The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - Isaiah John in the Trap | The 85 South Show

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

Actor and Atlanta native Isaiah John comes by the Trap to talk about his career, Snowfall, and more! The Black Effect Podcast Network will be making history again with the first Black Effect Podcast Festival taking place on April 22nd in Atlanta. 85 SOUTH will be hitting the live podcast stage with WHOREible Decisions, Checking In With Michelle Williams, Reasonably Shady, BIG FACTS and many more. Make sure to grab your tickets today at BlackEffect.com  || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southshow.com || Custom Merch: www.85apparelco.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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that's not certified in every ghetto. Come on, man. In America. Come on. I told you that we only bring ghetto legends come on to the trap. Come on. And we've been sitting here kicking the Willie Bobo

back and forth. And this bro, that we got that we got on the show with us tonight is most definitely most definitely a ghetto legend. Ghetto ledger. He earned that. Come on. I'm talking about

on America's Come on man. I'd be thinking he really from that time period. TV show. Come on. I'm talking about this shit just had to be. Come on. He right here from his.

Come on. Hold it right. Posted been here after episode one. Come on, man. Come on, man. Really, Posting came after he got to audition. Come on, man. After you found out you had to part. No, well, he had to run.

He had to run. But it's, yeah, it's definitely full serving. You need to be here. Yeah, man. You know, it's just dope when, you know, us as comedians. We get to reach across the entertainment board. Come on. You know, in politics with some of our people

and some of our friends. on the other side of the game that's still handling business in the same aspect, in the same way of blight that we doing it on this side. Yeah. And it's like, first of all, we want to make sure you get all your propers, man, and all your flowers because what y'all doing over there, it's beautiful.

Thank you. And it's really like a classic already. We've got America on the edge of their seat waiting to see that shit. Come on man, one of the best crime dramas on TV. You're up there in that pantheon. with all of them great shows. And I think this show is even gonna have some legs, man.

Like people steadily getting turned on to it. You know what I'm saying? Like you started snowfall, and it's so, yeah. And the memes is dope too. The memes is crazy. Thanks. Yeah. But, yeah.

And you're doing some ghetto legendary shit, so it's only right that you pulled up to the 85 South Show. Ladies and gentlemen, none other than Isaiah. John. Yeah. We're sure. First of all. Let's go.

Welcome to the trap. Come on. Appreciate it. I'm already at home. I'm chilling. We got all types of shit going on. How you been? Been good.

How's your mental health? We got to ask that now as black men. They said we don't ask enough. My mental, my mental has been good, man. Just a lot of life transitions. Yeah. It's been good. Just taking life day by day.

That's all we can do. So before we even talk about one of the dopest shows on TV, we're gonna take it back a step further. How did all this even start, man? How you start acting, my boy? Yeah, black people don't call it acting. Act. That nigga, acting.

You can act. You're acting your head in your head. I see you. I see you. I see you. This nigga, right. You're acting. Stupid crew, where the app from?

Bro, then they can act, but he's good acer, man. Well, you'd be acting your assing in your head, so, but in the jail scene, you should have worn something off that alone. Nick, we ain't got shit to get it. We're gonna sing you something just for that because you should have worn a goddamn.

A oscar. Who found the first nigga in there, you fuck. That shit was amazing. Appreciate it. So how did all, how you start acting, man? Man, um, how did I start acting? apparently I've always wanted to be an actor, which I didn't really understand until

like later in life. I wrote it down when I was in fifth grade that I wanted to be an actor and a veterinarian. Random. You still got time to be a veterinarian, my boy. I mean, I got too many animals that it is, so I'm cool. You're an animal person.

Oh, yeah. I got a whole animal sleeve, like my leg sleeve. Damn. African safari on my name. Don't tell you have a tiger striping, no freaking shit. That nigga. It's gone all the way in here. I got the...

You got the little panther, son? The more... The bull? No phone. And he got the eave on his legs. There's chest, too. None of that. No, that's dope.

That's true. Yeah. You should just... When you say animals, like, you stopping at dogs and cats? Or you got... No, I mean, I got a lot of land, so I'm about to have, like, chickens, goats, like...

Get some llamas, bro. I don't want the llamas. They be spitting. Yeah, they spit, dog. I don't want that. Get you some of them little ghosts that just pans out. I don't want that either. You see the motherfuckers, they just...

Yeah, they just... You scare them, oh shit, you scare them and they... See, the go out and they're falling out. Yeah. Look at it, look at it. The shit is going to go high, you shit, fain all the time. They get high, you probably don't paint no more. He just be stuck.

He's just be in the shit, huh? The ghost just be in the back. Just look at this. Yeah, get some exacting shit out. Feel that motherfucker up. That's gonna be. But yeah, so when I was 13, that was when I made the conscious decision

that I was like, you know, I wanted to try acting. And I was really shy growing up. So when I told my mom that I wanted to act, she was like, no, you don't have the personality for it. And I'm like, I really want to do it. So it took a year for me to convince her that I was serious. And my dad, he works at the hospital at Piedmont.

And his coworker, he was in film school, and he was doing a short film. He was like, yeah, I need an actor for my short film or whatever. My dad was like, well, my son want to try acting, so you can use my son. And so that was the first acting gig I had was a short film about domestic violence. And then ever since then, I just, I ran with it. I just started studying. I didn't want to audition for nothing.

I just wanted to study. Like, because to me, I'm big on, like, my pride just won't let me, like, not put my all into it. And I didn't want to be viewed as trash. So I just, I'm like, I got to study this craft because. I want to be good. So I spent most of my years pursuing acting, just studying with different coaches and figuring out which method worked better for me

attacking different characters. So, yeah, that's pretty much what I did. Like, throughout my teams, when I hit high school, I was at a public school for, like, my first semester in ninth grade, and I was like, I need to get homeschool so I can, like, really dive in some more into my craft.

So my parents was cool with it. And so I started, like, traveling to El to LA. Luckily, this amazing coach that is my favorite coach that I work with so far. His name is Carl Ford. He came down to Atlanta and did like an intensive. And we started, we would start at like 7 p.m. and won't stop until 7 a.m. of just straight acting, like overnight. Because his whole ideology behind that was like, you need to be ready even when you're tired. Yeah. A lot of times you know how them shoes go? They long as head.

