The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Hot Boy Turk in the trap! with Karlous Miller and Clayton English

Episode Date: May 14, 2021

Hot Boy Turk got so many stories bout being a part of the Cash Money Millionaire movement and he shares them with Karlous Miller and Clayton English in the trap! Turk tells the story of how BG, Lil Wa...yne, Juvenile and Soulja (Magnolia) Slim created the soundtrack to a whole generation.Plus,Turk tells the story of Diddy stunting on Birdman way way back in the day and how Birdman subsequently became the #1 Stunna! Mannie Fresh,Slim and Baby and many more New Orleans legends paved the way for Turk and he tells the story of his rise, fall and he resurgence in the media after doing time.Turk has even more stories to tell in his book! Buy it now!https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-ori...Hit Our Website for more info: https://www.85southshow.com/Get our custom merchandise: https://85apparelco.com/Subscribe To our Channel: bitly.com/85tubeWATCH KARLOUS' MILLER's COMEDY SPECIAL! https://vimeo.com/ondemand/karlousmil...FOLLOW THE CREWKARLOUS MILLER - https://www.facebook.com/karlousm/DCYOUNGFLY - https://www.facebook.com/DcYoungFly1/CHICO BEAN - https://www.facebook.com/OldSchoolFool/Director - JOE T. NEWMAN - www.ayoungplayer.comProducer CHAD OUBRE - https://www.instagram.com/chadoubre/Producer - LANCE CRAYTON - https://www.instagram.com/cat_corleone_/It's Jon - https://www.instagram.com/holaj_o_n/ Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:34 Wait a minute. Hold up. Stop everything. Hold on. We're having a moment up in here right now. We got one of the coldest niggas that ever come up out of the South. Facts. One fourth of the most legendary hip-hop groups of our generation. Facts. Come on, man. I'm talking about the nigger who was telling us that on Tuesdays and 13th, You've been watching a seat.
Starting point is 00:02:02 Look, this the nigger, eh, this the nigger who told me. Watch out. I need a project bitch. What? One that don't get more fun. One that don't give a fuck and say she took that. That alone! It's enough poetry to let you know that we got turk in this motherfucker about.
Starting point is 00:02:22 Bowling since his younger days. Been pulling triggers. Been running to do the hallway. Playing it wrong. sparking at any time, anywhere, any place with that fucking man. Come on. I like them hot. The ones that don't tell me to stop.
Starting point is 00:02:39 Eat dicks while the cup. And they know how to pop. Oh my God, bro. Come on, man. Wait a minute, bro. Come on. Is it me, man? All that untang gorilla, man.
Starting point is 00:02:51 You know, all that shit, man. You don't understand, nigga. It's like we grew up together. We watched you go from little Turk to Turk. Yeah. Yeah. You feel me? It was a little turkey at first.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Yeah. Then the nigga got grown and drunk. You wasn't never rapping a little though. No, never. He was rapping. Yeah, man. You know, I've been off the porch, man. Untamed gorilla.
Starting point is 00:03:13 I ain't had no childhood, you feel me. My childhood was stolen from me, bro. Like at 14, I was the man of the house, you know what I'm saying? So it was like, shit, you got a man up, you know what I'm saying? My daddy wasn't in the house, mama was at work. So you know me, man. I'm lurking, you feel me. My old goal was to get my mom out of the project, you know what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 00:03:36 So that was my motivation, doll, you know what I'm saying? I hustled a little bit, that ain't work out. You know what I'm saying? God bless you, you feel me, with the music. I'm glad it happened that way, but, you know, she's still with gangster. You heard me? Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:53 You knew you it was cold at music, like, whatever. To be honest, bro, I promise you, like, with the music shit, man, it was just like, I used to be jealous of another bad creation, the ABC dude, immature, and all of them. So I used to be like, man, fuck them niggas, man. I'm trying to get the bitches like, you know what I'm saying? Like them, because I already was wearing the S-curl and shit back in the days and all the old girls, you know what I used to like me and shit.
Starting point is 00:04:18 So, you know, I had the baby bands and all that shit slicking my head down with the cut in the eye brazier and shit, you know. But that wasn't enough, you know what I'm saying? So my whole motivation really was the females, and I wanted to get my mom out of the hood. You know, at the time, Magnolia Shardy, you know, she was a female artist with Cash Money, and she had a record called Monkey on the dick at the time.
Starting point is 00:04:41 And, man, her was cool. Like, she stayed across the courtway for me in the Magnolia. And, um, I mean, I used to be rapping to the DJs and shit, man. And I told her to put in the word for me, you know what I'm saying? She did that. Babe Man and Fresh Cane DJed in the Magnolia one day where I'm from. In the hood. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I rap the slim, McNois Slum, like, this the nigga I was telling you about, Bam, man, bam, you know, Appetuna was there, I rap, and I wasn't no cold rapper, though, to be, I just had the determination, hustle, like, the drive, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:13 Like, I never felt like nobody could stop me from doing nothing. I always had that leadership, you know, them attributes, you feel me? And when I rap to him, he was like, she gave me a card, told me, come to studio, I used to play football. I could go to studio with my tugs on,
Starting point is 00:05:29 at the football practice, I was dedicated, you know what I'm saying? I think that's what put me in a position to be able to become a hot boy. It was just by a coincidence, right place, right time. Wayne, B, G, Juvenile, they was really rappers. They was really, you know, they was born gifted with that shit, you know what I'm saying? I just inherited it.
Starting point is 00:05:48 And, you know, me and Wayne used to rap every day. He used to make me right. You know what I'm saying? He were younger than me, but he was like, like, far as, like, mentally with the rap shit, He was always, you know, dedicated book bag, you know what I'm saying, like, bam, bam, bam. Let me ask you this, what was it like watching,
Starting point is 00:06:05 you know, your little brother become super huge. No, I was in prison, man, when it happened, you know. I always knew Wayne was gonna be big. Like, that was, I always knew that, you know what I'm saying? Because he was dedicated. I mean, we was in foot locker, man. There's a pitch out here floating somewhere. And I was trying on my rebox.
Starting point is 00:06:25 You heard this nigga had a pad. in his hand, footlock, like he was just so dedicated. Wherever he went, he took that pad with him. That when he was writing and shit. But he used to write every day. This nigga had rap. Remember we had beepers and shit right. This nigga had a rap on his beeper.
Starting point is 00:06:40 He used to rap. Like on the two-way shit. You know what I'm saying? Nah, not the two-way, nigger, the beeper. You feel me? The regular beeper, you feel me? And he was rapping on that motherfucker man. And how he used to orchestrated and put it together.
Starting point is 00:06:53 Like, niggas you want him to do their beepers. You know what I'm saying? I'm like, man. Like man, this little nigga creative, he talented, you know, and he was dedicated, and he wasn't on drugs. He wasn't doing no drugs. He didn't even, he was just focused, you know what I'm saying? He used to get mad at me.
