The 85 South Show with Karlous Miller, DC Young Fly and Chico Bean - J ANTHONY BROWN's NUTS! | 85 South Show Podcast

Episode Date: February 28, 2025

Comedy legend J ANTHONY BROWN sits down to share some amazing stories from his many years of fame! || 85 SOUTH App: www.channeleightyfive.com || Twitter/IG: @85SouthShow || Our Website: www.85southsho...w.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:21 Ooh, shit. I ain't got nothing for them for them. I ain't got nothing for the phone. I ain't got nothing for the phone. Yeah, you're notorious for that shit. He'll always say the wrong thing. Every city. I'm just wrong.
Starting point is 00:02:39 I just like the teachers for Dallas. I don't care. Yeah, you don't care. I don't care. I'm going to stick with them, right? I'm going to stick with them. I'm all right. We in Boston, he goes on stage and say, man, fuck the Patriots.
Starting point is 00:02:51 They had to smoke. They're ready to kill you. They're ready to kill you. I don't have a team. I'm in South Carolina. They have to shoot. I'm going to hit for the hate. I just hate the cowboys.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I don't have a kid. I don't have a kid. Everybody hate the Cowboys on the world. Because the Cowboy fans get so upset. It's the fan. When you hate them. You know, they take the shit personally. They lose.
Starting point is 00:03:14 You don't see them. You can't find them. They don't talk to you and then. They won't answer the fucking phone. Right. None of that shit. So that's, that's the part of the fucking. The other teams don't even matter.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Right. Yeah. The Lakers and the Cowboys, I'm here for the Right. You make the Laker, too? I... Fuck yeah!
Starting point is 00:03:29 And I lived in L.A. But I never said that shit unless I was in my club. I ain't take that shit on the street. Oh, okay, okay. I was like, you being in the arena saying that guy? Fuck no. Oh, okay. Nah, it looks, man.
Starting point is 00:03:41 Crazy. I just turn up. I don't give it down. I don't give it down. I guess that's how you have to be, though. But you know what? I kind of left that shit alone, man, because you know once the file and lost this Super Bowl. It's not that I don't support.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I've been watching from afar. I've been watching from afar. But I don't have to be in that fucking arena to hear y'all. You ain't got to remind that. No, no, it's because my buddy does it. I don't know who does a joke by his cousin or something like that is gay. And he's a Falcon fan. He's like, hey, we're going to win the game.
Starting point is 00:04:12 We can't get in the ass, bitches. And then at the halftime, he called him up, man, fuck you, nigga. Well, the nigga came out of that. Okay. Get it. The nigga came. Don't do that. Don't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:27 Damn. Don't do that. Yeah. Sometimes it did. Sometimes it did. Sometimes it did. And I cried over that game too. It did.
Starting point is 00:04:36 It upset you that man. It put me up. I literally was in the car and I, like, 3-10. You know, like, one 10, you try to blame it like on the wind. The second till, you're like, man, my alice. That third 10, I'm like, man, this shit real, man. This shit fault. Well, I mean, in the last two years, I really became a sports fan because up into that,
Starting point is 00:04:54 I didn't know shit about sports I had a set phrase that I could say that would get me in a sports conversation and this goes out to anybody who don't know shit about sports you got to have something that to get you in the conversation
Starting point is 00:05:07 if you don't know shit so here was my who was my phrase everybody talked what I do he ran the phone for it and I don't know what fucking time so all you got to do is what about that big white boy from Kansas
Starting point is 00:05:19 is always always a big white boy And everybody, you just called me. I'm like, what about it? Yeah. I think I know you're talking. Yeah, then you're in.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Right. So, but now I watch it. I love it. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it. Yeah, I love it. Oh, G in the building, man. Let me tell you something.
Starting point is 00:05:39 I've been doing, I'm about going on 11 years, me doing stand-up professionally. That's great, man. Only stay. Well, you know, it takes, they say it take 10 years. It takes, it take 10. But when I was watching it as a kid, like, we, I'm talking about like a kid,
Starting point is 00:05:54 When Comic View used to come on, and you used to come on with your suits and shit. Like, it takes a real comedian to host amongst other great comedians and keep that crowd going. Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, your set when you was on Comedy View is one of my favorite ones, especially, especially when it hosted when it comes to, like, Ricky Smiley, Arnette J, Bruce, Bruce. Y'all did, y'all did that. Y'all hear, that shit down. It was so much fun, you know, to do that. And, but I think the big start for me was Atlanta. I got my, I got my break in Atlanta, right?
Starting point is 00:06:29 Yeah, there was a club. Yeah, Atlanta was, I caught the bus from Columbia, South Carolina to come to Atlanta. And then, at that time, I'm staying in the YMCA, because the rooms were like maybe $12 a week or some shit like that. Hey, I get a cab. And the motherfucker drive me all around Atlanta, right? $25. I'm like, I paid a guy $20. And I walk out in a fucking hotel.
Starting point is 00:06:56 The bus station right across the goddamn street, man. So I didn't know. So I didn't know. So I figured I'd already had a degree in tailoring. I started out as a tailor to be, I'm going to be a designer. I'm going to make clothes and stuff like that. But I always loved comedy. So they had this place called Mr. V Figure 8.
Starting point is 00:07:15 I know y'all probably nobody. You know what you have somebody. And they had this show called. It was called a gong show. So I go one night. to perform. Now, I didn't get gone, and the reason I didn't get gone, because I wasn't up that long enough. Right. I did one joke. Right. Got about that. All right. Hit him on Twitter. Yeah. Yeah. How you're moving on? And so he gave me a job as a host, and being the host, allow me to work on my craft
Starting point is 00:07:44 every day. So by the time I went to L.A. or by the time I went on the road, I was ready, you know. And that's the difference in terms of what comedy is today. First of all, the game doesn't change. The game is changed. The internet doesn't change the fucking game. The rules still apply, though. Yeah. The rules still apply.
Starting point is 00:08:00 The rules still apply. The rules still apply. The rules still apply. The rules still apply. That ain't not to sound. The game has changed in terms of you can do this for him, what you're doing, and reach a a million motherfuckers where you probably never perform in front of a million motherfuckers. Right.
Starting point is 00:08:11 And so when I hear people talking about, well, they just internet comics and they don't have a show. Well, they got a crowd. You don't. And who don't? fuck of these people going around well, they didn't pay their dudes. Who the fuck is collecting these dudes that people talk about? They dudes that mean the ground asses about. That's a odd.
Starting point is 00:08:30 Yeah, but what are the dudes? Yeah, because it's a different avenue now. You know what I mean? I mean, if you are a real student of the game, there are some dudes that you had, when they mean, like, sweat, you know what I'm saying, time, dedication. But you don't have to pay them. No, no, no. Y'all talk about monetary game.
Starting point is 00:08:49 Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Like, and they never really get out there and do the stand-up thing, but they still got crowd coming out. You know what I'm saying? Some people don't respect it like motherfuckers. I mean, but, you see, the older crowd just got to understand they're molding their crowd when they come out
Starting point is 00:09:05 because the people that come out ain't, like, word of them out. They kind of fans of them already on social media. So they kind of expect a little bit of what they see on social media. So if he give us something extra, that just add to the people. I went. You went. But if he already give us something
Starting point is 00:09:23 that we didn't see before. We didn't want to see it live. Sometimes you do a show, and if you don't do the shit they seem, they're upset. Now. That isn't what I saw. That ain't what I want.
