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You know the black folks water used to be sugar water
Right
Man, congratulations on everything.
What, man?
Fucking that shit up, man.
It's really working, man, running.
You wanted this?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he wanted that.
Yeah, man.
He was the one who put me up on your music,
years ago, man.
Like, for real.
I appreciate that shit, man.
For real.
He'd been told me that shit.
Word.
Wow, wow.
I was like, yep, you called that one.
He'd be no one, bro.
That'd be no one, man.
That's hard, man.
How long you've been down in the city?
I just got down here this morning.
Yo, yesterday, what?
No, but I went home yesterday, but I was in New York
like probably two days ago.
Down that bitch is moving around.
Man, geez, you got a video shoot Thursday,
so I'm gonna be down that bitch's in.
Do some quick shit, you heard.
You know, Snow or legend, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, he used in Detroit, too.
I didn't know he had that, like, a porn.
Man, that nigga big down that bitch, bro.
Like, he really huge.
I didn't know.
Like, I didn't know until I came to the city and seen.
Like, they had a concert.
That's a huge concert.
Niggas was like, at, uh, what's the mall?
My mom out there.
Somerset.
That's how you know that nigga.
That's how you know that nigga, that's how you know a nigga,
that's how you know what's the Somerset.
Yeah.
Oh, you know, that's what I mean.
You know what I'm saying?
You know what I be.
I be in Fairfield, too.
No, no.
It's all the way.
Man, I'm all the way.
Listen, I was all the race,
Detroit, nigger.
Man, if I wasn't a D.C., I'd definitely
this.
Shit.
All the way.
It's here.
I love the city.
No regular one.
Got it.
You got yak on that bitch.
That nigga yack hard, man.
That boy went hard.
My boy went hard.
My nigga those bitch is.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Chico, man, all we do is goddamn bring ghetto legends through the trail.
We got a real ghetto niggas, man.
You heard?
We got a ghetto legend in this bitch.
My motherfucking nigger when I tell you, man.
We ain't ready yet.
We got to set the atmosphere, bro.
What do you want to hear?
Man, whatever.
I'm on whatever, man.
You heard?
Play jack artists, niggas.
Yeah, play jack cards.
Yeah, play jack cards.
You know we got to get a couple land before we do it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Get this motherfucking atmosphere right, you feel me?
Yeah.
You man, I ain't no type of nigga that go to work
and just be working the whole time.
You feel me?
I'm gonna take my goddamn time.
You know, I'm on black people's times.
Give me some volume, bro.
This nigga here, man.
I'm a jack artist.
Yeah, I'm a man literally, bitch I jack artist.
Make yourself sound like a cat started.
I just rob a nigga for Timbole and got a trap start.
They got a trap start.
I'm about to track arkin.
Now he's back walking.
All that, yeah, fucking round double back, all that back paddle.
I pull up and take a nap, let the ass settle.
He's talking crooked headshot leaving it.
Damn.
Try to pull it up, trying to stack cheddar.
Pay me, but I'm a crack seller.
Who else are new, honey rack some tether?
On tether.
You're half stepping.
You get ass geared.
You're ass parity.
You act like a scared to turn it up, though.
You're on restriction?
You're on restriction?
I'm always being the shit like I ran to race.
Hey, you just stand a hate.
Talked fana great.
Like a cat of paint.
I made a lot of blues fucking with that tank.
Free Rio, man.
Most definitely.
Free Rio.
Free Rio.
They're a nigga legend.
Straight up.
30,000 on me.
30,000 on me.
My right-wrecked in the strip club, not a party over.
That nigga said poppin'nick at the strip club, not a party over.
That that nigga Rio is bad.
That nigga Rio is bad.
You can fuck any bitch.
You got 44.
Mud, baby.
Yeah, yeah.
Get that mud baby next name.
That mud baby.
Mud baby next name.
I play that in the birthday.
Yeah.
When the A Guy had to top down, let that shit play all way through.
That's one of them songs too.
That's one of the ones.
Oh, my kids.
Yeah, you pull up at the gag.
Nick, don't even know.
You can't hear the word.
They're gonna just slapping in the troll.
I remember you pulled up up in that mud baby.
This shit is.
Yeah.
This is what I do.
I play this at ignorant level.
Yeah, he got two.
You would have thought I was in that.
that bitch with you.
That licks ain't put up in a vert with that bitch.
Oh, hell yeah, no bullshit.
Yeah, I know.
Yeah, I know.
But the cops.
Hop was like a butler.
I just went to shit.
Goofy nakes trapping for three weeks and still ain't shit.
I got so much flogging this new rodey like a...
No 30 cents.
We were out 41.
A day and date a bitch.
Made me like five million in one year.
Mitch, I was late for this.
Fump and talking.
Never do no lack of ever spray the bitch.
Flash in a jury at your show.
We come and take this shit.
Damn.
Oh, bitch, I do major shit.
All this jewelry light up my own neck like the Vegas trip.
Real roster bought me a new mansion cause me ages.
You in the streets and still ain't touched the meal.
You want some lazy shit.
Crack and see a friend to drink at all.
Ain't on no savings shit.
Meigs offend to you with that deal or I love that bathing shit.
Hit the road, took 10,000 pills.
We ain't bang it.
She told my bitch she stuff it in her coochie had the training.
Trrenched to work.
Do this shit like yoga.
That's my trainer bitch.
Turn that chopper up like a little kid.
I've been a spank some shit.
You the opposite of number two that me you ain't the shit
And the club throw me up 10 racks, I love a raining shit
Ghetto girl and she got a fatty, that's my favorite bitch
Got the same bottles in my kitchen at my babysit
Got a sketching on me, a whole 30 in the paint shit
My mama said I got some screws loose
I need some maintenance
Private jet, over here first class ain't on no basic shit
Fucked around and got another I'll be on the waiting list
All my homies play in the background because they ain't legit
A lot of habits need to quit my house
I can't be taking this.
Ooh, yeah, I never fake a stick.
Pull me up with three in a crissola.
It's a fango twist.
Niggas in the game and falling out on some flavor shit.
How you game, go against the guys that is plagiarist.
Popa's Latin, mix it with a flat, love the Zamen shit.
Ella shooters blow shit like a hookah, love a vapor shit.
I told her I can't love you like my drink,
but love your nakedness.
This shit, paying off, that's what patience gets.
You got that same water in here.
I feel like stepping out.
Yeah.
Feel healthy like you're doing the right shit.
Hell yeah, I feel like I'm doing the right thing.
I feel healthy hold in me this shit.
Man, yeah.
I got a post.
This is a hell of a trap.
Man, what?
This is in a trophy, man.
Alright, last one, give me Mufasa.
I'm gonna take him back.
Damn.
Yeah, I'm gonna take him back to that country.
Yeah, that's my name.
Okay, man.
Give me Bufasa.
Damn.
Yeah, that's what we do round this motherfucker man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We back like spines.
Like Spans.
Fuck.
Yeah, sir.
Yeah.
Yeah.
One.
Come on.
Man, that's first one of the first
all I dropped when I got out to fit.
I know, nigga.
I swear to God.
I know.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So much ice on my arm might go blind for you.
Put the O on my back in my back.
And I signed for it.
I'm the reason niggins on that chicken talk.
Oh, my dog money and bought chicken talk.
Yeah, took it off.
Yeah, took it off.
I intimidate these niggins that came out game.
Oh, you can't come on you.
Oh.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I got shooter than a bull you like the wine black.
All little rooches on my feet got a toe fetish.
Made a little mochaise.
My man, man,
man, this nigga is talking.
Shit, nigger.
Oh, leag.
We're gonna take our own army that defeat me, nigger.
B Street.
B Street.
B Street.
We cast that Motown chick up the clue chop.
Hey, the pussy-assi-assi and a croup-a.
Man, we were going to this shit in the Porsche that night.
Yep.
Motherfucker, man.
Mofasa, man.
Like soup-pasa, nigger.
Like soup-pasa, nigger.
I'm like, damn, it's like 30 fids.
Yeah.
Damn.
Yeah.
I see niggins interviews.
They don't mention me.
Ugh.
Ugh.
Digger.
Damn.
I was talking spicy with me.