And I've always been the youngest in my. I've always been the youngest in my. in my class, like back then, so around that time I was 17, and, like, he was just telling me like how great he thought I was and stuff like that. And so I was a part of this acting group called AOA, and Gail Bean, she was actually part of the L. That's what I was going to ask you about, but I never met her. I was going to ask you with me. We never, never met, which is crazy, yeah, it is crazy. So we never met. But I did a, I did this thing called monologue slam where any actor in Atlanta could audition just perform a monologue and they chose like the top 10 actors and if you were the top 10 you could perform that monologue in front of John Singleton so I was like dope so I did it

I was one of the top 10 but when it came down to time to perform in front of John Singleton he never showed up so I was like bro what like never showed it they said he was stuck on his boat like around some island I was like yeah yeah yeah line so that kind of like crushed my dreams at that point And so I graduated high school in 2014. After that, my dad, he's Caribbean. He's from Trinidad, grew in Jamaica. And when I told him I didn't want to go to college and I wanted to still pursue acting,

that was like a whole conversation. He was like, no, you go to school. And I was like, no, my mom, she really pushed me, you know, in my acting career. She was like, I really think he could do it. So I didn't go to college. And I was still auditioned. And I was still auditioning for different roles.

By this point, I still haven't booked anything, really, at all. I'm still just studying the crap. And so when I was, how old was I? I don't know, but after that, after high school, the only job I can get, I was flexible with auditions was like a restaurant job. So I had a restaurant job. Then, so I was an server.

I was 18. I was a server. Which was cool. It was like a little, I knew the owner, it was like a smaller restaurant called Village Cafe. And the manager at the time, he probably gonna see this shit too. The manager at the time, I couldn't come into work because I had to audition.

I was like, and I told him, like, bro, I got this audition tomorrow. He was like, well, if you can't find nobody to take over your shift, then you can't go. I'm like, what? Tell me I can't go to audition, so I just ain't go. So he wrote me up. He wrote me up and on a write-up.

And I wish, I intended to keep it because I always knew who I was. was going to become. Right. But on the write-up, he said, you miss work for an audition where you know you're not going to make it in his industry. Like, you're not going to make it in the industry. And so, when he wrote that on your shit.

He wrote it on my writing. I wouldn't have satin that whole ass shit. Hey, if you can wrote up at work, you're on satin' pussy ass shit. You ain't got to sign that shit. Damn. You ain't got to sign that shit. You didn't got to sign that shit.

Yeah, so after that. Like, I quit shortly after that, and then I, I, became a janitor at a gym, and I was a janitor for like two years. But honestly, I loved that job. Like, that janitor job was lit. Word! The reason why I was lit,

because I learned a lot about myself. Like, I learned patience. It really, like, helped me creatively because I had so much time to myself. Yeah, that's an OG job. Janitor. He was a young man, being a janitor. They're gonna all clean this bitch up in 10 men.

What's your time at? I'm all for seven minute and out. The kids, Harry, thank. What? I'm all in the drink machine with it. I'm all in the drink machine with it. I felt like it was like an old people gym. It was just a whole bunch of old white people at this gym.

Oh, yeah. They was leaving phones and money and all kinds of shit. In 2015, I booked a small roll in Barbershop 3. It was just one quick scene with Tiger. quick scene with Tyga and Michael Rainey, and they used that scene in the promo. Oh, that's what Tiger was a gay stunt now. Yeah, yeah.

Ah! I remember that bitch! That's the only thing I remember for that movie. I'm like, I'm fuck with Tyga, I'm like, why they got this nigga being a Game Through in Chicago? This is how I know I'm how. When you said that shit, the first shit in my mind

was like, nigga, Tiger was in boxing? Right, right. The only line I remember from any of the barbershop series is, if you want to get down, you got to vote for Lalo Brown. That's the only line I remember. I don't remember nothing about the barbershop three besides Tiger being a gangster. In the movie, he bounced out like, what's up, y'all? And that's the scene I was in.

Oh, shit. That's in a shit, I was in. You were born in the gangster? Yeah. Yeah. That's true, man. Ice cube too serious to be a barber, man. I don't even believe that shit.

Ice cube way too mean to be a fucking barber, man. What you want to get your-j? What type of cut you on? You're looking at your line up. It's fucked up. No, ice good. Why are you running all in the shot? Icekew wasn't that means get away with shit, man.

I don't know no barber that mean. Ain't nobody coming back to him. Oh, bruh. Just because you owned the shop, Calvin. You remember his name? Calvin. Hey, wait, man, hold on, so just the goddamn recap. So you got there was just studying acting.

Yeah. On your own, wasn't even auditioning. You were just getting good. I was trying to get auditions, but I really wasn't getting any auditions. But you kept, boy, hey, that's what the fucking people. That's the grand, though. Yeah. You put the work in.

Yeah. And then so by the time, so you said, what, 13? and then by high school you was auditioning for shit and you hit that job single to shit, didn't get that shit. Yeah, well, that was really just like to get in front of him. Okay. But, like, while I was doing a janitor job, I was doing a lot of auditions, even after Barbershop.

And the weird part about the industry back then for me was, it was my look. My look hindered me a lot because I would audition, obviously, for African-American roles, and they would tell me that I don't look black in America. Really? What? You look like a nigger to me. But see, that's what they don't know.

But they never tell you what you look like. Because tell me what I look like. You see what I'm saying, though? That's the same time. What I look like that? Yeah. Black people come in a thousand different colors. Yeah.

And after five, that's right here. Oh, look. Exactly. Yeah. Mama's. Exactly. Now you're starting to get this shit. And people love to say, no.

But if you really look at just history, it's just like that. But that's the thing about it, bray. Even if you, even if they thought that shit, they still shouldn't tell a black man that he can't audition to be a black man. Yeah, was he, was the people black that they would tell you wasn't black enough? Yeah, that was black?

Yeah, that was the type of shit is that. That was fucking crazy. He tried to overdo it. It's like the black police on me. It really wasn't like, you ain't black enough. It's like you don't look like the rest of the family. Like everybody else look, obviously black. But imagine you make sure you how much shit

they don't know about black people. Every family in the house got one motherfucker don't look like nobody. Facts. Oh, my mama. It's just a random-ass baby. Like your mama don't really talk about that shit. Like everybody in the family,

you know, you know, she don't look like. Everybody ain't got the same last name in this house. Now Lewis looked like my brother. Now Lewis looked just like my brother. You get an uncle named Peewee living in the truck that you look just like. You know, that's how black families work. I need to go on here to get in position, man,

because they don't even know, bro. Sometimes black families that just have a random-ass white person in that motherfucker. Oh, mama. Exactly. Yeah. He used to fuck with your auntie that died,

your grandma's sister. He just never left. Just a random-ass white side of the family. I write some shit. Keep going, bro. But no, so after that, like, it just... That's fucked up, though. discourage me because to me it's like if you tell me I'm bad that's cool I can get better

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I just wanted to take a break from even pursuing acting. So in 2015, Snowfall did their original pilot. John Singleton, you know, he wrote it, he casted everybody. Hold on you got to tell us how you reconnected with him. I ain't reconnected one yet. I'm telling you about how Snowfall started so it can connect the dots. Oh, okay. So John, he did an original pilot in 2015 with a whole.