Starting point is 00:09:33 You might have been all right in this era, though. Because all you had to do is, watch out. Why that? You're all over the. Oh, gee, you could. Yeah. But no, I don't think, I think the dudes are just, you know, just the sweat and the time,
Starting point is 00:09:48 especially when, like, When y'all had to be labeled a comedian, that's kind of like a fraternity stamp because y'all technically did had to go through a lot to even be called a comedian. You might be funny, but you ain't no comedian. Right. You see what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:10:04 You might have not said something funny before, but you ain't no comedian. To be labeled a comedian is it's an honor. It's an honor, game. Do you know what that honor is? You got to know what that honor is, shaw. You can't cheat it, you can't cheat it. And you were that comedian
Starting point is 00:10:20 for us because a lot of us rode to school with you well you had no choice because your mom's what I'm saying but you would be the shit sitting the back to you're going to listen to you turn up yeah but you would be the reason that I'd be like oh what he's going to say today what you're going to say you know what I'm saying you know what I'm saying because we're right and I'm not bragging when the time during the show was on the end there was no show better than what we did not one well we wouldn't have it's your word had so many elements of the show. It's your world. Melvin.
Starting point is 00:10:53 Come on. Come on. George Wallace, when his fucking ass, would come on the show. Tavis Smiley. Mr. Dupree. So the elements of the show was so many. And it was that you listen, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:09 It was just a great show. There was nothing that could beat us. Now, Steve was a bigger show. But I think the time during the show was better. I'm turning... So, man. I know you're stuck in traffic, boy. Oh, how are you on fucking traffic?
Starting point is 00:11:27 He's good. So, man, how did y'all build your fan base back in the day, like, when there wasn't no internet, wasn't no apps to get on? Like, how do you get your tickets to- Your comedy clubs that already existed. By the time I got into comedy, there was, there was the improv. There was, there was always a club. and had some sort of funny-ass name, like he-h-h-hahs. Yo, your balls, bones, bones, some shit like that, you know.
Starting point is 00:11:57 And they already had an audience because white comics have been working for years in these clubs. Like when I went to New York, I was surprised the size of the audience that, you know, they were already there. So you had to learn how to navigate what you were doing from the South as a black comedian into a white club. So by the time you switch over to all black clubs, all you know is how to relate to white people. So that shit, they will let you know right away that... That shit ain't funny.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And the worst thing for a comedian is you're going to learn if you get booed. You're going to learn if you get booed. You're going to learn if you have a bad set. And what you might do here might not work that night, but then you go someplace up the next night, the shit of work. But in reality, if we're all comedians, the funniest thing for a comedian,
Starting point is 00:12:49 is to watch another motherfucker bomb. There's nothing, there's nothing else funny. I'd be like, I'd be like, damn, man. You're gonna go dick that boy, man. Mm-mm. You never know when you're going. You never can't move, man. You can't move, man.
Starting point is 00:13:04 It's like, fight it, fight it. Stop letting the crowd talk to you, man. What's you get in that? What's your motherfucker? There ain't no movement. They just get out of it. There's rules to bombing. The certain words that come out, the bombers now.
Starting point is 00:13:17 What are they say? That crazy. That crazy. Y'all crazy. So what y'all want to talk about? Right. Oh. And the last one is, give it up.
Starting point is 00:13:29 Yeah. Give it up. Give it up for the latest. On the last one is, y'all don't get it. No, we got it. Oh, no. We heard. You didn't work on.
Starting point is 00:13:38 No, no. Okay. The best should be where a motherfucker was doing all right. And they should have got the fuck off. Yeah. They got that laugh. Then he started chasing it. And then you just didn't get to talk about.
Starting point is 00:13:52 You're like, man. You got a little motivation. Don't turn their laugh or do it. It'll make them stain. Yeah, I've seen Ralphie May. He did a time during the cruise, and he was doing good. And somehow, I don't know, in the back of his mind, and he said, you niggas. And when he said that.
Starting point is 00:14:10 What? On the top, joining a cruise? On the cruise. Ralphie Mae, man, he did recipe, but I don't know how I feel now. And now he don't, if you ever get booed on the boat, you're all stuck on the muffling. Yeah. Yeah. He got to see the people.
Starting point is 00:14:27 You got to see the people. You know, he's eating like two, three o'clock in the morning because he don't want to face nobody. Ain't go into the parking lot. I said, look, man, don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. Come back the next night and do it again. Right. Do it again.
Starting point is 00:14:43 They booed him again. Because he said, you niggins. You niggins. Those are you. Was he bombing and just said the shit? I think it... I don't know what the fuck happened to him, man. But he got booed twice.
Starting point is 00:14:55 He just wanted to try. He just wanted to see if he could do it. What's the white comics who are so crossed over into a black audience, they think it's almost that they can say anything. Yeah. Then there's a certain amount of shit you can say, but then there's some shit you can't say. That's why. And they'll let you know.
Starting point is 00:15:09 Yeah. What? That's crazy. He's lucky. He just got booed. Yeah, he's looking at him. On the show. There's a girl.
Starting point is 00:15:16 All the folks got to see these people again. Man, more people on vacation drunk than a song bitch. You see the show. Man. When I was hosting throwbacks, I seen this dude, I can't even say he was a comedian. He bombed so bad that this nigga started requesting people. Certain people listen to his joke. I'm talking to the grown people.
Starting point is 00:15:38 We're all the adults. To y'all, I'm only talking to the grown people. Hey, you ain't grown, they're talking to it. Man, the grown people was booing shit out of them, too. That's all this in here, man. If you've ever been booed or had a bad set, it's worse than a death in your family, man. You feel that shit. Because it's like, it seemed like the drive home, it's like two days.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Oh, my God. That should have made you not want to do that shit no more. You're like, man, they ain't respecting this shit, me. You're like, man. You turn it to a New York man. New York. They can do that shit. They can do that shit.
Starting point is 00:16:18 I would like to see them trapped, hey. And they, it no matter how bad you, Bob, you're gonna get one motherfucker, they go. Man, I thought you were funny myself. Well, why you ain't laughed? That ain't bad shit. That'll keep you going. Hey, fool, that shit. Oh, when they tell everybody around you.
Starting point is 00:16:38 This the soul crusher right here. Hey, bro. Keep doing your thing. He doing your thing. Keep you doing it. No, how about this? Man, fuck them, niggas. Keep doing your thing, man.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Man, fuck them. Nick, congratulations around you. Hey, boy. You were the funny, but the other niggas. You're like, I'm all the niggas right here, man. Hey, you didn't talk to you, boy. And you were just up there saying anything. I've seen you before you were funny.
Starting point is 00:17:07 I don't know what happened. Hey, you get you a nigga that's in the crowd that thing you funny. He's going to let you know, boy. What the fuck you were doing? Nicky, you bomb motherfuckers will give you advice and shit. Yeah. Yeah. You need a suit.
Starting point is 00:17:18 You need to wear a suit. And you need to work that stage. Yeah, yeah. You go left and right. See, you stay right now. You're holding the mic wrong. See, people on the left side, I'm laughing. You put the mic on your mouth.
Starting point is 00:17:28 You put the mic on your mouth. Oh, yeah, yeah. I was laughing, okay. Like that, yeah. Yeah, yeah. You do your shit. Hey. You do your shit.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Hey, the worst people with a motherfucker give you advice, and then they go up there and bomb. What about it's just bad to you? Waxed in you! When I first got here, I had a nigger brain me to it. He's somebody, he's a comedian. I met him on the junk. He's going around telling people, he do this and he do that.