Yeah.
Damn.
What fucking man I...
Yeah.
Yeah.
Honey than my shoes got that kid on.
Ugh.
Digger.
Damn, I was talking spicy on that bitch.
I ain't gonna lie, yeah.
I fucking.
God about that bitch, bro.
You did?
I didn't.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Bufasa thing.
I'm telling you, still.
Like, all the way, man.
Man, I swear to God, bro.
All right, you gotta do one more then, she goes.
One more?
Yeah, one more.
Boy, shit, give me a hundred K then.
We gonna stay on this.
We're gonna stay on a hundred K.
You can't be forgetting about this shit.
Like that.
That bitch, one of them, bro.
Come on, man.
Take.
Take God.
One more for the street, chig.
Just for the street, chag.
This is just to show how deep you are in these streets, Chico.
Give me 100K.
Man.
Man, that nigger knows something, man.
Bro, no something.
Man, that's what I'm saying.
I didn't roll through Detroit, nigger.
No, you beat on that bitch for real, bro.
Moving around through that bitch, too, though.
I ain't gonna lie.
Goochie.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Goochie.
Naga.
Nika.
You're something.
Yeah.
Always in the hood.
I ain't high from nuts.
Skoo, skur, skur, skis.
Yeah.
Chains of nothing, nigger.
Man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My nigger.
Boom.
Boom.
Think, if you ain't, if you ain't never heard this in a way, if you got some shit in your whip,
nigger, put this on.
Man.
Nigger.
And your motherfucking rip you murren going to start twerking.
They're gonna start twerking, nigga.
Yeah, it's gonna get money, dude.
This shit gonna run it up right here.
Yeah.
Your shit ain't hitting until your mirror fall off.
Who's at the door with me in the mirror fall off.
You back with me when the mirror fall off.
When the rear view mirror, Jay, fall off.
I see your nigga, start me, come get close, we come home.
Yeah.
I see that out of your stuff.
Ah.
I'm not a surprise.
Yeah.
Coss with the games, ain't no love on this side.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm gonna'all in a bitch,
my n'all.
I saw Richard Millie got it dug in my twist.
I'm gonna fuck with you, I'm gonna fuck with you,
I don't love in a bitch,
damn.
Like I'm blind.
My nigger.
Always in a-thouin' thine, my nigger.
Time, my nigger.
My nigger use an opt so you hide some niggas.
She go to A&O.
She go to A&R, man.
You say who?
She go to A&R.
For real, bro.
I ain't gonna lie.
That nigger put your dumb assailist together.
Oh, that nigger.
Yeah, nigger.
That nigga, she'll be moving around through the D, like, niggas.
No security, nothing, nigga.
Real life.
Stop doing this shit.
No, man.
He got love.
It's love.
It's love in the city, man.
Like, Detroit, one of them cities, man.
And, you know, like, I tell you, like,
I'd tell you, like, how I met this, nigger.
Like, we was doing this.
on a shoot for Charlemagne show at this mental health gym
in Detroit.
And you know, you know the music.
I knew the music pride, but you don't know what the story is
behind the man that make the music.
And when we met, man, like just, you know,
it's one thing to connect with a nigger
because you like their art, but when you see the type of man
that a nigger is and the type of shit
that make you speak the way that you speak,
like me and this nigger locked in immediately
because Slim had been through so much
and his ability to be able to express himself,
being a nigga that's from the streets of Detroit,
one of the realest cities in the world,
but still be able to express himself
in a manner to where people that's like us
from everywhere get to understand, my nigga,
you're going through some shit that you can make it through,
you can get through, you can come out on the other side
of and be successful and take care of your family, man.
So, man, that just made me fall in love with the nigga
even more, like, I walked up all the nigga,
he was like, what's up, Slim?
What's up, my baby?
You need, just because that, that respect,
back this day man so this niggas one of the most you know what we meet a lot of niggas in
this game we've met a lot of niggas lois you know we come in contact with a lot of niggas and
a lot of them disappoints you but this nigga right here one of the realest niggas you can never
meet man all the way so it's an honor to have you in the trap man all here bro appreciate talk
brother good thank god bro and if you didn't know could i could i do i mean all the way
from the six the east side of detroit you know i mean the
drink god niggins you already know nigger ice dog records how you are man my
motherfucking nigger the one and only ice where vizzo man it's in a trap with us man for real
yeah man i appreciate y'all niggas though for real bro like y'all platform mean a lot to us like
you know what i'm saying just in them trenches overall bro like y'all really are the culture y'all help
pushing that culture forward you know what i'm saying so this shit this shit this shit turned for me
bro this shit feel big for me bro real nigger shit i mean that too you know what i'm saying
he told us told me when we met he was like nigger in the in the feds nigga that whiling out
and you better not turn the channel off listen bro that's our bed my nigga in real life like for
real like man whiling out like love hip hop them two them two shows right there because you got
think brother women on their day y'all niggas funny as shit bro like we that's all we tuned in to
bro, nigga better not turn that TV, bro, anything.
You know, we had a whole TV room for Detroit and shit, bro.
I was like there with so many DC things, too, yeah, you know what I'm saying?
You know what I'm in the feds?
Shout out to all the niggins in jail watching Wildenow.
Man, Wiley and out really one of the biggest shows in the fans, bro.
I mean that, I swear to God, niggins.
You never know, bro, they come up, they tell us that all the time.
I'm not thinking the, I'm thinking like jail.
Nah, but fans.
No need a fence.
That mean, we sit, we're in the rotation.
rotation, nigga.
Bro, listen, my nigga, the feds, bro.
We sit and watching that shit.
We know what timing, come on.
Niggas is cooking food.
Look, my men just got out, bro.
He'll tell you, too, nigga.
We cooking full meals to watch Wiling Out, bro.
My kids.
These niggas is having Thanksgiving
to us and the fans.
I'm serious, bro.
I wish I could explain this shit anymore, bro.
We cooking full meals, man.
Nigger, make sure they got their workout in,
everything, bro.
Before Wiling Out, come on.
On me, bro.
These shit crazy, man.
Straight up.
That's my son, man.
Yeah, man, like, I've been a fan of your music
since before you went to the feds.
Like, just because I got a love for Detroit.
Like, I always, you know, we all do.
But for me, you know, being from D.C.,
like, it's certain cities that remind me
of the city I grew up in because, you know, it's still black.
You know what I'm saying?
Like, you go and it's the culture is so rich in Detroit.
So I fell in love with Detroit when I went,
and you was one of the first people that I discovered you,
covered you, you know, Peasy, you know what I mean?
Dope Boy Cash out, of course, you know what I'm saying?
Like, you know, babyface Ray, all y'all niggas, I've been fucking with y'all niggas
way, way before.
But I looser tell you, I always just say, man, these niggas is the next niggas.
Like, these is the niggas that's going to change the game, eh?
You know what I mean, like, I always knew.
And that's why when you made the statement that was controversial a couple of weeks ago that you changed the sound of rap, I was one of the motherfuckers like, yeah, nigger.
Like, the nigger changed the same.
like so what made you comfortable enough we don't jump right into that what made you
comfortable enough to come out and talk like that now you know it's so crazy like I think a
lot of niggas took that as me saying like like overall like I changed the sound of the rap
game and I'm just speaking from like you know from the from the level I'm on like I'm at I'm at my
ground I feel like I'm at the ground level I'm in the trenches we're in the streets you
know what I'm saying and like you know as far as all the artists coming from the streets
and what we listen to in them clubs,
strip clubs, what niggas ride to,
is that sound that
I feel like I brought back to the game.
You know, the rap ain't
nothing new. I don't know.
How you do it, how you said, ain't nothing new.
Everything that I've been done,
it's just niggas do it differently.
You know what I'm saying?
The way a nigger do it is new.
You know what I'm saying?
So just rapping on like the real gritty,
gutter beats, that sound like a nigga
made them bitches in the closet.
Like, niggas won't come in it,
and I came that, you know what I mean?