Jill Scott was the auntie, D. Ray was the uncle. It was a completely different cast. I mean, Damson was still Franklin back then, but they had a different Leon, everybody. So my mom, she found a project, but it was already cast it. She's like, dang, I'd say it would have been perfect for Leon. And so what she did was she has a background in law for 28 years, so she just, she just do her research.

And so a year later, she found out in 2016, and they were recasting because FX finally picked it up. and they wanted to do a series with it. So at this point, my agent at the time here in Atlanta, she told him, like, y'all should pitch Isaiah for Snowfall. And it was like, we're not going to pitch him for Snowfall. That's an L.A. show, and we don't do that. And so she took it upon herself.

She found out who was casting. And so she sent a pitching herself. I didn't know. All this time, I didn't know. I'm at work mopping floors. I'm like, I was an OG. You know what you used to listen to while you was mopping floors. Man, honestly, I ain't even gonna lie.

And I only, this first time saying this on record, I used to, like, write my own songs. Like, why? Because, you know, that's what the nigger gonna do. You know what I'm gonna be rapping. You're in a whole hour. You had a whole hour. You're blacking right now.

Your own shit. My own shit. Hey, man, I don't listen to me. It's something like that. All I listen to is me, my nigger. Who knows your soul? All I listen to is me, my nigg. All I listen to me, my nigg.

Hey, all I listen to is me, my niggie. All I listen to is need, my nigga. Hey, hey, go self, self, self, go self, self, self, by my damn self. No, ma'am. Now, ma'am. Now, that's crazy. Drop that shit now, though.

Never. Gotta go up. Never. Never. Oh, man. But yeah, so this whole time, I'm not really knowing what's going on. And so she texted me. She said, oh, you got to audition for snowfall.

It's a John Singer to show. Because the casting director, she responded. She said, I'm not casting for the role Leon yet, but followed back up in two weeks. She followed back up in two weeks, and she said, okay, cool. Here's the audition side. Like, have them audition, put them on tape. So she texts me, oh, you got to audition for Snowfall.

It's a John Singer's show based about the crack epidemic in the 80s. And at this point, I was so discouraged about not being black enough. I was like, I'm not auditioning for this show. I was like, they're going to tell me I'm not black enough. I ain't doing it. I'm not doing it. I'm not wasting my tongue. And so we argued about it, like,

you're going to audition. I'm like, I'm not. I'm not doing it. So I finally did it. My first take, I just did it just to do it. She knew it was trash. She's like, it's trash. She redo it.

She coached me on what she wanted to see. And then, so I did what she wanted me to do and left it along, just going to work. And then a few days later, or probably a week later, they said that they wanted to fly me out for her chemistry with Damson. And so at this point, I'm like, and then they sent me like a pre-contract told me how much I was making

and I'm like shit I'm like damn this is getting real and so but at this point I still wasn't necessarily sold because in my head I'm like if I go and I don't get the road and I just gotta come back to my normal

it's just you know what I'm saying I was just like it's cool but it's not concrete so basically they flew me out on a Tuesday and they had a return flight on a Thursday So it was supposed to be like a three-day trip if I didn't book.

So she bought herself a one-way ticket because she's like, you're going to book. I was like, I don't know. We don't know. So we get to L.A., they send me the audition size. I'm studying the script, whatever. Wednesday is the actual in-person audition. So I get there, there's like two or three other dudes auditioning for Leon. They dressed in L.A. attire.

They doing everything, L.A. I'm like, I'm in regular street, Atlanta clothes. I'm just like, you know what I'm saying, my regular stuff? I was like, man, there's somebody going to book because they're really in character. And so I think I was the last one that auditioned for it too. But what I noticed is that

Dampson, before each one would go in the room, he would come out in the hallway, talk to them, build some kind of quick report because they got to play best friends like Leon and Franklin. So he's talking to them in the hallway, you know what I'm saying, building a quick report.

I'm like, cool. So when it's my turn, he's going to talk to me too. Nope. When they called me to do the audition, they called me in the room, I'm like, the nigga ain't going to talk to me. So we in the room, I see him, and it's like 15 Fox executives. And so I'm like, bro, I ain't never been in an audition with 15 executives, like, ever in my life.

But in my head, I'm like, bro, you got like a dollar in your account, bro. You better not be scared. Yeah, you're too broke to be scared. Yeah, yeah, mama. So I got in the room, man, real shit, bro. That's real. So I got in the room, and Damson was like, he's like, hey, what's your name? I said, Isaiah.

He said, oh, that's my nephew's name. Okay, dope. So that was the only thing we connected in that moment. was the fact that his nephew had the same name as me. And so I'm standing there, I'm just looking at him. And they say, yeah, we know we gave you this script to perform, but we don't want you to do that. We want you to improv with Damson.

So they just gave me a scenario to just improv with him. And the scenario was in season one, where I was on a bus with the boom box, and the white man told me to turn it down and I go off on the white man, like, That was a scenario. But who they had me cuss out was Tommy Shlami. Tommy Shlami, he's like a very powerful,

important person in Hollywood. And so he was in the audition room and stuff like that. And so he said, yeah, so I just want, here's a scenario, I just want you to, you know, act like you're listening to your music. And I'm an old white man, I'm just gonna tell you to turn it down and he just cuss me out. And I said, that's it, that's it.

Yeah, just cuss me out. I'm like, can we give the camera up with you, yeah, cuss out of Tommy Salami. So when he said that, I'm like, And we get in type before he does this thing. That's when I would start getting confident. I'm fin to get this motherfucker now. I was so confused.

I was like, what? Cush you out for all this shit for a TV show? Run it. So me and damn soon, we just fall into the scene. Like we kicking it, we talking, talking shit to each other, whatever. And then he randomly interrupted. It's like, hey, can you turn it down, look at him, and I just go, God, cuss him out.

And so after that, after the scene was over, I was like, like, soak a few. I'm like, so what happens next? You know what I'm saying? But after I just left, I just left. I was like, appreciate it. He said it didn't get mad for real. Huh?