Starting point is 00:07:07 I used to be doing so much drugs and shit. He used to be mad. And I just knew he was going to be big, man. Like, I never doubted it. It wasn't no surprise, you know what I'm saying? He always looked up to, like, Jay-Z. The world just got to see that, but I knew he'd been wearing the Timerlin's when we was one of the kids,
Starting point is 00:07:25 when we was wearing Reeboks, he went a book bag, you know what I'm saying? And Baby used to get mad, and this nigga with this East Coast ass shit, you know what I'm saying? But he's been idolizing Jay Z since, like, yay high, you know what I'm saying? That's why when he rap, it always was different
Starting point is 00:07:42 from ours, you know what I'm saying? And, shit, he just lived out his dream, bro, you know what I'm saying? And he wanted the biggest, you feel me? Yeah, man, but you feel like you'd be right in the middle of one of the biggest movements to come out of the south, you feel me? Like, that shit had to be crazy, bro. Because
Starting point is 00:08:01 that'll never be done again, bro. The run that y'all had? Facts. Right behind, like, one of the biggest runs ever? Man. And, man, came and fucked the game up. You always seemed like the perfect team player,
Starting point is 00:08:15 though. You feel what I'm saying? I was, but, like, see, back then, I was kind of, like, I was quiet. You know what I'm saying? Observing. You know what I'm saying? Watching everything. but was a devil you feel me like I was a quiet assassin
Starting point is 00:08:28 like type you know people thought I was the good dude but I really wasn't as far as like street shit you know what I'm saying getting in the industry and talking you know yeah I was shy of that because that's something different but in the streets I was really like that you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:08:43 but you know of course you know I kept my street shit away from the business you know what I'm saying but um it was just man it was just man like like a dream come true. I didn't realize how big we was until
Starting point is 00:08:57 when I was in prison and I was in the feds, you know what I'm saying? And people just been asking me about when y'all gonna do a high boy reunion? Man, bro, I'm trying to get out of prison. Why don't fuck you y'all keep asking me about a high boy reunion?
Starting point is 00:09:14 I'm talking about, you know, I did eight year, eight months, 16 days, brother, and they asked me this damn nip. Every day. Like, for eight, eight months, 16 days, They asked me that shit, but I was like, damn. And I went on the yard one time, man, and I was like, I performed.
Starting point is 00:09:31 It was on a June 10th, you know, the little Cinco de Mayo, I believe. And I performed, and I were like, damn, man, this shit really, you know, it dawned on me after all them years that, man, I was really a superstar. That's what I felt it, like. But I never, because I still was running through the hoods, shooting heroin cocaine, getting high, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:09:53 Like, I was doing everything that a regular person do in the hood. You know what I'm saying? I ain't never said, I was on tour, but it never dawned on me down. I was a superstar, Don, like, I was a part of stardom, you know what I'm saying? It never dawned on us, brother, because we always, you know, just kept that humble spirit, you know what I'm saying? But we had signed a $30 million deal. Juvenile had them went, what, five-time platinum, you know, I'm all on his album. our boys double platinum triple platinum so but man we never got plaques and none of that shit so I'm like I never see it so like you know what I'm saying yeah until you know years and years as I got older and I'm like man this shit was for real yeah but if you're not really like paying attention bro like how I be saying right now man these little niggins don't know what they got how they they they but I have to think I was doing the same shit it just wasn't getting recorded you know what I'm saying right now I'm saying
Starting point is 00:10:53 They don't know it just like I didn't know They really don't know Like people like regular civilians They be like man these niggas all they know Why they wait till they get big To start doing all these dumb shit That's because they've been doing dumb shit It's just on a bigger scale
Starting point is 00:11:08 Right see what I'm saying So everybody's watching them right You know what I'm saying So I understand them bro Like it'd be hard bro Especially when you just got grabbed And it happening fast Now you don't have to really just do too much
Starting point is 00:11:21 You know what I'm saying You can wake up Yeah just wake up all night It is what it is So that shit happening fast So I overstanding young niggas You know what I'm saying I fuck with them
Starting point is 00:11:29 You know, I just wish they can see Before it's too late, dog Because now they're getting Real motherfucking alphabet numbers You know what I'm saying They ain't playing with them You know what they're taking their money They ain't giving them time
Starting point is 00:11:42 You know what I'm saying They're making a lot of money now You feel me So the stakes is way higher Yeah they got a lot more to lose I hope they see it before it's too late You know. Man, you, hey, that's a slippery slope right there.
Starting point is 00:11:59 I mean, you know some of them lessons, like you said, sometimes you try to give, you know, the younger generation the best advice, but some of them lessons ain't gonna be learned until they hit their head. They gotta go through it, man. They gonna have to go through it, just like we went through it, just like I went through it. I went to jail when I was 22.
Starting point is 00:12:18 You know, I had to shoot out with the police. Yeah. I was fucking with hell wrong and cocaine, you know they're doing what, perks and drink and shit now it's the same thing Michael Jackson, Jackson, Michael
Starting point is 00:12:30 is the same thing they're just doing it in a different farm you know, like CDs, MP3s you know, that shit switched up with this music, you know what I'm saying? The same thing, you have the same slur the same duck, you know what I'm saying, you have the same high, same effects,
Starting point is 00:12:45 stomach hurt, nothing's hurt, feel like you got three flus if you don't have it, you know what I'm saying, the same thing. But it's just crazy, bro, how how when people is in their life, the drugs come with it. And it's like, it's a fashion statement. It ain't, I'm not no dope thing. Like, I ain't never felt like I was a dope thing. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:13:06 It's been times where they just do drugs and dope on the stage. We're on a cashmoney, Rough Router tour, you know, throw it on a stage and pick it up. And bam, they knew what it was. You know, every city we went to, we gone in the hood. Marlute the King where the Mallo of the King Street We know it's a hood on the other side You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:13:22 Like we had a routine Just kept that mentality That was done They got street niggas worldwide You know what I'm saying And we just was living And you know You never saw it
Starting point is 00:13:33 That we was big bro Like Them niggas don't see it I know they don't see it You know And they won't see it Until they bang And it's too late
Starting point is 00:13:43 It's sad to say Hope they'll see this and, you know, take it for me, man, you know what I'm saying? One of the biggest groups in the world, y'all don't where to see. And they still mimic the hot boys, you know what I'm saying? They might not say it, but everybody got a little, uh, uh, every city out. Florida, Atlanta, you know what I'm saying? New York, down south out, up, no, I mean, West Coast everywhere, you're funny.
Starting point is 00:14:09 But, um, see, y'all had, that's what I'm saying, y'all had that appeal where it's like, once that shit broke, it was in every hood. Yeah, everywhere. This shit is like a soundtrack For a whole generation You know what I'm saying Facts, fact Then you know you got different
Starting point is 00:14:26 You got a whole different young nigga You got four different young nigga Jube would be in the old It's BG second B then Wayne Right So that's four different personality Then we was grounded by By Birdman
Starting point is 00:14:39 Like he gave us the game Right But you know what I'm saying We went in that motherfucker He gave us structure But we went in there and did we did what we seen what we were living
Starting point is 00:14:46 you know what I'm saying and that shit just worked out then you got man in fresh and what people don't know Slim is really the brains you know what I'm saying Slim he don't say nothing you don't never see him
Starting point is 00:14:59 but he the motherfucker they're calling all the shots ain't nothing ain't nothing happening without Slim you feel me but you know Birdman is the face the slim as the brains and we was just the tools
Starting point is 00:15:13 being used and you know what I'm saying It all made sense. Everybody I played their role, play their part. You know, I'm hoping and praying that we do a hot boy reunion, you know. Egos, you know what I'm saying? Like, it ain't 99, 2000 or more. Of course, we had our falling out and all this shit, you know, media here, media there. And motherfuck create headlines, Turks say this, Junevice, this, being you at the end of the day, we're family.
Starting point is 00:15:37 I'm like the nigga, now ain't tattooed in my chest. You know what I'm saying? Baby, slim. Hot boy cam on, all that shit all over me, you know what I'm saying? like I really got love for them niggas. You know what I'm saying? And if it's God's will, law of attraction, you're going to bring us back.
