and then went to the crib and drunk a bill No, this niggas just kept it real. Yeah, kept it all the way real,

and you can't do anything about that. You know what I'm saying? So when you see, when they saw the mob when we were doing shows, man, they was just sitting looking, man, just listening, man, because they ain't never heard niggas, four niggas from the South,

you know what I'm saying, spitting on some real live music from organized. But then we were stepping up the stage, get down in the audience, and cypling with niggas, we cyp-cifled with boot camp clique and, you know, ducked down,

and all that. Making them with a rap. Man, these songs made such a huge impression on my life. Like, nigga, come in on the song, when the scene unfolds. You're old. 13 years old, exposed to them shit. It's like, how you're going to, you got to listen to all of that. You don't listen to a part of that.

Then you got to hit that whole. By the end of that verse, everything in the room is moving, just like in the video. It's like, it's just like audio dope for real. And it made niggins who love the craziest hip hop stopping. Like, hold on, nigga, they might just be listening to us. You know what the fucking didn't read. Those things weren't really read, man. They was really getting day knowledge from music.

You know what I'm saying? Like, shit, let me hear what good tomorrow, I gotta say. Go look that up, alright, I could deal with that. So, I mean, really, that's, I mean, that's what it is, man. You know what I'm saying? You want to put something real in your raps, man. And you want that shit. know it's gonna last this long 25 years man we were just being hood reporters man at the end of the day

you know what I'm saying but you know you know how they identify with emcees though like because we're like it's like it's like algorithm what I'm saying cadences so I'm saying they're looking at patterns and shit like that one thing we all was unique everybody rhymed in different patterns you know what I'm saying um and so I think that's what New York you know I mean like that's what raised their brow about us and they realized that it was dealing with a different kind of ambition of you know what You know what I said? It didn't sound like nobody else. And then you got to factor tempo into it

because, like, you know, at one time, everything that came from Atlanta came was derivative of Florida. You know what I'm saying? So it was all skating rink and booty shake. So you're going at 100 and goddamn 26 beats for me. It ain't, I was going to say,

Bill down to him, Judge, Bok-J, let's grab. Oh, that God, that's stop. That's power. Yeah. Show of that bird out. You know what I'm a shit. That's a good one. So when you imagine a outfit.

That ain't go with that. But you see what I'm saying, though? So when we turned it down, then you go all the way down to um, boom, um, um, um, um, um, um, um, uh. You didn't got something to say. And I ain't that about no boothole. You know what? But see, that's what I'm saying.

That's what I love about the music, though. It always has had that We were hip-wise. We had that common sense. You just talking about Mooneyhole. It's a nutty-moot hole, yeah. All y'all niggins just keep fucking with Moot-ho? Y'all ain't from the South then you wouldn't even know who I was referencing, man.

That's a goddamn O.G. J-T. Money, man, for the poise of clear. I referenced in my mother. J-T.Money. They're my extended family, man. So, no disrespect. Oh, Lord. J-T-Money. Got some pips shit, too, not, no.

Yeah, but see, that's what I'm saying. Y'all in flooring, too. Because that nigga came when I, When I first heard JT. Money was there, ay, aye, aye, y, aye, y, y, y, y, y. Oh, no, so you got to go all the way back to Poison, them. Them the first thing is I feel like a really, really rap.

They are the ones they gave me inspiration about just lyricism. Talk your shit, OG. You know, you can look at, I mean, shout out the devil's dad, you know, like his partner in Poison Claim. You know, they got something, what should know about drugs? What, you know, okay? So look, they, um, what if the song,

sport, rock, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, uh, my accounts accounts, too much to sleep solo. I wear a polo. while I'm playing polo. You know, they were spitting. You know what I mean? Like, so it was them.

Yeah. And then it was, um, eight ball and MJG to let me know, okay, like, this motherfucker who could really, really rap. Oh, and of course, Scarface. Shouts out to the two gods. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's, I mean, so there was a variety. That's, I mean, just those couple of references right there

that let you know what we was capable of. Like, you know, but what I can say, man, like this generation of now, you know, I mean, like, I see remnants. I see my reflection and everything everybody's doing. And, you know, one thing about what you speak, you say it often enough, it casts a spell. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like, it's magic. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, it's black magic when we do it. Right.

You feel, yeah? So, on the West Coast, you know what I mean, the spell, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, they spoke death, you know what I'm saying? Like, and death dies. Life lives on. I'm saying, you feel me? We spoke life. You know what I'm saying? You feel me like, and we breathe like until, you know, now a decade and a half of offspring. You know, so, like, you know, keeping the torch burning for the South.

You know what I'm saying? Like, so all the different little bad, there ain't no disrespect. Am I saying that right? No, you're on some shit. I'm just saying, all I choose are rich. That's all you're saying. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm trying to say.

Pop that mood hold. No, man, I've been a fan of everything. You know, I can start naming random shit. I'm talking about our artistic children. Everybody was inspired by Dungeon Family. All of the styles. Like, we became the grill for the South, man. All of the many different things that you could do.