Starting point is 00:17:54 I go to uptime with this nigger when do up hosting it. He bombed. So I'm thinking I'm up next. They're going to boo my ass too, because this nigga, I know he just amassed. Man, I want to have to have to hang out of this nigger. No. You're telling everybody this shit.
Starting point is 00:18:09 They booed your ass. Thanks to host. I host a whole lot of rooms. I used to put motherfuckers up because I knew they was going to bomb for how long. And then you got another five or 20 minutes. You want to see, you want to see how long they're going to do. Sometimes you know, now they're going to go first. They're going to, these motherfuckers are going to have to perform to some people get there.
Starting point is 00:18:27 But sometimes you need it. But the less people that's in there, the less you're going to bomb. But if you got back to bad bombers, they're going to come out. The last bomb will come out of black. Brut, it won't you eat them. Oh yeah. They're going to get together. They're going to unite.
Starting point is 00:18:39 You did. Don't go. It's dumb. Look, I have both of a bomb, niggum. You got that they don't know. They got that motivated each other. And you're good. Ain't no way all of us bombed.
Starting point is 00:18:48 But we fight. That of all this shit is watching two motherfuckers who bombed argue with each other. You bombed too, but you bombed. You bombed harder than me. And they laughed at that dead. Hey, I had them to the head. Right. I had them to the head.
Starting point is 00:19:02 They started to fight before. At the bomb fight. That started a fight between two comedians. At a bomb fight. When I won't fight at a ball fight. When I'm going to fight. tell you. The biggest fucking fights I ever had in the club was between comedians.
Starting point is 00:19:18 Yeah. Not customer, man. We got to tell. For the people that don't know, you own the J-spite for how long? Hold on. Watch this. Hey, welcome back today for ourself show. Come on, man.
Starting point is 00:19:28 Come on, man. Let's go. That's how you do. Let's go. That's how you do it. Let's go. We got a legend in here with us today, man. And we ain't even going to hold you because this is a thousand questions.
Starting point is 00:19:39 We got to ask none other. then Mr. J. Anthony Brown. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. With the 85 South show. Motherfucking O.
Starting point is 00:19:49 Yeah, man. Oh, D. Oh, D. I'm an O. Damn. No, you got your kids, you know. I'm an O. Well, you took a Mac.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah. I did. But the OJ. You're trying to get signed to Motown and shit. I'm trying to get a deal. I'm going on right now. First of all, welcome. Welcome.
Starting point is 00:20:11 Welcome to the 85. Yeah, man. George and Meyer was here, but I really didn't want to be on with George, so. This is great. This is really good. Y'all got a little hate relationship. You got that one of water. Yeah, absolutely.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Oh, G, you were real, OG. You bought your office with you. Yeah, I bought some stuff for y'all, man. I bought gifts. Oh, man. I got lots of gifts. Did they bring you out anything? You can the person that bought a briefcase.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We brought you. We got one for you. Everybody got an old lady. Yeah. I know you got a girl that's hot. A hot. A hot old lady. Okay.
Starting point is 00:20:42 And you got about 100 flavors of hot sauce, none of shit. Yeah, I only about two. I got my own wine. Mm-hmm. That him on the goddamn man. Got everything. Got my wine. What?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Got my wine. What? Trunker than a motherfucker. What? That's what it is. That's what it is. You sell tonics and everything. I got my hot sauce.
Starting point is 00:21:04 There you go. I knew you had some hot sauce. He got about a hundred flavors. You go. East and pepper. Now, my last and not least is my nuts. Uh, I'm not, I'm, I'm, no. Don't be like that.
Starting point is 00:21:16 I ain't even, no, I'm not even, no. Don't be like that, man, I'm not even like that, man. I'm not even like, I'm trying to move some nuts. No, man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, fuck that. No, y'all, y'all, y'all took the fan and they shit. Now, I pull out the nuts, no. No.
Starting point is 00:21:37 He's gonna open them talking about, let me talk something in your mouth. No, I'm going to give up the hot sauce. I'm going to drink from the nuts. I got, I got, I got, you can drink with the nuts. You can pick what you want. I got hot nuts. I got sweet nuts. Let me get some knot nuts.
Starting point is 00:21:55 And last, you got no, can't believe it's not nuts. Most important, salty nuts. Okay. Okay. Hey, you've been hustling, man. You've been a hustling. Oh, that t-shirts for y'all. You're really?
Starting point is 00:22:09 Because you put your face on there. Yeah, here you go. Okay. There you go. Here you go. If I remember correctly, you had a line of ties too, right? I had no, I had my own line of suits. That's right.
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah, because I was going to be a designer. That's crazy. I remember him at K&G. Yeah, I had them there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's my word.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Hey. Hey. It's all on display. I'm nervous. Uh-huh. Okay, get you on. Okay. You drew that?
Starting point is 00:22:37 I drew that. Yeah. If it's too big, It's just washing. It is... Watching hot water. Watch the hot water to be a hand puppet. I think I, did I give out all the t-shirts?
Starting point is 00:22:49 That nigga, stupid hair. Yeah. Yeah, I gave my own t-shirts. Is it hot? Oh, no, that wasn't hot. That's just, that's really good. Really, really good. Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebeney.
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Starting point is 00:26:42 Problem. My oldest daughter, her first day in ninth grade, and I called to ask how I was going. She was like, oh, dad, all they were doing was talking about your thing in class. I ruined my baby's first day of high school. And slumflower. What turns me on is when a man sends me money. Like, I feel the moisture between my legs when a man sends me money.
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Starting point is 00:27:29 they would suggest that you come back. So if you treat the help right, they say, why don't you bring back such and such? So I found this company in Florida that would make, take, you know, your recipes or whatever you want to, and then making your own labels called private labeling, you know, which I always encourage anybody to do. If you're doing T-shirts or whatever, you can put your name on anything, hot sauce, chicken, whatever. It's called private labeling. So you just look for what it is you want to sell, and you find a company that will do private labeling, and they'll put your name on it, and they'll make it for you, and either you send it out yourself.
Starting point is 00:28:02 So I found this hot sauce company. South Sam and they made me about four flavors but the first one was um it's called hotter than a mofo and it's really fucking hot I mean I didn't even bring that one that was really hot so we would go to these hot sauce shows a lot of people don't know because they have hot sauce shows it'd be four 5,000 people there easily tasting it's tap on it as a hot sauce convention as a hot sauce convention up actually yeah but they eat it and like it's got some It'll burn your ass, but they be like, yeah, it's got some flight.
Starting point is 00:28:41 So I went to the hot sauce show, and I, nobody came to my table. Nobody came to my table. And so I said, fucking, I got my buddy to make this costume for me. Mofo man. The Mofo man. The next year, I sold so much fucking hot sauce, man, because everybody wanted to take a picture. And that's what selling is. It's pretty much.
Starting point is 00:29:02 So you went out there with the suit on? With that fucking shoot on music. I'm gonna make y'all motherfuck about my house off. Hey, man, get off his nuts. Get off. Yeah, hold my nuts right, man. I never thought you would pass me another nigga, man? Turn my nuts around so they can't eat a label, man.