Starting point is 00:15:51 You feel? And we're going to do that. Yeah, it's got to happen, man. That shit was so big. It's a monumental shit, bro. We got to see it. I feel when 2000 come in it'll be all about, man, that shit.
Starting point is 00:16:02 This is going to crazy, man. Hey, he spoke that shit in existence. Real shit, bro. It was, just like he said it. I remember me and Wayne. This was a juvenile. and I was getting the Rolls, Rarses, and Bentley's, and me and Wayne was getting a little pet finders and Camaro's,
Starting point is 00:16:20 and we were like, man, fuck this shit. So, man, him, you know, we're like, you know, we like, man, fuck it, man, because P was buying his audits. Like, he was giving them niggas Rolexes. He were putting them niggins in houses, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. Well, he had a rapper starter pack. That's what I'm going to call.
Starting point is 00:16:37 He gave him a little bag, house, his house, and the fucking car. Yeah, love you. Y'all, houses, Rolex, and the fucking car. For young, nigg. like, shit, we don't got that nigga, we're in the hotel right now, you feel me? Right. Come in, man, Wayne used to fuck bitches in the hotel.
Starting point is 00:16:51 Shoney's in this shit, you know what I'm saying? Like, keeping their panning, nigga, I bet you I have more bitches than you at the end of the week. We're keeping their pan and see how many of the female, we're fucking at the end of the week and shit, you know what I'm saying? But, like, we used to be thinking like, man, look, if we go to pee, none of them
Starting point is 00:17:07 niggas could rap, they just got really mystical and fiend in me or heck. You know what I'm saying? That's how we're thinking they got mad. Everybody else went, you know what I'm saying? Bro, man, you, we can go and take over. Like, we're thinking like that, but, you know what I'm saying? We never just went on, but that's when, then we started getting broken on.
Starting point is 00:17:25 But juvenile at first, man, he used to walk in the mall and shit, bro. And we were walking them all that, that nigga, man. He was the star that shit. Drop baby, baby. He's like, man, look this shit, man. You know what I'm saying? But he had never probably met this shit. But juvenile was the biggest at one time.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Yeah. All how the shit unfolded, but really to be honest. this story never told BG really man was the one who got that damn Juvenile just happened to be clear minded BG at the time was going through
Starting point is 00:17:55 his demons and shit so it was a liability for the business Juvenile happened to have an album you know what I'm saying Bam bam bam but BG put the numbers up for them to get the attention on it wasn't Juven
Starting point is 00:18:09 and I don't think BG get enough credit you feel me nobody talk about it you know what I'm saying But BG was the one who had cash money down after, you know, everything before BG, you know. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? And juvenile just came with the album at the time and bam, bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It took on. Because I remember we went to the tunnel, right? And the first time we went, he performed the hunt. Man, the nigg was looking at us. I read it, throw bananas and tomatoes at us. You heard me. This is the tunnel, New York? Yeah, they were looking like,
Starting point is 00:18:39 so I'm like, damn. But everywhere else, you know, down south, They were like, fucking with it. So we were like, damn, the niggas ain't fucking with us in New York. New York, a hard crowd. Yeah, on anything. He did the remix with Jay-Z. We went back.
Starting point is 00:18:53 Everybody fucking was, like, you know what I'm saying? It were crazy, dog. I remember the nigga Puffet and 112, we all went in that with him. And the nigga, Puffet was drinking crystal way back in the days, early. And the nigga gave me some of the crystal out of the bottle. I was happy to be drinking that bottle after that. Yeah, you feel me. So it was like, you know, damn, we baby, man.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It's pre-pre before us. But I would happen, though. I would happen because I was a fan of, you know, big it, puffing, you know what I'm saying? But he was a fan of us, but he ain't know. And they gave me that Chris style bottom. I'm like, I want to keep that motherfucker. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:32 For real, like, you know, niggas don't be keeping it real, but I'm gonna keep it real, like I was a fan of the nigger, man. You know. It's dope to have moments like that, man. When you see motherfuckers and they fuck with you, the same way you fuck with them. Facts. They let you know you're on your right shit.
Starting point is 00:19:47 Yeah. Right, pad. You're like, I fuck, okay, cool, yeah. Yeah. That nigga was a fan of that nigga. That's all he talked about. Hot boy. Puffet stunned on us one time.
Starting point is 00:19:55 We was at Justin. Out here in that lounge, he had a club. He stunned it on you, man. Man, look, all us had Rolex is right. So, you know, baby had two of them. You know what I'm saying? He bam, bam, bam. Puffet, like, man, look, hold up.
Starting point is 00:20:09 I got one watch on, nigga. And the motherfucker had one. And one diamond in the urb cost more than all six of y'all watch to put together. It was a frank ruler back in the day. You know what I'm saying? The motherfucker was a million out of watch. You know, my Rolex were like $25,000, $30,000. He fucked us all, dog.
Starting point is 00:20:27 Baby said, man, listen, no nigger never outstunked me from that day following. That's where that shit came, bro. That's where this shit broke. That way can't. I promised you, bro. You just broke. You just broke the motherfucker's sound wave with that one, bro.
Starting point is 00:20:45 And that shit makes so much sense. That nigga Puffin' on, baby. Why he's stunning on? Us. Baby, like, fuck that. Man, listen. Ain't no other niggas gonna ever outstuck me. That nigger went stunt crazy, man.
Starting point is 00:21:04 That nigga bought 50 cars. I'm talking about literally. So that's where he became the number one stunt. That's what he became the number one stunt. It was, right, we were at just, It's the club, if y'all remember, it was a club called Justin. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:16 It was Busted around. They got picture float, Buster rhyme, Puff, man, you pull up on the Puppet, stunned it on us. Br, who was there? New face going to find the picture. It's a watch. It's a picture with me, all us,
Starting point is 00:21:29 Buster Rime on there. I don't think Puffet got in the picture, you know what I'm saying? He was stunting on us. Right, right, right. Because them niggas in New York, like y'all nitty. That's how they looked at us, for real.
Starting point is 00:21:38 Yeah, they did that. I'm going to be real. Like Pete and them came in the fascia suits And that shit was country Them shoes and all that We at the awards with T-shirt, Jibos And, you know, we were thugging You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:21:50 Yeah, so, you know, that was like Hood, niggas, you know what I'm saying? We really put the side on the map I don't get a fuck I fuck with Pete I did a song with them and everything No disrespect But Pee them represent the South country
Starting point is 00:22:00 Like, that ain't what we do You know what I'm saying Nigel, we come and we thugging You know, Jabeau T-Shirt Bandadas, you know what I'm saying You know like on the block Standing by the pay phone That's how we came, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:22:12 So, bam. Man, that nigger, that niggas stunted on us, and baby said, man, let's, after this, no nigger never outstumped me. He came the number one stunter, bro. Nick can't outstunt me when it comes to these motherfucking cars.
Starting point is 00:22:26 Hold on there. That's his love history, right there. That's crazy. That's fucking, wow. That's, that's puff it. For My Heart Podcasts and Rococo Punch, this is the turning, River Road. I knew I wanted to obey and submit,
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Starting point is 00:25:15 He was stunting on us the whole fucking night. He got the robe on with the slippers and shit, like in the suite. That was my first time seeing the suite, because we had double beds and shit, you know what I'm saying? I was like, damn, this nigga was Presidential Suite. We were back then, you know what I'm saying? So that would be, just think that's back.
Starting point is 00:25:35 I'm like, damn, they got all this shit going on. He come out with the rover and shit with the slipper. I'm like, I'm a group of years, right? You feel? I'm like, damn, this nigga's stunt. Because Baby used to stunt, but Puffet was stunting. Right, right, right. Like, you ain't talking about shit right now.