So I was just speaking for,
like the trenches and like niggas that's on the come up right now like that's the that's the sound
niggas is rapping on and i wasn't saying it most so like you know like man i i i change the shit
i don't want no nigger rapping on this nah i appreciate everybody rocking like that but
i'm a humble nigga bro you already know that i just stayed in the fact and i did you know i mean
not overall though but and that's the goal to intentionally to change it overall right you heard
when people are going to react like that i'm gonna just start saying shit like that too then
Fuck it.
Yeah, you know.
I changed the way niggas tell jokes.
That's a fact, though.
For real, though.
See, look though.
But it's a fact for, bro.
It's a fact, though.
I know what licking was sounding like before I came out.
Yeah.
That's a fact, but like.
Stop sneaking and doing my shit.
You know, like me.
We can collaborate and I'll show you how to do you.
Yeah.
I've been saying this story a long time.
Like, my favorite rap come out of Detroit and Flint.
You know what I mean?
Like, just with the Detroit sound.
and the Flint sound like with y'all and then what with with with the first two places
that we ever went to no real definitely changed rmc mic and the coochie man and all them
niggas like just that area that sound like what do you think that comes from like just that that
sound that y'all produced like because it's been around if you go all the way back the goddamn
you know blade i was rapping like always had a different sound but what do you think y'all was
able to j'all like come together and have like that sit down and say nah this is where we're
we all pushing on that it organically happened like you know what i'm saying like you say
blade the cheddar boys the whole street lord rock bottom lodge boys uh maiwest all the niggas
was already rapping on them type of beats they just was a little slower back when they was
doing it and in detrae all our music sped up like you go to a club every song you hear in the club
that bitch is super fast you know what I'm saying so we already was rocking with our
music like that so we just had to produce start making a beast fat we're rocking on that
shit, like that's sharp, organically.
You said the beats are faster?
Like, we speed the songs up in the clubs.
Like, literally, like, speed them bitches up.
Like, you would know the songs.
Like in the strip club?
In all the clubs, even on our radio stations,
we speed the music up, all our music sped up
on the fast side, you heard?
So, we just had to produce, start making that shit fast.
We ain't gotta speed it up no more, you know?
But, like, organically, we all just,
we pushing that sound.
And I know for a fact, like, when Rio was out,
yeah, everybody on that ground level
that I'm speaking of, everybody was rapping on them beats,
on that shit that Rio rap on.
Then I came with like the slower,
the slower vibe a little bit.
You know, the crunchier beats,
and niggas rapping on that.
Yeah, that's how I discovered the music,
like being in Detroit, being on the, like, nigga,
I'm at the, what's the casino, not the MGM, the other one?
Greek town.
The Greek town.
Yeah.
I'm at the light of the Greek town, nigger,
pull up beside me, bumping some shit.
The last thing I hear is a nigger said,
the nigga Rio said dead people in my pocket you know what he said
dead people in my pocket that my clothes smelled I was like
nigga who the fuck was that and I couldn't catch the nigga to answer
so it's like just that Detroit that I said thing I say about
Detroit is when you go to Detroit Detroit Detroit play Detroit music
like that's one of the strangest shit that ever happened to me in
Detroit motherfucking police pulled up on me in a box shabby
damn this was about two years ago I was like that thing still
I know he ain't paying a, he's not listening to shit.
Yeah, no, he'll pull up.
He's shooting first.
Damn.
Man, nigger pull up with them boxed,
you better not get there, you better not pull over.
So like, being from Detroit, like, what do you think that, you know, y'all, you know,
because you know Atlanta, we all know Atlanta as far as they cement in the game and in far as establishing culture,
but what do you feel like the Detroit is now in the, you know, the pantheon of establishing culture and being,
and appreciated and respected in the rap game.
I feel like we're pushing through, you know what I'm saying?
Like every city and every region had that wave.
Like, you know, Chicago got their wave, Houston caught their wave, Atlanta, got their way in New York.
I feel like right now, you know, it's just, it's a hard turn to just really catch that wave
and push that shit through the ceiling.
You know what I mean?
I think we like right on the break of really, really going big with that shit, you know what I'm saying?
Again, recognition globally, you heard, like.
But you know how do you get that?
wave, though, everybody got to
fuck with each other. If you look at any
city that had a run,
it comes from when everybody started
fucking with each other. That's a fact.
Every city. I'm talking
about it got to be all across the board, though.
The trap niggas got to fuck with the
niggas who do backpack wrap is like.
Once everybody get on
the same page, that's how they make a run.
When your
car is making a strange noise,
no matter what it is,
You can't just pretend it's not happening.
That's an interesting sound.
It's like your mental health.
If you're struggling and feeling overwhelmed,
it's important to do something about it.
It can be as simple as talking to someone
or just taking a deep, calming breath to ground yourself.
Because once you start to address the problem,
you can go so much further.
The Huntsman Mental Health Institute and the Ad Council
have resources available for you at loveyourmind today.org.
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It's always going to work like that.
I think the main problem is be, you know,
a lot of niggas just be thinking it can only be one, you know what I mean?
Everything you do, and that's a problem.
Just as black men, we got that real bad thinking, you know,
it's supposed to only be one.
That's just like it's saying it's only one dollar.
in the world.
It don't make sense.
You know what I mean?
It's room for everybody.
So yeah, you're right about that.
As soon as niggas can acknowledge that and move on that, that shit gonna go through the room.
How did y'all get past that in Detroit?
Because you know, the east side, west side shit is major in Detroit.
And that's something that's been going on internally in y'all city for, niggins before you was around and for everybody was around.
So how did job become, you know, at this point to get to a point where y'all were able to figure it out to move?
You know, necessarily everybody ain't got to be buddy, buddy and friends.
buddy, buddy, and friends,
but just we're able to all coexist
and the mutual respect.
How did y'all establish that?
I know for a fact, we learned from the people
that came before us.
You know, we're seeing what they didn't do
and where they went wrong again
and we learned from their mistakes as we should,
as we're supposed to have it.
You know what I mean?
We watched them not really come together like they,
well, they came together,
but I feel like niggas ain't stay together.
You heard it, like you say,
just be able to coexist with each other
and had that mutual respect and mutual understanding.
That's what I know for a fact we did.
We just learned from, we learned from the mistakes
of people that was before us, you know what I'm saying?
Like, even like in Detroit,
when it come like to the rap community,
our problems don't, we don't bring that shit to the world
because it ain't got nothing to do with the rest of the world,
you know what I'm saying?
Niggas got shit going on amongst each other
behind the scenes and we make sure that shit
can stay behind the scenes as much as possible.
It don't work in every case or all the time,
for the most part it do.
It's a lot of niggas that might not like each other
that rap in Detroit.
But it ain't got nothing to do with the rest of the world,
ain't they business, you know what I'm saying?
Keep it in house.
We keep that shit in house.
I gotta salute my hat to every artist in Detroit
for that, because we do it subconsciously.
You know what I'm saying?
That comes from that mutual understanding,
that mutual respect.
This shit ain't start on Instagram,
so it don't need to, you know what I mean?
You don't need to finish on Instagram.
We ain't gotta, not saying they need to go foreign,
jumping on crazy wild street shit.
What I mean is like,
even the conversation that need to be had,
that shit happened behind the scene.
It ain't got nothing to do with social media, you know what I'm saying?
So I think that's important, and I know that we do do that,
and we absolutely learn from people, mistakes that are for us.
Who are some of the artists that you know are coming up, you know, from your side,
Detroit, that the world need to know about?
Man, Chatterboy Malik, tough tone, that damn, ton-tone.
Man, them, uh, the whole cheddar boys, honestly.
That whole little wave right there, them boys got a real, and stretch money.
The boys had a real, man, stretch of a motherfucking legend, man.
That nigga really can rap.
You know, it was at one point with Holmes
was the biggest artist in Detroit.
You know what I'm saying?
So, like, yeah.
Another nigga I fuck with it's Lou Graham.
Man, that's big goat, man.
That's my brother, me.
That's big goat, man.
You heard?
Yes, sir.
Niggas ain't ready.
That nigga, I'll fuck with that nigga, man.
Big shifter.
You dig.
That's my brother.
I wouldn't name the artist that I like,
but they're very controversial,
so I'll just keep it neutral
and salute everybody on.