Starting point is 00:29:18 Down, I don't need one second. Put them nuts in your line. And I'm over here, like in him. I'm already eating him and him. Don't hear him talking crazy? Tell them put some nuts in them. What did you know with that, man? I have some em in him.
Starting point is 00:29:31 Oh, okay. Oh, okay. So what, this here right here? That's, uh, that's my wine. Put that house on the. That's my one. Who? You.
Starting point is 00:29:41 What? You're not fin a tic-tok challenge. How long you've been doing, common? I started. The first time I went on stage, first time I ever went on stage, I bombed so fucking bad. What? First time I went on stage, I was 18 years old.
Starting point is 00:29:56 My next birthday, I'd be 73. Hey! Come on, we have to have to go ahead. Talk your child, talk your child. But the game, it's changed so much. About 55 years? Yes, sir. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:11 In the game, 55. Yeah, I mean, it's been great for me. I mean, I've been blessed. I wrote on, I, I wrote on Arsenio Hall, I wrote for Steve Harvey, I wrote for Sinbad, I wrote for George, I wrote on Robert Townsend's show. That's five. But I mean, even terms with Steve, Steve and I,
Starting point is 00:30:31 we met each other in Lafayette, Louisiana. Neither one of us was doing shit. So we just hooked up and became friends. He gets his show, and he stood up for me. He really did. He said it was another guy by the name of Rashon McDonald. I don't know if you heard of the name. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:30:46 You know, Rashon. And so Steve, we in the office and Steve said, I'm going to do the show. The show was called me and the boys. He said, I'm going to do the show. But if you don't take these two guys, then I'm not going to do the show. And he didn't have to do that. Now, he had fired me three times, but fuck that. He gave me.
Starting point is 00:31:03 He gave me a shot as a writer on a show, and that was the big move for us. That was, I mean, that changed the game. To write, because I'd already been writing jokes for Arsenio, but to write as a writer on the show, that changed the game. And that was because of Steve. Yeah, yeah. He did us all a solid, man, so. Shout out to Steve.
Starting point is 00:31:22 So how did you transition, like you said, you tell you your first 15 men, it was white crowd, and then now you start to see the black clubs. How did you transition? It was a, it was a, it was a, it was a, rough transition. It was a lot. I would go to the comedy act theater and it'd be
Starting point is 00:31:39 an all black audience and I would use the phrase, how you guys doing? And they're like, nigga, who the fuck are you calling you guys? Right. It was a learning process. It was a learning process. They were like, disrespect me.
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah, yeah. As a black comedian, you'll see all black audiences now. What you didn't see when I was starting to. Call me the worst. You did not see, yeah. So I had to learn how to do it. So how that comic view? Because everybody just can't get that job, that hosting gig.
Starting point is 00:32:11 I did take her through the process when it was like, it wasn't an audition, did they call your phone? Ms. Kathy Hughes, who was in charge of Comic View, would come on the Tom Jonas show. And I asked her, they're looking for a host because they would change hosts each season. And so that's how I got the job. A lot of times I got shit was luck Or being in the right place at the right time The way I got on the Arsenio Hall show Was Arsenio at that time had two writers
Starting point is 00:32:41 You only had two writers One by the name of Paul playing Barry, I can't remember his name But I'm in Hollywood He said, man, come over for lunch We're going to write the monologue And then we can go to lunch So they're writing the jokes and shit
Starting point is 00:32:53 And you know, you hear something funny You yell, oh, won't you say this? And he's like, can I use that? I'm like, yeah, put it in. So Paul says, you can do this. I'm like, man, I can't be doing right. I can't spell and I can't fucking type. So he said, well, I'll type your jokes up for you.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And I'll send him to Arsenio. So I wrote some jokes and sent him to Arsenio. And I'm in Kentucky. And Paul caused me on the phone. He says, Arsenio's going to do your joke tonight. I'm like, what? So he did the joke. Now, I'm going to tell you the joke.
Starting point is 00:33:21 Trust me, this is 20 years ago. So the shit might not be funny now. Right, right. Okay, so prepare yourself. Okay. Don't be like, that's the fucking joke. Okay. Why's that now?
Starting point is 00:33:33 The joke was Latoya Jackson did a spread in Playboy magazine. So I wrote a joke where Arsenio says Y'all heard about Latonia Jackson to spread in a Playboy magazine to be popular.
Starting point is 00:33:49 And Arsenio says, I want to be popular too, but I don't be butt-ass neckin' owner Harley Davidson. Okay, back then that was funny as fun. Right, right now, I feel the room. I was in the room like... When I told y'all before I said it, that it wasn't going to be shit. The other joke I ruled.
Starting point is 00:34:12 Because I remember the Latoya spread. She was naked on the Harley. It was a spread. It was spread across the old page. You wouldn't see no ass and titty in the magazine. Yes, you were. Yes, you were. No, I'm not saying like you wasn't, but I'm like, it was like, it was fascinating me.
Starting point is 00:34:29 That's how it wasn't. That was the Instagram. Yeah. The magazine was the Instagram. You had to search for it back then. That what I'm saying? Yeah. Now it's on your phone.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Ass is on your phone. Oh, man. Yeah. No, you didn't have to do that. They had ass magazines where they didn't even put no articles. It was just ass. My dad, a pastor. You had a really a pastor.
Starting point is 00:34:49 Yeah, yeah. He had a bit in a stupid easy spot behind the bed. He had a hidden under the hidden blind. I was like, I was like, oh what this is back here? I looked. I was like, man. Daddy! He's old nigga, he's talking about what you in here rambling for?
Starting point is 00:35:05 I like, I was like, nah. I was like, you're rambling. I was like, you're rambling. Did you mind, nobody? Hell, la. My first Playboy magazine were China from, on WWL, the wrestling. Oh, my dad. My dad.
Starting point is 00:35:22 My dad was dude. You got the strongest bitch. That's what I was like, China? Hey, I can't. He gave me any one for you. He's like a bitch. You put him in a head now. I'm like, there you go.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I just can't forget. That's the first one he made. He was like, I got some for you, son. There was a more naked bitch's in there, though. It wasn't just much stronger. He played a boy. Yeah. There's a lot of more punses, sir.
Starting point is 00:35:47 All right now. You didn't got to do movies, TV, radio, internet. What's your favorite? Cruises. What's your favorite shit out of all the... The radio. Yeah. The radio.
Starting point is 00:35:59 The fucking radio, man. Radio, I mean, when I did the show with Tom Joyner, I was living in L.A. So that meant the show came on at 6 o'clock. Tom was living in Dallas. I'm in L.A. That means I got to be in my seat at 3 o'clock in the morning. Right. 3 o'clock in the morning, and you got to be wide open.
Starting point is 00:36:18 Now, the other thing is a lot of comics who do stand-up, they can't do radio. They just, once that mic cut some, because you got to know, radio is like, We're going to commercial in a minute, motherfuckers, what you got to say. You got to get in and get out. And so by doing that show, it made me really good on the show. Radio's the best. There's nothing like radio.
Starting point is 00:36:40 Nothing like. But this is a form of radio. You can do and say whatever it is you want. Just change the game. The internet change the game. You can do this in your home. You don't need a studio to okay for you to get out and meet the masses anymore. Right. Yeah, so, yeah, radio for me is the best.