Didn't get mad for real. Ah, he was, no. Man, when you left, that motherfucker. I thought I had a good hairpiece. Gwen? Have you talked to Tommy? Still not answering?

Am I, you're jumping? What's going on? You're going to love to be a big. I'm just, so I left. So in your man, where you think? They said I wouldn't black enough. Watch this shit.

Honestly, I was so in the moment. I didn't even think about nothing else. Like, and that's kind of how I am. I just try to be in a moment with life in general. To where even right now, honestly, like, me being on snowfall still hasn't hit me. Watch this shit. Even when I watch it, it still hasn't hit me,

like, that, oh, snowfall is this. Like, it don't hit me. I'm just like, you know what I'm saying? It's cool. You know, that's just how I've been. my whole life with anything that I've experienced in life. I'm just like, it's cool. Like, I don't know, even when my son was born,

I'm like, this is dope, you know what I'm saying? Like, I'm like, I'm here, it's cool. You don't know what the fuck gonna impress you though. Hey, I don't know. It's a little bit. But it's gonna walk the house, a nigga gonna flip the ball and it's gonna lame, like, how the fuck did you do that?

Be impressed by the small and yeah, yeah. So, um, so, no, hold up, man, you deserve, you deserve you deserve. All right, damn, let me tell the people to stay humble all the time. And you're the definition of that shit. You're so humble, you don't even know, you know, the doping shit on TV?

Yeah. I'll tell you how you can appreciate it. Buy cable, pay the bill, and then look at all the other shit that you got to choose from. More, pay a bunch of people cable bill in Ghana and let them watch it. You see the seed you playing?

What's crazy is when I went, when I went before. When I was on the jetway, before I even got in the airport, they was like, snowfall, snowfall. I'm like, y'all watch Snowfall in Kama? That's wrong. That's hard. And they're on to date, too.

They don't see the five, but they on them to date. So it was dope. Like, we got a fan base, like, from all over the world. So that's a dope thing about the show. Like, it's impacted a lot of people from a lot of walks of life. Let me ask you this. You're a young dude. Who did you study for?

studied from that era? From the 80s? Yeah. So when I actually booked the role, I had like a few days to prepare until the first day of filming. So,

Dub C, like he was a huge part in how I was able to understand West Coast culture and especially from that area and talking to John Singleton. Right.

Like, had both of them on speed that I talked to him about the script. Like, just understanding, like, everything, trying to get the accent, the walk, just the aura, the feel of West Coast in the 80s. So really, John and Dub was the two most important people in my character development, 100%. Man, you got to work with the great job. Yeah, I'm saying, too, man. What's some of them things you picked up, like, from, or that, you know,

is unique to the West Coast or something like this on the top of your head? Yeah, really, like, especially in that time was just, the walk like they bail like when they walk and you know what I'm saying they walk with a certain confidence like they head up they chest up everything um and just how they talk like just they swag you know what I'm saying they they the accent is kind of it's kind of country like a lot of people from the west coast back then was from the south they just moved to the west coast so it has a lot of southern twang to it but um but yeah it didn't take long like dub really really he was on set every day, you know, and then learning, because Damson was a part of the first pilot,

so he's been with Snowfall since the very beginning of Snowfall. So even talking to him and what he's learned, you know, from talking to everybody and being around everybody. So luckily I had to, I got to talk to everybody in because I'm into dogs, like my dog training, he's based in LA in Compton, so I was in Compton a lot, talking to a lot of OGs in Compton. So I got to talk to so many people who are from that time. to where I didn't have to guess or, you know, just try to go off instinct. I'm like, now I can talk to so many people and just hit him up and ask him certain questions.

So that helped me a lot in my character development. Yeah, you did a good job. You're doing a good job because I thought you was from L.A. the whole time. I'm like, boy. What's some game that John Singleton put you up on, like, you know, he wanted the giants of the industry. Yeah, he was really big on never forgetting your performance. people and like he said if you if you if you always if you never forget your people you'll always

have a fan base to fall on like our people will always support you so never never feel like you too big for your own people um and that and that's that's a huge thing and just man he's he gave me a lot of game he he even though my dad had been doing photography for years but john really helped me and made me pick the camera up and get into photography because he saw I had an eye and he was like, you're going to direct one day. Just start with the camera. Just start the camera. So we would be on set showing each other pictures.

I'm taking pictures of John. He's taking pictures of me. So it's a lot of different things that I was able to just connect with John on. So, yeah. He's a legend for sure. And that's a big full circle thing, too, man. Yeah. Oh, yeah.

So when I met him at the first table read, he said, because I thought that whole boat story was, like cap. So when I met him, the first thing he walked, he said, Isaiah. I was like, shit, he didn't know my name. And so he was like, he said, I was supposed to meet you a few years ago, but I was stuck on my boat and I was like, oh, so you really were stuck on your bro? I thought that was a lie.

And he was like, he said, but I did see your tape back then. He said, you are an amazing actor. That was the first thing he said to me and that shit. That's a hell of a compliment. He is boy. That's John. That's John Cesar. I booked the show when I was 20, and I'm 27 now, so I spent, like, most, you know what I'm saying?

Me becoming a man, like, on this show and around John and around some great people, Sean. Man, it's a hell of a breakout role, bro. It's some dope shit to be a part of, and I think I just, like it more than knowing that you worked on that shit, bro. Like, made a decided effort at a young age, man, to dedicate yourself to something. because that's what this comedy thing is, but it's a little bit easier, you know what I'm saying? Because it's really just getting out late at night and hanging out and talking shit, but to, you know, like...

But that's the studying of it, though. It is, it is, it is. And you know, you've got to dive into acting a different way. So, man, that's awesome. Yeah, I always tell people, like, it's... Like, I didn't wish to be who, like, in this position. I didn't believe. It's like, you got to even take belief a step further.

You got to know, like, I knew. You know what I'm saying? because I feel like even with belief, there's room for doubt. You know what I'm saying? I knew. So I was just waiting for the opportunity. And you had a good-ass support system, too. Yeah, at 100%.

That's so valuable. That's a whole asset when you're trying to do anything, like, outside the box. Outside, you know what I'm saying, like chasing a career or something like that? Shout out of mom. You got to have that support system, girl. That's real. Yeah. Yeah, so this journey, it's been.

It's been real interesting, but it's dope. Man, that's crazy. How did you get on the barbershop again with Tiger? Man, here you go. Don't need to talk to this nigga, man. John Singleton's here. Yeah, he hung up on the wrong, yeah. He got him in the faces.