Yeah. Like a lot of people don't know your backstory though, man. You was, you know, you was big in the streets of Detroit before you ever made a record. I'm talking about owning car washes and businesses and all of that. So, like, how did you utilize that business mindset that you had doing it with, you know, the wrong way as people would say? How did you transition that into what you do now?
I used everything that I did then. I used the shit with the music shit. You know what I'm saying? Like, I ain't taking no for an answer. I ain't letting my foot.
up off the gas and I just I keep going you know what I'm saying the same way I be out in
the streets doing the wrong shit is the same approach I take doing the right shit you know with
the same enthusiasm you know I mean they can't go in the house till late at night doing some dump
shit so I ain't going to you know I'm stay out and grinding shit out doing the right shit you
know what I'm saying so it's just most so that focus you know I keep that same focus I ain't
let that I ain't let that focus that I and I gun at that shit bro like I already I speak everything
about my life into existence.
I know what I want to be.
I know who I am gonna be.
I know who I am.
You know what I mean?
I manifest that shit.
And I firmly and strongly believe
in my path and my story.
You know, and I got the understanding
knowing that I can create, I can create my story.
I can create my own path.
I can be who the fuck I want to be.
It don't matter that nigga
I ain't graduate high school.
I ain't go to college.
I ain't had no jobs.
I ain't do none of that shit.
They don't mean nothing.
It's not stopping.
You know what I'm saying?
I had that same mentality.
When I was in the streets and I got that same mentality, none.
You know what I mean?
I bought a restaurant, car wash, and dispensary when I was a kid.
Right.
Like a little-ass kid, bro, and I bought all that shit.
You heard, so I'm on the same thing with the music shit, you know,
pushing my own record label, all that.
I'm going to do what I got to do for myself, turn myself up,
then turn my niggas up.
That's how I got to go.
God damn right.
Now, I want to speak to just the strength that you,
that you possessed because you had all of that,
but then you lost it.
So how do you keep yourself in that mentality
when you lose all of that and have to start from bottom again?
Like, how do you get to the point where you don't quit
and say, fuck it, and go back to what you know?
And this, you know, I mean,
all of the things that go into having to push past,
you know, what people look at is fail you.
How did you do that?
Man, you want to know it's so crazy.
Everything I lost, I wanted to lose.
I ain't want that shit, I ain't want it that way.
Because I do know one thing, like, with this street shit,
it ain't never no winners.
A nigga ain't gonna never win,
and it ain't no end game with that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
That shit goes either two ways,
and we all know which way that go,
and I ain't want that shit.
True story.
I was driving home from my car wise one day,
and it was just a wild day, bro.
Like, a lot of weird-ass energy,
just a bunch of stupid shit just kept happening.
You know what I mean?
I pulled over on the side of the road with Lahi, bro.
It's true story.
And I just talking to guy, like, you know,
I know I prayed for this and I know I asked for this and when I'm when I say this I meant money
You know I mean I'm like I know I prayed for it I asked for and I wanted it
But this not the way I wanted I wanted this way I'm not happy
It don't feel right I got indicted a few weeks later and lost everything I had and I was I was extremely happy
And I was happy because I knew I had a chance to start from zero and I knew God answered my prayer
Because I wouldn't I lost shit way too fast it was like a domino effect I lost hundreds of thousands of
of dollars, I lost businesses,
car, full on
running businesses that was
doing well at the time, cars,
all type of shit. I knew God
answered my prayer and it made me happy
because I knew that was just the first part of my prayer
because I asked for it to have it the right way
and when I lost all that shit, that was the
happiest day in my life in real life
you know what I'm saying? So I knew it was time
to get it the right way and do that
shit the way, do it the way I want to do it
do it in a way that's going to make me happy,
do it in a way that's going to make me
appreciate it because I ain't appreciate that money.
I didn't care for it.
It was too much shit that came with it.
You know what I mean?
And it wasn't even about the pressure.
It was just me being a nigga that know how to think,
that I know like, man, I sink this shit a million times.
I know where I'm headed.
I know where I'm about, I know where I'm hitting.
What was your first step to doing it right?
Clean slate.
So you say you're starting over from scratch.
What was your first step?
First step.
First I went to the fed, I had to go to jail.
When I got-
I'm saying, when you had,
You're going through the process.
I left that once I lost that shit, it was over.
That was my first step, was reneging from going back.
That's the first step is knowing when to quit.
That's a step in itself.
To be honest with you, that's the strongest part.
That's where the strength come in.
Knowing when to quit, that shit is hard.
That was my first step.
I knew it was time.
It was done.
It was over with.
You heard, when I lost all that shit, it was over.
Let me fight this case.
Do what I got to do.
I got a daughter.
I got a son on the way.
Fuck this shit.
I'm going to go sit down and do my time.
My wife and my kids was living in the middle of the hood with her grandparents.
I ain't never told nobody's story.
Only people notice is my immediate family in my circle.
I'm ice where Vezzo at the time, man.
I'm the same nigger just had restaurants, car washes,
five, six cars on rims, cribs, all this shit.
I'm me at this point popping like a well-known nigga.
And I was fucked up, bro, with a name, got songs, all this shit.
You know, wife and kids in the middle of the hood, bro.
You know what I mean?
Like, nigger had to sit down, got back out, bro, and I still renewed it.
Got a deal, that shit ain't do nothing for me as far as financially.
It did a lot for me because I gained a lot of knowledge, and I had got a record deal by some good people.
You know what I mean?
But shit, nigger just stuck to that shit.
Bro, when I tell you, I believe in myself, I really believe in myself.
I didn't even know the plan.
I just knew where I was going to be, and I knew where I wanted to go.
And that shit came to fruition, you know what I'm saying?
I got everything I ever lost times 10
and I'm gonna hold on to this shit
because now I know how to have it
you know what I mean I know how to have something
I know I know how to be a nigga with money bro
I know how to I know how to handle this shit
I know how to stay humble
I know how to respect other people
I know how not to crash out
how not to think too much of myself
and jump on that high horse you know what I'm saying
not let that money make me tweak out
I know how to have all this shit
you know I mean so
go back to initial question my first
My first step was to renege and not go back.
I'm telling you, man, this nigga here, like, when I talked to him,
when we had the conversation, it was just like, you know,
it's very rare we get to look in the mirror with perspective, Los.
Like, especially us, the way we think about, you know,
me and this nigga, like, I had told me and this nigga for years.
When we ain't had nothing, nigga, would just ride around
and just talk about this shit, you know what I mean?
Ways and different type of methods we could do
or what we could do or what we need to not do
or what we need to change before any
of this shit. So when you hear somebody
talk about it from a perspective of your
like your perspective, it was just, it was
refreshing to me because a lot
of niggas that come from the streets don't
allow themselves to get to that point
because of the fear of what other
people are going to say about this. And that's why I
ask what's the first step. You get what I'm saying?
Because it's like, nigga, it don't matter if he said
or he said, niggins the niggas who are going
hear you say it's going to spark
something you get what I'm saying because there's people who's standing right there like
shit I'm ready to do the shit now what I need to do you dig what I'm saying but you got to
see when a nigga asked that question that go back to what I said that first step is
knowing when to reneed because you got a nigga that I ask that to say that like all right
I'm ready to go right now what I need to do and a nigga put something in front of them
for a certain amount of money a nigga do it and not care what it is they're doing you got to know
how to reneed. You got to know what I'm saying?
Fuck that shit. Let me figure it out. Let me find another way.
That shit is hard, bro. That shit is hard.
The hard part. Man, you know how hard it is?
How your wife and kids living in the middle of the hood, bro?
Why are you in prison? And you get out of prison, got to figure this shit.
You know how hard it is not to go pick up a bag or go get some real money.
When you know you can, when you know how good you is at this shit, how good, how good you are.
Just as equally talented as you is with moving. Everything else.
This shit, that shit is hard, bro.
That's why I didn't go home when I started doing comedy,
because I refuse, because it's like,
it's different when it's the people that care about you.
When it's strangers, you don't give a fuck,
but when it's your mama like,
nigga, you ain't eat again today.
Like, and people, when people,
people gonna treat you like they used to seeing you.
So when they see you in a sense of you,
the nigger with all the cars and all of this,
and then you come and you're doing something completely different,
niggas like, damn.