And Atlanta is now like the way you have to come to even try to branch off or do any music. Like, niggins are coming here. You feel what I'm saying? And it was like, even now you hear, do you even know who started here? You got to go test the pot. Ain't no way around here. Let me ask you this, Celo. That's ours.

That's what I'm saying? Took your shit. Oh, Jit. Let me ask you this. Kluing so many people, man. This is one of the ones I feel like it slept on too, that bass head jazz. I get a lot. People mention that a lot to me, man.

I'll tell you about this shit. This shit was like a mistake. Come on, man. That that motherfucker's so smooth, man. The beat keep cutting off because some of it got erased when we were doing that beat. So it keeps stopping because a part of it got erased. They were like, man, just fuck with. Just leave it like that.

I ain't know no, Ben. That's called artistic class. Straight to the point. Hey, man. Say earlier, man, art is what you can get away with it. You feel me? Man, we're gonna sit up here and try to speak as colorfully, you know what I'm saying, you know,

as effectively as we can, man. It make you feel like we know a little bit about what the fuck we was doing. You know, you feel me? But it's all been a blessing, man. Like, you know, you can't really, I can't even articulate it. I can talk like a motherfucker, but like,

it's still, it's beyond, it's bigger than words, man. I mean, like, what we was able to do, man. That's a blessing, man. We're humble, my name. That's stepping out. That's one of my favorites, too. That was the time of Atlanta in the karma time. That was karma.

Y'all remember that club? Oh, yeah. You know everybody that came around like that. You got to get me up on club. That's a stand road shit. That was like, no, that was some down time. Yeah, ain't no downtime. Yeah.

Stay away from downtime. Yeah. It was just down. There was calm. There was when Atlanta was. Atlanta was, that's what Madonna were hanging out in Atlanta. Yeah. That's when the other level of Atlanta started, that's when people started seeing Dallas come out more.

That's when Dallas started coming out more, Dallas Austin. You know what he stopped. Yeah, he stopped. Yeah, that's what more of us saw seeing what that lifestyle was. It was another life. That was another life. That was not money. That was, that was big record.

That's a long way from 160 again. Yeah. Do y'all feel like y'all get the recognition? You know, being as though, like you said, y'all touch so many artists and y'all can see y'all influence and all these artists, do you feel like when people run into y'all, they say, oh, man, thank you,

and give y'all y'all y'all, y'all, y'all. Man, that shit awesome, man. I mean, the same shit that I used to do when I used to see people that I looked up to, you know what I'm saying? Now, you know what I'm saying? Now, you know what I'm saying? So I can run up to people, man.

They say, man, you know what I'm saying? I was 13 years old where y'all came, out or shit my daddy and my mama put me on the goody mob or whatever man we still listen to goody mall so man this it's great man but that's how it is man when you um when you when you're raising the flag man for your own shit man and then man you you're some four hungry young men man just just ripping through adversely man like it ain't shit man because it like you said man they country niggas don't know anything about nothing man I mean what the hell kind of song is cell therapy I mean what is this but man we can

We kept pushing, man. I mean, we was on the road by ourselves. We fought. You know what I'm saying? All four of us. I'm talking about going into a big-ass crowd with white boys shooting birds at you. You know what I'm saying? We're like, man, what the hell is that?

Man, y'all don't fuck with us, man. We got out of state like, that mean, we love y'all. I'm like, for real. Like, bro, we come from, man, that don't mean with that man. You know what I mean? So, man, we had to go through all that, man. I mean, shit, first time jumping on the airplane, leave in Georgia. I wouldn't fin to go nowhere.

I'm saying. They were out of the state right here, but. One of the first shows we did, man, it was a stage built on top of them fucking big spools. They got the, how you roll them out and put the wiring for the fucking, the lines, the power lines? Them big spools. They put a fucking, like, a fucking coffee, not a coffee table, but when the folding table. Am I right? You remember that shit?

And we got there sharing, we had one motherfucking mic and one goddamn Bobbi Brown Mike. Hey, man, the whole thing, yeah, the thing, yeah, the thing is my prerogative, Mike, man, they give you a little bit. Can I take your order, Mike? Pull back around, me down, pull back around. That's great. That was our first tour. We got a damn job rule. He was part of a group called Cash Money Click, man.

Erb got, he was the DJ. It was shy. the Rugged Child, who was with Wu-Tang, O.C., Mike Jamonimo, Royal Flush. Who else was like that? Hip-Hop, boy, that was a time to be alive back then. We're saying those times. Harry, pussy, everyone. What, Jamal like that?

Yes, sir. He said, yes, sir. Harry pussy, everyone. Yes, ah. He said that? That's something that I was glad that you're back doing it, because, like I said, those times are gone. We'll never get those times again.

everything is recorded you can't miss no moments now like these stories that y'all got we need y'all to tell hell yeah i got one more i got one more to ask about people always bring up silo song crazy right that shit took over the world you know my my shit is smiley faces though that's a good one that shit is crazy it's like that's one of them for real happy type songs you get what i'm saying Fuck you. That one, too. I mean, not to fuck you, but fuck you. Yeah, that's my, that man.