So, bro, John Singleton put you in barbershop, right? So wait a minute, wait a minute, Tiger hired John Singleton. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait. You got to work with one of the grave, the late, you up, I mean, I'm saying, you got the word with Tiger, man. What Tyler said? What Tiger said, girl? The highlight of that shit was back then, he was dating Kylie Jenner, so he came to

sit, Kylie Jenner was on set, everybody. Oh, Kylie was on set. Yeah. But, no, that's crazy. That was funny. He brought her, Kylie was on the barbershop set. That's what's crazy, man. You would never know.

You would have never know. She probably don't want it know. you know what barbershop was. She thought she was going with that nigga to go get a haircut. You didn't go to the garage shop. Ice cube shooting a fucking movie. Ice cube shoots a movie when you get

your hair cut? That's so fucking cool. So every time you get a haircut they make a movie. Who is this? Tiger Man, they shot it on a red cam. Everybody was there.

T-ray! Fucking ice cute. Eve was there drinking apple juice. Said the entertainer was dressed like Einstein? Oh my. Did you know like Cedenthal's like seven years old? And we're like, Tyler, all this shit.

Tyler, hey, they didn't even come home and like, baby, they're making movies, bro. They're making big shit. Believe in me. Wait till you turn 18. You were surprised. That's a hell. What's funny.

All right, fuck it. Whatever. Blame me. I don't want to say it, but right now, we currently filming some of the seasons, goddamn eight of snowfall right here in the traffic. This is in the show. No, I'm just bullshit, but that's a hell of a plug.

Yeah, sure. Man, so you, you know, our home girl, girl, she came through the traffic. Yeah, that's my girl. We gotta get everybody all y'all. We need the whole cast. I don't know when, how we're gonna work there. Do you be tired of that?

People be actually like where your cast makes at? Right, I'll be at public something to him. We're Dembson at. We're Franklin at. Yeah. Yeah. You can't. We're Franklin in the street.

In London. I don't know. He's having a spot a team like to win. I called the Pranklin first time I met him. I met all you at the same time. Yeah. Yeah. All y'all, niggins.

Leon, what's it? They at the show, I'm like, what's up, nigga? But see, that's how you know the shit good, that's when they call you the character, Nick. That's when you acting, man. Everybody called me Leon. And they'd be like, oh, I'm like, I'm like, man, it's cool.

I don't be tripping. I know some actors don't like me and call their character name, but to me you can't fault how somebody know you. Yeah. They know you as Leon. They know me, I'll be Leon all day. I'm telling you all, y'all, this show immersive, man. Anybody that's not on snowfall,

I don't know what the fuck you're doing, you feel like you know these motherfuckers. You'd be, like, the tense situation, I told you, I'd be sweating with the shit. I'd be like, how the fuck they gonna get out there? Oh, I don't know what they ain't gonna do. Yeah. Just wait to his last season.

They were dead man. Money like that. This last season, crazy. Yeah. Crazy. You drive to him. Oh, my God, I can't wait. They named everybody right, too.

Like, you look like a Leon on the under. Like, like, Franklin looks like Franklin. You know, man. This shit, believable in the motherfucking. He just looked like. Nick, if you stressed after that shit, and like, damn, bro, I got a way to another week. Not a shit, dope.

Yeah. I was put in rock with that tiger that was in the hood in the backyard. You know, L.A. niggins, so he's mad. No, I ain't going to no tiger on the set, man. Can you don't know nobody moving this much weight to where L.A.? You don't know what the fuck going on.

No, first of all, I'm going to say this. They're not that expressive. A tiger? They not. Yeah, if you're down young. I saw the, what you called? What's the white man? Joey Zoddy.

Yeah, $2,500. What? Poor baby tiger. I can get a tiger. It's illegal, though, you can't buy a tiger. It's illegal. Unless you get a permit. I'm glad you told me, because you got to see me with a tiger.

You want to be a veteran for real. Hey, man, I just thought of the most big of this shit. You cannot give a nigger a tiger. Can you imagine that you grow over a nigger house? He got a tiger, he says some niggish shit. Hey man, my tiger don't bite. That nigga, would say that was food. That's what I'd be wanting a moment.

I don't know, that shit, boy, that's too much. You heard how to do that Harlem had one? Yeah. In his apartment. Yeah. See, you still don't buy it? Why you can't have a tiger though? You got to have a perfect.

Because it's a fucking apex predator, Louis. That's why. Because it's not just stay little, yeah. It's an apex predator. You're right. It literally is, nigg. Could you have a monkey? No, motherfucker.

Because people got to have permit, you gotta be in the right place. Yeah, and you depend on what kind. It's a list of animals. Then it's a list of animals not to fuck with. Yeah, yeah. He loved animals and he don't even fuck with the shit. That's on the list of shit. Remember the crazy dude, let all his animals go?

Yes. In the middle of the night. In Ohio, some guy, damn where. He had wolves, lions, tigers, bears. He let them all go. He let them go in the middle of night. They had to put them all down. They ain't found all that shit, no.

I know they didn't. That cheetah got up out of there. That cheetah was... That cheetah is scooping up dogs left and right, but... Yeah, that's crucial. I think that's everybody's biggest fear, though, is to go outside one day, you're just chilling on your porch,

hitting a little piece of blunt, and you see some shit that you know ain't supposed to be out there. Yeah, that's trash. I'm talking about a nigga, a fucking silverback gorilla just in the bushes and walk out there and look up and see you. Yeah, you were like, what the fuck? How did this get here? Now, would you rather see that?

some UFO alien type of shit. I'd rather see the fucking aliens. I feel like you might see him at the same time. No one thing. Hey, gorilla. I need to tell me what that is. Alien or gorilla? I'd rather see the aliens, bro.

The aliens, it depends. I don't know, bro. That's hella scary. We got one thing on that set. We black. They probably gonna get scared than a motherfucker. They ain't never seen black. Oh, they're coming to get.

They are black. But they ain't never seen black folks. No, the alien is black. I'm telling you, they come up and they're kind of like you're gonna get up. They're gonna get up and the shit gonna look like I'll never rule. We're like, what the fuck? They could be like, we've been waiting on you. What about that?

What about it's like a female alien, that motherfucker kinda cute. You guys go, go. That's what's going to happen when they come. It's gonna be my neighbor. The avatar is kind of cute. I'm telling you, the motherfucking aliens might be cute too. First of all, you gotta stop doing this. You got stop thinking that.