And when it's somebody that you know not being malicious,
it make you say, man, why am I struggling when I am,
ain't got to be like that shit difficult to do man so salute to you for making that transition because
now you you you know I watched the documentary you did where you went back to a restaurant that you
frequent at on the east side and just talked about the one of the ladies that that showed you love
like speak about that like the people that did see the greatness in you pride like did you have
abundance of those people or was it just a couple of people that just spoke so much into you
that you didn't need a whole bunch of it and you know I'm gonna be honest
It was a lot of people.
You know, usually like when niggas get asked that question,
especially like rappers, like we got it bad
with just saying, man, nigga ain't did nothing for me, bro.
Wasn't nobody.
But you said I wasn't gonna be shit.
Yeah, I did this shit on my own.
For me, it wasn't like that.
I had a lot of support.
I had a lot of people that believed in me,
you know, since I was a shorty, bro.
Even my homeboy, my best friend, Ghosts,
like when we was kids, bro, he knew that,
he believed, he knew that this shit would happen for me.
He knew it.
My big brother, Jay,
did it, he didn't hear, he knew it.
You know what I'm saying, my mama, my brother Rick,
my nigga Webbo, like, my nigga Ludger,
like I had real support.
We used to go half on my mixtapes type shit,
like for real, bro, like, them niggas that went broke
to help me out, especially Webbo.
Like that man, I spent all his money on my music,
and he rap too.
Like, he helped me get in the studio before he did this shit
for itself, I had a lot of support.
And that's another reason why I was like,
this shit gotta work,
because too many people believe in me.
You know what I mean?
At times I felt like,
I felt like I ain't deserved that type of belief
because I knew, you know,
where I would, the path I was head down,
it's just like I don't deserve for y'all to believe in.
You know what I mean?
I just, I felt like I ain't deserved it.
But now I understand.
My manager, Chanel, I met her in 2012.
First, she's amazing.
First thing.
She's amazing.
She's amazing, man.
It's a blessing.
You deserve everything.
That's that survivor's remorse and shit,
when you feel like you don't deserve that shit.
I ain't gonna lie, bro.
I feel like I ain't deserve that shit.
Even my old lady, bro, me and my wife
been together since we got that.
It was 12 and 13 years old, bro.
That's some real hood niggins shit to say.
Working at McDonald's,
and then my wife were together,
who are the middle.
You heard, we go in studio all that.
Driving the gas, out of the car and shit,
no money to put in that bitch, man.
Like, no, I had a good support system, bro.
12 and 13.
We was kids.
We was kids.
That's crazy.
Man, we still like that.
How you speak to that?
How you keep that together with all of this shit
that come with the rap and all of that?
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, how do you keep that together?
Because that's important.
That real life shit.
You know, that's important for people to know.
But the process, though, is what I think a lot of people
don't get an insight into, like how you stay together
with all of the success and all of the stigma
that comes with being a nigga that got it.
How do you stay locked in throughout that process?
How do you keep somebody down with you
when you gotta go to jail
and they gotta live in the middle of the hood
when she knows she can go fuck with the next nigger that got it.
You know what I mean?
How do you keep that in pocket?
And it go back to that mutual understanding.
Like, we respect each other.
We understand each other.
This shit deeper than just, like, some love shit.
Like, that's my partner.
You know what I'm saying?
We're 50-50 on this shit.
Like, when I hurt, she hurt, when she hurt, I hurt,
it's not even about no love and no marriage and no relationship at that point.
Like, we're far beyond that.
You know what I'm saying?
We life partners.
Like, that's really my dog.
like we we homies you know what i'm saying we don't been through so much shit bro and ain't none of
that shit break us it's like at this point we just locked in and the crazy thing even when the
nigga had got fucked up and lost all that shit we was the happiest then we happy happy now but
i'm saying like yeah yeah yeah before like you know when the nigger had all that paper and
shit like that when i lost that cheese we was more happier than because even she she felt what i
I felt. She knew what was coming. She knew this shit. She knew what she synceded.
You're about to turn up. When you get home, you're gonna get rich. You're gonna be rich.
You're gonna be a millionaire. She used to tell me that when I'd be frustrated and I had to do six months in a hole.
I did three months, got out for a week, went back for another three months. She came and seen me have vision.
I'm mad as fuck. They're gonna do my rap book away. I gotta write my raps on the fucking milk cart.
I'm mad venting to her. She's like, what is you tripping for?
about to be a millionaire when you get out you really about to be rich i'm talking about with no plan
she ain't got no plan i ain't got no plan she just knew it you heard so we locked in like that's my
that's my dog at this point that shit like you know what i mean that's that's beautiful yeah man
like so so you know QC why them yeah i fuck with p p p solid bro like and coach k like they whole
system they whole team me and p been rotating for like two years before i even signed with
And shit, we've just been building, getting to know each other.
And like, we got a lot in common.
His mentality, his come up, you know, the way he sees shit.
And, you know, as far as like with QC, they don't,
they let the artists be artists, they let the artists work.
Like, you know, you go to a lot of labels
and they yell that creative control shit.
As soon as you sign them dotted lines,
you can't drop no music and none of that.
Like, it ain't even no discussion with QC.
All right, listen, this coming out Friday,
all right, cool, it's running.
You know what I mean?
Ain't no business, ain't no business better
in that kind of business, when it go back to the initial thing,
that mutual understanding.
That shit is important.
Anything you do, any relationship, any relationship, any friendship,
any friendship, it got to be an understanding.
You got to have an understanding.
I don't want no love.
I want some understanding.
You know, understand each other.
It's a quote right there.
For real.
All the way.
Now, like, being from Detroit and then, you know,
signing to an Atlanta label, you know what I mean?
You get a lot of people who say, man,
what shit?
why not keep it all the way in pocket at the crib and why not just, you know, do a day
and then y'all create your own conglomerate, speak to why you got to have an understanding
that it's cool to venture out, you know what I'm saying?
Bigger pitch.
Yeah.
The bigger picture, bro.
When you got a plan, some shit just be the first step.
This is just the first step.
Like I say, you know, I'm putting myself on the line.
I'm risking my own music.
I'm risking my own contractual freedom.
You know what I mean?
to make money and be in a position,
so I can take that bag back to Detroit.
Not can, I am, I'm doing that now,
bringing that bag back to Detroit,
and I'm investing in other,
I got an artist with me right now,
SBR Peasy, my nigga Vano here, Millie,
like, we're really bringing that bag back home,
back to Ice the Records, back to Detroit, Michigan.
You know what I'm saying?
So it's just like, you know,
it's just a process, can't,
you can't do nothing by yourself.
If you got it in your mind
that you're about to make some shit work,
and it's just you, you watch your mind.
He lost it, and I worked like that, you know what I'm saying?
So it's just one of them situations where it's like, all right, fuck it.
Let me strap my nuts on.
Let me go lock myself in some type of agreement, run it up, and I'm going to bring it back home.
That's what I'm doing.
All the way, land.
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Speaking of it, I want to talk to the music, the actual music, like, you know, Detroit got a, you know, a unique sound as far as the music side.
But the wordplay, like somebody like you, payroll, you know, all of the niggas that speak that, that hustler talk, like that motivational shit.
That game.
That good game, that there's really teaching the nigger how to do it.
And not just glorifying what come with the good part,
but also explaining to you,
nigga, you're going to jail.
You know what I'm saying?
All of that, like, did you, is that a Detroit thing,
or is that just a thing that just happens
to, you know, come from you personally?
Oh, mic check.
What was the question?
Checking the motherfucker?
I bet.
Yeah, I asked about just the message in the music.
You know, I was talking about niggas like payroll
and yourself and P, all ya, you know what I'm saying?
saying all the whole Detroit, baby face,
all y'all speak a certain level of music
that, a certain level of game in the music
that I think is kind of non-existent now.
Across the board, everybody just pottying
and popping pills and, you know, sipping lean
and all that shit cool,
but y'all got a deeper message in the music
to really teach a nigga how to go get something for itself.
I said, is that a Detroit thing
or is that just something that you personally?
Just have been you.
I just think that's more of a nigger being responsible.