That's right. And fuck the two. What I always say, you know, any success we ever had, man, it all lends itself to, you know, what it extends from. It means, like, it extends from the dungeon family tree. You know what I mean? Like, so, you know, a lot of those things, you know, um, um. were given license, you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean?

Like, because we had already accomplished prior, man. So, you know, they extend their farther to the world, man. Like, you know, it's truly a testament to where it starts from, the split of the roots, the roots of the situation, man. There's Dungeon family. So we always do it, like, you know, and say, hey, man, if our cares win, we all win. And so, like, so goddamn it, B.O.B.

Or goddamn Miss Jackson, when that's a hit record, it's our hit record. It ain't just our game hit record. It's a hot. We can get a piece of it. You see what I'm saying. You know, and vice versa. So, you know, basically, yeah, there was Narls-Brockley,

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of Atlanta and becoming superstars like what was the adjustments like because everybody want to make it but they don't know what it take to get to get there to decide that you got to deal with all these different personalities and come on give me talk that shit that you know is bitch-ass niggas but you got to deal with them because they signed the checks like this department let me drag your John drag on I think it like this we we came in already knowing a lot and more than the average artist knew you know I mean so off top we was already a problem to the record labels we was already a problem to the establishment the things that we came in and talking about we was already a

problem to the establishment so with us knowing that we knew we had to work harder that's why stage shows were always live with live bands and that's why we did the things we did and that's why I felt like Celo was the singing breaking the the shows down doing the poetry, breaking it off, letting Lumberjacks do what they was doing, when we was doing a call of the wild verses and doing get up, get out. We stayed on what Goodemaw was about. At the same time, we knew that us talking to people and being on BET, it made us a little bit more important than the average rapper at the time because everybody was just sprung one direction. And with that being said, it made us ask a lot of questions.

when we got to Chicago. Now we're not with the face people. We were arister people. We started asking these people questions. Like when we got taken out and we had, all of a sudden, we're sitting at a restaurant and we're taking 80 people out. Instead of us sitting there and being like,

it's cool and we order and ordering, we'll be like, shit. How am I this call? Right. Who paying for this shit? What the fuck going on? And they'd be like, they're probs.

Even though they got hit records, records I'm gonna tell y'all about the incident as soon as we went go we was in a room with LA and us just being so military and so military minded it was almost like we told it was like congratulations y'all go and it was like yeah that's cool so we were organizing all fuck you and it it came off like that to them because it was like and it and to this day I think about I'm like damn was that a mistake but it was like that's how we we felt because that's how we came in the game. We were sitting in Curtis Mayfield House,

and he took me in his room and he showed me, he showed me the original shifts from Superfly. He said, yo, Gil, never sell your publishing until you're ready to lead the game. And you gotta think, having these conversations with actual legends, it made us different. It made us difficult because even, you know, we got to the table with gold records,

and they'd be like, yo, We got that $250,000 for y'all, and we'll be up in there like, shit, fuck that shit. This ain't enough money. Because we always broke it down to, it's four of us. You know what I mean? So even right now, that's saved up 25 years later. Right now, we sit here and we own everything we have recorded. Big Ten is sad.

Nick Jain is sadden. Yeah. None of them niggie can't even say that. You know? It's true. And it's like, we see everybody with the big house and the big, we know. Y'all sold, you know, y'all got the check. But they can't offer us enough money to have this.

See, as long as we still hold our balls and our draws, hey man, they got respect and love. Right. Them boys did enough with them wars and all that. But I'm talking about it's for these streets, the streets are the streets in the streets called we still. Right. So even not giving part of the ownership, you think they kind of scared the label?

No, it's just that they know we, we always been smarter than what we spoke, what we look like. I was just for the same. The answer, then the cap of what you said, it was a mistake because it was an assumption. It was a misunderstanding. We never sat down at the table and had the conversation. Our action was our opinion. You know what we did, you know what we did, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, even in the art form or even in just the energy, you know, we know?

you know, was our stance and opinion. So they never, they never even asked us. You know what I'm saying? It was like, after this, he was like, no, fuck you. Okay. We never say, fuck you. Everything we're doing in the, in the album was like, fuck you. Because, that's why I mean I'll never get no one.

They pay for Manchurian candidates. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? They pay, they don't, Manchurian candidate. They pay for somebody that's fixed, you know what I mean? Like, you know, that's appointed, you know, to mule whatever gender it may be. You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't, they don't support independence.

Right, right, right, right. Because y'all will end up, you end up spreading it out to others? You got to get them, you got to get some, and will you help me be independent? You can't, you can't say that. That makes no sense. Right. You got to either be independent or not. Right.

That's the deal. That doesn't have to pee that, boy. They ain't like that, they ain't like that, that side of the game. Like, hmm, y'all can be a counselor to the, to the lane. Well, it's just, you know, it's, you know, the question. It's a knowing you're worth. Right. You know what, you feel me?

And at the same time, think about it. We all was on the same labels. We're seeing what's going on with TLC. We've seen what's going on with Tony Breston. But think about that. That label was so cold, the face was so cold. Nobody, even the artist didn't talk to each other about that. Right.