A alien bitch is gonna have the same shit that we fuck with. You think this bitch from 4,000 trillion light years away is gonna have a regular vagina where this shit gonna be in the middle of her. It's gonna be someone like that. It's not gonna be, it's not, like. I like how you took that somewhere.

I thought it wasn't going. I thought you said a pussy was going literally be a black hole. It's gonna suck you in. When she's from another galaxy, what makes you think you got the right can? down the dick to even show. Oh, man.

Your dick might have to go like that. You don't even know his motherfuckers from another galaxy. That is. That is. Yeah. You're like, them the boys. Your bitches is out of healing than a motherfucker. You don't have no skills.

All the things look like you. It looked like you. You got the whole species confused. Brow, that's hell really funny. Oh, that's true. You don't know who the fuck you're joking to. I thought he was a bitch. There is no such thing.

We don't have my kids either. Look, are you pregnant? We are from a bitchless galaxy. There are all no women. Why do you think we're playing around this motherfucker? They're looking for some holly. We don't know earth. We come to Earth.

We still lost exactly $23,200. 76 niches. They are not missing. They're in a little girl with some pepper. Who are you talking? Hey, man. You wouldn't drink them right now. Come on, man.

Oh, shit. That's hell of funny. That is hilarious. What are you looking for? I like a long-half-thig red bone. Talked you in there! That's the crazy part about it, though. The fucking aliens probably ain't nothing

but niggas just riding through galaxies, fucking with time and space and energy. Just fucking these niggas is in the process of reversing the civil rights movement and everything. We just can't gather up enough speed and just go stop the bullet. You think they got polis? Can you think that, so if you got time travel,

you wouldn't go back to search. and shit in history. Like think about aliens, they know if they're from the future, let's say they're from the future. So they know the shit that's supposed to have, let's go back and watch it. No, they don't have police, bro. They have intelligence.

That means they're smart enough to not do shit that need to be police. Aliens. Like, imagine you see other aliens run from the police aliens. No, no, no, I think it's from- That'd be crazy, right? Well, aliens or uniforms and shit, d-dee-dee-dee.

You worry about the space police, man. That's a matter of thing you got to worry about. I'll be, I'll be most scared on an alien Four weeks. You don't use guns. They drove you up with their mind. They shrink your goddamn brain in your head. And you just die.

Man. See? Keep playing with them fucking. They be screaming at you with you. They ain't got no mouth. Just do that next thing you know your head hurt. My fucking looking at you by the world. They smarter than us, bro.

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You can't walk, but you can't start. You know what, bro, some of this shit too good not to believe. We've been believing in what we believe for so long. I'm looking for some new shit to believe. I mean, my question is, is how in the last last hundred years, we advanced so much technology, but we supposedly been here for hundreds of thousands of years. How we didn't have cars 50,000 years ago?

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to be like, we'll try it again when y'all get your shit together. I don't even think he was blowing up. I think he let us blow it up. Pop! You're like, Oh, I'm talking about this shit on these germs and give me another race of people,

starting. I told y'all about them warheads. Motherfucking been ate these something that they have Coca-Cola themselves to be in four. They're so fat and immobile. The only people that I can truly rely on

on those good old Chinese. Oh, man, you're stupid. See the type of shit we get to talking about Once the weed really settles in I feel that Yeah So, bro When you sit back and watch the show, bro

You just be chilling and just like That shit don't never just hit you where you had those moments Or you just really just We're on some artist shit just criticizing I'd be criticizing I'm like, I don't even believe myself right there But no It's hard for me to like

like watch anything for real. Yeah. Because I would like, oh, that's cool, that's cool, this is not cool, whatever. I'm always looking at the acting, looking at the shot, looking at the lighting, the continuity. Oh, they didn't have that pin like that

in that last shot. It's just, yeah, it's different. That's why you're gonna be director. It's different. Yeah, you know what I'm gonna. I mean, look at stuff the same way. Eventually. Sometimes you, but you know, I smoke a lot of weeds

and sometimes I could just turn my brain off and watch some bullshit. Amin, who plays Uncle Jerome, he directed episode this season. Yeah. Shout out on Jerome. That clean-hand cutting. I got one of them.

Had to get one. That's what it's called too, Jerome. Yeah, and it was fire. He's the reason why I performed that jail scene the way that I did. Man, that's shit so far. Please tell me. That's one of my favorites thing.

Man, let's talk about it. So we... Break it down from it. John Singleton. Inside the black actor studio today with Andrea Jones. Isaiah, you had a very powerful. A very powerful scene.

A riveting performance, a moving, shocking, thrilling, exhilarating, moving. It was such a, it was genuine portrayal. What we call and black actors' guild haven't got the Atlantic lover. From the Dinsale Washington School of Acting on the West Side of Harlem. Yes. to accomplish young actors we've ever had inside the black actors studio. There was a chill scene while you were visiting a friend of yours. Take us through that scene where you really showed you death as an actor.

Quite impressed over here in the 85 South Show we'd give it six black thumbs up. Seven if we hadn't. Seven if we had one more. We had one more. But on a scale of one to six, you got a six. No, for real. Tell us about this. That was in the hall. For sure.

So John Singleton, he typically directed our season finale. So this was season two. So it was his episode. And the scene was obviously, it was a strong scene. It was cool. And I was performing the scene. I was, it was good. It was good.

Well, we wanted to make it great. And Amon pulled me to a side, and he was just like, look, he said, fuck everything. He said, fuck the words. Fuck, fuck, screw up, fuck everything. He said, just go off how you feel? He said, you're seeing your man's right now. Fucked up in the face. He said, just let however you feel go.

He said, just do whatever you want to do in that moment. I was like, cool. And that really, in that moment, it just turned me up. Like, I was like, I was like, watch, this is going to be the last take. So I, John's like, are you ready? I'm like, yeah, ready. So we start performing. I do my coverage.

So we're doing the scene. I break the phone, da-da-da, everybody clapping. And I'm like, oh, yeah, we really ain't doing this again. I broke the phone. So that's got to be it. And so John was like, we got it. And then I didn't really understand how it was going to be pieced together. I was just in the moment.

I just was like, all right, that. That was, you know, I felt good about that one. But when I saw it, I was like, man, like, that made me feel a certain kind of way. And I was like, that's dope when I can make myself feel my own performance. You know, and that's how I feel about this last season. I got a lot of those moments that I cannot wait. But everybody got these moments, man. Like, everyone really went crazy this season with their performances.