Starting point is 00:36:58 Build your audience, build your authentic audience with your voice. That's why we're here. Where we're fucking here, man. We're here, man. You know, another guy that's here. We're here. I'm telling you. Now, we appreciate, you know, every time we had like icons and legends, man,
Starting point is 00:37:14 we appreciate everything you did in the game, man. And that what paying dudes is when we recognize people that did it before us. Like, we understand the social media. We understand social media. I got to give you flowers. We understand the social media is here, so we got to use that to our advantage. But once you're labeled a comedian, which is earned, you have to earn it. That shit's not giving.
Starting point is 00:37:38 Right. You just can't be like, I'm a comedian. That shit was, that shit was labeled on me. You're a comedian. I was like, oh, I don't know what this is. I didn't know what it was. Oh, you didn't. It was my calling, but before I had them say, I accept it, I got to go work for it.
Starting point is 00:37:53 Right. Once I worked for it, I would like. and me get that. Yeah. Because now I see the, I see the pace, but it's fun and the artwork. So everything you've done, it helps. You know what I'm saying? Broke down barriers for guys like me.
Starting point is 00:38:08 That was the thing when I first started, when I would move to L.A., you know, when you, and the same thing everybody probably has that. You meet somebody who's been in the game longer than you. You don't want money from, well, maybe you might want some money from the motherfucker. But you just want a friend or somebody to say, hey, I did this, and I did it like that and that's the knowledge in terms of the game
Starting point is 00:38:29 that will help you a lot but sometimes you're not going to get that until other comedians accept you as being funny now they might not say shit to you right you go up and be funny
Starting point is 00:38:39 now you're in the click right but if you ain't funny they ain't fucking with your head you're not saying nothing to you you ain't in the click you ain't in the click you say that you go on stage and improve yourself
Starting point is 00:38:51 and rip that motherfucker up and I was bomb so I would like to play. I remember I did a show at Rodney Dangerfields in New York. I was going to tape a TV show the next day. So I go up and the guy said, we're going to put you on the first show. So I'll go on the first show.
Starting point is 00:39:07 I bombed. I mean, really fucking bomb. God damn. I mean, like, I even just thinking about this shit right now. That shit hurts. It comes back. So he said, well, maybe you shouldn't go up first. You should go on the second show.
Starting point is 00:39:22 You should be up second. Right, right. So I'll go up second. I bomb again. You said, well, I think what you do is just stronger than what everybody else. You need to close the show. God damn!
Starting point is 00:39:34 I bombed again, man. God, damn. But those three bombs, by the time I did the TV show, I was ready. Because I already bombed three times. I ain't going to bomb four fucking die. But it makes you a comedian. Right.
Starting point is 00:39:47 That bombing makes you, you know, it's a hurting feeling. He got to bring that a fight. You got to bring that dog. You got to be a dog, though. You got to see you got to know that that's capable. It's possible. Yeah. So you got to go out there and be like on your shit.
Starting point is 00:40:00 Yeah, you can't have to worry about that shit. That drive home after a bomb, man. It was like booed bomb or the... Well, what it was was, it was prom night. A bunch of white kids. It was all prom night. I can see these motherfuckers now, man. Prong?
Starting point is 00:40:15 That ain't real. You fucked their prom. You fucked their prom. You was up there supervisors, the damn white kids. Why don't they go? They think they'll see all white comedians. They think they don't see my ass. Who is this guy?
Starting point is 00:40:33 Some people yelled at it. Everybody cry out of it. I worked for, I did a show called, you know, it goes out, relax, do it, every one, you know, that's something. So they put me on the show. I got heckles so bad by these kids who were sitting in the front. The way they were heckling me was, every time I would say a word, these motherfuckers were repeated, right?
Starting point is 00:40:55 So I'm like, yeah, we're going to the store. You ever go to the store? Oh, shit. That's aggravated. You want to hear them all. I hate myself. I hate myself. Yeah, another day I was in the store.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Another day I was in the store and the motherfucker on the side going to stretch, man. The group ain't ready. I mean, stretch. Yeah, but a bad show and a bad experience make you better. It makes you better. Yeah, you gotta have them nights, man. Especially if you ain't talking about quitting. You gotta get them up.
Starting point is 00:41:28 You ain't got no choice. You're like, I know, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. But sometimes it's me. It's all right yet. You gotta know how to get them in shit. How do you know how to get them in check? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Sometimes you can't, sometimes it ain't, the crowd ain't shit as a group. Yeah. They don't know how to crowd right. Right. They don't even how to be cry. Remember, Dave, remember. Y'all, y'all, like, the crowd ain't shit. But remember, remember when you was coming to me,
Starting point is 00:41:57 the black people wasn't even coming to come to clue. It's still like that now. Motherfucking, they still, ain't even laugh for real. Like, this is your first time laughing with people. You ain't never laughed. With no box. Especially if there's a dude in the audience with his lady. Right.
Starting point is 00:42:12 You say some shit about women, and he got to look at her to see if he can laugh. Right. Niggum be a man. The shit's funny. I ain't talking about her. I'm talking about other women, not her. You can laugh. You can fucking laugh.
Starting point is 00:42:23 It's fun figuring it out. It is. It's just fun figuring like, fuck this shit. Because I don't know strange. They'd be acting like they're going to fuck. They were like, ha, ha, ha, ha. I've learned for comedy, you know, and I will tell anybody, if you got a motherfucking noise and he ain't laughing,
Starting point is 00:42:38 don't fuck with him, don't look at him, don't pay him or her, no attention. The rest of the crowd are having a good time. Sometimes that person is just going through some bad, And you just make an actor to take that the wrong thing. Don't even look at that, motherfucker, man. And you know, you never know. He might be won a fight or some shit.
Starting point is 00:42:59 I've been in some fights, you know, man. I haven't come on stage. He ain't loo, no, God. Yeah, I got my ass beat. God, damn. You're going to your friend. Oh, you know, security. I didn't get a fight.
Starting point is 00:43:11 The other comedians weren't around? No, they would, let me tell you what happens. So I'm working and I'm bombing. I'm not, I'm not doing it. good at all. I'm the headlining. It is not, it is not going well.
Starting point is 00:43:27 It is not going well. And the white dude in the front said, bring out the other comedian while I'm on stage. Man, man, fuck you. So, no, fuck you. Fucking talk. We got to go.
Starting point is 00:43:42 We got to go back. So I get pulled off the stage and they bring the motherfucker back up. He'd kill again. I'm like, God, damn. They had more shit. And I worked in
Starting point is 00:43:56 Oklahoma one time. And I think I said A lady goes to the restroom. That's what the one. A lady goes to the restaurant. And so, you know, if somebody's going to rest, you just fuck with them. And the place, you know, back in the day,
Starting point is 00:44:10 the comedy club, you just lit the stage. You really didn't light up the audience. Like, y'all liked the audience. You know, you can see the audience. So you don't like the stage. You just light the stage. So I'm on stage, I'm fucking with her, y'all. And she went to the restroom, and then I hear this whizzing all, like,
Starting point is 00:44:25 this bitch, dude, she threw a roll of wet toilet paper and hit me in the motherfucking head, right? She hit me in the goddamn head. I didn't mean you say, bitch, but she hit me in the motherfucker head. The audience cracked the fuck up, right? You know, I walk the stage, I'm like, I'm leaving. The dude said, if you leave, you ain't getting your money. Oh, dang on the goddamn shit.
Starting point is 00:44:49 I mean, what you're saying? Yeah. I went back up that big deal, man. You know what you're saying to him? You remember what you're saying to him? No, I made fun of her going to the restroom. Yeah. Oh, it's going to see where the first time.