Because the game was so good. Right. Shit, you got the money. You can make everybody at right. Right. For a little while. Right. It's that last point.

That's like, that's like, they give you the up front money, or they say you get a part of the sales, but niggas ain't need to think about publishing or radio playing. Hey, man. Let's not make it sound like it's something negative, man. We talk, y'all, we're talking about business. Yeah, yeah, more definitely. Business is business, man.

It's a church and state. You don't get what you deserve. You get what you negotiate. That's a ball right there. No, for real. Like church and state. You don't give it you work. You give it you.

negotiates. Because business is definitely a business. I didn't mean for that to rhyme. But it did. Business and business, because if you don't know, you don't know. Yeah. Now, I had a lot about, y'all was around during this, er. I had sure got a lot of people paid, like, it went in and did that, like, the get, it went

from, you know, a couple cents per record to you getting a, you know, a dollar or something per record. Did that shift all the way through the industry or just the people he affected personally? He's trying to shift it all the way through. Come on, that shit. Speak on you, Moly, a smart guy. It kind of shifted all the way around. We actually began to make more off records then,

because when we first came in, the deal we did, I mean, it was so insane and so, I mean, so terrible of a deal. But like Seleu Say, that's what we negotiated. You know, he called some young black men that were excited about being with the face records, you know what I mean, David Face, you know, L.A. Reed, and you know, y'all want to sign us?

Let's go. You know what I mean? whatever. We, I mean, be honest, which we probably would have signed it without even letting the lawyer look at it. We were just so that crunk about getting down with them because we were artists, you know what I mean, and young kids. And that's why they get them young because they're young and dumb, you know, and I mean dumb, but they're stupid, but just uneducated. You know, just don't know what to do or how to do it. But, you know, it's a good way, it's a good thing that should be. I will give him credit for that, going in and getting

the people their money. I mean, that's the type of story. stuff people won't. You know, that's the type of person you want on your team. Somebody like that. You know, it's just, you know, he has some negative and some positive problems that were good for business, you know. Let me ask y'all this. Y'all were in the front of the pack when the South started the official run in hip-hop. Did you ever think that run would last this long? For Atlanta to be that place, still running. Musical hotbed that it is. From the time Bobby Brown got the town all way up until now.

Or whenever that turning point in music was for Atlanta. Even he knew it was somebody that line right. You get what I'm saying. He was early on it. That way he used something. That way he came on now. Yes, sir. Come on.

I mean, New York had their chance, you know what I said? Not like they don't have another chance, but it was like they started it first, you know what I'm saying, it was born up there. But it had to keep growing, you know what I'm saying? They had to keep growing and come down to the west coast, then come down to the southwest coast, and it ended up down here in the south. and we just embraced it so much because I guess we just been kicked out of the conversation for so long and then when you talk about us in the conversation you know what I'm saying it's on some goddamn whole shit you know what I'm saying so I mean just for just for young MCs right now that do their history and watch the videos and listen to the radio man and try to you know what I'm saying make their rhyme different from everybody else who's just trying to get some get some drip out here man just get lit or whatever man

and try to just push that envelope man because this is our genre right now you know i'm saying you got people you want people to respect your genre just like people respect country you know what i'm saying they had big ass rewards for country people you know what i'm saying jazz i mean saying blues so you know what i'm saying bring something to the to the to the coach you know what i'm saying so it's like you know whatever these young brothers are doing it's all right to have fun because that's what we was doing you know what i'm saying we were doing our thing we didn't know that said there was going to be as big as it was our whole album went about sell there. You know what I'm saying? Our whole album's about shit the dirty

South, what was going on in the South. You know what I'm saying? This shit was born in the trap. You know what I'm saying? The name goody mark came up out the trap. You know what I'm saying? So, but it evolved into something else. You know what I'm saying that people know a nigga for 25 years. So I was just about to speak on evolution man. Like shit, man. Like it's never no disrespect to where it's birth. You know, we are the bottom man of the East Coast man. We are a relative. You I'm saying, you feel me? I feel immediately connected to where the East Coast initiated, man up top,

in sports hip-hop. I'm totally and completely inspired by East Coast hip-hop. Love it. You know what I'm saying? You know? You hear me? That's facts. Right.

Right. But what I'm saying, you don't go back to the womb, go to the tune. Hip-hop ain't nothing but like 40-some years old. This is a big baby. Right. You know what I'm saying? You feel? It's like we're still growing.

It's like it's going to grow past us. You know what I mean? And the irony of it is like, you know, this generation is only more their country and making more money than any other prior generation of their content and culture. So you got to salute that. You got to salute that. But, you know, it's most accessible and most influential, I feel like as a whole, you know, we're operating on our lowest frequency.

You know what I'm saying? Like, damn. That's all. That's a hell of a thought right there. You know, like the earth is getting a large omission. You know what I'm saying? You feel me?

A very destructive energy. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? In my opinion. Right. You're talking about when he just come on you? If God is but one thing, if God is but one thing is time, if God is but one other thing is balanced.