So it's going to be dope to see everybody, see everybody's reaction to this season. You do your thing when you get pissed. off. For sure. Well, Mama. Just go crazy. Just go crazy. Just go crazy.

Because even, I think season four, it's like every time they give me like a race and I got a race on, I broke a table. I threw a chair in the wall and it stuck in the wall in one take.

I was like, they know, they write I'm gonna be anger. I'm gonna break something. You need a budget. I was just wondering. With you friend of love with the crackhead

to do. That is first of all. Well, she wasn't a crackhead at first. That was, yo girl. But she wasn't the thing. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.

She wasn't. A ghetto love story of Romeo and Juliet proportions. Because everybody, from her getting you out the way of the book, from running off with the dope and, like, yeah, man. She'll ride or die. Yeah. She'll smoke a ride. She'll smoke and ride, ride and smoke to you die.

I think with that specific love story, I think Leon just felt, um, obligated to not stick by her side, because he ended up getting a new girl eventually, and then he just doubled back. But he felt kind of at fault. He introduced her to crack, to be around crack. So he felt responsible, you know?

So I think that's where the core of their love story is, is the fact that he felt like if it wasn't for him, she would have never went down that road. I like the dynamic of that shit, though. It's just, I don't know, it just hit there. Really, really when me and Gail did our, our chemistry, that's when, like, it was her and, like, I think three or four other girls who auditioned for Wanda. And I treated that audition like it was mine.

I was off, off book. I knew the lines. So when I was performing with each girl, like, I was in it with them. I'm like, I'm not going to be reading and make you have to try to pull something out of, No, like we're in the scene for real, because if we gonna be love interest, you know, for a long period of time, I gotta make sure, like, we can go toe to toe.

So she was probably like the second to last girl auditioning, but when we're talking, she's like, yeah, I went to AHA Way and then I'm like, really? Like, so we, I'm like, oh, we know the same people. So when we get in the room, like, she was like the only one who, I went, we went at it, like, we went at it.

So I was like, she wanted. So when she got out the room, I told all the producers, I said, that's Wanda, for sure. Because she was the only one who really went, like, she would not back. There was no sense of, I'm backing down because you Leon, like, no, like, I'm Wanda. You know what I'm saying? So it was dope.

Like, it was dope. Like, what y'all see today is what she brought in the room that day. So that's why everybody was like, she was perfect for this character. And the fact that what really, you know, to me isn't a test to her talent is because when she booked the show, I don't think she knew that her character was going to be on crack. Right. So she, just imagined if she was trash. You know what I'm saying?

Like, that story wouldn't have sold the way that it did. But because she's a great actress, like, when they told her that she was going to be on crack, she just did her research. She really did her research, talk to a lot of people. Don't say it like that. She didn't do crack now. Hey, don't you fucking do it.

We love it. And she really got into character, you know what I mean? I didn't say she was met him. I said you did all her research. She went back to the neighborhood. So Auntie, how did they start? She did her thing, so I'm glad you asked. Nobody ever asked me about my stories.

I'm glad you came and visited me. Right. You're stupid. Look at my side. Look, I'll tell you exactly, I'm going to exact. I'm in the exact weekend after me. And look, my boy James came on there, right? We both ain't gonna get some liquor.

Man, naked thing you know I was hired and a guy, you know? That'd be all fucked up, man. Shit. I watched the bottle, man, fucking TV. That shit had me. That shit had me fucked up, man. I was watching TV,

then the TV jumped on top of the movie. Motherfucking Nate Doe had a tiger in the back. He said, a picture of me. I threw my goddamn keys down the hallway. Let's start sweating. Then the bitch jumped on me. Like another one of the motherfuckler. That when the devil came up.

about the float. Bullshit, you're not. He just pulled the flow back and said, you'll be there on, you're sorry. And he zipped the motherfucker up. That nigga pulled it off and he zipped it up. When the fuck he put a zip on the floor? So I why I won't go in their kitchen no more.

Bro. Oh, shit. D. D-hmm, man. Yeah, dope. D-ray on the show, too. Yeah. Yeah.

My God. Peaches. I was like you laughing at the nigga name. Cause, peaches, hell of funny. You know that. People call them peaches sometimes, too. Nobody named Peaches.

That nigga'd be like, bro. What's up, bro? It'll be hilarious. Yeah. It'd be cool. It seems like y'all be, y'all got a good relationship that cast.

Man, I tell everybody, we like a family outside of Snowfall. Like, we all kick it. We got a group chat. Even the old white dudes and shit be on there. What, at the group chat? Yeah.

Nah. I thought you meant everybody be on there. The black side. The cast, yeah. There ain't a lot of old white dudes on. No, no, no. Like regularly. What about the white dudes that put the crack in the night with this?

That's what I'm saying, the plug. Yeah, yeah. All the room on is shit. Carter, that's my guy, he's dope. He looks like a Carter. Carre, yeah. Yeah, yeah, cool. He got, he did some good, great work this season too.

Everybody did. Yeah, I like his character. He go crazy. A lot of people, it took, I think it took him a while to, like, really like the snowfall fans because he said, like, obviously he ain't said it like this. Yeah, but niggas know who he is. Niggas come up to him and say, I can't stand, he got hate. He got all the hate.

Oh, that's crazy. Yeah, he's playing the villain in the black man. Yeah, yeah. Pop-ass in the airport. Motherfucker slap my food up there. That's why I lit the shit back up. Hey, he probably should be sitting there. He should be niggins looking at her.

You're the boy on Snowfar, huh? Yeah, I play a character. You try this trip. Hey, excuse me, where are you from, though? I'm with my grandson. This birthday. Yeah. Yeah, because we all, we like,

well, we get nothing of love. He's like, man, I just, people hate me. But they're crazy how they told you weren't black enough, now you're on TV doing the blackest shit you could possibly be doing. Yeah. Yeah. Man, I fuck with this.

Yeah, I was just to love him off there. They just go to show they don't know it. See, that just gonna show you, that sometimes God'll put your blessing in the sky. Come on. He was 10 different characters. Come on. Come on.

In the sky. That means God, if wrap your blessing up and make it look like something else, it's like gift wrap. You gotta unwrap it. Yeah. It's a blessing. It looks like it but it is, but it is.

Sometimes it looks like it ain't what a real, what a real. That one thing better, you can't change what a real. You can believe what a rink, but what a real. It's just going to be what it is. Don't hear what it. Don't hear. Never think.