Starting point is 00:45:07 Yeah. You know, that shit don't drop. It's a day. When you do a comedy, you're young, you know, my rule is whoever, if somebody big walked in my club, right, they go out. up. Well, I'm supposed to go next. No, motherfucker. Eddie Murphy just walked in
Starting point is 00:45:23 the room. We ain't going to wait for you, get out the fucking state. If you want to go up, he's going up. So I'm working in Chicago. Eddie Murphy and Paul Mooney came in the club. Eddie did our, Paul did like maybe 40 minutes, and now I got to go finish my fucking show. But
Starting point is 00:45:38 I'm like, y'all already saw some shit. Y'all didn't pay for us, so I'm going to do like 20 minutes to get the fuck out of here. So they was happy. I know. That was a good time. Yeah, yeah. Eddie did an hour? Eddie did by the hour.
Starting point is 00:45:52 What he was this? Huh? What you was this? I don't remember, man. I don't remember some shit happened yesterday, so. What's what? I'm living life. Damn.
Starting point is 00:46:02 So what comedian like? Who you like? Who you like? Who you like? I knew. And much as I talk about George, George is a, George is a straight comedian. Right.
Starting point is 00:46:14 A master. He writes all the time. He writes constantly. Myra J is the same place. They write all the time. time. I love Cat, but then Don D.C., who's the one, Corey Hockham? Man, that motherfucker will say some shit. Like, it makes you like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:46:32 Right, right, yeah. He's the same. I love Cat, I love to watch Cat. Yeah, Cat Williams is funny. In the Samoa, Cheryl Underwood, yeah. Like I said, Myra. Koko, yeah. That's your squad right now.
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Starting point is 00:50:58 You actually sent it? Listen to the Good Mom's Bad Choices podcast every Wednesday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. The I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you go to find your podcast. I was like one of them coming you like crazy stories like one of like our uproar I'm trying to think I remember I remember when I first time did this I did comment you and you had a hairstyle that would do your makeup and shit like that so he was gay he was gay but I had a bodyguard quote on I don't know why I had body card and shit I'm right you're right there the bodyguard didn't like the gay guy
Starting point is 00:51:39 So he told the gay guy that Mr. Brown didn't want you doing his makeup or didn't want you around him. So I see the dude in the hall, he, like, avoid me. I'm like, what the fuck going on? He said, well, I got to do the voice. I got to do the boy and tell the fucking story, man. He said that you didn't want me to do your makeup. I'm like, what the fuck said that? You said, your body guy.
Starting point is 00:52:05 Like, man, fuck that. Do my makeup. So that, to me, that was that crazy. in terms of back then which the shit is still going on now right yeah so I think that was good yeah yeah but I remember
Starting point is 00:52:17 um um what's the name would always say that I'm a joke I'm a stupid that was the wildest shit that happened all these seasons are yeah man he ain't firing to get makeup artists
Starting point is 00:52:32 so you better get your ass over here make me free you want an exce you want to be excited You know what you have some shit? He picked a dog. You're throwing a tale. Yeah, I had to get makeup for all this thing.
Starting point is 00:52:45 I ain't shared with y'all. My bodyguard said, Jay don't like makeup. Now I'm on TV. Wayne face to this box. That's why I'm too named for Brown. If you watch the whole season, I came up with my own colors, Jay Anthony Brown.
Starting point is 00:53:08 said the goddamn thing. I'm listening! You've been doing comedy, 50 years. You might fucking around and slip up and say this shit I need to hear. I'm analyzing everything. That's good. Well, y'all, y'all, I mean, you guys are,
Starting point is 00:53:24 y'all paining away for a lot of people who like watching your own. That's what the fuck I want to do, so you guys are in the same light, you know? You're doing it. You're changing the game. You got your own studio and shit? You don't think so? Yeah, we had this.
Starting point is 00:53:38 to get the studio, man. We had to. It was only the next logical step. That's good. What the wrong with you? What the fuck are you? He's not laughing with me now. He's laughing at him. You're laughing at your ass. Jay don't like makeup. The fuck you me.
Starting point is 00:54:05 He said I can't do it. You said I can't do your makeup no more. I don't know how that story was supposed to end and that's been one of my best friends for the last 30 years. You know what? When I was saying it, I'm like, nigga you don't have a strong ending for that.
Starting point is 00:54:23 He's still with me to this day that's my makeup bear. You know what I'm saying? I stayed with the motherfucker right. I didn't know what I was that. I said I gave it to y'all. You're stupid, man. Still to this day, that's my makeup.
Starting point is 00:54:37 He's just on the payroll. Who's shit? We just, I just know as a young nigga, bro, what comedy did for us. Like, they introduced comedy to me. I didn't know. Who drunk up all the Kool-Aid? That was the shit. I ain't know nothing about death jail.
Starting point is 00:54:48 Until I went digging as a student. Daddy. Daddy drunk out of Kool-Aid. I make Kool-Aid for my family. Uh-huh. That changed the... Hey! Don't drunk up all the motherfucking Kool-Lade!
Starting point is 00:55:01 But the way you made it look so effinously. I like to activate a bit, too. I like to spraying the jacket. Yeah. I like the feedback. I watched that. I watched it twice. I can't.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Like, if I do a show, I don't watch it. I can't watch myself. What? Can you watch yourself? Yeah, yeah. You? Sometimes. I don't, I can't.
Starting point is 00:55:19 I can't. I can't watch it. I'm just so critical of like, oh man, I should have did this. I should have said that. Right. So. You like, fuck it. You watch all of them.
Starting point is 00:55:29 You tell me. Hey, I don't see me. Everything I didn't need. I want to see what the fuck these folks portray me at. All right. I knew what I'm supposed to do. That's right. Oh, like you said, I damn critiquing until the next time I get in that camera, I ain't going to do that. I'm going to do that. You know what I got to?
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yeah. Got too. Absolutely. Now, we just ain't just watching it just because you just fascinated with yourself. You know what I like a lady on that? Let's watch some meat. Oh, no, see, I ain't doing that. Hell no. Hell no. I ain't turning on me. You got out of that motherfucker trying to ask it in a minute. Oh, look at me. That's crazy. I'm on TV. You want to watch. I try to avoid me as much as possible.
Starting point is 00:56:11 Sometimes they come to the crib, they want to watch you. Who's funny to you like? I mean. What you mean? Your favorite comics. Oh. Shit, it's too many of the name. You got a name, son.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Burning me top, number one. Number one, all the time. But I like a lot of them for different reasons. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? You're one of my favorite. Mike Epps. Mike Epps.
Starting point is 00:56:37 He's funny, yeah. He's live, like, in person. Yeah. He's like one of the best live in person. Like in person. Yeah, Mike Gibson's funny. I think Samoa is, like, technically one of the best comedians. What about LaValle?
Starting point is 00:56:50 Absolutely. He's a, he's a, he's a threat. He's a killer. You know who I think is underrated, though? Motherfucking T.K. Kirkland. Tee to the motherfucker K. Teeth to the motherfucker K. That's my boy.
Starting point is 00:57:04 His name supposed to come up in them type of conversation. conversation. I like Tony Robber, too. Yeah, Tony Robbins. That's a beast, yeah. Tony Robbins, you would be like, damn, boy. And Tommy Davidson. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:57:15 You know who five? Dominique. Dominique, yeah. Ooh. Yeah. And hugging them, all of them, right. I love Dominique, boy. She is, she a sleeper.