That's all we got to have. That's all good enough. We're not here to judge. We love the youth. Like, we're real niggas. We will kill you if you fuck with us out here. Like the rest of me, like. PSA.

You understand. Don't get it fucked up. You know what I'm saying? But we're here to represent a balance. It's like coexistence or cohabitants, a true community and true culture. It's balance. It's just, you know, that's all we're here to be. You know what I'm saying?

And as long as that, the balance is going to be supported, man. You know, it's just, you know, righteousness, man. Like, you know, that's shit, man. What you're having? No, hell no. I mean, you know, it's like... I'm over here, green like in that church, yeah. Yeah, like, go to the next.

We are all influenced by y'all heavily. Like, you know, even if, you know, I would say Loses, because Loses put me onto a lot of goody mob, I was familiar with the stuff that everybody knew. But he put me on to the stuff that, you know, let me know, like, whoa, these niggas was really... And once you get that information, you see how much game y'all laid down so for us to be here and be able to just chop it up

and talk to y'all it's like that's why we like when these niggas is really right here you know what i'm saying we came along the internet weren't really popping like that so you wouldn't really you wouldn't really know but until now until you just start searching out a timo goody or searching out of gilip or a silo or kujo then you will see its new music out there you know what i'm saying but just like the radio station they move on like q said they'll have a new nigga next year you feel what i'm saying so it's all about it's all about what you do like p said it's all about what you do with your 24 hours you got eight hours to sleep yeah what you do with the rest of them and what you do with you know what i'm saying so shit it was just it was just a blessing that

when we were young we was able to just write all that shit down man and was able to just spit that shit on them live instruments and man make a name for ourselves bro i like it though man the it's mass production, mass consumption. You just got to work at the rate. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? You know what I'm saying? We just got to do a lot of what you do.

Right. You feel what I mean? That's how you compete. Made a hell of point. And that's working hard. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? Like that's grinding and fucking committing yourself like a motherfucker, man.

Oh, you cannot be. They've been telling us for five years to get y'all on here. Hell yeah. Every week. Literally, like, called him. I'm like, nigger, I can't call him. Right. And he just made a good point, Kudjo, like, if it's, if it's,

If you ain't ever heard of this new music, you know what, for everybody that might not know what, you know, that these dudes catalog, go listen to it, to be new to you. That's iconic, man. Very time he just speak a dungeon family, I'm just like, nigger. The niggas was dead man, bro. You got to understand the heart, you feel, man, the heartbeat of Atlanta. The heartbeat, you got to understand the heartbeat of why this shit flowing and how even you said the future, nigger. future's in that dungeon family you see what I'm saying and future them birthed a lot of other motherfuckers so the heartbeat is still beating but see it's like whatever point in your life you

was listening to this shit look at us through his land yeah you feel me look back at us through future it's like yeah it's all right we ain't that far away from you be there I damn they want to go at the house I didn't need the sky back but I was just saying this they made the kind of music like good and mind that you have to go back and listen to when you grown right you get what I'm saying you don't understand it for real kids can't listen to that kid that's how deep because they said a lot without even directly saying this shit man man thank y'all y'all y'all see let to find us by bed here you know what I mean we're learning a lot and get me and you need to learn how to bake bean pies man

man don't know what the mean pie joe don't make the right mean pie joe don't make the right Mean pie. Nick Bill Dixie Hill fucked up. You might have seen. What you think? I'm gonna see a little, fool. Y'all weren't crazy on the new album. Yes, sir.

Survival kit, bro. Yes, sir. Survival kit. Everybody knew you want. Amen, survival kit. I don't know, man. It's like everybody got different stuff. They can put in their survival kit.

You know what I'm saying? Music is one thing you might want to get. of your survival kit you know what i mean i would need you know what i'm saying you know what i'm you got to have that music so like i say it was our 25th year anniversary and um it was on the right man and we did a new album for all my fans and had that survival kit come up man just because of what we were going through with the uh with the pandemic you know what i'm saying people were just getting prepared you know what i'm saying so all we was doing man was just um we're just speaking on a lot of stuff man that was going on at the time you know what i mean and um

and putting it out there, bro. So, I mean, we're from the 90s, man. This is 2020, 2020, 2021. Yeah. Hey, bro. And y'all still here. Still moving. Still here.

Still standing. Be yourself every, big. But y'all called this shit. A's just made me think, what songs would I have in my survival kit? Man, if you get five songs, you get five songs, that's your survival kit. You get five songs? Everybody got to get five. Everybody got to get five songs in your survival kit.

shit you go first whoa that's a tough yeah that's a hard yeah that's a hard yeah that's a hard um um uh then willie hutch the glow hey from the last dragon sound track yes sir okay willie hush the glow oh my god um okay damn i gotta go regroup i got to throw that with away uh That's heaven. Willie Hush the Globe. Shaddle. Yes, sir. Michael Jackson, Dirty Diana.

That was nice. I got a mic. Michael Jackson in your shit. Switch, I call your name. Hmm. Then I got a masterpiece swamp niggas. Swamp niggas. Swamp niggas.