Like, I know,
For a fact, like, as far as everybody you name,
we all understand our role we play.
You know what I mean?
With just, like, the influence on the young niggas
and, you know, how rap can influence other people sometimes.
I think we just, we all understand that.
So it's important that niggas throw that message out there
and let a nigger know, like, you know,
ain't no end resorts of this shit.
This shit, it might be fun on one track.
The next track is like, yeah, this was going to happen.
You know, playing them games.
is moving crazy like that.
Like we just all understand that and we've been through that shit.
Niggas really from that shit.
We sink that shit and I came up off of that type of music.
Like what niggas like Big Hurd, like Big Hurd was a reality rapper.
Dude, he's from Detroit too, he's a legend, he fired.
You know what I'm saying?
Homes made club music, made street music.
But most and foremost, he was a reality rapper.
Like he spoke on the street shit, but he ain't only glorify that shit.
He spoke on what came from that shit.
And he influenced my shit.
influence my music, you know, as a young nigga, you know what I'm saying?
So I just thought it was important that sometimes I do the same.
I got to ask you this, though.
You're talking about, like, you know, you're talking about Detroit and Hood shit.
But now this shit is just global.
And I know you hear this shit from other countries where they got their kind of version of like shit that's almost like some shit that remind you of some shit.
But it's like you can tell the shit that they heard that, you know, made them make.
this shit. It's kind of like the, you know, they'll translate that shit. They'll do your shit
in their language, basically. It's like a whole little genre of music and shit. I know you see
like different subcultures of music popping up around the world. Just, not for so. But you know
what, though, bro, I ain't gonna lie knickers need that shit. Like, I said like, niggas is helping
push that sound. Niggas helping push that agenda. That's shit important. You know what
what I'm saying? The motor mirror, you know, it can be just us, but if it's us,
and niggas from outside of this motherfucker,
that shit gonna go even faster.
Yeah, I mean.
I do be hearing some generic shit, though.
I'm not gonna catch that.
I do, bro, I'd be like, man, what the fuck is this?
Like, especially like the beats,
but sometimes some of them niggas be going crazy,
that shit be hard as fuck.
Man, Detroit culture, man, like the, the culture is something.
I'm glad y'all getting recognition.
That's a nice city, man.
Yeah, I'm glad y'all getting recognition for now.
But like, you know, just, I just give
an example, Cartier frames, like the buffs, the stones and the glasses and all that shit.
That come from out of Detroit, Michigan, hands down.
So, like, now that you see that is y'all getting the credit, do it feel good, or did you, you know, do it?
Is it like, I knew it was coming.
It was just a matter of time.
Hell yeah, that shit, oh, well, that shit feels good.
Like, I ain't see buffs blowing up like that.
I'm not going to lie, like, because for a long time, yeah.
Yeah, because for a long time, yeah.
No, niggas was robbing the shit out of each other motherfuckers in the city.
It was so vile that they were like,
niggas want these?
Straight up.
Man, the niggas really used to die for them,
I ain't gonna crap,
well, my first case was an unarmed robbery
for snatching the nigger bus, bro.
When I was a kid, bro, 16 years old, bro.
That shit was dead serious down that motherfucker, brother.
But, like, yeah, nah,
niggas ain't used to understand that shit
like why we were so infatuated with them bitches.
So I ain't see it blowing up like that.
That shit hard, though.
I mean, and the jewelry, like, you know,
the jewelry out of Detroit, like, you know, rest and peace to hutch.
Like, you know, I'm saying.
Like, that's, you put me, you know, onto that, like, not necessarily put me on to it,
but plug me in with him to win.
When I went in and said icewear, man, it was like, oh, you fuck with icewear.
Come on around the corner, man.
Let me show you something.
You must be all right.
But, like, like, the creativity and the pieces, like, where that come from, you know what I'm
saying?
Because it's one thing that had the money to get some shit, but you didn't see some
some niggas that got some diamonds that you'd be like, man, you could have left.
that shit at the jeweler.
No, I don't think everybody's shit's supposed to be good.
Man, that's shit important in Detroit, boy.
Nick got to have the right diamonds.
Call it the kit.
Yeah, yeah, your kit got to be suffering.
Yeah, it's just an interpretation.
Yeah, they got to have that shit on, though,
like, they can't have them motherfucking s-eyes and lab diamonds,
all that shit got to be hit, boy.
That's a Detroit, nigger, for that eyeball your shit.
Like, oh, yeah.
You don't get that shit, you got to get that shit,
you got to put it on.
You got to pick you in the brains on, that kid.
came out to land.
You're like, fuck.
I'm never coming back in here.
That man got the joy.
Now me, bro.
But I mean, like, you take that shit serious.
Like, it's a real thing.
Not in this, and it's bigger than, I could tell it was bigger than the money.
I shared this story when we were shooting, one of your pieces had broke.
And you had the jeweler that made the shit come up there.
That nigga remember everything.
Yeah, that nigga came up.
He was like, and I seen the way he was talking to him.
It wasn't like no fuss.
It was like, listen, man.
This, and he talking like he made the motherfucker.
I made the motherfucker, I was like,
but I might need to get ice with him, make my shit, man.
I didn't even know to ask these type of question.
So how do you get that in depth with it?
Is that something that just come from overtime
and buying jewelry or did you just, you know,
do you say, fuck that I'm spending my money on this.
Yeah, yeah, that shit comes being cheap.
Nick, I'm spending my money.
This shit got to be right, you know.
I need to know the ends and outs,
all this shit, no.
I'm about a year for 50 racks.
Hear that fucking price tag.
You want to know everything there, too.
Tell me some more shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Put a little book.
Yeah, and read the whole little book.
Yeah, what is the certification, digger, the GIA?
I need all that.
Yeah, F, F, I F, all that, all that.
All that, exactly.
Man, you know what I mean?
I got some shit I only wear at home.
You only wear that good shit at home?
Yeah, I mean, I, you know, I pull it out when I work.
Man, you know what's so crazy, bro.
I ain't gonna laugh.
I wouldn't even be buying this shit for real.
This shit is just, like, I play a watch,
a little chain, you know what I'm saying?
I ain't all at, five, six chain, man.
Fuck that shit.
if I ain't rap like I just don't care I come one roly you know what I'm saying
pressure yeah man this shit is frivolous brother like I used to love this nigga man I used to love
this shit I was I used to be infatuated by this shit but not just like man what the fuck
bro nigga I don't three four hundred thousand dollars I don't spend 400 thousand on jury bro
you know how fucking stupid that sound to a
to a motherfucker that's a billionaire with no jury.
You know what I mean?
Like 400, man, this shit is just frivolous.
I wouldn't wear that shit if I had to, but it's all gangster.
You know what I'm saying?
It's all up.
I feel you.
For me, it's just like, you know, we come from a place where we don't get to get shiny shit a lot.
You know what I mean?
So the more shiny shit you can get with, you know, it's value to us
because, you know, them just shit, at the end of the day,
they're shit ours anyway.
Them diamonds and shit come from where the fuck we come from.
so we should be able to Shaka Zulu and them niggas ain't say it was real.
The shit, that shit definitely a trophy.
They were just able to go get that shit out the backyard, nigger.
That was the only difference.
Now, that shit definitely a trophy, but I just play like,
I wouldn't have as much jury as I got, though.
You know what I'm saying?
I'll keep it cool.
Like, who's somebody who shit that you just say in me?
Like, I'm dad.
Man, Gucci.
That nigga Wap got some of the best ice in the rap game.
For real?
Man, Wap got the best, some of the best jury.
That nigga shit returned.
This shit.
crazy I ain't gonna lie I'm sure he stopped bark where his heart used to be that
nigger been doing it for I'm talking about this shit he got nod yeah no he did
have that bark that niggins was the blood niggins that thing bad niggins used to
had a colorful diamonds for real boy you look back at the history of jewelry boy
niggins used to be 96 inches man the bitch changed me right here
nigga chain all the way down here camera all of them niggas the niggins she used to be
white toy tony on
Nick, neck to ankle.
Man, we used to be tweaking with the clothes and shit back then, bro.
That shit kind of coming back in, no bed.