Starting point is 00:57:26 Yeah. Deion Nicole, Corey Hogan, Murchison. Yeah, Deion Cole. I think Lerrell is one of the funniest, too. O'Neill, yeah. Lennel, yeah. She got Luleneil and Larel. She keeps on, she keeps on residence.
Starting point is 00:57:40 Now, Larel, he goes stupid. Right. Yeah. Yeah, the thing about this, I mean, this is going to be around, especially with shit doing bad like it is. Yeah. Comedy's going to be big, man.
Starting point is 00:57:51 People need to laugh. People are going to laugh. It's good that people are depressed. Do you come laugh. They were on the internet doing shit and people were watching, right. Yeah. You know, you know, the kings, like he said, and D.L and Steve, but like you said,
Starting point is 00:58:06 We like different people for different reasons. Right. And that's one of my favorite elements of the comedy that, like, you used to love to see like how shit, like how, the originality. Like, you love to hear motherfuckers come from somewhere else. Like, Hamburger was funny, because he talked like a motherfucker from the deep south.
Starting point is 00:58:26 You know, he had his niche and shit like that. It's like, you get what I'm saying? Just for him to be able to sell that shit and make, like, and it worked. And it worked. To another nigga, he, he, Especially when you're a student, you like, I in the hell he get that shit to work. And it's like, you just got to find it.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And that ain't choice. Martin Lawrence and Chris Rock. Yeah, I just rock, dropped them specials. Oh, man. Yeah. I did the warm-ups on that show. Chris used to drop them goddamn platinum hits every couple years, like, big and blacker and bring the pain and all that shit, man. That's what he was in his bag, right?
Starting point is 00:59:02 Like, man. Yeah. And when the Martin show came on the air, I don't know if you got your HBO special television, they will have a pilot, you know, a pilot. So it was three pilots, and I did the warm-marts for three of them. Robert Townland had a pilot by the radio show, and then there was another pilot about a show where this white guy comes to a black radio station. That show actually got on it, and then I did the Martin pilot.
Starting point is 00:59:25 I knew the minute I did that pilot that Martin was going to get picked up. You knew it was going to go? There was no doubt that his show was going to get picked up. And that show was so fucking funny, man. Absolutely. It was one of the best. One of the best sitcom, period. Ever.
Starting point is 00:59:41 Doing the warm-out, me being behind the scene. Martin never did more than three takes. You know, like, if you've been on the set, sometimes a motherfucker could do 40 and 50 takes, and you're going to, man, shit, I win. It's funny. The part of the joke. Yeah, the joke is gone.
Starting point is 00:59:55 Martin would do only three tops. And they say, let's do it again. Martin said, we ain't doing it no more. Moving on. And you already got it. was already funny. So sometimes you can wear a joke out by doing the shit over. I mean, I've been on sets where they make you do
Starting point is 01:00:10 over and over and over again. That was a movie, nigga. Yeah. It forced them to take what you want them to take, though. We got a live audience. They're watching them. Keep doing this shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:23 No, that's fire. That was a good show to do. Man, man, the prime like that thing? Yeah, Martin awesome, man. We're talking about with comedy and with comedy. We're coming in with comedy. We, comedy is a lot now because we love the art. Like, if we didn't love the art, it is just, it'll be floating.
Starting point is 01:00:39 I think it's, I mean, you guys, y'all selling out shit, it's an audience for it. I mean, it's an audience. The audience is there. You just got to find your niche, you know, and the people who talk and shit about, well, they didn't pay the dues. Well, you know, this is what I was about to ask you. They ain't made doze. How did you find the money in comedy? The money found me.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Hmm. The money found me. because I would go to New York and first of all, New York comments would come down in Atlanta and they were like, where am I Hispanic San? My fucking is on Hispanic Right, right?
Starting point is 01:01:12 Right, none. They ain't get here to 96. Oh, my man, that's snowmountain. Yeah, so you're on the subway. Now, this is Atlanta. We ain't got no subway. I would go up to New York to work, and I was amazed
Starting point is 01:01:29 that you could work in New York. You go to New York and Texas and California. You could be up there for a month doing a little short. Boston, especially. Boston was a serious comedy career because it was all college kids. So you could open one place, get in the car, go to another place, be in the middle, and then go in another place, and close. And you'll come home at $6,700.
Starting point is 01:01:54 I didn't know that money exists until I got out there. I drove across the country from Atlanta to Texas. I worked out there a month. There was so many clubs. What I found out was that these clubs existed, but it was all white, all white comics. So by the time black comics, and we were funny, we would kick ass.
Starting point is 01:02:13 We were kicking these white boys' ass. It was no doubt in our mind that we were the funniest mother. I worked the show one time. Could you close the show? I'm like, fuck no. I ain't closing shit. You're the headliner. Right.
Starting point is 01:02:27 So once I found out that there were other places to work, Like I said, the money found me. Right. Come on. That's real. I like that, right? That's how it worked, well. Well, come on, man.
Starting point is 01:02:39 You got to tell us about the club now. You got to tell us about the J-spot. The J-spot. How they... How they crack. I'm done. Did you get paid? Hell, yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:48 Did you get paid? Hell no. I got paid. I didn't know. You paid? You did. Yeah. So I understand.
Starting point is 01:02:59 And you gave me about 11. bonds of high songs he paid you hit high so why you left why you wouldn't playing the comics I paid the comics now I was doing I was doing comedy I was doing comedy nights all over LA I was going open to a night tonight then I would have to go do the road, you know, to make some decent money. And then by the time I come back, the club owner took the night. Oh, we're going to do it ourselves. We're going to book it
Starting point is 01:03:37 ourselves. And we don't need you no more. We're going to do our own night. So that would happen. I'm like, fucking, I'm just open my own comedy club. So I opened the club called the J-Spot. And when I opened it, I did it all backwards. I learned a lot of shit now, from what I did now. I would never open another
Starting point is 01:03:55 from the club. Never. But I applaud anybody. What I really hate about LA. What I really hate in my late since my club club, like at this particular time, there is not a black on comedy club in Los Angeles. And when you go to some of these comedy clubs, it's nothing but niggas in the audience.
Starting point is 01:04:11 But there's not a black comedy club. And what the white clubs were doing, they have a Negro night. They have Negro night, colored night, black comics only. And that's sustained what black comics could get on stage. But there should be a black on comedy club.
Starting point is 01:04:27 I ain't going to open the motherfucker up. but somebody needs to open one. What was the, what, what turns you off from? You said you never do it again. I never made any money. I paid, I paid the help, you know, I paid my help. I paid comics. Not only that, the problem for me is the big name comics would not come.
Starting point is 01:04:50 They wouldn't come. They wouldn't come. And you'll find that when you do shit. People you know, they won't support you. Why was that? That's just the way we are, man. The hardest thing for a black man to do is support another black man. I'm just fucking what he is.
Starting point is 01:05:05 If he's selling sandwiches, you know, Asians sell more chicken than Negroes. They sell more chicken and fish than we do because that's where we go. So when you open a black comedy club, they wouldn't come. I'm not going to name them, but I can name the people who did come. Steve never came to my club. He never set foot in my club. Tom Joyner, never set foot in my club.