Yeah, come on. Yeah. And then I'm from D.C. So back y'all. bang keep it gangster that's my five that's my five you got to go yeah i know yeah that's yeah you got to you got who you got i ain't ready come on yeah he like he like he can't y'all go on the game this is a good-ass question man that god-day you're survival of him i got i got so fresh and so clean oh okay i got to go so friends i got to go so friend

All right. Tyree's sweet lady. Okay. Shit. I got to go back. I got to go back. I had another one. Teddy, T.K.O.

I can listen to that shit on date. Blum, damn, damn. Bling to go home. Waguane. Not Bob Marla, but his son, Skip Mahler. He got a good one. They call, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh. They call, what it's called, god damn it.

I think it's a wall, slowdown. I can't fuck a slowdown because I can't get the other one. What I'm on, I'm on, four, that foe. And my last one, y'all, real top. I'm going, I'm going now. Nigger, and I wish a nigga you would say song. Beyonce Dream Girl. Really?

Listen. They got that four right now, man. That's a dude for a boy. Oh, shit. Shit, look, that's a good soul. Alright, you had the old school for, let me see. I throw that boostie Collins, what's the telephone bill in there? That motherfucker, man.

That's hard, right? That's hard. All right. Let me see. I put that Herbie Hancock, that watermelon, man. That watermelon, man. He'll know. She said, I'm heavy.

That's my shit, man. My shit, I need that. Alright, this is going to sound random as hell. I want to throw um... Flex by Mad Cobra. Flex, time that's it?

Yeah. Okay. I'll throw that in there. Yeah, that's shit. That's my shit. I don't give a fuck with nobody. Let me find out that boy Carlo got a slow grind. All right.

I'm at number four. I love the way that miss come on. Morning, morning, just get waited. You come out of nowhere. Been too long! Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha, just gotta talk of shit. Okay, all right, not just cause y'all here.

I'm putting last straws, mirrors, and plates on them up. That's number four. Oh, okay. That's it. Yeah, I'm telling you, because I was about to get out of high school when they happened came. So that was my whole soundtrack all the way back from the football game. So gutter-butter. Last one.

What's the thing again, five songs to do what? In the survival. You got to listen to the music every day now. I know. Jits to die? Okay. I got to throw one in here for my sports. What that?

And Al Green. Damn. Which one? How can you men a broken heart? Yeah. Because if this is, you got to keep in mind, this is all I got. How did you? You are broken, man.

What's wrong with you, man? What can a loser ever win? And that my favorite shit is at the end when the niggas just the song about to go off the nigger, like, and my clothes is all wet. That ain't had shit to do with the song. Hey, he was in rain. Hey, he's in the rain. Damn.

Yeah, yeah. Let me see. Shit. I got to have that goddamn, that Jane Brown. This is a man's world. Come on. Okay. Okay.

He letting me know. Let me play this place. Let me see. God damn. I got to have that sitting in the dock of the bay. Come on. Oh, this red. Yeah.

I got to have that old is. Come on. I got to have that goddamn, um, Midnight Train to Georgia. Oh, Midnight Train to Georgia. Got to have that midnight train to Georgia. Oh, that's a good. See, I got to go. See, I got two more, right?

Yes, sir. Let me see. Hmm. I got a hair that still standing, though. That song's still standing. Okay. You love that? I love that.

I love that one. You know, you like that one? Let me see. One more, Goddell. I got it. You got your. Man. You got to go look here.

You got one more. You got one more. Come on, dude. That deep by Outcast. Deep. Deep. You want to go deep by taking deep. Yeah.

You know, you can. Let me get my mind creep And let me hit the stage Now I walk with wine creek That's that sit down boy You want to go deeper than the page in the book Let me look Come on

He let me hit the state now I got that ass with Well he had it right here down All right I got got down Wham careless whispers Hey That's a good one my nigga Boy it's good damn for that George Michael

All right I got Bar Maud and Redemption Okay Good to go Why? Why? All right, we're going to take it on to the beach. We're going to color me bad, sex you up. Come on, man.

Then we're going to get down hit. We're going to 5 o'clock drop. That's that eight ball, MJG, Mr. Big. Okay, okay. And then that last one, man. Sheet, swinging thing, man. Big Mike. Oh, have a been swangin' thing.

Don't look at a young nigga, hey, I've been fine, mate. That was a good one. All right. I got to start out with Michael Jackson, Human Nature. Okay, okay. That's it. I definitely got to swing over the, uh, just keep your faith in me. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And patiently, you'll get where you need to be in due time. Got to have that every morning. Let's see what we are here. Okay, all right. Yeah, got to have that. I got to have, um, ribbon in the sky.

Oh, yeah, Steve got to have what Steve wanted. I thought, yeah, that's my favorite one. I got to have that, that George on my mind, Ray Charles. Okay, okay. I'm thinking of the last one. That's fine. One more? One more.

You got one more. I got one more. He didn't say he didn't get that far. I got to have that one. Cheers today. You're good. You're good. You're good.

Great selections one. See no, Mr. Green. We want to see. It is your chance to shine, Mr. Green. Liberation, outcast. Okay. There's it. That shit is crazy.