Starting point is 00:25:54 I got full beers, bitch. Listen, like this nigga, you're stunting and saying it, but this nigga's stunting and showing it, isn't it? You know what I'm saying? And, bro, it just was after that, man And they created a monster, man And Bird just went platinum grill With the eye-ha, he just went crazy
Starting point is 00:26:11 That nigga had 50 calls I'm talking about literally You know what I'm saying? Literally, like Youngbug just did an interview When he was saying something about, you know, them cars wasn't for Bird, man And this, this and that And I want to clear that up, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:26:27 We fuck with some niggas out of Nashville, you know what I'm saying, street niggas or whatever whatever, you know, and we, baby, fuck with them, you know what I'm saying? And they, them niggas had money. That's how we found out about, we was calling diamonds boogers. Because them y'all niggas had Rolex, and they used to call their diamonds the begets boogers, you know what I'm saying, big-ad diamonds. And baby got cool with them.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Twine flying in Nashville, men, twine spinning 80, all that shit there on the big time of Elm. He was talking about little Jimmy. And, um, Young Buck went on another show. I'm not going to say the name, and he was saying something about. man, all them calls was I was and this and this and there. First of all, they was legit. They wasn't theirs, you know what I'm saying? Jimmy and the rest of them, Buck was like, he was young, you feel me?
Starting point is 00:27:14 And, um, baby had a hummer. Jimmy them had a hummer. Baby had a jab. Jimmy them had, it was like a match for match, you feel me? And I don't want a nigga to just, because even though, like, we ain't like this, this, bro, I don't like niggas to just be sad shit about niggins. You get the wrong perception of shit. Like, them niggas, like, don't do that, bro.
Starting point is 00:27:34 Like, we're all family, you know what I'm saying? That's why this conflict shit keep going on because niggas are getting these blogs and go to, you know what I'm saying? Bam, bam, bam. Nah, man, keep it 1,000. Like, don't shit on each other, you feel me? At all, at one time, we all had to fake it till we make it.
Starting point is 00:27:50 Yes, we did. Faked it until we made. Who ain't do that? Everybody did that. You know what I'm saying? So don't try to shit on them. Yeah, that's how you make it. You know, that's how you make it.
Starting point is 00:27:59 You got to fake it. I ain't no making it without fagging him. Now you're gonna start up with every goddamn thing. There's no niggins starting off with it. I don't know if you're not gonna admit it. I'm not gonna support you if you already get a billion to tell you out with you. Right. Fuck you need my support for you got that that damn thing.
Starting point is 00:28:16 Yeah man that's just that's how I go. Bang shit with my money. Like us, bro, we gotta stop doing that with each other like divine and the conca like falling into these traps man you know what I'm saying. And want to see everybody together man. Let's win. We all faked it. Everybody had to make believe
Starting point is 00:28:32 Law of attraction, nigga, you know what I'm saying? You gonna get everything good, what you focus on and that's what wind up happening. Yeah. You know, so I wanted to clear that up, man, you know what I'm saying? Shout out to the whole Nashville Tennekekekeke, because they did inspire even Pimp and Kent. Like, I remember baby sitting down
Starting point is 00:28:49 talking to Pimp and King getting gained from, you know what I'm saying? Right. But that nigger is the number one stunt. I've never seen nobody do it like that nigger. Do it like Slim, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Like, that nigga, he is that, bro. Like, he is that, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:29:06 He didn't calm down now, but, you know, that's still my dog. But even though we went through what we went through, you feel me, it ain't no, no love loss or none of that, you know what I'm saying. The media get it twisted, start, you know, click baiting and all that shit. Doing their shit in that. You know what I'm saying? Doing what they do, but it ain't like that, man. You know what I came home, man.
Starting point is 00:29:27 Wayne, who gave me about four songs since I've been home. Right. Birdman did a song for me, you know what I'm saying, juvenile. Like, we all cool, bro. We just, you grow apart just because you don't see. We grown. I'm 40 years old. I'm saying.
Starting point is 00:29:41 I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. We all hold it right down. So they expect the internet got it to where they think, people think, are they supposed to be together, but that ain't how real life is. You feel me?
Starting point is 00:29:56 Niggas grow apart, man. Niggas got families. Nibis got these, business. and that, that, that, you know what I'm saying? So, me, you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? But we see each other. It's all love, man.
Starting point is 00:30:08 We ain't gonna kill each other, you feel me? So, you know, I think, you know, niggas got to stop letting these social media, man, trick them out of position, man, and really, like, start, you know, manning up on some grown-up shit, you feel? Yeah. We got to talk about this, man.
Starting point is 00:30:25 One of the most legendary hood movies of all time, bro. Ballad block. I showed my ass off and that, man. I came out of my shell, and my parts really was BG part. You know what I'm saying? But BG, like I say, that's my nigger, man. I can't wait until he come home. He'd be home in a minute.
Starting point is 00:30:46 Free BG. Yeah, BG free. I don't say free BG free. BG free. We're going to dress that too when I seen that. So y'all can understand the law of a train train. You know what I'm saying? But BG was going through what he was going through.
Starting point is 00:30:58 So, bam, I was. I was able to, it was an opportunity. So I was already like the last hot boy, so I'm like, fuck there, I'm about to come out my shell. I'm about to start, bam. And bam, that's what happened, man. I start coming out my shell, so that's why I was, like, I was hogging the parts and shit,
Starting point is 00:31:14 because I had a plan, you feel me. But of course, my drug addiction overpowered that plan and plan went sour, you know what I'm saying? But yeah, man, that's what wound up happening, bro. Like, I got a lot of parts that were supposed to be BG parts. You know what I'm saying? Shit, there was some big parts. Killed the mail, man, robbed the jury store.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Hell yeah. No, I know you didn't say no. Yeah, all that, all that worked in my favor, man, you know. So, yeah. We shot that move about 30, 45, 45 days, something like that. Man, that shit, right. It's a certified class. Who's the baller now, Woody?
Starting point is 00:31:54 Man, that nigga, that shit gets so high. Yeah, man, shout out to curly hair. Yeah. Man, that young and thugging. That's one of the ones, man. If you know, you know. Yeah. 20 anniversary, this year.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Yeah. I'm about to drop a whole other young and thugging. You know what I'm saying? Big thugging. Big thugging. Yeah. Then my label, you know, my whole empire is Y&T, that's young and thugging, you know.
Starting point is 00:32:22 I'm branching out, man. You know, this is my book. We'll see you're writing a book, man. Yeah, the book out. I got my more. You know, I'm about to be casting out here. You know, I'm gonna mind saying. I gotta get me one saying.
Starting point is 00:32:35 No. So the auto thugography of Turk, man, it's like a little... Give us a brief rundown, man. I'm talking about a live, like how my shit is. I got my documentary. I got my book. I got my movie.
Starting point is 00:32:48 What you don't get in the movie, you're gonna get in a documentary. You're gonna get in the movie. You know what I'm saying? So it's like, kind of like, bam, bam, bam. And I wrote all this when I was in prison, man. You know what I'm saying? Bro. I'm seeing people.
Starting point is 00:33:00 pictures of the old hood, man. Tell us what it was like coming up in that, in that hall and ass, Magnolia down in New Orleans, man. Like, in Katrina, man. Like, for real, for real, in Katrina, I was locked up, you know. Pre-Katrina. Before Katrina, shit, you know, I was in that bitch. Like I said, I was in the hood.