I know my fucking tar, it did the baggy shit, but bro, we used to wear,
niggas used to wear tart teeth, though.
Man, you seen that shit, the shorthy.
Nah, nigga, I'm sorry.
Everybody looked like they was melting.
Man, nigginsiazza put them.
And clear force ones, man, the fuck as we think.
Oh, yeah, but the niggins that used to wear the clear force me with no socks and be foggy.
on their side, you niggas is disrespectful.
You never seen the nigga with the goddamn.
I never had no clear ones.
I just had to draw the line somewhere.
Oh, no, I ain't never had.
I'm just not gonna participate in.
I'm just saying just the coach overall.
Yeah, I never had the clear forces,
but I definitely had some Js with SpongeBob
on the side of there.
I definitely had the bullshit Jays.
Most bullshit Jays I ever had was the ones
with Barack Obama on.
Damn.
You had some Obama bids?
I was too excited.
What number was they, nigg?
Some three.
44.
In the 44?
That they had the 44s off.
For real.
I had to have them.
They just hit there.
That shit, Balenciaga putting out big as fuck, me.
You see, that shit, niggas be drowning in that shit.
That's what Balenciaga mean.
What?
French for big as fuck.
I'm gonna take your word.
No, you for real?
I just made that up.
You know, you're gonna fuck me up.
I'm like, man, what is tweaking?
So, man, I gotta ask you.
or all your projects, which one you think
is the most meaningful to your career?
If you had to pick one.
Clarity 2.
That's the, yeah.
That's the biggest.
That's the biggest one I don't...
There ain't nothing who'll ever mean more than clarity 2 for me.
Why clarity 2?
That's the one that turned me up.
That's one I blew up on, you know what I mean?
Bro, I dropped that bitch, right?
Well, not the whole tape, but I put, like,
most of the songs out, I had to do a bid back then.
Put that shit out, turk myself in.
I'm in jail, a regular nigga.
I'm in a bull, I'm in a bull,
Normal than the bitch, I go to my rock, I'm in that bitch normal.
Man, gradually over months, niggas just got popular in prison.
Like, everybody, every nigger in the prison just knew me.
And my girl at the time just let me know, like,
bro, your shit turned out here, like, you're a big artist.
And it was because of clarity, too, was the songs on that shit.
When I got out, I dropped the whole tape.
Man, shit just been up since then for me.
As far as, like, in Detroit, like, that shit really put me up, like, all the way up.
Yeah, that's hard.
Yeah.
Hard.
That's just stupid, too.
That's one of my favorite clarity, too, now.
You know, what's in the stash?
That's, damn, he took that thought out my brain.
As far as music.
Yeah, and shit, whatever.
Music, media.
Shit, I got a, I got a movie about to drop.
November 23rd.
We're going to do it at the Imagine Theater.
Where you're local.
My executive,
I executive produced that motherfucker.
Our co-writs.
I wrote the whole movie, but my man's Kamar Smith did the script for me.
You know what I'm saying?
And I'm acting in that motherfucker.
It's dropping November 23rd, Imagine Theater's WorldO, Michigan.
Then we're going to stream it in December.
What's it called?
Tag.
It's like a Detroit up-to-date New Jersey Drive, just with our little twist on it.
You know what I'm saying?
With real cartel.
Yeah, I'm just boy shit.
It's called tag because, you know, niggas call that when you retag a car and resell it.
So the movie fired that bitch dope.
Who the fuck just said, eh, back there?
Like you riding around and one of the hell cats.
And it's tracking you face.
Yeah, nigga, hey.
I got a gangster girls dropping December 8th, me and DJ Drama.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Gangster gridsils.
Man, is that, was that something that you wanted to do
or something that they wanted you to do?
That was on my bucket list.
Yeah, at this point, that's some historic shit to do.
It's like putting your stamp in the game.
Yeah, to happen.
That DJ drama that, that gang
Gangster Grills, you know what I mean?
Like, do you feel like, do you feel more pressure to come different on this one than you do on any of your own projects because of the stigmas that, I mean, because of what's attached to the gangster grill?
I did at first, but then I'm like, you know what if I think like that, then I'm going to drop the ball.
Like, fuck this shit.
I'm just going to keep making music that I like to listen to.
When I go to studio, bro, I make shit that I know I'm going to listen to in my car.
You know what I mean?
I'd be able to have more fun with that shit.
Do me one favor.
Just keep talking shit in your rap.
Oh yeah.
He'll tell you, all the shit I listen to, if a motherfucker don't say some little, like talk
a little shit, I ain't got really fucking with.
I gotta talk that shit in that, bitch.
I got some shit on there with Gizi.
Yeah.
Got a future on that motherfucker.
Kodak Black.
Yeah, I could be going crazy.
Yeah.
Bitch, man.
Baby money.
No, baby money.
Truth, man.
You know, man.
The drink, man, got so many artists that, you know, if you tap into what they got going on.
And I think, you know, you-
Nick, I went to a club that said something about the house in Detroit.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
You got to tap into that culture of the city to really see what the music do.
Like, this shit is just, it's bigger than just some niggas on the microphone.
Like, when you go out there, you see how that shit affect.
Like, these niggas is riding around listening to this shit.
They playing it on the radio.
Like, you know, that's one of the only places that I didn't went to and I listened to the radio
and heard shit that I didn't hear anywhere but Detroit.
You know what I mean?
Like, that's, they fuck with their own shit.
They always had.
For sure. Our music, like, that's all niggas listen to is Detroit music in Detroit.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
We are our biggest fans.
I think that shit dope, too.
I fuck with that, you know what I mean?
And give us some must-dews in Detroit.
If somebody ain't never been to Detroit, like, you know, somewhere to go eat, you know what I mean?
Somewhere to go sight-see in the city because, you know, you get a, in Detroit get a bad rapper,
or it's fucked up and all that, but it's a beautiful place.
Check this out.
Detroit. On the full side, nigga gotta go to sloppy crabs. That bitch turned. Gotta fuck a piece of cat. That bitch, that.
Nick, gotta hit the Zorba, though, to Coney Island. See, but that's the thing. That shit B.A.
You know, y'all niggas argue about that shit like niggas in Chicago with hurls and
niggas in D.C. with mumbosaws. You gotta go to the right one. So which one is the one to go to?
Zoriburg. Zorba's Coney Island on Six Mile of Gunston. That's in my hood. That's the
That's one of the best conies in that motherfucker.
Blueface voucher.
Yeah, exorbas.
On the gear side, though, you got a, you already know, Somerset.
Yeah.
That's the bag, you know what I'm saying?
Then we got nojo kicks.
We got, um, we got the bistro.
That bitch, they got some shit up in there.
I got to give a shout out to my favorites, but sweet water way.
Oh, sweet water, I ain't going to lie.
Sweet water, nigger.
Sweet water, nigger.
Oh, man.
Then on the club side, you got to fuck with truth.
Annex, Asa Spade, Society.
Where you get your furrows from?
I don't need, I ain't gonna lie, I don't wear the furs for real.
When you get them furrows from in Detroit?
Um, what's the name of that spot, man?
God damn.
I didn't forgot the name.
And then put you on this spot.
Dietrich, Dietrich.
Dietrich.
Yeah, that's what I fuck with out there.
That's on the boulevard.
That's on the boulevard.
I get all my bus from Hutch.
I got a few pair from Fairlane.
I ain't gonna lie, from M&F.
I'ma keep it real.
I didn't got a couple pair from M&F, you know what I mean?
But, you know, I just fuck with the culture of the city, man.
I'm actually there January 13th at the MGM, man.
I'm so excited about that show just because...
I'm pulling up, man.
I told you.
Flint and Detroit did one of the first two cities I ever traveled to.
For real?
Hell yeah.
I mean, just when you start as a comedian?
No, as a kid.
In life.
For real?
For real.
Why?
What took you?
Family then.
Oh, for real?
Yeah, man.
I remember we drove all the way from Mississippi to Flint.
That's about, what, 12, 13 hours?
About 14 hours.
Probably 15.
That's a lot of motherfucker.
And then, like, all my family from Detroit,
like, they would just drive down
and, like, spend the whole summer down south.
In Mississippi?
Yeah.
I'm family all over, Michigan, man.