I love it. Fantasy, earthwind, and five. Okay. It's so fucking many, bro. Where you go? Mm-hmm. True Spandale Ballet. Okay.

I had two Earth One Fine, too. I won't say that. Y'all know this song? I write a song for you by EarthMefine? I love that song. I'm just throwing that out there, but I ain't count that one. I mean, I got that. No, he ain't counted that one, so he got two more.

Two more. Okay. Shit, man. Y'all was trying to be... I was trying to be, you know what I'm saying? O.G. with it, but I really got some y' y'all-n-n-kish shit. Come back. Throw me some yin-yang, too, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, good, man, yeah. You're going to listen to that every day? To the window. To the wall. What do you say? I think I can do that goddamn, that jodesty, whatever you want. Oh, I forgot beauty. That Drew Hill.

It's one more. Damn. Damn. You can't believe by true. What else? One more. Damn. Yeah, one more.

A big one. Shit. I can't believe I got a good. Your song, Michael Jackson. Oh, man. Man. Oh, really. So they're, man.

If you watch it, go there. All right. That Earp song video. Oh, niggins, I roll out the bitch and that. Yeah, you got to. Go listen. You ain't heard. That end on the video like that.

That's a real song, man, people fucked up. And you rewind the shit and all the shit starts coming back to life. I don't like that. I won't do mine, no. I thought this whole move on. You think that was all of you. That was tough. But we could have put it in different categories.

That would have made it easier, though. Yeah, you know what I mean? That just, you know, that just popped in my mind. A survival kid. A song. That's crazy. Much music is that. Because on some foolish, I would say you got damn ride with some players, goddamn Sammy Sam. That wasn't my favorite song at all time.

At all that shit. Oh, I miss musical, man. Here I go. Wow! I can listen to the beat all day. That's a kid. Shit, I didn't even put no fence in mind, nigger. I would have to say, got that U.P.K. Burder.

Oh, man. That's like the all part of me. That's like the all part of me. So what the fuck this is. the fuck this up put the potter on it put like that big fucking nuns just got mappin'clock man how you'd be legit

that was in case I would have put take that shit to trial back in 1980s well that's the scabry song take that shit to trial let's take that shit to trial bitch I ain't know what the fuck he was saying

how are we going to trial every first that thing came in boy case I'm dying a new holler with Mars here and my granny uh-huh I'm tired of this Mr. Big family. I know I'm on the run so I can't use the phone.

My motherfucking babies, they don't even know I'm gone. Uh-huh. I'm like, look, that's cool. Shit, space age pimper. Oh. Y'all don't know that one. What? Got down.

I'll be obliged if you step outside. That's the first time in black history that a nigger been obliged. Hold on. M.J.G. is the first black man to openly and be allowed to be a blind. Man, you know what they'll do to a nigger who was a blind? Cut your feet off, man. You're about to get back on my A.T.S. Nick, I forgot about them yumb blood.

Damn. You don't give it down and we don't give a fuck? Damn, a hit. I love that. That shit don't never go out of stuff. That's my heart, damn, me. Oh, you're going to Calais Pimp for, yeah. They're young blood?

What did you say, come on. They didn't win. They killed that ball. Well, they parted up. What, they part of the dungeon? You keep in the HIV. I think we I got in Kilo. Kilo went crazy though.

You don't remember the pears? See, I don't remember the pen, but I know Kilo though. Up in the mouth. Boy, I'm on his own. White boy. And that's no lizard. But he's got a lot of shit, no, niggins. I thought we keep it at a time for a second, man, you know what I mean?

Yeah, he kept that shit for real. Oh, look, you were. So I think Youngblood were putting out slang in song. Oh, wow. Yeah. They don't even know what that mean. That you were everything. That shit that happened with me

that was slammed up and then get slammed on that back. Yep, nigga thrown this shit. Ooh. You win. That's a wrestling movie. It was. It was our first, like, you know what I'm saying?

Sound effect. That was a big for everything, right? That's the nigga like, you is. And then you were right, that's it. Yeah. That's nice of the shit, though. Yeah, I remember, man. Like a lot of, like real slain slain.

That was our little brother, man. They was up in the attic, shit. We was in the dungeon. Right. You know what I'm talking about the attic crew? Attic crew. Yeah, fuck. What ain't so much, man.

We just sit here with y'all niggas. Forever. Forever. We appreciate that. Yeah, we got some goddamn man. Got some history, bro. This shit, man. It should be a museum, like this shit, like for real, for real, like on some real shit.

Might be. Might be. Yeah, we'll appreciate the goddamn. The love. Bro, we got to ask you this. Just one more thing before you go, though. Because we're comedians and shit, and you always be on the boondocks funny as it.

Bro, I wanted to be a comedian. That's what I thought I could do in for a try. You know what I'm saying? You feel me? I love to make people laugh. Right. It's one of my favorite things to do. You could tell from the video.

Yeah. That freak video, niggas. When you got that? I mean that. I didn't think nobody was going to take you shit. I thought, man. That's all I thought it would be. That's crazy.