Starting point is 00:33:20 I was in the projects, though. Like, like, being a big rapper that I was, I still was in the hood. That's why I'd never seen that. I was a big rapper, you know what I'm saying? Because in the Wala, they don't treat you like a big rapper. They like, you're like cousin. You're my cousin, you're my uncle, you're my sister, you're my brother, whatever, whatever.
Starting point is 00:33:40 You know what I'm saying? We are all family. So I never really felt it, doll. Like, I felt that shit when I was in prison, you know what I'm saying? I was still running through the project, hallways, going to Skow Harrow on, Cocaine. You know what I'm saying? My niggas in shootouts and I'm picking them up. And, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:33:58 Just like I grew up. I'm saying. It wasn't nothing different, bro. And I wish it would have been different. I wish I would have seemed like, baby and Slim try to save me from the hood. But when they take me to Metery, soon when they go to New York to go meet with a universal,
Starting point is 00:34:14 I'm going back uptown. I ain't taking Wayne up there. You know what I'm saying? I think he'd rap about it on, man, I miss my dog, you know what I'm saying? So I still had the mentality that wanted to be in the hood and be around my niggas. You feel I never forgot where I came from, you know what I'm saying? But I see now what they was trying to do
Starting point is 00:34:32 Now that I'm old They were trying to get They were trying to save me Yeah, you feel me And let me see the bigger picture Now that I see it now Because my niggas, they still there I fuck with them
Starting point is 00:34:43 I love my niggas But now I make decisions Because my family and everything My priorities come first now And they were trying to get me To prioritize way back in the game You know what I'm saying But I didn't see it
Starting point is 00:34:54 Because I were young and dumb You know But um When you heard that Man I'm in the Miss my dogs, what was your immediate reaction to it? I felt like Wayne was really hurt for his on my part. If you really, like, listen to it,
Starting point is 00:35:08 that nigger, like, really went in his feelings on my part. You know what I'm saying? And it seemed like I heard him the most, but I don't understand why I heard him the most. And I love to have that conversation if I did, you feel me? It's like he expected more for me than B.J. and Jueva because me and him were like this, hell. Right.
Starting point is 00:35:27 You know what I'm saying? But the same thing that I did, he wind up doing. I ain't do nothing but left the label. And then he wind up doing the same thing. So as far as like our communication, like being like this hill, I don't know where that fell on track. I heard he say that I dissed him or something.
Starting point is 00:35:46 I probably did. I don't know. You know what I'm saying? But we all disched each other, you feel me? Like in our feelings on some shit, you know, saying this, saying that. You know what I'm saying? But, man, I got love for LeWain.
Starting point is 00:35:59 I got love for Juvic, BG, Birdman, Fresh and Slim. Right. You know what I'm saying? But it came a time in our situation where niggas didn't get what they were supposed to have, you feel me? Like, nigga, I'm going to have my plaque coming in. I'm just getting my plaques, you feel me? We wasn't tripping about that, but then as I thought about it, like, damn, I got plenty plaques out there. And I don't have nothing hanging on the wall.
Starting point is 00:36:26 You know what I'm saying? Nick, I just ordered my plaques, you feel me? So I'm like, at least a nigga should have got that. You feel me? Like if a nigga ain't get nothing, because the nigga really did put in work, you feel? Fuck all the personal shit and all this. We put it work, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:36:43 And I put in work. I was dealt, you feel me, the whole time. Nigger, you go through the album, they got tab version, that's my name. I wrote my own songs. I did my part. You feel me? And sometimes at times I don't feel.
Starting point is 00:36:56 feel like I was given the proper, you know, respect, you know what I'm saying, as far as that the label as contributing to, you know what went on, you feel me. You got to get your credit. Yeah, a Project Chief, Juvenile, that was my song, you know what I just redid it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I contribute to a ball of blocker, you know what I'm saying? I did the courage that were me. You feel me like, I contributed, so even though I was quiet at the time and I ain't talked much,
Starting point is 00:37:21 nigga, I, I contribute just as much as y'all contributed. Why are you blocking us, ball of blocking us? and that's why some of those feelings came from man when i used to rent when i first came home because a nigger was in they feeling like nigger i'm a part of this shit just as much as yada part of this shit you feel me yeah but then i start realizing like you know what people go take my shit the wrong way i can't control the narrative so let me stop really talking even though it's some real shit let me just stop talking because niggas might take it the wrong way i rather just sit down and let a nigger know what it is you feel me like that
Starting point is 00:37:55 Down, bam, bam. We'll have one-on-one, you know what I'm saying? And that's what wind up happening, you know what I'm saying? Me and baby wind up selling our shit out of court. You know, people don't even know what went on. I ain't talk about it, you feel me. Man, Wayne, you know, like everybody, we good. We're on mutual, you know, they there, they, da-da-da-da-da-da.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I'm doing me, you feel me. But I really do want this hot boy reunion shit, dog, but I'm not banking on that. You know what I'm saying? I'm not basing my life around that. You know, I got my own situation. my own career, my movie, Recklace, my book, The All-O-Turlis and Turk, my own.
Starting point is 00:38:31 That's what I was just about to ask you. I've seen Soldier Slim in him, man. Yeah, yeah, you know, Sores Slim was a big, major part in my life. He's the reason, one of the reason why I wanted to rap. I looked up the Soldier Slim, Magnolia, y'all know him that Soldier Slim. You know, we never got a chance to work together, but at one time, me and him was on the same record label. A lot of people don't know, you know what I'm saying,
Starting point is 00:38:53 called hype enough records, you feel me? and I remember us having a concert one time in the project, Magnus Limbaugh's perform. Bro, that's probably the first time I ever heard about you being on any other record label. Yeah, hype enough. We was hype enough. Nicky Dan Chill Will had the whole Uptown sign.
Starting point is 00:39:10 Before Birdman, Cheer Will had everybody. He had everybody before Birdman. He had everybody Uptown sign to him. Magnolia Schilder, Magnoy Shard, me, Leon, the Young Guns, the group I was in. What was the group you was in before the high It was called Young Guns. We were the Young Guns, before Young Gunners in the film.
Starting point is 00:39:30 I gotta get Newface something to do. He gonna find that. That's what we was. But you know, we was kind of like local, and we ain't never just put out no shit, it was some hood shit. You know what I'm saying, we had like hood concerts at the project, bam, bam, bam, bam.
Starting point is 00:39:43 That's what I had got my feet wet, you know what I'm saying. Magnolia Slim was a big inspiration, man. Like, everybody uptown mimicked Magnolia Slim. That nigga were really living like that. He's a real gangster. Give me your coldest, Magnolia Slim story. Magnolia Slim is just gangster all the way around, man. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:40:03 Like, every time we went to the River Bowl, Hallelujah, man. Like, he's going to start some shit, man. He'd once started this camouflage shit. Niggins thought Juvenile did it, but that was Magnolia Slim thing. The Reeboks, Magnolia Slim. The Gibbons, Magnolia Slim. Everything Magnolia Slim. Like, he started all that.