Starting point is 01:05:28 club. Cat Williams came. He ain't going to stay. But, I mean, at that particular point, you wanted them to just show up. Yeah. Yeah. Just a joke. He came.
Starting point is 01:05:42 You know. But a lot of comics did come, but a lot of did he come. And that's the death of black comedy. For me. Oh, damn. Is the names I couldn't get. And that's fucked up because it's like, that wasn't no, like, real bad area. No, no.
Starting point is 01:06:02 It was not the airport. Shit, they were shooting up at the other store. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a joke about it. A couple times.
Starting point is 01:06:12 Yeah. And you always let me go up. I don't know why motherfucker won't go. And you was a place, too, where motherfuckers would come out and they would tape some shit. You could run your shit up there. You know what I'm saying? You can go hit a spot And yours was one of the spots
Starting point is 01:06:30 The people always put you on I got you spot of the J-spire I got you a spot at this third day Yeah Hit that shit man Yeah I think if I I think one of the problems for me
Starting point is 01:06:40 Was I couldn't be at the club To sustain the club I had to work the road Right Pay the bills and shit like that And I will tell anybody If you go on a business You got to be in that motherfucker
Starting point is 01:06:50 You got to be there You're selling fish You got to be at the fish shop every damn day. You can't let your mama, your cousin, no uncle, you know, Leroy, nobody. You got to be there because you learn more shit by you there.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Because people are going to steal. They will steal from your ass. They will steal. They will steal more than anything. It ain't the customers. It's the hell. Right. You buy a chicken, you're like, shit. Oh, look at my chicken receipts. I ain't so that much chicken. It's walking at the fucking door. And you will only find that if you're there every damn day.
Starting point is 01:07:23 Yeah. You're going to see it. You don't have a business. You have a hobby. Damn. You're going to have a gay story, wouldn't it? God, that's a gay makeup. That's a gay makeup. That's a guy.
Starting point is 01:07:39 Since I can't do your makeup. I only knew because I was there every day. The niggins start getting thick. Take it back. You're happy. What's the next? They stole off of 50s. I'm made for Mr. Pryman.
Starting point is 01:07:57 The call was back for season 7 and 8. Fuck your shit. Yeah. Shout out to Tyler Perry, man. Shout out to all of prayer. I got sick. I missed season four. I was sick.
Starting point is 01:08:08 I was in the hospital. And so I really thought they were going to replace me. I'm just like, you know, because TV will replace your ass in a minute. They'd act like nothing happened. Somebody so close to you. We got G. Anthony Brown. Played by George Wallace.
Starting point is 01:08:22 I'm like, just sorry. So I get sick, I mean, it's the whole season four, and they called me up and said, don't worry about it. When season five come back, you'll be, they didn't have to do that. And I was surprised that they did it that way. You know, he called me up and said, don't worry about to get well, come back. So that was a blessing for me. That's solid, man.
Starting point is 01:08:44 He's solid over there, man. Yeah. Go on, Larry. You want the people to know, OG, what you got coming up, man? I know you got some sauces and... My hot songs, you know, my hot songs. I said, taste of some of this shit, too, Paul. This shit, yeah, drug it in the mofone and nuts.
Starting point is 01:08:59 Y'all didn't try to nuts, man. We've been sitting here to fire. I'm allergic to nuts. I do you know what going to happen? I know how you motherfuckers out. As soon as I leave, y'all will eat them. No, I know how motherfuckers are. You got to eat some.
Starting point is 01:09:13 You got to eat some. I got to eat my own neck. Hey, man. Hey, man. Get your neck, man. Eat your nuts, man. Okay. Now only that.
Starting point is 01:09:22 Oh, they're hot a peanut. As soon as you eat them. Yeah. Okay, okay. Open those, open those. Well, you could at least open the nuts, right? I am, I'm gonna read, yeah. Open the nuts.
Starting point is 01:09:32 Open the hot nuts. Open the nuts. Open the sweet nuts, man. Let me see him. Pause, man. Let me see. Oh, go ahead. You got a real can.
Starting point is 01:09:39 These are just salty nuts. Let me be hunting nuts. A little salt and nuts. Yeah, there's a lot of sugar in them. I watch baseball and howdy. All right, no, just all I need to say, Jay, I like your nuts. I'm not saying that.
Starting point is 01:09:56 You're going to eat them and not say that? You swept me up. You swept this up, Jay. Are they good? You're talking about the nuts. I purchased these nuts, and they are delicious. Have you tried them, sir? What one you got?
Starting point is 01:10:16 Are you referring to these legumes? No, these motherfuckers, I, I, I, I thought peanut. That's the George Washington Carvers, please? Pass me the Carvers. Well, which one are those? No, these seasons. These nuts season. What a know?
Starting point is 01:10:37 They hot, they hot, now. They're hot, man. You didn't try to nuts, sir. Everybody got, everybody got nuts in their mouth. Is your hot one? This is your hot one. You're your mouth well? You alert?
Starting point is 01:10:48 No, I ain't it. I'm trying to. Oh. You like salt a nut? You like something? Hey, look, man. If I got to take a peek out of the sleeve. He's like, I'm going up there.
Starting point is 01:10:57 Give me them some of them. Well, you saw that nigga reach for the nuts. He wanted you to drop him in his hand. Y'all back out. Yeah, you're looking. If I'm going to try some, I don't know. If I'm going to try some, I don't know. All these is Jay's nuts.
Starting point is 01:11:21 I think I took a picture and said, how are you going there and ask for your own nuts? Make mine slightly bigger than the other. Let me see, though. I want them to be bigger and saltier than average nuts. I have a, I didn't bring them, but I have brown nuts.
Starting point is 01:11:37 Those are chocolate-cover nuts. They ain't going too much. What's next? You're going to fill the nuts with yoga? Oh, man, thank you, man. There ain't no nuts in there, but. Yeah. I saw joining them with their shit, man.
Starting point is 01:11:51 I'm like, They didn't bring me nothing. We got you a jacket. Oh, yeah. Man, thank you, man. No, thank you, man. Yeah, I didn't tell a cat that I wanted to do the show for the longest, man. You had you finally got to make it.
Starting point is 01:12:02 Yeah, I'm glad y'all hit me on, man. Appreciate it. Thank you, y'all, man. You're a icon, man. Yeah, for real, man. Thank you. For an eye time, man. Y'all, y'all. No, no, no, you just want them, none.
Starting point is 01:12:14 Hey, man. A man, you're holding the candy and shit. A nigger looking like squirrel. Now, y'all talk to shit by my nuts and now, now you're gonna put the fucking can. Please get off my nuts. Hey, well, we're gonna pick up some Jasmine Brown nuts. Go to jasminebrown.com. Oh, hey.
Starting point is 01:12:41 You see my art. I got an art book coming out. Yes, sir. I got a comic book coming out called The Adventures of Bitter Man. Yes, up. And I got an album coming up. an album commitment you still singing man yes uh you need me yeah let's do something what you want me to say my album is songs that wrote while i was drunk or high so we
Starting point is 01:12:59 let's go put something on me okay I'm with you're saying man yeah yeah yeah come in and dive and do the city let me get your house with you night and day I don't know the word I'll be easy I'll be go on emotion in the city. Make sure y'all hit Jay and the Brown website and get you some of his products.
Starting point is 01:13:26 O.G., we really appreciate you stopping through him. Notice your first time, but don't let it be the laid. You always welcome. We're out of you. We fought with you. Get to somebody in nice.
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