That's all I thought it would be. You know what I'm saying? That's what you all. That's what y'all represent, man. It's freedom to be who you are, man. Thank y'all, brother. You appreciate it. Thank you.

Do way. New face, always on the case. You know he and him, man. Y'all always welcome to come hollied us. Come on, man. Come on. Back tomorrow, I always walk. What you are doing, y'all, your platform,

your energy, your persistency, your authenticity, man. We love y'all, man. Thank y' y'all for having us. I appreciate it, man. Yeah you have it, folks. 85 South Show. I heard what you did by that wild in our situation, man, God don't bless you, man.

Thank you about it, man. You know, we're just gonna stay down. You did, what I'm saying? Keep God first at all time. Thank you, my father. You did? Thank you, man. You gotta stay down on, man.

It's the law. Yeah, did. Come on, man, what we're from? She doesn't say, it's outside. We're up, man. Yeah, did. Come on, y'all. Man, we appreciate y'all.

We appreciate y'all. 85th time, so we have to be a bit. I got to give it, man. That's job it, man. Yeah, that's amazing, man. Thank you. Oh, gee. You know, man, I've been looking at y'all, too, man.

Oh, yeah. You called that. You said it. That door. No. Oh, gee. Come on. That door.

Hey, they got that mic or re. Oh, you're gonna be crazy when you see this shit. I got a 45 minute drive. What's up? And I got to make it that my dog ain't pee inside. Because I knew they did, I'm like, damn. Why you drive? Oh shit.

How you know what's you were? When I took the hour for a full time, you act like you ain't have to slide. So, damn, knock on, gotta pick a shit. Got down what the dog to be. Huh? Oh, when they get her boy, what's up? What's gonna be.

Straight. Okay. Okay. Okay. Hey! Yeah, oh shit. This nigga got that on, man. This nigga got my knees burning.

Newface, what you bring us, man? Let's get in there. Oh, man. Oh, wait, okay. What's that? This shit. Oh, dude. Everybody hit that game?

No, no. Oh, he hit that dad. Let that shit. This shit. This shit. This shit. I said, oh, hey, this is like to smoke a home. Yeah.

It ain't real. They will be. You're like, it. He said to St. Ray. He said to Saint-Defriety. Oh, dude, you're looking for the rich. This ain't the red.

Every time we try to come out and do something positive, they don't want to help. They be like, black people are not going to support that bullshit. Go to the website. 85 apparel. 85 appurl.com. Man, put it on the screen. You know what I mean? And I know my accent a little heavy

when I say a pearl. It's not a you in it. A pearl. You know how to fucking spell. A pearl. Go get some a pearl. Go get some a pearl. Sick of this shit, man.

Shit. Every day. Do it. Let me get a hat. Yeah, man. Take that old. When the four eggs are going to be in? Yeah, man.

Are you mad? Y'all ain't got nothing for babies. What the fuck? When y'all gonna get some ones? Yeah, I know, man. Cut some of this shit. Man, buy this shit, we got some. Yeah, save it for your baby.

That nigga gonna grow up one day. He gonna want this. I'm tired of telling me. Me too, man. I'm just gonna start wearing all the shit. I wear it every day in the way. I like it. Me too, it's nice.

Nice quality. Everything, you know what I mean? Shit is soft, man. Made out of hoodie material. Yeah, even the pants. We got sweatpants made out of hoodie material. Come on, man. And it ain't like, this ain't no knockoff.

You can watch. You can wash this. Right, they're going to fade or nothing. Better than that shit you used to. We make it sure. I had this hoodie for the whole five years. Yeah, I know. Look, still great.

All the way. And niggas don't know how to watch clothes good, so it's not because we have a good washing routine. And we got the shit is nice. We got all the nigger colors. We got black. We got red. We got blue. We got some pink shit for the girl.

White. Socks. Roller trays, lighters. Man, what else they want us to come out with? I better add, I guess, because we got to keep doing these motherfuckers. I'm about to call LL Kudjay. Right. I'm about to pay somebody else to do this shit.

I know, right? Get that nigga to roll his pants leg up one time. I don't know what they want me to do. Everybody who come through here get some of this dope-ass shit to me like, I like that shit. It's nice. It's cool. Hey, man, why that had cost that much? Nigger, we don't own no factory.

We had to cut a deal. We got to make some money off this shit, too. Exactly. I don't understand why y'all. Even the tag in our shit is better. It's imprinted on it. So a motherfucker can't say, you know, like Biggie said, they go to a nigga with the fake I.

You ain't got to worry about that. It's real. It's how it's real. Nate, that's what I'm saying. You got to get our shit. Because when we see y'all with the shit to be our shit. They don't know how much the shit they be buying costs. Right.

I shit don't even cost that. Man. I had somebody send me a DM saying, hey, man, it's an 85 South shows hoodie. I'm mocking up for y'all. What you think? I think you need to get that shit to fuck out my pay. The bootlegger sent you the shit that they was bootleg?

Fuck, you're going to get me to approve some bootleg shit. Take it fooled out my kids' mouth. Right. With my idea. Right. Wow. Motherfuckers. Buy some of this shit, man.

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