Starting point is 00:40:21 He had to say, pay close attention. face hold up my nigger i'm strangling up my shoelace on my black soldier reboxed and been through some shit with him got a fresh pair when it's time to bust a fit with him and he just was going all he was like these soldiers are made for walking and i'm gonna walk on you like he were raping out the reboxes and shit back in the days you know what i'm saying but he wasn't nation you'm saying then when he went to pee of course you know it's like callio magnolia's like politics in the streets, Magnolia Slim, man, it wasn't going to
Starting point is 00:40:58 go right, because Pee from Calio. See what I'm saying? And that's another story where I let them explain, you know what I'm saying, but that's some street politics shit. So Slim became soldier slim, not Magnolia. Street politics shit, Magnolia and Calio they like
Starting point is 00:41:14 bam, you know what I'm saying, some real street shit going on. You know, but, you know, it was business, wouldn't he bam, bam, you know? and Magnolia Slim the whole Uptown wanted to be slim Like he was like He was like
Starting point is 00:41:28 I would know his Tupac You know what I'm saying That's what Magnolia Slim was You know what I'm saying Shout out to his son Um, little soldier Slim He's doing his thing You know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:41:38 Yeah Jack Joe be going off too Mm-hmm Yeah My nigga six shot Six shot of all these niggas Man S-B-O-G-T Like
Starting point is 00:41:48 Will had all of us bro you know what I'm saying Then Birdman can't You know, Byrd had the bag, man. So it was a privilege, man. They get signed to cash money, man. Yeah. You know, for me to be able to make that happen,
Starting point is 00:42:01 like I said, I was a young nigga that had determination, man. Couldn't nothing stop me. You know what I'm saying? And when I signed with them, it was like, you know, I told y'all, you feel me. I told y'all niggas, man, you know? Told y'all niggas. Man, welcome back to the 85 South Show, man.
Starting point is 00:42:20 We ain't here today And what a dirty South legend, man Hip-hop legend Man, y'all made a big-ass mark in the music game when y'all came in this bitch, man It really changed a whole lot of the landscape, man Like And made everybody listen to it, bro
Starting point is 00:42:39 What was that Rough Riders to it like, man? Oh man, that Rough Riders Toll like, man? That was your first one? Yeah, nah, it wasn't our first biggest one with another big label, you know what I'm saying? It only made sense. They needed the South, we needed up north. Right, right.
Starting point is 00:42:55 So it was like a business move, and it was just perfect, you know, and we used to get in these baskets and shit to get to the helicopter. I remember the helicopter. Hell yeah, yeah. We're getting the helicopter throwing the money down and come out the helicopter to bail. Man in Fras, you know, he was a freak. He had his big-ass condom on the stage and he sprained the bitches and shit with the condom. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Big-ass shit, they're crazy. So we had all the props and shit. Hold up, man. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, turk, wait. He had a big ass kind of blow up condom on the stage, you know. They don't pull the girls up on stage? But the way you said it, like, we were supposed to know, y'all know Manifresh or Freak. He had a minute. I mean, just listen to y'all.
Starting point is 00:43:35 We're talking about the dick and talking about fucking, like, that's all his rap. Big Dick down the drawers, and that's all he's saying. That's all so he was his problem. He had the big dick with the water come out like there's nothing. That was his idea. He was him. Hey, we're my big dick. Yeah, we're my big dick for the water.
Starting point is 00:43:53 Hey, I got my big dick prop, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, make sure they got water. Come on, man. So, Baby had the crystal bottle, hot boy. We had, you know, the helicopter and shit. So it was just every, it was our lifestyle. Our stage set was our lifestyle, you know what I'm saying? Wayne coming out the ground,
Starting point is 00:44:10 me, Juven, B.G. was coming in the helicopter. Because Wayne used to come out with his shirt off and shit. He thought he was iron chest Charlie or something, you know what I'm saying. So, you know, Baby and Fresh come out to Rolex. Rolex open up, you know, and it just would love, man. Fresh used to say some cold shit,
Starting point is 00:44:27 though. That nigger said, he turned around. They said, man, they bought a private plane. Yeah. Turn around. It's something. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yeah. Hey, now some of that shit, you know, nigger fabricated. I'm just saying this is some of this, it's some colorful shit. But yeah, we love to hear it. A lot of this shit, though. Like.
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Starting point is 00:47:24 Because if a nigga bought a private plane and put some 30-inch Lorenzo's on that thing, the nigga is, you're not landing there. You don't want that plane to take off. That motherfucker ain't going to no way. That bitch gonna be pretty on the ground. You bet not try to tuck them fucking 30-inch Lorenzo's on their private plane. Hey, but you know, like I say, man,
Starting point is 00:47:44 nigga talked about this shit, but niggas start living that shit. shit for real, but like words is life and debt is in the power of the tongue. Why never shoot videos in the gray? Y'all are talking about debt and that shit is for real the law of attraction is obedient. Whatever
Starting point is 00:48:00 you want, good or bad, it's going to manifest, you feel me? I kind of like knew that at an early age. I don't know if you ever heard this book called The Secret, man, you know what I'm saying? They got a documentary called The Secret. Y'all owe me too for this. But
Starting point is 00:48:16 Anyway, man, you watch this on Netflix, brother. It's going to open your mind up to who you really are as a person. You know what I'm saying? Like, the person is not who you are. You know what I'm saying? The person is the imagination who you made yourself to be, you know. But we really, our true nature is awareness. When we become aware of things, we move a little different.
Starting point is 00:48:40 Certain things don't bother us no more. People talking. Man, what you're talking about? That ain't me. You feel me? That's you. You feel me? So that's what I'm on.
Starting point is 00:48:48 I'm on the law of attraction. That's the secret in the world, bro. And a lot of the elites, they don't want us to know these things, you feel me? So they keep us divided. They keep showing differences. You got on white and black shoes. You got on yelling. That's what they do.
Starting point is 00:49:06 So keep us their eyes to see the big picture, bro. You know what I'm saying? And to be honest, like we all can be whatever we want to be, bro. We focus on it. You know what I'm saying? And I learned that when I was doing time, I had attempted murder on two police, white police officers.
Starting point is 00:49:22 And I had 22 years, man. And my mindset was like, I read this book, Free Rail Rick and Ross, the real Rick Ross told me to read, Thank You Grow Rich as a Man, Thank It, and the richest man in Babylon. Yeah. Now, a lot of people think these books
Starting point is 00:49:38 is strictly about money, but what I learned, the same method that apply to money, apply to life, you feel me? So if you can manage your life, you can manage your money. So where the word money is, I just put freedom, you feel me. And, man, I start executing them and doing the things that this book say, man, and I wind up coming home, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:49:58 So I've been on that type of time ever since, daw, and a lot of stuff been manifesting in my life, you know what I'm saying, as I've been grown up, you know, I had forgave people that at first I were bitter towards, you feel me? I think a little different. I see things as who I really am. I'm a spiritual person. Right. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:50:15 Like this flesh ain't nothing but experience. You feel what we experience through this world, through this life, you know what I'm saying? But when you start thinking like that, man, you're like, you just be habit, but nothing can make me mad, man. Like nothing, you feel me like, nothing. Not saying that I don't go through the emotions, but I'm aware of the emotions, so I know how to say, you know what? I know this is the emotion, so bam, bam, bam, bam, I'm going to deal with it according to you, you know what I'm saying. So when you get to that level, it's like, okay, I didn't know. arrive now. Now let me go ahead on
Starting point is 00:50:46 and revisit. Okay, now I'm about a, I say I want to be a big now before this is what I'm gonna be, you know what I'm saying? Right. All the traction, you know, but everything that I went through, bro, I wouldn't change a fucking thing that I went through, you know, nobody that I dealt with, you know what I'm
Starting point is 00:51:02 saying, while I was going through it, you feel me? It just was an experience, man, that I had to go through. This is, on the book, right? Yeah, the auto thudography of Turkmen. Raw and uncut. A lot of shit in Now, you know, of course, I didn't put too much in that because, like I said, it's three parts. You know, I had to, I'm a business man at the end of the day. I can't rap forever, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:51:24 But I can tell these stories forever. You know what I'm saying? The stories will never change. They're always going to be the same. Ain't no flaw in my character, even though a nigga bite, try to put it on now. But, you know, nitty you can say what you want to say, you feel me? It facts over feeling. You feel me.