That shit crazy.
Chicago.
Shout out to everybody in the midwest.
It's cold as much as a bitch in the midwest right now.
It's cold as a bitch, but, nigga to midwest, man.
Me and West niggins are some of the flies niggas,
some of the realest niggas that you'll ever meet,
And Detroit got some of the finest black women in the fucking world.
Oh, my God.
The fettest asses.
They got real money.
They got money, too.
My shit is not normal.
They got money.
And my motherfucking, my, my, lay, I fly to Dallas to get a bitch from Detroit to bring my head.
They're not wrong.
They got, hey, them answers sit different.
I don't know if it's because it'd be cold all the time.
And them ants would be like frozen.
That one fucking Coney Island.
Man.
That's that Coney Island.
That's what it is.
My fucking chili dogs.
So, you know, the next project is December 8th.
And that's the gangster grills.
Gangster grills called Paint the City.
Paint the City.
Yes, sir.
We all one on that one.
It's up.
And now it is.
Bro, who haven't you worked with that you want to work with?
Because you've been going, you got some crazy-ass features, too.
Yeah.
Like I'm saying, like, shit that you feature, though.
You got a long list of motherfuckers.
Who you want to work with?
Man, I want to fuck with Trisiezy.
I can't fuck with Drake.
That's shit to go.
On some player shit.
Both of y'all from the six.
That's why.
That's why we both front of six.
I got to put them on one of them raggedy-ass beats too.
So he could talk crazy.
He'll fuck it up.
He can fuck that bitch up.
That's what you call them, them raggedy ass beats.
Yeah, the raggedy motherfuckers.
You just put the name on.
Yeah, that's it.
Raggedy ass beats.
They sounding like that, you heard.
That bitch is hard, nigger.
I'm talking about nigger.
You put them goddamn buffs on this light, you put them.
That shit like, motherfucking Captain Planet got called.
Nigger, you put him on, nigga.
Oh, you fucking with any other Detroit Hood movies?
Hell yeah, I fuck with Price of Love.
That bitch crazy.
Y'all got to watch that.
How buffed up my shit.
Nah, 2-Eleven, though.
You ever seen 2-Eleven?
No, I mean 2-11.
Hey, what's the nigger name with all the movies?
Oh, from the wrong.
Murder, you're talking about murder.
Murder pain.
Shut up to murder pain.
That's me and murder.
That's me and murder.
That's murder, that's murder and Muley Fitt.
That's 2-11 is a day movie,
but me and murder starring in that bitch.
What side of the Detroit is like,
Hey, real nigga shit, bro, 2-11 is like
minutes to society in Detroit, like in Detroit side.
Oh, I'm mad to watch that.
In real life, bro, that bitch, one of them.
What side of town murder pain from?
Murder pain, he's from the west side.
Where is he from southwest?
Yeah, he's from southwest.
It's a difference, that's why I said,
that matter, he's from southwest.
What's it different?
I mean, the west side is the west side,
Southwest and Southwest, they like, they own city down there, you know what I mean?
That's what meeting them boys is from, from Southwest.
Southwest, okay.
Yeah, so those, so them boys that's got McGraw half, that shit shot over there, you know what I mean,
and they hood, that's they hood.
Okay.
You're gonna fuck with any of those?
You got the bag now, you put two or three of them a year, man.
It's coming.
Like, a tag, the movie dropping on the 23rd.
Yeah.
We got that rocking.
We got Price of Love Out.
And I'm coming whole series, January, this shit on the flow.
It's on the flow.
Yeah, yeah, man, what up, though?
Detroit shit, so man, it's an honor, man.
Oh, look, you know it wouldn't be right.
Newface, you got it or something?
Oh, yeah, you know who Newface is?
No.
Hey, this is the official hip hopper story.
He's a story.
He is a preserver of the culture.
He got all the hip hop artifacts.
Yeah.
So ain't gonna tell her what he might hit you with.
And he's from Detroit.
He's from the city?
Yeah, the real, the real fuck-up bar.
Oh, he's a real nigga.
Yeah, he got that shit.
I ain't got that Detroit or whatever, though.
Over there, by all of them proud friends and shit got shut down.
Seven miles.
Seven miles.
Manseville right across the street from the hip-hop shop.
Oh, you're hard.
That's gonna be from George George.
That's a good for me to here.
Man, it's hard.
I'm gonna pull out some shit that, you know, that's Detroit.
That nigga got the tapes.
Come on, man.
What tell me from a Detroit head, you know, who these people are,
and did you grow up with them,
the influences of the city right there?
You know what I'm saying?
You know why you go through that.
I got a book right here.
Everybody from Detroit.
We got Benzo right there on that page.
Oh, wow.
You're a real nigga, man.
Check it out.
Breed from Flint, though.
That nigga are the legend.
So you already know Flint, Detroit.
That's one.
Them cousins.
Them little brother.
Yeah, you heard.
Man fucking dating family from Flint too.
Eishin, that nigga is a motherfucking real legend, bro.
Like a real, man.
That nigga got 52 albums.
I'm talking about, bro.
A real legend, bro.
Like, he really liked that.
Murder rap.
Dating family, they're from Flint, too.
The boys huge out there.
I knew the Dayton family.
I don't, I ain't gonna lie, I don't know who buddy is.
Chaos and Maestro.
Back in the day, they, uh, seen Detroit dance show.
They was an original Detroit OG artist.
That's hard.
I heard of Detroit most wanted, though.
Potsis, ski.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't know this out there, I don't know this one though.
But these three right here, without a doubt,
Breed, East Ham, the Dayton family, real legends.
Then, um, five years ago.
Stap him in the throat with a dating spot.
Roy signed in front of this, payroll signed it.
I got Elza from Slum Village, T. Grizzly signed it,
so I just used to do Kid Vicious, which is Roy's brother.
You know what I'm saying?
And just talk about the day of how this came about
with this photo and where this was,
and then sign it in the table with him.
Rest in peace, Big Lope, man.
This is my big brother, this is my OG.
This man took care of me, bro.
He did a lot for me.
You know, during my whole bid, before my bed, after my bed,
I looked up to him, I'm out of him.
I got a lot of love for him for his family, for his wife,
his kids and everything.
This big Loke car, rest in peace, long little loke.
That was my big homie.
When he passed, a lot of us was hurt, and we still hurt.
You know what I'm saying?
We did this at his crib.
This his car, two days before I turned myself in the fit.
Man.
You see them bags in the mind?
Yeah, that thing was stressed, boy.
That was the door was coming.
Yeah.
You got a song on here called Pussy ain't got no face.
I'm listening to this shit.
Oh, wait until you pulled it up.
It's crazy.
All the way, man.
Appreciate you, game.
Appreciate you, man.
That's fine.
You see that.
That's right, man, new face preserved.
That's hard, boy, that nigga pulled out
the dating family tape.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
That's crazy.
It's a box sherry with speakers in that bitch.
That's great.
Preserving the culture one tape at a time.
This picture right.
Can you sign the table?
Oh, yeah, I signed a table too.
Oh, that's hard.
Who was in that picture?
But that was actually five years ago today.
That's me, payroll, Peasy, and T. Gris.
That was our Peasy video shoot for that quick remix.
That bitch went up.
That was the first picture we had took with one of the doors.
You can hit it wherever.
Wherever you see.
Whatever you want to.
Hit the corner right.
Yeah, there we go.
Yeah, I see.
There we go.
Big ice on that motherfucker, man.
You heard.
Hey, man, listen, when I tell you,
I appreciate y'all, this is your first time,
but it's just your first time.
First of many, Vince.
You know what I mean?
You see it, man.
This nigga right here is on a legendary course.
Remember when you heard it first, nigga.
Ice the record!
What's your social media?
Icewear underscore Vezo on all social media sites.
Don't forget, paint the city, gangsta, real December 8.
Tag the movie, November 23rd, Magic Theater Roy Loak,
stream in December. Let's get it.
I appreciate y'all, though.
Thank you.
Really love, brother.
Thank you.
We're out of here.
Let's get a photo.
This bitch hard for real.
Nell, A's Nell.
Yeah.
Congratulations for.
Newface got all the plugs, man.
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