That it ain't what a rink. with it in it, what it is. Gotta wrap your blizzard up here, put your shit in the AutoZone box. You're thanking some breaks, but guess what it is it? Something else. What a thing, what it, what it, what it, what it is. Nah, that's hard, though, bro.

I just love how you flip that shit and the story made full circle. For sure. You really got the job when you won the monologue shit. True. You see how that shit happened? Yeah. If it weren't for them, both.

Plain them seeds. Yeah. Plain them seeds. That's all everything happened for a reason. Hell yeah. Leon, that's a black-ass name too. Here you go. That's coming from a nigga named Lewis now.

That might be a little spin-off. That ain't a little bit. And a nigga named Clayton. I ain't a judge. You get all these old-air names. Yeah, right. Carlos with a K, that ain't no OG. Shut the fuck up before I get Craig involved with this.

Hey, Thang, come there. That name got a name like a pastor in the 50s. Pastor Thad Wilson. Past the Fad. Yes. Oh, Pastor Thad. That's a little buddy. No, uh, shut out, stupid.

Hey, Lance, come to get this old nigg. Hey, do me in favor. Tap Larry on the show. Talk, you want to hear my story? Man, hold up, man. You know, the funny thing, that's all them niggas name for real. For real.

O-G names. Black people do got some O-G-ass names. They're name. Old as fuck, bro. Quality. Damn, quality name. He chat with it. We got to come.

Hey, Isaiah. You don't get no more biblical. I think it was your name why they probably think it was fully black. Isaiah, you know, it's always a mixed nigga name, Isaiah. Ain't Isaiah like Jesus' nephew? Isaiah is a mixed name.

I don't know. Jesus is a nephew. What dark-skinned nigga you know name, Isaiah? Isaiah Thomas. Isaiah Thomas? That nigga is Darkestead. Oh, gee, Isaid Thomas. Mr.

Isaiah Washington. Oh. This nigga don't know Isaiah. He hasn't been on Earth long enough to have him thinking yet. You are the first Isaiah. You're the man. You're the holy nigger name, Isaiah.

So what if I was going to be in the first world with that name? Okay, why should we fuck him up again? Niggins losing Isaiah? Right, right. All the other Isaiah? Right. I'm probably the first Isaiah John. Isaiah John.

Hell no. If you had a phone book right now, it'd be a page in him. Well, I ain't never met Isaiah John. I met Isaiah Johnson. You got to get up earlier to meet the old nigga named Isaiah. Yeah, I used to be a pastor. I joined the military. How did you do them in reverse?

I was saying people, then I said, hey, you know what I need to be in the National Guard? Them two weekends, a year was hell. Trust me. Steelcase leak at night. Hey man, this episode is sponsored in part by cocaine. The same can that's used to make crap. They didn't give us none, but we did use some of the money.

No, this is bullshit. This was the actual, this was prop cocaine from the, Prop cocaine from the set of Snowfall. Ain't no extras tried to steal none of you're a prop cocaine. Try to sell it. No, I told you, I said you were some snow. Come them niggins up there on a TV show, shlippers. Got two birds.

The corners is hard. What's up, Kat? When you see these white dancing, one with that L.A. accent, back to the British accent, that shit got to be crazy. At first it was. Like, the first time I, like, heard it was after the first table read. So I'm thinking he from, you know, America, like, he's talking an American accent. And as soon as we done, everybody, you know what I'm saying, saying they goodbyes, he whip out this London accent.

I'm like, what? You thought he was acting. Bro, I was confused. He was acting. But after that, like, he got me around all his U.K. homie, so it ain't nothing to me now. But when we used to do a tour, like we used to do a tour

so we were film the season and then go on like a nationwide tour, just hit all the major cities. And every time they will show the first episode, then we do a panel, as soon as he opened his mouth in every city, every black woman in them

theaters would scream. Like they'd never heard a UK accent before in their life. They probably ain't heard one in real life. He says, hello and they go crazy. I'm like, hello. Hello, bro. That's what we've got to start doing.

Hello, my man. What? Now we got the sauce. We got the game. Hello. But I heard it's like that for us over there. I gotta go. Oh, yeah, it's over.

Yeah. I got it. What you mean? She is out of that, girl. Who the hell there? It's crazy because he's crazy because he'd be trying to do the Atlanta accident. And every time he'd do, I'm about a, hey, do that, he's like, hey, goddamn. That's hilarious, man.

Yeah, it's funny. But, yeah, that accent crazy. That's crazy. Yeah. Got to go with my shit, appreciate it. For sure. You got to go. They're going to tell you, say something.

We'd be like to say something. They're going to tell you to say something. And you know what I'm going to say? Sashi. Biscuit. What? Sashi. Bees.

What is this? What is this? Bitch. Two sashi. Bees. They're gonna give you them cookies, though. Ain't they biscuits cookies? Yeah.

So they're gonna give you a sausage cookie. Yeah. Oh, swear. I don't like the way that sounds. So what they call the cookie? And I will not be. participating in no shit like that. If they call biscuits what, sausages?

No cookies. I don't get confused with me. Don't start this. Hold on, nigga. Don't start this. What they call the motherfuckacke's claim? Biscuit cookies. So what they call a cookie?

A biscuit. So what you mean is? I asked this nigga the same question. No, no. No, what's you mean to ask is, what do they call a biscuit then? What they have? Yeah, nigga. What they call a biscuit?

That's a scone. A scone. This nigga had, man. Why are you explaining shit than him? You know what this nigga's talking about? No. A scone? We got them over here, but they got them different over there.

It's to say it's like, yeah, it's a skunk. UK people, help me out. I'm right. This nigga ain't from the UK. He had to. There's a nigga with dress. He's from a zone in Atlanta, I'm like,

that's what happened when you had. You need another happy motherfucker to agree with you. You can be wrong, nigga, to be like, yeah, yeah. Damn show called them bitchy's gone. Or biscotti. A piece of biscuitary. Maybe they just say pastry, my name.

Strudel. Strudal. Strudle. Stoodle goes. By they don't say line. They say Q. Crumpets. Like what we call a line.

Oh, you gotta have money to have crumpus, nigga, everybody don't get to eat crumbens. And there ain't no trash can, it's the bin. The band. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a whore, it's a whew. Fucking shit, we live in Atlanta, man.

It's not music and murd. Music, man. They're not humans like hermit. Music. Man, fuck me. Herman. Music different, man. Now, I do have one theory that I believe.

I believe. I believe Memphis is Egypt, though. Think about it. They got pyramids. Everybody got goatee and tattoos. They speak their own language. And them niggins be gangster walking. That's in the hieroglyphics.

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