Starting point is 00:51:40 So, you know, we're here, bro. You know what I'm saying? I'm just living my life, man, married now. I got twins. I told me, I got twins. Congratulations, my blood. How you liking that? That's what you like, man.
Starting point is 00:51:51 Love it, love it, love it, love it, man. I came home, I told me I'm about to go home to make twins, but I came home, I made twins, bro. I got spoke that shit in existence, man, like the power of the tongue, bro. I'm trying to go home and make some twins. You better watch that shit, I'm telling you. I'm telling you, I believe it.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I'm saying. That shit is for real, bro. Like, like, see, what it is. the manifestation part come from what you focus on that's what manifests in your life so if you focus on it and you believe it with feelings
Starting point is 00:52:23 we're God man we live God though you know what I'm saying I don't want to get all spiritual with y'all no do you think you know what I'm saying we live God we're like we are creators you feel me so when we say stuff we're feeling and we believe it though it actually
Starting point is 00:52:40 manifests right where it's good or bad it manifests Like, like, niggas got to be aware of that type of shit, though. Like, everything that's happening right now, nigga, this was manifested. This ain't just, you know, happening like this. You know what I'm saying? So, just be ready for it when it happened, bro. You know, like I said, I wouldn't change.
Starting point is 00:53:01 Nothing. It made me into the person that I am, you know what I'm saying? Before I had that shootout, I OD two times. Damn. And less than 48 hours. And I got on my knees, bro. I prayed. I said, I'm going to stop doing heroin and cocaine.
Starting point is 00:53:17 They'd be life-threatening. Three days later, the police kicked in my dope. And they shot 52 times, bro. Like, literally, the SWAT team, you know, they come in that bitch. They're paying it. 2.23 MP 40, 40s, 12 gauges. That's what they shoot. So, in my trial, I found out it was 52 inches in exit holes.
Starting point is 00:53:39 I'm in the closet. I'm thinking I'm being robbed. You know what I'm saying? I don't know who are they. I'm protecting, you know, the house, man, my girl. So I see all black scheme, man. Boom, boom, boom. So they start busting.
Starting point is 00:53:51 We have a shootout, you know what I'm saying? Bam, after all that happened, I come out of the closet. And I told my girl, I say, man, I'm shot. She said, you will? I don't know. I'm asking her because, nigga, I just knowing I'm shot, but I'm just, you know, adrenaline and just rushing, you know what I'm saying? I'm knowing my face just got bullet holes in it.
Starting point is 00:54:10 I'm knowing that. She's like, motherfucklers, the police start hiding. I'm like, oh, police here. So I'm thinking the police thing came and got the robbers, you feel me? Then motherfuckers start cursing and all that. I'm like, now it's starting to dawn on the ammo. We had to shoot out. Well, I didn't have to shoot out with the police.
Starting point is 00:54:29 You feel me? So, they made her come out, crawl, bam, bam, bam. Made me come out, they beat me like a motherfucker. I wish two poppers hit a seed. They say that shit. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, what the fuck? So in my mind
Starting point is 00:54:41 Nick I had on my boxes No shirt, I don't know nothing I'm like I ain't about to get in that police call you know I'm thinking they're going to kick it I'm thinking all kind of crazy shit They ain't gonna take me to jail
Starting point is 00:54:53 They're gonna try to kill me You know what I'm saying So I started acting like my neck was hurt You feel like Her neck fucked up So they put me in an ambulance You know what I'm saying They bought me to the hospital
Starting point is 00:55:03 It's cold out there in Memphis You hear me So bam I get in the hospital Bro, so many police Aunger came in there, they're motherfuckler They were like, the demons and the devil's just coming through that motherfucked. They're looking at me.
Starting point is 00:55:16 I'm handcuffed to the bed. They're like, you're a blood. You're a vice lord. You're a Crip. What that's that mean? I don't know nothing about them. I don't know games, you know, because we don't got that in New Orleans.
Starting point is 00:55:25 They probably got it now, but we ain't had that. I'm going to put you by the vice lord. I'm going to put you by the Crip. What the fuck is dead? I don't know. You know what the fuck is dead. You shot my police officer. This is before I know the police was shot.
Starting point is 00:55:37 I didn't even know. on. So I'm like, man, I ain't, I ain't do shit. What y'all talking about? Man, them people are so mad at me, brother. They put on a 40-hour investigation. Let my girl and my home bar go who was with me. And I were locked up. She went to trial. I found guilty in the feds, took an alpha play in the state. Bam, I wound up there, eight months, 16 days, you know what I'm saying? That's what it was. But I'm going to tell you how fucked up niggas is, though. And I don't like that. to even talk about this nigger because
Starting point is 00:56:10 the nigger doing skits and shit about snitch and shit I ain't gonna say who we are but the nigger really like getting paid off a skits that's really real how he really was you feel me and the nigger really sunk the people on me. I told the people I had two kilos of hair on an AK4
Starting point is 00:56:26 to 7. You know what I'm saying? They need to hurry up and that's what made the police come in my house but the nigger is actually managing the nigger right now and I'm not going to say Oh, yeah, but y'all all that laughed at this nigger jokes. Nigginsched on me.
Starting point is 00:56:46 I'd be so mad, bro, I'd be wanting to say something so bad, but I'd be like, you know what? This nigga joking about this shit, nigga. I didn't did all my, I didn't. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't time about this shit. But how the world's so fucked up right now, they're like, if I come out and say some shit by this nigga, oh, he's just hating.
Starting point is 00:57:03 They wouldn't even believe, they don't, the world want to be deceived, but they don't want to be, they don't want you to tell them to the real. So real niggas got to be quiet and don't say nothing. Like, I don't fuck can I control in there. Damn, turt. Then I can speak on it.
Starting point is 00:57:17 You feel me? I be holding it in, but I be watching this nigger. And you know who you are. You feel me? Yeah, you know who you is. But I won't get this because they, that nigga go viral and get a platinum record because they fucked up these.
Starting point is 00:57:35 They fucked up. They loved fake. fake deception. They love that shit, bro. You know what I'm saying? Real niggas can't win unless we stick together and start our own shit.
Starting point is 00:57:46 You feel me? God damn, boy. Man. That's just a half of it, dog. Where can they find this book at? My book, like, I went through a publisher, right? I mean, a publisher, and
Starting point is 00:58:00 found out she was trying to be conniving, you know, like, I'm too old to be getting over on that. Let's partner up Let's do some shit any kind of snake shit. I'm out the gate checking it, you feel me? That's what she did. Trying to charge me extra for wholesale books or all that extra. There's a lot of shit.
Starting point is 00:58:17 But I wind up taking it off her shit. Man, look, release me from this. She ain't wanna give me the PDF files, right? So I'm like, damn. So me and my wife, my wife's smart. Motherfunk, she's my charge partner too. You know, bam. She figured out, nigga we typed that bitch up.
Starting point is 00:58:33 I went through Lulu.com. Shout to Pimp and Ken, man, because he's been selling his book for the long. it's independent and making millions of dollars just doing that shit you feel me independent you know what I'm saying
Starting point is 00:58:42 I made 600,000 selling them books nigga through the pandemic I sold 20,000 books you know what I'm saying 30 dollars I'm gonna make a million off these bitches this year
Starting point is 00:58:52 you feel me you damn sure I'm gonna sell 40,000 these motherfuck I'm made 1.2 million dollars off these motherfuck this year you know what I made
Starting point is 00:58:59 600,000 that's how I moved Atlanta bro you feel in the pandemic nigga I moved in the pandemic I ain't my house
Starting point is 00:59:06 brand new from ground up, you know what I'm saying? I moved, I bought that motherfucker. Bro, you're the second person that come in here with a brand new house. I'm out here about a youth. Motherf-the-ffuck. Nica had to be living in my shit for you, man.
Starting point is 00:59:20 It's brand new, brother. It was like a blessing, dog. Like, it ain't no excuse for a nigga to be broke because social media have made it easy. Right. Like, they got apps. I got my agent. I got my own agency for this app called Up Live, right?
Starting point is 00:59:35 Niggas make it $40,000 a month. Regular niggins. Only thing you got to do, go live, you go live and get money, you get paid. Y'all n'all are on live and y'all ain't getting paid for it. Now you get paid, Bego, up live, tag. I'm about to download some of that shit, right?
Starting point is 00:59:52 You get paid for this shit to go live, right? It's motherfuckers already on that? Niggas. All the Braxton's on the motherfucker. Shikana, fucking, everybody on that motherfucker. Y'all just ain't on. You ain't told me.
Starting point is 01:00:05 I just heard about me Listen I'm on there tonight Listen I'm on there tonight Hey man I'm gonna put y'all down on it But it's all kind of ways
Starting point is 01:00:14 To get money, like it ain't no excuse for a nigga To be broke unless they're lazy Right Social media have made it to where You can become rich overnight It's the same niggas That I'm getting in contact with
Starting point is 01:00:26 You can get in contact with now It's all about the power of negotiating If you're not a talk You know what I'm saying You can't demand nothing from no nigger You feel me? You got to be a little. able to talk to a nigga
Starting point is 01:00:36 and get what you need. Right. You know what I'm saying? And use social media to do it. You feel me? You can make a lot of money. Merch, books. Shit.
Starting point is 01:00:48 Podcasting, hosting. Yeah, we're right here with it. 85-self show, you feel me? Podcasting. Everything. Everything. Get your money. If people don't know on IG
Starting point is 01:00:59 now, they got it, you know, on YouTube where you can monetize your video. Yeah. I know all about it. You put your video on TV and they monetize on there. You don't need to have 10,000 followers or subscribers to monetize
Starting point is 01:01:11 put your content on fucking Instagram and get you a bag. They got the badges where your fans can support you, you feel me? I'd have made thousands of dollars on that motherfucker if you're eligible. You feel me like the money is out there. You need to listen to people that's out there telling
Starting point is 01:01:27 you this and don't think that everybody that's giving you game is a scam, man. Because I thought that. Nick came me, he a game. And he's like, man, look, you'll be on social media, you can be making money for this shit. Nigger, I ain't been on Instagram for free since, nigga, you know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:01:44 For real, a nigga showing me the check. Nigger just got me in my agency. That nigga made $77,000 to his first month. And I'm a celebrity. He's a regular nigga, you feel like? That nigga ain't regular if he makes $7,000 a lot of money. I don't give a fucking nobody to say, man. He ain't an ordinary nigger.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. It's, bro. Man, I love my Chinese people. I don't know what y'all got going on with that hate Asian shit, but them people breaking us all about to love y'all. Man, you know what they got going on, but them people paying us, man.
Starting point is 01:02:16 Damn. I'm telling us. Because it's like a human Fortnite game, you know what I'm saying? You don't play Fortnite, your kids probably do, but call a dude and all that shit is a human caller dude's a Fortnite game. You ain't that bitch and you're playing, you just doing what you doing.
Starting point is 01:02:30 People throwing gifts on, you ain't convert to real money. You know what I'm saying? That's all it is. Play the game, get in there. What y'all are doing right now I'd be getting money if I was on live. Right now, I'd be getting money then. Matter of fact, we get paid at 12 o'clock.
Starting point is 01:02:45 You got getting money. We get paid. We get paid on Bigo. Shut up. We're getting money right now. Yeah. Yeah, for real, bro. So, like, it ain't no excuse for people to get money
Starting point is 01:02:58 every chance you get. Y'all can follow me. I got my own agency, Y-N-T agency, on Instagram. I'm plugging everybody. This shit better than the PPP loans, man. What I'm saying? Shit better than that. You ain't gonna go to jail for this.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Then it's tax-free. You feel me? I'll let me, I'm gonna put you in. You feel me? I'm bro. Turt. Man, we appreciate you coming through the motherfucking trapped up, man. I appreciate child, bro.
Starting point is 01:03:23 Bro. You got to sign this book, man. Man, you don't already know what it is. Man, I got to show up y'all. Sign the table, too, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Man, we're gonna get the table, sir. Man, we're gonna get the table,
Starting point is 01:03:34 K-K- what? K-A-R-L-U-S. Hell yeah, man. Y'all see what it is there live and direct, nigger. Original motherfucking H-B-B-L-L-M-A-B-G, man. B-G-E-G-F-E-E-C-E, because that's like we're asking. And B.G. Free, look, he's already here, man.
Starting point is 01:03:51 A lot of y'all got it misconstrued, and y'all had the wrong interpretation when I said that. Talking about, man, Tert, won't clout. Nick, I am clout. I don't chase clout. Come on, man. You feel me? Y'all got to understand what clout is, man.
Starting point is 01:04:03 Cloud is a motherfucker that's trying to get on. Nick, I didn't been on, nigga, you know what I'm saying? Y'all, a lot of y'all won't be where I'm at, man, if y' y'all don't fucking listen, you feel me? BG free, nigga, and that's what they're going to be. Straight like that. If you don't understood, you don't understand. Nick, straight like that, you feel me?
Starting point is 01:04:20 Yeah. Bro, I was in the club the night cash money records took over for the 9-9 in the 2000. You don't even fucking understand what the fuck that shit mean. I bought everything, everything. My nigga Chad in the back, like, his favorite high boy song is Keisha.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Dog on Hot, I wonder what's over Keisha tonight. And give my calls, see if it's all right for me to swim She said it's on breathing First I gotta find somebody to watch my baby She said it's all good I beat her in a minute She didn't know why when Wayne was already hitting Yeah
Starting point is 01:05:00 Shout out to Wheezy, man You already know what it is My little bro for life man You know, ya anything that y'all probably heard Man listen man I love my brothers You know what I'm saying And it is what it is man It ain't no beef with us man y'all stop trying to do that
Starting point is 01:05:17 Y'all had so many legendary moments and songs Tuesdays and Thursdays is one of my all-time favorite, man. A whole lot of days of the week. And it still is. Shout out to Bank Road, man. That was my little bro, man.
Starting point is 01:05:32 He didn't did that fucking bawling like a hot boy, man. We're about to shoot a video for that motherfucker, bro. That song, we're going to put us right back for the hot boy shit, man. Shout out to Bank Street, the whole street. It let me do the official bank road. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 01:05:47 and steal my niggas song, man, dedication to bank where I shot it on Smith Street, right by his grandma house, man. I appreciate that, man. The whole street money, you did. Hell yeah. Turk, don't let this be the last time you start through this trapp. Come on, man.
Starting point is 01:06:02 I'm out. You know exactly what we at, man. For real. This is the 85 South Strong week. Out of it. My man, no, let's get a prison. My God. Shoot it up.
Starting point is 01:06:14 Good job, man. Hell yeah. Roy. shoot the photography oh, three, one, two, three one more, one, one, two, three Yeah. They get my arm lying, brother.
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